April 15, 2026

A Marine’s 3 Bigfoot Encounters… Including One Caught on Camera!

A Marine’s 3 Bigfoot Encounters… Including One Caught on Camera!
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Season 1

In this episode, we hear from Jay, a Colorado native and former U.S. Marine, whose life has been shaped by multiple encounters with something she cannot explain. Her experiences begin in the wide-open ranchlands of southern Colorado, where as a child she came face to face with a massive, shadow-black figure that moved with speed and purpose unlike any animal she had ever seen.



Years later, during Marine combat training in North Carolina, that same presence returns. While standing guard in the middle of the night, Jay watches as a towering figure remains just beyond the fence line for hours—silent, unmoving, and fully aware. No sound. No movement. Just something standing in the darkness, observing.



Then in 2019, during a hiking trip through Mesa Verde National Park, a growing sense of unease follows her every step. Nothing is seen in the moment, yet something feels off the entire time. It isn’t until years later, while reviewing photos from that day, that the full picture begins to emerge. Shapes appear where nothing should be. A figure peeks from behind a tree. Another stands across a canyon. One image suggests something even more unsettling—these things were far closer to the trail than anyone realized.



These encounters span childhood, military service, and family life, unfolding across remote ranchland, active training grounds, and one of America’s most visited national parks. Each moment adds another layer to a story that refuses to fade.



If you’ve ever wondered how close these encounters can get, this is one you need to hear.


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You're listening to Bigfoot Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us. All right, Welcome back to Bigfoot Society.

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We have another episode for you today. I'll be talking

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to individual named Jay. Some information about Jay is native

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of Colorado. Jay also served as the United States Marine

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from the years two thousand and eight to twenty twelve.

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Thank you for your service for that definitely in Jay,

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Welcome to the show. How are you doing today, I'm

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doing well. Thanks fantastic. This is going to be I

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know a little bit about where we're going and it

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is going to get really interesting, I think. But you know,

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it is always always a fun interview when we're able

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to talk to individuals that served in our military and

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how they're able to come forward and to share encounters

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that they had. So thank you so much for that.

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Is there anything else that the listeners would need to

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know about you before we get right into what you've experienced.

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No, I think that pretty much covers it fantastic.

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Well, Jay, I know that we have three different main

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encounters that we'll be talking about today, So you'll feel

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free to take us back to the one you would

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like to start with, and I'll let you share that

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and then we'll talk about it a little bit and

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then we'll continue on down the line.

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Okay, sounds good. So the first encounter happened in the

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late nineteen nineties, around the age of twelve or so.

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I lived mainly in the city areas of Colorado up north,

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so I didn't really have a whole lot of time

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during the year to go down and really be in

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the wilderness. So whenever I could, I would go visit

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my grandparents, and they lived out in the southern part

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of the state in a kind of a really rural

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area where they had a ranch, and on this ranch,

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pretty much any wild animal you can think of and

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associated with Colorado that's what we had down there, pignon

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junipers and prairie grass plains and all sorts of different

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cactus and brush and various different foliage, but nothing that

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I would have struck me as habitat for a bigfoot.

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So I spent a lot of my time during school

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breaks and any kind of vacation time that we had

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going down there and just kind of exploring the area.

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There wasn't a whole lot else to do but to

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go out and really just be in nature, and so

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on one particular visit, I had been cruising around on

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a four wheeler and had actually gone over to a

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family's house to have dinner, and we had been there

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for several hours, and so about the time that everyone

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started to leave, I was a little bit behind everyone else.

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It was later in the evening, around time thirty at night,

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and couldn't have been better conditions. It was still not

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too cold, not too warm, probably somewhere around May when

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this all happened, and I hopped on the four wheeler

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because I had to take it back to the shop

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where it was supposed to be in Going from my

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aunt and uncle's house down to the ranch house where

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we had been staying, you have to go along a

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pretty Kirby road. The initial part of it is very wooded,

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has a lot of pinon junipers all lining the stretch

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of road for about a mile, and then it really

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opens up and you get into more of the pasture

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area where you just have kind of speckles of the

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different foliage and everything, but nothing too dense. And so

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I had gotten past the really dense parts of that

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road and everything was pretty visible. There was a full

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moon out, and didn't see anything. Didn't no animals, no,

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no weird feelings, no anything for this one particular stretch

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of the road. But then when you go about another

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mile or so, I came to a point where I

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had this overwhelming feeling like something was wishing death upon me,

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like I had absolute dread, absolute fear, could not think straight,

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was almost in a panic, looking every direction, trying to

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figure out what it was that I was suddenly experiencing

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this one particular road. There's there's not really a whole

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lot around it. There were some pinon Jennifer's right off

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to the side about half a mile ahead of me,

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but everything else was pretty far spread apart, and I

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couldn't see anything and so as I'm traveling along this road,

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I'm thinking in my head of anything like I need

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divine intervene or something, because whatever this is, it means

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me harm. And so I continue on cautiously but at

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full speed, trying to get through this stretch of road.

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And I start to go past these pinon junipers. And

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I didn't see anything when I was initially passing them.

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Nothing stuck out, no I shine, no nothing. But as

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I drove past them, I saw motion from behind me.

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So I turned to look, and outstepped this giant black

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figure and it took about two steps to where you

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could actually see the bend of the knee as it

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was making the steps up onto the road area. When

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it got to about the stretch of the road, it

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sprang forward, got down on all fours across the road,

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and took off across this pasture. And this pasture wasn't

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a small pasture. It should have taken anything at least

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a minute to get across, and this thing was. It

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cleared it in seconds. It was pitch black, ginormous. I've

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seen bear running down there. I've seen mountain lions, I've

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seen elk and deer and any of the bigger game

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animals that we could have had down there, that this

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could have been. And this was unlike anything I had

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seen before. It had a very unusual run when it

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ran to the closest thing I could wrap my head

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around is if you took a jack rabbit and a

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greyhound and you meshed their movements together. That was kind

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of what I saw. But even then that's barely hitting

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the mark. Absolutely terrifying and definitely changed how I interacted

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down there.

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That I can't imagine seeing that. I mean, your age

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is around twelve, from what you said before, that is

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some wild, wild stuff. How tall would you estimate that

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it was?

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It had to have been probably around seven There's trees

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down there, I mean they can get fairly big, but

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these ones off the side of the road were probably

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about maybe eight c and it blended in right along

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with them.

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So I want to make sure that I have the

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right way of imagining off of what you said. So

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it came up to the road, but it is it

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that's I'm imagining, Like when you see like not to

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say that's what it is, but like when you see

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a large cat like spring, it's like on all fours

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it springs across something. So was it like it was

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like it.

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Was diving across got it?

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Okay?

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So it went from these bushes. It took about, like

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I said, two steps, and when it took those two steps,

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you could see the knee come up on each of

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the legs. But when it got to the edge of

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the road, that's when it kind of sprang forward, like

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launched itself forward over the road. And I want to

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say it would have been the front hands, pause, whatever

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you want to call it, were the thing that touched

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ground first and then it took off from there.

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You said it was a full moon. Was there anything?

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Sometimes people report seeing specific weird things to do with

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the eyes when it's a nighttime encounter. Did you notice

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anything specific about the eyes?

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I noticed nothing. It caught me completely off guard.

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How long would you say the entire encounter.

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Took maybe thirty seconds before before it was too far

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for me to really see anything.

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And so let's see thirty seconds in all. What about

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the amount of time from when you see it take

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two steps and then up to the road and then

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spring across the road.

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Oh man, I am I mean that didn't take very

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long at all, because, like I said, theos were right

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off the side of the road, So you I mean

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this thing is it had quite the gay on it.

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So maybe another ten fifteen seconds gotcha?

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Okay? And then how far away from you was this

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what you saw again as it it sprang across the road?

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No more than ten feet?

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Oh man, I don't know how you got through that

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as a twelve year old. That is absolutely intense. In

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that short amount of time, were you able to see

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any any details that would have given you clues as

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to you know, I'm thinking maybe anything about that the

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hands or the arms or head shape.

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Nothing specifically about the upper body. The main things that

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stuck out to me were the bend in the knee

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and the color of it. The color of this thing

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was as if like the all the shadows around it

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were just being absorbed by it.

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I've heard that, I've heard similar to that from some

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Oregon encounters. That is just the just pitch black. Yeah, absorbing,

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That's that's a good way to put it. So what

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happened after you know, you're you're out on the four

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wheel or you're twelve years old and then you have

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this this life changing thing happened to you? What happened

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after that.

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Well, I mean that day was kind of the end

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of my exploring out outdoors in terms of of just

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feeling like I could go anywhere and not really have

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to worry because I, you know, I had always been

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taught about certain things to look out for, like look

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out for these tracks, or look out for this scat

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or you know, but nothing, nothing prepared me for anything

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like this, So I had no frame of reference at

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that time, Like Bigfoot was not even in my repertoire

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at that time, so I I couldn't feel I couldn't

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go out anymore, especially at night time, even even if

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it was just out in the front yard with the

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light there, I would feel uncomfortable. I to this day,

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I won't even drive down there at night with my

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windows rolled down in my car or be outside if

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I don't have a big group of people, I just

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it's too much.

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I can understand how it would definitely affect you like that.

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How long was it before you told someone else what

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you had experienced?

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Probably my mid twenties. Okay, Like I said, I didn't

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have any frame of reference for this, so for me,

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I guess I kind of they had been having a

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bunch of weird activity down there at that ranch house anyway.

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So I kind of just jumbled it all into that

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realm of like paranormal type stuff, and I almost thought like, Okay,

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this is something demonic because of how it made me feel.

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So I just kind of threw it in that basket

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because I, like I said, I didn't have any reference

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of Bigfoot. It wasn't something that people in my circle

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were talking about. People in my family like, I didn't

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you know this was before you could you a YouTube

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search or our Google search. I don't know that ask

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Jeeves really knew much about Bigfoot back then either.

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So right, it's a great point. There was not a

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lot of Bigfoot information on on accessible. I mean you

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would have had there be books in libraries and things

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of that nature, would be hard to get the information

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as as opposed to today where it's easy now. So

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you didn't talk about it until you were twenty. Were

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you ever able to have a conversation with the relatives

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that were from that area about what you experienced that day?

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Not with those relatives in particular. I have had conversations

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with my mother about it, because she grew up down

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on that ranch till about I think seventy three is

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when she was out of there, so she spent quite

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some time between the nineteen fifties and the nineteen seventies.

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Okay, what was her reaction when you told her what

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you experienced that night?

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She wasn't surprised at something like that could be down there.

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She never beyond the feelings of being watched at times.

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She never experienced anything herself, and so for her it

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was kind of a little bit of a surprise, but

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not too much, not out of the realm of possibility,

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but definitely not something that was on her radar either.

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And what a way to get introduced to the subject.

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How did this then affect you? Sometimes people, you know,

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they experience something like this and they launched into trying

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to figure out what it was or did it just

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you know, you said you were very, very apprehensive about

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going back to that area and really how you handled

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yourself outside.

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So I didn't dive into anything because, like I said,

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you know, I didn't really know what exactly I was facing,

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Like a right, I figured it was paranormal in some way,

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shape or form, or you know, That's what my mind

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kind of jumped to at the time, but I kind

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of just put it in the back of my mind

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with anything else that had ever happened down there, and

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just kind of moved forward. I would still go down

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and visit, but I would definitely, you know, change up

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my behaviors a little bit. I wouldn't walk as far

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as I normally would. I wouldn't go to to more

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of the wooded areas to go play or or do

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fe willing in more of the wooded areas, and I

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would definitely wouldn't go out at night. So it changed

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how I existed down there, but it didn't change my

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love for the area.

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If that makes sense, No, it absolutely does. You maybe

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you know, if I'm trying to put myself in that situation,

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I think I would. I would definitely be treating it.

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I'd be more apprehensive. I would maybe you just be

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aware that there's something else out there that you hadn't

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been told about as a younger child, and I think

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now I would be there would be a respect and

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definitely watching my back from here there on it. But yeah,

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there was pretty wild stuff.

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There was definitely one feeling of like I had always

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been told about the different animals and what to look

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out for so the fact that I wasn't told of

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anything in particular to that match this description. That also

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was kind of like an isolating feeling because then you know, okay,

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and what is it that I saw? Then?

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So do you remember in the years since then, was

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there let's say, maybe a book you read or something

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that you watched that made you realize, okay, what I

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experienced that night that could have been this thing that

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we're calling Bigfoot.

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It was actually the second encounter that did.

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Okay, all right, well, I think if you're good to go,

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I think that might be a good time to move

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into the second encounter then, okay.

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So the second kounter happened in May of two thousand

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and eight. At the time, I was a Brand News

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Banking marine. I was in marine combat training at Camp Geiger,

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and marine combat training is kind of like a continuation

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of boot camp where they kind of fine tune certain

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aspects of your training, where it's you're learning how to

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do various combat tactics, if you will. And one of

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the things that you had to do was you had

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to stand guard so that you could learn how to

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really perform those duties in case you did actually encounter

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something in your career, and so we had what was

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called a battle buddy at the time, which was basically

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another marine that you were assigned to kind of stick

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close to. And so my battle buddy and I we

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got assigned to a night guard duty and we got

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taken to this area. I have no idea exactly where

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on this base it was. We were kind of in

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a filled type position at the time, and so it

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was just rows of Quantt huts. You had one dirt

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road that would lead between the two Quantitt huts, and

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then on either side you had like maybe like a

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light or something not quite like a light pole. So

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you had one rode quants it hurt another road quantit

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hats and rode in between dirt road that dead ended

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at a fence that had constantina wire and then there

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was like a little mechanical shed at the very end

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of this which I assumed controlled all the lights. And

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so we were the second to the last ones that

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had just before that fence right underneath the spotlight, and

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I had to stay there all night. I don't remember

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exactly when we got there, but it was later in

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the evening as things were starting to get darker and

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everything seemed to be going pretty well. There hadn't really

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been any anything. There weren't any animals, there weren't any people.

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It was a very kind of remote location in terms

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of where all the other stuff was happening, and so

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we were kind of just standing there quietly, didn't have

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cell phones, didn't have anything like that to distract us,

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just us and our rifles and and all these these buildings,

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and somewhere around probably twelve thirty, I kind of just

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started getting this feeling like we were being watched. So

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I was looking around, trying not to make it obvious

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that I was really, you know, zoning in on things,

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because I thought initially there, you know, was one of

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our instructors coming to mess with us. And so I

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started scanning everything, and I couldn't really see anything along

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the gate area, or not the gate area, but the

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fence area. Didn't see anything around the quoncert huts and everything,

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and so I kind of just zoned off into the woodline,

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which was just outside of this fenced area. What I

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saw was basically like a figure very similar like to

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the first encounter, where it was that same kind of

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like black that just absorbs everything around it and it

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was just slightly darker than the shaded areas around the

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tree line that it was standing in, but it was

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standing in just past like the first row of trees.

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It didn't move beyond so I take it back. It

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moved ever so slightly when I first saw it, and

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that's kind of what alerted me to its presence. But

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beyond that, it just stood there and it watched. Didn't

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see any any eyeshine, didn't see anything super crazy. I

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could make out like more of the bipedal figure this time.

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I could make out kind of like the actual frame

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of a head and a shoulders, but couldn't see really

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any detail, and so I just kind of kept it

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in my view, but I didn't really let on to

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the fact that I had seen it. Or somewhere within

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I think maybe a couple hours, I noticed it just

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kind of like start to fade back into the background.

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And it just did that ever so slightly. You just

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noticed that it would get further and further back, but

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it wouldn't really move beyond that until it was completely

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out of view. And then maybe about two hours later

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is when the sun came up. And that's about the

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extent of that one Okay.

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So that is that's some really interesting stuff. Would you

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say the distance was from where you were at to

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where it was standing in the tree line.

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Somewhere between twenty and thirty feet, because I think we

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had one quantit hit between us and then the fence line,

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and from the fence line to where the tray line

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was was probably another.

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Ten feet, all right. And it sounded like you were

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able to see it there for a few hours, oh man.

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And it didn't seem you know, it didn't seem threatening

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or anything like that. I got more of like just

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like it was bored or curious and it was just

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watching to see what, you know, these two people were doing.

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What would you say, were there any giveaways that or

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details you notice that that told you, Okay, I'm looking

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at something different and this isn't just another marine that's

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spying on us and making sure that the new recruits

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are doing what they're supposed.

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To be doing. There were a couple things. So one

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the area, it would have been kind of a difficult

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area for them to get to. I mean, North Carolina

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has a lot of dense forest area to begin with,

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so being in that kind of environment and that close

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to a military base in general, would probably you know,

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be not be impossible, but it would be quite a

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difficult task to go and really be fun detected by

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powers higher than me, I imagine. But two is the

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size because those are also not small trees. I mean,

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it was much different than opinion on juniper. Those those

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are fairly small compared to you like the tree height

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that you can get in North Carolina. And with that,

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I mean you could tell that it was close to

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the branch height of these taller trees. I wouldn't say

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it wasn't like high up into the canopy, but it

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definitely was blending right along with the trunk to the

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lower branches of these things.

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Would you be able to try to put a number

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to what you think the height would be of it?

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Mmm? Probably about eight eight maybe?

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Okay, gotcha? And then you'd mentioned that you could see,

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you know, like the frame of the head and the shoulders.

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Were you able to tell anything about like the shape

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of the head at all?

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The shoulders and the head all seemed to kind of

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go in like together, they didn't. There didn't seem to

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be a whole lot of definition. So devoid of a neck,

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I guess is what you could say as far as

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like if there was a round head or a conical

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head or anything like that. I couldn't really tell you

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based just because of how the leaves and the tree

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and the shadows kind of like fell on everything.

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Gotcha, how about this, Let's say you're trying to put

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an estimate on how heavy it was or could you

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notice anything about the type of a frame it had? Overall?

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It was extremely bulky, because my initial thought when I

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saw this figure was Okay, you know, this is just

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some instructor that's going to be messing with this. But

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the more I looked at it, the more I realized

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that the size didn't match, because I mean, you have

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some marines that are pretty bulky in their size, but

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this was, particularly the width of the shoulders seemed completely

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out of the realm of human possibility, if you will.

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It's it's really hard to say, because part of the

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frame was along in that that tree area, and it

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was only you know, I could only see so much

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between the shadows and the trees, because like I said,

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it was standing within that first row of trees.

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How wide across? Would you would you think that the shoulders.

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Were oh, four four feet easy.

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Yeah, okay, that's wild stuff. Oh yeah.

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And the other thing too, is the next day nobody

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said anything to us. Was that. So that was a

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big kind of like question mark on there, because you know,

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if it had been an instructor or something, I would

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have expected to have my butt handed to me, Like

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how come you didn't? Uh, how come you didn't say anything?

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How come you didn't you know, interact with this figure

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you saw? Ah, because we like I said, I didn't

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tell my battle buddy anything that I was seeing. But

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the next day I nobody came to debrief, nobody came

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to like question me, nothing like that. It was just

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like I saw something and no one else in the

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world knew about it.

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Okay. Now, during those hours that you were noticing this

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and watching it, did you at any time hear any

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sound from that area?

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No? No, no sound?

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Oh wow, so completely quiet the whole time.

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Yeah, and I'm talking like, no, no insects, no animals,

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no nothing.

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Okay. So that is definitely, uh, that's extremely interesting. And

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so I'll reframe my question in a minute a different way,

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but that is really good to know. So you're not

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you're not hearing any environment environmental sound Uh did that?

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Was that what it was like the whole time or

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did that kick in at a certain time during that night.

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The whole time, well, I mean the whole time of

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the encounter. I want to say that I don't remember

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any animals during that time, but there were definitely bugs

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at one point, but I don't remember there being any

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sort of sound during this this timeframe.

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Okay, gotcha. So let's pretend that you're in that area

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and that you have your eyes closed and so you're

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just using your ears. There would be nothing that you're

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hearing from that area that would tell you there's something

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over in that tree line, right. Wow, Okay, so that

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that's pretty freaky. I mean, you're seeing something that you're

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estimating to be eight feet tall, four feet across at

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the shoulders, and not making a sound of any kind

467
00:32:59.359 --> 00:32:59.799
for hours.

468
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:04.839
Thing not not a tree break, not leaves crunching, nothing.

469
00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:09.039
I The only thing that tipped me off to there

470
00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:12.640
being something was feeling like something was watching us.

471
00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:17.440
My goodness. Did you ever have a conversation with your

472
00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:19.680
battle buddy after this about what happened?

473
00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:25.319
No? No, we weren't on the best of terms, so

474
00:33:25.400 --> 00:33:27.200
we didn't talk more than what we had to.

475
00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:33.039
So I got you, I got it. That's wild, though,

476
00:33:33.079 --> 00:33:35.200
if you think about it, there's someone out there that

477
00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:39.640
to this day have no idea that during training there

478
00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:42.759
is a big foot right there. Can you imagine like

479
00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:44.559
what would happen if and I don't know if you

480
00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:46.640
guys would have had weapons on you at all, but

481
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:49.519
like what would happen if you started, you know, shooting

482
00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:53.599
weapons towards that direction? I mean, it could have been terrible.

483
00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:57.799
You know, I wonder sometimes how much the weapons actually

484
00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:01.200
played into it, because we did have M sixteen at

485
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:03.799
that time. They weren't allowing us to have them loaded,

486
00:34:04.839 --> 00:34:07.920
but obviously this thing wouldn't have known that, so we

487
00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:12.519
did have them on our persons. But so I kind

488
00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:16.400
of wonder between you know, I don't really think the

489
00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:18.800
fence would have been much of an obstacle, but between

490
00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:21.719
us and the weapons, there being two of us and

491
00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:26.679
essentially being armed, if that was like if that changed

492
00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:28.760
how the interaction went down, or if it would have

493
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:31.800
been a completely different interaction had it not been the case.

494
00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:35.199
Because there again, we were both females as well.

495
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:41.000
So and that's actually half a second before you said that,

496
00:34:41.039 --> 00:34:43.280
I was like another thing is they're both females too,

497
00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:45.880
and I wonder, you know, sometimes that does play, it

498
00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:50.039
actually plays. I think it plays a ton into encounters

499
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:53.599
if there are females present. And that's a whole discussion

500
00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:58.000
in itself. Did the topic of bigfoot or anything else

501
00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:00.800
is strange like that other crypto it's ever come up

502
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:03.639
during your training at that camp?

503
00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:08.559
Yeah, okay, No, we didn't hear anything. We didn't get

504
00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:10.840
any sort of brief about any kind of animals or

505
00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:14.199
anything like that. And that's not even you know, suspicious

506
00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:18.760
animals that could have been like coyotes for instance. They

507
00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:20.880
didn't have any sort of briefing for us on any

508
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:24.199
kind of animals. I guess, you know, they assumed that

509
00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:26.639
we were in the fence, so we were good.

510
00:35:26.679 --> 00:35:27.079
I don't know.

511
00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:33.119
But which is another good point. All this happened within

512
00:35:33.880 --> 00:35:39.000
the fenced in area of this marine training camp. Correct.

513
00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:41.679
Now, we were in the fence line, but it was

514
00:35:42.039 --> 00:35:45.000
ten feet outside, at least ten feet outside of the

515
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:45.679
fence line.

516
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:48.960
Thank you, thank you. That that makes a huge difference. Okay,

517
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:52.639
so you're inside the fence, but it is watching you

518
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:55.559
from the outside of the fence forever. Oh my goodness.

519
00:35:55.559 --> 00:35:56.559
That is so wild.

520
00:35:57.599 --> 00:36:00.840
Yeah, for at least a couple hours it was watching

521
00:36:01.320 --> 00:36:04.840
like I wasn't you know, I wasn't checking my watch

522
00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:07.840
regularly or anything. But I do remember at some point

523
00:36:08.039 --> 00:36:10.400
before this all started, I had looked down at my

524
00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:12.599
watch and it was past midnight, So I can tell

525
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:14.639
you that much. You know, it was past midnight and

526
00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:16.679
it was before the sun came up by at least

527
00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:20.840
a couple hours. But for the vast majority of the time,

528
00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:23.480
this thing was just chilling in the forest line watching

529
00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:24.920
this man.

530
00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:28.079
It makes you wonder, like, what is what is going

531
00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:31.199
on on the big Foot side there? Is it like

532
00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:36.000
they're they're watching they feel like they're watching something at

533
00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:37.840
the zoo or like I mean, if you look at

534
00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:40.960
the map in this area, there's a ton of forests

535
00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:42.639
around this area too.

536
00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:47.719
Yeah, it is extremely dem Yeah, a lot a lot

537
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:51.840
of forest, plenty of wildlife and waterways. I mean we

538
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:54.119
would have wildlife on the bases all the time, like

539
00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:58.519
in Le June, and the waterways would go all the

540
00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:02.400
way through there. I mean you you had every sort

541
00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:06.360
of different thing from like little creeks to like an ocean.

542
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:13.440
So absolutely, and yeah, that's a important detail. This is

543
00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:17.760
definitely when people think North Carolina, I think they're thinking

544
00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:20.400
over by Asheville, but I mean you're over by the

545
00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:22.840
Atlantic Ocean pretty much in this situation.

546
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:25.400
Yeah, we're right off the coast there.

547
00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:27.880
Yeah, so that is an important thing. Now, how did

548
00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:34.719
this you know you have this experience? Did you know

549
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:37.679
right away? Did you have a feeling like, Okay, what

550
00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:40.119
I'm seeing this is a big foot? Or did it

551
00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:43.079
take some time for you to also make the connection

552
00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:45.960
of what I experienced that night was was probably a

553
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:46.519
big fun.

554
00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:49.039
So it took me a little bit of time. But

555
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:51.199
that was also around the time when they had like

556
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:55.320
monster quests coming out with like their their Bigfoot episodes.

557
00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:58.599
So yeah, I remember watching that and kind of like

558
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:02.199
it wasn't I think when it aired on TV, but

559
00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:04.239
it was like you could go back and watch it

560
00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:07.639
on like Verizon had a thing on your phone where

561
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:10.840
you could watch certain TV episodes or something, and that

562
00:38:11.000 --> 00:38:14.039
was like the cool new feature. And so I remember

563
00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:18.639
watching something about Bigfoot on there and kind of being like, huh, okay,

564
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:23.239
so that would make sense because that's what I saw,

565
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:25.639
or at least that looks a heck of a lot

566
00:38:25.719 --> 00:38:29.559
like what I saw and then of course that sighting

567
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:32.880
too was also like, well, that seems very similar to

568
00:38:32.920 --> 00:38:34.840
the thing that I saw when I was twelve. So

569
00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:38.280
that's when like the puzzle pieces started to really connect.

570
00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:46.000
Totally totally got it. And then for future listeners, she

571
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:49.760
is talking about the original run with Doug Hicheck, just

572
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:55.719
so people are clear on that, and that's that's extremely interesting.

573
00:38:55.679 --> 00:39:00.440
And that was only your you said your second encounter, right, yes,

574
00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:05.079
Oh my goodness, okay, so let's see so that that

575
00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:08.880
was two thousand and eight. You are, let's see, so

576
00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:15.119
you're probably in your thirties at that time. I would

577
00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:18.679
guess no, I was.

578
00:39:18.920 --> 00:39:20.920
Oh so I take it back. So the first encounter

579
00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:24.920
actually would have been I said late nineties, but it

580
00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:27.239
would have been early two thousands, so it probably would

581
00:39:27.239 --> 00:39:29.679
have been like two thousand and one, two thousand and two. Okay,

582
00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:33.320
so at that time I was about eighteen for the

583
00:39:33.360 --> 00:39:34.079
second encounter.

584
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:42.599
Oh okay, cool, Sorry, that's that's cool. Okay. So all right,

585
00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:47.079
so then yeah, let's let's move on to your third

586
00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:48.039
experience then.

587
00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:55.239
Okay, So my third experience, So my husband and I

588
00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:58.000
were celebrating our first wedding anniversary and this was in

589
00:39:58.079 --> 00:40:01.440
September of two thousand and ninety, and so we had

590
00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:03.679
decided that we were going to take a weekend trip

591
00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:06.800
down to Maceverde so that we could do hiking, because

592
00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:09.960
that was our thing. We would go and we would

593
00:40:10.039 --> 00:40:17.679
do the whatever close destinations we could in state, do

594
00:40:17.840 --> 00:40:21.679
hiking trips, occasionally go camping and things like that. And

595
00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:27.039
so we went down there the night before, stayed in

596
00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:29.960
Cortes so we could get up early the next morning,

597
00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:33.360
and so on the twenty third is when we would

598
00:40:33.400 --> 00:40:37.639
have been in Maceverde, and we got a pretty early start.

599
00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:42.360
We were there maybe an hour after the park initially opens,

600
00:40:42.639 --> 00:40:47.519
and at that time one of the trails was closed.

601
00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:53.119
I forget exactly which one it was that was closed,

602
00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:57.119
but we were able to do the petrografh trail and

603
00:40:57.320 --> 00:41:01.920
the Canyon Trail for hiking, and then we went and

604
00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:05.239
saw the actual Cliff Palace, so those three were at

605
00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:11.519
least open. And so initially we started our hike in

606
00:41:11.559 --> 00:41:16.559
the Petriclyffe trail and then ended with the Canyon trail.

607
00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:19.639
So for the Petrickclyffe trail, you basically you go in

608
00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:23.840
this area that hikes up along the canyon until you

609
00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:27.159
get to the petric glyphs, and then it's a short

610
00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:30.119
distance after that where you basically cross the canyon and

611
00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:36.159
you're out back into the main area. And so when

612
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:40.400
we were on that trail, I don't think we had

613
00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:43.320
been on there for very long, maybe ten or fifteen minutes,

614
00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:47.039
and I started to get this filling like something wasn't

615
00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:51.280
quite right. And I don't know that I would necessarily

616
00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:53.360
say it like I felt like I was being watched.

617
00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:59.559
I just felt like uneasy. And as we continue to

618
00:41:59.599 --> 00:42:03.159
go off on that trail, the filling kind of got

619
00:42:03.199 --> 00:42:08.800
more intense. I just felt like, Okay, something could possibly

620
00:42:08.840 --> 00:42:13.280
go wrong here. So I loved taking photos of nature

621
00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:16.079
and things like that, and we had a daughter back

622
00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:20.000
home with my mom at the time who loved wildflowers,

623
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:22.880
So I was taking pictures of flowers and rock formations

624
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:26.239
and all that stuff. And so I remember feeling like

625
00:42:26.320 --> 00:42:31.159
I needed to take extra pictures of our locations, like

626
00:42:32.599 --> 00:42:36.000
in case something went wrong, they would if they found

627
00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:39.400
my phone, they would know exactly where we left off

628
00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:46.440
so they could start searching. And so I started doing that.

629
00:42:46.519 --> 00:42:48.880
I started taking extra photos. I think by the end

630
00:42:48.920 --> 00:42:50.760
of it, I ended up with like two hundred and

631
00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:56.320
fifty plus photos, but that Philly never subsided. The entire

632
00:42:56.559 --> 00:42:59.760
rest of the time that we were hiking through these areas,

633
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:06.639
I felt that uneasy, filling, and it didn't matter how

634
00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:09.719
high up we were or how you know, low in

635
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:13.760
the canyon valley. We were Like I said, the petroglyph

636
00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:16.519
trail goes along the canyon, but then the canyon trail

637
00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:19.519
itself goes down into the canyon and loops back up.

638
00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:23.679
And this entire time that we're hiking through all these

639
00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:29.480
areas there's dense wilderness or there's like rock outcroppings and

640
00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:37.679
all sorts of different features and scenery and foliage and everything.

641
00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:42.840
I mean, what you would think of for that area

642
00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:47.559
of Colorado. It's not exactly the most like you would

643
00:43:47.559 --> 00:43:52.639
think more desert, like you wouldn't think, you know, bigfoot habitats.

644
00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:55.679
It's not something that I was thinking about. I thought

645
00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:57.920
like as soon as we left more of like the

646
00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:01.440
Pagosa Springs area the during gos that that was it

647
00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:05.280
like we were out of the potential areas where something

648
00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:08.679
like that would live and into more of the desert

649
00:44:08.719 --> 00:44:11.599
canyon areas, and it was just it kind of blew

650
00:44:11.639 --> 00:44:16.920
my mind exactly how densely wooded this area was, and

651
00:44:18.920 --> 00:44:25.880
just really eer refilling the entire time. So we get

652
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:29.440
done with the hikes, we go back, and of course,

653
00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:32.480
like I said, you know, I wasn't expecting bigfoot in

654
00:44:32.519 --> 00:44:35.559
this area. That was not a saying in my brain

655
00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:38.280
like that that couldn't happen. They couldn't live down there.

656
00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:42.519
So I didn't immediately do a deep dive into my

657
00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:45.039
photos to see if I caught anything or anything like that,

658
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:48.280
like that's not at all what the purpose that those were.

659
00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:52.800
It wasn't until a couple years later when I was

660
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:57.320
actually trying to do some art pieces for our house

661
00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:01.360
where I started to kind of go through those pictures

662
00:45:01.960 --> 00:45:04.639
and really dive into like the different areas and the

663
00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:09.480
different angles and zooming into things. And that's when I

664
00:45:09.559 --> 00:45:14.679
happened to cross this one figure. The first one that

665
00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:18.719
I saw was the figure poking out of the tree

666
00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:24.519
where I saw it and I thought, surely not, like

667
00:45:26.039 --> 00:45:29.000
what is this thing? You know? And the more I

668
00:45:29.039 --> 00:45:32.239
looked at it, every different way I tried to look

669
00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:35.559
at it and making it brighter, making it darker, any

670
00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:38.320
different way, like, it didn't change what I was seeing.

671
00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:40.840
I was still seeing this figure. I was still seeing

672
00:45:41.400 --> 00:45:47.039
something reach out with one hand and the eyeballs and there,

673
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:54.519
you know. So that led me kind of into a

674
00:45:55.920 --> 00:45:58.239
deep dive into these photographs to see if I could

675
00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:01.239
find anything else. And then I found some thing. And

676
00:46:01.320 --> 00:46:06.639
that's when I started looking at this figure that was

677
00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:11.280
standing across the canyon. And there again, from a distance,

678
00:46:11.400 --> 00:46:14.440
or if you weren't really paying attention, these things would

679
00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:17.920
just look like trees. But there there was this thing

680
00:46:18.119 --> 00:46:23.719
standing behind this tree across the canyon and doing a

681
00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:27.639
very poor job of it because it looked pretty distant

682
00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:32.480
from the tree, if you will. But and so I

683
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:36.559
kind of sat with those for a while, would occasionally

684
00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:40.440
pull them out home to you know, a family member

685
00:46:40.519 --> 00:46:43.400
here and there, or maybe a friend, but I didn't

686
00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:47.119
really do anything. And then I started kind of getting

687
00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:50.880
it more into Bigfoot and started listening to podcasts like

688
00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:55.800
I started listening to Like West's podcast, and then I

689
00:46:55.840 --> 00:46:58.920
got into listening to yours, and that led me to

690
00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:03.159
actually reaching out to you, and in doing so, I

691
00:47:03.199 --> 00:47:05.400
wanted to go back and look at those photos, making

692
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:09.000
sure like I had everything for you for the interview.

693
00:47:09.880 --> 00:47:14.360
And that's when I noticed that second one or not

694
00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:17.239
the second one, but the third one. And that third

695
00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:20.480
one is the one that I think looks like a

696
00:47:20.559 --> 00:47:25.599
female holding an infant standing with like a side profile

697
00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:28.880
right next to the tree like it's going down, like

698
00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:30.599
it's going to go past the tree.

699
00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:38.920
They really are some interesting photos, and it's okay that

700
00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:41.039
you had said it's okay to put them in the

701
00:47:41.159 --> 00:47:41.920
YouTube version.

702
00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:44.719
Correct. Yeah, absolutely absolutely.

703
00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:52.599
The one. Yeah, I mean, man, there's there is definitely

704
00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:54.840
what you have one zoomed in and I mean you

705
00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:59.920
can see what looks like it is. It looks like

706
00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:02.559
is reaching a handout and you can see like two

707
00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:07.079
eyes and like it's just it is. It's really wild stuff.

708
00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:10.960
I see a lot of photos, but but uh, these

709
00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:15.760
are some pretty pretty interesting things. Have you been back

710
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:17.039
to this area since then?

711
00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:21.159
I have not, And that's not to say that I

712
00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:24.840
wouldn't go back there. It's just time hasn't allowed for it.

713
00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:28.159
But so with that initial picture that you were just

714
00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:35.400
talking about, that one was crazy. So that one when

715
00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:39.039
you look at so if I go back and I

716
00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:42.360
look at some of my other photos, we were literally

717
00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:48.280
a minute from where the Petrick glyphs were and it

718
00:48:48.559 --> 00:48:52.599
was right off of the would have been the right

719
00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:55.199
hand side of the trail from where the Petrick glyphs

720
00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:57.840
were in the tree line over there. So I don't

721
00:48:57.840 --> 00:49:01.920
know how how far that would have been, and maybe

722
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:05.679
fifty feet and that that's a huge Maybe I don't

723
00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:08.880
even think it was that far, but it was off

724
00:49:09.320 --> 00:49:11.079
just a minute past the Petrick lives.

725
00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:21.519
Wow. And if you look at I mean, it's such

726
00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:26.159
an interesting area because the park really kind of juts

727
00:49:26.199 --> 00:49:31.199
down into the Ute Mountain Reservation and then south of

728
00:49:31.239 --> 00:49:35.400
that is the Navajo Nation, which I mean that whole

729
00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:40.239
area is is so so incredibly active. Yeah, when it

730
00:49:40.320 --> 00:49:44.920
comes to bigfoot and other things. And so I'm really

731
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:49.000
not surprised Sasquatch isn't going to stop at the reservation

732
00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:53.440
line and the park border for sure, It's just going

733
00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:56.559
to go right in there. So I'm not surprised at all.

734
00:49:56.599 --> 00:50:00.400
What did your what did your husband feel when you

735
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:02.599
started noticing these things?

736
00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:06.480
So initially when we were hiking, I didn't tell him

737
00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:09.119
that I was feeling any certain way, because I mean

738
00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:12.960
it's not unusual for me. I'm where of those people.

739
00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:16.519
I guess it's more in tune to like different changes

740
00:50:16.559 --> 00:50:20.880
in the atmosphere. If you will. So for me, it's

741
00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:23.320
just kind of like I could walk into any room

742
00:50:23.440 --> 00:50:27.400
and if something changes, I'll feel at first, or I'll

743
00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:32.960
notice something, or just anything kind of I guess weird

744
00:50:33.079 --> 00:50:37.760
like that, But so I don't often mention it to him.

745
00:50:38.320 --> 00:50:41.400
He didn't seem to really if he had felt anything

746
00:50:41.519 --> 00:50:46.920
at the time, he didn't say anything. But later on,

747
00:50:47.519 --> 00:50:51.760
as I started to find these pictures, you know, he's

748
00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:54.599
always been very much one of those was like I

749
00:50:55.280 --> 00:50:58.039
personally need to see it to believe it kind of people.

750
00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:04.159
But even then, like seeing these photos it makes him

751
00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:07.760
even kind of put a pause and go, wait a minute,

752
00:51:09.639 --> 00:51:12.079
this is something I'm seeing something. I don't know what

753
00:51:12.119 --> 00:51:14.320
I'm seeing, but I'm seeing something, and I can't deny

754
00:51:14.360 --> 00:51:15.320
that I'm seeing something.

755
00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:27.079
Sure, sure, sure, So it's a really interesting photo. Has

756
00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:30.840
has the fact that you now you have this this

757
00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:36.280
evidence captured of things on some things that were there

758
00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:40.800
during the hike. Has how has this affected things since

759
00:51:41.440 --> 00:51:43.960
the way that you view bigfoot f at all?

760
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:49.360
It was kind of like confirmation, confirmation of everything that

761
00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:52.440
I've seen. Its like, Okay, my eyes weren't actually playing

762
00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:55.239
tricks on me. These things actually are out there. They

763
00:51:55.280 --> 00:52:00.679
are real. They are in area is where you would

764
00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:05.079
least expect them to be, because I mean that first photo,

765
00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:08.440
the one across the canyon, about the time that I

766
00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:12.119
was starting to fill that unease, is about the time

767
00:52:12.159 --> 00:52:19.400
we captured that. It was within probably ten minutes of

768
00:52:19.440 --> 00:52:22.719
taking that photo, or like ten minutes of me starting

769
00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:24.960
to feel that way when I took that initial photo.

770
00:52:25.639 --> 00:52:32.719
And then the second one that I sent you, or

771
00:52:32.760 --> 00:52:34.639
the one where it's peeking out, Like I said, we

772
00:52:34.639 --> 00:52:37.880
were right off the trail, and that was in a

773
00:52:38.320 --> 00:52:40.719
high traffic area. There were a ton of people checking

774
00:52:40.719 --> 00:52:43.480
out those petric clips and a minute up up the

775
00:52:43.559 --> 00:52:48.239
road or up the trail, this thing was right off

776
00:52:48.280 --> 00:52:52.639
the side in the forest. And then the last one

777
00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:54.519
I sent you where you can kind of see the

778
00:52:54.559 --> 00:52:58.280
backpack at the edge of it. That one that just

779
00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:01.440
shows you exactly how close we were to that tree line.

780
00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:06.920
I mean, neither one of us saw anything or anything

781
00:53:07.000 --> 00:53:11.960
like that, like, and that was so close, and for

782
00:53:12.039 --> 00:53:14.119
them to be able to be that close to us

783
00:53:14.199 --> 00:53:17.320
and not be detected and to really blend in with

784
00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:21.079
the scenery and everything is just mind boggling. Like to

785
00:53:21.119 --> 00:53:24.519
have them in that area, that's more desert like and

786
00:53:24.559 --> 00:53:27.280
everything kind of blew my mind to begin with. But

787
00:53:27.920 --> 00:53:31.440
to see exactly how close they were to the trails

788
00:53:31.559 --> 00:53:35.760
and to other people and completely seemed, you know, maybe

789
00:53:35.800 --> 00:53:38.800
perturbed that one, you know, with the hand creeping out

790
00:53:38.800 --> 00:53:40.840
in the eyeballs and everything. He looked a little perturbed,

791
00:53:40.920 --> 00:53:46.480
or it looked a little perturbed. But yeah, just to

792
00:53:46.599 --> 00:53:50.559
have them that close to a bunch of people, to

793
00:53:50.880 --> 00:53:59.280
trails that are traveled regularly, just people need to be

794
00:53:59.360 --> 00:53:59.840
more aware.

795
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:07.639
M absolutely, And I mean see it's and it's especially

796
00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:10.920
you know, this happened in national park. And you know,

797
00:54:11.039 --> 00:54:16.480
my personal belief is that you know, bigfoot is in

798
00:54:17.320 --> 00:54:21.199
our national at least some of them in our national parks.

799
00:54:21.199 --> 00:54:24.159
And that's a whole other discussion in itself, but I mean,

800
00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:29.639
Maseverity National Park. You've got these these photos and and

801
00:54:29.679 --> 00:54:33.920
they're very, very compelling, and it really makes I know

802
00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:37.679
that there's been people that have reported things, you know,

803
00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:41.800
in other places, other national parks like Yosemite. And we

804
00:54:41.880 --> 00:54:50.719
talked to an individual out and I'm blanking, what is it, uh? Wyoming?

805
00:54:50.719 --> 00:54:52.360
What's the Wyoming one? What is it?

806
00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:52.440
What is it?

807
00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:52.880
Uh?

808
00:54:54.360 --> 00:54:54.960
Yellowstone?

809
00:54:55.480 --> 00:54:58.800
Yellow? Yes, to talk to the individual and Yellowstone National

810
00:54:58.840 --> 00:55:02.840
Park that was a worker there and had a had

811
00:55:02.880 --> 00:55:06.559
an encounter. And so you know, I would say from

812
00:55:06.559 --> 00:55:09.719
what I'm talking to people, and you can look at

813
00:55:09.760 --> 00:55:14.920
the reports, they're definitely definitely in our national parks. But yeah,

814
00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:19.599
based on based on what you've experienced in your three

815
00:55:19.639 --> 00:55:24.920
different encounters, do you have any thoughts or feelings about

816
00:55:25.239 --> 00:55:29.920
what you think bigfoot is exactly based on what you've experienced.

817
00:55:33.039 --> 00:55:35.679
I don't think it's one particular thing. I think there

818
00:55:35.679 --> 00:55:44.679
are multiple different types. So some I think are genuinely

819
00:55:44.760 --> 00:55:50.559
flesh and blood creatures that are you know, may maybe

820
00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:53.880
this goes back to the whole gigantopithec history that you know,

821
00:55:54.000 --> 00:55:58.039
gigantopithicists didn't actually go extinct and just found a way

822
00:55:58.119 --> 00:56:03.079
to migrate and adapt and so on. I don't know

823
00:56:03.280 --> 00:56:07.400
exactly if that works or not, but I viewed these

824
00:56:07.400 --> 00:56:10.000
things it's kind of like that, where there their flesh

825
00:56:10.079 --> 00:56:13.039
and blood and that's what they are, like, particularly the

826
00:56:13.079 --> 00:56:18.320
one in mas Verite. Just looking at some of those photos,

827
00:56:18.360 --> 00:56:23.519
like the you know, the female with the infant, really

828
00:56:23.679 --> 00:56:29.480
just struck me as this is just an animal trying

829
00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:36.840
to exist and care for their offspring and whatnot. But

830
00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:43.280
like the encounter that I had on the family land,

831
00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:49.440
that one was dark and that one was that struck

832
00:56:49.480 --> 00:56:53.000
fear into me, which the other two didn't, And that

833
00:56:53.199 --> 00:56:55.800
kind of leads me to, well, what if this had

834
00:56:56.239 --> 00:56:59.519
some other property to it? Because I felt that fear

835
00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:03.400
long before I got to it, and it was one

836
00:57:03.400 --> 00:57:07.639
of those things where I was not in control of

837
00:57:07.679 --> 00:57:16.039
my emotions. Everything was jumbled, everything seemed like to the extremes,

838
00:57:16.360 --> 00:57:20.719
and I feel like that was some form of control

839
00:57:20.840 --> 00:57:23.480
that you wouldn't get with just a normal animal.

840
00:57:28.599 --> 00:57:32.119
It is, it is one. I look at it as

841
00:57:32.360 --> 00:57:36.719
one of the last great mysteries of our world today,

842
00:57:37.519 --> 00:57:40.880
not just our country, but definitely of the world. And

843
00:57:40.960 --> 00:57:44.239
it's a thing where it really makes you wonder what

844
00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:46.920
is going on out there, especially when you have people

845
00:57:47.000 --> 00:57:50.639
like yourself where it affects. It can affect the way

846
00:57:50.639 --> 00:57:55.320
you're feeling in certain areas, how you're reacting, and I mean,

847
00:57:56.599 --> 00:58:01.400
it's just it's wild, wild stuff. Do you ever, do

848
00:58:01.440 --> 00:58:04.920
you wish to have another experience with something out there

849
00:58:05.039 --> 00:58:08.320
or you are are you okay with the ones that

850
00:58:08.360 --> 00:58:09.239
you've had so far?

851
00:58:10.719 --> 00:58:13.760
I think it would depend on the kind of experience

852
00:58:18.519 --> 00:58:21.639
if it if it weren't a hostile experience, and like,

853
00:58:21.679 --> 00:58:23.920
if I could control the type of experience I had,

854
00:58:24.000 --> 00:58:27.719
I wouldn't mind seeing another one it. I could take

855
00:58:27.760 --> 00:58:30.360
it or leave it. I guess is what I would

856
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:35.519
go with the hostile experience that that's life changing. When

857
00:58:35.519 --> 00:58:38.639
you have one of those where it seems like your

858
00:58:38.719 --> 00:58:41.679
life is actually in danger, you don't you don't want

859
00:58:41.719 --> 00:58:45.880
to experience that again. But when you see things on

860
00:58:45.920 --> 00:58:48.119
a different level, it kind of changes it and it

861
00:58:48.639 --> 00:58:52.519
makes it so it's or, yeah, I could do that again,

862
00:58:52.599 --> 00:58:54.760
I could see that again. But if I never did,

863
00:58:54.760 --> 00:58:57.679
at least I had those experiences, or at least at

864
00:58:57.760 --> 00:59:01.719
least I know that I'm not going crazy or you know,

865
00:59:01.760 --> 00:59:05.400
no matter what anybody says about me or whatever. You know,

866
00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:10.199
anytime I've recounted these tales, that's kind of like the

867
00:59:10.239 --> 00:59:13.280
perspective that I've taken with it is I know what

868
00:59:13.320 --> 00:59:16.519
I saw. I now have evidence of what I saw.

869
00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:18.840
I'm good either.

870
00:59:18.559 --> 00:59:25.159
Way, exactly exactly. No one can take the away from you. Jay.

871
00:59:25.239 --> 00:59:27.039
I just want to say thank you so much for

872
00:59:27.800 --> 00:59:31.280
sharing with us your experiences over the years. I want

873
00:59:31.320 --> 00:59:34.559
to make sure that you were able to share everything

874
00:59:34.840 --> 00:59:37.119
that you wanted to share on the show today.

875
00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:38.400
I think I have.

876
00:59:38.599 --> 00:59:44.440
Thank you awesome, awesome. Well, definitely do keep us in

877
00:59:44.480 --> 00:59:47.119
the little bit. If something does happen in the future

878
00:59:47.159 --> 00:59:49.800
when you're out hiking or in different areas, we would

879
00:59:49.840 --> 00:59:52.679
love to hear about it. But thank you again for

880
00:59:53.239 --> 00:59:57.280
spending some time with us tonight sharing what your experiences

881
00:59:57.320 --> 00:59:58.280
have been over the years.

882
00:59:59.320 --> 01:00:01.000
Well, thank you for happing me. Jeremmar.

883
01:00:03.320 --> 01:00:06.320
Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity

884
01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:09.599
around Oakridge, Oregon and you think to yourself, Man, I

885
01:00:09.599 --> 01:00:12.480
would love to get out in those woods and experience

886
01:00:12.480 --> 01:00:17.039
it for myself. Well, guess what this year you can.

887
01:00:17.679 --> 01:00:20.639
If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's

888
01:00:20.679 --> 01:00:25.599
pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth

889
01:00:25.679 --> 01:00:29.280
through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's going to be

890
01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:33.440
even better than the previous year's reason number one, I'll

891
01:00:33.480 --> 01:00:36.199
be one of the speakers. It's gonna be wild. I'll

892
01:00:36.239 --> 01:00:41.719
probably I'll say this, there may be stuff you haven't

893
01:00:41.760 --> 01:00:47.960
heard anywhere else, because let's just say sometimes it's well,

894
01:00:48.119 --> 01:00:50.079
you just got to be there. We'll leave at that.

895
01:00:50.239 --> 01:00:52.920
More about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now

896
01:00:53.000 --> 01:00:58.119
check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his

897
01:00:58.199 --> 01:01:03.079
documentary series Searching for SASQUATCHU. Well, this year you can

898
01:01:03.079 --> 01:01:06.239
not only go to the festival, but you can also

899
01:01:07.079 --> 01:01:13.800
sign up for a track deep in the wild forest

900
01:01:13.960 --> 01:01:18.599
outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot spots

901
01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:22.519
to look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign

902
01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:26.239
up for this, and yes, this will also be filmed

903
01:01:26.760 --> 01:01:29.480
for the next chapter in his documentary series, which is

904
01:01:29.639 --> 01:01:32.599
Searching for Sasquatch. This is a once in a lifetime deal.

905
01:01:32.800 --> 01:01:35.840
It's just it's going to be a wild, wild experience.

906
01:01:37.519 --> 01:01:41.000
To get a ticket, head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest

907
01:01:41.000 --> 01:01:45.599
dot com and listeners can use the code b sp

908
01:01:46.920 --> 01:01:50.400
like Bigfoot Society podcast in order to get a two

909
01:01:50.440 --> 01:01:53.360
day pass for the price of a one day pass.

910
01:01:53.840 --> 01:01:58.480
So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so

911
01:01:58.519 --> 01:02:04.960
that you guys can can get a little help with

912
01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:08.320
the cost there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to see

913
01:02:08.360 --> 01:02:12.599
you at the booth in Oakridge this year. We can

914
01:02:12.599 --> 01:02:14.880
talk about your encounter. Was able to talk to so

915
01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:18.559
many people last year and the year before. It is

916
01:02:18.679 --> 01:02:21.519
an incredible time. You're not going to want to miss it,

917
01:02:21.840 --> 01:02:26.280
and I'll see you there before we wrap this episode.

918
01:02:26.320 --> 01:02:28.920
I want to say something directly to a very specific

919
01:02:28.960 --> 01:02:32.440
group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch

920
01:02:32.760 --> 01:02:35.400
or forces, and if you've seen something that no one

921
01:02:35.480 --> 01:02:38.679
can explain, or if you're a National park ranger or

922
01:02:38.840 --> 01:02:42.159
forestryt worker who's been told to stay quiet, or if

923
01:02:42.199 --> 01:02:45.800
you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground,

924
01:02:46.199 --> 01:02:49.000
or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or

925
01:02:49.039 --> 01:02:52.559
working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed

926
01:02:52.559 --> 01:02:55.639
to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or

927
01:02:55.639 --> 01:02:59.280
search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks

928
01:02:59.400 --> 01:03:02.400
that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging industry

929
01:03:03.360 --> 01:03:06.280
on a remote oil field, or a trucker with government

930
01:03:06.320 --> 01:03:09.960
contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told

931
01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:13.639
a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist,

932
01:03:13.800 --> 01:03:17.199
or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence

933
01:03:17.320 --> 01:03:20.960
you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary,

934
01:03:21.079 --> 01:03:24.239
or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something

935
01:03:24.280 --> 01:03:28.079
that shook your faith, or if you work in the shadows, CIA,

936
01:03:28.280 --> 01:03:31.639
NSA or anything with clearance and you've seen what the

937
01:03:31.679 --> 01:03:36.320
public hasn't, then I want to talk to you, even

938
01:03:36.320 --> 01:03:41.400
if it's anonymous. You can reach me at Bigfoot Society

939
01:03:41.480 --> 01:03:44.519
at gmail dot com. The world needs to hear what

940
01:03:44.559 --> 01:03:49.079
you've been forced to carry alone, and you're not alone.

941
01:03:49.320 --> 01:03:54.400
You've got the story, We've got the mic. See you

942
01:03:54.440 --> 01:03:56.960
in the ws. Thank you for listening to this episode

943
01:03:57.000 --> 01:03:59.960
of the Bigfoot Society podcast. Every encounter we share remind

944
01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:02.280
finds us that the world is bigger and stranger than

945
01:04:02.320 --> 01:04:05.280
we think, and that the truth is often hiding just

946
01:04:05.360 --> 01:04:08.440
beyond the tree line. If you enjoyed this episode, please

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