Aug. 27, 2026

A Coal Miner Saw Something 8 Feet Tall Near McLennan, Alberta

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Season 1

Bigfoot sightings stretch across North America in this episode of Bigfoot Society, with firsthand witnesses sharing encounters from Alberta, British Columbia, Kentucky, Pennsylvania, Connecticut, and beyond.


A coal miner describes driving near McLennan, Alberta, when an enormous dark figure appeared beside the railroad tracks. He watched it take four full steps, estimated it at 7½ to 8 feet tall, and backed his car up for another look. What happened in the woods afterward—and the reaction of a nearby dog—has stayed with him ever since.


In British Columbia, we hear about generations of Indigenous Bukwus stories from the Kitimat and Kemano region, along with a chilling scream heard from the shoreline during a boating trip.


A Kentucky investigator shares a nighttime thermal encounter with a massive upright figure near Fords Ferry Road. Another Kentucky witness remembers following enormous humanlike footprints through fresh snow outside Elizabethtown until blood appeared beside the tracks and something began violently shaking the vegetation ahead of him.


We also hear remarkable historical accounts from Connecticut firefighters, a nighttime encounter from western Pennsylvania, and stories passed down from the remote Yukon community of Beaver Creek.


These are firsthand experiences, family accounts, and local traditions from people willing to put their stories on record.


Listen through to the end. Episode 1186 covers a remarkable amount of territory, and several of these locations deserve a much closer look.


If you've had a Bigfoot or Sasquatch encounter, contact Bigfoot Society and share your story.



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You're listening to BIGFA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us. Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers

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as he continues his fight against cancer. For more updates

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about his medical journey, please go to the carring Bridge

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link in the show notes. Thank you, Hi there, How

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are you good?

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Are you hey?

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Doing good? Thanks for coming up. Feel free to share. Man.

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So it's been quite a few years. I don't remember

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exactly what year was. I've I've had too many concussions

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since then, so my memory is not the best. But

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I was out on a boat. We live at in

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the water. So my community is only about just under

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a thousand people, and part of my territory is in

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the in the Commando area. It's a different area than

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this spot. There was a reserve there. Anyway, it's one

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of our most spiritual spots, and there's many bigfoot stories

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about it. But I was out with my dad one year,

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and I think it was my nephew Jordan.

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We were.

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We went ahead on my little sixteen foot boat.

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And my dad was coming behind in the big fifty

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two foot boat, so he was much slower. So we

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went ahead to get some crabs. And the bay that

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we went into was close to where all the stories

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took place from our history in dealing with because because

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is bigfoot in our language, and so I don't know,

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you know, I'm a hunter. I've been in the bush

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ever since I was eight. I started fishing with my

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dad when I was eight years old in nineteen seventy seven, and.

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I've seen and heard a lot of things. But the scream.

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That came out of those woods kind of sounded like

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an elk and a bear row at the same time.

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The scream that it gave out, we didn't even say

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a word, my nephew and I. We looked at each other,

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pulled up the crab pots and left.

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Wow.

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Oh, my goodness. This is north of Seattle, right.

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Yeah, way up north and kidd of at BC.

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Oh this is up in BC. Okay, gotcha?

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Yeah?

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Oh wow, because you said Kamana Kamana and I was like, well,

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maybe this is down by Whidby Island, but now you're

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saying this is further north.

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Kimano is a is a owned by.

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What is it called Rio Tinto alcan.

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So.

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So in Kimando there is a camp about fifteen kilometers

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up the river, and they drilled a hole through the mountain,

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like all the way over the Houston Way, they drilled

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a hole right through the mountain to start a hydro

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electric right, and this is around the same area where

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all the stories take place.

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You think that could be connected in some way.

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I think so, yeah, yeah, because you know our people,

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you still live out there. But in the early nineteen hundreds,

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the what was it influenza or smallpox yep, wiped out

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our second community that was about five thousand strong down

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to the last living Naxila person just died a few

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years ago.

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Wow.

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So that part of our history was totally wiped out.

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Oh, I can't imagine that.

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On that same time, the early nineteen hundreds. My great

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grandmother was one of three child bearing women left in

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our community.

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Oh my goodness, how has so I would assume that

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growing up, did you hear Bigfoot referenced in certain ways?

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And what's that part of your culture?

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Yeah, it's a big part of our culture because a

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lot of the stories that we've heard and have been

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told on our lives. You know, I'm fifty seven years old,

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and I started hearing those stories in the early nineteen seventies.

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From my great grandmother.

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My great grandfather was dead by then, but my great

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grandmother lived until she was about one hundred and three,

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and I heard all sorts of stories from her growing

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up because I spent a lot of time with her.

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You know, I got ghost stories that will just chill

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your socks off. But the Bigfoot, but was in our language,

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is a big part because the some of the stories.

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One of the stories.

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Is one of our old timers way back in the day,

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like in the forties or something like that, fifties sixties,

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maybe went out hunting.

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Out there.

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And thought he saw a nice black bear, and you know,

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we eat black bear, we smoked them. And thought he

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saw a big black bear and he shot it. And

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the story is that it let out the most blood

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curdling scream you've ever heard, and then a whole bunch

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of them came out of.

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Everywhere.

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They couldn't tell where they were coming from, but there

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was a whole family of these because and they started

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chasing this man because he shot their dead.

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Gotcha.

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Wow?

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Oh that is that is absolutely wild. What do you

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think the most important thing you've learned about them over

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the years would be, if you had to pick one

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thing respect respect.

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Yeah, because.

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We were taught never to, you know, to believe in

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these stories, first of all. And I believe because of

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the things I've seen in my life and experienced, you know,

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and I've had witnesses actually see what I've seen, because

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you know, I believe totally in in in the culture

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of big feet and.

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Stuff like that. But sorry, what was your question?

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Yeah?

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How far do you think your culture's stories regarding a

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bigfoot or buck West go back?

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Oh jeez, well over one hundred years.

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Wow, it's absolutely fascinating.

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Our people have been here. You know. I grew up

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hearing how our village came to be.

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Was a guy from down South, a native from down South,

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was shun from his family and his village, and there

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was a party trying to kill him. So he came

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up the kid of at arm which is right outside

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my window.

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The high tide mark.

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Is sixty feet away from my house when you look

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out the window. So you know, I get scatter brained.

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What was I saying?

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I was just curious about about how how far back

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the stories go, and it's it's extremely interesting. But I

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appreciate you coming up and you know, sharing stories that really,

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you know, you might be one of the last people

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to be able to share if you think about it.

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It's very special to have you up here. So thank you,

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Thank you. I'm going to check in with a few

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other people, but I hope that you are able to

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hang out with us in the room. Hey Stephen, how

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are you?

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Hey?

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How you doing?

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Man?

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Hey?

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All right?

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So I was, uh, I'm a PARAOL investigator, right, I've

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been to it now for about six years. So we

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we decided we wanted to go, me and my team

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go to a place called Fort's Ferry Road.

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It's got like a little legend.

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It's actually in Marion, Kentucky, and the legend behind it was,

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you know, uh, old man, old man forward.

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He would be rolling to these people. He would take

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them to this.

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Road and and just pretty much decapitate them and throw

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them in this little hole close to Illinois. And well,

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that night we get over there and to make a

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long story short word, investigating and stuff, and we hear something,

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you know, we hear like these crackling noises and we're like, oh, oh, dear,

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you know, I have a thermal. I'm not gonna say

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the G word. I have a thermal. Pew, you know

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what that is? Right?

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So I had that and uh, I look over there.

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I don't see nothing, and then we hear this bang,

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and I'm like, what the world could that be? And

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we hear another crack of the sticks and I put

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it up again and there it is, and there I

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see this and you know, in thermal.

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Vision, I see this this thing.

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It's it's standing up on his feet. It's you know,

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it's it's it's walking, but it looks like it's walking

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in place.

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Man.

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And it's I mean, we try to, you know, reinvent

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the caption. I stood over there, but we couldn't get

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the exact dimensions. But I see this thing walking in place.

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And as it's walking in place. It's moving its hands

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like a human. But the problem is, man, is that

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it's way too thick, way too thick to be an

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actual person, right, And I'm like, why is this thing

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walking in place?

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And then we hear a ah.

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And I'm like what was that? You know.

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I'm like, I'm like I'm getting nervous, you know, I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait,

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that's not no human. And as it's walking in place, man,

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it finally starts walking, but it walks. It walks like

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towards us. And then like I kind of I'm kind

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of like, hey, let's get to the car, you know.

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And I'm a hunter, right, like it's stuff, don't stor

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on me, Like it doesn't stow them at all.

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I don't know. I don't have like this.

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Fear of animals, but it's like I get this like

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like this presence of like, well, what something's coming at us, guys.

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So we'll get to the car and I'm holding the

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thermal on the whole time.

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And finally once it gets now it's not getting enough

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to where I can see, but it's it's dark, you know.

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That's why I had to have a thermal pe in

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the first place. It's not getting enough to where I

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can see anything, but as it's walking towards us, it

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just makes it right and it starts walking off and

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it goes all the way in the distance until I, uh,

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I don't sit no more on my thermal pew. Now,

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I wanted to go over there, and I wanted to

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visualize what I saw. The team though, like I only

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had to, you know, to women with me. They're like, hey,

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I don't really felcomfortable with this. I'm like, hey, let

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me check it out. Let me let you in the car.

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They're like, well, if you get in the car, we're leaving.

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So they so we got in the car and we left.

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I went back the next day. It was so dark

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that I couldn't judge exactly where this thing would have

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been standing, so I couldn't get an accurate description of it.

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But man, that's that's what I saw. Man, I know

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I saw something. I'm not a big believer, and you know,

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I'm not gonna say I don't believe in Bigfoot, but

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I've never seen enough evidence to prove it to me.

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But that night, what I saw I can't explain. And

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it wasn't a human, so and it will stand up

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on two feet and it was big. I don't know, man,

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I have no idea.

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That's absolutely fascinating. I always think it's wild when paranormal

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investigators because they have a different viewpoint on things, different tools,

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but they end up having experiences and that just always

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blows my mind. Man, wild wild stuff. Do you ever

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want to have an experience like that? Again?

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I would love it. I would prefer it to be.

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And when I say this, I'm not trying to say

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I'm the big bad dude, not fraim of nothing.

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I'd rather I really loved experience.

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It may be on my own or somebody that I

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know that has a similar mindset as me. That a way,

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there's not a fear of actually going and checking out

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what it could be. Now, it didn't scare me, uh yeah,

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but like the paranormal scares me sometimes too.

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But I use that as almost like a like an.

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A drilling rush, like an endorphin rush, instead of like

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a actually like I'm scared, I'm not gonna do what

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I'm gonna do right now, So I would I would

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love to.

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Get the opportunity to be in that predicament again. Now

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I did. I ain't gonna lie to you.

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I did try going back and try to recreate, you know,

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a similar proposal of what happened that night, but you know,

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no prevail. I couldn't get anything. The only thing I

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got was mosquito bites. You know what I'm saying, Like

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that's all I could fit that night. But it was, uh,

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it was exhilarating, man, to this night, to this day,

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I don't really tell people about it because I I

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don't know, like like I don't even tell people really

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about the you know, the unless their clients. Really we

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tell people about the paranormal stuff I do, but it's

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it's one of those things. It just doesn't come in conversation.

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But that night, man, I was hoping maybe you could

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tell me kind of like what you think on what

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I saw or what you think could have been, because

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I mean it was I'm gonna I'm gonna say maybe

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seven seven foot seven two foots seven seven, maybe seven foot.

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Two or something like that. It was broad.

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Now Here's the thing though, as I'm looking at it, man,

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and like, as I'm looking at the camera, I'm noticing

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like the this is where it gets kind of like eh,

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because as I'm looking at the legs.

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The legs look more massive.

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Then like then like not not more massive than the

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upper body, but I could tell all the legs on

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it was just this crazy like I don't know if

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it's just they were big or they had more fur.

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And then the upper body was you know it was

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it was like man, torso kind of and then as

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we get bigger. The reason that really got my attention, really,

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the reason I really thought it was something other than

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what I thought it was was because the head it

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was like it was it was fuller, like like the

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face was fuller, like like the hair was it was

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like it.

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Had hair all around its you know, a head.

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And I'm like, what human has hair all over its

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face and its head? You know, like it was more

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more full that it would be if it was a

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normal human.

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So I don't know, man, Right, So what I was

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gonna ask you is, did you notice what what shape

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of the head, Like did you notice a certain shape

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at all?

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Yeah?

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So, so like as we get here, so if I

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can remember, right, man, the top of the head like

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from like I guess if I was gonna point on

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a human from top of that, so like from like

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maybe like halfway to the like like halfway to the

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nose or maybe the full nose from there to like

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to there, from like the around the side, I would say.

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It was more thicker.

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And then when you got down to like the where

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the chin would be maybe I know.

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Like it was more of like a like a.

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Like it was more narrow, but like like from like

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the nose and all the way back was more like

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more full. And then and then it was almost like

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they had a uh, this is gonna sound silly, man.

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It was almost what people would call like like a

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a defined chin structure, like the you know, like the

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like you know, the cliche, the old drill sergeants. It's

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almost like they had that kind of chin, but the

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rest of it was full. I don't know, man Like,

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it sounds like a bull crap story, but I'm telling

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you dead on, so you know what I.

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Mean, especially especially the area where you were. I mean,

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you've got so much like big Foot activity alone. You've

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got the Ohio River right there, and you're just north

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of land between the lakes, and there's so much activity there.

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But the other thing is, so could you see ears

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or anything on the head at all?

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I couldn't, man Like, I said, I couldn't even The

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only reason I can describe what I'm describing now is because,

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like I said, once you take thermal image, you know

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it's mainly just a orange spot depending on your settings

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of the thermal image. But you can still see if

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something's sticker, if something's not thick, or something small, something's bigger.

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And another thing too.

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I noticed too that now I did go over there,

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and there was a couple I did go over there. There

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was a couple of trees where I thought it could

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have been the next day, and the trees that I

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noticed whenever or not the next to the next night,

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the trees that I noticed, like I had a buddy

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stand there, and I noticed that there is no way, bro,

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there's no way that a man could have done it,

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because he got like he got, he got side with

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some of the same trees, and I thrmbled him, and

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it was he wasn't as wide. And I went back

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and and I did that, and I turned a flashlight

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on and I put him aside a tree, and these

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trees we were pretty big, right, And I'm only thinking

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the reason he wasn't as wide is because the tree

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was blocking some of the body it didn't even look

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like the tree was blocking this body unless he was

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unless the thing was in front of it. But like

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there were so many trees, like you had to be

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behind one of the trees, and he was.

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This this thing was.

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Way wider than an actual you know, well not way

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wid but I'd say probably, I don't know, maybe a

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foot or two, maybe a foot and a half wider

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than an actual, you know, a man that a six

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foot two grown man, let's put that way.

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So so based on everything you're saying, it sounds to

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me like it whatever that was was not a human

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and really leans towards probably was a bigfoot. To me,

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I was asking certain questions to make sure you didn't

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have like a dog man there, but like it sounds

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more like a bigfoot type situation.

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It was. It was.

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It was crazy bro like, like it was one of

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those things like I'd love to be able to to

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know more about it, to be able to to know

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what to do, what to look for next time, know

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that if I need to. Is it something that you

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just like if you see it, do you run up,

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like try to catch this thing to get better visual?

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Do you stay back like you know what I mean? Bro,

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I don't want to get.

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On a live that's that's all. That's all up to you.

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Man.

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If there's some dudes that will do that, and that's

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that's cool. I mean, more power to them. It's what

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you can do at the time. Some people can't handle that.

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I don't know what I would do. Did you happen

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to get a photo or video of it with your thermal?

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I did?

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Actually, Oh my gosh, actually I might have hold on,

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let me see, let me go back.

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I might actually have a normal vision of it. Hold on,

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let me see.

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And uh, thanks to monsters at the least for asking

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that question in the comment. That's a good question.

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I actually let me let me go back. Let me

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make for sure.

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Good things always uh we always get this thing fills

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up really fast. I need to get a bigger, bigger

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memory cord because of the fact that we do paranormal hunt. So,

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but let me see if hold on.

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Were you getting any weird readings on other tools during

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that time?

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No, everything was.

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Everything was good like uh wow like no no em

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like yeah, like the EMF and everything was great like

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it wasn't okay, hold on.

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Let me see if I can.

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Yeah, go ahead, get to this.

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Oh my gosh, there's so many pictures of the actual.

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Bro like oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you do one of

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these things, and you have hours of audio to listen to.

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It's just gonna have been more prepared. I apologize.

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Let me let me look you like twenty more pictures

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and I don't see anything, all right, So okay, oh man,

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I got the worst possible picture that there is. Uh okay,

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I'll show you a picture, but like so like the

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pictures I had, they were like zoomed in and this

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picture here is and it sucks because it's covered.

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It's covered by.

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The by the actual the little dots on the side

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of a thermal thing. But let me show you so

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so ever, warn you, man, you can barely see anything.

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It sucks because I had a better one.

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But hold on, uh, I mean it's obviously something there, yeah.

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Like like so like the reason, but see, like you

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see the trees around it, the other trees it wasn't

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mark And so what that means is that one spot

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was particularly more hot than the other spots. Now that

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right there, I'd assumed in picture of it it was

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way way more defined. But man, other than that, man,

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that's about.

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Closer. I don't know if it'll have not even work,

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like the the actual device to your camera.

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Oh like that?

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Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, it's good.

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Yeah. Bro, that's all I got.

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But dude, I appreciate you sharing that.

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Thank yeah, man said, I appreciate you having me up. Man.

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If I can look through it more, I might have

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other pictures. But man, thanks for having me up.

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Dude.

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I'm gonost stay and listening to stuff. But man, God

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bless you. I hope you get good but I hope

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you get good stories. Bro.

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Thank you have a good one.

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Man, Thank you too. Man.

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Hi, how are you good?

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How are you?

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Hey?

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Awesome? Well you're you're from down Connecticut.

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Right, Yes, I am, And I went to high school

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in Norwich.

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Oh wow.

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Okay, so I'm like really close to Voluntown.

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Oh for sure. Okay, So you know what's going on

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in Valentown? Okay I do?

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Yeah?

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Wow.

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So what are yourselves?

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I've been Okay, So I've been here my whole life.

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And I was actually just talking about that with somebody

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in the comments.

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I have.

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I have some thoughts.

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My grandfather was a firefighter back in the sixties, and

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he told stories and he had stories of things that

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they call the chimps that had gotten loose. That that's

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how it was written and reported, and people got her

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and ever since the woman in Connecticut got her face injured,

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that was just like the official story.

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I've never heard about that.

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So a couple of maybe fifteen twenty years ago, someone

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a woman had a pet chimp and her face got

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injured and she was horribly dismembered. And that was in

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fact a chimp, and there were people, there were witnesses

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and all of that. So the laws for pets changed immediately.

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But before that, people there were stories, and that was

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just always the explanation of, uh, someone had a pet

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and it got loose.

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He had I.

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Remember there's a really clear story in my memory of

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being a little kid talking about monkey stuck in tree

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and whatever. It was bit a firefighter in the hand

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and he what he described is it looked somewhat between

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like a monkey and a bear, and it was small

473
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and the small size of like a baby bear.

474
00:26:07.720 --> 00:26:10.160
So you're saying this happened in the sixties.

475
00:26:11.279 --> 00:26:16.200
And sixties seventies, Yeah, because my mom was born in

476
00:26:16.240 --> 00:26:22.480
sixties six and he yeah, I would say probably the sixties,

477
00:26:22.519 --> 00:26:28.799
early seventies that happened. So I he loved to tell stories,

478
00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:32.279
loved and so he had lots of really good stories

479
00:26:33.440 --> 00:26:36.200
he talked about. I don't know if you know Wyndham,

480
00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:39.039
Connecticut is there's.

481
00:26:39.039 --> 00:26:49.759
Really old thread bills and there's really old stories of.

482
00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:51.920
British troops being scared away by sounds that they attribute

483
00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:56.920
to like frogs. But they thought that there were way

484
00:26:56.960 --> 00:27:01.440
more men in the area than were there. I've heard

485
00:27:01.440 --> 00:27:04.839
the frogs. I live in the area. It's it's not

486
00:27:04.920 --> 00:27:13.200
something you can confuse, like they just completely avoided the

487
00:27:13.240 --> 00:27:16.839
area and passed the town completely because something scared them off.

488
00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:20.759
And wow, when they went back and told their story,

489
00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:23.240
they talked about it being frogs. Now, there are huge

490
00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:25.920
frog monuments in the town. It's called the frog Bridge

491
00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:29.720
because that is the story that has stuck. But when

492
00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:32.039
I tell you that I live the area, I know

493
00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:34.599
the sound. I actually look forward to the sound of

494
00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:38.839
the frogs. It is not something that sounds like people chatter.

495
00:27:40.359 --> 00:27:47.839
Okay, that's interesting. Are there have there been other stories

496
00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:53.200
of things that are like bigfoot besides the chimps and

497
00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:55.759
the monkeys down in that area of Ontown that you've

498
00:27:55.799 --> 00:27:56.079
heard of?

499
00:27:57.799 --> 00:28:03.839
So because he's always been in the firefighter community. The

500
00:28:04.279 --> 00:28:08.839
official names are what goes through the channels, if that

501
00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:11.759
makes sense, and.

502
00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:12.799
The official coding.

503
00:28:13.599 --> 00:28:16.759
Yeah right, there's official coding and language back in the

504
00:28:16.839 --> 00:28:21.640
day that went through, so like they could look at

505
00:28:21.680 --> 00:28:24.640
each other and know that it wasn't a chimp or

506
00:28:24.680 --> 00:28:31.440
a monkey, but on written paper, that's what was written.

507
00:28:31.599 --> 00:28:33.119
If that If that makes.

508
00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:35.759
Sense, that's okay. Yeah, no, it makes sense. I've heard

509
00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:39.079
of stuff happen like that, so you think, yeah, there's

510
00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:41.759
probably other stuff going on in the area. It was

511
00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:45.720
just referred to a certain way by people like firefighters,

512
00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:47.279
et cetera, is what I'm hearing.

513
00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:49.680
Yeah, because they were the ones that were getting called.

514
00:28:50.200 --> 00:28:52.559
And when I tell you that, like I've heard the

515
00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:56.799
stories of like from him being like something was in

516
00:28:56.839 --> 00:29:00.279
the woods, it was behind the house. We wrote it

517
00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:02.200
down as a bear. It was not a bear, but

518
00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:04.839
we scared away a bear. And I was like, okay, cool, cool, cool,

519
00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:07.519
cool cool cool. Like I live really close to Mohegan

520
00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:13.000
Sun the casinos. Yeah, so this land is old, like

521
00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:20.480
old old, and there are things here that I.

522
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:20.119
Can't explain.

523
00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:24.680
That I have heard that I have seen nothing tall

524
00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:26.920
and furry wish, I wish on my life.

525
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:27.960
I've heard the stories.

526
00:29:28.839 --> 00:29:33.440
I know of someone who like literally makes cutouts, like

527
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:35.440
like that's the whole thing he does in Lebanon, that

528
00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:38.200
like he makes art.

529
00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:39.559
I don't know if he's.

530
00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:43.680
Seen, would love to talk to him.

531
00:29:43.759 --> 00:29:47.319
But I've heard the official stories.

532
00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:51.559
And because I was raised by a firefighter, I now

533
00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:53.920
know enough to read between the lines, and have heard

534
00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:55.759
the stories to read between the lines. I now know

535
00:29:55.799 --> 00:29:58.000
what to look for when I'm reading it, like I'm

536
00:29:58.000 --> 00:29:59.559
going to school to become an empty.

537
00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:01.720
And firefighter, right right, Okay, gotcha?

538
00:30:01.799 --> 00:30:02.319
So now I know.

539
00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:07.480
I know how it's written one way to say one thing,

540
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:08.920
but it doesn't mean one thing.

541
00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:14.000
So then this must be really interesting for you living

542
00:30:14.039 --> 00:30:18.799
through this and watching stuff happen. Oh yeah, and how

543
00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:24.480
different officials are reacting to it, and oh, we be

544
00:30:24.559 --> 00:30:25.319
very interesting.

545
00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:31.880
I've always known that things were said one way and

546
00:30:31.920 --> 00:30:35.960
done another, unfortunately, because I was born that way and

547
00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:42.119
watched it happen. So but watching it on a giant

548
00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:43.319
scale is nuts.

549
00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:46.119
Oh yeah, it's a different story now.

550
00:30:46.039 --> 00:30:52.480
Because gigantic scale is crazy. Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, because.

551
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:55.519
We're not we're not talking like small scale politics anywhere.

552
00:30:55.559 --> 00:31:00.880
We're talking like big world scale, like scary, big time stuff.

553
00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:02.160
Yeah.

554
00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:05.680
I learned that personally when I broke the Ohio stuff

555
00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:09.599
in really twenty twenty six this year and things got

556
00:31:09.640 --> 00:31:11.599
really big, really quick, and I.

557
00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:14.279
Was like, oh, my goodness, who came and told you

558
00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:14.559
not to?

559
00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:17.799
And who came and like Britain didn't, like, yeah, oh

560
00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:19.720
trust me, I've been there, done that, trust.

561
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:25.160
Me, thankfully, thankfully that it is important. Oh you're lucky,

562
00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:31.519
but I I yeah, it's been a weird year, let's see,

563
00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:38.440
because it went from that into being diagnosed with cancer

564
00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:40.960
and then I've been dealing with cancer ever since, so

565
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:42.920
very very strange stuff.

566
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:48.160
Oh so then when I tell you I don't know,

567
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:55.759
first off, my deepest apologies, yep, thank you, But you

568
00:31:55.799 --> 00:31:59.799
were in a critical, perfect moment situated in your life right.

569
00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:03.720
Now to just kind of say f it and tell

570
00:32:03.720 --> 00:32:04.160
the truth.

571
00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:04.720
Do it?

572
00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:06.119
Who cares?

573
00:32:06.200 --> 00:32:06.640
I get it?

574
00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:07.359
I get it.

575
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:10.839
No, I've never I've never not done that.

576
00:32:11.519 --> 00:32:11.759
You know.

577
00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:13.839
We appreciate that, we know.

578
00:32:14.599 --> 00:32:19.839
Yeah, so I appreciate that something you said earlier, So

579
00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:24.119
you said that your your grandfather actually would tell you

580
00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:27.440
stories about there we're saying it's a bear, but what

581
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:30.000
we saw was not a bear back back there.

582
00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:32.279
Oh yeah, and the thing, the monkey in the tree,

583
00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:33.680
was not a monkey in a tree.

584
00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:39.559
Mm man, that's Wild's wild.

585
00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:40.920
Because I've heard about it what I'm talking about.

586
00:32:41.039 --> 00:32:45.960
He talks about it because it's a secondhand description. He

587
00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:49.920
talks about it being small, So I assume infant can

588
00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:52.400
climb high up into the tree, got up into a tree.

589
00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:54.319
Someone assumed it was a pet monkey and called the

590
00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:58.359
fire department. So fire department shows up and somebody gets

591
00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:03.039
up there and it bites a firefighter. So they get down,

592
00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:04.680
and now they've got to try and catch this thing

593
00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:12.000
right exactly. So like, while reading through what I'm reading,

594
00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:14.799
I read the part where they're like, well, it was

595
00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:17.400
a monkey, so it had a tail. But they didn't

596
00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:18.839
say it had a tail. They were like, it was

597
00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:22.839
a monkey, so it had a tail, right exactly, which

598
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:26.559
is very different, which is very very very different, and

599
00:33:26.640 --> 00:33:29.079
saying like, oh we saw its tail. Nope, it was

600
00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:31.839
a monkey, so it had a tail, Like is very different.

601
00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:41.319
Terminology speaking codedly to and the he doesn't finish the story.

602
00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:43.759
I don't know how they got it down. I don't

603
00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:47.359
know what happened to it, oh man, really really because

604
00:33:47.400 --> 00:33:50.920
and that has always been the like, so what happened next?

605
00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:54.759
And he was like, they took care of it. But

606
00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:55.920
I don't know what that means.

607
00:33:55.680 --> 00:34:02.880
Either is he is he still with us or.

608
00:34:03.279 --> 00:34:05.359
Or not he passed at the end of twenty twenty.

609
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:09.119
I had I ended up having to have brain.

610
00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:11.920
Surgery because of all of our.

611
00:34:11.840 --> 00:34:16.480
Special genetic stuff that comes down from being native and

612
00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:19.360
Nordic and just all of the cool stuff my brain

613
00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:22.679
to ride to escape and grow down into my spine

614
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:24.679
so I get to keep the hole in my head

615
00:34:25.519 --> 00:34:33.920
forever's And he ended up falling and my brain surgeon

616
00:34:33.960 --> 00:34:38.440
saved his life. And that during Christmas he had a

617
00:34:38.440 --> 00:34:40.079
heart attack and two days later he was gone.

618
00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:47.039
I'm so sorry to hear that. I'm glad he was

619
00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:52.199
to get through. Superhero. Yeah, he was my super Man.

620
00:34:54.880 --> 00:34:58.639
He must have been such a guy, you know for

621
00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:01.559
sharing that rude. Yeah.

622
00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:04.000
He was a master carpenter. He spent so much time

623
00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:06.119
in the woods. He would like he cut down trees.

624
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:08.679
He was a firefighter. He spent the time in the woods.

625
00:35:08.679 --> 00:35:11.239
He was a hunter. So, like I heard all of

626
00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:14.360
his stories. I was his fishing buddy. I was the

627
00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:17.039
person that got to hear all of them, and I

628
00:35:17.079 --> 00:35:19.039
believed him that no one else was going to believe,

629
00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:20.000
you know, because I was his.

630
00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:21.960
Little girl, right exactly.

631
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:28.079
So he the stuff that he has seen, and he like,

632
00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:29.599
I could fill a book.

633
00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:30.639
I should fill a book.

634
00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:37.599
You should, yeah, because you're really the the last person

635
00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:42.800
that that gets to hold that, you know. And and yeah,

636
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:45.039
that might be something to look into doing. That would

637
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:46.800
be that would be a cool, cool way.

638
00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:47.400
To honor him.

639
00:35:48.519 --> 00:35:52.119
Yeah, might Yeah. But I appreciate you coming up and

640
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:57.519
and thank you for sharing that there is more to

641
00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:02.199
this area than is being reported based on the three

642
00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:04.159
and it's incredible to hear about.

643
00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:07.280
Thank you so much, of course, and I can't wait

644
00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:07.920
to keep watching.

645
00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:14.760
All right, thank you so much. Bye. Hey, Yeddi Gang,

646
00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:15.119
how are you?

647
00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:19.320
Oh my, I'm actually talking to you. I've messaged you

648
00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:24.840
in the past. I never got to fully tell my story.

649
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:25.880
That's really funny.

650
00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:27.840
I'm just parking my car right now, so I'm not

651
00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:33.639
all right, Yeah, that's perfectly fine. I actually so, I

652
00:36:33.639 --> 00:36:37.519
work a coal mine up in the north of Chetwynd, BC,

653
00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:41.800
and uh, I have been listening to your podcast for

654
00:36:41.960 --> 00:36:44.320
like two years. I've been a big fan, and I

655
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:47.119
hope you're healthy. I know I've heard about your cancer,

656
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:49.800
and I really hope you're going doing well.

657
00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:51.719
We're gonna get surreal to talk to.

658
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:53.679
But here my story.

659
00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:57.440
Okay, So I'm gonna tell you about my first experience

660
00:36:57.440 --> 00:36:59.239
when I was really young, and then about my most

661
00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:04.679
recent one. My first one, I was in grade four

662
00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:08.840
and I was living in a tiny village called Beaver

663
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:12.719
Creek or Beaver Creek, Yukon on the Alaska border on

664
00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:16.639
the Canada side, and we moved to this small village.

665
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:20.239
My dad was working for the hamlet or not the

666
00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:22.000
hamlet at the band office, I guess, because there was

667
00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:27.079
a native a native community, and our first week in town,

668
00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:30.320
they had a huge ceremony. They dressed us in a

669
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:35.840
traditional clothes and everything, and yeah, we did a dance.

670
00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:38.199
They gave us gifts, and they welcomed us to the community.

671
00:37:38.199 --> 00:37:41.599
Because very small community, they're gonna, you know, it's exciting

672
00:37:41.599 --> 00:37:44.760
to see any people. And uh, I remember at the

673
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:48.719
end of that ceremony, they pulled my mother aside and

674
00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:51.880
they told me, my father and my older brother, you know,

675
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:55.000
like to go away. And when we got home, my

676
00:37:55.079 --> 00:37:58.079
mom said, you're not gonna believe what they told me,

677
00:37:58.360 --> 00:38:01.679
And we're like, like what they said that. They were

678
00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:05.719
just pretty much warning me that Bigfoot is oh sasquatch,

679
00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:11.039
I call him whatever, and that he's very very much

680
00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:14.840
in the area, and that like the all the different things,

681
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:18.679
like there's the smell or like you'll hear or get

682
00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:21.440
rocks and sticks thrown at you, but you need to

683
00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:23.599
be aware because it was that town was very much

684
00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:25.760
in the bush. Like for me to get to my school,

685
00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:29.480
my school was a two room Like I'm only thirty

686
00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:31.039
two and I could say I went into a two

687
00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:33.800
room schoolhouse and the school looked like a house had

688
00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:37.960
two bedrooms. Each bedroom one was kindergarten to grade three

689
00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:39.840
and the other one was grade four to grade twelve,

690
00:38:40.599 --> 00:38:42.880
and the kitchen was the office in the basement was

691
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:47.840
the the like the library. Anyways, uh So they warned her,

692
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:49.639
They're like, hey, just watch out, like if you hear,

693
00:38:49.719 --> 00:38:53.000
if you smell like an ammonia skunky kind of smell,

694
00:38:55.079 --> 00:38:57.400
that's a warning, and like if you get rocks or

695
00:38:57.400 --> 00:38:59.400
things thrown at you, just keep your eyes open. They're

696
00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:02.559
like they are undred percent here. And we came from

697
00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:04.800
living in Ontario at the time, so we're like this

698
00:39:04.880 --> 00:39:07.239
is crazy, right, Like we were like what do we

699
00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:11.119
believe it? And so as a kid in grade four,

700
00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:14.840
I'm like, there's bigfoot out there. I'm like on high alert.

701
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:19.320
Me and my older brother and I remember walking home

702
00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:21.519
from school and around like three in the afternoon, it'd

703
00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:24.079
be pitch black because up there so north that the

704
00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:27.599
sunset set so early in the wintertime that we would

705
00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:30.719
be walking through the woods to get to the other

706
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:32.960
side where our trailer was that we were staying in,

707
00:39:33.440 --> 00:39:36.000
and you'd hear a crack in the woods or something

708
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:38.800
and we'd looked Bigfoot and we'd just start running crying

709
00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:43.400
all the way home. And the neat thing was this

710
00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:45.480
is the part that like I've never heard anyone say

711
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:48.679
this before, was so our neighbor, her name was Agnes.

712
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:53.079
She was like our Northern Ashonee language teacher for the school.

713
00:39:55.320 --> 00:39:57.480
She brought us over because they were skinning a moose

714
00:39:57.519 --> 00:39:59.559
that day, and I got to go in her house

715
00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:03.159
for the first time, and she was pointing out pictures

716
00:40:03.199 --> 00:40:05.840
of her son and her son her and her husband

717
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:09.960
were both Native, but her son was a lighter skinned

718
00:40:10.119 --> 00:40:13.920
and he was like six foot six, huge, really tall guy.

719
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:17.800
And she told me dead face, like straight to my face.

720
00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:21.440
And to my mother, she's like, yeah, he didn't live

721
00:40:21.559 --> 00:40:23.960
very long. He only lived till about thirty six years old.

722
00:40:24.519 --> 00:40:28.280
But I was picking berries when I was about nineteen

723
00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:33.280
years old, and I smelled. I smelled, uh sasquatch And

724
00:40:33.320 --> 00:40:35.400
she's like, I just all I remember was passing out

725
00:40:35.440 --> 00:40:38.360
and waking up with my my dress hiked up, and

726
00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:42.360
she said that her son, who was that Bigfoot? Now

727
00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:45.719
I take that, you know, like who knows if bigfoot

728
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:50.400
can actually reproduce with humans? But that was a story

729
00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:52.320
just told to me as a child, and I that

730
00:40:52.360 --> 00:40:54.920
always blew my mind. That's a big statement to say,

731
00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:58.199
you know. And then so that's always stuck with me.

732
00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:00.920
I've told that story for years to my friend's like,

733
00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:03.360
and that's I've always had big Foot in my heart.

734
00:41:03.360 --> 00:41:07.679
I've always looked well camping and stuff too. I messaged

735
00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:11.199
you about a month ago on here and you replied,

736
00:41:11.280 --> 00:41:13.960
but life has just been so busy. I never got

737
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:14.719
to get back to you.

738
00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:16.559
And uh.

739
00:41:18.079 --> 00:41:20.440
This it really freaked me out. It was a sighting,

740
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:23.559
but it was it was very quick, and like I swear,

741
00:41:24.239 --> 00:41:25.840
I went. I told my mother and I told my

742
00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:28.440
wife and my mother or my wife believed me, but

743
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:31.119
my mother probably thought I was a little loopy. So

744
00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:33.280
I was driving home. It's a four and a half

745
00:41:33.320 --> 00:41:35.679
hour drive. I do shift work seven on, seven off,

746
00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:37.960
and I was driving four and a half hours home

747
00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:42.000
after a night shift, and I was in You can

748
00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:43.559
look this up for your maps. I know you do

749
00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:47.360
mostly America. But there's a small town called McLennan, Alberta,

750
00:41:48.320 --> 00:41:55.400
And to the turnoff for the Winogamy Provincial Park, it's

751
00:41:55.480 --> 00:41:58.880
maybe five kilometers like it's not. It's like a ten

752
00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:04.719
minute drive right halfway between the town and that turn

753
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:08.840
off to get to Woodnogamy down the highway. I was

754
00:42:08.840 --> 00:42:13.599
just driving in my little car and to the right

755
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:16.159
of me is flat grass and then there's railroad track

756
00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:20.239
following the highway and then trees behind the railroad. Okay,

757
00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:23.800
and I'm cruising. I'm cruising. I'm not going very fast,

758
00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:27.119
but every like eighty kilometers an hour. And then out

759
00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:30.920
of my right side I see something standing right before

760
00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:33.920
the track, so on the grass side, and there's telephone

761
00:42:33.920 --> 00:42:40.800
poles like you know along the tracks. And it still

762
00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:44.639
gets me. I swear to God, So I saw him

763
00:42:44.679 --> 00:42:50.719
take four four full steps, so his arms it looked

764
00:42:50.719 --> 00:42:53.599
like he was slightly looking down. His arms were swaying.

765
00:42:54.559 --> 00:42:57.400
And the only reason where I was there was no houses,

766
00:42:57.519 --> 00:42:59.760
so wouldn't have been a person and cuts to the

767
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:01.800
tele pole. I could tell it he was at least

768
00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:04.760
seven and a half eight feet tall and just from

769
00:43:04.840 --> 00:43:08.079
the like the like the size of his shoulders and

770
00:43:08.239 --> 00:43:14.079
arms and legs. And he was like, when they're so

771
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:18.239
so dark brown, they almost look black, like that dark chi,

772
00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:21.800
you know, like really dark brown. Because I have like

773
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:23.559
a light bar on my on my car, so I

774
00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:25.320
did light up the ditch really well so I could

775
00:43:25.360 --> 00:43:28.559
see the color of the fur. It was a very darker,

776
00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:32.159
like a yeah, dark dark dark brown almost looks black.

777
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:35.519
And yeah, So I saw the four steps, and my

778
00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:37.639
brain I was like, did I just see what I

779
00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:40.559
think I just saw. I'm like, there's no way slam

780
00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:42.880
my brakes on. There's nobody on the road. I put

781
00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:47.000
my car in reverse and rolled down my windows. Hearts racing.

782
00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:51.320
So I slammed my car in reverse to where that

783
00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:54.480
one pole was where he was just walking on, and

784
00:43:55.119 --> 00:43:58.519
all I hear is the trees and everything on that

785
00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:02.480
side crashing like breaking down and I could I saw

786
00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:05.480
I could see the shadow going into the into the trees,

787
00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:07.639
and I'm like, in my head, I'm like, why about

788
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:09.360
backing up? What if I just like backed up and

789
00:44:09.400 --> 00:44:10.039
his face.

790
00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:11.360
Was right in the window right.

791
00:44:12.280 --> 00:44:14.960
But what messed me is because you know how dogs

792
00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:20.639
will act weird when UH sometimes around them out. So

793
00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:24.159
when I backed up, there was a long driveway down

794
00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:27.440
to a farm. I'd probably say a kilometer long driveway.

795
00:44:27.800 --> 00:44:31.079
There was a white looking pitbull with like beige spots

796
00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:34.280
now right in front of my car and just pointed

797
00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:36.599
like staring at the woods where I was just looking.

798
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:39.239
I physically had a backup and drive around this dog.

799
00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:41.639
It wouldn't I would try to call it, it wouldn't move.

800
00:44:41.679 --> 00:44:44.119
It was just staring at that where. So it really

801
00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:46.880
confirmed I saw what I saw was that dog looking

802
00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:48.920
where I was just looking. And I was like, hey,

803
00:44:48.960 --> 00:44:53.159
I'm not not seeing something, but yeah, between the huge head,

804
00:44:53.239 --> 00:44:56.039
the wide neck, the shoulders and arms, I was on

805
00:44:56.400 --> 00:44:58.960
I was. I got home so fast and it was

806
00:44:59.000 --> 00:44:59.760
two in the morning.

807
00:44:59.800 --> 00:45:01.920
I my wife, I woke up the whole house telling

808
00:45:02.239 --> 00:45:04.280
I was like, you wouldn't believe what I just saw.

809
00:45:04.599 --> 00:45:06.480
I'm like you know, I'm not going to speak out

810
00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:09.400
of my rear r and uh about Like I wouldn't

811
00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:11.039
just come home and just say this. I'm like, this

812
00:45:11.199 --> 00:45:16.039
is what I saw at I didn't see eyes or anything.

813
00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:17.280
I just saw the back of it, right.

814
00:45:18.199 --> 00:45:20.519
I didn't even think, like I've heard, I've talked to

815
00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:24.440
like I'm a hunter. I've talked to a few wildlife

816
00:45:24.440 --> 00:45:27.440
guys in the area because I live about forty five

817
00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:31.320
minutes from that spot, and they they're like, oh, Bigfoot's

818
00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:33.440
not real. Bigfoot's not real. But when you talk to

819
00:45:33.480 --> 00:45:36.239
some of the locals, especially the reserve near my house,

820
00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:39.960
grip beside me, I gotta.

821
00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:41.280
Get out of his way.

822
00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:45.199
They say that that there's there's been few sightings over

823
00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:49.280
the years, so they're not super populated, but there's been.

824
00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:53.000
You know, a few over the years. So did I

825
00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:53.719
just get lucky?

826
00:45:53.880 --> 00:45:55.960
It opened my eyes so much now now that I'm

827
00:45:56.000 --> 00:46:00.679
in BC, I'm in British Columbia. Now that the forest there,

828
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:02.719
like the mountains that are all around me and everything,

829
00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:05.079
I'm like, Okay, a whole new area for me to

830
00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:08.880
camp at and look at. And we went camping last

831
00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:11.559
weekend and I'm like looking for stuff in my wife

832
00:46:11.679 --> 00:46:13.599
like don't don't like, I don't want nothing shack in

833
00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:14.159
my camper.

834
00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:20.239
Yeah, are you down by like chiliwac and all that

835
00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:22.000
all that area?

836
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:26.679
Sorry Chetwind Sorry so uh Chetwynd, British Columbia. So you

837
00:46:26.719 --> 00:46:30.519
go after Dawson Creek goes down to Chetwynd and it's

838
00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:33.360
known there too, like for fossils and dinosaurs. There's a

839
00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:37.920
lake where it has a t Rex footprints fossilized in uh,

840
00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:40.320
into the rocks near a lake and you can like

841
00:46:40.599 --> 00:46:43.079
put your footprints in. So there's a lot of old

842
00:46:43.199 --> 00:46:47.360
natural history there and thick, thick forest and grizzly bears

843
00:46:47.360 --> 00:46:52.079
and cougars so snow capped mountains. So it's definitely a

844
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:56.440
good spot for them to hide and get around them.

845
00:46:56.599 --> 00:46:59.480
Hold on one minute, there is I need to look

846
00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:03.119
at my map of British Columbia because I don't have

847
00:47:03.119 --> 00:47:08.840
it memorized. Ship. There's like an area that keeps coming

848
00:47:08.920 --> 00:47:12.840
up which is like Burns Lake and Fraser Lake area. Yeah,

849
00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:17.079
and it's it's like it's almost like the center of

850
00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:20.480
British Columbia. But that area comes up with a lot

851
00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:24.800
of First Nation stuff that is wild, especially on this platform.

852
00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:27.000
I've talked to a lot of people from that area,

853
00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:30.760
so that might be something to keep in mind. But man,

854
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:35.239
that's it's so cool to talk to you. So did

855
00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:37.719
when you guys lived in the Yukon territories? Did you

856
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:40.880
have any encounters up there or was that one you

857
00:47:41.039 --> 00:47:43.599
had the first real encounter that you That.

858
00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:45.800
Was my first one up there. It was just like

859
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:49.039
my introduction of learning about him. And then that crazy

860
00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:51.920
story about Agnes telling us that her son was at

861
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:56.639
Bigfoot and would they like there was some other cool like.

862
00:47:56.760 --> 00:47:57.159
Uh.

863
00:47:57.320 --> 00:48:00.920
So, they were doing construction on the Alaska Highway and

864
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:07.360
they dug up for putting drainage underneath the road, and

865
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:09.480
I guess when they were building a new section of

866
00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:12.000
the road today for a pole away, they dug up

867
00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:15.679
part of a native burial ground that wasn't wasn't like

868
00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:18.440
there was nothing to tell you that it was there, right,

869
00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:22.480
And I remember, you don't hear of earthquakes in the

870
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:24.480
Yukon or Alaska or anywhere up there.

871
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:25.400
It's not a common thing.

872
00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:28.559
But I remember there was a drop in center where

873
00:48:28.639 --> 00:48:30.400
kids would go after school to play games, and I

874
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:34.079
remember turning up the volume for the speaker system, and

875
00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:36.960
all of a sudden, the whole building started shaking and

876
00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:40.119
we go outside. The telephone poles are going like this,

877
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:44.760
and it was the first ever earthquake I've ever been

878
00:48:44.800 --> 00:48:48.559
in and the only one. And I go home and

879
00:48:49.159 --> 00:48:52.440
parents are freaking out. And here a few days later

880
00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:56.079
that the elders in that community were like, yeah, an

881
00:48:56.159 --> 00:48:59.639
old native burial ground like burial ground. A medicine man's

882
00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:03.400
body got dug up and they exposed his bones and stuff,

883
00:49:03.760 --> 00:49:05.960
and we got hit for about a week with lightning

884
00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:08.880
and crazy as wind storms and we were dealing with flooding.

885
00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:12.519
So the they found the family in the community that

886
00:49:12.679 --> 00:49:16.880
was like the that was the ancestor of them, and

887
00:49:16.960 --> 00:49:19.559
they had to spend thousands of dollars. They did a

888
00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:23.920
whole new burial and then they're in their uh, in

889
00:49:23.960 --> 00:49:26.320
their culture, you had to give any for everyone in

890
00:49:26.360 --> 00:49:28.960
the community a gift that had to do with their home,

891
00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:34.679
like blankets and like you know, like home goods. So

892
00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:38.559
they had to spend thousands of dollars. They gifted everyone

893
00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:42.119
in the community things, a huge feast, they did a ceremony,

894
00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:45.159
and as soon as that man, that medicine man was

895
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:48.400
back in the ground. Life went back to normal. There

896
00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:53.400
is no more crazy weather, sunshine, So like, wow, I've

897
00:49:53.559 --> 00:49:57.639
experienced a few things over the years.

898
00:49:57.679 --> 00:49:58.519
The world is and what.

899
00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:03.880
Isn't just uh simple, right, Yeah, So I.

900
00:50:03.880 --> 00:50:07.360
Learned a lot. There's a gas station, restaurant. Shit, what

901
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:10.280
you do? Like you get me through the day? Will

902
00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:12.320
I'm at work, I operate them giant haul trucks.

903
00:50:12.360 --> 00:50:12.840
You see.

904
00:50:13.480 --> 00:50:16.239
I let you a load with coy and everything, and uh,

905
00:50:16.559 --> 00:50:19.280
we're all out our phones, so I use my Samsung

906
00:50:19.320 --> 00:50:22.719
Watch and I connect your podcast and I listen at

907
00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:24.960
least three or four of them. I started at the beginning,

908
00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:26.679
but then sometimes I'll sneak up to the recent ones.

909
00:50:26.719 --> 00:50:30.920
So I'm trying to listen to them all every day.

910
00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:34.559
So it's gonna take forever to catch us well. I

911
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:37.320
used to I do five a week now, so I

912
00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:42.440
cut back a little bit. But it's it's fun. But man,

913
00:50:42.519 --> 00:50:44.159
thank you so much for coming up. I'm glad we

914
00:50:44.159 --> 00:50:47.960
were able to finally connect messages from a month ago.

915
00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:50.960
I'm still working through because it was so crazy, but

916
00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:54.960
I appreciate you coming up and sharing about an area.

917
00:50:55.239 --> 00:50:57.920
But thank you, man. I hope you can hang around

918
00:50:57.960 --> 00:50:58.480
for a bit.

919
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:02.719
I will and is this gonna be on a podcast?

920
00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:04.239
So you get to listen to myself one day?

921
00:51:05.280 --> 00:51:06.320
Yeah, absolutely, never.

922
00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:08.519
Wonderful things days chatting with you?

923
00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:08.840
You too?

924
00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:10.199
You too?

925
00:51:11.440 --> 00:51:13.199
Oh that was really nice. Hey Davis, how are you

926
00:51:13.719 --> 00:51:14.119
doing good?

927
00:51:14.119 --> 00:51:15.519
How are you? Hey?

928
00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:16.159
You doing good?

929
00:51:16.199 --> 00:51:16.400
Man?

930
00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:18.599
Feel free to share what's going on. Man.

931
00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:21.159
So I just make this short and sweet.

932
00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:26.679
But so I'm from central Kentucky in the Hardin County area,

933
00:51:26.679 --> 00:51:31.320
about an hour south of Louisville. And uh so this

934
00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:35.039
happened when I was a probably ten years old eleven

935
00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:37.719
years old. So I grew up in a sub division

936
00:51:39.159 --> 00:51:43.639
about two or three miles east of Etown and sub

937
00:51:43.679 --> 00:51:45.679
division it was a It was a cool sub division

938
00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:48.199
growing up as a kid because it was actually I

939
00:51:48.280 --> 00:51:49.760
had a lot of history on It was an old

940
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:52.079
family farm that was back in the behind me. But

941
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:55.880
there was a lot of woods, like natural woods. When

942
00:51:55.880 --> 00:51:58.199
we were kids, we would go back here and mushroom

943
00:51:58.280 --> 00:52:00.960
hunt and root dig and stuff like that. But uh

944
00:52:01.559 --> 00:52:05.239
uh so, we me and my cousin one day we

945
00:52:05.239 --> 00:52:07.199
were walking out in the woods.

946
00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:07.880
It was snowing.

947
00:52:08.800 --> 00:52:11.920
We had I think it was Christmas break, and my

948
00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:15.480
cousin had come down from Michigan, and uh, we were

949
00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:17.440
just kind of walking in the back back and behind

950
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:19.320
the house. We were probably maybe I don't know, one

951
00:52:19.400 --> 00:52:21.800
hundred and fifty two hundred yards behind the house into

952
00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:25.360
the woods, and we came across tracks in the snow.

953
00:52:26.400 --> 00:52:29.119
And I tell this to a lot of people and

954
00:52:29.119 --> 00:52:31.920
and they're like, oh, you're full of crap. And I'm like, okay, Well,

955
00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:35.159
so I call my cousin, right and I tell him.

956
00:52:35.159 --> 00:52:36.760
I'm like, hey, man, tell him about the time that

957
00:52:36.760 --> 00:52:39.599
we were in the woods behind the old house. And

958
00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:41.840
he's like, oh, yeah, the tracks in the snow, and

959
00:52:41.840 --> 00:52:43.639
blah blah blah blah blah. And people like they got

960
00:52:43.639 --> 00:52:46.000
that stone look on their face, like okay, dude, you're

961
00:52:46.039 --> 00:52:49.119
telling the truth, you know. But uh uh we never

962
00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:52.159
did see it. But so we're ten years old, eleven

963
00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:55.239
somewhere around that age, right when you're getting into middle

964
00:52:55.280 --> 00:52:59.599
school there, and uh so we're exploring, you know, in

965
00:52:59.639 --> 00:53:01.880
the woods snow and having a good time. We find

966
00:53:01.920 --> 00:53:04.599
that and we're like, what the heck? So these tracks

967
00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:07.280
was a human foot?

968
00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:08.519
Uh.

969
00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:11.519
The best I can describe it, I'm in my mid

970
00:53:11.559 --> 00:53:15.239
thirties now, but the best I could describe it was

971
00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:20.760
like a size of like twenty shoot. Uh So we're

972
00:53:20.840 --> 00:53:23.119
following it and I'm like, this is so strange, and

973
00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:27.480
it was almost like we were like, uh like lulld uh.

974
00:53:27.719 --> 00:53:30.800
That's the best way to describe. It's like we didn't say, oh,

975
00:53:30.920 --> 00:53:32.679
go get a camera or anything like that. And this

976
00:53:32.760 --> 00:53:36.000
is the time before you know, smartphones were things, so

977
00:53:36.400 --> 00:53:40.119
you know, nobody was or very few people had technology

978
00:53:40.159 --> 00:53:43.000
attached to their hip, you know, cameras and whatnot such.

979
00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:45.719
But so we're.

980
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:48.480
Falling it along and we've made it pretty far into

981
00:53:48.480 --> 00:53:52.079
the woods at this point, and uh so we get

982
00:53:52.119 --> 00:53:55.440
to a certain point and we start finding like blood

983
00:53:55.519 --> 00:53:59.280
droplets beside the foot track, like it had carried something

984
00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:01.239
with it, like it killed maybe I don't know, it

985
00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:04.760
was something very small because there was no drag tracks

986
00:54:04.840 --> 00:54:05.199
or anything.

987
00:54:05.199 --> 00:54:08.440
It was just like blood droplets. So we get going.

988
00:54:08.480 --> 00:54:10.760
We get going, and we're not harn We got like

989
00:54:10.800 --> 00:54:13.199
a maybe a pocket knife or something on us, you know,

990
00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:16.360
and uh uh so we we get going. We fall

991
00:54:16.400 --> 00:54:20.639
along and then uh we get to like a couple

992
00:54:20.719 --> 00:54:23.800
of like green trees. I don't know how to describe it,

993
00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:26.679
but they were like pretty green for the wintertime. Like

994
00:54:26.719 --> 00:54:31.440
a shrub almost uh and whatever it was was behind

995
00:54:31.480 --> 00:54:35.519
the shrub and it started shaking the shrub and I

996
00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:39.840
mean it was like uncontrollably shaken and uh so we

997
00:54:39.960 --> 00:54:40.519
freaked out.

998
00:54:40.519 --> 00:54:41.199
We bugged out.

999
00:54:41.239 --> 00:54:43.079
We took off and I mean we I don't know,

1000
00:54:43.119 --> 00:54:45.519
it seemed like we were pretty far into the woods,

1001
00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:47.679
but we got to my back door then like a

1002
00:54:47.760 --> 00:54:51.280
minute man, and uh that that's that's my story. That's

1003
00:54:51.320 --> 00:54:53.519
the only encounter I've I've ever had.

1004
00:54:54.119 --> 00:54:54.559
Uh.

1005
00:54:54.679 --> 00:54:56.480
Like I said in the comments, I'll keep it short

1006
00:54:56.519 --> 00:54:59.639
and sweet, but uh it was definitely uh uh, it

1007
00:54:59.639 --> 00:55:03.280
was defin definitely weird and uh uh growing up, I

1008
00:55:03.599 --> 00:55:08.119
moved out of that that neighborhood. Uh in twenty nineteen,

1009
00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:10.639
i'd stole my my dad's house after we had passed

1010
00:55:11.440 --> 00:55:12.519
and uh uh but.

1011
00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:14.800
I was rendered the same woods for years.

1012
00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:19.039
After that and uh after that encounter and uh uh

1013
00:55:19.599 --> 00:55:22.679
no other encounters. But you know, the best I could

1014
00:55:22.679 --> 00:55:26.199
describe it, it's like where we live at. It's strange

1015
00:55:26.239 --> 00:55:30.039
because we're in central Kentucky, but we see a lot

1016
00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:33.880
of bear sightings and stuff in that area. Uh there

1017
00:55:33.960 --> 00:55:35.719
was a lot of black bears and as a kid,

1018
00:55:35.800 --> 00:55:39.119
I remember riding my bicycle and there was like an

1019
00:55:39.159 --> 00:55:41.719
old tobacco barn in the back part of our neighborhood.

1020
00:55:42.360 --> 00:55:42.559
Uh.

1021
00:55:42.840 --> 00:55:44.039
Like it's, like I said, the best way I can

1022
00:55:44.079 --> 00:55:46.400
describe it, it was, you know, like a nineties kid grow up.

1023
00:55:46.440 --> 00:55:49.519
You grew up like in a subdivided neighborhood. But there

1024
00:55:49.559 --> 00:55:51.480
was that you could tell the old remnants of a farm.

1025
00:55:51.559 --> 00:55:51.719
You know.

1026
00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:55.440
The region I'm in a tobacco growing in the nineties

1027
00:55:55.440 --> 00:55:57.599
and eighties and before that was a big, big crop.

1028
00:55:58.119 --> 00:56:01.440
But we used to ride our bikes this old old tobacco.

1029
00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:04.039
Barn and uh that was like an old well there

1030
00:56:04.119 --> 00:56:06.599
and and whatnot. So I was riding along one day

1031
00:56:06.760 --> 00:56:09.599
and uh I kind of looked down a path, uh

1032
00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:13.400
that my my dad had made. Uh because best described

1033
00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:15.880
me and my family were outdoorsy.

1034
00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:17.320
We like to hunt, we like to fish.

1035
00:56:17.880 --> 00:56:20.679
Uh just kind of wandering around the woods and whatnot.

1036
00:56:20.760 --> 00:56:23.960
And and uh but uh I looked down this path

1037
00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:26.519
that me and my dad had made in the in

1038
00:56:26.599 --> 00:56:29.920
that patch of woods, and uh there was uh a

1039
00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:32.719
cub and there was uh I think there was two

1040
00:56:32.760 --> 00:56:35.360
or three cubs, and there was a sal uh mama

1041
00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:37.559
bear and uh it was that was just weird. I

1042
00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:39.840
remember seeing that and I was like, holy crap, you know,

1043
00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:43.239
and uh but uh uh but the best I can

1044
00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:43.679
kind of.

1045
00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:43.920
Uh.

1046
00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:46.519
I was told by a biologists that we have like

1047
00:56:46.639 --> 00:56:49.960
a finger I guess you call them like finger mountains

1048
00:56:49.960 --> 00:56:53.039
that come in and stop in our county from the

1049
00:56:53.039 --> 00:56:56.480
Appalachian Mountains. So like those bear and stuff come down

1050
00:56:56.519 --> 00:56:59.280
through the Appleatchan Mountains. And and as you know of

1051
00:56:59.320 --> 00:57:03.000
you know, bigfoots, sidings and Appalachi is a huge thing,

1052
00:57:03.079 --> 00:57:03.320
you know.

1053
00:57:03.480 --> 00:57:07.400
Stories yeah, absolutely, but uh yeah.

1054
00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:08.679
I know that's all I got.

1055
00:57:08.719 --> 00:57:08.920
Man.

1056
00:57:09.119 --> 00:57:11.559
Uh It's like I said in the comments, it's short

1057
00:57:11.559 --> 00:57:12.079
and sweet.

1058
00:57:12.119 --> 00:57:15.599
It was. It was I got.

1059
00:57:15.880 --> 00:57:17.559
Hairs are starting to kind of go down on my

1060
00:57:17.639 --> 00:57:20.760
arm now every time I tell that, uh, my hairs

1061
00:57:20.800 --> 00:57:22.599
stand up on my arm, you know, and I get

1062
00:57:22.639 --> 00:57:25.320
like the chills on my arm because it was such

1063
00:57:25.360 --> 00:57:27.800
a such a weird thing, and it freaked it freaked me.

1064
00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:28.760
Out and my cousin out.

1065
00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:31.559
But uh uh uh you know, one day, if I

1066
00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:35.280
get some time, I'll uh uh if you're having another

1067
00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:38.000
live or something, and I can get my cousin around.

1068
00:57:38.000 --> 00:57:40.400
Man, he can tell the same experience. And it was.

1069
00:57:40.480 --> 00:57:42.159
It was, it was pretty weird man.

1070
00:57:43.239 --> 00:57:45.719
That would that would be fantastic. Have you ever looked

1071
00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:49.639
up the kb R Oh, No.

1072
00:57:49.519 --> 00:57:51.920
I have no idea what you're what you're talking about there.

1073
00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:56.199
It's a uh there's an organization in Kentucky. It's a

1074
00:57:56.239 --> 00:57:59.840
Big four organization called the kb R O and uh

1075
00:58:00.159 --> 00:58:03.480
they have just tons and tons of bigfoot reports from

1076
00:58:03.519 --> 00:58:06.639
over the years. And I would be curious if there's

1077
00:58:06.679 --> 00:58:09.199
other stuff that's happened in that same area that you're

1078
00:58:09.239 --> 00:58:14.639
referring to. I would recommend checking it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1079
00:58:14.679 --> 00:58:18.480
he Charlie Raymond's his name. He might even be He

1080
00:58:18.519 --> 00:58:21.840
tries to document all the stuff from Kentucky as well.

1081
00:58:21.840 --> 00:58:25.000
He's a good guy. That Fort Knox area here's south

1082
00:58:25.039 --> 00:58:27.719
of Fort Knox, right, I mean that area is wild

1083
00:58:28.159 --> 00:58:28.800
from what I've heard.

1084
00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:30.960
Yes, yeah it is. Yeah.

1085
00:58:31.079 --> 00:58:33.400
I live in the East View area now, which is

1086
00:58:33.440 --> 00:58:36.360
I used to work on Fort Knox for a contractor.

1087
00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:41.960
But I live to twenty twenty minutes kind of southwest

1088
00:58:41.960 --> 00:58:44.239
of Fort Knox now and I live in even a

1089
00:58:44.360 --> 00:58:45.480
more remote area now.

1090
00:58:45.639 --> 00:58:46.840
So, but that was it was.

1091
00:58:46.760 --> 00:58:49.960
So weird because you know that you're talking like, I

1092
00:58:49.960 --> 00:58:54.280
don't know, sixty to seventy houses subdivision and and you know,

1093
00:58:54.360 --> 00:58:56.440
it happened in a you know, hunter acre patch of

1094
00:58:56.440 --> 00:58:59.920
woods besides the subdivision, you know, so it was something like,

1095
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:02.639
you know, we weren't we weren't expecting to see that

1096
00:59:02.800 --> 00:59:05.880
that day, but uh, it was it was it was

1097
00:59:05.920 --> 00:59:09.320
wild man, And I can still, like I remember every

1098
00:59:09.400 --> 00:59:11.719
detail about it, Like there was no smell because we

1099
00:59:11.719 --> 00:59:14.800
were in the middle of you know, winter time, so uh,

1100
00:59:14.920 --> 00:59:16.920
you know, your nose kind of gets jaming from being

1101
00:59:16.960 --> 00:59:17.480
on the cold.

1102
00:59:18.079 --> 00:59:18.480
Uh.

1103
00:59:18.480 --> 00:59:19.599
But uh, it was.

1104
00:59:19.559 --> 00:59:23.159
Just it was so just just just an obscure experience.

1105
00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:26.599
But uh uh but yeah, that's all I have, Manu.

1106
00:59:26.960 --> 00:59:29.519
I just kind of stumbled across your your page here

1107
00:59:29.599 --> 00:59:32.239
on just just scrolling, and I was like, man, I

1108
00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:34.960
like telling that. I like telling that encounter every time

1109
00:59:35.000 --> 00:59:36.599
I get the chance to.

1110
00:59:36.800 --> 00:59:39.480
So, well, Davis, I'm glad you came up. Thank you

1111
00:59:39.519 --> 00:59:42.920
so much for sharing what your experiences. We appreciate it.

1112
00:59:43.400 --> 00:59:45.599
Yes, sir, yep, yeah, it was a pleasure. And good

1113
00:59:45.639 --> 00:59:47.480
good luck on your your battle man.

1114
00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:48.519
Thank you.

1115
00:59:50.119 --> 00:59:50.400
Either.

1116
00:59:50.480 --> 00:59:54.480
How are you hey, good good, good, good afternoon. How

1117
00:59:54.519 --> 00:59:55.079
are you.

1118
00:59:55.480 --> 00:59:58.320
I'm doing all right? Feel free to to share what

1119
00:59:58.519 --> 00:59:59.519
you've experienced.

1120
01:00:00.159 --> 01:00:02.679
Yeah, okay, I currently, Just so we're clear, I currently

1121
01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:06.480
reside in southwest Florida. But these encounters, it was a

1122
01:00:06.519 --> 01:00:10.199
dog man goes back to twenty fourteen, and I'll just

1123
01:00:10.239 --> 01:00:12.400
give you a couple. I had three different encounters with

1124
01:00:12.440 --> 01:00:14.840
this thing. The first one is going to be a

1125
01:00:14.960 --> 01:00:17.760
very brief one. I worked for a production company in

1126
01:00:17.800 --> 01:00:20.280
a town called Whitehall, Michigan, which is by Montague in

1127
01:00:20.320 --> 01:00:23.480
the western part of Michigan. My family's farm, I'll kind

1128
01:00:23.480 --> 01:00:26.719
of give you a layout, was in a town called Montague.

1129
01:00:27.239 --> 01:00:30.440
Heavily wooded area bordered by cornfield soybean field despair, I

1130
01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:33.119
guess about, and Lake Michigan was about three miles to

1131
01:00:33.159 --> 01:00:36.480
the west. On this night, it was a pretty much

1132
01:00:36.480 --> 01:00:40.400
we had lake effect snow happening. So I had to

1133
01:00:40.719 --> 01:00:42.400
do some stuff the next day and run down to

1134
01:00:42.440 --> 01:00:44.599
a town called Muskegan. So I want to get the

1135
01:00:44.639 --> 01:00:46.199
where we're at. We're kind of we were a low

1136
01:00:46.320 --> 01:00:48.639
priority for plowing, so I would go out there and

1137
01:00:48.760 --> 01:00:50.440
get the driveway stole and stuff. So I had a

1138
01:00:50.480 --> 01:00:54.360
clear way out. Well. We had a spring fed creek.

1139
01:00:54.440 --> 01:00:55.880
I call it a creek, some people call it a

1140
01:00:55.920 --> 01:00:57.920
creek that come through the yard there on the property

1141
01:00:58.079 --> 01:01:02.000
and and I want to say the south the north

1142
01:01:02.599 --> 01:01:05.000
east corner is the patch of woods where the deer

1143
01:01:05.039 --> 01:01:07.880
will pent up. And as I'm shoveling, I kind of hear,

1144
01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:11.199
you know, in the creek, and I'm just, oh, those

1145
01:01:11.199 --> 01:01:13.280
are the deer. Well, I were one of those little

1146
01:01:13.360 --> 01:01:16.800
night lights on my hat, and I just as I

1147
01:01:16.840 --> 01:01:20.840
got closer, there was a what's the smell I can

1148
01:01:21.239 --> 01:01:23.679
closely give you like a more of a wet dog

1149
01:01:23.800 --> 01:01:27.320
sewage type smell that was. And sometimes there would be

1150
01:01:27.360 --> 01:01:30.199
parts of the creek there that would get stagnant and stuff,

1151
01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:31.800
and you know, the methane would come up, and I

1152
01:01:31.800 --> 01:01:34.880
didn't pay no attention. Well, I heard a snap and

1153
01:01:34.920 --> 01:01:37.960
I looked over with the light and there was this

1154
01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:41.079
one was it was almost like a on all fours

1155
01:01:41.079 --> 01:01:44.199
and it looked like a wolf, a really really big wolf,

1156
01:01:44.239 --> 01:01:48.079
and it was great with a little white stripe and

1157
01:01:48.119 --> 01:01:50.880
it took off due west at an incredible rate of

1158
01:01:50.920 --> 01:01:53.119
speed and it was gone in about I don't know

1159
01:01:53.159 --> 01:01:55.440
half a second to a second max. And all I

1160
01:01:55.480 --> 01:01:58.800
heard was crashing trees and stuff. And at first, you know,

1161
01:01:58.920 --> 01:02:02.039
in my mind, I'm like, okay, hey, that never seen that. Now,

1162
01:02:02.519 --> 01:02:04.920
some wolves from the up were known to trickle down,

1163
01:02:05.360 --> 01:02:09.000
you know, into the main peninsula of Michigan, and we

1164
01:02:09.079 --> 01:02:11.639
have a pretty good livestock heard out there as well

1165
01:02:11.679 --> 01:02:15.400
as deer. So I really didn't pay it no attention

1166
01:02:15.440 --> 01:02:16.840
as kind of went in and got ready for the

1167
01:02:16.840 --> 01:02:19.559
next day. Well, let's fast forward to It would have

1168
01:02:19.559 --> 01:02:24.519
been around July of twenty fifteen. And I used to

1169
01:02:24.760 --> 01:02:26.800
I liked to. I was a big avid trout fisherman.

1170
01:02:26.880 --> 01:02:28.239
We had a lot of brook trout and stuff in

1171
01:02:28.239 --> 01:02:30.400
the creek, so i'd go there and trim limbs to

1172
01:02:30.440 --> 01:02:33.159
get to keep the you know, a good flow going

1173
01:02:33.239 --> 01:02:36.719
and stuff well. As approached as I come up at

1174
01:02:36.960 --> 01:02:40.400
about I would say, about about a half mile at

1175
01:02:40.440 --> 01:02:43.119
Benz to the Ben's due east. The creek does it

1176
01:02:43.159 --> 01:02:45.199
because it flows down from the north of a town

1177
01:02:45.199 --> 01:02:51.639
called Rothberry. Anyhow, I see what appears to be from

1178
01:02:51.679 --> 01:02:54.760
the back looks like a big black bear, and that's

1179
01:02:54.840 --> 01:02:57.920
what I'm thinking. There have been black bear sightings around

1180
01:02:57.960 --> 01:03:01.480
the area. So I'm just thinking, and I always care,

1181
01:03:01.559 --> 01:03:04.280
you know, I a knife and a side arm, just

1182
01:03:04.360 --> 01:03:07.559
you know, kyote or something take care of the barn

1183
01:03:07.639 --> 01:03:11.239
with population. Anyhow, wind was kind of coming from the

1184
01:03:11.239 --> 01:03:14.119
east that day, and I'm kind of in the little

1185
01:03:14.159 --> 01:03:17.480
thickets to the crick and this thing, whatever it is,

1186
01:03:18.159 --> 01:03:21.360
what I thought was a bear, is digging very viciously

1187
01:03:21.480 --> 01:03:25.960
into the bank of this crick. Well, it suddenly stops,

1188
01:03:27.360 --> 01:03:35.480
tilts its nose skyward, proceeds to stand bipedally. I kind

1189
01:03:35.480 --> 01:03:37.880
of froze. I got behind like where my image was

1190
01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:42.000
kind of broken up, and this thing was sniffing the wind.

1191
01:03:42.480 --> 01:03:44.320
I kid you not. I mean I'm shaking. I still

1192
01:03:44.320 --> 01:03:47.199
get chills, and it makes I still get very I mean,

1193
01:03:47.239 --> 01:03:49.360
this thing gave me nightmares for quite some time.

1194
01:03:49.920 --> 01:03:50.440
Oh sure.

1195
01:03:51.079 --> 01:03:54.079
And this thing proceeds to I mean it's almost like

1196
01:03:54.280 --> 01:03:59.320
horror movie crap, slowly turned to where it's almost not

1197
01:03:59.400 --> 01:04:03.000
quite looking me in the eye, but census, I'm there.

1198
01:04:03.840 --> 01:04:06.599
I'm frozen in fear. I to this day, nothing has

1199
01:04:06.599 --> 01:04:09.280
stopped me like that. I mean, I was my mind

1200
01:04:09.360 --> 01:04:13.280
is telling me go, go go, but my body and

1201
01:04:13.320 --> 01:04:16.320
nothing else is reacting to that. I'm frozen. I'm petrified.

1202
01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:18.199
Now.

1203
01:04:18.199 --> 01:04:19.840
The next thing I'm about to tell you, the closest

1204
01:04:19.880 --> 01:04:21.719
thing I can give you reference to and how this

1205
01:04:21.800 --> 01:04:24.559
thing leaped and took off, is if you know how

1206
01:04:24.599 --> 01:04:27.880
a flea. How tiny they are can bounce like they do.

1207
01:04:29.119 --> 01:04:33.079
This thing took one leap and probably cleared thirty five

1208
01:04:33.119 --> 01:04:37.360
to forty feet I kid you not, was probably fifteen

1209
01:04:37.400 --> 01:04:41.840
feet vertical, hit the ground running due east and all

1210
01:04:41.880 --> 01:04:47.719
I heard was snapping, So that one I was petrified.

1211
01:04:47.760 --> 01:04:50.360
I went in and you know, I wasn't a very

1212
01:04:50.360 --> 01:04:53.519
big drinker, but I grabbed a bottle of spirits and

1213
01:04:53.559 --> 01:04:56.519
I took a big shot. And my aunt and father

1214
01:04:56.639 --> 01:04:59.559
at the time, we were there and they're like, what's

1215
01:04:59.599 --> 01:05:02.400
wrong with you? Look like you've seen a ghost. And

1216
01:05:02.440 --> 01:05:04.800
I couldn't even hardly speak. I'm like stutter, stutter and

1217
01:05:04.880 --> 01:05:06.960
over trying to tell them this, and they're like, oh,

1218
01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:10.199
you're crazy. You know, there's nothing like that, and that

1219
01:05:10.360 --> 01:05:13.880
I was called crazy. Called a few of my friends

1220
01:05:13.880 --> 01:05:15.840
a couple of days later and we went just a

1221
01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:18.159
little bit in and we I don't know the you've

1222
01:05:18.159 --> 01:05:20.760
seen cedar trees, I'm sure, my friend, and how big

1223
01:05:20.880 --> 01:05:25.320
at the base? They get right? It literally, look, I've

1224
01:05:25.320 --> 01:05:27.119
seen deer rubs and stuff. And this is where I

1225
01:05:27.199 --> 01:05:32.639
contacted the Michigan DNR and the Muskegon County Sheriff's Department.

1226
01:05:33.119 --> 01:05:35.079
There was a tough to hair in this tree, which

1227
01:05:35.119 --> 01:05:37.480
I grabbed with tweezers and put in a plastic bag.

1228
01:05:38.039 --> 01:05:40.159
The two guys I had with me were avid hunters,

1229
01:05:40.239 --> 01:05:43.119
and I just wanted to have somebody there in case

1230
01:05:43.760 --> 01:05:48.639
this thing showed up again at the probably about from

1231
01:05:48.679 --> 01:05:52.199
six feet down. This tree was literally I mean, the

1232
01:05:52.239 --> 01:05:53.639
only thing I can compare it to is if a

1233
01:05:53.679 --> 01:05:56.320
black bear or a something with claws sat there in

1234
01:05:56.559 --> 01:05:59.880
just and the bark, the bark of the tree would spread.

1235
01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:03.239
It's so fine. It was like, it's hard to describe,

1236
01:06:03.239 --> 01:06:06.239
but it just looked like a bunch of dangling bark.

1237
01:06:06.360 --> 01:06:10.440
I mean, like something was really pissed off. So the

1238
01:06:10.519 --> 01:06:13.280
DNR gets out there with the Sheriff's department. I give

1239
01:06:13.320 --> 01:06:17.360
them the hair, and they like, well do you do

1240
01:06:17.400 --> 01:06:19.280
you can you tell us a little about So I

1241
01:06:19.320 --> 01:06:21.039
told them the story of when I was in the

1242
01:06:21.079 --> 01:06:23.719
creek and saw this what I thought was a black bear.

1243
01:06:24.840 --> 01:06:27.400
Well I see a smirk come across the Sheriff's face,

1244
01:06:27.519 --> 01:06:30.400
like I'm crazy. At this day, they actually wanted to

1245
01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:33.079
take me down to get mentally evaluated at a center

1246
01:06:33.159 --> 01:06:35.760
because they thought I would like, yeah, I swear to god,

1247
01:06:35.800 --> 01:06:38.639
it's in the report of them Skeegan County Sheriff's Department

1248
01:06:38.639 --> 01:06:45.079
in July at two, tenty fifteen. This DNR off story.

1249
01:06:45.280 --> 01:06:47.480
They're just they were almost like toying with me, kind

1250
01:06:47.480 --> 01:06:49.639
of like poking a little fun, but not quite crossing

1251
01:06:49.639 --> 01:06:52.559
the boundaries, if you will, like make paining me out

1252
01:06:52.599 --> 01:06:57.199
to be some crazy cat. So fast forward about I

1253
01:06:57.239 --> 01:07:02.159
don't know, four to five months and the DNR, the

1254
01:07:02.480 --> 01:07:06.960
one of the officers, shows back back up and wants

1255
01:07:06.960 --> 01:07:09.039
to follow up on the report. And I was like, well,

1256
01:07:09.079 --> 01:07:10.800
this is odd. And I were just sitting down there,

1257
01:07:10.840 --> 01:07:14.199
and he said the hair they tested was K nine,

1258
01:07:14.239 --> 01:07:18.440
but they cannot describe which type or breed. That was

1259
01:07:18.480 --> 01:07:22.159
his answer, And he said, I employ you to seek

1260
01:07:22.239 --> 01:07:24.079
And this is again what he said, I employ you

1261
01:07:24.119 --> 01:07:26.480
to seek mental help because I don't think what you saw.

1262
01:07:26.840 --> 01:07:29.679
He says, what you're describing to me is a were wolf.

1263
01:07:29.679 --> 01:07:31.480
I said, no, no, no, sir. This looked like about

1264
01:07:31.480 --> 01:07:35.079
an eight foot tall German shepherd. That's what it looked like,

1265
01:07:36.280 --> 01:07:39.440
an exact all black German shepherd. The first one was

1266
01:07:39.480 --> 01:07:42.360
gray and white. This one was black as night, like

1267
01:07:42.559 --> 01:07:47.000
jet black. So I'm I'm I'm crazy, you know, I'm

1268
01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:49.280
being painted as crazy, So I mean, it's playing mind

1269
01:07:49.320 --> 01:07:51.960
tricks on me. Three days later, my aunt drives a

1270
01:07:52.000 --> 01:07:53.800
truck and she usually gets home about one thirty in

1271
01:07:53.840 --> 01:07:56.239
the morning, and this was one of the ones calling

1272
01:07:56.280 --> 01:07:59.800
me crazy. So I wake up one morning and I'm

1273
01:07:59.800 --> 01:08:03.199
having coffee downstairs, and she comes down and she goes, hey, Joey,

1274
01:08:04.119 --> 01:08:06.480
what kind of thing were you saying you saw? And

1275
01:08:06.559 --> 01:08:09.360
I said it looked like an eight foot tall German

1276
01:08:09.400 --> 01:08:12.000
shepherd Tootz. I called her toots. That's not a real name.

1277
01:08:14.239 --> 01:08:17.359
And she goes, well, when I got home last night,

1278
01:08:17.560 --> 01:08:19.680
at one point thirty, right before I stepped in the house,

1279
01:08:19.720 --> 01:08:23.000
I heard a howl and I've never heard a coyote

1280
01:08:23.000 --> 01:08:26.000
howl like that. And she said there was some sort

1281
01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:28.560
of like she said when there was a growl that

1282
01:08:28.760 --> 01:08:31.840
almost made her soul tremble, like a very low growl,

1283
01:08:32.720 --> 01:08:35.079
and she said she never saw nothing. That's the only

1284
01:08:35.119 --> 01:08:38.560
sound she heard, and it was coming out by I'd say,

1285
01:08:38.600 --> 01:08:43.439
to the southeast of the prop on the property, where

1286
01:08:43.439 --> 01:08:46.560
there's a bunch of hardwoods, oak and stuff like that.

1287
01:08:47.199 --> 01:08:49.039
And I said, well, do you think I'm crazy? Now

1288
01:08:49.319 --> 01:08:52.640
to this day she will not step well. They ended

1289
01:08:52.720 --> 01:08:55.600
up selling that farm, I guess about three years ago.

1290
01:08:56.039 --> 01:08:58.520
But after that she would not even step foot into

1291
01:08:58.520 --> 01:09:01.359
the woods. Her dogs would get up out out twenty

1292
01:09:01.399 --> 01:09:03.600
yards from the woods, but would not enter the woods.

1293
01:09:04.239 --> 01:09:06.359
And all I know is the second time I saw

1294
01:09:06.399 --> 01:09:08.079
it and the third time I saw it was the

1295
01:09:08.119 --> 01:09:11.520
same thing. And every time, the second and third counter.

1296
01:09:11.680 --> 01:09:13.960
The one thing I'll always remember is a the smell

1297
01:09:14.319 --> 01:09:17.680
and how quiet, deathly quiet and silent those woods. Spell

1298
01:09:18.239 --> 01:09:21.960
crow shut up, squirrel shut up, chirping songbirds shut up,

1299
01:09:22.119 --> 01:09:24.560
and it was dead silent. And then that smell came in.

1300
01:09:25.199 --> 01:09:29.159
And the third one was almost like something was pacing

1301
01:09:29.199 --> 01:09:31.640
me out of the woods, and when I would stop,

1302
01:09:31.760 --> 01:09:36.399
it would stop. It finally like I didn't hear it

1303
01:09:36.399 --> 01:09:40.000
stop anymore. And I was about twenty yards from the

1304
01:09:40.039 --> 01:09:42.960
soybean field. So I got there and I always kept

1305
01:09:42.960 --> 01:09:45.279
the riding ze Moore out there. It moved pretty fast

1306
01:09:45.319 --> 01:09:47.079
and I high tailed it to the house. And that

1307
01:09:47.159 --> 01:09:48.640
was the last encounter. I wasn't going to call this

1308
01:09:48.720 --> 01:09:51.199
year again. I wasn't going to call the DNR. I

1309
01:09:51.239 --> 01:09:53.680
simply went in there and then just kind of wrap

1310
01:09:53.720 --> 01:09:56.239
it up. Yeah, I mean this thing, I this one

1311
01:09:56.439 --> 01:09:58.600
was seen out by the salt block. And I don't

1312
01:09:58.600 --> 01:10:00.359
know if you ever seen a salt block put out

1313
01:10:00.359 --> 01:10:04.399
for deers. My aunt saw. My aunt saw it do this.

1314
01:10:04.920 --> 01:10:07.079
It picked up that salt block with one hand, and

1315
01:10:07.119 --> 01:10:09.640
that field is about three hundred yards across, and it

1316
01:10:09.800 --> 01:10:12.479
threw it like a baseball, she said, and it went

1317
01:10:12.640 --> 01:10:16.520
right into the other woods. And she freaked out. She

1318
01:10:16.600 --> 01:10:18.039
freaked out. She left the house and when I got

1319
01:10:18.079 --> 01:10:20.359
a hotel that night. And to wrap it up, my

1320
01:10:20.439 --> 01:10:22.880
father was an avid hunter. He thought I was crazy too.

1321
01:10:23.359 --> 01:10:25.159
He goes out and sits in his deer stand. One

1322
01:10:25.159 --> 01:10:27.920
morning he comes racing. I'm sitting there making eggs and

1323
01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:31.439
toasts and he comes flying in the slider door, crawls

1324
01:10:31.479 --> 01:10:33.600
right under his covers, and he goes, can you give

1325
01:10:33.640 --> 01:10:36.239
me some I was like, ye, all right, pops, And

1326
01:10:36.279 --> 01:10:38.920
he goes, uh no. And I was like, well, well,

1327
01:10:38.960 --> 01:10:40.720
what's going on? Do I need to call?

1328
01:10:40.880 --> 01:10:41.079
You know?

1329
01:10:41.199 --> 01:10:43.359
Are you having a medical commerger? She goes, I don't

1330
01:10:43.399 --> 01:10:45.640
know what I saw in those woods, but whatever it

1331
01:10:45.760 --> 01:10:47.439
was followed me out of there, and I am never

1332
01:10:47.479 --> 01:10:49.800
going in those woods again. That is what he told me.

1333
01:10:50.520 --> 01:10:53.319
What I saw That second one I saw, I saw

1334
01:10:53.439 --> 01:10:57.119
clear as day and I'll never forget how it not.

1335
01:10:57.239 --> 01:11:00.880
I won't say slowly, but it like and just kind

1336
01:11:00.880 --> 01:11:03.399
of stood up by peedally and then the way it

1337
01:11:03.479 --> 01:11:06.000
was sniffing the air, and I mean, I'm a good

1338
01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:08.720
two hundred and fifty yards away from this thing, and

1339
01:11:08.760 --> 01:11:12.079
it picked me up and it just cocked its head like,

1340
01:11:12.359 --> 01:11:16.159
you know, like I said to this day, I'm I

1341
01:11:16.199 --> 01:11:18.439
don't like, I won't go in those woods again. And

1342
01:11:19.000 --> 01:11:21.079
I don't you know. I was called crazy by the

1343
01:11:21.439 --> 01:11:24.840
Wildlife Department and I was called they wanted to have

1344
01:11:25.039 --> 01:11:27.479
the The sriff said, I will I want to take

1345
01:11:27.479 --> 01:11:29.880
you down to get evaluated. I said, there's no need

1346
01:11:29.920 --> 01:11:32.680
to evaluate me. I said, I'm telling you what, do

1347
01:11:32.720 --> 01:11:34.560
you have any proof? And I had the hair. I said,

1348
01:11:34.920 --> 01:11:36.960
does that look? What's that look like to you? I

1349
01:11:36.960 --> 01:11:38.399
haven't seen it? And I'm with the hair, and that's

1350
01:11:38.399 --> 01:11:39.960
when the DNR officer is kind of looking at it.

1351
01:11:39.960 --> 01:11:43.399
I was like, well, he's got a point. And that's

1352
01:11:43.399 --> 01:11:45.680
when the officers said, you know what, you guys handle this.

1353
01:11:45.760 --> 01:11:47.399
I'm out of here, and the sheriff took off and

1354
01:11:47.439 --> 01:11:50.520
I ended up talking with the DNR guys and they're

1355
01:11:50.600 --> 01:11:52.560
you know. They're just like, we just don't you know.

1356
01:11:52.640 --> 01:11:55.680
What you're describing just isn't possible. I said, listen, I

1357
01:11:55.760 --> 01:11:57.880
know what I saw. And this thing stood up on

1358
01:11:57.920 --> 01:12:00.720
two legs. He goes, right, well, black bears do that.

1359
01:12:00.760 --> 01:12:03.800
I said, well, do black bears leap thirty five to

1360
01:12:03.840 --> 01:12:05.039
forty feet in one bound?

1361
01:12:05.720 --> 01:12:05.960
Nope?

1362
01:12:06.560 --> 01:12:08.680
And he goes and did that. I said, yes, it

1363
01:12:08.680 --> 01:12:12.439
did that. So they went out to where I described

1364
01:12:12.479 --> 01:12:15.520
it happened the whole the thing. This thing was digging.

1365
01:12:15.600 --> 01:12:20.279
There's claw marks, like, like, god, how do I describe them?

1366
01:12:20.720 --> 01:12:23.920
Like Freddy Krueger? They said, that's what they described it.

1367
01:12:24.239 --> 01:12:27.479
They're like, who's got the Freddy Krueger toys? And then

1368
01:12:27.520 --> 01:12:29.079
they looked to the east and saw it and they

1369
01:12:29.119 --> 01:12:33.079
said there was a There were branches seven feet off

1370
01:12:33.159 --> 01:12:35.920
the ground probably they said three to four inches thick

1371
01:12:35.960 --> 01:12:38.479
that were snapped in half. Live branches.

1372
01:12:39.960 --> 01:12:40.119
Yeah.

1373
01:12:40.640 --> 01:12:42.520
That kind of a little bigfoot like too.

1374
01:12:43.199 --> 01:12:46.680
Yeah, that's my encounters. You know, there's some details I

1375
01:12:46.720 --> 01:12:48.199
probably left out, but if you do want a more

1376
01:12:48.239 --> 01:12:50.199
in depth detail, I do have an episode out on

1377
01:12:50.239 --> 01:12:53.479
the Encounters Radio with Vic and it's one thirty two awesome.

1378
01:12:55.000 --> 01:12:57.159
You should talk to Vic man, so thank you. We don't.

1379
01:12:57.680 --> 01:12:59.680
I usually try to stick to big Foot, but I

1380
01:13:00.079 --> 01:13:02.720
shit you coming up. Have you ever heard the Joe

1381
01:13:02.760 --> 01:13:05.880
Barger account from Mannistee National Forest.

1382
01:13:06.079 --> 01:13:08.399
Oh no, man, Steve, but I know that's that's another

1383
01:13:08.439 --> 01:13:09.840
big one up there by the city.

1384
01:13:09.880 --> 01:13:13.560
Correct. Yeah. So what I would recommend after you get

1385
01:13:13.560 --> 01:13:16.279
done with this is go on YouTube and search for

1386
01:13:16.600 --> 01:13:21.039
Joe Barger b A r g e R. And he has.

1387
01:13:21.159 --> 01:13:23.520
He's a truck driver who had a really intense dog

1388
01:13:23.560 --> 01:13:27.039
Man encounter in your similar area that you just shared about,

1389
01:13:27.079 --> 01:13:30.520
and it will rock your world. So I would o

1390
01:13:30.680 --> 01:13:34.920
Barger yep, Joe Barger b A r G e R.

1391
01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:38.399
So I will look out and it'll it's going to

1392
01:13:38.479 --> 01:13:40.279
rock your world. But thank you for coming up, sir.

1393
01:13:40.319 --> 01:13:41.079
I appreciate it.

1394
01:13:41.640 --> 01:13:43.319
Thank you, and good luck with your battle. Sir.

1395
01:13:43.960 --> 01:13:48.039
Yes, sir man, that's wild.

1396
01:13:48.079 --> 01:13:48.319
Yeah.

1397
01:13:48.479 --> 01:13:51.760
If guys, if you're in dog Man, look that up

1398
01:13:51.800 --> 01:13:57.680
on YouTube, the Joe Barger story. It's pretty wild. All right,

1399
01:13:59.439 --> 01:14:01.960
let's continue here, Hi there, how are you doing?

1400
01:14:02.720 --> 01:14:03.520
How you doing, Bud?

1401
01:14:04.359 --> 01:14:04.479
Hey?

1402
01:14:04.520 --> 01:14:06.279
You doing all right? What brings you up? Sir?

1403
01:14:07.680 --> 01:14:09.800
Well, honestly, I really want to just talk to you, man,

1404
01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:13.800
I mean I have some stories, all right. I've called

1405
01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:16.800
one of your laughs before on TikTok.

1406
01:14:18.359 --> 01:14:18.800
Familiar.

1407
01:14:19.399 --> 01:14:26.960
Yeah. I'm from Southwest PA. When I was out fishing

1408
01:14:26.960 --> 01:14:29.159
one night and I had something to walk up on

1409
01:14:29.279 --> 01:14:33.920
me in the middle of the night, and I had

1410
01:14:33.920 --> 01:14:38.199
a friend with me. He was asleep by campfire. Walked

1411
01:14:38.279 --> 01:14:40.439
up to our camp and it stood there and stared

1412
01:14:40.439 --> 01:14:43.159
at me for like thirty seconds and walked off into

1413
01:14:43.199 --> 01:14:43.800
the woods.

1414
01:14:44.119 --> 01:14:45.800
Yeah.

1415
01:14:46.319 --> 01:14:46.600
Uh.

1416
01:14:46.640 --> 01:14:53.680
He claims that he has heard uh a chip like

1417
01:14:53.840 --> 01:15:00.720
monkey like noises in the same location. She did an

1418
01:15:00.760 --> 01:15:04.119
interview with a guy who was a researcher in that location,

1419
01:15:04.319 --> 01:15:08.119
Like they were on site and they I think they

1420
01:15:08.119 --> 01:15:09.960
spent a couple of nights out there. I think they

1421
01:15:10.039 --> 01:15:14.560
got some audio recordings and stuff. I've had a couple

1422
01:15:14.640 --> 01:15:19.880
other weird things happened to me, just stuff. You know,

1423
01:15:19.960 --> 01:15:23.000
I've never actually seen anything, but you know, I've heard

1424
01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:25.800
things walking around in the woods very close to me

1425
01:15:27.399 --> 01:15:31.680
and I couldn't see it, And you know, you get

1426
01:15:31.680 --> 01:15:36.520
that that fearful feeling where you know you almost don't

1427
01:15:36.520 --> 01:15:37.680
want to see it, you know what I mean?

1428
01:15:38.680 --> 01:15:41.600
Oh No, I totally guess you. So are you in

1429
01:15:41.680 --> 01:15:49.680
like the Lee Southwest Pennsylvania. That's like Pittsburghburg, Pittsburgh area. Okay,

1430
01:15:49.760 --> 01:15:52.760
so is south of Pittsburgh, south of Pittsburgh'sburgh crazy too.

1431
01:15:53.119 --> 01:15:56.640
Yeah, I'm east of Pittsburgh.

1432
01:15:57.039 --> 01:15:57.439
Okay.

1433
01:15:57.800 --> 01:15:59.560
That's where that first son he was, and my other

1434
01:15:59.600 --> 01:16:03.039
one was directly north of here, just below like the

1435
01:16:03.079 --> 01:16:10.680
New York line, the state line, yep. And and that's

1436
01:16:10.760 --> 01:16:14.279
not very far from Allegheny National Forest. And I know

1437
01:16:14.399 --> 01:16:16.640
a lot of stores can out come out of there.

1438
01:16:18.199 --> 01:16:20.920
I get a lot of stuff from Westmoreland County to.

1439
01:16:21.520 --> 01:16:23.760
Yes, that's where I'm at.

1440
01:16:24.439 --> 01:16:26.000
Okay.

1441
01:16:25.000 --> 01:16:30.720
Yeah, I wanted to ask you where do you think

1442
01:16:31.079 --> 01:16:32.640
I hear a lot of stuff coming out of the

1443
01:16:32.680 --> 01:16:43.920
East Coast in your opinion, what the concentration in the

1444
01:16:43.960 --> 01:16:45.079
most big foot settings?

1445
01:16:45.119 --> 01:16:48.720
What state is it for East Coast?

1446
01:16:49.079 --> 01:16:50.520
No, for the entire country.

1447
01:16:50.800 --> 01:16:56.800
Oh, for the entire country, I would say based off

1448
01:16:56.840 --> 01:17:01.279
of what I get, I'd say definitely Washington, Oregon or

1449
01:17:01.359 --> 01:17:08.600
number one, then northern California, and then a lot of

1450
01:17:08.600 --> 01:17:13.319
Ohio like Ohio and western Pa is a lot. That's

1451
01:17:13.359 --> 01:17:16.439
a lot of what I get, A ton of them.

1452
01:17:16.640 --> 01:17:19.800
So I would say, like your Ohio River too. You

1453
01:17:19.880 --> 01:17:22.960
follow the if you follow the Ohio River as it

1454
01:17:23.000 --> 01:17:26.720
goes a lot of stuff around the Ohio River. Those

1455
01:17:26.720 --> 01:17:29.600
are probably like the top the top areas that I've got,

1456
01:17:29.680 --> 01:17:35.439
Like I'm looking at my map right now, and yeah,

1457
01:17:35.600 --> 01:17:38.439
I would say probably those would be top right now.

1458
01:17:41.000 --> 01:17:43.720
Yeap, what did you I saw that you came out

1459
01:17:43.720 --> 01:17:47.560
with that string of sidings that was through Ohio, right, Yeah,

1460
01:17:47.600 --> 01:17:49.159
the string of sightings?

1461
01:17:49.520 --> 01:17:57.199
Yeah, that was I think. I think it's so what

1462
01:17:57.359 --> 01:18:00.199
I I I actually did a write up about this.

1463
01:18:01.199 --> 01:18:04.039
I did like a final write up on my website

1464
01:18:04.079 --> 01:18:07.279
on the blog area. Just not a lot of people

1465
01:18:07.279 --> 01:18:11.239
know it's there. But I think from what I've heard

1466
01:18:11.439 --> 01:18:16.359
is stuff like this happens every year, but this year

1467
01:18:16.560 --> 01:18:21.640
was different because there were people outside because there wasn't

1468
01:18:21.640 --> 01:18:23.600
a lot of snow and it was warmer, so they

1469
01:18:23.640 --> 01:18:27.319
had all these sightings in a time period that they

1470
01:18:27.359 --> 01:18:29.840
probably would have had in other years too, but in

1471
01:18:29.920 --> 01:18:32.760
other years it's been colder and so people weren't out

1472
01:18:32.800 --> 01:18:35.000
because it was snowy and stuff. That's what I've heard

1473
01:18:35.039 --> 01:18:40.000
from people that actually lived there and are researching Bigfoot

1474
01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:43.199
in the area, and I think that that that kind

1475
01:18:43.199 --> 01:18:44.640
of sounds pretty legit to me.

1476
01:18:45.039 --> 01:18:50.239
So I had another thought just the other day, Well,

1477
01:18:50.399 --> 01:18:53.199
I'm here in PA and we got all the smoke

1478
01:18:53.279 --> 01:18:55.479
from the Canadian wild farmers this year.

1479
01:18:55.600 --> 01:18:58.520
No, I know it. Yeah, so what.

1480
01:18:59.119 --> 01:19:02.439
Would you You wouldn't think that signings would go up

1481
01:19:02.520 --> 01:19:08.720
in that area based on the fires, you know what

1482
01:19:08.800 --> 01:19:09.079
I mean.

1483
01:19:09.960 --> 01:19:14.640
So that's a good question. But I will tell you,

1484
01:19:14.680 --> 01:19:16.760
like the first time I went to Oregon, in the

1485
01:19:16.800 --> 01:19:19.520
area that I went to, there's fires all around it

1486
01:19:20.199 --> 01:19:22.239
and we had a lot of crazy activity. The next

1487
01:19:22.319 --> 01:19:25.880
year there weren't any fires. So I think that when

1488
01:19:25.960 --> 01:19:29.239
you have fires in an area, it gets them riled up,

1489
01:19:29.319 --> 01:19:31.600
kind of like the rest of the wildlife, and they

1490
01:19:31.720 --> 01:19:35.279
start moving around. I know that that's happening right now

1491
01:19:35.760 --> 01:19:41.439
around Mount Hood from a few things I've heard. So yeah,

1492
01:19:41.960 --> 01:19:44.720
the fires do kind of rile, they get them to

1493
01:19:44.760 --> 01:19:47.680
move around. It just makes it hard for everyone unfortunately.

1494
01:19:47.880 --> 01:19:53.840
But yeah, I don't know, man, smoke sucks, though, are.

1495
01:19:54.039 --> 01:19:57.359
Like, I don't like, all right, well, I got you here.

1496
01:19:58.880 --> 01:20:01.279
I don't know which sid of this. You know, people

1497
01:20:01.319 --> 01:20:07.239
talk about the WEU stuff and the the physical side.

1498
01:20:07.319 --> 01:20:09.199
Where where you sit on all this, what do you

1499
01:20:09.239 --> 01:20:10.319
think this thing is?

1500
01:20:11.119 --> 01:20:15.680
Uh? So I go off of what I've experienced when

1501
01:20:15.680 --> 01:20:19.319
it comes to like my personal stuff, and what I've

1502
01:20:19.359 --> 01:20:22.960
experienced so far is you go, there's something out there

1503
01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:28.039
that's leaving tracks and breaking trees and stuff. But there's

1504
01:20:28.079 --> 01:20:33.560
also something out there that is if you verbally say

1505
01:20:33.680 --> 01:20:36.279
out loud to the woods, hey, if there's something here,

1506
01:20:36.319 --> 01:20:39.640
can you make a noise, it's responding to you. Because

1507
01:20:39.640 --> 01:20:42.560
I've had that happen to me. So I'm not seeing

1508
01:20:42.560 --> 01:20:45.880
stuff walk through portals, but I am. I have experienced

1509
01:20:46.039 --> 01:20:49.199
a little bit of weirdness too, So I'm kind of

1510
01:20:49.199 --> 01:20:49.880
in that, like.

1511
01:20:51.319 --> 01:20:54.840
I don't quite know, you're in between in between, I'm

1512
01:20:54.880 --> 01:20:57.680
in between. I'm not going to just say that it's

1513
01:20:57.840 --> 01:21:00.600
it's a monkey out of the woods. There's some weird

1514
01:21:00.600 --> 01:21:03.960
stuff going on. So where do you think the orbs

1515
01:21:04.159 --> 01:21:04.520
fit in?

1516
01:21:05.640 --> 01:21:09.319
H I don't know, man, But I did experience those

1517
01:21:09.359 --> 01:21:14.640
for the first time in Middle Tennessee this April freakiest

1518
01:21:14.640 --> 01:21:17.079
thing you've ever seen in your life. I didn't know

1519
01:21:17.079 --> 01:21:21.479
how to handle it because they weren't lightning bugs. We

1520
01:21:21.600 --> 01:21:24.000
flashed our lights on them, they weren't lightning bugs, and

1521
01:21:24.000 --> 01:21:28.079
they were just like zipping in and around us, and

1522
01:21:28.239 --> 01:21:30.520
it was just weird. Man. It was the weirdest thing

1523
01:21:31.800 --> 01:21:37.680
because it's like I talked to people where you know,

1524
01:21:37.760 --> 01:21:41.680
they turn into orbs or like I've talked to a

1525
01:21:41.720 --> 01:21:45.079
guy where he saw Bigfoot that was controlling an orb

1526
01:21:45.239 --> 01:21:50.159
in Iowa and Backbone State Park. That was a wild

1527
01:21:50.199 --> 01:21:54.159
one that was a long time ago. So, man, I

1528
01:21:54.199 --> 01:21:57.000
don't know, there's there's more than we realized going on

1529
01:21:57.079 --> 01:21:57.880
out there. I think.

1530
01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:02.119
I mean, I know that like my thinking, you know,

1531
01:22:02.520 --> 01:22:05.560
you would some people might think that Bigfoot and orbs

1532
01:22:05.560 --> 01:22:08.199
are maybe they're one and the same. So I think

1533
01:22:08.239 --> 01:22:11.000
there's some kind of Native American more that they can

1534
01:22:12.000 --> 01:22:14.000
need the orbs or travel as orbs.

1535
01:22:13.840 --> 01:22:20.439
Could could be. It's it's weird, it's extra connection. Yeah,

1536
01:22:21.039 --> 01:22:23.319
I don't know, man, it's it's kind of one of

1537
01:22:23.319 --> 01:22:25.560
those things that keeps you going and you try to

1538
01:22:25.600 --> 01:22:29.600
figure it out and draw connections. But I appreciate you

1539
01:22:29.680 --> 01:22:31.800
coming up for a little bit and chatting for it.

1540
01:22:31.840 --> 01:22:32.079
Man.

1541
01:22:32.880 --> 01:22:34.800
Oh sure, sure, it's great to talk to you, man,

1542
01:22:36.000 --> 01:22:36.920
praying for you.

1543
01:22:37.520 --> 01:22:39.800
Thank you. I appreciate that. I hope you can hang

1544
01:22:39.800 --> 01:22:40.479
out for a little bit.

1545
01:22:41.239 --> 01:22:41.720
Yes, sir.

1546
01:22:44.680 --> 01:22:46.720
My map is if you go to big for Society

1547
01:22:46.800 --> 01:22:51.199
podcast dot com and then click on siting map. It's

1548
01:22:51.239 --> 01:22:57.880
easier to use on a computer. There's like over a

1549
01:22:57.960 --> 01:23:08.600
thousand pins on there. It's crazy. All right, guys, I

1550
01:23:08.680 --> 01:23:11.439
appreciate you being here. Thank you so much for hanging out.

1551
01:23:11.479 --> 01:23:14.760
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1553
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1554
01:23:24.800 --> 01:23:27.600
want to say something directly to a very specific group

1555
01:23:27.640 --> 01:23:31.840
of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch or forces,

1556
01:23:32.199 --> 01:23:34.520
and if you've seen something that no one can explain,

1557
01:23:35.239 --> 01:23:38.119
or if you're a National park ranger or forestry worker

1558
01:23:38.159 --> 01:23:41.279
who's been told to stay quiet, if you're a pilot

1559
01:23:41.319 --> 01:23:44.840
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1560
01:23:44.880 --> 01:23:48.439
you're with the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence

1561
01:23:48.640 --> 01:23:51.640
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1562
01:23:51.960 --> 01:23:54.840
And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue

1563
01:23:54.880 --> 01:23:58.800
responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense.

1564
01:23:59.319 --> 01:24:02.720
If you're in the lock industry on a remote oil

1565
01:24:02.800 --> 01:24:05.960
field or a trucker with government contracts and you've had

1566
01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:09.640
something happen that you've never told a soul and if

1567
01:24:09.640 --> 01:24:13.319
you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher

1568
01:24:13.439 --> 01:24:17.119
under contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

1569
01:24:17.640 --> 01:24:20.119
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

1570
01:24:20.159 --> 01:24:23.640
spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,

1571
01:24:24.319 --> 01:24:27.439
or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA or

1572
01:24:27.479 --> 01:24:30.840
anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

1573
01:24:32.199 --> 01:24:35.640
then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

1574
01:24:37.439 --> 01:24:40.920
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

1575
01:24:41.399 --> 01:24:43.840
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

1576
01:24:43.880 --> 01:24:49.640
carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story,

1577
01:24:50.199 --> 01:24:54.039
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1578
01:24:54.039 --> 01:24:56.920
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1579
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1580
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