45 Minutes of Pure Terror in Oregon!

0:00 You're listening to Big the Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. So settle in because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us, all right, Pick the Society get the privilege of talking to Mike today. Mike is a carpenter up there in Alaska, but he's on the show today to share an encounter that he had while el hunting down in the state of Oregon. And so welcome to the show.

0:47 Mike. How are you doing today, sir? I'm good, sir. Thank you, absolutely. We were talking a little bit before the show. This is a story you've never really shared before in this type of format. We're thankful to you for taking some time out of your day. I know it's actually a little early there where you're at feel free to take us back to when this happened for you and set the scene what was going on, and then we will chat about it afterwards. All right, thank you. I have never shared this story with anybody. I'm not in detail. I've kind of graced over it a couple of times, but never really fully got into it. So this is quite a few years ago.

1:35 Dad and I went to John Day to do some mel contient. He'd been up there before, so he knew there pretty good. I'd never been out there, but I was looking forward to it. We're going to camp out there for about a week, nice to get up to where we want to hunt. The day after we got there set up camp, Dad and I drove the spot where he had hunted before. I had walked this big game trail basically up to a certain point where he wanted to hunt, and I'm about twenty thirty minutes later, we decided to split up. He said, he's going to go up over this hill. I can fall on the trail and I'll come out in this little meadow and he'll meet me there for an hour or so. So yeah, I continued on. It's a beautiful day. The weather was good, it was early morning, no clouds, it was just a nice day. I walked it into this trail and sure enough there's this big, beautiful out fine metal, just gorgeous.

2:32 The meadow was probably one hundred yards wide by one hundred yards of all surrounded by trees for the most part. And then where I was walking out was the hill that my dad was going to come out, and it was pretty clear as I could see you along was up the hill. So I figured I'd go into this meadow, get into the tree line, and get myself ready in case maybe he picks something out. And I'm walking into this meadow. It was just beautiful. It was just nice. It was I'm walking into this meadal. About the time I get almost in the center of this meadow, I got this sensation in the pit of my gut and it started out about a marble size, kind of a burning sensation, but without the pain, without the pain. It didn't hurt, but it.

3:22 Was really warm, and the sensations is growing in my gut and it's growing outwards, and I remember it hitting my skin and then the sensation hit my spine and I'll never forget this. I can feel this thing. The sensation traveled up my spinal cord into the back of my brain, and when it hit my head, this is when things get really weird and really deep. But when it hit me call, things go through my mind first. That same time the first thing was run. It was like my inner being, my internal self is screening rock and mentally, I'm trying to figure out what's going on, what is the sensation really?

4:08 And then why am I pant? And my body it's hard. It's almost like my body my mind separated for a minute. It's not like I'm out of body experience or anything like that. It wasn't. But my physical being is screaming rock, and mentally I'm trying to figure out what's going on? Why do I feel like this? And I'm looking around trying to understand my situation. My feets are trying to move my thought. I can feel all the muscles in my body. I am I'm ready to boult. I'm trying to understand mentally what's going on. I'm having this like an eternal battle between my physical being and my mental being, my mental state, my mind. I'm trying to figure out what's going on. Why do I feel like this? I don't see anything. There's nothing obviously on body. If you can imagine a stadium full of people all pank at one time, screaming and yell and run in all different directions, that's what this was like. It wasn't immense wow, and it was my voice. It wasn't something. It wasn't somebody else's voice or something else was It was my voice and just scream and literally run. I'm standing trying to bear what's going on, and my insides are just I've got this terrible conflict going on. Finally, I remember myself just telling them myself, yes, you have us. I want to up and run. Yes, I want to get out

5:40 of here. I don't know what direction after the run in, so just chill for a sec. And as I said that, what I said sank in, and I realized I'm in a bad situation. Something's up, something's happening. And I got figured this out. I start walking these little three circles in this vallet, just so I could see all the around me to see whatever's going to come out at me. And you don't see it that when this thing hit this since they should hit my head. It was like all my senses I awaken, I can see clear, I get here, I can smell. I remember I could smell the trees. But I'm standing there and it was like my body just physically came alive. The skin is sensitive, I don't know, looks like an ancient, final primitive sensation.

6:27 My body was really fear sigh. So I'm walking these little three circles and we're trying to see catching movement or hear anything. But it was absolutely dead silence. The silence was definitely I've heard that before and never und stood it and tell them it was still quiet. There was nothing not in the squirrels, no chipmunks, no birds, nothing. There was no wind, there was no sounds. Nothing in the trees are moving and I'm really trying to maintain my composure. Part of me it's just screaming to get out. So walk in these little three sixties, just observing my environment, trying to assess my situation, try to figure out what's going on. I don't see, hear anything, so I'm trying to figure out what I'm gonna do. Like it's the part of me wants to run, but my dad and I agree to meet here. I can't leave the situation because if I'm not here when my dad goes down, he's going to worry. And I'm sure I'm not gonna leave whatever business or my dad to deal with. I'm just not going to do that. So I'm telling myself, I'm not going to run. I'm not going to die a coward's dead. I'm going to stand here. I'm going to fight this, whatever this is. I can't leave. It's just absolutely not an option. All I can do is stay in here. I can do these little three circles, and I'm watching it for my dad. Come on this field and watch it for anything to come out of the woods. Nothing's happening. My dad's not supposed to come out for another thirty forty minutes. I know I got

8:00 some time, but again, I literally I cannot gowhere. I can't leave the situation. I don't know exactly where my dad is going to come out. It's not like I'm going to walk towards it, so I don't know where it has gone. So again I'm having this huge time that my body is trying to do one thing and my mind is trying to keep me sensible and keep me aware of what's going on. I just can't do anything, just walk in these three sixties, trying and keep an eye out for everything. And I remember telling myself, I got to remember everything that's happened here and be clear, be clear. This went on for about fifteen minutes, and this is like the most terrifying fifteen minutes of my life I've ever had. Nothing's happening, and I'm trying to keep myself psyched up because I know something's going to happen, Something's going to come out, So I'm trying to go through them and the sheeting that something runs out, go through your focus to trying to run all these scenarios to me and trying to keep myself from newsom basically, which is exactly what my body has tried to do.

9:05 It's just what I don't know where those threats coming from. I don't even know what this thread is. About thirty minutes into the deal, this is extremely taxing, It's very stressful, and I don't know how much longer I can deal with this. So started getting me just basically sack myself up. The suspense is killing me. I have no idea what this is or words coming from. So I started getting bad. This is it I'm going to die. I've come to terms with that. It is what it is. Let's do this, and let's get this a little bit. I started walking wider circles, closer and closer to the tree line, trying to draw out whatever's in the trees out to me so we can get this sale over. And then I got the closer I got to the tree. I was scared, without a doubt, I was scared. And the closer you get to the trees, the worse inside. I'll get back out in the middle of the field. I remember twice I actually laid down in the field because it was some tall grass about me, the grass brown. I remember, I'll lay down the grass for a count of five, then I'll jump up and see if anything's running out at me and take a shot. The second time, the suspense is killing me. There's just no way I can do that again. So this goes on. I had to watch, so I remember the time pretty good. It was about forty five minutes later. I see my dead up on top of the hill about where he said he's going to gate. I remember watching him comes out and cluttering,

10:37 and he keeps walking trying to put some distance between him in the tree line, and then I see him coming down the hill and he's moving a pretty good clip. He's not running, but he's coming down a pretty good clip. That was my cube to go. So it was about two or three hundred yards to walk to the base of this hill where he was coming out. But the whole time I had me head on a swivel watching him, waiting to see what's going to go on. And we end up with my dad said, you're ready, he said, Yet when we turned around and we walked on the trail, we had never seen him. I got the truck to my dad. I said, Mansten, I'm gonna tell you something, the strangest thing before I continted. She said, yeah, me too, and so to talk about. But we really we had any idea with us. We didn't see anything at all.

11:28 He didn't go into a lot of detail about what he went through, and I twenty three, twenty four years old, A lot, I say, what I do is disappoint my dad. So I didn't let only explain to him just how scared I didn't take. My dad have a certain the same thing with me. He didn't want to freak me out, so he didn't tell me. He didn't go in any detail, and I didn't go unto let me tell about it. So we get back to camp. That was pretty much the end of the experience. But I remember that night we were camping, we were trying to figure out people run to stay. So we just want to call it for both of us who take time off the work, and the planets trick us a big deal. We both taken off awake of work and we're only a couple of days into it. He was like, all right, let's just get some sleep. We'll talk about in the morning and figure out what we want to do, and we might d have a sleeping in the cabin to pick up.

12:19 I was sleeping on the grass and sleeping bed and then I said he woke up mid night. He burnt something, he said, He sat up in the truck. He looked up, he says, he sees me walking around pick him up camp, trying to pack up, he said, And so me, reaching down, picked up the spare tie of the truck and throw it some twenty feet into the bed of the truck. And that's when he made up his mind that we're out here because something happened where now it's effected my sleep on sleepwalking, and I'm still even terrified on sleep I'm trying to get out of here. So that morning we did sleeping up packing and we left. On the way home, my dad told me about my sleepwalking, but that was the extent of the story. The fear. We've all been scared before, We've all had oo shit situations.

13:09 I had been off bullpens of the firearms. I had been less than twenty people. I'm a brown bear up here. I've been way too close as a full of bears up in Cattovic. Those were scary situations, but all those combined don't even become close to the level that was experience. I really hope I never experienced that. It can. Wow, my good my goodness. That is extremely intense for you to go through that for that period of time. And I want to make sure that I got what you said at the end orpe. So your father saw you walking around camp and you threw a whole tire into the back of a truck.

13:52 I did if we were in my dad's kicked up truck and we had taken a spare tire out of the bed of the truck instead of over the camp. But yeah, I will sleep. I have no memory of this whatsoever. But he said when he saw me do that, he realized that something shook me up pretty good that even in my sleep, I'm ready to go. Gotcha, what year was this again? This is what had to be right around eighty eight? Okayiny you so you said it's in the John Day area? Is it? So? I ask? I'm asking location questions because I've talked to a few other people around John Day. One individual had a similar situation where it was in a place called Strawberry Mountain outside of John Day and pretty much they the whole hunting camp and the people around they there's an unseen presence, there's moments of panic that make them leave, all that kind of stuff. So it's very interesting an unseen presence causing these really intense emotional responses to try to almost get a person to leave. And that's a little bit southwest of Strawberry Mountains. So I'm not sure if you were near that area at all, or you were actually pretty closet John Day.

15:22 I was outside of John Dale, looked, I honestly couldn't tell you. Ok gotcha, how far exactly? Okay? But I remember the sensation started in the pit of my gut. It was the weirdest thing ever. It was just like a warm It was like almost like a burning, but about the pain. It started out small and it grew out towards me skin and this thing when it hit my spine, I could deal with a sensation travel up my spine. As soon as it hit my head, it was pure chatos. Every fiber of my being was screaming to run. And I honestly I think if I can taken off run and the panic, whatever it was, and I don't know what it was, whatever it was, probably correct, right, Yeah, something was trying to make me run.

16:10 Absolutely the way you explained it, the sensation traveling up your spine. I mean, it's really similar to a few other things I've heard from people, but not out in the woods. It's how they describe it when they go back home and then they have stuff happen at home. And I remember this one guy from around Mount Rainier. I'm pretty sure he experienced a sensation but traveling up his spine like that as well. It's very interesting. During that time when you're hunting, I would imagine there's no no you weren't under any influence.

16:56 Correct, Oh, no, absolutely not. My dad and I we went hunting. We always took it serious. I was on, I had no drugs, no alcohol. We took our hunting pretty serious. Gotcha. After the days after this, did you notice any weird bruising or rashes? And I know these are really like specific questions. You can only answer them if you're comfortable, but just curious if there are any weird things that showed up in the days afterwards on on, like your legs or arms or anything like that. No, nothing like that at all. It was anything. I was trying really hard to forget it. Got Did you forget about it? But no, I don't recall anything like that.

17:43 Another interesting thing you said was how, in addition to getting these emotions of run, get out of here, you also said your senses were opened up or extremely alert, and just the way you could from what I got, the way you could hear, the way you could smell, So all of your senses were affected by this as well as what you're saying. Absolutely, it was lieter. It was like my vision everything was brighter, I could see clear, and I wasn't wearing glasses. I didn't have any for glasses, but I do recall I was like, wow, I mis got brighter. I couldn't hear anything. I could see everything, but there was no noise to hear. But yeah, even my skin felt different sensitive.

18:31 Maybe I don't know. How long did that affect to your senses last? For that sensation that started, it lasted until we got a hot way back to the truck. As far as like my vision clear stuff, I don't know. I would imagine, I don't know. There was a lot more other important things pressing on my mind at that time. I didn't pay attention to that. But by the time I got halfway to the truck, that sensation in my stomach, that whatever, I had no idea, but it stopped. It was like a burning without a pain type of one sensation. But when it was happening, it my whole body. My whole body was lit up ready to go. And the farther right away I got from that situation, the more it stopped.

19:27 And honestly, think, again, I don't know what this was. I don't know what caused it, but I think whatever it was, it caused me to panic. It also sense that I wasn't going to run, and I prepared myself to fight, and maybe that's why I up came. I don't know, but I think if I decided to run, I could have been another missing underd. Yeah, it's one of those things that really makes you wonder you hear about these. It's just the weirdest things out in Oregon, with people walking through portals on top of the mountains and things like that. So you had talked to your dad, but it sounds like there was never a time where you were able to have a really detailed conversation, Like he never really came out with what exactly happened to him, is what it sounded like.

20:22 No, No, Mike was a tough old Vietnam vet. He wasn't a very emotional guy. He just said he had something felt strange and he had a need to get out. The days after this. So were you based out of Alaska at that time or were were you based out of no at the time. I lived outside of eugen little town called No Tie, just a little logging community. Oh yeah, so it's it's by Elmira in Someone looks like. Okay, yes it is right on like twenty.

21:02 Six, gotcha, gotcha? Okay, that's cool. That's cool. The days after this happened, did you experience anything back in your home residence where you're like, it's weird, I'm thinking like this, or I'm having these thoughts come out of nowhere. Really hard to explain what's going on. Was there anything like that started to happen. No, honestly, nothing like that. Again, I think I was so determined to get this behind me that I don't remember a whole lot after that. For a while, even I don't know nothing weird.

21:42 So are you saying it's hard to remember stuff that happened after that period of time. I don't even remember the drum? Oh wow, Okay, I just I think I was just so determed to get this behind me that I forgot about it. I wanted to forget about it. Since this happened, constantly thought about that. I've never flow deep into it. I just haven't remember something happened en. Actually, but since I've known that I'm going to be on here talk to me about nedssly, it brought back the whole thing, and it's still kind of scary even today. But I think the worst part about it was how long it lasted, and not knowing what it was, I wouldn't get anything what. Was man, So I guess I'll ask you, what do you think it was that caused that reaction to you that were inside of you that day?

22:37 The only thing I can honestly say it is it was a predator, a some slot. I've listened to your shild for a couple of years now for people talk about infrasound. Back then, infra sound wasn't anything anybody talked about. It's not like there was a place to go to talk about this. And you know, the guys I was many not with at the time. I think I was this he or looney one or the other. Was just didn't really happen how to do to share this slip. But I think honestly it was a prep turn and after learning about the simp of sound, and maybe it wasn't it again. I didn't see anything, I didn't hear anything, I didn't smell anything, but something that influenced my body.

23:24 So it's weird. It's like my mind and my body that breate my I didn't have enough body, nothing like that, but my physical being was trying to do one thing and my mind was trying to keep my stuff together, but my body was physically trying to get out of there, and I said all it was just the one word, NonStop, as loud as my inner voice could be, screaming. It wasn't run because of this, run because of that. It was just run. My body did everything it could do that, But mentally I was trying to figure out what's going on, why do I feel like this and trying to keep together.

24:08 Really to me, and this is just my theory, I would agree with you. It really sounds like one of the most intense cases of infrasound that I've ever heard on the show. It is really it's a really intense one. But just the way it's weird because I mentioned it already, but the way that you explain how it traveled up your spine. Usually that's used with accounts of people being healed by bigfoot, which is so weird. Not to say that's weird, but it's just I've never seen that way of talking in an infra sound event. And maybe I haven't talked to enough people about their infrasound events. Maybe that's it.

24:55 No, I wasn't in any need of healing at the time. I was in serious need even say, this whole thing lasted about forty minutes, and that is a long time to be under a lot of stress like that. It's just the whole time I'm having this internal battle. My body is literally just screaming run the whole time. And then in my mind, I'm trying to figure out why I just I never got an answer. So after this, so I guess the way I'm thinking about it, there was a point then in your life after this that you must have started to make some connection to Okay, what was it that caused this? Was it maybe Bigfoot? Was When was that time where you started to maybe make connections about what potentially could have happened that day to you?

25:50 Probably just listening to your shows, a big Foot show. Back then, there wasn't pull any podcasts in my way up and there wasn't a big discussion form on the matter. But I've been listening to your show, I think about two few and that beers now, and I think I started hearing these different experiences people were having, and that's that's the only thing I can think of. Something literally tried to make me panic, and that's the only thing I can think of. It was I was excited about the hunt. My dad and I worked on great terms. I had no stresses in my life. Life was good. I was twenty four years old. Me and I had to work by the tail. I had nothing to be worried about at all. This really shook my world. I remember when you're that age man, you fear nothing or nobody.

26:42 But after that experience, I realized I am not the biggest status saying walking around the woods for the rifle, yeah, absolutely tell them. Myself, I was telling myself, I haven't a rifle and I could take downthing that comes out. And once I made up my mind, I wasn't gonna run, I was gonna fight. I was psyching myself, but told myself, I've got plenty of time. I'm dead center in this field. I can see all the way around me. If something comes out, I'm gonna have three and five seconds to take a good shot at whatever this is. But he even knowing me, I don't think it was enough. I was still. I was scared. I was terrified. I did not know what to do. I couldn't leave. It was the worst experience of my life.

27:25 I'm not a scutcher, so a few things have you ever gone back to that area since then. No, that was I think it was like a four four and a half hour drive from where we lived. That's why I was a big deal for us to go my dinner together. But no, I never did go back. We were out in a pretty secluded area. We only the whole time we were out there. Two days we were there. We only ran into one other person out there, and he was on horseback and he stopped the topless for a little bit. He said he was an outfitter out there guy. One of his forces out there is looking for it. But that was the only person that we saw out there the whole time.

28:08 That's interesting that he lost a course out there. Have you ever considered, potentially we're going under hypnosis to see if anything else did happen to you that day that maybe your mind is blocked out. Yeah, I'd never thought about it. Yeah, I guess that'd be curious. Maybe I'm not sure if there's something more there. If there is, if I want to know, but I've never thought about doing it now. Yeah, And that's the tricky thing. It's if there's something more that's worse than what you can remember, do you really want to bring that up. Maybe there's a reason that your buyers know you're not gonna ye.

28:51 Yeah, But at the same time, I want to know what that was that was years ago. I'm beyond that. I would like to know what it was, but I don't know. I'll never know if it was. Some people, when they have experiences like this, they'll start looking into the subject and they'll start looking into the area where they have the encounter. Is that anything that you've done where you've looked into this area in John Day and seeing if you can find any other things that have happened there related to Bigfoot? Potentially I did not. I have it now, and the whole time this has happened, it would never cross my mind. I didn't know what it was. Dared it come to mind, another human it come to mind. I don't know what it was. I never thought about bigfoot until, like I said, it started listening to your show.

29:48 That's it's first off, thank you for listening. I know it's a crazy story. It's even a crazier experience. And so the other interesting thing that you mentioned, so you've talked to you your dad about this because he was there. But this is something where you've never really talked to anyone else about this. It sounds like crap. I've never shared this whole story with anybody. This is the first time I've ever said this out loud. You know, why would it be something that you would share now, something that happened more than almost forty years ago. Really, Yeah, I don't know. Maybe somebody's got some answers for a couple of people say they tell their story and hope that somebody else will come up with their story and actually get some answers.

30:37 I don't know. I just I don't know. I just want I just want to know what this says, what happened, you know. And I man so much that someday we start getting answers. I think that there's some stuff going in the background that we might start to get answers. But it just. I think, man, it's just it's it's so weird. Where I'm thinking back again to what you said where it started as like a marble sized sensation in your stomach, and it's almost there's directed energy involved, right, because it's. Exactly it started in the center the pit of my center where it started, and I remember it was a very small sensation and growing and then when this thing get my spinal column, it didn't feel like it was going through my burgers. It felt like it would just looked through my spinal column. And when it hit the back of my head, I remembered that sensation. It was the craziest thing.

31:43 Another thing I was going to ask you is, after this happened, did you so it's never a thing you checked in with the doctor physical afterwards you were like, Hey, by the way, had this weird thing happened? It sounds like it had never come up to a medical professional. No. I don't want to sound like I'm crazy. And maybe that's one of the reasons why I've never told the story, because it is it's out there a little bit. People hear stuff like this, and they don't want to hear stuff like this. I know it's a different it's a different thing. It's not something you want to meet personally to go off bragging about. Because I was very weak that day. I never felt that terrified before. I so that was the young kind will but tell I feared nothing. I left that day very humble. It took me a while to get over that part. That was a really challenging point for me. Like I said, we do you think you're big and bad? Say to find out nothing I can get.

32:44 Absolutely, just to double check after this, So you're listening to the show, maybe checking out other things as well. Have you had any other things happened, as you said you're up in Alaska? Now, I know there are some definite things that can happen up there, but it sounds like you've been able to not really run into any issues up where you're at now. No, it's never really scared me out of the woods or anything. But I've never had any other I didn't I was followed out one time. Went Buddy and I were fish in this remote lake, but we just assumed it was a bear, and we got back to where we were camped and we got to talking about it.

33:27 I don't know we convinced ourselves that was a bipedal. It's sound that we're hearing following us out or not. But even nothing became of that, gotcha. But my dad sleephole or my dad bound some big footprints out there. They were out this is and I was still just a kid at this time, But I know my dad telling me a story about him out there around the river or lake or something found some big footprints. Yeah, with a size thirteen. He said this track was four five it's is longer and three or four inches wider than he didn't see anything, he didn't say. He's ally that he just found the big footprints. Yeah.

34:11 Absolutely. Did you say that was sweet home? Yes? Okay, Yeah, that makes total sense. That area is so extremely active, especially up by the reservoir. I don't know if it was up by that. I think that's where they were. I talked to my mom about this last night lands. She would remembered that she kind of went to the store that he found the tracks, and he wanted to go back and follow the tracks for a while, but she was scared. She said she was not going to stay there by herself with a couple of kids while he's out. On what year approximately? Do you think that would have been where he had that finding? Okay? I remember my youngest sister was born to run that.

34:53 Time, gotcha? And growing up in and I was at No Dy, Oregon, right, no tie, no tie, thank you? So growing up in No Taie, Oregon was bigfoot a thing that ever made its way into stories that you would hear maybe at school or people that you lived around things like that. Yeah, I didn't go up there. I just happened that's where I was living at the time, but I was I don't recall anybody talking about any stories at all, Big Pot. This is a big longing community. I don't recall it. Definitely. It wasn't something you hear people talking about. Never. Oh.

35:37 I never recall any conversations over here anyboy talking about. Big Absolutely and Mike this is And I just want to say thank you for sharing what you experienced that day out in the John Day area. As I said, I think it was infrasound experience and it's one of the most intense ones that I I've heard on the show so far. I do want to make sure that you were able to share everything that you had come on the show to share today. Yeah, I do. And I appreciate you listening and appreciate you like getting me an agree for laughing at me about this. I said, I struggled with us for a long time. Maybe now that I got it off my chest, I can want to let.

36:22 It go out absolutely, and I hope you do. And I know most people when they're able to have conversations like this, it can be very helpful. But if there's any other questions that you have about the subject, or are you trying to get in touch with someone, feel free to reach out. You've got my contact info now and I'll try to help you the best I can. But Mike, thank you for coming on the show and spending some time with me well during your morning, so I really appreciate it. Thank you, sir. I appreciate you letting me be on here and tell my story as well. Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that no one can explain, or if you're a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense, if you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field, or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

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