"Big Red Eye's Curse: Terrified by Bigfoot in New Jersey"

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Over the course of the next fifteen
minutes, four more of these fifth sized

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rocks come crashing, landing down five
to ten feet from us. My body

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got an idea, I'm gonna throw
a rock back at it. It was

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a bad idea. He took one
of the rocks and he chucked it back

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in that direction. We knew it
wasn't a person because a fifteen pound laptop

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sized boulder came crashing down land at
five feet from us. Either you're listening

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page for Society. I've taken far
too much of your time so far,

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so let's get on with the show, all right, Big Society've got the

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privilege of talking to Mike Famelot from
In the Shadow a Big Red Eye.

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How's it going, Mike, Hey, thank you so much for having me.

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This is awesome. Yeah. In
the Shadow a Bigger I we're a

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YouTube show. We go around the
country and we look for bigfoot. It's

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pretty awesome. Absolutely. Man,
It's been a while since I talked to

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you. I had interviewed Mike.
You were like one of the first original

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interviews that I had, So yeah, the og starting to ogs, but

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Zoom destroyed it. It's lost forever. You were one of the first ten

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people I talked to and it was
a wild one and at the end Zoom

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was like, Nope, it's not
going to happen. You have to wait

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a few more years. Well,
finally got around to chatting with you.

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But man, you have really been
up to some wild stuff. You are

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going all over the place and I'm
just excited to talk to you. What's

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the elevator pitch that you give people
for In the Shadow of a Big Red

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Eye? Besides being a rock and
YouTube channel all about bigfoot research, It's

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like the true, uncut, real, non edited version of some of the

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shows that are on TV right now, except it's what big footing is really

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about. Some of the shows on
TV, and people that spend any time

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time in the woods looking for Bigfoot
realize that the shows on TV don't accurately

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depict the way bigfooting is actually is
done. So I was like, I

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am going to make a show that's
not based off of ratings. I don't

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care if anybody doesn't like the show. It's just a hobby for me.

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And I started doing that in twenty
sixteen, making a show and now yeah,

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two point seven thousand subscribers. It's
crazy. There's something for everyone on

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the channel. You go everywhere,
from New Jersey of course, down to

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Florida. You are going all over, at least definitely the eastern side of

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the US. I would say I
have not been west of the Mississippi yet

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looking for Bigfoot, but I'm hoping
to change that next year for the Mike

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Femlant Library Tour Searching America Tour twenty
four I'm telling you I'm west of the

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Mississippi and I'm telling you Bigfoot is
out here. So you got to get

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out here. You got to hit
up some Oklahoma, you gotta hit up.

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Oh man, some Iowa was stuff, some Missouri. Oh man,

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it's going to get wild for you. But let's rewind a little bit.

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Mike, what's your origin story with
what got you involved with all the Bigfoot

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craziness to begin with? Yees,
it's a kind of funny story. I

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was living in Florida. I was
working at a beach resort in Sarasota,

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Florida, which was like the best
job that I've ever had before my entire

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life. And I was watching Finding
Bigfoot on TV. It was on in

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the background. I didn't have any
real a parent liking to the show or

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whatever. It was just on.
And at the end they were like,

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Hey, if you want to come
out with us, you could pay this

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ridiculous amount of fee and sign your
life away and you can come out on

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an expedition with these guys. And
I'm like, there is no way I

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am not doing that. That sounds
like it's incredible. So I signed up

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that night. I was engaged at
the time. Did not tell the fiance

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what we were doing. Going to
be like a little pre wedding, little

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surprise thing. Wow, And anyways, this is my first time ever camping.

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I was an inside child. Growing
up, I was never outside TVs

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video games. That was my thing. So this was my first time ever

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camping. I had to acquire some
camping gear, my tent, my sleeping

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bag, literally everything. So I'm
getting the stuff prior to this expedition,

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and I'm hiding it in the closet. So my fiance didn't see this.

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Finally, she's cleaning one day,
which she never cleaned, so I was

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shocked that you found it. But
she found it and she was like,

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Mike, what are we doing.
I said, hon, we are going

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to go look for a big foot
in North Florida. And then we broke

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up. There was that, but
anyways, get up to North Florida.

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I invite a buddy, any EMT
friend of mine. I'm an EMT or

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I used to be an EMT and
I invited a friend of mine and we

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went up there on this BFRO expedition. Nothing happened. We talked to witnesses,

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we did the night hikes. We've
actually found to Florida panther footprint.

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Which is really cool is at the
time there's only like twenty five and left

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in the wild. This is back
in twenty eleven, and yeah, so

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nothing happened except the last night,
and it was about three o'clock in the

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morning and me and my buddy Jimmy, we are sitting next to our campfire

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and we hear a tree dock.
I didn't think anything of it. I

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said, oh, that could be
anything. About two minutes later, a

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tree dock from the complete opposite direction. So I immediately think that it was

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the expedition organizers that are in the
woods knocking on trees. Because we paid

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a lot of money, didn't have
any big Foot activity, so this has

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got to be what's going on and
hoaxing us. Obviously, nothing happens.

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About ten minutes goes by and you
hear come crashing down through the trees a

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fist sized rock. And it was
at this point in my life where I

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said, nope, this is how
horror movies start. I am out of

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here right my buddies. I want
to sweep in the car. And by

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the time he said that, I
was just in the car. And finally

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he talked some sense into Me's Mike, Bigfoot's knock on trees, they throw

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rocks. This could be a squatchy
activity that we're having. So I was

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like, I suppose so all right, so he talked me back out by

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the campfire. Over the course of
the next fifteen minutes, four more of

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these fifth sized rocks come crashing,
landing down five to ten feet from us.

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So that's horrifying as it is,
right, So, I'm petrified this

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is going to be a sleepless night. We already are aware of that.

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And my buddy, he's I got
an idea, I'm gonna throw a rock

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back at it. So he it
was a bad idea, yeah, So

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he took one of the rocks and
he chucked it back in that direction right,

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and we knew it wasn't a person
because a fifteen pound laptop sized boulder

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came crashing down land at five feet
from us. And then that was it.

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That was done. Nothing else happened
that night. The next day we

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asked our neighbors, because there was
a lot of other people at the expedition.

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We were like, hey, did
you guys hear or see anything.

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Nobody heard or saw anything. So
then we did some measurements because we wanted

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to be all scientific and stuff,
because that's what saw'm do on TV.

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We did a measurement of how close
this thing could have been. That was

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throwing the rocks. Because of the
terrain and the topography and stuff, the

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closest this thing could have been was
seventy five yards away. Unless Nolan Ryan's

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chucking rocks in the middle of the
Florida Panhandle at four o'clock in the morning,

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I don't know. How did you
go to sleep after that? Well,

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you got to think about it.
What can throw rocks? A person,

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primates or Bigfoot? Those are the
only three things, right. If

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there was a population of primates living
in North Florida, I think we would

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know about it. They're not going
to be like Bigfoot stealthy. We would

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know that they were up there.
We actually, in fact, do you

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know that there's plant primates living in
Florida? But you could rule out a

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person because it was just so heavy. I couldn't chuck it ten feet rather

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than coming crashing down through the woods. That takes substantial power. That kind

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of gets it on your radar.
Was it after that GameLine you're going out,

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you're making this video or is there
a little downtime before the YouTube series

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actually started kicking off. Yeah,
the YouTube series actually took five years to

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get into making. So after this
expedition. We are totally into it now.

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We are everything, Jimmy and I
everything about bigfoot we can get our

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hands on. We're we're talking to
researchers, witnesses, finding hot spots,

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everything we could do because we think
this is so cool. And about three

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weeks goes by, we go out
and we call ourselves experts now because it's

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been three weeks and we know everything. So we're gonna go We're gonna go

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out so low doing our own thing. One night expedition, I'm doing bigfoot

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calls like it's my job. I'm
doing them every two seconds, right,

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because that's what I see him do
on TV. So I'm just imitating what

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I see him do on TV.
Right. So I'm doing these bigfoot calls,

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and Jimmy he's he's got his ten
million lumen spotlight that he's got shined

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around, right. The light shines
upon two pairs of eyes. One pair

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was a reflecting red color and the
other was like a reflecting aqua blue color,

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and they were just looking back at
us. And we thought, in

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our inefittent wisdom of everybody and everything
in the woods, we thought that it

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was people. We didn't realize people
don't have eyeshine, we can't see at

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night, right, since we were
all so new with this, but anyways,

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we start yelling, hey, we're
just out looking for Bigfoot. Sorry,

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we'll go back to camp type of
thing, and just the eyes are

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just staring back at us. At
these things, these suckers are about seven

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and a half feet off the ground. So we're like, okay, this

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is We still think it's a person. We think they're actually a hunting out

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there because it's a big hunting area
so and it was poaching at night.

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But anyways, so the eyes are
just staring back the one set, the

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red set, turns, looks at
the other set, turns and looks back

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at us and then blinks. Another
nope moment out of there. But we

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did go back the next day and
we found the eyes were at about seven

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and a half feet. We did
a recreation like we saw him do on

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TV and everything like that. So
those were just the two first times that

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I went out looking for Bigfoot,
and we had some really incredible activity and

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that's what I think got me so
into it so hardcore if you will so

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quickly, Oh, I can definitely
see it. If that level had happened

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to me right off the bat.
It would have the same effect some wood

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knocks tree pushed over on my first
time out in Iowa with Takee. When

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does Red Eye become involved? Okay, perfect, perfect segue. Twenty sixteen.

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I get a little homesick. I'm
living in Florida, still a little

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homesick of New Jersey. Shocking.
I know that's crazy to get homesick over

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New Jersey, but it happens people
anyways. So I moved back home and

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I was like, man, my
big footing career is over. There's no

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bigfoot New Jersey. Little did I
know. Starting to do research and I

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quickly established that a Facebook group called
Susset's County Bigfoot and networked with a lot

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of really interesting people. I met
a lot of really cool people, and

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shortly thereafter I decided, I'm going
to make a show. And it's called

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in the Shadow of Big Red Eye. And I called it that because in

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nineteen seventy two, a state park
ranger up here in High Point State Park

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in northwestern New Jersey. He was
on patrol during the night. He was

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on foot patrol, walking one of
the trails at night, and he came

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across two pairs of reflecting red eyes, very similar what happened to us in

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Florida. Right. He put that
on his report and somehow the newspaper got

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a hold of it, and the
next day big red Eye was front page

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in the newspaper. That's little.
Sussets County is a little Bigfoot claim to

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fame there, And it looks like
from looking over your channel, you've done

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more than a few investigations in that
area of New Jersey. Correct. Yeah,

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yeah, it's a high Point.
State Park is about forty five minutes

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from me, and we just have
so many good squatching areas in northwestern New

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Jersey and in New Jersey itself.
People don't realize this is your acreage that

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we have for something large to be
able to be supported and stuff like that.

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So it's staggering when you think of
Bigfoot in New Jersey. People think

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you're crazy, but it's really cool. I'm a very big fan of the

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bear and bigfoot. They eat similar
things to apex. Predators living in the

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same area probably eat the same things. Right, We actually have in Sussets

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County the highest density of black bear
population east of the Mississippi. So I

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think if there would be anywhere that
bigfoot would be able to be supported.

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It's somewhere where it has the food
that can support these large predator preachers.

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Right New Jersey definitely can support a
large animal like that. Absolutely. When

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you are going out to these certain
spots in Sussex, have you had any

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interesting encounters. We've gotten some of
the best best pieces of evidence that I've

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ever collected from Sussex County. And
that's probably just to say, because I

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go out there all the time.
I'm I was just going to get more

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evidence from there. But we've collected
a footprint back in twenty and sixteen,

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fifteen and a half incher that I've
posted everywhere that I could possibly find,

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track identification pages, everything like this, and people just say that it can't

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be real, but I found it. We've gotten some vocalizations from High Point

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State Park. There's a gas line
that runs through through the north end of

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the county here, and I think
that's a big foot highway. I think

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bigfoots would follow these gas lines and
power lines of things. But we were

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on this gas line. We did
a barred owl CAOL, which is an

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owl that lives around here, and
about five seconds later we got like this

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vocalization, three distinct loud howls.
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I release anything, so I would
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of audio off to a linguist from
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the side, and he came back
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and Z, this is outside a
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Have you ever heard any whoops type
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or the most recent one we had
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beomosine Vermont, in the next to
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up to this one lake and we
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in the morning, and it sounded
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We did a whoop and it just
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It wasn't an echo, And it
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are literally two miles from the closest
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things that make you go and make
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out what's making those sounds. Going
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bit. A few months back.
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His name is swamp Dog. He's
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a guy who is seriously researching in
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are some really interesting things going down. I don't know if you're familiar with

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the Vineland, New Jersey area in
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into the south part of New Jersey
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because you have the one point one
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that's that's right outside of right in
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and that's obviously known for the Jersey
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Pine Baron is known for the Jersey
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found baby Bigfoot tracks down there,
so that was very interesting. We actually

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found him on three separate occasions through
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this YouTuber, very popular YouTuber who
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a fifty state CRYPTI thing and I
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and I'm like, okay. So
we went down there looking for the Jersey

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Devil, and he actually obtained some
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to Jersey Devil said to eat goats. So we got some goat blood and

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we smeared it all up on this
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Yeah, we go big Wow.
Who was Do you mind dropping the

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name of who? That was?
Channel five Andrew Callahan. Okay, I

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have to look that up. Yeah, it's like a news real fake news

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site something. Oh, okay,
cool, it's interesting. Yeah, he's

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got like two point two million subscribers
or something like that. It's creata We've

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been down there and it's I always
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research Bigfoot when you could do both? Two birds one stone, Right,

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all you got to do is look
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thoughts as to Some people think of
the Jersey Devil as just interesting folkal or

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story. Some people actually think that
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of the Pine bearans. Do you
find yourself more in either camp or Yeah?

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I think after doing a whole lot
of research into it, I want

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to say it's a really good folklore
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you can piece together. Every part
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the family. The Leeds family is
actually a real true family. Trace it

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back. I have a brick from
the chimney that the Jersey Devil was said

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to fly up through, which is
really cool from the original household. That's

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creepy. Andrew Callahan got me that
too. Yeah, I will say though

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I do my library presentations and I
do have a slide in there about the

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Jersey Devil. I had a presentation
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area, and I used to say
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a misidentified bigfoot, and people are
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in South Jersey. My thing is
seven foot tall, screams at night,

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glowing red eyes. Sounds like a
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it was a misidentification of a sandhill
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may have weather pattern could have caused
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like that, so there's no way of

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looking up what kind of bird this
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It screams like a devil and has
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would be a flying devil for the
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it maybe being in a misidentified big
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Barrens, and I've talked to people
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really weird stuff that happens in those
pine barans for some reasons. Have you

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ever had anything weird happened to you
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we're camping, big trucks will come
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for fifteen to twenty minutes, tinted
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Just odd. We've been late one
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barrens driving in there. I mean, you can get very lost in there.

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It was one of the two. We

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didn't stick around out, but yeah, it's just a crazy area. There's

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I will say, if anybody's interested
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Barons. The New Jersey State Park
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nobody is breaking the rules down there
is Keep that in the back of your

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mind as well. Yes, no
breaking the laws guys. And I got

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pulled over one time and the cop
was really cool. I was at a

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memorial. It's Cran's and memorial used
to be in a Mexican aviator went down

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the Pine Barons. I put this
memorial up for him and I was down

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there just showing my friends the memorial
because they've never seen it. And State

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Park Police pulls up. What are
you doing? And we have our Oliver

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camera gear. We're in Camo.
We're looking for bigfoot. And he's what,

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if you want, you can.
You just can't be at the memorial.

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I was like, okay, thanks
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You had an interesting video about investigating
the Brown Mountain lights. Oh that was

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a cool trip. Yep, down
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a last minute thing knew about it. And I was staying down in Asheville,

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which the Brown mountainins are about hour
fifteen from Ashville. Just like one

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night, I'm going to take a
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get up to where we were.
I think we're at Lynnville Gorge. I

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think it's called is not for the
faint of heart, So you need a

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four wheel drive to get up there, but if you want to check it

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out, it's really cool. There's
a big overlooking thing and what said is

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near or on the mountain in the
distance, actually not Brown Mountains, a

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different name of a mountain. But
anyways, they say that there's these ghost

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lights that appear. Some people think
they're fires, somebody starts a fire,

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some people think they're headlights. And
sometimes they even appear off the mountain,

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as in the sky or behind the
mountain, which is unusual. And sometimes

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there's a fog that comes off the
mountain in very peculiar spots. I just

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wanted to go out there just to
see I could find anything. I sat

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out there for about two hours and
did not hear nor see anything, but

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it was very beautiful. Another one
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happened to you when you were doing
a bigfoot call one time? In Yeah,

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yeah, I know what you're talking
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All right. Let me just say
this was after like a ten mile

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hike in the Florida's heat. This
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so we were a little exhausted by
this point. So the story is,

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we walk out to this lake in
the middle of Maya Haka Hatchie River State

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Park or my no, my Mayaka
Forest. Anyways, we get out this

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area and everybody's Mike, do a
big foot call. Mike, do a

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big foot call. You're the best
at it, You're the best at it.

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I'm like, I'm really not feeling
it, guys, I'm not.

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And they're like, no, you
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one at the trip. It's like, all right, fine. I didn't

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even it wasn't even like a long
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good, good, powerful vocalization and
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You definitely did. Knowing that background
information, I could definitely see how

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that could happen. Though, being
deep into camping for that long, you're

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going around all over the place for
red Eye. Has there been a time

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when you are going out into a
state forest and you've just had something happen

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that really took you back or it
just things got really intense. Yeah,

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just the other day we were hiking
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in northwestern New Jersey, and we
had a class a encounter of a bare

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box. And let me tell you
that they put boxes in the state forest

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by the campsite, so you put
your food in there so the bears can't

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get them. And these things look
or they're about the same size as a

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extremely large black bear and dark.
They paint them black for some reason.

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darker than the rest of this pitch
blackout. I'm like, fleer, flear,

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get the fleer. So we're getting
the fleer up. There's nothing on

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it, and finally we get this
big spotlight on it. It's just a

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bare box. So that was crazy, and this happens, I think to

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everybody that goes big footing. You
get the occasional I'm walking and I'm going

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to pick up a stick from the
trail just to make sure it's not not

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blocking anybody on the trail. But
it's actually a six foot snake. That

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kind of thing. That's a common
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now I think the most I take
out of going on these expeditions, really

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is we get a lot of cool
stuff. I know, when I was

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down in in West Virginia, in
Sutton, West Virginia, there's this place

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you go down to and I went
down there doing it. It's right along

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this river board and I was doing
a big foot call. I wanted to

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go down there at night, and
I literally went down there every night,

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not because it was squatchy, but
the whole forest was just a firefly lit

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up. It was casting shadows that
how many fireflies there were. I was

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like, man, this is the
coolest thing. This is why you go

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bigfoot. It's every place that I
go. It's not about looking and finding

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bigfoot. That's not what I do. I like to go and see areas

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that you wouldn't necessarily see. Like
today, we just got back from a

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little excursion up in the Catskills.
We were up there for a couple of

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days doing a little filming and we
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and it was just absolutely incredible.
And it wasn't anything big footy related

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or anything like that. It's just
one of these side things that you do

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because you're in the area and it's
those things that the views from the mountaintops

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and those waterfall things that really make
you remember why you're doing what you're doing.

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It's not about finding Bigfoot. It's
about seeing something and being outside in

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nature. That's how it is for
me. I got a message back on

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YouTube, and this is back in
like season two. I get an email

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from somebody that says, because of
your videos, I watch your videos every

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week, and because of your videos, I live vicariously through you because I

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have a new illness that I will
not let me out into the woods anymore.

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So you're the videos that I watched
to experience what I used to do,

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because you're doing the same thing that
I used to do. And I

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said, oh man, that's really
me. That's how I knew. Like

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we're filming season eight's that's just how
it goes, right, Yeah, you

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experienced stuff like that and you're like, Okay, this is actually making a

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difference in someone's life. For sure. It makes it all worthwhile. I

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know that's why I do it,
and I'm pretty sure that's probably why you

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do it too. I really like
providing a platform for people to share their

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encounters where it's a safe, respected
environment. And I've noticed that you have

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started to do that as well.
Do you mind sharing about you have a

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series where it's almost you run into
these people and you get them to share.

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How did that come about? Its
Bigfoot Campfire Store is basically what it

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was. I have some of these
really great, long interviews with some really

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unique people, and I can't,
for the life of me, fit them

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down into one episode of my show
because it would just be the interview is

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the whole show, and I can't
have that, you know what I mean.

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So I decided to I'm going to
make this extra special series docu series

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and it could be from two minutes
long to two hours long whenever they want

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to talk about their experiences. And
what I've gathered from the feedback is that

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everybody thinks it's it is. It's
extremely raw, it's not edited, it's

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it is right from the mouth of
the person that had a class a insight

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sighting with a bigfoot. That's that's
cool. And a lot of times ninety

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percent of the times were actually back
in the area. I know there was

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one hunter that that had not gone
back to the area for thirty years before

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I took him back there, and
he was the first first time back there

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that I took him that he saw
I saw a bigfoot, which is crazy.

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Yeah, But speaking of platforms to
allow people to open up about their

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bigfoot encounters, I don't know if
you've see my vehicle, the Bigfoot Mobile

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Command Center. It's all grasped out
with Yeah, seen a little bit of

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it in videos, But tell us
about that. It looks very cool.

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Yeah, it's I made it myself. Took out the back seats and I

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made like a raised sleeping platform so
I could like sleep in the car and

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to pay for Airbnbs and like travel
expenses and stuff like that. He's sleep

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in the car if I need to. Maybe there's storage compartments. I put

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a secondary car battery in there so
I could charge up all my stuff all

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the time. But I put graphics
on it real big This is Bigfoot Mobile

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Command Center. And every other week
I would say, I'll be at like

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seven to eleven or a convenience store
or something like that, and somebody will

406
00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:26.920
come up to me and say,
hey, I've never told anybody this before,

407
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:32.559
but I saw a bigfoot thirty years
ago. And that's so wild,

408
00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:37.880
and it happened so frequently it almost
would shock you how frequently it happens.

409
00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:44.799
But funny story is, so as
I'm sure you do, you talk about

410
00:30:44.839 --> 00:30:49.759
Bigfoot a lot, right, And
I know for me, if it bigfoot's

411
00:30:49.799 --> 00:30:52.640
my job. So I want a
day off of my job every once in

412
00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:56.519
a while. So like I called
my friend up. This a couple of

413
00:30:56.559 --> 00:30:59.640
years ago. I called my friend
up. I said, Hey, we're

414
00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:03.200
going to go out tonight play some
pool, but we're not going to talk

415
00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:07.079
about Bigfoot. Bigfoot is off the
table, right. So we get there,

416
00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:10.440
get out of the car, slam
the door, and what do I

417
00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:14.920
hear from across the parking lot Bigfoot? And I'm like, oh, no,

418
00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:18.640
here we go. So the guy
comes over and he's, hey,

419
00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:25.279
my grandfather has a big foot cast
that he's never shown anybody. Do you

420
00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:27.440
want to see it? And I
said no, I am off tonight.

421
00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:32.240
Now I said absolutely, of course
I want to see of course. So

422
00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:34.519
a couple of weeks later, I
go up to this gentleman's house and he

423
00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:40.880
has not one, but seventy bigfoot
casts off of such Indian that he's never

424
00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:44.839
shown anybody before. And this,
you said, Sussex County, Yes,

425
00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:51.519
sir, WHOA. So that's really
interesting was he getting the tracks from an

426
00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:56.480
area that you hadn't researched before?
Gets him from all over the Kidatiti ridgeline

427
00:31:56.680 --> 00:31:59.640
actually butts up against it, which
is really cool, the place that I

428
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:02.480
don't go because, especially during the
summer, because there's are a ton of

429
00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:08.279
rattlesnakes, Which is very interesting that
he a is going up there himself and

430
00:32:08.440 --> 00:32:14.440
be pulling big footprints from the side
of a cliff. Your professional opinion looking

431
00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:19.759
at did the footprints look pretty legit? Or oh yeah, yeah, this

432
00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:22.839
guy didn't know how to mix the
plaster of Paris at all, but he

433
00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:27.559
the prints were there are some wonky
ones there, but of course you're going

434
00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:30.759
to get wonky ones when you have
a seventy of them that captured over the

435
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:34.559
years. But the guy wasn't faking
it. He wasn't going to tell anybody

436
00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:38.400
about it ever, Like he was
going to die not telling anybody about this.

437
00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:42.559
So that's why I know that they're
legit. Like he wanted me to

438
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:45.319
come over, like his grandson was
the one who told me about it,

439
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:51.039
Like he didn't call me. Okay, so you man, I feel like

440
00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:55.000
I need to put some bigfoot stuff
in my car now. Because it's incredible,

441
00:32:55.039 --> 00:32:59.759
man, Like, you never would
have gotten that unless you had Bigfoot

442
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:04.839
Command Center going on. It's one
hundred percent absolutely Yeah, dude, I'm

443
00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:13.720
going to look into it. The
ottickers on my a, We'll have to

444
00:33:13.720 --> 00:33:15.799
put that in the show for sure. People had to get those, had

445
00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:20.079
to plug it. Oh yeah,
oh yeah, totally. When you are

446
00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:25.799
out filming these expeditions we've talked about
there was an issue with a snake.

447
00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:30.880
You picked up a snake. Have
you run into any other animals when you're

448
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:37.880
out there looking for Bigfoot? Ayah, yeah. The most scared I've ever

449
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:40.920
been in the woods before, the
most scared I've ever been the woods.

450
00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:45.000
Let me set the scene for you
in Stoke State Forest right before a public

451
00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:49.000
BFRO expedition. I was an investigator
at the time, and we got out

452
00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:53.960
there night prior, me and another
investigator, and it was cold, but

453
00:33:54.240 --> 00:34:00.000
it was very There are no clouds
of full moon right, you could see

454
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:04.160
casting a shadow, no question about
it. So I had this one person

455
00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:08.480
ten maybe maybe like just as like
you couldn't sit up in it type of

456
00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:12.400
thing, like the only thing you
could do is snuggle up and sleep in

457
00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:15.960
it. So since it was cold. I was under my two mummy sleeping

458
00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:21.960
bags and I'm just got situated in
a nice warm and everything, and then

459
00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:27.719
it happened, right came up from
the top and just the shadow started casting

460
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:30.280
down, came right over my head
and then started dropping down. What was

461
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:36.039
it? Spider? Oh? Gross? Scared, I've ever been most scared

462
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:39.039
I've ever been in the woods.
I screamed like a little girl. But

463
00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:43.679
that's the three people asked me,
like, Oh, you're not scared of

464
00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:46.960
bears in the woods. Yeah.
Inherently, bears are scary creatures, but

465
00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:50.079
if you don't mess with them,
they're not going to mess with you type

466
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:52.239
of thing. So the three things
that I don't like in the woods tick

467
00:34:52.320 --> 00:35:00.440
spiders and people. Oh yeah,
yeah, people. That's a great point.

468
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:02.400
It's a creature that you don't know
what's going to happen. If you're

469
00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:07.079
way out in the boonies and all
of a sudden there's a person and you

470
00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:13.239
don't know if, yeah, they're
actually out of control, or if they've

471
00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:20.119
got a weapon, or inherently,
as a bigfoot researcher, you don't want

472
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:24.760
to see anybody else when you're researching. That's the goal of going out to

473
00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:30.639
look for Bigfoot. But we were
in the Delaware Water Gap National Recreation Area.

474
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:34.000
This is what you're going off of
what you were just saying. We

475
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:37.320
were doing a it was a night
and a half. It was a very

476
00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:40.400
weird night. We almost stepped on
a bear mom and bear, no it

477
00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:45.360
was baby bear. Mom was in
the woods but didn't. But anyways,

478
00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:51.039
we were driving through this village called
Millbrook Village. It's an old historic village.

479
00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:52.880
Not it's abandoned, but they fixed
it up all nice. Anyway,

480
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:58.480
there was a guy walking along the
road. Nobody lives here, okay,

481
00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:02.559
And it's two o'clock in the morning, and he's in shorts and has a

482
00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:07.559
backpack on and flip flops and it's
cold, and I'm like, okay,

483
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:09.719
something's not right. We got to
stop. And we drive past him and

484
00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:13.239
I'm like, guys, we got
to turn around. And everybody else was

485
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:15.400
like, wait, that's a ghost. We didn't. That's that's definitely not

486
00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:17.719
a person. That's just a ghost. And I'm like, no, it's

487
00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:20.719
not a ghost, it's a person. We got to stop. So we

488
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:24.719
stopped this guy. He was having
a medical emergency, psychiatric emergency, right

489
00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:29.639
he was actually running away from his
house and he was going to he was

490
00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:35.360
going to attempt to do the Appalachian
Trail and this is this is in February.

491
00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:37.360
He had his flip flops on,
he couldn't he wasn't going to make

492
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:42.679
it the night type of thing.
So we ended up finally he wouldn't give

493
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:46.840
up any information about when I'm not
there's the state police out there, but

494
00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:50.360
they're just going to lock him up
in a hospital or something. So we

495
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:54.719
ended up getting contacting his dad finally
after hours of talking with him, and

496
00:36:54.800 --> 00:37:00.519
his dad came out and got him
and stuff. So and I wouldn't recommend

497
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:04.480
anybody doing that, especially with somebody
that's having a psychiatric emergency. As I

498
00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:07.440
mentioned though before, I'm an EMT, so I know how to handle this

499
00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:12.519
situations. But definitely it wouldn't have
made it the night. Talking about being

500
00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:15.360
in the right place at the right
time, even and that's just because we

501
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:17.280
were looking for Bigfoot. God,
if we weren't looking for Bigfoot out there,

502
00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:21.800
who knows what had happened to that
guy. What are the chances,

503
00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:28.199
dude, that just random EMT Bigfoot
just happened to be in the right area

504
00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:31.679
so he could help a dude not
have his last night, like, good

505
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:36.679
on you for sticking it out and
making sure that he was good. A

506
00:37:36.679 --> 00:37:42.719
few questions that maybe the listeners might
be trying to imagine that, I would

507
00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:46.880
ask, have you been fortunate enough
to have any visual sightings of anything bigfoot

508
00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:52.159
related yourself? Are you still working
towards that maybe someday another funny story for

509
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:55.199
you. We were down in the
pine barns as we were just talking about

510
00:37:55.239 --> 00:38:00.280
along this river where we found footprints
before, and we were walking and it

511
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:04.960
was me and my friend Tom,
and all of a sudden, I was

512
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:07.000
a little bit ahead of him.
Talked about being at the right place at

513
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:13.000
the right time. I just I
also hear flop and I turn around and

514
00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:16.880
he is literally up to his chest
in mud. He fell through. It

515
00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:21.840
was like quick mud. He lost
his like he lost his boots type of

516
00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:22.719
thing, Like he wouldn't be able
to get out if I wasn't there.

517
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:27.960
So if bigfooters, if you're going
to go out, always try to go

518
00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:30.480
with another person. You never know
what's going to happen. It could be

519
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:36.079
as freaky as getting caught in quick
mud, but it happens. Anyways,

520
00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:38.960
After this, we're walking. He
doesn't have any boots on. He's a

521
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:44.119
trooper. He's tough it out where
He's like, I see something, So

522
00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:47.320
I grab. I wasn't filling my
show. I had a still camera and

523
00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:52.400
I just pick up the still camera. I'm just snapping away and I didn't

524
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:57.360
see anything. He saw it.
We went back and looked at the pictures

525
00:38:57.519 --> 00:39:02.639
and it was actually like a little
blurry like tip of the head that you

526
00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:06.840
could possibly see. That was like
coming out over a rock. Oh man,

527
00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:08.920
it was so far away you can't
make it out. It could have

528
00:39:08.920 --> 00:39:12.159
been a deer. Nobody's ever going
to see that picture, you know what

529
00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:15.639
I mean. Have I seen anything? No, But I think I've come

530
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:21.320
across everything, but short of seeing
one. Yeah, I get you.

531
00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:27.079
It's one of those things where I've
been out two times, which is low

532
00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:30.840
number compared to yourself. But I
think we I think we both would one

533
00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:37.519
day want to have that experience.
There's that old question that always gets brought

534
00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:44.239
up. How are you classifying this
creature that you're trying to find? What

535
00:39:44.360 --> 00:39:50.000
is bigfoot? To you? I
go about researching and looking for this creature

536
00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:55.719
the way I would go about researching
an extinct or expired animal, So I

537
00:39:55.760 --> 00:40:04.360
think they're biological creatures. The evidence
that I have found aka footprints, I've

538
00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:10.199
been given some hair and stuff.
Like, if they weren't of this dimension

539
00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:15.519
or whatever, this plane that we're
on, I don't think they would leave

540
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:22.159
too much physical evidence. But anyways, it's just I think that you can't

541
00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:30.159
explain an unknown with another unknown.
And I think when you have people that

542
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:37.800
are of the realm of Bigfoot or
UFOs or intradimensional creatures that we have no

543
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:44.440
we don't have any knowledge of,
you can't use that to explain something else.

544
00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:49.360
It just doesn't work like that.
So when you have somebody that tries

545
00:40:49.400 --> 00:40:52.280
to use that logic to explain something
away, it's just like, man,

546
00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:54.239
we got to think of the most
simple. If it walks like a duck

547
00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:58.119
and talks like a duck, it's
probably a duck, right. So that's

548
00:40:58.159 --> 00:41:02.400
what I think Bigfoot is, except
obviously bigot absolutely, So we've got definitely

549
00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:10.000
we're in the physical creature something flesh
and blood camp. So then going down

550
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:15.360
that road, there's a few ways
you could go off. Right, are

551
00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:23.840
you categorizing it in any specific you
have maybe something more apla like something more

552
00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:31.239
human yeah, I think it's got
to be. It would be nice if

553
00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:35.880
we knew more about this creature,
right, but we just don't. And

554
00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:39.159
that's the thing. I think we
would be speculating at anything if we could

555
00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:45.800
guess at that. But I think
personally that it's probably more human but also

556
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:51.079
has characteristics of primates. I don't
think they're intelligent as we are. I

557
00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:54.400
don't think Bigfoot can start a fire. I do think they have like means

558
00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:58.840
of communication though, so they could
talk to each other and communicate with each

559
00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:00.960
other. So that's where I think
that. I think they could use primitive

560
00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:06.880
tools to be able to do their
daily tasks and get food and stuff like

561
00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:09.960
that. That makes sense to me. So I think that they're like at

562
00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:15.800
a premium and er doll level of
existence. When it comes to where we

563
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:19.400
have evolved from and where they might
be right now, I think they have

564
00:42:19.480 --> 00:42:22.199
evolved just like we did, except
they took a totally different path coming over

565
00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:28.280
than we did. If Bigfoot ever
discovers fire, we are in a whole

566
00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:32.880
able. Can you imagine that,
Yeah, worse fires everywhere? It would

567
00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:36.760
that would be bad news or like
all of a sudden, you'd be in

568
00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:42.800
your campsite and this huge like torch
would get thrown through your head. Yeah,

569
00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:47.239
no thanks, that would be some
wild stuff. The Big Red Eye

570
00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:57.800
is becoming definitely quite quite the quite
the thing you've got. You're sending out

571
00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:01.800
a few graphics I've seen where you're
you're trying to almost gather a team together.

572
00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:07.960
Can you talk a few minutes about
what are certain people you're looking to

573
00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:12.480
join your team? Yeah, so
here's what it comes down to it.

574
00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:20.320
And this might take your listeners by
surprise, but bigfooting isn't a priority for

575
00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:23.079
a lot of people. I do
this full time. This is my life.

576
00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:28.400
Like I go around, I support
myself. I speak at libraries during

577
00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:30.280
the day. That's how I get
to travel around to all these places.

578
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:37.440
I set up a library tour and
I'll do seven to ten libraries over a

579
00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:39.920
twelve day period and be camping that
whole time film in the show. It's

580
00:43:39.960 --> 00:43:45.079
really awesome. But yeah, it's
like pulling teeth trying to get people to

581
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:51.079
come out to some of these longer
expeditions. I'm at a place where I'm

582
00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:54.039
able to compensate people now to come
out and with their abilities, whether it

583
00:43:54.119 --> 00:43:59.239
be for filming. We're always looking
for camera people to come out. I'm

584
00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:00.599
getting tired of a whole the camera
and fill on myself. That's just what

585
00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:04.559
it comes down to. But that's
it is what it is. But we're

586
00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:10.239
also looking for like somebody who will
come out to these expeditions but manage and

587
00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:16.039
be the logistical operations person, Like
we have an interview this time, so

588
00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:21.599
we need to leave here and get
to the library at this stuff just so

589
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:28.079
everything moves easy. And it's gotten
to the point where I'm I have to

590
00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:31.719
I have to get more people to
do this now where it's become more of

591
00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:37.719
a it's become big, it's getting
larger than myself. Like I said,

592
00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:40.679
I do this full time and it's
a full time job. Editing the show,

593
00:44:40.800 --> 00:44:45.239
running my website, doing the library
towards I That in itself is a

594
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:50.559
full time thing. So we're also
looking for people to book podcasts and stuff

595
00:44:50.599 --> 00:44:53.280
like that and just just some of
the stuff that it would take loads off

596
00:44:53.320 --> 00:44:59.159
my back. Right where we're doing
a sponsorship manager now where we have we're

597
00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:05.280
going around looking at companies that could
have some items that they would want us

598
00:45:05.320 --> 00:45:09.039
to use on our show. We've
got that unique following where all you need

599
00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:14.039
is a really good email and you
could do some pretty amazing things. M

600
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:19.159
Let's say you have someone that is
new to your channel, do you have

601
00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:24.760
a top three videos that you would
really want them to check out? Yeah,

602
00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:30.079
first would be when I got Bear
maced. Oh oh yeah, that

603
00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:35.039
would be number one. Yeah,
yeah, no, number Some of the

604
00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:38.920
actual like legit episodes. I know
there's some that I put out because I

605
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:43.159
put out a video a week and
it's almost impossible for me to go on

606
00:45:43.159 --> 00:45:45.920
a big Foot expedition each week and
then edited the show and whatever. That's

607
00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:50.639
why there's a lot of episodes from
High Point and from Stokes and stuff like

608
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that from Sussetts County because that's where
I can get to logistically. But check

609
00:45:54.639 --> 00:45:58.199
out some of the big, longer
episodes that there's a couple that are coming

610
00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:00.719
out that are really good. The
Whitehall, New York one that we just

611
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:04.159
had that hawl a lot or the
Whoop on That one's coming out soon.

612
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And I know we just filmed up
in the Catskills, so there's going to

613
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be a cat Skill episode coming out, which is really it's going to be

614
00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:15.199
a really cool episode too. Just
check out some of the funny things.

615
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:20.480
I have a thermal capture of a
bigfoot that I filmed in high Point that

616
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:22.199
it could be a big foot.
I don't know what it was, but

617
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:27.119
I filmed it on thermal during the
day, and I actually filmed it on

618
00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:30.079
my regular camera during the day too, and I do a side by side

619
00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:32.360
comparison of where what it was and
stuff, so and we actually go back

620
00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:37.280
and do a recreation. That's something
cool to see as well. Do you

621
00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:43.760
have any advice for listeners that are
like I might want to go out and

622
00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:46.840
find some state force with some bigfoot
action, go out there and see what

623
00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:52.400
I can do. Do you have
any advice for the new researchers that are

624
00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:57.840
trying to get into it. Yeah, and I've been asked this question a

625
00:46:57.880 --> 00:47:01.159
lot. So what I just did
because I can is I made up a

626
00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:05.679
DOCU series called squatch Obles how to
Find a big Foot big footing one on

627
00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:07.840
one. So just pick up a
copy Squat Doubles. It's ten bucks in

628
00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:12.679
our Etsy now, but it's what
it is. It's you got to you

629
00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:15.559
would you don't want to go by
yourself the first time. You want to

630
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:17.280
play it safe, but you also
don't want to go out with a complete

631
00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:22.119
stranger. Bring one of your friends
out and have the tools and equipment that

632
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:27.559
you'll need to be able to that
you would going on a hike. Be

633
00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:31.360
smart about it. I would scout
out an area during the day first.

634
00:47:31.400 --> 00:47:35.440
That's what I do is I don't
go to any area that I haven't been

635
00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:37.760
first during the day at night because
that's dangerous. Right. There could be

636
00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:43.320
loose rocks or the ice or something
that you didn't see. So always scope

637
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:46.599
out a place during the day.
But the most the biggest part about it

638
00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:52.239
is have fun, have a good
time when you're out there. Is like

639
00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:54.119
I said before, see something that
you would see sitting on the couch,

640
00:47:55.119 --> 00:48:01.360
and make it, make it something
that that you are really interested in,

641
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:05.199
and make it how it's going to
be fun for you. There's no right

642
00:48:05.239 --> 00:48:07.719
or wrong way to look for bigfoot, right, absolutely, Yeah, that's

643
00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:13.880
at the end of the day.
Good bigfoot outing is also a really good

644
00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:17.920
camping outing if you're doing it right. Camping on steroids. Absolutely, that's

645
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:23.519
what I tell people. Yeah,
do you have any things that you follow

646
00:48:23.519 --> 00:48:29.639
when you're trying to find Let's say
I'm going to this state and I'm looking

647
00:48:29.719 --> 00:48:35.840
for the good bigfoot areas. Here's
the thing. When I do my tours,

648
00:48:36.400 --> 00:48:40.400
the way I find a place to
squatch or a place to camp is

649
00:48:40.480 --> 00:48:45.159
I go and I map out my
library locations, and then I pick a

650
00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:50.400
state park that centralized to all of
them. That just logistically makes it easy

651
00:48:50.440 --> 00:48:52.320
for me. I can't be driving
three four hours each day to get to

652
00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:55.719
a library. That just doesn't make
any sense. So all camp in one

653
00:48:55.719 --> 00:49:00.400
of these areas that's centralized. Now
that may or may not be the squatchiest

654
00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:04.719
area that I can go bigfooting.
But that doesn't mean anything to me,

655
00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:08.519
because just as there are reports a
bigfoot, there are not reports the bigfoot.

656
00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:13.239
People aren't reporting bigfoot because either they're
not there or maybe there's just nobody

657
00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:16.079
looking there. You need to have
two things to report a bigfoot, A

658
00:49:16.119 --> 00:49:20.000
person in a bigfoot, and if
there's no people looking for bigfoot, you're

659
00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:23.639
not going to find one. But
they take that a step further, and

660
00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:30.400
what I'll do is during my library
presentations, I'll just say they're all local

661
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:31.760
people. I'll say, hey,
who here is seeing a bigfoot? Is

662
00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:37.199
my first question that I asked,
and people will come up to me,

663
00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:38.960
especially at the end of the thing
and say I saw a bigfoot here and

664
00:49:38.960 --> 00:49:44.079
here in this park, in this
park, and then I'll go there.

665
00:49:44.599 --> 00:49:50.280
Why not? It sounds so obvious, but like it's smart. Yeah,

666
00:49:50.519 --> 00:49:53.519
it just asks the people if they
love knowledge. Where it comes down to,

667
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:58.400
I love it. I love it. That is so awesome, Mike.

668
00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:01.800
It has been a fun, fun
chat with you. I'm glad we're

669
00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:07.280
able to actually get spent an hour. That's crazy, get an interview.

670
00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:10.760
And this is if streaming yard doesn't
mess this up, we might be curse.

671
00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:15.079
But do you mind spending a few
minutes reminding people how they can keep

672
00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:19.880
up to date with what you're doing, Things that you can pick up on

673
00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:24.079
your se stuff like that. Yeah, we have everything that you can imagine

674
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675
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know anything about the show, head
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676
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677
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what's coming up, our tours,
where next appearances are going to be.

678
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All that good stuff. YouTube is
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679
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680
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681
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682
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683
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687
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We have really cool bigfoot ornaments because
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688
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that is coming out now right,
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689
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adorable are these things? Christmas work? That's pretty sweet? I like that.

690
00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:35.320
Yeah, yeah, But anyways,
Yeah, I'm not hard to find.

691
00:51:35.360 --> 00:51:37.800
If anybody has wants me to come
to their area and speak at a

692
00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:43.000
library out by them, or has
some interesting stuff that they would like to

693
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share with me, you're more than
welcome find me on any platform or social

694
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medium. Very open, awesome.
Are you really only waiting on your four

695
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thousand hours watch time for the h
because you're over like two k okay,

696
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so big for saety I'm going to
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697
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699
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hit four thousand, like, we
need to fix that for him. We're

701
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going to hopefully fix that for you. Mikes. Thank you so much for

702
00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:28.159
coming on. It has been a
really fun chat. We can't see what

703
00:52:29.039 --> 00:52:31.719
comes down the pipe from you guys
next, but thank you so much for

704
00:52:31.719 --> 00:52:35.159
coming on. Man, Hey,
next time out in your area, I

705
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will let you know for sure you're
at Bigfoot Society. Our goal is to

706
00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:44.599
provide a platform for those that have
encountered Bigfoot to share their encounter and a

707
00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:49.320
safe and respected environment. But we
need to hear your story. If you've

708
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experienced something that you just can't explain, please send me an email at Bigfoot

709
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Society at gmail dot com. Then
we can start the converse. And I

710
00:53:00.760 --> 00:53:05.920
know a lot of you have not
shared your encounter at all. It's been

711
00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:10.360
twenty years and it's time that you
get this off your chest and then you

712
00:53:10.400 --> 00:53:14.679
can get some well deserved for rest, because I know you haven't been sleeping.

713
00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:19.440
I understand what you're going through,
and I appreciate every one of you listening