Aug. 31, 2026

A 10-Foot Bigfoot Walked Past His SUV At Lolo Pass

A 10-Foot Bigfoot Walked Past His SUV At Lolo Pass
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Season 1

A 2026 trip into the Lolo Pass and Mt. Hood area of Oregon produced one of Gary Allen’s most intense weekends yet.


Gary returns to Bigfoot Society with firsthand details from a remote camp near what he calls Skookum Ridge, where several people reported activity over the same weekend. His skeptical brother watched multiple massive figures moving around camp before a reported 9-to-10-foot figure walked within feet of his SUV.


Elsewhere in camp, a father and son reported an 8-foot figure crossing a strobe-lit meadow. Later, another witness described a towering black figure standing near the trees with bright yellow eye shine.


The weekend also included strange vocalizations moving through the forest, powerful wood knocks, unusual horse reactions, possible trackways, missing camp equipment, food disappearing, and more.


Then Saturday brought another massive silhouette across the river and things kept escalating.


Multiple witnesses. Multiple encounters. One extraordinarily active weekend near Lolo Pass, Mt. Hood and the Sandy River in Oregon.


Hear Gary Allen walk through the entire 2026 experience in Bigfoot Society Episode 1188.

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You're listening to Big for Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to

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bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've

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seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers

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to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us. Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers

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as he continues his fight against cancer. For more updates

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about his medical journey, please go to the carring Bridge

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link in the show notes. Thank you all right, Big

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for Society. You've got the privilege of talking to Gary

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Allen again. Gary has been on the show multiple times

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over the last few years because he's got some wild

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things that have happened around the Lolo Pass area of Oregon,

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out there by Mount Hood, and I would really recommend

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that you go back and listen to those episodes if

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you haven't already. Wild wild Stuff, Well, welcome back. To

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the show again. Gary, how are you doing today, sir?

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Thank you doing good, doing good. It's great day, going

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to flow out here in Oregon.

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Beautiful funny about I hope it is the how are

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the fires out where you're at here? You're able to

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breathe okay, and things of.

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That clearned out. The fighters are on the east side

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of the Cascades, and the smoke kind of blew in

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for two or three days and our air quality got

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to like one fifty one sixty. Wind shifted yesterday and

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it blew it all back over. I hear in Primeville, Oregon,

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they were at three hundred. I mean, you shouldn't even

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be outside after like one hundred. But it's pretty darn

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smoking there. It's now coming out of the west again

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and we're just crystal clear out here.

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Good stuff, good stuff. So this, uh, we're having to

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follow up episode because if listeners remember, part of this

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is you go to this same area every year for

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your birthday and you have kind of like a gathering.

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But it's bigfoot focused as well. I think all that

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has been talked about in the last episodes. Correct, I'm

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pretty sure we talked about that.

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Yeah, we take the horses up there, except we're mid season,

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mid race season for our endurance horses, and it puts

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a lot of muscle on when you run them up

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up a hillside, they get a lot stronger, a lot faster,

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and so it gets them in really good shape for

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our next race coming up.

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Gotcha. And so because of that, you've had a lot

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of interesting things happen. Those are talked about in the

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previous episodes, some really close calls recently. But so this

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year you were able to have you had quite the

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group go out there. It sounds like you had a

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few people with you.

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Yeah. Actually I had my brother come up with a

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skeptic and Joe b. Lark showed up on Saturday, and

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Cliff Bertman came up the day after. I wasn't there.

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He was he's looking at some of the trackways that

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we found. But yeah, and then Rob Gentleman you introduced

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me to uh he he asked if he could come up.

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I said sure. He brought his two teenage boys. The

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guy's just really good manners, really good person. I'm really

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glad that we met, and he'll he'll be invited every

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year from now on. Any year we go up there

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and his boys.

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Good guy, we've talked for a few hours. Great, great guy.

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I'm glad he was able to make it out for that.

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So you got Joe Cliff, skeptic individual, Robin, two teenage boys.

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He came up the day after to look at some track.

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And then John, a friend of mine. John, that's a

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really good friend of Joe b Lars. They've been going

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up the Bigfoot Highway for years. John's had sidings on

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the Bigfoot highwa for years, and all kinds of different

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things have happened. Even as I think it was a

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week ago he went camping and had really strange stuff happened.

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But yeah, yep, all those people were up there and

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my girlfriend and of course are two ponies that we

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take up, so yep.

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And this is the same individual that had the issue

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with almost being bucked off the horse up on the mountain,

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correct my girlfriend?

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Yeah, yeah, it reared up when when a squad shoved

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a tree down about seventy five feet up the hill

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from her, it reared up and almost fell off a

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cliff backwards. So we don't. We don't ride the horse

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up that side anymore. It's just too dangerous with them

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being so active up there, I'm afraid that the horse

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might tumble backwards off a cliff.

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And this year, did Tom Powell make it at all

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or unable to talk to make it?

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Unfortunately, Tom wasn't able to make it. I think that

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I think that he's his wife. I think has health problems.

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He's kind of trying to get through, but he couldn't

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make it. He was really he's really happy to be invited.

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We've had him up a couple of years, so absolutely so. Gary.

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You've told me a bit about what happened, and it

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sounds like it got extremely intense. So I would be

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interested if you could kind of take us through the

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events of the weekend, because you are up there for

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it's Friday through Sunday.

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Correct correct, correct? Yeah. We go up Friday afternoon and

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come back on Sunday afternoon pretty much every year on

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my birthday or whatever weekends closest to it.

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Were there a lot of other campers up there at

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the same time, or was it no, just you guys? Okay?

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Pretty much? Yeah, okay, okay. We're kind of an out

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of way place, so it's uh. Even though we're next

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to the road, it's not that many cars go by,

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and it's it's pretty quiet up there. We're not we're

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off at a couple of hundred feet, but basically it's

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kind of fairly close to civilization. There's ridges all over

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Lolo Pass. We we just found one that that seems

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to be pretty active, only because we run the horses

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up and back and and uh that that brings them in.

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They seem to be really interested in the horses and

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activity more so than just like a hiker or a campher.

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So how how soon was it, I mean, you get

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you get everyone showing up on Friday? Did things kick

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off really quickly or how did things kind of start

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happening for you this year?

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Well, Friday night was a big night, that's for sure.

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That's that's when we had multiple sightings. But it was

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h Yeah, it's kind of kind of a slow start

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because we roll in and start setting up the corrals

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and and get the horses off situated, get camps set up,

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and then other people start showing up and and we

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kind of plan out, you know, we're gonna have somebody

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you know down this way or over that way, you know,

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one hundred feet away or fifty feet away. We start

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we start setting up camp and and then they start

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setting up their camps. And the way we set it up,

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we're spread out somewhat so that so that we get

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more coverage of this area. The thing you run into

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is the site that that my girlfriend likes the most

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is right by a creek. I mean it's and the

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creek is so loud that microphones and stuff pick up nothing.

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Now I've heard voices, and I'm not the only one,

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but I've heard voices at night down by the creek.

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Uh you know, a language you don't understand sometimes. But

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once it was my friend's Tom's voice at three in

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the morning, and I could hear it over the creek.

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Water crystal clear, and Tom was dead to sleep, uh

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two hundred feet away, so it wasn't Tom. But anyways.

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Uh So by spreading out, some of us can camp

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further away from the creek over more in these old

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growth trees and uh uh to some real small meadows

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right next to those that that you know, these guys

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come into. They're they're really interested in campers, you know,

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if it's if it's something different. Uh, And so we

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we just try to be something different and succeed. We're

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pretty good at me yeah, we were. We were bright

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yellow shirts and bright green shirts and run around making

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a ton of noise all day, laughing and having fun.

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And uh, this year, I set up a little surprise

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for them. Uh that actually worked one night, didn't work

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the second night, but it worked great the first night.

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And if you want to get into how that.

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Day progressed, and absolutely, yeah, I'd say, let's get right

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into it. It's curious. How so you guys, it's you're

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you're not trying to hide at all. I mean you are.

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You're talking loudly, you're laughing. It's obvious you guys are there.

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Yeah. Yeah, we make a ton of noise and I

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have game calls that I use when I go up

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the trails that are extremely loud. Yeah, we're we're not

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trying to be quiet at all in any way, shape

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or form. And we're not wearing anything green or anything

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you know, like camo or anything like that, none of that.

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Wearing bright colors, looking like campers out camping and having fun.

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But our intent is not to hunt them, you know,

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we're not We're not out to bag one unless you're

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counting getting them on video. But uh, but that's the

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extent of it and and I think that they I

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think that they pick up on that five and so

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it seems to be working every Virtually every time we

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go up we have an encounter or sighting. So Garry,

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you not just there, we we have sighting belsewhere too,

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but that that place guaranteed.

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Yeah, when you I just had a question, come at

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it nowhere. So when you are bringing people into this

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yearly gathering, then are you checking with them to make

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sure that they have the same intention as as the

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rest of the group would have, Like what what are your.

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What?

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What do you how do you feel towards Bigfoot? Is

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the thing where you're trying to take one down? Or

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is that? Is that something that you ever do? Like

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an interview for potential people when they come out.

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Well, the group is always really small. It consists of

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my friend John who have been going up he's been

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coming up there for like five years, Joe b Lark

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who's been coming up there for five years, Joe's wife Sharon,

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Joe Joe's other friend, Tom Powell. I've met Tom through

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Joe and and Tom's wife I met it while they

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were engaged. She was still his girlfriend at the time,

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and now she's they're married. My brother I've invited up

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once or twice. Uh so everybody that I know I've

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known for for years now. But when I first met him,

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I did ask them, you know, what would your intentions be,

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you know with these things? I don't. I don't. I

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don't want to see any firearms. Plus it's illegal to

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have them to shoot them up there on this this

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particular plot of land. It's a federal piece of property.

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So but uh but I I I do ask, you know,

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you know, and and they've flat up told me you

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know that they're they have no intention of ever hurting one.

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And in fact, some of them are wondering why I

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keep leaving when we see them, and they if the

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thing's still standing there, why I don't try to talk to.

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It or or do hell interesting?

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And I just tell them, well, because even though you know,

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I keep going back up the durn things terrify me.

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So I don't. I don't want to be that close

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to one, but I don't mind. I'm okay with seeing them,

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you know, one hundred feet away or more. I'm good

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with that. That's about as close as I think I

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ever need to get. Really, But that's all the closer

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they seem to come to me. I haven't had any

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come up real close to me, and I'm kind of

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actually thankful for that. I don't know that I want

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to look them in the face, you know, or have

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them look at my face close.

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It sounds like that did happen this year, not to

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not to go ahead, but it sounds like there was

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someone who actually got pretty close. Well we'll talk about

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that in a bit. Yeah, yeah, about a foot doing this,

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but yeah, take us through how Friday went and and

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uh and and how things progressed.

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I guess, okay, so we again we race the durance sources.

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we go for a day trip to take the horses

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up to some trails we can run on.

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tire bike I built that I can run with the horse.

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horses have won quite a few races. We keep them

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pretty fit. So anyways, we're really used to camping and

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we could set up a site really fast, get comfortable.

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a big slide and it's like a hotel room and side.

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when we rolled into camp, we set up, we get

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the horses out. We have portable corrals we can put up.

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water and whatnot, and then after they rest a bit,

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we walk them out to get their legs stretched out.

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But that afternoon and I'm gonna start looking down a

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little bit because so much happened that if I don't

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write it down, I uh, I'll lose something. And I

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don't want to do that. I was taught by Joe B.

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Lark and h my friend John to after you have

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an encounter, write down everything you can remember so you

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don't forget it because time passes and then you forget

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a detail that that that later it comes to you,

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Oh yeah, I remember these strange sounds that we're over

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here or whatever. And I don't want to lose any

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of it, just because there's so much to it, you know,

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even the smallest thing I like to I like to

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keep notes on. So so I have about about six

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pages of notes. Most of it's on Friday, because that's

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when we have multiple sightings. So so anyways, the place

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we go into, as you've seen on previous videos, I

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call it Scukum Ridge. It's it's fairly close to Mount

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Hood and uh it's it's on a lot low pass

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just off the Sandy River. There's about a hundred creeks

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that go into the Sandy and is this area is

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along along one of the creek. And so anyways, we

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get camp set up and then the gentleman named Rob

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that introduced me to super nice guy. I wanted to

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bring somebody knew up that I hadn't had up before,

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and and I asked if he knew somebody, and you

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recommended Rob. And Rob asked if he could bring his

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two teenagers. I kind of screamed him a little bit

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just to find out, you know, you're you're not out

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to kill one of these things, or you know, I

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really don't want people shooting at him while I'm around.

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I like them. They they so far, they've been harmless

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to me. It doesn't mean all of them are harmless.

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It's just these ones have not made any attempt to

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hurt me, and they they could have dozens of times

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by now, So that doesn't mean they never will. It

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just means they haven't to this point. So anyways, I

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just don't want anybody shooting at him. So so Rob,

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Rob seemed like a super nice guy. Uh he agreed

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to my conditions and and he showed up to camp

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and in his pickup truck, and he had he brought

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bicycles up because I told him bring bikes because we

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got to go away. Out is where the most activity is.

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take you out to where you know these spots are.

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My friend John showed up shortly after. And John pulls

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this small small trailers has it's really cool a little anyways,

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it's a real small trailer that he could sleep in,

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and it's got camping stove, the stuff mounted on the

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outside of it, off the back, and a hatch that opens.

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It's pretty cool. I'm telling you some of this information

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because we're going to circle back to it because it

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has meanings here in a bit. So anyways, then after that,

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my brother showed up. My big brother is retired military.

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He was in the army, was in Iraq and Kuwait

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war and came back and super nice guy. He worked

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with vets up at Liberty Lake for years, helping him

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get off drugs and and find jobs and do different

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things and study psychology. He's really he's really a super intelligent,

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super nice guy. Now he's retired and does a lot

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of photography, has some excellent cameras. So anyways, he's a skeptic.

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He's never seen one. It's not that he didn't think

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they existed, he's just never seen one. So he didn't

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know you know much about him other than he's heard

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stories because he's up at Fort Lewis is where he's

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been at, so he's heard quite a few big Foot stories.

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In fact, one or two terrifying ones that I can

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I can tell some other times. But so anyways, he

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showed up in his suv. He decided he's going to

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sleep in back of that instead of staying at tent.

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And and so we we kind of spread out a

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little bit and everybody got comfortable and and we we

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started we ate er, and I put up a little whiteboards.

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My girlfriend says, everybody always asks you, you know, what do

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we do next? What do we do next? And honestly,

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even though this is kind of an expedition of sorts,

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it's pretty pretty informal, you know, we're just taking our

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horses up to exercise them and camping and have fun,

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and it just kind of grew into more than that.

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And what's what's nice is none of my friends want

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to step on my toes when it comes to you know,

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what type of thing we're going to do while we're

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there to attract them. Because the horses attractive, we take

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the horses out and try to attract them back in,

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and then after dark things typically happen in camp. They

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kind of follow the horses back to camp. So and

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that happens pretty much every year we go. There's a

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lot of bigfoot horse activity up there. A lot of

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people on horse have seen them. One lady got fucked

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off a horse and in the middle of the river

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and the horse took off went a long way. It's

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pretty common for trail riders and endurance writers to go

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up there and practice. So, like I said, there's been

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multiple people that have broke camp and went home after

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a siding and then told, like the guy down at

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the service station just down the hill, they're getting the

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heck out of Dodge because of something they saw up there. Also,

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Cliff Bergman's the guy that works for him in his museum.

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He had a siding and really pretty much right in

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the same camp area we camp in, really a couple

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hundred feet away, he had one. I think it was

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like six years ago something like that, And I mean

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maybe not exactly, but right about them, right right in

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the same camp area that we like to camp in.

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It's really nice, really nice area. It's between two creeks

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and it's really cool. This year, I decided to try

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something different. And what I decided to do is I

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was going to put up a two man tent I've got.

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I I called it the bait tent. So what I

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did is I put it kind of away from us,

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further down the creek, on this little ridge right above

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the creek. It's like maybe one hundred seventy five hundred

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feet up the embankment above the creek, but overlooks the creek.

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And what I did is, I we just rebuilt our

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swimming pool and I got some solar lights for it

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that flash all different colors and stuff. And I got

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this really big one that it stays on all night

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once you get it charged up, and it's right, I mean,

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it's super bright and it flashes like six different colors.

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So I put that in there, and it's got a

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sensor that it dark and automatically turns on and it

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light it turns off. So so anyways, I put that

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inside the tent. And I should have put a microphone

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in there. The first night, honestly, we hackt so much

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stuff I couldn't find them and then everything started happening

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and I I just faced it. But so anyways, I

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put that in and we also put some snacks out

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on the table. We put a table next to it

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and made it look like a camper was there, had

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dreams and things out, just to see if sense of

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wind mess with it. And that was the only light

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in that area. I also brought up other lights. And

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so over where Rob was camping, he was he was

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on a hillside away from me, slightly over a ridge,

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and him and the two boys had backed their truck

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into the spot and they had their bikes leaned against

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some trees and they had a had a table and

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chairs out, and I put a strobe light facing down

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towards the forest because they were the closest to Skukum

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Ridge and they have this like one hundred foot patch

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of grass between them and the and the big trees.

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So I put the strobe light facing down towards those trees,

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and then they could be seen from the top of

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Skukum Ridge because it's kind of open right there, so

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the light would shine all the way up that ridge.

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So I have this little it's a little Halloween stroke

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that runs on double A batteries. But that darn thing.

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You put two batteries and it'll probably run a week straight,

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but it just flashes real bright strokes. And I'll get

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to why this matters later. And then and then I

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put in two more pool lights over there that were smaller,

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or three three pool lights that were smaller. One of them,

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I sat on one of the bicycle seats and the

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bike was leaning against a tree. It was really sturdy

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where it was sitting, and I set this light on it.

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I mean, it'd be really hard to knock it over,

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but it did get knocked over by something that night,

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so I'll keep moving forward. So so anyways, so got

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lights set up in their camp, got lights set up

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down at the bait thing, and then our trailer has

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LEDs along it and we leave those on at night,

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so lots of we're well lit. Across you know, this

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big area, across the whole area and over the ridge,

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and my brother was was he had his suv parked

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about I'd say it's about eighty feet away from our

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trailer kind of. There's a small small ravine between him

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and the bake tent and not many treaties. It's pretty

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clear line inside, and so he could see the bait

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tent and he could see the table that was set

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up next to it. So it starts to get darker.

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We ate dinner, and then the night plan was to

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take the bikes and the pony out and make some

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noise and then come back in. We're going to go

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up what I call the front side of Scucam Ridge,

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which is the safe side. It's a really wide trail

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and no cliffs to fall off of, or at least not, manny,

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it's pretty safe, safe way to go. And because I

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had two teenagers with me, I wanted it to be

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fairly safe. So I take the I take the boys

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with me. I keep looking back and I'm on, you know,

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I'm electric powered, electric assist, and so I'm you know,

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not even breathing hard going up this hill, and these

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kids are just huffing and puffing, and it was it was,

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it was almost humorous. But all the way up, I'd

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given them I have a coyote call, and I got

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crow calls. I got all these game calls, and we're

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just blowing them left and right, just making a ton

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of noise. And we're wearing fluorescent yellow shirts and laughing.

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And I had them yell at each other, you know,

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in fun, you know, not yell at each other, but

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with each other, making jokes and different things. And we're

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just we're just trying to have fun. Going up this ridge.

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We went about we're probably a mile out from camp,

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and we're way up in this ridge, but tons of switchbacks.

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It's really steep and heavily heavily wooded, heavy heavy brush

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in there too. And we get we get pretty far

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up and I keep thinking, I've been up there several times,

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and I couldn't remember how much further it was off

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up this one ridge, where off the other side is

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this huge valley you can see across to another ridge

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that is by some by some almost waterfalls. It's it's

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it's so rocky and so much water passes over it.

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They're almost like waterfalls, but Anyways, I was trying to

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get up to that point, but I could see I

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was wearing those kids out, and man, they were huffing

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and puffing. And I asked, if you want to go

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back to like, no, let's keep going. It's like, are

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you sure, and they're oh, yeah, I did that about

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four times and not the fifth time. They're huffing a

454
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bus and yeah, let's let's go. Let's okay, we're shutting around.

455
00:25:47.640 --> 00:25:49.559
I don't want to get in trouble with your dad.

456
00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:54.519
So and and because of how heavily wounded it was,

457
00:25:54.599 --> 00:25:56.680
I mean, it looked pretty dark in there. I'm thinking,

458
00:25:56.680 --> 00:25:59.720
oh crap. I mean, some went down fast, you know,

459
00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:02.279
way faster than I you know, I thought it would,

460
00:26:02.440 --> 00:26:04.559
but it was how thick the trees were. It wasn't

461
00:26:04.799 --> 00:26:07.160
really the synagone down. It was still plenty of light

462
00:26:07.200 --> 00:26:08.960
at the bottom of the hill, but not up in there.

463
00:26:09.799 --> 00:26:11.240
So we turn around. We started to go down the

464
00:26:11.319 --> 00:26:14.240
hill and that's that's where it all begans. So we're

465
00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:18.519
we're coming off this ridge and you have to go slow.

466
00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:20.640
It's just so steep you'll burn your brakes up and

467
00:26:20.920 --> 00:26:23.160
eat and the kids were walking anyways, it was too

468
00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:28.720
steep for their breaks, and and we started it. We

469
00:26:28.839 --> 00:26:31.160
got like three quarters of the way down the hill,

470
00:26:31.200 --> 00:26:34.720
and about the last quarter we started hearing toad noises,

471
00:26:35.039 --> 00:26:40.519
like a single crook like h. But it didn't sound

472
00:26:40.599 --> 00:26:43.240
like a toad. But it's only animal I could equate

473
00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:46.720
it to that was even close would be a toad.

474
00:26:46.960 --> 00:26:50.240
But it would do it one time and then no more.

475
00:26:51.559 --> 00:26:55.400
So we'd hear like one hundred feet away off to

476
00:26:55.440 --> 00:27:01.920
the side here h, And then like keep going down

477
00:27:01.920 --> 00:27:06.519
the trail, and and like two minutes later, over to

478
00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:10.839
the other side of the trail, we'd hear yeah. And

479
00:27:12.160 --> 00:27:15.319
like I said, it's way deeper than that, way deeper

480
00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:19.319
and and and a little bit more like a toad.

481
00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:22.279
But I've been going up there since twenty nineteen and

482
00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:24.640
I've never heard a toad up there before. There's these

483
00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:27.200
little tiny tree frogs running around that crooked down by

484
00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:29.880
the creek, but nothing up in the trees. There's no

485
00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:33.119
water for you know, half a mile. I don't know

486
00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:35.079
why a toad would want to be in the deep

487
00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:39.839
force where there's no fluid. So anyways, the toads followed

488
00:27:39.880 --> 00:27:42.799
us down the hill. So we're going down the hill

489
00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:44.599
and then every once a while you hear one side

490
00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:48.440
or the other you hear, and then after a while

491
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:51.200
you hear you're out. But never never two in one

492
00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:56.119
spot like toads. Normally we'll do a second call. These didn't.

493
00:27:56.759 --> 00:28:00.440
They just made a single call so they can. Okay, Well,

494
00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:04.160
that's that's just odd, that's strange. Never heard toads up

495
00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:07.400
here before. And they don't really sound like toads, but

496
00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:11.680
that's the only thing I can equate it to. And

497
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:14.720
so we get back down to camp, and once we

498
00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:17.559
got out of the thick trees, it wasn't pitch black anymore.

499
00:28:17.599 --> 00:28:20.559
It was a little bit of light left. And we

500
00:28:20.680 --> 00:28:24.759
crossed the rest of these little meadows and ravines and stuff,

501
00:28:24.799 --> 00:28:28.400
and then got back to got back to camp. So

502
00:28:29.559 --> 00:28:34.039
back at camp, we're sitting there talking, you know, and

503
00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:37.720
the kid's dad asked them, Hey, did you guys see anything,

504
00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:40.480
and they're like, no, didn't really see anything, but we

505
00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:43.039
heard these strange toads. And then all of a sudden,

506
00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:49.720
out of know where, this toad call comes like maybe

507
00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:52.680
two hundred feet down the hill from where their truck is,

508
00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:59.920
not near water, just down a hill. Rah. And then

509
00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:04.319
and just one one croak. That's it. And then about

510
00:29:04.759 --> 00:29:06.880
we're talking to stuff a few minutes we're like, oh, yeah,

511
00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:10.920
we heard these weird toads. And about five minutes later,

512
00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:14.799
off to the other side over here down the hill

513
00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:21.000
again from us. Yeah, single croak, never two, never tune

514
00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:24.279
one spot, and it's like the toad would move and

515
00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:27.160
go to a whole new spot, but he never sat

516
00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:28.799
in one place and was trying to call in a

517
00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:30.759
mate or anything, and it just would croak a single

518
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:34.920
time and that was it. So maybe toads. I don't know.

519
00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:38.920
I've never heard them up there before, really strange sounding.

520
00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:41.119
I have the I have the second night, I have

521
00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:43.839
them recorded, so I'll give you some toad calls.

522
00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:46.039
Oh awesome, that would be cool.

523
00:29:46.960 --> 00:29:50.000
Yeah, I should. I should have a couple recorded for it.

524
00:29:50.599 --> 00:29:52.599
Exaucept the second night, I put a mic over where

525
00:29:52.599 --> 00:29:54.279
the kids were and stuff. I didn't want to go

526
00:29:54.359 --> 00:29:58.039
too heavy with electronics the first night because you put

527
00:29:58.119 --> 00:30:01.000
up game cams and they don't come around. Put a

528
00:30:01.039 --> 00:30:05.720
microphone and they avoid it too. Mostly Now, if you

529
00:30:05.759 --> 00:30:08.400
put up a microphone where there's lots of other stuff,

530
00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:11.519
like people stuff, they may miss it. But like if

531
00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:14.160
you set it out on a stop or whatever. I've

532
00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:18.279
had them. I've had something come up and knock it

533
00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:21.519
over and knock the batteries out of it. I don't

534
00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:23.720
know how you get it open to knock the batteries out,

535
00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:26.720
but somehow the squirrel or whatever figured out how to

536
00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:30.279
open the little door on it too. So that was strange.

537
00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:32.440
But so I didn't I didn't go real heavy with

538
00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:35.279
electronics because we had people on the ground and whatnot.

539
00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:37.440
That was good enough. Let's I trained the lights out.

540
00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:43.480
So so we, uh, we we get to our campsites,

541
00:30:43.559 --> 00:30:46.039
and I go over and hang out with the you know,

542
00:30:46.079 --> 00:30:49.240
with the kids and the dad for a while, and

543
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:51.640
they're cooking at some dinner and I just said, well,

544
00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:53.680
I'm gonna I'm gonna go back and make some more food.

545
00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:58.519
And my friend John is back there, my brother and

546
00:30:58.960 --> 00:31:02.640
my girlfriend or are back at our camp and they're

547
00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:05.880
sitting around. I brought a propane fire thing that I got,

548
00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:09.359
so we have a fire pit. We're sitting around laughing

549
00:31:09.480 --> 00:31:14.200
and talking about the toads and stuff. And you could

550
00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:17.599
see you could clearly see the bait tent. It's like

551
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:21.000
it's less than two hundred feet away from it's about

552
00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:24.519
one hundred feet hundred and fifty feet away from our setup,

553
00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:28.160
and it's just flashing bright. Oh gosh, that thinks so

554
00:31:28.200 --> 00:31:32.240
bright you could probably see it from space. And every

555
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:34.559
time it flashes the bright colors, that lights up the

556
00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:37.640
whole creep bed for several hundred feet around it, and

557
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:43.240
it's pretty cool. So anyways, starts to get a little

558
00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:47.359
bit later, and now it's about eleven or so, and

559
00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:51.960
I agree with my friend John that we should get

560
00:31:51.960 --> 00:31:53.559
some rest and we could wake up, you know, late

561
00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:58.400
night and listen for noises or you know, we both

562
00:31:58.440 --> 00:32:04.200
have thermals and so he can run the therms and

563
00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:07.240
and see if we see anything, which we never did

564
00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:09.640
with the therms the whole time there, which was strange,

565
00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:15.559
but it happens. So anyways, we everybody crashes out. My

566
00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:20.720
brother decided to park on the other side of my

567
00:32:20.759 --> 00:32:24.400
friend John close to the bait tent. He's he's like

568
00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:27.319
eighty feet away from it, and he's parallel to it,

569
00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:30.079
so all this side windows on his passenger side are

570
00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:34.720
facing towards the bait tent and he can't sleep, so

571
00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:37.680
he stayed up all night basically sat up, and I

572
00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:39.359
don't know if he's reading or what he was doing.

573
00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:42.720
But he stayed up all night and he was he

574
00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:44.839
focused on the bait tent. He's kind of watched him.

575
00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:50.000
And so so most of us go to sleep. My

576
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:55.400
brother stays up, and and Rob and his kids they

577
00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:58.839
go to sleep in the back of in the back

578
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:01.839
of their truck. They have I think it's a long bed. Anyways,

579
00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:03.720
they had sleeping bags and a map back there, so

580
00:33:03.759 --> 00:33:06.960
they're they're hunker down. It's an extended cab, but you

581
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:09.640
can't really sleep inside the cab much. It's not real comfortable.

582
00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:13.480
And they had their bikes leading against some trees and

583
00:33:13.519 --> 00:33:19.160
stuff for the night. So anyways, everybody kind of kind

584
00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:25.279
of lays down and then things start happening. So at

585
00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:31.920
about at about midnight or actually I think it was

586
00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:34.480
about one am, my brother said he saw a movement

587
00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:38.200
down by the bait tent and what he saw was

588
00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:43.720
figures walking around the tent. And he says they were

589
00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:49.000
too big for people, too massive, and they were jet black,

590
00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:58.039
all monotone, you know, and obviously not people. He said

591
00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:03.519
they had long arms, cones, heads, big, big, big shoulders,

592
00:34:03.519 --> 00:34:07.480
big individuals walking around the tent, and he thought they

593
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:11.280
were pretty big he estimated like eight feet tall seven

594
00:34:11.320 --> 00:34:17.840
eight feet tall, pretty easy, really broad. The light was

595
00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:21.079
behind them though, so all he could see was silhouettes.

596
00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:24.880
But it tripped him out because he didn't really expect

597
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:28.719
to really see any of these things up there. And

598
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:31.039
like I said, he's a skeptic, and his whole family

599
00:34:31.079 --> 00:34:33.440
or skeptics. They laugh about it and joke about it.

600
00:34:34.119 --> 00:34:40.159
Well not anymore. So anyways, he's watching these things. And

601
00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:44.519
he said that over the next couple hours, they would

602
00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:46.559
leave for a while, then they'd come back and walk

603
00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:49.159
around the tent and they'd be looking down. There's a

604
00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:53.239
clear patch on the top of the tent. It has

605
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:56.239
like four sides to it, and one of them has

606
00:34:56.239 --> 00:34:58.599
a triangle that's clear, so you can actually see in

607
00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:02.119
the tent above it. And they kept leaning over and

608
00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:07.119
looking through that, and he said so over the next

609
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:09.199
couple of hours he couldn't sleep at all because he

610
00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:14.639
saw these silhouettes and he's he's just tripping. He didn't

611
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:18.320
know whether to leave or what to do. You know.

612
00:35:18.360 --> 00:35:22.000
He he doesn't carry any guns or anything. He's after

613
00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:24.480
the war, he went, he just doesn't want anything to

614
00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:28.719
do with him. But so his only thing he could

615
00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:31.800
do is really leave, but he decided to hang out

616
00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:33.760
because they kept leaving and then they'd come back, but

617
00:35:33.800 --> 00:35:36.480
they stayed over there by by the bag tent, and

618
00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:38.400
they kept coming up the hill and then walking around

619
00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:41.760
the tent, and they'd go to the table and mess

620
00:35:41.800 --> 00:35:45.719
with stuff on the table and and then go back

621
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:48.400
to the tenant. So he watched it, you know, and

622
00:35:48.920 --> 00:35:52.760
I don't know the exact timeframe. From what I remember,

623
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:54.840
I think he said it was between one and three o'clock.

624
00:35:56.320 --> 00:35:58.440
And then he said there was just a you know,

625
00:35:58.480 --> 00:36:02.119
it's just dead quiet. You know, he had his windows

626
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:04.800
cracks so he had airflow, and he said it was

627
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:07.480
just dead quiet. You couldn't hear a thing, just silence,

628
00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:12.480
which was weird because there's there's frogs down by the

629
00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:16.039
creek and there's those little ones that you know, one

630
00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:17.760
alone doesn't make much noise, but when you get a

631
00:36:17.800 --> 00:36:20.280
thousand of them, they do. And he says he can

632
00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:23.000
really hear them. He just he just he said, it

633
00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:27.559
was like, you know, just silent. So anyways, and and

634
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:30.840
of course he's up on kind of away from the

635
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:33.159
big tent, is at the top of this this ridge

636
00:36:33.159 --> 00:36:36.239
that goes to the creek and he's kind of on

637
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:38.960
the other side of another small ridge, about about eighty

638
00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:43.519
feet away, seventy feet away from it. So I don't

639
00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:45.360
know if the sound from frogs to carry there, but

640
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:47.000
I would think it kind of weak. And so he

641
00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:49.519
said it dead quiet, and he hadn't seen him for

642
00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:55.360
like a half hour. They stopped kind of circling the

643
00:36:55.400 --> 00:36:58.000
tent that that activity kind of died out about a

644
00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:03.559
half hour. And then and this happens. He's he's looking

645
00:37:03.800 --> 00:37:07.159
down the hill. He has his back resting against the

646
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:12.400
back of the front seat, and he's turned facing the

647
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:21.280
camp and then all of a sudden, something bumps the

648
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:25.440
side of his truck, his suv, and he said, it

649
00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:28.440
bumped it hard. It just rocked the whole thing. And

650
00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:31.559
he looked over and he saw what he said was

651
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:34.960
about a nine to ten foot tall bigfoot walk right

652
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:40.239
alongside the right, right alongside his glass, like brushing down

653
00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:44.639
the side of his suv. And he says, you you know,

654
00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:46.880
he couldn't see his shoulders or anything because it's way

655
00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:51.320
above his highlanders. Actually, the glass sits pretty high up.

656
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:53.519
You know, it's like six I'm going to ask me

657
00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:56.199
about sixteen. They are to the top of the windows

658
00:37:56.239 --> 00:37:59.480
in the suv in the back and the side windows,

659
00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:02.599
you know, in the passenger seats and driver's seat. Well,

660
00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:05.320
he said, you all you can see was it, you know,

661
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:09.079
like its elbows as it went by, and and like

662
00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:14.760
its lower chest. And he said it was just just massive,

663
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:21.320
just massive, and you know arms, you know, besides the

664
00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:26.480
telephone poles. Uh, just just huge. And anyways, it walks

665
00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:32.920
alongside of his rig and he's just terrified and he's

666
00:38:33.000 --> 00:38:38.119
watching it walk past, and it gets out in front

667
00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:42.519
of his suv and just keeps walking straight because the

668
00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:45.559
gravel road that kind of hooks off to the left,

669
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:47.840
well kept going straight instead of staying on the road,

670
00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:50.679
which which he was on the side of. It went

671
00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:54.599
straight down into some trees and about one hundred feet

672
00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:57.239
away it disappeared into the trees completely. You know, there's

673
00:38:57.239 --> 00:38:59.679
so many trees there. He watched the walk off and

674
00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:04.239
he said, you know, four foot five foot wide, shoulders,

675
00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:11.480
comb shaped head, jet black and uh, off it went off.

676
00:39:11.480 --> 00:39:12.719
It went down into the trees.

677
00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:16.880
They had a clear view of it for an extended Yeah, it.

678
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:19.440
Was right at the front of his you know, right

679
00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:22.280
alongside his rig. So I was right. It was just

680
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:24.360
on the other side of the glass from him, and

681
00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:27.039
you know, he was on the passenger side. It went

682
00:39:27.079 --> 00:39:34.800
down the driver's side, but yeah, three feet away, so

683
00:39:35.320 --> 00:39:38.800
and it was he said he thought it was brushing

684
00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:42.880
against the car, but it was that close. But it

685
00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:45.440
might have, he thought maybe because it was so massive.

686
00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:48.320
We looked the next day and there's dirt down the

687
00:39:48.320 --> 00:39:51.119
side of his cars. He's went down a dirt road,

688
00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:54.280
but there's no sign of anything brushing up against it. Okay,

689
00:39:55.480 --> 00:39:58.760
So so anyways, Uh, the thing walks by, it walks off,

690
00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:03.559
walks down the hill, and it's just an overload for him.

691
00:40:03.639 --> 00:40:05.880
It was just too much. As soon as it went

692
00:40:05.960 --> 00:40:08.599
down in the trees. For after about five minutes, he

693
00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:10.440
hopped out of the back seat, hopped in the front,

694
00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:11.039
and drove off.

695
00:40:11.880 --> 00:40:14.000
He just said he was out, like he left.

696
00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:19.159
Yeah, yeah, wow. And and and dude, he fought in

697
00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:25.559
the you know yeah, and uh yeah, he's he's seen

698
00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:27.440
some action, but he said those things, it was just

699
00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:30.960
too much. Brought back a lot of woman And I mean,

700
00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:33.599
he's such a wonderful guy, such a great guy, and

701
00:40:33.719 --> 00:40:38.039
formed two to you know be that. Yeah, that's that

702
00:40:38.199 --> 00:40:40.159
much of an overload. It was just it was just

703
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:43.199
a lot. What's that?

704
00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:44.840
Is he okay now or.

705
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:47.760
Oh yeah, yeah? He was fine the next day, he

706
00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:49.639
just said it was just too right in that moment.

707
00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:52.079
So in that moment, he hopped in the front seat

708
00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:54.760
and drove off, and he brought his camera gear and stuff. Again,

709
00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:57.639
he's photographer, So he decided he would just because he

710
00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:00.440
didn't want to leave, you know, without saying by, and

711
00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:03.320
you know, after all the effort we made to help

712
00:41:03.400 --> 00:41:07.039
him get there and everything. But so he went up,

713
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:10.679
went further up towards Mount Hood, went up to Timberline

714
00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:12.960
and watched the sun come up. He got the Golden

715
00:41:13.000 --> 00:41:15.559
Hour photos of the mountain with snow on it. He

716
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:19.199
also drove down to a nearby lake and got photos

717
00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:21.079
of the Golden Hour on the lake and stuff, just

718
00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:24.559
beautiful photos. I mean, he's such a good photographer. And

719
00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:26.840
then later that morning he came back to camp and

720
00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:33.840
to tell us what happened. So I'll finish with his

721
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:36.599
story and then I'll move on with what else happened,

722
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:38.679
because there was more than him just seeing one. Other

723
00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:43.480
people did too. So So anyways, so that morning he

724
00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:46.239
comes back and he tells us what happened, and he's like,

725
00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:49.960
I'm you know, I don't know what to tell you.

726
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:52.679
I really didn't think I was going to see one,

727
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:55.280
and then I see multiple, and he just says, it's

728
00:41:55.320 --> 00:41:57.519
such an overload. I had to leave. It's just too much.

729
00:41:57.559 --> 00:41:59.840
He goes, you know, I just didn't know what they

730
00:41:59.840 --> 00:42:02.360
were going to do, you know, And this one was

731
00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:04.880
so big it could basically rip the truck and half stuff.

732
00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:07.320
You know, if it wanted me, it could have just

733
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:09.559
reached right in and grabbed me. So he's just I

734
00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:11.639
had to head leave, you know, it's just too much.

735
00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:14.480
So anyways, he had fun, he said, said he said

736
00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:16.760
he had fun going up the hill and getting the

737
00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:18.719
photos and stuff, and he was in he was in

738
00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:20.559
a good movie. When he got back, he could still

739
00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:26.559
Sully was shaken, but you know it wasn't. He hit

740
00:42:26.599 --> 00:42:33.280
it pretty well. So so anyway, he uh. He says

741
00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:35.320
that the hard part for him is going to be

742
00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:41.840
the his family laughs that and the fact that I say,

743
00:42:41.920 --> 00:42:44.920
I've seen these things and and they get a kick

744
00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:46.440
out of it, and they make fun of it. And

745
00:42:46.559 --> 00:42:49.480
I invite him every year to come up, and last

746
00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:51.000
year was the first year he came up. And he

747
00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:55.639
didn't have a siding that some of us did. And

748
00:42:55.760 --> 00:42:58.679
then this year when he came up, they're they're making

749
00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:00.440
fun of him. Well, you'd be sure to want to

750
00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:03.599
get a picture, you know. And so now he has

751
00:43:03.679 --> 00:43:06.679
this sighting and he just goes Gary, he goes, I

752
00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:09.119
have to go back to this to you know, my

753
00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:12.880
wife at her parents' house. And the first thing they're

754
00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:14.559
going to ask me when I come through the door

755
00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:17.679
is did you see one? Did you see one? And

756
00:43:18.239 --> 00:43:19.960
he said, He's just going to look away and tell

757
00:43:20.039 --> 00:43:22.800
him I do not want to talk about it. Wow.

758
00:43:23.960 --> 00:43:26.599
So he's just not even going to get into it

759
00:43:26.719 --> 00:43:29.559
with him because they're you know, they're skeptics and that

760
00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:31.000
you know, they'll think he's crazy.

761
00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:34.360
You know, it's terrible, terrible witnesses have to go through that,

762
00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:38.360
you know, like it's just it's the worst it is.

763
00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:41.239
But you know, now he gets me a little bit more,

764
00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:44.679
you know, because I lost a job because of this hobby,

765
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:48.159
just because I mentioned I've seen him. You know, the

766
00:43:48.280 --> 00:43:52.719
owner was like, well, you know, this is weird and

767
00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:58.239
I'm not comfortable. So uh uh, back to back to

768
00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:00.920
what happened. So my brother pulls out about three thirty

769
00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:02.800
in the morning, so it's still like about an hour

770
00:44:03.480 --> 00:44:07.320
or more till life. And that spot that he was

771
00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:11.679
in was like the best spot to see the bay tent, right,

772
00:44:12.440 --> 00:44:17.280
So this is what where it gets really weird. So

773
00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:20.480
my friend is between us and my brother's truck with

774
00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:25.320
his he has a suv pulling this this small camper trailer.

775
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:29.679
It's like four feet tall and you climb into it

776
00:44:29.719 --> 00:44:32.639
and it's got a like a queen size mattress inside

777
00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:35.320
of it, and all the camping stuff is in a

778
00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:38.920
hatch on the back of it. Jones and in his

779
00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:41.719
camper there, and he has the door open on that side. Well,

780
00:44:41.760 --> 00:44:46.480
the door's like three foot tall and about three foot wide. Anyways,

781
00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:48.280
he has a wide open he's flat an airflow in

782
00:44:48.360 --> 00:44:50.639
that night, plus he's listening for anything that happened to

783
00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:54.519
the bay tent. He slept through all that activity but

784
00:44:55.280 --> 00:44:57.360
until this, so about three thirty in the morning, this

785
00:44:57.519 --> 00:45:00.519
is what happens. At three thirty in the morning, A

786
00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:09.559
black suv pulls in, like suburban suv and solid black,

787
00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:17.519
and it pulls in of any place in this area

788
00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:20.840
that we're at. Because this road kind of wraps around

789
00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:23.719
and there's tons of parking spots and stuff of any

790
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:26.039
place to park. It parks in the spot my brother

791
00:45:26.239 --> 00:45:30.639
was in and it turns on this flashlight, which John,

792
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:35.360
John's ex military. John was a marine. John has seen

793
00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:38.679
pretty much any kind of flashlight there is, he said,

794
00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:42.400
he's never seen anything like this. He said. It was

795
00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:47.400
a white light that shot a white beam straightforward, like

796
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:50.559
you could see the light even though it wasn't dusty.

797
00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:53.239
It was so bright, just kind of lit and maybe

798
00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:55.199
it was dust, but he said it just lit up

799
00:45:55.239 --> 00:45:58.559
as a spotlight, but brighter than any spotlight he's ever seen.

800
00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:01.719
And it looked hand Hell said. And it shined right

801
00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:04.360
on right on the bake tent. It didn't shine it

802
00:46:04.719 --> 00:46:07.360
anywhere else but just around the big tent and the

803
00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:07.840
bake tent.

804
00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:08.400
That was it.

805
00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:11.639
So this thing comes in and John could hear it coming.

806
00:46:12.079 --> 00:46:15.719
It didn't even slow down anywhere. It just stopped right

807
00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:18.559
at the bake tent, shines its light at it. And

808
00:46:18.719 --> 00:46:24.800
then the weirdest thing happened. The light, my my expensive

809
00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:30.639
pool light solar light goes out like shuts off, stops working.

810
00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:34.280
It's still dark. As soon as it gets it with

811
00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:36.639
light it you know, it would turn off for a second,

812
00:46:36.679 --> 00:46:38.280
but it would turn right back on it and is

813
00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:40.519
the light you know. Plus you have to have a

814
00:46:40.599 --> 00:46:43.000
bright light to shine through a tent wall to shut

815
00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:44.719
this thing off, because I had to pointed in the

816
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:47.880
other direction. So I don't know. It's the weirdest thing.

817
00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:52.159
So John's watching this rig. It rolled its window down,

818
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:56.079
shine the light, it shining around it beamed it for

819
00:46:56.480 --> 00:46:59.159
he said, about a couple of minutes, and then it

820
00:46:59.280 --> 00:47:03.480
shut the light off and then drove off. Never came back,

821
00:47:03.679 --> 00:47:05.679
never came around again. Never saw it the next day,

822
00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:08.039
never saw it. Never saw it before that, never saw

823
00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:11.320
it after that. It just came into camps, into the

824
00:47:11.880 --> 00:47:15.000
road we're on and stopped the bait chance to shine

825
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:17.280
a light right at it. It was the strangest thing,

826
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:19.920
and I couldn't get that light to work again.

827
00:47:21.239 --> 00:47:26.880
I had being tracked or something. I this is wild stuff.

828
00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:31.400
I think someone is tracking tracking the Bigfoot in these

829
00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:34.599
areas based on the other conversation I had recently with

830
00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:35.320
an in back.

831
00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:39.960
But how would it know, I don't know. Yeah, So

832
00:47:40.199 --> 00:47:43.360
so anyways, because I mean, we had lights elsewhere going

833
00:47:43.440 --> 00:47:46.079
to and it didn't stop to look at those. It

834
00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:48.239
just stopped at the bait tip where the activity was

835
00:47:48.320 --> 00:47:50.599
where my brother just had you know, saw the things

836
00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:53.880
walking around it, and then the one you know, oh

837
00:47:54.400 --> 00:47:56.679
one last thing about my brother and then and then

838
00:47:56.760 --> 00:48:00.400
i'll uh them were off him. But that next day,

839
00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:03.559
when when he came back and he was telling me,

840
00:48:03.800 --> 00:48:05.599
you know what happened with his truck, we walked around

841
00:48:05.639 --> 00:48:08.159
his truck to see, you know, something brushed up against

842
00:48:08.199 --> 00:48:09.880
it if there are any you know, because there's a

843
00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:12.559
lot of dust on it, see if there's any handprints

844
00:48:12.679 --> 00:48:16.679
or whatever. Something had torn a piece off his roof rack.

845
00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:22.800
My brother is a fanatic about washing his car. He

846
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:27.119
probably washed it on the way back to town, but

847
00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:30.920
he would know if that piece was missing, because he

848
00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:34.320
washed his car before he came up and he's owned

849
00:48:34.360 --> 00:48:38.119
this thing for three years now, never had a problem,

850
00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:40.840
not wrong. And to get that piece off, you'd have

851
00:48:40.920 --> 00:48:43.679
to get a finger, you'd have to get a flathead

852
00:48:43.679 --> 00:48:47.719
screwdriver under it, basically to pop it. And something just

853
00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:51.000
ripped it right off. So and it was it was

854
00:48:51.039 --> 00:48:54.159
a plate. It's about it's about five inches long and

855
00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:57.000
about six inches deep, and it kind of kind of

856
00:48:57.039 --> 00:49:01.440
t bone shaped. But anyways, something managed to pop that off,

857
00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:04.199
and he thinks that that loud bumpy heard is reached

858
00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:07.920
over and grabbing that and popping it off. But that

859
00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:11.000
piece is gone. Now we made we made fun of it.

860
00:49:11.039 --> 00:49:12.760
We said, yeah, it's probably sitting in a big nest

861
00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:14.880
up there on top of scoop of ridge. You know.

862
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:19.559
I'll get back to that in a minute. So so anyways,

863
00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:22.280
so that was the end of his experience. Okay, so

864
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:25.719
that's this is Friday night. Still, So Friday night, not

865
00:49:25.880 --> 00:49:29.199
only did did see these things and have have one

866
00:49:29.280 --> 00:49:31.159
bump his rig and rip the piece off his rig,

867
00:49:33.960 --> 00:49:39.159
Rob had had had a sighting. So so Rob and

868
00:49:39.239 --> 00:49:42.360
his kids, you know, the same night, about midnight, one

869
00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:46.760
o'clock in the morning ish. Uh And and I'm going

870
00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:49.960
to try and tell tell it the way I heard it.

871
00:49:50.199 --> 00:49:52.760
I'm you know, I may have times off or something,

872
00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:56.000
but Rob, this is this is pretty much in a nutshell.

873
00:49:56.079 --> 00:49:58.599
This is what happened. I had a strobe light set

874
00:49:58.639 --> 00:50:01.000
up that was shooting down towards the tree line, and

875
00:50:01.119 --> 00:50:03.760
I had three colored lights, one sitting on a bicycle

876
00:50:03.800 --> 00:50:07.800
seat and two one on a picnic table and one

877
00:50:08.079 --> 00:50:11.639
on a post down below the strobe light. So the

878
00:50:11.679 --> 00:50:15.119
strobe light's like probably about forty feet down from his

879
00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:17.920
truck off to the side, kind of shooting out where

880
00:50:18.199 --> 00:50:22.199
it gets maximum exposure of this small meadow that has

881
00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:28.519
heavily wooded old groove right next to it. The light

882
00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:31.360
was really lighting that baby up, but I pointed it

883
00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:33.840
to where it would shine up on Scuokum Ridge, so

884
00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:36.599
if anything's up there, it might attract it down. Well

885
00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:40.199
it did so. Basically they were as they woke up

886
00:50:40.239 --> 00:50:46.199
from a light sleep, hearing tree branches break, not just

887
00:50:46.360 --> 00:50:50.079
a couple, but some real loud breaks woke them up,

888
00:50:50.519 --> 00:50:53.159
and I don't I can't remember if Rob woke up

889
00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:55.880
or his sun woke up first, but one of them

890
00:50:55.920 --> 00:50:57.639
will the other one up. And they both looked over,

891
00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:00.440
sat up and looked over the top of the truck

892
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:03.440
rail because they're asleep down in the truck. Looked over

893
00:51:03.519 --> 00:51:06.760
the truck railed down to where the strobe light was

894
00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:10.679
flash slashing, and they saw a figure he said it was.

895
00:51:11.800 --> 00:51:14.320
It looked like it was about eight feet tall, and

896
00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:19.119
it walked from left to right across the meadow. He

897
00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:24.280
said it was. They had They watched it for like

898
00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:28.360
seventy five feet and it walked between two trees, really brushy,

899
00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:32.719
smaller fir trees, but walked between them and it disappeared.

900
00:51:33.000 --> 00:51:37.000
But they both saw it and they're both just tripping

901
00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:39.679
on it. And the young I think it was his

902
00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:42.480
youngest son, the youngest teenager is saying, I want to

903
00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:44.119
sleep in the cab. I want to sleep in the cab,

904
00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:47.639
and Dad's going, no, you're you're better off out here.

905
00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:49.480
You know, the thing is so big it just reached

906
00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:54.159
reached through the cabin. Great kids, really really nice, nice,

907
00:51:54.239 --> 00:51:59.199
well mannered. He has great kids, really smart too. So anyways,

908
00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:04.800
they're like tripping, you know, they saw this thing, and

909
00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:08.800
but they managed to settle back down. They laid back

910
00:52:08.840 --> 00:52:10.800
down so they could listen, you know, for any more

911
00:52:11.079 --> 00:52:15.880
tree breaks or you know, any noises whatsoever. About an

912
00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:20.280
hour or so passes by, and the older teenager hears

913
00:52:20.519 --> 00:52:24.320
some tree branches breaking, and he sits up and looked

914
00:52:24.360 --> 00:52:29.039
over the bedroom and this is a whole different event.

915
00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:32.400
And the other two people are asleep, and he never

916
00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:36.000
spoke with them about what they saw or anything. I

917
00:52:36.039 --> 00:52:38.199
don't know if he just played dead or what he

918
00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:41.400
was doing. Yeah, when these others, I think the others

919
00:52:41.440 --> 00:52:43.199
were whispering though I don't think they were talking out

920
00:52:43.239 --> 00:52:47.679
loud anyways. So where he hears the tree branches breaking

921
00:52:47.760 --> 00:52:50.559
and stuff is where the first one had walked through,

922
00:52:51.480 --> 00:52:54.960
between two like twenty five or thirty five foot tall

923
00:52:55.079 --> 00:52:59.760
really bushy fir trees. He hears the tree branches breaking

924
00:52:59.800 --> 00:53:01.960
there and he sits up, but he looks over the

925
00:53:02.039 --> 00:53:05.440
bed and he sees one standing next to the tree,

926
00:53:06.239 --> 00:53:08.320
and he says it was like about an eight footer

927
00:53:09.719 --> 00:53:13.400
jet black. The strobe light would light it up, you know,

928
00:53:13.639 --> 00:53:15.719
well it'd light up the tree behind it, and you

929
00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:20.960
could see the silhouette of the black and I believe

930
00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:23.400
he said it had a cone shaped head, but it

931
00:53:23.480 --> 00:53:28.960
had yellow glowing eyes. And he said, the eyes just

932
00:53:29.480 --> 00:53:33.320
just glowed bright yellow. I've never seen eye shine before

933
00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:37.159
all the all the sightings I've had, I've never seen him.

934
00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:39.800
But he said it was definitely eye shine and it

935
00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:43.239
was yellow, and it was, you know, eight feet off

936
00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:46.280
the ground, and he could see, you know, the figures

937
00:53:46.320 --> 00:53:50.519
that it was coming off of. So that scared him

938
00:53:50.639 --> 00:53:53.440
so bad because it was just standing there, just staring.

939
00:53:54.199 --> 00:53:57.000
That one scared him so bad that he crept real

940
00:53:57.119 --> 00:53:59.719
quietly out out of the bed of the truck. And

941
00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:02.639
flipped into the cab of the truck and he slept

942
00:54:02.679 --> 00:54:03.840
in the cab the rest of the night.

943
00:54:04.199 --> 00:54:04.960
I don't blame him.

944
00:54:06.239 --> 00:54:13.559
And so then that was that was I think, yeah,

945
00:54:13.599 --> 00:54:16.360
I think that was everything that happened on Friday. So

946
00:54:17.400 --> 00:54:21.119
Saturday comes around and we're having breakfast, and these boys

947
00:54:21.159 --> 00:54:26.599
are excited, man, and Rob's excited, and everybody was talking

948
00:54:26.639 --> 00:54:31.920
about the activity that happened the night before, and and

949
00:54:32.079 --> 00:54:35.400
we're we're still waking up, and I'm making coffee and

950
00:54:35.519 --> 00:54:38.920
making coffee for everybody, and and I could I could

951
00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:41.360
hear everybody's already up. There was a commotion going. Sun

952
00:54:41.519 --> 00:54:44.480
was up, and they were you can just tell they

953
00:54:44.519 --> 00:54:46.639
were so excited that what they saw, you know, having

954
00:54:46.679 --> 00:54:52.159
a siding and everything. And I woke up and made coffee,

955
00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:55.400
and then they came over to our campsite and they

956
00:54:55.440 --> 00:54:57.400
told me, you know what I just told you, basically

957
00:54:57.559 --> 00:55:01.000
everything about their siding, about this. They get done doing that,

958
00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:04.280
my brother rolls in and he tells us about what

959
00:55:04.440 --> 00:55:08.239
he saw. And then not long after that, Joe Bee

960
00:55:08.320 --> 00:55:10.960
Lark shows back up. He showed up the day before

961
00:55:11.159 --> 00:55:14.960
for a quick visit and then took off. Well, he

962
00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:16.960
showed back up with his tent, and I was camp

963
00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:18.400
gared he was going to come up in the camp

964
00:55:18.480 --> 00:55:21.280
after all. We didn't think he was gonna make it,

965
00:55:21.440 --> 00:55:24.360
but he made it. He made it anyway, It's always

966
00:55:24.360 --> 00:55:26.800
fun having Joe up there. He always makes way too

967
00:55:26.880 --> 00:55:29.559
much good food and it shares it with everyone, so

968
00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:32.320
I don't mind sharing. It's an amazing cook and it's

969
00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:38.400
just fun. So anyways, we went out and we looked

970
00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:40.239
to see if we could find any tracks. There's no

971
00:55:40.400 --> 00:55:44.719
tracks anywhere. Tracks around the tent, no tracks anywhere. I

972
00:55:44.840 --> 00:55:50.559
did find up this really steep, mossy covered ridge right

973
00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:52.440
next to where the tent is, that drops down to

974
00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:56.400
the creek. I did find a trackway, and I'll circle

975
00:55:56.480 --> 00:56:00.320
back to it here in a bit. And the steps

976
00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:03.679
were about six feet apart, and it appeared like something

977
00:56:03.800 --> 00:56:06.280
dug in, like a human dug in with his toes

978
00:56:06.599 --> 00:56:09.480
and took six foot steps if a human had you know,

979
00:56:09.639 --> 00:56:14.559
feet that are you know, seven inches wide. But anyways,

980
00:56:14.679 --> 00:56:19.920
uh so I found found one trackway and then noticed

981
00:56:19.960 --> 00:56:21.719
that all the food I'd put out the night before

982
00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:25.800
was gone, all of it gone, and the plate was

983
00:56:25.880 --> 00:56:28.480
right where I said it hadn't moved an inch and

984
00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:35.360
the fork was jammed down in between the table in

985
00:56:35.480 --> 00:56:41.599
a strange way, and the cans were right where I

986
00:56:41.719 --> 00:56:43.920
left them. Everything everything else was right where we left it.

987
00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:46.960
So the plate didn't move, but it was empty, and

988
00:56:47.119 --> 00:56:49.920
it had had a piece of piece of steak on

989
00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:53.159
it had a lot of steak ribby juice because I

990
00:56:53.199 --> 00:56:55.800
cooked ribbis. I left it just full of ribby juice.

991
00:56:56.239 --> 00:56:58.800
And it was it was lick clean, I mean it

992
00:56:58.960 --> 00:57:02.599
was dry. There was no sign of oil, grease, nothing,

993
00:57:02.679 --> 00:57:06.639
I mean completely lick dry, which I just found amazing.

994
00:57:07.480 --> 00:57:09.440
I kept it. You know, if you ever have somebody

995
00:57:09.519 --> 00:57:11.840
that wants some bigfoot DNA or want to run something

996
00:57:11.880 --> 00:57:15.119
that possibly has it, I put it in a plastic

997
00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:18.719
bag and I have it frozen. If somebody ever wants

998
00:57:18.760 --> 00:57:21.760
to run DNA that listens to this channel, you're welcome

999
00:57:21.800 --> 00:57:24.880
to run this one. I have eyewitness that was saw

1000
00:57:24.960 --> 00:57:28.880
him walking around this table. So and I can't think

1001
00:57:28.960 --> 00:57:30.559
of anything that would lick a plate and put it

1002
00:57:30.679 --> 00:57:31.559
right back to where it was.

1003
00:57:32.360 --> 00:57:37.000
Wow, So you have a frozen plate that probably has

1004
00:57:37.199 --> 00:57:37.840
DNA on it.

1005
00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:43.599
Yes, Oh my goodness, elected So sure I believe that.

1006
00:57:43.840 --> 00:57:49.119
Yeah, we'll we'll be in touch about that. Okay, okay, yeah, okay, yeah,

1007
00:57:49.159 --> 00:57:53.119
well well yeah, I've got some ideas. That's really interesting, Gary.

1008
00:57:54.119 --> 00:57:56.320
Yeah, and I have a witness that they're around the table.

1009
00:57:56.400 --> 00:58:01.800
I have a military expert that saw them right there.

1010
00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:04.840
Now did they did the experts see them lick the plate?

1011
00:58:06.199 --> 00:58:09.960
I don't. I don't know that he did, but they

1012
00:58:09.960 --> 00:58:14.119
were right there, multiple bigfoots right there, and the plates clean,

1013
00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:17.159
and the plate was was not moved.

1014
00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:19.760
And it had like Ribi trippings on it, right.

1015
00:58:21.159 --> 00:58:23.559
Yeah, And it had had small pieces of Rabbi on

1016
00:58:23.639 --> 00:58:26.760
it to begin with, but they were gone. It had

1017
00:58:26.880 --> 00:58:29.760
it had Ribi grease probably a quarter inch deep that

1018
00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:34.239
covered like eight inches, I mean the entire bottom of

1019
00:58:34.280 --> 00:58:37.840
the plate, and it's all gone, all of it is gone.

1020
00:58:39.000 --> 00:58:41.840
They must like barbecue. So so anyways, yeah, I got

1021
00:58:41.920 --> 00:58:45.480
the plate. It's frozen in plastic. Never touched it, just

1022
00:58:45.519 --> 00:58:47.519
put it, put it in a plastic bag and frozen.

1023
00:58:48.760 --> 00:58:52.639
So yeah, if somebody wants some bigfoot DNA, I got some.

1024
00:58:53.000 --> 00:58:58.079
Probably be something to look into. Hopefully my house doesn't

1025
00:58:58.119 --> 00:59:01.599
get broken into. Now it's not in the house, it's.

1026
00:59:01.559 --> 00:59:05.800
It's down at the barn. Anyways, it really is down

1027
00:59:05.800 --> 00:59:09.039
at the barn. So so anyways, uh yeah, so so

1028
00:59:09.400 --> 00:59:13.400
the bait tent worked, uh you know that night anyway,

1029
00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:17.719
and uh, we we couldn't find any any you know,

1030
00:59:18.960 --> 00:59:21.119
any discernible tracks.

1031
00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:24.320
Saw little bits and pieces, but you couldn't really say

1032
00:59:24.360 --> 00:59:26.960
it with the track, you know, lots of flattened grounds,

1033
00:59:27.119 --> 00:59:36.800
that's nothing, nothing discernible. So Saturday was weird too. So

1034
00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:41.039
we we get we get Joe Wall settled in. Everybody

1035
00:59:41.119 --> 00:59:49.239
has some lunch and stuff and and we're all enjoying

1036
00:59:49.280 --> 00:59:52.400
the day. The kids are out riding their bikes and uh,

1037
00:59:53.360 --> 00:59:55.480
and my girlfriend decid she's gonna walk one of our

1038
00:59:55.519 --> 00:59:59.199
horses down by the creek. There's a trail that kind

1039
00:59:59.239 --> 01:00:02.639
of wraps around and and it crossed. There's a creek

1040
01:00:02.679 --> 01:00:08.960
crossing on a thousand feet below our camp and uh,

1041
01:00:09.239 --> 01:00:11.800
you have to there's lots of tons of trails back

1042
01:00:11.840 --> 01:00:13.519
in there though, And she just walked the horse on

1043
01:00:13.639 --> 01:00:20.039
these trails and was walking this pony. This pony hasn't

1044
01:00:20.079 --> 01:00:22.599
been under saddle yet. We're training it right now. It's

1045
01:00:22.719 --> 01:00:26.599
it's one of our up and coming racehorses. And so

1046
01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:29.519
it did its first creek crossing. It's it's never done

1047
01:00:29.559 --> 01:00:32.480
one before in its life, and it did so well.

1048
01:00:32.719 --> 01:00:37.039
It was just really impressive. But it's it's being very

1049
01:00:37.159 --> 01:00:39.760
calm and it's it's just it's doing what it's supposed

1050
01:00:39.760 --> 01:00:42.719
to do. And then it gets across the creek and

1051
01:00:42.840 --> 01:00:49.960
all of a sudden, the loudest power knock that that

1052
01:00:51.039 --> 01:00:54.480
you could imagine happened about fifty feet away and some

1053
01:00:54.880 --> 01:00:57.280
and some really thick brush just on the other side

1054
01:00:57.280 --> 01:01:01.559
of the creek. It was so loud. My girlfriend said,

1055
01:01:01.559 --> 01:01:04.039
there's no way somebody with a baseball bat could do that.

1056
01:01:04.360 --> 01:01:06.960
It was like ten times louder than a baseball bat

1057
01:01:07.039 --> 01:01:11.119
hitting a tree, and just it was a It shook

1058
01:01:11.159 --> 01:01:14.719
the ground. It was a power knock, and you know,

1059
01:01:14.800 --> 01:01:16.400
and I don't know if these things take a rock

1060
01:01:16.519 --> 01:01:17.920
and hit a tree to do that, I don't know

1061
01:01:17.960 --> 01:01:20.480
how they do it. But anyways, the knock was so

1062
01:01:20.679 --> 01:01:24.159
loud scared the daylights out of the horse, and the

1063
01:01:24.199 --> 01:01:27.719
horse bolted instantly ran up the trail, and then it

1064
01:01:27.800 --> 01:01:30.440
realized that my girlfriend was back behind him and he

1065
01:01:30.519 --> 01:01:33.599
doesn't know where he'd asked, so he stops about one

1066
01:01:33.639 --> 01:01:36.800
hundred feet up the trail and he's shaking the little

1067
01:01:36.920 --> 01:01:40.519
you know, he can tell he's justit nervous and looking around.

1068
01:01:40.559 --> 01:01:42.519
He's looking right where that knock was. The yours are

1069
01:01:42.639 --> 01:01:45.280
up and he's looking right at and she walks up

1070
01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:47.360
to him, calms him down, and then they keep walking

1071
01:01:47.480 --> 01:01:50.440
up the trail. Well, she heard knocks, tree knocks all

1072
01:01:50.480 --> 01:01:52.920
the way up on the other side of the creek.

1073
01:01:53.559 --> 01:01:56.079
Eventually it comes around and there's a bridge you can cross,

1074
01:01:56.119 --> 01:01:59.039
and she crosses the bridge back to the road that

1075
01:01:59.320 --> 01:02:04.239
you know that we're camping on. And uh so that happened,

1076
01:02:04.440 --> 01:02:06.599
and then from then the rest of the day on,

1077
01:02:06.880 --> 01:02:10.480
we could hear knock down down across the creek. The

1078
01:02:10.559 --> 01:02:13.239
rest of that day into the evening, you could hear

1079
01:02:13.320 --> 01:02:16.760
knocks all every every couple hours or so, and you'd

1080
01:02:16.800 --> 01:02:18.480
hear more of them, Like if one of us would

1081
01:02:18.519 --> 01:02:21.800
go out on a trail any direction, if you left

1082
01:02:21.840 --> 01:02:24.639
the camp in any direction, you start to hear knocks

1083
01:02:25.519 --> 01:02:28.960
down down by the creek, down in this area across

1084
01:02:29.000 --> 01:02:33.360
the creek from us. And so that was that was

1085
01:02:34.480 --> 01:02:39.519
that was kind of weird. So I went ahead for

1086
01:02:39.639 --> 01:02:41.079
the second night. I just said I was going to

1087
01:02:41.159 --> 01:02:43.800
set microphones out, and I did. I set I set

1088
01:02:43.840 --> 01:02:46.679
one in the bait can and I set one over

1089
01:02:47.480 --> 01:02:51.360
by the by the teams over where the toads were,

1090
01:02:52.039 --> 01:02:54.159
and I'm pretty sure I got to noises on tape.

1091
01:02:54.320 --> 01:02:56.480
I'll I'll give them to you if I if I

1092
01:02:56.679 --> 01:03:01.000
find them, you know, And if I that, some people

1093
01:03:01.039 --> 01:03:02.800
are like, well, what are you know now? Right now?

1094
01:03:02.880 --> 01:03:05.599
Why are we? You know? Honestly, I've been.

1095
01:03:05.559 --> 01:03:08.599
Doing this for I don't know how many years now,

1096
01:03:08.920 --> 01:03:11.679
and I'm not trying to make money off of it.

1097
01:03:12.159 --> 01:03:17.559
I'm not, you know, obviously, Yeah, and I'm interested.

1098
01:03:18.400 --> 01:03:20.840
For me, it's more the being right there and having

1099
01:03:20.880 --> 01:03:25.159
this happen is the exciting part to me. Having evidence

1100
01:03:25.239 --> 01:03:28.159
of it. It doesn't matter what evidence I present, people

1101
01:03:28.159 --> 01:03:30.320
aren't going to believe it anyway, So I just don't

1102
01:03:30.360 --> 01:03:33.079
care about that much other than yes, I do try

1103
01:03:33.119 --> 01:03:36.679
to gather it. I think it's fun, but you know,

1104
01:03:36.719 --> 01:03:41.719
I'm not trying to prove anything, so give or take

1105
01:03:41.760 --> 01:03:43.559
it as it is. And you know, the bad thing

1106
01:03:43.719 --> 01:03:46.800
is I have years of video with encounters of these things,

1107
01:03:47.559 --> 01:03:50.199
with sightings with with a video of one pushing a

1108
01:03:50.280 --> 01:03:54.119
tree over and and the one I'm about to get to.

1109
01:03:54.239 --> 01:03:56.639
I took video of this night to something, you know,

1110
01:03:56.679 --> 01:04:00.559
another siding and and I have a poster. Yeah, but

1111
01:04:00.679 --> 01:04:03.519
I'm going to this winter, I'm gonna I'm gonna upgrade

1112
01:04:03.599 --> 01:04:08.239
my site Bigfoot Research Project on YouTube and I'll upload

1113
01:04:08.360 --> 01:04:10.039
all of this up. There's just so it's all in

1114
01:04:10.159 --> 01:04:13.960
one place and then everybody can see it. But so anyways,

1115
01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:17.599
to get on with the day, I h it's starting

1116
01:04:17.639 --> 01:04:20.039
to get starting to get darker in the afternoon, and

1117
01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:23.400
I asked the kids if they'll go with me and

1118
01:04:23.719 --> 01:04:26.000
and Rob if they'll go with me up the backside

1119
01:04:26.199 --> 01:04:29.960
of Scuokam Ridge because that's where the most activity is

1120
01:04:30.159 --> 01:04:32.039
and we're going to pull them in on Saturday night.

1121
01:04:32.119 --> 01:04:34.840
That's where it's going to happen from. And my girlfriend says,

1122
01:04:34.880 --> 01:04:37.639
you know, let's take the pony. So she gets on.

1123
01:04:38.679 --> 01:04:43.199
She gets on our older horse, our our our champion,

1124
01:04:43.519 --> 01:04:48.679
and she's she rides it and she's running behind us

1125
01:04:48.800 --> 01:04:50.679
on the way in. I'm out front and I got

1126
01:04:50.800 --> 01:04:53.639
Rob and his two sons behind me on bike and

1127
01:04:53.719 --> 01:04:56.559
we go. It's about a mile out to where the

1128
01:04:56.599 --> 01:04:59.800
water crossing is the first river and you go across

1129
01:04:59.840 --> 01:05:02.719
the meadows where we've had sightings before in the meadows

1130
01:05:02.880 --> 01:05:06.440
on the way there, and there's nothing going on in them.

1131
01:05:06.480 --> 01:05:09.079
But we're making noise the whole way there again, you know,

1132
01:05:09.280 --> 01:05:12.800
crow calls, coyote calls, just making just a ton of noise, laughing,

1133
01:05:13.519 --> 01:05:17.199
you know, yelling each other, bright bright yellow shirt, you know,

1134
01:05:17.360 --> 01:05:21.519
bright green, you know, not hiding anything, not being sneaky whatsoever.

1135
01:05:22.079 --> 01:05:23.920
And the horse is coming up behind us, and you can,

1136
01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:25.840
you know, a thousand pounds horse you could hear from

1137
01:05:25.880 --> 01:05:28.119
a distance, you know, if you're standing anywhere near him,

1138
01:05:28.119 --> 01:05:30.920
you can feel them go by. So anyways, the horse

1139
01:05:30.960 --> 01:05:34.239
pounds by us, and we get down to the creek

1140
01:05:34.639 --> 01:05:37.599
and decide to make which I've done in the past,

1141
01:05:37.960 --> 01:05:41.000
make a teepee out of sticks, six foot tol sticks,

1142
01:05:42.320 --> 01:05:44.679
put some cross limbs through it, and I put bait

1143
01:05:44.760 --> 01:05:47.599
on it. I put apples and cookies and stuff on that.

1144
01:05:48.199 --> 01:05:52.360
So anyways, we do that and get I get it

1145
01:05:52.440 --> 01:05:57.239
all baited up and whatnot. And my girlfriend went ahead

1146
01:05:57.280 --> 01:05:59.679
and crossed the river on her horse to the other side.

1147
01:06:00.039 --> 01:06:02.599
Well there's two more before you go up the backside

1148
01:06:02.599 --> 01:06:05.760
of scooka bridge, and she was going to go ahead

1149
01:06:05.760 --> 01:06:08.480
and cross all three, just because we like keeping the horse,

1150
01:06:11.079 --> 01:06:15.199
you know, in shape, and the more water crossings you do,

1151
01:06:15.360 --> 01:06:17.440
the easier it is to get them to cross water like,

1152
01:06:17.599 --> 01:06:20.000
especially when you're racing. So we want to want her

1153
01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:22.280
to do as many crossing as we can. So she

1154
01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:24.840
crosses the first river, which is the biggest, she gets

1155
01:06:25.239 --> 01:06:29.639
starts going towards the second one, and the horse is startled.

1156
01:06:29.679 --> 01:06:32.920
It rears up and spins around and runs back to

1157
01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:36.000
the river. Does that river crossing, comes back to our

1158
01:06:36.119 --> 01:06:41.159
side and keeps looking back, and my girlfriend's going, there's

1159
01:06:41.159 --> 01:06:43.519
something right there. There's something just on the other side

1160
01:06:43.880 --> 01:06:47.920
of the river. Something's going on. This horse is not

1161
01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:50.199
afraid of bear, is not afraid of cougar. We see

1162
01:06:50.239 --> 01:06:53.960
them all the time. It doesn't care for him, you know,

1163
01:06:54.000 --> 01:06:56.599
don't get me wrong, but it doesn't. It won't rear us.

1164
01:06:57.440 --> 01:07:01.679
So anyways, whatever it was, it didn't care. So we're

1165
01:07:01.719 --> 01:07:04.960
all looking across. We're up on this. We're up on

1166
01:07:05.039 --> 01:07:09.559
a ridge. The rivers down below us were probably I

1167
01:07:09.639 --> 01:07:12.280
don't know, fifty seventy five feet up this ridge, looking

1168
01:07:12.400 --> 01:07:15.239
down at the river which is about I don't know,

1169
01:07:16.320 --> 01:07:20.159
seventy eighty feet across. It's about three feet deep and

1170
01:07:20.559 --> 01:07:24.559
up the other side of the embankment that is probably

1171
01:07:24.639 --> 01:07:27.039
twenty feet tall and then it flattens out. And then

1172
01:07:27.079 --> 01:07:30.000
there's ridges just just to the side of it that

1173
01:07:30.119 --> 01:07:33.239
go up like seventy five hundred feet that start heading

1174
01:07:33.360 --> 01:07:35.920
up the hill that you know, start going up the mountain.

1175
01:07:36.360 --> 01:07:41.519
And I've heard whoops up in up on those ridges

1176
01:07:41.599 --> 01:07:44.480
right above the trail where the horse goes up. I've

1177
01:07:44.519 --> 01:07:47.760
heard them several years in a row. Didn't hear anything.

1178
01:07:49.159 --> 01:07:51.920
Then I thought I heard like some tree branches breaking,

1179
01:07:52.119 --> 01:07:54.920
And I look over and I see a silhouette on

1180
01:07:55.039 --> 01:07:59.960
the other side, and it's probably it's between the first

1181
01:08:00.119 --> 01:08:02.320
in the second river, and it's up on this up

1182
01:08:02.400 --> 01:08:06.159
on this ridge up to the left. It appears to

1183
01:08:06.239 --> 01:08:09.159
have its back to us. It's getting you know, it's

1184
01:08:09.159 --> 01:08:12.199
read at twilight, so it's fairly dark in there, but

1185
01:08:12.280 --> 01:08:16.760
I can make it out. I can see if it

1186
01:08:16.880 --> 01:08:22.600
was a bigfoot, okay, because I I'm assuming it was.

1187
01:08:23.199 --> 01:08:24.680
If it was a big foot, it had to be

1188
01:08:24.720 --> 01:08:29.680
at least nine feet tall, maybe bigger. It was massive shoulders,

1189
01:08:29.880 --> 01:08:33.239
shoulders would be about five feet wide. The head was,

1190
01:08:33.680 --> 01:08:36.920
you know, right on the shoulders, no neck, and it

1191
01:08:37.039 --> 01:08:39.600
came up to a cone head. It appeared to have

1192
01:08:39.720 --> 01:08:43.680
its back to us. It was jet black looked like

1193
01:08:43.800 --> 01:08:48.319
covered in black hair. But it was a way of

1194
01:08:48.359 --> 01:08:51.800
a way. I mean it was, you know, two hundred

1195
01:08:51.800 --> 01:08:55.720
feet away, and I could see between there's these these

1196
01:08:55.840 --> 01:08:59.359
limbs of this tree right next to me, and there's

1197
01:08:59.359 --> 01:09:00.920
a couple of trees. He's on the other side of

1198
01:09:00.960 --> 01:09:03.880
the river that you know. The base of the tree

1199
01:09:03.920 --> 01:09:06.079
is like four feet around or so. It's really old

1200
01:09:06.159 --> 01:09:08.039
growth there, And I could line it up and I

1201
01:09:08.079 --> 01:09:12.439
could see it very clearly from right where I was standing.

1202
01:09:13.000 --> 01:09:15.239
If you move off to the sides, you can't see it.

1203
01:09:15.359 --> 01:09:17.439
If you move down, you can't see it. You have

1204
01:09:17.479 --> 01:09:19.239
to be standing right where I'm at. So I grabbed

1205
01:09:19.279 --> 01:09:22.600
one of the boys and I told him, I told everybody,

1206
01:09:23.960 --> 01:09:27.840
you know, quiet, and then came here. And one of

1207
01:09:27.880 --> 01:09:29.880
the boys came over and I pointed, and he goes,

1208
01:09:30.119 --> 01:09:33.239
I see it. I see it right there, and brought

1209
01:09:33.279 --> 01:09:35.640
the second boy over. He says, I see it. It's

1210
01:09:35.720 --> 01:09:38.960
right there. Brought Rob over. I see it. It's right there.

1211
01:09:39.520 --> 01:09:41.840
No way, Bob says, I'm going to walk towards it.

1212
01:09:42.760 --> 01:09:47.560
So he starts walking down the embankment and he gets

1213
01:09:47.600 --> 01:09:52.760
about twenty thirty feet down, like halfway down, and he

1214
01:09:53.359 --> 01:09:57.960
yells a. No, it's a it's a Burt Burt's down

1215
01:09:58.039 --> 01:10:04.239
our a a rootball, a burnt root ball. And I'm

1216
01:10:04.279 --> 01:10:07.520
telling them there's no way a rootball is shaped like that.

1217
01:10:08.520 --> 01:10:10.399
He goes, well, that's what it looks like from down here.

1218
01:10:10.439 --> 01:10:12.680
And I go, I go, well, you can't see it

1219
01:10:12.800 --> 01:10:15.640
from down there. You're you're below the hill, You're below

1220
01:10:15.680 --> 01:10:17.560
the line of sight. He goes, well, that's what I

1221
01:10:17.600 --> 01:10:20.439
think it is. I go, okay, I'm you know whatever,

1222
01:10:21.439 --> 01:10:23.439
I'm not. I'm not going to argue with you, dude.

1223
01:10:23.479 --> 01:10:25.600
I got a video of it right here because I

1224
01:10:25.640 --> 01:10:29.239
had it on GoPro, and we'll see, we'll see what

1225
01:10:29.359 --> 01:10:29.560
it is.

1226
01:10:29.640 --> 01:10:30.640
Wow, that's why.

1227
01:10:30.760 --> 01:10:34.920
So we turn around. We said, okay, well let's get

1228
01:10:34.920 --> 01:10:37.600
out of here. The horse is like already gone, and

1229
01:10:37.680 --> 01:10:39.479
I told those guys I got to catch the horse.

1230
01:10:39.560 --> 01:10:41.319
I gotta. I gotta go be with my girl. I'm

1231
01:10:41.319 --> 01:10:43.560
not going to let her be alone on this trail.

1232
01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:46.840
I could hear the horse moving off, so she wasn't

1233
01:10:46.880 --> 01:10:50.359
that far away from me. But you know, I gotta

1234
01:10:50.439 --> 01:10:53.159
I got I got electric motor on my fat tire bike,

1235
01:10:53.199 --> 01:10:55.359
and I can catch it pretty quick. I can go

1236
01:10:55.399 --> 01:10:58.520
about twenty five miles an hour on that thing. So anyways,

1237
01:10:58.560 --> 01:11:01.560
I caught up to her and she goes, yeah, a

1238
01:11:01.800 --> 01:11:06.920
really creepy feeling back there. Horse. It will not go

1239
01:11:07.039 --> 01:11:09.560
anywhere near the you know, that area for the rest

1240
01:11:09.560 --> 01:11:11.319
of the night. So just why I've got to camp.

1241
01:11:11.920 --> 01:11:13.439
And she goes, I'll hang out here in the meadow

1242
01:11:13.479 --> 01:11:15.680
with you if you want, and I was like, sure,

1243
01:11:15.760 --> 01:11:17.399
you know, we can hang out. We'll wait for the kids.

1244
01:11:17.720 --> 01:11:21.560
So we're hanging out there and then one of the

1245
01:11:21.640 --> 01:11:23.279
kids came up to Trill and he's like, Dad said

1246
01:11:23.319 --> 01:11:26.239
I could come with you guys. I was like, yeah, always,

1247
01:11:26.359 --> 01:11:30.359
you know, you're always welcome. So he catches up. So

1248
01:11:31.479 --> 01:11:34.479
I'm looking across the meadow and I see a figure

1249
01:11:34.600 --> 01:11:39.479
standing across a meadow from us, and I'm like, what

1250
01:11:39.800 --> 01:11:41.560
is that? And I got camera on it. You know,

1251
01:11:41.720 --> 01:11:44.800
it's in the tree line on the far side, but

1252
01:11:44.880 --> 01:11:48.279
it's getting so dark, you're really it's really hard to

1253
01:11:48.319 --> 01:11:53.439
make out trees or anything else. But this looked like

1254
01:11:53.600 --> 01:11:57.319
a humanoid figure, i'd say, about seven foot tall, kind

1255
01:11:57.359 --> 01:12:02.960
of lanky, standing there. So the other boy and Rob

1256
01:12:03.079 --> 01:12:05.399
catched back up to us, and I'm going, dude, look

1257
01:12:05.560 --> 01:12:08.319
right over there. Right over there, and the boys are going,

1258
01:12:08.439 --> 01:12:09.920
we don't see it, you know, we don't see it,

1259
01:12:10.039 --> 01:12:12.880
but we want to go. And I was like, all right,

1260
01:12:12.920 --> 01:12:14.880
we don't leave, you know, not a problem. We'll go.

1261
01:12:15.560 --> 01:12:17.800
And so we turned the horrors horse starts heading out,

1262
01:12:17.920 --> 01:12:21.399
and so we're starting to pull away and Rob goes, well,

1263
01:12:21.399 --> 01:12:27.000
I'm going to walk towards it. I said, okay, good

1264
01:12:27.039 --> 01:12:29.720
for you. You have fun with that. I got to

1265
01:12:29.760 --> 01:12:31.720
catch the horse. I'm going to take your boys back

1266
01:12:31.800 --> 01:12:34.960
to safety here. So here we go, and he, yeah,

1267
01:12:34.960 --> 01:12:37.119
I have no problem. So one of the boys stayed

1268
01:12:37.319 --> 01:12:39.279
right where he was. The older boy did, and and

1269
01:12:39.439 --> 01:12:42.199
Rob started walking across the meadow. But it's so dark

1270
01:12:42.520 --> 01:12:45.279
and he and he just can't see anything over there.

1271
01:12:46.159 --> 01:12:48.199
It's just it's just too dark. And the sun just

1272
01:12:48.279 --> 01:12:52.359
kept going down and went pitch black. So so then

1273
01:12:52.800 --> 01:12:58.840
everybody goes back to camp and settles in. We break

1274
01:12:58.880 --> 01:13:01.720
out the therms where and everything, all the tree lined

1275
01:13:01.800 --> 01:13:04.159
down by the creek, up and down the creek. Just nothing,

1276
01:13:04.399 --> 01:13:07.319
nothing on seeing my seeing bats, seeing you know, the

1277
01:13:07.399 --> 01:13:11.399
usual stuff. But nothing. And then this is the last

1278
01:13:11.439 --> 01:13:13.359
thing that happened, and it's pretty much the end of

1279
01:13:13.960 --> 01:13:17.720
any activity. But it's about eleven thirty at night. John

1280
01:13:17.760 --> 01:13:19.560
and I were walking around with our therms for about

1281
01:13:19.560 --> 01:13:24.560
an hour and sat down on this bench that's over

1282
01:13:24.640 --> 01:13:27.640
by his rig that looks over towards the bake tent

1283
01:13:27.800 --> 01:13:32.760
and then across the creek from that, and there's like

1284
01:13:32.920 --> 01:13:35.560
the creek splits into a ye down below the bait

1285
01:13:35.640 --> 01:13:38.560
tent and it turns into two creeks that are side

1286
01:13:38.560 --> 01:13:43.000
by side with a little bit of a bank in

1287
01:13:43.039 --> 01:13:47.720
between them. But on the far side of that about

1288
01:13:48.079 --> 01:13:51.039
i'd say, three hundred feet away from us, up up

1289
01:13:51.079 --> 01:13:53.680
the embankment from the creek, up in the real thick

1290
01:13:53.720 --> 01:14:00.119
growth trees, we see an orange ball of light, just

1291
01:14:00.199 --> 01:14:03.920
a single light, not not two, not three, just one.

1292
01:14:04.520 --> 01:14:09.720
It's about the size of a basketball. And the strange

1293
01:14:09.760 --> 01:14:13.720
thing about it is it was just kind of floating

1294
01:14:13.960 --> 01:14:17.039
through the trees in a straight line towards the creek,

1295
01:14:18.039 --> 01:14:22.640
and it stayed about eight feet off the ground and

1296
01:14:23.439 --> 01:14:28.199
was just a like a dull orange But it didn't

1297
01:14:28.239 --> 01:14:30.079
bob up and down, so it wasn't like a head

1298
01:14:30.199 --> 01:14:33.800
lamp on somebody's head. It didn't shine back and forth

1299
01:14:33.920 --> 01:14:36.239
like you'd be looking. You know, if you're walking, you'd

1300
01:14:36.279 --> 01:14:38.640
want to look down at the trail and look around,

1301
01:14:38.760 --> 01:14:41.560
you know, see where youre going to step. There's it's

1302
01:14:41.680 --> 01:14:44.399
not real safe through there to walk at night. But

1303
01:14:44.800 --> 01:14:50.239
it just floated and it floated towards us through the trees.

1304
01:14:50.880 --> 01:14:53.560
Was sitting right next to me. I go, I go, dude,

1305
01:14:53.600 --> 01:14:56.199
look look at look at the bait, tim and then

1306
01:14:56.279 --> 01:14:59.000
look ten feet to the right of it. But pass

1307
01:14:59.079 --> 01:15:02.279
it up into the trees across the little creek valley here.

1308
01:15:03.600 --> 01:15:05.640
And he goes, I see it. It goes to orange

1309
01:15:05.680 --> 01:15:10.239
ball alike. I go, yeah, And he goes, coming towards

1310
01:15:10.279 --> 01:15:14.039
the creek, I said, yep, it is. And you could

1311
01:15:14.079 --> 01:15:17.720
see that there were some small trees between us and

1312
01:15:17.760 --> 01:15:20.079
that because it would it would go, you know, just

1313
01:15:20.159 --> 01:15:22.399
on the other side of them. And it kept heading

1314
01:15:22.880 --> 01:15:26.479
across the hillside. But it didn't drop down and it

1315
01:15:26.560 --> 01:15:30.000
didn't go up. It just right the same high started

1316
01:15:30.039 --> 01:15:33.439
coming towards the creek. So it comes out and it's

1317
01:15:33.600 --> 01:15:40.960
like above on the edge of the embankment that goes down,

1318
01:15:41.079 --> 01:15:42.960
I mean drops down in the creek and it's like

1319
01:15:43.239 --> 01:15:47.960
just stayed there for like sixty seconds or so. And

1320
01:15:48.439 --> 01:15:51.359
it's pretty bright by then because now there's no trees,

1321
01:15:51.399 --> 01:15:53.479
no brush, anything that can interfere with us seeing it.

1322
01:15:54.279 --> 01:15:56.000
Like I said, it is about about the size of

1323
01:15:56.039 --> 01:16:01.119
a basketball. And then it just first course and went

1324
01:16:01.319 --> 01:16:05.560
exactly back where it came from. It didn't move side

1325
01:16:05.600 --> 01:16:08.119
to side, it didn't go up or down. It just

1326
01:16:08.159 --> 01:16:12.319
went in a straight line, exactly the path that it

1327
01:16:12.439 --> 01:16:14.640
came in on. And I saw it go through the

1328
01:16:14.720 --> 01:16:18.920
trees for about one hundred feet, probably between between seventy

1329
01:16:18.960 --> 01:16:21.960
five and one hundred feet before it completely disappeared and

1330
01:16:22.119 --> 01:16:25.840
it went back in where it popped out from. Wow,

1331
01:16:26.960 --> 01:16:31.039
I've never seen anything like that. I've you know, I

1332
01:16:31.119 --> 01:16:33.760
heard people would see a ball of light around these things.

1333
01:16:34.399 --> 01:16:36.520
I've never I've never seen that, you know, I've never

1334
01:16:36.560 --> 01:16:38.479
seen one of these going visible. There's I mean, there's

1335
01:16:38.479 --> 01:16:40.640
a lot of things I've never seen. Well, now I've

1336
01:16:40.680 --> 01:16:42.960
seen a ball of light and it was orange. And

1337
01:16:43.079 --> 01:16:45.680
my friend was sitting right next to me he thought too,

1338
01:16:46.640 --> 01:16:49.000
and we watched it and it was just whisper quiet.

1339
01:16:50.239 --> 01:16:54.640
The girls were behind us, back by the RV, just

1340
01:16:55.479 --> 01:16:58.600
laughing and having fun, quietly laughing and having fun. Where

1341
01:16:58.680 --> 01:17:00.399
we were at we were far enough way can barely

1342
01:17:00.479 --> 01:17:03.800
hear them. And the whole time, this thing was just

1343
01:17:03.920 --> 01:17:06.760
dead silent. All you could hear was the creek and

1344
01:17:07.279 --> 01:17:10.239
it didn't. Like I said, it couldn't have been a

1345
01:17:10.359 --> 01:17:13.359
helmet camp because there's no way you could stay perfectly

1346
01:17:13.520 --> 01:17:17.000
level across the terrain it was on, and it was

1347
01:17:17.000 --> 01:17:21.960
about eight to ten feet off the ground. So it

1348
01:17:22.199 --> 01:17:25.319
just I can't explain it. I don't know what it was. Now.

1349
01:17:25.439 --> 01:17:28.680
Could if somebody held a flashlight perfectly level for one

1350
01:17:28.760 --> 01:17:34.560
hundred feet maybe, but not one that's twelve inches around.

1351
01:17:35.960 --> 01:17:38.359
So anyway, it was just the weirdest thing. And that

1352
01:17:38.560 --> 01:17:41.760
was kind of the last thing that happened. The next day,

1353
01:17:43.880 --> 01:17:46.960
I gathered my microphones and all the lights and everything.

1354
01:17:47.159 --> 01:17:52.199
Oh one thing I left out that first night over

1355
01:17:52.239 --> 01:17:56.359
at Rob's camp, something took one of my lights. My

1356
01:17:56.520 --> 01:17:59.319
light was missing, and so we were making jokes, Well

1357
01:17:59.359 --> 01:18:01.800
it's with you know, it's up in that nest next

1358
01:18:01.800 --> 01:18:03.960
to that Toyota Park. You know they have a light

1359
01:18:04.000 --> 01:18:08.279
show now that every night, you know, until that solar dies,

1360
01:18:08.439 --> 01:18:12.279
they'll have a party every night up there. So So anyways,

1361
01:18:13.479 --> 01:18:17.880
the next morning, Joe, everybody packs up. We have big breakfasts.

1362
01:18:17.880 --> 01:18:20.239
Everybody packs up and we all had our different directions,

1363
01:18:20.560 --> 01:18:23.800
and you know, we looked for tracks, never found any

1364
01:18:23.880 --> 01:18:26.720
other than the trackway. I let Cliff Berry Clinn know,

1365
01:18:26.880 --> 01:18:29.039
found a trackway you might want to look at. He

1366
01:18:29.199 --> 01:18:33.840
came up and looked at I think that trackway because

1367
01:18:33.880 --> 01:18:36.720
we found two of them. And he said it was

1368
01:18:36.760 --> 01:18:40.880
a bear. And I told him, what, I don't know

1369
01:18:40.920 --> 01:18:43.399
any bear that could take six foot strides. But maybe

1370
01:18:43.439 --> 01:18:45.560
it jumped off, you know, he's jumping off this real

1371
01:18:45.640 --> 01:18:48.760
steep show. And so it spread it it steps up

1372
01:18:48.880 --> 01:18:52.960
because of that and did double steps where it did touchdown,

1373
01:18:53.439 --> 01:18:57.439
but the steps were six to seven feet apart. Wow.

1374
01:18:58.199 --> 01:19:00.520
And and then there was a second track way further

1375
01:19:00.720 --> 01:19:04.880
down that Cliff didn't see that one of the teams

1376
01:19:04.920 --> 01:19:07.399
picked up. And I have photographs of that stuff too,

1377
01:19:07.560 --> 01:19:11.960
so okay, But anyways, so I have video, I have

1378
01:19:12.760 --> 01:19:16.199
I have audio, and I have some photographs. I am

1379
01:19:16.520 --> 01:19:18.960
by far not the best investigator in the world. I

1380
01:19:19.079 --> 01:19:22.079
just kind of do it for fun, but you know,

1381
01:19:22.079 --> 01:19:25.640
because it's interesting to me. But any of that that

1382
01:19:25.720 --> 01:19:28.960
I find that's valuable, that total noises and stuff, I'll

1383
01:19:29.000 --> 01:19:29.399
send to you.

1384
01:19:30.520 --> 01:19:35.960
I would appreciate that. Uh my goodness, Gary, I'm so

1385
01:19:36.119 --> 01:19:39.600
happy that I'm so happy that happened to you and

1386
01:19:39.680 --> 01:19:41.560
new group. You might find this interesting.

1387
01:19:41.840 --> 01:19:41.960
Uh.

1388
01:19:42.399 --> 01:19:44.520
The local I interviewed the other day says that the

1389
01:19:44.720 --> 01:19:48.039
orb thing happens so much that they're actually called wisps

1390
01:19:48.319 --> 01:19:51.479
by locals in the area, so they're seen a lot.

1391
01:19:53.319 --> 01:19:57.079
The Bigfoot for that area. The local way of referring

1392
01:19:57.119 --> 01:19:59.319
to it is the man of the ridge. So that's

1393
01:19:59.399 --> 01:20:03.680
interesting too that they actually have like a local, local

1394
01:20:03.760 --> 01:20:06.920
way of referring to it. It's such an incredible account.

1395
01:20:06.960 --> 01:20:09.960
I'm glad that you were able to have I mean,

1396
01:20:10.159 --> 01:20:12.840
and and new people in the group were able to

1397
01:20:12.920 --> 01:20:17.199
have experiences like that. That's that's very special. That area

1398
01:20:17.359 --> 01:20:21.479
is so so incredibly active. I'm so glad we were

1399
01:20:21.520 --> 01:20:25.239
able to have this conversation. Gary, I know it it

1400
01:20:26.399 --> 01:20:28.039
We had to go back and forth a little bit

1401
01:20:28.119 --> 01:20:29.399
just because of like cancer stuff.

1402
01:20:29.439 --> 01:20:36.199
But well, right now I'm doing fifty four hour a week,

1403
01:20:36.359 --> 01:20:39.399
so yeah, that's why I have these videos up and

1404
01:20:39.479 --> 01:20:41.479
some I'm so tired at night i can barely keep

1405
01:20:41.520 --> 01:20:45.119
my eyes open. And then yeah, you know, six thousand trees.

1406
01:20:45.159 --> 01:20:46.920
We have a tree farm, so I'm going to do

1407
01:20:47.000 --> 01:20:50.720
an irrigation, different things too, But I'm glad we got together.

1408
01:20:50.800 --> 01:20:54.079
This is great. You know, your show is by far

1409
01:20:54.199 --> 01:20:56.600
my favorite, and I've listened to quite a few different podcasts.

1410
01:20:56.600 --> 01:20:58.760
I'm actually on one. I just think it's really important

1411
01:20:58.880 --> 01:21:00.880
to people like me. I want to hear a first

1412
01:21:00.920 --> 01:21:05.399
hand account, not a possible made up story. And I

1413
01:21:05.479 --> 01:21:08.600
think that people can just be real and you can tell,

1414
01:21:09.399 --> 01:21:11.760
you know that they've seen these things, They've been around

1415
01:21:11.840 --> 01:21:15.880
these things. These things terrify me. They do. I get asked, well,

1416
01:21:15.880 --> 01:21:18.000
why do you keep going up? Why do you Well,

1417
01:21:18.279 --> 01:21:20.239
I'm not going up there to shampoo one. I'm just

1418
01:21:20.319 --> 01:21:22.880
going up to see see one from one hundred feet away.

1419
01:21:22.880 --> 01:21:24.960
If I can on get it on camera. You know,

1420
01:21:25.039 --> 01:21:26.640
that's as close as I ever want to get. I

1421
01:21:27.520 --> 01:21:30.079
don't want a pet one or have one pet me.

1422
01:21:30.920 --> 01:21:35.039
So do you feel like you you reached because your

1423
01:21:35.079 --> 01:21:36.439
goal was to get one on camera?

1424
01:21:36.720 --> 01:21:42.760
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, that was a goal. Yeah yeah. Well,

1425
01:21:42.800 --> 01:21:45.439
now now my friend wants to talk to one because

1426
01:21:45.479 --> 01:21:48.359
he has before, and and now I'm kind of thinking,

1427
01:21:48.439 --> 01:21:50.840
I wonder what would be like, you know, but I

1428
01:21:50.840 --> 01:21:54.359
don't know. I don't know. I think you're about to

1429
01:21:54.399 --> 01:21:57.680
ask me, did I meet my goal? And am I done? Yeah?

1430
01:21:57.720 --> 01:22:00.560
I mean, I remember you talking before that like that

1431
01:22:00.760 --> 01:22:03.159
was the big goal was to try to get try

1432
01:22:03.199 --> 01:22:04.479
to get one documented like that.

1433
01:22:05.000 --> 01:22:07.479
Well, it has to be better than Patterson Gimlin's film,

1434
01:22:07.479 --> 01:22:11.399
and it's anything I got good. So you know, until

1435
01:22:11.439 --> 01:22:14.119
I get that, I really can't say I nailed it,

1436
01:22:14.319 --> 01:22:19.199
you know. But you know you've got to remember too,

1437
01:22:20.319 --> 01:22:22.720
We're out race of horses every weekend. I go all

1438
01:22:23.000 --> 01:22:26.239
over Oregon and Washington. We're up by Fort Lewis at Town,

1439
01:22:26.399 --> 01:22:30.279
up by up by Mount Adams, a ton Trout Creek.

1440
01:22:30.520 --> 01:22:33.119
I mean, we raced all over the Coast Range, and

1441
01:22:33.279 --> 01:22:36.680
we practiced on the weekends. We're not racing, so we're

1442
01:22:36.720 --> 01:22:39.399
exposed to these things everywhere. They're all up and down

1443
01:22:39.479 --> 01:22:41.960
the coast Range. I've had sightings in the Coast Range.

1444
01:22:42.239 --> 01:22:46.800
I've had encounters. They're everywhere. So if a person's afraid

1445
01:22:47.279 --> 01:22:49.279
that they're going to encounter one of these things, you

1446
01:22:49.359 --> 01:22:52.439
need to stay out of the woods. But I think

1447
01:22:52.520 --> 01:22:55.079
that what happens with a lot of people is they'll

1448
01:22:55.119 --> 01:22:58.720
see them like I did, and then at first you're

1449
01:22:58.760 --> 01:23:01.600
kind of terrified, but after that the curiosity thinks, Then

1450
01:23:02.079 --> 01:23:04.439
you know, what are there? Are they? People like us.

1451
01:23:04.960 --> 01:23:08.119
Are they monkeys? You know, what are they? And you know,

1452
01:23:08.479 --> 01:23:10.760
something that's been brought up is there's never been a

1453
01:23:10.880 --> 01:23:13.880
large ape found in North America. No bones, no teeth,

1454
01:23:13.960 --> 01:23:18.520
no nothing. And I don't think they're a monkey. But

1455
01:23:18.760 --> 01:23:21.680
they have found giant bones and they you know, Smithsonian

1456
01:23:21.800 --> 01:23:25.880
keeps losing them. But you know, they found giants all

1457
01:23:25.920 --> 01:23:27.920
over the US over a thousand sets of bones. And

1458
01:23:28.680 --> 01:23:33.800
and so I think that they're more like us than

1459
01:23:33.840 --> 01:23:36.720
they're not. And I've heard them talk on multiple occasions.

1460
01:23:37.039 --> 01:23:40.439
They have a language, they you know, they talk with

1461
01:23:40.560 --> 01:23:44.159
each other, and and I think they're more like us

1462
01:23:44.239 --> 01:23:46.279
than they're not. I just think that they're a more

1463
01:23:46.399 --> 01:23:51.079
primitive living version of us that survived all these years

1464
01:23:51.880 --> 01:23:56.520
and obviously is doing well because you hear about more

1465
01:23:56.560 --> 01:24:00.520
sightings than ever, you know, And they seem to live

1466
01:24:00.720 --> 01:24:04.039
just outside of for the most part, just outside of civilization.

1467
01:24:04.359 --> 01:24:08.239
They're not far and come into civilization all the time apparently.

1468
01:24:08.399 --> 01:24:13.840
So absolutely, absolutely, Yeah, I've heard of I've heard lot

1469
01:24:14.119 --> 01:24:15.960
past saying they go through their garbage and stuff.

1470
01:24:16.039 --> 01:24:20.840
So now are they they eat garbage? Could be I

1471
01:24:20.880 --> 01:24:26.560
don't know. We living in the forest, that's for sure. Yeah,

1472
01:24:26.560 --> 01:24:29.000
And they hunt than we do. And and a lot

1473
01:24:29.000 --> 01:24:31.000
of a lot of people are military trained and they

1474
01:24:31.079 --> 01:24:33.720
hunt better than they do. So they're smart when it

1475
01:24:33.760 --> 01:24:35.199
comes to some things, that's for sure.

1476
01:24:36.039 --> 01:24:37.960
Oh no, no doubt about that.

1477
01:24:38.880 --> 01:24:39.119
Gary.

1478
01:24:39.439 --> 01:24:42.760
I'm always glad to to talk to you and I

1479
01:24:42.840 --> 01:24:44.399
have you on the show, and thank you so much

1480
01:24:44.479 --> 01:24:47.680
for coming on again. It sounds like you will continue

1481
01:24:47.800 --> 01:24:53.800
to to go up and and try to have these experiences. Well, yeah,

1482
01:24:54.359 --> 01:24:55.039
as long as you can.

1483
01:24:55.880 --> 01:25:01.319
I have some military some friends of mine have told

1484
01:25:01.359 --> 01:25:03.319
me some stories that are in the military about Fort

1485
01:25:03.399 --> 01:25:05.239
Lewis that you may want to hear about one of

1486
01:25:05.279 --> 01:25:09.760
them pretty pretty uh uh extreme.

1487
01:25:10.119 --> 01:25:13.399
I'll just say yeah, with that one, that might be

1488
01:25:13.720 --> 01:25:16.119
actually a really great chat because those are hard to

1489
01:25:16.199 --> 01:25:20.159
get documented. A lot of those individuals get a little

1490
01:25:20.720 --> 01:25:25.720
freaked out, which is totally understandable. It's hard for them

1491
01:25:25.800 --> 01:25:29.720
to come forward. So yeah, yeah, I can't mind.

1492
01:25:30.920 --> 01:25:35.279
Yeah, I know a secondhand account, but it's so it's

1493
01:25:35.359 --> 01:25:39.119
so amazing what happened. And there were like six or

1494
01:25:39.159 --> 01:25:42.479
eight policemen involved that ran off, gott in their cars,

1495
01:25:42.520 --> 01:25:47.239
drove off, and one military guy that takes his old

1496
01:25:47.359 --> 01:25:49.399
r V up there that got just beat and you know.

1497
01:25:49.520 --> 01:25:53.039
So that was one and then there's another one up

1498
01:25:53.119 --> 01:25:55.720
by Detroit Lake that you're going to want to know

1499
01:25:55.800 --> 01:26:02.079
about about the bear that got toward to pieces and that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1500
01:26:02.279 --> 01:26:05.560
so there's some stuff that you know, again, to be secondhand,

1501
01:26:05.600 --> 01:26:07.239
it wouldn't be me, but I trust my.

1502
01:26:07.319 --> 01:26:11.520
Source so absolutely. Well, well, we'll have to set something

1503
01:26:11.640 --> 01:26:14.359
up for the future. But thank you so much for

1504
01:26:14.479 --> 01:26:17.359
coming on Gary. Real quick. I want to make sure

1505
01:26:17.479 --> 01:26:21.119
that people that is super clear to people that you've

1506
01:26:21.199 --> 01:26:26.439
got a great channel. People can watch some awesome video

1507
01:26:26.560 --> 01:26:28.880
on Can you talk about that for a few minutes

1508
01:26:28.880 --> 01:26:31.560
before we're done, Yeah, just real quick.

1509
01:26:32.640 --> 01:26:38.199
In twenty nineteen, I really wanted to. I decided I

1510
01:26:38.239 --> 01:26:41.560
would get evidence of these things and at least show

1511
01:26:41.800 --> 01:26:45.079
show evidence of the siding that we had where my

1512
01:26:45.159 --> 01:26:49.000
girlfriend's soft five of them and I saw one, and

1513
01:26:49.479 --> 01:26:53.439
so we retraced our steps with the GoPro and ever

1514
01:26:53.560 --> 01:26:56.640
since then, we've been taking the go pro up when

1515
01:26:56.720 --> 01:26:58.840
we go to this spot and others, and I take

1516
01:26:58.960 --> 01:27:00.600
video of it and I put it on YouTube and

1517
01:27:00.720 --> 01:27:04.479
the channel is called Bigfoot Research Projects. Basically, the channel

1518
01:27:04.600 --> 01:27:08.279
has video from several years of us going up there.

1519
01:27:09.000 --> 01:27:11.399
The most recent years I keep threatening to put up

1520
01:27:11.439 --> 01:27:14.239
and I'm going to probably this winter. Just hold on,

1521
01:27:14.319 --> 01:27:19.479
I'll get it up there. The websites had somewhere between

1522
01:27:19.560 --> 01:27:24.079
three quarters and a million views. But it's just trail cam,

1523
01:27:24.479 --> 01:27:27.760
you know. It's just me going down the trail with

1524
01:27:27.880 --> 01:27:30.000
the GoPro on behind the horse or in front of

1525
01:27:30.039 --> 01:27:34.039
the horse and pick it up all this and so

1526
01:27:34.199 --> 01:27:36.279
videos that aren't up yet, or the last couple of

1527
01:27:36.359 --> 01:27:39.159
years where I have one pushing a tree over, I have.

1528
01:27:40.640 --> 01:27:44.800
This year's the one with us back to us, the

1529
01:27:44.920 --> 01:27:47.159
ones out in the field, a couple more. Last year

1530
01:27:47.239 --> 01:27:49.800
I had to look through some brush out in the field.

1531
01:27:50.920 --> 01:27:53.840
So I haven't put those videos up yet, but I

1532
01:27:53.960 --> 01:27:56.800
haven't been real driven to just because my day job

1533
01:27:56.920 --> 01:28:03.319
is so it's so rough and popping. But anyways, so

1534
01:28:03.600 --> 01:28:06.239
but I am going to this winter. I'll, you know,

1535
01:28:06.439 --> 01:28:09.239
by Christmas, i'll have all the new video of a

1536
01:28:09.399 --> 01:28:13.319
ton of audio because I take audio as well, and

1537
01:28:14.079 --> 01:28:15.960
we'll we'll, we'll build it up. Right now, there's some

1538
01:28:16.000 --> 01:28:18.159
pretty cool stuff you can see, rocks thrown by me,

1539
01:28:18.359 --> 01:28:21.479
and a couple of sightings and stuff. So it's it's

1540
01:28:21.560 --> 01:28:23.680
kind of fun as it is, but it's all just

1541
01:28:23.800 --> 01:28:27.159
live footage. I'm I'm you know. I don't make any plans.

1542
01:28:27.239 --> 01:28:29.079
We just go out and I ride with the horse

1543
01:28:29.159 --> 01:28:31.840
and whatever comes on camera comes on camera. But thank

1544
01:28:31.880 --> 01:28:34.600
you for bringing it up. It's the Bigfoot Research Project.

1545
01:28:35.720 --> 01:28:39.000
That that company name UH was an old name for

1546
01:28:39.159 --> 01:28:42.479
one of the four horsemen had UH had the company

1547
01:28:42.560 --> 01:28:44.680
here in Oregon where you'd go up around Mount Hood

1548
01:28:44.800 --> 01:28:47.800
and and hunt them down, and he had it on

1549
01:28:47.840 --> 01:28:49.680
the side of his jeeps and everything. So actually a

1550
01:28:49.800 --> 01:28:54.880
very famous name. I bought the company's name and UH,

1551
01:28:55.079 --> 01:28:57.439
so now I can use it. But I just really

1552
01:28:57.600 --> 01:29:00.399
like the name, the Bigfoot Research Project, and just just know,

1553
01:29:00.680 --> 01:29:05.000
you know, we did it for fun and because we're

1554
01:29:05.039 --> 01:29:08.039
really interested in this, and we just come across these

1555
01:29:08.079 --> 01:29:12.199
things on horseback all the time. So we just decided, well, hey,

1556
01:29:12.279 --> 01:29:14.199
let's do something about it. It'd be fun to get

1557
01:29:14.239 --> 01:29:17.439
some recordings, some different things. So so we do it.

1558
01:29:17.680 --> 01:29:21.840
And I don't believe in lying or making something up

1559
01:29:21.960 --> 01:29:24.960
to say, facialize it. And I don't make a dime

1560
01:29:25.039 --> 01:29:28.600
off of this. No, I have no interest in But

1561
01:29:28.840 --> 01:29:31.479
I am interested in the truth and uncovering what these

1562
01:29:31.520 --> 01:29:34.680
things are and showing what I know and someday when

1563
01:29:35.239 --> 01:29:39.439
they scientifically get proven. People look at my foot to go,

1564
01:29:39.520 --> 01:29:41.760
oh yeah, that's just part of a file of stuff

1565
01:29:41.840 --> 01:29:45.439
that people have seen them, you know, not a big deal.

1566
01:29:47.079 --> 01:29:50.199
This guy. He's just another farmer, you know, another tree

1567
01:29:50.279 --> 01:29:52.840
farmer out there, just these stuff on horsebacks.

1568
01:29:52.920 --> 01:29:55.720
So I love it. Always fun to talk to you.

1569
01:29:55.880 --> 01:29:56.119
Gary.

1570
01:29:57.119 --> 01:30:00.960
I'm going to go ahead and stop recording here before

1571
01:30:01.039 --> 01:30:03.439
we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly

1572
01:30:03.560 --> 01:30:06.319
to a very specific group of listeners. If you're in

1573
01:30:06.359 --> 01:30:10.279
the military, any branch or forces, and if you've seen

1574
01:30:10.359 --> 01:30:12.960
something that no one can explain, or if you're a

1575
01:30:13.039 --> 01:30:16.239
National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told to

1576
01:30:16.279 --> 01:30:19.600
stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen something

1577
01:30:19.720 --> 01:30:22.600
strange down on the ground, or if you're with the

1578
01:30:22.800 --> 01:30:26.680
FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled

1579
01:30:26.720 --> 01:30:29.560
upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if

1580
01:30:29.560 --> 01:30:33.119
you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's

1581
01:30:33.159 --> 01:30:36.760
heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense, if

1582
01:30:36.800 --> 01:30:40.439
you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field,

1583
01:30:40.640 --> 01:30:43.640
or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something

1584
01:30:43.760 --> 01:30:47.159
happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

1585
01:30:47.159 --> 01:30:51.000
a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under

1586
01:30:51.079 --> 01:30:54.359
contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

1587
01:30:54.960 --> 01:30:57.439
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

1588
01:30:57.479 --> 01:31:00.920
spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,

1589
01:31:01.640 --> 01:31:04.720
or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA or

1590
01:31:04.800 --> 01:31:08.159
anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

1591
01:31:09.520 --> 01:31:12.880
then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

1592
01:31:14.760 --> 01:31:18.079
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

1593
01:31:18.720 --> 01:31:21.119
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

1594
01:31:21.199 --> 01:31:25.920
carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story,

1595
01:31:27.520 --> 01:31:31.319
We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

1596
01:31:31.359 --> 01:31:34.199
you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast.

1597
01:31:34.319 --> 01:31:36.720
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1598
01:31:36.800 --> 01:31:39.840
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1599
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