March 8, 2026

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Originally released on 8/21/24 as Episode 503 In this episode, we delve into the extraordinary experiences of Tim Dills from Western North Carolina, a lifelong outdoorsman whose encounters span more than fifteen years across the rugged mountains of...

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Season 1

Originally released on 8/21/24 as Episode 503

In this episode, we delve into the extraordinary experiences of Tim Dills from Western North Carolina, a lifelong outdoorsman whose encounters span more than fifteen years across the rugged mountains of Macon County. Hunting deep within the vast forests surrounding Standing Indian, Rainbow Springs, and the North Carolina–Georgia border, Tim began noticing subtle signs that something was sharing the ridgelines with him.


What started as unusual sounds and disturbances on a remote, gated property soon unfolded into repeated interactions—powerful vocalizations echoing through the hollows, rocks landing with precision, trees manipulated along active trails, and moments of unmistakable presence just beyond sight. Over time, those experiences led to multiple visual encounters, including a towering figure observed at close range and tracks measuring far beyond anything human.


Tim describes intelligent behavior, coordinated movements in the forest, and a landscape that feels alive with awareness. He shares how years of returning to the same remote mountain terrain shaped his understanding of these beings and strengthened his conviction that they are deeply rooted in the Appalachian wilderness.


Grounded, detailed, and reflective, Tim’s account offers a rare look into sustained activity in one North Carolina county. Join us as we explore his journey through the forests of Western North Carolina and the enduring mystery that continues to unfold there.


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You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, big for Society. You've

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got the privilege of talking to Tim. He's a Bigfoot

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researcher from western North Carolina. And how's it going today, Tim?

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I'm done great. Sarah, how about you?

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Oh man, I'm having a great day. Just got back

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from Oregon, so kind of getting back into this swing

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of things. But I heard about you through our mutual

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friend mister Harley Owens from down there in eastern Tennessee.

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Big or a big big four Nope, Bigfoot rep Ports

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and Data and yeah, it's just a pleasure to meet you.

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And it sounds like you've got some really interesting things

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you've been involved with since about two thousand and eight.

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Yes, sir, since two thousand and eight, I have had

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four sidings, and I've had just tons and I mean

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tons of interactions with them throughout the years. Most of

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my areas, I keep stuff going. Anything I see they

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do undo so that I can keep the interactions going.

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So, yeah, take us back to the beginning, how this

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all started for you and how you first realize that, yeah,

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there's something going on out here.

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Okay. The way it started is actually kind of funny.

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There was a guy moved in up above me. His

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wife family has other land here in the county that

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I live in, and they've moved up from Florida. And

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I was actually outside skin and the deer. I'd been

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deer hunting and I'm skinning my deer out and this

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guy comes up and he says, hey, my name's no

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from Corbett. I just moved down the hill up here

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and I'll get back with you. I see you liked

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hunting fish. I liked hunting fish too. I mean, just

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talking fast, I couldn't hardly keep up with him. And

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he said, i'll see you in about two weeks. And

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he went back to this truck and took off, and

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my wife walked up and said, who in the world

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was at And I said, well, I've got his name

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is Notion for it. He just moved in up here

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and he likes to hunt and fish and sees that

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I do too. So he's going to give me a

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cold and in a couple of weeks and you know,

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just see if we become friends or whatever, just hang out.

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So in about two weeks, just true to his word,

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he showed up and he said, let's go fishing. I said, okay,

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let's go. So we headed out and he was talking

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to me and talking about the property that they have

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up here. It's eighty six sacred surrounded all by National

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Forest and it is actually locked behind for service gates.

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They are the only ones them and the Forest Service

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saw are the only ones that have access to the gate.

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So he said, it's going to be a good place

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for us to hunt. If you'll help me put out

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feeders and all that kind of stuff. He said, then

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then we'll start hunting up there. And I told him,

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I said, yeah, that'd be awesome. Just let me know

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when and what. So he told me he said the

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first thing we got to do is play a trick

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on my boys. And I said, okay, not written on

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what he meant. He said that they had snuck a

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set of Valla deer horns out of the cabin into

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the front of his trail cabin and whenever they've done that,

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they just stuck the horns around so you couldn't see

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nothing but the horns. And he seen that picture and

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he was like, that was actually back when trail Can's

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had the thirty five millimeter cameras in him, and so

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he went and got it developed. The first thing he

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sees is that deer, and he said. He told his wife,

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I said, I've got to get in the woods. These

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things ain't coming around here. He said, I ain't a

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coming out of the woods till I do. And she said,

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did you look at any other pictures? He said, no,

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I ain't got time. And his on Benie wingies and

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unies and all that crackers and stuff in the buggy.

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He's getting ready to go sit on the deer stand

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that evening, and she finally got him talked into going

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and letting out that other pictures. And the very next

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one is his boy, both of his boys and their

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friends holding those deer. And he told me, he said,

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so we have got to pay them back. And I

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told him, I said, all right. For some reason, I

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remember this at the time, I hadn't thought about it

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in Here's I told him. Back in the seventies, my

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dad had one of his friends was hunting and they

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come across some tracks in the snow that was barefooted.

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My dad friend is about probably six five sixty six.

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You wears a size thirteen shoe, and it was bigger

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than his shoe. And in one of the locations in

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this county called Standing Indian, that's a big campground, the

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national forest and all of that. And they had seen

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that track back in the seventies. And I told Notion

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about it, and I told him, I said, I tell

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you what we'll do. I make you said of those tracks,

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and whenever I get those, Maide, we'll go. We'll put

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some tracks up and we'll just have some fun with him.

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And he said, yeah, that'll work. So we did. We

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went up there and put tracks down in the wood

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and broke a few limbs and stuff like that. And

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honest to us, I never would have thought of the

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big foot around here. If they what truly was something. Can.

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I figured they'd be out west somewhere, and so we

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done real good and made up some stuff for them

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to find. And now his boys, that was in their

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mid twenties, so you know, it's not like little kids

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or nothing. But he said, I'll come up with them

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tomorrow and we'll go with them and see what they think.

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And I told him, I said, you'll have to go

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by yourself, because you go, I'll get tickled. I can't.

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I can't. I can't have myself that good. And so

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I stayed at the house and he went up and

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they walked out by the tracks to start with, and

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he told him, he said, now you ain't getting me again.

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I see this tracking is made and they said walk

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track and he said, this one right here. And when

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they seen it, they just freaked out, Oh lord, daddy,

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we've got bigfoots on the property. We're going to have

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to get over the trail. Can we can bind it

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and the woods and get pictures of them that'll be

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worth a lot of money. And they just took it

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hook line and sinker. And so they had a band

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at the time, and they had to play that night,

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and they was actually going to cancel their gig and

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get in the woods, and Noosen told him, said, no,

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you've got to honor your words. So they went on

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to their gig. And while they was at the gig,

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nowson was with them, of course, so I snuck up

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there and messed things up on the porch, turned chairs

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over and throw clothes on top of the house and

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all of this stuff. And whenever they got home, about

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two o'clock in the morning, they called her dad and

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told him, said that thing's been back up here while

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we was gone. So the joke went over real big,

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and the next day they finally figured out it was us.

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So everybody got a good life out of it, and

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men newsm started putting things out and that kind of stuff.

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And there was a hog root in his yard up

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so we got up in the top of the loft

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of this little cabin and waited on for it to

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come out. One evening and the spot where it said

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has got creek and laurel bushes real heavy around it,

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and there was three raccoons come out of the laurel

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bushes and out into the yard, and they fed around

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there in the yard for a few minutes, and then

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turned around and run back in to the bushes, and

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when they did, one of them grabbed one of the raccoons.

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At the time, we didn't know what it was, but

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it grabbed one of the raccoons and started killing it.

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And I don't know if your listeners know what that

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sound is like, but it it's a terrible sound. And

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the coon quit squawling, and all of a sudden, you

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just heard a big and everything went dead quiet. And

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I looked at him and I told him, I said, buddy, boy,

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I know every animal in these woods. I have seen

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black panthers, I have seen the red wolfs that we

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have that they turned back in the fifties, turned up

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in the fifties. I said, I have seen all of that,

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and this one I can't explain. Number One, it wasn't

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a dog because there was snow barking whatever jumped on

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that coon. You know, a big sized coon pus up

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a pretty good fight. So I knew it wasn't a dog,

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and I knew it wasn't somebody. And I knew it

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wasn't a bear because the roarer that it does. A

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bear don't make that kind of roar. They're just more

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they just actually just more huff than anything. And we

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were sitting there talking requite about what it could be,

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and then it started whistling, and I told him, I said, buddy, boy,

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I do not know what this is. I said, the

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sound that it made, I don't know. And for it

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to start whistling after that, I definitely don't know what

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it was. And it would whistle every few seconds, and

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about every ten to fifteen seconds, I'd say, And we

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decided we'd go outside and see what we could see.

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And when we turned the lights on in the in

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the top loft of the cabin, it wit whistling. And

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we went outside and never heard it no more, never

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thought that much about it. And from then on things

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started happening. The more that we was up there, the

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more things would happen. We would put up put up feeders,

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cut trails through the woods that we wanted to deer

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where we wanted to deer hunt wouldn't make us a trail,

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and we would come back and brush would be piled

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up on the trails going to our deer stand. Our

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feeders would be messed with the trail, cameras would be

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messed with. That kind of stuff. So we started paying

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a little bit more attention to what was actually going on,

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and you know, we started to realize that these limbs

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and stuff that are being carried in, they've been drunk off.

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They've not been broke by byre nothing like that. They've

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not been chewed on or anything like that. They had

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actually been just like somebody had put their hands and

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wrapped them off the trees. And the more like I

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was saying, the more we was up there, the more

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stuff that we had happened. We was putting one of

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the feeders up and I'm holding the ladder for him

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and the rockets behind me, and it's in the middle

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of the winter, so we know there's no records falling,

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nothing like that, nothing else it could have been. And

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I asked him, I said, did you drop something? And

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he said no. I said, I think I heard something

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hit behind me and he said, yeah, I did too.

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And so we started just you know, just being a

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little more cautious and looking around. We never did see anything.

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We went back up to that same feeder a few

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days later and was going to fill it back up

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and we started putting the corn in it and one

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yelled and it done. The long drawled out yell like

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Bobo does on finding Bigfoot, that big long drawl, and

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it was so loud that it just made your whole

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body shape. And when it started, we thought it was

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actually an airplane of coming across the ridge real low,

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because the Forest Service had been doing some mapping and

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for logging areas and stuff. But when it tapered off,

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we could tell it wasn't but about fifty to seventy

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yards abug. And that was the first other than the grail,

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the roar that it did when it got the comb,

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that was the first vocalization that we heard. And it

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really got our attention. You know. We didn't slow down

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of what we was doing, but we started paying a

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lot more attention, taking pictures of stuff that was happening

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and and that kind of stuff. And that went on

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for years. I mean, every time we would go up there,

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we would have some kind of interaction, whether we was

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getting yelled at, or stuff being placed in our trails,

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going to our to our deer stands, and like I said,

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messing with the feeders and the trail cameras. And I

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was up there one evening, me and Newsom was a

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deer hunting and I'm sitting there and I hear two

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people what I thought was people at the beginning start talking,

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and I could understand everything they said except the language.

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It was a language I've never heard of. And I

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text Newsom. That was on a Tuesday evening, and I

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texted him and I told him, I said, I hear

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somebody on your property. I said, I can tell that

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there's two of them, but what they're saying don't make

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any sense. I've never heard that language before, and I

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have got Native American Cherokee in my family, so I

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have actually heard Verd language, and honestly was a lot

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like Native American language, but with monkey gibbers thrown in,

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you know, grunts and that kind of stuff and squeaks

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and everything. So he told me, he said, well, sit

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still until it gets dark, because whoever it is will

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have to turn the lights on to get out. Well,

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we set to way way after dark and no lights

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ever come on. So we just decided to leave, and

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then with back in there on Thursday of the same week,

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and it happened again. And all of this is happening,

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so we're starting to put the puzzle together that there's

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actually something up there, especially once we heard the big long,

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drawed out yelled that it does or how whatever you

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want to call it. I'd actually heard Bobo do that

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on finding Bigfoot, and when I heard that, I thought, well,

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that's exactly what Bobo does. And I told my buddy,

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I said, you may have some bigfoots up here, and

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he was like, you recognize, said, well, things is sort

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of adding up that way. And after for about two

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two and a half years, every time we would go in,

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they was either throwing stuff or putting stuff in our trails.

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My buddy passed away and I lost rights to go

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on to the property, but until we quit going on

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his property, we were still getting stuff put in our trails.

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I mean tops of pine trees broke out and drove

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into the ground, big bushes and trees broke over the trail.

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The yelling and rock throwing and stuff stopped after about

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two years, but messing with our trails and their cameras

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and stuff that continued up until he got sick, and

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I think it was twenty twenty.

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Jim, I definitely have a few questions for you. This is,

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i mean, a really incredible area, it sounds like, and

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I'm I'm sorry that you you lost your friend as well.

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That's that's just extremely sad to hear that he has passed.

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There's probably a question that a few listeners are thinking,

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so I'm going to ask it, Yes, what was it

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that did you ever have the thought when this first

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started that oh, is this just the is this just

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a retaliation prank or what was it that made you think, Okay,

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this is real and not just the boys trying to

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prank us back after we got them back.

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One thing was the Bulls was still living in Florida.

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They was on their own and they was traveling with

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the band around all over Florida and Tennessee. And was

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it up here when things was happening. That was one

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of the first things is that we where we had

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our trail cameras. The Bullet knew about, but you would

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walk right by without ever seeing them. So we knew

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there wasn't nobody coming on his properties. Not only did

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we have trail cameras in the woods, but we also

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had them on the driveway coming up in case people

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wanted to come in trespassing and that kind of stuff.

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But the way that we knew it wasn't his buys

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is that they was not even in the state at

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the time when most of this was going on.

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That makes a lot of sense. Were there ever any

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Did you ever have any visuals on the property of

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all of the creatures at all?

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Not on this property. I didn't I have seen then,

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but you would sort of have to see the layout

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of the property. It's actually laying at the mouth of

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word two little valleys come down and just one little

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flat spot. I mean, it was about the only place

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you could tell the house and the rest of it

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is high mountain ridges and it is absolutely full of

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laurel bushes rhododendrons. We call them laurel bushes around here.

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But just the lay of the land, what I have

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worn since then is it's hard to get above them.

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They're always going to have the high ground. And on

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his property, they seemed to stay on the ridge right

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behind his house, so that whenever we come in, they

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would know we was there as soon as we pulled

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into the driveway.

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Did you ever were you able to ever get any

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audio recorded on the property?

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Not there? And that's one thing hit myself about. I

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was just documenting stuff on my phone. I wasn't really

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into researching that. I would document stuff, you know, like

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footprints and what they had break limbs over and that

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kind of stuff. But I never really got into into

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the documentation and audio recording and all of that stuff

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until I met the guys that I'm in a group

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with now called Dirty Sack Dirty South Squashing, and they

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got me to taught me how to build recorders. Our

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audio recorders will record twenty four hours a day for

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two weeks, and then we have to go in and

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change them, and so they have got me got me

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in on learning how to do that, and I have

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got a lot better at it. But I'm also a

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lot of the times that I'm in the woods, I

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am actually deer hunting, hall hunting that kind of stuff.

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So I ain't always got one of our pros on

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men all of that stuff because it just gets too

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much to carry. But we do have certain research areas

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that have high activity, and that is where we do

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most of our research in that.

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Now, do you feel like you ever had any communication

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with the creatures on that property back and forth?

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I do. I honestly think that they had come to

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accept us. The me and my dad was up there

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bow hunting and it was getting that time evening for

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deering stuff to start moving. And this was in twenty sixteen,

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back when it was a drive that we had all

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the wildfires, and I actually, this is one of the

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few times I have ever heard one come in around me.

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But at first I thought it was deer. And it's

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in November, so all the acrons and hickory nuts and

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all that stuff's off the trees, and there's rock lands

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about fifty yards out from me. And I felt comfortable

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enough and been around them enough to know that they

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wasn't going to hurt me, or if they was, they

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could have done it, you know, years ago. So I thought, well,

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I'm just gonna sit here and see how close they'll

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throw the rocks. And the next one he had about

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thirty five forty yards from me, and then about twenty yards,

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and then about ten yards, and then the next one

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landed about a foot and a half from my foot,

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and I thought, well, it's definitely time to go. And

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I called my dad and told him. I said, well,

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they're up here throwing rocks at me. It's time to go.

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And he told me he had never heard him do

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the whistle, and he was telling me there's where he

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was at. We took an old portage on and made

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a blind out of it, and he hunted up closer

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to the theater and he told me, he said, there

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was something down at the portagehn blind and it would

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whistle once, and something straight above me between me and you,

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it would whistle twice. And evidently what it had done

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was the second one that was done. The two whistles,

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it circled in around above me, and when it was

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time to go, they just let me know. I know,

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it's sort of hard to figure out, but I honestly

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felt like that they was used to us and knew

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that we wasn't a threat, and when they didn't want

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us around, instead of being aggressive or anything like that,

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they would just suddenly, you know, let us know, usually

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rocks ben throwed, or a stick throat through the wood

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top of the trees or something like that.

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Did you ever try whistling back?

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I do, And that is actually when I was talking

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about the noose being on the ladder putting the feeder up,

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I had actually been standing there doing the whistle. And

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it probably wasn't five minutes after being up there that

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it through the rock in behind us. For some reason,

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and I don't know why, I do it, but it

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has been stuck in my head, and I'll find myself

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just walking through the grocery store, Walmart or wherever, and

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I'll be doing that whistle And I honestly don't know

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why I'm but it's just something that is stuck with me,

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and I actually do it when I'm in the woods

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and won't even realize I'm even doing it.

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Is that something where you could do that right now?

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Maybe not directly into the phone, but to this side,

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it'd just be would it would be interesting to hear

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what it sounded like?

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Yeah, let me get a ship water.

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Oh, sorry to put you on the spot.

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Oh that's okay. It's just a single note to just go.

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That wasn't very loud.

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Oh really? Oh boy, that sounds familiar. Yes, I've heard

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that something similar in Oregon. Yeah, and we had there's

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a communication going back and forth and it was the

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most it was the most interesting, slash horrifying thing I've

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ever seen, just the communication between one of our group

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and whatever it was just in the tree line. M

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h man, that sounds familiar, dude, wow mm hmm.

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Wow. I'm glad. I'm glad that you recognized it. That

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why they know I'm not just making something. No, you're not.

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You're absolutely not. Wow, it sounds before we move on

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from this area. So it sounds like this area was

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sold after sold to someone else.

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No, once he died, his daughter got married, and the

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son in law started keeping things up up there, so

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they was you know, I only went up fire because

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of being him, being friends and doing stuff together. And

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there was really no reason for me to go back

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up there because his son in law took over and

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was is a lot younger than both of us, so

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I helped him. You know, we was always bowing and

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just keeping the place up and I the son in

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law took over that, so there's really been no reason

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for me to go back up there.

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It would be interesting enough if that son in law

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is having issues happen or things happen on that property,

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I would guess it didn't just go away, But you

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never know.

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Oh, and I've talked to him and he still gets

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that creeped out feeling when goose up there, like something

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to watching him and and that kind of stuff. And

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one of my research areas is actually just across the

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ridge from his property, and we have that is where

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I saw my second one, and we get a lot

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of audio and that kind of stuff from from that area.

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Like I say, which is just across the ridge from

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Newsom's family's property. If they if it wasn't such a

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big bridge and it was just a straight line, I

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would say it wouldn't be not even high a mile.

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Oh okay, So I see what you did. So if

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you can't get in that area, I just make a

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research area relatively close to it. And it's probably the

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same bigfoot Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it. That's smart.

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Can you walk us through what kind of things you

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experienced over in that area? And it sounds like you

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had some actual visual sightings over.

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There, Yes, sir, that area I was actually that was

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actually one of my main hunting places. And then once

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I started learning the signs that they leave, I started

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recognizing it in that area. And that is when I

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met Bob Trent and Dwight Campbell. They're the two founders

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of Dirty South Squatting and d White come up and

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went with men. We started putting audio recorders in there,

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and we've got a lot of good stuff out of

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our one. And this is it's on the subject, but

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it's one of them things that we still ain't figured out.

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On our audio recorders, at about two thirty in the morning,

458
00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:02.720
you hear what sounds like two hammer heads hitting together.

459
00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:06.839
And this place is about a mile and a half

460
00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:10.079
back into the woods. So that's one weird thing that

461
00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:14.079
we've never figured out what in the world that was,

462
00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:18.680
but we have got good audio. Day we actually had

463
00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:23.200
them walking up and sniffing and smelling the recorder, throwing

464
00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:27.400
rocks at the recorder, or I'm pretty sure it was rocks.

465
00:29:28.039 --> 00:29:31.319
It could have been acrons, but the time of year,

466
00:29:31.359 --> 00:29:35.480
they're probably eating the acrons instead of instead of throwing them.

467
00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:40.079
Also in that area, we is wor that. Like I

468
00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:44.039
was saying, I saw my second one. We were walking

469
00:29:44.119 --> 00:29:47.480
in one day to change all of our audio records

470
00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:53.119
out in their trail cans, and we smelled one. And

471
00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:57.680
just so people know, they don't smell all the time,

472
00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:00.839
they can do it just like a skump does. And

473
00:30:01.160 --> 00:30:03.920
the reason that we know this on multiple times we've

474
00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:08.519
had them up windows and you will smell and then

475
00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:11.440
they'll follow right along with you. You'll hear them right

476
00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:15.160
up above you, and the wind's not change directions, but

477
00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:18.160
you don't smell them, so they do not smell all

478
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:21.400
the time, but we actually smelled that one, and we're

479
00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:25.599
standing there talking about it. It was in an old,

480
00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:30.640
growed up clear cut and everything was quiet. There wasn't

481
00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:36.279
no birds making, no noise or nothing. And we're standing

482
00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:39.880
there talking about smelling that and I seen something moving

483
00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:44.079
the clear cut and I told my buddy d why.

484
00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:47.400
I said, there's something and moving in that clearcut. So

485
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:49.880
we stood there and talked a little while longer, and

486
00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:52.960
I've seen it move again, and I told him, I said,

487
00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:55.359
there's definitely something moving in that clear cut, and I

488
00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:59.559
showed him worse. So he took his camera and zoomed in.

489
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:03.799
There was one behind a big burn of dirt with

490
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:08.119
nothing just its head over top, and it actually had

491
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:12.240
a big green leaf across its forehead you can see

492
00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:15.920
in the picture across its forehead and you can see

493
00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:19.240
it si Sowet's the gridge of its snow sticking out

494
00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:23.799
and the comical shake to its head. So that was

495
00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:29.440
the second one that I had ever seen. And that

496
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:31.680
one followed us all the way in there and back

497
00:31:31.720 --> 00:31:34.279
out that day, And like I said, about a mile

498
00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:35.880
and a half in there, and the mount of half

499
00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:36.640
back out.

500
00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:42.119
So you saw it through the camera. Did you actually

501
00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:43.119
see it move as well?

502
00:31:43.759 --> 00:31:46.880
I've seen it move. That's what got us to got

503
00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:51.319
him to take the camera and zone men. Oh thick

504
00:31:51.720 --> 00:31:53.799
that it was hard to see with the naked eye,

505
00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:57.200
but when he zoomed in with his camera and done

506
00:31:57.319 --> 00:32:04.240
just a panoramic video, you could see it. Wow.

507
00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:06.240
And you could see it moving as well during that

508
00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:07.279
time when it was zoomed in.

509
00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:11.440
Yeah. Wow. Is that?

510
00:32:11.680 --> 00:32:15.960
Are those available to see anywhere? Is that private research stuff?

511
00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:20.839
Now? They should be. They've been posted on our well, actually,

512
00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:24.640
I tell you on YouTube. If you go to White

513
00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:28.519
Campbell on YouTube, you can find the video on there.

514
00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:32.480
The name of it is a deer flush and a

515
00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:37.799
bigfoot or something like that. Okay, deer flush on it

516
00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:42.119
and bigfoot on it. I don't remeame the very jack topic,

517
00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:43.240
but that's close.

518
00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:45.839
To what it is, gotcha. I will have to check

519
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:48.519
that out later. I did find the video. I'll make

520
00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:51.160
sure it's it's linked in the show notes for this

521
00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:54.160
so people can check it out.

522
00:32:55.720 --> 00:32:59.039
And also in this area, I went in one morning

523
00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:02.319
boat hunting and I got up to where I said that,

524
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:05.920
and I actually sat close to where our recorder audio

525
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:10.319
recorder is, and I just it was that time of

526
00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:13.759
the morning where I could just start walking without a flashlight.

527
00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:17.480
It was daylight enough to where I could see about

528
00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:21.720
thirty forty yards ahead of me, you know good. And

529
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:26.359
I'm standing there, and I take my crossbow off my

530
00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:29.119
shoulder and lean it against the train and get ready.

531
00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:31.920
And when I hunt on the ground, I don't hunt

532
00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:34.359
out of the tree stand, I said. I sat on

533
00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:38.960
the ground, And so I took that the crossbowl off

534
00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:41.160
and set it down and was getting ready to take

535
00:33:41.319 --> 00:33:45.279
my backpack off. And there was a door run down

536
00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:49.319
the hill, and I knew something wasn't right because her

537
00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:53.720
eyes was real big, in her mouth wide open, like

538
00:33:53.880 --> 00:33:57.680
she's being chased. And when she seen me, she stopped

539
00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:01.200
and looked at me for just a few seconds and

540
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:04.119
then turn around and run back up the hill. She

541
00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:08.920
runs probably sixty seventy yards up the hill and stops

542
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:11.760
and is looking up the hill and turned around and

543
00:34:11.880 --> 00:34:15.519
runs back down to me. Does that about six or

544
00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:20.079
seven times, just running from up from me, back up,

545
00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:23.480
and then she finally stopped about halfway, which was out

546
00:34:23.519 --> 00:34:26.599
of boat range. I'm just sitting there watching her, and

547
00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:30.280
she's looking at me and looking up the hill like

548
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:34.800
she don't know what to do, and I'm thinking, well,

549
00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:37.639
what's from of this crazy thing? Is the first thing

550
00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:40.960
that I thought, And I just kept watching her, and

551
00:34:41.119 --> 00:34:44.119
she finally eased out a side off over the side

552
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:48.320
of the ridge that I was on, and in about

553
00:34:48.320 --> 00:34:51.760
an hour after that, maybe an iron hat two of

554
00:34:51.880 --> 00:34:55.519
them come through the tops of the clear cut and

555
00:34:55.639 --> 00:34:58.679
they started hollering at me, and honest againness, I know

556
00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:01.480
it sounds funny, but it sounded like they was cussing

557
00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:06.159
me out, and you could tell that there was two

558
00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:11.039
of them doing that, And I honestly think what I

559
00:35:11.559 --> 00:35:16.320
had done was I was I was walked into where

560
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:19.199
the deer was supposed to run to, and the other

561
00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:22.440
one was supposed to be watching for it, but when

562
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:26.960
I come in, it had to go hide, and that

563
00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:29.039
sort of missed their deer driver.

564
00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:33.519
The ones that were yelling at you, were you able

565
00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:36.360
to actually visually see them at that time, or just

566
00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:38.880
you could tell they were there because the yells were

567
00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:39.400
in the area.

568
00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:43.960
I could just tell they was there. They was probably

569
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:48.800
probably two hundred yards from me, going around back around

570
00:35:48.920 --> 00:35:53.360
the top of the mountain towards Newsom's side. Of the ridge.

571
00:35:56.760 --> 00:36:00.840
Have you had multiple visual settings in that area or

572
00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:02.960
was that the main one?

573
00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:05.920
No, that was That's the only one that I've had

574
00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:12.360
in that area. And and we still have audio recorders

575
00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:20.320
and trail cam's going in that area. Have you.

576
00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:29.400
This is kind of maybe out of the ordinary questions.

577
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:31.039
Here, Oh that's okay, yeah, yeah?

578
00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:36.239
And have there has there ever been any Have you

579
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:39.320
ever heard anything in your mind or has going into

580
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:41.920
the areas affected your dreams afterwards?

581
00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:48.360
No? Not, I've never. I've heard people talk about mine,

582
00:36:48.840 --> 00:36:52.199
mine speak or whatever you want to, but I've never

583
00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:56.719
I've never witnessed that. I keep telling people, and I'm

584
00:36:56.800 --> 00:36:58.920
not making fun of people that do, but I just

585
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:01.760
tell them I must be on the wrong signal or something,

586
00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:07.320
because I've heard anything like that. You know that area

587
00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:12.079
for over well it's by almost a year to the day,

588
00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:16.199
But that area I could not go into. I would

589
00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:20.719
get up there and it was just a thing of dread,

590
00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:26.199
just like, do not go in here. I've had that

591
00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:30.920
happened a couple of times, and one time it kept

592
00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:35.320
me from walking into a down tire line one morning hunting.

593
00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:38.239
If I had to listen to it, I would have

594
00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:42.440
walked directly into a live pire line that had the

595
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:44.519
top of the pole had broke off and then had

596
00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:48.159
come down, But it happened went low enough to touch

597
00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:52.000
the ground. And I'm lettle over six feet tall, so

598
00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:55.039
I would have walked straight into it if I happened

599
00:37:55.039 --> 00:37:59.320
to haed it that morning. So Ever since then, I

600
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:02.400
listened to it, and for a year I could not

601
00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:06.360
go into that dare you? And and it left just

602
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:09.199
as soon as it started. I do not know if

603
00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:14.480
if maybe there was one in there that had maybe

604
00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:19.400
been hurt, that was a threat, or one that's maybe

605
00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:23.039
been run off and was aggressive or what. I don't know,

606
00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:26.679
but I do know for and that's the only place

607
00:38:26.760 --> 00:38:30.199
that I've ever felt that way about. But it was

608
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:34.480
at least a solid year before I could go in there.

609
00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:38.800
So just to clarify, during that time, you were just

610
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:41.679
having a really bad feeling not to go into that

611
00:38:41.800 --> 00:38:45.519
area where you're actually hearing something that said don't go

612
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:45.960
in here.

613
00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:51.599
It was actually just that gut feeling like I don't

614
00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:58.000
and it would almost bring fear opponent, not that you know,

615
00:38:58.440 --> 00:39:02.239
just whatever you do, who do not go into this area.

616
00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:07.079
There's other places around it that hunted maybe a high

617
00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:11.199
three quarters miles away. Had no problem going to those places,

618
00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:15.280
but it was just this one particular area.

619
00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:20.760
Has there ever been a time where you're out there

620
00:39:20.920 --> 00:39:25.880
doing you know, Bigfoot related research and just things have

621
00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:30.840
gotten very intense in a way that you're like, you know,

622
00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:33.239
we should really get out of here right now.

623
00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:40.760
I've had some intense times we have actually been bluff charged.

624
00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:45.400
This was in another area in the county that I

625
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:52.559
live in. I have had encounters in five different places

626
00:39:53.239 --> 00:39:56.599
throughout the county, so I know there's no way that

627
00:39:56.760 --> 00:39:59.639
that one group of them can be running from one

628
00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:01.840
spot up to the other spot to the other spot,

629
00:40:01.960 --> 00:40:05.519
so there has to be at least five groups of

630
00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:08.920
them here in the county. And I was taken d

631
00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:12.679
White and a lady named Robin Munshadow. She had come

632
00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:17.239
down from Canada to go with us, and we were

633
00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:20.400
I took them to a place called Scaly Mountain that's

634
00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:27.559
on the North Carolina Georgia border, and back there we

635
00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:30.239
went in the winter. We went in February, but back

636
00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:34.400
before that, in like October November, were fixing on a

637
00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:37.960
place from my dad to deer Hunt. And when we

638
00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:40.880
come back around through the Pine Ticket you could see

639
00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:43.280
where one had reached up and grabbed a hold of

640
00:40:43.320 --> 00:40:45.360
a tree and pulled the bark off of it. You

641
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:48.679
can see where the thumb wrapped around the tree and

642
00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:52.159
where the other four fingers. You know, you could see

643
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:56.320
all of that clear, and I was taking the white

644
00:40:56.440 --> 00:41:00.800
and robbing up there to show them. And when you

645
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:03.159
pull up, you go behind the fire service gate and

646
00:41:03.239 --> 00:41:06.320
go out a little road maybe one hundred and fifty yards,

647
00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:10.360
and then you go out an old logging road until

648
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:13.639
you left where we seen some structures on the right

649
00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:16.840
hand side. So we dropped off of that side and

650
00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:20.159
all of those pictures and all of that stuff, and

651
00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:22.239
we come back going to go around the road to

652
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:26.360
where the pine tree was that had been clawed on,

653
00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:29.719
and we hear something up on top of the ridge

654
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:32.920
just start teaching a fit. Even the stuff up at

655
00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:37.039
news them. I'd never heard anything like this, and it

656
00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:40.639
come and just kept out of side enough to wear

657
00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:43.639
it to whear that we couldn't see it, but we

658
00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:47.360
definitely heard it, and it got between us and our vehicles.

659
00:41:48.559 --> 00:41:51.199
And that is the only time that I've ever put

660
00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:54.960
my hand on my pistol. I always carry one because

661
00:41:55.000 --> 00:41:59.480
you never know with rabbit, coons and foxes and wild

662
00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:02.639
hogs and that kind of stuff, so always carry it

663
00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:05.239
for back up. I don't think I ever had to

664
00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:07.719
use it on a big foot, but it's most of

665
00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:11.239
the other animals. But anyway, it got in between us

666
00:42:11.320 --> 00:42:13.639
and our vehicle and it was done a sound that

667
00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:17.320
if you look it up, because once I heard it,

668
00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:20.840
I actually went and looked up a silver back gorilla

669
00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:27.559
bluff charge and it's just a go like that, except

670
00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:30.679
it is so loud, and I mean you feel it.

671
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:35.239
It was so loud, and we just stood there. We

672
00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:38.880
have learnt don't run because it's like a cat and

673
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:42.920
a mouse if you play dead or we act like

674
00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:45.840
we just don't hear them, and we let them do

675
00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:49.840
their stuff and go wong. You know, if the mouse

676
00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:54.039
plays dead, the cat loves his interest, and so we

677
00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:57.440
just dre let it, let her do her thing. And

678
00:42:57.599 --> 00:43:01.280
then she moved on and we went ahead, and I

679
00:43:01.400 --> 00:43:03.519
went out showed them the tree, and we dropped off

680
00:43:03.639 --> 00:43:07.840
down or she went through, and we found some small

681
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:11.440
tracks in there that might have been five inches long

682
00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:16.360
six at the most, so more than likely she had.

683
00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:20.239
And we also found the nest down there, so more

684
00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:23.039
than likely she had a small one down in the

685
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:25.199
mass where she could watch it from the top of

686
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:29.559
that ridge, and when we started in between her and

687
00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:32.440
the little one, she come off and got it and

688
00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:32.960
moved on.

689
00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:37.440
I mean, that could have been an extremely dangerous situation.

690
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:40.039
I mean, just think of what happens with a normal

691
00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:43.960
animal in the wild, and then if you're too if

692
00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:49.480
you buy a mistake mess with the younger animal. I mean,

693
00:43:49.719 --> 00:43:54.000
the female mother animals can get very very intense, and

694
00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:56.719
they could you know, I mean, in this situation, you'd

695
00:43:56.800 --> 00:43:59.840
easily be taken out. But there's a bluff charge. So

696
00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:03.119
if I continue down the road that I'm going, there's

697
00:44:03.159 --> 00:44:05.599
a high likelihood that I'll probably get into one of

698
00:44:05.639 --> 00:44:09.960
those situations myself one day with a bluff charge. That

699
00:44:10.039 --> 00:44:15.079
must be a really intense situation where internally are you

700
00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:18.000
Is there a struggle where you're like just run your

701
00:44:18.039 --> 00:44:20.519
bodies like saying just run, but you have to mentally

702
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:24.360
say don't go anywhere. That is there back and forth

703
00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:26.000
going on in that situation.

704
00:44:25.880 --> 00:44:30.639
Or really no, And I don't know if it's because

705
00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:33.559
I've been in the woods so much. Just like a

706
00:44:34.199 --> 00:44:38.119
black bear, you don't want to run from them. You

707
00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:41.400
stayed your ground and tried to look bigger, and for

708
00:44:41.559 --> 00:44:47.079
some reason, it never entered my mind to run. And

709
00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:52.840
I was confident that if we just stood still that

710
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:56.039
she would, you know, because if they really wanted to

711
00:44:56.159 --> 00:45:01.079
hurt us, like I said before, there's been probably hundreds,

712
00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:03.880
if not thousands of times they could have done something

713
00:45:03.960 --> 00:45:08.400
to us and we didn't never seen it coming. And

714
00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:12.079
so I was pretty confident if we just stood still

715
00:45:12.159 --> 00:45:15.280
and let her do whatever it was that she wanted

716
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:19.000
to do and let it move on, then we would

717
00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:19.639
probably be.

718
00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:26.119
Okay, gotcha? Do you ever leave? Are there gifting situations

719
00:45:26.159 --> 00:45:28.000
that are going on this area? Is that something that

720
00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:29.320
you stay away from?

721
00:45:31.320 --> 00:45:36.039
I actually stay away from it, especially gifting food. I

722
00:45:36.159 --> 00:45:42.519
have ball and not in the my main research area

723
00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:45.880
right now, standing Indian. I have taken a ball that

724
00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:51.559
when it bounced, it lights up, and I've left that

725
00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:55.320
I have left. If you look in the grocery store

726
00:45:55.440 --> 00:45:58.559
or Walmart, you'll see the tubs of chewing gum of

727
00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:02.400
like juicy fruit, that kind of stuff, and I have

728
00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:06.039
actually left one of those. I took all the papers

729
00:46:06.079 --> 00:46:08.360
off of it because I don't want to liver, but

730
00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:11.280
I left just one piece of gum in it and

731
00:46:11.480 --> 00:46:14.800
it got to missing. The last time that we was

732
00:46:14.920 --> 00:46:18.760
in our research area there, I left a it looked

733
00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:24.280
like a plastic yellow cran and we honestly think we

734
00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:29.039
found what we called a play area up there, So

735
00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:32.920
I left that on top of one of the trees

736
00:46:33.000 --> 00:46:37.239
that they had carried in and leaned over. We're going

737
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:41.679
back this Saturday to check it, so hopefully we can

738
00:46:41.880 --> 00:46:44.199
see if they have got it or not. But I

739
00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:48.840
do not ever put food out because just like bears,

740
00:46:49.159 --> 00:46:53.760
I don't want them to associate people with food. All

741
00:46:53.880 --> 00:46:57.840
my places that I do this is on public land,

742
00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:01.280
and I don't want me to have been carrying the

743
00:47:01.320 --> 00:47:04.679
food in there and them get to expecting when they

744
00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:08.559
see people to expect food, and then somebody goes in

745
00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:13.360
without in and they get aggressive. And I don't think

746
00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:17.079
somebody would get hurt, but I think that it might

747
00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:19.639
scare them enough to where they wanted to hurt the bigfoots,

748
00:47:19.719 --> 00:47:22.760
you know, maybe take a shot at them or something

749
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:27.199
like that. So I stay away from the food's I mean,

750
00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:30.039
it may work. I've got a good friend of mine

751
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:34.079
that has done it, and he would take in, go

752
00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:37.320
in and leave Moon pies and that kind of stuff

753
00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:41.079
and ring a bell and they would come in after

754
00:47:41.199 --> 00:47:44.639
he runs that bell and get his moon pies and stuff.

755
00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:48.719
But I just don't want to do that on public land.

756
00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:52.039
Well, it sounds like what your friend is doing is

757
00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:55.000
he's setting up a Pavlovian response, which is, you know

758
00:47:55.199 --> 00:47:57.920
the famous experiment with the I believe it's a dog

759
00:47:58.159 --> 00:48:03.480
in the bell and the food. And I mean, yeah, yeah,

760
00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:05.639
there's probably a different way, a few different ways to

761
00:48:05.679 --> 00:48:08.960
look at that, but that's pretty incredible that he's set.

762
00:48:08.840 --> 00:48:09.199
It up that.

763
00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:12.760
I mean, he just has to rampel and literally the

764
00:48:13.239 --> 00:48:14.280
bigfoot come running.

765
00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:23.079
Well, and he's actually got videos and stuff that he's

766
00:48:23.159 --> 00:48:28.960
been offered ten thousand dollars to put out, and he

767
00:48:29.079 --> 00:48:33.079
won't do it because he don't want Number one, he

768
00:48:33.159 --> 00:48:35.840
don't want them bothered, you know what I mean. He's

769
00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:40.599
a he's a and he's like, if we start putting

770
00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:44.760
stuff like this out, then everybody and their cousin's going

771
00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:46.639
to run into the woods of thinking that they can

772
00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:51.320
put moon pie's in the dinner bill. And and if

773
00:48:51.400 --> 00:48:53.800
people get hurt, that's one thing, but they don't want

774
00:48:54.039 --> 00:48:55.119
them to get hurt either.

775
00:48:56.039 --> 00:48:59.199
I'm guessing this is a gentleman who's kind of staying

776
00:48:59.320 --> 00:49:02.880
under the wire. Probably not a big presence online stuff

777
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:03.079
like that.

778
00:49:03.880 --> 00:49:06.440
Yeah, well I can give you his name. His name

779
00:49:06.599 --> 00:49:12.280
is Doug Tigue. He was actually on the show, if

780
00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:17.199
I ain't mistaken the evidences out there, and it actually

781
00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:20.559
shows one up on the hill. Of course, the ones

782
00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:23.360
that was supposed to be experts on the show. Oh,

783
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:26.639
that's probably somebody in a in a suit or something

784
00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:30.000
like this. And if it is, then they're bigger than

785
00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:31.719
Humming Herman monsters.

786
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:35.760
All I can say, right, yeah, exactly, that's that's a

787
00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:37.239
classic show right there.

788
00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:42.039
Ever since that he put that out, and you know,

789
00:49:43.320 --> 00:49:45.679
you can tell if you spend any times in the

790
00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:47.960
woods and I've seen them, you could tell definitely that

791
00:49:48.119 --> 00:49:52.079
it was one watching him. His dog got quite and

792
00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:55.039
they was like, boy, if it was a true Bigfoot,

793
00:49:55.079 --> 00:49:59.079
that dog would go crazy. Actually, dogs will tuck their

794
00:49:59.159 --> 00:50:02.719
tail on under them run. I mean the biggest, baddest

795
00:50:02.840 --> 00:50:07.239
dogs that there are the Belgian battle walls. I've got

796
00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:11.239
a buddy that is a police officer and he drove

797
00:50:11.320 --> 00:50:14.719
down the road one evening and got out to let

798
00:50:14.800 --> 00:50:17.480
the dog use the bathroom, and he done a whistle,

799
00:50:18.440 --> 00:50:22.119
and one whistled back. And when that thing whistled, he said,

800
00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:24.519
his dog like to have closed the side of the

801
00:50:24.599 --> 00:50:29.800
car trying to get back into his police car. Oh wow,

802
00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:34.039
So Doug, he just after that, he just sort of

803
00:50:34.159 --> 00:50:38.199
keeps to hisself and and he'll give you know, keeps

804
00:50:38.320 --> 00:50:40.199
us up to date and that kind of stuff. But

805
00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:44.400
he just sort of quit putting anything out because he

806
00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:46.519
didn't want to have to put up with all the ridicule.

807
00:50:48.039 --> 00:50:52.079
Absolutely, I've been looking at a map of the different

808
00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:55.599
areas that you've mentioned. It looks like it's kind of

809
00:50:55.800 --> 00:51:00.880
down where North Carolina and Georgia and Southrth Carolina meat

810
00:51:01.519 --> 00:51:05.239
that kind of area. Yeah, and it's definitely there's some

811
00:51:05.480 --> 00:51:08.400
big national forest down there. It's south of the Smoky

812
00:51:08.440 --> 00:51:11.960
Mountains National Park. But yeah, it's just man, it's just

813
00:51:12.119 --> 00:51:14.119
forest and forest and forest down there.

814
00:51:15.719 --> 00:51:18.840
I can on my research area and stand an Indian,

815
00:51:19.760 --> 00:51:23.639
I can. I can take you up there and that

816
00:51:23.800 --> 00:51:26.519
you see how vast it is. There's probably places there

817
00:51:26.639 --> 00:51:32.239
that nobody's ever been. Wow. I mean that's how big

818
00:51:32.639 --> 00:51:38.000
the just the woods are here. Another place that you

819
00:51:38.119 --> 00:51:42.679
can look on your map is around Rainbow Springs. Which

820
00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:46.360
is near Nanahala Lake. That was where I saw my

821
00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:54.000
very first one. There. There is also an area that

822
00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:57.239
I just want to say, that's also an area of

823
00:51:57.320 --> 00:52:00.639
where I've been yelled at and where I saw my

824
00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:01.639
very first one.

825
00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:05.960
Would you be able to share about the what happened

826
00:52:05.960 --> 00:52:08.400
the first time that you were able to see one?

827
00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:12.280
Oh, yes, sir. I was in there boat hunting, and

828
00:52:13.199 --> 00:52:19.760
I was just minding my own business, not really thinking

829
00:52:19.880 --> 00:52:22.719
anything about it. I knew that what was going on

830
00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:25.000
over at Newss and that kind of stuff, but I

831
00:52:25.480 --> 00:52:29.559
didn't think nothing about it up there. And I was

832
00:52:29.760 --> 00:52:31.679
just walking up the ridge. I was going to get

833
00:52:31.719 --> 00:52:34.400
on the very tip top of the ridge and set

834
00:52:34.519 --> 00:52:37.639
close to a clear cut and deer hunt. And I

835
00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:40.360
was walking up there, and all of a sudden, about

836
00:52:41.119 --> 00:52:44.239
maybe ten yards in front of me, it come out

837
00:52:44.320 --> 00:52:49.599
from behind a behind a tree, and it run probably

838
00:52:50.920 --> 00:52:56.119
i'd say maybe ten another ten yards on two feet,

839
00:52:56.920 --> 00:53:00.679
and then it brought down to all fours and it

840
00:53:01.159 --> 00:53:06.280
got out of there quick. I mean it covered one

841
00:53:06.400 --> 00:53:10.159
hundred and fifty one hundred seventy yards in no time.

842
00:53:10.360 --> 00:53:14.400
I mean by the time I looked at it and

843
00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:17.719
I thought, well, I seen what it was, and then

844
00:53:17.760 --> 00:53:20.960
it dropped down and I had never seen them run

845
00:53:21.039 --> 00:53:23.480
that fast. I didn't know, so I looked back to

846
00:53:23.519 --> 00:53:25.679
say if as another one or anything, and when I

847
00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:28.039
turned round it was it was already gone.

848
00:53:31.400 --> 00:53:34.000
When it was running on all fours?

849
00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:35.760
Was it was it?

850
00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:38.400
Have you seen any other creature that runs like that

851
00:53:38.559 --> 00:53:40.599
on all fours? Was it similar to anything else?

852
00:53:42.880 --> 00:53:45.719
To be honest with you, it looked like a hyaena.

853
00:53:46.679 --> 00:53:49.639
And the reason I say that is the front end

854
00:53:50.320 --> 00:53:55.159
its arms was much longer than its back legs. That

855
00:53:55.320 --> 00:53:59.159
it was had the position of like a hyaena. But

856
00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:03.519
it run the best I could tell, and the best

857
00:54:03.599 --> 00:54:09.119
I remember, it would put its to from hands down

858
00:54:09.880 --> 00:54:13.639
and then bring its back feed up, just like just

859
00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:18.639
like a dog or a deer or anything you know

860
00:54:18.880 --> 00:54:21.880
like that runs it put its front legs out and

861
00:54:21.960 --> 00:54:24.880
then push off and with its back legs And like

862
00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:27.719
I said, it covered some distance real quick.

863
00:54:29.000 --> 00:54:30.920
That must have been a sight to see you for sure?

864
00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:33.280
Did you go ahead?

865
00:54:34.840 --> 00:54:36.880
I'm sorry, I was just going to say it was,

866
00:54:37.119 --> 00:54:42.119
especially when you know you're you're just now grasping what's

867
00:54:42.199 --> 00:54:46.760
going on in another part of the county, not even

868
00:54:46.840 --> 00:54:50.519
ready thinking that anything is going on anywhere else in

869
00:54:50.599 --> 00:54:53.480
the county. I thought it was crazy that they was

870
00:54:53.559 --> 00:54:58.360
in one part on my budget's property. But then as

871
00:54:58.400 --> 00:55:02.440
I've done more found more areas, I found out that

872
00:55:02.519 --> 00:55:05.239
there's quite a few of them. But that first one

873
00:55:05.320 --> 00:55:09.280
after my buddy's property was like that is you know,

874
00:55:10.039 --> 00:55:12.199
it just flows you for a minute, because then it

875
00:55:12.320 --> 00:55:15.159
gets you wondering, well, I wonder how many of these

876
00:55:15.239 --> 00:55:18.079
creatures they actually are in this county?

877
00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:22.559
And is this in Macon County?

878
00:55:23.960 --> 00:55:24.920
Yes, sir, it is.

879
00:55:27.559 --> 00:55:30.760
So did you get a pretty good look at the

880
00:55:31.440 --> 00:55:33.679
head of the creature when you had that visual?

881
00:55:34.519 --> 00:55:38.679
Just it happened the fast it come out, and it

882
00:55:38.800 --> 00:55:41.840
had the side of its head. You know, it wasn't

883
00:55:41.880 --> 00:55:44.840
looking at me when it come out. It was looking

884
00:55:44.880 --> 00:55:50.159
straight ahead, and it happened su fast. Honestly, it took

885
00:55:50.239 --> 00:55:52.239
me by surprise. I didn't get that good of a

886
00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:55.239
look because I in my mind it was registered like

887
00:55:55.920 --> 00:55:57.360
what in the world am I looking at?

888
00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:05.079
Understood? So probably not I mean details like a shape

889
00:56:05.079 --> 00:56:07.480
of the head or if there was a neck to

890
00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:08.000
it at all.

891
00:56:08.719 --> 00:56:11.000
I can tell you there wasn't no neck, because I

892
00:56:11.119 --> 00:56:14.280
seen that once it dropped down and was running. It

893
00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:18.360
looked like his head just stayed on its shoulders.

894
00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:22.000
When it was running. Were you able to see the

895
00:56:23.320 --> 00:56:24.960
bottoms of the feet at all?

896
00:56:25.920 --> 00:56:29.000
Sure? Because I was trying to look at its body,

897
00:56:29.199 --> 00:56:29.880
the shape, and.

898
00:56:33.239 --> 00:56:37.280
Anything interesting about the color of it, or the hair

899
00:56:38.039 --> 00:56:39.880
length or anything that you'd noticed.

900
00:56:40.599 --> 00:56:44.719
It was I would say, a sharp coal gray, maybe black,

901
00:56:46.760 --> 00:56:48.320
it was, it was dark colored.

902
00:56:51.000 --> 00:56:54.159
Were you able to notice anything underneath the hair it all?

903
00:56:56.480 --> 00:56:59.400
No? Sure? Like I said, the whole thing probably didn't

904
00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:04.360
life maybe ten fifteen secreds and it was gone. Yep.

905
00:57:04.679 --> 00:57:05.239
Absolutely.

906
00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:09.960
Now the one that I well, since we're talking about

907
00:57:10.320 --> 00:57:13.760
Rainbow Springs, man, my dad was in there, not this

908
00:57:14.039 --> 00:57:18.920
past turkey season, but the year before, in twenty twenty three,

909
00:57:20.039 --> 00:57:24.800
And it was real cold that morning, and I had

910
00:57:24.920 --> 00:57:29.519
put an extra cod on under my clothes and was

911
00:57:29.599 --> 00:57:32.920
in our turkey hunting and didn't hear nothing. So I

912
00:57:33.079 --> 00:57:36.559
decided to hit my woodpecker call. A lot of times

913
00:57:36.599 --> 00:57:39.239
we'll get a response from turkeys out of that. So

914
00:57:40.039 --> 00:57:45.159
I hid it, and maybe one hundred yards below me,

915
00:57:46.159 --> 00:57:48.960
a cology started, and I thought, well, just come on

916
00:57:49.159 --> 00:57:53.320
up here and I'll get rid of you. And as

917
00:57:53.400 --> 00:57:57.320
soon as that, Caldy hushed a big footthuler from the

918
00:57:57.400 --> 00:58:02.519
same area, and I was trying to grab my phone

919
00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:07.239
out of my pocket to get it recorded, and it quit.

920
00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:13.800
It probably lasted maybe five ten seconds and just over paper.

921
00:58:13.880 --> 00:58:16.960
Realized while I got on, I've got on my turkey vest,

922
00:58:17.639 --> 00:58:21.280
plus a light jacket, plus a long sleeve shirt and

923
00:58:21.400 --> 00:58:23.079
a T shirt and I'm trying to get through all

924
00:58:23.119 --> 00:58:27.159
of that. And once it quit, I thought, well, dog gone.

925
00:58:27.639 --> 00:58:31.320
And it done it again, so again I tried to

926
00:58:31.360 --> 00:58:34.920
get my phone out and still cutting, and when it

927
00:58:35.079 --> 00:58:38.360
stopped that time, I thought, well, that's probably definitely the

928
00:58:38.519 --> 00:58:41.800
end of it. But it wound up hollering four different times.

929
00:58:43.159 --> 00:58:47.480
And my dad was a good three quarters of a

930
00:58:47.599 --> 00:58:51.039
mile a mile away from me, And when we got

931
00:58:51.280 --> 00:58:53.440
back to the truck, I got there before he didn't.

932
00:58:53.679 --> 00:58:56.400
He come out and was walking down the road to me.

933
00:58:57.159 --> 00:58:59.519
He said, did you hear that hotter this morning? And

934
00:58:59.679 --> 00:59:02.280
I said yeah, I said it was riding under me.

935
00:59:02.840 --> 00:59:04.599
He said, is that what I think it was? And

936
00:59:04.679 --> 00:59:06.519
I told him I said yeah, it was definitely one

937
00:59:06.559 --> 00:59:09.559
of down and he said, man alive. He said it

938
00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:13.400
just dechoed up where he was there. But that's the

939
00:59:14.199 --> 00:59:17.719
that's the two encounters I've had in that area.

940
00:59:20.360 --> 00:59:24.760
Absolutely just just fascinating stuff from this this one county

941
00:59:25.039 --> 00:59:28.239
seems like it's got a lot going on. When I

942
00:59:28.320 --> 00:59:30.559
talked to Harley, I've talked to Harley a few times,

943
00:59:30.840 --> 00:59:34.199
and I've talked to other individuals from his area, and

944
00:59:34.360 --> 00:59:38.000
something that I noticed is that there's definitely seems to

945
00:59:38.119 --> 00:59:42.119
be some sort of government influence, and there are unmarked

946
00:59:43.280 --> 00:59:47.119
cars seen and just other related things. Have you ever

947
00:59:47.199 --> 00:59:52.039
picked up on any out of the ordinary, you know,

948
00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:55.400
cars around when you're going out to look for Bigfoot,

949
00:59:55.480 --> 00:59:59.199
or any weird government interference with any of your bigfoot

950
00:59:59.239 --> 00:59:59.920
research down there?

951
01:00:00.519 --> 01:00:03.800
I had my computer to crash. I had went to

952
01:00:04.199 --> 01:00:08.519
a meet up in Alabama and met a guy named

953
01:00:08.840 --> 01:00:13.280
Bo and that's it, that's just his nickname. And he

954
01:00:13.360 --> 01:00:15.880
asked me, he said, have they been to see you get?

955
01:00:16.559 --> 01:00:20.400
And I said who? He said the men? And I

956
01:00:20.519 --> 01:00:23.559
said no, I ain't saying nobody. He said was as

957
01:00:23.639 --> 01:00:27.079
much as you uns are putting out, they will, And

958
01:00:27.480 --> 01:00:30.719
I just never I thought, now, I ain't you know what,

959
01:00:31.559 --> 01:00:33.760
I ain't that big of a person for them to

960
01:00:33.840 --> 01:00:36.920
be looking for anything I'm doing. And but I started

961
01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:42.519
a TikTok account and finally got enough follow worst to

962
01:00:42.599 --> 01:00:46.679
where I could do a live show. And I told

963
01:00:47.960 --> 01:00:49.800
I told him on there, I give them the date

964
01:00:49.880 --> 01:00:53.079
that I was going to do it and everything, and

965
01:00:53.639 --> 01:00:56.880
so my come, my son come over and was going

966
01:00:56.920 --> 01:00:58.519
to help me with it. He's going to read their

967
01:00:58.599 --> 01:01:03.679
questions and that stuff. And he gets over here and

968
01:01:04.039 --> 01:01:07.440
I'd used my laptop the day before and everything was

969
01:01:07.519 --> 01:01:10.760
working fine. So we start trying to pull it up,

970
01:01:10.880 --> 01:01:13.920
and my laptop does nothing but set there and spin.

971
01:01:15.079 --> 01:01:17.960
The little icon on it is just setting our spinning.

972
01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:21.440
And finally it gets time for us to do the

973
01:01:21.559 --> 01:01:24.519
live show, so we have to do it off our

974
01:01:24.599 --> 01:01:30.639
cell phone. And I took my computer to the computer

975
01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:34.079
place here in town and he told me, he said,

976
01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:39.559
your hard drives been tried, and I'm like what he said, Yeah,

977
01:01:39.559 --> 01:01:42.559
I said, you've lost everything on it, and that was

978
01:01:43.159 --> 01:01:47.280
everything that I had collected from two thousand and they

979
01:01:47.400 --> 01:01:49.960
ate all the way up. I'm thinking that was in

980
01:01:51.280 --> 01:01:56.079
two thousand into two, twenty twenty three, twenty twenty two,

981
01:01:56.199 --> 01:02:01.400
twenty twenty three, somewhere around in there. He said, everything

982
01:02:01.519 --> 01:02:03.519
on it's gone and said there's nothing that we can

983
01:02:03.639 --> 01:02:06.960
save off of it. And I told him. I said, well,

984
01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:10.480
that's okay, because I back everything up on the thumb drive,

985
01:02:11.440 --> 01:02:15.079
and so he when I hadn't put a new everything

986
01:02:15.159 --> 01:02:18.599
in my computer because there wasn't nothing working, new hardboard,

987
01:02:18.960 --> 01:02:22.719
hard drive, a mother board, all that stuff. And I

988
01:02:22.840 --> 01:02:25.159
get a home and I thought, well, I'll download my

989
01:02:25.599 --> 01:02:29.239
pictures off my thumb drive. I get it up, plug

990
01:02:29.280 --> 01:02:32.360
it into my pictures, and there's all the folders named

991
01:02:32.599 --> 01:02:36.559
when I when I keep my evidence, I keep it

992
01:02:36.719 --> 01:02:40.199
locked by the year and the location that it comes from.

993
01:02:40.920 --> 01:02:43.000
That way, when I want to go back and look,

994
01:02:43.039 --> 01:02:46.679
I can find it easier. And I started to open

995
01:02:46.760 --> 01:02:52.119
them up, and everything on it was gone. And that

996
01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:56.159
thumb drive had not been bothered since I loaded everything

997
01:02:56.280 --> 01:02:59.599
down on it and stuck it in the drawer underneath

998
01:02:59.719 --> 01:03:04.360
my com And how it got is after or whatever

999
01:03:04.400 --> 01:03:06.400
you want to call it out, I don't ever know

1000
01:03:06.599 --> 01:03:09.639
when I'm not saying that the government done it or

1001
01:03:09.760 --> 01:03:13.079
nothing like that, but it's just seemed awful funny that

1002
01:03:13.559 --> 01:03:16.079
the day that I'm supposed to go live on TikTok

1003
01:03:16.159 --> 01:03:19.760
and answer questions that kind of stuff, that my computer

1004
01:03:20.360 --> 01:03:24.079
gets fried and done. All my years of research on

1005
01:03:24.239 --> 01:03:28.480
that thumb drive also gets goned. They was in my

1006
01:03:28.599 --> 01:03:32.039
bigfoot folder. Not only did I keep my bigfoot stuff,

1007
01:03:32.119 --> 01:03:35.239
but also pictures off the trail cameras, deer and hogs

1008
01:03:35.320 --> 01:03:38.679
and all that kind of stuff. So I had probably

1009
01:03:40.159 --> 01:03:42.760
ain't no telling them how many thousands of pictures on

1010
01:03:42.920 --> 01:03:47.719
that And when I opened up the bigfoot fill, all

1011
01:03:47.760 --> 01:03:49.800
the other ones had nothing in on the big Foot

1012
01:03:49.920 --> 01:03:53.199
file had one picture in it and that was all.

1013
01:03:54.760 --> 01:03:58.000
And like I say, I can't I can't honestly say

1014
01:03:58.159 --> 01:04:01.960
what done it? But something happened to it because it

1015
01:04:02.159 --> 01:04:07.360
was working fine the the not before, and then that day,

1016
01:04:08.320 --> 01:04:12.079
five minutes before it's supposed to go live, it won't

1017
01:04:12.159 --> 01:04:12.679
do nothing.

1018
01:04:14.719 --> 01:04:18.480
That is that is a tragedy and really really makes

1019
01:04:18.559 --> 01:04:21.719
you wonder about stuff like that. What is your what's

1020
01:04:21.719 --> 01:04:22.840
your TikTok user name?

1021
01:04:25.199 --> 01:04:27.719
My TikTok is Tim Dill's thirteen?

1022
01:04:28.239 --> 01:04:36.800
Okay cool? Something that listeners always they kind of have

1023
01:04:37.119 --> 01:04:40.199
been pushing me to ask questions related to this, so

1024
01:04:41.800 --> 01:04:46.199
I might start to do it and we'll come at

1025
01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:50.480
it like this. In the areas that you research, have

1026
01:04:50.679 --> 01:04:55.679
you ever found evidence of other creatures besides bigfoot in

1027
01:04:55.800 --> 01:04:59.679
those areas that are not your normal animals.

1028
01:05:00.639 --> 01:05:07.519
No, I've honestly not the only thing that I have

1029
01:05:07.800 --> 01:05:13.800
seen that it's hard to explain. I have seen a

1030
01:05:13.920 --> 01:05:19.559
bottle of light moving through the woods. If you look

1031
01:05:19.639 --> 01:05:23.239
on your map, there's a place called Boe Tree. It's

1032
01:05:23.360 --> 01:05:27.199
also while you're road. That is also one of my

1033
01:05:27.360 --> 01:05:32.840
main hunting and research areas. In that area, I have

1034
01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:38.599
been growled at, had boxed, throwed. I'll just give you

1035
01:05:38.639 --> 01:05:41.159
a quick story on that area. I was going in

1036
01:05:42.079 --> 01:05:45.559
and I noticed all this stuff broke across my trail.

1037
01:05:45.760 --> 01:05:48.360
But I was going in to change my cameras and

1038
01:05:48.559 --> 01:05:53.480
stuff out, and I reach up and break a limb

1039
01:05:53.559 --> 01:05:56.039
off that's about seven haigh feet high. I reach up

1040
01:05:56.079 --> 01:05:59.559
and take my phone out and documented of course, and

1041
01:06:00.039 --> 01:06:02.519
break it off and throw it on the ground out

1042
01:06:02.599 --> 01:06:06.920
of the trail. I get up into where my trail

1043
01:06:07.039 --> 01:06:10.519
goes through a laurel thicket that I've cut a trail through.

1044
01:06:11.519 --> 01:06:14.880
There's a stick stuck in sideways that would have hit

1045
01:06:14.960 --> 01:06:17.880
me across the chest and went. I'd get my phone

1046
01:06:17.920 --> 01:06:21.320
back out, document that and show that there's no way

1047
01:06:21.360 --> 01:06:24.360
that that stick could have failed there. I take it out,

1048
01:06:24.440 --> 01:06:27.360
thought down, go on through, I come out. It takes

1049
01:06:27.400 --> 01:06:29.119
me by the iron, and I have to walk into

1050
01:06:29.199 --> 01:06:32.039
this area. When I come out the other side, I'm

1051
01:06:32.079 --> 01:06:35.880
sitting there resting a minute and a rock comes over

1052
01:06:36.400 --> 01:06:38.519
over my head and lands out in front of me

1053
01:06:38.760 --> 01:06:41.639
in a clear cut, and so I'll get my phone

1054
01:06:41.679 --> 01:06:44.199
back out, and I'm well, they just throw the rock.

1055
01:06:44.280 --> 01:06:47.079
It landed here, and it seemed like it comes from

1056
01:06:47.119 --> 01:06:49.679
behind me. And I turned my camera around backwards and

1057
01:06:49.760 --> 01:06:53.239
done that and went on in and done, changed my

1058
01:06:53.639 --> 01:06:57.000
stuff out and come back down. And where I broke

1059
01:06:57.119 --> 01:07:01.599
that first limb off, there's two fresh limbs laid across

1060
01:07:01.679 --> 01:07:05.239
the trail that wasn't there when I went in. I

1061
01:07:05.400 --> 01:07:07.960
mean they're green. You could tell they had been broken

1062
01:07:08.079 --> 01:07:10.960
and laid down while I was gone. So I get

1063
01:07:11.039 --> 01:07:13.559
my phone out document them throw them. By the way,

1064
01:07:14.320 --> 01:07:19.039
I'm going through another less fiction of laurels, and it's

1065
01:07:19.159 --> 01:07:21.280
not like the one that had the stick in it.

1066
01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:26.199
It's small, maybe twenty feet through it. I start into

1067
01:07:26.280 --> 01:07:28.840
it and I hear one growl at me, and I

1068
01:07:28.920 --> 01:07:31.440
don't have the best hearing in the world, so I

1069
01:07:31.519 --> 01:07:34.960
knew that it was pretty close. And I thought, well,

1070
01:07:35.000 --> 01:07:37.639
you crazy things. I ain't got tons of food, I've

1071
01:07:37.679 --> 01:07:40.320
got stuff. I got to do. And when I come

1072
01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:43.960
out the other side, it growled at me again, and

1073
01:07:46.679 --> 01:07:48.920
I thought, well, I ain't got ton of fools. I

1074
01:07:49.079 --> 01:07:51.840
just acted like I didn't hear it. And I get

1075
01:07:51.920 --> 01:07:56.719
ready to step across this small freaking branch that was there,

1076
01:07:57.559 --> 01:08:01.280
and I look and they had stuck stick up between

1077
01:08:01.360 --> 01:08:03.599
two trees that would have hit me across the bridge

1078
01:08:03.639 --> 01:08:07.599
of the nose, and i'd get my phone that document it,

1079
01:08:07.880 --> 01:08:11.400
and I no, definitely it wasn't there, because I'd had

1080
01:08:11.480 --> 01:08:14.039
to have moved it to walk up through there. So

1081
01:08:14.480 --> 01:08:17.760
I get off of that old logging road back down

1082
01:08:17.840 --> 01:08:21.520
into the main logging road, and there's a laurel, a

1083
01:08:21.600 --> 01:08:24.560
locust tree that I have to go wonder and they

1084
01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:27.920
had broken a maypole over about the bigger round as

1085
01:08:27.960 --> 01:08:31.640
a softball. They had broke it over top of the

1086
01:08:31.920 --> 01:08:35.840
the locusts while I was up in there. And so

1087
01:08:35.960 --> 01:08:38.600
I'll come out and to document that and everything. But

1088
01:08:39.319 --> 01:08:43.359
that is the area where I saw the light Mennos.

1089
01:08:44.079 --> 01:08:47.119
He dropped me off and went on around the road hunting,

1090
01:08:47.560 --> 01:08:50.000
and I went up in and were a hunted up there,

1091
01:08:50.880 --> 01:08:53.560
and I come back out and I'm standing there and

1092
01:08:53.720 --> 01:08:56.439
me and him had just a few days before that,

1093
01:08:57.199 --> 01:09:01.359
bought some real bright flash lights from Walmart super bright.

1094
01:09:01.680 --> 01:09:04.560
And so I'm standing there and I look down. That's

1095
01:09:04.640 --> 01:09:08.279
getting dark dark, and I look down the hill and

1096
01:09:08.399 --> 01:09:13.479
I seen this orange bowl about the size of a grapefruit.

1097
01:09:13.600 --> 01:09:17.479
But it's real, dull orange, almost like an old lantern

1098
01:09:18.800 --> 01:09:24.039
told the glow off an old landern. And it's moving intelligently,

1099
01:09:24.279 --> 01:09:27.000
I can tell you know. It's not just jimping here

1100
01:09:27.720 --> 01:09:31.319
around the belt. That's honestly looking like it's looking for something.

1101
01:09:32.479 --> 01:09:36.840
And I thought, well, what's he doing with that old flashlight.

1102
01:09:36.920 --> 01:09:38.800
We've got her new ones and I always got it

1103
01:09:38.920 --> 01:09:43.199
with him. And I stand there and watch it and

1104
01:09:43.279 --> 01:09:44.840
watch it, and I thought, wal go down there and

1105
01:09:44.920 --> 01:09:47.880
see what he's looking for. So I turned my light

1106
01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:50.319
on and shine down that way. And when I turned mine,

1107
01:09:50.720 --> 01:09:53.520
it goes out. I thought, well, he'd been waiting on me,

1108
01:09:53.640 --> 01:09:56.560
so I'll get down there, and he's not there, and

1109
01:09:56.720 --> 01:09:58.760
I'm thinking, well, he's going to try to jump out

1110
01:09:58.800 --> 01:10:02.640
from behind a tree or something. Scared me, and so

1111
01:10:02.840 --> 01:10:05.119
I was a little for him, and I told him,

1112
01:10:05.159 --> 01:10:07.439
I said, I know you down here. I seen the

1113
01:10:07.520 --> 01:10:11.199
light on, so let's go. And I said, wait, didn't

1114
01:10:11.319 --> 01:10:13.680
he never get you up? And I said, oh well,

1115
01:10:14.319 --> 01:10:19.479
And I got back down into the road where he

1116
01:10:19.920 --> 01:10:22.520
let me out at and here he comes down the

1117
01:10:22.600 --> 01:10:26.159
road to me, and we loaded all the stuff up

1118
01:10:26.199 --> 01:10:28.560
and everything, and we start down road and I told him,

1119
01:10:28.600 --> 01:10:32.079
I said, I just seen the weirdest thing. I said,

1120
01:10:32.119 --> 01:10:34.720
I thought it was you. But there was the orange

1121
01:10:34.800 --> 01:10:39.159
light moving around and it was done it intelligently, not

1122
01:10:39.399 --> 01:10:46.279
just zipping around and everything like that. And he said seriously,

1123
01:10:46.439 --> 01:10:49.199
and I said yeah. He said, he was setting in

1124
01:10:49.359 --> 01:10:53.600
my truck talking to his wife on the phone when

1125
01:10:53.640 --> 01:10:56.439
he looked up in the road. Something called his attention

1126
01:10:56.600 --> 01:11:00.439
in the rearview mirror, and he looked up and there

1127
01:11:00.560 --> 01:11:03.600
was an orange vault of lack come from below the road.

1128
01:11:04.399 --> 01:11:06.800
It stocked in the center of the road, and then

1129
01:11:06.840 --> 01:11:10.399
it went up in to where I was at. That's

1130
01:11:10.479 --> 01:11:14.960
the only thing that I've seen or had up been

1131
01:11:15.039 --> 01:11:19.319
there that you know, that I couldn't explain. The bootfoot

1132
01:11:19.399 --> 01:11:22.319
stuff is, you know, that's easy to identify, but that

1133
01:11:22.560 --> 01:11:25.600
was the only thing that to this day, I still

1134
01:11:25.680 --> 01:11:26.600
don't know what it was.

1135
01:11:28.199 --> 01:11:31.399
There's definitely some weird things like stories like that that

1136
01:11:31.520 --> 01:11:34.920
come out of North Carolina. I'm for sure. I found

1137
01:11:35.119 --> 01:11:40.960
that every state seems to have it's really popular bigfoot

1138
01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:44.399
stories that are or accounts that are passed around people

1139
01:11:44.479 --> 01:11:46.920
that are interested in the community. And for example, like

1140
01:11:47.079 --> 01:11:50.880
you have Oklahoma has a siege from early two thousand,

1141
01:11:51.079 --> 01:11:54.000
or you've got the whole account of you know, the

1142
01:11:54.079 --> 01:11:58.199
Patterson Gimmon film filming from nineteen sixty seven. For California,

1143
01:11:58.760 --> 01:12:01.520
Have you found that there's an account that seems to

1144
01:12:01.680 --> 01:12:05.319
always get passed around for North Carolina to people that

1145
01:12:05.439 --> 01:12:07.079
are interested in the state.

1146
01:12:09.279 --> 01:12:13.960
Yeah, there's east of work from where I live. It's

1147
01:12:14.039 --> 01:12:18.119
a few hours driving east, a place called South Mountain.

1148
01:12:18.199 --> 01:12:21.800
They have the one there. They call it Norby. That's

1149
01:12:22.279 --> 01:12:26.600
the one that I think is most if you want

1150
01:12:26.640 --> 01:12:29.079
to use the word famous, I think that's the one

1151
01:12:29.159 --> 01:12:33.920
that is most known in as North Carolina would be Norby.

1152
01:12:37.359 --> 01:12:40.399
Are there just a lot of sightings of that bigfoot

1153
01:12:40.399 --> 01:12:43.479
around that area or is it overly aggressive or that's

1154
01:12:43.520 --> 01:12:45.359
what I haven't heard of personally.

1155
01:12:45.720 --> 01:12:48.399
It as far as I know, it's not aggressive. It's

1156
01:12:48.600 --> 01:12:52.039
just that there's seems to have been quite a few

1157
01:12:52.119 --> 01:12:57.279
sightings going back, you know, quite a few years, and

1158
01:12:57.840 --> 01:12:59.239
instill going on today.

1159
01:13:02.359 --> 01:13:04.439
I will have to. I'll have to look into that

1160
01:13:04.600 --> 01:13:07.079
see if I can. Maybe if someone's from the area

1161
01:13:07.600 --> 01:13:12.680
and they've experienced any knobby sightings or you know of

1162
01:13:12.800 --> 01:13:16.159
the history. You feel free to reach out in the comments,

1163
01:13:16.239 --> 01:13:18.880
or you can email me at Bigfoot Society at gmail

1164
01:13:18.920 --> 01:13:22.319
dot com. But Tim, it has been an absolute pleasure

1165
01:13:22.680 --> 01:13:26.680
talking to you. You are involved with way more than

1166
01:13:26.720 --> 01:13:29.760
I would have guessed in this area, and it sounds

1167
01:13:29.800 --> 01:13:32.720
like you have quite a crew of researchers down there

1168
01:13:32.840 --> 01:13:33.760
that are looking into this.

1169
01:13:34.680 --> 01:13:37.760
Yes, sir, I've got If you've got time, I can

1170
01:13:37.880 --> 01:13:41.399
tell you of my most recent side.

1171
01:13:41.840 --> 01:13:44.439
I would love that. Yeah, I definitely have the time it.

1172
01:13:44.720 --> 01:13:48.439
I actually got a pretty good look at back up

1173
01:13:48.479 --> 01:13:53.199
on Standing Indian and I was going in and changing

1174
01:13:53.319 --> 01:13:57.840
my audio recording my trail cams out and was walking

1175
01:13:57.920 --> 01:14:00.880
back out and I thought, well, I'm just gonna it

1176
01:14:01.079 --> 01:14:05.439
was during deer season, so it had to be into November,

1177
01:14:05.600 --> 01:14:08.520
first of December. Well, actually I know when it was.

1178
01:14:08.600 --> 01:14:13.319
It was the first day of December in twenty twenty three.

1179
01:14:14.760 --> 01:14:17.039
And I was walking back out and I thought, well,

1180
01:14:17.039 --> 01:14:19.119
I'm just going to sit right here and hunt till dark.

1181
01:14:19.840 --> 01:14:24.680
And I sat down and I always carried the Bible

1182
01:14:24.760 --> 01:14:27.079
on my phone. I sat there and reading my Bible,

1183
01:14:27.159 --> 01:14:29.920
and I've been reading a Boy the Iron, just waking

1184
01:14:29.960 --> 01:14:32.600
moments to get, you know, lady in the evening for

1185
01:14:32.720 --> 01:14:36.840
deer start moving. And when I got through reading, I

1186
01:14:36.960 --> 01:14:42.680
thought something watching me, and I turned around and looked

1187
01:14:42.920 --> 01:14:46.960
up on the little old ridge above me, maybe one

1188
01:14:47.039 --> 01:14:52.439
hundred yards if that no more than one hundred and twenty,

1189
01:14:53.079 --> 01:14:56.159
and I see one standing there looking at me. It's

1190
01:14:56.680 --> 01:15:01.479
pushing seven high, eight feet tall, a dark I can

1191
01:15:01.600 --> 01:15:05.319
see everything, but it's right shoulders out from behind the tree.

1192
01:15:06.079 --> 01:15:10.000
I couldn't see its face real good, but I could

1193
01:15:10.079 --> 01:15:13.680
see no neck bed brought shoulders, the color of it,

1194
01:15:14.359 --> 01:15:18.800
the conical head not you know, it wasn't like a

1195
01:15:19.039 --> 01:15:21.119
pyramid or nothing like that, but you could tell that

1196
01:15:21.239 --> 01:15:25.840
it was more than the human's head. And I'm trying

1197
01:15:25.880 --> 01:15:28.960
to get my phone out. I had just switched an iPhone,

1198
01:15:29.000 --> 01:15:31.159
and I'm trying to find out how to zen men

1199
01:15:31.279 --> 01:15:33.800
and all of this stuff. And I know that it's

1200
01:15:33.880 --> 01:15:36.319
not going to last. You know that it's not going

1201
01:15:36.359 --> 01:15:39.640
to stand there forever. So I throw my phone down

1202
01:15:39.960 --> 01:15:43.439
and I pick up my rifle, and I turn around

1203
01:15:43.520 --> 01:15:46.880
to look where it's at, because that's you know, when

1204
01:15:46.920 --> 01:15:49.359
you're hunting and you learn to shoot, you keep your

1205
01:15:49.399 --> 01:15:51.279
eyes on the target and you bring your gun up

1206
01:15:51.319 --> 01:15:53.800
to it. So I was watching it, and when it

1207
01:15:53.920 --> 01:15:56.920
seemed to pick my gun up, it stepped back behind

1208
01:15:57.000 --> 01:16:00.399
the tree, and all I could see was it's left shoulder,

1209
01:16:01.560 --> 01:16:04.760
and I looked and looked and couldn't see nothing, but

1210
01:16:04.880 --> 01:16:06.520
it shouldered, and I thought, well, I don't want it

1211
01:16:06.600 --> 01:16:09.439
to think I'm going to heard it, so I put

1212
01:16:09.520 --> 01:16:15.560
my gun back down and it wouldn't move. I watched

1213
01:16:15.920 --> 01:16:20.079
for probably three or four minutes. It would just stand

1214
01:16:20.119 --> 01:16:25.520
there with its shoulder out, and I thought, well, I'll

1215
01:16:25.600 --> 01:16:28.000
turn around. I scooted to where I could look out

1216
01:16:28.079 --> 01:16:31.720
the corner of my eye and watch it. And once

1217
01:16:31.800 --> 01:16:36.359
it thought I'd turned my head, it come out from

1218
01:16:36.439 --> 01:16:39.640
behind it, but it dropped down to all fours and

1219
01:16:40.319 --> 01:16:42.880
crawled on its belly like an army crawl. It crawled

1220
01:16:42.920 --> 01:16:47.479
from one clump of trees to another clump and checked

1221
01:16:47.520 --> 01:16:50.159
to make sure I wasn't watching it, and then it

1222
01:16:50.279 --> 01:16:53.279
crawled from there back across the little old ridge that

1223
01:16:53.399 --> 01:16:58.920
it was on, and later I see that was in

1224
01:17:00.439 --> 01:17:06.520
December twenty three, No, I'm not. December twenty three, December

1225
01:17:06.920 --> 01:17:10.159
twenty one, and then me and my wife went in

1226
01:17:10.279 --> 01:17:13.880
there and cast today. After that, we casted a track

1227
01:17:14.000 --> 01:17:18.039
in there that is sixteen inches long and sixteen inches

1228
01:17:18.079 --> 01:17:19.520
long and eight inches wide.

1229
01:17:25.039 --> 01:17:28.680
Man, I can't imagine experience something like that. You must

1230
01:17:28.720 --> 01:17:30.439
have been hardly breathing the whole time.

1231
01:17:32.279 --> 01:17:39.039
Actually, it's I was. I'm like just excited, like, Okay,

1232
01:17:39.359 --> 01:17:42.920
I find it, but a good a good look on one,

1233
01:17:43.039 --> 01:17:45.079
you know what I mean. Yeah, And that's the reason

1234
01:17:45.159 --> 01:17:48.399
I want. I wanted to see their face up closed.

1235
01:17:48.439 --> 01:17:51.560
That's the reason I was trying to get my phone out,

1236
01:17:51.680 --> 01:17:54.439
and then when I couldn't do that, Whenever I couldn't

1237
01:17:54.479 --> 01:17:56.399
do that, that's the reason I picked my rifle up.

1238
01:17:56.760 --> 01:18:02.279
I wanted to get real good face to details. But

1239
01:18:02.800 --> 01:18:05.239
as soon as it see me pick up my rifle,

1240
01:18:05.319 --> 01:18:11.119
it stepped back behind her. But I've had and I'm

1241
01:18:11.199 --> 01:18:13.399
not bragging in I hope it don't sound that way,

1242
01:18:13.439 --> 01:18:15.680
and I'm not trying that big and much of nothing

1243
01:18:15.800 --> 01:18:21.319
like that. But I've interactions with them from nuisance property

1244
01:18:22.039 --> 01:18:26.239
on up through I don't I'm not afraid. I'm just

1245
01:18:26.640 --> 01:18:30.880
excited that I'm actually getting, you know, getting to see

1246
01:18:30.920 --> 01:18:31.640
another one.

1247
01:18:34.880 --> 01:18:37.319
With all these years of research, do you have a

1248
01:18:37.439 --> 01:18:40.560
goal of of what you would like to try to

1249
01:18:40.640 --> 01:18:46.039
accomplish before, you know, in the years of research that

1250
01:18:46.159 --> 01:18:47.960
you have left. I guess I would say.

1251
01:18:49.079 --> 01:18:52.199
Yeah, I would actually like to get a good video

1252
01:18:52.359 --> 01:18:56.039
of one. Not not to get famous or nothing like that.

1253
01:18:56.199 --> 01:18:59.279
I could care less about that, but I want it.

1254
01:19:00.119 --> 01:19:04.000
We've got some pretty good pictures between men, the guys

1255
01:19:04.039 --> 01:19:07.279
that I go with. We've got some good thermal videos,

1256
01:19:07.640 --> 01:19:10.960
real good thermal videos. But I would like to get

1257
01:19:11.119 --> 01:19:14.880
one just so I could plash it down to my grandkids.

1258
01:19:15.680 --> 01:19:23.039
You know, I'm getting ready to turn fifty seven Monday,

1259
01:19:23.800 --> 01:19:27.159
so I know I ain't got a lot of years left,

1260
01:19:27.840 --> 01:19:31.000
especially as bad as the mountains orange suffering here, but

1261
01:19:31.119 --> 01:19:33.960
I would like to get something that I could leave

1262
01:19:34.520 --> 01:19:37.399
that my grandkids. Could you know something sides of the

1263
01:19:37.479 --> 01:19:43.000
pictures have something that they could watch and say, even

1264
01:19:43.079 --> 01:19:46.439
if I get to take them, that would be awesome.

1265
01:19:46.560 --> 01:19:49.520
But if not, they can look back and say, well

1266
01:19:50.119 --> 01:19:52.680
here when people say they don't exist, well here's what

1267
01:19:52.840 --> 01:19:56.720
my granddad found. You know, he's had all of these.

1268
01:19:57.199 --> 01:20:00.840
I would love to get something like that for myself.

1269
01:20:01.840 --> 01:20:05.800
If people wanted to accept it, that fine. If not, fine,

1270
01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:08.560
I've been through that. I don't mean to be a

1271
01:20:08.680 --> 01:20:11.399
jerk or nothing. But people say or you're a believer,

1272
01:20:11.600 --> 01:20:14.479
and I say, no, I'm an nowhere. I'm over here.

1273
01:20:15.439 --> 01:20:19.680
And no matter how much ridicule or whatever people put

1274
01:20:19.760 --> 01:20:22.840
on that, you know, I could less. I'm a grown man.

1275
01:20:22.880 --> 01:20:25.279
I get over it. But I would love to have

1276
01:20:25.479 --> 01:20:29.479
something that I could pass down to my grandkids and

1277
01:20:29.680 --> 01:20:33.359
maybe great green kids, and you know, just to let

1278
01:20:33.439 --> 01:20:36.560
them know because the way the world's going, who knows

1279
01:20:36.840 --> 01:20:40.560
what's going to be around in another thirty forty years,

1280
01:20:40.600 --> 01:20:43.920
they may not even be no wilderness left to even

1281
01:20:44.039 --> 01:20:44.800
set step in.

1282
01:20:45.439 --> 01:20:48.640
Absolutely no, I agree. It's it's a kind of a sad,

1283
01:20:49.680 --> 01:20:53.039
sad future. And unless we fix it. What kind of

1284
01:20:53.159 --> 01:20:55.960
video set up do you have in order to try

1285
01:20:56.239 --> 01:20:59.880
to capture that or using just your iPhone or other things.

1286
01:20:59.680 --> 01:21:03.479
Or we've got, of course, tons of trail cameras in

1287
01:21:03.560 --> 01:21:08.760
the woods. We use gold pros our thermals our AGM

1288
01:21:09.920 --> 01:21:13.479
taipan I think is done. The one thermal that I got,

1289
01:21:13.560 --> 01:21:18.359
it's a short range thermal. My long range thermal is

1290
01:21:18.720 --> 01:21:24.359
at M binoculars they will detect the heat's hegneteer out

1291
01:21:24.479 --> 01:21:29.399
to a mile eighteen hundred yards. So that's what I've

1292
01:21:29.520 --> 01:21:33.119
used for my long range up here. Like when the

1293
01:21:33.800 --> 01:21:37.039
leaves get off the trees, I can set and on

1294
01:21:37.199 --> 01:21:41.000
one ridge and watch, you know, for a long ways.

1295
01:21:41.560 --> 01:21:46.960
And those also record. They both record video. And like

1296
01:21:47.039 --> 01:21:49.760
I say, we've got the gold pros. We've got a

1297
01:21:50.039 --> 01:21:57.159
little hand held they oh, what's the cam quarters? They

1298
01:21:57.279 --> 01:21:59.159
used to be cam quorders. I don't know whatter call

1299
01:21:59.279 --> 01:22:02.640
them now, but the little handheld cam corders we have.

1300
01:22:02.920 --> 01:22:06.359
Those also use a and to think of what it is,

1301
01:22:06.760 --> 01:22:09.399
the go pros. And then I've got one that will

1302
01:22:09.520 --> 01:22:13.560
actually mount to my gun, but I can also mount

1303
01:22:13.600 --> 01:22:18.600
it to anything else also that I use. And the

1304
01:22:18.720 --> 01:22:23.119
audio recorders that we use. There are Sonny personal recorders,

1305
01:22:23.239 --> 01:22:26.319
but we found a way. They usually run off of

1306
01:22:26.479 --> 01:22:29.399
two double A batteries, but we have found a way

1307
01:22:29.479 --> 01:22:33.079
to make them run off of two D batteries and

1308
01:22:33.279 --> 01:22:36.199
they will, like I said, they will record twenty four

1309
01:22:36.279 --> 01:22:40.800
hours a day for two weeks. And now Bob and

1310
01:22:40.880 --> 01:22:43.720
d Watt are a whole lot more technical than I am.

1311
01:22:44.520 --> 01:22:47.960
I still have trouble win my cell phone sometimes but

1312
01:22:48.800 --> 01:22:53.039
I am learning slowly but surely. But we also have

1313
01:22:53.880 --> 01:22:57.479
the way my truck is fixed up. When we ride

1314
01:22:57.520 --> 01:23:00.680
the back roads at night, I have I'm a road bar.

1315
01:23:01.399 --> 01:23:03.359
I have it fixed to where I can put a

1316
01:23:03.800 --> 01:23:08.399
mojor on it and attach my thermal to it so

1317
01:23:08.680 --> 01:23:11.960
it can go three hundred and sixty degrees up down,

1318
01:23:12.640 --> 01:23:15.039
whatever it needs to do. When we run that to

1319
01:23:15.239 --> 01:23:19.960
laptops inside the inside my truck, I'll have mine up there.

1320
01:23:20.840 --> 01:23:24.680
Bob Trent will have his with such and cuts mounted

1321
01:23:24.760 --> 01:23:29.960
to the hood, and Dwight will have his either mounted

1322
01:23:30.079 --> 01:23:32.920
or he likes to just hold his a lot, and

1323
01:23:33.039 --> 01:23:35.399
sometimes he'll ride in the back of the truck. And

1324
01:23:35.880 --> 01:23:38.600
that's just some of the ways we do our do

1325
01:23:38.800 --> 01:23:42.279
our recordings and stuff on the back roads when we're

1326
01:23:42.359 --> 01:23:46.560
in the woods. Dwight looks like a walking camera man.

1327
01:23:46.680 --> 01:23:52.960
I mean, he's always taking pictures and videos and we'll

1328
01:23:53.000 --> 01:23:56.159
get done and he'll start posting them and I'll chat

1329
01:23:56.600 --> 01:23:58.800
send him my text say when did you take that?

1330
01:23:59.039 --> 01:24:02.119
I didn't even to see you. So he is doesnitly

1331
01:24:02.960 --> 01:24:04.319
the cameraman at the Budge.

1332
01:24:05.600 --> 01:24:08.560
It's always fascinating to hear about a new part of

1333
01:24:09.319 --> 01:24:12.600
a state where there's intense research going on. I'd say

1334
01:24:12.640 --> 01:24:16.760
we can definitely say that about Meecon County with with

1335
01:24:16.960 --> 01:24:20.720
you gentlemen, that you guys are definitely doing some great

1336
01:24:20.760 --> 01:24:23.880
work down there, and it's it's been a pleasure chatting

1337
01:24:24.199 --> 01:24:27.840
with you today, Tim. Do you have any as we

1338
01:24:28.000 --> 01:24:30.560
kind of start to roll things down, do you have

1339
01:24:30.640 --> 01:24:35.279
any final thoughts about bigfoot or anything regarding that.

1340
01:24:36.000 --> 01:24:39.159
One thing is, and I forgot to mention this, but

1341
01:24:39.399 --> 01:24:42.880
right now we have higher simples being tested at North

1342
01:24:42.920 --> 01:24:48.720
Carolina State University. Okay, we have had some that Robin

1343
01:24:48.840 --> 01:24:53.159
Lynchad I took with her back to Canada and had

1344
01:24:53.239 --> 01:24:56.479
them and they ain't going to say there is such

1345
01:24:56.479 --> 01:24:58.920
a thing as a bigfoot, but if they was, it

1346
01:24:59.079 --> 01:25:02.319
makes all the crad here you So we have got

1347
01:25:02.439 --> 01:25:07.680
that going on. Also, one thing is it's one thing

1348
01:25:07.800 --> 01:25:10.720
to look them up on, you know, do your research

1349
01:25:10.840 --> 01:25:15.479
online and that helps a lot. But getting in the woods,

1350
01:25:16.239 --> 01:25:20.720
you know, is the biggest thing. Be sure you're prepared

1351
01:25:21.000 --> 01:25:24.560
because a lot of people that see them, they don't

1352
01:25:24.640 --> 01:25:28.039
ever want to go to the woods again. And then

1353
01:25:28.079 --> 01:25:31.119
there's idiot us that can't wait to get back in

1354
01:25:31.199 --> 01:25:33.760
there and see if we can see another one, But

1355
01:25:35.000 --> 01:25:40.439
the main thing is stay safe. That you know. It's

1356
01:25:41.640 --> 01:25:45.399
there's a lot of things out there that besides bigfoot,

1357
01:25:45.600 --> 01:25:47.880
and like you said, we won't get into all of that,

1358
01:25:48.119 --> 01:25:51.439
but there's other things out there besides bigfoot that can

1359
01:25:52.079 --> 01:25:55.800
that can cause trouble. I've actually been snake bit head,

1360
01:25:56.000 --> 01:25:58.600
So just be careful and enjoy you.

1361
01:26:00.800 --> 01:26:01.399
Absolutely.

1362
01:26:02.000 --> 01:26:02.239
Tim.

1363
01:26:02.279 --> 01:26:04.279
I've got one more question for you that I just

1364
01:26:04.359 --> 01:26:06.479
thought of, and then I will let you go when

1365
01:26:06.560 --> 01:26:10.399
you send something. Just because you have found multiple research areas,

1366
01:26:11.279 --> 01:26:13.960
what are what are criteria you keep in mind when

1367
01:26:14.000 --> 01:26:15.960
you're trying to find a new research area.

1368
01:26:19.119 --> 01:26:24.279
One thing that seems I don't know if it's coincidence

1369
01:26:24.439 --> 01:26:27.479
or whatever you want to call it, but one thing

1370
01:26:27.800 --> 01:26:31.960
is a food source. I have found a lot of

1371
01:26:32.039 --> 01:26:35.640
my research areas by finding places I wanted to hunt,

1372
01:26:35.960 --> 01:26:39.199
putting trail cameras out finding deer in the areas, or

1373
01:26:39.479 --> 01:26:42.760
we have quite a few wild hogs that kind of stuff.

1374
01:26:42.880 --> 01:26:46.880
But that is they have to have food and they

1375
01:26:46.960 --> 01:26:52.199
have to have water, and that is the two of

1376
01:26:52.279 --> 01:26:55.479
the biggest things to look for when a lot of

1377
01:26:55.560 --> 01:26:59.600
times when I when I find that, I'll start deer hunting.

1378
01:26:59.680 --> 01:27:02.279
And then as I learn more about the area, I'll

1379
01:27:02.359 --> 01:27:05.840
start finding trees that are broke, you know, the exs

1380
01:27:06.000 --> 01:27:11.000
made structures made where they've woven things together and that

1381
01:27:11.199 --> 01:27:14.279
kind of stuff. But the biggest thing is they have

1382
01:27:14.439 --> 01:27:17.479
to have food and they have to have water shelter.

1383
01:27:18.479 --> 01:27:21.720
They can make anywhere, especially around here. There's a lot

1384
01:27:22.720 --> 01:27:25.399
of caves, a lot of rock cliffs and stuff for

1385
01:27:25.520 --> 01:27:29.680
them to get in here in Making County. I think

1386
01:27:29.760 --> 01:27:33.319
they stay here year round. They don't migrate through when.

1387
01:27:33.399 --> 01:27:36.800
The reason I say that because we'll have encounters year round,

1388
01:27:37.439 --> 01:27:41.199
have them on our audio recuarders year round. But I

1389
01:27:41.279 --> 01:27:43.319
think the biggest thing that you want to look for

1390
01:27:44.119 --> 01:27:47.560
is a food source, because something that big has to

1391
01:27:47.680 --> 01:27:49.239
have a lot of food.

1392
01:27:53.159 --> 01:27:56.119
Good good advice to keep in mind when looking for

1393
01:27:56.199 --> 01:27:58.640
a new place. But Tim, thank you so much for

1394
01:27:58.800 --> 01:28:02.600
coming on. Are there ways that people can keep up

1395
01:28:02.600 --> 01:28:04.800
to date with what you're doing or you kind of

1396
01:28:04.920 --> 01:28:08.560
under the you know, under the wire, like you're kind

1397
01:28:08.600 --> 01:28:11.000
of just keeped off to the side, or that there

1398
01:28:11.039 --> 01:28:13.039
are ways even people can reach out to you.

1399
01:28:14.399 --> 01:28:17.479
Oh yes, sir, anybody that wants to get a hold

1400
01:28:17.560 --> 01:28:19.000
of me, they can get a hold of me here

1401
01:28:19.079 --> 01:28:22.279
on Facebook. You can get a hold of me on TikTok.

1402
01:28:24.319 --> 01:28:27.319
I do have you tube channel. It's the same as

1403
01:28:27.439 --> 01:28:31.039
my TikTok. But if you want to get a hold

1404
01:28:31.079 --> 01:28:34.560
of me and got questions or anything like that, since

1405
01:28:34.600 --> 01:28:38.079
there's been so much stuff going on on Facebook with

1406
01:28:38.199 --> 01:28:43.600
fake things. Just mentioned that, how mentioned Bigfoot, and I'll

1407
01:28:43.640 --> 01:28:47.760
know that you've heard it from the podcast and that

1408
01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:50.439
kind of stuff, And I'll be more than glad to

1409
01:28:50.520 --> 01:28:55.079
accept friend requests and chat with you anytime you know

1410
01:28:55.199 --> 01:28:57.239
that you got a question or just want to chat

1411
01:28:58.199 --> 01:29:02.199
or whatever. Just feel free. I mean, I'm not one

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01:29:02.199 --> 01:29:04.600
of them that tries to stay hid. It ain't that

1413
01:29:04.720 --> 01:29:08.359
I'm trying to make the name or nothing like that.

1414
01:29:08.520 --> 01:29:11.159
I care less about that. But I don't see no

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01:29:11.399 --> 01:29:15.159
use in hiding neither, especially if you can help other people,

1416
01:29:15.800 --> 01:29:19.640
you know, that's what it should be all about, helping

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01:29:19.720 --> 01:29:21.319
other people and getting answers.

1418
01:29:22.359 --> 01:29:26.479
Absolutely well, Tim, thank you so much for chatting today,

1419
01:29:26.520 --> 01:29:28.840
and we'll have to keep in touch in the future

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01:29:28.920 --> 01:29:32.199
to see what you guys get into next. But thank you.

1421
01:29:33.680 --> 01:29:35.960
Oh You're more than welcome, and thank you. Thank you

1422
01:29:36.600 --> 01:29:39.359
all the listeners, And as soon as we get some

1423
01:29:39.600 --> 01:29:42.760
information back on both the her samples turn up at

1424
01:29:42.800 --> 01:29:46.119
North Carolina State. I'll definitely get up with you and

1425
01:29:46.800 --> 01:29:48.760
give you the report on that.

1426
01:29:49.600 --> 01:29:52.399
Absolutely, I'll be looking forward to that. Thank you, Tim,

1427
01:29:53.800 --> 01:29:58.520
Thank you sir, and have a great eating. Have you

1428
01:29:58.560 --> 01:30:02.159
ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity around Oakridge,

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01:30:02.199 --> 01:30:05.159
Oregon and you think to yourself, Man, I would love

1430
01:30:05.560 --> 01:30:09.199
to get out in those woods and experience it for myself. Well,

1431
01:30:09.239 --> 01:30:13.600
guess what, this year you can. If this is interesting

1432
01:30:13.640 --> 01:30:17.880
to you, stay tuned because it's pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer

1433
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Fest is coming up July tenth through the eleventh, twenty

1434
01:30:22.159 --> 01:30:25.359
twenty six. It's going to be even better than the

1435
01:30:25.479 --> 01:30:29.359
previous year's reason number one, I'll be one of the speakers.

1436
01:30:29.920 --> 01:30:35.399
It's gonna be wild. I'll probably I'll say this, there

1437
01:30:35.479 --> 01:30:39.439
may be stuff you haven't heard anywhere else, because let's

1438
01:30:39.479 --> 01:30:44.000
just say sometimes it's well, you just got to be there.

1439
01:30:44.279 --> 01:30:46.760
We'll leave at that. More about looking for Bigfoot in

1440
01:30:46.840 --> 01:30:49.920
the Oakridge Woods. Now check this out. You may know

1441
01:30:50.760 --> 01:30:55.960
Jason Kenzie from his documentary series Searching for Sasquatch. Well,

1442
01:30:56.039 --> 01:31:00.159
this year you cannot only go to the festival, but

1443
01:31:00.319 --> 01:31:08.039
you can also sign up for a track deep in

1444
01:31:08.119 --> 01:31:12.319
the wild forest outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to

1445
01:31:12.600 --> 01:31:16.079
the Bigfoot Spots to look for Bigfoot. There's only eight

1446
01:31:16.159 --> 01:31:20.319
spots to sign up for this, and yes, this will

1447
01:31:20.399 --> 01:31:24.039
also be filmed for the next chapter in his documentary series,

1448
01:31:24.079 --> 01:31:26.800
which is Searching for Sasquatch. This is a once in

1449
01:31:26.800 --> 01:31:29.159
a lifetime deal. It's just trust it's going to be

1450
01:31:29.199 --> 01:31:34.520
a wild, wild experience. To get a ticket, head on

1451
01:31:34.600 --> 01:31:38.600
over to Sasquatch Summerfest dot com and listeners can use

1452
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the code b sp like Bigfoot Society Podcast in order

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to get a two day pass for the price of

1454
01:31:46.880 --> 01:31:52.359
a one day pass. So thanks to Priscilla for giving

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01:31:52.399 --> 01:31:57.960
me that code so that you guys can can get

1456
01:31:58.000 --> 01:32:02.119
a little a little help with the cost there. Appreciate that, Priscilla.

1457
01:32:02.600 --> 01:32:05.800
I hope to see you at the booth in Oakridish

1458
01:32:05.840 --> 01:32:09.239
this year we can talk about your encounter. Was able

1459
01:32:09.319 --> 01:32:11.600
to talk to so many people last year and the

1460
01:32:11.680 --> 01:32:15.800
year before. It is an incredible time. You're not going

1461
01:32:15.880 --> 01:32:17.600
to want to miss it, and I'll see you there.

1462
01:32:19.960 --> 01:32:22.199
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

1463
01:32:22.319 --> 01:32:25.520
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

1464
01:32:25.560 --> 01:32:29.279
in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

1465
01:32:29.319 --> 01:32:32.199
seen something that no one can explain, or if you're

1466
01:32:32.199 --> 01:32:35.479
a National Park ranger or forestry worker who's been told

1467
01:32:35.520 --> 01:32:38.479
to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen

1468
01:32:38.560 --> 01:32:41.760
something strange down on the ground, or if you're with

1469
01:32:41.840 --> 01:32:45.439
the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you

1470
01:32:45.520 --> 01:32:48.640
stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And

1471
01:32:48.720 --> 01:32:52.000
if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder

1472
01:32:52.159 --> 01:32:55.399
who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense.

1473
01:32:55.920 --> 01:32:59.319
If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil

1474
01:32:59.399 --> 01:33:02.920
field or trucker with government contracts and you've had something

1475
01:33:03.039 --> 01:33:06.439
happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

1476
01:33:06.439 --> 01:33:10.279
a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under

1477
01:33:10.359 --> 01:33:13.640
contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

1478
01:33:14.279 --> 01:33:16.720
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

1479
01:33:16.760 --> 01:33:20.199
spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,

1480
01:33:20.960 --> 01:33:24.039
or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA, or

1481
01:33:24.119 --> 01:33:27.439
anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

1482
01:33:28.800 --> 01:33:32.199
then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

1483
01:33:34.039 --> 01:33:37.359
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

1484
01:33:38.039 --> 01:33:40.399
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

1485
01:33:40.479 --> 01:33:45.199
carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story,

1486
01:33:46.800 --> 01:33:50.640
We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

1487
01:33:50.680 --> 01:33:53.479
you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society Podcast.

1488
01:33:53.640 --> 01:33:56.000
Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is

1489
01:33:56.079 --> 01:33:59.119
bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth

1490
01:33:59.279 --> 01:34:02.079
is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you

1491
01:34:02.199 --> 01:34:04.920
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1498
01:34:23.600 --> 01:34:25.880
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1499
01:34:26.399 --> 01:34:28.880
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1500
01:34:29.039 --> 01:34:32.359
at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com and let's start

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01:34:32.439 --> 01:34:35.239
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1507
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1508
01:34:55.159 --> 01:34:58.560
Society until next time, Keep your eyes open, trust your gut,

1509
01:34:58.680 --> 01:35:00.880
and never stop asking what else else might be out there?

1510
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And see you in the woods.