Nov. 2, 2024

Bigfoot Encounters from Connecticut to North Carolina!

Join renowned Bigfoot researcher Tom Sheehan as he takes us on a spine-chilling journey through his most captivating encounters and expeditions across the northeastern United States. From the mysterious American Legion State Forest in Connecticut to...

Join renowned Bigfoot researcher Tom Sheehan as he takes us on a spine-chilling journey through his most captivating encounters and expeditions across the northeastern United States. From the mysterious American Legion State Forest in Connecticut to the infamous Devil's Hopyard and beyond, Tom shares his gripping firsthand accounts. This episode also delves into significant events like a Bigfoot confrontation during a meteor shower in Maggie Valley and the haunting aftermath of Hurricane Helene in North Carolina, revealing the human toll and ongoing community recovery.

Resources:Bigfoot in New York Monsterquest Episode - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws0WEXh02Vk

Granville Reservoir Bigfoot Society episode mentioned - https://youtu.be/CGxqWIwc7IY

Tom's Bigfoot Youtube channel - https://www.youtube.com/@BlueRidgeBigfoot

Contact Tom via email - blueridgebigfoot@mail.com

Marlborough Monkey documentary - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex8mcyCvT6A

Contribute to Helene Relief - https://www.theconfessionalspodcast.com/helene-relief

Steve Kulls and Squatch Detective discuss Mt. St. Helens Bigfoot - https://youtu.be/iY8JH7EnPf4?feature=shared

Harley Owens Youtube channel - https://www.youtube.com/@HarleyTheBigfootResearcher

Northeastern Exped Youtube channel - https://youtu.be/iY8JH7EnPf4?feature=shared

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privilege of talking to Tom Shean today. He's a bigfoot

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researcher originally from New England, but now he's based out

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of North Carolina, and Tom, I've been wanting to get

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you on the show for quite a while, but we're

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finally here and it's a pleasure to have you on tonight.

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How's it going.

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It is going just great, Jeremiah, and thank you so much,

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and I am thrilled to be here with you.

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Absolutely. We were talking before we started recording that it

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is a special treat for me to be able to

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talk to someone who was originally from Massachusetts as myself

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and also a bigfoot researcher. There's not it's hard to

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get those guys on the show. So when you're able

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to get those guys on the show, it is a

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real treat. So we'll definitely have some fun things to

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talk about. But Tom, let's start at the beginning. What

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was it that got you into this crazy bigfoot world

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to begin with?

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All right, Well, first of all, start up with my age.

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I was born in the mid sixties, so I'm like

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a og gen X, And so I grew up watching

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Star Trek reruns in the seventies and into sci fi UFOs,

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ghosts and all that weird paranormal stuff because it was

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just fascinating to me. He was like, Yeah, this is exciting.

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The real world is boring. This is exciting. In the seventies,

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we all remember, well, not at all, but I'm sure

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most of us remember. Leondard Nimoy had a program called

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In Search of and he covered like a lots monster

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UFOs and disappearances, and he also covered Bigfoot. And I

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remember watching that show, you know, Beyond Afternoon after school

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and I'd say, oh wow. And I saw Patty for

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the first time, the Patterson Gimmlin film, and I said,

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that is real. I saw that and I said, that

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is real. There's no way it's anything else but a real,

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actual Bigfoot. And so I grew up that way, you know,

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that kind of you know, thinking about what people call

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the paranormal or not outside of the realm of the usual.

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And as I got older, it is okay, this is cool.

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That the Internet came along in the nineties, and by

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the two thousands there was a lot of stuff on

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the Internet about Bigfoot. It was one thing I as

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a kid, I'd go to library all the time and

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read what I could about Bigfoot and other things. But

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you know, once the Internet really exploded with information, it's

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like wow, It's like kid in the candy store. And

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in the early two thousands I was able to network

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with other people interested in Bigfoot and we formed a

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group called NESRA, and that's any SRA, the Northeast Sasquatch

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Researchers Association. And this is sometime around two thousand and four,

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two thousand and five SEA. I don't even remember the

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exact date, but I was really excited about this. There

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were five of us originally who founded it. We had

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a big meeting in Connecticut and we all got together

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and said, Okay, this is what we're going to be,

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this is what we're going to do. And then we

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started doing our own little expeditions. We'd go to places

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in New York, Vermont, they went to New Jersey. I

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didn't get to go out those, but I heard those

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were great. I think they did a virginuine list because

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we ended up eventually with members from all over the

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East Coast, up and down the East Coast and even

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towards the Midwest, and we are going to gang Busters

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for a while there. In fact, at one point we

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were approached by the History Channel and their show Monster Quest.

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They wanted to come on an expedition with us to

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Whitehall because they were doing a special about the white

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Hall incidents that involved police officers. They actually had the

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original witnesses, police officers and the towns people who lived

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in the white Hall area who had these encounters. So

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while they were doing that, and by the way, in

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this episode is called Bigfoot in New York. Anyone can

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go on YouTube and you can see the complete episode.

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Just type in Bigfoot in New York. It should come up.

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That's about forty five minutes long or so. And it

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was a really great, really great experience. They intermingle our investigation,

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our lot, well not live but live for us, with

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the witnesses, the eyewitness accounts from the seventies when this

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originally happened. And yeah, it's a really good it's a

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really good episode. So anyway, now, before that though, right

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when we found anestra, I start, I was looking up Okay, Bigfoot,

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you know, the Pacific Northwest, the California, Canada, and no

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Bigfoot is everywhere. I found stories about something called the

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Winstead wild Man, and that Winstead is in northwestern Connecticut.

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It's up in the mountainous areas they're called the Northwest

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Hills of Connecticut, which are if you look at a

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topographical map of the United States, especially the northeast, you

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go see the green Mountains of Vermont, very rugged, you know,

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the northern end of the Appalachian Mountains. Of course, when

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I'm down in North Carolina, I have to say the

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Appalachian Mountains. But they stand through western Massachusetts and down

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into Connecticut where they pretty much tapeer off in Connecticut.

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But that's all one big, long, continuous mountain range. And

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Winstead is near the southern end of these mountains. And

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the original story of the Winstead wild Man goes back

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to eighteen eighteen ninety five, I believe who the year was,

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And the story goes something like this, A a town

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councilman from Winstead was walking his dog, a bulldog, through

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blueberries anyway, some kind of berry patch, and he encountered

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a man. He called it a man was covered with

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hair with black hair. He had long hair along his

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shoulders and his whole body's covered hair, and he was

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very strong, and Brownie said he wouldn't an ordinary man

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would not stand a chance against him, and that his

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dog became very scared, ran between his legs, the on whimpering,

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and all classic bigfoot descriptions basically what it is. But

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back then they called them a wild man. And he

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said it was about six feet tall, but you know

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that could be a juvenile. And this this started a

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little frenzy in that area. Oh it on, said wild man.

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Then more stories other people said yeah, I saw them too,

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and soon they started. The tale started getting a little

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blown out of proportion. But the original encounter, the original story,

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is the most important one and in my eyes and

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in many others, what he did he had an encounter

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with a big foot. Now we move along up to

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the seventies. In the seventy two, there's a story from

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the Hartford Current that some people saw a strange manlike

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creature across a pond or a crystal lake reservoir that's

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called so they walked upright and finally disappeared into the woods,

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eight feet tall, covered with hair, And it sounds like

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another Bigfoot to me. And two years later, in nineteen

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seventy four, the wild Man was seen again, this time

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by two couples who'd been parked at night. If I

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a rugg Brook reservoir described the police being terrified by

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seeing a six foot, three hundred pound creature. So that's

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kind of fat covered with dark colored hair in the moonlight,

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and fled the area immediately. So that just sounds like

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all Bigfoot activity to me. So looking into that, I said, wow,

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there is an area right near where I live in Springfield,

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Massachusetts that I can drive to and who knows, you

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see what's out there? You know, sounds like a good

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place to do some investigating. So I'm new to this,

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I said, I will take a drive out there. So

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I jump in my car, take a drive out to

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I decided I'm going to a state forest in the

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Winston area called the American Legion State Forest. They have that,

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and right across the road is another one called the

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People's State Forest. This is very rugged forested terrain, I said.

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You know, as I got out there, I said, wow,

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I can see Bigfoot being here. So what I did

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was I drove down There's just one road an American Legion.

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It's called Legion Road. I drove my car all the

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way down to the very end of the road, which

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is good, you know, at least a mile and a

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half into the into the forest, and when you get

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to the end, there's actually a culvert that you have

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to cross, and sometimes it's washed out. I was able

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to drive down all the way to the end, and

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it's very swampy and marshy down there. So I parked

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my car, got out, and you know, I was just

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looking around, said oh, that this might be a good

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spot for our brand new group NESRA to come, you know,

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do a little exploring, a little research. So as I'm

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standing there outside of my car, I'm looking around and

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then I hear I would swear I heard some slight

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rustling in woods to my right. You know, I'm at

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the end of the dead end road. I'm looking towards

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the end of the road, so the Russians is to

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my right. Oh and by the way, I don't have

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it now, but I will be going down there in

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a couple of days since I'm in I'm in Connecticut

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right now, I'm going to go back to the exact

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same area and I'm gonna take a video of the

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entire place put it up on my YouTube channel, so

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any listeners who want to see what are exactly I'm

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talking about can go see the video on my channel

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later on. So anyway, I'm looking around here the noise,

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there's something in there. So I started walking into the woods,

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and as I get in there, I don't see anything

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like moving, but I see impressions, very large impressions in

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the ground. And it is this ground you know where

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it's kind of like a peat moss I think it is.

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It's like very spongy, it's got moss growing all over it.

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So you step on it and it's a little springy.

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But whatever this was, it like sunk into it and

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made some really big, deep impressions. Now, it wasn't an

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actual the classic big foot where okay, there's it looks

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like a humid foot and there's five toes. It was

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more like just the general shape because the nature of

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the medium that it was stepping in. But it was

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definitely big whatever it was, So I that's wow. And

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then I look, Okay, when you see one, the first

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thing is okay, I'm gonna look for like a trackway

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was there a step behind it? Is there a step

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you know, beyond it? And I looked in yeah, sure enough,

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it looked like there was a step here or step there,

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and they were pretty far apart. They're like five feet apart.

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The actual impression I measured it was about fourteen inches

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long about six inches wide. So all right, so I'm

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following these which looked like, okay, this is the heel

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end and that it will be the toe end. I'm

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and I'm walking in that general direction. I hear more

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rustling in the woods ahead of me, and thinking, okay,

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this is like right there, there's something here, is right

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up there in front of me, but the growth of

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the force is taking up where I really couldn't see

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much more than maybe twenty to thirty feet in front

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of me. So whatever this was was beyond that where

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I really couldn't see anything, but I heard the rustling.

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So I decided to know what I want to do

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with a wood knock, and we all know what a

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wood knock is. But I didn't have anything with me.

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I I didn't see anything near me I could use,

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so I did something else. I do what's I call

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it a hand pop And some of you might know

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what I'm talking about. But if you take your hands

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and you make them like a cup shape where you

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put the two together, and then you open your mouth

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like a big wide circle with your mouth and you

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clap your hands those cupped hands right in front of

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your mouth like that, that makes this really loud popping sound.

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I'll do it right now like like that. And if

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you're out in the middle of a forest where there's

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no sounds at all, that makes a very loud sound

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that carries. And I recently saw a video where someone

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said they saw they were witnessing a big foot. They

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said he brought his hands up to its mouth in

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front of its face and then made a wood knocking sound.

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Now he could he wasn't close enough to see exactly

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what it did, but according to what he saw, as

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soon as he raised its hands to its mouth, the

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wood knocking sound happened. So just saying that, hey, maybe

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that's something they do, well, it's something that I did

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that day. I did it three times. I did it boo.

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I just stood there, silence, listened.

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Big for a society who will be right back after

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these messages.

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Then in about five to ten seconds after I did that,

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I hear the loudest bang, bang bang on a tree

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just in the same direction in front of me that

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I was going where I heard the sound, the more

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rustling sound, and on the third bang, the distinct sound

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of you know you hear it on TV or in

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a movie if you haven't seen any real life or

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heard in real life of a tree falling over, you

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know that cracking of the wood with a big loud

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boom when it hit the ground. And I stood there

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like I was in shock. I said, what just happened?

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Like freaking out the loud bangs, the tree fall and

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the crash on the ground. I said, okay, I stood there, Okay,

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what's gonna happen next? And after a couple of minutes,

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I said, okay, I'm I'm gonna start heading heading in

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that direction. So I did. I started finally going up

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that way. It was up. I had to go up

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a little slight ridge, headed back up to the road

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that I drove in on, and I found the tree

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that fell. It was actually a dead tree, but it

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was very big and thick. It was at least at

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least eighteen inches in diameter. I'm not sure what kind

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of tree it was. But it was dead and I said,

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oh wow, but you know what this is where it

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was knocked over. It was knocked over exactly a perpendicular

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across the road that I drove in, blocking my car in.

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And I have heard other people say they will knock

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over trees and block your car in. I said, oh,

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but not before. I was like, this is new. I'm new.

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I'm totally green going out in the field looking around.

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And I didn't really have a camp. This is back

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cell phones where like what we have now. But I

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didn't think about taking pictures or anything. I did return

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the next day to make a plaster cast of the

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foot impressions. But anyway, at that point I've said, okay,

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now my cars blocked in. Now what did I do?

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And now I got this little four door four cylinders

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sitting out of the Ford Escort. I had a CBE

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antenna magnetic mount with this cable. I said, okay, well,

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I'm going to take the CB cable. I'm going to

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wrap it around this end of the tree here and

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tied it to the bottom of my car and hopefully

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I can drag this enough out of the way where

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I can drive around it. And I did. I was

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able to do that, so and I looked at the

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base of the tree. My first okay, did something, go

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up and stand at the base of the tree and

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do this, And sure enough I found another exact impression

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of the same ones I found earlier, fourteen inches long,

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six inches wide at the base of the tree. It

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was not as deep, but it was definitely there. So

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I got I got the tree out of the way,

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got in my car, and I was able to leave. Now.

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I returned the next day. I said, oh, I'm going

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to go back and I'm going to make plaster casts

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of these. Rain was in the forecast too, some storms

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were moving in, so I got in there quickly as

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I could. I made one cast of the first really

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deep impression I found. I went. I tried to make

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a cast of the one at the base of the tree,

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but it was so shallow I really couldn't get a

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nice stick layer of the plaster in there, and that

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one just crumbled when I took it out because I

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actually was in a rush because the rain, the big

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thunderstorm was coming in. So anyway, yeah, I did get

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the one cast, and it was the very first time

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I ever made a cast, and one part of it

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actually broke off, but it was a very impressive looking

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fourteen inch by six inch put shape print. I said,

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no toes. Toes would have been awesome, but no, there

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were no toes, and so that was it. Now. Yet

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that was about two thousand and five ish, I'd have

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to say. So that is my experience with And here's

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the thing. I never saw a creature. I never saw

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what did that. I never saw what made the prince.

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I never saw what made the bangs on the tree

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and knocked it over. I'm only assuming, based on the

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history of the area, what I was there for, and

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what happened, how it happened. All the circumstantial evidence in

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my mind says it was a bigfoot that did that.

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Oh yeah, I mean, especially finding the fourteen inch indentation

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by the tree. I mean that to me, that's like

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a done deal, right, I mean what else?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was the thought of my mind.

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Sa Okay, this tree is knocked over while was standing here.

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Yet there's that same impression in the ground. Actually, So

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a few days later, some of the members of our

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new group NESRA we went back there and looked around.

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We actually did an overnight but nothing happened while we

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were there, but also in Connecticut, there are some other

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researchers that I've recently gotten back in contact with, living

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in a totally different part of Connecticut, but they have

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some interesting activity in their area on some private property,

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and the property owner has given them permission to just

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pretty much just park the overnight. And I've joined them

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a few times and we have heard some interesting sounds.

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And they have these zoom recorders with the microphones and

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the amplifiers, so you can really hear, you know, small

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sounds from a distance, really great equipment. And what we

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do we just park our vehicles and sit in the

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cars and hang the microphones out our windows and just

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sit there and listen. And it's amazing the sounds that

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you can hear at two o'clock, three o'clock in the morning,

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when you're normally sleeping. It is a completely different world

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out there in this specific area. They said, at one

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time there's this big quartz boulder that they park next to,

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and one time they were parked there and this huge

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rock COM's flying in and it smashes on the other

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side of the boulder that the park next to, and

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pieces of the rock went flying and one of the

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times I got to either with them. We you know,

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you're sitting there, you falling asleep. You know, you're listening

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to Okay, you hear some creak is sturbing, and you know,

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maybe the couple little rustles to leave here and there,

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but nothing but all of a sudden, maybe I think

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it was like two forty five in the morning. I'm

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I'm dozing off, but I got the headphones on listening

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and I hear bipedal footsteps are getting closer closer to

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the car. I wake up, my eyes wide open, my

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heart is poundering. I'm a bigfoot is walking right up

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to our cars. And we had two where radios to

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communicate with each other. So I get on the radio.

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I said, hey, those are bite people footsteps. And one

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of the people they get back to me. You think

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there's a bite people post steps, And that happened. The

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footsteps all of a sudden turn into a run and

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they go off into the distance. Well, okay, there, I

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guess that was a big foot coming up too. But

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now he's gone. But so that was also in Connecticut.

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Yet there is there is so much activity in Connecticut Massachusetts.

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A lot of people don't talk about. In fact, I

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just heard your story with Ernie from Granville Reservoir, which

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that turns out that's not very far from the Winstead area,

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Oh yeah, which is also also another part of that

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same extension Vermont, Massachusetts and Connecticut.

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Yeah, I mean it easily could see the same bigfoot

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that are hanging out down where your area was, maybe

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being part of that whole Granville Cobble Mountain area. I mean,

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it's yeah, it's not that far behind. Did you did

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you ever check out that area as well? Or were

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you pretty much just down in Connecticut.

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Well, I have never been particularly in the Granville area,

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since it's so close to the American Legion state for us.

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When I go up there this weekend to take my

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video for this story, I'm just gonna take a ride

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over to It's like twenty five minutes away from there,

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and you know, I looked it up, you know, being

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the researcher, and I looked it up and I know

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where it is, so yeah, I can park right here

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and walk right into the woods. I'm just gonna take

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a look around. Because Ernie's story was fascinating.

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Oh it really is. And the thing about it is that.

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There's so many other people that have been contacting me

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since that story came out, since you shared on the channel,

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and other people that have been like, yeah, I've also

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experienced stuff in that area. So right now trying to

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get other episodes set up of that same area. We'll

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see if they actually come to Fruition. But it's just

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it's wild to think that there is an area that

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is so close to Westfield that has some pretty intense

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bigfoot action going on. So it'll see. We'll see what

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comes of that for sure. But did you ever did

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you ever have any any bigfoot research happen in Massachusetts

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in any other areas.

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Well? Not me specifically, but my friends that I was

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just talking about in another part of Connecticut. They moved

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to Connecticut a few years ago, but they used to

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live in western Massachusetts and they they have told me

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about some very interesting places. One in particular is up

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on the north end of Reservoir. Yep, there are some

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camp sites up there. There's campgrounds where you can go camping.

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They say, yeah, there is. There is a lot of

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activity up in the north end of Reservoir.

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It's a I know exactly who you're talking about. I

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talked to them like three or three or four years ago.

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I think it's a couple, right, Yes, it is. Yeah,

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they're they're great. It's been a long time, but yeah,

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they they have a very interesting story and I think

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maybe even they're involved with things around Mount Tom.

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I'm not sure. Yeah, yeah, Mount Tom. I wish I

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had known about that. I was still in Springfield at

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the time. I said, oh, well, but I heard all

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about that encounter. That's a pretty good one that the

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feature and his kid.

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Yeah, no, that's that's I don't think that was even

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one that got on the episode. But we had been

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talking for like an hour and a half before we

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actually started recording a few days before, and she told

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me that story and it was wild. It's just just

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a wild account. Hopefully someday maybe I'll maybe I'll have

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to talk to her again. But it's a it's a

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good one.

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And the thing is yeah, and the thing is Mount

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Tom is like right there next. First of all, Holy

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yok is a city, and then there's Chickapee in Springfield.

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It's like right there. I think the greater Springfield population

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is close to half a million people, and they are

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big for right up there. On the mountain there right

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now where I am, I'm visiting. I'm in Connecticut now,

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visiting from North Carolina. And where I am, I'm very

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close to a place called the Devil's Hopyard down in

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southeast Connecticut, and there is stuff going on there too.

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I could drive there from where I am in five

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to ten minutes. And so you just look at a map.

455
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Anyone can do this. Look at a map, look at

456
00:26:32.119 --> 00:26:34.480
where there's a lot of wilderness, look at what there's trees,

457
00:26:35.680 --> 00:26:39.880
lots of the thick forest. And the thing is, you

458
00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:43.279
got to go out there at one o'clock, two o'clock,

459
00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:45.640
three o'clock in the morning, just sit there and listen,

460
00:26:46.759 --> 00:26:50.119
and you will hear things like, oh, okay, that's not

461
00:26:50.319 --> 00:26:54.000
any animal that I'm aware of familiar with that sound,

462
00:26:54.839 --> 00:26:57.319
And you just might be hearing some big foot activity.

463
00:26:57.680 --> 00:27:01.359
Because ninety percent of people who have a big foot encounter,

464
00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:07.319
it's gonna be something to hear. If they're lucky enough,

465
00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:10.079
we'll actually see a big foot. But the other ninety

466
00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:13.000
percent are going to hear a bigfoot. And then there's

467
00:27:13.039 --> 00:27:15.279
a few that smell a bigfoot. But you know, I

468
00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:17.759
want to go back to the Monster Quest episode Bigfoot

469
00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:21.599
in New York. Now, when you watch the show, there

470
00:27:21.680 --> 00:27:26.440
was nothing conclusive, no encounters happened. But near the end

471
00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:31.200
of one of our members, Kevin, he actually did have

472
00:27:31.279 --> 00:27:36.599
an encounter. There's a part in the show where I'm

473
00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:39.079
up there on the show that it's funny. I don't

474
00:27:39.079 --> 00:27:41.079
know why they did that, but they called me Tom

475
00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:46.279
Hollywood as we had to fill out forms before the show.

476
00:27:46.359 --> 00:27:47.759
We had to fill out forms and they said, do

477
00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:49.480
you have like a nickname? I said, yeah, well my

478
00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:52.119
nickname is Hollywood. And that goes back because when we

479
00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:55.000
first formed NESRA, another Tom joined the group. So there

480
00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:59.000
are two times. Well okay, well we'll call you Hollywood

481
00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:02.319
so we don't get too confused when we're all talking. Okay,

482
00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:04.440
so that's Tom, and so I know that. Put that

483
00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:06.920
so on the show says Tom Holly was here. And

484
00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:11.319
then Kevin and Corey, two other members of the group,

485
00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:15.960
were stationed like the next station over from me and Dave.

486
00:28:16.759 --> 00:28:21.160
And as as they were sitting there to the night,

487
00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:28.160
Kevin kept getting hit by pine cones. Someone or something

488
00:28:28.279 --> 00:28:32.599
was throwing pine cones at him and he wanted he

489
00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:35.559
wanted his partner Corey to go up there because see

490
00:28:35.559 --> 00:28:37.160
what it is. He wouldn't do it. He said, well,

491
00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:38.920
I'm going to go back down to the camp. So

492
00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:42.759
Kevin starts walking back down towards the main camp and

493
00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:46.279
whatever was throwing the pine cones followed, and so he

494
00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:49.039
finally turns around his moonlight. It's a bright moonlit night,

495
00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:51.799
just like it is tonight, and he looked and he

496
00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:54.200
saw he said, it was like seven and a half

497
00:28:54.279 --> 00:28:57.400
heet tall bigfoot. He said it was. It was behind

498
00:28:57.440 --> 00:28:59.039
a tree and it stepped out from behind the tree

499
00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:02.079
and that's what he saw it. And you see him

500
00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:05.799
on the show talking and he's on camera and he's

501
00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:08.920
a little shaken up by the whole incident. But that happened,

502
00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:13.680
but we didn't we didn't actually tell the Monster Quest people.

503
00:29:13.920 --> 00:29:15.720
Oh yeah, there's a big foot right here. There was

504
00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:17.920
a big foot and concert on that episode, but it

505
00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:20.799
was not shown on the cameras of Monster Quest.

506
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:27.279
That's incredible anyway. Wow, how wild is that? Oh yeah,

507
00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:33.960
it just blows my mind. That is crazy, man. I'm

508
00:29:34.039 --> 00:29:36.960
such a fan of New England bigfoot. So I what

509
00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:40.000
a missed opportunity that wasn't into it when I was

510
00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:40.400
out there.

511
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:41.319
But it is what it is.

512
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:45.000
But have you ever heard of any This is just

513
00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:47.079
shot in the dark, But have you heard of any stuff?

514
00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:50.240
You know, like north central Massachusetts, Like you go up

515
00:29:50.359 --> 00:29:54.720
ninety one through through mass and you're going up to

516
00:29:54.880 --> 00:29:58.359
like Vermont, New Hampshire. Have you ever heard of anything

517
00:29:58.480 --> 00:30:00.880
up there in like that area where it's three states

518
00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:01.559
that come together.

519
00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:11.480
Oh, you mean right around Northfield, mass and Keen, New Hampshire, Right, exactly. Yeah,

520
00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:17.039
I've heard that there's interesting things happen around the Menadnock area. Yes,

521
00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:22.640
I haven't specifically look at it. Actually, for a time there,

522
00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:25.279
I used to drive a race car at Nadnock speed Away.

523
00:30:25.480 --> 00:30:28.279
Oh really, any time, any time I spent it there,

524
00:30:28.319 --> 00:30:30.480
I was driving a race car. But yeah, but I've

525
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:33.799
I've read about the Monadnock area is very interesting, is

526
00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:35.839
what I can put. Has been such a long time

527
00:30:35.880 --> 00:30:38.720
ago I read about. Can you tell us more about Menadnock?

528
00:30:39.759 --> 00:30:41.720
Big for a society who will be right back after

529
00:30:41.799 --> 00:31:01.200
these messages? I mean, well, I'm going to lose a

530
00:31:01.319 --> 00:31:03.720
ton of cred because I grew up in the area

531
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:06.279
and I never went there. I've never hiked it, and

532
00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:09.000
it's like one of the most popular mountains in the world, right,

533
00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:13.759
But regarding Bigfoot, that area I believe is known for

534
00:31:14.039 --> 00:31:17.839
the Marlborough Monkey, which is a group of bigfoot sightings

535
00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:24.000
over in that area, and crash Course Cryptozoology YouTube channel

536
00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:26.480
has done a really good documentary on it. People want

537
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:29.440
to check that out. But yeah, that area is known

538
00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:33.079
for some really interesting bigfoot sightings called the Marlborough Monkey

539
00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:38.400
throughout years. So shot in the dark though about So

540
00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:42.720
Franklin County is the whole Northfield area and I'm like, man,

541
00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:44.640
there's got to be bigfoot stuff, but I just haven't

542
00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:48.480
found the person that knows because it's hard to get

543
00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:50.839
those guys. So if any listeners are like, oh yeah,

544
00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:56.000
I know Franklin County or like Winchester, New Hampshire, Braddleborough

545
00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:59.240
and I know bigfoot stuff, reach out please. I would

546
00:31:59.279 --> 00:32:02.680
love to talk to you about it, just because I

547
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:06.960
grew up there, wild wild stuff. Who else? So, who

548
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:11.400
else was involved with your group on that Monster Quest episode?

549
00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:18.119
Oh well, let's see, oh so long ago. Let's see,

550
00:32:18.200 --> 00:32:21.279
Dave was with me when we were doing the stakeout

551
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:24.640
that night. Kevin and Corey were the ones getting the

552
00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:28.119
pink con stone at them. Let's see Big Daddy Chuck

553
00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:32.440
one of them. He helped to run the base camp.

554
00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:36.559
There's in charge with the base camp. And Steve calls

555
00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:42.119
squatch detective. He was also am of that expedition. Yeah,

556
00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:49.039
and and Chris Chris was his last name from New

557
00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:51.920
York because we were we had members of the Adirondack

558
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:57.559
Bigfoot Society I think it was. And uh, but Chris

559
00:32:57.880 --> 00:32:59.920
Chris is there, and yeah, we had we had a

560
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:01.519
a lot of good people, a lot of good people

561
00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:02.359
on that expedition.

562
00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:10.160
So you started out in New England, but then at

563
00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:14.400
a point you transitioned down to North Carolina. How is

564
00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:17.799
it looking for Bigfoot down there as opposed to looking

565
00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:19.359
for Bigfoot in New England.

566
00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:23.920
Well, here's the funny thing. A few years back, I

567
00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:26.519
don't know, I'd probably say maybe ten years ago or so,

568
00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:31.880
I kind of say I retired from the whole Bigfoot thing,

569
00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:34.880
I you know, moving on doing other things in my life.

570
00:33:34.960 --> 00:33:38.119
And it was interesting the times I had, so I

571
00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:40.599
didn't really give it much thought. And it was in

572
00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:46.720
twenty twenty we moved from Connecticut to North Carolina, mostly

573
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:49.599
because of the whole medical issue that was going on

574
00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:53.119
during that time. And you say, I work getting out

575
00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:56.200
of Connecticut. This is crazy. Things will be better down

576
00:33:56.240 --> 00:33:59.200
in North Carolina, and they certainly were, certainly are. So

577
00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:03.119
we moved to the actually we moved to Asheville. We

578
00:34:03.440 --> 00:34:07.720
bought we bought a camper and we put it on

579
00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:10.400
a campsite. But we lived in an apartment in Asheville.

580
00:34:11.320 --> 00:34:14.639
This was in twenty twenty and in twenty twenty one

581
00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:17.800
we moved out of that apartment. Well this is not

582
00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:21.599
Bigfoot related, but everyone knows what happened. A few weeks

583
00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:25.079
ago the big storm came in and the apartment we

584
00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:29.320
lived in in an Ashville that was underwater. It was

585
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:34.199
two floors these buildings, first floor apartments and second floor apartments.

586
00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:36.000
So we had a first floor apartment. We went back

587
00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:37.960
there and we talked to a woman who lives in

588
00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:39.880
the second floor apartment. Said, oh, yeah, the water was

589
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:44.599
a foot high in my second floor apartment. So anyway,

590
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:48.320
we moved out of Asheville in twenty twenty one and

591
00:34:48.519 --> 00:34:52.480
moved to Maggie Valley. It's a little resort town at

592
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:56.239
the entrance to the Smoky Mountains on the North Carolina side.

593
00:34:56.719 --> 00:35:00.360
Beautiful little town, lots of RV's and camp and so

594
00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:03.519
we have a camper down there. But then we moved.

595
00:35:03.719 --> 00:35:05.800
We were renting out a house in mars Hill because

596
00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:08.840
it was cheaper than where we were renting in Maggie Valley.

597
00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:10.800
The camper at that time was more of like a

598
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:15.159
backup place to go. So Mars Hill is on the

599
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:18.880
border at Tennessee. Maybe we were like a mile and

600
00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:20.800
a half away from the Appalachian Trail, right on the

601
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:28.079
from month the Tennessee North Carolina border. And this is

602
00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:30.360
what I would do. I found this app called the

603
00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:34.320
Sound Recorder that downloaded on my smartphone, my Android phone,

604
00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:38.519
and I was just stick my phone out the window.

605
00:35:38.679 --> 00:35:41.320
And anyone can do this, especially if you live in

606
00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:45.840
a rural area, and you might might not want to

607
00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:48.000
do it because it kind of gets addicting. What you

608
00:35:48.039 --> 00:35:51.639
do is you download this app and it amplifies sounds

609
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:54.280
like crazy, like wow, this is like as good as

610
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:56.880
the Zooon recorder. And I'd stick it out there and

611
00:35:57.000 --> 00:36:01.800
I would hear what knocks. I would here howls, and

612
00:36:01.880 --> 00:36:03.800
I'm just lying in the comfort of my bed, I'm

613
00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:07.280
hearing this big food activity going on up in mars Hill,

614
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:11.719
North Carolina. So then eventually we moved back. We finally

615
00:36:11.800 --> 00:36:14.960
moved into the camper full time in Maggie Valley. Now

616
00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:20.159
Here is something that happened just a couple months ago.

617
00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:26.639
There was a meteor shower August twelve, and I think

618
00:36:26.639 --> 00:36:29.400
it was the Percied Media shower. But anyway, this meteor shower,

619
00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:31.000
I said, oh boy, the metia show. I'm going to

620
00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:32.639
go out at one thirty in the morning in Maggie

621
00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:36.280
Valley and look at the watch of meteors. So I

622
00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:41.960
step out with the camper, go outside, and I just

623
00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:45.400
saw some nice meteors. But I'm hearing a dog bark across.

624
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:47.239
If you look at a map of Maggie Valley, the

625
00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:49.719
main drag is called Soco Road. I live in a

626
00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:52.519
camper on the north side of Soco Road. I hear

627
00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:55.360
dog barking across on the south side of Soco Road,

628
00:36:55.400 --> 00:36:57.440
and it's the mountains on that side of the valley're

629
00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:01.079
called the plot Balsam Mountains. And I'm listening. I said,

630
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:04.400
there's another animal making sound and that's what a dog's barking.

631
00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:09.840
And as I'm listening, I said, holy crap, that's a

632
00:37:09.880 --> 00:37:13.880
bigfoot and that's why did the dog is barkin so

633
00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:18.239
I jump in my van, I drive over closer to

634
00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:20.840
where the sun is coming from. I'm right near a

635
00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:24.239
Maggie Valley town hall now, and I just let my

636
00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:27.239
recorder run and recorded the sounds. And this is on

637
00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:31.960
my channel, my YouTube channel now Blue Edge Bigfoot. And

638
00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:36.960
there is a story about a creature or a man,

639
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:39.360
depending on how you want to look at it. That's

640
00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:43.440
called the Boojum. In fact, in Waynesville, North Carolina, that's

641
00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:46.840
the next town over they have Boujim Brewery. And the

642
00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:51.400
legend of the Boojum goes something like this. Around nineteen hundred,

643
00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:56.440
guy bought the top of a mountain there right at

644
00:37:56.480 --> 00:37:59.239
the end of the plot Baalsams. He bought the property

645
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:02.800
and he wanted to build a hotel, so he had

646
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:04.800
to have a road cleared all the way to the

647
00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:07.679
top of the mountain, cleared the land, and built this

648
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:11.000
big old honkin hotel up on top. It's called Eagle

649
00:38:11.159 --> 00:38:14.159
Nest Ridge. And you can look at that on the

650
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:17.280
map and see where it was. So this is nineteen

651
00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:20.519
around nineteen hundred he built this. And after the hotel

652
00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:24.480
was built, people hear all kinds of weird howls and

653
00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:28.760
who and out in the forest around the hotel. So

654
00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:34.920
somehow the story came up, Oh, that's the Boojum. And

655
00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:39.480
the Boojum was it was described as a seven foot

656
00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:44.119
tall man covered in hair. He was ugly, and they

657
00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:46.519
said he liked the spy on the women when they

658
00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:49.400
were taking baths, and the creeks and the streams around

659
00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:54.280
the area, and he liked to find rubies and other

660
00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:56.920
gemstones in the area and go hide and away in

661
00:38:56.960 --> 00:39:01.280
a cave. But to me, yes, okay, that's a big

662
00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:03.320
but I don't know about the part about rubies and

663
00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:06.719
gems and hiding them. But the big, tall, ugly hairy

664
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:10.440
man maybe spying, maybe spying on women. Maybe not. Okay,

665
00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:13.039
that to me sounds like a bigfoot story, just like

666
00:39:13.079 --> 00:39:17.519
the wild Man story. So then the legend goes, but

667
00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:21.760
this one woman didn't really mind him spying on him,

668
00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:24.599
I mean, spying on her past. She has taken him back.

669
00:39:24.679 --> 00:39:29.159
Her name was Annie. So the legend goes that whenever

670
00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:32.239
Boujiam would be out in the forest somewhere out in

671
00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:37.320
the mountains is Annie would start hooting for him. So

672
00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:42.480
they called her Hoot and Annie and she would hoot,

673
00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:45.840
And then the Boujiam would hoot her holler back, so

674
00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:48.039
the two of them would be communicating with each other.

675
00:39:49.199 --> 00:39:52.000
So when I when I heard this sound back in August,

676
00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:55.800
I said, oh wow, I'm hearing either the boujam or

677
00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:57.440
hoot and Annie that they've been talking about for the

678
00:39:57.480 --> 00:40:02.280
past two hundred let's see hundred and twenty years. One

679
00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:04.719
hundred and twenty years this has been going on. So

680
00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:07.480
I recorded it and it's on my on my channel

681
00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:11.320
Blue Ridge Bigfoot. I got one called who and Nanny

682
00:40:11.400 --> 00:40:13.960
and just just listen to it and tell me what

683
00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:17.239
you think. But that was I was recorded with my phone.

684
00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:18.679
I just let it sit on top of my van.

685
00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:20.960
I sat there and after a while I said, you know,

686
00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:22.679
I didn't see if I can drive closer to it.

687
00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:25.320
So I started up my van. I drove around up

688
00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:28.239
into the neighborhood where it was coming from up the

689
00:40:28.280 --> 00:40:29.840
side of the mountain to see if I get closer.

690
00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:32.320
But I'm thinking I'm driving my van. I got my

691
00:40:32.400 --> 00:40:34.400
windows down. All I can hear is my van. Now

692
00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:37.000
I really can't hear anything. I didn't want to stop

693
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:39.360
and park in front of someone's house. You know, people

694
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:40.760
out there will come out with your shock and hey,

695
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:43.280
what are you doing? So I drove back down and

696
00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:48.280
I got some recording and that's actually here's something else

697
00:40:48.320 --> 00:40:52.960
that happened four days later. This was a Sunday night,

698
00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:56.159
Monday morning when I made the recording. Four days later,

699
00:40:56.199 --> 00:40:59.280
it was Friday. One of my neighbors in the RV

700
00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:05.360
park we're we are her sister and another a resident

701
00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:07.320
of the park. We're walking their dogs in this little

702
00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:09.960
park right around the corner from us, right across Soko

703
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:14.280
Road from where I was hearing the sounds. And at

704
00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:16.079
one side of the park there's a big hill in

705
00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:20.880
it's all forest. The name of the park something like

706
00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:24.719
roof something park. But anyway, I'll tell you what. If

707
00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:26.599
you want to look this up on the map, look

708
00:41:26.679 --> 00:41:30.320
up Maggie Valley Storage Solutions on a map on Google.

709
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:33.079
You'll see where that is. And then to the right

710
00:41:33.159 --> 00:41:35.599
of it, you'll see the little park and you'll see

711
00:41:35.639 --> 00:41:40.000
this hill that's covered with trees. It's very steep. At

712
00:41:40.039 --> 00:41:44.039
the bottom of the hill where the park is, right

713
00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:48.000
on the border between the park and the forest, there's

714
00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:51.639
a bunch of grapes, a bunch of grape vines strung up,

715
00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:55.119
but there's a little track people walk the dogs. So anyway,

716
00:41:55.519 --> 00:41:59.559
they were walking their dogs on this track, she said,

717
00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:06.360
something huge started growling at them from inside the woods

718
00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:08.840
right at the edge of the woods there. Their little

719
00:42:08.920 --> 00:42:11.559
dogs got scared. Then he got out of there, and

720
00:42:11.960 --> 00:42:14.519
so I swear to it was a bigfoot. She said

721
00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:17.880
she never heard anything growl that loud before in her life.

722
00:42:19.320 --> 00:42:23.480
And putting putting the pieces together, you know, the sounds

723
00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:24.719
like bigfoot activity to me.

724
00:42:27.239 --> 00:42:30.079
It's wild, I mean. And the video you'd been talking

725
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:32.000
about before, that's the one that you had sent over

726
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:32.639
to me right.

727
00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:39.320
With the recordings. Yes, yes, I got one called who

728
00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:43.320
and Nannie where it does the Yahoo three times. I'm

729
00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:45.800
playing the same recording over three times because you know,

730
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:48.159
it's one Yahoo, so you can hear it three times.

731
00:42:48.199 --> 00:42:52.559
We'll keep rewinding it. And then the other one is

732
00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:57.039
the longer one where it starts making all those noises,

733
00:42:57.119 --> 00:42:59.880
then the dog barks and then it growls at the top.

734
00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:04.360
Yeah, yeah, it's pretty awesome. I'll definitely have it in

735
00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:09.800
the description or show notes, which is people know where

736
00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:10.239
to find that.

737
00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:11.880
Have you been so.

738
00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:17.920
We kind of mentioned about a few weeks ago there

739
00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:21.880
was the hurricane. Definitely need to address it. Haven't really

740
00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:24.000
addressed it on the show yet. Have you been down

741
00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:25.599
to that area since that's happened.

742
00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:29.000
Oh, we were there when it was happening.

743
00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:31.039
Oh you were okay, Wow.

744
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:35.840
Yeah, I'll tell you I am. Another feel of interest

745
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:39.159
to me is weather. Yeah, and when it Tucker was

746
00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:41.519
coming in. Even before that, this is what was going on.

747
00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:44.119
We were getting rain for two days already before the

748
00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:48.239
hurricane even got there. And as the hurricane started coming

749
00:43:48.320 --> 00:43:51.239
up the coast of Florida, before it even made landfall,

750
00:43:51.519 --> 00:43:55.119
the upper outflow from the hurricane started interacting with this

751
00:43:55.360 --> 00:43:57.679
cold front that had moved in and was causing rain,

752
00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:00.320
which just piled more rain on top of it. When

753
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:04.559
the hurricane finally hit, it just dumped that last foot

754
00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:07.760
of rain. There were places in the area that got

755
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:12.960
over three feet of rain within those three days. And

756
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:16.119
we were really lucky where we are in Maggie Valley

757
00:44:16.119 --> 00:44:18.280
because we were up near the top end of the

758
00:44:18.400 --> 00:44:21.880
valley where the creek, the main creek is called Jonathan Creek,

759
00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:25.519
flows downwards. So obviously the higher up you are the

760
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:28.320
better off. But as you go down this were more

761
00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:31.199
and more flooding. The land in front of us. Our

762
00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:34.480
Harvey Park was flooding. Our camper was up like a

763
00:44:34.519 --> 00:44:37.519
couple feet higher, and then one camper at the end

764
00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:39.599
he ended up like in the middle of a pond.

765
00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:42.199
His camp was surrounded. The water started pulling up underneath

766
00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:45.800
our camper. But it was at that point that, okay,

767
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:48.559
the water started finally receding. It was getting really close

768
00:44:48.599 --> 00:44:51.639
to us. But we got lucky. Nothing happened to us.

769
00:44:51.880 --> 00:44:53.760
But there are so many people who were not lucky

770
00:44:53.800 --> 00:44:57.239
at all. And the news reports are saying, oh, they've

771
00:44:57.800 --> 00:45:01.639
identified two hundred and thirty five dead or whatever. No,

772
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:06.760
I'll tell you right now. Thousands of people got them.

773
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:11.719
They were just these massive mud and trees and boulders

774
00:45:11.800 --> 00:45:16.519
came rushing down these mountains. And there's this town called

775
00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:20.360
Chimney Rock by Lake Lore. There's a movie called Let's

776
00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:24.280
See Well, Dirty Dancing was filmed there. Last of the

777
00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:28.119
Mohicans was filmed there. Beautiful, beautiful spot.

778
00:45:28.639 --> 00:45:31.400
Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages?

779
00:45:47.480 --> 00:45:50.159
We have been there in the past. They have places

780
00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:52.920
called wiped out then up in north of Asheville. Like

781
00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:56.239
I said, Asheville itself got hit hard. North of Asheville,

782
00:45:56.440 --> 00:46:00.800
up near Mars Hill, Spruce Pine, Burnsville. That area got

783
00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:05.760
hit hard. Is just is just you can't it's so terrible.

784
00:46:06.599 --> 00:46:09.599
Just mud. There is just this big mud and debris

785
00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:13.880
just came and it covered everything. Uh. They have these

786
00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:16.840
dogs are called cadaver dogs, and they go look see

787
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:19.039
if they can sniff out of dead body and they'll signal, okay,

788
00:46:19.039 --> 00:46:21.360
there's one here. They'll plant the flag in the ground

789
00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:23.800
there and then move on to next plant another flag.

790
00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:29.159
Bason was the other Burnsville or Spruce Pine. There was

791
00:46:29.239 --> 00:46:32.480
this big mud and debris field that the dogs found

792
00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:36.840
over one hundred spots where they planted flags. And that's

793
00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:41.320
just that one area. Now they're finding bodies and trees.

794
00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:45.239
And I told you about our apartment. The water got

795
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:47.440
so higher our apartment in Nashville that the second floor

796
00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:48.360
apartments were flooding.

797
00:46:48.639 --> 00:46:53.719
Yeah, I'm sure you're familiar with what is the best

798
00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:57.840
way to Is there an organization that's better to try

799
00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:02.159
to donate to for efforts than others? I'm guessing.

800
00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:10.360
Well, they are very well known popular ones, right, I

801
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:14.239
would not recommend right, I mean, the best results were

802
00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:16.920
just from the people down there just rolling up their

803
00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:20.800
sleeves and doing it themselves, but doing what they can

804
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:23.239
where they where they could do it, how they could

805
00:47:23.239 --> 00:47:28.400
do it. You know, the other organizations are just bureaucracies,

806
00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:33.079
and you know they like to grandstand say, oh look

807
00:47:33.119 --> 00:47:35.679
at us, here we are, we're here to save the day. Well,

808
00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:38.360
you want to save the day, you start shoveling out

809
00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:41.239
and see if we can, you know, help put these

810
00:47:41.320 --> 00:47:42.559
people's lives back together.

811
00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:46.440
Oh absolutely, yeah, I agree, one hundred percent. I'd say

812
00:47:46.519 --> 00:47:50.199
that the focus right now definitely needs to be on

813
00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:56.000
helping people people in that area try to get some

814
00:47:57.559 --> 00:48:01.679
normalcy of life back. It just it has to mean.

815
00:48:01.719 --> 00:48:04.760
It's going to take a long long time. It's going

816
00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:09.559
to affect everything, all parts of life for you. One

817
00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:11.840
of the main things you do in that area when

818
00:48:11.880 --> 00:48:16.760
you're down there is to research bigfoot. Have you already

819
00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:21.599
started to think of how this will affect how you

820
00:48:21.880 --> 00:48:26.280
go about trying to look for bigfoot down in these areas.

821
00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:31.280
Well? Other than roads being cut off because you know,

822
00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:35.000
roads doesn't get flooded over, roads got washed away, roads

823
00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:38.920
bridges got washed away. And you know it's one thing, Yeah,

824
00:48:38.920 --> 00:48:40.800
a bridge gets washed away, you build a new bridge,

825
00:48:41.239 --> 00:48:45.039
But when entire road gets washed away, you have to

826
00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:48.840
engineer an entire new road if you can, to take

827
00:48:48.880 --> 00:48:51.920
its place, which is is totally different from replacing a bridge.

828
00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:57.679
So getting around is actually the toughest thing. Okay, Well,

829
00:48:58.320 --> 00:49:01.840
for example I forty, you know, I've driven back and

830
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:05.880
forth on I forty between North Carolina and Tennessee quite

831
00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:09.079
a few dozen times and took it for granted. That's

832
00:49:09.119 --> 00:49:12.000
closed for over a year because the Pigeon River just

833
00:49:12.199 --> 00:49:15.159
washed out from underneath it. It rode it underneath it

834
00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:19.280
where the entire eastbound side of it collapsed into the river,

835
00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:22.840
and it was a narrow enough to gorge as it

836
00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:25.239
is now. They're gonna have to figure out how we're

837
00:49:25.239 --> 00:49:26.960
going to rebuild this, and it's going to be closed

838
00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:30.639
at least a year, and that has affected traffic immensely,

839
00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:33.159
you know, truck traffic because I twenty six is going

840
00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:35.400
to be closed for a few months. A couple of

841
00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:38.880
sections of I twenty six between actually in the Tennessee

842
00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:42.880
side Irwin, Tennessee, who was destroyed. That's going to take

843
00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:47.280
a few months to repair. So that's affected commerce and travel.

844
00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:50.840
So Asheville, Ashville is like at this crossroads of I

845
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:56.400
twenty six, and I forty from the east the Charlotte direction,

846
00:49:57.679 --> 00:50:01.480
it's open. From the south towards Spartan, South Carolina, that's open.

847
00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:05.800
But going west towards Tennessee, you're going north towards Tennessee.

848
00:50:06.119 --> 00:50:09.679
Those are both closed down. And it's just it's just

849
00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:13.039
one big disaster. It's gonna take so long. Some people

850
00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:15.000
will never get back to normal. They will never know

851
00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:20.280
normal life again. You know, where they've lived their entire lives, families, generations,

852
00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:22.719
they've lived there and owned that it's just gone. It's

853
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:23.360
just all gone.

854
00:50:26.920 --> 00:50:32.239
It's a thing where that I think will be just

855
00:50:32.400 --> 00:50:37.679
trying to analyze it and understand it, that the real

856
00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:41.079
effects of it for just for years probably. And I

857
00:50:41.119 --> 00:50:43.320
mean I'm not even down there, you know, I'm in

858
00:50:43.400 --> 00:50:49.320
the Midwest, so I mean you can go on TikTok though,

859
00:50:49.400 --> 00:50:52.599
and you know, some people don't like the app and

860
00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:55.519
it's that's whatever, but it's like one of the places

861
00:50:55.519 --> 00:50:58.000
where you could actually see the video of what was

862
00:50:58.079 --> 00:51:02.280
going on, you know that and Twitter x whatever. But yeah,

863
00:51:03.920 --> 00:51:07.960
I think it'll also be a thing where we will

864
00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:13.159
be hearing stories of the event probably for years, you know,

865
00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:17.719
just as you know, people start to get internet back

866
00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:23.800
and have you Oh man, I am trying to figure

867
00:51:23.840 --> 00:51:27.440
out how to So I'm just going to come out out.

868
00:51:27.599 --> 00:51:31.239
Have you heard of any accounts from that area that

869
00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:34.920
was affected by flooding in the hurricane, of any sightings

870
00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:35.800
or anything.

871
00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:40.119
Like that, sightings as a bigfoot sighting?

872
00:51:40.320 --> 00:51:45.840
Yeah, yeah, No, No I haven't, have you No, No,

873
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:47.679
I haven't. And it's a thing where it's like it

874
00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:52.360
just gets brought up. I've been, I've been. Just it's

875
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:54.480
a thing where it's been brought up in a lot

876
00:51:54.519 --> 00:51:59.239
of different platforms, and I think people are just entirely

877
00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:02.559
they're focused on if you're focused on that, I mean,

878
00:52:02.599 --> 00:52:04.719
your focus needs to be on helping the people right now,

879
00:52:04.840 --> 00:52:07.760
right But it just we keep seeing or I keep

880
00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:11.239
seeing this thing pop up where it's like, oh, what

881
00:52:12.239 --> 00:52:16.880
did anyone find a bigfoot floating down the river? And

882
00:52:17.000 --> 00:52:20.760
it's like, well, guys, that's a valid question, but like

883
00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:24.159
maybe we can The focus doesn't need to be on

884
00:52:24.239 --> 00:52:26.760
that right now. But I guess it is a valid question.

885
00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:30.880
But I think maybe we'll hear about that in years

886
00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:32.840
to come, but probably not right now.

887
00:52:33.360 --> 00:52:37.199
So well, I'll put it this way, I personally have

888
00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:39.880
not heard anything about that. Well, I'll tell you what

889
00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:43.360
I have heard about. Something that happened a long time

890
00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:48.519
ago was Mount Saint Helen's And now when Mount Saint

891
00:52:48.599 --> 00:52:52.960
Helens er upted that they retrieved a lot of bodies.

892
00:52:56.639 --> 00:53:00.400
That is it's interesting you bring that up, because it's like,

893
00:53:01.760 --> 00:53:08.199
I feel that this scenario has the It could easily

894
00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:14.519
become the next Mount Saint Helen's Bigfoot campfire story for

895
00:53:14.679 --> 00:53:16.360
the next twenty thirty years.

896
00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:16.880
You know.

897
00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:19.559
It just like keeps getting brought up and people are like,

898
00:53:19.639 --> 00:53:22.199
what about this, or like, oh, I totally saw this,

899
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:25.960
or one of my buddies saw this as well. Yeah,

900
00:53:26.039 --> 00:53:28.440
Mount Saint Helens is still talked about to this day.

901
00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:30.400
And I mean it's been how many years it's been,

902
00:53:31.760 --> 00:53:35.400
what forty years it's been It's been.

903
00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:38.000
A while, yea, over forty years.

904
00:53:38.239 --> 00:53:42.920
Every every week I get emails in my in my

905
00:53:43.079 --> 00:53:47.119
inbox about hey, what about this or is this a thing?

906
00:53:47.280 --> 00:53:50.719
And like, well, I mean, well to shout out Steve Calls.

907
00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:54.400
We talked about Steve Calls earlier. His Show's Squads Detective

908
00:53:54.440 --> 00:53:59.599
actually did a really good investigative look into the possibilities

909
00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:03.960
of of if Mount Saint Helen's Bigfoot could actually be

910
00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:07.679
a thing, and it's definitely worth checking out if listeners

911
00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:12.079
haven't watched that on his YouTube channel yet. But yeah,

912
00:54:12.400 --> 00:54:14.440
I don't know. I think who knows what will come

913
00:54:14.480 --> 00:54:16.880
in the future, But right now, we need to help

914
00:54:17.119 --> 00:54:20.119
the people that are affected in that area, which would

915
00:54:20.119 --> 00:54:23.239
be the main area is effective, would be east of

916
00:54:23.880 --> 00:54:25.719
where you're located down there, right.

917
00:54:27.320 --> 00:54:29.559
Yeah, And that's pretty much the result of the way

918
00:54:29.639 --> 00:54:32.480
the storm came up. Yeah, as the storm was coming

919
00:54:32.800 --> 00:54:37.199
up through Florida and Georgia, they kept showing its tracking

920
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:40.239
to the northwest, going up through Georgia and into Tennessee.

921
00:54:41.280 --> 00:54:43.480
But I was watching and I say, it's not making

922
00:54:43.559 --> 00:54:46.440
that turn to the west. It's just coming straight up

923
00:54:47.480 --> 00:54:50.920
Georgia straight into South Carolina and eventually came straight over

924
00:54:51.119 --> 00:54:54.199
us and we got actually, we were lucky to get

925
00:54:54.239 --> 00:54:58.039
the eye in Maggie Valley. First of all, we're kind

926
00:54:58.079 --> 00:55:01.440
of protected being down in the valley. But that brought

927
00:55:01.559 --> 00:55:04.280
the bulk of the eastern edge of the storm and

928
00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:08.599
the rain up through Lake Lore Chimney Rock up through Asheville,

929
00:55:08.760 --> 00:55:13.639
up into Madison and Yancey Counties north of Ashville, and

930
00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:19.159
then it wrapped around into Irwin, Tennessee. In Greenville, Greenville, Tennessee,

931
00:55:19.400 --> 00:55:22.719
Green County, Tennessee, they lost a few bridges from the flooding.

932
00:55:23.960 --> 00:55:25.920
And yeah, so it was the track of the storm

933
00:55:25.960 --> 00:55:27.039
made a huge difference.

934
00:55:29.760 --> 00:55:32.239
Oh, absolutely, it's just exact.

935
00:55:32.599 --> 00:55:35.159
They weren't expecting that. In Nashville, no one was expecting it,

936
00:55:35.559 --> 00:55:39.440
especially what happened. No one's ever seen anything like it before.

937
00:55:40.119 --> 00:55:42.559
Three feet of rain within seventy two hours. No one's

938
00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:43.519
ever seen anything like that.

939
00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:48.519
I'm looking at a map right now, and I'm realizing

940
00:55:48.719 --> 00:55:53.639
how well, I'm not sure how far the distance is,

941
00:55:53.719 --> 00:55:57.239
but you are that Maggie Valley area is actually to

942
00:55:57.400 --> 00:55:57.960
the west of it.

943
00:55:58.159 --> 00:55:58.320
Is that?

944
00:55:59.000 --> 00:56:01.480
And I know, I'm gonna sure the name not not

945
00:56:01.639 --> 00:56:03.679
a Dahala National Forest.

946
00:56:04.840 --> 00:56:06.519
Not Natahala? Yeah?

947
00:56:06.599 --> 00:56:09.440
Yeah, is that anything Nantahala?

948
00:56:09.679 --> 00:56:10.280
Nantahala.

949
00:56:10.760 --> 00:56:14.039
Have you ever gone over there personally to check that out?

950
00:56:14.119 --> 00:56:17.320
Yeah? No, I did. I was traveling out there to

951
00:56:17.760 --> 00:56:20.480
buy something at a store. I said, you know, what

952
00:56:20.599 --> 00:56:22.800
is close enough where I'm going to go park here,

953
00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:24.920
I'm going to take a little hike into the woods,

954
00:56:26.360 --> 00:56:27.840
just so I could say I was there, And yeah,

955
00:56:28.400 --> 00:56:31.119
I was there. I was there for about half an hour.

956
00:56:31.159 --> 00:56:32.800
Looked around. Hey, this is nice night, and I got

957
00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:37.239
back in my car. Lift. But yeah, did Pisga Cherokee Forest,

958
00:56:37.559 --> 00:56:42.079
the whole Smoky In National Forest. That that's like our

959
00:56:42.119 --> 00:56:44.239
equivalent of the Pacific Northwest, if you want to put

960
00:56:44.280 --> 00:56:44.760
it that way.

961
00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:47.639
Oh okay, because it all kind of goes together, right.

962
00:56:49.039 --> 00:56:52.639
Yeah, yeah, if you look look at that western tail

963
00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:55.280
end of North Carolina that we kind of like tapers

964
00:56:55.360 --> 00:56:59.360
down between Tennessee and Georgia, then you go into the

965
00:56:59.400 --> 00:57:03.840
Tennessee at speaking of the Tennessee side, I have also

966
00:57:04.639 --> 00:57:06.559
been in contact and have gone out a couple of

967
00:57:06.599 --> 00:57:07.920
times with Harley Owens.

968
00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:13.800
Oh great, great friend. Yeah, Harley is such a good guy.

969
00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:18.679
Yeah, and he is in Newport and Newport got flooded

970
00:57:18.719 --> 00:57:24.360
downtown Newpork also got flooded. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've been

971
00:57:24.440 --> 00:57:27.159
out a couple of times with him, and some really

972
00:57:27.239 --> 00:57:30.119
interesting stuff going on in the areas that he brought me.

973
00:57:30.239 --> 00:57:33.360
To put it that way, Yeah, we talked quite a bit,

974
00:57:33.440 --> 00:57:37.039
and this is just guys talking, you know, like not

975
00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:39.440
for the podcast or anything like. We'll talk quite a bit.

976
00:57:39.599 --> 00:57:44.679
And the stuff he gets himself into is absolutely intense

977
00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:47.400
in that area. So I don't know how much of

978
00:57:47.480 --> 00:57:50.159
that you were involved, but you I mean, that's just

979
00:57:50.440 --> 00:57:52.360
he gets into some wild stuff out there.

980
00:57:53.960 --> 00:57:58.320
Well, that one time we were up there together and

981
00:57:58.920 --> 00:58:02.719
we we went in different ways. Okay, I'm gonna go

982
00:58:02.800 --> 00:58:05.519
this way, you go that way, And once we got separated,

983
00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:10.239
he started getting stones thrown at him. For another happened

984
00:58:10.280 --> 00:58:13.559
a while when they wanted away from the be alone.

985
00:58:13.599 --> 00:58:17.280
I guess, right, was that was that in the he

986
00:58:17.440 --> 00:58:20.800
has an area where it used to be Scott's. Was

987
00:58:20.880 --> 00:58:23.039
that the same location?

988
00:58:23.639 --> 00:58:28.119
I believe? So I believe that is the sun area. Yeah,

989
00:58:28.119 --> 00:58:32.039
that's very interesting. Yeah, and I'm looking now. Because of

990
00:58:32.119 --> 00:58:35.480
the road closers, it's it's really hard for me to

991
00:58:35.519 --> 00:58:41.159
get out there from from the north. Yeah, I'd have

992
00:58:41.239 --> 00:58:46.519
to pretty much take the the scenic route through the

993
00:58:47.199 --> 00:58:51.360
Great Smokey National Forest to come out in Gatlinburg instead

994
00:58:51.360 --> 00:58:53.400
of you know, zipping over on the highway, which is

995
00:58:53.559 --> 00:58:56.840
really easy. Yeah. Yeah, I've taken that road and it's

996
00:58:56.920 --> 00:58:58.840
it's not fun. It's a lot of twists and turns,

997
00:58:58.920 --> 00:59:00.840
ups and downs and tell on your break.

998
00:59:00.920 --> 00:59:03.760
So I put it that way, I bet absolutely.

999
00:59:05.960 --> 00:59:08.440
Oh. One thing I wanted to add Kevin from Extra

1000
00:59:08.639 --> 00:59:12.360
in the Monster Quest episode. He has a YouTube and

1001
00:59:12.559 --> 00:59:17.480
I told him I plug it. It's called Northeastern xped

1002
00:59:17.840 --> 00:59:20.519
which I believe is short for expedition. So if you

1003
00:59:20.559 --> 00:59:25.119
look up Northeastern exped E xp D, you'll find a

1004
00:59:25.159 --> 00:59:28.719
lot of interesting videos on his channel. And he's still

1005
00:59:28.760 --> 00:59:31.440
out there. Every every week he's doing something new. And

1006
00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:34.960
now not only did he have his encounter on Monsterquest,

1007
00:59:35.000 --> 00:59:39.639
he's also had visual encounters up in Vermont, and he

1008
00:59:39.760 --> 00:59:42.800
told me that the one he saw in Vermont was humongous.

1009
00:59:43.400 --> 00:59:46.800
Is the way, but it is huge. Wow.

1010
00:59:47.559 --> 00:59:50.639
Vermont is also another state I have not gotten a

1011
00:59:50.719 --> 00:59:54.559
lot of people to talk about. So that's that's very interesting.

1012
00:59:54.719 --> 00:59:58.280
But what is what's your your future goals with with

1013
00:59:58.440 --> 00:59:59.519
your bigfoot research?

1014
00:59:59.679 --> 01:00:04.039
Tom? Well, this is the interesting thing. Like I said,

1015
01:00:04.079 --> 01:00:06.840
I was kind of retired, but once I moved to

1016
01:00:06.920 --> 01:00:09.840
North Carolina and I said, there's there's like a lot

1017
01:00:09.920 --> 01:00:12.960
of people stuff going on like right here, it kind

1018
01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:14.920
of kind of sucked me back into it. I wasn't

1019
01:00:14.960 --> 01:00:17.440
expecting to do it, but it did. I said, Okay,

1020
01:00:17.480 --> 01:00:19.719
so I'm kind of easing myself back in. I think

1021
01:00:19.719 --> 01:00:21.880
it's really nice when two months ago one comes right

1022
01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:24.000
down and starts doing vocalizations for you. I didn't have

1023
01:00:24.039 --> 01:00:26.400
to go anywhere, and let's see and then you know,

1024
01:00:26.559 --> 01:00:29.800
meeting people like Harley and see George Lunsford and then

1025
01:00:29.840 --> 01:00:34.079
in contacted him a couple of times. She lives in

1026
01:00:34.119 --> 01:00:38.440
West Asheville. Yeah, so it's it's nice to meeting fellow

1027
01:00:38.559 --> 01:00:42.000
researchers in this area, network with a couple of them now,

1028
01:00:42.519 --> 01:00:44.880
So you know, I was just let's just see how

1029
01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:48.119
things go now with what happened with the storm, it's

1030
01:00:48.199 --> 01:00:50.280
going to be a while before things could get back to,

1031
01:00:50.760 --> 01:00:53.800
you know where where they were just just a month ago,

1032
01:00:54.639 --> 01:00:56.880
as far as they jump in the car and go here,

1033
01:00:57.039 --> 01:01:01.519
And I just can't really do that now, So things

1034
01:01:01.559 --> 01:01:04.119
are kind of like on hold or maybe toned down.

1035
01:01:04.440 --> 01:01:06.960
I should put it for the time being. But while

1036
01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:09.400
I'm up here in Connecticut, I've got quite a few

1037
01:01:09.400 --> 01:01:11.599
places to check out before we head back down to

1038
01:01:11.639 --> 01:01:12.280
North Carolina.

1039
01:01:13.519 --> 01:01:18.280
Absolutely, Tom, it has been just a real privilege to

1040
01:01:18.679 --> 01:01:21.239
talk to you. Do you mind and thank you for

1041
01:01:21.360 --> 01:01:23.440
being on the show. Do you mind taking a few

1042
01:01:23.480 --> 01:01:27.360
minutes just to remind viewers again how they can best

1043
01:01:27.639 --> 01:01:30.119
keep up to date with what you're doing, and is

1044
01:01:30.159 --> 01:01:31.880
there a way that they can reach out to you

1045
01:01:31.920 --> 01:01:35.840
if they have questions about these areas or reports to

1046
01:01:36.760 --> 01:01:37.119
send to you.

1047
01:01:39.960 --> 01:01:44.079
I I'll tell you what I am going to I'm

1048
01:01:44.119 --> 01:01:47.679
going to make up a new email addresser right here

1049
01:01:48.360 --> 01:01:50.880
on the fly, off the top of my head. I'm

1050
01:01:50.920 --> 01:01:59.840
going to call it blue Ridge Bigfoot at mail dot com. Nice,

1051
01:02:01.599 --> 01:02:05.840
and that's I Gmail dot com, not not any other

1052
01:02:06.440 --> 01:02:09.159
just plain old mail m A I L dot com,

1053
01:02:09.239 --> 01:02:12.360
Blue Ridge Bigfoot at mail dot com and go ahead

1054
01:02:12.440 --> 01:02:15.599
email me there. I gotta hurry up and make it. Actually,

1055
01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:17.480
I'm gonna check the see if it's available. I'm saying

1056
01:02:17.519 --> 01:02:21.639
it's gonna be a I'm thinking I really doubt that

1057
01:02:21.760 --> 01:02:23.800
there's a blue Ridge Bigfoot at mail dot com.

1058
01:02:23.960 --> 01:02:26.960
Yeah, you're probably okay, but you never know.

1059
01:02:28.400 --> 01:02:30.800
Go ahead send an email to there. If the bounces

1060
01:02:30.920 --> 01:02:33.039
or someone else answers said, oh who are you? I

1061
01:02:33.039 --> 01:02:36.519
don't know who's do that. We'll go with a blue

1062
01:02:36.639 --> 01:02:40.039
Ridge Bigfoot at mail dot com. In my YouTube channel

1063
01:02:40.400 --> 01:02:43.800
see my videos blue Ridge Bigfoot. Check out Kevin's channel

1064
01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:48.320
Northeastern Expaed and yeah, we got a we got a

1065
01:02:48.320 --> 01:02:50.280
whole lot of bigfoot stuff going on here in New England.

1066
01:02:52.679 --> 01:02:55.440
Fantastic Tom. Thank you again for coming on the show.

1067
01:02:55.519 --> 01:02:58.119
We'll definitely keep an eye on what you're doing through

1068
01:02:58.159 --> 01:03:00.599
your Bigfoot channel and we'll have to check in with

1069
01:03:00.760 --> 01:03:01.559
you in the future.

1070
01:03:03.800 --> 01:03:06.199
Yeah, that sounds good, Jeremia, and thank you for having me.

1071
01:03:07.800 --> 01:03:10.519
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