Oct. 6, 2024

2 Weeks of LARPing Horror with Sasquatch! (Archives)

Originally aired 11/6/23Randy Hutchings, a seasoned field investigator, shares his incredible Bigfoot encounters from various locations in Tennessee. In this riveting episode, he recounts a shocking sighting during a high fantasy LARPing event in...

Originally aired 11/6/23Randy Hutchings, a seasoned field investigator, shares his incredible Bigfoot encounters from various locations in Tennessee. In this riveting episode, he recounts a shocking sighting during a high fantasy LARPing event in Tennessee, where a seven-foot tall, ruddy-haired creature appeared. Additionally, Randy describes a heart-wrenching encounter with a juvenile Bigfoot that deeply affected him as a parent. These sightings and many more shed light on the mysterious and rich Bigfoot activity in Tennessee's wilderness.Resources:

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All right, Big Fort Society. We've got the privilege of

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talking to mister Randy Hutchings tonight. He is a field

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investigator based out of Tennessee. And how's it going today, Randy?

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It's going good. How are you today?

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Doing good? Up here in central Iowa. It's starting to

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get cold up here though. We're getting down to the

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thirties and the twenties. Fingers crossed that it doesn't get

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too cold this winter, but we're still having a good time.

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How about you guys down there.

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It's getting really chilly this weekend.

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Actually, does it get really cold down in Tennessee.

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It depends because you get the foothills to the Appalachians

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and then you've got the actual appellation and so like

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parts of them, maybe it's as cold as parts of

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Michigan do. But down in the hot some of the hollows,

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some of the basin like around Nashville, not so bad really,

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but it's very mild by comparison.

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Okay, Randy, you're a field investigator that a lot of

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people may not have heard of you before, because, as

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we had talked before the interview, you stay off to

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the side a litt bit. You're not really on the internet

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a lot. You're not out in the spotlight. But I

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was looking into was the wild Man Conference, and I

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noticed your name and I was like, man, that sounds

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that's a name I haven't heard before. And I think

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actually you had contacted me as well on Facebook Messenger.

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I was like, this is really interesting. I had talked

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to this guy and we had a little bit of

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a back and forth. Some things happened, but we finally

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got on. And how did the Wildman Conference go?

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Randy really well for our first year, went smooth. The

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presenters and the guests seem to have had a really

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good time. All the attendance that we got to talk to,

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so they had a really good time. They really loved

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the lineup that we had, but a very eclectic lineup

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from one end of the bigfoot spectrum to the other,

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given a very very broad view overview on the subject.

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But it was awesome.

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I heard great things about it. I talked to a

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few people that actually went and they said it was

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a great time. And of course you had all the

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great guys and gast from down there. You had, I know,

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help and holler guys and Joe and Jesse, and I

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think Martin Grose is there. And you think Martin was

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there all those guys, and I don't want to leave

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anyone out, but it looks like they always have a

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good time. And yeah, you had some solid lineup. So

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I hope is that a thing that's going to happen again,

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you think, Randy.

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We're actually planning the second one right now as we speak.

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Awesome, oh man, that is great. Happened in a interesting

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area that we're going to we'll get in into later

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in the show. Montgomery Montgomery Bell State Park. Correct, yep,

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we'll chat about that a little bit later. But I

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would love to start out by how is it that

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you got into all this this bigfoot action to begin with,

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Randy Beck?

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That have been like May twenty third, nineteen ninety seven,

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my cousin and myself were trekking up to an old

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abandoned rock quarry. It's about three or four miles outside

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of the town I live in, and it's about an

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hour's trick from where you park to actually get it

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to where this old abandoned rock Cory is and there's

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a box canyon there with a big lake, And we

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got up there to this box canyon and had stuck

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our feet in the water, just decided we're just going

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to chill out for a couple hours here on this lake,

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soak up the sun. It's late May, late spring. We

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weren't there more than five, maybe ten minutes the most,

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and something atop one of the bluffs off to our

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right starts vocalizing at us. And the only way I

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can describe the vocalization that was coming off this thing

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was as if you would put a hawl or monkey

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and combined it with a raging bull and a more

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kind of sound. And so we both, my cousin and

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I both look at one another and honestly thinking someone's

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up there just messing with us. We start making the

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sounds back and thinking that maybe a hunter's come off

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the ridge there. He's trying to have a go at

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us for whatever reason. And it goes quiet. It goes

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quite about a minute. We figure whoever it was, they

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had their fun, and right about the time that we're

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about to discount all this, a boulder about a bit

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get run as my torso three hundred pounds at least

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comes flying off of that cliff side. And when I

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say flying, I don't mean as if like I've had

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people tell me or you shouldn't roll off the cliff.

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And it had momentum. It went flying, zooming off this

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cliff a good twenty twenty five feet and splashing down

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in the water right in front of us, which got

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our attention. And the first thing my cousin says to

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me is he looks over at me and his eyes

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are just huge, and he's you'd have to have thumbs

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to do that. And I'm like, yeah, I think he would.

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And we're sitting there perplexed as to what just occurred.

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Maybe a minute, two minutes goes by and the vocalization

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starts back up again. It's more and I have no

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idea what that means, what those vocalizations really mean, but

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the message that it felt like was you need to leave.

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You're not welcome here. So that's all we did. We

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ended up leaving, okay, even though we tricked over over

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an hour to get up there. We left. And having

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grown up here in Tennessee and the sticks, I've been

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in a wildlife my whole life, I've heard everything in

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the woods. I know what animals sound like out in

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the woods. I've never heard this sound before. A lot

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of my relatives are hunters, so me and my cousin

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went to them initially and were just like, what in

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the world could this be? And most of them were

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discounting it. One of them said, oh, it was probably

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a cow that got loose. How did he throw a boulder?

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He said, I don't know how you did that, but

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giving us all these discounted bs explanations, And finally I

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went online and found a vocalization on the BFROL website,

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and I don't remember which vocalization it was, but it

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sounded similar to what we heard, and so I contacted

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the BFRO and they got a researcher to get in

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touch with me, and I told them everything that happened.

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They explained that yet that's classical rock throwing behavior when

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they want you to leave an area. And it was

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through that I got initially invited to be a BFRO

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investigator for a little while. But it was while I

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was doing the thing for the BFRO for about four months,

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I met the Tennessee bigfoot lady, Mary Green. Have you

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ever heard of her, and yeah, Mary Green was working

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at the time for the GC Bureau, which is the

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Gulf Coast Bigfoot Research organization, and it turned out that

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she only lived about forty five minutes up the road

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from me, so she invited me to come up there

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and visit her. Went up there and visit her, and

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she basically was what got me into the bigfoot thing really,

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and she was like, we need more people out there

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doing this. They know about these things, that are willing

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to go out there and be where they know they are.

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And yeah, she got me into the gcbro back in

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nineteen ninety seven, followed nineteen ninety seven, and I've been

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doing it. I did it for them for years. I've

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done it on the side for groups like the Blue

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and Gray. I was part of the founding member of

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the Sasquat's Research Initiative back in the day. So I've

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done research field investigations for several groups here and there's

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along with just a whole bunch just for myself, especially

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just in.

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My Schall encounter happened Randy twenty three, Wow, that's awesome.

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When you went up to chat with Mary Green, any

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interesting things happen when you're up there.

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Just the stories that she had should been there, done

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that by the time I even came along, should been there,

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done that. So hearing all that kind of and it

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was interesting. There was a lot of political stuff between

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all these groups, especially back in those days, and so

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the BFRO didn't like anybody talking to her and she

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didn't like it if you were a member of the BFRO.

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And so it was just a whole bunch of hull

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of balloo yep. Something I've always tried to stay out

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of is all the drama. But she knew her stuff,

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and she told me, she's like, go out in these areas,

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look for this, look for that. And she's like, if

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you find this and that, stay in those areas and

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then start looking for this and looking for that. And

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just like she said, we started going out of the areas.

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One thing we started looking for with seep springs. She

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told us to look for seep springs. Seep springs are

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like where there's springs, it's just the water seeping up

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out of the ground. Oh sure, And she said those

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things are crucial, and the reason being they're there almost

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year round. Seep springs are so even during the worst

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parts of the year. Animals know that stuff's there, they'll come,

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they'll get water from it. They're going to be watching

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for the animals are coming there to get water from it.

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We use that mentality that she actually told us and

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found two of our active areas that we still have

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to this day.

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Wow. So seep spring is one of the big things

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that you look for. Are there any other big things

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that you're looking for when you're you're trying to narrow

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down maybe a new area, or if.

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We're trying to narrow down a new area, it's trying

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to find if there's been any generational activity attributed to

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the area as people for years, has it been going

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back years? Has people have been seeing things? Have people

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been hearing things? One thing we especially down here in

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the South, it looked for haunted forests, like places where

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people say that the woods they are haunted. Why why

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are they haunted? And when you actually start talking to

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these people is why they're haunted. You'll hear these women,

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these dead women screaming in the woods, the ghosts of

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these women screaming, and it's oh, okay, yeah, that's what

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you're hearing, is it?

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So we're in it's brilliant, so that after that then

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you you got into the bigfoot game. Pretty wild, is

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what it sounds like. You were into all sorts of groups.

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You were, you're helping out, you're investigating. Were there any

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other interesting things that you remember over the years maybe

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did you ever get any closer to any of the creatures.

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Or I did have I've had personal sightings my first siding.

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I've had four sightings thus far, all surprisingly, all of

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them within about one hundred and fifty acres of each other. Wow.

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I don't know how to explain that. I have theories,

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and I've had people tell me theories that a lot

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of it being that the family in that area are

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relaxed with me and things like that as to why

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they all happened in the same little area there. But

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my first starting happened in August twelfth to twenty eleven,

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and throughout the two thousands, I had a live event

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venue business that I ran using state park specifically group

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campsites in state parks that you can rent, and what

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we would do is we would basically if you've ever

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been to a renaissance festival or renfair, we basically did

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that on a smaller scale using group campsites, so we

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would have like vendors come in from out of state

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and they would all set up as merchants in these cabins,

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and we would have people that would come from all

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over the place, and then they would dress up the

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parts of nobles and nights and the L's and all

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this crazy stuff and spend the weekend basically just socializing

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and buying medieval kind of attire and stuff like that.

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Like I said, a miniature Renaissance festival. But the other

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two thousands, I rented a lot of these state parks

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for these events that we were having. And it was

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during one of these events that I had my first

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sighting and I was not my mind was the furthest

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away from Bigfoot. At the time, I was in the

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middle of running this event, and it was about one

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o'clock in the morning, and we had had a three

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hour field battle where people basically use these latex weapons

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and just wall up on each other, just go brave

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heart on one another and done this for three hours

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and everyone's walk going their own little ways now, and

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one of my staff members is I'm going to run

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down here to the river. There's a river about a

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quarter mile off site. Down and down the path and

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have some smoke and I'm gonna go to bed, and

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we got to get up and do this all day

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again tomorrow. This is like a this is a two

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week long event we're running. This is on day five

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of this event. And so I'm like, I walk down

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there with you. So we start to walk down there.

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And as we're passing the last cabin what's called C

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section of this site, we hear this snap crack off

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to the right hand side of us, and I think

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it's one of our one of our staff members coming

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to join us. And turn around and there is what

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I can only describe man as a seven foot hairy

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thing that is in the process of walking parallel to us.

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We both stop and that the guy I'm with, he's

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six foot five. He's a big dude. I'm six foot four.

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I'm a big guy. We turn to look at this

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thing and it takes a couple of steps in this

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high grass on the side of the woods, stops, turns

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the hole top half of itself to look at us

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and stay just stares at us. And I don't know

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how to explain this other than if you've been a

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big guy all your life, there's this level of I

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don't know, intimidation that you have around other guy, other people, right,

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smaller guy, smaller people, And that was what this thing

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was projecting towards us. There was absolutely no fear from

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this thing's body language. The confidence it was insane. It

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was just like, we're not even threats. And it turned

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its half and just walked right into the woods. And

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it had ruddy red hair like you would see on

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a really a bucking heat, but ruddy red hair. But

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you could see the musculature under its hair. It was hair,

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it wasn't fir. You could make out muscle definition. Even

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though it was one o'clock at night. We were about

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thirty yards from it, there was enough light coming from

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the moon that you could still make out muscle definition

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under this thing. Yeah, it turned walked into the woods

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and we both started screaming, like just instinctually screaming like girls.

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And I don't know how to explain it other than

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just just fear, just straight up. Our brains were scrambled,

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but we started screaming and running. We started running back

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towards the tavern area, and a bunch of people come

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running over to us because they heard us screaming, and

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we're asking us what was going on, and we're like,

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we don't We're not exactly sure. We didn't want to

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start throwing that on them, but yeah, that was the

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first time that we had we had a siding, I

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had a siding.

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Do you mind if I ask a few questions? And

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so that is an amazing encounter. The best thing I

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love about it is that you weren't out looking for Bigfoot.

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You're no, it sounds like you're doing some sort of

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like renaissance LARPing event. Is that right where.

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That's exactly what we ling exactly? Yes?

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No way, you saw Bigfoot during a two week LARPing event, Yes, sir,

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I did. Was it themed a certain way?

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Just high fantasy?

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That's amazing sys high fantasy LARPing. And then like Bigfoot

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is like, what is going on with all these people

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in the woods with these amazing weapons, and he's probably

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freaking out. This is awesome. Oh man.

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That's honestly one of the things I think that I've

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actually come to think is that may be why they

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were in the area, is because we were entertainment. Oh?

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Absolutely, did you get a good did you get a

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look at the bigfoot's face at all?

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During I did not get a good look at the

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face at the face. I don't know why I'm not because,

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like I said, I could you could make out musculature

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underneath the hair in the moonlight, but I didn't. I

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don't know if it was the distance or just the

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darkness of the face or what it was. But when

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it turned to look like you could feel the heaviness

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of that things looking at us. Oh, it was a

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feeling I haven't I haven't had before.

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Would you say it was it was a male individual?

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It struck me is that? Yes? And one thing about

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it too was it was very I've told people, excuse me,

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I've told people. It reminded me more. It had a

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lot of muscle on it, But it reminded me as

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if you take an NBA player and then you wrapped

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that muscle on top of an NBA player, Like it

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was more lean than it was just brick house.

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Yeah, so lean, but very muscular, as like a got it. Okay,

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that's really interesting. Remind me so how far away again

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from you guys were off a little bit away from

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like the tavern and things like that.

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Yeah, we were at the very last cabin before you

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get on the trail to go to that little river area.

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Okay, wow, Oh that's awesome.

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And from where it was walking too, Like, I've thought

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about this a lot, because I've let I've had my

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kids like that slept in that cabin, the last cabin

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on the other side, and from the direction he was walking,

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I am convinced he was walking from behind that cabin

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where he was peeking in that cabin. The thing I

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don't get to this day is that he doesn't that

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he could have easily just turned taken a step into

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the woods because that cabin is so close to the woodline,

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and yet he decided to walk parallel and let us

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hear him. I don't understand that at all.

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The next day, were you able to go and double

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check for tracks or any evidence here?

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Okay, we did. Some of my staff members. We had

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a staff meeting and we talked about what had happened.

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We're like, look, you don't have to believe us, but

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it was me and here's my staff member that was

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with it with us. Klindo's his name, and basically because

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Klindo actually teared up when he was talking about it.

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The big one of the guys was a big skeptic,

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was like, I believe you guys saw something because he's

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I've never seen that big man cry before. But the

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next morning some of the staff members ran out there

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to that to where we saw it. We told them

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more we saw it, and we got we walked out

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there and as we were walking out there, one of

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them was wide as a ghost because hey, there was

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a big, like seventeen and a half inch print just

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perfect in the grass. And he was just like, and

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you're sure you guys didn't put this out here. We're like, no, man,

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we didn't. Wow.

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And so you're trying to run a LARPing event and

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you've got all this evidence going on, so you're like,

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I can't really like probably just stop everything and start

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casting this tract because I've got to keep stuff going on.

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Oh man, Again, I wasn't. I would. This was the

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last even though I didn't failed investigating since the nineties,

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this was the last thing on my mind. I was

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there to do a job and to direct this event,

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make sure everything went off without a hitch.

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So I'm going to play a devil's advocate for a second.

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Did you run through the thinking of maybe it's one

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of the people here for the LARPing event that had

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some kind of like costom or something. Did that come

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through your mind for a few seconds?

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Or I've had people ask me that, they're like, are

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you sure it wasn't somebody in a costume? But like

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it was. You could see it. You could just see

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it was a real thing.

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Gotcha man, that's wild? Oh man? And that happened in Tennessee.

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Yes, okay, Van Buren County, Tennessee.

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Okay, gotcha man. That's why did you do research to

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see if any other sightings have also happened in that area? Beforehand?

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Et cetera. We had spoke to the game warden guy,

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the wildlife management officer that's over the place, and he

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was actually telling he had actually shared like, oh yeah,

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we've had a couple of people come in over the

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years and tell us to tell us this bigfoot story,

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that bigfoot story, and they're like whether or not it's

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real or not, But we started sharing stuff with them.

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Did that when that happened? We shared that with them

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when other things happened, because again, like I said, all

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the other siddings I've had have happened in about one

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hundred and fifty acres of that area.

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Oh this is man, so here's the same. So people

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are always I'm gonna get flag for this, but I

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don't care. People are always like Pacific Northwest. But dude,

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from doing five years of interviews Tennessee, the crazy stuff

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I've ever heard is coming out of Tennessee. Dude, in

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Kentucky like it is wild, especially Tennessee East Tennessee. Oh

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my goodness, even for a good time. Yeah.

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Yeah, some of these woods up here are are virgin timber.

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They've never been logged. People's there may have been some

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people that come through them two hundred years ago when

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the pioneers were coming through here, but nobody goes through

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them nowadays. Lot of the hunters don't even go through

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these areas anymore.

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So that was okay. So did anything anything else happen

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during that two week span or everyone's just really got foot?

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We found out, actually, but we found out years later

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that because again that was in twenty eleven. We found

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out years later after people started finding out about what

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had happened at the event, there was people that are like,

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let me tell you what happened when I did this?

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Oh no, there was an incense where there was a couple,

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a married couple that came out of their cabin. One

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of them was walking to the bathroom one of the

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bathhouses and said that a tree this is where she

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put it. This tree starts dancing just like this, starts

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shaking like this, and I'm like, so, what did you do?

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And she goes I turned around and walked right back

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into my cabin and I'm like, why didn't you say

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something to somebody? She's like, what am I supposed to

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say to somebody that I'll go, I'm going to the

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bathroom and a tree starts dancing. She's I didn't see

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what was making it do that. But another girl got on.

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I think it was day eleven. We were up there.

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She stopped going to c section because something growled at

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her when she went near a bath house. Granted we

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don't know what it was the growled at her, but

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something growled at her and it scared her so badly

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she refused to go back to that section anymore. And

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then a filmmaking buddy of mine. Josh Manning, he was

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actually getting up back then and going to the Art

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Institute of Nashville for his college stuff every morning, and

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he mentioned that he's I thought it was maybe you

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guys signaling that people were awake. But he said, I

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would get up out of my cabin and as I'm

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going to the bathroom every morning at about five point

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thirty in the morning, back behind ace what's called a

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00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:56.319
section of the campsite, he said, you would hear two knocks.

459
00:25:56.799 --> 00:25:57.000
Oh.

460
00:25:57.160 --> 00:25:59.759
And he said that I thought it was you guys

461
00:25:59.799 --> 00:26:02.839
signaling to each other that all that I'm awake, And

462
00:26:02.880 --> 00:26:04.720
I'm like, no, man, we were already in bed. We

463
00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:07.920
were asleep by that point. So we had wood knocks,

464
00:26:07.960 --> 00:26:11.599
we had stuff being shaken at people, all this stuff

465
00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:13.599
that we had no idea all that stuff was going

466
00:26:13.640 --> 00:26:14.599
on at the same time.

467
00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:15.960
Oh.

468
00:26:16.039 --> 00:26:18.279
And then we found out later on too, from a

469
00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:20.720
player that there was a player that said he came

470
00:26:20.720 --> 00:26:23.200
out of one of the cabins one time and he

471
00:26:23.240 --> 00:26:26.480
said that there was a giant man. The way he

472
00:26:26.559 --> 00:26:29.480
put it was up under the awning of one of

473
00:26:29.480 --> 00:26:31.720
the cabins, and he said he could just see him

474
00:26:31.720 --> 00:26:35.680
in silhouette. But he said, this guy was huge, and

475
00:26:35.720 --> 00:26:37.559
he said that I just stood there thinking it was

476
00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:39.119
one of us, so that we're going to attack him

477
00:26:39.200 --> 00:26:42.319
or something. And he said, this thing's just frozen. It

478
00:26:42.359 --> 00:26:45.759
doesn't move. And he said finally I ended up walking

479
00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:48.519
off and I'm like okay, and he said it never moved,

480
00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:52.359
he just stood there, so he was gone. So there's

481
00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:56.920
all this potential other stuff that's happened around the same campsite.

482
00:26:57.119 --> 00:27:00.440
This is my new favorite bigfoot Like this is literally

483
00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:03.000
my new favorite one, Randy, because it's like you have

484
00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:05.799
all these people that are not bigfoot people but like

485
00:27:05.960 --> 00:27:10.759
experiencing difference. It is so cool, man, I love it.

486
00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:11.839
Wow.

487
00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:14.680
Have you ever gone back and researched that area again?

488
00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:18.839
Oh yes, yeah, yeah, heavily. That's actually where our main

489
00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:22.039
research area now, oh yeah, and that's where I've had

490
00:27:22.039 --> 00:27:25.039
my my other three sottings was in that same area,

491
00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:29.279
not the same that the campsite, but down a trail

492
00:27:29.400 --> 00:27:31.880
farther into the woods, but in that area of the area.

493
00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:36.759
Oh man, so I was twenty eleven. Was it stuff

494
00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:40.559
like off the bat or a few years later that

495
00:27:40.599 --> 00:27:42.519
you experienced other things in that area?

496
00:27:42.720 --> 00:27:47.279
Or yeah? Well okay, so I didn't go looking for

497
00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:51.839
anything right off the bat. I told myself that I

498
00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:55.319
had rented this place so many times and run so

499
00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:58.319
many events out of this place that this had to

500
00:27:58.359 --> 00:28:00.359
be like a fluke. This had to be like it

501
00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:02.720
just was coming, it was on its way through or something.

502
00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:05.480
There's no way it lived here. But after I talked

503
00:28:05.759 --> 00:28:08.079
to it, like I said, I talked to the game

504
00:28:08.119 --> 00:28:11.319
warden guy, and he started talking about, oh yeah, this

505
00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:14.240
they told us about this, and some kids said that

506
00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:18.599
Bigfoot destroyed their fort and all this crazy stuff. We

507
00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:21.799
actually were going to do an event, and we decided

508
00:28:21.799 --> 00:28:24.079
there was this one trail that we'd never used before

509
00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:27.640
that's just over the little river area that we were

510
00:28:27.680 --> 00:28:29.400
going down through that night, and so we were going

511
00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:31.160
to go up this trail. And as I was going

512
00:28:31.200 --> 00:28:36.279
down this trail, I just goofully started knocking on trees.

513
00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:40.759
And we walk almost a mile down this trail, and

514
00:28:40.759 --> 00:28:43.319
I'm knocking on trees like every quarter mile or so,

515
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:50.599
and finally I go I knock, and about forty fifty

516
00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:54.680
yards this seems like in the woodline. There's a response,

517
00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:56.519
and me and the guy I'm with both kind of

518
00:28:56.519 --> 00:29:02.240
freeze and go to turn and as we're turning on

519
00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:05.799
the opposite side of us from the where we heard

520
00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:09.039
the wood knocks, there was what I can only describe

521
00:29:09.079 --> 00:29:13.079
is what sounded like an exasperated sound, like the sound

522
00:29:13.079 --> 00:29:17.759
of like that. I have no idea what that sound

523
00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:21.599
came out of, but it sounded like a big a

524
00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:26.440
really big guy just and I've wondered ever since if

525
00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:29.440
maybe it was I don't know, it was like, oh God,

526
00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:32.319
you gave us away or something like that. I don't know,

527
00:29:32.960 --> 00:29:37.079
But so we left. We got spooked by the wooden knocks.

528
00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:40.400
We left, which we kept coming back, kept wood knocking.

529
00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:43.279
They kept wood knocking back at us. I've got a

530
00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:46.960
whole bunch of wood knocking videos on my YouTube.

531
00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:50.480
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532
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533
00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:58.880
But the second siding I had was on December the

534
00:29:58.920 --> 00:30:02.599
tenth of twenty fifteen, and me and another guy named

535
00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:08.799
Trevor had trekked back and there was a really large

536
00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:12.880
tree that had fallen over and he's like, hey, do

537
00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:16.279
you see that? And this is at a pretty good

538
00:30:16.279 --> 00:30:18.559
distance though, mind you, and I'm like, what are you

539
00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:20.920
talking about? So he like comes over and literally gets

540
00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:27.119
my face like right there, and there was something behind

541
00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:30.319
this big tree and you could see what looked like

542
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:33.240
the head and a hump, and its arm was draped

543
00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:37.000
over the tree. And we watched as this thing's arm

544
00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:41.440
just does this and goes over the tree and he

545
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:47.599
just disappears. And it was about probably fifty yards by

546
00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:51.319
the way we saw this, and that was about enough

547
00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:53.839
that we wanted that day, so we got out of

548
00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:57.440
the woods. The third siding I had was on June

549
00:30:57.480 --> 00:31:00.400
the eighth of twenty sixteen, and that that's the one

550
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:03.599
that changed everything. That's one I think we talked about

551
00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:07.319
a little bit before when we were back and forth.

552
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:11.519
That one was I had trecked way back up into

553
00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:15.920
this area. I had something approached me earlier that day

554
00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:18.799
at a close range and spooked me to begin with.

555
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:23.240
And as I'm trekking through some mountain Laurel, really thick

556
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:27.319
mountain Laurel, I'm having to push it aside, take a step,

557
00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:30.799
push it aside, take a step. And as I'm doing that,

558
00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:35.160
I pushed some aside and about maybe twenty feet from me,

559
00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:39.759
there was a big root ball that is at this

560
00:31:39.880 --> 00:31:46.079
angle over here, and immediately I see this hole that's

561
00:31:46.119 --> 00:31:49.279
in the bottom like quarter of this root ball. And

562
00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:52.640
it's June. This is on June the eighth, So June's

563
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:56.359
when coyoties have pups. And so I knew that, and

564
00:31:57.799 --> 00:31:59.920
they love to make dens and stuff like that. And

565
00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:03.359
I just because I say it's a hole, because you

566
00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:05.839
know how like a hole has depth when you look

567
00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:08.720
at it, the darkness. That's what this thing looks like.

568
00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:13.200
And as I'm staring at this hole like figuring and

569
00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:17.359
I'm about to get tore up by coyotes, it moves

570
00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:21.680
and it's not a hole at all, and it's like

571
00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:26.079
this when it moves. The only way I can describe

572
00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:28.839
the thing that it did was if you've ever had

573
00:32:28.839 --> 00:32:31.440
a kid, like put a kid in time out on

574
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:34.799
a couch, how like a kid will push themselves up

575
00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:37.119
against the couch like they don't want to be there

576
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:41.319
and do this. That's what this thing was doing. And

577
00:32:41.680 --> 00:32:45.519
I don't know to this day why I couldn't see

578
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:47.440
it for what it was. I don't know if it

579
00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:50.920
was like I've had. Ron Moorhead actually told me at

580
00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:53.960
the conference just a couple of weeks ago, he's maybe

581
00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:55.480
you did know what you were looking at and your

582
00:32:55.519 --> 00:32:57.759
brain was just like, n uh. I don't know what

583
00:32:57.839 --> 00:33:02.240
it was, but I did. When it moved into that position,

584
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:04.920
it gave itself away and I could see what it was,

585
00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:12.599
and it was a child, and it was a black haired,

586
00:33:12.759 --> 00:33:17.119
dark skinned child. It was not an ape. It did

587
00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:21.119
not look like a gibbon or a chimpanzee. It looked

588
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:25.799
like a kid. And the fact that it was looking

589
00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:29.160
like it was trying to hide and afraid just elicited

590
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:32.000
something in me. I've got four kids of my own,

591
00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:36.960
and so I tear through this mountain Laurel. After this,

592
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:39.680
after I realized what I'm looking at, drive all the

593
00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:41.759
way home. It's a forty minute drive to my house

594
00:33:41.799 --> 00:33:45.720
from where this area is. I get home, I basically

595
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:47.960
have convinced myself on the drive home that I'm not

596
00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:50.400
going to tell anybody that I even had deciding, because

597
00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:52.680
who's going to believe I saw a little feral kid.

598
00:33:53.319 --> 00:33:54.920
And as soon as I walk in the door, my

599
00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:58.720
wife is, honey, what's wrong? And I'm like, what do

600
00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:01.720
you mean, what's wrong? And she's I can tell something's wrong.

601
00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:06.480
You look tense. She could just tell automatically, and so

602
00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:09.559
I took her into the side room and we sat

603
00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:12.280
down and I started telling her and I just broke

604
00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:15.719
down and started crying. And I don't know. I'm not

605
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:20.480
a I'm not a crime top, but it was that's

606
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:25.519
changed me. My wife like literally told said to me.

607
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:27.119
She said, honey, what did you think was going to

608
00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:31.599
happen if you kept doing this? And I'm like, I

609
00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:34.719
thought that I might see something peek out from behind

610
00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:38.400
a tree at me something like that. I didn't think

611
00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:42.519
I was going to see what's tantamount to a scared kid,

612
00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:46.639
but that's what I saw. So after that, I didn't

613
00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:48.719
go up there for about eight days after that because

614
00:34:48.719 --> 00:34:51.360
it had spooped me so badly and it messed with

615
00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:54.119
me too, man, Like I there was a part of

616
00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:57.199
me that was literally like I need to call someone,

617
00:34:58.119 --> 00:35:02.199
like I need to someone needs to know that there

618
00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:04.280
is a there's a hairy kid out in the wood.

619
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:08.559
That sounds crazy, but that's how much it affected me.

620
00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:11.559
Like I lost sleep over this. So when I finally

621
00:35:11.599 --> 00:35:15.039
ended up going back back up there, it changed my

622
00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:19.880
entire approach. Like I was going up there with this

623
00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:24.400
kind of I'm looking for a big bipedal epe and

624
00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:28.199
I'm not sure what it is that we're looking for now.

625
00:35:28.679 --> 00:35:32.679
To be honest, it's still to this day, I'm still

626
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:37.079
trying to figure out what you're looking for. It sounds like, yeah, yeah,

627
00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:40.519
I imagine you see something like that and you can easily.

628
00:35:41.960 --> 00:35:46.480
You hear these stories about how people have what they

629
00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:48.679
think the creatures in their sights and they're like, I

630
00:35:48.679 --> 00:35:52.760
couldn't pull the trigger because it was just too real.

631
00:35:53.639 --> 00:35:56.639
There was a human like quality to what I was

632
00:35:56.679 --> 00:36:00.440
seeing and I couldn't do it. And after hearing story

633
00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:05.360
like that, is I totally get it? That's wild. Yeah,

634
00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:08.760
and you're saying all this within the same one hundred

635
00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:11.039
and fifty roughly.

636
00:36:11.559 --> 00:36:19.159
Wow area, Yes, WHOA And I've again i'd why. And

637
00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:22.559
I had a researcher friend of mine, really well known

638
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:25.039
when I'm not going to name drop him, but basically

639
00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:28.119
he told me that he's they know you, and I'm like,

640
00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:30.800
what do you mean, And he's you've been running those

641
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:34.960
events there for years, for years. They've seen you there.

642
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:37.400
They see that everyone listens to you because you're the

643
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:39.480
one directing events. They see that you're the one that

644
00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:42.679
everyone's coming to. You're the one everyone's talking to at

645
00:36:42.719 --> 00:36:47.559
some point at these events, and that they and they

646
00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:51.760
know me, And he was alluding to like they were

647
00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:57.079
introducing themselves almost or letting me know. That's that that

648
00:36:57.079 --> 00:36:59.880
that's really messed with me with the juvenile too. Is

649
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:04.800
it like a I got approached earlier that day, like

650
00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:08.639
by something, They got really close. I've got video of

651
00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:10.599
that where you can actually hear it walking through the

652
00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:15.559
woods towards me. But I've questioned, like, why did that

653
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:18.679
thing even let me see it like that? It could

654
00:37:18.719 --> 00:37:20.679
have scurried around the edge of that root ball. I

655
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:24.440
would have never known it was there. And He's they

656
00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:26.920
wanted you to see it, like they almost like they

657
00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:28.719
wanted you to know they had a family up there.

658
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:31.480
And that's the way it's changed. It definitely has changed

659
00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:34.039
me that regard, Like when I go up there, it's

660
00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:38.360
now I'm dealing with a family. I respect it like that. Now.

661
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:42.599
I can't tell you what they are, but I can

662
00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:47.719
tell you they're they're they're enough like us that it's Franklin.

663
00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:48.480
It's disturbing.

664
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:56.000
But man, that just hearing that, Yeah, it affects you. Randy, Wow,

665
00:37:56.960 --> 00:38:02.239
I can't imagine going through what you went through. Yeah,

666
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:06.239
as you said, you've got kids. I have a kid

667
00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:10.199
as well, and I think, yeah, that would really make

668
00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:15.119
me approach the whole subject a totally different way, totally

669
00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:19.400
different way. Ye oh man, And you're are still going

670
00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:21.519
to that area even to this day.

671
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:24.960
Oh yeah, yeah, we still go up there. We do.

672
00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:29.320
We leave them fruit sometimes we've had we What's interesting

673
00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:32.599
with the game warden in that area, there's an area

674
00:38:32.639 --> 00:38:36.400
where they when one of the trails near this area,

675
00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:39.639
they've actually shut down the park has They don't even

676
00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:41.840
they don't even let anybody go down the park the

677
00:38:41.880 --> 00:38:45.400
trail anymore. And I asked them all, why did you

678
00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:47.559
just abandon the trail and they're like, we just got

679
00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:51.000
tired of going out there having to chainsaw all the

680
00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:54.199
logs up from the trees that were falling on the trail.

681
00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:57.559
And that trail is one of the trails we used

682
00:38:57.599 --> 00:39:01.480
to get back to our area, and they've just given

683
00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:05.639
up on it because they they said that they basically

684
00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:10.480
chainsaw the logs up. Very next day some about howker

685
00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:12.639
would be like it there's more trees down and they

686
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:14.320
go out there and the trees will be ten foot

687
00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:15.400
from where the other trees were.

688
00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:18.880
Wow, They're like, yeah, we don't want any more humans

689
00:39:18.920 --> 00:39:21.000
going near our area. So we're just gonna put trees

690
00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:26.039
all over the place, over the trails. That's crazy, man. Yeah,

691
00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:31.639
that game war and has seen some man talking to you. Yeah,

692
00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:33.880
they know more than they let on to you. Oh

693
00:39:33.920 --> 00:39:40.320
totally so much. Wow is man? That is Wold, Tennessee.

694
00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:46.039
Is just this story after story man, of this stuff

695
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:48.960
going on in that state. For sure. It's interesting what

696
00:39:49.039 --> 00:39:52.920
your wife said too. I've heard that come up a

697
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:56.039
few times, which is it's like, what do you think

698
00:39:56.559 --> 00:39:57.400
what's gonna.

699
00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:00.960
I didn't think the that's what was going to happen.

700
00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:04.440
I didn't. Yeah, that's yeah.

701
00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:07.920
Do you have any Maybe you can't answer this, but

702
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:12.800
have you considered any type of like long term field

703
00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:17.079
recorder putting one out there, Yeah, to see if you

704
00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:18.599
can capture audio over and.

705
00:40:18.679 --> 00:40:21.199
Oh yeah we've done that before. Oh yeah, we've got

706
00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:24.559
We caught audio of something approaching the thing forty five

707
00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:25.880
minutes after we stick it out there.

708
00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:31.960
Oh wow, man, that's that is wild. Thank you, Thank

709
00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:33.960
you for sharing all that, man. I'm that's going to

710
00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:37.320
take me a while to process all of that. I

711
00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:41.960
also wanted to chat with you a bit about I

712
00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:46.719
was reading through your messages and you had mentioned were

713
00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:49.800
Wolf Springs, and I've heard other people mention this too,

714
00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:53.800
and so it's primarily a big foot podcast, but other

715
00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:57.199
stuff is starting. I'm starting to branch into other things,

716
00:40:57.239 --> 00:41:01.159
like some dog man things and et cetera. And this

717
00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:04.000
is going to be fun because I was looking into

718
00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:06.519
Werewolf Springs a little bit and I was like, Montgomery

719
00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:11.199
Bell State Park, why does that sound familiar? And we

720
00:41:11.280 --> 00:41:15.639
finally get to connect two of my favorite things, cryptids

721
00:41:16.599 --> 00:41:21.440
and a certain nineteen eighties movie that is near and

722
00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:25.119
dear to my heart from my childhood. And maybe you

723
00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:27.519
get what I'm talking about, but I'll tell you in

724
00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:29.840
a bit. But can you share a little bit about

725
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:33.599
what's going on with Werewolf Springs. I saw that your conference.

726
00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:36.719
You were thinking about maybe taking people out there to

727
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:38.800
check it out. But it sounds like it's got quite

728
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:41.400
the history of some interesting things happening.

729
00:41:41.840 --> 00:41:44.519
Oh yeah it does. Yeah. We were actually going to

730
00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:47.960
take some people out and the park put up a gate.

731
00:41:48.519 --> 00:41:51.880
They didn't want a bunch of bigfoot free coos going

732
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:55.800
out there and messing with the spring. It was pretty hilarious.

733
00:41:56.360 --> 00:41:57.800
Hill Bit Holler was going to go out there and

734
00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:01.800
do it, do a whole thing we got denied. But

735
00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:04.800
the story of the Werewell Spring goes back to the

736
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:08.840
eighteen sixties, and the whole premise of the story is

737
00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:11.119
that there's two kind of two stories. There's one where

738
00:42:11.119 --> 00:42:14.280
it's two brothers. There's another where it's a man in

739
00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:19.079
one of his workers for his farm. But either way,

740
00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:22.360
they were going to two brothers. One for instance, they

741
00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:26.760
went to the cemetery hall what's called Hall Cemetery, and

742
00:42:26.880 --> 00:42:29.480
there's a spring about a quarter mile from Hall Cemetery

743
00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:32.920
called Hall's Spring. They walked up to Hall Spring to

744
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:35.840
get something to drink before going back to the town,

745
00:42:35.920 --> 00:42:38.480
which at the time the whole area was called Bluff's

746
00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:42.559
I'm sorry, was called Burns Station. It's not just Burns, Tennessee.

747
00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:45.119
But they went to go with some water, and as

748
00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:48.320
they were getting water, according to the story, one of

749
00:42:48.360 --> 00:42:53.719
them noticed basically this large hairy man monster thing on

750
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:55.679
the other side of the spring staring at them in

751
00:42:55.679 --> 00:42:59.920
the woods. And they both went running and one of

752
00:42:59.920 --> 00:43:02.320
the brothers got caught, captured and killed and the other

753
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:06.119
brother didn't. And in that story, that brother made it

754
00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:08.639
back to Burns Station told the people what had happened,

755
00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:12.840
and there was actually documented stuff in a newspaper from

756
00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:15.679
back in those days where they took a posse out

757
00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:19.000
there to haul Spring and they even staked a goat

758
00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:22.960
up out there at Hall Spring trying to capture whatever

759
00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:26.840
this thing was, and that story has turned into basically

760
00:43:26.880 --> 00:43:29.920
that's what. That's the seed of the Werewolf of Montgomery

761
00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:32.760
Bells and Werewolf Springs. That's how it gets its name.

762
00:43:33.239 --> 00:43:37.440
And that whole area up there's got Whitehall is the

763
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:41.440
little town next to Burns and Whitehall has the Whitehall Screamer,

764
00:43:41.480 --> 00:43:45.960
the Whitehall Howler, Hall Whistler. That whole area has like

765
00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:49.239
names for a lot of the cryptids in that area.

766
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:52.239
Oh wow, So there's a lot going on. Is that

767
00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:54.760
the white Hall stuff? Is that like a dog man

768
00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:57.920
or a bigfoot type deal, or it could be a mixture,

769
00:43:58.039 --> 00:43:58.880
or it.

770
00:43:58.840 --> 00:44:02.719
Could be both, honestly, but most of them. I think

771
00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:06.039
that the community down there's embraced the dog man thing

772
00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:09.599
the last couple of years. So that's really where, especially

773
00:44:09.639 --> 00:44:13.119
with were Wolf Springs, the park is really embracing that.

774
00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:16.639
So I think that more and more over the years,

775
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:18.599
as you you'll come and see that that that whole

776
00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:22.920
anything in the Whitehall area Montgomery Bell will be dog

777
00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:24.119
Man werewolf related.

778
00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:27.800
Okay, guys, so where people can actually they can go

779
00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:31.800
to this park and they have like dog man stuff or.

780
00:44:32.239 --> 00:44:34.440
They've got it. They have a When we were having

781
00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:36.599
the call, they actually put on and we didn't even

782
00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:40.000
know they had it. They on the screens there in

783
00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:43.800
the park a lobby, they were playing the legend of

784
00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:44.840
Werewolf Springs.

785
00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:48.760
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786
00:44:48.760 --> 00:44:49.800
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787
00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:55.760
And it's like a it was a little movie that

788
00:44:55.840 --> 00:45:00.280
apparently the park made back like in the nineties. Oh yeah,

789
00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:02.800
So they were playing it for us and along with

790
00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:06.119
the con there, it's pretty nat that's awesome.

791
00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:09.760
Okay, So here's I'll let you know. This is my

792
00:45:09.880 --> 00:45:14.840
fun fact about Montgomery Bell. So there's a store. There's

793
00:45:14.840 --> 00:45:17.239
a movie that I love from the nineteen eighties called

794
00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:20.280
Ernest Goes to Camp. Yeah, Ernest Goes to Campus filmed

795
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:23.360
in Montgomery Bell State Park. Because I've watched YouTube videos

796
00:45:23.400 --> 00:45:25.719
about so the cabins are all up that are in

797
00:45:25.800 --> 00:45:28.559
the movie, and like you can go supposedly to that

798
00:45:28.559 --> 00:45:30.599
park and you can see all the cabins out in

799
00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:34.239
the film. And I'm an Ernest fan outside of big

800
00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:37.719
I like Ernest stuff. So eventually, like I was, it

801
00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:39.519
was already my bucket list, Like I'm going to go

802
00:45:39.559 --> 00:45:41.639
to the state park and see where Ernest Goes to

803
00:45:41.719 --> 00:45:44.079
Camp was filmed. And then I find out like it's

804
00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:47.760
a total cryptid hotspot. I'm like, this is amazing. This

805
00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:49.280
is the best news I've ever heard.

806
00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:53.280
Yep, I've actually run Evince out of that campsite.

807
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:55.719
Really, it's a pretty beautiful.

808
00:45:55.760 --> 00:45:57.519
It's a beautiful camp side. It's beautiful.

809
00:45:57.639 --> 00:46:00.679
Yeah. Are they Ernest? Are they earned events?

810
00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:03.039
No, they weren't Arnest events.

811
00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:06.079
That's too bad. I hear they have an Earnest Day

812
00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:10.280
every year. Oh yeah, they celebrate Ernest goes to Camp

813
00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:12.760
and they watched the film and like Ernest goes to

814
00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:17.679
Camp things, And my listenership is slowly being like and

815
00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:19.800
I don't like Ernest goes the camp. Guys, I love

816
00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:21.840
the camp. So you're gonna have to deal with it.

817
00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:26.039
But so you're super into two big for and you're

818
00:46:26.039 --> 00:46:28.639
focusing on this one area. Are there other areas of

819
00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:31.920
the state that you've also been involved with your research

820
00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:36.519
or you're focusing just mainly on Van Buren County?

821
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:41.159
Oh? No, Warren County, Van Buren County, Watt County, Grundee County,

822
00:46:41.599 --> 00:46:47.079
Sequatchee County. Most of those counties we yeah run around in.

823
00:46:47.880 --> 00:46:52.920
We found four other hotspots active research areas in about

824
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:56.159
a forty five mile kind of area near where that

825
00:46:56.519 --> 00:46:59.880
the one is with the camp stop and the area

826
00:46:59.880 --> 00:47:03.840
of the Cumberland Plateau is really my main area that

827
00:47:03.960 --> 00:47:07.920
did we research and investigate. There's an area called Highway eight.

828
00:47:08.519 --> 00:47:13.280
People might Tennesseeans will know what it's hair as Oh

829
00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:15.400
what is it called? Okay, I mean I just forgot

830
00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:18.880
its name. Hey, that's all right, keep it safe, man,

831
00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:24.800
just completely gone, That's all right. But Highway eight up

832
00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:28.239
on the Cumbland Plateau. We've spoken to over a dozen

833
00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:32.239
families in a in about a six mile area that

834
00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:36.320
have all we were pretty sure he's sharing the same Bigfoot.

835
00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:38.880
And the reason that we think it's they're sharing the

836
00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:41.679
same one is they've described when they talked about seeing him,

837
00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:45.679
they've described the same individual a couple of the different

838
00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:50.119
There's been three houses where he's window peaked. And what's

839
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:52.440
wild is the people have described that he's got the

840
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:56.800
same gray swath of hair on the front of his head. Yeah,

841
00:47:56.800 --> 00:47:59.679
and hearing these people talk about this stuff completely they

842
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:02.519
have no idea about the other people experiencing this stuff.

843
00:48:03.079 --> 00:48:04.480
And then one of them talking about, yeah, you had

844
00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:07.639
a gentlemanly swath of gray on his forehead, and we're like,

845
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:09.480
what do you mean gentlemanly? And he was like, you

846
00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:13.000
know how you get a swath just right there? It's

847
00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:13.599
pretty wild?

848
00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:16.840
Wow, Well that's that is wild?

849
00:48:18.000 --> 00:48:22.800
Is there named Atticus? I love it? People in that area.

850
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:26.760
That's a jit man. I love that. That's a great name.

851
00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:30.400
Have you looked into, like how the that area is

852
00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:34.000
set up? Do you think there's anything about the the

853
00:48:34.119 --> 00:48:36.800
topography or the climate to the area that.

854
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:40.239
I do A lot of the houses that have actually

855
00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:44.559
had had Atticus messing with them. If you actually go

856
00:48:44.639 --> 00:48:47.519
off the if you look at the top of the plateau,

857
00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:52.800
it's basically he's just hugging the very top of the plateau.

858
00:48:53.199 --> 00:48:56.239
He's just walking the plateau and all of these houses

859
00:48:56.719 --> 00:48:59.400
where you've got these dips in the plateau and the topography.

860
00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:02.760
He's going in and hitting all these houses along just

861
00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:05.320
the edges of this plateau and the way the roads

862
00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:09.920
go cut across the area. There's about four or five

863
00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:13.079
different roads that cut off the main highway of Highway eight.

864
00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:15.239
And so what you have is you have all these

865
00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:17.800
kind of black islands of roads where these people on

866
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:20.519
these roads. Some of these people on the roads may

867
00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:23.280
know that stuff's going on, but they're only talking to

868
00:49:23.320 --> 00:49:26.960
their neighbors. And then a road down they're having the

869
00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:30.199
exact same stuff go on, but they don't know because

870
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:32.199
they're just talking. They're not talking to their neighbors either.

871
00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:33.960
And it's hilarious.

872
00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:39.599
Oh that's hilarious, but also freaky. Man. You think about it,

873
00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:42.559
like they could be experiencing bigfoot stuff for years and

874
00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:46.840
have no idea their neighbors are being messed with. I

875
00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:48.920
guess it's just goes to show you know who your

876
00:49:48.920 --> 00:49:51.639
neighbors are and maybe you talk to them a little bit. Man.

877
00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:53.679
Oh dude, that's wild.

878
00:49:54.320 --> 00:49:57.960
We had two girls up there that actually that saw

879
00:49:58.440 --> 00:50:02.880
one and broad daylight laying on a boulder. I said

880
00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:05.199
that it was looking at with the sun sun was

881
00:50:06.199 --> 00:50:08.760
down on it, so it looked like a giant orangutang almost,

882
00:50:09.360 --> 00:50:12.440
And when we were talking to them, we're like, have

883
00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:14.840
you talked to your neighbors? And they're like, oh, our

884
00:50:14.880 --> 00:50:18.079
neighbors are old, they don't ever go outside, they wouldn't

885
00:50:18.079 --> 00:50:19.920
know about any of this stuff happening. And we had

886
00:50:19.960 --> 00:50:22.360
already talked to their neighbors, and one of their neighbors

887
00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:25.000
knew this stuff was going on. And so it's just

888
00:50:26.159 --> 00:50:28.840
in rural communities. If you're having big foot activity, talk

889
00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:32.039
to your neighbor. You may be surprised just how much

890
00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:33.760
you guys are sharing.

891
00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:41.159
Absolutely, have you ever let's see, and I'm not being

892
00:50:41.159 --> 00:50:45.920
from Iowa, I'm not like the best with Tennessee geography,

893
00:50:46.559 --> 00:50:50.719
sorry about that, but have you ever gone far into

894
00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:58.519
the far eastern side of the state? And yeah, ok, yeah,

895
00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:00.559
because like I talked to some people and they're like,

896
00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:04.800
it seems like the further east you get in Tennessee,

897
00:51:04.840 --> 00:51:07.599
like there's some kind of weird stuff that goes on

898
00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:10.920
over there. Do you think there's any truth to that

899
00:51:11.119 --> 00:51:13.840
or is it? You're like, it's all over the place

900
00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:14.480
in Tennessee.

901
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:17.360
There's Narry and he's really East Tennessee that I've been

902
00:51:17.400 --> 00:51:22.119
to several times called Delamo, and the largest bigfoot siding

903
00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:25.079
that I've ever had reported in me happened there right

904
00:51:25.159 --> 00:51:28.760
next to a Christmas tree farm. And dude swears up

905
00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:31.119
and down if this thing was twelve feet tall. The

906
00:51:31.199 --> 00:51:34.840
only reason I would I granted that he could judge

907
00:51:34.920 --> 00:51:38.079
hot was because for a living, he was one of

908
00:51:38.159 --> 00:51:41.360
those guys that goes out and works on poles, electric

909
00:51:41.400 --> 00:51:44.000
lines and all that. And he actually told me he's

910
00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:46.320
and I know how much twelve foot is because electric

911
00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:49.679
pole blah blah blah is fifteen feet from the ground

912
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:53.800
to the blaw. And I think that I really wonder

913
00:51:53.840 --> 00:51:56.239
if they don't get bigger the farther east you go.

914
00:51:56.559 --> 00:51:59.280
The stories that I've been told Larry that I live

915
00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:03.760
in we have over fifteen thousand caves in just about

916
00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:06.880
a four county region. So in a way, I kind

917
00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:10.039
of wonder if sometimes when people in this area report

918
00:52:10.039 --> 00:52:13.320
them as being leaner, if that's because of the like

919
00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:16.000
an adaptation actually to the caves that we have.

920
00:52:16.639 --> 00:52:20.559
That seems to be a recurring theme that has been

921
00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:23.159
coming up in the last few years, is that maybe

922
00:52:23.159 --> 00:52:27.519
there's a correlation between there's that graphic that keeps going

923
00:52:27.559 --> 00:52:32.519
around where it's I think it's like they overlay bigfoot

924
00:52:32.639 --> 00:52:37.519
sightings over like the cave systems in the US. It's

925
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:40.480
a really interesting thing to think about. I don't know

926
00:52:41.320 --> 00:52:41.880
I could be.

927
00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:45.320
Oh yeah, it's definitely a lot of shelter. Man.

928
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:49.800
You are a total wealth of information, Randy. Have you

929
00:52:50.039 --> 00:52:53.519
ever gone out of state to investigate as any anywhere

930
00:52:53.639 --> 00:52:55.039
or is it primarily Tennessee?

931
00:52:55.599 --> 00:52:58.280
I have. I've been out of state to northwest to

932
00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:01.840
Louisiana a couple of times. That's the only place I've

933
00:53:01.840 --> 00:53:04.719
actually went out of state to go look for this stuff. Though.

934
00:53:05.280 --> 00:53:09.880
Okay, gotcha anything weird happened down in Louisiana.

935
00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:13.480
I got some good vocalizations, gotcha.

936
00:53:13.679 --> 00:53:17.480
Man, I gotta get down to Tennessee for sure. I

937
00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:18.639
just got it. That'd be funny.

938
00:53:18.679 --> 00:53:20.719
Did you get down here? Come to Montgomery Belle Man,

939
00:53:20.760 --> 00:53:23.039
I'll meet you down there and we can, Dude, I'll

940
00:53:23.079 --> 00:53:24.920
show you were Wolf Springs and we can go check

941
00:53:24.920 --> 00:53:25.719
out Ernest.

942
00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:29.960
The camp and wear all springs. That's the ultimate combination. Randy.

943
00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:35.159
This has been a extremely fun chat and chatting with you,

944
00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:39.119
and I'm sure you'll have I'm sure there's gonna be

945
00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:41.920
stuff in the future as well. But I know you're

946
00:53:41.960 --> 00:53:45.199
a guy that you keeped your You're not really out

947
00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:48.840
there a lot, but are there ways? I'm sure there's

948
00:53:48.880 --> 00:53:52.039
gonna be people that hear this episode, and I just

949
00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:54.440
got a feeling they're going to be like, I gotta

950
00:53:54.480 --> 00:53:58.440
contact this dude. Are there ways that people can contact

951
00:53:58.519 --> 00:54:01.719
you if they've been having is shue you things happen

952
00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:04.559
in the same areas that you were talking about, the

953
00:54:04.599 --> 00:54:07.000
same counties, et cetera.

954
00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:11.000
Sure. Sure, they can get hold of me on Facebook,

955
00:54:11.039 --> 00:54:13.400
they can get hold in, I can put my I

956
00:54:13.480 --> 00:54:15.880
can share my email if I don't know if I

957
00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:18.760
need to spell it out, or tennis squatch at Gmail,

958
00:54:18.840 --> 00:54:25.679
which is T E N E s qu A T

959
00:54:25.880 --> 00:54:27.679
C h at gmail dot com.

960
00:54:28.199 --> 00:54:28.599
Perfect.

961
00:54:28.920 --> 00:54:32.400
Yeah, I'm more. I'm We've got a team of six

962
00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:35.639
individuals in the town that I live in that go

963
00:54:35.719 --> 00:54:38.480
out and if we need to do field investigations and

964
00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:39.679
all that are cool.

965
00:54:40.559 --> 00:54:43.440
And you have a YouTube channel as well, people can.

966
00:54:43.360 --> 00:54:45.480
Follow I do, but I don't know, I don't have

967
00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:46.119
it off hand.

968
00:54:46.840 --> 00:54:49.599
Okay, well I'll put it in the link. It's forty

969
00:54:50.360 --> 00:54:54.199
forty in Tennessee, gotcha. And you have videos and stuff

970
00:54:54.239 --> 00:54:58.440
from different different times you've been out researching, so definitely

971
00:54:58.440 --> 00:55:03.480
people want to subscribe and follow to that. But Randy,

972
00:55:03.519 --> 00:55:07.880
any closing thoughts before we head out for the night.

973
00:55:08.519 --> 00:55:11.880
Ah non I can think of man, I appreciate you,

974
00:55:12.039 --> 00:55:13.599
appreciate the opportunity.

975
00:55:14.239 --> 00:55:17.960
How can people lastly, how can people keep up to

976
00:55:18.559 --> 00:55:22.760
date with what's going on with the Tennessee Wildman Conference.

977
00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:25.960
Oh, easiest way to do that is just keep track

978
00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:30.239
of Tennesseewildman dot org. That's our website. We'll be changing

979
00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:33.519
it up. We'll have any kind of updates on there.

980
00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:38.039
Awesome, Oh Randy, such fun chat. Thank you so much

981
00:55:38.400 --> 00:55:41.519
for coming on tonight, and we'll definitely be in touch

982
00:55:41.840 --> 00:55:45.000
in the future. Please take a minute to help out

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00:56:06.599 --> 00:56:09.440
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990
00:56:09.559 --> 00:56:13.519
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00:56:18.199 --> 00:56:21.159
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993
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Forward slash the Bigfoot Society. I'll see you there, and again,

1001
00:56:49.800 --> 00:56:50.599
thanks for listening.

1002
00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:38.880
Her and I can get on here.

1003
00:57:38.960 --> 00:57:41.639
We can tell our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out

1004
00:57:41.639 --> 00:57:42.960
there listening that's.

1005
00:57:42.800 --> 00:57:45.840
Too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give.

1006
00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:47.480
Them the courage to come out.

1007
00:57:47.760 --> 00:57:50.239
And now it feels so bad about it, Who cares

1008
00:57:50.239 --> 00:57:51.360
what anybody thinks.

1009
00:57:51.480 --> 00:57:53.760
I know what I saw, I know what's out there.

1010
00:57:54.639 --> 00:57:55.599
That's all I care about.

1011
00:58:11.519 --> 00:58:15.039
Please let people know, Please let them know.

1012
00:58:15.320 --> 00:58:18.039
If you ever see one of these things, you need

1013
00:58:18.159 --> 00:58:21.800
to tell because if you don't, then shame on you.

1014
00:58:21.800 --> 00:58:33.599
You have. Shame on you.