Beans Eddy Terror: Bigfoot Hurls Boulder in Midnight Encounter

0:04 I'm doing a night fishing thing. I'm out there. I probably got there about five o'clock that evening. I was playing at a stay till dawn, just catching catfish. I'm sitting there and I just turned off my head lamp checking the line, and everything just went quiet. Anyone who's spending the amount of time outdoors knows that when the night bugs and the birds go quiet, there's predator around either. You're listening to the Big for Society podcast, and I'm Jeremiah Viron. Every week I talk to individuals who have experienced sasquatch in some way or another, so you won't want to miss an episode. Make sure you're subscribed on the platform that you're listening to, and share this episode where the friend does not cost a thing, and it helps the show continue to grow. If you'd like to hear Big for Society episodes early in ad free, you can do so by becoming a Patreon supporter or a YouTube channel member. Links to those are in the show notes in Pay for Society.

1:27 I've taken far too much of your time so far, so let's get on with the show, all right. Big for Society got the privilege of talking to Danny from Wisconsin tonight. How's it going today, Danny? Pretty good. I'm glad to be here. I'm glad that you said yes to coming on and you had hit me up on TikTok and you said you had some interesting things happen up there in Wiscon. I would love if you'd be able to share your story, because it sounds like you might have some other stuff that's happened in your past besides the Wisconsin stuff too. I'll let you take the reins and wherever we need to start is all right. Absolutely, feel free to interrupt me if you have a question I want to clarify. Something doesn't bother me one bit. Sure. The first, let me give some bona fides here. I am from southeast Texas. Originally it's the accent everybody's going to hear that I moved up here eighteen years ago. But I've been an outdoorsman in some way, former fashion, hunting, fishing, camping, you name it, since I was a kid. And because of that, I know the animals in the areas where I frequent. I know what kind of animals are supposed to be there. I even know what animals the DNR has not recorded in those areas because the population isn't there enough to record, if you get my meaning. And there's a place that I go to Neartown

3:01 in Central Wisconsin called Mozanie. It's called Beanzetti. It's basically just this little podunk dirt road that goes down to a boat ramping back into a bunch of farmers, cornfields and whatnot. It's a huge forested area. Once you get away from the houses, it's nothing but forest as far as you can even plan to walk. Now, the night that I was talking about when I messaged you on TikTok was probably the most frightened I have ever been in the woods. I'm a large guy. I'm six' one, I weigh four hundred and eighty pounds. I'm built like a linebacker. I'm disabled now, but I'm a former powerlifter, former athlete. I'm not a guy that gets intimidated easily. And I'm doing a night fishing thing. I'm out there.

3:50 I probably got there about five o'clock that evening. I was playing at a stay till dawn, just catching catfish. And anyone who's ever been to the central Wisconsin area knows that the place is just riddled with granite. Like, there's big granite boulders out where I fish. I use one of them as a seat. They're everywhere. And I'm sitting here fishing. It's probably eleven o'clock at night by this point, and I'm sitting there and I just turned off my head lamp checking the line, and everything just went quiet. Now I could still carry I always have a firearm on me out there, because I know there's codies out there. I've seen cougar prints out there. This is not a place that you want to be unarmed if you get my meal.

4:33 And I was like, okay, here's a predator around. And anyone who's spending the amount of time outdoors knows that when the night bugs and the birds go quiet, there's a predator around. I'd been there long enough they long since lost interest in me. And then I hear this. You ever heard one of the big bear or one of the great cats, like a lion or a tiger, when they just do that chuff sound when they're a little bit irritated. Absolutely, I heard that, and I was like, okay, I know there are black bear here. Generally, don't have to worry about a black bear they don't get very big where I'm at, so not terribly concerned. Yeah, holler, roll loud, they'll usually run off.

5:17 So I just did what most people do, hey bear, and figured, okay, whatever. And I didn't hear anything. I didn't hear brush moving nothing. Next thing I know, I see one of these boulders. This thing was probably the size of my torso. And considering I'm roughly the size of a silver back gorilla, that's a substantial chunk of rock flies out probably twenty five ish feet into this river that I'm fishing on the side of, and hits the water and makes that goes down deep, makes that big splash up where you hear the boom kind of you know sound. And I did some quick calculations in my head and said, whatever managed to pick that up and chunk it, I want no part of because that means it can do it to me with ease. And I will tell you right now when I say I'm disabled, I am caine dependent. I have never in my life packed up my fishing gear, drawn my handgun, packed up my truck and scooed it out of there faster. I'm not even certain I was using my cane to get to the truck. It was, without question, the most frightening thing I've ever been a part of. And while I'm packing up this truck, I hear that sound again, that kind of grunt sound.

6:42 The only animals I've ever heard make that sound is a big grizzly or one of those great cats. Like I was telling you, Yeah, and that's not in those woods. You might run into a black bear very rarely. I've been up here eighteen years. I've seen new stories of where one got spotted in town, but I think there's only been like three of them. So quick question that came to mind. It sounds like what you didn't hear was I'm imagining Devil's advocate. A huge rock rolls down the side of a hill, and you're gonna hear other things getting hit as it's rolling. You didn't hear that. You just all of a sudden, a rock just gets chucked out of nowhere. That's what you're saying. Oh, I saw the rock get chunked. This was not coming down a hill. This was airborne.

7:34 I watched the arc. It probably got launched from i'd say less than thirty feet from where I was sitting now the way that where I fish beanzetti is the way it. As you come down this little dirt road, it opens up into this big gravel parking lot. There's a boat ramp on one side of the parking lot, and there's this little path that comes down to a small little barren spot right down the water's edge, and then there's this above that, there's this rise that goes along this path. It goes back into the woods that hunters and ATV enthusiasts go out and use. There is no hill for this to run down. It's a other than the little spot that I'm at. It's a pretty sure drop off from that ledge to the water's edge. There's no hill for this rock to have rolled down on.

8:24 There's no ramp for it to have gotten airborne. I watched this thing fly twenty five feet. Granite is very dense, it's very heavy. There's a reason it's used to make buildings and countertops and things like that. It's durable. It's sturdy stuff. So for a rock, a boulder, let's call it what it is. It's a boulder the size of my torso it would have to weigh seven to eight hundred pounds on the low end, and this thing went airborne. Now, the only thing that comes to mind is for that kind of air, for that kind of air tank time to be achieved, you would need someone as a being that is capable of being bipedal and having opposable thumbs to grip. Now, a mountain gorilla, so commonly called a silver bat gorilla, can relatively easily flip a car. Now, these creatures that we call bigfoot sasquatch gigantopithecus, if you want to go that route, are reportedly much much bigger than their gorilla cousins, if they are indeed related, as a lot of people that are believe in bigfoot think they are.

9:46 With that comes an extraordinary proportion of extra strength. So that tells me that it would have needed to have been a bipedal creature capable of easily lifting close to one thousand pounds and throwing it like ball over twenty five feet, because I'm assuming he wasn't standing on the water's edge when it got chucked. So to have that happen, Let's just put it this way. I don't go night fishing anymore. There I might be there, I might be there after dark, but ten thirty is about my cutoff. He got grumpy with me about eleven. I figured that's my curfew. I'm done now. After this happened, did you try to do any research about this area to see if anyone else had experienced weird things as well? Or I've looked, and there's a lot of reports in this area of dog men type creatures, bigfoot type creatures. I take a lot of them with a grain of salts because a lot of them, as you probably know better than I do, a lot of them come from reports people seeing in passing a creature that they couldn't identify, that don't know the area, don't know the woods, don't know the animals in that area, don't have any training in observation or investigative skills, so there's really not much you can take at face value from those.

11:22 But there are a lot of reports, and the ones that I did find it shows that, given the large expanse of woods, that there's things there that we don't know. You could get lost in there and no one would ever find you. You've got a town and with an air with a small airport ten minutes drive from this place from where it's from. Beans Eddy and beyond that, it's a thirty minute trip to the next town on the freeway, So we're talking thirty or forty miles of just and there's a pretty big wildlife area south of there. Right, Yeah, there's a couple that there's a couple here in the States where I was fishing at. It's on a place called the Eau Claire Flowage, which is part of the Wisconsin River.

12:11 It's a really large waterway that covers a significant portion of the state. So unfortunately that doesn't really narrow anything down. But this area is well trafficked. I've gone there before. At that it means that I fished there for years, and I've seen thirty or forty cars parked there with boats where I had this incident at This is not an area that's out in the Boone Docks by any stretch of the imagination. It's the edge of the Boone Docks, is what it is. It's just I'm trying to think of something else this could be, and I'm just coming up with a blank because it's it's so large an item. I don't think even a human could have thrown it out.

12:58 No, there's no way. I actually follow several strong men because my athlete I was a powerlifter. Okay, so I do to this day follow strong men half Thor buornsen Eddie Hall. Giant men like these are people who have won the World's Strongest Man title, and they could not grab a stone of this size. They might be able to lift it, in fact, they often do as part of these strongman competitions, but they couldn't have gotten twenty five foot of distance upwards of fifteen feet in the air of Hangkong. The strongest men in the world could not have done it. Now, I don't know how old you are, Jeremiah, do you mind me asking? I'm old enough now. I just turned forty. I turned forty two tomorrow.

13:50 You're in good company there. The area in Texas that I'm from is close to a town called Silsby. Sillsby is where a man named Mark Henry grew up. He was on WW for a lot of time. For a long time, he was also one of the world's strongest men. My family knew him. Okay. I never had the pleasure of meeting the man. One of my aunts actually used to babysit for him. Oh wow, So like I've been around these powerful people, physically powerful. That is all my life, and not just in person, but following on social media and things like that, and knowing what they're capable of and knowing there is no way even a group of them together could have achieved what I experienced that night. Definitely.

14:46 Yeah, I don't. I don't blame you not being out there, lady. So you're saying that when you were in Texas, you were down in the Sillsby area, Yeah, I'm Actually I was born in a town outside of he Houston, moved to Beaumont, which is about thirty minutes from the Gulf of Mexico, thirty minutes from Louisiana right there on it, which is about a half hour drive from Silsby, and my stepdad growing up his family was all from Silsby, and that's where I grew up. It was basically right there in the big thicket. Absolutely. And I've had an experience when I was a child, I think I was probably thirteen where I was out walking the woods, spinning out squirrels and raccoons. We had a little twenty two's and I've had a cougar up in a tree behind me. My buddy saw it and pegged it in the hind quarters, probably the only thing that saved me, because if you know anything about cougars, if they're a tree and behind you, they're planning on having you as a snack. No.

15:46 Yeah, even hearing that cat scream after getting pegged in its back end by my buddy's twenty two did not scare me as much as that night in beans Eddie and I was a child, then, yeah, you don't mess around with it with cougars for sure, to just jump on you and snap your neck is what they usually try to do. Yeah, exactly, and say, it's not the cougar that you got to be worried about, because if you see them, they wanted you to see them. For a three hundred pound cat, they're extraordinarily stealthy. It's the ones you don't see that you got to be concerned about, which is why I carry a gun on me anytime I go out there. Because according to the DNR, which if people don't know, is Wisconsin's Department of Natural Resources, there are no cougars in central Wisconsin. That's the official stance of the DNR. I have personally seen cat prints. I've owned cats all my life. I know what a cat print looks like in the mud out there, the size of a dinner plate. Oh wow, Now, I understand displacement in mud is going to make it look much bigger than it actually is. But even if you account for that's still a very big cat. Yeah, that's nothing to mess with, for sure. I would definitely be keeping my eyes open if I was in that area of Wisconsin, for sure. I am very curious about southeast

17:22 Texas, the area you were referring to for listeners to know what Danny is referring to this area down there that You've got Sam Houston National Forest, You've got Angelina National Forests, which was referenced when Matt from Bigfoot Crossroads was on. You've got all sorts of Bigfoot action down there in that area. Is also referenced in the Texas dog Man Triangle documentary by Small Town Monsters as some really weird stuff that has happened in that area regarding dog Man, Danny, have you ever experienced anything down there in that area yourself or heard of any stories in that area in Texas. I've heard stories, but it's always been second third hand. I've never personally experienced anything myself. But when I was down there, I was always camping with a group of people. I was very ever rarely solo. So I'm usually interacting with them and admittedly young dumb kid not paying attention to what's around me. But as I've gotten older, as I've gotten more experienced, and I'm going out by myself in a lot of cases, I don't have a choice but to keep my head on a swivel. There's even just coyote like they're the size of a dog. Individually, they're not a huge threat, but they don't come individually. Do they know? They don't? They do? And so I have to be cognizant

18:55 of those things because I've got a family to get home too, and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna mess with that. Like I've seen other things out at bean z Eddi in the woods around that area, I will tell you this, that is not a place that you want to be alone without help and without resources. There's ravines out there that you fall down into. It's too steep to get back up unless you're eight feet tall with four foot long legs, right exactly. But what other things have you noticed out there and bean Setti that have caused you alarm. A lot of times where again the whole whole woods go silent. A lot of times where I hear something large in the underbrush which is relatively thick and relatively thorny. There's a lot of really thorny plants. I think it's acacia, is what it is. They got like an inch and a half two inch long thorns. It's not something you want to fall into, if you know what I mean. I've had a time where I'm driving because the road that leads to the boat ramp, their road goes back beyond that and goes way deep into those woods and farther than my truck can go. I drive a two well drive truck. I am not taking that out there. They got ruts two or three feet deep.

20:22 I'm not getting my truck stuck. But I've taken my friends out that were planning a hike back to the back of the place and go camping for a few days. And they were using my truck to get out there. They're unloading stuff, hiking it to the camp spot, come back, grab another load, and go. So I'm just standing outside the truck smoking a cigarette and I look over and I see something looking at me from the tree line, and it's above me. I'm six foot one. There's not much it gets to look down at me. Could it have been a raccoon sitting up on a tree branch? Yeah, raccoons don't have six inches between each eye. That's what I was just gonna ask you. One of those friends, And this goes back to the reliable witness kind of thing. He's also a hunter and outdoorsman. He's also in the military, which means he's trained in observation and to investigation just as a natural part of his career as a military and individual, He's seen things out there that I can't help but trust, simply due to the nature of who he is. He said he saw a cat what looked to be a cat walking on behind its hind legs.

21:32 The only thing I can think is was it a cat or was it a young dog? Man? Okay, thinking dog vaguely humanoid physique, maybe a teenager. Teenagers are gangly creatures, and it doesn't matter what species. Look at the rest of the animal world. You get a teenager of pretty much any species. They're usually pretty gangly. So maybe it was a young one there. I've heard howls out there that no human throat could make. And this was before wolves had been reintroduced to Wisconsin. I know what a coyote sounds like. I hear them all the time. I call them song dogs. I love listening to them. But I've heard howls out there that would stand every hair on the back of your neck straight up. I'm actually sitting here. I don't know if you can hear it in my voice, but I'm actually shaking thinking about this stuff. Oh I can tell I can't tell it d chain smoking. I'm chain smoking, which I don't normally do.

22:32 So Yeah, it's it's very unnerving to actually sit down and lay this out in a serious manner, because usually when I talk about it, I'm joking, joke about it. Just it's coping mechanism, I'll admit it. But I'm not the type to believe in the whole werewolf thing. Sure, the physiology of it, the whole shifting forms thing, I can't speak to. That doesn't makes sense in my head. But do I think that there's perhaps a variant on the that has more of the digital grade legs that like a dog has, that has more wolfish features instead of primate features. I can't discount that. I can't that discount that as a possibility, just like I can't discount Bigfoot as a possibility, right because just looking at statistics, Okay, do you happen to know how many bigfoot type sightings there are a year in the United States alone? Oh? There's a lot. It's last I saw it somewhere the neighborhood of fifty thousand. Oh yeah. If we take just half of those and immediately discount them as hoaxes or misidentifications, which I think is a fairly reasonable conservative number to go with, that still leads twenty five thousand to go huh. Now, if we take that remaining twenty five thousand, then split it in half again, I think relatively conservative number here,

24:03 and discount unreliable wness they only saw it for a moment, or they didn't get a good enough look at it to really know what they were looking at, or they were truists to the area and don't know the animals in that area, that kind of thing, and immediately eliminate those again, that still leaves twelve thousand, five hundred conservatively sightings every single year from reliable, knowledgeable, trained an observation or investigation sightings that we can't just discount. It's wild to think about. The argument is something that I've brought up a few times in personal conversations. It's people just don't realize how many reports are out there every year. Do you hear a lot of dog man type reports from that area? In this area? Yeah, in this state alone, absolutely.

25:04 I know we have the Beast of Bray Road, right, but yeah, very famously, I believe her name is Linda Godfrey. Yes, has made that very public. But it goes beyond that, It goes way beyond that. That is one very small stretch of road. I don't know if you've ever actually looked to the size of Bray Road. It's not very big. No, it's not. Okay, I think it's a quarter maybe three quarters of a mile long. It's not a huge stretch of road. But every sighting in that area seems to go seems to get counted. Oh, it's the Beast Bray Road. It's the Beast of Bray Road. No, what it is dog men. And there are dog men sightings that go back thousands of years. Because if you go to Native American legends, First Nations, people who have been here longer than anyone that looks like us, as they tell stories of these creatures, dog men, sasquatch, and depending on who you talk to in that vein, these creatures can be simply flesh and blood like we are. Sometimes they're spiritual creatures. Sometimes they're a mix of both. And if there's one thing that I know, and I don't claim to be an expert by any stretch on Native American mythology or anything of the sort, one thing I do know is that these are not a people that

26:34 are prone to fancy. They're not a people that is prone to exaggeration and embellishment of their stories and legends. And that gives me pause, That makes me stop and think there's probably a little more to this than I want to give credit for. Because when you really stop and think about the amount of unpopulated, undeveloped land there is just in North America, Canada, Alaska, continental United States, and how much could actually be there, it's absolutely terrifying.

27:14 M Oh, absolutely, us out doorsman's you know, us out doorsmen, we're absolutely bonkers. Once we have that realization to still go out there and do what we enjoy, we have to be some level of disturbed to be willing to go out and do that, especially in my case and people like me who were disabled and refused to let that limit us from doing what we enjoy. Okay, because a physically fit hunter who has no physical handicaps, they could just tuck and run. I can't do that. So for me to understand these understanding and have these kind of epiphanies about what could be out there, I have to think I come to no other conclusion than I'm just a little bit touched in the head to still go out there. It definitely makes for an interesting situation for sure. Danny. Over the years, it sounds like you've definitely heard some things. Do you recall Can you recall any specific stories that you've heard over the years of maybe dog man encounters in the state of Wisconsin. There's one story from a friend of mine, we'll call her Nicks. She lived up in the Eagle River, which is about an hour and a half north of where I am, and she lived out

28:45 there on her grandmother's land. I was doing the homesteading thing, trying to do that, and for the first couple of years she was living in an RV that she had moved out at a little fifth wheeler. She pooled behind her vehicle, and there were times that you would tell me, yeah, no, I went stayed at Grandma's house for a few days because she saw something through her window that was too tall to be a bear unless that bear can walk for an extended period of time on its back legs, which they can't, and was looking in through her windows on her fifth wheel. She doesn't like talking about it, she doesn't like thinking about it, but it has led after a couple of years of trying to do the homestead, saying to her uprooting and moving back closer to the city, she wouldn't stay there anymore. These things are I'm going to sound a little bit like one of the conspiracy kooks here for a second, but these things are out there, and sadly, it's going to take an outdoorsman to prove it. Because the scientists want a body on a slab to codify and identify and figure out where it fits in the genetic family tree, as it were. That's not going to happen with a camera crew out in the woods hooping and hollering and talking in normal tones. Every animal in a mile radius knows they're there. You're

30:15 not going to get it. With a camera crew for these shows that you sing that we're all over Discovery and Travel Channel for years, You're not going to get that. It's going to take an outdoorsman who sees something in his deer standard as deer blind and goes, I have to take this shot. Now Here comes the ethical problems with that, because if this thing is as genetically close or closer to humans than saying chimpanzee or gorilla is, then what level of intelligence did they have? What level of sapiens do they have? Did that hunter just eliminate a thinking, reasoning, otional being to prove the existence of its species or just an animal? And I think that's a question that can't be answered. And until you get that specimen, which exactly, Yeah, that's where it gets tricky. The other problem is there's a huge hunting culture here in the Midwest. I believe I heard a report one time that between Minnesota, Michigan, and Wisconsin alone there are more firearms and civilian hands than in the United States military. So you throw Iowa into that too, and you really got a party going exactly. You toss Texas into the mix. And boy, that's a whole different animal. That's a small country's worth of firearms out there, and the amount of hunting accidents that happened just

31:51 due to the number of hunters that are out here every year is staggering. And it makes every hunter with a function any brain cell in their skull, which if they're in the woods with a firearm, I hope there's one. I hope there's a few, preferably a full brain. They got to wonder, is this some idiot hunter walking around here in a gilly suit instead of having his blaze orange on, And it's gonna make hunters as it should, pause and verify that shot before they take it. I will tell you this as a hunter. If I'm in my dear blind and I see that, I'm gonna mind my business because I don't want to be the one to put that specimen on the slab only to find out, oh, that was a person who was being stupid and was out here trying to pull a hoax, or was out here in a gilly suit trying to get an unfair advantage on a hunt and put themselves at risk. There's been so many different times that I've heard where it's the hunter. They get the creature in their sights, especially out in southeast Oklahoma, and they just they can't pull the trigger because they can't one hundred percent tell that it's not actually a human, and they don't want to actually be the one that murders some human creature by accident.

33:16 It's just once you get it in the sites, it's hard to know what you're dealing with. It is, and one of the first rules of using a firearm is to know what you're shooting and what's beyond it. So if you can't one hundred percent identify what you are about to unload a very powerful rifle round into, it's not worth it. I hope I'm never put in that position. I hope I'm never put into a position where I have to defend myself and take that shot, because I've heard stories, probably you have too, of these things being very aggressive. I'm talking knocking over campers, breaking windows, things like that, actually attacking people. Oh absolutely, And I've heard trailers being knocked off the blocks in northern Maine. I don't know if you hear similar things up there in Wisconsin, in upper north upper Midwest where you're at, But yeah, they can get very aggressive and slap a house so hard that everything falls off the shelves on the inside. Crazy stuff.

34:25 Yeah, and it's not something I ever want to experience. Now, would I be interested to know that, yes, these things have been identified and codified. They're real. It's no longer a bunch of hicks out in the woods who think they saw something because they were drinking Poppy Pappy's old moonshine. It's not going to be that anymore. But I'm gonna tell you right now, I don't want to be the one to do it, because if I have any say about it, I'm never going to be around one of these creatures again. That encounter was enough for me. I don't go on that back road anymore that leads to the back came to Beanzetti, not even to the little corner where I drop my friends off. I don't go back there anymore. I go to the parking lot where the boat ramp is, or where that little trail going down to the side of the water is where I fish at. That's as far as I go. Yeah, I just have a feeling someone is listening to this and they're going to be like, yeah, I've had a similar thing or I had this happen. They're going to put something in the comments or send me an email. And I just got a feeling, Danny, that you are not the only one that has experienced some weird stuff in that area. For sure. I can't be just again, it goes back to statistic. Statistically, I can't be h Like I said, this is a fairly popular area. People go out there all the time, whether it's fishing from the land or out there fishing on boats.

35:47 Somebody has seen something. Somebody has seen more than what I've seen. I've been out there before. When I get out there fishing, there's a couple of old timers, people that Vietnams like. These are hard men. These are men who have looked death in the face and giggled that when dark comes around down at beans Eddie, they pack up. I'm a Southern boy. I like my catfish bite the most at night, so I'm not leaving it dark, but I don't stay late. Danny. It's a very interesting story, a really interesting encounter that you had. I have a feeling that it's to start to something. They're like little storylines that'll happen, but they're real. They are things that people have actually experienced. But an interview like this can start a whole bunch of Wisconsin interviews. I would be really curious if people have experienced stuff similar to this or in the same area. Please reach out so we can get what you've experienced out to the public as well and help others. But Danny, it's been a pleasure chatting with you tonight for sure. Thank you for having me. I really appreciate it. I've never had an outlet other than chatting with my friends joking around making them giggle.

37:13 But I've never sat down and really told anybody this in a serious, factual manner, and so I appreciate the chance to do. If you ever run into anything else interesting up there, please feel free to reach out. I would love to hear anything else that you hear from up there in Wisconsin. Thank you so much for chatting. Not a problem at all. If I see anything, If I experience anything else, I will reach out. I have your email and I'm fallly on TikTok so I can get in touch. Great sir, Thank you, you have a great rest of your night, and thank you so much for reaching out. Danny, you have a great night as well, and thank you again. And I hope to hear from you. If you get anybody that's seen something similar, I'd love to know myself. Oh, I'll definitely be reaching out for sure. All.

38:06 Thank you very much, Jeremiah, you have a great night, Man you as well. Thank you. Here at Bigfoot Society, our goal is to provide a platform for those that have encountered Bigfoot to share their encounter and a safe and respected environment. But we need to hear your story. If you've experienced something that you just can't explain, please send me an email at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. Then we can start the conversation. And I know a lot of you have not shared your encounter at all. It's been twenty years and it's time that you get this off your chest and then you can get some well deserved for rest, because I know you haven't been sleeping.

38:50 I understand what you're going through and I appreciate every one of you listening