9 Years of Horrifying Bigfoot Encounters in Oregon (Archive Episode)

0:00 Welcome to Big for Society. If you have Bigfoot activity to report from the same area as discussed in this episode, please reach out to me directly after this episode. And if you'd like to be on the podcast to discuss a personal Bigfoot encounter, please reach out to me directly at Big for Society at gmail dot com. Do you wish there was more Big for Society to listen to you every week? Well there is now. If you become a supporting member over at Patreon, you get a special members only episode every single week on Wednesdays, and sometimes even more episodes. Head on over to patreon dot com. Forward slash the Big for Society, and now let's get on with the show, all right, bigfot Society. We've got the privilege of talking to Taya tonight, and she contacted me from the great state of Oregon about some things that they've experienced over a nine year period. How's it going tonight, Taya.

0:55 It's going very good. Physic weather, definitely perfect weather. It's starting to get a little bit cooler out here in Iowa, and I'm sure it's beautiful out there in Oregon as well. But uh, you know, you sent me a little bit about what happened is just it sounds like a fascinating story, and you even were able to talk with you know, Cliff Brickman about it, and it's just it's I can't wait to hear the whole story. So I'm just so glad that you're on the phone with me tonight. Well, thank you very much for having me, for inviting me.

1:37 I really appreciate that, and it's very good to be able to bring it to the forefront. I listened to your podcast about being close in two neighborhoods and such, and so we were, we were out and we did have neighbors. We weren't right in a town or having a bop around like that, but we we were around neighbors. There were far off distant farms and such. And when we went there, we went there because we had decided we wanted to do something different. People, you know, they go to Yellowstone Park and their cap hosts a Yellowstone all the different ways in and we thought, you know, that might be a good adventure since we had a piece a r V we could be in. And we just fell into this kind of watch situation where we were watching equipment for logging and various different things going in, you know, on in this property, which also included that they would have occasional hikers come through there and so forth,

3:12 so they wanted everything watched. And it was a really good feel for us because we weren't we weren't really we didn't feel like we were really working. We were all able to keep actually keep jobs outside of there that we were able to be up there in the times and the necessary times and overnight when they really needed us to keep an eye on things. So it felt pretty good. And you know, it was like you know, parents, you know, we were we were never actually, I need to digress a little bit. We never did it ever reveal that we ever had those experience there because of the various different people that would come in, and we did not want anybody to be fearful of anything, because number one, it's a forest and it has everything in it, you know, from bobcat bear, you know, coyote. There was a small bear. It was a tiny bear, but we had owls and everything in there that you would expect.

4:34 So we tried to help folks that did come in there to understand that it was actually a force. It needed to be regarded as such so that there wouldn't be any surprises from any of the wild animals. And we tried to you know, we were there, they'd ask questions, but we you know, always be distracted from our job with geo cash and poking and folks and and you know, and they drop by. You know, you got a clue. We go once up here and and all that. And of course I mean we didn't because we didn't do that.

5:15 But our adventures started in September of nine. We moved our we moved into the little our V site thing that they had set up for us. And you know, after living in a park for a while, a regular RV park, I just felt totally wonderful there because it was just a breath of fresh air and you know, having a variety of evergreens and a blend of deciduous It was just it was a glorious for us. The great place to be, decent, quiet, no cars. So you know, here we are, we move in, we're just left on our own to explore and to find our way through the forest on our own. They just kind of we're so happy to have us. They just go, okay, here it is, you know, have fun basically, And so we started to explore, and you know, we didn't make our way through the forest right away. We went out and we watched the bluff. It was beautiful to the southwest view.

6:37 It was just totally glorious with the sunset colors and everything. So we listened to all the woodland sounds and watched, you know, the sun sink into the west and sizzle it's way out. But it wasn't dark. It was still light. So I said to my husband and I said, hey, I said, we're here, so why don't we go exploring, you know, And he was like, well, it's almost dark. He wasn't so sure about that. We had a side by side that was left there for us to use, and I'd never driven a side by side. I'd driven a farm things and a four wheeler and things like that.

7:22 You know, had to be adventurous. So we decided to take our first trip to the forest, not realizing that it was dusk up there, or not quite dusk. But when you get into the forest, it's like a lot darker. And so we're going snaking down this kind of you know, logging road thing down this hill and it's getting dark and we had the lights on, but I thought, well, jeez, these aren't these aren't bright enough. So I reached down and went to put the bright thaw on while my husband was driving, and the lights went out. So that was our first little adventure in the forest. I got I had my nag light flashlight, and I got it on the big spot the spotlight part, and I put it at the ditch and I said, okay, how you followed the bouncing ball. I bounced it up through the ditch line and we got back up around the corner and up there where it was safe and in our house.

8:33 That you know, that was our first tour of the of the forest in the dark. Our next tour was day daylight, and you know, we went we went down the road and explored all the different parts of the area and you know, looking over everything that we needed to look over, and it was just, you know, a wonderful, beautiful place to be after a rain. It smelled like it smell like Christmas trees. It was so clean and beautiful in there. And on the weekends, you know, we'd go out and just sit and have our coffee on this deck that we kind of threw together really quick, right after we moved there and we fenced it in to be kind of a cadio so that and we would cook out there every night, and within within a few days we experienced odd noises, whistles, and a lot of coyote calls in all different from all different directions around the hill. And it was most nights, and you know, fall was coming fast, and as the coyotes seemed to

10:05 quit calling and being around, dolls came out and it became more frequent, given kind of a haunted feeling to the forest. But I guess it seemed to be mating c's season that was upon us. And uh, but it just seemed like it was, you know, getting busier and busier with the animals outside. We would just sit out there and look outdoors below as we had a ah. It was an undeveloped part of the forest. It was really pretty rugged down there. It hadn't really had any road built into it. Anything done down there had to be pretty much done on foot or with some type of of heavy equipment, and it was pretty heavy, heavily forested down there, and we just you know, sit there and be cooking our meal, and all of a suddenly we got this just god awful odor, and it was my thought to be a dead deer, because you know, cougar's going through there. They're probably a cougar kill. But

11:36 you know, my husband's very sensitive to older and he complained that the smell was like he and still today he says it was the most unclean, human running flush smell that he ever smelled in. And that for me, since it was a forest and had all the animals and birds, and a person would expect that perhaps there would be a predator in there and leave bones behind. That. Unfortunately, that odor made it a little unsettling because you know, our first days there we seemed to notice that there were very few deer living there, so we didn't know, you know, we had no idea what was what was going on that way. But a few days after moving in, and while on our our daylight side by side ride through miles of roads and trails, we came upon a rack of fresh killed deer bones in the road and it looked like it been boned out by by a hunter, like a hunter's bounty. But one thing was wrong. It

13:12 It just wasn't how it laid there, was it right? It could have been dragged by a coyote because it found it. That it was it was boned out, but not, and it wasn't a complete carcass. It was boned out, the flesh had been taken off, that not by sharp teeth, and there were no knife marks in it. It seemed like the head had been just tore off of it. And of course there weren't any front legs there because they're only held on by soft tissue and skin anyway, So that was kind of er shaking for us. And we were totally thinking that somebody had come in there and and poached the deer and then threw the bones out up there. But you know, with after that happened, each day led to it's its own strange happenings, with one strange thing after another, and much to our surprise, we found out that we had an eccentric neighbor who was sneaking in at night and building a fire in the forest and party end and in the moonlight and passing beer cans around in the forest. And they how

14:49 they got in was they skinnyed by a building that was therefore kicking the side by in. So both like that and and get past that bill and they had this little truck. It was like ham spray painted camouflage, and they'd go in and swipe firewood and things like that as well, or be picking wildflowers at night with a flashlight. It's just the oddest thing. So with all that happening and a horse getting away, and I'm coming down and checking that out and wondering if we were hiding it. There's our little things like that. We when Christmas came and we started hearing noises down over the hill into the forest in the logging area. We were just for sure thinking that this person, this neighbor was down there on Christmas Day. So we're dressed up ready for Christmas dinner. We hear all this knowing I think, well it's Christmas. We better get the side by and go out and look. So we go down there. It's eight miles of roads and trails all around down and there to check out. And we got down there and the noise wasn't where we heard it, but it was above us. So I go around where that was, and

16:25 nobody was there, and it kept doing that and playing with us. We believed it was her that we couldn't hear a vehicle. We believed it was this neighbor, and so we decided to instead of going the road the way we'd done and like we were following, we started cutting across and thinking, Okay, we'll run into them, we'll chase them out, it'll be done and we could go. And we were down there an hour and a half and we never saw one person down there that we heard all the noise, We heard people talking, we heard laughing, we heard everything. So Ill, dressed up ready to go to dinner, decided the heck with this. We'd just go on up and get in the car and lock the gate on our way out, and if they were in there and they had a vehicle in there, they'd be locked in. So it was after dark when we got home and we went with our headlights to check it out, and there wasn't anybody up there. It was just so mystifying and so weird and creepy, knowing that we were hearing things, people laughing and this and that, and there was only one way in and one way out, and

17:57 we had locked that. Way for society will be right back after these messages. So that was the beginning of a lot of very weird things happening. But the weirdest thing was the nice that we heard far off howling. And I always referred to it as the House of the Baskerville because it was this god awful, hair raising, screaming, weird stuff. But still we just thought, you know, far off neighbor dogs.

18:52 They got out there chasing around, They're barking at whatever and howling at whatever. We never saw, and it didn't go on like every night, like a dog in a neighborhood would see something and start barking or seeing nothing in park. Anyway, it happened occasionally, and when it did, it was just this screamy, awful, horrible thing. And I would say to my husband, will we live in a murder mountain or something, because it was just this nervous thing about that happening out there. So we got so disturbed by all of this weirdness and this neighbor driving in and hiding out and swiping the wood and stuff, that we bought a little night vision camera and didn't tell anybody. We didn't tell anybody about it, so we you know, we were blaming the neighbor for all this stuff, that we shouldn't just blame her. And we figured that some of the screaming down there that we thought was kids are a woman was probably a cougar screaming or a vixen, a female fox screaming. Because we weren't ever thinking we never once ever thought that we we just

20:28 hadn't been following it. We you know, years ago, I heard about it, but we weren't following it. We weren't watching TV. We're too busy working. And it was about that time that we did run into finding Bigfoot people that the TV show, but we only got to kind of like look at it once in a while, and we still didn't cop the clue to this possibility that being in Bigfoot. So we kept that camera at the front of the house and would watch. And the first thing that happened was a neighbor dog come running down and put a sideball right up against the camera because it was on a tripod about two and a half feet off the ground, and we could see that we had a thirty two inch TV with that on there.

21:30 And the next thing that we saw on there was a cougar's eye, and so we knew that we had a prowler and that it was a cougar sniffing things out that, you know, the cougar could have been making the screaming. So we never, like I say, we never put it up to be in Bigfoot at all. But there was a lot to do there with the cleanup of the forest and maintaining the areas, taking care of in our trash, and they had a pit toilet that they had put in there, and other there was other facilities there to be used too, and we would take care of the roads and the ditches and all the touch ups. And one night while we were sitting up at our place, we just gone in the house from eating out on our deck and we heard the pit toilet door just opening and slamming shut, and the opening and slamming shut and opening and slamming shut. So husband jumped in the side by side went down to check it out. There was nothing there, nothing, nothing around. He drove the whole area, nobody, nothing was there. So that was, you know, beginning to make us wonder about, you know,

23:06 having maybe homeless people coming in there, sneaking by the fences or whatever, and maybe they were down there doing whatever that It just it just never made any sense to us at all. The noises, there were children laughing, We never found any children in the night. We heard an eagle cry and it's like it was flying over and doing its eagle call. There's no eagle been calling in the middle of the night that I ever ever heard.

23:52 But you know, and doing all of our chores and everything, we just start watching things. And we start that watching tracks in the snow when the first snow came, and sure enough we were down near that pit toilet area and we found found by peetle tracks or what look by peetle in the snow. So we go, oh, maybe maybe there's something going on here, suppose we have a big foot. But then I got the photos off of my phone and blew them up on the computer, and you could easily see it was a bear track because one truck one foot went into the other foot, making it look like a large footprint, one large footprint. So we just kind of warned the loggers and the crew to kind of keep thanks food and things like that, you know, any packaging, be sure to throw it away and not drawn. And it was a small there, It was a very very small little female there, and she just kind of foozed through and it seemed that she just cruised on and we never saw any more of our tracks. We never we saw her one time and we never saw her again. And when spring rolled around,

25:23 it it seemed to bring interlopers. We caught, you know, walking out and you know, out of the place early in the morning hours, like four point thirty in the morning. It was it was getting you a warm spring. Well, we started finding these huts and they just looked like those folks had made some kind of survivor a survival type of a place to sleep in, and you know, shoved a bench of leaves in it. And they kind of why we call them like somevible hats, is because they kind of looked like a fish's backbone with the ribs touched in the ground, and it was not like rib bones. And there would be one large, thicker branch that would be up against the tree trunk and the tip of it would be held together, you know, on the ground. It would be kind of sticking kind of in the ground a little bit and held down, and then the smaller tree branches were propped up against it all along the way on each side, so it just kind of looked like fishbone, a fishbone type thing, and

26:56 they had stuffed a lot of leaves in it stuffed full of dried leaves, and you could tell that someone had been laighing in it. So we just assumed that some of these folks were sneaking in and coming up there, and we were, you know, finding those well, we took them all down because they were just kind of getting in the way of different things that were being done on the property. And we no longer got them down and gone, and we started finding them again, and they were kind of scattered all throughout the forest, and one was one was very odd. It actually had a black plastic bag stuck up in it and it didn't look I can't say that it really looked human name and others were full of like new fern bows and new spring shoots and things like that night and smashed down.

28:16 Then it wasn't long after that, and the spring just kept us really busy, and we could hear sounds of children playing and people talking, and owls calling and thounds of eagles and everything, and there was there was no one in there. They couldn't be in there because they would have had to get past us. So I would say out of a four day span of the week, in the week we were smelling dead deer and dirty, stinky body odor and wet moss kind of and this and that, and it was we just kind of blow it off. It sounds weird for us to blow it off, but it was people were the concern, you know, for us, people were the concern, not dead deer. And that's what we still thought it was, because we hadn't convinced ourselves that we could be having any other kind of visitor except humans that would come in and be manson around curious.

29:35 I mean, we were down on the side by one day in the sun and we went to land by and a man was laying on a rock in the sun, but he's arm in the air and waved at us and just acted like he belonged there. So we went up and had a visit with him, and he really did have too much to say, and we said suggested that he should probably be away from the floor. Before dark came. He was gone, and we never thought anything more about him until we found a homeless camp down through past some of the locked property, and by then it seemed as though he had vacated it. So we just never thought about about that again. We continued doing our thing cooking outside, smelling the smells. And it was a Saturday when my husband went. He just headed out to check the un developed part of the forest billow rrv.

30:56 And he was gone for hours. I had become kind of nervous, totally uneven, ground overgrown, very isolated, and I would not have been able to hear him calling out to me or he even for him to get me on the telephone. And soon he came back and counbursting through the door, just breathless and excited and kind of freaking out all at one time. And he had a photo.

31:37 He had photos of a foot of a footprint in the mud from a pond, and it was a pond. We had no idea was there. We had never explored that. That wasn't part of what anybody said that we were assigned to do. So we we just we just didn't. We just kept our nose to the grindstone and did what we were told to do. So he had this footprint in the mud, but he was so excited that he didn't think to put anything beside it for measurement, and we kept that footprint. We looked at that footprint for the longest time and didn't know quite what to do with it. But the rest of the story is that he found a trail that went to a pond.

32:39 We didn't know that pond was there. And how he saw it was all of these saplings were broke down, just like someone had gone through like a tornado, making the swaths through these these young saplings, and they were all broke like six foot off in different heights like that, but all way up high. And he couldn't figure out what the foresters had done to get it that way. But of course until he saw the footprint, he assumed that the foresters did it. And nobody ever said anything about it. We never talked to anybody about it. And on his way back he said that he saw this cave style opening and some scrub brush and decided to explore it a little bit. And he said, inside it there was like a teepee structure. He said it was big enough that it would have taken men to build it.

33:55 He said, there was no way any kids or any young people like we had seen going in there could have ever built built it. And he said the opening of the structure and the ground under it was frequently showed it been frequently used, so you know, just behind our house was a partially maintained Great Game trail, and although we didn't recommend people use it, we know that we heard occasional human sounding feet going by it, like footsteps going by it, but we could never find anything.

34:45 So we just assumed that maybe it was you know, a deer or something like that going through. But you know, we didn't know what to do with all this exciting formation that he found. And then we started watching Finding Bigfoot and we saw Cliff on there. We saw all of them, of course, but Cliff was the one that appealed to us. So we decided that perhaps we should try to get a hold of him big. For Society will be right back after these messages.

35:44 So we called what we saw on at the tail end of the show and how they ran all of the people that have been in it or they've been and so forth. We saw that there was a place that you could get ahold of finding Bigfoot producers or something like that. So we called and they were like, yeah, yeah, we want to we want to hear from you and everything, and we talked to him, but we find finally realized that we weren't really talking to Finding bigfoot people. We were talking to somebody else that had a radio station, a radio broadcast, And actually it didn't really help us find out anything except sharing other people talk about it the subject, and I think it made us more nervous about everything we had, you know, times when it was perfectly normal, and then other times it sounded like a bull crashing through the woods. We had trees being pushed over when there was no wind. They were falling. Whether

37:17 they were pushed or not, I can't say. I shouldn't say pushed, but they were. They were crashing around us. And we would find trees across the road. We would find saplings across the road. We would have to move them and and so forth to clean up behind, behind whatever was going on. And I would, you know, I love photography. I would go down down and around into the forest and take my dog with me. I never knew who might be down there, just hays not to go alone, so I'd get the side by out. We'd go down there and I'd shoot a lot of pictures.

38:01 There was just tons of things see and take pictures of. But yet my dog, my dog would get so nervous and she would start this low growl and be looking behind us and nothing was over there. She would get so nervous some days that she'd start pulling my coat because she wanted to leave. So I just give in and get out of there and take her back. But one afternoon I went down into this really nice, beautiful place where there were lady slippers and different really kind of exotic. It was a very magical place. There was kriick went by it that kind of had a deep gorge, There was a nice sound. It was just a beautiful place until it was that day. It just wasn't pretty anymore.

39:06 And all of the hair on the back of my neck, everywhere on me just stood up. The smell was there, and the field that I got, the deep feeling that I got inside of me, was just it was just so paralyzing in such a weird way that I could hardly get the side by and reverse and get it turned around to get out of there impact onto the main road. And after that day, I could never go past a certain point in that forest because it seemed like there was some type of mental thing that was stopping me. And my husband could go through there fine, but it seemed like I was stopped from going through there, and I always think back on it being because of my camera, because during this time of the bear being in there, the owner of the whole property decided to put a game camera in there, and I just wondered, in my own heart of hearts, we're bigfoot. Let's say that's what it was, is a bigfoot saw the infrared

40:40 in my camera and just linked it to the infrared eye on the game camera. That's the only thing I can think of for me to have done a mis justice, to be like stopped, like a wall was right there and I couldn't go past it, but I didn't dare go past it, and I felt the fright of it all. And that seems so weird to have to say this when I've never been afraid in the forest ever. I lived in the forest my whole entire life in the wilderness, and I was never afraid. But this I was afraid of.

41:31 So given that, I just respected it and went on about my business without going through that part of the forest. And it was that shortly after that that we were in bed and we had this god awful screen and howling in the undeveloped part of the forest right below our house, and this yell scream was so incredible that you could feel the reverberation off of it, like like hitting like on the windows, is what it. It's hard, so hard to explain because it's like you feel it that it's not like hitting me that it's like the air was kind of pushing through our open bedroom window, and it felt like it was like standing right out outside of there, and it was so gigantic. We've heard a lot of now that we're now watching about Bigfoot, we've heard several howls that sound exactly like that. And

43:05 at first we were like, you know, what the heck is that? And then it didn't happen again. It stopped and it was quiet. There was anything naked, any no he was out there. And about few minutes later I heard an answer and it was the same exact how and it was like sounded three or four canyons away, but it was loud enough that you could plainly hear that it was exactly the same thing, like somebody else had answered the one that had just yelled outside of our house. So after that we kind of just hit our thing. We didn't try to make big shoe out of it. We didn't try to go hunting for it.

44:04 We just were reminding our own business we had been in the first days of being there. We had some apples and things that had kind of gone a little bit pinky, and we knew deer were there, so we set the apples out there and let the deer have them, and it only happened down again. We weren't trying to habituate anybody or anything. We were just not I mean, the chipmunks, served the slugs, or whoever wanted it could have it. And then we started later on, after the howling and things had happened, I started finding things on my porch. There was a shard of it wasn't china, it was stoneware with this very old fashioned blue print on it, and there was a penny on There were a couple of rocks and odd things, just odd things.

45:12 And the only reason I think that they had their hands on that type of thing is because years ago there had been a house on that property and it had gotten all pushed in and kind of over into that undeveloped area. And honestly, we never went down there. The only thing I could assume is that those things were laying on the ground right there and perhaps us not knowing what we were doing. We were actually trading drink it for drinket or something with the big Foot.

45:55 And I just kept telling my husband and said, oh, look at this, ferries are coming out of our garden and leaving us things on our porch because we just weren't we weren't willing to actually accept that any of this could be Bigfoot. We're just like, Okay, you know, something really screamed, really really loud, like a siren, and we're just going to keep on keeping on and not worry about it until we have to. Well, in two thousand and seventeen is when we knew we had to.

46:36 And actually the scream was in twenty seventeen too, about May somewhere there. And in June, middle of June, we had been away and we were coming home. It was about eleven thirty at night, and it was just clear, be quiet, and we saw this weird, weirdness almost to our house. It was probably five hundred yards as the crow flies from our house, and all we could ever express was this this watery, this just weird, blurry, watery type of movement, and we kept saying it looked like the predator did you ever see the predator? And the only people we told at that time were our very best friends, and we were scared they wouldn't believe us.

47:45 And we said, look, we saw this thing that looked like the predator when it went through the forest, and it did until it came out in the headlights. And before it came out, actually we saw a deer run across the road and we saw this glarriness, and then we saw a big thing come out of the field. It took one giant step in the middle of the road. It turned at its waist and it looked at us, and its eyes were giant red like reflectors or coals or and and then it took another step. It stood on the margin of the bank to the ditch line and went on up past the corner fence of our neighbors into our neighbor's field and was just gone like a deer. But at that time there's enough seconds there that you could see that it was kind of a red color with like a blonde color down its back, and it had like dreadlocks, and it had like what did they called that mutton chops? I think is what

49:20 they call it. And then a few sprigs of hair on one cheek that we could clearly see, and its hair was lode, you know, it was like dreadlocks. And then its arms were it had longish hair on its arms and everything, and it was just unbelievable how it just disappeared right after it looked at us. It was just gone. So we went back the next day after we did the skin pitched test all night wondering what the heck if we'd really seen what we'd seen, We questioned ourselves. Sometimes we still pushed ourselves because it was too unbelievable what we saw. But there were actual till marks in the mud on the edge of the ditch line where it had it dug in so deep that you could actually see the dampness and the dirt right there, and you could easily see that it was till prints.

50:27 And we went on up where we knew that it had gone to, and we weren't clear, you know, that it totally had gone by the corner of our neighbor's fence. Big for Society will be right back after these messages. We didn't know that until the next day when we went back up there and we found two footprints in the grass of all things. Nobody would believe that you could see big footprints in the grass, but honestly, it would had hit there and was heavy enough that it put a deep imprint into that grass, and so you could easily see right where it stepped twice and then there were no more footprints to be found. Whether it was got into the old tree firm that was there, if it had just sprinted across the field, we don't know.

51:44 But we got pictures of that. Unfortunately, those pictures were lost in the cell phone that we took it with and we never did get to recover. My husband does a lot of construction work. He knows measurements, and he said that it was easily close to nine feet tall. His chest was very thick. WAT estimated probably two four foot you know across, and I could guess in the light of the car headlights how much it could have weighed.

52:38 But it was it was quite stealth. I mean, it was built really strong. It looked like for me, looking at how shiny and nice this hair was, it looked like it wasn't It wasn't a juvenile, but it wasn't all And we just can't see what we saw, and we want to try to share our story as best we could with the listeners, because it's an important thing to think about. If you believe that you have one in your yard, or you believe you have one on your property, it just seems best to say that they can be very stealth. We know for fact that with all of the smell through the forest that we were constantly being monitored, maybe there was one, Maybe there were war What were the children laughing? What was all the jibberish?

54:02 Was it Chinese and Japanese people walking and hiking through there with kriek running? Who could say that this is what we heard and experienced. And we feel that if we were paralleled through all of the trails, and if we were teased at Christmas time like we believe now we were, anybody could be grabbed at any time, if that was the idea, or could be the idea of something to be doing, especially when there's nobody else around.

54:50 Just a couple of nights ago, we were watching the one year Remembrance of Carrying Our Arnold. We just happened to come across Hidden Existence and there was a gentleman on there that said, you need to be aware of Bigfoot because Bigfoot has one occupation and that is to survive, and to survive he has to be a killer. Is not just eating grubs and roots, that he is eating deer and other things, and that humans should be just as aware of the danger as any of the deer are.

55:41 And that made a lot of sense, because at any one time, when we were busy with leaving the side by running, we could have never heard him sneak up on us. We never heard him when we knew they were there. We would hear the whistles when we knew they were there when we were cooking. There was one whistle that was a constant whistle. It sounded like a bird, and I will whistle back to it, thinking it was a bird, and we just would go it would whistle, I'd whistle, and then about I don't know a year, two years after we moved away from there, I told my husband, I said, you know the funny thing about that whistle and that bird? He said yeah. I said, did you ever notice that there were no other birds whistling that way? There was only it and me. There were no other birds that sounded that way. And we'd heard about so many whistles. Some people on all the different Bigfoot shows that now we know that that's probably what it was. There were so many things that we were so naive about. We never thought about Bigfoot. We never watched the shows about Bigfoot until we moved away from there. And now it's been four years and we're

57:15 still hearing people repeat things on the Bigfoot podcasts and videos that we've said ourselves. It's it's like listening to our recording of ourselves over and over and over about the trauma, about the spookiness, the noises, to take out calls, to shake eagle calls. It's it's unbelievable, what what can come to you this this long and time later, Four years, I think is a long time, and we weren't We were like traumatized then, but it seems like we're still traumatized from it because now we have dreams about it that we never had before. So it's good to kind of listen to what everybody has to say, share your words in your experience with other people. Someday we'll get to the bottom of this. Someday we'll all know what it is. And you know, Scott Carpenter's in heaven now he knows probably he's probably got his answers carry armand's

58:47 in heaven now too, probably the only ones with the answers right now that we're all hoping to get there, and we're all hoping to find out and find out in us scientific way without needing to take one of these creatures out. And I appreciate beings and invite it on the show to share my words and get my story out. Tayo, thank you so much for sharing what you both experience.

59:27 It's it's an incredible account. Do you mind if I ask you a few questions about what you shared? I actually would love it, because awesome. In trying to like not get too long and drawn out on everything there, I have a journal and I kind of tried to do a synopsis to the highlights and the things that I thought people would be interested and hearing about. So if you can ask me questions, it might really help to get more Or are the important things out?

1:00:09 Yeah, just a few things that I'm kind of curious about. So when you had the sighting of the big Foot, were you able to get a really good look at its face? Then? Yeah, it had it had kind of a mud colored face, you know, in the headlights. It was hard to tell if it was gray because the headlights were glowing right on its face. Big for Society will be right back after these messages.

1:00:55 That it seemed like it. If it was daylight, it would probably won't be more towards the gray. But it had very a huge head, absolutely a huge head, and the eyes were spread quite far apart. And when I say they looked like coals, they were big like that. They were big, and they glowed, they glowed this red. It's so weird how he kept saying it's the eyes, and I kept saying, trying to say, no, it's just some reflectors down the road, and it wasn't, and I knew it wasn't. But it looked like very dark red and just kind of shined out like it just glowed from the center out, getting like the orange color as it came out, and it had more of it, and how and the quicklick we had, I would say it it wasn't ugly at all. It had more like it had the really deep the big brow ridge and the eyes were going so big you could you know, see down onto its cheeks a bit. But it its mouth was just a slit. It just turned and it looked

1:02:28 at us. It glared. It couldn't it couldn't turn its head. Its neck was really thick. It couldn't turn its head. So as it was stepping, it was, you know, thrusting like the right arm up and it turned at the waist with its like its left arm was kind of behind it, and turned at the waist, looked at us for half a second or something. Find enough, and it turned back and it took its other step, slid and was gone up into the darkness behind the tree trunks and into the field. And it wasn't you know, I can't say it was necessarily pretty, but I can't say that it was like something. I mean, I was in my car, you know, and it didn't look like an ugly monster. It just was a tall, hairy creature with red blueing eyes that looked at us and kept going going, And we think what happened is I mean we saw cloaking or what now we assume as cloaking because of the words we've heard that it was like predator moving and it kept going what is that? What is that?

1:03:56 And this deer came out and went across the road and it came out behind it and we think it made a mistake and it just got caught in our headlights, which it wasn't expecting to do, and then it turned and left at it and the left. So I don't know. Does that answer your question? Yeah, I know that definitely does. If you had to classify the creature, would you put it more into category of something that was ape like or maybe something more human like based on what you. Saw on its face. It's when it turned its face, like, its nose and its cheekbones and stuff looked more human not ape. And I don't recall that it had the sadgittal crest, that it was dark behind it, you know, we had the headlights on it. The hair would like I said, it was long rockstar like a hair and away and it was like dreadlocks. But the rest of the body was shiny and clean. Its arms were huge, Its thighs were huge. It's from like the foot up to the knee wasn't real long. It was the length of its height I think would have come from the hip to the knee. That's how it looked like it

1:05:26 was built in the desk that I can describe from like they say, you know, in the headlights. It that side of it was like really long from the hip down to the knee and the knee and the calfs that me from the knee down to the to the feet, which I couldn't really see the feet, but the calf of the leg I remember, was like real like that rock there or something, you know, And I suppose that's the musclefflex from the running. But we just know what's you know, kind of ingrained in our brain that it's something like I said, we can't see it, that's there, It's always going to be there. And a lot of the weird weirdness that happened was perfectly explainable once we saw it that night.

1:06:31 Oh absolutely, Did you said that you saw it kind of go over to the neighbor's property. Did you ever go over and talk to the neighbors about it? No, we never talked to anybody about it, sure because we were because we saw something that our brains weren't ready to see, I think, and it was hard enough for us. I mean, we talked about it with ourselves over and over and over and over and trying to say, well, this was our reality, is this what we saw? And we kept going over and over it, and the only people that we ever shared it with for these four years until we went and saw Cliffs. As you said in the introduction, we didn't tell anybody because we didn't trust that we wouldn't be ridiculed, and given our professions and this and that, we really didn't want to put ourselves out there that way. And our friends had been our best friends for years, so they believed this, and they're the only ones that we could ever really talk to.

1:07:49 But we did get up enough courage to go over to the North American Bigfoot Museum. When Cliff first got that going, it was when he was still breaking ground on the museum part. It had his his gift shop opened, and they weren't really busy when we popped in that day and we said, hey, you know, we don't want to bother you. He felt shy about it that he was there, and he's the only one we knew that had been out there researching and had and I've closed enough to us that we could actually take our evidence to him and have him looked at it. And he looked at the footprint in the mud, and he could see that that the break was there, everything was there, and he said yes, absolutely. In his educated mind, he believe that that was a big foot track, and he liked it well enough to ask us if he could please have a print of it so that he could frame it to put it in his museum, which is what we granted, because we we wanted to let people

1:09:20 know because we lived close enough to Mount Hood and close enough to the National Force and so forth like that that you know, people you know, coming through anywhere in that part and they could see that footprint where it came from and so forth and have an idea that what's out there. You know, we were very we've been very very secretive over our location because there's just too many people that want to find out and go where they been sighted and in our case, it wouldn't have been a healthy thing for anybody to do because you know, you can't get in the mix with loggers and logging equipment and things like that. It just would mix.

1:10:13 So we've never disclosed the location. Our best friends knew because they know where we lived, but we just we never had company, we did. We were just out in the woods, you know. Yeah. So I I just hope with all my hopes that people if they if they see him, you know, don't try to chase them around, and just try not to get traumatized by him. I think I have to say, you know, in uh, the time after the fact we lived there in twenty eighteen, that was kind of the gig was up for doing the project that we've been invited to be part of, for everything we were doing, and so we we our gig was up, and we moved on with our fifth wheel, and in two thousand and twenty we were caught up in the wildfires up there and in the area up the Colocamus River, and so I kind of believed that

1:11:45 the two traumas together kind of had magnified a little bit to how we feel about, you know, how we saw that and then how we've now are kind of having to deal with it. And the fire thing. I think the fire just kind of crashed into what we were already dealing with, you know that trying to be realistic about everything. We're just working through it and listening to what we can find out, and we're sharing with you, and we shared with Cliff, and we feel like what we saw is what we saw. But you're you know, it doesn't matter. I'll tell you what unless you're a courageous guy and you believe with all your heart they're not going to hurt you. If you see one, you're probably going to be doing the skin pinched test, just like we are, because it's still hard to believe that we saw it.

1:12:52 You know, absolutely, And it sounds you get I agree you have been through so much with both such yous, but I'm it sounds like you are definitely starting to get a handle on what happened, and this is probably helping being able to talk about it as well. There was another thing that you mentioned really quickly, and you talked about how you heard people at certain points or what sounded like people, and at one point you said it kind of sounded like maybe a Chinese or Japanese language. So whenever you heard people, was did it kind of sound like a language type like that type of language or.

1:13:37 Yeah? Actually, actually there were a couple things that happened. I was down doing some photography and which I'd totally love to do that if I had a day off from work and was on the job there, I'd go down and get a photography. And I was down there, it was quiet, everything stopped making a noise. We had tree frogs and we had birds everything. All of a sudden, everything went quiet, and somebody goes, Okay, oh my god, where's that. I looked all around and there was nothing there but my dog, who was my partner, was sitting there shivering like she was in an ice bath, and it creaked me out, tou So I thought, okay, well, maybe we've just better wander on back up to our house.

1:14:37 But yes, it sounded we had there was a creek there, and so it and there were you know, a lot of different foreign people would come visit friends and friends knew that that place where they would allow when there were workers in there, that they could walk through or hike or whatever. That if you were near the cry, anybody speaking English or otherwise could sound really garbled. And so I just assumed that that's what it was. But we heard at night, at dusk, just before it's getting dark, we could hear children playing down there. We could hear them laughing. We could go up onto this. We were up on kind of a mountain and there was this gnole there that we could get on. We could watch the sunset and sound carries uphill, and we could hear children down by the restrooms playing and giggling and laughing, and we get the side by side out and go down there to track to see what family was in there, and there was never anybody there. The same with the door to the privy slam bang, slam bang, and went down there to check nobody was there. Honest to goodness,

1:16:09 nobody was there. I used to I have kind of the sixth sense about things, and I used to feel like I was being watched, which a lot of people do, you know, but I would feel it, particularly at night. Big for Society will be right back after these messages, and I. Used to feel like one of them was just sitting out there under a tree beside the house. And I know it could be my imagination, but that was when I started. And then, of course, well my husband. I never brought this up in the story, but my husband we had three plum trees that have been growing there because of that out home that had been there, and they were ancient because that place was ancient. And he found these pum trees, so he went out and cleaned up all around under him, and the next day he was going to go out and pick him. And this is the God's truth when he got out there, there was not one plumb left on any of those three trees, not one. He said, what was on the ground had

1:17:40 ants on it, that there were no good ones left in the tree at all. And it was the weirdest thing, you know. It was just something that we still talk about how he prepared all of that to go pick the plums and there wasn't one left there to the top of the trees there, real tall, but clear to the top of the trees, you know. And here in falls going past our house, you know, and thinking somebody has come in there and they're messing around. And then he heard noise out there, and he went out the door and I heard whatever it was take off. It was going through the woods like crazy. You could feel it hit in the ground. And he came back in the house and I said, jeez, I said, I'd never take you hunting unless I had your dog a dear for me, because you made so much noise going through that brush that, you know, I can hear you all the way down to the road. So that wasn't me, he said, that was whatever would had been in the road or in the yard ahead of me going through there.

1:18:59 So whatever that was only God knows. We're not going to try to label it. But you know, everybody says bigfoot is quiet. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't, maybe he is part of the time, and maybe if you gets scared, he makes a lot of noise running away. You know, sure, yeah, but it you know, it happened. It's just it's just so it's so mysterious, and we keep saying why us. I mean, we weren't. We had no idea, we had no clue at all. We were I almost feel like I've had to tell this story backwards instead of saying, jeez, in two thousand and seventeen, we had this you know, predator thing and then this bigfoot, the deer chasing the deer and all this and blah blah blah. But no, you know, I feel like it's all backwards because how it started out and how we never won time. I never thought of a bigfoot, not once.

1:20:04 And like I said, living in the wilderness like I did, I never I'd never thought about bigfoot at all. I mean, people were what you looked out for. You didn't look out for the animals. Usually they are afraid of you. They minded their business, You minded yours and all that stuff, you know, and and then later since all of this, looking back onto my experiences there, I know that there was a bigfoot there too, and that makes me feel like I'm even crazier knowing that some of the noises and sounds I heard there were just exactly like what I've heard other people described and heard the recordings that people have made, you know, and it's just it's just weird.

1:20:58 But it's my experience and nothing happened to me, and I guess I'm richer for it that I had this experience in my husband and I had this experience, and you know, I went through all the things that some people go through, Like some people say, well they're from benefelen. Other people have other ideas, you know, about paranormal stuff. I don't know what I want to think about it, but at one point in my feelings about it, I was just like rebuking it because I didn't know if it was evil or if it was alien like anybody says, or if it was actual creature animal existence like Cliff and the researchers believe. There's all different thought. And I got to the point where it was kind of bugging me.

1:22:03 So much. I just said go away. I didn't see you. I don't want to know about you, you know. And my husband's not that way. I mean he'll sit and watch different stuff and all that, you know. But you know, I don't. I don't think that I've ever been considered enough to think that we're the only thing. Humans and animals are the only thing that exists in this world. That you know, we have odd things. We're finding new animals, new creatures, and even hidden primitee of peoples in different jungles of the world where they're discovering that there's these these natives that live there in their tribe and nobody ever saw in their whole life, you know. So we would be remiss to think that we were had all the answers and were the only, you know, hot shots on this earth.

1:23:12 Absolutely, we need to be, you know, able to admit that there might be something else that we quite don't know about yet. And yeah, that's a good place. Yeah it'll be exciting too. I mean, you know, we've found hair and stuff like that, but we never put it up to anything more than getting We never thought they fit no way, shape or form, you know, nothing, But you know, things get I mean, things get mistaken for hair all the time, like that black moss that hangs out of the trees. I mean, as a kid, we used to call it, which witch is hair, you know, so it could have easily and that most of the time I just put food things like that if my husband brought them to me, because you know, I lived with wildlife before and understand a lot of things that I've studied a lot, and I just don't. Nah, No, that's not that. And it's not to say I'm a non believer. It's just to say that I'm a realist and if it doesn't look real, then I'm not going to say it is real, you know. And that's the same as it is with Bigfoot. We don't know what bigfoot is yet. And that's why I stayed away from most of the Facebook pages because I hear all kinds of things that for me, they don't put my reality

1:24:46 of what is, you know, Like I don't think it's some fairy tale thing, you know. And people kind of have their own opinion, and that's cool, you know. They can believe what they want to believe and find find their answers the way they want to find their answers and we're still looking. I mean, we're still looking for an answer. We're waiting for Hilf, Jeff Meldrum and some of them. Cliff, I mean, he has a special place up a mount hood wait waiting for those guys to say, hey, guess what you know? Oh absolutely, I think I think a lot of us are for sure. But hey, this has been just an incredible chat of I mean, such a long period that you were out there, and thank you for sharing it on the show. I think a lot of people are going to be able to take this information and maybe unlock some memories of their own with it. So thank you so much for coming on, and thank you.

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1:28:34 Her and I can get on here, we can tell our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out there. Listening it's too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give them the courage to come out. And now I feel so bad about it. Who cares what anybody thinks. I know what I saw, I know what's out there. That's all I care about. Please let people know, Please let them know. If you ever see one of these things, you need to tell, because if you don't, then shame on you, you know, shame on you. M