Aug. 8, 2025

Bigfoot Hears the Bagpipes — Then EVERYTHING Goes Crazy!

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Season 1

What happens when a teenager brings a set of Scottish bagpipes into the deep woods of the Olympic Peninsula — and something ancient answers back? In this electrifying and immersive episode, we hear from Jonathan, a first-time BFRO expedition attendee who joined his father and brother for four days of Bigfoot research outside Forks, Washington. What started as a graduation gift quickly turned into something far stranger, as they encountered power knocks, thermal sightings, massive footprints, and the unnerving feeling of being watched. You’ll hear how a unique sound experiment triggered an immediate response, what it’s like to be followed in the forest, and why some researchers believe Bigfoot may mimic human footsteps to stay hidden. This episode is packed with eerie moments, raw emotion, and the kind of detail only a firsthand witness can deliver. Whether you’re a skeptic or a believer, you won’t want to miss this unforgettable night in the woods.

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You're listening to Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron

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Tonight's story doesn't come from a hunter or a scientist,

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but from a teenager whose senior year graduation gift turned

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into a four night encounter with the unexplained. In the

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Massy Hills outside Forks, Washington, Jonathan, his brother, and their

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dad joined a BFRO expedition, and what followed included something

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no one expected, the haunting sound of bagpipes echoing through

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the woods, and an answer that came in the form

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of Power Knox, massive footprints, and a thermal sighting of

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something peering from the hickory brush. This isn't a secondhand tale.

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It's Jonathan's story and you'll want to hear every minute

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of it. So stay with us, all right, Big for Society.

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You've got the privilege of talking to Jonathan. He's from

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the Pacific Northwest. Jonathan reached out to me about an

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expedition he was on and some interesting things that happened

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on it. But how's it going today, Jonathan?

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Oh, pretty well? On yourself.

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I'm having a great night.

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I'm glad to be able to talk to you, and

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you know, I'm going to go ahead and let you

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get right into it.

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Yeah, so we are.

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Me and my brother my dad attended a expedition to

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the Afro last July, and there's the group was about

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a little over twenty of us and we went out

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to the Olympic Peninsula a little the area around Forks

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and yeah, no, they constantly kept telling us the whole

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time that we can They basically promised that they could

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put us into a situation where they could try their

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best to have something happen, but they can't promise it, obviously,

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And we were completely surprised by just how much happened.

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I would be spanning for like four days. It was

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one of their more eventful ones they'd had in the

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past couple of years.

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That's awesome, And it was this the first time you

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were being involved with a Bigfoot event like this, or

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like how long had you oh yeah to Bigfoot four?

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Oh yeah, since I was a kid. It was more

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of like funny enough.

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It was kind of like my senior year graduation present

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in a way, which I thought was kind of fun.

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But yeah, I've been into it forever, so it's just

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more of like I finally got a chance to do it,

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you know.

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That's awesome. Is your your dad really into it as well?

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Yeah, he is. The three of us were.

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It was one of those things that we kind of

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all fancied, we just never got around to actually sitting

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down and finally doing it. We're like, oh, we actually

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have a chance to do it, so let's do it.

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How did you get set up with going on the expedition?

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Did you have to get a lot of gears or

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had you been hiking before?

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Yeah, so, you know, did the whole winter. Cabella's picked

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up a couple.

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Of camping camping materials and whatnot, and they kind of

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did like a grocery store run.

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They gave us a rundown of what you should and

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shouldn't bring.

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Yeah, it was just more of just getting the supplies

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in general, like the tents and the food you need.

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And the downside is obviously there wasn't any showers because

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we're literally camping for four days.

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But it was It was honestly really fun.

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Like I never thought, you know, being like just not

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showering four days a bunch of twenty year old, twenty

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random strangers would be like that fun.

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If that makes sense, I get it.

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I've also been out on a few things not BFRO related,

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but it was independent and it's just really nice to

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get out there disconnect from different things, especially.

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If you're in the Pacific Northwest where it's beautiful year long.

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Oh that's true.

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I mean you could probably go to a grocery store

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and it'd still be beautiful because it's in the Pacific Northwest.

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But yeah, can you paint the scene for us of

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what kind of area that you went in, because I

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know you have to be very careful about how you

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tell where we're at for this.

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Yeah, So that just is because it was private property,

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like because normally when you sign up through a VFRO

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expedition and this is actually I thought this was really cool,

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they make you sign an NDA that basically says we're

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not allowed you're not allowed to disclose where we're going,

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how we're going, or what we're doing until after the

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event because obviously they don't want some Joe Schmo dressing

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up in a gorilla suit beforehand as a third party

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and setting stuff up. You know, they wanted to make

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it as fun and as actual genuine as possible. But

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we actually had to sign a second NDA because this

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was private property. Basically saying we're not allowed to disclose this.

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If we're to do stuff like this like podcast or

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tell other people on a platform like this, we're not

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allowed to disclose like obviously because we were literally camping

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in another person's backyard, like their house was visible from

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our tents. It was a pretty bizarre experience, but it

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was It was pretty cool. It was out by Fork's Ish,

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that's kind of where it was.

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I mean, there's a lot of wild stuff out there

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besides the twilight stuff, but you've got like, what the

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whole rainforest is out there? Oh yeah, do you know

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if this was a property where they had reached out

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to the BFRO with a sighting and they had a

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lot of activity happening on that property.

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So yes, it was a mix of both.

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It was more of it had been in their eyesights

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for a while and they'd been there a couple of times,

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and it was more of like a private one of

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those high up on the food chain.

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I guess only a handful of people knew.

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And they finally decided to release it out to the

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public to actually try to, you know, do stuff with

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like did use to do an actual expedition on Oh.

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That's pretty cool.

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So he kind of walked me through what happened first

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first day when you first first got there.

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Yeah, so we got there in the afternoon ish because

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the drive is a little interesting and the time they

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ride that you're going to do an evening orientation with

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everybody there, and they kind of told us what to expect,

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like how the night walks work, the Carlton night operations

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and whatnot. They're basically on just picked their camping site

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and kind of went from there and on. Nothing really

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happened in the day, but it's more of the evening.

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We did our night operations. My brother actually kind of

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for kicks and giggles, but the expedition posts thought this was.

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A very good idea.

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My brother bought his literal Scottish bagpipes, and they thought

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it would actually be a brilliant tool to use because

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you know you've ever heard of bagpipe, they're pretty stink

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and lab. You put them on a like a high elevation,

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they there's nothing in.

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At least two miles.

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They can't hear it, and they thought it would be

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a brilliant idea to use that on a night ops

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with One team was with the bagpipes, which me and

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myself and my dad weren and there was another group

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that circled around like the mountain because we were at

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we're at a base of the mountain, and there was

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a third team that was a couple of guys they

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were going to go camping up on the top of

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the mountain and just stayed at night there. But yeah, no,

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it was It was a pretty bizarre experience because it

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was just like my brother was sitting on the hillside

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playing bagpipes and there was a clearing below us, and

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it would just get carried like after he played, you

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could hear it just carry for like an extra three

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or four seconds.

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It was really cool.

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Do you know if it ever had been used in

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the history of the BFO or is probably a first time.

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I actually, I.

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Actually don't even think so.

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I don't even to be honest with you, because I

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know I talking to these BFRO guys.

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They were so cool.

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They basically very much heavily distinguished that there was a

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difference between the Finding Big Fit TV show and the

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BFR they worked there and within I don't even think

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they did that type stuff even on Finding Big Food

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like the show, So I actually think that was probably

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the first time they did something like that, and I

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think that's just because the bagpipes is such a hard

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instrument to learn that it was just really it was

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really off putting, but we used it.

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And it was.

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To be honestly, I think it's pretty effective what they

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were telling us, because something that really I thought it

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was interesting that they constantly told us that there is

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no experts in bigfoot. Anyone who says that is basically

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just lining to your face. There are people that are

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more experienced that I have just learned from like working

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in the field, right. And something that they told us

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from their experience is that because of TV shows like

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Finding Bigfoot in documentaries that people kind of kept doing

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like howls and whatnot to where they've noticed is that

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they don't really do howls anymore. They just kind of

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like knock or make other noises. So hearing a bagpipe

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I think really startled them. And after we played, essentially

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what basically happened is my brother was playing some tunes

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on a hillside.

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There's another group that was below us kind of circling.

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Around, and there was also a group in base camp.

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And when we were going down the hillside, playing you know,

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open clear cut, and eventually when he stopped playing, and

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while they were playing, the bass camp immediately on radio

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started calling off that there was knocks going on across

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the road behind the base camp immediately. And these weren't

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like from what we talked about later that evening is

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these were not just simple like tree snaps. These were

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like what you would can traditionally call the stereotypical.

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Like power Knox, just like wham wham, wham.

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You know, like a baseball bat to a tree, which

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like really got everyone excited. And there was other Knox

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people were hearing them like the other side of the

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road towards our base camp, and that was that was

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really bizarre to hear in like two different places at

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the same time, basically because it's like, oh, okay, so

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you don't you don't know, you know, like this isn't

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like normal.

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Did they say if there was a pattern to them

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at all or.

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No?

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They I don't recall them ever mentioning it was a pattern,

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but they were just making I just remember because I

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was with the group A and they basically just called

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on the radio that they were hearing knocks and they

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were just describing it that evening and everything was said

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and done.

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So then you've got you've got knocks happening, you got

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power Knox, you've got your brother playing bagpipes. Did the

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bagpipes continue after the Knox or were you like, okay,

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let's settle down with the bagpipes.

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He actually kept going. He brought it all the way

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into base camp and nothing. Basically, all the groups kind

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of met up after a good hour or two and

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we just decided to go back to base camp, you know,

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and just sat around the fire having fun, you know,

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telling stories and just in general having fun, and my

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brother kept playing in the base camp a little bit.

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Nothing really happened while we were in base camp.

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However, when it was more of when me and my

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father were going back to bed is when stuff like

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really kicked off that evening. So all the groups were

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in except for there was like a group of the

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more of the quote unquote BFR leaders. There was a

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couple of them that were camping on the hillside where

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my brother was playing the bagpipes for the night and

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before the group heading back. They all had thermals and

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all this high tech gear and whatnot, and one of

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them spot spotted something on the thermal. Unfortunately, just just

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how things are, none of them had the ability to

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record on their thermal. One of them spot it on

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a thermal, and then they had two other people seeing

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the exact same thing on the thermal. So it's kind

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of like one of those weird experiences. We have three

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people with three different thermals, all seeing the exact same

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thing and what they were describing. And we saw this

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the next day through the recreation. But basically it was

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this really thick hickory bush, so you like you really

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can't see through it, or like even the thermal can't

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peek through it, but they would see like the top

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of like I don't know, I describe it like a

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cone head basically, and it would like peek up and

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then go down, move like six or seven feet to

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the right, peekup, look down.

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It would keep going and it did.

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This about a dozen or so times from what I

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recall from what them saying. But it was just really

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weird that they all three of them were seeing the

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exact same thing, and this was like way thick in

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the woods, like there wasn't anybody from our group back there.

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And then on top of that, there was a third

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guy that was behind that was kind of acting as

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like a watchman. He kind of was following us, like

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thirty forty yards behind, and he kind of was trying

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to get the group's attention because he was hearing something

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walking behind them, and of course everyone when that happened,

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everyone turned the attention to wherever the walking sound was

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coming from.

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Up on the hill. It was behind us, about them

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by about.

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Twenty or thirty yards, and I personally think looking back

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to it, it was kind of like a decoy trying

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to get us to distract it because they basically were

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looking down to it in the sickory bush patch and

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there really wasn't anywhere for it to go. And there

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was the second one behind us, behind the group up

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the hill, and it was like making sounds and not

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like sounds, but it was like making really loud, like

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stopping sounds, and I think it personally distracted the group

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just long enough for the other one to get away.

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That's what the group conceded with hindsight the next day.

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So that happened, and then the group came back and

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then everyone was kind of like really pumped up after

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that happened.

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Wow, And that was that just the first day.

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Then oh, that was just the first night.

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Oh my goodness. Wow. And how late was all that happening? Again?

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This happened probably between eight pm to eleven pm, so

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in span of like three hours.

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Okay, so it happened at eleven pm. And then.

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How late did you guys go to bed or did

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you do a thing where it's like you're staying up

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all night?

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Oh, first night, I think we had to bet around

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like midnight or one in the morning. We didn't stay

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up that late, but it was when me and my dad,

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like we were going back to the truck or in

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our truck where all our food was and where they

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were my dad was me and my dad wanted a

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twinkie because we just brought some, so we went back

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to the camp to get one, and we heard this

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rustling in the bushes and we couldn't describe it, honestly,

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because there was another guy truck right next to us,

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and there was kind of a little path into the woods,

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and you know, guys using it as a cheat sheet sheet,

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We kind of used it at a little mini bathroom,

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you know, this little path into the woods, and at

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first we thought it was like them like I didn't

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really think it was much of anything until it like

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stopped moving, Like it just completely stopped, and we're like, okay, whatever,

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like if just the guy wants his privacy whatever. But

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the thing was is it kept moving, and it wasn't

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until we heard the only way I can describe it

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is if you took a two by four and just

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clean snapped it, just like you just snapped it into

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That was when I like freaked out because I was like,

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that is not a person.

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Like I was like, oh okay, We're like, oh okay,

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this is different. And then that was to our like

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facing the woods.

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That was like two hour eleven o'clock, and then a

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couple of seconds later we heard like heavy stoppings, and

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then we heard another snap to about our nine o'clock,

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and then at that point we realized, okay, this whatever,

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it's these hickory bushes. Like the owners of the house

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surrounded the entire property in these really tall, ten foot high,

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about three or four feet thick hickory bushes because you know,

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they're also were bigfooters too, so they wanted to see

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if they could bring them into the property. Essentially because

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you know, if it's a lot more.

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To their experience.

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They felt that it was a lot more comfortable if

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these things had like more security, if that makes sense,

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like to where they could just kind of freely approach

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people without being seen because you really couldn't see even

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with a flashlight, you could not see through these hickory bushes.

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But we were hearing this, and this couldn't have been

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more than thirty yards back behind these bushes. And at

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that point we went back to the cabin or to

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the group at a base camp, and we were telling like, hey,

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we think we're hearing something behind our camp. And at

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that point everyone kind of like you know, freaked out,

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and every there was a kind of a small group

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that went out into the woods.

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I didn't really go with them. I stayed in base camp.

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Like that really was freaky.

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It is just in that moment, you just hear that

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like two by four snap and you're just like, oh,

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what was that?

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You know, that's that's wild and that's a really interesting

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piece of info. So you said that the people that

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own the property were also bigfooters. So do you know

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if they did they purchase the property because they knew

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bigfoot was there, or did they discover bigfoot and just

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happened to be bigfooters.

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I couldn't tell you, but I honestly don't know. To

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be honest, I think more of it was just more

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of a convenience thing. I think they noticed it and

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just like, hey, let's just put this and plug this

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in and see what happens.

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Right, Yeah, makes sense.

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Any any interesting sounds have been recorded around the property?

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Oh yeah, definitely, not just that property in general.

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But there's another organization that we did stuff with that

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was the organ of the Olympic Project. I don't know

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if you know those guys that those guys, yeah, set

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up audio recorders like in that whole woods and they

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were showing us like what they caught over the past

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couple of years, and that was really cool.

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That's awesome. So the OP guys were there as well. Mhm,

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oh yeah, dude, that's that's great.

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Man.

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When you you guys went to sleep eventually, and were

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you woking up in the morning, anything weird happened at

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you know, like a two or three am type deal?

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Oh no, to what I remember, And I don't think

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anyone that night woke up to anything in particular.

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What's the morning like on a on a BFL exhibition.

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I mean everyone kind of like wakes up and does

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their own thing.

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It's more of they do a nightcap like a like

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a recap of what everything happened at eleven am, I

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think eleven am Danish like right around lunchtime.

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So everyone kind of did their own thing.

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But the reason before the morning thing happened, we got

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approached by the BFRO leads me dad did early in

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the morning, right after everyone broke up. They kind of

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disclosed us to the side and talk to us, and

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they wanted us to disclose what happened because they wanted.

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To wait until eleven am to really tell.

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But of course words spread of the snaps that me

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and my dad heard and they wanted the leads wanted

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to talk to us because they said that there was

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a couple of like VFRO guys that went around back

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there that morning and they had found tracks following the

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exact same line of the snaps we heard, and they

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wanted to like tell us, be like, hey, like don't

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tell anyone yet.

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You kind of want to like get the cast in.

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Before people go out there and like destroy the tracks

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because they apparently they were really good tracks. So they

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wanted to like go out there and cast it and whatnot.

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How big were the tracks.

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When we saw them, Like if you have ever seen

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tracks before, like you know what I'm talking about, Like

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it's just bizarre, it's otherworldly, like there's nothing else to

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describe it. There was about one of are the good

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the better tracker guys in our group was He said

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he was able to track it for about one hundred

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yards under the woods ish, not very far until.

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He lost it.

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But there was about seven or eight really good tracks.

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They were about six to eight inches wide and about

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twenty inches long, and they were about almost an inch

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and a half deep into the ground like and this

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wasn't mud, this was straight dirt.

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So a lot of weight to push that down, of course.

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Oh yeah. And there was another guy in our group.

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He was six' five if sixty, six he's probably two

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hundred and fifty hundred and sixty, pounds probably heavier than.

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That and he tried to jump with both feet next

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to the footprint to see how deep he could. Get

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he couldn't even get a ninch at, all not eating.

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Clothes were there any interesting details in the track casts

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that were, found like dermal, ridges or anything out of the.

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ORDINARY i was talking to, them a couple of the

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The Olympic project AND bfroro, guys and they were discussing over,

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it and they actually initially thought that somebody was hoaxing

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us because they were way too.

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Good like they'd like a lot of a couple of those.

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Guys were, saying this is, there these are the best

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tracks we've ever, gotten like in our entire Like bigfoot.

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Career they kept doing like recalls from last, night like,

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hey everyone was accounted, For like this isn't somebody hoaxing.

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Us but it was the part that just really was

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freaky is that one of the steps that came off a,

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log and the log was not only, indented but you

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could see it pressing into the ground and like the

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toads were splaying as in each, step which is obviously

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a big teller if it's fake or, not because like

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the fake ones are like the wood, clomber, RIGHT i

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don't like move around very.

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Much that is really. Cool so how did the rest

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of the group take that? Info when that was, shared.

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They they were unbelievably like, excited like it was just

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one of those cool, things because like it was one

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of those, things like others take it a step further

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to say that why we thought they were real because

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within perfect eyesight you could see the height of five

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foot to six. Foot you can't really see, much but

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somebody came in and was able to look at it

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from an angle of like six or seven, feet and

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it was a perfect eye line to our.

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Camp but Where Haickory bush's, were it completely covered.

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It you couldn't in the middle of the, dark you

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wouldn't know this thing is looking at. You and you

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could have been thirty feet away from, it because when

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it's been standing still just.

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Looking at, you it's all it.

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Did and that was like really creepy to think that

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it was just within like only a couple of yards

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of our, camp just looking at and watching.

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Us you, know, yeah, yeah that's really wild.

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Stuff was anyone able to get like a THREE d

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scan of it as well or just stick to track?

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CASTS i believe one of the organizers for the expedition

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was going to do a THREE d cast of.

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IT i cannot.

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RECALL i believe they. DID i could actually ask them,

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later BUT i don't know if they'd In.

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Ornet so everyone's everyone's pumped from the news that you

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found some, tracks and then the news of what happened

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to you and your, Father so then what happens later that.

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Day following we did a couple of day.

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Walks they actually showed us how to like cast, tracks

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WHICH i thought was kind of.

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Cool it was just cool to see like tracks being

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cast in real.

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Time did a couple of day, walks and then we

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actually did a recreation of the night before we saw

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the cone. Heads and the reason WHY i was saying

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it was around six seven feet tall is the bushes

475
00:22:35.799 --> 00:22:38.440
of the, bushline like we couldn't see the. Person we

476
00:22:38.480 --> 00:22:40.759
had actually a we had a visual like try to

477
00:22:40.759 --> 00:22:41.960
set up to see if we could see them in the.

478
00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:46.880
Bushes we totally couldn't and they're just the just the tree.

479
00:22:46.920 --> 00:22:49.279
Line it was just with hindsight when you do, recreations

480
00:22:49.359 --> 00:22:52.039
just how like well hidden a lot of things are

481
00:22:52.160 --> 00:22:54.039
in the cover of, Darkness like just things could be

482
00:22:54.119 --> 00:22:55.680
right in front of you and you just do not.

483
00:22:55.920 --> 00:22:59.519
Know it was really really freaky doing a recreation and notice, That,

484
00:22:59.559 --> 00:23:02.079
yeah this was probably at least six six to like

485
00:23:02.359 --> 00:23:05.359
seven Foot oh that's.

486
00:23:05.400 --> 00:23:09.799
Wild M, yeah what.

487
00:23:09.880 --> 00:23:12.799
Was that abound around the same time of day that

488
00:23:12.880 --> 00:23:14.519
had happened originally that you did it.

489
00:23:14.519 --> 00:23:18.480
Too, uh, yeah it.

490
00:23:18.519 --> 00:23:21.640
Was it was originally it had happened at, NIGHT i

491
00:23:21.640 --> 00:23:23.359
mean a recreation in the, day and it was just

492
00:23:23.400 --> 00:23:26.000
weird to see it like side by, side like just

493
00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:29.559
like from what everyone's. Recollections and then we actually the

494
00:23:29.680 --> 00:23:33.839
guys tried to the guy actually put on bright clothing

495
00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:36.759
Like neon green clothing and actually went up the. Hill

496
00:23:37.720 --> 00:23:39.119
it tried his best to get out there because there

497
00:23:39.160 --> 00:23:42.000
wasn't any game. Trails this was like a straight inclined,

498
00:23:42.359 --> 00:23:45.759
tail just forest and shrubs. Everywhere and he'd laid on

499
00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:48.000
the top of the hill and started making noises and

500
00:23:48.039 --> 00:23:49.880
we could hear, him but we definitely could not see.

501
00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:51.480
Him so it was just like another thing that was.

502
00:23:51.519 --> 00:23:53.440
Freaky that was just, like, oh, okay.

503
00:23:55.640 --> 00:23:56.400
Yeah that's that's.

504
00:23:56.440 --> 00:24:00.440
Crazy and you're you said it was a four DAY x. Tradition,

505
00:24:01.759 --> 00:24:05.559
yeah and that was where only that was the end

506
00:24:05.599 --> 00:24:06.359
of the second.

507
00:24:06.440 --> 00:24:10.599
Day the second, day we decided the second, night that, night,

508
00:24:10.640 --> 00:24:14.720
ops we decided to kill the bagpipes because in my personal,

509
00:24:14.720 --> 00:24:18.960
opinion and this is something that the expedition leaders agreed to,

510
00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:21.359
too is THAT i just thought it was a good

511
00:24:21.440 --> 00:24:26.599
opinion was, that let's be real, here if you're living

512
00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:29.079
out in the woods twenty four to, seven you're gonna

513
00:24:29.119 --> 00:24:31.759
get like there's nothing for you to, do, really you.

514
00:24:31.799 --> 00:24:34.000
Know so it's like when you hear something like, bagpipes

515
00:24:34.039 --> 00:24:37.039
it kind of like it's. Different it's like everyone. ELSE i,

516
00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:37.599
mean think about.

517
00:24:37.599 --> 00:24:40.440
It if somebody was playing bagpipes in their, backyard all the

518
00:24:40.480 --> 00:24:42.240
neighbors are going to open their windows being, like, who

519
00:24:42.759 --> 00:24:43.119
what the?

520
00:24:43.160 --> 00:24:44.160
World what what's going on?

521
00:24:44.240 --> 00:24:44.519
Here you.

522
00:24:44.559 --> 00:24:46.640
Know SO i think it's just like a natural response

523
00:24:46.680 --> 00:24:49.200
because they're reported to be. Curious SO i just thought

524
00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:51.359
that was. Bizarre but the second, night we killed the

525
00:24:51.359 --> 00:24:53.279
bagpipes because we thought it would be better to see, if

526
00:24:53.319 --> 00:24:56.839
like then it would make noise in response to like

527
00:24:57.119 --> 00:25:03.319
other noises that we. Did the second Group GROUP, a

528
00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:05.880
we always With GROUP b that we did split up

529
00:25:05.880 --> 00:25:11.920
into two. Teams GROUP a reported or thought that they

530
00:25:11.960 --> 00:25:12.359
were being.

531
00:25:12.400 --> 00:25:16.079
Followed nothing really happened with my. GROUP i was in

532
00:25:16.119 --> 00:25:18.559
Group nothing really happened the whole. Night But GROUP a.

533
00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:21.519
Thought they were being, followed and they had this new

534
00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:26.200
developed strategy that THE bfroro started to is using because

535
00:25:27.920 --> 00:25:31.640
people found out that these things were not really found

536
00:25:31.680 --> 00:25:33.960
out would have like come to some sort of a

537
00:25:34.119 --> 00:25:36.720
consensus that they thought that these things will mimic your

538
00:25:36.759 --> 00:25:39.799
footsteps to kind of like mask your mask there steps,

539
00:25:40.160 --> 00:25:42.279
essentially so we do like a three two one stop

540
00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:43.759
where all of this just kind of like counts down

541
00:25:43.839 --> 00:25:45.880
to one and then we. Stop and then if if

542
00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:48.640
it's all as, timed you, know you can hear like a,

543
00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:51.200
crunch crunch crunch of it like stopping like in the.

544
00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:54.440
Background and that is a really freaky, experience especially when

545
00:25:54.440 --> 00:25:57.000
it's like it's never directly behind. You it's always till

546
00:25:57.039 --> 00:26:00.960
like you're three o'clock or your six o'clock or like,

547
00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:03.839
seven like it's it's like it's your sides behind, you you,

548
00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:06.759
Know and that was really freaky for them to, hear

549
00:26:06.960 --> 00:26:09.119
like the hindsight like hearing them describe, it you, know.

550
00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:12.200
Did you actually hear that play?

551
00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:19.759
OUT i personally heard that the third, night which was

552
00:26:19.839 --> 00:26:22.119
the final. NIGHT i heard that on the final, Night

553
00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:24.960
but the second, night, no nothing really. HAPPENS i had

554
00:26:24.960 --> 00:26:30.480
a pair of paarabolics on AND i heard whistling, constantly

555
00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:33.400
which we deduced the later by listening to whistling sounds of.

556
00:26:33.400 --> 00:26:35.319
Birds it was a, bird but it was just really

557
00:26:35.319 --> 00:26:37.079
cool to hear like a pair of, paarabolics you, know

558
00:26:37.240 --> 00:26:39.480
just listening to. It but, yeah that was really all

559
00:26:39.480 --> 00:26:41.079
that happened night. Too we were hoping to try to

560
00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:43.400
lead it into the camp, again and, no nothing really

561
00:26:43.400 --> 00:26:43.960
happened with, that.

562
00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:49.359
Gotcha so you got the lot of stuff on the first,

563
00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:56.400
day recreation on the second, day and then the third

564
00:26:56.519 --> 00:26:59.440
day sounds like that was your your last day to

565
00:26:59.519 --> 00:27:03.640
try to get stuff to happen, again because fourth day

566
00:27:04.279 --> 00:27:07.079
it doesn't sound like much happened or it's the last.

567
00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:09.559
See we just kind of pack up and pack up and.

568
00:27:09.640 --> 00:27:12.839
Leave but the third day that was really.

569
00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:17.279
Interesting there was a guy who showed us basically this

570
00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:19.920
sound system that he set up in The Olympic peninsula

571
00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:22.559
that he would just record sound and he would just

572
00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:25.440
spend hours just going through. It he would record years

573
00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:27.480
worth of sound and then go through that audio. Logue

574
00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:29.880
it was really interesting the stuff that he was, caught

575
00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:32.559
like because he was saying that there was a recent

576
00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:35.160
study out of then out OF i don't know what

577
00:27:35.240 --> 00:27:38.160
college it, was but that specifically chimpanzees can see infra,

578
00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:41.079
red which which was what trail cameras see they see

579
00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:43.279
in for, red so which is why when they were

580
00:27:43.279 --> 00:27:46.200
trying to take trail camera footage footage of, champanzees they

581
00:27:46.200 --> 00:27:46.960
couldn't ever get.

582
00:27:46.960 --> 00:27:49.400
Them they champanzees.

583
00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:51.359
Were, elusive but when they put up audio, recorders they

584
00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:53.599
were hearing the chimpanzees left and, right left and. Right

585
00:27:53.880 --> 00:27:55.880
so this guy who came to our, expedition who was

586
00:27:55.920 --> 00:27:57.880
telling us about, it he thought it was, actually, wait

587
00:27:57.880 --> 00:27:59.759
why don't just apply the exact same knowledge the Big,

588
00:27:59.759 --> 00:28:02.640
Foot like just no trail, cameras only audio, recorders and

589
00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:04.319
he was showing us some of the things he. Caught

590
00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:07.240
it was pretty, cool just things he's caught over the,

591
00:28:07.319 --> 00:28:10.400
years like random weird sounds like he wouldn't expect to

592
00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:10.799
hear in a.

593
00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:11.400
Forest you.

594
00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:16.680
Know was that a op? Guy, YEAH i BET i

595
00:28:16.720 --> 00:28:17.119
know who that.

596
00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:20.759
Was, YEAH i think we both know what we were talking.

597
00:28:20.799 --> 00:28:21.880
About he's a really cool.

598
00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:22.160
Dude.

599
00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:25.799
Cool, yeah, yeah.

600
00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:28.039
Oh he's so. Nice we're talking about the exact same.

601
00:28:28.039 --> 00:28:32.440
Guy but, yeah it was really cool to listen to

602
00:28:32.519 --> 00:28:34.880
all the things he's caught and heard over the. Years

603
00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:44.200
and that day nothing really too much, happened but it

604
00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:46.799
was that night was ACTUALLY i think was like the

605
00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:48.960
highlight of the whole. TRIP i, mean the foot trips

606
00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:51.200
obviously were like its own, highlight.

607
00:28:50.599 --> 00:28:55.160
But it was just more of my personal. Highlight and

608
00:28:56.559 --> 00:28:59.720
so the final night we did exact same. Thing we

609
00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:02.000
brought the bagpipes because we're, like, okay it worked the first,

610
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:04.200
night not the second. Night so common sense kind of tells, You,

611
00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:09.359
okay let's bring up the bagpipes. Again and we did

612
00:29:09.599 --> 00:29:12.759
three groups, Again guys on the. Hill there's a there

613
00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:15.079
were guys circling the mountain and we were on the

614
00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:22.279
hillside and the hill it this time going down the,

615
00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:25.039
hill we didn't hear anything and there Was it just

616
00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:27.359
felt dead the whole, night you, know like just the

617
00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:30.319
whole night there was just. Nothing AND i was with

618
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:33.759
a group of people and we just it was just

619
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:34.240
our last.

620
00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:35.880
Night it's like one in the, morning nothing.

621
00:29:35.920 --> 00:29:37.799
Happened and me and a group of people we were, like,

622
00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:39.680
yeah let's we want to find something like this is

623
00:29:39.680 --> 00:29:41.759
our last. Night we're gonna go, out we're gonna Come

624
00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:43.759
we're gonna come, back not until the sun, rises you.

625
00:29:43.759 --> 00:29:47.119
Know and so this is really pretty. Cool there's this one,

626
00:29:47.119 --> 00:29:51.359
guy a survival, expert my brother in a Literal afghanistan,

627
00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:53.279
Vet like the four of us just went running out

628
00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:56.559
in the like running out of the, woods went really

629
00:29:56.640 --> 00:29:58.680
deep into the. Woods we went like at least two

630
00:29:58.759 --> 00:30:01.519
miles in like just ran him off the trail game

631
00:30:01.519 --> 00:30:07.240
trail we're going, in and one of the expedition leaders is, like,

632
00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:09.039
wait why don't we just start like doing. Knocks we're

633
00:30:09.039 --> 00:30:10.759
deep enough to where they're definitely not going to hear

634
00:30:10.839 --> 00:30:13.079
us and the radios couldn't pick it, up so like,

635
00:30:13.160 --> 00:30:16.240
yeah so we started the form us started doing knocks

636
00:30:16.680 --> 00:30:17.079
for a little.

637
00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:19.319
Bit we sat there for a, bit nothing really.

638
00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:21.640
Happened we were there out for like an hour and

639
00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:24.680
a half, ish and we decided to walk. BACK i

640
00:30:24.680 --> 00:30:28.160
had a pair of pair of bollocks on The afghanistan.

641
00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:29.119
Event i'm not kidding.

642
00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:31.880
You brought his actual military great helmet with like the

643
00:30:31.920 --> 00:30:33.640
ear muffs and the ike goggles and.

644
00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:35.480
Everything it was something out of like call of. Duty

645
00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:39.359
it was really. Cool and the other.

646
00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:41.920
Travel guy bought his like first aid kit in his

647
00:30:42.119 --> 00:30:44.480
massive like survival, bag and my brother bought a pair

648
00:30:44.519 --> 00:30:46.240
of night vision goggles as, well so we were like

649
00:30:46.359 --> 00:30:49.599
very set. Up but it was when we started walking

650
00:30:49.720 --> 00:30:53.319
back was when the creepy stuff started to. Happen so at,

651
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:58.039
first the only WAY i could describe it is if

652
00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:01.279
this wasn't as loud as a two by four. Snap

653
00:31:01.319 --> 00:31:05.480
it just sounded like like you're just like walking by

654
00:31:05.519 --> 00:31:08.440
a tree and you like grab upon a low hanging

655
00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:10.000
branch that's like just at your eye level and you

656
00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:11.039
hang on it and you like let it.

657
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:13.240
Snap it's that's what it sounded. Like you.

658
00:31:13.279 --> 00:31:17.759
KNOW i heard, that and both me and the guy

659
00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:20.160
at time them the that He we both looked at

660
00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:21.799
each other because he had hands hearing AND i did hance,

661
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:22.839
hearing and we're, like, oh did you hear?

662
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:23.519
That we're, like, yeah you.

663
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:25.240
Did it's just kind of one of those cool moments

664
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:26.759
where it's like when you you both know you're not

665
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:28.960
going insane because you're with you both like each other,

666
00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:29.559
like oh did you hear?

667
00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:29.799
That you?

668
00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:32.440
Know, Right so we stopped for a, minute we heard,

669
00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:36.920
something and then we started hearing the footsteps again and

670
00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:39.559
it was behind, us to our. Right it was like

671
00:31:39.599 --> 00:31:42.480
around five o'clock ish behind, us so, like, okay, cool

672
00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:45.599
so let's let's. That's one thing that they told us

673
00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:47.839
was that, like if you think it's following you don't

674
00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:50.119
let it think that it's following, you like if that makes,

675
00:31:50.119 --> 00:31:53.039
Sense like you want to outsmart. It you want to

676
00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:54.920
make sure that you want to act like a normal.

677
00:31:54.920 --> 00:31:57.200
Person and it's just because it's. Curious the moment you

678
00:31:58.119 --> 00:31:59.799
thinks you're, timid it's not going to want to up,

679
00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:01.960
broke you. Know so we just kept walking and we

680
00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:04.000
did the whole three two one, stop you, Know and

681
00:32:04.039 --> 00:32:06.559
that's WHEN i got to hear the heavy.

682
00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:08.480
Just the the, leaves just, crunch, crunch.

683
00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:11.079
Crunch that's WHAT i got to hear it with a parabolics,

684
00:32:11.119 --> 00:32:13.480
on which is just enhanced. Hearing and that was streaky

685
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:16.559
when both me and the vet looked at each other

686
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:19.200
and we're, like, yeah this thing is definitely following. Us

687
00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:22.720
and it wasn't that far behind. Us it was probably

688
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:27.960
around fifty yards. Ish but the thing is is that

689
00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:30.079
that's the other part that spreaks me, out is you

690
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:32.079
kind of know when this thing's around because you don't

691
00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:35.119
hear any, birds you don't hear any. Nightlife it's just dead,

692
00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:38.000
quiet so the sound kind of carries farther when there's no,

693
00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:42.680
nightlife you. Know and we started walking and we kept

694
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:46.640
going back towards the trail and we were, like you know,

695
00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:48.880
what the one of the leaders group is, Like i've

696
00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:51.359
been practicing all year to do like an intimidation. GROWL

697
00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:54.720
i want to try. It so he turned around and

698
00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:56.960
we waited for a, second and then he did the

699
00:32:57.119 --> 00:32:59.359
really loud LIKE i don't even describe, it like a

700
00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:03.160
gorilla grunt or. Something and the part that really scared

701
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:05.039
me and this, thing, actually this actually still scares me

702
00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:09.200
to this. Day we actually heard the footsteps go backwards

703
00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:11.759
and just proceeded to go backwards into the woods until

704
00:33:11.799 --> 00:33:13.759
we couldn't hear it. Anymore it just kept going until

705
00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:17.599
we couldn't hear. It that freaked me. Out, yeah and

706
00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:22.720
then a couple of seconds later we walked back down the.

707
00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:25.559
Trail we're on an actual page trail at this, point

708
00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:27.720
like the main like trail you'd see in the woods

709
00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:30.680
where like bikes would go back and forth and whatnot behind. Us,

710
00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:34.440
immediately me and the vet turned around because the only

711
00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:35.880
WAY i can describe it is it sounded like you

712
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:38.359
took a rock like about the size of a softball

713
00:33:38.440 --> 00:33:40.240
and just threw it along the. Pavement you, know you're

714
00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:43.119
like that skidding. Sound, yep you heard two of, those

715
00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:44.279
just like skid, skidding and just.

716
00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:45.799
Like across the. Room we all turned. Around it was

717
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:46.200
like was that a?

718
00:33:46.279 --> 00:33:49.000
Rock like it was only like thirty feet behind, us

719
00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:51.279
but it was just like what it was just, weird

720
00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:53.960
and we kept did the whole three two one stop

721
00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:55.759
again and then we heard it. Again we're, Like, okay this,

722
00:33:55.920 --> 00:33:58.039
THING i don't know it's, back but it's back for,

723
00:33:58.160 --> 00:33:58.559
something you.

724
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:00.640
Know didn't a couple more.

725
00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:02.759
Times the final time when we got closest to the,

726
00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:08.599
camp we didn't hear. Anything but on that trip we headed,

727
00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:10.719
back we told everybody about what was going, on so

728
00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:13.440
everyone's kind of on kine site and high, alert you,

729
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:16.880
know but nothing else happened that night the rest of that,

730
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:18.599
night but at that point it was like three in the,

731
00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:20.360
morning so it's like the whole night had been spent

732
00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:20.679
at that.

733
00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:20.960
Point.

734
00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:25.119
Yeah oh, Wow oh that must have been hard to

735
00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:26.760
go to sleep after that for.

736
00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:29.000
Sure yeah, Right.

737
00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:35.199
So, yeah was THAT i, mean after, that then you

738
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:41.000
are you're pretty, much you, know getting camp all packed.

739
00:34:41.079 --> 00:34:43.079
Up but was that do you think that was the

740
00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:44.559
craziest thing that happened during that?

741
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:45.159
Expedition?

742
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:50.559
THEN I the footprints were definitely. Freaky they were just

743
00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:51.079
bizarre to.

744
00:34:51.079 --> 00:34:54.000
SEE i think experiencing this type stuff in real time

745
00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:57.000
is what freaked me. Out to actually hear the footsteps behind,

746
00:34:57.039 --> 00:34:59.400
you to hear a rock skidding across the, pavement you,

747
00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:02.239
know and to look at another person who is a

748
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:05.480
military vet who uses this stuff all the, time have

749
00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:07.000
panic on his face and he's, like what the?

750
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:07.559
Heck what's? That?

751
00:35:08.039 --> 00:35:09.199
Right that was freaking.

752
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:12.039
See to just be, like, oh, okay have.

753
00:35:12.039 --> 00:35:16.079
There been any any visuals on that property or in that.

754
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:16.480
Area.

755
00:35:18.199 --> 00:35:23.480
Uh supposedly other people who come on their on their

756
00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:29.559
own personal they have, too not on that expedition, particularly but,

757
00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:33.400
yeah that was really bizarre to.

758
00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:35.440
Hear you, know that's.

759
00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:40.440
Wild So i'm guessing there was probably like some final

760
00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:45.440
uh no you said it was called nightcap or you,

761
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:47.960
know there's probably a final media the next. Morning and

762
00:35:48.519 --> 00:35:51.559
was this uh is this par for the course for

763
00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:53.760
FOR bfr expeditions or do you think it was a

764
00:35:53.840 --> 00:35:55.079
little bit more actually than?

765
00:35:55.159 --> 00:35:59.400
Usual it was a little bit more action than usual

766
00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:02.920
usual to they were. Saying but they followed still all

767
00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:05.599
like the protocol you, know with like the expeditions and

768
00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:09.840
like the meetings and. Whatnot it was still really fun.

769
00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:11.719
Though that's.

770
00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:13.119
Awesome would you do this?

771
00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:16.440
Again oh, Totally i'm doing this again In. July.

772
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:19.840
Wow do you think it's going to be the same

773
00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:22.320
area or, no.

774
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:26.719
It's, Different this place. Different they actually one of the reasons.

775
00:36:26.360 --> 00:36:28.599
Why i'm not revealing the place of, it not just

776
00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:31.320
because it's private, property but it's because this is An

777
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:35.920
olympic project AND bfro. Collision everyone played their, part everyone was,

778
00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:38.880
happy everyone had their. Fun so this was really this

779
00:36:38.920 --> 00:36:39.519
was a really fun.

780
00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:42.639
Expedition, yeah that's awesome that you were able to experience,

781
00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:46.320
that because That you're, right that is a very rare,

782
00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:50.079
event AND i don't Think i've heard of too many

783
00:36:50.119 --> 00:36:54.039
more too many other events happening like that in the

784
00:36:54.079 --> 00:36:55.039
past in that.

785
00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:56.480
Area so that's.

786
00:36:56.519 --> 00:37:00.639
Awesome it sounds like then after that pretty much all

787
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:03.920
went your your own. Ways but you'd said there's something

788
00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:07.760
else that had also happened to you at a, Point.

789
00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:11.159
Oh, yeah so this place.

790
00:37:11.719 --> 00:37:13.519
Around we kind of went all of our separate ways from,

791
00:37:13.559 --> 00:37:16.800
there and people kind of kind of The facebook page

792
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:18.440
that they kept for this kind of died, off and

793
00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:20.920
everyone kind of those. Ways this is back in Last,

794
00:37:21.159 --> 00:37:24.960
july but Then february this was. Recent this Last, february

795
00:37:26.159 --> 00:37:28.960
one of my really close friends was coming back from

796
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:31.159
college early AND i wanted to hang out with.

797
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:32.119
Him so we went out to his.

798
00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:36.199
Property he lives out In Port orchard and there there

799
00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:38.360
was an old cemetery in that. Area he wanted to

800
00:37:38.360 --> 00:37:41.039
show me it because they had just renovated, it because

801
00:37:41.039 --> 00:37:43.320
it was like these were like graves going back to

802
00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:48.239
like the eighteen, Fifties like these are really old, graves

803
00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:51.360
and they revenovated it so because they want to like

804
00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:54.920
just keep preserved the, history you. Know and he wanted

805
00:37:54.920 --> 00:37:57.760
to show me it because the contractors had just finished

806
00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:01.599
like the week. Prior so we went up there and

807
00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:03.639
it was just one of those things where it was

808
00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:05.840
just LIKE i don't describe, it like you just feel

809
00:38:05.880 --> 00:38:07.239
like something is watching you while you're up.

810
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:07.639
There the whole.

811
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:12.079
Time we tried to go back in the, woods and you,

812
00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:14.000
KNOW i was just telling him from my own personal,

813
00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:17.760
experience like you, know just The bigfoot and going back

814
00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:18.320
on the previous.

815
00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:21.599
Expedition he thought it was really cool, too and you,

816
00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:23.599
know we're in the, woods you, know having, fun just

817
00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:25.679
two teenage young. Adults and.

818
00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:30.760
It was when we were walking out of the woods

819
00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:33.559
or out of the cemetery is when like weird stuff.

820
00:38:33.559 --> 00:38:36.840
HAPPENED i can't describe, It like coming back from the,

821
00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:39.000
cemetery we heard.

822
00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:40.880
Like it.

823
00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:42.280
Was that's the part THAT i don't want TO i

824
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:44.480
don't want to describe it AS ptsd because it was

825
00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:46.599
just like freaky to hear it. Again but it was

826
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:50.199
just that exact same two by four just snap coming

827
00:38:50.199 --> 00:38:52.159
from this back from the cemetery and we're like already

828
00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:55.239
twenty five thirty yards. Away we're walking down and at

829
00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:57.280
that POINT i was, like, Okay i'm walking, Back like,

830
00:38:57.360 --> 00:38:59.480
dude this is hearing that two times in a row

831
00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:02.599
and span like six, times like of like from two separate.

832
00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:05.199
Events is just, weird you. Know so we went all

833
00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:06.599
the way. BACK i walked all the way. BACK i

834
00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:09.119
didn't see, anything didn't hear, anything but it was just

835
00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:11.599
more of that moment where it's just, like, yeah whatever

836
00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:12.239
it is just.

837
00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:14.880
Doesn't want me, there you. Know so we walked back.

838
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:18.320
Again but on the way back we took a separate,

839
00:39:18.440 --> 00:39:21.159
route you, know because if you, know the layout of

840
00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:23.039
Port orchard kind of like is a. Circle so we

841
00:39:23.079 --> 00:39:26.239
walked all the way back around and on our way

842
00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:27.039
back around to his.

843
00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:29.239
House this was really.

844
00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:31.199
CREEPY i actually got photos of it AND i sent

845
00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:33.559
this to a couple of people in the bfrow and

846
00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:36.480
they thought it was really cool. TOO i saw we

847
00:39:36.559 --> 00:39:40.800
saw a peerage in the mountain side because it was

848
00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:42.760
like a highway and it kind of on the left

849
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:45.039
hand side kind of turns down into a bank where

850
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:47.119
there's like a, riverbed and then going up to the

851
00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:50.440
right hand, side it is like this huge steep hill you,

852
00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:53.280
know with like, trees you, know Stereotypical Pacific northwest like

853
00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:57.000
rainforest type like, looks but in the woods there's this

854
00:39:57.119 --> 00:40:00.280
like gap in like the bushes coming.

855
00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:01.840
Down there was.

856
00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:06.239
These muddy footprints in the in the driveway and like

857
00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:08.199
the driveway in the in the road in the, highway

858
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:09.920
and it goes all the way off into the river

859
00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:11.519
the trackscicle all the way down to the river bank

860
00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:13.920
and then on the other side through the river and

861
00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:17.239
up the other. Side and this actually freaked me out

862
00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:20.079
because it was the exact same type. LOOKAGE i guess

863
00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:24.320
if the ones from the previous summer were, like it's

864
00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:27.320
just the exact same, style you, know single file four feet,

865
00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:28.840
apart about the same.

866
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:30.000
Size these ones were definitely.

867
00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:34.400
Smaller these ones were like six inches wide and about

868
00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:37.320
probably fifteen sixteen inches. Long BUT i actually put my

869
00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:39.320
boot up next to. It i'm, like, oh these are,

870
00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:41.199
Small like at FIRST i thought this was somebody running.

871
00:40:41.239 --> 00:40:43.000
DOWN i put my boot up next to, it And i'm,

872
00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:44.800
LIKE i wear size thirteen and, men And i'm, like

873
00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:47.559
this is at least four or five inches longer than

874
00:40:47.599 --> 00:40:49.920
my foot AND i can see like, Toes like this

875
00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:53.000
is not. Okay so me and my friend are freaking

876
00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:55.880
out because we're like we're just seeing like the track,

877
00:40:55.960 --> 00:40:58.360
line like just the breakage of the bushes coming down

878
00:40:58.599 --> 00:41:00.599
like the hill and onto the road and then just

879
00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:03.639
into the river. Bed and it looked relatively fresh, too

880
00:41:03.679 --> 00:41:06.280
because this is a, highway you, know there's like mud

881
00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:08.800
on the road, still so like if cars are passing,

882
00:41:08.840 --> 00:41:11.400
by you, know it'll it'll, ruin it'll ruin these like mud,

883
00:41:11.400 --> 00:41:13.920
lines you. Know SO i just thought that was really

884
00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:16.400
freaky to, see you, know in the middle Of february

885
00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:16.639
of all.

886
00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:19.400
Things, yeah that that is. Wild did you say you

887
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:20.719
got pictures of? That?

888
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:24.519
YEAH i got pictures of the track, Line the track

889
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:26.679
line and the footprints side by, side and my friend

890
00:41:26.679 --> 00:41:28.280
got the track, line AND i got the photo of

891
00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:31.000
the footprints of my boot right up next to, it

892
00:41:31.559 --> 00:41:33.079
of the best, one because they were all like you

893
00:41:33.079 --> 00:41:35.320
could see the outline of the foot but it wasn't

894
00:41:35.320 --> 00:41:37.639
like really, defined you, know because it's this is on

895
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:40.079
a this is on a, highway but the one because

896
00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:42.199
it's stepped in the gravel and the Gravel i'm not

897
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:45.320
kidding you like pushed the gravel down and you could

898
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:47.760
see the toe, line like the where the toes, were

899
00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:49.760
because like just how heavy it. WAS i was just

900
00:41:49.840 --> 00:41:52.000
freaking out kind of like this is, Gravel like how

901
00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:53.079
is this like creating this in?

902
00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:53.679
Gravel you?

903
00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:55.880
Know AND i sent those a couple of MY bfro

904
00:41:56.039 --> 00:41:57.960
guys and they thought it was the ones from the previous.

905
00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:00.760
EXPEDITION i still had their numbers and their techt information

906
00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:02.280
AND i sent it to them and they thought it

907
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:02.920
was really cool as.

908
00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:09.440
Well, jonathan you you have experienced some pretty pretty cool

909
00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:14.000
things over over the LAST i mean not even a,

910
00:42:14.119 --> 00:42:19.320
year and this is your first foray into. It what

911
00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:22.880
do you hope to expect from when you go out

912
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:23.559
again this?

913
00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:28.760
Year, HONESTLY i don't know If i'm Gonna i'm not

914
00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:30.719
expecting much BECAUSE i don't think it's going to, Happen

915
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:33.400
like lightning doesn't strike twice in the exact same. Spot you,

916
00:42:33.400 --> 00:42:35.760
know If i'm not expecting, Much i'm more of because

917
00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:38.400
Like i've developed friendships with these BFRO o. People that's

918
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:40.159
the thing is that they don't tell, you is you

919
00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:42.199
develop if you do this right and you are just

920
00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:43.920
a genuine good, person they.

921
00:42:43.960 --> 00:42:46.199
Will they're genuine good people. Too SO i Just.

922
00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:48.000
I'm more there just to hang out and have fun

923
00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:50.079
because these guys are really. Cool, like once these bfro

924
00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:51.800
guys want you get to know, them they're pretty cool.

925
00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:53.320
Dudes SO i just want to go out and have.

926
00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:55.440
Fun it's Just bigfoot's just the side, piece you.

927
00:42:55.480 --> 00:42:59.400
Know, yeah you, know it's it's very weird, that you,

928
00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:02.039
know if if it's people where they tend to have the,

929
00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:07.079
right the good intention when they go, out those people

930
00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:12.159
usually tend to have stuff more happen than it's a

931
00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:14.239
guy going out and he's, like, Oh i'm just in

932
00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:19.440
it for the money and the, fame and you're probably

933
00:43:19.480 --> 00:43:21.800
not going to have too much. Happen but that might

934
00:43:21.880 --> 00:43:24.559
just be. Coincidence who. KNOWS i got to ask you

935
00:43:24.639 --> 00:43:28.960
the question that usually always gets, asked but do you

936
00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:33.280
have any thoughts as to what you think bigfoot is

937
00:43:33.360 --> 00:43:36.280
just from what you've experienced so?

938
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:37.719
Far, SO.

939
00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:42.480
I, mean this is something that one of The Olympic

940
00:43:42.519 --> 00:43:45.119
peninsula guys, said AND i thought it was really, profound was,

941
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:47.000
THAT i, know the reason WHY.

942
00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:49.960
I think it's lesh and blood is because, leaves, scatt, leave, footprints, leaves,

943
00:43:49.960 --> 00:43:53.960
hair what else the, leaves, footprints, scat and, hair, deer, elk,

944
00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:57.400
moose like every general animal you. Know so it's LIKE

945
00:43:58.280 --> 00:43:59.880
i get the argument for saying but.

946
00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:05.920
That it's, spiritual but like, ALSO i, mean anything else

947
00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:08.480
could be, spiritual so it's like it just could be.

948
00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:11.159
Anything at that, Point i'm more and more attached to

949
00:44:11.199 --> 00:44:13.920
the physical side of, it because it's like if there

950
00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:16.000
wasn't we don't we call it bigfoot because it leads

951
00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:17.760
big foot, tracks you, know?

952
00:44:18.119 --> 00:44:18.320
Right?

953
00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:24.880
True and good, POINT a good. Point so, definitely if

954
00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:31.239
flesh and, blood do you are you thinking more of

955
00:44:31.239 --> 00:44:36.199
of a ape type creature or maybe something that's you,

956
00:44:36.239 --> 00:44:40.039
know a lost human type creature or do you have

957
00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:40.800
any thoughts about?

958
00:44:40.800 --> 00:44:45.079
That actually that's the part Why i'm so, curious AND

959
00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:48.119
i don't, know because LIKE i. MYSELF i don't.

960
00:44:48.159 --> 00:44:49.920
Know i've just listened to a lot of these spiritual,

961
00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:52.000
podcasts if that makes, sense BECAUSE i, Myself i'm A,

962
00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:53.760
christian so a lot of my friends who've done this,

963
00:44:53.800 --> 00:44:55.760
before they just describe it as like a demonic. Thing

964
00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:57.320
that's the part WHERE i went out, there WHEN i

965
00:44:57.360 --> 00:44:59.440
experienced this AND i got so close to, IT i

966
00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:04.239
didn't fel that weird like like spiritual the like presence or.

967
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:06.800
Whatever it's more of just felt, curiosity which made me

968
00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:09.599
more inclined to think THAT i think this is more

969
00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:12.599
of just an, animal like a like a just a

970
00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:14.480
not half, sentient.

971
00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:15.760
But more of like a just an ape that just

972
00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:17.440
has a bit more of a brain to, it you. Know.

973
00:45:18.679 --> 00:45:22.800
Sure so so your, Friends i'm gonna guess they're probably

974
00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:26.519
they're thinking that it's like some type of like nephile m.

975
00:45:26.519 --> 00:45:30.800
Or yeah that's what they. THINK i. Mean as, old

976
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:32.320
the argument, goes there's two there's two.

977
00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:34.199
Crowds there's a flesh and blood and they call them

978
00:45:34.320 --> 00:45:35.840
THE wu crowd OR i, DON'T i don't know what

979
00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:36.119
they call.

980
00:45:36.159 --> 00:45:36.280
Them.

981
00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:39.199
Now, no that that's that's you, know pretty pretty much

982
00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:45.519
dead on that is is pretty much the big distinction right,

983
00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:49.519
now which you, know there's there hasn't been one uh

984
00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:53.639
captured that we know of that's been, studied so you,

985
00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:58.920
know kind of who knows so. Far But, Man jonathan

986
00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:03.079
has been a a fun chat with. You it's it's

987
00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:07.840
always interesting to see events like this from the viewpoint

988
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:12.360
of someone that is you, know hasn't been going out

989
00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:14.440
for twenty years BECAUSE i talked To i've talked to

990
00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:19.119
a FEW bfroro researchers and they definitely have a certain.

991
00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:22.199
Viewpoint but it's very cool to see things from someone

992
00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:26.920
who is new to the subject and be interesting to you,

993
00:46:26.960 --> 00:46:30.880
know definitely keep in, touch be interesting to see if

994
00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:35.559
anything happens in the future for you as. Well but

995
00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:38.960
thank you so much for coming. On and how do

996
00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:41.159
people you, know if they want to go on their

997
00:46:41.159 --> 00:46:43.559
own expedition with THE, bfro how do they do that.

998
00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:49.639
With THE. Bfroro, yeah just.

999
00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:51.920
Go literally just go on THE bfr website and then

1000
00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:55.960
just like look at expeditions in your. Area the fee

1001
00:46:56.000 --> 00:46:58.039
there is a, fee like it's like a three hundred

1002
00:46:58.039 --> 00:46:59.719
to five hundred dollars fee and it sounds like a

1003
00:46:59.719 --> 00:47:01.920
lot of, money but when you think about it from

1004
00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:05.719
the place of that money is not really going To Matt.

1005
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:08.039
Moneymaker LIKE i know a lot of people are to

1006
00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:11.239
have negative views Towards Matt, moneymaker WHICH i don't really

1007
00:47:11.320 --> 00:47:13.239
care too, much AND i don't really pay attention to

1008
00:47:13.239 --> 00:47:15.039
the bigfoot, politics you. Know but when you put it

1009
00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:17.079
in perspective that most of this money isn't going to,

1010
00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:19.639
him it's actually going to the expedition, leads the guys

1011
00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:21.760
that are literally driving out of their way from Like

1012
00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:24.039
Scott taylor for an, example he drove it From.

1013
00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:25.519
OREGON a couple of guys drove it From.

1014
00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:28.079
Idaho they're getting reimbursed for gas money BECAUSE i, mean

1015
00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:29.639
like you don't want to drive all the way From

1016
00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:32.639
boising back Or portland and, back you. Know so it's

1017
00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:34.639
like these guys are doing it for. Fun they're doing

1018
00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:39.000
it because they want to experience the, attention the, love

1019
00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:41.400
and the dedication that they've put into this hobby to you,

1020
00:47:41.519 --> 00:47:43.119
guys and they're trying to put it to you guys

1021
00:47:43.119 --> 00:47:46.559
on a silver, platter showing that like years of experience

1022
00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:48.320
they just want to give to. You all they want

1023
00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:50.400
to do is just have a good. Time and, honestly

1024
00:47:51.719 --> 00:47:54.320
three to five hundred bucks for. It IT'S i think that's.

1025
00:47:54.360 --> 00:47:56.960
Reasonable it's really worth. It like you couldn't put a

1026
00:47:56.960 --> 00:47:58.840
price tag on that. Experience it was just really.

1027
00:47:58.880 --> 00:48:02.559
Cool, Yeah AND i think the connections that you would

1028
00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:06.440
make out of it and the people potentially you could

1029
00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:09.440
meet at one of these, events that, alone to, me

1030
00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:12.199
would would probably be worth it in. ITSELF i mean

1031
00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:16.920
you you, had, yeah a few met op, members you,

1032
00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:18.760
know and were able to chat with, them AND i

1033
00:48:18.800 --> 00:48:20.239
mean that alone is is.

1034
00:48:20.360 --> 00:48:22.360
Awesome so oh it.

1035
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:24.239
Is It's actually they're very rare and hard to get

1036
00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:26.280
ahold of, apparently and so actually getting to meet them

1037
00:48:26.519 --> 00:48:30.320
and like experiencing like just talking to, Them like those

1038
00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:32.280
guys are like veterans and they have years of experience

1039
00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:35.239
and just hearing their. STORIES i got some wild stories

1040
00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:36.639
AND i love just listening to.

1041
00:48:36.679 --> 00:48:36.960
Them you.

1042
00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:41.079
Know OH i bet man THAT i bet the stories

1043
00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:45.440
that are shared on those expeditions are pretty. Wild BUT

1044
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:50.760
i bet they also probably stay in the. Expedition oh, yeah.

1045
00:48:50.840 --> 00:48:53.719
DUDE i talked to a lot of guys that actually

1046
00:48:53.840 --> 00:48:55.639
a couple of the guys who actually worked on Finding

1047
00:48:55.639 --> 00:48:58.039
bigfoot actually were there at the expedition and they were

1048
00:48:58.079 --> 00:49:00.079
telling me like behind the, scenes like the tea.

1049
00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:02.280
Show like how it went down and it was just

1050
00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:04.800
like really. Different it was really. Cool like here somebody

1051
00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:07.280
who worked behind the, scenes like tell how it works

1052
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:09.039
behind the, scenes like how weird it. Was you, Know,

1053
00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:11.719
oh that would be.

1054
00:49:11.760 --> 00:49:16.400
AWESOME i can PROBABLY i BET i can guess want

1055
00:49:16.480 --> 00:49:19.440
OR i can guess who those guys, are BUT i.

1056
00:49:19.480 --> 00:49:23.079
Won't but, yeah that's the cool thing about The Pacific

1057
00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:27.559
Northwest events is you have some really cool people showing.

1058
00:49:27.639 --> 00:49:33.079
Up But, jonathan thank you so much for uh for

1059
00:49:33.159 --> 00:49:35.440
reaching out to, me And i'm glad we had this.

1060
00:49:35.519 --> 00:49:37.880
CHAT i think this is a fun, One so thank.

1061
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:39.840
You, yeah you're.

1062
00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:42.960
WELCOME i just wanted to take a minute to say

1063
00:49:42.960 --> 00:49:45.119
thank you truly for listening to this episode of the

1064
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:48.679
Big Foot society. Podcast jonathan's story stands out not just

1065
00:49:48.719 --> 00:49:51.280
because of the cone headed figure caught on thermal or

1066
00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:53.800
the chilling crack of a branch at eleven o'clock at,

1067
00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:57.400
night but because it reminds us how, curiosity sometimes in

1068
00:49:57.400 --> 00:50:01.159
the form of a, bagpipe can lead to unexpect moments of, connection,

1069
00:50:01.400 --> 00:50:05.920
wonder and maybe even. Contact if you enjoy this, conversation

1070
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:08.119
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1072
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1073
00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:15.880
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1074
00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:19.039
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1075
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1076
00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:24.599
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1077
00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:26.760
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1078
00:50:26.840 --> 00:50:29.920
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1079
00:50:29.920 --> 00:50:32.400
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1080
00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:35.679
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1081
00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:38.239
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1082
00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:41.320
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1083
00:50:41.360 --> 00:50:43.800
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1084
00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:44.000
in the.

1085
00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:44.360
Woods