Aug. 18, 2024

9 Years of Horrifying Bigfoot Encounters in Oregon (Archive Episode)

In this episode from the Encounter Archives (9/21/23)...

Join host Jeremiah Byron on this riveting episode of the Bigfoot Society Podcast as he converses with Teia from Oregon, who recounts her almost decade-long encounters with Bigfoot. From...

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Season 1

In this episode from the Encounter Archives (9/21/23)...

Join host Jeremiah Byron on this riveting episode of the Bigfoot Society Podcast as he converses with Teia from Oregon, who recounts her almost decade-long encounters with Bigfoot. From unexplained noises and eerie smells to the heart-pounding sighting of an actual Bigfoot, Teia’s stories shed light on the mysterious happenings in the Oregon wilderness. She details her and her husband's interactions, the strange gifts they found, and the chilling nighttime experiences that led to a face-to-face encounter with a massive nine-foot creature. Dive into Teia’s emotional journey of capturing evidence, seeking validation from experts like Cliff Barackman, and ultimately, coming to terms with living among these legendary beings.

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Forward slash the Big for Society, and now let's get

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on with the show, all right, bigfot Society. We've got

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the privilege of talking to Taya tonight, and she contacted

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me from the great state of Oregon about some things

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that they've experienced over a nine year period. How's it

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going tonight, Taya.

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It's going very good.

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Physic weather, definitely perfect weather. It's starting to get a

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little bit cooler out here in Iowa, and I'm sure

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it's beautiful out there in Oregon as well. But uh,

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you know, you sent me a little bit about what

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happened is just it sounds like a fascinating story, and

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you even were able to talk with you know, Cliff

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Brickman about it, and it's just it's I can't wait

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to hear the whole story. So I'm just so glad

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that you're on the phone with me tonight.

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Well, thank you very much for having me, for inviting me.

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I really appreciate that, and it's very good to be

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able to bring it to the forefront. I listened to

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your podcast about being close in two neighborhoods and such,

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and so we were, we were out and we did

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have neighbors. We weren't right in a town or having

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a bop around like that, but we we were around neighbors.

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There were far off distant farms and such. And when

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we went there, we went there because we had decided

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we wanted to do something different. People, you know, they

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go to Yellowstone Park and their cap hosts a Yellowstone

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all the different ways in and we thought, you know,

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that might be a good adventure since we had a

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piece a r V we could be in. And we

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just fell into this kind of watch situation where we

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were watching equipment for logging and various different things going in,

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you know, on in this property, which also included that

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they would have occasional hikers come through there and so forth,

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so they wanted everything watched. And it was a really

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good feel for us because we weren't we weren't really

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we didn't feel like we were really working. We were

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all able to keep actually keep jobs outside of there

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that we were able to be up there in the

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times and the necessary times and overnight when they really

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needed us to keep an eye on things. So it

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felt pretty good. And you know, it was like you know, parents,

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you know, we were we were never actually, I need

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to digress a little bit. We never did it ever

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reveal that we ever had those experience there because of

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the various different people that would come in, and we

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did not want anybody to be fearful of anything, because

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number one, it's a forest and it has everything in it,

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you know, from bobcat bear, you know, coyote. There was

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a small bear. It was a tiny bear, but we

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had owls and everything in there that you would expect.

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there to understand that it was actually a force. It

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needed to be regarded as such so that there wouldn't

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be any surprises from any of the wild animals. And

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we tried to you know, we were there, they'd ask questions,

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but we you know, always be distracted from our job

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with geo cash and poking and folks and and you know,

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and they drop by. You know, you got a clue.

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We go once up here and and all that. And

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of course I mean we didn't because we didn't do that.

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But our adventures started in September of nine. We moved

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our we moved into the little our V site thing

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that they had set up for us. And you know,

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after living in a park for a while, a regular

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RV park, I just felt totally wonderful there because it

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was just a breath of fresh air and you know,

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having a variety of evergreens and a blend of deciduous

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great place to be, decent, quiet, no cars. So you know,

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here we are, we move in, we're just left on

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our own to explore and to find our way through

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the forest on our own. They just kind of we're

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so happy to have us. They just go, okay, here

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it is, you know, have fun basically, And so we

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started to explore, and you know, we didn't make our

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way through the forest right away. We went out and

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we watched the bluff. It was beautiful to the southwest view.

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It was just totally glorious with the sunset colors and everything.

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you know, the sun sink into the west and sizzle

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it's way out. But it wasn't dark. It was still light.

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I said, we're here, so why don't we go exploring,

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you know, And he was like, well, it's almost dark.

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by side that was left there for us to use,

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and I'd never driven a side by side. I'd driven

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a farm things and a four wheeler and things like that.

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take our first trip to the forest, not realizing that

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it was dusk up there, or not quite dusk. But

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when you get into the forest, it's like a lot darker.

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logging road thing down this hill and it's getting dark

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and we had the lights on, but I thought, well, jeez,

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these aren't these aren't bright enough. So I reached down

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and went to put the bright thaw on while my

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husband was driving, and the lights went out. So that

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was our first little adventure in the forest. I got

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I had my nag light flashlight, and I got it

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on the big spot the spotlight part, and I put

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it at the ditch and I said, okay, how you

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followed the bouncing ball. I bounced it up through the

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ditch line and we got back up around the corner

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and up there where it was safe and in our house.

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of the forest in the dark. Our next tour was

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day daylight, and you know, we went we went down

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the road and explored all the different parts of the

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area and you know, looking over everything that we needed

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to look over, and it was just, you know, a wonderful,

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beautiful place to be after a rain. It smelled like

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it smell like Christmas trees. It was so clean and

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beautiful in there. And on the weekends, you know, we'd

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go out and just sit and have our coffee on

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this deck that we kind of threw together really quick,

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right after we moved there and we fenced it in

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to be kind of a cadio so that and we

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would cook out there every night, and within within a

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few days we experienced odd noises, whistles, and a lot

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of coyote calls in all different from all different directions

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around the hill. And it was most nights, and you know,

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fall was coming fast, and as the coyotes seemed to

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quit calling and being around, dolls came out and it

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became more frequent, given kind of a haunted feeling to

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the forest. But I guess it seemed to be mating

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c's season that was upon us. And uh, but it

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just seemed like it was, you know, getting busier and

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busier with the animals outside. We would just sit out

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there and look outdoors below as we had a ah.

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It was an undeveloped part of the forest. It was

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really pretty rugged down there. It hadn't really had any

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road built into it. Anything done down there had to

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be pretty much done on foot or with some type

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of of heavy equipment, and it was pretty heavy, heavily

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forested down there, and we just you know, sit there

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and be cooking our meal, and all of a suddenly

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we got this just god awful odor, and it was

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my thought to be a dead deer, because you know,

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cougar's going through there. They're probably a cougar kill. But

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you know, my husband's very sensitive to older and he

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complained that the smell was like he and still today

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he says it was the most unclean, human running flush

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smell that he ever smelled in. And that for me,

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since it was a forest and had all the animals

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and birds, and a person would expect that perhaps there

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would be a predator in there and leave bones behind. That. Unfortunately,

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that odor made it a little unsettling because you know,

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our first days there we seemed to notice that there

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were very few deer living there, so we didn't know,

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you know, we had no idea what was what was

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going on that way. But a few days after moving in,

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and while on our our daylight side by side ride

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through miles of roads and trails, we came upon a

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rack of fresh killed deer bones in the road and

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it looked like it been boned out by by a hunter,

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like a hunter's bounty. But one thing was wrong. It

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It just wasn't how it laid there, was it right?

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It could have been dragged by a coyote because it

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found it. That it was it was boned out, but not,

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and it wasn't a complete carcass. It was boned out,

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the flesh had been taken off, that not by sharp teeth,

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and there were no knife marks in it. It seemed

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like the head had been just tore off of it.

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they're only held on by soft tissue and skin anyway,

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we were totally thinking that somebody had come in there

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and and poached the deer and then threw the bones

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out up there. But you know, with after that happened,

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each day led to it's its own strange happenings, with

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one strange thing after another, and much to our surprise,

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we found out that we had an eccentric neighbor who

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was sneaking in at night and building a fire in

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the forest and party end and in the moonlight and

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passing beer cans around in the forest. And they how

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they got in was they skinnyed by a building that

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was therefore kicking the side by in. So both like

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that and and get past that bill and they had

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this little truck. It was like ham spray painted camouflage,

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and they'd go in and swipe firewood and things like

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that as well, or be picking wildflowers at night with

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a flashlight. It's just the oddest thing. So with all

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that happening and a horse getting away, and I'm coming

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down and checking that out and wondering if we were

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hiding it. There's our little things like that. We when

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Christmas came and we started hearing noises down over the

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hill into the forest in the logging area. We were

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just for sure thinking that this person, this neighbor was

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down there on Christmas Day. So we're dressed up ready

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for Christmas dinner. We hear all this knowing I think,

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well it's Christmas. We better get the side by and

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go out and look. So we go down there. It's

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eight miles of roads and trails all around down and

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there to check out. And we got down there and

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the noise wasn't where we heard it, but it was

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above us. So I go around where that was, and

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nobody was there, and it kept doing that and playing

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with us. We believed it was her that we couldn't

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hear a vehicle. We believed it was this neighbor, and

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so we decided to instead of going the road the

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way we'd done and like we were following, we started

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cutting across and thinking, Okay, we'll run into them, we'll

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chase them out, it'll be done and we could go.

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And we were down there an hour and a half

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and we never saw one person down there that we

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heard all the noise, We heard people talking, we heard laughing,

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we heard everything. So Ill, dressed up ready to go

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to dinner, decided the heck with this. We'd just go

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on up and get in the car and lock the

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gate on our way out, and if they were in

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there and they had a vehicle in there, they'd be

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locked in. So it was after dark when we got

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home and we went with our headlights to check it out,

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and there wasn't anybody up there. It was just so

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mystifying and so weird and creepy, knowing that we were

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hearing things, people laughing and this and that, and there

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was only one way in and one way out, and

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we had locked that.

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Way for society will be right back after these messages.

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So that was the beginning of a lot of very

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weird things happening. But the weirdest thing was the nice

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that we heard far off howling. And I always referred

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to it as the House of the Baskerville because it

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was this god awful, hair raising, screaming, weird stuff. But

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still we just thought, you know, far off neighbor dogs.

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They got out there chasing around, They're barking at whatever

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and howling at whatever. We never saw, and it didn't

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go on like every night, like a dog in a

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neighborhood would see something and start barking or seeing nothing

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in park. Anyway, it happened occasionally, and when it did,

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it was just this screamy, awful, horrible thing. And I

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would say to my husband, will we live in a

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murder mountain or something, because it was just this nervous

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thing about that happening out there. So we got so

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disturbed by all of this weirdness and this neighbor driving

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in and hiding out and swiping the wood and stuff,

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that we bought a little night vision camera and didn't

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tell anybody. We didn't tell anybody about it, so we

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you know, we were blaming the neighbor for all this stuff,

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that we shouldn't just blame her. And we figured that

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some of the screaming down there that we thought was

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kids are a woman was probably a cougar screaming or

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a vixen, a female fox screaming. Because we weren't ever

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thinking we never once ever thought that we we just

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hadn't been following it. We you know, years ago, I

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heard about it, but we weren't following it. We weren't

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watching TV. We're too busy working. And it was about

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that time that we did run into finding Bigfoot people

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that the TV show, but we only got to kind

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of like look at it once in a while, and

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we still didn't cop the clue to this possibility that

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being in Bigfoot. So we kept that camera at the

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front of the house and would watch. And the first

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thing that happened was a neighbor dog come running down

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and put a sideball right up against the camera because

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it was on a tripod about two and a half

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feet off the ground, and we could see that we

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had a thirty two inch TV with that on there.

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And the next thing that we saw on there was

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a cougar's eye, and so we knew that we had

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a prowler and that it was a cougar sniffing things

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out that, you know, the cougar could have been making

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the screaming. So we never, like I say, we never

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put it up to be in Bigfoot at all. But

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there was a lot to do there with the cleanup

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of the forest and maintaining the areas, taking care of

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in our trash, and they had a pit toilet that

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they had put in there, and other there was other

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facilities there to be used too, and we would take

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care of the roads and the ditches and all the

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touch ups. And one night while we were sitting up

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at our place, we just gone in the house from

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eating out on our deck and we heard the pit

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toilet door just opening and slamming shut, and the opening

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and slamming shut and opening and slamming shut. So husband

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jumped in the side by side went down to check

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it out. There was nothing there, nothing, nothing around. He

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drove the whole area, nobody, nothing was there. So that was,

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you know, beginning to make us wonder about, you know,

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having maybe homeless people coming in there, sneaking by the

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fences or whatever, and maybe they were down there doing

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whatever that It just it just never made any sense

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to us at all. The noises, there were children laughing,

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We never found any children in the night. We heard

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an eagle cry and it's like it was flying over

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and doing its eagle call. There's no eagle been calling

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in the middle of the night that I ever ever heard.

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But you know, and doing all of our chores and everything,

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we just start watching things. And we start that watching

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tracks in the snow when the first snow came, and

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sure enough we were down near that pit toilet area

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and we found found by peetle tracks or what look

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by peetle in the snow. So we go, oh, maybe

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maybe there's something going on here, suppose we have a

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big foot. But then I got the photos off of

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my phone and blew them up on the computer, and

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you could easily see it was a bear track because

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one truck one foot went into the other foot, making

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it look like a large footprint, one large footprint. So

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we just kind of warned the loggers and the crew

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to kind of keep thanks food and things like that,

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you know, any packaging, be sure to throw it away

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and not drawn. And it was a small there, It

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was a very very small little female there, and she

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just kind of foozed through and it seemed that she

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just cruised on and we never saw any more of

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our tracks. We never we saw her one time and

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we never saw her again. And when spring rolled around,

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it it seemed to bring interlopers. We caught, you know,

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walking out and you know, out of the place early

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in the morning hours, like four point thirty in the morning.

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It was it was getting you a warm spring. Well,

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we started finding these huts and they just looked like

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those folks had made some kind of survivor a survival

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type of a place to sleep in, and you know,

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shoved a bench of leaves in it. And they kind

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of why we call them like somevible hats, is because

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they kind of looked like a fish's backbone with the

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ribs touched in the ground, and it was not like

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rib bones. And there would be one large, thicker branch

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that would be up against the tree trunk and the

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tip of it would be held together, you know, on

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the ground. It would be kind of sticking kind of

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in the ground a little bit and held down, and

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then the smaller tree branches were propped up against it

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all along the way on each side, so it just

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kind of looked like fishbone, a fishbone type thing, and

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they had stuffed a lot of leaves in it stuffed

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full of dried leaves, and you could tell that someone

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had been laighing in it. So we just assumed that

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some of these folks were sneaking in and coming up there,

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and we were, you know, finding those well, we took

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them all down because they were just kind of getting

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in the way of different things that were being done

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on the property. And we no longer got them down

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and gone, and we started finding them again, and they

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were kind of scattered all throughout the forest, and one

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was one was very odd. It actually had a black

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plastic bag stuck up in it and it didn't look

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I can't say that it really looked human name and

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others were full of like new fern bows and new

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spring shoots and things like that night and smashed down.

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Then it wasn't long after that, and the spring just

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kept us really busy, and we could hear sounds of

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children playing and people talking, and owls calling and thounds

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of eagles and everything, and there was there was no

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one in there. They couldn't be in there because they

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would have had to get past us. So I would

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say out of a four day span of the week,

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in the week we were smelling dead deer and dirty,

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stinky body odor and wet moss kind of and this

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and that, and it was we just kind of blow

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it off. It sounds weird for us to blow it off,

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but it was people were the concern, you know, for us,

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people were the concern, not dead deer. And that's what

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we still thought it was, because we hadn't convinced ourselves

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that we could be having any other kind of visitor

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except humans that would come in and be manson around curious.

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I mean, we were down on the side by one

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day in the sun and we went to land by

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and a man was laying on a rock in the sun,

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but he's arm in the air and waved at us

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and just acted like he belonged there. So we went

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up and had a visit with him, and he really

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did have too much to say, and we said suggested

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that he should probably be away from the floor. Before

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dark came. He was gone, and we never thought anything

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more about him until we found a homeless camp down

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through past some of the locked property, and by then

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it seemed as though he had vacated it. So we

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just never thought about about that again. We continued doing

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our thing cooking outside, smelling the smells. And it was

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a Saturday when my husband went. He just headed out

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to check the un developed part of the forest billow rrv.

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And he was gone for hours. I had become kind

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of nervous, totally uneven, ground overgrown, very isolated, and I

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would not have been able to hear him calling out

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to me or he even for him to get me

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on the telephone. And soon he came back and counbursting

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through the door, just breathless and excited and kind of

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freaking out all at one time. And he had a photo.

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He had photos of a foot of a footprint in

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the mud from a pond, and it was a pond.

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We had no idea was there. We had never explored that.

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That wasn't part of what anybody said that we were

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assigned to do. So we we just we just didn't.

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We just kept our nose to the grindstone and did

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what we were told to do. So he had this

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footprint in the mud, but he was so excited that

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he didn't think to put anything beside it for measurement,

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and we kept that footprint. We looked at that footprint

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for the longest time and didn't know quite what to

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do with it. But the rest of the story is

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that he found a trail that went to a pond.

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We didn't know that pond was there. And how he

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saw it was all of these saplings were broke down,

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just like someone had gone through like a tornado, making

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the swaths through these these young saplings, and they were

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all broke like six foot off in different heights like that,

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but all way up high. And he couldn't figure out

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what the foresters had done to get it that way.

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But of course until he saw the footprint, he assumed

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that the foresters did it. And nobody ever said anything

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about it. We never talked to anybody about it. And

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on his way back he said that he saw this

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cave style opening and some scrub brush and decided to

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explore it a little bit. And he said, inside it

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there was like a teepee structure. He said it was

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big enough that it would have taken men to build it.

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He said, there was no way any kids or any

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young people like we had seen going in there could

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have ever built built it. And he said the opening

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of the structure and the ground under it was frequently

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showed it been frequently used, so you know, just behind

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our house was a partially maintained Great Game trail, and

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although we didn't recommend people use it, we know that

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we heard occasional human sounding feet going by it, like

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footsteps going by it, but we could never find anything.

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So we just assumed that maybe it was you know,

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a deer or something like that going through. But you know,

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we didn't know what to do with all this exciting

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formation that he found. And then we started watching Finding

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Bigfoot and we saw Cliff on there. We saw all

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of them, of course, but Cliff was the one that

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appealed to us. So we decided that perhaps we should

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try to get a hold of him big.

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For Society will be right back after these messages.

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So we called what we saw on at the tail

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end of the show and how they ran all of

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the people that have been in it or they've been

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and so forth. We saw that there was a place

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that you could get ahold of finding Bigfoot producers or

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something like that. So we called and they were like, yeah, yeah,

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we want to we want to hear from you and everything,

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and we talked to him, but we find finally realized

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that we weren't really talking to Finding bigfoot people. We

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were talking to somebody else that had a radio station,

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a radio broadcast, And actually it didn't really help us

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find out anything except sharing other people talk about it

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the subject, and I think it made us more nervous

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about everything we had, you know, times when it was

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perfectly normal, and then other times it sounded like a

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bull crashing through the woods. We had trees being pushed

457
00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:17.920
over when there was no wind. They were falling. Whether

458
00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:20.559
they were pushed or not, I can't say. I shouldn't

459
00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:24.760
say pushed, but they were. They were crashing around us.

460
00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:29.800
And we would find trees across the road. We would

461
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:32.679
find saplings across the road. We would have to move

462
00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:37.679
them and and so forth to clean up behind, behind

463
00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:44.239
whatever was going on. And I would, you know, I

464
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:48.400
love photography. I would go down down and around into

465
00:37:48.440 --> 00:37:52.000
the forest and take my dog with me. I never

466
00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:54.920
knew who might be down there, just hays not to

467
00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:58.400
go alone, so I'd get the side by out. We'd

468
00:37:58.400 --> 00:38:01.280
go down there and I'd shoot a lot of pictures.

469
00:38:01.320 --> 00:38:06.760
There was just tons of things see and take pictures of.

470
00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:12.599
But yet my dog, my dog would get so nervous

471
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:17.280
and she would start this low growl and be looking

472
00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:22.280
behind us and nothing was over there. She would get

473
00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:25.440
so nervous some days that she'd start pulling my coat

474
00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:30.039
because she wanted to leave. So I just give in

475
00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:35.679
and get out of there and take her back. But

476
00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:39.840
one afternoon I went down into this really nice, beautiful

477
00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:47.039
place where there were lady slippers and different really kind

478
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:50.079
of exotic. It was a very magical place. There was

479
00:38:50.239 --> 00:38:53.719
kriick went by it that kind of had a deep gorge,

480
00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:57.480
There was a nice sound. It was just a beautiful

481
00:38:57.559 --> 00:39:06.239
place until it was that day. It just wasn't pretty anymore.

482
00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:09.239
And all of the hair on the back of my neck,

483
00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:14.079
everywhere on me just stood up. The smell was there,

484
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:18.960
and the field that I got, the deep feeling that

485
00:39:19.039 --> 00:39:25.239
I got inside of me, was just it was just

486
00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:29.719
so paralyzing in such a weird way that I could

487
00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:34.559
hardly get the side by and reverse and get it

488
00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:37.320
turned around to get out of there impact onto the

489
00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:44.800
main road. And after that day, I could never go

490
00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:52.079
past a certain point in that forest because it seemed

491
00:39:52.119 --> 00:39:57.280
like there was some type of mental thing that was

492
00:39:57.320 --> 00:40:02.280
stopping me. And my husband could go through there fine,

493
00:40:02.440 --> 00:40:06.159
but it seemed like I was stopped from going through there,

494
00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:11.480
and I always think back on it being because of

495
00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:17.119
my camera, because during this time of the bear being

496
00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:22.719
in there, the owner of the whole property decided to

497
00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:29.480
put a game camera in there, and I just wondered,

498
00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:36.119
in my own heart of hearts, we're bigfoot. Let's say

499
00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:40.199
that's what it was, is a bigfoot saw the infrared

500
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:47.400
in my camera and just linked it to the infrared

501
00:40:48.039 --> 00:40:54.360
eye on the game camera. That's the only thing I

502
00:40:54.400 --> 00:41:00.199
can think of for me to have done a mis justice,

503
00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:04.480
to be like stopped, like a wall was right there

504
00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:07.320
and I couldn't go past it, but I didn't dare

505
00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:10.079
go past it, and I felt the fright of it all.

506
00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:16.199
And that seems so weird to have to say this

507
00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:19.400
when I've never been afraid in the forest ever. I

508
00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:23.519
lived in the forest my whole entire life in the wilderness,

509
00:41:24.440 --> 00:41:28.440
and I was never afraid. But this I was afraid of.

510
00:41:31.559 --> 00:41:36.239
So given that, I just respected it and went on

511
00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:40.199
about my business without going through that part of the forest.

512
00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:51.599
And it was that shortly after that that we were

513
00:41:53.039 --> 00:42:00.639
in bed and we had this god awful screen and

514
00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:05.480
howling in the undeveloped part of the forest right below

515
00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:15.480
our house, and this yell scream was so incredible that

516
00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:22.639
you could feel the reverberation off of it, like like

517
00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:28.159
hitting like on the windows, is what it. It's hard,

518
00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:34.880
so hard to explain because it's like you feel it

519
00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:39.559
that it's not like hitting me that it's like the

520
00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:43.559
air was kind of pushing through our open bedroom window,

521
00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:47.840
and it felt like it was like standing right out

522
00:42:48.199 --> 00:42:56.000
outside of there, and it was so gigantic. We've heard

523
00:42:56.039 --> 00:42:59.480
a lot of now that we're now watching about Bigfoot,

524
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:05.199
we've heard several howls that sound exactly like that. And

525
00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:07.519
at first we were like, you know, what the heck

526
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:15.639
is that? And then it didn't happen again. It stopped

527
00:43:16.760 --> 00:43:21.199
and it was quiet. There was anything naked, any no

528
00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:26.360
he was out there. And about few minutes later I

529
00:43:26.400 --> 00:43:31.239
heard an answer and it was the same exact how

530
00:43:33.199 --> 00:43:37.199
and it was like sounded three or four canyons away,

531
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:41.639
but it was loud enough that you could plainly hear

532
00:43:42.519 --> 00:43:46.719
that it was exactly the same thing, like somebody else

533
00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:49.880
had answered the one that had just yelled outside of

534
00:43:49.960 --> 00:43:56.840
our house. So after that we kind of just hit

535
00:43:56.920 --> 00:44:00.559
our thing. We didn't try to make big shoe out

536
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:03.639
of it. We didn't try to go hunting for it.

537
00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:09.199
We just were reminding our own business we had been

538
00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:14.360
in the first days of being there. We had some

539
00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:17.760
apples and things that had kind of gone a little

540
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:20.280
bit pinky, and we knew deer were there, so we

541
00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:26.159
set the apples out there and let the deer have them,

542
00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:30.960
and it only happened down again. We weren't trying to

543
00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:34.840
habituate anybody or anything. We were just not I mean,

544
00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:38.719
the chipmunks, served the slugs, or whoever wanted it could

545
00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:46.239
have it. And then we started later on, after the

546
00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:51.719
howling and things had happened, I started finding things on

547
00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:58.159
my porch. There was a shard of it wasn't china,

548
00:44:58.199 --> 00:45:02.960
it was stoneware with this very old fashioned blue print

549
00:45:03.039 --> 00:45:08.320
on it, and there was a penny on There were

550
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:12.239
a couple of rocks and odd things, just odd things.

551
00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:16.559
And the only reason I think that they had their

552
00:45:16.559 --> 00:45:19.760
hands on that type of thing is because years ago

553
00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:23.639
there had been a house on that property and it

554
00:45:23.719 --> 00:45:27.039
had gotten all pushed in and kind of over into

555
00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:33.480
that undeveloped area. And honestly, we never went down there.

556
00:45:33.840 --> 00:45:37.239
The only thing I could assume is that those things

557
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:43.639
were laying on the ground right there and perhaps us

558
00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:48.679
not knowing what we were doing. We were actually trading

559
00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:54.480
drink it for drinket or something with the big Foot.

560
00:45:55.039 --> 00:45:58.760
And I just kept telling my husband and said, oh,

561
00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:02.519
look at this, ferries are coming out of our garden

562
00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:06.559
and leaving us things on our porch because we just

563
00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:11.840
weren't we weren't willing to actually accept that any of

564
00:46:11.880 --> 00:46:15.440
this could be Bigfoot. We're just like, Okay, you know,

565
00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:21.079
something really screamed, really really loud, like a siren, and

566
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:24.639
we're just going to keep on keeping on and not

567
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:29.760
worry about it until we have to. Well, in two

568
00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:34.719
thousand and seventeen is when we knew we had to.

569
00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:41.199
And actually the scream was in twenty seventeen too, about

570
00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:48.639
May somewhere there. And in June, middle of June, we

571
00:46:48.800 --> 00:46:53.000
had been away and we were coming home. It was

572
00:46:53.039 --> 00:46:59.679
about eleven thirty at night, and it was just clear,

573
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:09.760
be quiet, and we saw this weird, weirdness almost to

574
00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:13.840
our house. It was probably five hundred yards as the

575
00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:18.920
crow flies from our house, and all we could ever

576
00:47:20.679 --> 00:47:31.280
express was this this watery, this just weird, blurry, watery

577
00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:35.480
type of movement, and we kept saying it looked like

578
00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:39.199
the predator did you ever see the predator? And the

579
00:47:39.239 --> 00:47:42.440
only people we told at that time were our very

580
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:45.000
best friends, and we were scared they wouldn't believe us.

581
00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:48.320
And we said, look, we saw this thing that looked

582
00:47:48.320 --> 00:47:52.199
like the predator when it went through the forest, and

583
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:58.239
it did until it came out in the headlights. And

584
00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:01.360
before it came out, actually we saw a deer run

585
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:04.960
across the road and we saw this glarriness, and then

586
00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:09.960
we saw a big thing come out of the field.

587
00:48:11.400 --> 00:48:14.840
It took one giant step in the middle of the road.

588
00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:19.159
It turned at its waist and it looked at us,

589
00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:26.039
and its eyes were giant red like reflectors or coals

590
00:48:26.199 --> 00:48:31.280
or and and then it took another step. It stood

591
00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:36.239
on the margin of the bank to the ditch line

592
00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:42.320
and went on up past the corner fence of our

593
00:48:42.360 --> 00:48:46.519
neighbors into our neighbor's field and was just gone like

594
00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:52.440
a deer. But at that time there's enough seconds there

595
00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:59.599
that you could see that it was kind of a

596
00:48:59.719 --> 00:49:03.599
red color with like a blonde color down its back,

597
00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:15.000
and it had like dreadlocks, and it had like what

598
00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:20.199
did they called that mutton chops? I think is what

599
00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:23.159
they call it. And then a few sprigs of hair

600
00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:27.199
on one cheek that we could clearly see, and its

601
00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:32.280
hair was lode, you know, it was like dreadlocks. And

602
00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:35.760
then its arms were it had longish hair on its

603
00:49:35.880 --> 00:49:43.599
arms and everything, and it was just unbelievable how it

604
00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:47.840
just disappeared right after it looked at us. It was

605
00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:52.880
just gone. So we went back the next day after

606
00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:55.800
we did the skin pitched test all night wondering what

607
00:49:55.840 --> 00:49:59.360
the heck if we'd really seen what we'd seen, We

608
00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:03.880
questioned ourselves. Sometimes we still pushed ourselves because it was

609
00:50:03.960 --> 00:50:12.159
too unbelievable what we saw. But there were actual till

610
00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:15.280
marks in the mud on the edge of the ditch

611
00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:18.000
line where it had it dug in so deep that

612
00:50:18.079 --> 00:50:21.920
you could actually see the dampness and the dirt right there,

613
00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:26.159
and you could easily see that it was till prints.

614
00:50:27.239 --> 00:50:30.280
And we went on up where we knew that it

615
00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:33.840
had gone to, and we weren't clear, you know, that

616
00:50:33.920 --> 00:50:38.559
it totally had gone by the corner of our neighbor's fence.

617
00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:42.639
Big for Society will be right back after these messages.

618
00:50:58.679 --> 00:51:01.039
We didn't know that until the next day when we

619
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:06.920
went back up there and we found two footprints in

620
00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:10.440
the grass of all things. Nobody would believe that you

621
00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:17.119
could see big footprints in the grass, but honestly, it

622
00:51:17.159 --> 00:51:20.800
would had hit there and was heavy enough that it

623
00:51:20.840 --> 00:51:25.840
put a deep imprint into that grass, and so you

624
00:51:25.880 --> 00:51:30.559
could easily see right where it stepped twice and then

625
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:33.480
there were no more footprints to be found. Whether it

626
00:51:33.599 --> 00:51:39.400
was got into the old tree firm that was there,

627
00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:43.880
if it had just sprinted across the field, we don't know.

628
00:51:44.280 --> 00:51:55.280
But we got pictures of that. Unfortunately, those pictures were

629
00:51:56.039 --> 00:51:58.760
lost in the cell phone that we took it with

630
00:51:59.199 --> 00:52:08.440
and we never did get to recover. My husband does

631
00:52:08.480 --> 00:52:12.639
a lot of construction work. He knows measurements, and he

632
00:52:12.800 --> 00:52:17.599
said that it was easily close to nine feet tall.

633
00:52:18.599 --> 00:52:24.239
His chest was very thick. WAT estimated probably two four

634
00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:32.239
foot you know across, and I could guess in the

635
00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:37.480
light of the car headlights how much it could have weighed.

636
00:52:38.519 --> 00:52:44.719
But it was it was quite stealth. I mean, it

637
00:52:44.840 --> 00:52:53.000
was built really strong. It looked like for me, looking

638
00:52:53.039 --> 00:52:56.039
at how shiny and nice this hair was, it looked

639
00:52:56.079 --> 00:52:59.639
like it wasn't It wasn't a juvenile, but it wasn't

640
00:52:59.679 --> 00:53:07.079
all And we just can't see what we saw, and

641
00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:13.239
we want to try to share our story as best

642
00:53:13.320 --> 00:53:20.320
we could with the listeners, because it's an important thing

643
00:53:20.440 --> 00:53:24.320
to think about. If you believe that you have one

644
00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:27.280
in your yard, or you believe you have one on

645
00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:34.280
your property, it just seems best to say that they

646
00:53:34.639 --> 00:53:40.199
can be very stealth. We know for fact that with

647
00:53:40.679 --> 00:53:47.440
all of the smell through the forest that we were

648
00:53:47.480 --> 00:53:53.559
constantly being monitored, maybe there was one, Maybe there were

649
00:53:53.719 --> 00:54:01.719
war What were the children laughing? What was all the jibberish?

650
00:54:02.119 --> 00:54:06.079
Was it Chinese and Japanese people walking and hiking through

651
00:54:06.119 --> 00:54:12.800
there with kriek running? Who could say that this is

652
00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:19.199
what we heard and experienced. And we feel that if

653
00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:24.320
we were paralleled through all of the trails, and if

654
00:54:24.360 --> 00:54:28.800
we were teased at Christmas time like we believe now

655
00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:35.480
we were, anybody could be grabbed at any time, if

656
00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:41.639
that was the idea, or could be the idea of

657
00:54:41.800 --> 00:54:46.519
something to be doing, especially when there's nobody else around.

658
00:54:50.159 --> 00:54:56.360
Just a couple of nights ago, we were watching the

659
00:54:56.440 --> 00:55:03.239
one year Remembrance of Carrying Our Arnold. We just happened

660
00:55:03.280 --> 00:55:07.719
to come across Hidden Existence and there was a gentleman

661
00:55:07.800 --> 00:55:11.239
on there that said, you need to be aware of

662
00:55:11.760 --> 00:55:18.719
Bigfoot because Bigfoot has one occupation and that is to survive,

663
00:55:20.239 --> 00:55:23.519
and to survive he has to be a killer. Is

664
00:55:23.559 --> 00:55:30.519
not just eating grubs and roots, that he is eating

665
00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:36.079
deer and other things, and that humans should be just

666
00:55:36.159 --> 00:55:40.119
as aware of the danger as any of the deer are.

667
00:55:41.320 --> 00:55:43.639
And that made a lot of sense, because at any

668
00:55:43.719 --> 00:55:48.159
one time, when we were busy with leaving the side

669
00:55:48.199 --> 00:55:51.960
by running, we could have never heard him sneak up

670
00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:55.280
on us. We never heard him when we knew they

671
00:55:55.320 --> 00:55:59.400
were there. We would hear the whistles when we knew

672
00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:03.239
they were there when we were cooking. There was one

673
00:56:03.280 --> 00:56:09.000
whistle that was a constant whistle. It sounded like a bird,

674
00:56:10.159 --> 00:56:13.119
and I will whistle back to it, thinking it was

675
00:56:13.159 --> 00:56:17.800
a bird, and we just would go it would whistle,

676
00:56:17.880 --> 00:56:24.920
I'd whistle, and then about I don't know a year,

677
00:56:25.559 --> 00:56:29.960
two years after we moved away from there, I told

678
00:56:29.960 --> 00:56:32.119
my husband, I said, you know the funny thing about

679
00:56:32.119 --> 00:56:35.559
that whistle and that bird? He said yeah. I said,

680
00:56:36.079 --> 00:56:38.480
did you ever notice that there were no other birds

681
00:56:38.480 --> 00:56:43.000
whistling that way? There was only it and me. There

682
00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:46.920
were no other birds that sounded that way. And we'd

683
00:56:46.960 --> 00:56:52.400
heard about so many whistles. Some people on all the

684
00:56:52.400 --> 00:56:57.159
different Bigfoot shows that now we know that that's probably

685
00:56:57.199 --> 00:57:01.199
what it was. There were so many things that we

686
00:57:01.199 --> 00:57:06.679
were so naive about. We never thought about Bigfoot. We

687
00:57:06.840 --> 00:57:10.719
never watched the shows about Bigfoot until we moved away

688
00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:15.239
from there. And now it's been four years and we're

689
00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:22.719
still hearing people repeat things on the Bigfoot podcasts and

690
00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:28.519
videos that we've said ourselves. It's it's like listening to

691
00:57:28.599 --> 00:57:32.719
our recording of ourselves over and over and over about

692
00:57:32.760 --> 00:57:40.760
the trauma, about the spookiness, the noises, to take out calls,

693
00:57:41.880 --> 00:57:53.280
to shake eagle calls. It's it's unbelievable, what what can

694
00:57:53.679 --> 00:57:59.440
come to you this this long and time later, Four years,

695
00:57:59.480 --> 00:58:04.400
I think is a long time, and we weren't We

696
00:58:04.400 --> 00:58:11.800
were like traumatized then, but it seems like we're still

697
00:58:12.280 --> 00:58:17.400
traumatized from it because now we have dreams about it

698
00:58:17.440 --> 00:58:23.440
that we never had before. So it's good to kind

699
00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:27.480
of listen to what everybody has to say, share your

700
00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:31.559
words in your experience with other people. Someday we'll get

701
00:58:31.559 --> 00:58:36.599
to the bottom of this. Someday we'll all know what

702
00:58:36.639 --> 00:58:42.079
it is. And you know, Scott Carpenter's in heaven now

703
00:58:42.119 --> 00:58:47.039
he knows probably he's probably got his answers carry armand's

704
00:58:47.079 --> 00:58:50.800
in heaven now too, probably the only ones with the

705
00:58:50.920 --> 00:58:55.920
answers right now that we're all hoping to get there,

706
00:58:55.960 --> 00:58:59.599
and we're all hoping to find out and find out

707
00:58:59.639 --> 00:59:04.639
in us scientific way without needing to take one of

708
00:59:04.679 --> 00:59:13.760
these creatures out. And I appreciate beings and invite it

709
00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:19.440
on the show to share my words and get my

710
00:59:19.559 --> 00:59:20.239
story out.

711
00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:27.239
Tayo, thank you so much for sharing what you both experience.

712
00:59:27.320 --> 00:59:30.400
It's it's an incredible account. Do you mind if I

713
00:59:30.440 --> 00:59:32.920
ask you a few questions about what you shared?

714
00:59:34.599 --> 00:59:39.039
I actually would love it, because awesome. In trying to

715
00:59:39.400 --> 00:59:47.239
like not get too long and drawn out on everything there,

716
00:59:48.280 --> 00:59:52.039
I have a journal and I kind of tried to

717
00:59:52.079 --> 00:59:56.000
do a synopsis to the highlights and the things that

718
00:59:56.119 --> 01:00:00.559
I thought people would be interested and hearing about. So

719
01:00:00.599 --> 01:00:03.960
if you can ask me questions, it might really help

720
01:00:04.119 --> 01:00:08.400
to get more Or are the important things out?

721
01:00:09.599 --> 01:00:12.639
Yeah, just a few things that I'm kind of curious about.

722
01:00:14.679 --> 01:00:16.559
So when you had the sighting of the big Foot,

723
01:00:16.599 --> 01:00:18.599
were you able to get a really good look at

724
01:00:18.639 --> 01:00:19.119
its face?

725
01:00:19.199 --> 01:00:27.280
Then? Yeah, it had it had kind of a mud

726
01:00:27.360 --> 01:00:31.480
colored face, you know, in the headlights. It was hard

727
01:00:31.519 --> 01:00:34.239
to tell if it was gray because the headlights were

728
01:00:34.239 --> 01:00:36.239
glowing right on its face.

729
01:00:36.920 --> 01:00:40.199
Big for Society will be right back after these messages.

730
01:00:55.679 --> 01:00:58.320
That it seemed like it. If it was daylight, it

731
01:00:58.320 --> 01:01:04.840
would probably won't be more towards the gray. But it

732
01:01:04.960 --> 01:01:12.039
had very a huge head, absolutely a huge head, and

733
01:01:12.079 --> 01:01:17.880
the eyes were spread quite far apart. And when I

734
01:01:17.960 --> 01:01:22.519
say they looked like coals, they were big like that.

735
01:01:22.840 --> 01:01:26.840
They were big, and they glowed, they glowed this red.

736
01:01:26.920 --> 01:01:32.079
It's so weird how he kept saying it's the eyes,

737
01:01:32.119 --> 01:01:35.800
and I kept saying, trying to say, no, it's just

738
01:01:36.079 --> 01:01:40.400
some reflectors down the road, and it wasn't, and I

739
01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:44.599
knew it wasn't. But it looked like very dark red

740
01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:49.239
and just kind of shined out like it just glowed

741
01:01:49.280 --> 01:01:54.840
from the center out, getting like the orange color as

742
01:01:54.880 --> 01:01:59.519
it came out, and it had more of it, and

743
01:01:59.639 --> 01:02:06.000
how and the quicklick we had, I would say it

744
01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:09.880
it wasn't ugly at all. It had more like it

745
01:02:10.039 --> 01:02:14.519
had the really deep the big brow ridge and the

746
01:02:14.599 --> 01:02:18.639
eyes were going so big you could you know, see

747
01:02:18.719 --> 01:02:24.480
down onto its cheeks a bit. But it its mouth

748
01:02:24.639 --> 01:02:28.039
was just a slit. It just turned and it looked

749
01:02:28.079 --> 01:02:31.800
at us. It glared. It couldn't it couldn't turn its head.

750
01:02:32.719 --> 01:02:35.840
Its neck was really thick. It couldn't turn its head.

751
01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:41.320
So as it was stepping, it was, you know, thrusting

752
01:02:41.920 --> 01:02:45.800
like the right arm up and it turned at the

753
01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:49.400
waist with its like its left arm was kind of

754
01:02:49.440 --> 01:02:53.119
behind it, and turned at the waist, looked at us

755
01:02:53.360 --> 01:03:00.760
for half a second or something. Find enough, and it

756
01:03:00.800 --> 01:03:06.400
turned back and it took its other step, slid and

757
01:03:06.679 --> 01:03:10.079
was gone up into the darkness behind the tree trunks

758
01:03:10.159 --> 01:03:16.519
and into the field. And it wasn't you know, I

759
01:03:16.519 --> 01:03:19.599
can't say it was necessarily pretty, but I can't say

760
01:03:19.679 --> 01:03:23.519
that it was like something. I mean, I was in

761
01:03:23.599 --> 01:03:28.239
my car, you know, and it didn't look like an

762
01:03:28.320 --> 01:03:33.039
ugly monster. It just was a tall, hairy creature with

763
01:03:33.239 --> 01:03:38.920
red blueing eyes that looked at us and kept going going,

764
01:03:39.840 --> 01:03:43.760
And we think what happened is I mean we saw

765
01:03:44.199 --> 01:03:48.719
cloaking or what now we assume as cloaking because of

766
01:03:48.800 --> 01:03:53.880
the words we've heard that it was like predator moving

767
01:03:53.960 --> 01:03:56.000
and it kept going what is that? What is that?

768
01:03:56.199 --> 01:03:58.880
And this deer came out and went across the road

769
01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:03.239
and it came out behind it and we think it

770
01:04:03.360 --> 01:04:07.800
made a mistake and it just got caught in our headlights,

771
01:04:07.920 --> 01:04:10.440
which it wasn't expecting to do, and then it turned

772
01:04:11.199 --> 01:04:16.559
and left at it and the left. So I don't know.

773
01:04:16.760 --> 01:04:18.119
Does that answer your question?

774
01:04:18.280 --> 01:04:22.599
Yeah, I know that definitely does. If you had to

775
01:04:22.679 --> 01:04:26.159
classify the creature, would you put it more into category

776
01:04:26.280 --> 01:04:29.320
of something that was ape like or maybe something more

777
01:04:29.599 --> 01:04:32.239
human like based on what you.

778
01:04:32.199 --> 01:04:41.559
Saw on its face. It's when it turned its face, like,

779
01:04:41.639 --> 01:04:46.079
its nose and its cheekbones and stuff looked more human

780
01:04:46.199 --> 01:04:51.039
not ape. And I don't recall that it had the

781
01:04:51.159 --> 01:04:54.440
sadgittal crest, that it was dark behind it, you know,

782
01:04:54.559 --> 01:04:58.199
we had the headlights on it. The hair would like

783
01:04:58.280 --> 01:05:01.039
I said, it was long rockstar like a hair and

784
01:05:01.119 --> 01:05:04.119
away and it was like dreadlocks. But the rest of

785
01:05:04.159 --> 01:05:08.840
the body was shiny and clean. Its arms were huge,

786
01:05:10.559 --> 01:05:16.000
Its thighs were huge. It's from like the foot up

787
01:05:16.039 --> 01:05:19.920
to the knee wasn't real long. It was the length

788
01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:22.599
of its height I think would have come from the

789
01:05:22.679 --> 01:05:26.280
hip to the knee. That's how it looked like it

790
01:05:26.360 --> 01:05:33.199
was built in the desk that I can describe from

791
01:05:33.800 --> 01:05:39.079
like they say, you know, in the headlights. It that

792
01:05:39.320 --> 01:05:43.360
side of it was like really long from the hip

793
01:05:43.480 --> 01:05:46.400
down to the knee and the knee and the calfs

794
01:05:46.679 --> 01:05:52.079
that me from the knee down to the to the feet,

795
01:05:52.280 --> 01:05:54.719
which I couldn't really see the feet, but the calf

796
01:05:54.800 --> 01:05:59.199
of the leg I remember, was like real like that

797
01:05:59.559 --> 01:06:02.920
rock there or something, you know, And I suppose that's

798
01:06:02.960 --> 01:06:09.519
the musclefflex from the running. But we just know what's

799
01:06:10.079 --> 01:06:13.960
you know, kind of ingrained in our brain that it's

800
01:06:14.039 --> 01:06:17.320
something like I said, we can't see it, that's there,

801
01:06:17.400 --> 01:06:23.119
It's always going to be there. And a lot of

802
01:06:23.119 --> 01:06:28.079
the weird weirdness that happened was perfectly explainable once we

803
01:06:28.119 --> 01:06:29.000
saw it that night.

804
01:06:31.320 --> 01:06:34.639
Oh absolutely, Did you said that you saw it kind

805
01:06:34.639 --> 01:06:37.280
of go over to the neighbor's property. Did you ever

806
01:06:37.320 --> 01:06:39.079
go over and talk to the neighbors about it?

807
01:06:40.679 --> 01:06:44.920
No, we never talked to anybody about it, sure because

808
01:06:47.320 --> 01:06:53.280
we were because we saw something that our brains weren't

809
01:06:53.320 --> 01:06:56.760
ready to see, I think, and it was hard enough

810
01:06:56.800 --> 01:07:00.320
for us. I mean, we talked about it with ourselves

811
01:07:00.480 --> 01:07:06.679
over and over and over and over and trying to say, well,

812
01:07:06.800 --> 01:07:09.800
this was our reality, is this what we saw? And

813
01:07:09.840 --> 01:07:12.519
we kept going over and over it, and the only

814
01:07:12.599 --> 01:07:19.320
people that we ever shared it with for these four

815
01:07:19.400 --> 01:07:23.559
years until we went and saw Cliffs. As you said

816
01:07:23.719 --> 01:07:29.079
in the introduction, we didn't tell anybody because we didn't

817
01:07:29.079 --> 01:07:35.000
trust that we wouldn't be ridiculed, and given our professions

818
01:07:35.039 --> 01:07:37.559
and this and that, we really didn't want to put

819
01:07:37.599 --> 01:07:42.199
ourselves out there that way. And our friends had been

820
01:07:42.239 --> 01:07:46.199
our best friends for years, so they believed this, and

821
01:07:46.599 --> 01:07:49.039
they're the only ones that we could ever really talk to.

822
01:07:49.280 --> 01:07:59.840
But we did get up enough courage to go over

823
01:08:00.159 --> 01:08:06.559
to the North American Bigfoot Museum. When Cliff first got

824
01:08:06.599 --> 01:08:09.599
that going, it was when he was still breaking ground

825
01:08:09.599 --> 01:08:14.760
on the museum part. It had his his gift shop opened,

826
01:08:16.279 --> 01:08:19.880
and they weren't really busy when we popped in that

827
01:08:20.039 --> 01:08:24.960
day and we said, hey, you know, we don't want

828
01:08:25.000 --> 01:08:28.680
to bother you. He felt shy about it that he

829
01:08:28.920 --> 01:08:31.680
was there, and he's the only one we knew that

830
01:08:31.800 --> 01:08:37.359
had been out there researching and had and I've closed

831
01:08:37.439 --> 01:08:39.880
enough to us that we could actually take our evidence

832
01:08:40.000 --> 01:08:44.359
to him and have him looked at it. And he

833
01:08:44.399 --> 01:08:49.039
looked at the footprint in the mud, and he could

834
01:08:49.119 --> 01:08:53.520
see that that the break was there, everything was there,

835
01:08:53.800 --> 01:08:59.720
and he said yes, absolutely. In his educated mind, he

836
01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:02.680
believe that that was a big foot track, and he

837
01:09:02.920 --> 01:09:05.520
liked it well enough to ask us if he could

838
01:09:06.479 --> 01:09:10.680
please have a print of it so that he could

839
01:09:11.079 --> 01:09:14.479
frame it to put it in his museum, which is

840
01:09:14.520 --> 01:09:20.600
what we granted, because we we wanted to let people

841
01:09:20.720 --> 01:09:25.199
know because we lived close enough to Mount Hood and

842
01:09:25.279 --> 01:09:29.359
close enough to the National Force and so forth like

843
01:09:29.479 --> 01:09:35.520
that that you know, people you know, coming through anywhere

844
01:09:35.520 --> 01:09:37.880
in that part and they could see that footprint where

845
01:09:37.880 --> 01:09:41.479
it came from and so forth and have an idea

846
01:09:41.800 --> 01:09:45.359
that what's out there. You know, we were very we've

847
01:09:45.359 --> 01:09:51.720
been very very secretive over our location because there's just

848
01:09:53.880 --> 01:09:57.359
too many people that want to find out and go

849
01:09:58.439 --> 01:10:03.720
where they been sighted and in our case, it wouldn't

850
01:10:03.760 --> 01:10:06.680
have been a healthy thing for anybody to do because

851
01:10:07.560 --> 01:10:09.760
you know, you can't get in the mix with loggers

852
01:10:09.800 --> 01:10:13.039
and logging equipment and things like that. It just would mix.

853
01:10:13.279 --> 01:10:17.479
So we've never disclosed the location. Our best friends knew

854
01:10:17.560 --> 01:10:20.520
because they know where we lived, but we just we

855
01:10:20.640 --> 01:10:24.119
never had company, we did. We were just out in

856
01:10:24.159 --> 01:10:36.479
the woods, you know. Yeah. So I I just hope

857
01:10:36.760 --> 01:10:40.880
with all my hopes that people if they if they

858
01:10:40.960 --> 01:10:45.279
see him, you know, don't try to chase them around,

859
01:10:45.399 --> 01:10:50.680
and just try not to get traumatized by him. I

860
01:10:50.720 --> 01:10:55.840
think I have to say, you know, in uh, the

861
01:10:56.000 --> 01:11:03.560
time after the fact we lived there in twenty eighteen,

862
01:11:04.640 --> 01:11:08.000
that was kind of the gig was up for doing

863
01:11:08.159 --> 01:11:12.800
the project that we've been invited to be part of,

864
01:11:13.119 --> 01:11:24.159
for everything we were doing, and so we we our

865
01:11:24.199 --> 01:11:27.840
gig was up, and we moved on with our fifth wheel,

866
01:11:27.880 --> 01:11:34.199
and in two thousand and twenty we were caught up

867
01:11:34.239 --> 01:11:41.520
in the wildfires up there and in the area up

868
01:11:41.560 --> 01:11:45.800
the Colocamus River, and so I kind of believed that

869
01:11:45.920 --> 01:11:51.399
the two traumas together kind of had magnified a little

870
01:11:51.479 --> 01:11:58.159
bit to how we feel about, you know, how we

871
01:11:58.199 --> 01:12:04.199
saw that and then how we've now are kind of

872
01:12:04.319 --> 01:12:08.079
having to deal with it. And the fire thing. I

873
01:12:08.079 --> 01:12:11.920
think the fire just kind of crashed into what we

874
01:12:11.960 --> 01:12:16.039
were already dealing with, you know that trying to be

875
01:12:16.119 --> 01:12:20.439
realistic about everything. We're just working through it and listening

876
01:12:20.479 --> 01:12:25.960
to what we can find out, and we're sharing with you,

877
01:12:27.560 --> 01:12:33.239
and we shared with Cliff, and we feel like what

878
01:12:33.279 --> 01:12:35.520
we saw is what we saw. But you're you know,

879
01:12:35.600 --> 01:12:39.319
it doesn't matter. I'll tell you what unless you're a

880
01:12:39.359 --> 01:12:43.199
courageous guy and you believe with all your heart they're

881
01:12:43.199 --> 01:12:45.920
not going to hurt you. If you see one, you're

882
01:12:45.960 --> 01:12:48.439
probably going to be doing the skin pinched test, just

883
01:12:48.600 --> 01:12:51.359
like we are, because it's still hard to believe that

884
01:12:51.439 --> 01:12:52.159
we saw it.

885
01:12:52.159 --> 01:12:56.720
You know, absolutely, And it sounds you get I agree

886
01:12:56.760 --> 01:13:00.560
you have been through so much with both such yous,

887
01:13:00.640 --> 01:13:05.479
but I'm it sounds like you are definitely starting to

888
01:13:05.560 --> 01:13:10.000
get a handle on what happened, and this is probably

889
01:13:10.039 --> 01:13:13.520
helping being able to talk about it as well. There

890
01:13:13.600 --> 01:13:17.920
was another thing that you mentioned really quickly, and you

891
01:13:18.039 --> 01:13:20.920
talked about how you heard people at certain points or

892
01:13:20.920 --> 01:13:23.800
what sounded like people, and at one point you said

893
01:13:24.079 --> 01:13:28.399
it kind of sounded like maybe a Chinese or Japanese language.

894
01:13:28.560 --> 01:13:31.560
So whenever you heard people, was did it kind of

895
01:13:31.600 --> 01:13:36.319
sound like a language type like that type of language or.

896
01:13:37.840 --> 01:13:43.560
Yeah? Actually, actually there were a couple things that happened.

897
01:13:43.640 --> 01:13:50.279
I was down doing some photography and which I'd totally

898
01:13:50.319 --> 01:13:53.720
love to do that if I had a day off

899
01:13:54.039 --> 01:13:57.800
from work and was on the job there, I'd go

900
01:13:57.920 --> 01:14:01.159
down and get a photography. And I was down there,

901
01:14:01.199 --> 01:14:04.600
it was quiet, everything stopped making a noise. We had

902
01:14:04.640 --> 01:14:07.800
tree frogs and we had birds everything. All of a sudden,

903
01:14:07.840 --> 01:14:13.920
everything went quiet, and somebody goes, Okay, oh my god,

904
01:14:14.960 --> 01:14:18.439
where's that. I looked all around and there was nothing

905
01:14:18.520 --> 01:14:23.239
there but my dog, who was my partner, was sitting

906
01:14:23.239 --> 01:14:28.039
there shivering like she was in an ice bath, and

907
01:14:28.920 --> 01:14:31.600
it creaked me out, tou So I thought, okay, well,

908
01:14:31.600 --> 01:14:36.640
maybe we've just better wander on back up to our house.

909
01:14:37.359 --> 01:14:41.199
But yes, it sounded we had there was a creek there,

910
01:14:41.359 --> 01:14:47.039
and so it and there were you know, a lot

911
01:14:47.079 --> 01:14:50.920
of different foreign people would come visit friends and friends

912
01:14:51.000 --> 01:14:55.760
knew that that place where they would allow when there

913
01:14:55.800 --> 01:14:58.600
were workers in there, that they could walk through or

914
01:14:58.680 --> 01:15:02.199
hike or whatever. That if you were near the cry,

915
01:15:03.119 --> 01:15:08.680
anybody speaking English or otherwise could sound really garbled. And

916
01:15:08.720 --> 01:15:11.000
so I just assumed that that's what it was. But

917
01:15:11.920 --> 01:15:16.960
we heard at night, at dusk, just before it's getting dark,

918
01:15:17.600 --> 01:15:21.039
we could hear children playing down there. We could hear

919
01:15:21.079 --> 01:15:28.640
them laughing. We could go up onto this. We were

920
01:15:28.720 --> 01:15:31.479
up on kind of a mountain and there was this

921
01:15:31.600 --> 01:15:33.920
gnole there that we could get on. We could watch

922
01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:39.279
the sunset and sound carries uphill, and we could hear

923
01:15:39.640 --> 01:15:46.279
children down by the restrooms playing and giggling and laughing,

924
01:15:46.359 --> 01:15:48.600
and we get the side by side out and go

925
01:15:48.840 --> 01:15:52.479
down there to track to see what family was in there,

926
01:15:52.520 --> 01:15:57.399
and there was never anybody there. The same with the

927
01:15:57.600 --> 01:16:05.279
door to the privy slam bang, slam bang, and went

928
01:16:05.359 --> 01:16:09.760
down there to check nobody was there. Honest to goodness,

929
01:16:09.920 --> 01:16:15.720
nobody was there. I used to I have kind of

930
01:16:15.720 --> 01:16:19.399
the sixth sense about things, and I used to feel

931
01:16:19.439 --> 01:16:22.399
like I was being watched, which a lot of people do,

932
01:16:23.239 --> 01:16:26.439
you know, but I would feel it, particularly at night.

933
01:16:27.159 --> 01:16:29.920
Big for Society will be right back after these messages,

934
01:16:46.920 --> 01:16:47.239
and I.

935
01:16:47.319 --> 01:16:50.119
Used to feel like one of them was just sitting

936
01:16:50.119 --> 01:16:53.520
out there under a tree beside the house. And I

937
01:16:53.600 --> 01:16:59.359
know it could be my imagination, but that was when

938
01:16:59.399 --> 01:17:03.720
I started. And then, of course, well my husband. I

939
01:17:03.800 --> 01:17:07.079
never brought this up in the story, but my husband

940
01:17:07.119 --> 01:17:10.960
we had three plum trees that have been growing there

941
01:17:10.960 --> 01:17:15.920
because of that out home that had been there, and

942
01:17:15.960 --> 01:17:20.319
they were ancient because that place was ancient. And he

943
01:17:20.439 --> 01:17:22.600
found these pum trees, so he went out and cleaned

944
01:17:22.640 --> 01:17:25.439
up all around under him, and the next day he

945
01:17:25.600 --> 01:17:27.760
was going to go out and pick him. And this

946
01:17:27.960 --> 01:17:31.239
is the God's truth when he got out there, there

947
01:17:31.319 --> 01:17:36.039
was not one plumb left on any of those three trees,

948
01:17:36.119 --> 01:17:40.399
not one. He said, what was on the ground had

949
01:17:40.680 --> 01:17:44.000
ants on it, that there were no good ones left

950
01:17:44.000 --> 01:17:47.399
in the tree at all. And it was the weirdest thing,

951
01:17:47.640 --> 01:17:50.000
you know. It was just something that we still talk

952
01:17:50.079 --> 01:17:53.960
about how he prepared all of that to go pick

953
01:17:54.039 --> 01:17:58.479
the plums and there wasn't one left there to the

954
01:17:58.520 --> 01:18:01.960
top of the trees there, real tall, but clear to

955
01:18:02.039 --> 01:18:07.119
the top of the trees, you know. And here in

956
01:18:08.880 --> 01:18:12.600
falls going past our house, you know, and thinking somebody

957
01:18:12.640 --> 01:18:15.159
has come in there and they're messing around. And then

958
01:18:15.840 --> 01:18:18.439
he heard noise out there, and he went out the

959
01:18:18.479 --> 01:18:24.359
door and I heard whatever it was take off. It

960
01:18:25.600 --> 01:18:28.800
was going through the woods like crazy. You could feel

961
01:18:28.800 --> 01:18:33.439
it hit in the ground. And he came back in

962
01:18:33.520 --> 01:18:37.079
the house and I said, jeez, I said, I'd never

963
01:18:37.239 --> 01:18:39.720
take you hunting unless I had your dog a dear

964
01:18:39.880 --> 01:18:43.359
for me, because you made so much noise going through

965
01:18:43.399 --> 01:18:48.359
that brush that, you know, I can hear you all

966
01:18:48.399 --> 01:18:51.079
the way down to the road. So that wasn't me,

967
01:18:52.039 --> 01:18:54.640
he said, that was whatever would had been in the

968
01:18:54.760 --> 01:18:59.000
road or in the yard ahead of me going through there.

969
01:18:59.560 --> 01:19:04.439
So whatever that was only God knows. We're not going

970
01:19:04.479 --> 01:19:07.279
to try to label it. But you know, everybody says

971
01:19:07.279 --> 01:19:11.399
bigfoot is quiet. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't, maybe

972
01:19:11.399 --> 01:19:13.319
he is part of the time, and maybe if you

973
01:19:13.399 --> 01:19:15.840
gets scared, he makes a lot of noise running away.

974
01:19:15.960 --> 01:19:20.720
You know, sure, yeah, but it you know, it happened.

975
01:19:20.760 --> 01:19:26.359
It's just it's just so it's so mysterious, and we

976
01:19:26.520 --> 01:19:30.239
keep saying why us. I mean, we weren't. We had

977
01:19:30.279 --> 01:19:33.199
no idea, we had no clue at all. We were

978
01:19:34.560 --> 01:19:37.960
I almost feel like I've had to tell this story

979
01:19:38.039 --> 01:19:41.479
backwards instead of saying, jeez, in two thousand and seventeen,

980
01:19:41.600 --> 01:19:45.760
we had this you know, predator thing and then this bigfoot,

981
01:19:46.119 --> 01:19:50.000
the deer chasing the deer and all this and blah

982
01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:54.720
blah blah. But no, you know, I feel like it's

983
01:19:54.760 --> 01:19:58.319
all backwards because how it started out and how we

984
01:19:58.560 --> 01:20:03.840
never won time. I never thought of a bigfoot, not once.

985
01:20:04.920 --> 01:20:08.800
And like I said, living in the wilderness like I did,

986
01:20:09.359 --> 01:20:13.760
I never I'd never thought about bigfoot at all. I mean,

987
01:20:14.279 --> 01:20:16.720
people were what you looked out for. You didn't look

988
01:20:16.800 --> 01:20:20.279
out for the animals. Usually they are afraid of you.

989
01:20:20.439 --> 01:20:23.680
They minded their business, You minded yours and all that stuff,

990
01:20:23.760 --> 01:20:30.760
you know, and and then later since all of this,

991
01:20:31.119 --> 01:20:35.560
looking back onto my experiences there, I know that there

992
01:20:35.640 --> 01:20:40.520
was a bigfoot there too, and that makes me feel

993
01:20:40.600 --> 01:20:46.119
like I'm even crazier knowing that some of the noises

994
01:20:46.159 --> 01:20:48.920
and sounds I heard there were just exactly like what

995
01:20:49.640 --> 01:20:54.479
I've heard other people described and heard the recordings that

996
01:20:54.560 --> 01:20:58.399
people have made, you know, and it's just it's just weird.

997
01:20:58.439 --> 01:21:02.920
But it's my experience and nothing happened to me, and

998
01:21:05.119 --> 01:21:08.840
I guess I'm richer for it that I had this

999
01:21:09.000 --> 01:21:13.439
experience in my husband and I had this experience, and

1000
01:21:14.520 --> 01:21:16.439
you know, I went through all the things that some

1001
01:21:16.560 --> 01:21:21.960
people go through, Like some people say, well they're from benefelen.

1002
01:21:22.399 --> 01:21:26.119
Other people have other ideas, you know, about paranormal stuff.

1003
01:21:27.479 --> 01:21:32.960
I don't know what I want to think about it,

1004
01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:37.359
but at one point in my feelings about it, I

1005
01:21:37.399 --> 01:21:41.800
was just like rebuking it because I didn't know if

1006
01:21:41.800 --> 01:21:47.479
it was evil or if it was alien like anybody says,

1007
01:21:47.800 --> 01:21:54.239
or if it was actual creature animal existence like Cliff

1008
01:21:54.600 --> 01:22:01.119
and the researchers believe. There's all different thought. And I

1009
01:22:01.159 --> 01:22:03.800
got to the point where it was kind of bugging me.

1010
01:22:03.840 --> 01:22:06.920
So much. I just said go away. I didn't see you.

1011
01:22:07.000 --> 01:22:10.640
I don't want to know about you, you know. And

1012
01:22:11.000 --> 01:22:13.640
my husband's not that way. I mean he'll sit and

1013
01:22:13.720 --> 01:22:19.840
watch different stuff and all that, you know. But you know,

1014
01:22:20.159 --> 01:22:23.479
I don't. I don't think that I've ever been considered

1015
01:22:23.600 --> 01:22:28.800
enough to think that we're the only thing. Humans and

1016
01:22:28.920 --> 01:22:32.039
animals are the only thing that exists in this world.

1017
01:22:32.800 --> 01:22:36.760
That you know, we have odd things. We're finding new animals,

1018
01:22:36.800 --> 01:22:45.119
new creatures, and even hidden primitee of peoples in different

1019
01:22:46.079 --> 01:22:49.560
jungles of the world where they're discovering that there's these

1020
01:22:50.560 --> 01:22:54.960
these natives that live there in their tribe and nobody

1021
01:22:54.960 --> 01:22:58.640
ever saw in their whole life, you know. So we

1022
01:22:58.720 --> 01:23:04.119
would be remiss to think that we were had all

1023
01:23:04.159 --> 01:23:09.239
the answers and were the only, you know, hot shots

1024
01:23:09.239 --> 01:23:10.000
on this earth.

1025
01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:15.079
Absolutely, we need to be, you know, able to admit

1026
01:23:15.199 --> 01:23:21.239
that there might be something else that we quite don't

1027
01:23:21.279 --> 01:23:24.560
know about yet. And yeah, that's a good place.

1028
01:23:26.479 --> 01:23:30.600
Yeah it'll be exciting too. I mean, you know, we've

1029
01:23:30.600 --> 01:23:33.720
found hair and stuff like that, but we never put

1030
01:23:33.760 --> 01:23:37.960
it up to anything more than getting We never thought

1031
01:23:38.000 --> 01:23:40.880
they fit no way, shape or form, you know, nothing,

1032
01:23:41.640 --> 01:23:46.640
But you know, things get I mean, things get mistaken

1033
01:23:46.840 --> 01:23:52.840
for hair all the time, like that black moss that

1034
01:23:52.880 --> 01:23:55.159
hangs out of the trees. I mean, as a kid,

1035
01:23:55.199 --> 01:23:57.199
we used to call it, which witch is hair, you know,

1036
01:23:57.359 --> 01:24:01.079
so it could have easily and that most of the

1037
01:24:01.079 --> 01:24:03.199
time I just put food things like that if my

1038
01:24:03.319 --> 01:24:07.359
husband brought them to me, because you know, I lived

1039
01:24:07.359 --> 01:24:12.159
with wildlife before and understand a lot of things that

1040
01:24:12.359 --> 01:24:15.520
I've studied a lot, and I just don't. Nah, No,

1041
01:24:15.840 --> 01:24:18.680
that's not that. And it's not to say I'm a

1042
01:24:18.720 --> 01:24:21.119
non believer. It's just to say that I'm a realist

1043
01:24:21.159 --> 01:24:25.520
and if it doesn't look real, then I'm not going

1044
01:24:25.600 --> 01:24:28.359
to say it is real, you know. And that's the

1045
01:24:28.399 --> 01:24:31.239
same as it is with Bigfoot. We don't know what

1046
01:24:31.359 --> 01:24:35.159
bigfoot is yet. And that's why I stayed away from

1047
01:24:35.199 --> 01:24:39.520
most of the Facebook pages because I hear all kinds

1048
01:24:39.560 --> 01:24:45.840
of things that for me, they don't put my reality

1049
01:24:46.039 --> 01:24:50.359
of what is, you know, Like I don't think it's

1050
01:24:50.399 --> 01:24:55.880
some fairy tale thing, you know. And people kind of

1051
01:24:55.880 --> 01:24:58.199
have their own opinion, and that's cool, you know. They

1052
01:24:58.199 --> 01:25:01.680
can believe what they want to believe and find find

1053
01:25:01.680 --> 01:25:04.399
their answers the way they want to find their answers

1054
01:25:05.520 --> 01:25:08.159
and we're still looking. I mean, we're still looking for

1055
01:25:08.199 --> 01:25:13.399
an answer. We're waiting for Hilf, Jeff Meldrum and some

1056
01:25:13.560 --> 01:25:15.960
of them. Cliff, I mean, he has a special place

1057
01:25:16.039 --> 01:25:21.199
up a mount hood wait waiting for those guys to say, hey,

1058
01:25:21.279 --> 01:25:22.279
guess what you know?

1059
01:25:23.000 --> 01:25:25.760
Oh absolutely, I think I think a lot of us

1060
01:25:25.960 --> 01:25:30.720
are for sure. But hey, this has been just an

1061
01:25:30.720 --> 01:25:35.279
incredible chat of I mean, such a long period that

1062
01:25:35.359 --> 01:25:37.840
you were out there, and thank you for sharing it

1063
01:25:38.319 --> 01:25:41.399
on the show. I think a lot of people are

1064
01:25:41.479 --> 01:25:44.479
going to be able to take this information and maybe

1065
01:25:44.560 --> 01:25:48.800
unlock some memories of their own with it. So thank

1066
01:25:48.840 --> 01:25:51.880
you so much for coming on, and thank you.

1067
01:25:51.880 --> 01:25:56.079
For inviting me. And you know, I hope that your

1068
01:25:56.479 --> 01:26:01.399
dead listeners will be kind and and understand that this

1069
01:26:01.560 --> 01:26:06.039
has been a very traumatic thing. And I just say

1070
01:26:06.600 --> 01:26:10.560
happy trails to everybody up there in their search and

1071
01:26:10.720 --> 01:26:13.359
opening their minds to what's going on. And I thank

1072
01:26:13.359 --> 01:26:15.640
you very very much for inviting me on. It was

1073
01:26:16.439 --> 01:26:18.840
my pleasure to stumble through it and try to do

1074
01:26:18.960 --> 01:26:24.279
my best. And we'll be listening to you because we really,

1075
01:26:24.720 --> 01:26:26.159
we really are fans.

1076
01:26:27.439 --> 01:26:30.640
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1077
01:26:30.640 --> 01:26:34.880
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1078
01:26:34.920 --> 01:26:37.600
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1079
01:26:37.640 --> 01:26:41.880
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1082
01:26:48.239 --> 01:26:51.600
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1085
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1086
01:27:02.039 --> 01:27:05.960
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1087
01:27:06.039 --> 01:27:08.880
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1088
01:27:09.600 --> 01:27:13.279
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1089
01:27:13.279 --> 01:27:16.239
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1090
01:27:16.239 --> 01:27:18.439
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1091
01:27:18.479 --> 01:27:21.800
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1092
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1097
01:27:40.520 --> 01:27:44.479
I'll see you there and again, thanks for listening.

1098
01:28:34.000 --> 01:28:35.479
Her and I can get on here, we can tell

1099
01:28:35.479 --> 01:28:36.079
our stories.

1100
01:28:36.479 --> 01:28:38.079
Maybe there's somebody else out there.

1101
01:28:37.920 --> 01:28:41.319
Listening it's too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this

1102
01:28:41.359 --> 01:28:43.560
will give them the courage to come out.

1103
01:28:43.800 --> 01:28:45.319
And now I feel so bad about it.

1104
01:28:45.760 --> 01:28:48.319
Who cares what anybody thinks. I know what I saw,

1105
01:28:48.760 --> 01:28:51.640
I know what's out there. That's all I care about.

1106
01:29:07.560 --> 01:29:11.079
Please let people know, Please let them know.

1107
01:29:11.359 --> 01:29:14.079
If you ever see one of these things, you need

1108
01:29:14.199 --> 01:29:17.840
to tell, because if you don't, then shame on you,

1109
01:29:17.840 --> 01:29:59.600
you know, shame on you. M