A 10-Foot Bigfoot Walked Past His SUV At Lolo Pass

0:00 You're listening to Big for Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us. Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers as he continues his fight against cancer. For more updates about his medical journey, please go to the carring Bridge link in the show notes. Thank you all right, Big for Society. You've got the privilege of talking to Gary Allen again. Gary has been on the show multiple times over the last few years because he's got some wild things that have happened around the Lolo Pass area of Oregon, out there by Mount Hood, and I would really recommend that you go back and listen to those episodes if you haven't already. Wild wild Stuff, Well, welcome back. To the show again. Gary, how are you doing today, sir?

1:10 Thank you doing good, doing good. It's great day, going to flow out here in Oregon. Beautiful funny about I hope it is the how are the fires out where you're at here? You're able to breathe okay, and things of. That clearned out. The fighters are on the east side of the Cascades, and the smoke kind of blew in for two or three days and our air quality got to like one fifty one sixty. Wind shifted yesterday and it blew it all back over. I hear in Primeville, Oregon, they were at three hundred. I mean, you shouldn't even be outside after like one hundred. But it's pretty darn smoking there. It's now coming out of the west again and we're just crystal clear out here.

1:54 Good stuff, good stuff. So this, uh, we're having to follow up episode because if listeners remember, part of this is you go to this same area every year for your birthday and you have kind of like a gathering. But it's bigfoot focused as well. I think all that has been talked about in the last episodes. Correct, I'm pretty sure we talked about that. Yeah, we take the horses up there, except we're mid season, mid race season for our endurance horses, and it puts a lot of muscle on when you run them up up a hillside, they get a lot stronger, a lot faster, and so it gets them in really good shape for our next race coming up.

2:36 Gotcha. And so because of that, you've had a lot of interesting things happen. Those are talked about in the previous episodes, some really close calls recently. But so this year you were able to have you had quite the group go out there. It sounds like you had a few people with you. Yeah. Actually I had my brother come up with a skeptic and Joe b. Lark showed up on Saturday, and Cliff Bertman came up the day after. I wasn't there. He was he's looking at some of the trackways that we found. But yeah, and then Rob Gentleman you introduced me to uh he he asked if he could come up.

3:19 I said sure. He brought his two teenage boys. The guy's just really good manners, really good person. I'm really glad that we met, and he'll he'll be invited every year from now on. Any year we go up there and his boys. Good guy, we've talked for a few hours. Great, great guy. I'm glad he was able to make it out for that. So you got Joe Cliff, skeptic individual, Robin, two teenage boys. He came up the day after to look at some track. And then John, a friend of mine. John, that's a really good friend of Joe b Lars. They've been going up the Bigfoot Highway for years. John's had sidings on the Bigfoot highwa for years, and all kinds of different things have happened. Even as I think it was a week ago he went camping and had really strange stuff happened.

4:12 But yeah, yep, all those people were up there and my girlfriend and of course are two ponies that we take up, so yep. And this is the same individual that had the issue with almost being bucked off the horse up on the mountain, correct my girlfriend? Yeah, yeah, it reared up when when a squad shoved a tree down about seventy five feet up the hill from her, it reared up and almost fell off a cliff backwards. So we don't. We don't ride the horse up that side anymore. It's just too dangerous with them being so active up there, I'm afraid that the horse might tumble backwards off a cliff. And this year, did Tom Powell make it at all or unable to talk to make it?

4:54 Unfortunately, Tom wasn't able to make it. I think that I think that he's his wife. I think has health problems. He's kind of trying to get through, but he couldn't make it. He was really he's really happy to be invited. We've had him up a couple of years, so absolutely so. Gary. You've told me a bit about what happened, and it sounds like it got extremely intense. So I would be interested if you could kind of take us through the events of the weekend, because you are up there for it's Friday through Sunday. Correct correct, correct? Yeah. We go up Friday afternoon and come back on Sunday afternoon pretty much every year on my birthday or whatever weekends closest to it.

5:43 Were there a lot of other campers up there at the same time, or was it no, just you guys? Okay? Pretty much? Yeah, okay, okay. We're kind of an out of way place, so it's uh. Even though we're next to the road, it's not that many cars go by, and it's it's pretty quiet up there. We're not we're off at a couple of hundred feet, but basically it's kind of fairly close to civilization. There's ridges all over Lolo Pass. We we just found one that that seems to be pretty active, only because we run the horses up and back and and uh that that brings them in. They seem to be really interested in the horses and activity more so than just like a hiker or a campher.

6:29 So how how soon was it, I mean, you get you get everyone showing up on Friday? Did things kick off really quickly or how did things kind of start happening for you this year? Well, Friday night was a big night, that's for sure. That's that's when we had multiple sightings. But it was h Yeah, it's kind of kind of a slow start because we roll in and start setting up the corrals and and get the horses off situated, get camps set up, and then other people start showing up and and we kind of plan out, you know, we're gonna have somebody you know down this way or over that way, you know, one hundred feet away or fifty feet away. We start we start setting up camp and and then they start setting up their camps. And the way we set it up, we're spread out somewhat so that so that we get more coverage of this area. The thing you run into is the site that that my girlfriend likes the most is right by a creek. I mean it's and the creek is so loud that microphones and stuff pick up nothing.

7:41 Now I've heard voices, and I'm not the only one, but I've heard voices at night down by the creek. Uh you know, a language you don't understand sometimes. But once it was my friend's Tom's voice at three in the morning, and I could hear it over the creek. Water crystal clear, and Tom was dead to sleep, uh two hundred feet away, so it wasn't Tom. But anyways. Uh So by spreading out, some of us can camp further away from the creek over more in these old growth trees and uh uh to some real small meadows right next to those that that you know, these guys come into. They're they're really interested in campers, you know, if it's if it's something different. Uh, And so we we just try to be something different and succeed. We're pretty good at me yeah, we were. We were bright yellow shirts and bright green shirts and run around making a ton of noise all day, laughing and having fun.

8:45 And uh, this year, I set up a little surprise for them. Uh that actually worked one night, didn't work the second night, but it worked great the first night. And if you want to get into how that. Day progressed, and absolutely, yeah, I'd say, let's get right into it. It's curious. How so you guys, it's you're you're not trying to hide at all. I mean you are. You're talking loudly, you're laughing. It's obvious you guys are there. Yeah. Yeah, we make a ton of noise and I have game calls that I use when I go up the trails that are extremely loud. Yeah, we're we're not trying to be quiet at all in any way, shape or form. And we're not wearing anything green or anything you know, like camo or anything like that, none of that.

9:33 Wearing bright colors, looking like campers out camping and having fun. But our intent is not to hunt them, you know, we're not We're not out to bag one unless you're counting getting them on video. But uh, but that's the extent of it and and I think that they I think that they pick up on that five and so it seems to be working every Virtually every time we go up we have an encounter or sighting. So Garry, you not just there, we we have sighting belsewhere too, but that that place guaranteed. Yeah, when you I just had a question, come at it nowhere. So when you are bringing people into this yearly gathering, then are you checking with them to make sure that they have the same intention as as the rest of the group would have, Like what what are your.

10:31 What? What do you how do you feel towards Bigfoot? Is the thing where you're trying to take one down? Or is that? Is that something that you ever do? Like an interview for potential people when they come out. Well, the group is always really small. It consists of my friend John who have been going up he's been coming up there for like five years, Joe b Lark who's been coming up there for five years, Joe's wife Sharon, Joe Joe's other friend, Tom Powell. I've met Tom through Joe and and Tom's wife I met it while they were engaged. She was still his girlfriend at the time, and now she's they're married. My brother I've invited up once or twice. Uh so everybody that I know I've known for for years now. But when I first met him, I did ask them, you know, what would your intentions be, you know with these things? I don't. I don't. I don't want to see any firearms. Plus it's illegal to have them to shoot them up there on this this particular plot of land. It's a federal piece of property.

11:35 So but uh but I I I do ask, you know, you know, and and they've flat up told me you know that they're they have no intention of ever hurting one. And in fact, some of them are wondering why I keep leaving when we see them, and they if the thing's still standing there, why I don't try to talk to. It or or do hell interesting? And I just tell them, well, because even though you know, I keep going back up the durn things terrify me. So I don't. I don't want to be that close to one, but I don't mind. I'm okay with seeing them, you know, one hundred feet away or more. I'm good with that. That's about as close as I think I ever need to get. Really, But that's all the closer they seem to come to me. I haven't had any come up real close to me, and I'm kind of actually thankful for that. I don't know that I want to look them in the face, you know, or have them look at my face close.

12:32 It sounds like that did happen this year, not to not to go ahead, but it sounds like there was someone who actually got pretty close. Well we'll talk about that in a bit. Yeah, yeah, about a foot doing this, but yeah, take us through how Friday went and and uh and and how things progressed. I guess, okay, so we again we race the durance sources. So so we're like every other weekend if we're not camping, we go for a day trip to take the horses up to some trails we can run on. And I have a two horsepower e bike, a fat tire bike I built that I can run with the horse.

13:13 And so we practice together all over the Northwest. Our horses have won quite a few races. We keep them pretty fit. So anyways, we're really used to camping and we could set up a site really fast, get comfortable. You know. We have a thirty six foot trailer with a big slide and it's like a hotel room and side. It's just really nice. That's for the horses too. So when we rolled into camp, we set up, we get the horses out. We have portable corrals we can put up. We got them in the corrals and got them all comfortable, water and whatnot, and then after they rest a bit, we walk them out to get their legs stretched out.

13:54 But that afternoon and I'm gonna start looking down a little bit because so much happened that if I don't write it down, I uh, I'll lose something. And I don't want to do that. I was taught by Joe B. Lark and h my friend John to after you have an encounter, write down everything you can remember so you don't forget it because time passes and then you forget a detail that that that later it comes to you, Oh yeah, I remember these strange sounds that we're over here or whatever. And I don't want to lose any of it, just because there's so much to it, you know, even the smallest thing I like to I like to keep notes on. So so I have about about six pages of notes. Most of it's on Friday, because that's when we have multiple sightings. So so anyways, the place we go into, as you've seen on previous videos, I call it Scukum Ridge. It's it's fairly close to Mount Hood and uh it's it's on a lot low pass just off the Sandy River. There's about a hundred creeks that go into the Sandy and is this area is along along one of the creek. And so anyways, we get camp set up and then the gentleman named Rob that introduced me to super nice guy. I wanted to bring somebody knew up that I hadn't had up before, and and I asked if he knew somebody, and you recommended Rob. And Rob asked if he could bring his two teenagers. I kind of screamed him a little bit

15:25 just to find out, you know, you're you're not out to kill one of these things, or you know, I really don't want people shooting at him while I'm around. I like them. They they so far, they've been harmless to me. It doesn't mean all of them are harmless. It's just these ones have not made any attempt to hurt me, and they they could have dozens of times by now, So that doesn't mean they never will. It just means they haven't to this point. So anyways, I just don't want anybody shooting at him. So so Rob, Rob seemed like a super nice guy. Uh he agreed to my conditions and and he showed up to camp and in his pickup truck, and he had he brought bicycles up because I told him bring bikes because we got to go away. Out is where the most activity is.

16:13 And uh so, if you want the most activity, I'll take you out to where you know these spots are. My friend John showed up shortly after. And John pulls this small small trailers has it's really cool a little anyways, it's a real small trailer that he could sleep in, and it's got camping stove, the stuff mounted on the outside of it, off the back, and a hatch that opens. It's pretty cool. I'm telling you some of this information because we're going to circle back to it because it has meanings here in a bit. So anyways, then after that, my brother showed up. My big brother is retired military. He was in the army, was in Iraq and Kuwait war and came back and super nice guy. He worked with vets up at Liberty Lake for years, helping him get off drugs and and find jobs and do different things and study psychology. He's really he's really a super intelligent, super nice guy. Now he's retired and does a lot of photography, has some excellent cameras. So anyways, he's a skeptic.

17:21 He's never seen one. It's not that he didn't think they existed, he's just never seen one. So he didn't know you know much about him other than he's heard stories because he's up at Fort Lewis is where he's been at, so he's heard quite a few big Foot stories. In fact, one or two terrifying ones that I can I can tell some other times. But so anyways, he showed up in his suv. He decided he's going to sleep in back of that instead of staying at tent. And and so we we kind of spread out a little bit and everybody got comfortable and and we we started we ate er, and I put up a little whiteboards.

18:04 My girlfriend says, everybody always asks you, you know, what do we do next? What do we do next? And honestly, even though this is kind of an expedition of sorts, it's pretty pretty informal, you know, we're just taking our horses up to exercise them and camping and have fun, and it just kind of grew into more than that. And what's what's nice is none of my friends want to step on my toes when it comes to you know, what type of thing we're going to do while we're there to attract them. Because the horses attractive, we take the horses out and try to attract them back in, and then after dark things typically happen in camp. They kind of follow the horses back to camp. So and that happens pretty much every year we go. There's a lot of bigfoot horse activity up there. A lot of people on horse have seen them. One lady got fucked off a horse and in the middle of the river and the horse took off went a long way. It's pretty common for trail riders and endurance writers to go up there and practice. So, like I said, there's been multiple people that have broke camp and went home after a siding and then told, like the guy down at the service station just down the hill, they're getting the heck out of Dodge because of something they saw up there. Also, Cliff Bergman's the guy that works for him in his museum.

19:25 He had a siding and really pretty much right in the same camp area we camp in, really a couple hundred feet away, he had one. I think it was like six years ago something like that, And I mean maybe not exactly, but right about them, right right in the same camp area that we like to camp in. It's really nice, really nice area. It's between two creeks and it's really cool. This year, I decided to try something different. And what I decided to do is I was going to put up a two man tent I've got. I I called it the bait tent. So what I did is I put it kind of away from us, further down the creek, on this little ridge right above the creek. It's like maybe one hundred seventy five hundred feet up the embankment above the creek, but overlooks the creek.

20:20 And what I did is, I we just rebuilt our swimming pool and I got some solar lights for it that flash all different colors and stuff. And I got this really big one that it stays on all night once you get it charged up, and it's right, I mean, it's super bright and it flashes like six different colors. So I put that in there, and it's got a sensor that it dark and automatically turns on and it light it turns off. So so anyways, I put that inside the tent. And I should have put a microphone in there. The first night, honestly, we hackt so much stuff I couldn't find them and then everything started happening and I I just faced it. But so anyways, I put that in and we also put some snacks out on the table. We put a table next to it and made it look like a camper was there, had dreams and things out, just to see if sense of wind mess with it. And that was the only light in that area. I also brought up other lights. And so over where Rob was camping, he was he was on a hillside away from me, slightly over a ridge, and him and the two boys had backed their truck into the spot and they had their bikes leaned against some trees and they had a had a table and chairs out, and I put a strobe light facing down towards the forest because they were the closest to Skukum Ridge and they have this like one hundred foot patch of grass between them and the and the big trees.

21:51 So I put the strobe light facing down towards those trees, and then they could be seen from the top of Skukum Ridge because it's kind of open right there, so the light would shine all the way up that ridge. So I have this little it's a little Halloween stroke that runs on double A batteries. But that darn thing. You put two batteries and it'll probably run a week straight, but it just flashes real bright strokes. And I'll get to why this matters later. And then and then I put in two more pool lights over there that were smaller, or three three pool lights that were smaller. One of them, I sat on one of the bicycle seats and the bike was leaning against a tree. It was really sturdy where it was sitting, and I set this light on it.

22:34 I mean, it'd be really hard to knock it over, but it did get knocked over by something that night, so I'll keep moving forward. So so anyways, so got lights set up in their camp, got lights set up down at the bait thing, and then our trailer has LEDs along it and we leave those on at night, so lots of we're well lit. Across you know, this big area, across the whole area and over the ridge, and my brother was was he had his suv parked about I'd say it's about eighty feet away from our trailer kind of. There's a small small ravine between him and the bake tent and not many treaties. It's pretty clear line inside, and so he could see the bait tent and he could see the table that was set up next to it. So it starts to get darker.

23:33 We ate dinner, and then the night plan was to take the bikes and the pony out and make some noise and then come back in. We're going to go up what I call the front side of Scucam Ridge, which is the safe side. It's a really wide trail and no cliffs to fall off of, or at least not, manny, it's pretty safe, safe way to go. And because I had two teenagers with me, I wanted it to be fairly safe. So I take the I take the boys with me. I keep looking back and I'm on, you know, I'm electric powered, electric assist, and so I'm you know, not even breathing hard going up this hill, and these kids are just huffing and puffing, and it was it was, it was almost humorous. But all the way up, I'd given them I have a coyote call, and I got crow calls. I got all these game calls, and we're just blowing them left and right, just making a ton of noise. And we're wearing fluorescent yellow shirts and laughing.

24:33 And I had them yell at each other, you know, in fun, you know, not yell at each other, but with each other, making jokes and different things. And we're just we're just trying to have fun. Going up this ridge. We went about we're probably a mile out from camp, and we're way up in this ridge, but tons of switchbacks. It's really steep and heavily heavily wooded, heavy heavy brush in there too. And we get we get pretty far up and I keep thinking, I've been up there several times, and I couldn't remember how much further it was off up this one ridge, where off the other side is this huge valley you can see across to another ridge that is by some by some almost waterfalls. It's it's it's so rocky and so much water passes over it.

25:25 They're almost like waterfalls, but Anyways, I was trying to get up to that point, but I could see I was wearing those kids out, and man, they were huffing and puffing. And I asked, if you want to go back to like, no, let's keep going. It's like, are you sure, and they're oh, yeah, I did that about four times and not the fifth time. They're huffing a bus and yeah, let's let's go. Let's okay, we're shutting around. I don't want to get in trouble with your dad. So and and because of how heavily wounded it was, I mean, it looked pretty dark in there. I'm thinking, oh crap. I mean, some went down fast, you know, way faster than I you know, I thought it would, but it was how thick the trees were. It wasn't really the synagone down. It was still plenty of light at the bottom of the hill, but not up in there.

26:09 So we turn around. We started to go down the hill and that's that's where it all begans. So we're we're coming off this ridge and you have to go slow. It's just so steep you'll burn your brakes up and eat and the kids were walking anyways, it was too steep for their breaks, and and we started it. We got like three quarters of the way down the hill, and about the last quarter we started hearing toad noises, like a single crook like h. But it didn't sound like a toad. But it's only animal I could equate it to that was even close would be a toad. But it would do it one time and then no more.

26:51 So we'd hear like one hundred feet away off to the side here h, And then like keep going down the trail, and and like two minutes later, over to the other side of the trail, we'd hear yeah. And like I said, it's way deeper than that, way deeper and and and a little bit more like a toad. But I've been going up there since twenty nineteen and I've never heard a toad up there before. There's these little tiny tree frogs running around that crooked down by the creek, but nothing up in the trees. There's no water for you know, half a mile. I don't know why a toad would want to be in the deep force where there's no fluid. So anyways, the toads followed us down the hill. So we're going down the hill and then every once a while you hear one side or the other you hear, and then after a while you hear you're out. But never never two in one spot like toads. Normally we'll do a second call. These didn't.

27:56 They just made a single call so they can. Okay, Well, that's that's just odd, that's strange. Never heard toads up here before. And they don't really sound like toads, but that's the only thing I can equate it to. And so we get back down to camp, and once we got out of the thick trees, it wasn't pitch black anymore. It was a little bit of light left. And we crossed the rest of these little meadows and ravines and stuff, and then got back to got back to camp. So back at camp, we're sitting there talking, you know, and the kid's dad asked them, Hey, did you guys see anything, and they're like, no, didn't really see anything, but we heard these strange toads. And then all of a sudden, out of know where, this toad call comes like maybe two hundred feet down the hill from where their truck is, not near water, just down a hill. Rah. And then and just one one croak. That's it. And then about we're talking to stuff a few minutes we're like, oh, yeah, we heard these weird toads. And about five minutes later, off to the other side over here down the hill again from us. Yeah, single croak, never two, never tune one spot, and it's like the toad would move and go to a whole new spot, but he never sat

29:27 in one place and was trying to call in a mate or anything, and it just would croak a single time and that was it. So maybe toads. I don't know. I've never heard them up there before, really strange sounding. I have the I have the second night, I have them recorded, so I'll give you some toad calls. Oh awesome, that would be cool. Yeah, I should. I should have a couple recorded for it. Exaucept the second night, I put a mic over where the kids were and stuff. I didn't want to go too heavy with electronics the first night because you put up game cams and they don't come around. Put a microphone and they avoid it too. Mostly Now, if you put up a microphone where there's lots of other stuff, like people stuff, they may miss it. But like if you set it out on a stop or whatever. I've had them. I've had something come up and knock it over and knock the batteries out of it. I don't know how you get it open to knock the batteries out, but somehow the squirrel or whatever figured out how to open the little door on it too. So that was strange.

30:30 But so I didn't I didn't go real heavy with electronics because we had people on the ground and whatnot. That was good enough. Let's I trained the lights out. So so we, uh, we we get to our campsites, and I go over and hang out with the you know, with the kids and the dad for a while, and they're cooking at some dinner and I just said, well, I'm gonna I'm gonna go back and make some more food. And my friend John is back there, my brother and my girlfriend or are back at our camp and they're sitting around. I brought a propane fire thing that I got, so we have a fire pit. We're sitting around laughing and talking about the toads and stuff. And you could see you could clearly see the bait tent. It's like it's less than two hundred feet away from it's about one hundred feet hundred and fifty feet away from our setup, and it's just flashing bright. Oh gosh, that thinks so bright you could probably see it from space. And every time it flashes the bright colors, that lights up the whole creep bed for several hundred feet around it, and it's pretty cool. So anyways, starts to get a little bit later, and now it's about eleven or so, and I agree with my friend John that we should get some rest and we could wake up, you know, late night and listen for noises or you know, we both have thermals and so he can run the therms and

32:04 and see if we see anything, which we never did with the therms the whole time there, which was strange, but it happens. So anyways, we everybody crashes out. My brother decided to park on the other side of my friend John close to the bait tent. He's he's like eighty feet away from it, and he's parallel to it, so all this side windows on his passenger side are facing towards the bait tent and he can't sleep, so he stayed up all night basically sat up, and I don't know if he's reading or what he was doing. But he stayed up all night and he was he focused on the bait tent. He's kind of watched him.

32:45 And so so most of us go to sleep. My brother stays up, and and Rob and his kids they go to sleep in the back of in the back of their truck. They have I think it's a long bed. Anyways, they had sleeping bags and a map back there, so they're they're hunker down. It's an extended cab, but you can't really sleep inside the cab much. It's not real comfortable. And they had their bikes leading against some trees and stuff for the night. So anyways, everybody kind of kind of lays down and then things start happening. So at about at about midnight or actually I think it was about one am, my brother said he saw a movement down by the bait tent and what he saw was figures walking around the tent. And he says they were too big for people, too massive, and they were jet black, all monotone, you know, and obviously not people. He said they had long arms, cones, heads, big, big, big shoulders, big individuals walking around the tent, and he thought they were pretty big he estimated like eight feet tall seven eight feet tall, pretty easy, really broad. The light was

34:17 behind them though, so all he could see was silhouettes. But it tripped him out because he didn't really expect to really see any of these things up there. And like I said, he's a skeptic, and his whole family or skeptics. They laugh about it and joke about it. Well not anymore. So anyways, he's watching these things. And he said that over the next couple hours, they would leave for a while, then they'd come back and walk around the tent and they'd be looking down. There's a clear patch on the top of the tent. It has like four sides to it, and one of them has a triangle that's clear, so you can actually see in the tent above it. And they kept leaning over and looking through that, and he said so over the next couple of hours he couldn't sleep at all because he saw these silhouettes and he's he's just tripping. He didn't know whether to leave or what to do. You know.

35:18 He he doesn't carry any guns or anything. He's after the war, he went, he just doesn't want anything to do with him. But so his only thing he could do is really leave, but he decided to hang out because they kept leaving and then they'd come back, but they stayed over there by by the bag tent, and they kept coming up the hill and then walking around the tent, and they'd go to the table and mess with stuff on the table and and then go back to the tenant. So he watched it, you know, and I don't know the exact timeframe. From what I remember, I think he said it was between one and three o'clock. And then he said there was just a you know, it's just dead quiet. You know, he had his windows cracks so he had airflow, and he said it was just dead quiet. You couldn't hear a thing, just silence, which was weird because there's there's frogs down by the creek and there's those little ones that you know, one alone doesn't make much noise, but when you get a thousand of them, they do. And he says he can really hear them. He just he just he said, it was like, you know, just silent. So anyways, and and of course he's up on kind of away from the big tent, is at the top of this this ridge that goes to the creek and he's kind of on the other side of another small ridge, about about eighty feet away, seventy feet away from it. So I don't know if the sound from frogs to carry there, but I would think it kind of weak. And so he said it dead quiet, and he hadn't seen him for

36:49 like a half hour. They stopped kind of circling the tent that that activity kind of died out about a half hour. And then and this happens. He's he's looking down the hill. He has his back resting against the back of the front seat, and he's turned facing the camp and then all of a sudden, something bumps the side of his truck, his suv, and he said, it bumped it hard. It just rocked the whole thing. And he looked over and he saw what he said was about a nine to ten foot tall bigfoot walk right alongside the right, right alongside his glass, like brushing down the side of his suv. And he says, you you know, he couldn't see his shoulders or anything because it's way above his highlanders. Actually, the glass sits pretty high up.

37:51 You know, it's like six I'm going to ask me about sixteen. They are to the top of the windows in the suv in the back and the side windows, you know, in the passenger seats and driver's seat. Well, he said, you all you can see was it, you know, like its elbows as it went by, and and like its lower chest. And he said it was just just massive, just massive, and you know arms, you know, besides the telephone poles. Uh, just just huge. And anyways, it walks alongside of his rig and he's just terrified and he's watching it walk past, and it gets out in front of his suv and just keeps walking straight because the gravel road that kind of hooks off to the left, well kept going straight instead of staying on the road, which which he was on the side of. It went straight down into some trees and about one hundred feet away it disappeared into the trees completely. You know, there's so many trees there. He watched the walk off and he said, you know, four foot five foot wide, shoulders, comb shaped head, jet black and uh, off it went off.

39:11 It went down into the trees. They had a clear view of it for an extended Yeah, it. Was right at the front of his you know, right alongside his rig. So I was right. It was just on the other side of the glass from him, and you know, he was on the passenger side. It went down the driver's side, but yeah, three feet away, so and it was he said he thought it was brushing against the car, but it was that close. But it might have, he thought maybe because it was so massive. We looked the next day and there's dirt down the side of his cars. He's went down a dirt road, but there's no sign of anything brushing up against it. Okay, So so anyways, Uh, the thing walks by, it walks off, walks down the hill, and it's just an overload for him.

40:03 It was just too much. As soon as it went down in the trees. For after about five minutes, he hopped out of the back seat, hopped in the front, and drove off. He just said he was out, like he left. Yeah, yeah, wow. And and and dude, he fought in the you know yeah, and uh yeah, he's he's seen some action, but he said those things, it was just too much. Brought back a lot of woman And I mean, he's such a wonderful guy, such a great guy, and formed two to you know be that. Yeah, that's that much of an overload. It was just it was just a lot. What's that?

40:43 Is he okay now or. Oh yeah, yeah? He was fine the next day, he just said it was just too right in that moment. So in that moment, he hopped in the front seat and drove off, and he brought his camera gear and stuff. Again, he's photographer, So he decided he would just because he didn't want to leave, you know, without saying by, and you know, after all the effort we made to help him get there and everything. But so he went up, went further up towards Mount Hood, went up to Timberline and watched the sun come up. He got the Golden Hour photos of the mountain with snow on it. He also drove down to a nearby lake and got photos of the Golden Hour on the lake and stuff, just beautiful photos. I mean, he's such a good photographer. And then later that morning he came back to camp and to tell us what happened. So I'll finish with his story and then I'll move on with what else happened, because there was more than him just seeing one. Other people did too. So So anyways, so that morning he comes back and he tells us what happened, and he's like, I'm you know, I don't know what to tell you.

41:50 I really didn't think I was going to see one, and then I see multiple, and he just says, it's such an overload. I had to leave. It's just too much. He goes, you know, I just didn't know what they were going to do, you know, And this one was so big it could basically rip the truck and half stuff. You know, if it wanted me, it could have just reached right in and grabbed me. So he's just I had to head leave, you know, it's just too much. So anyways, he had fun, he said, said he said he had fun going up the hill and getting the photos and stuff, and he was in he was in a good movie. When he got back, he could still Sully was shaken, but you know it wasn't. He hit it pretty well. So so anyway, he uh. He says that the hard part for him is going to be the his family laughs that and the fact that I say, I've seen these things and and they get a kick out of it, and they make fun of it. And I invite him every year to come up, and last year was the first year he came up. And he didn't have a siding that some of us did. And then this year when he came up, they're they're making fun of him. Well, you'd be sure to want to get a picture, you know. And so now he has this sighting and he just goes Gary, he goes, I have to go back to this to you know, my wife at her parents' house. And the first thing they're going to ask me when I come through the door is did you see one? Did you see one? And he said, He's just going to look away and tell him I do not want to talk about it. Wow.

43:23 So he's just not even going to get into it with him because they're you know, they're skeptics and that you know, they'll think he's crazy. You know, it's terrible, terrible witnesses have to go through that, you know, like it's just it's the worst it is. But you know, now he gets me a little bit more, you know, because I lost a job because of this hobby, just because I mentioned I've seen him. You know, the owner was like, well, you know, this is weird and I'm not comfortable. So uh uh, back to back to what happened. So my brother pulls out about three thirty in the morning, so it's still like about an hour or more till life. And that spot that he was in was like the best spot to see the bay tent, right, So this is what where it gets really weird. So my friend is between us and my brother's truck with his he has a suv pulling this this small camper trailer.

44:25 It's like four feet tall and you climb into it and it's got a like a queen size mattress inside of it, and all the camping stuff is in a hatch on the back of it. Jones and in his camper there, and he has the door open on that side. Well, the door's like three foot tall and about three foot wide. Anyways, he has a wide open he's flat an airflow in that night, plus he's listening for anything that happened to the bay tent. He slept through all that activity but until this, so about three thirty in the morning, this is what happens. At three thirty in the morning, A black suv pulls in, like suburban suv and solid black, and it pulls in of any place in this area that we're at. Because this road kind of wraps around and there's tons of parking spots and stuff of any place to park. It parks in the spot my brother was in and it turns on this flashlight, which John, John's ex military. John was a marine. John has seen pretty much any kind of flashlight there is, he said, he's never seen anything like this. He said. It was a white light that shot a white beam straightforward, like you could see the light even though it wasn't dusty.

45:51 It was so bright, just kind of lit and maybe it was dust, but he said it just lit up as a spotlight, but brighter than any spotlight he's ever seen. And it looked hand Hell said. And it shined right on right on the bake tent. It didn't shine it anywhere else but just around the big tent and the bake tent. That was it. So this thing comes in and John could hear it coming. It didn't even slow down anywhere. It just stopped right at the bake tent, shines its light at it. And then the weirdest thing happened. The light, my my expensive pool light solar light goes out like shuts off, stops working.

46:32 It's still dark. As soon as it gets it with light it you know, it would turn off for a second, but it would turn right back on it and is the light you know. Plus you have to have a bright light to shine through a tent wall to shut this thing off, because I had to pointed in the other direction. So I don't know. It's the weirdest thing. So John's watching this rig. It rolled its window down, shine the light, it shining around it beamed it for he said, about a couple of minutes, and then it shut the light off and then drove off. Never came back, never came around again. Never saw it the next day, never saw it. Never saw it before that, never saw it after that. It just came into camps, into the road we're on and stopped the bait chance to shine a light right at it. It was the strangest thing, and I couldn't get that light to work again.

47:21 I had being tracked or something. I this is wild stuff. I think someone is tracking tracking the Bigfoot in these areas based on the other conversation I had recently with an in back. But how would it know, I don't know. Yeah, So so anyways, because I mean, we had lights elsewhere going to and it didn't stop to look at those. It just stopped at the bait tip where the activity was where my brother just had you know, saw the things walking around it, and then the one you know, oh one last thing about my brother and then and then i'll uh them were off him. But that next day, when when he came back and he was telling me, you know what happened with his truck, we walked around his truck to see, you know, something brushed up against it if there are any you know, because there's a lot of dust on it, see if there's any handprints or whatever. Something had torn a piece off his roof rack.

48:18 My brother is a fanatic about washing his car. He probably washed it on the way back to town, but he would know if that piece was missing, because he washed his car before he came up and he's owned this thing for three years now, never had a problem, not wrong. And to get that piece off, you'd have to get a finger, you'd have to get a flathead screwdriver under it, basically to pop it. And something just ripped it right off. So and it was it was a plate. It's about it's about five inches long and about six inches deep, and it kind of kind of t bone shaped. But anyways, something managed to pop that off, and he thinks that that loud bumpy heard is reached over and grabbing that and popping it off. But that piece is gone. Now we made we made fun of it.

49:11 We said, yeah, it's probably sitting in a big nest up there on top of scoop of ridge. You know. I'll get back to that in a minute. So so anyways, so that was the end of his experience. Okay, so that's this is Friday night. Still, So Friday night, not only did did see these things and have have one bump his rig and rip the piece off his rig, Rob had had had a sighting. So so Rob and his kids, you know, the same night, about midnight, one o'clock in the morning ish. Uh And and I'm going to try and tell tell it the way I heard it. I'm you know, I may have times off or something, but Rob, this is this is pretty much in a nutshell.

49:56 This is what happened. I had a strobe light set up that was shooting down towards the tree line, and I had three colored lights, one sitting on a bicycle seat and two one on a picnic table and one on a post down below the strobe light. So the strobe light's like probably about forty feet down from his truck off to the side, kind of shooting out where it gets maximum exposure of this small meadow that has heavily wooded old groove right next to it. The light was really lighting that baby up, but I pointed it to where it would shine up on Scuokum Ridge, so if anything's up there, it might attract it down. Well it did so. Basically they were as they woke up from a light sleep, hearing tree branches break, not just a couple, but some real loud breaks woke them up, and I don't I can't remember if Rob woke up or his sun woke up first, but one of them will the other one up. And they both looked over, sat up and looked over the top of the truck rail because they're asleep down in the truck. Looked over the truck railed down to where the strobe light was flash slashing, and they saw a figure he said it was.

51:11 It looked like it was about eight feet tall, and it walked from left to right across the meadow. He said it was. They had They watched it for like seventy five feet and it walked between two trees, really brushy, smaller fir trees, but walked between them and it disappeared. But they both saw it and they're both just tripping on it. And the young I think it was his youngest son, the youngest teenager is saying, I want to sleep in the cab. I want to sleep in the cab, and Dad's going, no, you're you're better off out here. You know, the thing is so big it just reached reached through the cabin. Great kids, really really nice, nice, well mannered. He has great kids, really smart too. So anyways, they're like tripping, you know, they saw this thing, and but they managed to settle back down. They laid back down so they could listen, you know, for any more tree breaks or you know, any noises whatsoever. About an hour or so passes by, and the older teenager hears some tree branches breaking, and he sits up and looked over the bedroom and this is a whole different event.

52:30 And the other two people are asleep, and he never spoke with them about what they saw or anything. I don't know if he just played dead or what he was doing. Yeah, when these others, I think the others were whispering though I don't think they were talking out loud anyways. So where he hears the tree branches breaking and stuff is where the first one had walked through, between two like twenty five or thirty five foot tall really bushy fir trees. He hears the tree branches breaking there and he sits up, but he looks over the bed and he sees one standing next to the tree, and he says it was like about an eight footer jet black. The strobe light would light it up, you know, well it'd light up the tree behind it, and you could see the silhouette of the black and I believe he said it had a cone shaped head, but it had yellow glowing eyes. And he said, the eyes just just glowed bright yellow. I've never seen eye shine before all the all the sightings I've had, I've never seen him.

53:37 But he said it was definitely eye shine and it was yellow, and it was, you know, eight feet off the ground, and he could see, you know, the figures that it was coming off of. So that scared him so bad because it was just standing there, just staring. That one scared him so bad that he crept real quietly out out of the bed of the truck. And flipped into the cab of the truck and he slept in the cab the rest of the night. I don't blame him. And so then that was that was I think, yeah, I think that was everything that happened on Friday. So Saturday comes around and we're having breakfast, and these boys are excited, man, and Rob's excited, and everybody was talking about the activity that happened the night before, and and we're we're still waking up, and I'm making coffee and making coffee for everybody, and and I could I could hear everybody's already up. There was a commotion going. Sun was up, and they were you can just tell they were so excited that what they saw, you know, having a siding and everything. And I woke up and made coffee, and then they came over to our campsite and they told me, you know what I just told you, basically everything about their siding, about this. They get done doing that, my brother rolls in and he tells us about what he saw. And then not long after that, Joe Bee

55:08 Lark shows back up. He showed up the day before for a quick visit and then took off. Well, he showed back up with his tent, and I was camp gared he was going to come up in the camp after all. We didn't think he was gonna make it, but he made it. He made it anyway, It's always fun having Joe up there. He always makes way too much good food and it shares it with everyone, so I don't mind sharing. It's an amazing cook and it's just fun. So anyways, we went out and we looked to see if we could find any tracks. There's no tracks anywhere. Tracks around the tent, no tracks anywhere. I did find up this really steep, mossy covered ridge right next to where the tent is, that drops down to the creek. I did find a trackway, and I'll circle back to it here in a bit. And the steps were about six feet apart, and it appeared like something dug in, like a human dug in with his toes and took six foot steps if a human had you know, feet that are you know, seven inches wide. But anyways, uh so I found found one trackway and then noticed that all the food I'd put out the night before was gone, all of it gone, and the plate was right where I said it hadn't moved an inch and the fork was jammed down in between the table in a strange way, and the cans were right where I

56:41 left them. Everything everything else was right where we left it. So the plate didn't move, but it was empty, and it had had a piece of piece of steak on it had a lot of steak ribby juice because I cooked ribbis. I left it just full of ribby juice. And it was it was lick clean, I mean it was dry. There was no sign of oil, grease, nothing, I mean completely lick dry, which I just found amazing. I kept it. You know, if you ever have somebody that wants some bigfoot DNA or want to run something that possibly has it, I put it in a plastic bag and I have it frozen. If somebody ever wants to run DNA that listens to this channel, you're welcome to run this one. I have eyewitness that was saw him walking around this table. So and I can't think of anything that would lick a plate and put it right back to where it was.

57:32 Wow, So you have a frozen plate that probably has DNA on it. Yes, Oh my goodness, elected So sure I believe that. Yeah, we'll we'll be in touch about that. Okay, okay, yeah, okay, yeah, well well yeah, I've got some ideas. That's really interesting, Gary. Yeah, and I have a witness that they're around the table. I have a military expert that saw them right there. Now did they did the experts see them lick the plate? I don't. I don't know that he did, but they were right there, multiple bigfoots right there, and the plates clean, and the plate was was not moved.

58:17 And it had like Ribi trippings on it, right. Yeah, And it had had small pieces of Rabbi on it to begin with, but they were gone. It had it had Ribi grease probably a quarter inch deep that covered like eight inches, I mean the entire bottom of the plate, and it's all gone, all of it is gone. They must like barbecue. So so anyways, yeah, I got the plate. It's frozen in plastic. Never touched it, just put it, put it in a plastic bag and frozen. So yeah, if somebody wants some bigfoot DNA, I got some. Probably be something to look into. Hopefully my house doesn't get broken into. Now it's not in the house, it's.

59:01 It's down at the barn. Anyways, it really is down at the barn. So so anyways, uh yeah, so so the bait tent worked, uh you know that night anyway, and uh, we we couldn't find any any you know, any discernible tracks. Saw little bits and pieces, but you couldn't really say it with the track, you know, lots of flattened grounds, that's nothing, nothing discernible. So Saturday was weird too. So we we get we get Joe Wall settled in. Everybody has some lunch and stuff and and we're all enjoying the day. The kids are out riding their bikes and uh, and my girlfriend decid she's gonna walk one of our horses down by the creek. There's a trail that kind of wraps around and and it crossed. There's a creek crossing on a thousand feet below our camp and uh, you have to there's lots of tons of trails back in there though, And she just walked the horse on these trails and was walking this pony. This pony hasn't been under saddle yet. We're training it right now. It's it's one of our up and coming racehorses. And so it did its first creek crossing. It's it's never done one before in its life, and it did so well.

1:00:32 It was just really impressive. But it's it's being very calm and it's it's just it's doing what it's supposed to do. And then it gets across the creek and all of a sudden, the loudest power knock that that you could imagine happened about fifty feet away and some and some really thick brush just on the other side of the creek. It was so loud. My girlfriend said, there's no way somebody with a baseball bat could do that. It was like ten times louder than a baseball bat hitting a tree, and just it was a It shook the ground. It was a power knock, and you know, and I don't know if these things take a rock and hit a tree to do that, I don't know how they do it. But anyways, the knock was so loud scared the daylights out of the horse, and the horse bolted instantly ran up the trail, and then it realized that my girlfriend was back behind him and he doesn't know where he'd asked, so he stops about one hundred feet up the trail and he's shaking the little you know, he can tell he's justit nervous and looking around.

1:01:40 He's looking right where that knock was. The yours are up and he's looking right at and she walks up to him, calms him down, and then they keep walking up the trail. Well, she heard knocks, tree knocks all the way up on the other side of the creek. Eventually it comes around and there's a bridge you can cross, and she crosses the bridge back to the road that you know that we're camping on. And uh so that happened, and then from then the rest of the day on, we could hear knock down down across the creek. The rest of that day into the evening, you could hear knocks all every every couple hours or so, and you'd hear more of them, Like if one of us would go out on a trail any direction, if you left the camp in any direction, you start to hear knocks down down by the creek, down in this area across the creek from us. And so that was that was that was kind of weird. So I went ahead for the second night. I just said I was going to set microphones out, and I did. I set I set one in the bait can and I set one over by the by the teams over where the toads were, and I'm pretty sure I got to noises on tape.

1:02:54 I'll I'll give them to you if I if I find them, you know, And if I that, some people are like, well, what are you know now? Right now? Why are we? You know? Honestly, I've been. Doing this for I don't know how many years now, and I'm not trying to make money off of it. I'm not, you know, obviously, Yeah, and I'm interested. For me, it's more the being right there and having this happen is the exciting part to me. Having evidence of it. It doesn't matter what evidence I present, people aren't going to believe it anyway, So I just don't care about that much other than yes, I do try to gather it. I think it's fun, but you know, I'm not trying to prove anything, so give or take it as it is. And you know, the bad thing is I have years of video with encounters of these things, with sightings with with a video of one pushing a tree over and and the one I'm about to get to.

1:03:54 I took video of this night to something, you know, another siding and and I have a poster. Yeah, but I'm going to this winter, I'm gonna I'm gonna upgrade my site Bigfoot Research Project on YouTube and I'll upload all of this up. There's just so it's all in one place and then everybody can see it. But so anyways, to get on with the day, I h it's starting to get starting to get darker in the afternoon, and I asked the kids if they'll go with me and and Rob if they'll go with me up the backside of Scuokam Ridge because that's where the most activity is and we're going to pull them in on Saturday night. That's where it's going to happen from. And my girlfriend says, you know, let's take the pony. So she gets on.

1:04:38 She gets on our older horse, our our our champion, and she's she rides it and she's running behind us on the way in. I'm out front and I got Rob and his two sons behind me on bike and we go. It's about a mile out to where the water crossing is the first river and you go across the meadows where we've had sightings before in the meadows on the way there, and there's nothing going on in them. But we're making noise the whole way there again, you know, crow calls, coyote calls, just making just a ton of noise, laughing, you know, yelling each other, bright bright yellow shirt, you know, bright green, you know, not hiding anything, not being sneaky whatsoever.

1:05:22 And the horse is coming up behind us, and you can, you know, a thousand pounds horse you could hear from a distance, you know, if you're standing anywhere near him, you can feel them go by. So anyways, the horse pounds by us, and we get down to the creek and decide to make which I've done in the past, make a teepee out of sticks, six foot tol sticks, put some cross limbs through it, and I put bait on it. I put apples and cookies and stuff on that. So anyways, we do that and get I get it all baited up and whatnot. And my girlfriend went ahead and crossed the river on her horse to the other side. Well there's two more before you go up the backside of scooka bridge, and she was going to go ahead and cross all three, just because we like keeping the horse, you know, in shape, and the more water crossings you do, the easier it is to get them to cross water like, especially when you're racing. So we want to want her to do as many crossing as we can. So she crosses the first river, which is the biggest, she gets starts going towards the second one, and the horse is startled.

1:06:29 It rears up and spins around and runs back to the river. Does that river crossing, comes back to our side and keeps looking back, and my girlfriend's going, there's something right there. There's something just on the other side of the river. Something's going on. This horse is not afraid of bear, is not afraid of cougar. We see them all the time. It doesn't care for him, you know, don't get me wrong, but it doesn't. It won't rear us. So anyways, whatever it was, it didn't care. So we're all looking across. We're up on this. We're up on a ridge. The rivers down below us were probably I don't know, fifty seventy five feet up this ridge, looking down at the river which is about I don't know, seventy eighty feet across. It's about three feet deep and up the other side of the embankment that is probably twenty feet tall and then it flattens out. And then there's ridges just just to the side of it that go up like seventy five hundred feet that start heading up the hill that you know, start going up the mountain.

1:07:36 And I've heard whoops up in up on those ridges right above the trail where the horse goes up. I've heard them several years in a row. Didn't hear anything. Then I thought I heard like some tree branches breaking, And I look over and I see a silhouette on the other side, and it's probably it's between the first in the second river, and it's up on this up on this ridge up to the left. It appears to have its back to us. It's getting you know, it's read at twilight, so it's fairly dark in there, but I can make it out. I can see if it was a bigfoot, okay, because I I'm assuming it was.

1:08:23 If it was a big foot, it had to be at least nine feet tall, maybe bigger. It was massive shoulders, shoulders would be about five feet wide. The head was, you know, right on the shoulders, no neck, and it came up to a cone head. It appeared to have its back to us. It was jet black looked like covered in black hair. But it was a way of a way. I mean it was, you know, two hundred feet away, and I could see between there's these these limbs of this tree right next to me, and there's a couple of trees. He's on the other side of the river that you know. The base of the tree is like four feet around or so. It's really old growth there, And I could line it up and I could see it very clearly from right where I was standing.

1:09:13 If you move off to the sides, you can't see it. If you move down, you can't see it. You have to be standing right where I'm at. So I grabbed one of the boys and I told him, I told everybody, you know, quiet, and then came here. And one of the boys came over and I pointed, and he goes, I see it. I see it right there, and brought the second boy over. He says, I see it. It's right there. Brought Rob over. I see it. It's right there. No way, Bob says, I'm going to walk towards it. So he starts walking down the embankment and he gets about twenty thirty feet down, like halfway down, and he yells a. No, it's a it's a Burt Burt's down our a a rootball, a burnt root ball. And I'm telling them there's no way a rootball is shaped like that.

1:10:08 He goes, well, that's what it looks like from down here. And I go, I go, well, you can't see it from down there. You're you're below the hill, You're below the line of sight. He goes, well, that's what I think it is. I go, okay, I'm you know whatever, I'm not. I'm not going to argue with you, dude. I got a video of it right here because I had it on GoPro, and we'll see, we'll see what it is. Wow, that's why. So we turn around. We said, okay, well let's get out of here. The horse is like already gone, and I told those guys I got to catch the horse. I gotta. I gotta go be with my girl. I'm not going to let her be alone on this trail. I could hear the horse moving off, so she wasn't that far away from me. But you know, I gotta I got I got electric motor on my fat tire bike, and I can catch it pretty quick. I can go about twenty five miles an hour on that thing. So anyways, I caught up to her and she goes, yeah, a really creepy feeling back there. Horse. It will not go anywhere near the you know, that area for the rest of the night. So just why I've got to camp.

1:11:11 And she goes, I'll hang out here in the meadow with you if you want, and I was like, sure, you know, we can hang out. We'll wait for the kids. So we're hanging out there and then one of the kids came up to Trill and he's like, Dad said I could come with you guys. I was like, yeah, always, you know, you're always welcome. So he catches up. So I'm looking across the meadow and I see a figure standing across a meadow from us, and I'm like, what is that? And I got camera on it. You know, it's in the tree line on the far side, but it's getting so dark, you're really it's really hard to make out trees or anything else. But this looked like a humanoid figure, i'd say, about seven foot tall, kind of lanky, standing there. So the other boy and Rob catched back up to us, and I'm going, dude, look right over there. Right over there, and the boys are going, we don't see it, you know, we don't see it, but we want to go. And I was like, all right, we don't leave, you know, not a problem. We'll go.

1:12:15 And so we turned the horrors horse starts heading out, and so we're starting to pull away and Rob goes, well, I'm going to walk towards it. I said, okay, good for you. You have fun with that. I got to catch the horse. I'm going to take your boys back to safety here. So here we go, and he, yeah, I have no problem. So one of the boys stayed right where he was. The older boy did, and and Rob started walking across the meadow. But it's so dark and he and he just can't see anything over there. It's just it's just too dark. And the sun just kept going down and went pitch black. So so then everybody goes back to camp and settles in. We break out the therms where and everything, all the tree lined down by the creek, up and down the creek. Just nothing, nothing on seeing my seeing bats, seeing you know, the usual stuff. But nothing. And then this is the last thing that happened, and it's pretty much the end of any activity. But it's about eleven thirty at night. John and I were walking around with our therms for about an hour and sat down on this bench that's over by his rig that looks over towards the bake tent and then across the creek from that, and there's like the creek splits into a ye down below the bait tent and it turns into two creeks that are side by side with a little bit of a bank in between them. But on the far side of that about

1:13:48 i'd say, three hundred feet away from us, up up the embankment from the creek, up in the real thick growth trees, we see an orange ball of light, just a single light, not not two, not three, just one. It's about the size of a basketball. And the strange thing about it is it was just kind of floating through the trees in a straight line towards the creek, and it stayed about eight feet off the ground and was just a like a dull orange But it didn't bob up and down, so it wasn't like a head lamp on somebody's head. It didn't shine back and forth like you'd be looking. You know, if you're walking, you'd want to look down at the trail and look around, you know, see where youre going to step. There's it's not real safe through there to walk at night. But it just floated and it floated towards us through the trees.

1:14:50 Was sitting right next to me. I go, I go, dude, look look at look at the bait, tim and then look ten feet to the right of it. But pass it up into the trees across the little creek valley here. And he goes, I see it. It goes to orange ball alike. I go, yeah, And he goes, coming towards the creek, I said, yep, it is. And you could see that there were some small trees between us and that because it would it would go, you know, just on the other side of them. And it kept heading across the hillside. But it didn't drop down and it didn't go up. It just right the same high started coming towards the creek. So it comes out and it's like above on the edge of the embankment that goes down, I mean drops down in the creek and it's like just stayed there for like sixty seconds or so. And it's pretty bright by then because now there's no trees, no brush, anything that can interfere with us seeing it.

1:15:54 Like I said, it is about about the size of a basketball. And then it just first course and went exactly back where it came from. It didn't move side to side, it didn't go up or down. It just went in a straight line, exactly the path that it came in on. And I saw it go through the trees for about one hundred feet, probably between between seventy five and one hundred feet before it completely disappeared and it went back in where it popped out from. Wow, I've never seen anything like that. I've you know, I heard people would see a ball of light around these things.

1:16:34 I've never I've never seen that, you know, I've never seen one of these going visible. There's I mean, there's a lot of things I've never seen. Well, now I've seen a ball of light and it was orange. And my friend was sitting right next to me he thought too, and we watched it and it was just whisper quiet. The girls were behind us, back by the RV, just laughing and having fun, quietly laughing and having fun. Where we were at we were far enough way can barely hear them. And the whole time, this thing was just dead silent. All you could hear was the creek and it didn't. Like I said, it couldn't have been a helmet camp because there's no way you could stay perfectly level across the terrain it was on, and it was about eight to ten feet off the ground. So it just I can't explain it. I don't know what it was. Now.

1:17:25 Could if somebody held a flashlight perfectly level for one hundred feet maybe, but not one that's twelve inches around. So anyway, it was just the weirdest thing. And that was kind of the last thing that happened. The next day, I gathered my microphones and all the lights and everything. Oh one thing I left out that first night over at Rob's camp, something took one of my lights. My light was missing, and so we were making jokes, Well it's with you know, it's up in that nest next to that Toyota Park. You know they have a light show now that every night, you know, until that solar dies, they'll have a party every night up there. So So anyways, the next morning, Joe, everybody packs up. We have big breakfasts.

1:18:17 Everybody packs up and we all had our different directions, and you know, we looked for tracks, never found any other than the trackway. I let Cliff Berry Clinn know, found a trackway you might want to look at. He came up and looked at I think that trackway because we found two of them. And he said it was a bear. And I told him, what, I don't know any bear that could take six foot strides. But maybe it jumped off, you know, he's jumping off this real steep show. And so it spread it it steps up because of that and did double steps where it did touchdown, but the steps were six to seven feet apart. Wow.

1:18:58 And and then there was a second track way further down that Cliff didn't see that one of the teams picked up. And I have photographs of that stuff too, so okay, But anyways, so I have video, I have I have audio, and I have some photographs. I am by far not the best investigator in the world. I just kind of do it for fun, but you know, because it's interesting to me. But any of that that I find that's valuable, that total noises and stuff, I'll send to you. I would appreciate that. Uh my goodness, Gary, I'm so happy that I'm so happy that happened to you and new group. You might find this interesting.

1:19:41 Uh. The local I interviewed the other day says that the orb thing happens so much that they're actually called wisps by locals in the area, so they're seen a lot. The Bigfoot for that area. The local way of referring to it is the man of the ridge. So that's interesting too that they actually have like a local, local way of referring to it. It's such an incredible account. I'm glad that you were able to have I mean, and and new people in the group were able to have experiences like that. That's that's very special. That area is so so incredibly active. I'm so glad we were able to have this conversation. Gary, I know it it We had to go back and forth a little bit just because of like cancer stuff.

1:20:29 But well, right now I'm doing fifty four hour a week, so yeah, that's why I have these videos up and some I'm so tired at night i can barely keep my eyes open. And then yeah, you know, six thousand trees. We have a tree farm, so I'm going to do an irrigation, different things too, But I'm glad we got together. This is great. You know, your show is by far my favorite, and I've listened to quite a few different podcasts. I'm actually on one. I just think it's really important to people like me. I want to hear a first hand account, not a possible made up story. And I think that people can just be real and you can tell, you know that they've seen these things, They've been around these things. These things terrify me. They do. I get asked, well, why do you keep going up? Why do you Well, I'm not going up there to shampoo one. I'm just going up to see see one from one hundred feet away.

1:21:22 If I can on get it on camera. You know, that's as close as I ever want to get. I don't want a pet one or have one pet me. So do you feel like you you reached because your goal was to get one on camera? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, that was a goal. Yeah yeah. Well, now now my friend wants to talk to one because he has before, and and now I'm kind of thinking, I wonder what would be like, you know, but I don't know. I don't know. I think you're about to ask me, did I meet my goal? And am I done? Yeah? I mean, I remember you talking before that like that was the big goal was to try to get try to get one documented like that.

1:22:05 Well, it has to be better than Patterson Gimlin's film, and it's anything I got good. So you know, until I get that, I really can't say I nailed it, you know. But you know you've got to remember too, We're out race of horses every weekend. I go all over Oregon and Washington. We're up by Fort Lewis at Town, up by up by Mount Adams, a ton Trout Creek. I mean, we raced all over the Coast Range, and we practiced on the weekends. We're not racing, so we're exposed to these things everywhere. They're all up and down the coast Range. I've had sightings in the Coast Range. I've had encounters. They're everywhere. So if a person's afraid that they're going to encounter one of these things, you need to stay out of the woods. But I think that what happens with a lot of people is they'll see them like I did, and then at first you're kind of terrified, but after that the curiosity thinks, Then you know, what are there? Are they? People like us.

1:23:04 Are they monkeys? You know, what are they? And you know, something that's been brought up is there's never been a large ape found in North America. No bones, no teeth, no nothing. And I don't think they're a monkey. But they have found giant bones and they you know, Smithsonian keeps losing them. But you know, they found giants all over the US over a thousand sets of bones. And and so I think that they're more like us than they're not. And I've heard them talk on multiple occasions. They have a language, they you know, they talk with each other, and and I think they're more like us than they're not. I just think that they're a more primitive living version of us that survived all these years and obviously is doing well because you hear about more sightings than ever, you know, And they seem to live just outside of for the most part, just outside of civilization.

1:24:04 They're not far and come into civilization all the time apparently. So absolutely, absolutely, Yeah, I've heard of I've heard lot past saying they go through their garbage and stuff. So now are they they eat garbage? Could be I don't know. We living in the forest, that's for sure. Yeah, And they hunt than we do. And and a lot of a lot of people are military trained and they hunt better than they do. So they're smart when it comes to some things, that's for sure. Oh no, no doubt about that. Gary. I'm always glad to to talk to you and I have you on the show, and thank you so much for coming on again. It sounds like you will continue to to go up and and try to have these experiences. Well, yeah, as long as you can.

1:24:55 I have some military some friends of mine have told me some stories that are in the military about Fort Lewis that you may want to hear about one of them pretty pretty uh uh extreme. I'll just say yeah, with that one, that might be actually a really great chat because those are hard to get documented. A lot of those individuals get a little freaked out, which is totally understandable. It's hard for them to come forward. So yeah, yeah, I can't mind. Yeah, I know a secondhand account, but it's so it's so amazing what happened. And there were like six or eight policemen involved that ran off, gott in their cars, drove off, and one military guy that takes his old r V up there that got just beat and you know.

1:25:49 So that was one and then there's another one up by Detroit Lake that you're going to want to know about about the bear that got toward to pieces and that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so there's some stuff that you know, again, to be secondhand, it wouldn't be me, but I trust my. Source so absolutely. Well, well, we'll have to set something up for the future. But thank you so much for coming on Gary. Real quick. I want to make sure that people that is super clear to people that you've got a great channel. People can watch some awesome video on Can you talk about that for a few minutes before we're done, Yeah, just real quick.

1:26:32 In twenty nineteen, I really wanted to. I decided I would get evidence of these things and at least show show evidence of the siding that we had where my girlfriend's soft five of them and I saw one, and so we retraced our steps with the GoPro and ever since then, we've been taking the go pro up when we go to this spot and others, and I take video of it and I put it on YouTube and the channel is called Bigfoot Research Projects. Basically, the channel has video from several years of us going up there. The most recent years I keep threatening to put up and I'm going to probably this winter. Just hold on, I'll get it up there. The websites had somewhere between three quarters and a million views. But it's just trail cam, you know. It's just me going down the trail with the GoPro on behind the horse or in front of the horse and pick it up all this and so videos that aren't up yet, or the last couple of years where I have one pushing a tree over, I have.

1:27:40 This year's the one with us back to us, the ones out in the field, a couple more. Last year I had to look through some brush out in the field. So I haven't put those videos up yet, but I haven't been real driven to just because my day job is so it's so rough and popping. But anyways, so but I am going to this winter. I'll, you know, by Christmas, i'll have all the new video of a ton of audio because I take audio as well, and we'll we'll, we'll build it up. Right now, there's some pretty cool stuff you can see, rocks thrown by me, and a couple of sightings and stuff. So it's it's kind of fun as it is, but it's all just live footage. I'm I'm you know. I don't make any plans.

1:28:27 We just go out and I ride with the horse and whatever comes on camera comes on camera. But thank you for bringing it up. It's the Bigfoot Research Project. That that company name UH was an old name for one of the four horsemen had UH had the company here in Oregon where you'd go up around Mount Hood and and hunt them down, and he had it on the side of his jeeps and everything. So actually a very famous name. I bought the company's name and UH, so now I can use it. But I just really like the name, the Bigfoot Research Project, and just just know, you know, we did it for fun and because we're really interested in this, and we just come across these things on horseback all the time. So we just decided, well, hey, let's do something about it. It'd be fun to get some recordings, some different things. So so we do it.

1:29:17 And I don't believe in lying or making something up to say, facialize it. And I don't make a dime off of this. No, I have no interest in But I am interested in the truth and uncovering what these things are and showing what I know and someday when they scientifically get proven. People look at my foot to go, oh yeah, that's just part of a file of stuff that people have seen them, you know, not a big deal. This guy. He's just another farmer, you know, another tree farmer out there, just these stuff on horsebacks. So I love it. Always fun to talk to you. Gary. I'm going to go ahead and stop recording here before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that no one can explain, or if you're a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense, if you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field, or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under

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