Jan. 26, 2025

A Hunter's Discovery | Michigan

Join host Jeremiah Byron in this gripping episode of Bigfoot Society as we delve into Brett's extraordinary encounter with what he encountered that day in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. As a lifelong resident and professional environmental...

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Season 1

Join host Jeremiah Byron in this gripping episode of Bigfoot Society as we delve into Brett's extraordinary encounter with what he encountered that day in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. As a lifelong resident and professional environmental scientist, Brett shares his vivid recollections of a fall day in 1976 when a regular hunting trip turned into a memorable Bigfoot sighting. Hear about his close encounter, the unique gait of the creature, and the unmistakable details that left Brett questioning his initial assumptions and later realizing the significance of what he saw.

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slash the Big for Society and now let's get on

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with the show. All right, Bigft Society, we get the

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privilege of talking to Brett. Brett is an individual that

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reached out with some information through the comments over on

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the YouTube channel, which do get a lot of my

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interviews from those YouTube comments. A lot of people ask

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me if I read all of them. I do read

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all of them as of right now. But Brett is

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an individual and he'll be sharing. Brett is an individual

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that I'll be sharing something that happened in the Upper

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Peninsula of Michigan. So, Brett's a privileged to have you

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on the show today.

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Thank you, thank you, glad to be here. Jeremiah.

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Awesome. And before before we get started with you sharing

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what happened, is there anything else that the listeners would

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need to know about yourself for context before we have

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you start in on what happened that day?

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Sure? Sure. I was born and raised in Market County, Michigan,

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and I am a professional air environmental scientist. I have

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been for thirty four years.

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Fantastic, Well, Brett, what I'm going to have you do

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is if you wouldn't mind taking us back to as

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far back as we need to go, you can kind

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of lay out what happened that day that you had

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that interaction with bigfoot up there.

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Okay, so this was back in the fall October nineteen

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seventy six, from nineteen seventy seven. I was a high

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school kid at the time, and that weekend we were

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at my dad hunting camp, myself, my grandfather, and my

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dad and his brother and a couple of guys that

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we hunt with. It was a beautiful Sunday morning. When

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I got up, all of these were in color and

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we were there to cut wood for the upcoming fire

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and deer season. So I'd asked my dad when I

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got up if I could go for a walk or

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go go our grouse hunting for a couple hours before

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we started wood, and Dad I said, yes you can,

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but I want you back here in two hours. Said okay.

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So I grabbed my hat and I grabbed my pump

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shot gun, and off down the road I went, and

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I walked. We had a lot of property, and I

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walked up this ravine and sat in a seat that

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was my uncle Charlie's. And I sat down in the

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seat for a while the rest as I walked a

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fair distance and I could hear something coming behind me,

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running very quickly. So I turned watch and here comes

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the red fox running right at me. I had no

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intention of harming the fox at all. I was marveling

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how fast he could run, and also I wonder what

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stirred him up, because I was the only guy around,

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and back then there were very few people in that

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part of the county, within about a mile of Lake Superior.

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So he disappeared from my site. I sat a little

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bit more than I decided I was going to walk

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back down the ravine out to the road and check

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a bear bait station that I had set up for

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a hunting. I had a bear permit, so it was

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a bit of a walk to get there, probably a

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good mile to go down these locking roads that Dad

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had to get to the seat. And my bait was

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on a small knoll. But I was walking through an

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area of sugar maple sugar maple stand and it had

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been damped that morning. We'd had a frost and the

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leaves were thawing, so it was very quiet walking. And

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I was walking up towards the knoll and I could

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see where I had tied the pail of just fish

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bait I had out there for the bears, and they

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had been coming for a couple of weeks. And I

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saw that the pail was pulled down, which is something

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I had done by design, as I knew a bear

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was up there, and I was strong enough to staff

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the rope to get the pail down. So I walked

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up onto the knoll and in front of me was

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this very large, hairy creature was I thought at that

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time was a bear. I didn't really know anything else.

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I didn't know about bigfoot. I knew nothing of that

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at my age at that time, and I stood there

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looking at this thing, thinking that is a really big bear.

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He was facing away from me, so his butt was

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facing me, and that's all I could see was his backside,

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and I was about fifty feet away. I was standing

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kind of a skew to him. I had my pump shotgun.

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I wasn't afraid at all because I just thought it

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was a bear. So I knew I wasn't going to

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shoot that bear with a shotgun. I had got myself

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control with them. My grandfather would have been very unhappy

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with me. I had no intention of doing it anyway.

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I just been there watching, looking at this very large

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one I thought was a bear. It picked his head

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up a couple of times, and looking around, I had

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the win in my face. I could smell him. He

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smelled bad, like a wet dog, as I recall, and

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I could see the back of his head a couple

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of times. It's kind of a funny shape, not around

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like I've seen bears. I've seen a lot of bear

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than the woods. At that time, when I was out

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in the withs with my dad and my grandpa, and

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all of a sudden he picked his head up, but

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he's looking around again. I couldn't see the front. I

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could only see the back of his head and his behind.

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He put his head down one more time, and then

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he picked his head back up and it took off,

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running straight away from me. And it had a very

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funny gait. It didn't run like a bear. I had

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a funny gait. And the best thing I could describe

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it was it ran like a chimpanzee. When I was

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a kid, we used to watch the TV show called

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Doc Try and Doc Torry had a kid panzee and cheetah,

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and we watched it as kids, and we became familiar

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with that, and that's the best way I can describe it.

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Would run again. It ran straight away from me, down

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the little knoll and then on into the timber, and

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I stood there thinking, is that thing injured? What is that?

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Was that an injured bear? And again I was just

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a kid. I didn't know. So it disappeared and I

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shrugged it off and said, I better get back to camp. Now.

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Dad's going to be waiting for me, and if I'm laid,

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I'll be in trouble. So I turned and walked back

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through the stand of timber that I'd gone through before.

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And I was just about out to the old loggy

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road and I could hear something to my left. It

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would walk when I I would walk, it would stop

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when I would stop, and I would look and look

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and look like, what is that? And I walked out

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to the road. I looked down the road both ways.

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I didn't see anything, and I turned to walk south.

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I was heading back to the hunting camp, and it

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happened again. It would walk when I would walk, it

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would stop when I would stop. So a couple of

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times I stopped really abruptly at the fool it and

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it would take a couple of steps to stop, and

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I was looking and looking. I couldn't see what it was.

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And it did this and follow me, if you will,

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off to my left for probably a couple hundred yards. Again,

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I wasn't scared. I thought, oh it bear must be

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following me. And I wasn't worried at all. I'd have

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a caring. I wasn't afraid of anything at that age.

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And as I got near to the hunting camp, I

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could hear a chain saw started up, and that was

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my dad calling me get back here. Well. Once the

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chain saw started up, I couldn't hear it anymore. I

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got back to camp, and I told my dad and

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my grandpa and uncle and the guys what I had

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seen the fox, and then this is what I thought

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was a bear, and then it was following me like that.

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And they all listened to me very intently, but they

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really didn't say anything, but I could see in their

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face like, yeah, here's a teenage boy with a wild imagination.

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But I said, I know what I saw, and I

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know what happened. And all these guys were World War two,

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Korean War in Vietnam best, all big, tall guys had

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fear of nothing, which always was comforting to me when

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I was growing up to have these guys are all

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really big guys around me. And that was the end

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of my experience. But for years I hadn't put it

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in the back of my mind. I hadn't thought about

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it at all till probably twenty years ago or so.

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My dad was telling me a story where he had

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walked down one of the ridges at our camp. He's

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very elderly now. When he was younger, he walked a lot,

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and Dad was talking about him walking down one of

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the bridges and he heard a bear bellow, Well, bears

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don't bellow. Bears don't make any noise. But that's was

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his explanation, and I didn't really who was not on

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my very much. I mean, I just say, Dad, what

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is it telling? Well, it was the bear bellow, Well,

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bears don't do that. I didn't say anything to him

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out of respect, but when he said that, it reminded

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me of that day I saw this what I thought

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was a bearer creature in the woods, and I began

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wondering what did I see? By then, if Bigfoot was

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a thing, this would have probably been two thousand and

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eight when he told me that story. And so Bigfoot

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was a thing. We were watching stories about it, the

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Patterson Gimmlin film, other films, and so I started thinking

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about my experience, and then I started thinking about what

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Dad hurt. So from there I again put it out

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of my head. I didn't think much about it. Life

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went on. I had gotten married, I had kids, I'd

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been active duty for seven years. One day I was

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spending some time with my daughter and my grandchildren, and

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my grandchild loved to hear her stories, and so I

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told them my story. And I had never told anybody

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that until probably within the last four years. I subsequently

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shared that story a couple other times, but I had

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never really told anybody, and Rachel's that My daughter said, Dad,

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you never told us about that when we were little.

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I said, well, Rachel, I kind of forgot about it

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up until Grandpa was mentioning his experience and all of

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it came flooding back to me. And it wasn't like

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I was afraid of ridicule or anything. I just life

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ad gun on for me. I hadn't thought about it

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until that time. Well, once I did, I decided I

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wasn't going to talk much about it because people are

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going to look at me funny and they're going to

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maybe ridicule. I just decided to keep it to myself.

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So I told my ha their daughter, but it happened

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to me and Grandpa's experience, and they both kind of

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looked at me kind of funny. But I said, girls,

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I know what I saw, I know what I smelled,

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I know what I heard, I know what I experienced.

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I said, I don't think that was a bear. I'm

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not sure because I couldn't see the front, but everything

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about that animal and how it ran and be following

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all these years later, I'm starting to put two and

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two together. Subsequently, I watched a number of YouTube channels

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listen to people share get their testimony, and I wonder

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what it was I saw that day back about nineteen

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seventy six or seventy seven, I'd have been fifteen at

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the time, and we knew nothing about the Gimlin film,

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Patty or these other experiences that people have even in

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the Midwest. But I do now, and I'm glad to

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share it. It's not like we getting off my chest.

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I haven't hit it. Just in the last few years.

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I thought, you know, I got to share this. I

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got to talk about this because something happened to me.

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Brett, Thank you, Thank you for sharing that.

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That is.

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A pretty rare encounter for this podcast, because we don't

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get to hear a lot about the Upper Peninsula of Michigan.

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We hear a lot of about the Pacific Northwest, other

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kind of popular states with Bigfoot, but it is pretty

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pretty special to hear something about this particular state, especially

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up in the Upper Peninsula. Do you mind if I

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ask you some questions about what you experienced that day?

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Sure?

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Awesome. The first thing would be more about the area,

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And I'm just looking at the map of Marquette County,

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and I know things that on the map might not

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have been specifically there back then. I'm not really up

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with the history about Michigan and the Upper Peninsula, but

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I do notice that there's a state forest area in

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south Marquette County. Was it around that area at all

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or no?

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No, Northern Marquette County, Okay, within a mile of Lake Superior,

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And that area that we were in is largely private land.

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To this day, it is very heavily wooded. It is

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remote and like my dad used to laugh, we could

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walk so far back in the Wizarren even any deer.

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It's not quite like that anymore, but it was then.

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Interesting. Do you think there could be to this day

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bigfoot activity up in that area.

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In our area where our hunting camp is. I don't

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know Jeremiah anymore because there's more people around, But as

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you get up towards the more northern tip of Market County,

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it's uh. In the here on mountains, that's very possible.

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It's very remote, large large shocks of private land that

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people don't get around in much because it's private, and

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it would not surprise me, and there's lakes and game

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and fish in heavily wooded it's it would not it

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would not surprise me. We have timberwolves. My brother got

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a photo of a mountain lion and west.

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Of there on Argon Cally Big for Society will be

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right back after these messages.

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That sure, you just move so you never know what

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you're gonna run too, because once you get away from

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the cities like Marquette where he got issuing, it's very

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it's still to this day very remote.

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Interesting. Now your sighting is also unique because it sounds

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like for most of the sighting, really you just saw

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a back view of the creature.

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Correct, Yeah, I was about fifty feet away. I mean

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I was fairly close, but all I could see was

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him or her down on the ground, you know, cleaning

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up the fish parts that I had in the pail.

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It was eating those. I really couldn't hear it per se,

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but I could smell them.

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Oh yeah, so it was eating the fish parts. Now,

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was it using its hands to eat the fish or

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just like you know, putting its head down there and

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chew and chound down on them.

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So there's a lot of ferns back and fern, and

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so I couldn't really tell if it was using his

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hands or just using eating when it is in his mouth.

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That's a very good question. I couldn't see. I couldn't tell.

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You also mentioned that you had called out specifically its backside,

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which is very interesting. Was there any any detail about

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the backside that really jumped out to you in your

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memory or or it was just like, man, that that's

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just really weird.

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My first thought at that age was this is a

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really big bear. I mean of this furry or hairy, dark,

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not black, and black bears aren't necessarily black either. There's

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always a little tinge of cinnamon or brown, and this

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animal had the same thing. I would say that the

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fur was probably in around four inches long. It was

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pretty thick, no tail, There was no tail or. I

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could see the muscles in its headquarters and on its flanks,

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but there were some ferns, so I couldn't see his feet.

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And if i'd have been able to see his feet,

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then I would have said, oh wow. But I could

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not see his feet. They could clearly see this animal.

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It was big, and I was not afraid. I was

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not anything. I was marveling at what I thought was

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a very big bear.

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Interesting at that time. Then whatever you saw was standing

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up on two legs, for it was.

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On force, and it ran on for it it ran

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on for and its gates and how it ran and

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all four was not like a bear I have seen.

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And I spent all my life at that time. I

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was only fifty or sixteen, and it was with my

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dad and my grandpa, and we spent a lot of

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time and seen bears and other animals, and we just

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spent a lot of our lives looking for him, looking

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at them. But that thing ran by something I hadn't

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seen before. That was remarkable.

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Now you already called out that it was very chimpanzee like.

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For those may have not seen that before. Are you

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able to describe what it's like when a chimpanzee runs.

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Like its front legs are like reaching out to grab something.

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It's back legs. It's kind of a hop, like I'm chimp,

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and see what hop? They tend to run a little sideways.

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I watched some videos since then, and when I saw

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like Cheetah on doctor Run, I watched a YouTube here

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I looked and I said, there it is. That's how

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it ran. I couldn't see the front though. I can

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only see the great big butt and watch it run

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through the brush and matt very quickly. But I could

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see its front legs like it was grabbing something, and

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I thought, that's an odd gate. And I thought, what

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if that thing is injured. It's got to hurt back

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or it's flanks or hurt or something, because it's not

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running like any bear I'd ever seen.

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Was there any tail to the what you saw?

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No? No, I couldn't see a tail. You really couldn't

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see a tail on a black bear either, But no,

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And nothing stuck out to me as remarkabout that. Just

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a very big backside.

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So when you look at you know, some some frames

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of the Patterson Gimmlin film or even if you watch it,

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you can really see the muscles, especially in the legs.

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And I'm gonna shout out my buddy Jonathan Easley for

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for pointing this out to me. You can really see

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those muscles, Ripple. Was that anything where you could see

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the muscles at all when this thing moved away from you?

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Yeah? Yeah, I could see his glutes, but you can

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see that on the bear sometimes too. I could see

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his glutes when it ran, I could see that, and

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what was do issue one of the fur on his

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flank I really got my best look at it was

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the from the back and a little bit to the left,

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but it just ran straight away through me. But yeah,

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I was close enough. I could see. I could see foods,

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you know, it's butt muscles and its legs. And again,

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at that age, Jeremiah, I thought nothing of it. I

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just thought that was another bear and it had a

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very weird gait.

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Absolutely was the whole thing covered with hair? Yeah, okay,

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what color?

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Brown? And dark? I would say black with some brown

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to it. No, I never saw some belly or its

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chest or neck or face because it was away from me.

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But what I saw was about was about I'm about

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be four inches long. I would say, thick and black,

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nearly black to brown, very dark, very very dark. I

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would say. If you asked me back in that day,

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I said that was black.

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Were there parts that you could see that had either

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worn down hair or was the hair pretty much the

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same all the way around.

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On his backside? It looked all the same to me.

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Okay, interesting, he had a funny head.

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He had a funny head. Though he picked the head

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up a couple of times that did not have the

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shape of a normal bear. It was I'm not gonna

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say it's point. People say conical. I say, yeah, kind

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of conical. But I see a lot of bear in

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my life at that point. And that was the other thing.

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I thought, well, that's kind of a funny shaped head.

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And then the way it ran for two things that

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stick out and stick out in my mind.

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Did it seem to have a neck at all that

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you could see?

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Yeah, a little bit when it ran, Yeah, when it

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ran on all four you could see the head sticking

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out from the from the shoulders a little bit, which

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were big, but the whole animal was big, but it

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had that gate or not normal.

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So getting having that viewpoint, did you were you able

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to see any ears on the head at all?

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No? No, No, that was picking up like a bear. Nope.

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And I think that would be well, I'm going to

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ask you, well, if you thinking of everything that you

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remember that day, what would you say was the number

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one detail that made you be like, oh, yeah, that

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was not a bear?

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The gate? The gate, The gate set me out Heremiah,

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and then the other little parts I thought about over

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years coming together, But it was the gate I've seen

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lots of bear. I hunted bear. This thing, this, this

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creature did not run like a Michigan black bear.

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Nope, Nope, How would How does a Michigan black bear

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usually how would they usually move in that type of situation?

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Run like a dog? Yep, run like a dog, a

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big dog.

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Also, I would think that the other, the other big

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thing for me would be that no visible ears. That is,

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that's a huge deal looking at pictures of bear like

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So I'll ask you, I mean, you usually would be

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seeing visible ears if you are dealing with an actual bear.

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Correct, you would see I'm the bigger the head, the

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smaller the ears look, but you always see that ear

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is picking up no matter what, you'll see the ears.

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And only a couple of people and my girls too.

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So Daddy, could you see any ears in that thing?

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And I had to think back and be objective about

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I mean, I'm an environmental scientist, so I'm also the

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world's biggest skeptic walking along. You got to prove things

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to me, right, and so being objective about it, running

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it through my mind said you know what I did

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not I did not see I did not see yours.

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I did not see a tail, and I just saw

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a really big.

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Butt when it was running away from you. Were you,

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at any time able to see the bottom of the

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feet at all?

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Yeah, yep. No hair, Okay, no hair. Black bears don't

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have hair in the bottom of their feet either, right.

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Do you remember any color of what the skin looked like?

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Gray? Okay, yep, because it would flash. I could see

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him running until he got about sixty yards out. Then

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it just all I could see was this big black

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thing running through the woods really fast. But yeah, when

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he took off you, I could see the bottom of him.

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But I've seen that before and again add that age.

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I was at Jeremiah at the point, was thinking it

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was just another bear, but they were gray, black bear

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feed gray depends who being walking through clay. His feet

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are going to be the color of the soils the end.

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But I was gonna stand up sugar, maple and hemlock,

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so there's nothing like that around. It's just all these

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so those feet will be fairly clean, one would think.

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But that's that's a good question, and that's that's what

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I saw a yach at.

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C Street when it was running. Was do you think

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it was able to run at the same amount of

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speed that a bear would or what did it seem

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to be faster?

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Yeah? Yeah, black bear, even a big black bear can

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run really fast. And this thing moved really fast. Would

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I say is faster than a bear? Because of the

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gate was so different than a bear, I can't judge that,

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But now I can tell you that when it took

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off running and disappeared very quickly.

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Did you see anything that made you think that the

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arms and the legs were the same length or maybe

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they wore different lengths.

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Well, I I've got to think about this second, because

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it ran with a different gate and like a chimp.

462
00:26:23.720 --> 00:26:25.799
I looked at that thing too, is there you know?

463
00:26:25.839 --> 00:26:28.039
The arm the front legs looked longer than the back,

464
00:26:28.839 --> 00:26:31.000
but then the bears can look like that. But but

465
00:26:32.039 --> 00:26:35.599
its gates is what threw me. The front legs were

466
00:26:35.640 --> 00:26:39.680
definitely longer, and I couldn't you know, make out the pause,

467
00:26:40.279 --> 00:26:42.359
but you can see when it runs, it's like it's

468
00:26:42.440 --> 00:26:45.240
reaching for something, like it's trying to grab a hold

469
00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:47.519
of the earth and pull itself forward. That's what it

470
00:26:47.559 --> 00:26:49.759
looked like. That's not what he was doing or sheet,

471
00:26:50.240 --> 00:26:51.759
but that's what it looked like to me. Like it

472
00:26:51.799 --> 00:26:54.400
was reaching out to grab bear. Doesn't run like that.

473
00:26:56.279 --> 00:26:58.440
They're not run like that. I've seen them run lots

474
00:26:58.440 --> 00:27:02.759
of times, not like that.

475
00:27:02.759 --> 00:27:06.359
That is it's extremely interesting. It'll be interesting to see

476
00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:10.240
if people reach out from that same area. Since you were,

477
00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:14.440
you know, pretty specific in explaining you know, the area

478
00:27:14.480 --> 00:27:18.519
where this happened. Thank you for doing that. Is a

479
00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:24.920
very very interesting. Now, sometimes when individuals have a sighting

480
00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:30.960
like this, it will affect or they'll start to notice

481
00:27:31.000 --> 00:27:34.039
other weird things in their life afterwards. Did you have

482
00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:37.279
anything else weird happen in your life as you grew

483
00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:38.359
up into adulthood.

484
00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:42.759
Oh, I've had a couple of weird things. But then

485
00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:45.759
I've had seven years of active duty sure overseas. It's

486
00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:49.400
been deployed twice, so there's yeah, there's plenty of weird

487
00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:52.200
things happen. Oh yeah, yeah, I have weird things happened,

488
00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:57.200
But that's probably that is in the top five of

489
00:27:57.680 --> 00:28:03.000
five of weird things that happened in his life. And

490
00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:05.559
people have said to me, oh, you saw bear, Well

491
00:28:06.279 --> 00:28:08.319
you said that to me in nineteen seventy six or

492
00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:09.960
seventy say, and I said, yeh, that's what I saw.

493
00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:12.440
But I've learned a bit, and I've become quite a

494
00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:15.519
bit older. And I'm a professing environmental scientist. I am

495
00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:22.279
a skeptic. I scrutinize, I study, I sample. That's what

496
00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:24.680
I do, Jeremiah, That's what I've done all my working

497
00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:27.720
life outside of act duty. So I can sit back

498
00:28:28.359 --> 00:28:32.480
without using imagination and recall that day what I saw,

499
00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:35.839
what I heard, and what I smelled. And somebody say

500
00:28:35.880 --> 00:28:37.799
that was a bear in me, I say, I don't

501
00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:43.960
think so. I lived long enough to say nah, I'm

502
00:28:43.960 --> 00:28:47.519
not going to fool myself into thinking that. I've been

503
00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:51.519
back to that spot many times. I was grouse hunting

504
00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:53.759
with a close friend of mine. We walked up and

505
00:28:53.799 --> 00:28:56.960
over that knoll, and I can remember that day very distinctly.

506
00:28:57.319 --> 00:29:00.960
I'm not afraid I never saw it again. I don't

507
00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:04.519
want anybody else did. I sure would like to have

508
00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:07.400
a discussion my grandpa. He's long gone now, he was

509
00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:12.319
quite elderly then, and ask Grandpa if he'd ever had

510
00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:16.440
an experience like that. Maybe he'll say so, maybe one,

511
00:29:16.599 --> 00:29:20.119
but I'll never know. He's gone now. But I would

512
00:29:20.119 --> 00:29:22.200
have loved to have that conversation with Grandpa. Do you

513
00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:24.720
remember that day and then it never happened to you

514
00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:27.519
because when he was in Michigan, it was right around

515
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:30.440
the turnith century and he grew really old and he

516
00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:32.519
had some great stories, but I never heard him tell

517
00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:33.079
him like that.

518
00:29:35.759 --> 00:29:40.960
Being an individual that has to really notice details because

519
00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:43.720
of the different things you've done over the years from

520
00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:47.279
what you were looking at that day and what you

521
00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:51.839
remember did what you saw did what you saw is

522
00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:56.440
seem more ape like or more human, or maybe something

523
00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:57.319
completely different.

524
00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:02.480
I would say the gate is what I focused on

525
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:03.799
in these recent years.

526
00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:08.279
Jeremiah Big for society will be right back. After these messages.

527
00:30:24.119 --> 00:30:27.599
Ran like like I said, like Cheetah on Doc Cary,

528
00:30:28.119 --> 00:30:31.000
And I say it that way because anybody that grew

529
00:30:31.079 --> 00:30:33.720
up when I did in the seventies, that's what you

530
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:36.279
watched on TV and it was a cool show. You

531
00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:38.440
can still find that on YouTube. And I refreshed my

532
00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:41.680
memory by looking for doctor on YouTube. Sure enough, I

533
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:44.680
find one and they'll have a you know, a clip

534
00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:48.720
of Cheetah running across a yard. And I said, my

535
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:51.240
point at it, I said, there it is, that's it

536
00:30:51.319 --> 00:30:56.559
right there, That's what I saw. Only really big on all.

537
00:30:56.480 --> 00:31:06.000
Fours when you were walking back to the others, And

538
00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:11.039
I know you heard that, you know you heard the

539
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:14.079
creature moved through the woods. What other sounds were you

540
00:31:14.200 --> 00:31:16.680
hearing that day in the woods?

541
00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:21.680
Really nothing else. The wind was calm. It had been

542
00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:23.920
very frosty, so it has to be a very still

543
00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:26.880
night to be frosty. I didn't couldn't hear anything in

544
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:30.680
the nearest county road from where I was walking was

545
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:34.799
a solid mile through up woods, and anybody that grew

546
00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:37.799
up there knows up woods's and thick woods. It blocks

547
00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:41.279
a lot of sound. And I could hear I could

548
00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:43.920
walk down the road the leaves in the road or Dad.

549
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:47.920
But walking in the woods, you snap a branch, crunchy crunch,

550
00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:51.599
That's what I could hear off on my left. And

551
00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:54.440
again it would walk when I would walk, it would

552
00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:57.480
stop when I stopped. And this is like I said,

553
00:31:57.480 --> 00:32:01.039
anyone on for probably two hundred yards as I was

554
00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:05.440
walking down this whole logan room which was dirt, there

555
00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:10.279
leaves on it. And when Dad started a chainsaw, I

556
00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:12.039
don't know if it's scared it away or what, or

557
00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:14.240
I just couldn't hear it. But it was no longer

558
00:32:14.279 --> 00:32:17.200
following me, and it probably knew there were some guys

559
00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:20.680
that camp. And again these were all really big guys,

560
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:24.759
not afraid of anything. So and I was afraid. I wasn't.

561
00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:26.960
I thought I was a bear. Chere am I figure

562
00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:29.359
this dog on taking its fallowing back to camp? See

563
00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:31.839
how close he gets? I thought, my Grandpa and I,

564
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:35.559
we'll see something happen. But it didn't. It's it quit.

565
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:41.519
Was your dad starting up the chainsaw to get you

566
00:32:41.559 --> 00:32:43.599
to come back? Was that a normal thing he would do?

567
00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:47.759
Okay, oh yeah, because he would grow a patient and

568
00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:53.359
he started remembering chainsaw. It was you know, get your

569
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:55.519
butt back here or it's going to be trouble. And

570
00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:59.400
I was already on my way. So yeah, that was

571
00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:02.160
him call on the kid back because we had work

572
00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:02.359
to do.

573
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:05.480
That's funny, I mean, yeah, it makes sense like back then,

574
00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:07.960
you wouldn't. You wouldn't have a way of you know,

575
00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:11.000
there's no electronics really out there, and you know you

576
00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:13.960
didn't have cell phone or walkie talkies or anything you

577
00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:14.799
know that works.

578
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:18.559
Definitely. Yeah, you had to watch. You had a compass

579
00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:22.000
and if you're late, you better have a good excuse.

580
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:24.119
Well I had to watching the compass, but I had

581
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:27.319
no excuse. But I got back when he when he

582
00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:31.000
fired that chainsaw. And I listened to the stories, all

583
00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:32.480
four of those four or five of those guys. You're

584
00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:34.559
all standing there, listen to me. Tell me in the

585
00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:38.079
story A fifteen year old skinny kid, my dad, six

586
00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:41.759
foot two, way over two hundred pounds, his brother, my grandpa,

587
00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:44.839
the other guys with all World War two, Korean War. Yeah,

588
00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:48.200
I BET's afraid of nothing. They listened to me, but

589
00:33:48.319 --> 00:33:50.519
you could sell. You could see the look of skepticism

590
00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:54.160
on their face, like a sure I said, I know

591
00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:57.200
what I saw, I know what I smelled, and I

592
00:33:57.240 --> 00:33:59.319
know what I heard. No one's ever going to change that,

593
00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:02.559
and to this day has not. I'm sixty two now.

594
00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:07.119
When you so, it sounded like you spent a lot

595
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:09.559
of time out there in those woods over the years.

596
00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:12.719
Did you ever hear any sounds that just did not

597
00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:16.679
really belong or that were, you know, a little weird

598
00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:17.880
or anything like that.

599
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:22.679
The only other weird thing I heard was I was

600
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:26.360
hunting bear at that same spot. Might have been a

601
00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:28.880
year later. Back then. You can get a bear permit

602
00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:31.800
over the counter in Michigan. Wow, I heard I heard

603
00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:35.199
a bobcat screech. That was the weirdest thing for me

604
00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:39.440
other than other than that. No, no tree knocks, No,

605
00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:41.760
nothing like that. I've never heard that in my life,

606
00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:44.079
and at that time I wouldn't have known it anyway.

607
00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:48.639
But nothing out of place, just just that day. And

608
00:34:48.719 --> 00:34:51.199
I've been back there before. I've hunted deer around there,

609
00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:55.039
and the guys in our camp. Gosh, this is what

610
00:34:55.199 --> 00:34:59.880
fifty years later? Almost No, And I always wonder when

611
00:34:59.920 --> 00:35:02.880
I go out there. I would love to see that again.

612
00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:05.519
I'm not afraid of it. I would love to experience

613
00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:08.639
that again. See that again. So I don't have to

614
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:11.840
ask Saint Peter at the Pearly Gates, Hey, dude, what

615
00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:13.440
did I see right?

616
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:19.199
Show me again, Saint Peter. Definitely. Yeah. You are currently

617
00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:21.880
an environmental scientist as of today.

618
00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:25.079
Yeah, yeah, for thirty four years.

619
00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:28.559
So I'm just gonna ask. I'm just going to ask.

620
00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:32.599
You can decline, you know, because of your current do

621
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:37.079
you do you have any thoughts regarding I'm sure you

622
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:42.320
have some really interesting thoughts, you know, being a environmental

623
00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:49.119
scientist about possible conservation, you know, possible. Does conservation need

624
00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:52.199
to be a thing if these are actually discovered? Or

625
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:57.320
what the implications are if you know sasquatch is discovered

626
00:35:57.320 --> 00:35:59.719
in an area someday, is that anything you might have

627
00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:01.000
any thoughts about.

628
00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:06.480
I thanks for asking that, Jam I have thought about

629
00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:11.320
that a lot. I'm not sure how much effect that

630
00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:15.360
would have in Michigan, but I'm in the Pacific Northwest,

631
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:20.000
in the Southeast, where timber products are the backbone of

632
00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:25.400
livelihoods and industry. It could have a significant impact negatively

633
00:36:25.480 --> 00:36:32.079
on the economy. I think that if we discovered they are,

634
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:35.880
they are there, and I'm not far from making up

635
00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:39.320
my mind that they are after my experience. We have

636
00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:43.039
to think about that, and there's steps of preservation that

637
00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:46.440
don't have to be so impactful to industry into livelihoods.

638
00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:49.440
But we're not talking about a spot at owl, and

639
00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:52.800
we're not talking about you know, small mammals and birds

640
00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:56.000
that we take conservation measures. For me, this is a

641
00:36:56.199 --> 00:37:00.159
big animal. This thing is big in these areas is

642
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:07.360
ranged eat. So when scientists and industry and legislature come

643
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:10.599
together on deciding what are we gonna do about this now,

644
00:37:11.400 --> 00:37:13.519
it'll be interesting to see what they come up with.

645
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:17.159
If industry is gonna have a lot to say about it,

646
00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:24.360
very very strong political action committees lobbyists that are gonna

647
00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:27.719
lesson want to lessen the blow to industry once we

648
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:30.079
find these things are exactly what we think they are.

649
00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:35.840
It's I don't know what will happen. It'll be you

650
00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:37.400
need to do. I think that they need to be

651
00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:40.960
protected just like any other of God's creatures. We need

652
00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:43.559
to need to protect that. If someone needs to defend

653
00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:47.039
themselves like I would, I'm I'm not going down. No,

654
00:37:48.199 --> 00:37:50.920
I'm not going down and knowing anyone else for that matter.

655
00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:56.320
But that is a really interesting question how industry and

656
00:37:56.360 --> 00:37:59.280
the legislature would come together to come up with them

657
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:03.880
preservation plan, protection plan or something for a bigfoot.

658
00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:07.559
Yeah, it's it's such an interesting thing because if you

659
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:11.079
if you look at the big picture over the years,

660
00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:17.000
every now and then another county will pop up with, hey,

661
00:38:18.199 --> 00:38:21.719
don't if you see a bigfoot, don't shoot it or

662
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:24.559
you'll get a fine, or you know, they'll be these

663
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:28.320
these different they'll they'll be these these things that won't

664
00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:30.920
be a fun time if you do take action against it.

665
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:34.679
And it's just it's interesting how maybe it's more of

666
00:38:34.719 --> 00:38:38.760
a kind of a slow burn. I mean, this is

667
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:42.880
just me talking but maybe slow Burn preparing for something

668
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:44.800
that might be coming out in the future. Who knows.

669
00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:47.480
You know, it's there's people that reach out to me,

670
00:38:47.639 --> 00:38:50.960
like you know, park rangers and forestry workers do reach

671
00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:53.760
out to me. They don't they don't really come on

672
00:38:53.800 --> 00:38:57.519
the show. But you know, if those individuals did start

673
00:38:57.519 --> 00:38:59.960
to come on the show, there could be some real

674
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:02.719
solid information that starts to get put out there.

675
00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:07.599
So I'm a good friend of mine that frequents Kentucky

676
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:10.880
as friends there. He lives in Michigan. He grew up

677
00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:12.800
a mile from me, and it's been in those same

678
00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:17.960
woods with me, and he he was he was a lifer.

679
00:39:18.280 --> 00:39:21.280
His whole career was after Judy the Army. His friends

680
00:39:21.320 --> 00:39:24.480
in Kentucky near Fort Knox. He travels down there to

681
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:26.960
see them to get away from winter, and they like

682
00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:30.280
to go Cavis, foreigner, speelunking, whatever you call it. And

683
00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:33.519
he came back one year and I said, hey, how

684
00:39:33.559 --> 00:39:35.920
was your trip on? I was great, But we got

685
00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:37.599
to a camp around one of the caves in a park.

686
00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:41.079
Ranger I was telling us about Bigfoot said, what what

687
00:39:41.119 --> 00:39:45.000
are you talking about? He said, yeah, you guys, might

688
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:47.119
I want to park here? Somebody saw one and the

689
00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:49.920
ranger was telling both things, and Tom said, he looked

690
00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:53.719
at ranger square in the eye and he said, sir,

691
00:39:53.840 --> 00:39:58.199
I have a combat vet, I am former army and

692
00:39:59.840 --> 00:40:03.760
you you've got me worried now for him to say

693
00:40:03.800 --> 00:40:06.840
that there's something to be worried about. And the ranger said,

694
00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:09.599
I'm just telling you what we were told. And they

695
00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:13.000
did not camp there. His decision and their decision was

696
00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:16.159
and their crew their jeepers was yeah, maybe we'll go

697
00:40:16.239 --> 00:40:16.639
to town.

698
00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:20.800
So wow, And that was Kentucky.

699
00:40:20.920 --> 00:40:26.440
He said, yeah. And he's a combat vet, sixteen years

700
00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:30.320
active duty National Guard, deployed all around the world. He's

701
00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:32.719
got two other buddies. It's the same thing, and they're

702
00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:35.239
all looking at each other with given this guy kind

703
00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:37.920
of Harry eyeball. But it's come from a ranger, so

704
00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:43.000
that means something. And they took us out, he said, Brett,

705
00:40:43.320 --> 00:40:45.519
I said, well, what did you do? We got in

706
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:47.840
the car and we left. I said, well, I'm sure

707
00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:52.639
that ranger understands the economic impact telling people those kind

708
00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:56.320
of things because you left. But the word gets around.

709
00:40:56.639 --> 00:40:59.599
We were all connected now in the internet email. Yeah,

710
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:02.880
and I'm not the only guy. He told that story too,

711
00:41:03.480 --> 00:41:05.719
But he's just looking at me and shaking his head.

712
00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:08.719
I've never told him my story. Tom's never heard me

713
00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:13.000
tell my story ever, never, ever, But yet he had

714
00:41:13.000 --> 00:41:14.920
one of his own. No, he didn't get to see it.

715
00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:17.800
It was second hand from a park ranger. But it

716
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:20.880
was enough for him and his buddies and their families

717
00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:21.840
to go somepce else.

718
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:26.960
That's wild. I wonder if that was around the Mammoth

719
00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:27.840
Cave area.

720
00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:33.480
That exactly, That is exactly where it was.

721
00:41:33.719 --> 00:41:35.920
Man, you do this for five years and you start

722
00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:39.000
to get really good at guessing. Yeah, that's wild.

723
00:41:41.079 --> 00:41:44.400
Yeah, that was what Tom said. And I don't talk

724
00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:47.320
to Tom much anymore. He was far away, but yeah,

725
00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:49.199
it was a mammoth caves and and that was one

726
00:41:49.239 --> 00:41:51.920
of their favorite things to do all year long, was

727
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:55.480
the jeep over there and hike and ste long and

728
00:41:55.719 --> 00:41:58.679
you do what you're allowed to do. But after that occasion,

729
00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:02.039
I don't think he's there went back. That sucks for

730
00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:04.039
a camp at park service.

731
00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:09.320
But yeah, did you say that was just a few

732
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:11.000
years ago, you said.

733
00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:15.760
Or within the last four years? Oh? Man, kay, in

734
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:19.159
the last four or five years. That was his experience.

735
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:22.320
And I said, and he's a very curious fellow. I'm

736
00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:26.000
afraid of Zeo, And I said, you didn't plan out,

737
00:42:26.039 --> 00:42:28.800
you didn't want to stay and find it yourself. When

738
00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:31.599
the park ranger trol of sat, he said, thank you.

739
00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:36.000
We are home, back to whatever town that they were in.

740
00:42:36.119 --> 00:42:39.800
You didn't understand guys like that. They're not afraid of anything,

741
00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:43.199
deserts form Afghanistan. They've been through a lot of stuff.

742
00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:47.239
But he did. He he went home.

743
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:56.000
M extremely interesting man, Brett. Thank you so much for

744
00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:58.760
for hanging out with me tonight and and for sharing it.

745
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:03.840
He really interesting. There's not many accounts where it's just

746
00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:06.920
this viewpoint of the creature that I've taken, So this

747
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:09.320
is a very very interesting one. I'm glad you came

748
00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:13.639
on the show tonight to share what you experienced that day.

749
00:43:15.559 --> 00:43:18.719
I appreciate the opportunity. I've told this story a couple

750
00:43:18.840 --> 00:43:22.440
other times, and every time I tell it, I start

751
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:24.360
to remember a couple of things. The question you had

752
00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:27.480
about the ears, I hadn't thought about that much, but

753
00:43:27.599 --> 00:43:30.280
I have a vivid memory in my mind what I

754
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:33.400
saw and the feats, and so you joggle a couple

755
00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:36.079
of things in my mind. Jeremi that were details I

756
00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:37.719
hadn't thought of in a long time, not that I

757
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:41.159
gossed over, just no one ever asked me, and I

758
00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:43.079
didn't have to think about it, right I am.

759
00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:47.559
Now there you go. Well, if anything else, you know,

760
00:43:47.639 --> 00:43:51.039
if you ever come across anything else out there, feel

761
00:43:51.039 --> 00:43:54.519
free to reach out Brett. But I appreciate you coming on.

762
00:43:54.639 --> 00:44:00.239
Thank you so much, great, thanks for the opportunity.

763
00:44:03.480 --> 00:44:05.280
Just want to take a few minutes to say thank

764
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