April 8, 2025

Bigfoot in Bluff Creek | New Sightings!

Join host Jeremiah Byron with the Bigfoot Society for an exclusive interview with Donn Clarius, who shares his intense and harrowing encounter with Sasquatch at the famous Bluff Creek film site in 1970. From hearing strange noises to seeing an 8-foot...

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Season 1

Join host Jeremiah Byron with the Bigfoot Society for an exclusive interview with Donn Clarius, who shares his intense and harrowing encounter with Sasquatch at the famous Bluff Creek film site in 1970. From hearing strange noises to seeing an 8-foot tall creature with glowing red eyes, Donn recounts his chilling experience that took place just two years after the iconic Patterson-Gimlin film was shot. Discover the challenges of navigating the dense forest, the eerie silence that filled the air, and the moments of sheer terror that Don and his friend Ken faced during their spring break adventure in northern California. Additionally, Rory Zoerb sends in more experiences and theories about Sasquatch sightings in Bluff Creek during the 1990s. Don’t miss this gripping episode filled with historical Bigfoot lore, theories, and personal stories of epic encounters in the heart of Sasquatch territory.

Hear more from Rory Zoerb's Bluff Creek Adventures in Episode 697!

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slash the Bigfoot Society and now let's get on with

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the show. All right, Bigfoot Society, You've got the privilege

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of talking to mister Don Clarius today. Don is an

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individual that had shared a very interesting interaction bigfoot wise

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in my Facebook group, which is Bigfoot Sightings and Research

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I believe is the name of it. And so I

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reached out to Don and asked if if he wanted

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to come on the show to share what he's experienced,

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and thankfully he said yes. So Don, welcome to the

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show today. How's it going, man, Glad to be here, Jeremiah. Absolutely.

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You know, we've got some really interesting ground to cover,

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so I would say, you know, feel free to take us.

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I guess we're going all the way back to the

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late nineteen fifties and feel free to share how this

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all started for you.

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Well, I had just seen the great beat movie of

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Snowman of the MLAs or whatever it was called a

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Vomitable Snowman at it and I thought it was all imaginary.

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And in nineteen fifty eight, I was listening to the

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radio in New York City where I lived, late night,

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I think at nine years old, and I heard Jerry

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Crewe being interviewed on the radio. Now, Jerry crew had

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been working on a logging road Bluff Creek in California,

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which is a extreme northwest portion of California, and they

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were building a logging road that paralleled Bluff Creek, and

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all of a sudden in the morning, all of this

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incredibly heavy equipment was tossed around as though it had toys,

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and scattered around the camp were these enormous barefoot human footprints,

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but much much larger than humans. And that's that's where

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the nickname Bigfoot came came out. And of course the

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real name is sasquach. But I was just utterly intrigued.

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And twelve years later I was going to school in California,

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and I thought, well, for spring breaking, why don't I

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go to the spot where two and a half years earlier,

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the Patterson Gilllan film had been taken. And on the

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Patterson Gillelan film, there's a moment where Patty, that's what

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we call the SaaS question, turns over her shoulder and looks,

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and at that moment you can see the spot where

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my friend and I camp. He was at the edge of.

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Oh, don are you still there?

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Yes?

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Okay, great? I thought we had lost you there for

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a second. Last thing I heard was we had the

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area where you and your friend had camped at.

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Right. Well, we did our homework, and we did a

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lot of research. You know, we found that sasquatch are

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our subspecies of humans. You know, the nest evens Neanderthal,

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Homo sapiens and sasquatch just happened to be covered with hair,

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and so they had the intelligence of a human, but

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also the the senses of an animal, and their sense

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of smell is tremendous and like a hundredfold, but ours

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is and we did our research and we found that

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any group that had guns did not encounter sasquatch, accept Patterson,

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Roger Patterson and mcgimlin, because they had horses and the

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smell of the horses overpowered the smell of the gun.

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And that's the only reason in our research that that's

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why they encountered sasquest. Now, we were driven up to

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Blunt Creek. The lodging road is it is parallel to

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Blunt Creek about a mile west and at one point

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we saw the sign Bigfoot Creek. So that's where our

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driver dropped us off. Now, it took us four days

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to hike that one mile, which is incredible because it's

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so thick. In fact, world explorers called that part of

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a forest virtually impenetrable. And you know, our friends knew

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that we believed in sasques. And I'm from New York

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City and they've warned me, you know, it's going to

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be spring, there's going to be a lot of animal

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sounds that don't go jumping to conclusions. The first time

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you hear a raccoon, Well, we heard absolutely nothing for

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four days, hot and silence, and that's booked us, and

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yet it didn't occur to us that that's one of

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the morning signs that sasquesch are in the area. And

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so on the fourth day, late in the fourth day,

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we heard the rapids and Bluff Creek up ahead. Now

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we were placing our own trail for those almost four

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miles and about maybe one thousand yards west of Bluff Creak.

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Now we're on a game trail, and as soon I

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heard a sound behind me on the game show. Now,

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after four days of told in silence, that startling. So

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I turned to look, thinking maybe I'd see a boy

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scout or something. I wasn't thinking this early that all

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I could see was the trunk of a tree about

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the bigness of a human arm, vibrating back and forth

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as though a huge bird had just taken off, except

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there was no huge bird, and I just didn't think

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anything of it. So then we got to Block Creek.

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There was a sandbar, and that was my first time backpacking.

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But my partner, he was an experienced woodsman, and we

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had no guns, but he was an expert archer, so

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we had his high tech bow and arrow. But we

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didn't see any sasquatch tracks. At the sandbar, so we

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can't in a place maybe two hundred yards maybe three

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indyards down wind from it, so that the animals can

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tell us we were there by smell. But for three

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days we had heard absolutely nothing. And there was a

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swimming hole maybe two hundred yards east of our campsite,

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and I was waiting in the pool and Ken, who's

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a really solid nope, fear fearless, that's the word, fearless outdoorsment.

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He comes to me and there's a look on his

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face that I've never seen before. And he said to me,

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don I don't like work. We're camp too susceptible to

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flash fluds. Well, that time of year, the chance of

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slash one is absolute zero and can and can't do that.

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But I could see that something at camp had spooked him.

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And Ken is the kind of person who would not

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want to talk about it. So I asked, Ken, you know,

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it's what is it now? For four fifteen? How long

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do you think it's going to take us to break

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camp and move out? And he said, well, I actually

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did some figures figuring it is that he realized what

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my point was, that we don't have time to find

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a new camp site. Before it turns dark. So he said,

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the first thing in the morning, we're getting out of here,

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so it really gets dark in a hurry in that

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area Bluff Creek, Contandon, And so we've just finished dinner.

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We're sitting on the log facing the forest and the campfire,

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and we hear a heavy animal approaching down the game trail.

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Now this is again startling because we've had six days

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until it was silence, and to hear an animal it

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was worth walking purposely and without hesitation. So this is

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an animal that apparently can see in the dark. And

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I'm a musician, and I can estimate by the sound

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of the branches being crushed under its feet, maybe four

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or five inch branches, And that's a heavy animal. And

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so I showed my flashlight up to see how big

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was the bear. And that's not what I saw. If

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only I had seen the bear eight feet or so

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off the ground were two red eyes reflecting the light.

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You know. That means that this animal can see in

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the dark, and it's eight feet above the ground, which

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means we went to all this trouble to encounter sasquatch,

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and now that we're face to face with him, less

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than ten feet away. We are scared to death. We

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were absolutely hysterical and encircled our camp maybe forty five minutes,

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always out of sight, not that we wanted to see it.

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I mean, this is this is the odd thing. You know.

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We went to all that trouble, is all that research

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so that we could encounter sasquatch, and now that we have,

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we are terrified, utterly terrified. And about forty five minutes later,

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it picked up a rock the size of a human

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face and threw it at our seat. Excellent need. And

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I don't know how I got to sleep that night

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because all my thoughts were Albert Austin's. Albert Austin had lived.

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It was an endorsement of the minor, and he went

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camping in the nineteen twenties and he was actually carried

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off in a sleeping bag by a Sasquatch at night

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and taken to the Sasquatch family, and it took him

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three days before he could get away. But that's all

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I went through my mind. So in the morning, when

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we woke up, we were just relieved to still be

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we're We went to sleep, and I had promised Ken

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that we would promptly move on but I wanted to

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get photographs of the prince, and of course the soil

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was so solid there were no discernibles what prints, except

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they were in the juge couches maybe foot the half long.

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And it was rather than go back to the way

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we had come, which of this four days, we decided

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to walk down the stream and our maps showed that

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there was a spurf from the logging road that intersected

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Blood Cream maybe two miles from the south. That's where

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we headed. But all along we could tell that the

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fast Question was following us, not nearly as close as

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it had encountered us because that was Tennessee, but that

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we were aware that it is following us to ensure

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that we leave the still made with an absolutely terrifying experience.

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But you know, with a privilege now that's poking back

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at it. It was really a rare.

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Privilege, Don, that's Don, that's an incredible account. Thank you

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for sharing that. I definitely have a few questions for

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you about this, this whole ordeal.

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Okay, so.

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Everything the interaction, did you say that happened at the

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film site itself or that was a different area, Well,

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that was the film side itself, okay, and that was

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nineteen seventy.

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Oh yeah, spring April.

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Okay, April nineteen seventy. Wow. Interesting, So from and this

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is just approximately, so you hiked up Bigfoot Creek to

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Bluff Creek. How many miles would you say then you

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had to walk to get up to the film site

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from when you found Bluff Creek?

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Well, it was about a mile. We didn't actually walk

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at Bluff Creek. We did not walk at a long

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Bigfoot Creek. We walked. We placed our own trail to

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stop Bigo Creek and it was only a mile and

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it took us four days.

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Okay, so you you did not get dropped off at

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Bigfoot Creek. It was a different area.

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Oh yeah, we were dropped out the big Foot Creek

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were an intersections in the logging road.

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Okay, gotcha? Gotcha? And you said so that was about

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a mile to get to the film site from where

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that was?

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Right?

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Okay, very very interesting. How did you end up finding

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where that that actual film site was or was it

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a thing where you just recognized it once you you know,

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hyped up there.

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We recognize the terrain now, the splash, plus you know,

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two and a half years of a lot of it changed,

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but there were certain things at the bars where and

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you know the rock formations. Uh. And it was actually,

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you know, rather easy than fine. The fact that it

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was big of a creek, uh, indicated that you get

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visited the spot.

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It kind of makes you wonder for sure, were there

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any things about the film site that that jumped out

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that you saw You were like, Okay, I see that,

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and I see that this has to be the place.

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Well, the larger boulders were still there. The smaller stones

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of course, when the floods come every spring, they get

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washed away. And the subsequent to that trip, we have

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seen I have seen several stone crews travel to the

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spot and it was the same spot.

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H Do you know what film cruise those would have been.

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Finding big Foot? And uh, I cannot think of the names.

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I got it. Yeah, So you're saying, in in later

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years you saw other people traveling to that area, and

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you're like, yeah, it's the same area, gotcha. Okay, big

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for Society will be right back after these messages.

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I left off the I left off the end of

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my story. You know, we got down to the h

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you know. This is you know, two days after our encounter.

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So we're now at the junction of the spur from

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the logging road where empties into the Bluff Creek. And

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apparently they built the spur because they had bulldoze so

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many tree steps that they were needed the spur to

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dump them into Bluff Creek. And so there's this two

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hundreds of foot or so sheer but not quite a cliff,

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but maybe a forty five degree angle, and it's loose

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soil and gravel and all of that. And it took us,

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you know, we climbed. We each had a fifty pounds backpack,

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which didn't make it easy, but you know, for every

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tree steps, every three steps we climb wild slide back

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to By the time we got to the top, we

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were so out of breath. We collapsed on the log

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and just to catch our breath, and soon heard an

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enormous crash. I can elephant it follow them out of

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the tree. And then we heard this strange gurgling whistle

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like a bird, only two or three octaves in the

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pitch below. And I had never heard anything like that before,

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and I didn't share it again until I heard a

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recording of the sound of Bigfoot made on a trail

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camp and it was the same and it just brought chills.

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You know. This was years later, but it was an

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experience I'll never forget.

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That is extremely interesting. Did you guys bring any you know,

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anything with you to try to document what you might

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find or was it is it purely for the adventure

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to try to get to the spot?

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Well, I had a camera. Now, my theory is that

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the past question sense of smell is like a hundredfold

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what a humans is that electronic cameras and guns give

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off smells that humans cannot detect, but a task question can.

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So being limited and the equipment we took the only

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thing I had with a thirty five mimeters no camera,

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and I had that wrapped up in the buried into

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my backpack, so that got down the amount of smell.

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Were you I'm guessing there was no no photos that

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were able to be taken anything like that, like what

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would have been taken just a few years beforehand.

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Correct. The only photo we took with up the camp

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site and some of the hiking, but we had no

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movie camera or video camera.

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Okay, so that's actually there were no videos.

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There were no consumer video cameras.

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In nineteen seventy, correct from what I know. So, so

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you you took a photo though of the campsite that

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was at the film site you're saying, correct, do you

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still have that photo?

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I don't think so. I had something stolen in that

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unfortunately it was one of them. M.

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Interesting, what did you take or bring back anything from

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that trip as a souvenir or anything. No, kay, it's

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just it would be It's very interesting to be one

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of the first documented trips to that area besides Roger

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and Bob.

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Right.

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M that was that? So how did that affect the

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rest of your life? And having that you know that

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that nighttime sighting and that that really must have affected

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you in some ways.

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Yes, it made me obsessed with as though I wasn't

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already obsessed, it actually increased my obsession to the point

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where I'm now a documentary filmmaker and I cannot afford

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to pay the copyright fees, so my documentaries cannot be

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sold and what I do is edited together interviews and

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reenactments of other encounters.

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Okay, interesting, So is this like, is this like a

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YouTube thing or or what's the type of medium here.

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I can't put them on YouTube because of the cocky

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Right, yeah, sure sure, Wow. So right now, you just

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have a bunch. It sounds like you have probably multiple

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documentaries that you're you're really not even able to put

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out there.

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Right, So I can show them the individuals, but not

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not for broadcasts or sale.

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Okay, So are these interviews that you've filmed yourself of

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people that have had encounters or they're of other from

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my people's work.

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I get them from other sources.

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Okay, gotcha, m if you could go back to the other,

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go ahead.

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The other The other sources have more clouds than I do.

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You know, I'm just a person. I'm in my mid

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seventies and people don't do not take me seriously. But

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there are sasquatch researchers out there who have cloud credibility

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and rabatas for lack of a better word, and they

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get the interviews.

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Do you have Do you have contact with any of

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the other individuals that were with you during that trip?

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No, I've blused, I've blust touch with them. Okay, fifty

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five years ago.

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Wow. And just just to make sure, so when you

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were hiking, were you hiking alongside of Bluff Creek or

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hiking in the creek itself.

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Okay, if you can picture two parallel lines up and down.

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The one on the right is Bluff Creek water, the

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one on the left is the logging road, and we

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were going left to right as in an h so

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we were blazing our own trail. And then after our encounter,

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we went down a long bluff creek in the water,

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but next to the water.

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Okay, got you were there any times where it was?

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Or how about this? What was the difficulty level of

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hiking alongside Bluff Creek when you guys went on the return.

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Extreme because there were rocks and driftwood and we were

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carrying fifty pound backpacks. Now it was they were trip

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hazards all over the place. And when we hit when

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we went from the logging road to the camps to

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the to the site, we would encounter fallen trees. So

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we either had to climb over them, and they were

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enormous trees, either climb over them or crawl under them.

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Either way, the backpacks came off. That really slowed us down.

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But when we were after the encounter, when we were

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walking hiking down Luck Creek, there were no fallen trees

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that we needed to climb over or crawl under, So

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we would just need to walk very slowly and carefully

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to avoid tripping.

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So after you you had this encounter by the film site,

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what was the first thing you did when you got

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back to civilization.

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Well, we were both embarrassed that we had gotten hysterical,

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and so we didn't talk about that, but we we

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we talked openly about the fact that we encountered sas

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quest and a lot of folks gave us the impression

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that they believed us. And for all I know of,

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perhaps they were all bluffing or humoring us, or perhaps

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they actually believed us. But there is so much disbelief

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when it comes to sas question, and the evidence is

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utterly overwhelming that Sasquatch do exist, and as the experts

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estimate that the breeding population is maybe three thousands.

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So these people that you were talking to, were these

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just people in like maybe the town of Willow Creek,

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or relatives or what kind of individuals were you? Were

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you sharing your story?

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Well, fellow students at our college, Simpson University, in what.

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In oh oh Boy, Okay, in what state?

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Well, Simpson University is now in read in California, but

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when we went there, it was in San Francisco.

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Okay, gotcha, gotcha. It's very interesting. So I'm trying to

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put myself in your your creuse mindset, because you know,

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this only happened a few years after the Patterson Gimlan

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film footage. So what was it like then? As you

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continue to grow older, you know, on the one hand,

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you have Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin and they have

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this footage. But then you're like, I've also been there,

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and I've experienced something similar, but yet it's it's a

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little different because I I don't have the footage. What

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was that like?

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Well, I actually I've a humililated video from other sources

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of that spot. So in my in my documentary right

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share my tale, I'm actually using footage of the area.

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And as far as my encounter goes, one of the

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Monster Quests episodes that talk about Sasquatch recreates and encounter

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a Native American woman had with their husband, and I'd

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say that my encounter was very much like this.

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Interesting. So there wasn't any was there ever any any

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regret or you know, I wish if we could have

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gone back, you know, to that time in that site,

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we would have done this differently or.

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Actually, I just regret that I panicked, that I was hysterical,

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because I'm a very level headed person that does not scariously.

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But I was utterly terrified and I had the sense

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of the presence of evil, and I knew that was

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irrational because I think that sas question, You're just an

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unknown species of animals, you know, a crypto that science

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has not yet metitude. But there are so many experts

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in their field, in that field that say the evidence

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is overwhelming. I'm thinking of people like a Rover France,

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but they're not all of course, Shood what's his name

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from Idaho State.

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Jeff Maltram, Would you ever recommend a group try to

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do what you guys did back in nineties nineteen seventy

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where you tried to hike along the creek or in

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the creek to go up to the film site.

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Well, yet to know, you've got to be careful. You know,

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when I see people trying to find sasquatch using electronics

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things that actually sass quest can tell uh we're being hunted,

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and they will not let themselves be discovered fast Quatch

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are not quite herbit, but they want to be left

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clone and they are incredibly intelligent creatures, and they live

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in family units and they honor the family. For example,

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when when Albert husband was abducted by a fast quesch,

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the sas Quatch took him back to meet the wife

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and kids.

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Have you ever heard of any other instances where that

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may have also happened, where you know, an individual was

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introduced to the to the family.

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Maybe well, I hear on the internet people claiming that

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they have conversations with fess, which I'm thinking thats wtch

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don't have a larynx, and so they are intelligent enough

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though to have their own speech.

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Big for society will be right back after these messages.

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But as far as for creating English, sure any other

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human language, that that is just not possible. So in

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other words, I cannot think of the man's name recorded

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sat question speech. But there's a recording and it sounds

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like a gibberish, but it does instant and you can

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tell that yes, this is this is a way of

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communicating yes.

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So that's really interesting. How how is it then just

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curious that that we know something like they don't have

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a larynx if we have never found or you know,

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captured a natural like type specimen.

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Excellent question. I think that it's got to be the

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fact that the language that they use it indicates the

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lack of a larynx. Side and I'm not an expert,

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but I'm sure that experts that.

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Listen to it interesting. And I want to to go

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back a little bit too, you know, talking about going

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up the side of the creek to the film site.

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Is there any specific advice that you can give to

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people if they were wanting to try to go up

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this route.

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Yes, take horses that will for some reason. Fast question.

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When they smell horses, they're not afraid of horses. They

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are they want to be left alone by visible You know,

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the sas Quatch are different personality. At times, you know,

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humans are encroaching on their environment and okay the time,

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I believe when Sasquatch are just so tired of being

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squeezed out and encroached upon that they might lash out.

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And I'm convinced that our government knows more about them

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than than they're letting.

459
00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:28.119
On it is. It is a very interesting thought to have.

460
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:31.319
But what what would you think? What if the group

461
00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:33.920
that was going up there didn't have horses and they

462
00:33:33.920 --> 00:33:37.839
were just going on foot. Would they have how much

463
00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:41.359
percentage of success might they have if they did not

464
00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:42.440
have horses at all?

465
00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:51.000
Virtually none? Now what people when people are going out

466
00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:55.240
looking for sasquatch with cameras and things and guns, perhaps

467
00:33:56.279 --> 00:34:01.440
sasquatch know that they're being attracted and they avoid. But

468
00:34:01.799 --> 00:34:08.119
sasquatch are shown to have interest in human children, especially babies.

469
00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:12.800
When sasquatch looked at a car that's had the flat

470
00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:16.639
tire and the driver is changing the tire, sasquatch are

471
00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:21.880
intrigued by that. That there was there's a place called

472
00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:24.599
Oregon Caves that's just over the north of the state

473
00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:33.360
line with Pla, Oregon, And there were people hiking and

474
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:40.000
the man went to I'm sorry, durinate, and he saw

475
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:44.400
he walked far off the trail, and when he was

476
00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:49.000
doing his business, he saw a sasquatch watching his wife

477
00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:54.440
and child. And he had no sense. He didn't pad

478
00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:58.599
it like I did, but he had no sense of fear.

479
00:34:58.960 --> 00:35:01.679
But he did have a sense that these animals are

480
00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:10.360
jintle and curious and deserve their own habitat.

481
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:19.440
Are you talking about the sighting of that doctor Matthew

482
00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:23.880
Johnson had in two thousand or is this a different account?

483
00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:31.280
Just try and okay, okay, no problem, no problem. Yeah,

484
00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:38.440
that's doctor in Alaska, that's doctor Matthew Johnson. Absolutely, yep, okay.

485
00:35:38.519 --> 00:35:42.119
I will try to have that b f R report

486
00:35:42.440 --> 00:35:45.480
in the show notes so people can can read that

487
00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:47.760
for themselves as well, because I was like, yeah, I

488
00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:56.079
know exactly what he is referring to. So don you

489
00:35:56.119 --> 00:35:59.920
know you've had so many years since that time, did

490
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:03.719
you ever go out again to try to have another

491
00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:07.800
sighting or to you know, maybe return to this area.

492
00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:15.760
No, I'm not in physical shapeout tool and I don't

493
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:17.559
have the financial resources to do that.

494
00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:20.519
Sure, yeah, I.

495
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:24.559
Think I'm an I'm an armchair explorer.

496
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:27.719
Yeah, I gotcha. I got youa. But so I guess

497
00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:30.679
maybe another way to say is you know, after the

498
00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:33.440
next year, you didn't have another spring break and you're like,

499
00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:36.159
you know, guys, let's go up to let's go up

500
00:36:36.199 --> 00:36:39.079
to Washington State this time, or there were there were

501
00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:41.280
no other Bigfoot adventures that were had.

502
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:46.840
No, I I did it electronically, but I've just I

503
00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:50.000
watched everything on Sasquesh. I can get ahold of.

504
00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:57.400
Did you ever have any conversations about this experience with

505
00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:01.840
the friends you had there at a later time in life.

506
00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:04.320
You guys met after ten years and you were like,

507
00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:07.280
you remember that time and at the film site.

508
00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:13.119
Yeah, his name was Ken, and we reminisced, and you know,

509
00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:17.559
by then our memories are our fear was gone and

510
00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:23.960
looking back at it, our embarrassment was gone, and it

511
00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:25.760
was just nice to reminisce.

512
00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:35.639
Do you have any advice for people that are out

513
00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:40.760
there in the wilderness they're trying to have their own

514
00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:44.199
interaction with sasquatch? Do you have any advice for them?

515
00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:50.440
Yes, they are a subspecies of humans. They are not

516
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:55.119
They don't deserve to be killed and put up as

517
00:37:55.159 --> 00:37:58.760
a trophy on a wall. And we need to respect

518
00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:05.000
them because they their own society and their own culture,

519
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:18.480
and they're extremely intelligent. We need to respect them and

520
00:38:18.920 --> 00:38:19.800
lead them alone.

521
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:27.920
Do you think it's worth going to the same area today?

522
00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:33.000
Do you think there's still potential bigfoot activity in the

523
00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:36.880
area of Bluff Creek or Willow Creek.

524
00:38:39.159 --> 00:38:43.480
Probably, but there are other areas as well. You know,

525
00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:48.280
the most sightings are from as far as I know,

526
00:38:48.599 --> 00:38:54.360
Washington State, and British Columbia, Oregon, and less so in

527
00:38:54.679 --> 00:39:02.639
northern California. The next place is actually southeast Ohio, northeast Oklahoma,

528
00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:10.159
and but as Sasquatch have been seen in every state

529
00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:14.920
except Hawaii, every Canadian province and territory. They are all

530
00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:18.920
over the place, and in some places they're called brass

531
00:39:18.920 --> 00:39:27.519
man or whatever. I'm sorry I'm parking.

532
00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:30.679
Here, Don. Is this the first time you've shared this

533
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:31.760
account publicly?

534
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:38.440
I think a couple of years ago I shared a

535
00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:42.039
fraction of what I've shared with you on another podcast,

536
00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:44.280
I don't remember which one.

537
00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:51.079
Gontcha. Well, I appreciate you coming on the show to

538
00:39:51.719 --> 00:39:59.280
share the whole story, you know, based on what you experienced.

539
00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:04.679
You know, some people, some people classify in their minds

540
00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:08.679
as it's some kind of undiscovered grade ape or it's

541
00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:13.000
some kind of you know, human humanoid that we didn't

542
00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:15.679
know is out there. Do you are you able to

543
00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:19.000
classify it in either of those two categories or you

544
00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:22.199
find it's kind of a league of its own type deal.

545
00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:27.639
Well, they have analyzed the DNA, they have sequenced the DNA,

546
00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:30.480
and a DNA expert has said that this is a

547
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:32.000
subspecies of.

548
00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:39.039
Human referring to the doctor Melbketchum study.

549
00:40:41.480 --> 00:40:42.280
I think that's her name.

550
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:47.159
Okay, interesting, yeah, yeah, And I think there might be

551
00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:50.480
some other information that'll be coming out in future years

552
00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:52.320
as well. It'll be interesting to see how it all

553
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:57.280
plays out, you know. But don it has been a

554
00:40:57.440 --> 00:41:03.400
really interesting conversation with you. It's weird how it's almost

555
00:41:03.480 --> 00:41:08.559
like every generation has it. You know, you had your

556
00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:11.599
generation in the seventies and there was I don't know

557
00:41:11.639 --> 00:41:13.440
if you know this, but there was a group of

558
00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:16.519
guys that tried to do this almost same exact thing,

559
00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:22.679
hiking up Bluff Creek actually in the water, just a

560
00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:26.039
few years ago. They did not make it, though, because

561
00:41:26.320 --> 00:41:32.239
hiking in the creek itself is extremely treacherous. But cold

562
00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:36.079
and cold, yeah, definitely. But it was quite the adventure

563
00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:38.119
that they had and no one got hurt, which I

564
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:42.159
think is number one. And no one got hurt on

565
00:41:42.199 --> 00:41:43.840
your trip either, correct.

566
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:49.840
Correct, We were just terrified, right right.

567
00:41:49.880 --> 00:41:53.840
You've got another kind of thing to deal with. I

568
00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:58.119
would say, I don't know if I would recommend doing

569
00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:03.039
this listeners, it is it is very treacherous. Anything you

570
00:42:03.079 --> 00:42:05.920
hear on the show is pretty dangerous, So keep keep

571
00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:09.360
that in mind. But John, did you have any any

572
00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:14.360
any closing thoughts or any last thoughts about bigfoot before

573
00:42:14.519 --> 00:42:16.920
we we end our time together today.

574
00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:25.000
Yes, groups that go out there with traps and nets

575
00:42:25.079 --> 00:42:31.719
and video equipment, the more the bigger the group, the

576
00:42:31.840 --> 00:42:34.920
less likely they are to run into it. When you

577
00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:38.239
put up trail cameras thinking that you're going to spot

578
00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:47.079
a bigfoot, younger bigfoot might not. The older bigfoot will

579
00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:53.719
recognize the smell of electronics, especially video cameras and which

580
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:56.760
we can't telp because you know, we we've lost most

581
00:42:56.800 --> 00:43:01.760
of our senses. But the only time the best groups

582
00:43:03.079 --> 00:43:07.119
two or three, especially having kids with you, that will

583
00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:11.400
increase your chances. And just pay attention to where the

584
00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:19.800
sightings are and and be nice and treat them with respect.

585
00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:26.000
I'd say that's great advice. Don Thank you so much

586
00:43:26.039 --> 00:43:29.000
for coming on the show today. It was a privileged

587
00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:32.719
to hear your account of what happened back in the

588
00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:37.400
nineteen seventies out there by the Patterson Gimmelin film site.

589
00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:37.800
Thank you.

590
00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:41.880
Oh, you're welcome. It's been a pleasure.

591
00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:49.400
Hey, Jeremiah, this is Rory. I left out a couple

592
00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:53.440
of things. A couple of things I forgot in our

593
00:43:56.039 --> 00:44:00.880
interview that we did the first thing, and I think,

594
00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:05.039
you know, some of your listeners might be interested in

595
00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:07.960
these couple of things, so I thought i'd send you

596
00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:13.320
these add on recordings. The first thing was, I think

597
00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:17.440
there was a family of sasquatch that passed my campsite

598
00:44:18.079 --> 00:44:21.159
when I was camped down at Bluff Creek, and I

599
00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:27.039
think it was ninety five. I was about a few

600
00:44:27.079 --> 00:44:32.039
hundred yards north of Bigfoot Creek on the sandbar, just

601
00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:37.559
on the west edge of Bluff Creek, and I had

602
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:40.480
a campfire going, and I don't know it was nine

603
00:44:40.599 --> 00:44:44.239
ten eleven o'clock at night. It's really dark, and I'm

604
00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:47.639
keeping an eye out three hundred and sixty degrees for eyeshine,

605
00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:54.880
always looking for eyeshine at night, mountain lion bear and sasquatch.

606
00:44:55.679 --> 00:45:03.960
So I look at one point towards the hillside, which

607
00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:09.679
was to the west, and I see what appears to

608
00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:15.320
be three sets of eye shine and they're in line,

609
00:45:16.280 --> 00:45:19.519
and they appeared to be, you know, going from my

610
00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:23.119
left to right, and the first set of eyes was

611
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:27.320
lower than the second set of eyes.

612
00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:31.320
Big So the society will be right back after these messages.

613
00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:51.760
And the third set of eye shine was appeared to

614
00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:56.920
be smaller and you know, slightly above and behind the

615
00:45:56.960 --> 00:46:02.199
second set of eye shine. So what it looked like

616
00:46:04.320 --> 00:46:08.199
was a female in front of a male, the female

617
00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:12.760
being shorter and then the male, and then the male

618
00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:18.800
appeared to have a juvenile on its shoulders. Now you know,

619
00:46:18.920 --> 00:46:21.280
do I know, there's no way I could know what

620
00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:26.679
it was, but it sure did appear that that's exactly

621
00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:31.960
what it was. And they proceeded from my left to

622
00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:38.199
my right and and went out of sight. And I

623
00:46:38.199 --> 00:46:42.320
don't know this lasted a few minutes. I think I

624
00:46:42.360 --> 00:46:45.320
watched them as they went by, so they were walking

625
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:48.559
by and keeping an eye on me. Is they were

626
00:46:48.599 --> 00:46:53.280
walking by, so their eyes were focused in my direction

627
00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:56.719
most of the time, and I could, you know, see

628
00:46:56.760 --> 00:47:03.360
them as they moved. So anyway, that's and this area,

629
00:47:03.599 --> 00:47:06.559
you know, where I was camped out was, you know,

630
00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:10.639
just downhill, about a quarter of a mile from where

631
00:47:10.679 --> 00:47:17.280
I had my ninety three campsite encounter. And this is

632
00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:20.119
also the area where I found the nest. And you know,

633
00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:24.719
all of the broken tree tops and twisted trees and

634
00:47:24.840 --> 00:47:28.280
bent over trees, you know that.

635
00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:30.440
Appear appeared to.

636
00:47:31.920 --> 00:47:35.760
Have been going on for a long time, decades, some

637
00:47:36.119 --> 00:47:42.079
very fresh and some very old. So anyway, I think

638
00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:44.519
it's a pretty good area down there, at least it was,

639
00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:49.559
you know back then. Anyway, I'm going to stop this

640
00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:53.159
recording and then send you another one. This is Rory again.

641
00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:55.840
This is the other thing that I forgot to mention

642
00:47:56.119 --> 00:48:02.400
in our interview. This is in regards to a family

643
00:48:02.920 --> 00:48:06.679
that wanted to meet up with me, and I think

644
00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:09.599
it was in ninety five, and I think they went

645
00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:12.159
through Al Hodgson, and Al got a hold of me

646
00:48:12.239 --> 00:48:15.280
and said, hey, they want to They want to meet

647
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:17.119
up with you and find out, you know, what you've

648
00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:21.719
been finding and where you're finding in where you're finding it.

649
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:26.280
And I said okay, and we made arrangements and met

650
00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:30.480
at a restaurant and they showed up in a camper,

651
00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:38.800
and they struck me as odd right off the bat,

652
00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:46.239
and you know, it's hard to say, but it kind

653
00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:50.400
of looked like three actors that were put together, and

654
00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:54.320
the guy the supposed husband, and you know, maybe they

655
00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:57.400
were totally legiti family, but they just struck me as

656
00:48:57.400 --> 00:49:06.760
a little bit odd. And the husband definitely looked former military.

657
00:49:06.840 --> 00:49:11.559
And so anyway, I told him about what I was

658
00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:14.239
finding where I was finding it. They wanted to go.

659
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:16.440
They wanted to see it.

660
00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:19.960
So we went.

661
00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:22.440
And I'm not sure if it was at this point

662
00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:30.400
or the next day, but the guy rented a black

663
00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:33.800
Volvo because I told him we wouldn't be able to

664
00:49:33.800 --> 00:49:38.599
get the camper down to the side of Bluff Creek

665
00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:42.320
where I was finding everything. So I thought that was

666
00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:48.920
completely strange renting a new black, shiny Volvo to go

667
00:49:49.000 --> 00:49:54.800
down the switchbacks, which basically the switchback was somewhere between

668
00:49:54.840 --> 00:49:57.360
a jeep trail and a logging road.

669
00:49:58.199 --> 00:50:00.719
And so.

670
00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:10.719
Anyway, we camped out the first night near the top

671
00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:15.679
of the switchback I think it was, and we went.

672
00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:20.079
I took the guy on a night hike, and you know,

673
00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:22.719
I've done a lot of night hikes, you know, up

674
00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:27.119
in Bluff Creek ninety three, ninety four, ninety five, ninety six,

675
00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:31.280
and you know, I don't like to turn on any

676
00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:35.079
kind of light or anything, and I basically just adjust

677
00:50:35.119 --> 00:50:41.360
my night vision and hike, which you know, I wouldn't

678
00:50:41.400 --> 00:50:44.599
really recommend that. I don't know if I would do

679
00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:48.679
it now looking back, because I did walk up on

680
00:50:48.760 --> 00:50:52.880
a bear. It's so close to it. It looked like

681
00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:55.880
a big giant ink black spot, and it looked out

682
00:50:55.920 --> 00:50:59.440
of place, and then it just took off away from

683
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:02.440
me when I got to within about ten.

684
00:51:02.239 --> 00:51:02.719
Feet of it.

685
00:51:02.920 --> 00:51:06.760
So I don't know if I'd recommend doing that, but anyway,

686
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:11.159
we did it. But he brought a flashlight, and I

687
00:51:11.199 --> 00:51:14.559
think this was kind of funny. The flashlight wouldn't stay

688
00:51:14.599 --> 00:51:18.159
on for him, which I thought, oh my gosh, that's

689
00:51:18.280 --> 00:51:22.280
really this is perfect. He actually got down on his

690
00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:25.559
knees and he had to try and get that flashlight gone.

691
00:51:26.000 --> 00:51:29.440
He did not want to be without light, and it

692
00:51:29.559 --> 00:51:32.679
was actually kind of funny. But anyway, so we did

693
00:51:32.719 --> 00:51:36.159
the night hike and then we went back and got

694
00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:41.559
some rest for the next day. It was uneventful. And

695
00:51:41.639 --> 00:51:48.440
so anyway, we take the Vovo down the switchbacks to

696
00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:53.440
the area where I was finding all this stuff I

697
00:51:53.519 --> 00:51:57.719
was finding, and I mean, the guy drove like a

698
00:51:57.840 --> 00:52:01.639
race car driver in this Volvo, this rental Vovo.

699
00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:03.440
I mean, it was.

700
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I couldn't believe it. It was. It was pretty funny.

701
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So anyway, you know, I show him what I had

702
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been founding and he's like, yeah, okay, and so then

703
00:52:18.519 --> 00:52:22.480
we're done down there. And we head back up and

704
00:52:23.960 --> 00:52:29.840
I mean he's driving, like I say, like a a

705
00:52:29.920 --> 00:52:36.039
dirt dirt car racer up the switchback, and at one

706
00:52:36.119 --> 00:52:41.480
point we could hear the some damage to the rear end,

707
00:52:41.840 --> 00:52:45.679
I mean, bouncing up through the ruts and sliding around

708
00:52:45.719 --> 00:52:50.039
the turns. This guy had definitely been professionally trained driver.

709
00:52:54.159 --> 00:52:58.679
So we get we stopped the car, We stopped the

710
00:52:58.719 --> 00:53:03.159
black Vova, and we get out and the rear fender

711
00:53:03.239 --> 00:53:06.239
is hanging off and it's I think it's you know,

712
00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:11.320
mostly plastic, maybe some metal, and he tore off the

713
00:53:11.360 --> 00:53:16.480
rest of it, so, you know, while while it was

714
00:53:16.519 --> 00:53:18.840
hanging off, he just tore it off and then threw

715
00:53:18.920 --> 00:53:22.760
it into the bushes on the side of the switchback.

716
00:53:23.119 --> 00:53:26.800
I wouldn't doubt that that fender is still sitting on

717
00:53:26.840 --> 00:53:30.960
the side of that switchback, So anybody, if they ever

718
00:53:31.039 --> 00:53:34.480
go up there, you might find that. But anyway, I

719
00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:39.480
just found it. It was all very odd, and the

720
00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:46.119
guy totally struck me as an agent, and they wanted

721
00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:49.440
to keep an eye on what was being found where

722
00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:53.119
it was being found, you know, who was finding it.

723
00:53:53.679 --> 00:54:00.440
And he completed his mission. He did that, and now

724
00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:05.880
then they left, so I just kind of filed that

725
00:54:06.119 --> 00:54:11.840
under you know, possibly the three letter agencies keeping tabs

726
00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:16.639
on the research, especially in the Bluff Greek area, since

727
00:54:16.679 --> 00:54:22.239
that's always been such a hotspot. Anyway, just thought i'd share.

728
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Hopefully some of your listeners will find that a little

729
00:54:25.639 --> 00:54:28.920
interesting and maybe keep it in mind if they run

730
00:54:28.960 --> 00:54:31.719
into similar situations in their research.

731
00:54:33.559 --> 00:54:35.800
Okay, talk to you later, but just wanted to take

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