Sept. 12, 2024

16 Foot Sasquatch of the Willamette Valley with Kyle McDonald

Join us as we venture into the enigmatic world of Bigfoot with Kyle McDonald from Southern Oregon. Kyle recounts his 20-year journey of extraordinary encounters, sharing astonishing tales of sightings, interactions, and even healing powers linked to...

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Season 1

Join us as we venture into the enigmatic world of Bigfoot with Kyle McDonald from Southern Oregon. Kyle recounts his 20-year journey of extraordinary encounters, sharing astonishing tales of sightings, interactions, and even healing powers linked to this elusive creature. His stories extend into eerie experiences in Oakridge, with unusual bird mimicry, odd sounds, and paranormal phenomena like cloaking. Kyle presents compelling evidence through photographs and recordings, detailing his nocturnal adventures and spiritual connection with Bigfoot. This episode is a fascinating dive into the unknown, exploring the inexplicable and urging an open mind.

BONUS: Kyle shares his recent experiences on Neer City Road in Rainier, Oregon.

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slash the Big for Society and now let's get on

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with the show. All right, Big for Society. You've got

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the privilege of talking to Kyle McDonald today. He's an

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individual that I met at the booth at Sasquatch Summerfest

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this last summer twenty twenty four. He's an individual from Dexter,

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Oregon as well, but we have been both waiting to

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chat on the podcast ever since I had the privilege

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of meeting him. So, Kyle, it's great to have you

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on the show today.

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How's it going, man, Oh, it's going great. I'm glad

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to be here, really glad to have it that you're

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having me on there on here to talk.

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About this absolutely. I mean, dude, you've had some some

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wild things happen over the years, So I'm going to

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go ahead and I'm going to let you have at it.

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We might be doing conversations along the way, but for

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the most part, the floor is yours, my friend.

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Well, you know, it's this whole thing started like twenty

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years ago. I we I live out here in Dexter.

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It's all forest around here, and my buddies would go

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out and get fired what every year, and so like

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basically we were out there one day and it felt

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really strange out there, and we were just like, wow,

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it's really quiet and really weird. And uh, I never

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even thought about like Bigfoot, honestly, Like it was never

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a thing in my brain that was a joke that

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would be lived on the top of a mountain somewhere anyways.

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So then like we just like went back to what

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we were doing, cutting wood, and then I saw like

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this movement up on this hill and I looked up

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and it was like this head and shoulders around the stump,

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and it was like trying to like I don't know

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if it was trying to rip the stump out, but

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it was like going back and forth really fast, and

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it was like, I don't know, like people talk about

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that swaying thing what they do and they're agitated or whatnot,

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and it was doing that but super fast, and I

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was like, what is that? And my friend saw another

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one that I didn't see, but he said he saw it,

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but he was looking at a different one. Later he

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explained to me, So we saw two different ones at

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the same time, and it was like right then, I

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was like, man, that sent me into like that's Bigfoot.

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So now I know that Bigfoot's real and it sent

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me into this like I was obsessed. Like I was like,

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like I had to know more. So we started going

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out every day, and you know, when I first started

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this whole thing, and like I didn't know what I

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was looking for or anything, Like I just knew I

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was trying to find a big, giant, black thing walking

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through the forest. And you know, with that kind of mindset,

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you're never gonna find anything. Like so I would take

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I got cameras, video cameras, and I would like, you know,

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just start going out taking pictures of just everywhere I

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could maybe think of that there was one like anywhere

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and everywhere. And I got a lot of good pictures,

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but I didn't I never saw like anything. When I

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was getting the pictures, I'd have to go back and

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look through and you know, like see them, see them

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in the pictures or whatever. And and as I went,

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as I got, you know, more and more into it,

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like I just I realized the better that the more

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I learned about them, the harder the pictures to get

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of them. Where It's like the more I learned, the

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less I could get on you know, documented or whatever.

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one weird thing. There's a lot of weird things. All

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of it's weird. But then I was like, we're going

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way out in the woods and stuff, and I was like,

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you know, just learning, Like why would you just sit

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for long times? We'd just be quiet and listen and like,

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I don't know, it wasn't It was really mild at first.

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I live in you know, this little area that why

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couldn't they be like right here and right down the street.

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From my house is like these uh there's a creek

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and these tunnels that they will the water can run through.

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They're like, I don't know, they're probably maybe like twenty

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feet tall. They're big enough to drive a car through.

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There's five of them, and they go through a little ways.

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So right there is on the top of those are

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the railroad tracks and so it's like it's really forested

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right there, a great area, and it always has felt

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like energy was there and everything. But so what I

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started doing was I started going up there and uh,

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you know, just just trying to leaving food from the

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food box that they had here. They'd give away like

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fruits and vegetables, and I'd take as much as I could,

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and I'd hike up there and i'd leave the food

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in the spot. And for a while, nothing happened, and

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it would just like rod away. And then then it

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started gott getting taken and I just didn't know. And

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I mean, this is quite a while ago, so it's

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hard to remember exactly how all the like details about

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things like that. It's kind of a little bit of

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a blur. The beginning of it was. But then, uh,

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I left my camera there one day to record up

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this hill right by where I left the food, and

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and on the on this tape you see the because

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I didn't believe it then, but now I know the bigfoot.

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They can they can disappear. They can literally just disappear,

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but you can still see where they're at by the

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movement of the bushes. And so you see from as

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soon as I leave the camera there you see one

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like this movement coming down through the bushes all the

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way down to this bottom of the hill. I don't know,

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maybe like fifty meter a little bit more from my camera,

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and then there's this like white flashing thing. It looks

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like something's churning in a circle. I don't know what

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it was. I still have never figured out what it was,

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but like it flashes and it goes fast, then it'll

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go slow, and then you'll see and it's like they

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did a shift switch where they like way came down.

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That thing was like spinning, blinking, and then you see

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it like another I don't know if it was another

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one of the same one, go back up and you

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see the bushes lifting as it goes through. And then

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it happened like two or three times. But then you

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start seeing like this little face and the glowing eyes,

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because their eyes glowing in the daytime and as well

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as nighttime without any light. And then I was like

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blown away about that. So then I was just like

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started going around down there. From my house. It was

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like maybe like a six minute walk from my house,

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but Dexter is a big, giant square, It's like probably

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two and a half miles around, And so I started

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walking around all over the town just kind of like,

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you know, checking things out because I've lived there forever,

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but now that this bigfoot thing was in my mind,

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it was like a whole different world to me. And

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I started seeing all these little signs, like footprints, and

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like there's like swirl marks where they walked through the grass.

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I don't know what they other, they like twirl the

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grass or whatever. I don't know what it was, but

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it was strange. And then the stick structures, you know,

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like the branches broke into exites in different shapes, and

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I started seeing all that, and I learned that they

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would come. I learned their little their route, you know,

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they would come from the mountain, go down across the

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highway to the lake, go down in that area, and

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then come back up through this park called Elijah Bristow

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and go back up through and back to the mountain.

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And I caught onto that and I was just like

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I was thought I was and I was obsessed with it,

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and I was like every day, every night walking around

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just like out in the woods, just trying to to

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gure this thing out, like because I wanted to know more.

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And uh, I needed somebody to talk to because I

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thought I was going nuts because like I was finding

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out all this stuff about how these things lived right

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like right around us, like basically with us, but yet

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no one noticed anything, no one ever said anything. And

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I was just like, so I I got a hold

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of h I you know, looked online for someone to

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talk to, and I couldn't really you know, everyone's just

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kind of like Bigfoot Society or the whatever the I

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can't remember the name of it, like, uh, the Bigfoot

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guys research guys. And I was just like, you know,

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all that's cool and everything, but I just I don't know,

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I didn't really want to be like that mainstream about it.

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So I went I found Lamott Valley Bigfoot Society, which

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is you know, around this area, and I just put

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a couple of pictures that I'd take. I'd taken of

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some of the footprints and like tree structures and stuff,

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and Mike Botowitz got a hold of me and he's like, man,

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you have some really good stuff. Can I come to

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your spot? I said, heck, yeah, man, let's go. So

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he came out and he had never had any bigfoot experiences,

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but uh, like uh, he came out and we went

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up to the spot and this I got to say

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that I skipped out on like a little bit of time,

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like a couple of years since I had started doing it. It

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went by because really it didn't get much. I just

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would go out take pictures and just like kind of

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leave canvas and here and there, and I've got some

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good great pictures and audio and stuff. But like just

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the interactions with them, it was like a we grew

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like this hidden like unfiend bond, I guess you would

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call it, where I didn't really see them much, but

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like they would never show themselves purposely to me, but

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I could. I learned how to see them by just

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like sitting and watching and like watching the change of

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things and the way they would move. It would be

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like so slowly and it's almost like you're you have

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to like rub your eyes and say it, man, am

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I really seeing this because it's like moving so slow,

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but it's getting bigger and bigger, this black spot. So

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that right there is how I would like, you know,

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I figured out how to see them. And they also

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make a noise that you know, it sounds like a rainstick.

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You know those stick full of beads that you turn

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upside down and it like trickles the beads down in it.

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It sounded a lot like that, Like they said, make

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it sound. That's just like that. It's crazy. And that's

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how I would know that when they're around, is that

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sound will just start up out of nowhere and I'm like, oh,

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there they are sores. Back to the with Mike. I

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took him up and I had already had a few

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like experiences where they would like you know, throw things

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and like do knocks and break the branches around me

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and stuff, and so I was like, you know, basically

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I was used to that kind of thing, and so

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I took him out and I was I said, I

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can't promise you anything, because whenever you tell somebody that

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you're gonna take him squatching, you just it it turns

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out like when you tell him that nothing happens, and

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it makes you look like you're crazy. So I said,

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I can't promise you anything, but I mean I'm gonna

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take you and show you where I go and what

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you know, I'll tell you what happens to me and

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well to see what happens. So anyways, we went out

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and uh, in his book, you can he talks about

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that all this stuff too, but he like, Uh, we

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went out and we were just like walking and then

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we heard this big pre branch break and uh, I

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was like, see there they are. They're here. That's awesome,

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and uh he was so excited, like he was a

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little kid in the candy store, and uh and I

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was just loving it because I love, you know, sharing

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that with people. I love seeing the like them where

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I was, you know, with that excitement and like, uh,

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just the pure like amusement on their face when they

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were actually realized that, you know, it's not just a

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thing that we're trying to figure out. It's here and

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it's now. It's a whole different game. And uh so

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we went out, we sat down and uh, I tried.

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I was like, let's go in. Let's go in there

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a little bit so we can get some get it

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to get closer. And he was like, I don't know, man,

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he was he was pretty like shaking up about it.

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But he finally finally got him in there and we

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sat down, we were talking, and then this rock came

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right over us and landed right in front of us,

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and I was like, there you go. And he was

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like that right there changed his life. He was like

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he went from there and he just went crazy. And

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we went out a couple more times and talked a bunch,

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and then he went kind of on his own thing

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and just became like his own world with it, and

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I didn't just kept doing what I was doing. But

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my big problem is is, uh, I have a It

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scares me. You know, these guys they're scary to me.

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I mean, the male that I took a picture of

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that is around is the little male of the family

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group that is around my area that I've kind of

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been interacting with per se for these years, is like

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he's like sixteen feet tall. I mean he's not They're

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not little. And I've heard other people talk about on

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the podcast that and it's like these things are freaking

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It's crazy. When you see one move, it like your

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stomach turns because it's like when they run. I mean

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it just like it's like a smear, that's how fast

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they are. My job is I drive around two different

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buildings and rex sites to you know, clean them and

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make sure that they're kept up. And I mean that

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takes me out into all these differences, like all over Oregons,

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these different out in the middle of nowhere places. So

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it's it's really cool to do that. But uh, that

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was like the perfect job for It's the perfect job

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for me because I can drive around and squatch at

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the same time I'm working. And uh yeah, So I

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mean I've got lots of different things that have happened

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around this area. I started walking around Dexter at night,

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and uh, of course I'd have my I had a

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friend with me that was from the beginning, and he

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went with me and he did everything with because I,

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like I said, the same scare me so bad sometimes

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because it's like, you know, you just get these feelings

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and they can like there's so much more to them

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than people would probably think if they haven't experienced it.

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It makes things really weird. And so my buddy would

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go with me all the time, and I would go

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wherever I would go in Dexter, I would hear this

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dog barking, but it was the same dog and like

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the same distance for me no matter where I would go.

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And so and it happened that followed me for a

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long time. And then I lived in a little trailer

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behind my grandma's house on two acres, and it was,

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you know, a big square place, and my trailer was

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right in the smack middle of the field. And so

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they would I after I would leave food there for

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a while, and I started, you know, they started eating it,

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but they would take them three days to touch it.

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And I would leave peanut butter there and I would

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take like when I first started that, I would leave

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the jar. I would show, I take a stick, dip

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it in the peanut butter, and eat some off the

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steak and say that you know mean good this is

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you know this is good. It's not bad for you.

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And I'd set the stick down next to the peanut

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butter jar, and I'd put the lid back on and

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I'd leave. And so I found the jar. I went

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back three days later, and I would find the jar open,

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or sometimes I wouldn't find the jar until later down

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the road, Like it would be like, you know, down

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they would drop it into the creek and it would

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float down and stuff. But it had stick marks in it,

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and it was empty, and the stick was placed right

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back against the rock where I left it. So it

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was like, hey, we're ready for more. But so once

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I started feeding them and I started like they started

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eating it, it was like then they would come to

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my house and uh, you know, they're they're not there's

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a lot of you know, there's quite a bit of

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people right in that little area. I mean, it's not

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like a city, but it's like, you know, there's people

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doing things all day in that little area.

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Big for a society who would be right back after

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these messages.

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So they would wait till evening, and then I had

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like a little like one of the corner of my

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property was like a little forested area, and that's where

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they would come through because it went straight from the

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creek through my neighbor's yard into this little wooded area

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and then into my yard. And so they would start

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coming to my place at night and I could hear them,

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like I'd be sitting there in my trailer and I

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could hear them stomp by. Sometimes they would like smack

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something off the side of my trailer really loud and

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like give me a little heart attack. And my dogs

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we had three dogs, and my dogs would go out there.

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They'd come running out barking sometimes, and then they would

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sit there, all three of them in a little row,

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and they would stare at that corner all night long,

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not making a sound. It worried me a little bit

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because it's like, what's wrong with them? Like they were hypnotized.

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They would stare all night long into that corner. And

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I mean, I definitely know now that Bigfoot they can

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manipulate things and they can get anything to do what

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they want pretty much. I mean, it's it's it's I'm

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still trying to figure that one out. Like they can

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use animals and manipulate them and all that kind of stuff.

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But it just gets just got crazier from there. Like

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I mean, uh so, what I would do is I

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would record, you know, the best as I could. I

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didn't have night vision then, but I would. They would

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surround my property. There was eight of them. They would

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surround my property and I and just like watch and

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like something, you know, come through. And it depends on like,

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you know, how active I was, you know, doing things

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and uh and so uh jeez. I like in the morning,

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right before it got light, I would go out and

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I would start recording the around the edge of my property,

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and as it got light, you could see them shake

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bushes to each other and then they would just be gone,

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like one. It would start at one corner of the

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property and then one bush would shake and then it

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would do like a little sequence all the way to

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the other side of the property, all of them signaling

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each other that maybe it was time to go. And

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you could see the little eystein. There was little ones

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too then and then there was a big white one.

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And so there's one time when me and my buddy

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went up to like I don't know, it's like a

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ten minute walk from my house, right up from the

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spot where I feed him on the tracks, and he

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couldn't see very well, but he said that if I

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saw anything with my camera that he would walk to

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it as I recorded, and I'd keep my camera on it.

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And so we did this walk through this little old

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logging road thing that they did. We walked down it

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and then we turn around at the end of it,

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and we walked right back through. And so we walked

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back through and I just got I was feeling something

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so hard that day. When we walked back through and

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we got to the top of it, the backs were

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we started at the road and I turned around and

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I see movement on my camera, but I couldn't like

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tell what I was looking at. So I was like

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telling him, and he's like, all right, well, keep your

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camera on, I'll walk back down there. And he walked

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down the road halfway and stopped and he's like this good.

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I'm like, yeah, sure that works. But I could see

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movement happening all over the place and like so I

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was just like he he came back and I was

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just I was like whatever. So we went back and

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I watched the video and it flew my mind because

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I had a whole family on that video that I

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did not see at that moment when I was filming it.

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But I saw something I just couldn't figure out what.

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But as he watched the video, I mean, it's called

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video eight to my eighth video that I did, and

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it was epic because this male bigfoot that I was

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seeing the movement of was walking ahead of his family

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that he had behind him, and his was coned, and

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so whenever he would come up, the cone of his

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head would push the bushes up just enough where he

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could see his nostrils and his eye, and his nostrils

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and his eye were big as my friend's upper body.

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And this thing was massively huge. And so I was like,

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holy crap. And then in that video, I have a

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white one with a baby looking around a tree. I

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have another one that's like up in this tree, and

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he shakes the whole tree like just real quick. An

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oak tree, you know, they're hard to shake if and

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this whole oak tree just went one shake, one jostle

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of it, and it was like wow. And so I

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posted that video on Facebook a long time ago just

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and uh, that's you know. I showed Mike that video

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and then he I told his friend Darren Richardson, who's

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friends with Autumn Williams, which she wrote the book Enoch

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the Bigfoot Story, And so she had Darren get a

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hold of me to get my number. She wanted to

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come check out my place too, but she never got

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a hold of me. Something happened. I'm not sure what happened,

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but so yeah, I mean, that video is epic. I

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still have that. I've been like holding that video like

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so dear and like because that video right there, and

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it's on a high eight too, and that video is

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like wow. And I've got a few more videos that

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have like so much good stuff, like oh man, I've

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got and I didn't like a lot of it. I

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didn't even realize I caught, which is funny.

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I have a lot of questions about this, this one

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part especially, did you say, Aaron Richardson.

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Darren Darren okay, Darren.

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Yeah, so you're saying, first off, is your footage anywhere

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to watch on the internet? You said Facebook.

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I posted it a long time ago, and I don't.

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I wouldn't know how to find it there now because

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it's like I have a different account and everything. I

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lost that account. Man. Yeah, but I have the video.

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I just don't have a way to play it because

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of my high eight camera is broke.

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This isn't on YouTube or anything. This is just you

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have the high eight camera and you have high eight

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tape or yeah wow, okay.

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But yeah, I've got twenty seven video. Oh wow. Yeah,

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and all those videos are just like blitch, not all

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of them, some of them are like all the one

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just like I'd set my camera up and just film

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into one area for the whole two hours it could film.

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But a lot of them are just places like I'd

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film for a little bit on one place and I'd stop

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and then if I see seeing something, I would just

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start recording. So I've got tons of places times of

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like oh my gosh, yeah, audio recordings everything.

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Have you ever considered making a YouTube channel?

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I yeah, I did, but then I mean it's I

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actually have Actually I want to make a YouTube channel.

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I just wanted to. I just wanted to make it

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something you know, worth you know, watching, like interesting enough

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to where people watch it, because so many people have

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big foot YouTube you know. And it's like, I know, personally,

456
00:22:50.240 --> 00:22:52.559
like so many big foot YouTube channels. I don't even

457
00:22:52.559 --> 00:22:55.000
bother watching them because it's like I live that. Why

458
00:22:55.000 --> 00:22:56.680
I am not going to watch someone else, you know

459
00:22:56.680 --> 00:22:57.000
what I mean.

460
00:22:57.799 --> 00:23:03.000
That's really yeah, that's interesting. Yeah hmmm, I think that.

461
00:23:03.440 --> 00:23:05.160
And I know it's a lot of work, especially if

462
00:23:05.200 --> 00:23:07.680
you're on high eight. I've never tried to transfer that

463
00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:12.119
before know what that entails. But I think a lot

464
00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:15.519
of people might find that interesting, especially you're saying you

465
00:23:15.599 --> 00:23:18.359
have hours and hours and hours of footage on this

466
00:23:18.440 --> 00:23:21.880
high Yeah, that has never been really seen except for

467
00:23:21.960 --> 00:23:24.519
a little bit on Facebook. Way way back. You said

468
00:23:24.559 --> 00:23:26.599
Mike saw it, and Mike said it was interesting.

469
00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:30.160
Yeah, and Autumn Williams saw it too, and that's what Moe.

470
00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:33.559
I want to like, come to my spot. Yeah, because

471
00:23:33.559 --> 00:23:36.240
it's a it's a super epic video. Like I did

472
00:23:36.279 --> 00:23:39.359
not even realize. And did I show you that picture

473
00:23:39.799 --> 00:23:42.720
when I met with you at bnokas that bigfoot kind

474
00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:43.480
of walking away from me.

475
00:23:44.519 --> 00:23:47.279
Yeah, that was really It was really quick and I

476
00:23:47.400 --> 00:23:50.119
was really taken aback by. I was like, whoa, what

477
00:23:50.119 --> 00:23:53.559
what is this about? But it was a very hot day,

478
00:23:53.640 --> 00:23:57.000
so I was like what is this?

479
00:23:57.240 --> 00:24:00.480
Yeah, yeah, that's that Mail I was talking about. He

480
00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:03.519
is sixteen feet. I mean the guys. I've got him

481
00:24:03.559 --> 00:24:06.359
on a few different occasions and he was coming. He

482
00:24:06.359 --> 00:24:09.079
would come in my backyard too. I got his face.

483
00:24:09.160 --> 00:24:10.640
I got a shot of his face that's really good.

484
00:24:10.640 --> 00:24:12.640
It looks like he looks like almost like a lion

485
00:24:12.759 --> 00:24:16.240
Rosschween moorson and a lion. Yeah.

486
00:24:16.519 --> 00:24:19.440
What did you used to take that that photo?

487
00:24:21.000 --> 00:24:24.839
I had a nikon Like it looks like a cannon,

488
00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:26.960
but it's a Nikon. I had a Nikon camera that

489
00:24:27.039 --> 00:24:30.319
took really good pictures for a long time, and it

490
00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:37.799
something happened. You steered away from like camera, Yeah, yeah,

491
00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:39.759
I kind of I took it with a cannon, but

492
00:24:39.799 --> 00:24:42.279
I've kind of steered away a little bit from cameras

493
00:24:42.319 --> 00:24:45.960
as much like I still try to take pictures, but

494
00:24:46.039 --> 00:24:48.000
I know that where I want to get with him.

495
00:24:48.519 --> 00:24:50.960
I just now it was like recently have started being

496
00:24:50.960 --> 00:24:53.400
comfortable enough to where I'll get out and at night

497
00:24:54.079 --> 00:24:57.240
and go, you know, on walk out from my car

498
00:24:57.359 --> 00:25:01.119
because years, for years, me and my buddy would just

499
00:25:01.200 --> 00:25:03.119
go in the car at night and go out in

500
00:25:03.119 --> 00:25:05.839
the woods and just sit and listen, and like, you

501
00:25:05.960 --> 00:25:08.519
learn a lot by doing that, and a lot of

502
00:25:08.519 --> 00:25:10.799
crazy stuff has happened to us just doing that. Like

503
00:25:11.960 --> 00:25:13.519
you know, you go to the same spots over and

504
00:25:13.559 --> 00:25:17.720
over again, and like this, you know, like for instance,

505
00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:20.759
I would take I did this little experiment where I

506
00:25:20.799 --> 00:25:22.759
have this spot, but I would take different people, Like

507
00:25:22.759 --> 00:25:25.200
I would take my girlfriend at the time, and then

508
00:25:25.240 --> 00:25:27.400
I would take my buddy that would he started the

509
00:25:27.400 --> 00:25:29.319
whole thing with me, and each person that I would

510
00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:32.880
take had a different response. From them. So like, let's

511
00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:35.720
say it when I took my ex girlfriend, like we'd

512
00:25:35.759 --> 00:25:38.000
be sitting there and a pebbles would bounce off the car.

513
00:25:38.839 --> 00:25:41.039
But when I would take my buddy that was started

514
00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:43.200
it with me, Like they would come by the car

515
00:25:43.279 --> 00:25:46.200
and like run sticks down it or like you know,

516
00:25:46.440 --> 00:25:50.799
jiggle the antenna, and it was the same reaction each

517
00:25:50.839 --> 00:25:53.359
time I brought that same person. So it's like each

518
00:25:53.400 --> 00:25:56.279
person had their own little experience that was different.

519
00:25:56.960 --> 00:25:59.759
Kyle, I saw that happen in Oakridge in a certain area,

520
00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:03.400
and it's like it all depended on the intention of

521
00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:06.440
the person that was there, if they were how open

522
00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:09.559
they were to it. It was it changed my life

523
00:26:09.559 --> 00:26:13.680
when I saw that in actual in real life. Oh yeah,

524
00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:18.400
I know exactly what you're talking about, dude. It was wild.

525
00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:22.000
Yeah, And there's like there's so many things that they like.

526
00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:24.920
It truly is like I've taken people out there where

527
00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:28.119
they just like you stop your car and you go

528
00:26:28.160 --> 00:26:30.839
to get out, and it's like, oh no, we got it.

529
00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:33.599
Lists just go. We can't be here. Like there's just

530
00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:36.359
some people that they do not want and there's some

531
00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:38.680
people that they won't make anything. You'd be like make

532
00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:40.480
yourself look like a fool trying to take someone out

533
00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:44.240
sometimes because it just will not nothing will happen absolutely,

534
00:26:44.359 --> 00:26:48.160
and it's just it depends really on the person's intention

535
00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:50.400
and what they're Like, I really it's like a dog,

536
00:26:50.480 --> 00:26:52.839
you know that bigfoots will tell you how a person

537
00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:54.160
really is or something like that.

538
00:26:54.200 --> 00:26:57.440
Almost you know, Yeah, that's that's a great way to

539
00:26:57.559 --> 00:27:01.680
put it. What was the one thing you feel that

540
00:27:01.759 --> 00:27:04.799
really set you into it? And I'm using your own

541
00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:09.519
words here, that the one thing that happened that set

542
00:27:09.599 --> 00:27:12.559
you off into feeling like I feel like I'm nuts.

543
00:27:13.839 --> 00:27:18.480
Oh, just like the things I would hear, and like

544
00:27:18.519 --> 00:27:21.920
the things I would start seeing, and like all these

545
00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:25.000
things I was figuring out like by you know, like

546
00:27:25.960 --> 00:27:28.880
right around us, Like am I like because someone else

547
00:27:28.920 --> 00:27:31.480
had to have noticed it, because I'm like finding all

548
00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:35.079
these like tree structures that are really obvious, and like

549
00:27:35.160 --> 00:27:38.759
you know, footprints everywhere, and like these noises at night

550
00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:43.279
of like yelling and like just crazy sound like I

551
00:27:43.279 --> 00:27:45.519
don't know, it's just all these things. And I was like,

552
00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:49.519
you know, I'd try to like show pictures I took

553
00:27:49.519 --> 00:27:51.119
to people and they would be like they couldn't see

554
00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:52.799
exactly what I would see and I'd be like, all right,

555
00:27:52.839 --> 00:27:55.480
what the hell? And just some people just won't let

556
00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:57.319
it in because I think if they once you let

557
00:27:57.319 --> 00:28:01.359
it in, it like you know, you actually start thinking

558
00:28:01.559 --> 00:28:03.960
or knowing it's real, then it's like you can't change

559
00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:08.359
that is forever. And so people are scared, and so

560
00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:10.359
they won't let it in so that they don't have to,

561
00:28:10.519 --> 00:28:12.839
you know, be scared it does.

562
00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:17.319
I agree with that one hundred percent as well. It

563
00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:24.079
becomes very very interesting very quickly. Was there a situation

564
00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:28.839
where that made you start thinking that you could talk

565
00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:31.880
to them directly out loud. I've noticed you've You've mentioned

566
00:28:31.880 --> 00:28:33.920
that a few times, where you you talk to them

567
00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:34.920
directly out loud.

568
00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:38.680
Oh, I do that every time. I do it because, uh,

569
00:28:39.880 --> 00:28:42.519
partly because it's if I just listen and don't talk,

570
00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:45.200
I feel like I'm being like almost disrespectful, and like

571
00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:47.880
it's because I'm scared. And so when I when I

572
00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:50.319
get scared, i'll sing or i'll you know, i'll talk,

573
00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:53.079
you know, to them to make myself feel a little

574
00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:55.440
bit better and to you know, so I know, I'm

575
00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:58.839
pretty sure that they can understand what we say. And

576
00:28:58.880 --> 00:29:00.799
if you say it with the you know, with with

577
00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:03.960
your feelings as well, then you know they they'll get

578
00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:05.839
it because they can tell what you're thinking. I mean,

579
00:29:05.880 --> 00:29:08.519
there's no doubt about that. And I've had the mind

580
00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:12.319
speak thing happened to me too, at least once. When

581
00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:14.960
I was in my trailer in that field, I was

582
00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:17.240
kind of like I was like dozing off and I

583
00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:18.960
was sitting there, I was thinking about them, and I

584
00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:22.200
was dozing off, and as I was like right when,

585
00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:24.279
I kind of like went in between sleep and like

586
00:29:24.359 --> 00:29:26.119
you know, like that trance you get into where you

587
00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:30.720
kind of like autopilot whatever, like it was, I there

588
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:32.599
was like a group of them standing there in my mind,

589
00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:34.720
and I was like, why are you guys here? And

590
00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:37.079
I answered myself with my voice, but it was a

591
00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:40.319
deeper voice, and it was like, we're here to watch you.

592
00:29:40.359 --> 00:29:42.960
And I said why and they never answered me. And

593
00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:44.839
that was the only time I ever had anything like

594
00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:49.960
that happened. But I mean, we were we we used

595
00:29:49.960 --> 00:29:51.599
to go out, Me and my buddy would go out

596
00:29:51.759 --> 00:29:54.720
every night, like for years and in the woods and

597
00:29:54.759 --> 00:29:58.240
there's different spots all around Dexter that are would have

598
00:29:58.279 --> 00:30:01.960
different like things happen. So we'd sit. We'd be sitting

599
00:30:01.960 --> 00:30:04.319
there in the dark listening and you know we'd fall

600
00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:08.119
asleep like in our seats, and uh, like a couple

601
00:30:08.160 --> 00:30:10.319
of times we got woke up to fingernails tapping on

602
00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:14.200
the window and uh like, uh, he he had his

603
00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:16.519
window down because he wasn't scared. First say, he was scared,

604
00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:18.480
but he wasn't. Like he would always like push it

605
00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:20.000
and he would like he had his arm hanging out

606
00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:22.000
the window and stuff and he would like nod out

607
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:25.640
and uh he said one time he woke up and

608
00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:28.720
one had like pressed his arm with his finger really hard,

609
00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:32.200
and uh he said he woke up to like his

610
00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:34.599
arm being pushed and he's like whoa, whoa, whoa, And

611
00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:36.920
like that was We got out of there right after that.

612
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:39.640
But like we'd be sitting there sometimes and they would

613
00:30:39.640 --> 00:30:43.160
like walk by and go like it was crazy. I

614
00:30:43.200 --> 00:30:45.799
mean so many things like sticks hitting my car out

615
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:48.519
of nowhere so hard that would like move the car.

616
00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:52.039
And yeah, I mean there's just so many things. And

617
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:56.240
like I started go, you know, going everywhere around out

618
00:30:56.240 --> 00:30:57.920
here to try to, you know, just to see what

619
00:30:57.960 --> 00:30:58.720
I could experience.

620
00:30:59.240 --> 00:31:02.519
Big for society would be right back after these messages.

621
00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:22.799
And I mean I've got I would find giant piles

622
00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:24.920
of sticks out in the middle, like way out in

623
00:31:24.920 --> 00:31:27.599
the woods, like you know where people wouldn't do something

624
00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:30.240
like this, like you know, pile like nine foot high

625
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:32.640
piles of sticks like they were cleaning up or something.

626
00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:37.279
And then, uh, so here's a crazy thing is you know,

627
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:41.160
we don't have jack rabbits here in this part of Oregon.

628
00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:44.359
There's just no jack rabbits. And they're like over in

629
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:48.799
the eastern Oregon. And uh, there's right right in between

630
00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:51.400
Dexter and Ochres there's this rest stop and it's got

631
00:31:51.400 --> 00:31:54.759
this really tall like a vent thing that you know

632
00:31:54.960 --> 00:31:58.680
for the from the toilets, and I'd say it's probably

633
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:04.240
feet up. And uh we pulled in there one night

634
00:32:04.599 --> 00:32:07.559
and uh I looked up and there was a jack

635
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:11.200
rabbit on the top of that vent and I knocked.

636
00:32:11.240 --> 00:32:13.160
I grabbed a stick and I knocked it off of there.

637
00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:14.920
I was like what And it had it looked like

638
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:18.720
something a big handed squeezed it and carried it and

639
00:32:18.720 --> 00:32:20.799
it had a big imprint on it. I have pictures

640
00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:24.079
of it, but it looked like something. So something had

641
00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:28.680
carried that in its hand from Eastern Oregon where they

642
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:31.599
have jack rabbits is all I can think of. And

643
00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:34.359
then it's like that was crazy to me. That was

644
00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:39.119
a really weird situation there. No, it was dead.

645
00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:42.160
Wow, that is super weird.

646
00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:45.279
And then when I started realizing that they can get

647
00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:47.880
in your head is we were coming up one night.

648
00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:50.279
So if you come up from the Highway fifty eight,

649
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:53.480
you go straight up and then you take a right

650
00:32:53.519 --> 00:32:56.039
and it goes down this road called Rogers and it's

651
00:32:56.039 --> 00:32:59.039
about a mile all the way, you know, the whole road,

652
00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:01.960
and it's a straight straight away. And so we were

653
00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:05.000
coming up one night and then sorry, it's a straight

654
00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:06.240
away and then you take it right down to the

655
00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:08.599
end of it. So we were coming up from Highway

656
00:33:08.599 --> 00:33:10.279
fifty eight one night and we were about to turn

657
00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:14.079
onto that road and these two flashlights came from behind

658
00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:17.079
the church is that's up there, and then it like

659
00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:19.480
these two flashlights came out looked and then the jetted

660
00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:21.279
across the road and it was like what was that

661
00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:24.240
because it's this big black thing with the two flashlights,

662
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:27.599
you know, which was its size, and we were like whoa.

663
00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:29.440
So my buddy that was driving like sped up to

664
00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:30.720
try to see if we could see it and it

665
00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:33.559
was it was gone, like he just it went. Seriously.

666
00:33:33.599 --> 00:33:35.480
It was weird. That's what made my stomach feel where

667
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:37.200
it's like nothing's supposed to move like that. That was

668
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:40.319
really really weird. So we went down to my house

669
00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:42.960
and we were there for twenty minutes, and then we

670
00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:45.160
came back up the same way and as we turned

671
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:47.000
onto that road again and it was standing in the

672
00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:49.200
middle of the road up towards the top and it

673
00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:51.680
was just waiting for us. It knew we were coming

674
00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:55.599
back that way, and so it when we finally turned

675
00:33:55.640 --> 00:33:57.440
the corner and we've seen its eyes up there waiting.

676
00:33:57.799 --> 00:34:02.039
It like ran across the road three different and it

677
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:04.799
never bounced once. They have this way about them where

678
00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:08.639
they can stay completely level and you know, like we walk,

679
00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:11.000
we have like a up and down type of movement.

680
00:34:11.960 --> 00:34:14.679
They don't. They have a straight like they stay at

681
00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:17.079
one level. Their head will stay so they can be

682
00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:19.519
like a it's the extra hinge in their foot. I

683
00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:21.159
guess you know where we have a bridge, they have

684
00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:24.119
a hinge, right, so they can. It takes away that

685
00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:26.719
whole bounce movement and they walk properly. You know, if

686
00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:30.039
you ever find bigfoot tracks, you know if it's real

687
00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:32.280
or fake. By if the tracks are in a straight

688
00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:35.199
line and it's just one line, then you know you've

689
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:37.519
got real bigfoot tracks. If they're side by side, then

690
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:40.079
it's probably someone trying to be funny.

691
00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:46.559
Absolutely, before I forget, do you have, I'm just gonna

692
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:49.039
ask you a few things just maybe people can help

693
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:54.000
in the comments. Do you have like a home computer

694
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:54.840
or anything you use?

695
00:34:56.400 --> 00:34:58.960
I have. I have a laptop and that's I just

696
00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:00.880
I literally have my life top just to put my

697
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:07.760
big foot stuff on. It's uh right now, it's a

698
00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:11.920
it's one of those big gaming laptops. It's like it's

699
00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:15.800
an ASIS. It's a it's a it's a little bit older,

700
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:19.079
but it's a really big boxing thing. It's like a

701
00:35:19.199 --> 00:35:22.320
for gaming. So it's got a lot of memory on it.

702
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:27.800
Three hard drives so PC. Yeah, what kind of ports

703
00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:28.760
does it have on the side?

704
00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:36.840
One second? Take a look here. Well it's got it's

705
00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:39.159
got all the standard ports that the normal laptop has.

706
00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:41.440
I mean it's got all of it's got HP mine,

707
00:35:41.519 --> 00:35:45.840
it's got like a USB and all that other stuff.

708
00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:50.360
Okay, so listeners, if you can think of a way

709
00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:53.840
that he can use that to take footage from high

710
00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:56.400
eight tapes and put it on his computers so he

711
00:35:56.440 --> 00:35:59.960
could put it somewhere else, put it in the comments

712
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:02.840
on YouTube, and maybe we can figure out a way

713
00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:05.000
that he can actually do this if he wants to.

714
00:36:05.320 --> 00:36:08.920
So we'll see if we can get some help there. Oh,

715
00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:09.880
you already looked into it.

716
00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:12.800
Okay, I looked into it a little bit. And there's

717
00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:16.199
adapters you can buy on Amazon, but they're they're like expensive,

718
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:18.239
and so that's why I haven't got one. But it

719
00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:21.280
can it can take it and make it digital. Okay,

720
00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:24.159
you like copy it. Yeah, So I just haven't got

721
00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:25.880
one of those yet, but I really want to because

722
00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:29.119
I mean, I've got so much stuff that once I

723
00:36:29.159 --> 00:36:31.679
start doing that, then I will make a YouTube channel

724
00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:32.079
for sure.

725
00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:33.559
Absolutely.

726
00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:36.159
I've had so many different experiences. It's like it's hard

727
00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:38.199
and I'm not really good at this type of thing here,

728
00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:39.719
So it's like that's why I'm kind of all over

729
00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:40.079
the place.

730
00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:42.760
Oh, we're just kind of we're just kind of chatting.

731
00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:45.360
Dexter Is is such an interesting area.

732
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:45.519
You know.

733
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:50.360
I did drive from Eugene over to Oakridge and right

734
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:54.639
after dexter Is the point where you definitely feel like, Okay,

735
00:36:55.639 --> 00:36:58.800
I'm getting into something else. Now, there's something weird going on.

736
00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:02.639
I'm not sure what's going on, but there's a weird

737
00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:04.920
vibe there and then just continues all the way in.

738
00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:06.800
So I don't know if it's just because all of

739
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:09.760
a sudden boom, there's a lot of forests, but I

740
00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:13.119
agree with you, there's some there's some weird stuff. You

741
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:15.320
get some weird vibes around that area for sure.

742
00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:19.000
Oh yeah. Oakridge is one of those places where it's

743
00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:23.000
like I've went out there. Like my first experience. I

744
00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:26.679
forgot to mention this, my very first like ever encounter

745
00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:29.079
with anything like that was my grandmother used to have

746
00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:31.760
a house up in Oakridge when I was a young

747
00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:35.679
young and right behind it was this old logging bridge

748
00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:38.760
and then it went into the forest and me and

749
00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:41.199
my dad would go fishing there. And I remember one

750
00:37:41.239 --> 00:37:44.599
time we were fishing there and my dad we heard

751
00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:48.119
something barreling down the like the woods behind us, it

752
00:37:48.199 --> 00:37:50.599
was like a hill. My dad grabbed me, let all

753
00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:52.639
the fishing stuff fall into the river, and like he

754
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:55.000
booked across that bridge with me in his arms, and

755
00:37:55.760 --> 00:37:57.559
he's still to this we don't know what it was,

756
00:37:57.599 --> 00:37:59.679
but he scared him so bad that he thought we

757
00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:02.239
were like something was going to like humble us off

758
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:04.920
the little ledge. And he says he thinks it was

759
00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:07.360
a big foot. My dad's all about bigfoot. He just

760
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:11.800
he's never had any sightings because I don't know, he's

761
00:38:11.880 --> 00:38:14.760
like he. I think it's he wants it so bad

762
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:17.480
that he overlooks the things and the patients that it

763
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:20.440
takes to actually do that. Some people just like they

764
00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:25.880
just you know, are too maybe like too eager for it.

765
00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:27.880
I guess sometimes.

766
00:38:27.679 --> 00:38:29.960
Sure, it does take a lot of patients. Have you

767
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:32.000
ever asked to see if he wants to go out

768
00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:32.239
with you?

769
00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:35.360
Or oh we do, Yeah, we just went camp in

770
00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:39.280
a week ago. It's like towards the coast and then

771
00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:41.559
you go up this road seven miles and it's like

772
00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:45.639
the most active place that I've been to ever. And

773
00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:50.719
I mean it's just like any if I was. When

774
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:53.239
I take anybody who hasn't experienced it, I take him

775
00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:57.039
there at night because without a doubt you're gonna have

776
00:38:57.119 --> 00:38:59.639
experiences there. Like I get out of the car and

777
00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:02.199
I get I just sit on my hood at night

778
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:05.519
and they'll break stuff all around me throw rocks in

779
00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:09.800
the river and just like it's like completely, it's just awesome,

780
00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:12.440
like it's they do everything but come up and sit

781
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:13.480
next to me. Pretty much.

782
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:16.320
This is over on the west side, right, this is

783
00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:17.400
not over by.

784
00:39:18.679 --> 00:39:21.119
Yeah, it's not by Dexter. It's like an hour from Dexter.

785
00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:23.920
Gotcha, Okay, interesting but yeah, I.

786
00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:27.920
Mean it's yeah, And it's it's the further the coaser

787
00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:30.239
you get to the coast, the more active it seems

788
00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:34.199
they get, like the more at least the visual activity

789
00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:36.880
they have, like with their symbols and all their language stuff.

790
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:39.280
I don't know. I think it's because it's more rugged

791
00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:41.760
over there and the people are less apt to just

792
00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:44.960
go drudging into the woods. I mean around here you

793
00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:47.800
can kind of like drive anywhere and walk anywhere in

794
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:51.440
the woods, and I think that they like it where

795
00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:53.920
you can't really do that as much, or people aren't

796
00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:55.639
more you know, as likely to do that.

797
00:39:57.000 --> 00:39:59.840
Now that that totally makes sense, you'd mentioned that you

798
00:39:59.840 --> 00:40:03.960
have an interesting job where you're you're cleaning uh sites

799
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:08.440
around different forces. Yeah, your friend or coworker whatever be

800
00:40:08.519 --> 00:40:11.039
interesting in talking, but it'd be very interesting to hear

801
00:40:11.079 --> 00:40:13.159
his viewpoint as well. Just kind of put that in

802
00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:13.599
your ear.

803
00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:17.599
Oh yeah, he's got other stories too, because he goes

804
00:40:17.639 --> 00:40:20.960
out he cuts wood up in Oakridge. He goes way up,

805
00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:23.159
way up in the Oakridge woods. So he has got

806
00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:26.360
a lot of actually experiences that are trippy.

807
00:40:26.519 --> 00:40:28.119
Kyle, I would love to talk to him, if you

808
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:32.400
can pass on my information for sure. Yeah, of course, Yeah,

809
00:40:32.400 --> 00:40:33.079
that would be great.

810
00:40:33.199 --> 00:40:35.920
I see things in my way so much that it's

811
00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:38.719
you know, it's hard to like veer and like try

812
00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:41.360
to think like a mind that maybe doesn't know as

813
00:40:41.440 --> 00:40:42.480
much as I do about it.

814
00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:46.320
Oh, absolutely, one that's not maybe open to it in

815
00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:47.599
a certain way, if you know what I mean.

816
00:40:48.039 --> 00:40:52.559
Yeah, because with that when you when that world opens

817
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:55.639
in your brain, then other things are with it, you know,

818
00:40:55.760 --> 00:41:00.360
like like ghosts like I've lost. Like my grandma who

819
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:05.320
raised me, she like was into she was into it too,

820
00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:07.480
Like she would come home from work and she would

821
00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:10.760
tell me that there's bigfoot out in the driveway because

822
00:41:10.960 --> 00:41:13.480
are beginning of our driveway was like these really tall

823
00:41:13.519 --> 00:41:15.559
trees that our neighbor had like a little baby forest,

824
00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:18.000
and she said it would like walk along with her,

825
00:41:18.039 --> 00:41:19.880
and she would sometimes be kind of scared to get

826
00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:23.000
out of her car and stuff and she thought fairies

827
00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:24.679
flying around the yard and stuff too. I mean it

828
00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:27.400
was it's I've got one on video too.

829
00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:30.000
Is thisridge?

830
00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:35.360
This is my great grandmother had the house and Oakridge

831
00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:37.199
when I was a kid.

832
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:39.440
Yeah, so you have fairies on video?

833
00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:43.119
I have one. Yeah. It was it's flying around and

834
00:41:43.159 --> 00:41:44.679
it like dips down in the water, and that's a

835
00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:46.639
that spot I was telling you about with the tunnels

836
00:41:47.239 --> 00:41:51.079
that place. Since then, they've they've logged it and it's

837
00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:55.159
like it's not that place anymore. It's just completely everything

838
00:41:55.199 --> 00:41:57.480
that all everywhere where I started right here in Dexter,

839
00:41:57.800 --> 00:41:59.960
like with all my like videos and all that is

840
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:03.800
been logged and like it's just been changed so much

841
00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:06.800
that and it's not the same. And I believe they

842
00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:09.760
still kind of go around there, but there's just so

843
00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:13.199
many places you can't go now, and like everything's just changed.

844
00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:16.440
And it's been a while since I've even been up there.

845
00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:19.159
I've kind of think broadened out and went into like

846
00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:22.400
but you know, like, well this is what a lot

847
00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:25.079
of people have said. And the other podcast is there's

848
00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:28.519
I get more activity around the areas that are populated

849
00:42:28.519 --> 00:42:30.199
than I do way out in the middle of nowhere,

850
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:35.280
and so you know, like it's it is. It's weird,

851
00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:37.639
but it's like I see why because they can benefit

852
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:40.159
from us, you know, quite a bit. But nothing's ever

853
00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:42.400
really disturbed that I've ever noticed, you know what I mean,

854
00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:44.920
They're really cautious about what they touch.

855
00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:49.400
Absolutely, because I know people are listening from the government

856
00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:50.480
on this absolutely.

857
00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:54.599
Oh yeah, the homes of people listening absolutely.

858
00:42:57.559 --> 00:43:02.760
Speaking of Oakridge, have you heard of any interesting interactions

859
00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:05.760
that have happened around that town to do with Bigfoot?

860
00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:07.679
You know.

861
00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:10.159
I I listened to the podcasts that you had of

862
00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:12.239
people from Oakridge, and I feel like I know the guy.

863
00:43:12.320 --> 00:43:15.679
But I honestly like Oakridge is kind of one of

864
00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:17.599
those things where I've done my squatching out there a

865
00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:21.559
couple of times, and my grandpa's ashes repoored up Salmon Creek.

866
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:22.400
Oh wow.

867
00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:26.079
And yeah, so I mean going there, it's like and

868
00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:28.639
my grandpa he would go out in the woods by himself

869
00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:31.880
for two weeks at a time and he he never

870
00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:34.559
would talk about Bigfoot or anything like that, and it

871
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:36.360
was it was so weird to me. It's like some

872
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:39.159
people can go out there and just not experience anything

873
00:43:39.199 --> 00:43:41.519
like that, and you know, I just don't get it.

874
00:43:42.239 --> 00:43:44.800
But no, he his ashes are poured there out there

875
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:46.599
in this a plaque he put on a tree when

876
00:43:46.639 --> 00:43:48.559
he was younger and it's still there and he put

877
00:43:48.559 --> 00:43:51.400
his ashes underneath of it. But other than that, like

878
00:43:51.519 --> 00:43:54.400
I don't, I kind of just I have enough going

879
00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:56.760
on right around my area that I don't like. It's

880
00:43:57.000 --> 00:43:59.079
you know, it's it's like thirty miles from here, so

881
00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:01.199
it's like if I don't have to travel as far

882
00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:04.639
to get any you know, to hang out. Plus, I

883
00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:06.400
like to stick around my area and get the ones

884
00:44:06.440 --> 00:44:09.000
that I, you know, hang out with to be more

885
00:44:09.400 --> 00:44:13.679
used to me. And it's like once you it's uh,

886
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:17.239
I think that Uh what's his name? The guy from

887
00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:21.679
Sasquatch Theory, he said this, Yeah, Miguel said something that

888
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:24.639
kind of like was like, whoa, it's one day they

889
00:44:24.719 --> 00:44:28.480
like they pick you and they kind of are like

890
00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:31.079
with you, and it's like they kind of like are

891
00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:33.360
with you, you know, and places where it's like they

892
00:44:33.400 --> 00:44:37.079
follow you almost, And everyone that goes in the woods

893
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:39.920
with me is like Wow, it's like it's a different

894
00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:42.880
experience for them because all of a sudden you're hearing

895
00:44:42.920 --> 00:44:46.480
trees break, and like I took this one, this one

896
00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:48.239
girl who I got a hold of me and she

897
00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:49.960
wanted to have a big fit experience. I took her

898
00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:53.440
up to Loon Lake and it was nighttime. But by

899
00:44:53.480 --> 00:44:55.239
the time we got there and we went up this

900
00:44:55.360 --> 00:44:58.480
road that I've had a couple of things you know, happened.

901
00:44:58.519 --> 00:45:00.639
And we got out of the car and we're walking

902
00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:03.519
and right up this hill from us, this giant tree

903
00:45:03.599 --> 00:45:07.679
was like, I was like, awesome, And it scared me

904
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:09.119
a little bit because it was like it was such

905
00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:11.519
a big tree, I don't even understand, Like it sounded

906
00:45:11.559 --> 00:45:15.360
like a shotgun. And so I was like, can you

907
00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:18.679
guys do that again? And nothing, and she's like, yeah,

908
00:45:18.719 --> 00:45:21.280
can you guys please break another branch? And then as

909
00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:25.159
soon as she said that, one tree, two trees, three trees,

910
00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:28.199
four trees, as it went down the line, all these

911
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:31.760
trees broke. Like it was like I don't know if

912
00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:33.079
it was I don't know if it was the same

913
00:45:33.119 --> 00:45:35.199
one walking and just breaking stuff as it walked away,

914
00:45:35.320 --> 00:45:38.480
or if it was a big foot of each tree.

915
00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:40.039
Because it happened so fast.

916
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:43.360
Big for society, who will be right back after these messages?

917
00:45:59.239 --> 00:46:04.760
It was like, so, Kyle, here's the weird thing. This

918
00:46:04.840 --> 00:46:08.559
is the third or fourth interview in a row. Because

919
00:46:08.599 --> 00:46:11.480
I do interviews a lot. This is the third or

920
00:46:11.480 --> 00:46:16.159
fourth one in a row where the person has talked

921
00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:20.599
about something or requested something, and then immediately after something

922
00:46:20.639 --> 00:46:25.440
happens in response. It is such a commonality.

923
00:46:26.599 --> 00:46:28.960
They know what we're they understand this. I think they

924
00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:32.880
know us better than we do because they can get

925
00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:35.000
in our heads. You can't lie to them. They can

926
00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:37.440
they can tell what you're thinking. They know what you're about.

927
00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:40.440
Like it's like basically, you got to go out there

928
00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:43.639
with you know, your heart open and pure or else

929
00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:47.360
you're not going to get anything but negative results or

930
00:46:47.880 --> 00:46:51.440
know nothing. So it's like, you know, you have to.

931
00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:53.360
That's why I talk to him a lot, to try to,

932
00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:55.880
you know, to let them know even though I can

933
00:46:55.880 --> 00:46:58.039
tell I know that they're like, you're feeling what I'm thinking.

934
00:46:58.559 --> 00:47:01.280
I talked to them because it helps me and I

935
00:47:01.320 --> 00:47:04.320
know that it like it has to like interest them,

936
00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:08.159
you know, to have that verbalness. Because sometimes when I'm

937
00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:11.400
driving for my job, I drive a lot, so sometimes

938
00:47:11.440 --> 00:47:13.400
I'll just like when I'm out in the woods, I'll

939
00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:15.199
just like pull into a little spot and I'll just

940
00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:17.679
like take a nap. But every time I do that,

941
00:47:17.719 --> 00:47:19.840
I put my phone on record audio record, and I

942
00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:21.559
put it on top of I reached out my sun

943
00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:22.840
roof put it on the top, and then I close

944
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:25.800
the sun roof so they can't hear me snoring or whatever.

945
00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:29.800
When I sleep, right, But and I get some weird stuff,

946
00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:32.400
like some like voices, and like there's this one where

947
00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:34.960
I put my It was a little bit after I

948
00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:36.760
put my phone out there, and you hear this loud

949
00:47:36.760 --> 00:47:43.239
tree break and then you hear like a breathing right

950
00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:45.760
next to my phone, but I never heard it. But

951
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:49.000
I also fell asleep for a little bit. But wow,

952
00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:51.480
it's weird. I mean, there's a lot of stuff that

953
00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:55.519
is close to us that we cannot with our naked

954
00:47:55.559 --> 00:47:58.239
eyes or ears, that we cannot hear or see. But

955
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:01.400
the cameras they do catch that stuff. And that's what's

956
00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:04.880
another reason why I was taking pictures so often. And

957
00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:08.519
you know, at nighttime, I would just snap pictures in

958
00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:12.239
the dark, like with a flash, and like the more

959
00:48:12.400 --> 00:48:14.639
the so I would get there and you know, you'd

960
00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:18.280
feel okay, be like you know, like really relaxed, feeling,

961
00:48:18.360 --> 00:48:20.159
and I'd snap a couple of pictures in the dark.

962
00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:24.000
Then you start getting hearing that rainstick sound, and then

963
00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:27.559
then it starts the feeling start you to get more intense,

964
00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:30.400
like you start getting like stressed, feeling like like uh,

965
00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:33.000
like nervous. So I'd start taking more pictures in each

966
00:48:33.039 --> 00:48:36.719
one of those pictures had more orbs in it, and

967
00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:39.360
until it got to be a thousands and thousands of orbs.

968
00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:42.880
And uh, each of those orbs, if you zoom in

969
00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:45.280
on those orbs really closely, each one of them has

970
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:49.719
faces like a cartoonish looking face, and they have all

971
00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:52.760
sorts of different colors and expressions. And I mean, that's

972
00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:54.760
got to mean something, but I don't I don't know what.

973
00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:57.920
But I've heard other people say, yeah too, Yeah, that's

974
00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:01.840
that is. It's very very interesting and.

975
00:49:01.800 --> 00:49:03.639
Weird flat you see a lot of weird flashes and

976
00:49:03.760 --> 00:49:06.440
lights and stuff at night too. Like I found this

977
00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:09.920
one one place where the trees had been like pushed

978
00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:12.559
down all outwardly, and so it was this big open

979
00:49:12.639 --> 00:49:15.519
circle and right in the middle of that circle was

980
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:17.760
these two trees pushed inward as an x, and it

981
00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:22.159
was facing the sky. And so I kind of couldn't

982
00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:24.360
help but think that maybe that was like a marker

983
00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:27.679
for something that flies to like, you know, because the

984
00:49:27.719 --> 00:49:31.639
Bigfoot in the UFO thing, they have so much correlation

985
00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:34.840
with each other throughout history that I can help it

986
00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:39.239
think that maybe they do fly in ships as well.

987
00:49:39.239 --> 00:49:41.880
You know. And my buddy that I live with here,

988
00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:45.880
who is my roommate and also my best friend. He

989
00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:48.639
it goes to Alaska for half the year every year,

990
00:49:48.719 --> 00:49:51.360
and he was actually on the Discovery Channel for his

991
00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:56.039
aliens that he was like had going on. He had

992
00:49:56.039 --> 00:49:59.599
this experience with these little flying like steam rays in

993
00:49:59.639 --> 00:50:03.920
the area. You couldn't see him with your eyes on, Kim. Yeah, yeah,

994
00:50:03.960 --> 00:50:07.679
and they would fly all together and create these little beans,

995
00:50:08.079 --> 00:50:10.719
these little alien guys, and then they would just dissipate

996
00:50:11.039 --> 00:50:14.360
and the alien would be gone. But yeah, I mean

997
00:50:14.880 --> 00:50:17.119
he's that's his whole, Like, he's got that going on,

998
00:50:17.159 --> 00:50:18.639
and I got this big Foot thing going on. So

999
00:50:18.679 --> 00:50:21.039
it's like, but he's got a picture of one of

1000
00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:24.719
the little the little spaceships that he snapped a picture

1001
00:50:24.719 --> 00:50:28.480
of that he videotaped one shooting a beam down and

1002
00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:32.000
then sucking up this big ball of whatever. But in

1003
00:50:32.039 --> 00:50:33.920
the one of the pictures, you can zoom in and

1004
00:50:33.920 --> 00:50:36.000
you can see three different kinds of aliens in the

1005
00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:39.800
window of it looking out. Oh yeah, and one of

1006
00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:41.280
them kind of looks like a bigfoot.

1007
00:50:42.360 --> 00:50:45.039
Oh boy, that's really cool. You have that friendship though,

1008
00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:48.239
so you can compare notes, because there's probably stuff that

1009
00:50:48.239 --> 00:50:50.599
that each each one of you is seeing that the

1010
00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:53.960
other one's not, and you can kind of compare and contrast.

1011
00:50:55.320 --> 00:51:00.079
We had talked off air about some things, Yeah, and

1012
00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:05.559
you had mentioned that there is more going on in

1013
00:51:05.639 --> 00:51:08.159
Oakridge beside Bigfoot.

1014
00:51:09.039 --> 00:51:13.559
Yeah. I mean, uh, it's it's weird up there. It's

1015
00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:18.199
like there's it's something that I don't know, see, I've

1016
00:51:18.199 --> 00:51:23.000
heard lots of talk about, like there's like I don't know,

1017
00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:26.400
it gets really deep and and it's like alien like

1018
00:51:26.480 --> 00:51:29.920
people that they've they they've captured bigfoots and like, uh,

1019
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:33.440
you know, genetically modified them with other extraterrestrials that the

1020
00:51:33.480 --> 00:51:35.480
government works with. I mean, now, all that kind of stuff.

1021
00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:37.400
It seems a little bit far fetched, but really, if

1022
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:40.400
you experience enough of things, it kind of, you know,

1023
00:51:40.679 --> 00:51:41.719
makes a little bit of sense.

1024
00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:45.679
You just said, like a sentence that was had a

1025
00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:47.840
lot in it. Do you mind if we go back

1026
00:51:47.880 --> 00:51:50.760
to can you provide any more details? So have you

1027
00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:55.280
heard of Bigfoot being captured? And you said genetically manipulated?

1028
00:51:55.400 --> 00:51:58.400
Or yeah, I mean there's a guy that you can

1029
00:51:58.440 --> 00:52:02.000
go on YouTube and find. His name is uh Kiwani

1030
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:05.719
Laps or Sitis. Right, it's a hard one. But have

1031
00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:06.559
you heard of him?

1032
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:09.679
I've seen his books, yeah, yeah.

1033
00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:11.960
And so I mean he's one of the ones that

1034
00:52:12.039 --> 00:52:14.719
talks about that. Like actually, he's like pretty much the

1035
00:52:14.719 --> 00:52:18.239
only one I've heard talk about that. But I don't know,

1036
00:52:18.280 --> 00:52:20.360
it's just it's hard. It's hard to know, you know.

1037
00:52:20.400 --> 00:52:23.239
That's why it's like I try to stick with like

1038
00:52:23.360 --> 00:52:27.159
this Sasquatch thing, but those things that are like that

1039
00:52:27.280 --> 00:52:29.960
kind of bring themselves up, like with the things that happen,

1040
00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:34.320
because it's hard to wrap your head around being being

1041
00:52:34.400 --> 00:52:38.440
able to do so many like extraterrestrial type of like

1042
00:52:38.519 --> 00:52:43.400
paranormal type of things, you know, yeah, like things it's

1043
00:52:43.480 --> 00:52:47.400
just wild to me, like because I mean it makes

1044
00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:50.639
me wonder if we as humans, we could, if we

1045
00:52:50.719 --> 00:52:53.719
could possibly be able to do what they could can do,

1046
00:52:54.400 --> 00:52:56.679
if we trained our minds, or if we even are

1047
00:52:56.760 --> 00:52:58.360
built to be able to do that. I know we're

1048
00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:01.679
not built like them by any means. By it, I mean,

1049
00:53:01.719 --> 00:53:04.079
there's just so many Like the more you think you

1050
00:53:04.159 --> 00:53:07.039
learn about these guys is the less you really view.

1051
00:53:07.239 --> 00:53:10.920
Like it's like the more questions are opened and it

1052
00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:16.719
gets super deep and then I yeah.

1053
00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:19.840
So then I don't want to push too hard.

1054
00:53:20.079 --> 00:53:22.039
But I am alone.

1055
00:53:24.199 --> 00:53:27.760
So are you saying that certain individuals are saying this

1056
00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:31.159
directly about this area in Oakridge or.

1057
00:53:32.199 --> 00:53:34.639
Well, I've had everyone that I've ever talked to, and

1058
00:53:34.719 --> 00:53:36.320
I've even went up there a couple of times and

1059
00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:39.920
uh with a couple of different people that live up there,

1060
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:42.920
and it's like it's just it's a weird feeling, and

1061
00:53:42.960 --> 00:53:46.280
it's it's like almost got like a curse type of thing,

1062
00:53:46.320 --> 00:53:48.800
because like like I went up there with a girl

1063
00:53:48.880 --> 00:53:50.760
I was seeing and she's like, if we go up

1064
00:53:50.760 --> 00:53:52.679
Salmon Creek, she's like the last person I went up

1065
00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:56.599
there with. Like once we were up there, things were

1066
00:53:56.599 --> 00:53:58.599
okay there, but then like when we got back, we

1067
00:53:58.639 --> 00:54:00.639
got into like this argument and then we ended up

1068
00:54:00.679 --> 00:54:04.360
breaking up and like hitting each other, and I was like, well,

1069
00:54:04.360 --> 00:54:06.360
that's probably nothing to do with up there. But then

1070
00:54:06.440 --> 00:54:09.760
we went up there and like right we were, Yeah,

1071
00:54:09.800 --> 00:54:11.320
we were up there, and like she got out of

1072
00:54:11.320 --> 00:54:12.880
the car. I like just like I like to just

1073
00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:14.840
chill and listen in the car because like I'm a

1074
00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:18.360
little scared at new places and all this. But she

1075
00:54:18.440 --> 00:54:20.599
got out, and like I just like all of a sudden,

1076
00:54:20.639 --> 00:54:22.400
I was just like I did not want to be there,

1077
00:54:22.480 --> 00:54:24.440
Like something in my mind switched, and I'm just like

1078
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:26.480
I just I won't leave, like I did not want

1079
00:54:26.519 --> 00:54:29.119
to be here. So like she I was like, hey,

1080
00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:30.920
let's go. And so she got back in the car

1081
00:54:31.039 --> 00:54:35.840
and literally we haven't talked since. Wow, Like it's just

1082
00:54:35.920 --> 00:54:38.320
like yeah, and we were actually like hanging out pretty

1083
00:54:38.320 --> 00:54:39.920
hard and then all of a sudden we just haven't

1084
00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:43.639
talked since. And it's I mean, that's like whoa. And

1085
00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:45.760
I don't know why, it just we just haven't and

1086
00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:48.480
it's I don't know, I can't help but think maybe

1087
00:54:48.480 --> 00:54:51.599
that place does have some sort of like a you

1088
00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:54.639
know that doesn't things like that since the Bigfoot world

1089
00:54:54.639 --> 00:54:57.280
has opened me and nothing, I don't really dismiss pretty

1090
00:54:57.360 --> 00:54:59.920
much like really anything unless it's just like whoa, Okay,

1091
00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:04.719
I mean, because everything's you know, the world is nothing

1092
00:55:04.760 --> 00:55:06.159
like we are taught that it is.

1093
00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:09.599
So when you say Salmon Creek, you're saying the main

1094
00:55:09.679 --> 00:55:11.239
road that goes up there, right.

1095
00:55:12.239 --> 00:55:14.960
Yeah, there's lots of offshoots on that road.

1096
00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:17.280
You saying also the for service.

1097
00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:21.760
Roads, Yeah, yeah, the forest service roads up there office

1098
00:55:21.800 --> 00:55:27.519
Timm Creek, And like I don't know, I don't really

1099
00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:29.440
I can't really put my finger on what it is

1100
00:55:29.480 --> 00:55:33.159
about that place. That's just so I don't know. Dark.

1101
00:55:34.039 --> 00:55:35.719
I guess that's the only way I can really put

1102
00:55:35.760 --> 00:55:36.800
it is that it's dark.

1103
00:55:37.320 --> 00:55:41.440
How far up? Sorry, how far about roads where you're going.

1104
00:55:42.480 --> 00:55:44.239
Just right when it's like from West ur On, like

1105
00:55:44.280 --> 00:55:46.119
when you go into westferr you start going up, it's

1106
00:55:46.159 --> 00:55:47.079
just like it changes.

1107
00:55:47.320 --> 00:55:48.840
Yeah, I got No, I totally got you.

1108
00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:51.960
And I'm sure a lot of things have happened up there.

1109
00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:54.360
I mean a lot of things and the you know,

1110
00:55:54.599 --> 00:55:56.599
things I haven't even probably heard of, but just like

1111
00:55:57.760 --> 00:55:59.679
weird things that are like you know, like I was

1112
00:55:59.679 --> 00:56:03.159
talking about earlier, I just bad things.

1113
00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:08.320
And there's a lot. Yeah, there's some stuff. Yeah.

1114
00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:11.400
Yeah in my area. I'm comfortable with my area, and

1115
00:56:11.559 --> 00:56:15.360
my area feels like relaxed and like there's only been

1116
00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:17.599
a couple of times around my area where I've been Like, whoa,

1117
00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:21.320
I don't like something's not happy right now right? I

1118
00:56:21.320 --> 00:56:23.400
mean other than that, it's like in my area, I'm

1119
00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:27.519
comfortable with. They know who I am and uh, you know,

1120
00:56:28.079 --> 00:56:31.079
I I've seen them quite a bit. Like you know,

1121
00:56:31.840 --> 00:56:33.679
people never believe me when I say this, but I've

1122
00:56:33.679 --> 00:56:36.880
seen thirty of them in one day. M hm. Up

1123
00:56:36.960 --> 00:56:39.440
there yeah, Like you're not all close, but like at

1124
00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:41.000
a distance, Like if you go out in the woods

1125
00:56:41.440 --> 00:56:43.280
and you sit in a spot where you know that

1126
00:56:43.320 --> 00:56:45.639
they're like if you think about them and then you

1127
00:56:45.679 --> 00:56:48.239
go there, they're going to be there and it might

1128
00:56:48.280 --> 00:56:50.360
take them a little bit to get there.

1129
00:56:50.360 --> 00:56:51.880
And I want to unpack that a bit. So you're

1130
00:56:51.920 --> 00:56:54.280
saying you think about it then you go there or

1131
00:56:54.320 --> 00:56:56.199
is it you go there and then you think about

1132
00:56:56.199 --> 00:56:57.039
it while you're there.

1133
00:56:58.360 --> 00:57:00.639
Oh? Both, I mean, if you think about it, if

1134
00:57:00.679 --> 00:57:03.719
you like, if you're like, I'll get these random like, man,

1135
00:57:03.760 --> 00:57:05.119
I just I want to go in the woods right now,

1136
00:57:05.159 --> 00:57:07.719
like I have to. Like it's almost like they're calling me.

1137
00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:10.199
They're like, hey, come on, and then I'll go. And

1138
00:57:10.199 --> 00:57:11.760
then as soon as we get there, I get out

1139
00:57:11.800 --> 00:57:14.039
of the car and then there's that tree breaker. You know,

1140
00:57:14.599 --> 00:57:16.679
there's that stomping through the woods you hear, or that

1141
00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:20.000
you know weird bark or any that the growls that

1142
00:57:20.039 --> 00:57:21.840
they do too. A lot of people can't catch them,

1143
00:57:21.840 --> 00:57:25.400
but they're they're so low sometimes that there it's almost

1144
00:57:25.440 --> 00:57:28.079
a feeling, not a like an audio, but feeling like

1145
00:57:28.119 --> 00:57:31.840
a rumble in your inse like your chest. Yeah, and

1146
00:57:32.280 --> 00:57:35.800
it's pretty intense, really, I mean, he's just scaring me

1147
00:57:35.800 --> 00:57:37.880
pretty bad. But now it's like it's almost welcoming.

1148
00:57:38.480 --> 00:57:43.320
Have you ever asked or stated, why are you? Why

1149
00:57:43.320 --> 00:57:45.719
are you wanting me to come to this area?

1150
00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:51.599
Right now? I just go with it mostly, like I

1151
00:57:51.679 --> 00:57:53.760
just go there and I just I just talk like

1152
00:57:53.800 --> 00:57:56.440
I'm doing right now, but basically about stuff, you know,

1153
00:57:56.639 --> 00:58:00.480
Like like I just talk to them, like you know,

1154
00:58:00.519 --> 00:58:02.519
I'll tell them about stuff and like this and that.

1155
00:58:02.599 --> 00:58:05.679
And sometimes sometimes it's almost like they're like shut up,

1156
00:58:05.679 --> 00:58:09.880
and they'll break something really close to me and it's

1157
00:58:09.920 --> 00:58:11.840
like all right, cool. So then and a lot of

1158
00:58:11.840 --> 00:58:13.320
times I'll just go out there and I'll just sit

1159
00:58:13.400 --> 00:58:15.559
And that's how I learned a lots by just sitting

1160
00:58:16.199 --> 00:58:19.800
and not making a sound and just like observing everything

1161
00:58:19.840 --> 00:58:22.440
around me, and like anytime I'm in the woods, my

1162
00:58:22.559 --> 00:58:25.920
senses go completely heightened, and I like, I don't talk

1163
00:58:26.000 --> 00:58:29.440
much when I have someone with me, especially like I

1164
00:58:29.440 --> 00:58:31.800
I go like I turn into like this more of

1165
00:58:31.880 --> 00:58:34.159
like a like a you know, like I listen and

1166
00:58:34.199 --> 00:58:38.559
I just like look and I don't talk because when

1167
00:58:38.559 --> 00:58:41.559
I'm with somebody, because you know. But it's crazy how

1168
00:58:41.559 --> 00:58:44.719
this works. Also, you can be out there with someone

1169
00:58:44.800 --> 00:58:46.920
and not talk for an hour. I'll make a peep

1170
00:58:46.960 --> 00:58:48.599
and you'll hear nothing, And as soon as you start

1171
00:58:48.639 --> 00:58:52.559
staying something to somebody, you'll hear a tree break or something. Like.

1172
00:58:52.599 --> 00:58:54.800
They have that time. They know when you're gonna like

1173
00:58:55.159 --> 00:58:57.320
win the right time to make noises to like where

1174
00:58:57.360 --> 00:59:00.599
you can't almost say definitely that that was this or that,

1175
00:59:01.719 --> 00:59:04.480
and it's it's it's there. They just have that that

1176
00:59:04.519 --> 00:59:05.199
way about them.

1177
00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:07.920
I experienced that little bridge a few times as well.

1178
00:59:08.159 --> 00:59:10.440
It's very strange and I don't get it why it

1179
00:59:10.519 --> 00:59:14.239
works like that, but it the same thing happened to

1180
00:59:14.320 --> 00:59:16.320
us multiple times. It's very weird.

1181
00:59:18.119 --> 00:59:21.480
Like it's so like when ah. I've heard a couple

1182
00:59:21.480 --> 00:59:25.920
of different instances where people when people like die, they

1183
00:59:25.960 --> 00:59:29.480
can communicate back to someone that they're close with and

1184
00:59:29.519 --> 00:59:32.079
say that they're like in so many places at once,

1185
00:59:33.400 --> 00:59:35.599
and uh, like they it's kind of like you're not

1186
00:59:35.760 --> 00:59:38.639
you're not physical, You're just like you are everywhere and

1187
00:59:38.719 --> 00:59:41.599
there's no everything you can you know everything. And I

1188
00:59:41.639 --> 00:59:44.039
think and it almost seems to me like that's kind

1189
00:59:44.079 --> 00:59:46.880
of how they are, you know, weird way, Like I've

1190
00:59:46.920 --> 00:59:48.719
heard of natives saying that when they can go where

1191
00:59:48.719 --> 00:59:50.159
we go, when we die, they can go in and

1192
00:59:50.159 --> 00:59:53.800
out of will. I mean that just seems, you know,

1193
00:59:53.920 --> 00:59:57.559
like a big giant subconscious they could conscious pool. I

1194
00:59:57.559 --> 01:00:00.440
don't know, it's something like that. I'm trying figure it

1195
01:00:00.440 --> 01:00:03.559
out more. And like with that, it's like opening more

1196
01:00:04.400 --> 01:00:07.440
of these abilities that I have, like with being able

1197
01:00:07.480 --> 01:00:11.320
to heal with my hands and like being very empathic,

1198
01:00:11.400 --> 01:00:14.039
feeling people's energy and like just knowing how to help

1199
01:00:14.079 --> 01:00:17.880
people without them even telling me how, like what's wrong,

1200
01:00:18.800 --> 01:00:21.679
and just like knowing these things like that. And I

1201
01:00:21.719 --> 01:00:25.039
think that might be part of why they like latched

1202
01:00:25.039 --> 01:00:26.000
onto me in this.

1203
01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:31.079
So you were able to heal with your hands, you said, yeah,

1204
01:00:31.599 --> 01:00:34.719
can you provide an example of what that what that means?

1205
01:00:35.119 --> 01:00:39.920
Well, like my mother he was hit a coma uh,

1206
01:00:40.199 --> 01:00:43.480
a diabetic coma from like you know, just going hard

1207
01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:45.679
and you know, not like taking care of herself. She

1208
01:00:45.719 --> 01:00:48.519
was diabetic to drink. And so basically she was on

1209
01:00:48.519 --> 01:00:52.239
her deathbed and a coma. And I'm her only son,

1210
01:00:52.480 --> 01:00:54.840
and so my whole family was there and they called

1211
01:00:54.880 --> 01:00:56.280
me and they told me to come down there. And

1212
01:00:56.320 --> 01:00:58.559
I went down there and my mom was non responsive,

1213
01:00:58.679 --> 01:01:01.760
like basically just living through machine. And I put my

1214
01:01:01.840 --> 01:01:04.280
hand on her head and I closed my eyes and

1215
01:01:04.320 --> 01:01:07.639
I like went away into this like force thing and

1216
01:01:07.800 --> 01:01:10.199
like where I just like I was like a warrior

1217
01:01:10.239 --> 01:01:11.199
traveling through her body.

1218
01:01:11.280 --> 01:01:13.920
Kind of thing big for society will be right back

1219
01:01:13.960 --> 01:01:15.000
after these messages.

1220
01:01:31.000 --> 01:01:32.960
It's it's hard to explain. It's like I turned it

1221
01:01:33.000 --> 01:01:36.280
into a force, not like a person, but a power.

1222
01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:39.559
And my hand got so hot that I couldn't even

1223
01:01:39.639 --> 01:01:40.760
leave it on her head anymore, and I had to

1224
01:01:40.760 --> 01:01:42.400
pull it off with there. And when I pulled it off,

1225
01:01:42.480 --> 01:01:44.599
she smiled and they were able to take her off

1226
01:01:44.639 --> 01:01:48.639
the machine and she was she lived, but like it's

1227
01:01:48.679 --> 01:01:51.320
something like that. Yeah, And my grandmother when she was

1228
01:01:51.400 --> 01:01:54.079
dying of cancer, I would she had a piningreased cancer

1229
01:01:54.119 --> 01:01:56.480
and she had a surgery and it didn't work right

1230
01:01:56.559 --> 01:01:58.800
and all this, And I would put my hands on

1231
01:01:58.800 --> 01:02:01.880
her stomach every night, and when I started doing that,

1232
01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:05.079
her stomach would make like these god awful demon noises

1233
01:02:05.119 --> 01:02:09.480
like and she I do that for half hour or so,

1234
01:02:09.760 --> 01:02:11.639
and she would say, oh my gosh, I feel so

1235
01:02:11.679 --> 01:02:14.960
much better, And like I didn't do it for the

1236
01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:16.559
It got to the point where I would do it

1237
01:02:16.559 --> 01:02:18.559
every night and I got it was getting exhausted from it,

1238
01:02:18.599 --> 01:02:20.679
and like I didn't do it for two nights and

1239
01:02:20.719 --> 01:02:25.039
then she died the third night. But I mean, it's

1240
01:02:25.039 --> 01:02:27.199
just things like that's the kind of in My Grandma

1241
01:02:27.199 --> 01:02:28.719
would always tell me that I was a healer. I

1242
01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:32.960
just thought she was nuts, But I learned now after

1243
01:02:33.039 --> 01:02:35.199
that she's gone that you know, maybe she knew a

1244
01:02:35.239 --> 01:02:37.920
lot more. She's very spiritual Native American.

1245
01:02:37.760 --> 01:02:44.639
Like, okay, so you have Native American heritage. Yeah, okay, interesting.

1246
01:02:44.840 --> 01:02:47.920
Yeah, So yeah, I mean, and so that's the kind

1247
01:02:47.960 --> 01:02:49.320
of the way I am when I'm out in the

1248
01:02:49.360 --> 01:02:52.880
woods is like I, you know, treat everything like in

1249
01:02:52.920 --> 01:02:55.679
a way where I'm like native about it. You know, Yeah,

1250
01:02:56.079 --> 01:03:00.360
don't do unnecessary only garbage, don't do unnecessary damaged don't like,

1251
01:03:01.280 --> 01:03:03.679
don't do anything that you wouldn't want done to you

1252
01:03:03.840 --> 01:03:05.320
or your property.

1253
01:03:05.400 --> 01:03:09.480
I guess you also mentioned that you have a way

1254
01:03:09.480 --> 01:03:12.079
of sensing things about people. Can you go into that

1255
01:03:12.199 --> 01:03:12.599
as well.

1256
01:03:13.800 --> 01:03:17.440
Yeah, Like, I don't know, it just uh it's one

1257
01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:19.880
of those things where like someone I can tell I

1258
01:03:19.880 --> 01:03:22.079
can just like read somebody, look at somebody, and I

1259
01:03:22.079 --> 01:03:25.320
could see by their you know, why they're the way

1260
01:03:25.320 --> 01:03:28.119
they are there, they way they present themselves, the way

1261
01:03:28.119 --> 01:03:31.519
they talk or act that you know that they're hurting somewhere,

1262
01:03:31.559 --> 01:03:33.960
And like I can just watch them and observe for

1263
01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:36.400
a few and I could tell if they're have a

1264
01:03:36.440 --> 01:03:39.000
back pain or if they're like if they're hurting from

1265
01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:41.159
inside somewhere because of the way they move. I don't know.

1266
01:03:41.199 --> 01:03:44.519
It's like this weird sense that I have that uh

1267
01:03:44.920 --> 01:03:48.400
kind of it's really it's hard to like put into words,

1268
01:03:48.920 --> 01:03:51.480
but I can like put then out like, you know,

1269
01:03:51.480 --> 01:03:52.920
if it's not too weird. I can go up to

1270
01:03:52.960 --> 01:03:54.800
them and like just put my hand somewhere on them,

1271
01:03:55.000 --> 01:03:57.360
like and feel their body and I could feel where

1272
01:03:57.400 --> 01:03:59.480
the pain where they're hurting, and I could press on

1273
01:03:59.519 --> 01:04:01.199
it and like like, WHOA, how did you know that.

1274
01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:03.840
It's like, I don't really know how I know that.

1275
01:04:03.960 --> 01:04:05.280
Have you done that to strangers?

1276
01:04:06.599 --> 01:04:07.119
Oh? Yeah?

1277
01:04:07.320 --> 01:04:07.639
Really?

1278
01:04:08.199 --> 01:04:09.280
Yeah?

1279
01:04:09.360 --> 01:04:09.960
Oh wow?

1280
01:04:11.559 --> 01:04:13.599
Yeah, I mean I blow my I blow my mind

1281
01:04:13.639 --> 01:04:15.920
a lot, like with things that I just know, and

1282
01:04:15.960 --> 01:04:18.360
I don't know how how I know it. I mean,

1283
01:04:18.400 --> 01:04:20.119
I don't want to like sound like I'm like bragging

1284
01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:22.760
or anything, because it's just that's just the way it is.

1285
01:04:22.800 --> 01:04:24.119
I don't understand it either.

1286
01:04:24.440 --> 01:04:29.400
It's very how different cultures and different religions have different

1287
01:04:29.400 --> 01:04:33.239
ways of saying that. I think, you know, like a

1288
01:04:33.360 --> 01:04:40.800
different gifts or yeh, you know certain religions Christianity would

1289
01:04:40.800 --> 01:04:44.280
be like gift of the Holy Spirit, or if you're

1290
01:04:44.320 --> 01:04:46.840
not that it would be called something completely different, you know.

1291
01:04:46.920 --> 01:04:51.199
And it's just it's a very interesting thing that I've

1292
01:04:51.239 --> 01:04:51.960
I've noticed.

1293
01:04:53.159 --> 01:04:56.920
I do believe everybody has has that. I just don't

1294
01:04:56.960 --> 01:05:00.760
think that people tapp into it or know how to

1295
01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:03.039
or even think about having it to be able to

1296
01:05:03.039 --> 01:05:06.760
tap into it. It's like it's a it's a very

1297
01:05:06.880 --> 01:05:09.480
it's a having an open mind is so important I've

1298
01:05:09.480 --> 01:05:14.239
found to you know, to get anywhere besides being standard.

1299
01:05:14.639 --> 01:05:20.239
I guess right, no, it makes sense. Yeah, and you know,

1300
01:05:20.280 --> 01:05:22.480
that if you don't have an open mind, I don't

1301
01:05:22.480 --> 01:05:25.320
think you're going to experience any of this stuff. And

1302
01:05:25.360 --> 01:05:32.039
I've actually seen where a certain area around Oakridge, certain

1303
01:05:32.039 --> 01:05:35.679
people were there and nothing happened, and right after the

1304
01:05:35.719 --> 01:05:43.239
person left, that's when some really weird communicating happened between

1305
01:05:43.239 --> 01:05:46.679
a certain individual and what we think was a big

1306
01:05:46.719 --> 01:05:48.559
foot in the tree line, and it was just it

1307
01:05:48.599 --> 01:05:50.440
was the craziest thing I've ever seen. It was wild.

1308
01:05:51.360 --> 01:05:53.599
So I think that definitely has to do with have

1309
01:05:53.679 --> 01:05:55.559
you ever have you ever experienced that where there's like

1310
01:05:55.920 --> 01:05:59.360
a mimic sound, a mimic bird sound, and any communication

1311
01:05:59.440 --> 01:06:02.239
that goes back and forth. Can you share, Oh, yeah.

1312
01:06:02.039 --> 01:06:06.039
I've heard, Yeah, I've heard, uh, like weird bird call.

1313
01:06:06.119 --> 01:06:09.599
They'll they'll mix bird calls together, like they'll mix actual

1314
01:06:09.599 --> 01:06:12.840
bird calls, but they'll put them, they'll like do a

1315
01:06:12.920 --> 01:06:15.360
remix of them and make them their own. Like they'll

1316
01:06:15.400 --> 01:06:17.920
mix like three or four bird calls into one call,

1317
01:06:18.800 --> 01:06:21.280
and so they'll make it's like its own call, but

1318
01:06:21.320 --> 01:06:23.840
it's it's actual birds that exist. So that you know,

1319
01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:25.719
people can like hear a little bit and they're like, oh,

1320
01:06:25.719 --> 01:06:27.320
it's just a bird because I know that call from

1321
01:06:27.360 --> 01:06:30.960
this bird that but they do that and then like uh,

1322
01:06:31.239 --> 01:06:35.239
there we've heard like uh argument sound like you know,

1323
01:06:35.440 --> 01:06:39.519
the tones of people arguing, like you know, but you

1324
01:06:39.559 --> 01:06:43.559
can't ever hear any words. You just hear tones, humbling.

1325
01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:46.400
It's like people have talked a lot about it. Yeah,

1326
01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:50.519
and it's like it's it's really weird because it's there's

1327
01:06:50.599 --> 01:06:54.400
no words, Like you can't even hear words. It's like

1328
01:06:54.400 --> 01:06:56.840
like they grunt with attitude at each other or like

1329
01:06:57.039 --> 01:06:59.559
mumble at it at with attitude. And then I've heard

1330
01:06:59.639 --> 01:07:01.480
kids like we were can't. Me and my buddy Ryan

1331
01:07:01.480 --> 01:07:04.800
were camping out one night and this landing that was

1332
01:07:05.119 --> 01:07:07.400
cleared all the way around it, but each the down

1333
01:07:07.440 --> 01:07:10.000
below us on all sides except for the roadside was

1334
01:07:10.039 --> 01:07:12.920
like woods. And that night was scary because we had

1335
01:07:12.920 --> 01:07:14.679
a fire when we had his car. We put a

1336
01:07:14.760 --> 01:07:18.119
tarp around the car and then to this big stick

1337
01:07:18.239 --> 01:07:21.800
like logs we had like a barrier, and all night long,

1338
01:07:22.320 --> 01:07:24.760
like rocks would bounce off the tent and the herege

1339
01:07:24.760 --> 01:07:26.880
little feet running by and like kids playing down the

1340
01:07:26.960 --> 01:07:29.199
hill like it was like a playground. And then that's

1341
01:07:29.239 --> 01:07:31.440
where we hear the argument like tones, and it was

1342
01:07:31.480 --> 01:07:34.239
like that night was scary, Like I put earplugs in

1343
01:07:34.239 --> 01:07:36.719
at one point and it was like just like had

1344
01:07:36.760 --> 01:07:38.679
my ear hands over my ears, just trying to get

1345
01:07:38.679 --> 01:07:40.199
to sleep so I can get through it. And like

1346
01:07:40.639 --> 01:07:42.199
my buddy would grab me and he goes, dude, did

1347
01:07:42.239 --> 01:07:45.159
you hear that? I'm like no, So I'd have to

1348
01:07:45.320 --> 01:07:47.480
take my earplugs out and I'd listen and I'd be like, man,

1349
01:07:47.519 --> 01:07:50.360
this is this is crazy. Like it was. It got

1350
01:07:50.400 --> 01:07:54.119
really scary that night, Like they were pushing hard that night.

1351
01:07:54.239 --> 01:07:54.960
Where did that happen?

1352
01:07:55.039 --> 01:07:58.400
That was up Fall Creek. That's like right, that's a

1353
01:07:58.400 --> 01:07:59.880
fall creek. Is right out of a little if you

1354
01:08:00.039 --> 01:08:01.559
go into the load and go up in the woods,

1355
01:08:01.559 --> 01:08:03.719
it's Fall Creek, Little Fall Creek, big Ball Creek. Yeah.

1356
01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:06.880
I was just gonna say. In his driveway there's xes

1357
01:08:06.920 --> 01:08:07.960
and bigfoot symbols too.

1358
01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:10.360
It's funny, no way, oh boy.

1359
01:08:10.480 --> 01:08:13.119
Oh yeah. I've been sitting there with him, and I've

1360
01:08:13.159 --> 01:08:15.000
been sitting with my dad in his car facing the

1361
01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:17.960
woods and we were listening to music and right in

1362
01:08:18.039 --> 01:08:21.159
front of us, across the driveway, I've seen bigfoots walking

1363
01:08:21.159 --> 01:08:23.840
through the bushes and I'm like, look right there, and

1364
01:08:23.880 --> 01:08:27.039
he he couldn't catch it. But it was like you

1365
01:08:27.079 --> 01:08:29.039
know when they walk when they're cloaked, it's like the

1366
01:08:29.079 --> 01:08:31.640
winds blowing the bushes, but only in one spot, and

1367
01:08:31.680 --> 01:08:34.359
then that spot will travel through the woods, so it's

1368
01:08:34.359 --> 01:08:37.159
like the wind's blowing only in one spot. Yeah, and

1369
01:08:37.520 --> 01:08:39.199
that's what it was. And I was like, man, right,

1370
01:08:39.239 --> 01:08:42.039
there was bigfoot like cloaks walking right in front of us.

1371
01:08:42.439 --> 01:08:46.000
Do you ever see anything that looks like a mirage

1372
01:08:46.159 --> 01:08:48.479
or like the predator back in the eight you know

1373
01:08:48.520 --> 01:08:50.520
what I'm talking about? Does that or is it just

1374
01:08:50.520 --> 01:08:51.760
like you see bushes moving?

1375
01:08:53.239 --> 01:08:56.159
I well, no, I see I've seen that. Yeah, and

1376
01:08:56.239 --> 01:08:59.680
it's like almost like a wiggle and like like like

1377
01:08:59.760 --> 01:09:04.680
a the airs wiggly like uh kind of distorted. Seen that.

1378
01:09:04.840 --> 01:09:07.960
And I noticed that with this white one that I've

1379
01:09:08.039 --> 01:09:09.640
had other people, because a lot of people get a

1380
01:09:09.640 --> 01:09:11.039
hold of me when they have a sighting out here,

1381
01:09:11.079 --> 01:09:13.800
they'll find they'll they'll hunt me down and be like, hey, man,

1382
01:09:13.840 --> 01:09:15.399
I just wanted to tell you this spot. I had

1383
01:09:15.439 --> 01:09:17.640
it a sighting and it was crazy. And so I'll

1384
01:09:17.640 --> 01:09:19.720
go check that spot out, and it's usually a spot

1385
01:09:19.720 --> 01:09:21.760
I already know, and I've had my own encounters there.

1386
01:09:21.760 --> 01:09:25.199
But I noticed that the white one. I believe there's

1387
01:09:25.239 --> 01:09:27.079
two now because of the one had a baby, so

1388
01:09:27.119 --> 01:09:30.000
it's probably, you know, getting older now. But they can

1389
01:09:30.079 --> 01:09:34.199
stand there in the open and there the whiteness of

1390
01:09:34.239 --> 01:09:37.239
their fur just looks like a sun, like a sun

1391
01:09:37.359 --> 01:09:39.479
spot that's bright. I mean, it's hard to explain. It's

1392
01:09:39.520 --> 01:09:42.159
like you look right past it because it just looks

1393
01:09:42.199 --> 01:09:44.760
like a bright spot that the sun's like shining. And

1394
01:09:45.600 --> 01:09:47.760
but they are standing in the open and their hair

1395
01:09:47.800 --> 01:09:49.439
is so white that it kind of like is just

1396
01:09:49.479 --> 01:09:50.399
like they looked like light.

1397
01:09:51.640 --> 01:09:52.359
That's interesting.

1398
01:09:53.600 --> 01:09:56.359
Yeah, And it's like I've had one other person who

1399
01:09:56.359 --> 01:09:59.199
tell me that they were camping. They were homeless for

1400
01:09:59.199 --> 01:10:01.920
a little while and they were camping up Fall Creek

1401
01:10:01.960 --> 01:10:04.039
and they saw a white one all the time and

1402
01:10:04.039 --> 01:10:05.600
it would stand up way up on this hill and

1403
01:10:05.640 --> 01:10:07.600
it was like this white dot and it would just

1404
01:10:07.600 --> 01:10:12.239
stare at him for the longest time. And yeah, you guys,

1405
01:10:12.239 --> 01:10:13.840
see that video. I got that white one. It's got

1406
01:10:13.840 --> 01:10:16.039
a little baby in the hand. It's like, it's amazing.

1407
01:10:16.279 --> 01:10:17.760
That's one of the High eight videos.

1408
01:10:18.880 --> 01:10:23.000
Yeah, wow, yeah, you gotta get.

1409
01:10:23.479 --> 01:10:27.800
On the High eight videos. When does it also have

1410
01:10:27.840 --> 01:10:32.960
footage of like the mirage or like yes, actually yeah, wow,

1411
01:10:33.039 --> 01:10:34.560
oh man, you've got something.

1412
01:10:34.439 --> 01:10:38.319
You know. Another thing, Another thing is when I sometimes

1413
01:10:38.319 --> 01:10:40.319
when i'd leave my I'd leave that high eight camera

1414
01:10:40.399 --> 01:10:42.640
on a tripod filming in the woods, and I'd just

1415
01:10:42.680 --> 01:10:44.640
like go do the rest of my hike and leave

1416
01:10:44.680 --> 01:10:47.439
it and then I come back to it. A couple

1417
01:10:47.479 --> 01:10:50.479
of times when i'd leave that camera, about five minutes

1418
01:10:50.520 --> 01:10:53.720
after i'd be gone, it would get staticky, like through

1419
01:10:53.720 --> 01:10:55.600
the l like it would get so staticky that you

1420
01:10:55.600 --> 01:10:57.479
couldn't even see what was going on. It was almost

1421
01:10:57.479 --> 01:11:00.680
like the camera was trying to like shut off, but

1422
01:11:00.720 --> 01:11:03.640
then like it would just like stop out of nowhere,

1423
01:11:03.840 --> 01:11:05.840
and then a couple minutes later I would come back.

1424
01:11:06.600 --> 01:11:09.079
And so I do believe I have one also a

1425
01:11:09.159 --> 01:11:12.199
video of my night vision of one staring at me,

1426
01:11:12.720 --> 01:11:15.680
and it was partially cloaked, but I watched it for

1427
01:11:15.720 --> 01:11:17.560
like fifteen minutes with my night vison. I don't think

1428
01:11:17.560 --> 01:11:20.000
he knew I could see him or something, but he

1429
01:11:20.079 --> 01:11:22.199
was staring right at me, and his eyes changed shape,

1430
01:11:22.239 --> 01:11:24.399
like they went from being like round eyes to like

1431
01:11:24.439 --> 01:11:28.920
really like Chinese like slanted eyes, And I think, yeah,

1432
01:11:28.960 --> 01:11:31.000
and I think he was trying to like do something

1433
01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:34.119
to my the things I was looking through, because the

1434
01:11:34.159 --> 01:11:36.159
way that they changed was like he was like like

1435
01:11:36.319 --> 01:11:38.560
using energy or something to try to like screw with

1436
01:11:38.640 --> 01:11:42.000
my night vision. Wow. But he Yeah, thats a good

1437
01:11:42.279 --> 01:11:45.520
that's a good video. It's pretty intense. It was like

1438
01:11:45.920 --> 01:11:48.079
I just randomly like took my night vision out started

1439
01:11:48.079 --> 01:11:50.760
looking up this hill and there was standing there watching me.

1440
01:11:51.960 --> 01:11:54.399
Have you ever heard of a place called Baboon Creek?

1441
01:11:57.600 --> 01:11:59.760
Yeah, that's uh is that here?

1442
01:12:00.600 --> 01:12:05.640
Yeah, it's further east on fifty eight, I believe, past Oakridge.

1443
01:12:05.680 --> 01:12:09.439
I was just curious. It's just it just to have

1444
01:12:09.479 --> 01:12:11.239
a lot of stuff go down there. Or a place

1445
01:12:11.279 --> 01:12:13.000
called Spirit Lake. Have you heard of that before?

1446
01:12:14.439 --> 01:12:17.760
Spirit Lake? The Yeah, I think the only Spirit Lake

1447
01:12:17.800 --> 01:12:20.000
I know of those like by not San Helen's.

1448
01:12:20.479 --> 01:12:23.560
There's one over by Waldo Lake Wilderness.

1449
01:12:24.960 --> 01:12:25.159
Yeah.

1450
01:12:25.479 --> 01:12:28.000
Supposedly pretty weird, So keep your ears out if you

1451
01:12:28.039 --> 01:12:29.920
ever hear anything about that. I would love to hear

1452
01:12:29.920 --> 01:12:33.640
about it. Supposedly there's weird stuff every night, all the

1453
01:12:33.720 --> 01:12:36.239
wood that's floating in it. We'll go to the center

1454
01:12:36.359 --> 01:12:39.600
and make a circle and then rotate around in a circle.

1455
01:12:40.520 --> 01:12:43.600
And there's a few encounters that I've taken from that

1456
01:12:43.680 --> 01:12:47.039
area as well, that specific lake where people will get

1457
01:12:47.239 --> 01:12:51.600
ran off by bigfoot from that area. You'd mentioned also

1458
01:12:51.960 --> 01:12:54.560
before we started recording that you actually had just heard

1459
01:12:54.560 --> 01:12:58.520
the Near Oregon episode, which is I think my one

1460
01:12:58.520 --> 01:13:00.680
of my most listened to episode, so it's on YouTube,

1461
01:13:00.720 --> 01:13:02.000
and you actually went up to Renier.

1462
01:13:03.279 --> 01:13:07.000
Yeah. I went there yesterday and it was yeah, go ahead.

1463
01:13:08.399 --> 01:13:11.119
I just when I got there. I went up. I

1464
01:13:11.159 --> 01:13:13.840
because I remember him talking about New York City Road

1465
01:13:13.880 --> 01:13:15.960
and I was like, man, in that episode, just like

1466
01:13:17.039 --> 01:13:19.319
he was talking about how they were so like just

1467
01:13:19.520 --> 01:13:21.600
brave and how they would just like come out and

1468
01:13:21.640 --> 01:13:24.399
like not be afraid of people. And then I got

1469
01:13:24.439 --> 01:13:26.680
to remember that it was like a long time ago.

1470
01:13:26.800 --> 01:13:30.079
But I went there and I went to this power

1471
01:13:30.119 --> 01:13:32.640
line road and uh. I stopped at the first power

1472
01:13:32.680 --> 01:13:34.520
line road that I found, and I got out and

1473
01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:37.439
I was like, hey, I Uh, I just came to

1474
01:13:37.439 --> 01:13:40.039
say hi. I heard my friend told me that you

1475
01:13:40.039 --> 01:13:42.880
guys were here, and I just wanted to say hi.

1476
01:13:43.039 --> 01:13:45.920
And uh as soon as I said that, snap, big

1477
01:13:45.920 --> 01:13:48.960
old branch broke. I'm like yeah, but of course, you know,

1478
01:13:49.239 --> 01:13:53.439
I'm by myself with my little dog. So if I

1479
01:13:53.479 --> 01:13:56.159
feel limited when about myself, it's hard to for me

1480
01:13:56.279 --> 01:14:00.239
to just like go very far because my mind. I

1481
01:14:00.319 --> 01:14:02.119
watched a lot of scary movies with my dad when

1482
01:14:02.119 --> 01:14:05.600
I was younger, so my imagination can run in some places,

1483
01:14:06.000 --> 01:14:10.039
and that's what limits me. I haven't got as far

1484
01:14:10.079 --> 01:14:11.880
as I want to because of that fear. Like I

1485
01:14:11.920 --> 01:14:15.359
get scared, like pretty bad. So I walked up the

1486
01:14:15.479 --> 01:14:19.720
road a little ways and I I could feel like

1487
01:14:19.800 --> 01:14:21.680
I could see things moving on the tree line and

1488
01:14:21.720 --> 01:14:24.119
I could feel it like hard sticks for breaking and stuff,

1489
01:14:24.159 --> 01:14:27.039
and so I knew that they were there. And then

1490
01:14:27.399 --> 01:14:30.640
I had only had my night vision, but it records

1491
01:14:30.640 --> 01:14:32.560
in the daytime too. It's just kind of purple looking.

1492
01:14:33.520 --> 01:14:36.439
And I had it sitting on my dash and one

1493
01:14:36.439 --> 01:14:38.520
of the points that you can see from the tree

1494
01:14:38.600 --> 01:14:42.760
line across the grass, the grass is like three feet high.

1495
01:14:43.000 --> 01:14:46.520
You can see the grass move like something like booked

1496
01:14:46.520 --> 01:14:48.720
it through like on its belly or something through the

1497
01:14:48.760 --> 01:14:51.520
grass like he was talking about they did. So I

1498
01:14:51.520 --> 01:14:53.600
thought that was pretty cool too. I got that on video.

1499
01:14:53.760 --> 01:14:55.479
Across the road for me there was you could hear

1500
01:14:55.520 --> 01:14:58.319
stuff walking and like the more I was like using

1501
01:14:58.359 --> 01:15:01.239
my camera to like, look, the more it would like

1502
01:15:01.920 --> 01:15:04.760
they don't light cameras very much, I don't think, but

1503
01:15:04.800 --> 01:15:07.840
the more agitated it started feeling, and then the steps

1504
01:15:07.840 --> 01:15:10.680
should get heavier. And so I was like, all right,

1505
01:15:10.680 --> 01:15:12.680
well I'm gonna I'm gonna go down the road now.

1506
01:15:12.720 --> 01:15:14.279
And I went down to the other power line road.

1507
01:15:14.279 --> 01:15:17.000
And this power line road is massive and it goes

1508
01:15:17.039 --> 01:15:20.199
for like as far as your eye can see. But

1509
01:15:20.279 --> 01:15:23.199
it says it's a controlled area and there's a sign

1510
01:15:23.239 --> 01:15:27.000
on it says control area and don't enter. And I'm like, why,

1511
01:15:27.119 --> 01:15:30.119
why what's controlled? I mean, I've never seen any power

1512
01:15:30.119 --> 01:15:32.279
line roads that have a sign that says controlled area,

1513
01:15:32.359 --> 01:15:35.880
Like they're all open, you can go anywhere on them.

1514
01:15:35.960 --> 01:15:37.800
We have power line roads here and they don't say that,

1515
01:15:40.159 --> 01:15:41.920
but I think that, Like he was saying that the

1516
01:15:41.920 --> 01:15:45.319
federal government bought his dad's property, so obviously there's they

1517
01:15:45.359 --> 01:15:47.760
know stuff absolutely.

1518
01:15:47.760 --> 01:15:50.279
And you said you had kind of seen what you

1519
01:15:50.319 --> 01:15:51.960
think might be tracks in the area too.

1520
01:15:53.079 --> 01:15:56.279
Yeah, there's tracks on this clearing I went to. When

1521
01:15:56.279 --> 01:15:58.479
I got there, I got out of the car and

1522
01:15:58.560 --> 01:16:02.119
I heard this big like there's no houses like right

1523
01:16:02.159 --> 01:16:05.119
in that area. It's just the open forest clearing area

1524
01:16:05.199 --> 01:16:10.279
and I heard I'm like nice and so like right

1525
01:16:10.319 --> 01:16:12.359
then I knew that they were there, and I started walking.

1526
01:16:12.399 --> 01:16:14.399
I walked out. All the bushes and grass are like

1527
01:16:14.439 --> 01:16:17.640
you know, chest high there. But I found this point

1528
01:16:17.640 --> 01:16:20.039
where there's a big stump. Then I climbed up on

1529
01:16:20.079 --> 01:16:22.680
it and I looked out over and I started looking

1530
01:16:22.680 --> 01:16:25.159
down in the mud and there's like partial prints all over,

1531
01:16:25.359 --> 01:16:27.119
and then there's like some folones in the bark desk,

1532
01:16:27.159 --> 01:16:29.640
but you can't you can see the tracks, you can't

1533
01:16:29.640 --> 01:16:31.359
define the toes. And that's what I kind of look for,

1534
01:16:31.520 --> 01:16:35.039
and I look for tracks as the toes because some

1535
01:16:35.079 --> 01:16:37.119
of the tracks I've taken pictures of are the most

1536
01:16:37.159 --> 01:16:39.439
beautiful footprints you've ever seen in your life, Like you

1537
01:16:39.439 --> 01:16:41.520
can tell which ones are female, which ones are male?

1538
01:16:42.439 --> 01:16:45.239
Big for society, who will be right back after these messages.

1539
01:17:01.199 --> 01:17:02.840
How do you tell the difference between a male and

1540
01:17:02.840 --> 01:17:04.319
a female through the track?

1541
01:17:04.520 --> 01:17:07.640
Well, I think what I assume is the female feet

1542
01:17:07.760 --> 01:17:10.520
have more of a curve. They're kind of like you know,

1543
01:17:10.600 --> 01:17:12.640
like they curve, and a male's footprint is just like

1544
01:17:12.680 --> 01:17:16.880
this square, blocky like big footprint. It's just like a stamp.

1545
01:17:16.880 --> 01:17:18.960
And then the women's are kind of more curved. You

1546
01:17:19.000 --> 01:17:21.079
know how women's feet kind of curved, is, you know,

1547
01:17:21.199 --> 01:17:23.279
have a little bit of a curve to them. I

1548
01:17:23.319 --> 01:17:26.600
guess it's like, yeah, you just see the feminineness in

1549
01:17:26.680 --> 01:17:28.600
the track. I guess. I don't know, maybe that's just

1550
01:17:28.640 --> 01:17:29.479
what I noticed.

1551
01:17:29.520 --> 01:17:34.760
But yeah, I mean, did you ever get a measurement

1552
01:17:34.840 --> 01:17:37.880
of how long the tracks that you found usually are?

1553
01:17:39.159 --> 01:17:41.359
No? I never actually have never measured the track and

1554
01:17:41.399 --> 01:17:42.640
I've never done it casting either.

1555
01:17:43.279 --> 01:17:45.119
Yeah, no problem, but I used to.

1556
01:17:45.600 --> 01:17:47.880
I used to put flour in the back of my

1557
01:17:48.000 --> 01:17:50.600
yard flower down so they'd step in it. And I

1558
01:17:50.640 --> 01:17:52.479
got a bunch of footprints doing that.

1559
01:17:52.680 --> 01:17:57.319
Oh wow. Yeah, to kind of go way back, because

1560
01:17:57.359 --> 01:18:00.239
you mentioned that at points you have put food food

1561
01:18:00.359 --> 01:18:06.000
out at certain places. Did you ever put out a banana?

1562
01:18:06.319 --> 01:18:08.439
And if so, what was the response to that.

1563
01:18:09.880 --> 01:18:11.720
I did. I put out a banana and it never

1564
01:18:11.800 --> 01:18:16.199
got touched, Okay, but I put out blueberries. I would

1565
01:18:16.239 --> 01:18:18.760
take like all they would give me, like a box

1566
01:18:18.880 --> 01:18:20.319
of fruit that they was going to go bad, that

1567
01:18:20.359 --> 01:18:22.680
they couldn't they couldn't give away. So I mean I

1568
01:18:22.720 --> 01:18:24.600
would hike up there with like close two hundred pounds

1569
01:18:24.600 --> 01:18:27.880
of food, like seriously in the backpack. It was ridiculous. Wow,

1570
01:18:28.239 --> 01:18:31.319
And it would always take them three days to touch it.

1571
01:18:32.279 --> 01:18:34.319
But the peanut butter, like, the peanut butter was a hit,

1572
01:18:34.359 --> 01:18:36.680
and like that stuff was always gone, Like the jar

1573
01:18:36.840 --> 01:18:38.520
was always cleaned out with a steak and the steak

1574
01:18:38.560 --> 01:18:41.920
was always put back right where I said it at

1575
01:18:41.920 --> 01:18:44.359
the beginning. And I did that like three or four times.

1576
01:18:44.359 --> 01:18:45.960
I even took my mom with me one time, and

1577
01:18:46.199 --> 01:18:47.920
she's the one that found that peanut butter jar at

1578
01:18:47.920 --> 01:18:50.720
that time, and it was cleaned out and I took

1579
01:18:50.760 --> 01:18:52.760
pictures of it and everything was I was blown away

1580
01:18:52.760 --> 01:18:55.239
by that. I was like, wow, it was right there.

1581
01:18:55.279 --> 01:18:57.880
You know, you get more of a solid, concrete like

1582
01:18:58.000 --> 01:19:02.119
knowledge that it's not a deer or like a raccoon

1583
01:19:02.199 --> 01:19:05.119
or something, because nothing, nothing else would be able to

1584
01:19:05.159 --> 01:19:05.640
do that.

1585
01:19:06.359 --> 01:19:11.600
Absolutely, man, Kyle, I knew. I knew when you came

1586
01:19:11.640 --> 01:19:14.640
over that we were going to have a really intense

1587
01:19:14.720 --> 01:19:20.239
conversation one day. And yeah, this was excited, A good,

1588
01:19:20.439 --> 01:19:21.880
good conversation, dude.

1589
01:19:22.479 --> 01:19:26.399
I plan on going to that spot the park. I

1590
01:19:26.439 --> 01:19:29.239
plan on going to that like maybe tomorrow.

1591
01:19:29.880 --> 01:19:31.520
Oh cool, yeah, yeah.

1592
01:19:32.479 --> 01:19:35.920
So I will definitely fill you in on how that goes, because.

1593
01:19:35.720 --> 01:19:39.359
I I'm glad that there's people talking about them not

1594
01:19:39.439 --> 01:19:43.239
just being eight feet tall, because I literally the eight

1595
01:19:43.279 --> 01:19:46.800
foot tall thing is like kind of you know, a comment.

1596
01:19:46.800 --> 01:19:50.199
But the ones that I see are eleven, twelve, fifteen,

1597
01:19:50.319 --> 01:19:52.680
sixteen feet tall. I mean, they're they're freaking I don't

1598
01:19:52.680 --> 01:19:56.159
know if it's even possible in a way, but it

1599
01:19:56.199 --> 01:19:58.840
seems like they kind of almost can change sizes. I

1600
01:19:58.880 --> 01:20:02.279
don't know why, but it seems like they like they

1601
01:20:02.359 --> 01:20:05.039
can like form into each other and like you'll see

1602
01:20:05.039 --> 01:20:07.720
a pile of faces and then like it's so weird

1603
01:20:07.840 --> 01:20:10.399
and I don't I don't know enough about it to

1604
01:20:10.439 --> 01:20:13.159
be able to like be certain about it, but I've

1605
01:20:13.199 --> 01:20:15.840
seen so many times I've seen like where they look

1606
01:20:15.920 --> 01:20:18.800
like they've kind of change size and like change like

1607
01:20:19.520 --> 01:20:25.800
almost like like go into each other and like become one. Wow,

1608
01:20:26.359 --> 01:20:28.479
And that makes me think of like maybe there's just

1609
01:20:28.520 --> 01:20:31.439
different kinds of them that you know, some of them

1610
01:20:31.439 --> 01:20:33.479
can do that some of them can't. Because I know

1611
01:20:33.520 --> 01:20:36.279
a lot of podcasts that you've done, no one ever

1612
01:20:36.319 --> 01:20:40.199
talks about. Some people do talk about the more paranormal

1613
01:20:40.239 --> 01:20:43.680
side of it, but most people it's a physical you

1614
01:20:43.720 --> 01:20:46.920
know thing, and that's basically what it is to them.

1615
01:20:47.000 --> 01:20:51.239
And and I'm sure that that's that there is that

1616
01:20:51.359 --> 01:20:52.920
kind of I don't know, It's just I wonder if

1617
01:20:52.920 --> 01:20:56.119
there is different kinds, is all I've I've been wondering lately.

1618
01:20:56.279 --> 01:21:01.960
Absolutely, man, How can how can people reach out to you?

1619
01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:04.960
It sounds like if someone reaches out to you, you'll

1620
01:21:04.960 --> 01:21:08.239
talk to them about what they've experienced, as I like

1621
01:21:08.279 --> 01:21:11.079
to do so, but you'll also since you're out there,

1622
01:21:11.119 --> 01:21:11.920
you'll check it out.

1623
01:21:13.319 --> 01:21:15.800
Yeah, and if people want to ever come, you know,

1624
01:21:16.439 --> 01:21:19.600
have me show them what I what I experienced. I

1625
01:21:19.600 --> 01:21:23.319
would be glad to show you know, people, my my

1626
01:21:23.439 --> 01:21:27.439
email is no capital is. It's mixed squatch one, just

1627
01:21:27.600 --> 01:21:33.600
the letter one and then number one. Sorry and yes,

1628
01:21:33.840 --> 01:21:38.239
mixquatch one at gmail dot com. Hopefully you can take

1629
01:21:38.279 --> 01:21:40.520
that part out of there. I didn't mean to say letter.

1630
01:21:41.039 --> 01:21:43.000
Oh, no, you're You're good. I'll actually put it in

1631
01:21:43.039 --> 01:21:45.760
the show notes so people can also look at the

1632
01:21:45.920 --> 01:21:49.439
description or show notes and see the exact email, if

1633
01:21:49.479 --> 01:21:54.359
that's all right. But yeah, Kyle, Kyle McDonald, thank you

1634
01:21:54.399 --> 01:21:56.960
so much for coming on. I have a feeling that

1635
01:21:57.000 --> 01:22:00.359
we maybe we'll be talking again. In the future, but

1636
01:22:00.720 --> 01:22:02.319
thank you so much for coming on man.

1637
01:22:03.439 --> 01:22:05.840
Absolutely thank you, and I'll keep you posting on things.

1638
01:22:08.279 --> 01:22:11.039
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1639
01:22:11.199 --> 01:22:14.680
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1640
01:22:14.720 --> 01:22:18.239
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YouTube with a friend. Also, if you're listening to us

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on a podcast, thank you so much. Make sure that

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you're subscribed, share the show with a friend. Really, it's

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all about sharing the show wherever you can. If you've

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had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following, or know

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someone who has, please reach out to me at Bigfoot

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Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email.

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Here's the list. If you've had any encounters in orgon

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which I'm sure there's probably a few of you out there,

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please feel free to reach out immediately. You can use

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email Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. A special thank

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you to all the big Fort Society, Patreon and YouTube

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channel members. It's your support that helps keep the show

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going and I extremely appreciate it. You want to join

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in the fun, you can join over at Patreon dot com.

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Forward slash the big Foot Society. I'll see you there

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and again, thanks for listening.

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Her and I can get on here, we can tell

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our stories.

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Maybe there's somebody else out there listening that's too afraid

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to tell their story.

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Maybe this will.

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Give them the courage to come out. And that feels

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so bad about it. Who cares what anybody's thinks. I

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know what I saw, I know what's out there. That's

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all I care about.

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Please let people know, Please let them know. If you've

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ever seen one of these things, you need to tell,

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because if you don't, then shame on you, you know,

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shame on you.