July 28, 2023
Alaska Rainforest Sasquatch Encounters
Joe Morris is a outdoorsman, wilderness guide, wildlife photographer and more in Alaska.
Super remote Bigfoot sightings by a glacier and surrounded by screams in a rainforest? You're going to love this one!
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Joe Morris is a outdoorsman, wilderness guide, wildlife photographer and more in Alaska.
Super remote Bigfoot sightings by a glacier and surrounded by screams in a rainforest? You're going to love this one!
Resources:
WATCH THE IOWA EPISODE IN THE “SASQUATCH: A SEARCH FOR SABE” DOCUMENTARY SERIES BY TATE HIERONYMUS // FIND OUT ALL ABOUT MY FIRST BIGFOOT ENCOUNTERS! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo8O4rvywzE
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So they kept screaming. They kept
repeating the same, same, similar screams
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up on the mountain or between the
mountain high and then there were like two
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huge ones that seemed to have flanked
me on each side. And what they
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would do is when they would scream, it was mostly one on my left
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side. When this thing would scream, it was like in competition with the
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others, And it screamed so loud, and it was you wouldn't believe it.
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I mean, if you did,
if I hadn't heard it, I
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think, yeah, dude, you're
sure it was loud. No, this
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is like louder than an M sixteen
report. But they kept going and going.
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This episode of big for Society,
I talked to Joe Morris, who
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is an outdoorsman, wildlife photographer and
more in the Great State of Alaska.
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Joe share some pretty intense bigfoot encounters, including one by a glacier in Wrangels
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Elias National Park and being surrounded by
screaming sasquatches and two catch National Forest as
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catchphrase, so let's get right into
it and get on with the show.
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All right, Big Society got the
privilege of talking to mister Joe Morris from
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out there in the bush in Alaska
tonight. How's it going, Joe?
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It's going well. Right now,
I am I'm in Wrangel Saint Elias National
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Park. It's the biggest national park
in the United States. It's fourteen thousand
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square miles. That's over by the
Yukon right kind of, we're below the
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Yukon. We're between well, we're
in the middle of nowhere. That's why
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nobody knows this. So McCarthy,
Alaska is a little tiny town. Let's
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inside this park and if you wanted
to google it, that's the only thing.
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It's the only way you're gonna find
me. Gotcha, gotcha? So
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how far? How how remote are
you? Right now? Away from like
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that? Is it your way out
in the bush, is what it sounds
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like. Yeah, I am,
yes, if you wanted to look at
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a map. I am three hundred
and twenty five miles from Anchorage and I
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don't know how far from Valdis,
but those are the two reference points.
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So yeah, I'm on the bush
way on the bush doing anything fun out
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there, a lot of hiking,
looking around, doing photography. We got
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a lot of bears this year.
Okay, so it's mating season, and
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you know, I don't really want
to be around him right now. Yeah,
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probably not watch it back, but
it sounds like you've had some really
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interesting encounters in that park, and
I'd love to talk to you about to
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tell me what kind of what kind
of things you run across out there.
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Well, we have all kinds of
bears and moose, and there's actually something
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that's more rare. I think that
a sasquatch and it's called a glacier bear
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and my sel one. So it
crawled up on me. I was not
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being quite at all, and I
had a campfire and it come up and
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looked at me, scared the crap
out of me. I didn't know what
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it was. Anyway. Other than
that, I've seen one sasquatch within forty
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yards in the sunlight, as clear
as if you were standing there. What
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happened is where I can tell you
the whole story. You won't restore from
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again. Absolutely. Yeah. Okay. So I was working at a lodge
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in McCarthy, Alaska. Not hard
to find out which one it is.
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I prefer I don't know what to
say. I don't really want to attention
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to draw into the lodge. It
has nothing to do with it. But
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I happen to be working there,
and it was late probably August, maybe
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July, I can't remember. And
a friend of mine works here, and
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he, you know, we were
just burner out because it's lower. It's
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only open first years amount the time, and you got to close it down
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open again next year. So we
were wiped And I said, hey,
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man, I'm going up to the
toe. I don't want to walk.
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I'm gonna grab my truck. You
want to go? And he's like yeah.
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So the toe is the end of
the Root Glacier, and the Root
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Glaciers built our ot and it's the
glacier that happens to be about a mile
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and a half from where I'm sitting. So anyway, we run up there
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and you can hear it melting and
want some while you'll see calves and you
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know, it's cool to watch.
It's ready, and it's cooler because it's
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summertime and you have a wind coming
off the ice. So we were on
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the way out there. It's going
slow and I'm in this old beat up
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Toyota and I you know, both
of us have done this trail a million
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times. So we're going up this
trail and I'm going really slow just in
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case there might be somebody or bears
jump out or whatever, because we're out
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the bush and I'm cruising along and
I come up just to a tiny rise,
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not really a hill. But as
I do, I see this black
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head and it's smoothly crossing in front
of us. Like well, I was
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going to the way it was moving. It was smooth. It was not
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like a bear walks, a moose
walks. Nothing walks. That's smooth.
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And I immediately I had an ice
cream headache, and I said it's a
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big foot. And my buddy wasn't
even paying attention. He's like what I
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stopped and I said, look,
dude, I think that's a big foot,
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and it walked behind the hill,
you know, the slight rise,
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so all we could see was like, I don't know, most of its
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head, and as it floated by, and it looked like it was floating.
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So I get up there with the
truck. I'm like, well,
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we're gonna go find it. So
when I come up over the rise and
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he's not there. Whatever it was
wasn't there, So I told me him,
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don't slam in the car door.
So I pull up into the brush
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a little bit and stop. We
opened the truck doors and I'm always armed
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with a ten millimeter sig and he
happened to have a R fifteen, which
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isn't great for bear, but it
makes a lot of noise. So I
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said, hey, if you go
down about sixty yards and circling in the
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bush, once you go in,
I'll go in and maybe you'll chase it
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to me. Whatever it is.
I thought it was a wounded bear.
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I did not, you know,
last thing on my mind was really his
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asquatch. I'd never seen one.
Don't really care about him, and he
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did. So when he walked in, I started walking in and I walked
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in just past the brush line,
kind of and I stopped in the shadows.
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You know, I wanted my whole
life now. He kind of walked
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in and made all kinds of noise
stumping in there, and he stopped,
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and I heard him kind of make
this weird noise, and he gasped,
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and I looked over at him automatically, and I had already scanned the area
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looking, but I heard him gasp
and I looked over and before my eyes
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could get to his area, I
realized there was a person standing there about
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forty feet away to me. This
thing looked about six foot five. It
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was well built, had the V
shaped body like a you know, like
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a linebacker or whatever. And it
wasn't looking at me. It appeared that
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it was looking, well, it
was not looking. It wasn't facing me.
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It's body basically was facing three quarter
away from me. So I was
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seeing the left shoulder, ear back, you could see the leg, but
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I couldn't see its face. And
it was like almost doing it on purpose,
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is what I got. Right in
that way, wouldn't look at me,
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kind of glanced at me, and
when it did, it's I couldn't
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believe it. The eyeball had a
little bit of yellow like our white eye
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care you would be. But this
thing, you know, it's sunlight.
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My glasses if I have these automatic
darkening glasses and they have darkened down,
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and I look at those things eyes
and the pupils are enormous. I mean,
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it's all pupil and I'm thinking,
how can this thing see in the
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Suddenly, you know, even in
owls eyes closed down quite a lot regular
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in the sunlight. That's not like
they're totally blown out like they do at
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night. And that's that was shocking. And then the next thing that freaked
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me out while I was completely in
shock. And the next thing it freaked
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me out as the way it ran. This thing took off with no gaining
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of speed like you know, a
bear wood or a human. The saint
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took off from zero to sixty It
appeared to be sixty miles an hour instantly,
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and we went about seventy five yards, jumped over some trees that were
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down, and then took off again
like sixty miles an hour, and that
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was it. That was the end
of it. So I walked back to
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the truck and Neil comes back and
he's all excited. He's like, hey,
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I saw a big foot I saw
a big foot and I'm like,
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what you see? And he says, I saw a human shaped arm.
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Exapproach too long, and this thing
was walking or running and he saw the
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arm swinging. Well that's not what
I saw. I saw the whole thing
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and it picks up for its face
and I don't know what gender or whatever
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sharing a female. So anyway,
it didn't really last long. It was
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gone. So we stood by the
truck and talked about it a little.
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We actually drove out to the toe
again, you know, kept going hung
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out and come back, looked around
and went on there. So that was
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that. That was two thousand seventeen. And it didn't keep me out of
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the woods. There was no violent
encounter or whatever. You were scared to
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go back in the woods. It
sounds like you you're pretty no comfortable with
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the woods. Oh hell yeah,
no, I go back in there.
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Yeah I did. Then it's not
like I'm going to see another one.
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Well, you know, fifty five
years old, we're back then anything goes
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fifty. Yeah, fifty is about
right. I've never seen it all my
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life, you know, a chance
of seeing another one or zero? And
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then I saw another one five years
later, right, and it was enormous.
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The first encounter that you had,
did you notice anything you saw the
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back of it? Sounded like,
do you notice anything about the shape of
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the head at all? Anything around
that part of the the big foot.
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All I saw is if well,
my son is it's six foot seven.
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So in my mind, this thing
is a couple's pinches shorter. It's it's
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shoulders are probably the same way,
maybe a little bit more. And it
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was very muscular. As far as
this head. I'm prior military, and
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if you take people in you shave
their heads like they're in the service,
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or even really short hair you can
see the shape of there. Yeah,
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so this thing's hair wasn't that long
on its head. I would say maybe
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two to three inches at the most. And its head was like a human.
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It was a human, you know. In my mind, this was
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a person standing now. And I
had a gun in my hand, so
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I stepped out and I saw the
brown fur, and I've been around Alaska
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a long time, so I immediately
drew my pistol and then I realized what
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I was looking at, and I
thought, in my mind, immediately this
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is a person. So I put
my weapon on He immediately I looked at
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it. I'm guessing the immediate reaction
to pull your pistol would be because you
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see that color, you think it's
bare, something like that or absolutely,
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yeah, yes, everybody where,
I can't say everybody, in my opinion,
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the people that spend a whole lot
of time out in the outdoors here
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in Alaska, they do it armed. Sure, you look at all the
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villagers when they leave their villages,
they're armed. So it's natural to be
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armed here. If you don't,
you're kind of be in bear bait.
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Absolutely, from from things I've seen
about Alaska, you do not. You
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don't get many chances to mess around, for sure. You get made one
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change and messes. So that's right. You make one mistake out here,
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especially when you're alone, like I
go and you're done, it's over.
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So you just gotta be careful.
So anyway, that's so, I know
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you Let me talk about the next
one to five year later thing real quick,
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before we get to that that area
you were in, were there ever
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any stories you heard of other sightings
or was it a pretty unique thing for
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the area that you were in?
Well, I didn't you know. Of
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course, this has started me on
my big soft squatch. Sure adventure of
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the Internet trying to find information.
So you know, beforehand, I didn't
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really care about him. I never
heard about him. You know, I'd
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heard about this thing called the acoustica, but it wasn't a big foot.
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It's the Ottoman exactly. So I'm
inland, you know, right now,
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and I'm about a mile a mile
and a half from where I was,
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and I'm inland one hundred and twenty
miles from the goal or the coast.
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So there's no custic here here,
That's what I'm saying. Gotcha had on
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the coast, and so anyway,
yeah, let's go, there's the answer.
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Yeah. So afterwards, yes,
absolutely, I found out lots of
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things about this area of it.
Five years later, then you had another
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thing happened to you, which is
totally unexpected because you're only expecting maybe one
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in your lifetime. Yes, correct, Yeah, I mean it's not realistic
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to think you're going to see another
one. So anyway, yeah, I
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saw another one last year. And
then the other one is I saw disappearing
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stump in the same area. Interesting, a disappearing stump, Yes, and
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I can explain that one. Yeah. Yeah, so I've had back problems
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and their service related. So I've
had, you know, treatments in my
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back. Unfortunately I left me unable
to walk for a while. So when
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I was able to walk, I
walked all over the place like the doctor
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in the physical therapist set. So
I walked from about where I am down
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to the the tow road, walk
in there, walk all over the place
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on uneven surfaces because that's what the
doctor wanted me to do. And then
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when I was about I couldn't do
it anymore, and I'd walked back home
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back here, and I did that
day after day after day after day.
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It's just physical therapy I have to
do. If I want to walk,
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I have to do it. So
I walk this trail over and over every
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day. And in Alaska this time
of year, it doesn't really get dark.
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It's smart twilight. So I walked
this trail and I'm headed towards the
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tow and I've looked at this same
trail and everything in it a whole bunch
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of times, so everything's basically memorized. And as I walk up, and
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I'm a hunter photographer, so I
can tell you what's not really supposed to
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be in place. If I saw
a place and something changed. I could
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pretty much tell you what it was. My brain will tell me there's something
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change anyway. So I'm walking down
the trail and I'm looking to the right
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for no reason, and I see
this big black stump. Now, the
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toe of the glacier is where the
glacier is receding, meaning nothing can grow
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there quick enough. That would be
a three foot stump or more. That's
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that's impossible. What's the things petrified? And I've walked this very old bunch
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and I've never seen it. So
I stop and I look at it,
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and I light up a cigarette,
and I'm thinking, you know, I'm
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tired anyway, because I'm hurting,
and I look at this stump and I'm
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thinking, well, shout, I'm
gonna go say what is this thing?
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It's weird. It shouldn't be here. And I walked towards it, and
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my feet get tangled in the brush. I look down, you know,
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get them mon tangles and keep going
and I look up and it's gone.
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Oh boy. And one thing I
hadn't told you is while I was watching
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this stone before I walked towards it, it opens its eyes. So on
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the side of the stone its eyes
opened really, and I was shocked.
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I'm like, what the F is
this? So I thought whatever it was,
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it would get up and run away. And that's why I have a
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stand in there and slowly smoking the
cligure. I looked at at this thing
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and it was probably it wasn't far
at all. I don't know how many
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feet it was a way, as
you know, I'm a bow hunter,
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it would be an easy shots of
twenty five thirty yards. So I'm like,
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well, and then it closed its
eyes and it turned it into it.
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You know, you couldn't tell it
wasn't anything else. I'm like,
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well, I'm gonna go find out
what it is. So I got a
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gun on with no big deal.
So I walked towards it, get stuck
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at the brush a little bit.
Look up, it's gone, no sound
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at all. I hadn't rained it
a couple of days, and I'm like,
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well, if I walk in there, it sounds like I'm, you
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know, walking through a bunch of
brushed up peanut shells or something. Boat.
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So I'm like, well, this
is weird. So I walk back
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in there anyway, and I look
around for fifteen to twenty minutes. I
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look up in the trees. I
look at the ground. I'm fairly good
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at tracking, nothing's disturbed. And
I'm thinking, wow, what in the
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world. So I walk back to
the road and with the trail, I
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walk down to the tow do my
thing, and walk home. And as
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I walk home, I use the
same trail and I'm keeping you know,
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I keep looking to my left,
which is where that area was, and
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I see nothing. No big deal. So I go home, and you
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know, next day I get up, I have to go walking. So
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eventually I go walking. In this
day, it's later, so it's probably
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eleven o'clock something like that, and
I go walking because I put it off
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it or its I don't want to
do it, but I do it.
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So I go out there and the
same trail, and I keep looking to
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the right because that's where I saw
the disappearing stump. And I'm walking along
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looking for this stump looking thing,
and I stop because something tells my brain
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while something's out of place. So
I look and I'm studying the area and
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I've hurt really done that at that
point, and I'm scanning the area and
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I'm like, wow, I'm not
gonna spelling much time on it. And
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I'm about to leave and I look
over and behind this spruce tree that's about
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twelve feet high is Oh. It's
like like a traditional big footstanding now,
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except for this was jet black.
Jet black. You couldn't see anything.
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Light coming often, and it was
still a little bit light. It's bluish
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light here. And it didn't move. It didn't I couldn't see its face.
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I didn't know if I was looking
at me or looking the other way.
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I assumed I was looking at me. And it was enormous. It
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was twelve feet tall five five and
a half feet wide, and it's like
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my brain didn't register what it was
until it did, and it was like,
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oh shit. So I raised my
right hand and I said a big
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brother, and I turned and I
walked away and walked down the toe and
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did my thing wow. And eventually
I came back because it's really the only
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way to get home this way.
So I come back, and I freaked
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out. I'm looking behind me and
stuff, but it didn't seem to bother
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it. You know, I got
this feeling that I was watching the trail.
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I think you're a crap about me. So anyway, I walked back
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that area and I'm really worried,
and I keep looking all over the place,
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especially to my left, and I
say nothing, that was the end
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of it. I find it really
interesting the reaction you had when you saw
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it, was, you know,
to raise your hands, say hey,
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big brother. What was it that
you think that that made you do that
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reaction? Was it something you'd heard
previously or is it just it just came
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out of you now? Because uh, in twenty seventeen, you know,
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I went on the rabbit hole for
information about what i'd seen because I didn't
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know what i'd seen during that time. I'd learned that if you get into
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you know fairly close to these things. And in my opinion, since I
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saw on the first time, and
I've listened to the Native tales and learnings,
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they say they're people. So somewhere
I heard, hey, that's proper
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greeting. You should say, oh, big brother, I leave, or
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you should say more to it.
But for me, that was all I
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could do, and that's what I
did. When you were doing research into
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this the years prior, were you
going directly to those that you may have
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known around you, or was this
you know things online or both mostly online?
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I know Native Stone and well throughout
the state, but mostly down by
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the Copper River. Are yet at
the basin and the two people ain't over
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well there. It's a man at
a female, and the man is not
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from Alaska, and the lady is
from western Alaska, so her knowledge would
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be limited to Alaska, of course, but more specified in that area.
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I did talk to the gentleman,
and he did not like talking about it
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in general. He doesn't care,
and he'll tell me areas that he just
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cannot sleep overnight. Because we both
camp a lot. He does more than
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I do, know, but we'd
always be on our rigs camping or you
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know whatever. I always ought to
tell them. And so he told me
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the areas he couldn't sleep, which
I find weird because the guy can you
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know, we're just out doors in
them, and the native he can park
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is Reagan sleep anywhere I don't like
I do. But there are basically three
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places down there that I cannot sleep
him. I've tried, but you can't.
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Are those areas you can mention or
they're just random areas out in the
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bush? Oh I can mention him. I don't really want to get specific
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because I don't want to mess with
the people in the area. Oh yeah,
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definitely not yeah, so, but
you know, one of them,
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I didn't see anything, but I've
heard things. And then the other two
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there's just creepy, dude. I
mean, I can go anywhere, sleep
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anywhere. It doesn't bother me.
There are two places other than my favorite
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place that are just creepy. So
you know, it's a deep, dark
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rainforest. There's absolutely no light because
the foliage grows over and if you usually
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have cloud cover, and if you
get a moonless night, it's like being
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in a cave. Wow. You
mentioned you've heard some interesting things in certain
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areas. Have you ever heard like
vocalizations things like that? Yes, but
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what kind of things? I have
a glad a few of the things.
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The strangest thing is I was done
by this place. I call it the
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Grailing Pond, and it's probably eighteen
miles from the little village and back in
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the off the main road there.
I don't know how many miles. It's
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a little log and trails you follow, and if you don't know, you're
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going to get lost anyway. So
I'm part next to this grailing pond and
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I got one of those solo rangers
going it's a fire pits, and I'm
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sitting on the launch air kind of
thing camp chair on my few go on
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a table that they had laid on, and I'm reading a book and it's
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nice though I don't know that misty. You know, it's a rain for
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us, so it's doable. Anything
used to it. So I'm sitting there
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reading this book and I hear the
you know, owls, they're not uncom
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and but first I hear ratums,
and I'm like, why are ratums out
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to sermon night? So they shut
up and I get back, but went
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back to reading. And then I
heard owls, and the owls they didn't
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sound right. There was too menium. You know, if you're hear an
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owl, it's alone. It may
have somebody else with it, you know,
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another owl, but it's in another
area hunting just like it is.
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You don't hunt together. So I'm
like, well, that's strange. It
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was like three of them, and
I thought that's weird. Maybe it's reading
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season or something. So the hoos
don't seem correct. And then one of
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the one of the who said,
I'm here sitting back reading a book,
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not really caring paying attention, and
this who turned into like the loudest scream
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from a woman you will ever hear
in your life. And it was ridiculously
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long. And I put the book
away and I looked around, because I'm
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on the millinoire. Anything you walk
up at eating, I don't have a
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sense reading around me. And I'm
like, what the hell was that?
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So I sat there for a while
and I thought, well, I'm listen
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to this, and another one doesn't, and another one doesn't, and I'm
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like, wow, And they're not
that far away. They're like, to
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me, they were like on the
backside between me and the sound is a
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grayling pond, an opener, you
know, it's kind of an open area,
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it's tundra, and then it goes
up under the side of the mountain.
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And to me, they sounded like
they were way back up the mountain,
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but they were really loud. I
feel. I thought, well,
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that's weird, and it was a
little freaked out. So I sat there
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and you know, nothing really happened, and then the ravens kicked off again.
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And then and then we heard or
I heard coyotes, and I thought,
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this is really weird. There is
no way this is going on.
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This starve and night there's nothing out
here to draw them. Where I am.
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At the time, there was rivers
through a river. It's small riverside
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the ford to get to where I
was, and they were packed with salmon.
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That's a great time to go camping
because nothing's going to mess with you
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big weeks in anyway. Eventually these
things are screaming based on the coyotes,
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and then I turned into people yelling, and then there's multiple ones going off
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at one time, and then I
hear this one and it is so loud
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it cannot be explained. It shook
my entire body. It fired off with
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this crazy scream like a lady.
It was really really loud, so it's
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I don't even know explain it.
It's this piercing scream like a woman that's
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really in trouble. And then it
turned into shit, kind of a man
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being, you know, murdered,
and then turned into like this animalistic screen
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and it was almost all at wance. It's really hard to explain. So
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I'm out there in the woods and
I'm it's dark as you mean, if
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I showed my light off, I
can't see anything, and I'm like,
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wow, I think it's time to
go. I load my chair into the
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truck, and you know, do
my little make sure everything's picked up all
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the fire puts do out to do
in any too. I'm gonna worry about
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the rain fours. It's not gonna
burn. You're not gonna have a floors
378
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fire there. So I get in
the truck, and the way my SUVs
379
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made, I can look backwards with
the doors open, and I have a
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chair back there where I could just
chill out in and read. So I
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was I'm like, well, at
least i'll be in here. So I
382
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shut the two doors and I had
to window, and I'm like, okay,
383
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I want to listen to this.
So they kept screaming. They kept
384
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repeating the same, same, similar
screams up on the mountain or between the
385
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mountain high and then there were like
two huge ones that seemed to have flanked
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me on each side. And what
they would do is when they would scream,
387
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it was mostly the one on my
left side. When this thing would
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scream, it was like in competition
with the others, and it screamed so
389
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loud, and it was you wouldn't
believe it. I mean if you did,
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if I hadn't heard it, I
think, yeah, dude, you're
391
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sure it was loud. No,
this is like louder than an M sixteen
392
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report. But they kept going and
going. Finally the one on the right
393
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started. So I got these two
gigantic things. I can't see ship and
394
00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:14.559
they're hollering like nothing I've ever heard. Just that's insane. So I'm like,
395
00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:19.000
well, I think it's tending to
leave again. So I crawl over
396
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and I'm about to shut the hatch
and just crawl on the front seat.
397
00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:31.239
I'm not going outside. And then
the one on the left started laughing and
398
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it was this I can't produce it, but it was this deep, truly
399
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laugh and it started like oh,
but then it turned into like this demonica
400
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:51.679
laughing and it was incredibly loud and
very deep. And then the one on
401
00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:54.559
the right did it. So I'm
between these two things, and I'm thinking
402
00:34:55.000 --> 00:35:04.559
I should be terrified, but I'm
not. And I started laughing along with
403
00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:07.719
these two guys or whatever, and
I said, you know, there's something
404
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:10.239
wrong here. I gotta get the
hell out of here. So I listened
405
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a little longer, and I've been
there maybe forty forty minutes at the most,
406
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:19.559
something like that. I don't know
since they started talking all what they
407
00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:25.000
talked too, and I shut the
hats and I'm like, I can't deal
408
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with us. I'm going somewhere else. I'm not super freaked out. So
409
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:35.000
I crawl on the front and I
drive towards this glacier that's hard to get
410
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to, and it's behind them,
kind of behind the ridge, the same
411
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ridge I think they were yelling from, but it's kind of on the back
412
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side. So I parked there and
I get out, you know, head
413
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of being so I've blot in the
woods nor you know, there's no woods
414
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now, it's all open glacier scrub
so I can see. And I get
415
00:35:55.920 --> 00:36:01.599
out, look around my light,
do my thing and listen, and I
416
00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:07.559
don't hear anything but the glacier ice
moving behind me, which is absolutely normal.
417
00:36:08.039 --> 00:36:10.239
You know, it's about to set
some of them on the side of
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the car or some of them size
your fist. When the wind blows.
419
00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:19.480
They they can we bump into each
other. So I'm thinking, okay,
420
00:36:19.480 --> 00:36:24.000
I'm going to sleep here tonight and
I'll go deal with the fire upit in
421
00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:30.519
the morning. So I and I'm
tired, so I crawled back in my
422
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:37.480
I should be and go to bit
make sure the doors are long, that
423
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:45.000
there's nobody out there. There's no
human beings out there. And sometime during
424
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the night I get I wake up
and I hear this sounded something bouncing off
425
00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:59.039
the top of my I should be
off the ruck. I don't think of
426
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:05.119
what. Oh, and I you
know, because it's a coast coastal area,
427
00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:09.280
coastal Alaska, I'm thinking about seagulls
and you're dropping plans on me,
428
00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:13.880
trying to break them open. And
I realized it's a middle and I thinking
429
00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:19.639
me out. So I listen and
I hear these they're basically small pebbles.
430
00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:23.360
They're getting bounced off the top of
my truck. And I'm not scared,
431
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:31.760
and I actually didn't care. I
heard that if you let them do their
432
00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:36.639
thing, they get bored and leap, but if you interact with them,
433
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:38.280
you know, they like that.
It doesn't matter if it's good or bad.
434
00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:42.000
They just want to be interacted with. So I left them and I
435
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:45.199
went to sleep, and everything was
fine in the morning, and then in
436
00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:50.000
the morning I drove over it put
them a far too then, you know,
437
00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:58.519
I loved Wow. You mentioned you
heard them talking as well. Yes,
438
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:06.920
can you describe what kind of of
talking that you heard. All right,
439
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:12.360
So I've been in Laska twelve years
and I worked remote villages, native
440
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:16.920
villages, and you pick, and
I can't think of any other one anyway.
441
00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:21.800
They're real common here, and you
pick language where I used to hang
442
00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:25.360
out and work, that was common, So you pick. It's hard to
443
00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:30.920
you know, it's it almost sounds
Asian, but it's it's it's it's its
444
00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:39.679
own thing. So these big things
were sounding like they wanted to speak in
445
00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:44.840
Upick. They started, but it
was like, yeah, I've never heard
446
00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:49.440
that. It's it's a different cadence. It's super fast, and they sound
447
00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:55.639
really angry. That's the only way
I can explain it. And I only
448
00:38:55.800 --> 00:39:00.760
heard that from two guys. Those
two males. I believe their nails.
449
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:04.239
You know, I didn't see anything. I couldn't. But the two that
450
00:39:04.360 --> 00:39:09.280
were closer to me, the big
laughing designs, right, they were the
451
00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:13.320
ones that I heard speak, and
I think they were talking to each other.
452
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:20.800
Now on that was right before I
last, and I'm like, now,
453
00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:30.119
so anyway I have heard speaking,
it's people or whatever speaking in areas
454
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:37.840
that it's impossible there's nobody there,
and it's always this huge sounding thing.
455
00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:44.360
Wow. Usually women and children they
laugh and you know, they say the
456
00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:49.639
thing and it sounds like they're picking
berries and they're really happy. But you
457
00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:52.199
know, I know there's nobody there. I can go walk over it.
458
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:55.119
I'd already walked past this place.
It's glacier. It's like a moon out
459
00:39:55.199 --> 00:40:02.719
here in some places, there's nothing
there, so you want fast, you
460
00:40:02.800 --> 00:40:07.360
know, well, sit down.
I'm a photographer, so you're ready to
461
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:12.960
start taking pictures, and I'm like, you hear you could and you know
462
00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:19.000
there's nobody there. There's somebody out
here. Would you ever go back to
463
00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:24.000
that area that you said is Grayling
Lake or oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
464
00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:27.400
yeah, I'll go back. I
plan to go back here probably next
465
00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:36.599
month. And that's in the that's
the Wrangels Saint Elias National Park area is
466
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:38.760
the same area as we were talking
about. Direct. Wow, that's incredible.
467
00:40:39.719 --> 00:40:45.800
So I'm in the Wrangels Saint Elias
National Park right now and I'm indoors
468
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:50.880
going to raining. I don't want
to go out slop around. But you
469
00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:53.159
know, tomorrow I'll be able to
the same exact place I saw these two
470
00:40:53.159 --> 00:41:00.320
sasquashes. It's not far and that's
I still have to walk. Why and
471
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:05.840
you're headed out there tomorrow. That's
nuts. Wow, that's that's incredible.
472
00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:07.440
I was out there yesterday, Oh
you were. Wow. Well, it's
473
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:13.360
just yeah, I walk it all
the time. You know. You can
474
00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:16.000
say, well, they get this
weird feeling, and I do a little
475
00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:23.960
bit when I'm out there, but
it's it's completely not I can't explain it.
476
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:29.960
It's not thriving at all. It's
just I don't think they give a
477
00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:32.280
crap about me, and it's just
happened to be in the area. It's
478
00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:36.760
happened to be there. Yeah,
I always walk alone. I'm always alone
479
00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:40.400
out here, and it's not it's
my choice because if I have a dog,
480
00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:44.800
it's loud. I can't get my
wild wife photos. A lot of
481
00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:47.480
people are bored because you have to
sit around quietly, you know, in
482
00:41:47.639 --> 00:41:57.039
Holy blind or whatever. And yeah, let's considered boring people. So what
483
00:41:57.119 --> 00:42:00.559
was your last question? Having no
problem, have you heard anything that would
484
00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:07.519
be similar to anything that sounds like
ape or a monkey or anything weird.
485
00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:15.280
Sometimes people say they hear stuff like
hoots or given things like that. Yeah,
486
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:23.519
I have heard the hoot from a
gigantic given or whatever they call them
487
00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:29.480
the things that screen, you know, a little monkey to make ridiculous sounds.
488
00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:31.639
It did sound kind of like that
a couple of times, you know,
489
00:42:31.639 --> 00:42:35.440
when I've heard the hooting, they
don't might do it over and over.
490
00:42:35.679 --> 00:42:39.599
It's like you'll hear in the background
and you know, it's never meant
491
00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:45.920
anything to me. I don't care. It doesn't. I just don't care.
492
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:47.679
You know, it doesn't register.
It's not a threat nothing. I
493
00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:53.079
mean, I can't take a picture
of it, right. Have you ever
494
00:42:53.079 --> 00:42:58.199
going to eat it? Have you
ever considered taking audio recorder out with you
495
00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:04.199
when you go to these areas?
Funny you may ask, I just go
496
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:09.920
on, I love it. Now'll
be out very much month and I'm actually
497
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:15.400
going to camp out my favorite place
that they happen to win the stream and
498
00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:20.199
we'll see what happens. I don't
think I care about me much as I'm
499
00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:22.440
in the area. To me,
it's like they're having a pot latch.
500
00:43:23.519 --> 00:43:29.039
You know what that is? Remind
me? I think I know the gist
501
00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:32.719
of what you're saying, but I'd
love to hear about it. So a
502
00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:40.280
pot latch or a pow wow to
like maybe a lesser extent. The natives
503
00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:45.440
it's basically a celebration and it can
be for different things. Um, you
504
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:49.960
know, Lord does what they're celebrating. But that's what it reminds me of.
505
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:59.039
Fascinating. They're definitely happen fun.
If you happen to get some interesting
506
00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:04.000
audio, fully reach out. I
would love. I would love to hear
507
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:06.440
it, and I can get you
in touch with some guys that can really
508
00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:09.960
analyze it as well. If if
Yeah, that's what I was looking forward,
509
00:44:12.760 --> 00:44:15.840
you know. And the whole thing
is I can get the great videos.
510
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:19.639
I take pictures, you know what. Friends I can I can record
511
00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:29.519
yaio nothing, you know, it's
just fun for me. It's care of
512
00:44:29.519 --> 00:44:37.280
you play for friends. Thank you
every or distant woods. But you know
513
00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:45.519
my length is I don't care,
you know what I mean, I totally
514
00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:53.079
totally get it. I'm looking over
your email real quick, and um,
515
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:58.119
you had mentioned in the email.
I think it was that the Chug National
516
00:44:58.199 --> 00:45:06.519
Forest. Yeah, is that is
that the Uh that's the area where you
517
00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:13.440
had mentioned before with like the screaming
and the laughing, et cetera. Very
518
00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:19.199
interesting and I've seen some I've seen
some giant footprints down there, really huge.
519
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:23.360
Oh it's ridiculous. I left,
uh, And then I did see
520
00:45:23.400 --> 00:45:28.400
some other tracks down there that I
actually I was a fishing guide and I
521
00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:34.400
want my clients freaking out, so
I squished them all out. You you
522
00:45:34.440 --> 00:45:40.079
would wipe away the tracks so you
wouldn't freak out your clients. Yeah.
523
00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:45.079
Wow, I mean they've played nickel. It's a lot of money to fly
524
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:50.119
out there enough one that's incredible.
I want to fly out there and say,
525
00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:55.599
you know, you look at go
with the all that. You can't
526
00:45:55.639 --> 00:46:00.880
say, I don't know you're in
the bush. They're with you. It's
527
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:05.519
a one on one situation. They're
going to make sure you're there, to
528
00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:07.599
make sure they live through this.
They're gonna have fun, do whatever they
529
00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:13.079
want as long as it's legal.
But you know it's me keeping the bears
530
00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:16.440
off them and showing them were to
fish. Sure it makes sense. That's
531
00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:23.679
really boring sometimes. I mean,
you know, I've got to build somewhere
532
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:30.280
in that forest kind of does it
kind of bump up against the Kenai Peninsula?
533
00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:38.079
No? No, okay, No, when you get chance, google
534
00:46:38.199 --> 00:46:49.440
the Copper River and if you go
down by there's a place I is where
535
00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:54.159
I saw the tracks me or it's
called a Knight Island and it's within the
536
00:46:54.199 --> 00:47:00.559
actual Copper River and Night Island.
That's a weird place is doing now?
537
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:07.440
Yeah? Night Island not ill bringing
into the Copper River basin Google what is
538
00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:15.440
so weird about that area? Oh, that's a report from the locals about
539
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:20.760
something like a circular pool of light
and it shoots up in the air and
540
00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:27.559
it's going really yeah yeah, if
they can't make up yeah, I know.
541
00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:30.000
And then the footprints I saw were
huge, and I'm like, I'm
542
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:34.199
not going looking. I just got
my truck and left. I saw a
543
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:37.239
hum a moongus bear out there.
I don't I assume it was natural.
544
00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:45.039
I've seen plenty of bears one hundreds
and five thousands old. Sixteen, you
545
00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:47.880
know, it seemed sixteen in a
day. That's not the deal. But
546
00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:53.800
this bear, if we were if
we were standing on a pavement and this
547
00:47:53.920 --> 00:48:00.960
thing walked past me, it would
be I'm five twen. It would be
548
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:06.920
as tall as my back or it's
back my head would be. Maybe i'd
549
00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:14.719
be a little shorter. Mhm.
Stuff you don't mess with for sure.
550
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:21.079
And I actually talked to the local
law enforcement guy, you know, the
551
00:48:21.159 --> 00:48:27.679
federal forces, and I told him
my son when I saw it laughter,
552
00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:30.119
and he's like, yeah, they
get really big. He's like, usually
553
00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:34.000
people don't see him from that or
some of the regulations. You win,
554
00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:39.519
That's not what I'm looking for,
man, right, Yeah, I'm like,
555
00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:43.320
is there a third species of fair
out there? That's what I asked
556
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:45.880
him. He's like, no,
they just gets you know, they keep
557
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:54.360
growing if they have food. Wow. Anyway, Joe, incredible accounts.
558
00:48:54.360 --> 00:48:59.519
Thank you so much for spending some
time chatting about this. This has been
559
00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:08.000
Please if you'd by hearing anything else, I'll s to you fantastic And yeah,
560
00:49:08.119 --> 00:49:13.039
I definitely hope to hear from me
in the future. But thank you
561
00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:19.079
so much Joe for chatting tonight.
Are You're welcome here at Bigfoot Society.
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Article is to provide a platform for
those that have encountered Bigfoot to share their
563
00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:30.039
encounter in a safe and respected environment. But we need to hear your story.
564
00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:35.320
If you've experienced something that you just
can't explain, please send me an
565
00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:40.679
email at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot
com. Then we can start the conversation.
566
00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:45.599
And I know a lot of you
have not shared your encounter at all.
567
00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:51.480
It's been twenty years and it's time
that you get this off your chest
568
00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:54.119
and then you can get some well
deserved for rest, because I know you
569
00:49:54.159 --> 00:50:00.320
haven't been sleeping. I understand what
you're going through, and I appreciate every
570
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one of you listening
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So they kept screaming. They kept
repeating the same, same, similar screams
2
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up on the mountain or between the
mountain high and then there were like two
3
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huge ones that seemed to have flanked
me on each side. And what they
4
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would do is when they would scream, it was mostly one on my left
5
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side. When this thing would scream, it was like in competition with the
6
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others, And it screamed so loud, and it was you wouldn't believe it.
7
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I mean, if you did,
if I hadn't heard it, I
8
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think, yeah, dude, you're
sure it was loud. No, this
9
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is like louder than an M sixteen
report. But they kept going and going.
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This episode of big for Society,
I talked to Joe Morris, who
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is an outdoorsman, wildlife photographer and
more in the Great State of Alaska.
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Joe share some pretty intense bigfoot encounters, including one by a glacier in Wrangels
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Elias National Park and being surrounded by
screaming sasquatches and two catch National Forest as
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All right, Big Society got the
privilege of talking to mister Joe Morris from
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out there in the bush in Alaska
tonight. How's it going, Joe?
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It's going well. Right now,
I am I'm in Wrangel Saint Elias National
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Park. It's the biggest national park
in the United States. It's fourteen thousand
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square miles. That's over by the
Yukon right kind of, we're below the
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Yukon. We're between well, we're
in the middle of nowhere. That's why
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nobody knows this. So McCarthy,
Alaska is a little tiny town. Let's
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inside this park and if you wanted
to google it, that's the only thing.
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It's the only way you're gonna find
me. Gotcha, gotcha? So
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how far? How how remote are
you? Right now? Away from like
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that? Is it your way out
in the bush, is what it sounds
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like. Yeah, I am,
yes, if you wanted to look at
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a map. I am three hundred
and twenty five miles from Anchorage and I
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don't know how far from Valdis,
but those are the two reference points.
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So yeah, I'm on the bush
way on the bush doing anything fun out
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there, a lot of hiking,
looking around, doing photography. We got
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a lot of bears this year.
Okay, so it's mating season, and
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you know, I don't really want
to be around him right now. Yeah,
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probably not watch it back, but
it sounds like you've had some really
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interesting encounters in that park, and
I'd love to talk to you about to
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tell me what kind of what kind
of things you run across out there.
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Well, we have all kinds of
bears and moose, and there's actually something
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that's more rare. I think that
a sasquatch and it's called a glacier bear
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and my sel one. So it
crawled up on me. I was not
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being quite at all, and I
had a campfire and it come up and
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looked at me, scared the crap
out of me. I didn't know what
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it was. Anyway. Other than
that, I've seen one sasquatch within forty
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yards in the sunlight, as clear
as if you were standing there. What
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happened is where I can tell you
the whole story. You won't restore from
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again. Absolutely. Yeah. Okay. So I was working at a lodge
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in McCarthy, Alaska. Not hard
to find out which one it is.
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I prefer I don't know what to
say. I don't really want to attention
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to draw into the lodge. It
has nothing to do with it. But
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I happen to be working there,
and it was late probably August, maybe
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July, I can't remember. And
a friend of mine works here, and
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he, you know, we were
just burner out because it's lower. It's
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only open first years amount the time, and you got to close it down
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open again next year. So we
were wiped And I said, hey,
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man, I'm going up to the
toe. I don't want to walk.
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I'm gonna grab my truck. You
want to go? And he's like yeah.
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So the toe is the end of
the Root Glacier, and the Root
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Glaciers built our ot and it's the
glacier that happens to be about a mile
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and a half from where I'm sitting. So anyway, we run up there
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and you can hear it melting and
want some while you'll see calves and you
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know, it's cool to watch.
It's ready, and it's cooler because it's
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summertime and you have a wind coming
off the ice. So we were on
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the way out there. It's going
slow and I'm in this old beat up
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Toyota and I you know, both
of us have done this trail a million
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times. So we're going up this
trail and I'm going really slow just in
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case there might be somebody or bears
jump out or whatever, because we're out
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the bush and I'm cruising along and
I come up just to a tiny rise,
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not really a hill. But as
I do, I see this black
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head and it's smoothly crossing in front
of us. Like well, I was
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going to the way it was moving. It was smooth. It was not
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like a bear walks, a moose
walks. Nothing walks. That's smooth.
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And I immediately I had an ice
cream headache, and I said it's a
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big foot. And my buddy wasn't
even paying attention. He's like what I
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stopped and I said, look,
dude, I think that's a big foot,
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and it walked behind the hill,
you know, the slight rise,
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so all we could see was like, I don't know, most of its
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head, and as it floated by, and it looked like it was floating.
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So I get up there with the
truck. I'm like, well,
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we're gonna go find it. So
when I come up over the rise and
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he's not there. Whatever it was
wasn't there, So I told me him,
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don't slam in the car door.
So I pull up into the brush
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a little bit and stop. We
opened the truck doors and I'm always armed
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with a ten millimeter sig and he
happened to have a R fifteen, which
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isn't great for bear, but it
makes a lot of noise. So I
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said, hey, if you go
down about sixty yards and circling in the
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bush, once you go in,
I'll go in and maybe you'll chase it
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to me. Whatever it is.
I thought it was a wounded bear.
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I did not, you know,
last thing on my mind was really his
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asquatch. I'd never seen one.
Don't really care about him, and he
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did. So when he walked in, I started walking in and I walked
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in just past the brush line,
kind of and I stopped in the shadows.
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You know, I wanted my whole
life now. He kind of walked
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in and made all kinds of noise
stumping in there, and he stopped,
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and I heard him kind of make
this weird noise, and he gasped,
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and I looked over at him automatically, and I had already scanned the area
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looking, but I heard him gasp
and I looked over and before my eyes
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could get to his area, I
realized there was a person standing there about
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forty feet away to me. This
thing looked about six foot five. It
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was well built, had the V
shaped body like a you know, like
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a linebacker or whatever. And it
wasn't looking at me. It appeared that
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it was looking, well, it
was not looking. It wasn't facing me.
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It's body basically was facing three quarter
away from me. So I was
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seeing the left shoulder, ear back, you could see the leg, but
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I couldn't see its face. And
it was like almost doing it on purpose,
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is what I got. Right in
that way, wouldn't look at me,
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kind of glanced at me, and
when it did, it's I couldn't
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believe it. The eyeball had a
little bit of yellow like our white eye
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care you would be. But this
thing, you know, it's sunlight.
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My glasses if I have these automatic
darkening glasses and they have darkened down,
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and I look at those things eyes
and the pupils are enormous. I mean,
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it's all pupil and I'm thinking,
how can this thing see in the
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Suddenly, you know, even in
owls eyes closed down quite a lot regular
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in the sunlight. That's not like
they're totally blown out like they do at
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night. And that's that was shocking. And then the next thing that freaked
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me out while I was completely in
shock. And the next thing it freaked
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me out as the way it ran. This thing took off with no gaining
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of speed like you know, a
bear wood or a human. The saint
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took off from zero to sixty It
appeared to be sixty miles an hour instantly,
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and we went about seventy five yards, jumped over some trees that were
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down, and then took off again
like sixty miles an hour, and that
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was it. That was the end
of it. So I walked back to
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the truck and Neil comes back and
he's all excited. He's like, hey,
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I saw a big foot I saw
a big foot and I'm like,
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what you see? And he says, I saw a human shaped arm.
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Exapproach too long, and this thing
was walking or running and he saw the
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arm swinging. Well that's not what
I saw. I saw the whole thing
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and it picks up for its face
and I don't know what gender or whatever
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sharing a female. So anyway,
it didn't really last long. It was
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gone. So we stood by the
truck and talked about it a little.
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We actually drove out to the toe
again, you know, kept going hung
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out and come back, looked around
and went on there. So that was
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that. That was two thousand seventeen. And it didn't keep me out of
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the woods. There was no violent
encounter or whatever. You were scared to
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go back in the woods. It
sounds like you you're pretty no comfortable with
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the woods. Oh hell yeah,
no, I go back in there.
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Yeah I did. Then it's not
like I'm going to see another one.
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Well, you know, fifty five
years old, we're back then anything goes
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fifty. Yeah, fifty is about
right. I've never seen it all my
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life, you know, a chance
of seeing another one or zero? And
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then I saw another one five years
later, right, and it was enormous.
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The first encounter that you had,
did you notice anything you saw the
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back of it? Sounded like,
do you notice anything about the shape of
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the head at all? Anything around
that part of the the big foot.
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All I saw is if well,
my son is it's six foot seven.
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So in my mind, this thing
is a couple's pinches shorter. It's it's
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shoulders are probably the same way,
maybe a little bit more. And it
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was very muscular. As far as
this head. I'm prior military, and
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if you take people in you shave
their heads like they're in the service,
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or even really short hair you can
see the shape of there. Yeah,
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so this thing's hair wasn't that long
on its head. I would say maybe
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two to three inches at the most. And its head was like a human.
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It was a human, you know. In my mind, this was
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a person standing now. And I
had a gun in my hand, so
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I stepped out and I saw the
brown fur, and I've been around Alaska
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a long time, so I immediately
drew my pistol and then I realized what
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I was looking at, and I
thought, in my mind, immediately this
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is a person. So I put
my weapon on He immediately I looked at
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it. I'm guessing the immediate reaction
to pull your pistol would be because you
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see that color, you think it's
bare, something like that or absolutely,
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yeah, yes, everybody where,
I can't say everybody, in my opinion,
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the people that spend a whole lot
of time out in the outdoors here
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in Alaska, they do it armed. Sure, you look at all the
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villagers when they leave their villages,
they're armed. So it's natural to be
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armed here. If you don't,
you're kind of be in bear bait.
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Absolutely, from from things I've seen
about Alaska, you do not. You
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don't get many chances to mess around, for sure. You get made one
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change and messes. So that's right. You make one mistake out here,
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especially when you're alone, like I
go and you're done, it's over.
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So you just gotta be careful.
So anyway, that's so, I know
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you Let me talk about the next
one to five year later thing real quick,
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before we get to that that area
you were in, were there ever
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any stories you heard of other sightings
or was it a pretty unique thing for
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the area that you were in?
Well, I didn't you know. Of
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course, this has started me on
my big soft squatch. Sure adventure of
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the Internet trying to find information.
So you know, beforehand, I didn't
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really care about him. I never
heard about him. You know, I'd
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heard about this thing called the acoustica, but it wasn't a big foot.
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It's the Ottoman exactly. So I'm
inland, you know, right now,
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and I'm about a mile a mile
and a half from where I was,
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and I'm inland one hundred and twenty
miles from the goal or the coast.
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So there's no custic here here,
That's what I'm saying. Gotcha had on
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the coast, and so anyway,
yeah, let's go, there's the answer.
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Yeah. So afterwards, yes,
absolutely, I found out lots of
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things about this area of it.
Five years later, then you had another
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thing happened to you, which is
totally unexpected because you're only expecting maybe one
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in your lifetime. Yes, correct, Yeah, I mean it's not realistic
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to think you're going to see another
one. So anyway, yeah, I
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saw another one last year. And
then the other one is I saw disappearing
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stump in the same area. Interesting, a disappearing stump, Yes, and
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I can explain that one. Yeah. Yeah, so I've had back problems
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and their service related. So I've
had, you know, treatments in my
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back. Unfortunately I left me unable
to walk for a while. So when
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I was able to walk, I
walked all over the place like the doctor
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in the physical therapist set. So
I walked from about where I am down
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to the the tow road, walk
in there, walk all over the place
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on uneven surfaces because that's what the
doctor wanted me to do. And then
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when I was about I couldn't do
it anymore, and I'd walked back home
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back here, and I did that
day after day after day after day.
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It's just physical therapy I have to
do. If I want to walk,
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I have to do it. So
I walk this trail over and over every
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day. And in Alaska this time
of year, it doesn't really get dark.
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It's smart twilight. So I walked
this trail and I'm headed towards the
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tow and I've looked at this same
trail and everything in it a whole bunch
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of times, so everything's basically memorized. And as I walk up, and
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I'm a hunter photographer, so I
can tell you what's not really supposed to
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be in place. If I saw
a place and something changed. I could
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pretty much tell you what it was. My brain will tell me there's something
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change anyway. So I'm walking down
the trail and I'm looking to the right
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for no reason, and I see
this big black stump. Now, the
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toe of the glacier is where the
glacier is receding, meaning nothing can grow
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there quick enough. That would be
a three foot stump or more. That's
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that's impossible. What's the things petrified? And I've walked this very old bunch
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and I've never seen it. So
I stop and I look at it,
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and I light up a cigarette,
and I'm thinking, you know, I'm
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tired anyway, because I'm hurting,
and I look at this stump and I'm
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thinking, well, shout, I'm
gonna go say what is this thing?
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It's weird. It shouldn't be here. And I walked towards it, and
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my feet get tangled in the brush. I look down, you know,
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get them mon tangles and keep going
and I look up and it's gone.
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Oh boy. And one thing I
hadn't told you is while I was watching
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this stone before I walked towards it, it opens its eyes. So on
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the side of the stone its eyes
opened really, and I was shocked.
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I'm like, what the F is
this? So I thought whatever it was,
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it would get up and run away. And that's why I have a
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stand in there and slowly smoking the
cligure. I looked at at this thing
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and it was probably it wasn't far
at all. I don't know how many
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feet it was a way, as
you know, I'm a bow hunter,
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it would be an easy shots of
twenty five thirty yards. So I'm like,
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well, and then it closed its
eyes and it turned it into it.
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You know, you couldn't tell it
wasn't anything else. I'm like,
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well, I'm gonna go find out
what it is. So I got a
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gun on with no big deal.
So I walked towards it, get stuck
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at the brush a little bit.
Look up, it's gone, no sound
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at all. I hadn't rained it
a couple of days, and I'm like,
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well, if I walk in there, it sounds like I'm, you
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know, walking through a bunch of
brushed up peanut shells or something. Boat.
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So I'm like, well, this
is weird. So I walk back
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in there anyway, and I look
around for fifteen to twenty minutes. I
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look up in the trees. I
look at the ground. I'm fairly good
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at tracking, nothing's disturbed. And
I'm thinking, wow, what in the
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world. So I walk back to
the road and with the trail, I
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walk down to the tow do my
thing, and walk home. And as
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I walk home, I use the
same trail and I'm keeping you know,
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I keep looking to my left,
which is where that area was, and
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I see nothing. No big deal. So I go home, and you
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know, next day I get up, I have to go walking. So
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eventually I go walking. In this
day, it's later, so it's probably
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eleven o'clock something like that, and
I go walking because I put it off
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it or its I don't want to
do it, but I do it.
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So I go out there and the
same trail, and I keep looking to
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the right because that's where I saw
the disappearing stump. And I'm walking along
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looking for this stump looking thing,
and I stop because something tells my brain
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while something's out of place. So
I look and I'm studying the area and
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I've hurt really done that at that
point, and I'm scanning the area and
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I'm like, wow, I'm not
gonna spelling much time on it. And
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I'm about to leave and I look
over and behind this spruce tree that's about
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twelve feet high is Oh. It's
like like a traditional big footstanding now,
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except for this was jet black.
Jet black. You couldn't see anything.
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Light coming often, and it was
still a little bit light. It's bluish
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light here. And it didn't move. It didn't I couldn't see its face.
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I didn't know if I was looking
at me or looking the other way.
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I assumed I was looking at me. And it was enormous. It
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was twelve feet tall five five and
a half feet wide, and it's like
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my brain didn't register what it was
until it did, and it was like,
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oh shit. So I raised my
right hand and I said a big
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brother, and I turned and I
walked away and walked down the toe and
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did my thing wow. And eventually
I came back because it's really the only
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way to get home this way.
So I come back, and I freaked
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out. I'm looking behind me and
stuff, but it didn't seem to bother
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it. You know, I got
this feeling that I was watching the trail.
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I think you're a crap about me. So anyway, I walked back
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that area and I'm really worried,
and I keep looking all over the place,
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especially to my left, and I
say nothing, that was the end
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of it. I find it really
interesting the reaction you had when you saw
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it, was, you know,
to raise your hands, say hey,
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big brother. What was it that
you think that that made you do that
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reaction? Was it something you'd heard
previously or is it just it just came
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out of you now? Because uh, in twenty seventeen, you know,
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I went on the rabbit hole for
information about what i'd seen because I didn't
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know what i'd seen during that time. I'd learned that if you get into
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you know fairly close to these things. And in my opinion, since I
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saw on the first time, and
I've listened to the Native tales and learnings,
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they say they're people. So somewhere
I heard, hey, that's proper
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greeting. You should say, oh, big brother, I leave, or
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you should say more to it.
But for me, that was all I
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could do, and that's what I
did. When you were doing research into
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this the years prior, were you
going directly to those that you may have
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known around you, or was this
you know things online or both mostly online?
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I know Native Stone and well throughout
the state, but mostly down by
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the Copper River. Are yet at
the basin and the two people ain't over
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well there. It's a man at
a female, and the man is not
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from Alaska, and the lady is
from western Alaska, so her knowledge would
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be limited to Alaska, of course, but more specified in that area.
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I did talk to the gentleman,
and he did not like talking about it
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in general. He doesn't care,
and he'll tell me areas that he just
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cannot sleep overnight. Because we both
camp a lot. He does more than
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I do, know, but we'd
always be on our rigs camping or you
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know whatever. I always ought to
tell them. And so he told me
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the areas he couldn't sleep, which
I find weird because the guy can you
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know, we're just out doors in
them, and the native he can park
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is Reagan sleep anywhere I don't like
I do. But there are basically three
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places down there that I cannot sleep
him. I've tried, but you can't.
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Are those areas you can mention or
they're just random areas out in the
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bush? Oh I can mention him. I don't really want to get specific
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because I don't want to mess with
the people in the area. Oh yeah,
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definitely not yeah, so, but
you know, one of them,
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I didn't see anything, but I've
heard things. And then the other two
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there's just creepy, dude. I
mean, I can go anywhere, sleep
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anywhere. It doesn't bother me.
There are two places other than my favorite
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place that are just creepy. So
you know, it's a deep, dark
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rainforest. There's absolutely no light because
the foliage grows over and if you usually
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have cloud cover, and if you
get a moonless night, it's like being
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in a cave. Wow. You
mentioned you've heard some interesting things in certain
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areas. Have you ever heard like
vocalizations things like that? Yes, but
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what kind of things? I have
a glad a few of the things.
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The strangest thing is I was done
by this place. I call it the
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Grailing Pond, and it's probably eighteen
miles from the little village and back in
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the off the main road there.
I don't know how many miles. It's
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a little log and trails you follow, and if you don't know, you're
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going to get lost anyway. So
I'm part next to this grailing pond and
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I got one of those solo rangers
going it's a fire pits, and I'm
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sitting on the launch air kind of
thing camp chair on my few go on
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a table that they had laid on, and I'm reading a book and it's
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nice though I don't know that misty. You know, it's a rain for
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us, so it's doable. Anything
used to it. So I'm sitting there
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reading this book and I hear the
you know, owls, they're not uncom
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and but first I hear ratums,
and I'm like, why are ratums out
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to sermon night? So they shut
up and I get back, but went
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back to reading. And then I
heard owls, and the owls they didn't
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sound right. There was too menium. You know, if you're hear an
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owl, it's alone. It may
have somebody else with it, you know,
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another owl, but it's in another
area hunting just like it is.
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You don't hunt together. So I'm
like, well, that's strange. It
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was like three of them, and
I thought that's weird. Maybe it's reading
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season or something. So the hoos
don't seem correct. And then one of
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the one of the who said,
I'm here sitting back reading a book,
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not really caring paying attention, and
this who turned into like the loudest scream
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from a woman you will ever hear
in your life. And it was ridiculously
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long. And I put the book
away and I looked around, because I'm
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on the millinoire. Anything you walk
up at eating, I don't have a
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sense reading around me. And I'm
like, what the hell was that?
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So I sat there for a while
and I thought, well, I'm listen
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to this, and another one doesn't, and another one doesn't, and I'm
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like, wow, And they're not
that far away. They're like, to
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me, they were like on the
backside between me and the sound is a
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grayling pond, an opener, you
know, it's kind of an open area,
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it's tundra, and then it goes
up under the side of the mountain.
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And to me, they sounded like
they were way back up the mountain,
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but they were really loud. I
feel. I thought, well,
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that's weird, and it was a
little freaked out. So I sat there
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and you know, nothing really happened, and then the ravens kicked off again.
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And then and then we heard or
I heard coyotes, and I thought,
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this is really weird. There is
no way this is going on.
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This starve and night there's nothing out
here to draw them. Where I am.
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At the time, there was rivers
through a river. It's small riverside
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the ford to get to where I
was, and they were packed with salmon.
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That's a great time to go camping
because nothing's going to mess with you
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big weeks in anyway. Eventually these
things are screaming based on the coyotes,
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and then I turned into people yelling, and then there's multiple ones going off
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at one time, and then I
hear this one and it is so loud
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it cannot be explained. It shook
my entire body. It fired off with
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this crazy scream like a lady.
It was really really loud, so it's
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I don't even know explain it.
It's this piercing scream like a woman that's
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really in trouble. And then it
turned into shit, kind of a man
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being, you know, murdered,
and then turned into like this animalistic screen
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and it was almost all at wance. It's really hard to explain. So
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I'm out there in the woods and
I'm it's dark as you mean, if
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I showed my light off, I
can't see anything, and I'm like,
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wow, I think it's time to
go. I load my chair into the
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truck, and you know, do
my little make sure everything's picked up all
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the fire puts do out to do
in any too. I'm gonna worry about
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the rain fours. It's not gonna
burn. You're not gonna have a floors
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fire there. So I get in
the truck, and the way my SUVs
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made, I can look backwards with
the doors open, and I have a
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chair back there where I could just
chill out in and read. So I
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was I'm like, well, at
least i'll be in here. So I
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shut the two doors and I had
to window, and I'm like, okay,
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I want to listen to this.
So they kept screaming. They kept
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repeating the same, same, similar
screams up on the mountain or between the
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mountain high and then there were like
two huge ones that seemed to have flanked
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me on each side. And what
they would do is when they would scream,
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it was mostly the one on my
left side. When this thing would
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scream, it was like in competition
with the others, and it screamed so
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loud, and it was you wouldn't
believe it. I mean if you did,
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if I hadn't heard it, I
think, yeah, dude, you're
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sure it was loud. No,
this is like louder than an M sixteen
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report. But they kept going and
going. Finally the one on the right
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started. So I got these two
gigantic things. I can't see ship and
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they're hollering like nothing I've ever heard. Just that's insane. So I'm like,
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well, I think it's tending to
leave again. So I crawl over
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and I'm about to shut the hatch
and just crawl on the front seat.
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I'm not going outside. And then
the one on the left started laughing and
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it was this I can't produce it, but it was this deep, truly
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laugh and it started like oh,
but then it turned into like this demonica
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laughing and it was incredibly loud and
very deep. And then the one on
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the right did it. So I'm
between these two things, and I'm thinking
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I should be terrified, but I'm
not. And I started laughing along with
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these two guys or whatever, and
I said, you know, there's something
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wrong here. I gotta get the
hell out of here. So I listened
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a little longer, and I've been
there maybe forty forty minutes at the most,
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something like that. I don't know
since they started talking all what they
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talked too, and I shut the
hats and I'm like, I can't deal
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with us. I'm going somewhere else. I'm not super freaked out. So
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I crawl on the front and I
drive towards this glacier that's hard to get
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to, and it's behind them,
kind of behind the ridge, the same
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ridge I think they were yelling from, but it's kind of on the back
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side. So I parked there and
I get out, you know, head
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of being so I've blot in the
woods nor you know, there's no woods
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now, it's all open glacier scrub
so I can see. And I get
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out, look around my light,
do my thing and listen, and I
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don't hear anything but the glacier ice
moving behind me, which is absolutely normal.
417
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You know, it's about to set
some of them on the side of
418
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the car or some of them size
your fist. When the wind blows.
419
00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:19.480
They they can we bump into each
other. So I'm thinking, okay,
420
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I'm going to sleep here tonight and
I'll go deal with the fire upit in
421
00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:30.519
the morning. So I and I'm
tired, so I crawled back in my
422
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:37.480
I should be and go to bit
make sure the doors are long, that
423
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:45.000
there's nobody out there. There's no
human beings out there. And sometime during
424
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the night I get I wake up
and I hear this sounded something bouncing off
425
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the top of my I should be
off the ruck. I don't think of
426
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:05.119
what. Oh, and I you
know, because it's a coast coastal area,
427
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coastal Alaska, I'm thinking about seagulls
and you're dropping plans on me,
428
00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:13.880
trying to break them open. And
I realized it's a middle and I thinking
429
00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:19.639
me out. So I listen and
I hear these they're basically small pebbles.
430
00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:23.360
They're getting bounced off the top of
my truck. And I'm not scared,
431
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:31.760
and I actually didn't care. I
heard that if you let them do their
432
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thing, they get bored and leap, but if you interact with them,
433
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you know, they like that.
It doesn't matter if it's good or bad.
434
00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:42.000
They just want to be interacted with. So I left them and I
435
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:45.199
went to sleep, and everything was
fine in the morning, and then in
436
00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:50.000
the morning I drove over it put
them a far too then, you know,
437
00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:58.519
I loved Wow. You mentioned you
heard them talking as well. Yes,
438
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can you describe what kind of of
talking that you heard. All right,
439
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:12.360
So I've been in Laska twelve years
and I worked remote villages, native
440
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:16.920
villages, and you pick, and
I can't think of any other one anyway.
441
00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:21.800
They're real common here, and you
pick language where I used to hang
442
00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:25.360
out and work, that was common, So you pick. It's hard to
443
00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:30.920
you know, it's it almost sounds
Asian, but it's it's it's it's its
444
00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:39.679
own thing. So these big things
were sounding like they wanted to speak in
445
00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:44.840
Upick. They started, but it
was like, yeah, I've never heard
446
00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:49.440
that. It's it's a different cadence. It's super fast, and they sound
447
00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:55.639
really angry. That's the only way
I can explain it. And I only
448
00:38:55.800 --> 00:39:00.760
heard that from two guys. Those
two males. I believe their nails.
449
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:04.239
You know, I didn't see anything. I couldn't. But the two that
450
00:39:04.360 --> 00:39:09.280
were closer to me, the big
laughing designs, right, they were the
451
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ones that I heard speak, and
I think they were talking to each other.
452
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:20.800
Now on that was right before I
last, and I'm like, now,
453
00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:30.119
so anyway I have heard speaking,
it's people or whatever speaking in areas
454
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that it's impossible there's nobody there,
and it's always this huge sounding thing.
455
00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:44.360
Wow. Usually women and children they
laugh and you know, they say the
456
00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:49.639
thing and it sounds like they're picking
berries and they're really happy. But you
457
00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:52.199
know, I know there's nobody there. I can go walk over it.
458
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:55.119
I'd already walked past this place.
It's glacier. It's like a moon out
459
00:39:55.199 --> 00:40:02.719
here in some places, there's nothing
there, so you want fast, you
460
00:40:02.800 --> 00:40:07.360
know, well, sit down.
I'm a photographer, so you're ready to
461
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:12.960
start taking pictures, and I'm like, you hear you could and you know
462
00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:19.000
there's nobody there. There's somebody out
here. Would you ever go back to
463
00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:24.000
that area that you said is Grayling
Lake or oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
464
00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:27.400
yeah, I'll go back. I
plan to go back here probably next
465
00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:36.599
month. And that's in the that's
the Wrangels Saint Elias National Park area is
466
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:38.760
the same area as we were talking
about. Direct. Wow, that's incredible.
467
00:40:39.719 --> 00:40:45.800
So I'm in the Wrangels Saint Elias
National Park right now and I'm indoors
468
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going to raining. I don't want
to go out slop around. But you
469
00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:53.159
know, tomorrow I'll be able to
the same exact place I saw these two
470
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sasquashes. It's not far and that's
I still have to walk. Why and
471
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:05.840
you're headed out there tomorrow. That's
nuts. Wow, that's that's incredible.
472
00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:07.440
I was out there yesterday, Oh
you were. Wow. Well, it's
473
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just yeah, I walk it all
the time. You know. You can
474
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say, well, they get this
weird feeling, and I do a little
475
00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:23.960
bit when I'm out there, but
it's it's completely not I can't explain it.
476
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:29.960
It's not thriving at all. It's
just I don't think they give a
477
00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:32.280
crap about me, and it's just
happened to be in the area. It's
478
00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:36.760
happened to be there. Yeah,
I always walk alone. I'm always alone
479
00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:40.400
out here, and it's not it's
my choice because if I have a dog,
480
00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:44.800
it's loud. I can't get my
wild wife photos. A lot of
481
00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:47.480
people are bored because you have to
sit around quietly, you know, in
482
00:41:47.639 --> 00:41:57.039
Holy blind or whatever. And yeah, let's considered boring people. So what
483
00:41:57.119 --> 00:42:00.559
was your last question? Having no
problem, have you heard anything that would
484
00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:07.519
be similar to anything that sounds like
ape or a monkey or anything weird.
485
00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:15.280
Sometimes people say they hear stuff like
hoots or given things like that. Yeah,
486
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:23.519
I have heard the hoot from a
gigantic given or whatever they call them
487
00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:29.480
the things that screen, you know, a little monkey to make ridiculous sounds.
488
00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:31.639
It did sound kind of like that
a couple of times, you know,
489
00:42:31.639 --> 00:42:35.440
when I've heard the hooting, they
don't might do it over and over.
490
00:42:35.679 --> 00:42:39.599
It's like you'll hear in the background
and you know, it's never meant
491
00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:45.920
anything to me. I don't care. It doesn't. I just don't care.
492
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:47.679
You know, it doesn't register.
It's not a threat nothing. I
493
00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:53.079
mean, I can't take a picture
of it, right. Have you ever
494
00:42:53.079 --> 00:42:58.199
going to eat it? Have you
ever considered taking audio recorder out with you
495
00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:04.199
when you go to these areas?
Funny you may ask, I just go
496
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:09.920
on, I love it. Now'll
be out very much month and I'm actually
497
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:15.400
going to camp out my favorite place
that they happen to win the stream and
498
00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:20.199
we'll see what happens. I don't
think I care about me much as I'm
499
00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:22.440
in the area. To me,
it's like they're having a pot latch.
500
00:43:23.519 --> 00:43:29.039
You know what that is? Remind
me? I think I know the gist
501
00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:32.719
of what you're saying, but I'd
love to hear about it. So a
502
00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:40.280
pot latch or a pow wow to
like maybe a lesser extent. The natives
503
00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:45.440
it's basically a celebration and it can
be for different things. Um, you
504
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:49.960
know, Lord does what they're celebrating. But that's what it reminds me of.
505
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:59.039
Fascinating. They're definitely happen fun.
If you happen to get some interesting
506
00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:04.000
audio, fully reach out. I
would love. I would love to hear
507
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:06.440
it, and I can get you
in touch with some guys that can really
508
00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:09.960
analyze it as well. If if
Yeah, that's what I was looking forward,
509
00:44:12.760 --> 00:44:15.840
you know. And the whole thing
is I can get the great videos.
510
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:19.639
I take pictures, you know what. Friends I can I can record
511
00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:29.519
yaio nothing, you know, it's
just fun for me. It's care of
512
00:44:29.519 --> 00:44:37.280
you play for friends. Thank you
every or distant woods. But you know
513
00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:45.519
my length is I don't care,
you know what I mean, I totally
514
00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:53.079
totally get it. I'm looking over
your email real quick, and um,
515
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:58.119
you had mentioned in the email.
I think it was that the Chug National
516
00:44:58.199 --> 00:45:06.519
Forest. Yeah, is that is
that the Uh that's the area where you
517
00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:13.440
had mentioned before with like the screaming
and the laughing, et cetera. Very
518
00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:19.199
interesting and I've seen some I've seen
some giant footprints down there, really huge.
519
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:23.360
Oh it's ridiculous. I left,
uh, And then I did see
520
00:45:23.400 --> 00:45:28.400
some other tracks down there that I
actually I was a fishing guide and I
521
00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:34.400
want my clients freaking out, so
I squished them all out. You you
522
00:45:34.440 --> 00:45:40.079
would wipe away the tracks so you
wouldn't freak out your clients. Yeah.
523
00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:45.079
Wow, I mean they've played nickel. It's a lot of money to fly
524
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:50.119
out there enough one that's incredible.
I want to fly out there and say,
525
00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:55.599
you know, you look at go
with the all that. You can't
526
00:45:55.639 --> 00:46:00.880
say, I don't know you're in
the bush. They're with you. It's
527
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:05.519
a one on one situation. They're
going to make sure you're there, to
528
00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:07.599
make sure they live through this.
They're gonna have fun, do whatever they
529
00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:13.079
want as long as it's legal.
But you know it's me keeping the bears
530
00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:16.440
off them and showing them were to
fish. Sure it makes sense. That's
531
00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:23.679
really boring sometimes. I mean,
you know, I've got to build somewhere
532
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:30.280
in that forest kind of does it
kind of bump up against the Kenai Peninsula?
533
00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:38.079
No? No, okay, No, when you get chance, google
534
00:46:38.199 --> 00:46:49.440
the Copper River and if you go
down by there's a place I is where
535
00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:54.159
I saw the tracks me or it's
called a Knight Island and it's within the
536
00:46:54.199 --> 00:47:00.559
actual Copper River and Night Island.
That's a weird place is doing now?
537
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:07.440
Yeah? Night Island not ill bringing
into the Copper River basin Google what is
538
00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:15.440
so weird about that area? Oh, that's a report from the locals about
539
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:20.760
something like a circular pool of light
and it shoots up in the air and
540
00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:27.559
it's going really yeah yeah, if
they can't make up yeah, I know.
541
00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:30.000
And then the footprints I saw were
huge, and I'm like, I'm
542
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:34.199
not going looking. I just got
my truck and left. I saw a
543
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:37.239
hum a moongus bear out there.
I don't I assume it was natural.
544
00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:45.039
I've seen plenty of bears one hundreds
and five thousands old. Sixteen, you
545
00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:47.880
know, it seemed sixteen in a
day. That's not the deal. But
546
00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:53.800
this bear, if we were if
we were standing on a pavement and this
547
00:47:53.920 --> 00:48:00.960
thing walked past me, it would
be I'm five twen. It would be
548
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:06.920
as tall as my back or it's
back my head would be. Maybe i'd
549
00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:14.719
be a little shorter. Mhm.
Stuff you don't mess with for sure.
550
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:21.079
And I actually talked to the local
law enforcement guy, you know, the
551
00:48:21.159 --> 00:48:27.679
federal forces, and I told him
my son when I saw it laughter,
552
00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:30.119
and he's like, yeah, they
get really big. He's like, usually
553
00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:34.000
people don't see him from that or
some of the regulations. You win,
554
00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:39.519
That's not what I'm looking for,
man, right, Yeah, I'm like,
555
00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:43.320
is there a third species of fair
out there? That's what I asked
556
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:45.880
him. He's like, no,
they just gets you know, they keep
557
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:54.360
growing if they have food. Wow. Anyway, Joe, incredible accounts.
558
00:48:54.360 --> 00:48:59.519
Thank you so much for spending some
time chatting about this. This has been
559
00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:08.000
Please if you'd by hearing anything else, I'll s to you fantastic And yeah,
560
00:49:08.119 --> 00:49:13.039
I definitely hope to hear from me
in the future. But thank you
561
00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:19.079
so much Joe for chatting tonight.
Are You're welcome here at Bigfoot Society.
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Article is to provide a platform for
those that have encountered Bigfoot to share their
563
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encounter in a safe and respected environment. But we need to hear your story.
564
00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:35.320
If you've experienced something that you just
can't explain, please send me an
565
00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:40.679
email at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot
com. Then we can start the conversation.
566
00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:45.599
And I know a lot of you
have not shared your encounter at all.
567
00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:51.480
It's been twenty years and it's time
that you get this off your chest
568
00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:54.119
and then you can get some well
deserved for rest, because I know you
569
00:49:54.159 --> 00:50:00.320
haven't been sleeping. I understand what
you're going through, and I appreciate every
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one of you listening