Nov. 15, 2024

Bigfoot Encounters of East Tennessee!

Heather from East Tennessee shares her eerie encounters near Norris Lake, Frozen Head State Park, and Smokemont Campground. From observing mysterious lights and hearing strange growls, to experiencing voids of silence and potential...

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Season 1

Heather from East Tennessee shares her eerie encounters near Norris Lake, Frozen Head State Park, and Smokemont Campground. From observing mysterious lights and hearing strange growls, to experiencing voids of silence and potential infrasound—Heather’s stories delve into the unexplained phenomena she and her family have faced. As she recounts these unsettling experiences, Heather explores the possibility of Bigfoot's involvement and the true nature of these extraordinary events. Dive into this riveting episode to uncover the mysteries lurking in East Tennessee's wilderness.

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all right, pickfoot Society. I've got the privilege of talking

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to Heather today. Heather's an individual from East Tennessee who

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reached out to me about some really interesting things that

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are going on down there that she's been experiencing. Heather,

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welcome to the show.

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Hi, Jeremiah, thank you.

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So we were talking a few minutes into the pre show,

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and it sounds like this could get this get very interesting.

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I'm excited to hear it, just because I'm always looking

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into East Tennessee friends with a lot of people down there,

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especially a good friend. We were talking about Harley Allens

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and how he's into all sources of stuff down there.

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So yeah, I can't wait to look into some of

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his stuff.

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Oh absolutely, But I would say, Heather, let's go ahead

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and take us to where we need to know all

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the details about where we're looking at and how this

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all started happening for you.

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Okay, going back to even when I was a little kid,

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I was super interested in cryptids and the paranormal, and

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I just I didn't know much about anything until later

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on in life.

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As a teenager.

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We always grew up camping and we had boats, so

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we were always boating, and we had a houseboat. We

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would take our houseboat out into the coves of North

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Lake here in East Tennessee. We would camp and hike

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and whatever. One thing that comes to my mind is

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taking our houseboat out on Norris Lake. We would park

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in coves. We would just pick a cove. We had

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our favorite cove, which was probably between It was in

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the Anderson County type area. We would park out there

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for a long weekend. And one one weekend we were

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parked my dad and I. This is in the evening time,

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so my dad and I were fishing off of the

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front of the houseboat. We had two friends with us.

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The two friends and my sister were on the back

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of the boat. My dad and I were on the front.

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My mom had already gone to bed, so it was

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dark by this point. I was maybe fourteen sanish fifteen,

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maybe years old, and all of a sudden, this big

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ball of blue white, maybe the size of a softball

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from my memory, came flying out of the woods. If

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you think about it, we're in the middle of basically

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nowhere you might see a house here and there, but

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it's mostly wooded area. This big ball of light came

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flying and stopped and floated right in front of our

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house boat. Dad and I were looking at each other,

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what is this? Oh my gosh, We're just looking at

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each other in shock. What could this possibly be? So

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by the time we got to look at it, and

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it almost seemed like it was looking at us. I

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don't know, it flew back off into the woods, and.

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After that we were like, Oh, my gosh.

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It could have been what could it be like? Is

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it extra terrestrial? Was it a ferry?

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Was it like? What could it have been?

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Going on? Throughout my life as an adult, I was

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got into hiking and backpacking just for to get away,

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for fitness, for exercise, stuff like that. My husband and

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I used to do a lot of hiking backpacking. We

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still do. We don't backpack as much anymore, just because

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for obvious reasons. I've gotten into researching stuff that happens

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in the woods. I started researching the disappearances that happen

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in the Great Smoky Mountains where I live. I live

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thirty forty minutes away from the Great Smoking Mountains, and

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we did a lot of hiking and backpacking ended up

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running into Dave Politis's and Scott Carpenter's and but so

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I'm getting off track here, but some of the hikes

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that we've been on. We went on a hike in

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the Great Smoky Mountains National Park to the Walker sisters cabin,

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which is a really short hike. We're walking up just

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up through there, and this is probably this happen This

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has happened to us multiple times. We ended up here

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in like a growl come from the left side of

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the trail, and we didn't experience the the anything else

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except for the growl. We heard a growl. We thought,

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oh my gosh, it might be a bear.

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It might be a an animal of some sort.

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So we stopped, We looked around, made sure we were safe,

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finished our hike, and went on about our business and

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got back to the trailhead. Moving on. One big, one

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big situation that we had during a camping trip. Sorry

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I'm stumbling on my words, but I'm just thinking. In

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twenty eighteen, my husband and I and our children. We

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have two teenage boys now, but in twenty eighteen they

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were smaller. My sister in law had her kids who

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are now grown. We went to the Frozen Head State

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Park and we went camping. It was in the fall,

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I believe, and there weren't that many people camping at

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that time, just because it was cold. This is one

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of the things that stick out in my head the most.

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Everything was going great. We went on a hike that

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goes up multiple waterfalls. That evening, we did all of

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the normal things like having a campfire, cooking, and exploring

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the campground. We remember seeing maybe two three other campers

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because it was nearing the end of the season. But

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that night we went to bed around three a m.

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I guess, we were woken up by the sound of boulders,

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like big rocks being thrown into the river, which was

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right next to our campsite. Huge boulders just you could

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tell they were huge because.

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The splash was huge.

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The sound of the rocks hitting the bottom of the

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river you could hear them hitting the rocks that were

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at the bottom, and then the sound of a dog barking.

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So we were too scared to get out of the tent.

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Of course, my sister in law our tents were side

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by side.

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So we were like, did you hear that?

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Did you hear that?

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Are you awake?

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Are you awake? And of course we're talking between the

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tents because we were tent camping at that time. And

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after everything calmed down and the that sound went away

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and quit happening, which took a while, which we didn't

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know what was happening. We had no clue, like maybe

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somebody was doing it. I know there are like wild

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hogs and stuff in that area. But in the next morning,

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my sister in law and I we were walking up

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to the bathouse and we ended up running into the

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owner of the dog and she said, my dog never

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does that. We go hiking camping all the time. My

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dog that was so outside of her character. We don't

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know what happened, and we told her about the boulders

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being thrown into the river. My sister in law and

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I did not have a clue. We thought somebody must

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have been doing it. We didn't think anything Bigfoot related.

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But as time went on, we I started looking into it,

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like what could have that been? And I ended up

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running across Maybe it was the BFRO that did a

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story on Frozen Head. I can't remember exactly, but apparently

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there's and that's in Wartburg, Tennessee, near Petross Or Petris

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or however you pronounce it where we're from, Petros. Apparently

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there have been some Bigfoot sightings in that area, and

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I believe there was a hiker who found some bigfoot footprints.

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I don't think they were.

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Casted, but anyway, that's one thing. And as we were

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on our way out the next day out off of

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our camping trip, we were going under which is like

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an overhang, like a rock overhang, and we started getting

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our car hit with these big blobs of slime is

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what I would call it. And it looked like hate

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to say it like this, but loogi's on our windshield

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in the front of our car, which is unexplainable. I

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have no clue what that was if it may not

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be Bigfoot related or it maybe I have no clue,

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but seems a little strange considering after listening to your podcast.

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Seems like.

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A futs known for throwing rocks and boulders, just from

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the stories.

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That I've heard.

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Was it hard to clean that off your windshield?

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Oh? Yeah, it was like it's smeared, Like we tried

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to use the windshield fluid and the wipers and it

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just smeared it. And I do believe we pulled over

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at the nearest gas station that we found after we

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left that area, which is also near Brushy Mountain Penitentiary,

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which there's nothing out there until you get to the

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main road. Trying to clean that off the front of

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our car, I have no clue what that was like.

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It was really strange. Yeah, it was difficult to clean

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that off. Don't know what it was like. Just slime

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like balls of what looked like mucus.

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Okay, Yeah, was it oily at all or anything?

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I thought?

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I don't think so.

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So once we ran the car through the car wash,

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I believe it came off okay because it didn't leave

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any type of residual on the car.

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It just seemed to be.

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It really did look like some huge person talked to

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Lugie and spit it on the car. I hate to

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say that it's so vulgar, but that's what it seemed

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to be.

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I would not be surprised at all, because from what

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I've heard from different sources about Frozen Head, it's a

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really weird place and a lot of really strange things

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happening there.

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Besides it is it is, and the vibe there is strange. Also,

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we had a great time, and we've been there maybe

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one other time, and we've done the waterfall hikes and

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we had a really great time there with our family.

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But it was the vib felt strange, I guess that

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particular time that we were camping, but the boulders being

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thrown and it lasted probably I don't know, maybe five

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to ten minutes. We laid there and listened and just frozen,

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wondering why who's doing this. There weren't that many people

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in the campground that night, so yeah, I don't know,

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it was really strange.

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Jeremiah.

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Yeah, that's one of those things that it doesn't really

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make sense. And let's say if it was maybe a

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drunk person partying, then you probably would have heard people

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yelling at the same time or having a good time

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as they're throwing the rocks in there, right.

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Yeah, we didn't hear anything like that.

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We didn't hear a lot of people, like, we didn't

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hear people talking. Really, it was very quiet at that

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time of the year because it was cold, we were cold.

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We were tent camping. We have a camper now we've

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moved up just for comfort reasons, but.

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At the time we were tent camping.

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remember talking to one of the park rangers mentioning that

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But at the next morning, my sister in law and I.

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if we could see if we could figure out where

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the rock, like the large rocks were being displaced from.

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And we could not, like we never saw.

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Like uh indentations where large rocks used to be. We

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just couldn't see that they were being moved. There were

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large rocks along the bank, but none of them looked

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to be I don't know where they came from. That's

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that's another weird thing. Where they came from. Actually, And

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if I had known now the things that I know,

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and she and I both we've talked about it. We

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may have even tried to look for footprints of whatever

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may have been causing it, but we didn't know what

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to look for. We had no clue what could have

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been causing that at the time.

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So it's a very strange place. I think I've also

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heard reports of like shadow people, sightings or interactions, maybe

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even dog man stuff in that same area too. Just

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this weirdness abounds for sure.

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Yeah, I've definitely heard some things like that. Also didn't

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see anything like that, but I have nowadays that I've

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gotten into this. I went down the rabbit hole and

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started looking at videos and I started out.

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I guess it was like like.

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I said, Dave Politis, Scott Carpenter, Alex Pettakov, and I

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also stumbled across a lot of Jeff Meldrum's videos, which

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he's amazing. He's an amazing researcher. And I never thought

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that some of this stuff could have been attributed to

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the Bigfoot. But I'll move on. Besides the Frozen Head

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State Park and the boulders being thrown in the balls

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of slime, So in.

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Two thousand, this was last year.

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This was like last April May, late April early May,

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and I can't remember exactly which. So this is in

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the North Lake area that we talked about before recording.

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This is in some Native American land. Camp at a

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campground and we camp there quite often, normally in the

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springtime early summer. It's in, like I said, Anderson County

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of Tennessee along North Lake.

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We also have a boat up there.

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So we take our camper and we camp, and we

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have our friends that camp along with us. They have

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teenage front kids. We have teenage kids. So last early so.

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It was April May.

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Sorry I'm skipping up on my words because I'm thinking

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too much. We camp for the entire weekend and it

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depends on if the kids are in school or not.

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But so one night it was like a twilight.

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We decided to take this trail that we noticed that

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doesn't have a lot of hikers on it, that goes

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up behind this campground. Don't really want to name the

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campground just because it's small and it's not particularly a

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state park or a national park, but it has a campground,

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has a park, has hiking trails, So we hike were.

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We camped there a lot, and we hiked there a lot,

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and so one evening, right as it was starting to

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get dark.

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We were curious.

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We wanted to walk up and see how far we

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could get before it got dark. It was me and

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my friend and our teenage children. We started to walk

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up and it's a steep endcline that goes up to

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some boulders, maybe some limestone cliffs that overlooked the lake.

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We went up. We got about halfway up and the

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weirdest thing that's ever happened to us. We walked into

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We heard all of the night sounds, the scurrying of

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little creatures. Then all of a sudden, we walked into

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what I can only describe as.

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A bubble or.

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Like a void of silence, where all of the sounds

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of nature stopped and the pressure in my ears.

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Everyone noticed it.

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We didn't hear anything else, so we all stopped and

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were reevaluating the situation, looking at each other. Okay, I

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automatically just didn't feel right. Like I've always been intuitive,

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but I thought it was only when it came to

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like paranormal stuff or just natural feelings, and this this

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was a natural feeling. But started hearing nothing, and it

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there was a pressure like in my ears.

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So I'm looking at my children.

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I'm looking at everybody like, you know, my kids are bigger,

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but I'm looking at them, being like, are they right

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here with me? So I'm scoping out what's going on.

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I'm looking into the woods, I'm looking back down the trail,

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I'm looking up the trail, and it just seemed darker,

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like darker in that area, very quiet, very heavy, And

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we started then hearing scuffling in the woods. So my

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oldest son, who's sixteen now, he was fifteen at the

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time or fourteen or fifteen at the time. He got

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his phone out started recording immediately because we saw eye shine,

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or what we thought was I shine was probably eye shine.

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He started recording in we were just standing around looking

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scoping out. We kept walking a little bit because even

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though I didn't want to go much further, we went

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a little bit further and that bubble feeling, like that

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void feeling, didn't go away.

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I asked my friend. I was like, I don't. I

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told my friend. I was like, we don't need to

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go much further.

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I feel like this is something's wrong, like we need

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to go back, and she insisted we needed to. No,

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it's okay, We'll just keep going, We're almost there to

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the top. I didn't like the way it felt. My

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son didn't like the way it felt. He was recording,

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and I said, no, everybody, let's go back down. This

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is this doesn't feel comfortable. So we got all the

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way back down. We as soon as we walked maybe

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another one hundred feet two hundred the bubble feeling lifted.

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It went away. We could hear, I could hear again.

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They did say that they felt that way too, But

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I feel like when I described the bubble, the void,

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the silence. We saw eyeshine and it could have been deer,

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but we saw red eyeshine. And we also my son

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and my oldest son and I said that we saw

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something that looked like a really tall black figure wearing

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a backpack, which might sound weird, but we saw big, tall,

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dark figure wearing a backpack or something on its back.

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But we couldn't make out features, couldn't see facial features,

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couldn't see you could see arms and legs maybe. But

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it didn't last very long, and when we got back

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out to the bar bottom of the trail, we looked

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it back to the camper and stayed there for the

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rest of the night. So my son pulled up the

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video that he had taken, and we saw like a shiny,

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silvery figure walking from right to left in front of

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about a three or four foot stump. And it wasn't

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a whole lot taller than the stump, but it was

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shiny almost it was like silvery. Also couldn't make out

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facial features the video, and we slowed it down multiple

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times to try to catch to see exactly what it

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may have been. But it had arms, legs, shoulders ahead,

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and it would walk. It walked past a tree stump,

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and we also saw the red eye shine on the video.

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So we were like freaking out, really upset. Let's just

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forget about this and enjoy the rest of this evening

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and let's not talk about this.

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Anymore type of thing. So we did, and that's what

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we did.

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We just we did talk about it a lot, and

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oh my gosh, what was it that we saw?

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What happened? How was that so weird?

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What was it that we saw on the video which

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we didn't see with our naked eye walking in front

464
00:30:28.359 --> 00:30:32.440
of that stump, even though we could hear stuff walking

465
00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:36.240
like around us, even though all of the cricket sounds

466
00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:39.559
the frog noises, the stuff that you hear in the

467
00:30:39.799 --> 00:30:43.599
normal night next to the lake, we just didn't hear anymore.

468
00:30:43.759 --> 00:30:48.160
So the next morning we were like, let's look at

469
00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:52.519
that video again. The video was gone. It was completely

470
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:56.279
gone off of his phone. Don't know where it went.

471
00:30:56.440 --> 00:31:00.920
He was like, I did not delete it.

472
00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:05.039
It just disappeared like the strangest thing. But we still

473
00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:08.640
don't know what it was that we saw. Of course,

474
00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:13.000
at that time we attributed it to some sort of

475
00:31:13.160 --> 00:31:17.799
paranormal type thing, just because we didn't think a whole

476
00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:23.720
lot about Bigfoot or if it could have been related

477
00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:31.480
to Bigfoot. We automatically thought paranormal type stuff, which I mean,

478
00:31:31.519 --> 00:31:34.759
I don't even know if maybe Bigfoot could be a

479
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:39.200
part of the paranormal world. It could be, but I

480
00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:43.480
don't think anybody really knows. But it's interesting that that

481
00:31:43.920 --> 00:31:49.400
video somehow disappeared completely off of my son's phone without

482
00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:54.079
him disappeared or deleting it. We saw it on the

483
00:31:54.200 --> 00:31:55.920
video that evening.

484
00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:56.640
My Sonday night.

485
00:31:56.680 --> 00:32:00.880
We've talked about it multiple times. And the thing that

486
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:06.400
we saw with our naked eye, the tall, dark figure

487
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:11.599
walking in the woods that we thought was wearing a backpack,

488
00:32:11.960 --> 00:32:17.319
which maybe it was really tall, I don't know, maybe

489
00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:21.680
ten eight nine ten feet. We thought was wearing a

490
00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:26.759
backpack and it just passed along the trail and we were, yeah,

491
00:32:26.799 --> 00:32:28.559
we got to get out of here. So that's when

492
00:32:28.599 --> 00:32:34.480
we've camped there again since. But I refuse all we

493
00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:37.599
refused to go back up there. It was just that creepy.

494
00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:42.160
It was that weird. What was supposed to be just

495
00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:47.400
a evening pike up to the top what's like a

496
00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:52.039
boulder field or a maybe a limestone cave typed area,

497
00:32:53.599 --> 00:32:56.640
turned into let's go back and I don't want to

498
00:32:56.680 --> 00:32:57.920
go back up there ever.

499
00:32:57.839 --> 00:32:58.839
Again type of thing.

500
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:02.599
I don't know, And that kind of took me down

501
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:07.279
that whole rabbit hole of what was that like? So

502
00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:11.839
I started doing research online what could it have been?

503
00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:16.160
So I started like getting online looking at stuff like

504
00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:19.079
what could it have been?

505
00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:22.920
Terranormal? Was it? And then I started getting I started

506
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:27.440
going down the Bigfoot rabbit hole. So now I'm looking

507
00:33:27.480 --> 00:33:31.079
I'm listening to all of these videos on your podcast,

508
00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:37.119
on your channel on YouTube, a few others. I think

509
00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:41.960
I'm your friends with Miguel from is It Sasquatch?

510
00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:46.279
Yeah, Miguel for sasquatch theory. Like I have had him

511
00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:48.599
on the show, and you know, we've talked a bit.

512
00:33:48.680 --> 00:33:49.880
He's a good guy for sure.

513
00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:54.079
Yeah, yep, yeah, So I've listened to some of his also,

514
00:33:54.559 --> 00:33:57.519
just some of the things that I've heard just from

515
00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:02.319
all of like especially Channel, Like the things that I

516
00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:06.319
hear these people talk about, I'm like, that sounds exactly

517
00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:11.079
like what we experience, like the void in the bubble

518
00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:16.800
and the weird silence and that feeling of dread and

519
00:34:17.559 --> 00:34:20.719
like you're being watched and that you need to get

520
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:27.119
out of there immediately the last time, the very last thing.

521
00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:32.159
And this has been within the last year or so,

522
00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:36.599
once I started getting into some of this, like online research,

523
00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:41.679
trying to find confirmation of my own and to see

524
00:34:41.719 --> 00:34:42.920
what other people are saying.

525
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Email, we used to hike and backpack, and I don't anymore, honestly, Jeremiah,

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We've heard things that we couldn't extp Blaine, like, never

581
00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:04.199
anything super serious.

582
00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:05.440
And there was a time.

583
00:38:05.320 --> 00:38:08.679
We were my friend and I were backpacking in like

584
00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:13.519
the Blunt County area of the Great Smoky Mountains, and

585
00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:16.639
it was a short backpacking trip. It was maybe like

586
00:38:16.679 --> 00:38:20.320
a mile and a half back. We heard like these

587
00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:23.920
bird noises during the night, and I was like, that's

588
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:26.719
not a bird that I know makes noises at night.

589
00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:30.639
So we laid there and listened for a little while,

590
00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:34.119
and nothing else weird happened. But it's just the little

591
00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:37.679
things that now I look back on the But like

592
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:40.639
I said, when I got off track, was the last

593
00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:44.199
thing was my husband and I took our camper up

594
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:49.440
to Smokemont, which is near Cherokee of North Carolina, near

595
00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:56.039
the Reservation, the Cherokee Indian Reservation. There's a campground up there.

596
00:38:56.159 --> 00:38:56.880
It was just us.

597
00:38:57.000 --> 00:39:02.159
It was our anniversary. We got away without the boys,

598
00:39:02.199 --> 00:39:07.039
and we were doing some kind of hiking around like

599
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:10.000
and we always do this for some reason in the evening.

600
00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:13.760
We're hiking around in the evening, and we're doing this hike,

601
00:39:14.199 --> 00:39:17.880
and all of a sudden, the same thing happened, that quiet,

602
00:39:18.400 --> 00:39:23.280
weird void and I was up ahead of him a

603
00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:28.880
little ways and I heard a growl, like a low

604
00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:34.039
bar tone sounding growl, or what I thought was a growl.

605
00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:37.519
So I looked back at my husband to see what

606
00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:40.280
he was doing, like where you. We were all just

607
00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:44.800
looking at the plants and what was around us, which

608
00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:47.719
we normally do. I look back at him to see

609
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:50.360
what he's looking at and to see if he heard

610
00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:53.960
what I heard. And he looked at me with that

611
00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:57.360
look on his face. Let's go. He gave me the

612
00:39:57.400 --> 00:40:00.480
look and he did the head nod. Come here. So

613
00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:04.360
I walked back towards him up the trail. And I

614
00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:06.920
can't remember the name of the trail, but it was

615
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:12.480
at Smokemont in that area. If anybody is familiar with

616
00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:15.719
that area, there's hiking trails and stuff like that around

617
00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:19.639
the area. When I got back to him, I said,

618
00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:22.440
did you hear that? And he said, yes, I did,

619
00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:26.679
and I said, okay, let's just head back. So we

620
00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:30.639
started walking back towards where our camper was and he

621
00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:35.880
as we're walking along, we heard it again and it happened.

622
00:40:36.039 --> 00:40:43.000
We already had that ominous feeling of something wasn't right.

623
00:40:43.320 --> 00:40:46.360
It was quiet in the woods. We heard it again,

624
00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:53.360
but it was a like a low baritone growl sound.

625
00:40:53.639 --> 00:40:56.840
But it wasn't the type of sound that you could

626
00:40:57.039 --> 00:41:03.000
just hear. We felt it could feel the sound, and

627
00:41:03.079 --> 00:41:06.440
we couldn't pinpoint where it was coming from, whether it

628
00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:09.199
was coming from our right or our left, or up

629
00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:13.320
ahead of us it was coming from just it was

630
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:17.440
almost like it was just coming from the area. And

631
00:41:18.079 --> 00:41:23.119
it did feel like that deep rumbling, like it like

632
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:28.280
you're standing next to a base speaker, like a had

633
00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:31.440
a concert or something like that. And I've heard so

634
00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:35.559
many people say that on your on your channel, that

635
00:41:35.639 --> 00:41:39.800
they feel like it's the vibration, and we felt that.

636
00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:43.840
We both felt that, and I wanted to run. He

637
00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:47.280
grabbed me by my shirt and by my arm and

638
00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:52.960
he said, don't run. Don't. Let's just walk, walk quickly,

639
00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:56.000
act like you didn't hear it, and let's just go.

640
00:41:57.039 --> 00:42:00.679
Because here in the Appalachian Mountains, if if you heard it,

641
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:01.599
no you didn't.

642
00:42:02.679 --> 00:42:05.519
If you saw it, no you didn't, you just keep

643
00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:08.239
on going and you'd act like you didn't hear it.

644
00:42:08.920 --> 00:42:12.519
So that's what we did. And it was that feeling

645
00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:19.840
of just being watched and like we were. It felt

646
00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:24.199
like something could jump out at any moment and.

647
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:27.519
Just snatch us up. Like it was that scary of

648
00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:30.800
a moment. That was the probably the scariest.

649
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:33.960
It was way scarier than that moment up on that

650
00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:38.119
trail at Norris Lake. I don't think I've ever been

651
00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:44.360
that scared then I was that time that smoke wont

652
00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:49.559
We made it back to the campground and we talked

653
00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:52.440
about it, but we felt like we had to be

654
00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:58.000
like hush, like we didn't want somebody else or whatever

655
00:42:58.079 --> 00:42:59.960
that was, to hear us talking about it.

656
00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:02.000
And that's how scared we were.

657
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:07.119
We went into our camper and we looked out the

658
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:11.000
window of our camper all night long. I feel like

659
00:43:11.320 --> 00:43:16.599
because we were so scared, it was probably the creepiest

660
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:21.719
thing I've ever experienced, and then again, like I had

661
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:26.559
started to dig into some of the bigfoot type of stuff,

662
00:43:26.920 --> 00:43:30.039
and I did even mention to my husband, like you

663
00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:33.320
think that could have been bigfoot, and he's I don't know.

664
00:43:33.519 --> 00:43:37.119
I have no clue. It was just unexplainable what we

665
00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:41.840
felt and that feeling of don't run, act like you

666
00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:46.440
didn't hear it, let's just go, and then locking the door,

667
00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:50.639
keeping the windows up on the camper, but we would.

668
00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:53.719
We were peeking out of the windows of our camper

669
00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:58.719
all night long. I feel like thinking that something was

670
00:43:58.760 --> 00:44:02.840
out there because so strange and so unexplainable. But I've

671
00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:06.159
heard people talk about that same feeling and that feeling

672
00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:11.400
of that base standing next to a speaker feeling, and

673
00:44:11.480 --> 00:44:14.199
I never until I listened to your podcast, I never

674
00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:18.559
heard people say stuff like that. But you could actually

675
00:44:18.719 --> 00:44:24.280
feel the energy or the base or something off of

676
00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:27.480
that growl or that groan. But we never saw anything.

677
00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:33.199
We didn't see anything, We didn't hear anything walking in

678
00:44:33.239 --> 00:44:37.800
the woods. We just heard that growl or that groan.

679
00:44:38.079 --> 00:44:41.519
But we were completely alone. We didn't see any other

680
00:44:41.639 --> 00:44:47.079
people because it was late in the day twilight evening hours,

681
00:44:47.679 --> 00:44:51.559
so we didn't see any other people. Until we got

682
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:55.440
back to the campground, but and then the mood lightened

683
00:44:55.519 --> 00:45:00.000
and we felt safe again. But I have no clue, Jeremiah.

684
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:03.559
It was just some of the things that I felt

685
00:45:03.559 --> 00:45:08.920
and experienced, and I have the confirmation from my children

686
00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:12.480
and my husband, and my friend and her children. But

687
00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:15.519
at the same time, what prompted me to reach out

688
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:18.800
to you was just to get your perspective.

689
00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:21.159
And I know you have a lot.

690
00:45:21.039 --> 00:45:27.039
Of followers who have had probably some of the same experiences.

691
00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:28.119
Just intrigued.

692
00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:31.320
It's intriguing, and I guess I just wanted to just

693
00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:36.000
see what you had to say. And I'm really interested

694
00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:40.599
in what your other followers have experienced, especially in my area,

695
00:45:41.079 --> 00:45:45.079
because in my area I never thought that there were

696
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:50.880
of course, you hear the Appalachian tales of cryptids and whatnot,

697
00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:56.559
and of course we have sightings other than the video

698
00:45:56.679 --> 00:46:00.440
that my son had on his phone. I've never seen

699
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:06.159
anything with my eyes. I've never looked anything face to face,

700
00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:12.519
and I don't want to because I've had that scare

701
00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:19.000
of not wanting to go backpacking again and hiking. I

702
00:46:19.079 --> 00:46:21.800
used to hike by myself a lot, and I don't

703
00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:25.800
at all anymore. I don't even think about doing it.

704
00:46:27.239 --> 00:46:30.639
I don't want to, but I just I guess I

705
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:36.119
just thought reaching out to you might get your perspective

706
00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:40.719
on things. And also I really enjoy hearing what your

707
00:46:40.760 --> 00:46:44.320
other followers have to say about what's going on in

708
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my area.

709
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:45.239
Yeah.

710
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Absolutely, and both of those, especially the last few things

711
00:46:50.440 --> 00:46:55.079
that you shared, so like the Smoke Mount campground and

712
00:46:55.159 --> 00:46:58.679
Cherokee like that is that sounds to me like a

713
00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:04.039
classic infra sation experience, the way you experience it where

714
00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:07.039
especially where you can feel the sound and it feels

715
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:11.599
like it's vibrating you. It's you're getting that fight or

716
00:47:11.679 --> 00:47:15.039
flight and it sound like personally you got you. We're like,

717
00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:18.199
I want to get out of here. And thankfully he

718
00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:21.800
was smart enough to be like, hey, don't go anywhere,

719
00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:25.639
because a lot of times that can even trigger like

720
00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:29.199
a predator response even more if they see something start

721
00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:29.559
to run.

722
00:47:29.679 --> 00:47:29.920
Right.

723
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:34.519
So yes, exactly, Yeah, and I'm glad that he was

724
00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:36.719
level headed enough to say.

725
00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:39.599
Don't run, just be calm.

726
00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:44.880
But that was probably the most scared of ever been, Jeremiah.

727
00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:45.960
It was nuts.

728
00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:50.599
I do know that I just talked to an individual

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731
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As your career rare.

777
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Yeah, the mountains are so like there.

778
00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:45.760
It's just so mountainous. The woods are very dense in

779
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a lot of the areas we we also we camp

780
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in Maggie Valley. That's one of our favorite spots is

781
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the Mile High Campground up above Maggie Valley, And it's

782
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actually on the Turkey Indian Reservation, which the only thing

783
00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:09.119
we've ever heard of there were coyotes, and luckily we've

784
00:51:09.159 --> 00:51:10.440
not seen anything.

785
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I don't think I ever want to Jeremi.

786
00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:14.679
I don't think I want to see anything unless it's

787
00:51:14.679 --> 00:51:19.320
from a safe distance, like from a car, like something

788
00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:20.800
bounding across the road.

789
00:51:21.840 --> 00:51:23.679
I don't think I ever want to.

790
00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:27.480
It scares me to death to think that you could

791
00:51:27.559 --> 00:51:31.239
come across something, just from some of the experiences that

792
00:51:31.280 --> 00:51:35.599
I've heard from some of your followers, Oh my gosh,

793
00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:39.840
if I came across something, especially on some of my

794
00:51:39.960 --> 00:51:43.920
hiking trips that I had done by myself, I just

795
00:51:44.039 --> 00:51:47.039
don't know how I could react to something like that.

796
00:51:47.800 --> 00:51:51.000
It's just insane to think that some of those people,

797
00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:56.280
the hunters and the people just out hiking or whatever

798
00:51:56.320 --> 00:52:01.599
they're doing, come across something that huge and that unexplainable,

799
00:52:01.719 --> 00:52:05.000
because in your mind, you don't think that's that could

800
00:52:05.079 --> 00:52:05.840
be real.

801
00:52:05.800 --> 00:52:08.239
Even though it obviously is.

802
00:52:09.119 --> 00:52:11.920
I just can't bring myself to go on any more

803
00:52:11.960 --> 00:52:18.039
of those solo hikes or backcountry backpacking trips anymore, which

804
00:52:18.280 --> 00:52:21.760
kind of makes me sad that now that I that

805
00:52:21.880 --> 00:52:25.880
I know all this stuff is scaring me away from

806
00:52:26.480 --> 00:52:29.320
doing those things that I used to love. But at

807
00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:33.519
the same time, I don't want to end up in

808
00:52:33.599 --> 00:52:36.599
one of those situations which I don't know, and I

809
00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:39.239
don't think that in a lot of cases that they're

810
00:52:39.800 --> 00:52:44.639
mean or they're bad, or that they're out to hurt people.

811
00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:47.840
It's just that shock factor.

812
00:52:47.519 --> 00:52:52.719
Of seeing something that you in your mind you know

813
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:57.119
is real, but at the same time, you don't know

814
00:52:57.239 --> 00:52:59.679
that until you see it. I mean, I'm sure you

815
00:52:59.800 --> 00:53:02.920
hear that all the time, but it is.

816
00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:06.559
A thing, especially in your area. You know, I would say,

817
00:53:06.559 --> 00:53:08.519
you want to be so careful if you're going to

818
00:53:08.559 --> 00:53:11.280
be doing like solo hiking or out there. There's just

819
00:53:11.320 --> 00:53:16.840
so many stories and documented events of people going missing

820
00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:20.960
in that area. But the thing that you shared that

821
00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:25.119
I thought was really interesting is a whole like Norris

822
00:53:25.239 --> 00:53:31.800
Lake Campground and how you described that. I've experienced that,

823
00:53:32.800 --> 00:53:35.519
not walking into it, but I've experienced that like void

824
00:53:35.559 --> 00:53:38.639
of silence and like the pressure in your ears, and

825
00:53:38.679 --> 00:53:43.079
it is one of the most disconcerting things I've ever experienced.

826
00:53:43.119 --> 00:53:45.360
And that was out in Oregon, way out in the woods.

827
00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:50.400
But when I hear people talk about something like that

828
00:53:50.519 --> 00:53:53.840
where you describe that, it's almost like it comes up

829
00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:57.280
when a lot of people are talking about potential portals

830
00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:03.559
or which is very interesting, especially if you look at

831
00:54:03.679 --> 00:54:07.039
the area. And I don't want to get too wild,

832
00:54:07.159 --> 00:54:11.199
but there are certain podcasts out there that I'll just say,

833
00:54:11.199 --> 00:54:13.920
like the confessionals really get into it. Tony Merkle and

834
00:54:13.960 --> 00:54:18.039
he's based out there. But they talk about the alleged

835
00:54:18.159 --> 00:54:22.280
research that goes on in Oakridge, Tennessee. And you've got

836
00:54:22.480 --> 00:54:26.679
allegedly some really interesting things going on there. And that's

837
00:54:26.679 --> 00:54:29.559
the most I'm really going to get into on my podcast.

838
00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:32.199
If you want to get more into that, people can

839
00:54:32.280 --> 00:54:35.039
check out the Confessionals and Tony can tell you all

840
00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:37.280
about eastern Tennessee and portals and stuff.

841
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:38.639
He's good, he's good for that.

842
00:54:39.320 --> 00:54:46.119
But confessionals, Okay, oh yeah, yeah, yeah that when you

843
00:54:46.159 --> 00:54:49.960
say a like portal, yes, oh my goodness, that is

844
00:54:50.519 --> 00:54:55.119
what we did. Mention that after it happened. Because of

845
00:54:55.239 --> 00:54:59.400
the disappearances and stuff that happened in our area, that

846
00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:03.320
is that's a concern. Are they portals? Because I know

847
00:55:04.079 --> 00:55:08.920
there was that conspiracy that maybe Bigfoot was to blame

848
00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:12.800
for some of the disappearances in the Great Smoky Mountains

849
00:55:12.840 --> 00:55:16.679
National Park, And in my mind, I'm like, no way.

850
00:55:16.880 --> 00:55:20.280
I feel like, for the most part, in our area,

851
00:55:20.320 --> 00:55:25.440
I don't think that they're necessarily aggressive or out to

852
00:55:25.559 --> 00:55:26.639
get anybody.

853
00:55:27.480 --> 00:55:29.760
I feel like in our area they're just.

854
00:55:29.840 --> 00:55:34.480
Out here surviving and I just don't see it being

855
00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:38.559
Bigfoot related. Like the people disappearing but at the same time,

856
00:55:39.719 --> 00:55:43.039
just like some of the other people on your channel

857
00:55:43.119 --> 00:55:47.559
talking about maybe they're just trying to show you away

858
00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:51.239
from their living space, like maybe they're just trying to

859
00:55:51.239 --> 00:55:53.760
get you out of their area. And they do certain

860
00:55:53.880 --> 00:55:57.880
things that we don't that don't we can't explain, like

861
00:55:57.920 --> 00:56:03.119
the infrasound or the the growls and stuff like that.

862
00:56:03.800 --> 00:56:07.239
I can't even I don't know enough to really even

863
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:10.559
be able to articulate what I'm trying to tell you,

864
00:56:11.280 --> 00:56:13.960
but yeah, you know exactly what I'm trying to say.

865
00:56:14.199 --> 00:56:14.800
I don't know.

866
00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:18.440
I don't think that the ones in our area are

867
00:56:19.159 --> 00:56:23.280
necessarily aggressive, because you don't hear about them being aggressive,

868
00:56:23.599 --> 00:56:28.239
even the accounts that I hear, like from Cock County,

869
00:56:28.280 --> 00:56:32.519
in Newport, in Blunt County, just like with Scott Carpenter,

870
00:56:33.000 --> 00:56:37.440
they could have snatched him up and they didn't. Just

871
00:56:37.480 --> 00:56:41.840
like my friend that he's an outdoorsman, he's an excavatory

872
00:56:41.960 --> 00:56:46.119
does jobs all over the mountains, and he has his

873
00:56:46.280 --> 00:56:51.639
own things that he's told me. But he said the

874
00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:54.599
lady that told him about the little people, I don't

875
00:56:54.639 --> 00:56:57.679
know why she felt like she could confide in him

876
00:56:58.000 --> 00:57:00.880
and be like, oh yeah, by the way, while you're

877
00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:04.599
here doing work on my property. There's these little people.

878
00:57:04.800 --> 00:57:07.639
You might see them, you might not. And he was like,

879
00:57:07.960 --> 00:57:10.760
I believed her. He's like, I actually she was a

880
00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:16.079
logical person. And I was like, you know what, that's

881
00:57:16.199 --> 00:57:20.320
really cool. So that's another rabbit hole I went down, Jeremiah.

882
00:57:20.519 --> 00:57:24.480
But I'm just I'm really grateful that you got back

883
00:57:24.519 --> 00:57:27.880
to me because this has been a really neat opportunity

884
00:57:27.920 --> 00:57:30.440
for me to talk about some of the things that

885
00:57:31.440 --> 00:57:35.000
were weird that I've experienced, that my family and I've

886
00:57:35.039 --> 00:57:38.880
experienced and compare them to a lot of the other

887
00:57:38.920 --> 00:57:43.320
people in my area on your podcasts that have experienced

888
00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:45.800
a lot of the same things. I think it's super

889
00:57:46.440 --> 00:57:54.400
interesting and super confirming, which it's always as a personal experience,

890
00:57:54.559 --> 00:58:02.039
you still can't rationalize. But there's something and without seeing

891
00:58:03.239 --> 00:58:08.519
the being with my own eyes, which I haven't except

892
00:58:08.519 --> 00:58:11.239
for in that video, still don't know what that was

893
00:58:11.440 --> 00:58:14.360
could be. Like I said, it's hard to rationalize what

894
00:58:14.679 --> 00:58:18.119
it could be. But I appreciate you giving me this opportunity.

895
00:58:18.159 --> 00:58:20.360
It's super cool to be able to talk to you.

896
00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:23.679
Oh and I'm so glad you came on. I feel

897
00:58:23.760 --> 00:58:25.599
that there's going to be a lot of people that

898
00:58:25.639 --> 00:58:29.599
will be reaching out about things that happen in the

899
00:58:29.639 --> 00:58:33.360
Norris Lake Anderson County area.

900
00:58:33.559 --> 00:58:34.679
I just have a.

901
00:58:34.599 --> 00:58:37.760
Feeling this will open up some really interesting things to

902
00:58:37.800 --> 00:58:41.840
come in the future, and hopefully maybe we can even

903
00:58:41.880 --> 00:58:49.039
get you. I feel we're talking earlier. The check out

904
00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:52.880
the Bigfoot Reports and Data Facebook group. Harley Owens is

905
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:57.760
a great researcher down there, and he was very involved

906
00:58:57.800 --> 00:59:00.000
with a lot of the places that you've been bringing up,

907
00:59:00.119 --> 00:59:02.079
and he's very knowledgeable about it too.

908
00:59:02.280 --> 00:59:05.119
So but oh yeah, I'm definitely going to check out

909
00:59:05.280 --> 00:59:08.880
his I'm gonna look him up probably as soon as

910
00:59:08.880 --> 00:59:09.519
we hang up.

911
00:59:09.679 --> 00:59:13.199
Actually, absolutely, Heather, it's been a pleasure chatting with you.

912
00:59:13.280 --> 00:59:16.239
Please keep me in mind if anything else out of

913
00:59:16.280 --> 00:59:18.920
the ordinary comes up in the future, we'd love to

914
00:59:19.519 --> 00:59:21.519
I love to talk to you at a later time

915
00:59:21.559 --> 00:59:21.920
as well.

916
00:59:23.119 --> 00:59:24.079
I definitely will.

917
00:59:24.199 --> 00:59:24.800
Thank you so.

918
00:59:24.840 --> 00:59:25.760
Much, Jeremiah.

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