Oct. 16, 2024

A Terrifying Encounter in the Colorado Woods.

A Terrifying Encounter in the Colorado Woods.

Vincent shares a chilling encounter while hiking in the Breckenridge area of Colorado. Seeking a break from his career during the pandemic, Vincent moved from Boston to Colorado, excited to embrace nature and the local ski culture. However, his...

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Season 1

Vincent shares a chilling encounter while hiking in the Breckenridge area of Colorado. Seeking a break from his career during the pandemic, Vincent moved from Boston to Colorado, excited to embrace nature and the local ski culture. However, his experience takes a sinister turn during a foggy hike when he encounters an eerie, ghost-like figure moving stealthily through the trees, leaving him filled with unshakeable fear. Despite being armed, he describes an overwhelming tunnel vision and terror, leading him to flee the area with his friend's dog. This encounter has left him deeply unsettled, altering his relationship with the woods, and seeking understanding. Tune in to hear Vincent's detailed account and his struggle to come to terms with this experience.

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Slash the Big for Society and now let's get on

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with the show. All right, Big Fort Society. You've got

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the privilege of talking to Vincent. He's an individual that

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reached out to me through the Big for Society email

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to share experience that happened to him I believe out

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there in Colorado. So how are we doing today, Vincent?

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I'm doing pretty good. Thank you for having me on.

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This is probably the first actual time I've ever had

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anyone take this seriously. I guess I don't know if

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I would call it. I've listened to your show before.

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I don't know if I would call it as much

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of like a face to face encounter, but something that

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happened to me that I haven't really talked about. I

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buried it back into my mind and still think about

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it multiple times a week, and I'm just not really

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sure what it was that I saw. But I'm looking

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forward to having this conversation with you today.

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Absolutely everything that is shared helps figure out the puzzle

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that we're all trying to figure out is how I

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view this, And the most important thing is that you're

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able to get this off your chest right, So, Vincent,

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I'm going to go ahead and give this over to you.

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Feel free and share what we need to know and

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take us through what happened.

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Please, all right. So I'm trying to figure out where

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I should even start this story. I grew up in Massachusetts.

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During the start of the pandemic, I really needed a

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change of scenery. I was working in downtown Boston at

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the time full time. I'm in sales, and I during

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the start of the pandemic my office I closed down.

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My manager basically said, we're never going to reopen the

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office again. It doesn't make sense financially. He pretty much said,

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you can go work remotely, you can live wherever. This

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is an opportunity for you to take any type of

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career change, whatever you're interested in. And I had visited

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Colorado once, grew up skiing and just really had a

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passion for that, and I always wanted to do a

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road trip. So I took it as an opportunity to

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just pack up everything that I had and just said,

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I'm just going to give it a try. So I

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moved out to Colorado, didn't have a place to live.

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I just really went out on a whim there and

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moved from Boston to Colorado right at the start of

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the pandemic in about twenty twenty. End of twenty twenty,

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and I got in touch with a mutual friend who

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had housing in Breckinridge, which is a really popular ski town.

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I'm sure all of your listeners or most of your

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listeners are familiar with it. I had been visited once before.

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I never expected to live in a ski town, had

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really no idea what was going to come of it,

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but I was very excited and yeah. I basically just

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asked one of my best friends, I said, would you

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be down to go on a road trip with me

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to Breckenridge, Colorado. He said, let's do it. So jove

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out to Colorado and just that's what started my excitement

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about the future. And spent the past four years three

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and a half years living in Breckenridge and a lot

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of ups and downs. Living in a ski town can

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really be kind of a lot to take in, especially

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going from living in downtown Boston to all of a

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sudden kind of dealing with the culture of a ski town.

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It was fun at times, but it wasn't at others.

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And one of the things that I really wanted to

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embrace more was the nature, because that's something that I

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just wasn't used to spend most of my time when

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I wasn't working, just taking my friend's dog on hikes,

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and that was something that I love to do. It

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really helped clear my mind. Sorry if I sound nervous.

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By the way, this is like the first interview I've

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probably ever done regarding this. I've told a few people

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about it before, but they didn't really take anything that

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I had said seriously, so I pretty much just stopped

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talking about it. But on this particular day, this was

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last year, so pretty recent, we have what's called mud

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season in Breckenridge, and anyone who's familiar with ski towns

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will know what that's all about. It's essentially when all

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the snow kind of starts to melt, the roads get

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really muddy, and it's a lot of folks leave town

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and it's a dead time of season for folks that

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live in a ski town. So I was still working

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and just wondering what the future was going to hold

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for me. I had gotten some news and my career

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was I'm not sure what was gonna happen with my career,

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so I went over to my friend's house that I

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had made over there in brack and he had a

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beautiful Australian shepherd that I loved. She was just the

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sweetest dog in the world, so incredibly smart, play with

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her all the time. On this particular day, I called

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up my buddy and I just said, hey, man, I'd

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love to come over and just go for a hike

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with your dog, if that's cool. And he said, yeah, absolutely,

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come by, grab the dog, take her for a hike,

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whatever you need to do. I'm here for you. So

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it was March, late March, early April. It was a foggy,

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rainy day up in the mountains. Quiet time of year,

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April kind of time for I couldn't tell you the

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exact date, I don't remember, but this particular time of year,

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a lot of it was just a very foggy, rainy, cold,

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dreary day. We didn't have a whole lot of snow.

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And I drove over to my buddy's house, picked up

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his dog, and I drove to just my usual spot,

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which is this old mine that is up this long

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dirt road on the drive up. Yeah, I mean, this

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is a drive I've done many, many times this is

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my usual spot. I love this spot because I know

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the trails during the day on a Saturday in the summer,

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I mean, there's the lots full, there's people, kids, cars.

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People love going to this spot. They really enjoy it

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because it's so unique. But there was no one there.

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I drove up, I parked, there wasn't a single around.

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I didn't even see a car with the whole drive

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up there. Get out of the car, and his dog

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jumped out of the car. She loves to play fetch,

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So usually what I'll do is I'll just pick up

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a stick and I'll just throw it to her up

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the trail. So she's running up the trail and then

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getting the stick and then bringing it back to me,

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and that's our routine. The first thing that was weird

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about this day was it is just, I mean just

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the mood was different. At first. I don't know if

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I was getting in my own head about it, but

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the second I got out of the car, the air

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just felt heavy. It was drizzling out. It was foggy,

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which was also just a little bit creepy. I mean,

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the whole time I was just riding everything off a

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This is just one of the foggier rainier days that

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I've been up here. But regardless, his dog was in

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a playful mood, so I just figured everything was fine.

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So I'm throwing the stick up the trail and we're

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just trucking along as we usually do, and I'm looking

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out at my twelve o'clock and it was bizarre because

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the fog had created this really unique gradient of the

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trees that I could see. So as I'm walking up,

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I'm noticing that the trees that are closest to me

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are completely black, and then the trees just behind that,

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at about ten yards past, those trees are a little

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bit more grayish in tone, and then the trees behind

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that are even more gray, and then you can't really

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see past that because of the fog. And I'm just,

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you know, just doing as I usually do, walking up

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this trail. And I I'm a concealed carry guy. I

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conceal in the state of Colorado. You have to go

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through training and whatnot. But regardless, if I'm going on

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a trail like this, I usually conceal carry just because

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we have mountain lions and things like that, and black

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bears and even there's a bunch of moose in Breckinridge

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as well, and really it's more for animals, just in

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a self defense scenario. But I had honestly completely forgot

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about that. I had an instant feeling of Like I

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want to say, if you've ever experienced an adrenaline dump,

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you get tunnel vision. I've had tunnel vision before with

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a completely different scenario that had happened to me. When

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I was really really scared about something completely unrelated and

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the same thing had happened, you really get hyper focused.

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The woods went completely silent. I mean, when I had

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gotten out of the car, I could hear the rain

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hitting the mud puddles as I was walking up, but

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as I continued up the trail, it just it hit

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me out of nowhere. I had an instant feeling of terror.

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I can't really explain it, but I was getting tunnel

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vision and I started to really panic. I have no

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idea at this moment where the dog was. I had

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completely forgot that she was even with me, And that

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sounds terrible, but I think it was sort of a

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fighter flight response to whatever was happening to me. And

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I want to say, when you're experiencing this kind of anxiety,

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you start to go back and forth in your head

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about what's going on? Why am I feeling this way?

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This isn't normal. But then there's also that other side

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of you that's saying, you're fine, you walk this trail

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the time, you're good. I looked at about my one

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o'clock and in that first kind of row of trees,

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pine trees that I'm looking at, they're completely black and

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I could see very clearly. Now these trees are narrow,

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They're not They're not these huge redwood or oak trees

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that you would see. They're tall and skinny trees, and

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they strip a lot of the bottoms of the trees.

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I don't know if that's not I'm not a tree expert,

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but you can see through these trees. So I'm looking

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and I see what looks like a round object on

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the side of this one tree. It's completely black, jet black,

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and it stood out like a sore thumb. And it

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was very awkward because it was like every other tree

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that I was looking at. What is this? What am

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I looking at? Here? Is this like a raccoon or

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something on the side of this tree? I have no idea.

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My heart was pounding. I don't know why I was

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so nervous. What am I looking at here? And that's

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when it moved. This this thing had I don't know

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if it was sideways against the tree so I couldn't

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see it. But this figure, it looked it was in

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the shape of a man. I would say. I saw

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what looked like an arm reach out and it grabbed

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the other pine tree that was next to it, and

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it crouched and in one fluid motion, as if it

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was on a conveyor belt, moved from one tree to

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the other tree, facing me the whole time. I mean,

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as you can probably hear him, I'm nervous just talking

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about it, because I haven't really I'm reliving this now.

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The hair on my arm is standing up in the

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back of my neck. It moved like a ghost. I

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don't know how else to explain it. It was like

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a man, but it was like it moved so fluidly.

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If you've ever watched any kind of movie or something

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like that, you would a horror movie, for example, if

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there's a ghost or something, you think of a ghost floating.

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That's the way it moved. But it was like a man,

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and it was completely jet black, and it was lanky,

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it was long. It wasn't stocky. I wasn't looking at

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something that it was tall. I could see it crouched

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down and it did this U shape. Imagine if you

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were holding onto one tree and you crouched your knees

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a little bit and then pulled yourself back up, as

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if you were holding onto the tree for support. These

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trees were at least eight feet apart.

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Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages?

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I have no idea. I didn't go back and measure

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the trees. I actually never went back to the spot.

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But the whole time that this is happening, I am.

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I mean, a tunnel vision is probably the best way

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I can explain it. I'm sure I was white as

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a ghost. I'm staring at this thing that just moved

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from one tree to the next and then went to

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the other tree. And I don't know if it was

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paralleling or standing sideways against the other tree when it

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had got there. But I didn't see it anymore. I

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was terrified. I don't there's no other way to explain it.

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I at this point, I'm shaking. I'm looking down. I'm

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looking for my friend's dog. There's like a million thoughts

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going through my head, and also at the same time,

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the only thing that I can think is just get

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out of here, Just just leave as quick as possible

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without turning around and sprinting out of there. I wanted to,

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but I really I couldn't. I don't know. It sounds

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crazy to even say. I'm even now as I'm saying

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it to you, I'm feeling like, was this I still

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relive this sometimes when I'm just going about my normal day.

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What did I What was that? What the hell did

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I see it? It wasn't there. It was not a man.

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There's there's no way it was man like in the

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sense that I saw that round object that I had

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seen was its head. It was peeking out from behind

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that tree, observing me, which is terrifying to even think.

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I don't know if it had saw me when I

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had parked my car and walked up. Was that initial

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fear that I had. Was that some type of response

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that was from this thing that I was seeing. I

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don't know. I couldn't see eyes, I couldn't see hair,

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I couldn't see any of those details that I for

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the for this, I'm sure I've listened to your show.

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A lot of folks that you have on they have

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these encounters and they're they're telling you the color of

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the eyes and this and that. This wasn't like that.

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This was a just I don't know what it was.

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I wish I knew, but I was terrified. I I

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the dog was right by my feet the whole entire time.

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Had no idea she was, from what I remember, was

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just just sitting there staring at the same thing I

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was she you know, I mean, she wasn't doing anything

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extremely abnormal, but she was still and that's unusual for her.

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She was sitting within a foot of my left leg,

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just sitting there. I grabbed his dog, I picked her up.

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We paced out of there, got back to the car.

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I turned the car on. I was looking up into

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that trail where I just was. I didn't see it,

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still felt that feeling of get out of here, and

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that's exactly what I did. I just turned the truck on,

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turned the key over, and drove out of there and

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never went back. That was one of my favorite trails.

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There's the what I did after went back to my

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friend's house, didn't didn't go in his house or anything,

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just dropped his dog off and went back to my

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apartment and just basically got in bed and didn't and

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was just thinking, I'm thinking, am I insane? Am I

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losing my mind? I'm not insane. I'm not a crazy person.

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I've never had anything like this, not even remotely close.

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I worked for a really well known tech company. I

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have a really good position. I work with a lot

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of high profile individuals. I could never have anything like

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this come out, and God forbid they find out that

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anything like this. I'm even saying to you, I don't

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tell anyone this. I've fill I tried to tell my sister,

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she's someone that I consider not only obviously family, but

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she's my best friend, and tried to even talk to

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her about this, and she says, oh, you saw a

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homeless guy, a homeless black guy in the woods, and

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I I just chuckled at the time. I anyone that

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knows Breckinridge, and this isn't in any way, shape or

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form to make anyone feel any type of way. There

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there's no homeless people in Breckenridge. There's also no there's

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there's also no black people in Breckenridge. And I'm not

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saying that as a joke. It's the reality. I'm not.

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It's not to make anyone feel any type of way.

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It also just is not what I saw. There's no

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way any human could move like this. I feel like

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I'm rambling right now. I'm sorry, but that's that's the

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extent of what I saw. I don't. I don't know

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what else to say, but yeah, that's that's pretty much it.

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Jerem I I I this has affected me in a

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sense that I don't. I don't enjoy being in the woods.

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I used to love it. When I first got Colorado.

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That was all I wanted to do was go hiking

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and go to the trails alone. I love putting in

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headphones and going through a walk in the woods. I

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have my own dog now. I actually got an Australian

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Shepherd because I love that breed so much. I just

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I won't. I won't go on trails where you know,

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I know that if I'm going to be alone, I

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could see something like this again. I mean, it really

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affected me. I'm sure you can hear my voice too now,

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and I'm just talking about it. It's ungreliving it. But

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that's I mean, that's pretty much all there is to it. I. Yeah,

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I guess that's that's all I really have to say

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about that. The experience.

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Thank you so much. I can definitely you can tell

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there's some some interviews where the the witnesses is very affected.

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I can tell you definitely have been affected a great

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deal by what you saw, and I'm thankful that you

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were able to finally share with to get literally get

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it off your chest, but to share with others that

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might be dealing with a similar thing as well. Do

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you mind if I ask you a few questions about

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that day?

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Yeah, yeah, I'm happy to I'm happy to answer any

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questions you have.

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Did you notice that there were any smells in the

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area when you were out there?

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I didn't notice any smells there. It was other than

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that CHRISP clean air you get in the mountains, no smells,

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just I did. The feeling of being watched is very,

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very real. I know there's been studies on it that

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I looked into. I mean that's what you do when

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you have something like this, You search for answers on

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your own, and that's what I've done. I've looked into

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all types of whatever answers I could could get. I

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didn't arrive at the I wasn't thinking Bigfoot when this happened.

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It wasn't until after I listened to what I could

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find on YouTube through your show. There's other shows out

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there as well that I've listened to, and I've actually

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heard that similar things that you don't always see, that

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this big kind of lumbering. You think it sounds even

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silly to say. Whatever you see on the commercials of

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the the jokes they make about Bigfoot, Everyone's seen them.

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It's this big lumbering, just ten foot tall creature. It's huge,

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it's smells horrible. But what I saw was stealthy. It

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was dynamic in the way that it moved, It was

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intentful in the way that it moved. It was it

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was like there was an ice cube on the back

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of my neck from the second I got out of

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that car. And that's the only feeling that I had.

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But like I said, I was writing it off the

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whole time. Was it was just I don't know. From

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the second I got there, something just felt very very off.

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I've done this trail hundreds of times. I mean, it

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was extremely unusual. The feeling that I had.

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Did it sounds like you definitely went on You've been

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going on your own journey to try to figure stuff out.

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After this, did you do any research to look to

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see if there had been any other sightings in that

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same area of Colorado.

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I've looked. I looked at the same area that so,

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Summit County is the county, the overarching county of the

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town of Breck where I lived. But it's so, I mean,

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there were I there was only one sighting that I

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could find, and that was it is not in the

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same town, but there there was one. I think it

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was in twenty ten that someone had reported seeing a

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creature of some sort in Summit County. I didn't mention

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the town though, so it could have been any town.

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But I mean, I it sounds rude, and I'm not

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trying to be rude at all. I just when you

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read someone else's encounter, it's, you know, I mean, it's

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you don't get the the same you know, you don't

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you just don't get the same feeling as you do

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when you listen to someone. And that's what I've been doing,

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is just trying to listen to as many as possible.

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I've stopped listening to them. I mean, honestly, I wish

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I could I wish. I mean I wish none of

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this had even happened. To be honest with you, I

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wasn't going out looking for any of this type of thing.

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I didn't never was never something I thought about. I mean,

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I'm very career focused. It's not something that I research

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or look into. After this happened, it was like I

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needed answers, and I just did what I think anyone

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would do in my situation, which is, don't really tell

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anyone because you'll probably get looked to have very weird

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and just do the research on your own. And that's

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that's what I did. But no, there was only one sighting.

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But you know something that I think people don't talk

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about is these ski towns. They you think of a

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ski town, right, like any ski town in Colorado, and

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the first thing that comes to mind is they're rich people, right,

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just people there vacationing, people walking around main street. Well,

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you leave main Street and you start driving down any

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of these roads in mud season, I mean there's it's

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there's some really really remote areas that you can get into.

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One of my ex girlfriends lived in a neighboring town,

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and I mean in her backyard alone. You walk up

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the hill. I mean you'll literally just go forever in

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the woods. You'll get lost out there when you're on

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a chair lift, for example, if you're skiing, I mean

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you're looking around and it's just endless. The space out there.

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It's insane. I mean you're looking around and there. I mean,

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you can't there's got to be millions and millions of trees.

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It's just endless, endless mountains and trees. I mean, you

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think you're some of these people that get lost. I mean,

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I've been listening to a lot of David Politis. I

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really like his approach to a lot of this. I

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think he has a really open mind and his story

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is incredible. I could listen to him for days. But

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skiers go missing all the time, snowboarders go missing. I mean,

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this kind of thing happens. You go off the trails somewhere,

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you end up in the middle of nowhere. You have

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no idea where you are. So it's just it's been

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it's been a trip for me, to say the least

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I've been. I don't know, it's just it's it's weird.

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I don't I don't know what to make of it. Still,

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there's no way. There's there's absolutely no way on earth

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what I saw as a person, no way. It It

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did not move like a person. This was something else.

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I have no idea what, but yeah, it's just the

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way that it moved was the creepiest thing I've ever

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seen in my life.

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Have you ever seen that movement replicated in anything else

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that you've seen, like on television or or anything.

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I thought, that's a good question. You I don't think

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I have. I can't say that I have seen it

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because if someone was to try to remake it that

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I don't. I don't know. I don't know how they

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would because I could see it reach out from behind

452
00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:17.319
that tree, go behind, reach out behind the other tree,

453
00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:20.559
almost as if it was holding onto it before it.

454
00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:25.279
It didn't just walk out like into the middle of

455
00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:28.279
the two trees. And it wasn't like it was just

456
00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:35.000
standing there. It was intently creep creeping from one tree

457
00:29:35.000 --> 00:29:35.440
to the other.

458
00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:39.160
Big for society, who will be right back after these messages?

459
00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:58.960
It like in the way that it crouched a little bit,

460
00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:03.200
I could see between its legs, I could see the

461
00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:08.480
in between the fog. It was unlike anything I've ever seen.

462
00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:12.880
I've never seen it replicated it. It didn't. It just

463
00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:14.839
didn't move like anything I've seen.

464
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:20.240
Well, that's a similar story to a lot of people

465
00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:23.240
will mention that the way it moves is like nothing

466
00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:28.559
they've ever seen. It glides, it's smooth, It almost floats

467
00:30:28.559 --> 00:30:31.559
above the ground in the way that it's it's so smooth.

468
00:30:32.079 --> 00:30:35.720
Just very very interesting and to be hopefully someday we'll

469
00:30:35.759 --> 00:30:41.279
get some solid answers about what causes that, how it

470
00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:44.119
does that. But something I did want to point out,

471
00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:46.720
and I'm not sure if you're familiar with the website

472
00:30:46.880 --> 00:30:50.359
or the organization, the BFRO, which is a bigfoot field

473
00:30:50.440 --> 00:30:51.599
researchers organization.

474
00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:54.640
So it's like, yeah, that's the website I used.

475
00:30:55.000 --> 00:31:01.279
Got it Looking at Summit County, Colorado. As of today,

476
00:31:01.559 --> 00:31:04.440
when we're talking in twenty twenty four, it looks like

477
00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:08.759
there's actually Class A reports for Summit County going all

478
00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:11.960
the way back to the nineteen sixties, which is pretty incredible.

479
00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:15.720
They're all classes, which means those are visual sightings, right,

480
00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:20.319
the person actually saw a creature. Yeah, so you may

481
00:31:20.359 --> 00:31:26.880
be you may be closer to a place that has

482
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:30.279
quite a history to it than you realize. But it's

483
00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:33.599
just it's very interesting, and I'd be curious if listeners

484
00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:37.880
have also heard things in the Summit County or Breckenridge area.

485
00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:42.279
They're welcome to reach out as well. But I would say, yeah,

486
00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:47.039
you're you're just trying to figure stuff out and trying

487
00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:48.000
to just move on.

488
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:54.319
It sounds like, yeah, yeah, I mean I really, it's

489
00:31:54.920 --> 00:31:58.720
absolutely I am trying to move on. It's tough though,

490
00:31:58.799 --> 00:32:01.559
because in the back of your mind and you still

491
00:32:01.599 --> 00:32:07.839
have that you still have that fear, and it's it

492
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:11.000
sucks to be honest because sometimes you feel like you

493
00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:14.839
can't really. I mean, I've gone down a bit of

494
00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:17.160
a rabbit hole since all of this and listening to

495
00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:20.519
all of these four one one missing at least these

496
00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:25.960
David politis his investigations that he's done. I mean, it's

497
00:32:26.279 --> 00:32:30.480
scary to be honest. I don't want to feel that way.

498
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:34.400
I don't want to feel creeped out. I don't. I

499
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:37.200
don't want to be that kind of person that's anxious.

500
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:40.640
Just want to go, like enjoy a walk with my

501
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:45.960
dog wherever. And the sum accounting thing that you bring

502
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:48.000
up is interesting, I don't. I don't. I think the

503
00:32:48.079 --> 00:32:50.880
last time I looked that up specifically is I've gone

504
00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:53.279
down more of the I've been listening to your show

505
00:32:53.720 --> 00:32:55.599
a lot, and I think what you're doing is great.

506
00:32:56.200 --> 00:32:59.599
I love your approach, and I think this interview style

507
00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:02.400
is the best way that we can at least get

508
00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:05.920
some people to come forward and say, hey, this is

509
00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:10.319
what I saw. I'm not saying specifically this is what

510
00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:12.920
it is. I mean, you have people that say, this

511
00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:15.839
is exactly what I saw. I saw bigfoot. I saw

512
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:20.200
it was like its eyes were red. I can't I

513
00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:24.559
don't know what I saw. I just it. It's reassuring

514
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:30.039
to know that other people have seen similar things. I

515
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:34.920
mean this it was like it was lanky. I don't know,

516
00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:40.400
it was not this big, like broad looking thing it was.

517
00:33:40.599 --> 00:33:44.240
It was definitely bigger than you and I, but it

518
00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:49.920
was long. It was like it was just creeping in

519
00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:53.759
the way that it moved. I don't know. I have

520
00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:56.000
no doubt it was bigger than you and I, but

521
00:33:56.640 --> 00:34:01.880
I didn't get this kind of full, full front. I

522
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:05.480
didn't want to go shake hands with it. Oh yeah,

523
00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:06.000
I don't know.

524
00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:11.480
Were you able to see any details from the silhouette

525
00:34:11.480 --> 00:34:14.320
of it, like a shape of the head or length

526
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:15.320
of the arms.

527
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:19.800
Or anything that. Yeah, it had a point it had

528
00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:22.199
a I don't remember what they call it. It had

529
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:26.039
a not a pointy head, but you know what, I

530
00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:28.599
can't remember what it's called. I could see its head

531
00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:30.920
was it was roundish, but you know, you could tell

532
00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:34.840
the top of it was had that cranium type look

533
00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:41.679
to it, almost like you know, where the head. So

534
00:34:41.880 --> 00:34:44.800
when it was when that round object that I was

535
00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:48.079
looking at on the side of that tree, I mean

536
00:34:48.119 --> 00:34:50.719
I was writing it off, I was thinking raccoon. I

537
00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:53.000
don't know what I was thinking. It was stuck to

538
00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:56.199
the side of the tree. But that's what I had

539
00:34:56.320 --> 00:34:58.840
later put together, is that that was its head. It

540
00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:01.320
was looking at me, and when it turned and went

541
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:05.599
facing me, you could see its shoulders and like I said,

542
00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:08.480
I could see through its legs. So it stuck its

543
00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:11.000
leg out and it had crouched down and it was

544
00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:13.719
holding onto that other tree. And when it moved from

545
00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:16.880
one tree to the other, it was pulling itself up

546
00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:21.559
to that other tree and then going sideways again, which

547
00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:26.360
is weird because would it why would it was it

548
00:35:26.440 --> 00:35:30.280
trying to hide, but why would it pull itself out

549
00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:33.280
in front of me and where I could see the

550
00:35:33.800 --> 00:35:36.400
front of it. I'm looking at a silhouette of it.

551
00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:41.119
By the way, I'm looking at its head, shoulders, incredibly

552
00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:45.280
long arms. I didn't get any details on the legs,

553
00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:50.119
but I could see the lights from coming through its legs,

554
00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:53.760
so I could see its legs, but I couldn't Other

555
00:35:53.840 --> 00:35:55.679
than that, I couldn't give you any details. It was

556
00:35:55.760 --> 00:35:59.280
just completely check black. It stood out like a sore throat.

557
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:01.199
There was no doubt about it.

558
00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:11.320
Yeah, that is very very interesting details after the after

559
00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:14.679
the sighting, and then you went back to your apartment

560
00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:21.239
and trying to figure things out. Yeah, did any did

561
00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:25.599
anything out of the ordinary or weird things start to

562
00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:33.920
happen around your apartment or in your life, just anything

563
00:36:33.960 --> 00:36:38.599
out of the ordinary.

564
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:44.519
So I lived, I lived on one street away from

565
00:36:44.639 --> 00:36:49.079
the main strip. So where I lived specifically, I don't.

566
00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:51.800
I don't live in break anymore, by the way, but

567
00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:57.480
where I had lived then was a busier area. I

568
00:36:57.480 --> 00:37:02.920
didn't experience anything out of the normal other then. I

569
00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:05.800
mean I never went back. I never went back with

570
00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:08.599
a measuring tape and did any follow up there? Just

571
00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:10.639
part of me. I mean I could go there right now,

572
00:37:11.599 --> 00:37:14.639
I live in Golden Colorado. Now, I mean I could

573
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:16.159
drive up there and be there in an hour and

574
00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:19.239
a half and take a measuring tape when I could

575
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:21.559
still tell you the exact tree that it happened on it,

576
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:25.280
I could take anyone there. I don't want to go back,

577
00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:28.199
not at least if I'm with other people in the

578
00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:31.440
broad daylight. Even then. I mean, I don't know. I've

579
00:37:31.559 --> 00:37:34.480
never been back since nothing else really out of the

580
00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:41.199
norm happened to me. I can't say anything else happened

581
00:37:41.239 --> 00:37:48.480
other than internalizing that experience. And just like I said,

582
00:37:48.519 --> 00:37:51.079
going back and forth trying to write it off. I

583
00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:56.119
think that's a normal reaction to try to feel like

584
00:37:56.280 --> 00:37:58.920
what happened yet it was just this, it was just that,

585
00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:03.000
and but it just it wasn't that. I just I

586
00:38:03.039 --> 00:38:06.280
can't bring myself to normalize any of what happened that day.

587
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:12.760
It was very out of the ordinary. It was terrifying.

588
00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:18.599
I mean it's affected me negatively. I mean, it hasn't

589
00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:21.480
it caused me to want to go out and look

590
00:38:21.559 --> 00:38:24.519
for these types of things. I don't want to experience.

591
00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:26.159
I want to forget about all of it. To be

592
00:38:26.159 --> 00:38:30.840
honest with you, no one's ever taken me seriously, when

593
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:33.480
I've talked about this, by the way I mean it,

594
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:37.039
you tell I mean your own family. I can be

595
00:38:39.320 --> 00:38:42.400
just they weren't there. I don't know. I don't even

596
00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:46.440
know if it would have happened. I can't say. I

597
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:50.320
don't know if it was just curious and there seemed

598
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:54.840
to be malicious intent. It did not, you know, invoke

599
00:38:54.920 --> 00:38:58.239
a good feeling. It definitely didn't want me there. Whatever

600
00:38:58.280 --> 00:39:02.639
it was, it just sucks. And you try to find

601
00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:05.920
answers and you try to talk to people, and sometimes

602
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:09.320
it's the people that you love the most that just

603
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:12.000
write you off. It sucks.

604
00:39:12.360 --> 00:39:16.000
I get it, Vincent. When I went out to Oregon

605
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:20.440
this last summer, I made the mistake of being really

606
00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:23.280
excited when I came back and telling a lot of

607
00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:27.039
people who are not into Bigfoot, and unfortunately a lot

608
00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:31.159
of people think I'm just absolutely crazy now. And so

609
00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:37.320
I get that where it's like having that constant thinking

610
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:39.559
in your mind where it's like, Okay, if I tell

611
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:41.559
this person, how are they going to react to this?

612
00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:46.519
Can they handle it? How am I what's the consequence

613
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:48.239
is going to be in my future life? If I

614
00:39:48.360 --> 00:39:51.199
shared this with this particular individual and you have to

615
00:39:51.280 --> 00:39:54.840
constantly be thinking that it's just it is not a

616
00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:56.480
fun situation to be with.

617
00:39:56.679 --> 00:39:59.920
So I'm glad of a friend.

618
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:03.320
Go ahead, Yeah, I'm sorry.

619
00:40:03.519 --> 00:40:06.719
I had a friend tell me so. Growing up in Massachusetts,

620
00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:11.599
my grandmother lived on Cape Cod and we used to

621
00:40:11.639 --> 00:40:15.079
go to this island called Nantucket a lot. I'm not sure.

622
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:17.880
I'm sure your listeners have heard of it, but it's

623
00:40:18.119 --> 00:40:21.440
really old as an island off the coast of Massachusetts.

624
00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:24.280
It's beautiful. Growing up, we would go there from time

625
00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:27.320
to time, and I had a friend who had a

626
00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:32.599
really scary he says it was a ghost encounter. There's

627
00:40:32.679 --> 00:40:37.280
a lot of interesting history around Nantucket because it dates

628
00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:39.119
back to a lot of I don't know if you

629
00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:41.920
would call them pirates old sailors. I mean back when

630
00:40:41.960 --> 00:40:44.599
the whaling industry was huge. It was a place where

631
00:40:44.599 --> 00:40:47.000
a lot of whalers would stop. And there's a lot

632
00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:51.079
of more around Massachusetts. I'm not sure if you've ever

633
00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:54.480
heard of the Bridgewater Triangle and things like that. I never. Oh, yeah,

634
00:40:54.519 --> 00:40:57.880
I always thought it was interesting. Yeah, I've always thought

635
00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:00.360
it was interesting. If someone was to come up to

636
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:05.119
me that I, you know, I someone that I would

637
00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:07.400
consider a friend I would. I would always hear them out,

638
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:10.320
you know, I wouldn't instantly write them off and try

639
00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:12.440
to come up with other things that it was. You know,

640
00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:14.119
I think the best thing you can do is just

641
00:41:14.199 --> 00:41:16.880
listen to someone, and that's the approach that you take.

642
00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:18.719
If someone was to come up to me and say

643
00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:22.760
a similar or even any type of story, I mean,

644
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:24.920
I would always approach it with an open mind. I

645
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:27.400
wouldn't just instantly try to write it off. I mean,

646
00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:31.159
this isn't, like I said before, this isn't something I

647
00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:35.519
was ever looking for. I didn't I didn't want I

648
00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:38.639
didn't go out looking for this type of thing. I

649
00:41:38.639 --> 00:41:41.800
went out to clear my head with my friend's dog

650
00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:45.360
on a hike that I do millions of times. Just

651
00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:47.760
so happened then this day was very different.

652
00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:56.480
Well, Vincent, thank you for for taking some time and

653
00:41:56.559 --> 00:42:01.760
for sharing with everyone listening what you've expect sperienced. I

654
00:42:01.800 --> 00:42:06.280
hope that someday you can get to the point where

655
00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:08.800
you can go back into the woods and enjoy nature.

656
00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:12.320
Have you ever considered maybe going out with a group

657
00:42:12.760 --> 00:42:16.800
as a way to get accustomed to it again rather

658
00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:17.760
than just yourself.

659
00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:24.440
Yeah, that's actually the only time I'll go out. There's

660
00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:28.480
so many trails around where I live now, and I

661
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:34.480
just I don't know. I won't go out alone. It

662
00:42:34.599 --> 00:42:37.159
sounds embarrassing to even say out loud. To be honest

663
00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:39.079
with you, this is the first time I've ever actually

664
00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:42.000
admitted it. But I would just prefer to be with

665
00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:47.079
a couple of people. And then now I'm reading about

666
00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:50.280
David Politis and he's talking about how people in the

667
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:52.960
back of the group are there one second and then

668
00:42:53.000 --> 00:42:56.719
they disappear. So there's just so much we don't know,

669
00:42:56.800 --> 00:42:58.880
and that's what I'm realizing. I don't know if you've

670
00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:03.599
ever listened to this one encounter. It's a woman from England.

671
00:43:03.719 --> 00:43:06.079
She saw what she thought were cats on the beach

672
00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:08.199
because they were moving so weird, and then they stood

673
00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:11.679
up and they were screaming at her, and she had

674
00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:15.519
what you would say as a class encounter. But her

675
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:18.360
encounter is so terrifying that I don't think I would

676
00:43:18.360 --> 00:43:20.559
ever be able to recover from that. I mean, there's

677
00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:23.320
no doubt about what she saw, because she had a

678
00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:29.360
face to face encounter. But I don't know. There's clearly

679
00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:34.599
things we don't know. A lot of disappearances in Colorado.

680
00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:37.119
I don't want to be one of them. I just

681
00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:40.440
want to work and hang out with my dog and

682
00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:44.039
my friends and just live a normal life. That's pretty

683
00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:44.800
much it.

684
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:46.800
It's definitely a good idea if you're going to go

685
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:50.440
out into the woods to probably be in a group

686
00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:55.960
or have someone know where you're going, share location, all

687
00:43:56.000 --> 00:43:58.480
that good stuff. That's me talking to everyone.

688
00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:04.280
Yeah, hmm, I wanted to ask you, so, have you

689
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:08.079
talked to anyone on your show? You have so many episodes.

690
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:11.559
I wish I had time to listen to them all.

691
00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:17.159
Just me anything similar that you talk to anyone about.

692
00:44:17.559 --> 00:44:22.280
From what I experience, I'm trying to think there have

693
00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:28.840
been individuals that definitely say that the smooth movement or

694
00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:33.039
the pulling itself from tree to tree. I think there's

695
00:44:33.079 --> 00:44:36.840
a gentleman in southeast Oklahoma who mentioned that. Actually that

696
00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:43.760
happened in northwest Arkansas by the Buffalo River. Okay, that

697
00:44:43.960 --> 00:44:46.400
was more than a few years ago. But no, it's

698
00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:49.880
a thing where the way you're explaining how the creature

699
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:54.119
is moving that has I have heard that more than

700
00:44:54.159 --> 00:44:56.320
a few times, and not just on my show. I've

701
00:44:56.320 --> 00:44:59.039
heard it on others. So I think it's probably one

702
00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:00.920
of those things that if we get to the point

703
00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:06.880
where we're able to observe, really observe a specimen, I

704
00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:12.320
think that's one of the definite things that we will notice, like, Okay,

705
00:45:12.679 --> 00:45:17.119
that's how it's moving smoothly. Look, if there's trees, it

706
00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:19.840
is pulling itself from tree to tree. That's how it

707
00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:23.119
moves across. And it's just one of those things where,

708
00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:26.639
you know, the main reason I do this is so

709
00:45:26.679 --> 00:45:31.199
that people like yourself can have a way to get

710
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:35.480
it off their chests and hopefully start to gain control

711
00:45:35.639 --> 00:45:39.239
of the situation. But I said this in an interview

712
00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:43.039
the other day where it's like, hopefully myself and other

713
00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:49.000
podcasts like Sasquatch Chronicles and Brian from Sasquatch Odyssey and

714
00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:51.960
all those guys in mcgal from Sasquatch Theory, if we

715
00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:57.480
just keep pouring pouring stuff content into the bathtub, eventually

716
00:45:57.519 --> 00:45:59.400
it'll get to the point where it's going to overflow

717
00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:02.880
and go every where and people can't look past anymore,

718
00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:05.840
and it's just kinda So that's I hope a side

719
00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:09.880
product of putting out all this this content as well

720
00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:13.320
as that it just starts to really get recognized. We'll see,

721
00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:15.320
We'll see what happens in the future though.

722
00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:19.360
But yeah, well, I find it interesting that from the

723
00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:22.079
encounters that I've listened to that are the most compelling,

724
00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:27.119
it seems to always be from the individuals that don't

725
00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:29.960
really have any knowledge about it. Don't go out looking

726
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:33.199
for it. They don't have the what am I looking

727
00:46:33.239 --> 00:46:35.599
to say here? They don't you know, they're not interested

728
00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:40.320
in the topic. You know. Some of the episodes that

729
00:46:40.360 --> 00:46:43.800
I've listened to that really stood out were, you know,

730
00:46:44.039 --> 00:46:48.400
just kind of ordinary everyday people that aren't researchers. They're

731
00:46:48.440 --> 00:46:52.480
not going out banging on trees and trying to figure

732
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:55.719
out how can I lure this thing in. Let's just

733
00:46:55.760 --> 00:46:58.800
see every day people that whether it be fishermen, hunters,

734
00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:02.039
I mean, I don't know. I find it weird that,

735
00:47:02.719 --> 00:47:06.920
you like, I mean, some people go out looking for it,

736
00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:09.719
when they bring cameras and they do everything they can,

737
00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:12.639
and I respect it. I do respect it. I think

738
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:15.400
anyone that's passionate about what they're doing and they put

739
00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:18.760
all their effort into it is really something to for

740
00:47:18.920 --> 00:47:21.559
something to be said about that. I respect that. I

741
00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:24.039
also find it interesting that it seems to be the

742
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:29.400
folks that don't, that aren't looking for it, that then

743
00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:31.880
come forward and say I had this experience and then

744
00:47:31.920 --> 00:47:35.920
it changed my life. You know, It's just it's bizarre

745
00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:36.199
to me.

746
00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:40.599
Absolutely, absolutely the people that have nothing to gain that

747
00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:45.639
are just yeah, normal everyday people, or the people that

748
00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:48.639
are out there looking but also have the right intentions

749
00:47:48.679 --> 00:47:51.000
and the right motivations as well. I think that plays

750
00:47:51.039 --> 00:47:53.320
a lot into it. They're not out there to get

751
00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:59.840
famous and bag the next one. I mean, that's not

752
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:03.199
to happen. It's not going to happen for those people,

753
00:48:03.400 --> 00:48:06.920
to be quite frank from what I've found talking to

754
00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:10.320
people over the years. So Vincent man, it has been

755
00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:12.519
such a privilege to talk to you, and thank you

756
00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:15.639
so much for coming on the show. If there's anything

757
00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:17.840
I can ever do to to help, or you ever

758
00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:21.880
have any questions, please please feel free to reach out

759
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:23.719
and so much.

760
00:48:23.880 --> 00:48:27.760
Yeah, I really appreciate it. You have no idea. I mean,

761
00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:30.800
even now I'm feeling very better about the whole situation.

762
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:34.440
It's really nice to talk to someone just put it

763
00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:37.000
out there. I really appreciate it. Thank you so much

764
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:38.119
for listening to me.

765
00:48:38.920 --> 00:48:42.199
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769
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773
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775
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776
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777
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784
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