Alaska Rainforest Sasquatch Encounters

0:01 So they kept screaming. They kept repeating the same, same, similar screams up on the mountain or between the mountain high and then there were like two huge ones that seemed to have flanked me on each side. And what they would do is when they would scream, it was mostly one on my left side. When this thing would scream, it was like in competition with the others, And it screamed so loud, and it was you wouldn't believe it. I mean, if you did, if I hadn't heard it, I think, yeah, dude, you're sure it was loud. No, this is like louder than an M sixteen report. But they kept going and going.

0:57 This episode of big for Society, I talked to Joe Morris, who is an outdoorsman, wildlife photographer and more in the Great State of Alaska. Joe share some pretty intense bigfoot encounters, including one by a glacier in Wrangels Elias National Park and being surrounded by screaming sasquatches and two catch National Forest as well. It's an episode that you really don't want to miss. But before we get to it, please take a minute to do something that's free for me. Subscribe to Bigfoot Society on the platform you're on, and also make sure that you're both subscribed on YouTube and your favorite podcast platform, and please share this episode and the show with all your friends. Doesn't cost a thing, and it helps us get to the moon. And trust me, Bigfoot Society is going to the moon. And as always, we don't have a catchphrase, so let's get right into it and get on with the show.

2:02 All right, Big Society got the privilege of talking to mister Joe Morris from out there in the bush in Alaska tonight. How's it going, Joe? It's going well. Right now, I am I'm in Wrangel Saint Elias National Park. It's the biggest national park in the United States. It's fourteen thousand square miles. That's over by the Yukon right kind of, we're below the Yukon. We're between well, we're in the middle of nowhere. That's why nobody knows this. So McCarthy, Alaska is a little tiny town. Let's inside this park and if you wanted to google it, that's the only thing.

2:45 It's the only way you're gonna find me. Gotcha, gotcha? So how far? How how remote are you? Right now? Away from like that? Is it your way out in the bush, is what it sounds like. Yeah, I am, yes, if you wanted to look at a map. I am three hundred and twenty five miles from Anchorage and I don't know how far from Valdis, but those are the two reference points. So yeah, I'm on the bush way on the bush doing anything fun out there, a lot of hiking, looking around, doing photography. We got a lot of bears this year. Okay, so it's mating season, and you know, I don't really want to be around him right now. Yeah, probably not watch it back, but it sounds like you've had some really interesting encounters in that park, and I'd love to talk to you about to tell me what kind of what kind of things you run across out there.

3:45 Well, we have all kinds of bears and moose, and there's actually something that's more rare. I think that a sasquatch and it's called a glacier bear and my sel one. So it crawled up on me. I was not being quite at all, and I had a campfire and it come up and looked at me, scared the crap out of me. I didn't know what it was. Anyway. Other than that, I've seen one sasquatch within forty yards in the sunlight, as clear as if you were standing there. What happened is where I can tell you the whole story. You won't restore from again. Absolutely. Yeah. Okay. So I was working at a lodge in McCarthy, Alaska. Not hard to find out which one it is.

4:36 I prefer I don't know what to say. I don't really want to attention to draw into the lodge. It has nothing to do with it. But I happen to be working there, and it was late probably August, maybe July, I can't remember. And a friend of mine works here, and he, you know, we were just burner out because it's lower. It's only open first years amount the time, and you got to close it down open again next year. So we were wiped And I said, hey, man, I'm going up to the toe. I don't want to walk. I'm gonna grab my truck. You want to go? And he's like yeah. So the toe is the end of the Root Glacier, and the Root Glaciers built our ot and it's the glacier that happens to be about a mile and a half from where I'm sitting. So anyway, we run up there and you can hear it melting and want some while you'll see calves and you know, it's cool to watch. It's ready, and it's cooler because it's summertime and you have a wind coming off the ice. So we were on the way out there. It's going slow and I'm in this old beat up Toyota and I you know, both of us have done this trail a million times. So we're going up this trail and I'm going really slow just in case there might be somebody or bears jump out or whatever, because we're out

6:06 the bush and I'm cruising along and I come up just to a tiny rise, not really a hill. But as I do, I see this black head and it's smoothly crossing in front of us. Like well, I was going to the way it was moving. It was smooth. It was not like a bear walks, a moose walks. Nothing walks. That's smooth. And I immediately I had an ice cream headache, and I said it's a big foot. And my buddy wasn't even paying attention. He's like what I stopped and I said, look, dude, I think that's a big foot, and it walked behind the hill, you know, the slight rise, so all we could see was like, I don't know, most of its head, and as it floated by, and it looked like it was floating.

7:00 So I get up there with the truck. I'm like, well, we're gonna go find it. So when I come up over the rise and he's not there. Whatever it was wasn't there, So I told me him, don't slam in the car door. So I pull up into the brush a little bit and stop. We opened the truck doors and I'm always armed with a ten millimeter sig and he happened to have a R fifteen, which isn't great for bear, but it makes a lot of noise. So I said, hey, if you go down about sixty yards and circling in the bush, once you go in, I'll go in and maybe you'll chase it to me. Whatever it is. I thought it was a wounded bear.

7:42 I did not, you know, last thing on my mind was really his asquatch. I'd never seen one. Don't really care about him, and he did. So when he walked in, I started walking in and I walked in just past the brush line, kind of and I stopped in the shadows. You know, I wanted my whole life now. He kind of walked in and made all kinds of noise stumping in there, and he stopped, and I heard him kind of make this weird noise, and he gasped, and I looked over at him automatically, and I had already scanned the area looking, but I heard him gasp and I looked over and before my eyes could get to his area, I realized there was a person standing there about forty feet away to me. This thing looked about six foot five. It was well built, had the V shaped body like a you know, like a linebacker or whatever. And it wasn't looking at me. It appeared that it was looking, well, it was not looking. It wasn't facing me.

8:58 It's body basically was facing three quarter away from me. So I was seeing the left shoulder, ear back, you could see the leg, but I couldn't see its face. And it was like almost doing it on purpose, is what I got. Right in that way, wouldn't look at me, kind of glanced at me, and when it did, it's I couldn't believe it. The eyeball had a little bit of yellow like our white eye care you would be. But this thing, you know, it's sunlight. My glasses if I have these automatic darkening glasses and they have darkened down, and I look at those things eyes and the pupils are enormous. I mean, it's all pupil and I'm thinking, how can this thing see in the Suddenly, you know, even in owls eyes closed down quite a lot regular in the sunlight. That's not like they're totally blown out like they do at night. And that's that was shocking. And then the next thing that freaked me out while I was completely in shock. And the next thing it freaked me out as the way it ran. This thing took off with no gaining of speed like you know, a bear wood or a human. The saint

10:30 took off from zero to sixty It appeared to be sixty miles an hour instantly, and we went about seventy five yards, jumped over some trees that were down, and then took off again like sixty miles an hour, and that was it. That was the end of it. So I walked back to the truck and Neil comes back and he's all excited. He's like, hey, I saw a big foot I saw a big foot and I'm like, what you see? And he says, I saw a human shaped arm. Exapproach too long, and this thing was walking or running and he saw the arm swinging. Well that's not what I saw. I saw the whole thing and it picks up for its face and I don't know what gender or whatever sharing a female. So anyway, it didn't really last long. It was gone. So we stood by the truck and talked about it a little.

11:28 We actually drove out to the toe again, you know, kept going hung out and come back, looked around and went on there. So that was that. That was two thousand seventeen. And it didn't keep me out of the woods. There was no violent encounter or whatever. You were scared to go back in the woods. It sounds like you you're pretty no comfortable with the woods. Oh hell yeah, no, I go back in there. Yeah I did. Then it's not like I'm going to see another one. Well, you know, fifty five years old, we're back then anything goes fifty. Yeah, fifty is about right. I've never seen it all my life, you know, a chance of seeing another one or zero? And then I saw another one five years later, right, and it was enormous.

12:22 The first encounter that you had, did you notice anything you saw the back of it? Sounded like, do you notice anything about the shape of the head at all? Anything around that part of the the big foot. All I saw is if well, my son is it's six foot seven. So in my mind, this thing is a couple's pinches shorter. It's it's shoulders are probably the same way, maybe a little bit more. And it was very muscular. As far as this head. I'm prior military, and if you take people in you shave their heads like they're in the service, or even really short hair you can see the shape of there. Yeah, so this thing's hair wasn't that long on its head. I would say maybe two to three inches at the most. And its head was like a human.

13:24 It was a human, you know. In my mind, this was a person standing now. And I had a gun in my hand, so I stepped out and I saw the brown fur, and I've been around Alaska a long time, so I immediately drew my pistol and then I realized what I was looking at, and I thought, in my mind, immediately this is a person. So I put my weapon on He immediately I looked at it. I'm guessing the immediate reaction to pull your pistol would be because you see that color, you think it's bare, something like that or absolutely, yeah, yes, everybody where, I can't say everybody, in my opinion, the people that spend a whole lot of time out in the outdoors here in Alaska, they do it armed. Sure, you look at all the villagers when they leave their villages, they're armed. So it's natural to be armed here. If you don't, you're kind of be in bear bait.

14:22 Absolutely, from from things I've seen about Alaska, you do not. You don't get many chances to mess around, for sure. You get made one change and messes. So that's right. You make one mistake out here, especially when you're alone, like I go and you're done, it's over. So you just gotta be careful. So anyway, that's so, I know you Let me talk about the next one to five year later thing real quick, before we get to that that area you were in, were there ever any stories you heard of other sightings or was it a pretty unique thing for the area that you were in? Well, I didn't you know. Of course, this has started me on my big soft squatch. Sure adventure of the Internet trying to find information. So you know, beforehand, I didn't really care about him. I never heard about him. You know, I'd heard about this thing called the acoustica, but it wasn't a big foot.

15:20 It's the Ottoman exactly. So I'm inland, you know, right now, and I'm about a mile a mile and a half from where I was, and I'm inland one hundred and twenty miles from the goal or the coast. So there's no custic here here, That's what I'm saying. Gotcha had on the coast, and so anyway, yeah, let's go, there's the answer. Yeah. So afterwards, yes, absolutely, I found out lots of things about this area of it. Five years later, then you had another thing happened to you, which is totally unexpected because you're only expecting maybe one in your lifetime. Yes, correct, Yeah, I mean it's not realistic to think you're going to see another one. So anyway, yeah, I saw another one last year. And then the other one is I saw disappearing stump in the same area. Interesting, a disappearing stump, Yes, and I can explain that one. Yeah. Yeah, so I've had back problems and their service related. So I've had, you know, treatments in my back. Unfortunately I left me unable to walk for a while. So when I was able to walk, I walked all over the place like the doctor

16:52 in the physical therapist set. So I walked from about where I am down to the the tow road, walk in there, walk all over the place on uneven surfaces because that's what the doctor wanted me to do. And then when I was about I couldn't do it anymore, and I'd walked back home back here, and I did that day after day after day after day. It's just physical therapy I have to do. If I want to walk, I have to do it. So I walk this trail over and over every day. And in Alaska this time of year, it doesn't really get dark. It's smart twilight. So I walked this trail and I'm headed towards the tow and I've looked at this same trail and everything in it a whole bunch of times, so everything's basically memorized. And as I walk up, and I'm a hunter photographer, so I can tell you what's not really supposed to be in place. If I saw a place and something changed. I could pretty much tell you what it was. My brain will tell me there's something change anyway. So I'm walking down the trail and I'm looking to the right for no reason, and I see this big black stump. Now, the toe of the glacier is where the glacier is receding, meaning nothing can grow there quick enough. That would be a three foot stump or more. That's that's impossible. What's the things petrified? And I've walked this very old bunch

18:27 and I've never seen it. So I stop and I look at it, and I light up a cigarette, and I'm thinking, you know, I'm tired anyway, because I'm hurting, and I look at this stump and I'm thinking, well, shout, I'm gonna go say what is this thing? It's weird. It shouldn't be here. And I walked towards it, and my feet get tangled in the brush. I look down, you know, get them mon tangles and keep going and I look up and it's gone. Oh boy. And one thing I hadn't told you is while I was watching this stone before I walked towards it, it opens its eyes. So on the side of the stone its eyes opened really, and I was shocked.

19:15 I'm like, what the F is this? So I thought whatever it was, it would get up and run away. And that's why I have a stand in there and slowly smoking the cligure. I looked at at this thing and it was probably it wasn't far at all. I don't know how many feet it was a way, as you know, I'm a bow hunter, it would be an easy shots of twenty five thirty yards. So I'm like, well, and then it closed its eyes and it turned it into it. You know, you couldn't tell it wasn't anything else. I'm like, well, I'm gonna go find out what it is. So I got a gun on with no big deal. So I walked towards it, get stuck at the brush a little bit. Look up, it's gone, no sound at all. I hadn't rained it a couple of days, and I'm like, well, if I walk in there, it sounds like I'm, you know, walking through a bunch of brushed up peanut shells or something. Boat.

20:18 So I'm like, well, this is weird. So I walk back in there anyway, and I look around for fifteen to twenty minutes. I look up in the trees. I look at the ground. I'm fairly good at tracking, nothing's disturbed. And I'm thinking, wow, what in the world. So I walk back to the road and with the trail, I walk down to the tow do my thing, and walk home. And as I walk home, I use the same trail and I'm keeping you know, I keep looking to my left, which is where that area was, and I see nothing. No big deal. So I go home, and you know, next day I get up, I have to go walking. So eventually I go walking. In this day, it's later, so it's probably eleven o'clock something like that, and I go walking because I put it off it or its I don't want to do it, but I do it.

21:15 So I go out there and the same trail, and I keep looking to the right because that's where I saw the disappearing stump. And I'm walking along looking for this stump looking thing, and I stop because something tells my brain while something's out of place. So I look and I'm studying the area and I've hurt really done that at that point, and I'm scanning the area and I'm like, wow, I'm not gonna spelling much time on it. And I'm about to leave and I look over and behind this spruce tree that's about twelve feet high is Oh. It's like like a traditional big footstanding now, except for this was jet black. Jet black. You couldn't see anything.

22:14 Light coming often, and it was still a little bit light. It's bluish light here. And it didn't move. It didn't I couldn't see its face. I didn't know if I was looking at me or looking the other way. I assumed I was looking at me. And it was enormous. It was twelve feet tall five five and a half feet wide, and it's like my brain didn't register what it was until it did, and it was like, oh shit. So I raised my right hand and I said a big brother, and I turned and I walked away and walked down the toe and did my thing wow. And eventually I came back because it's really the only way to get home this way. So I come back, and I freaked out. I'm looking behind me and stuff, but it didn't seem to bother it. You know, I got this feeling that I was watching the trail.

23:11 I think you're a crap about me. So anyway, I walked back that area and I'm really worried, and I keep looking all over the place, especially to my left, and I say nothing, that was the end of it. I find it really interesting the reaction you had when you saw it, was, you know, to raise your hands, say hey, big brother. What was it that you think that that made you do that reaction? Was it something you'd heard previously or is it just it just came out of you now? Because uh, in twenty seventeen, you know, I went on the rabbit hole for information about what i'd seen because I didn't know what i'd seen during that time. I'd learned that if you get into you know fairly close to these things. And in my opinion, since I saw on the first time, and I've listened to the Native tales and learnings, they say they're people. So somewhere I heard, hey, that's proper greeting. You should say, oh, big brother, I leave, or you should say more to it. But for me, that was all I could do, and that's what I did. When you were doing research into this the years prior, were you going directly to those that you may have known around you, or was this you know things online or both mostly online?

24:51 I know Native Stone and well throughout the state, but mostly down by the Copper River. Are yet at the basin and the two people ain't over well there. It's a man at a female, and the man is not from Alaska, and the lady is from western Alaska, so her knowledge would be limited to Alaska, of course, but more specified in that area. I did talk to the gentleman, and he did not like talking about it in general. He doesn't care, and he'll tell me areas that he just cannot sleep overnight. Because we both camp a lot. He does more than I do, know, but we'd always be on our rigs camping or you know whatever. I always ought to tell them. And so he told me the areas he couldn't sleep, which I find weird because the guy can you know, we're just out doors in them, and the native he can park is Reagan sleep anywhere I don't like I do. But there are basically three places down there that I cannot sleep him. I've tried, but you can't.

26:15 Are those areas you can mention or they're just random areas out in the bush? Oh I can mention him. I don't really want to get specific because I don't want to mess with the people in the area. Oh yeah, definitely not yeah, so, but you know, one of them, I didn't see anything, but I've heard things. And then the other two there's just creepy, dude. I mean, I can go anywhere, sleep anywhere. It doesn't bother me. There are two places other than my favorite place that are just creepy. So you know, it's a deep, dark rainforest. There's absolutely no light because the foliage grows over and if you usually have cloud cover, and if you get a moonless night, it's like being in a cave. Wow. You mentioned you've heard some interesting things in certain areas. Have you ever heard like vocalizations things like that? Yes, but what kind of things? I have a glad a few of the things.

27:25 The strangest thing is I was done by this place. I call it the Grailing Pond, and it's probably eighteen miles from the little village and back in the off the main road there. I don't know how many miles. It's a little log and trails you follow, and if you don't know, you're going to get lost anyway. So I'm part next to this grailing pond and I got one of those solo rangers going it's a fire pits, and I'm sitting on the launch air kind of thing camp chair on my few go on a table that they had laid on, and I'm reading a book and it's nice though I don't know that misty. You know, it's a rain for us, so it's doable. Anything used to it. So I'm sitting there reading this book and I hear the you know, owls, they're not uncom and but first I hear ratums, and I'm like, why are ratums out to sermon night? So they shut up and I get back, but went back to reading. And then I heard owls, and the owls they didn't sound right. There was too menium. You know, if you're hear an owl, it's alone. It may have somebody else with it, you know, another owl, but it's in another area hunting just like it is.

28:52 You don't hunt together. So I'm like, well, that's strange. It was like three of them, and I thought that's weird. Maybe it's reading season or something. So the hoos don't seem correct. And then one of the one of the who said, I'm here sitting back reading a book, not really caring paying attention, and this who turned into like the loudest scream from a woman you will ever hear in your life. And it was ridiculously long. And I put the book away and I looked around, because I'm on the millinoire. Anything you walk up at eating, I don't have a sense reading around me. And I'm like, what the hell was that?

29:48 So I sat there for a while and I thought, well, I'm listen to this, and another one doesn't, and another one doesn't, and I'm like, wow, And they're not that far away. They're like, to me, they were like on the backside between me and the sound is a grayling pond, an opener, you know, it's kind of an open area, it's tundra, and then it goes up under the side of the mountain. And to me, they sounded like they were way back up the mountain, but they were really loud. I feel. I thought, well, that's weird, and it was a little freaked out. So I sat there and you know, nothing really happened, and then the ravens kicked off again.

30:36 And then and then we heard or I heard coyotes, and I thought, this is really weird. There is no way this is going on. This starve and night there's nothing out here to draw them. Where I am. At the time, there was rivers through a river. It's small riverside the ford to get to where I was, and they were packed with salmon. That's a great time to go camping because nothing's going to mess with you big weeks in anyway. Eventually these things are screaming based on the coyotes, and then I turned into people yelling, and then there's multiple ones going off at one time, and then I hear this one and it is so loud it cannot be explained. It shook my entire body. It fired off with this crazy scream like a lady. It was really really loud, so it's I don't even know explain it. It's this piercing scream like a woman that's really in trouble. And then it turned into shit, kind of a man being, you know, murdered, and then turned into like this animalistic screen

32:09 and it was almost all at wance. It's really hard to explain. So I'm out there in the woods and I'm it's dark as you mean, if I showed my light off, I can't see anything, and I'm like, wow, I think it's time to go. I load my chair into the truck, and you know, do my little make sure everything's picked up all the fire puts do out to do in any too. I'm gonna worry about the rain fours. It's not gonna burn. You're not gonna have a floors fire there. So I get in the truck, and the way my SUVs made, I can look backwards with the doors open, and I have a chair back there where I could just chill out in and read. So I was I'm like, well, at least i'll be in here. So I shut the two doors and I had to window, and I'm like, okay, I want to listen to this. So they kept screaming. They kept repeating the same, same, similar screams up on the mountain or between the mountain high and then there were like two huge ones that seemed to have flanked me on each side. And what they would do is when they would scream, it was mostly the one on my left side. When this thing would scream, it was like in competition with the others, and it screamed so loud, and it was you wouldn't believe it. I mean if you did,

33:45 if I hadn't heard it, I think, yeah, dude, you're sure it was loud. No, this is like louder than an M sixteen report. But they kept going and going. Finally the one on the right started. So I got these two gigantic things. I can't see ship and they're hollering like nothing I've ever heard. Just that's insane. So I'm like, well, I think it's tending to leave again. So I crawl over and I'm about to shut the hatch and just crawl on the front seat. I'm not going outside. And then the one on the left started laughing and it was this I can't produce it, but it was this deep, truly laugh and it started like oh, but then it turned into like this demonica laughing and it was incredibly loud and very deep. And then the one on the right did it. So I'm between these two things, and I'm thinking I should be terrified, but I'm not. And I started laughing along with these two guys or whatever, and I said, you know, there's something wrong here. I gotta get the hell out of here. So I listened a little longer, and I've been there maybe forty forty minutes at the most, something like that. I don't know since they started talking all what they

35:19 talked too, and I shut the hats and I'm like, I can't deal with us. I'm going somewhere else. I'm not super freaked out. So I crawl on the front and I drive towards this glacier that's hard to get to, and it's behind them, kind of behind the ridge, the same ridge I think they were yelling from, but it's kind of on the back side. So I parked there and I get out, you know, head of being so I've blot in the woods nor you know, there's no woods now, it's all open glacier scrub so I can see. And I get out, look around my light, do my thing and listen, and I don't hear anything but the glacier ice moving behind me, which is absolutely normal.

36:08 You know, it's about to set some of them on the side of the car or some of them size your fist. When the wind blows. They they can we bump into each other. So I'm thinking, okay, I'm going to sleep here tonight and I'll go deal with the fire upit in the morning. So I and I'm tired, so I crawled back in my I should be and go to bit make sure the doors are long, that there's nobody out there. There's no human beings out there. And sometime during the night I get I wake up and I hear this sounded something bouncing off the top of my I should be off the ruck. I don't think of what. Oh, and I you know, because it's a coast coastal area, coastal Alaska, I'm thinking about seagulls and you're dropping plans on me, trying to break them open. And I realized it's a middle and I thinking me out. So I listen and I hear these they're basically small pebbles.

37:20 They're getting bounced off the top of my truck. And I'm not scared, and I actually didn't care. I heard that if you let them do their thing, they get bored and leap, but if you interact with them, you know, they like that. It doesn't matter if it's good or bad. They just want to be interacted with. So I left them and I went to sleep, and everything was fine in the morning, and then in the morning I drove over it put them a far too then, you know, I loved Wow. You mentioned you heard them talking as well. Yes, can you describe what kind of of talking that you heard. All right, So I've been in Laska twelve years and I worked remote villages, native villages, and you pick, and I can't think of any other one anyway.

38:17 They're real common here, and you pick language where I used to hang out and work, that was common, So you pick. It's hard to you know, it's it almost sounds Asian, but it's it's it's it's its own thing. So these big things were sounding like they wanted to speak in Upick. They started, but it was like, yeah, I've never heard that. It's it's a different cadence. It's super fast, and they sound really angry. That's the only way I can explain it. And I only heard that from two guys. Those two males. I believe their nails.

39:00 You know, I didn't see anything. I couldn't. But the two that were closer to me, the big laughing designs, right, they were the ones that I heard speak, and I think they were talking to each other. Now on that was right before I last, and I'm like, now, so anyway I have heard speaking, it's people or whatever speaking in areas that it's impossible there's nobody there, and it's always this huge sounding thing. Wow. Usually women and children they laugh and you know, they say the thing and it sounds like they're picking berries and they're really happy. But you know, I know there's nobody there. I can go walk over it.

39:52 I'd already walked past this place. It's glacier. It's like a moon out here in some places, there's nothing there, so you want fast, you know, well, sit down. I'm a photographer, so you're ready to start taking pictures, and I'm like, you hear you could and you know there's nobody there. There's somebody out here. Would you ever go back to that area that you said is Grayling Lake or oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll go back. I plan to go back here probably next month. And that's in the that's the Wrangels Saint Elias National Park area is the same area as we were talking about. Direct. Wow, that's incredible.

40:39 So I'm in the Wrangels Saint Elias National Park right now and I'm indoors going to raining. I don't want to go out slop around. But you know, tomorrow I'll be able to the same exact place I saw these two sasquashes. It's not far and that's I still have to walk. Why and you're headed out there tomorrow. That's nuts. Wow, that's that's incredible. I was out there yesterday, Oh you were. Wow. Well, it's just yeah, I walk it all the time. You know. You can say, well, they get this weird feeling, and I do a little bit when I'm out there, but it's it's completely not I can't explain it.

41:23 It's not thriving at all. It's just I don't think they give a crap about me, and it's just happened to be in the area. It's happened to be there. Yeah, I always walk alone. I'm always alone out here, and it's not it's my choice because if I have a dog, it's loud. I can't get my wild wife photos. A lot of people are bored because you have to sit around quietly, you know, in Holy blind or whatever. And yeah, let's considered boring people. So what was your last question? Having no problem, have you heard anything that would be similar to anything that sounds like ape or a monkey or anything weird.

42:07 Sometimes people say they hear stuff like hoots or given things like that. Yeah, I have heard the hoot from a gigantic given or whatever they call them the things that screen, you know, a little monkey to make ridiculous sounds. It did sound kind of like that a couple of times, you know, when I've heard the hooting, they don't might do it over and over. It's like you'll hear in the background and you know, it's never meant anything to me. I don't care. It doesn't. I just don't care. You know, it doesn't register. It's not a threat nothing. I mean, I can't take a picture of it, right. Have you ever going to eat it? Have you ever considered taking audio recorder out with you when you go to these areas? Funny you may ask, I just go on, I love it. Now'll be out very much month and I'm actually going to camp out my favorite place that they happen to win the stream and we'll see what happens. I don't think I care about me much as I'm in the area. To me, it's like they're having a pot latch.

43:23 You know what that is? Remind me? I think I know the gist of what you're saying, but I'd love to hear about it. So a pot latch or a pow wow to like maybe a lesser extent. The natives it's basically a celebration and it can be for different things. Um, you know, Lord does what they're celebrating. But that's what it reminds me of. Fascinating. They're definitely happen fun. If you happen to get some interesting audio, fully reach out. I would love. I would love to hear it, and I can get you in touch with some guys that can really analyze it as well. If if Yeah, that's what I was looking forward, you know. And the whole thing is I can get the great videos.

44:15 I take pictures, you know what. Friends I can I can record yaio nothing, you know, it's just fun for me. It's care of you play for friends. Thank you every or distant woods. But you know my length is I don't care, you know what I mean, I totally totally get it. I'm looking over your email real quick, and um, you had mentioned in the email. I think it was that the Chug National Forest. Yeah, is that is that the Uh that's the area where you had mentioned before with like the screaming and the laughing, et cetera. Very interesting and I've seen some I've seen some giant footprints down there, really huge.

45:19 Oh it's ridiculous. I left, uh, And then I did see some other tracks down there that I actually I was a fishing guide and I want my clients freaking out, so I squished them all out. You you would wipe away the tracks so you wouldn't freak out your clients. Yeah. Wow, I mean they've played nickel. It's a lot of money to fly out there enough one that's incredible. I want to fly out there and say, you know, you look at go with the all that. You can't say, I don't know you're in the bush. They're with you. It's a one on one situation. They're going to make sure you're there, to make sure they live through this. They're gonna have fun, do whatever they want as long as it's legal. But you know it's me keeping the bears off them and showing them were to fish. Sure it makes sense. That's really boring sometimes. I mean, you know, I've got to build somewhere in that forest kind of does it kind of bump up against the Kenai Peninsula?

46:31 No? No, okay, No, when you get chance, google the Copper River and if you go down by there's a place I is where I saw the tracks me or it's called a Knight Island and it's within the actual Copper River and Night Island. That's a weird place is doing now? Yeah? Night Island not ill bringing into the Copper River basin Google what is so weird about that area? Oh, that's a report from the locals about something like a circular pool of light and it shoots up in the air and it's going really yeah yeah, if they can't make up yeah, I know.

47:27 And then the footprints I saw were huge, and I'm like, I'm not going looking. I just got my truck and left. I saw a hum a moongus bear out there. I don't I assume it was natural. I've seen plenty of bears one hundreds and five thousands old. Sixteen, you know, it seemed sixteen in a day. That's not the deal. But this bear, if we were if we were standing on a pavement and this thing walked past me, it would be I'm five twen. It would be as tall as my back or it's back my head would be. Maybe i'd be a little shorter. Mhm. Stuff you don't mess with for sure.

48:15 And I actually talked to the local law enforcement guy, you know, the federal forces, and I told him my son when I saw it laughter, and he's like, yeah, they get really big. He's like, usually people don't see him from that or some of the regulations. You win, That's not what I'm looking for, man, right, Yeah, I'm like, is there a third species of fair out there? That's what I asked him. He's like, no, they just gets you know, they keep growing if they have food. Wow. Anyway, Joe, incredible accounts. Thank you so much for spending some time chatting about this. This has been Please if you'd by hearing anything else, I'll s to you fantastic And yeah, I definitely hope to hear from me in the future. But thank you so much Joe for chatting tonight. Are You're welcome here at Bigfoot Society.

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