"Bigfoot is a Giant and it lives in Michigan"

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far, so let's get on with
the show, all right, Big for

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Society the privilege of talking to mister
James Lady tonight. He is from the

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great state of Michigan and he is
a student of things Bigfoot related. He

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likes getting out in the woods and
just figuring things out. How's it going

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tonight, James, It's going well. Thank you, Jeremiads. It's pleasure

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to meet you, and I appreciate
this opportunity to speak to you and you

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you're growing audience. I watched your
channel grow over the past months, and

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that's quite impressive. So I consider
this my privilege. So thank you for

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having me on. Absolutely it's it's
been a it's been a fun journey and

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a weird one, but man,
the stories and things I'm able to get

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out are very cool and that's why
I put the hard work in. But

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let's let's start out with this,
James, So what part of Michigan are

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you from or that you're comfortable sharing
with maybe for a little context for the

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listening. I live in a town
called gross Point. We're at the mouth

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of the Detroit River, the Great
Fishery, which is great for me because

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I love to fish in anytime through
the ice or with a Timy size twenty

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two fly. I don't know,
but I just love is in a full

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spectrum of fishing. So I live
in Michigan, which is surrounded by water

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and all sorts of life. I
live in gross Point, which is just

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east of Detroit. A lot of
brick and mortar around us, and it

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kind of drives me crazy sometimes,
so I have to go and go to

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the woods sometimes and exercise my boyhood
dreams of adventure, and that's exactly what

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I'm doing these days, and I
never really saw it coming. This whole

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big Foot journey has been very organic. I was naturally curious as a boy

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and thought, if they did exist, I want to see one. And

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I was going up north anyway to
fish in a valley on the same parallel

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where my father took us up to
camp and you know, up to a

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cabin vacation every other every year for
a couple of weeks. So anyway,

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I fell in love with the area. Eventually moved up here from southern Ohio

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and learned that, you know,
just by planning a trip to the Boundary

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Waters camp and fishing canoeing trip,
I eventually clicked on a little bigfoot video

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and I went down the rabbit hole
and just by my own wits and reckoning,

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by simply what I learned on YouTube, this phenomenon is really quite real,

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and it's amazing what the madness you
have to sift through, not only

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through your own head, but all
the junk out there that that's out there.

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There is a lot of jump,
But I think that there's an ever

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growing body of people out there,
curious, just like myself, who are

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putting their evidence out there. And
I hope I wish to somehow contribute to

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the recognition of this reality that we
find in the woods. And I never

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thought it possible. But when I
did find out the phenomenon is real,

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I just wanted to see one and
I took it to the nth degree,

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like I have with some other obsessions
in my life. And here I am.

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I'm with the Michigan Aboriginal Project and
and I'm just putting my my I'm

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sharing my journey and sharing what evidence
that I have collected on my own in

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the woods of northern and southern southern
Michigan all throughout this day. When you

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say northern Michigan, are you talking
about the Upper Peninsula or the actual northern

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part of them both. I spend
most of my time in the northern Lower

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but in my daughter was born in
northern Michigan for a few years, and

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I got to know the up a
little better. I've been ice fishing up

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there for some years and I've had
some experience up there, and some of

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the recordings I've sent you, I
think two of those that I have sent

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you are from the up and but
this is a hobby, you know,

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it doesn't even have to be Michigan
you can. You don't have to limit

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yourself to a particular state, or
you don't have to isolate yourself to the

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Northwest to have any to expose yourself
to the reality of this phenomenon. That

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you can be anywhere. I believe
in any watershed, on any continents,

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you have populations of these beings.
I agree with you. From the people

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that I've talked to over the years, there is interactions all over the place

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in places that you would not think
they're totally happening. Was there a situation

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that happened that really transitioned the way
you looked at the big Foot creature and

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that made you say, like,
Okay, from here on out, I'm

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getting into the woods. I'm figuring
this out, and made you take it

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very seriously. I don't know if
there's any specific time that that happened,

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but I when I found out that
they were a real phenomenon, like I

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said, I just wanted to see
one. And then I got more and

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more curious because you find such interesting
things in the woods and manipulation at woodcraft

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a tpees wigwams lane tis. They
also manipulate branches. I've been observing a

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branch over the past few years,
it had been tied into a knot.

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You know, wind and such can
tangle your fishing line into knots and some

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unexplainable ways wind knots they're called,
and fly fishing. But no, no,

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no wind event or you know,
climate insult to a tree can produce

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that particular kind of result. So, and that's just one little anomalous thing

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that I've observed in the woods.
Most blatant things are the tpees, wigwams

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and suction. And I've my operating
thought is that you know this said or

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legend says that they have they make
these creations. The only how do you

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prove that they're not going to come
around if you're going to sit around a

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camp around these things, you know. So I started dropping recorders and yeah,

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the structures like this, And this
structure is in a suburb of ann

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Arbor, I think, actually it's
it's just near the outside border of ann

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Arbor. Huron River runs through there, and along the shoreline of the Huron

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River you'll find structures similar to these. So when I find these, I

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study him. I look for,
you know, unique things about it,

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and and I found this on August
tenth, twenty twenty two and I got

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some amazing recordings two female subjects.
That sounds way better right when you start

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talking about this. The only other
time I've had weird audio like this happened

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before is when some guy was talking
about I think it was giant related stuff

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and just like totally wigged out on
us. And I was like, Oh,

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that's this creeps me out a little
bit, because this whole Giant's phenomenon.

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You know, I've studied, I'm
studying a lot of the teachings of

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doctor Michael Heiser, and it looks
at oh yeah, sure, saw maybe

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two and the supernatural, you know
worldview, absolutely of the Second Temple,

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Jewish you know crowd that understood the
Old Testament, that kind of thing.

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So not only do I believe there
are people, I believe there may be

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some biblical parallels to this, so
that in this this extra this extra dimensional

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world that people talk about. I
have no evidence of that, but I'm

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not going to discount that at all
because I just don't know. But yeah,

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that's weird. Some weird things happen
at some very usual quits in general

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times. Yeah, I know,
I guess you say, fellow podcasters that

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I know, the guys from Blurry
Creatures, they'll have weird stuff happen when

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they're talking about they have some pretty
heavy episodes to do with giants and stuff,

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and they'll have some interesting tech issues
happen too, So you never know

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what's going to down there. But
so, yeah, we were just talking

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about the stick structures and it was
getting interested in Then something weird happened,

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but feel free to continue. Yes, So the stick structures, this is

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what I look for, and I
look at this is this one in particulars

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along the Huron River, not too
far from ann Arbor, and I find

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these anomalous structures. They're clearly not
made by any insults trees, A lot

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of a lot of what you see
on Facebook and the interweb these days,

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people finding the structures. You know, I'm looking at them and I'm thinking,

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yeah, maybe maybe not, But
if you really have to put too

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much thought into it, I'm saying, move on trying to figure out what

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these are. But these structures are
clearly made, and I study them and

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they have a lot of similarities those
structures that I find, so I find

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those that are unique and that compelled
me to drop a recorder and I drop

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a recorder at this one last year
twenty twenty two, on August tenth,

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which happened to be my birthday,
and I picked up some really amazing audio

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clips. I think I sent them
both to you. It sounds like two

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different female subjects, and in both
clips they're on the same footage, about

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nine minutes apart from one another.
But in both clips you hear others in

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the background, other subjects, and
one female subject says honey a law,

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I will shake you one a wall, and another one nine minutes either before

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or after that one I don't recall, But on the same footage, one

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says honey, hoop hospitals closed to
the east and to the OspA, and

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that expression is immediately followed by a
melodic clicking and clucking, which many eyewitnesses

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to these beings report had, you
know, hearing. So that's how I'm

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convinced that those subjects are absolutely sasquatching. Well, I was out, you

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know, I had my little look, I made a little logo, and

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I made some stickers like this,
and I, you know, I'm pretty

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flippant about this subject, especially when
it comes to strangers. Because I liked

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the shock value and I was.
There was a couple going into this wallow

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and it's a series of paths and
such a The public are through here.

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Both of these you can see.
It's right off a path. Both these

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structures I got audio from. But
I ran into a couple and they had

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this big scope, you know,
a spotting scope, and I said,

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you look at birds are bigfoot,
and just flippantly and she said, you

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mean the ancient people, which told
me immediately she's she probably knows exactly there,

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and they're probably going going there to
study them. They're in there,

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and I've never seen them, but
I've collected plenty of audio, and the

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structures here they change all the time. So I don't know if I believe

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these people are regionally nomadic and they
may build these along the way for whatever

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reasons. I simply know that by
my recording experience that when I see these,

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they're they're likely to have been there, and they're likely to return,

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and I hope to capture them when
they do return on audio. The very

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simple method when someone asks you what
what do you believe that? What do

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you feel bigfoot? Is? How
do you answer them? I believe they're

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extra remnant populations of the giants of
the Old Testament. I believe the Old

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Testament reverse to seventeen or eighteen different
tribes of giants, and they all have

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names. I'm not expert at their
names, but I know like the Zamzumme

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are said to have been giants.
The Ammonites. Fritz's Everman, who's done

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some work in the Giants Arena,
believes there. I think he believes they're

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ammonites. I personally don't know.
There are references in sawmighty two to the

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sons of God who are mortal.
I have recordings of these creations in northern

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Lower Michigan actually chanting and it sounds
beautiful. Jeremi. I'm telling you they

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are chanting, and I've heard it
in other options, but the one that

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I have published on Michigan Aboriginal Project, which is the YouTube connection, you

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can hear them chanting and I play
it something like ten times. It takes

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a moment for your ears to acclimate
to the to the audio, but you

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can hear them chanting and it's it's
really quite beautiful. In one of my

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first recordings, I got this October
twenty third, twenty nineteen. It was

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two nights after a massive encounter that
I had, very vocal encounter, but

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not visual. I didn't see a
thing, but it was very vocal,

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and it was some moments when I
thought I was gonna die because it was

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unlike anything I've ever experienced in the
woods. It was wild and pretty pretty

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scary, but okay, so that
the recording I got two nights after that

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encounter, I have some recordings of
some vocals. One says I had an

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ascension and another voice is different vocal
signature sounds like just moments after this says

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it sounds like Kumbaya weird stuff,
and I don't know if that's what they're

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saying. I don't, but the
audio sounds exactly like that. We'll be

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of, you know, it's kind
of bizarre. Wow. It is so

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when people are when you're talking about, you know, related to the giants

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of I would say you could say, like the Old Testament, correct,

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like biblical scriptures, things like that. So you're referring to like the Nephelim

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then, or not necessarily, I
Nephelim are I believe they're most generally considered

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the unholy offspring of the sons of
gods and the daughters of men. That's

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Gen. Six one through four.
But there are other races of giants.

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It well, there are other races. We know there are racist Tians.

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I think they're Nephilim are special in
that they they're they're the unholy offspring of

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the sons of God and the daughters
are men. But that begs the question

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who are the sons of God?
Saw made two suggests their their demigods.

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There there are other gods. They
are lesser gods than the one most high,

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and they're referred to as ben Elween
and they're said to be the sons

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of God and I don't I don't
know. But they're also said to be

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mortal, you know, they are
mortal like man. And so it gets

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my creative brain wondering what, who, who, and what exactly are the

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sons of God? Who are the
Nephelim. I think the Nephelim, as

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scripture says they were there in those
days and thereafter. You've heard of the

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giant of Kandahar. I'm sure I
think that may be a modern day Nephelim.

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More a giant figure with more human
characteristics, more likely to be men

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of renowned. There's some debate as
to whether or not Noah was a giant.

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I was listening to doctor Michael Heiser
today and and there's some debate about

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whether or not that's the truth or
not. I don't know. It's a

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mystery. And I'm you know,
cliff note version, you know side note

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here. I'm formerly atheist. I've
done a one eight in that, so

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I know what it's like to rationalize
God out of my life. But I

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also know what it's like to experience
supernatural things that you just can't explain other

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than the fact that there is some
sort of supernatural order out there, and

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there is an order, there is, there is an echelon, there are

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other planes of existence, like the
encounter night October. It was doctor twenty

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first, twenty nineteen. I'm certain
I sent you that audio. That one

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starts with what I call cluck signaling. You hear two different subjects clucking,

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ones like cluck cluck in the in
the distance, and you can hear something

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closer to the recorder does another cluck
cluck, And then there's a voice that

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says something like albut a gunfire it's
not gunfires. Sounds like gunfire. It's

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like albut of gunfire. And my
mind us like, how about the gunfires?

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I see another subject saying, what
you're about to do? Might you

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know cause some trouble? What's going
to go on? Anyway? They carried

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on. Then I heard this all
chi chi chiha down by the river upstream.

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I heard this big boom and I
felt felt the percussive impact of that.

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That boom sounded like it sounded like
an empty dumpster being dropped a few

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feet off the concrete platform. And
it's just a boom. I've heard others

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have similar experiences as they related,
and I recorded that sound only one other

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time. It was a hanzo file. I sent you right at the beginning

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of that, you have a big
boom, And that's exactly what I heard

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and felt on October twenty one,
twenty nineteen. I think I found in

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October twenty nineteen one. Here okay, this has come boy Kapika Swa.

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This is the four minutes of audio
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And this this four minutes, nearly
four minutes. It's like three three

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minutes, fifty seventy seconds. This
helped me decipher what I was listening to

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in the encounter audio that I had
recorded two nights before this. I heard

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there was a lot of clicking and
clucking. It was melodic, and I

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really didn't know what to make of
it until this clip, where I have

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a few examples of that conventional speech, like the comeback capicasoas can hear that

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watery sound in the background. Yeah, I still don't fully understand that,

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but my thinking is it's it's a
form of language. I know it sounds

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weird, but I think it's a
form of language of others in the near

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vicinity of that recording. So what
kind of area were you recording this?

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And this was a longer river in
a valley, and there was a TP

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structure, it's a it's a big
TP structure. And it was the first

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night I ever recorded here. And
the quality recording is this is the best

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quality recording that I've ever gotten from
there. I've gotten some other stuff that's

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not true. There's another fifty two
second clip I sent you which captured subjects

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in the foreground, which I'm accustomed
to getting. And these are foreground recordings

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or caludio captures from the same TP. But this is what three years later.

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It was last October twenty second,
the night of and I got subjects

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close to recorder and subjects throughout the
valley, and the recorder was kicked off

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by a knock. What we understand
is knocks. I believe their vocals pretty

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darn sure of it. So it
starts out. Let you hear the last

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half of the knock, and some
then some silence, then a little snip

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and which is one tell. It's
a tell that you know you can hear

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pick up other vocals when you hear
a little snip. And it's very subtle

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there, believe it or not.
There are vocals there that are even more

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subtler than than the snip. But
anyway, it carries on. There's a

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call and then a response to the
call. So you have multiple subjects throughout

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the valley and subjects near the recorder
and they're all communicating. Wow, And

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it's not madness, it's not chaos. This is I mentioned earlier that I

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thought that there may be some excellent, you know, some ape you know

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that's not yet discovered. I used
to be I used to be of that

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mindset that it was just I think
the you know, the North American Wood

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Ape Association was spot on. What
kind of recorder were you using? Do

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you know the like specific type of
recorder or just curious? I wonder if

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I had them here? They're here
somewhere, they're both are I think they're

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Olympus products. I also have a
zoom. I have a zoom here that

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I use in camp because the battery
life on this is not as long as

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the digital the handheld. Okay,
so this is the Copica squad was captured

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on this recorder. This is a
thirty dollars Olympus recorder. It's the uh

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VN. It does not have a
computer interface, so getting audio off this

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is a pain in the ass.
So I can't recommend. But it has

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the VCVA options, so you know
that that's that's how I picked up that

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nearly four minutes of audio. Included
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You have other expressions like fatif you
know that these are expressions that come from

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a creation that has to have lips, you know, and and an ability

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to articulate. And the neat thing
about it is I have a lot of

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those conventional expressions comp paired with the
melodic clicking and clucking. So which is

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an extension of their language or separate
language. I have no idea. You

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know, I'm not I'm not always
there when when the audio's audio was captured

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from my encounter audio, you know, and that two nights before that,

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you know, I've published ten minutes
of that audio. In reality, that

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evening I only heard maybe twenty thirty
seconds of it. But there's ten minutes

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of audio that you know, you
know, five minutes before and five after

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that you can hear them in the
background, and you know, really for

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the most part you don't hear them
at all. And I never saw a

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thing that night, but I got
plenty of audio. Let's let's hear some

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more here. Let's see, let's
see what else we've got here. When

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you listen to this in between space, there are also some whispery voices in

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the distance. But this is cool. Right now. At the end of

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that you hear at dump the lump, which is awesome. And this is

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the raw audio from that. This
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just a few weeks after I started
getting into recording this particular night.

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I could do a documentary on this
night alone with this footage of love.

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I think it's just eight hours,
but it starts out with snoring, a

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juvenile snoring. You hear it's mother
coffee nearby three times and short spans of

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time costs twice within nineteen seconds.
In that nineteen the subject sounds absolutely human

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when they call, when she called. Yeah, this is some just one

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capture that night. I got snoring, I got the coffe and I got

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this kind of stuff. I also
have some really weird stuff with vocal expressions,

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unlike anything that I've captured in Northern
Michigan. So if if these are

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Sasquatching, those that are I'm recording
up north or Sasquatch, I'm wondering if

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they have regional dialects. But because
the modalities the sort of I call it

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a sort of a harmonic resonant vocal
modality. I hear that both in southern

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and in Northern Michigan and even in
the up But there are variations, and

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I don't know if I'm if they're
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Sure, but this kind of stuff
is typical Sasquatch, and I got a

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lot of that typical Sasquatch. Same
with the weird stuff that night January sixth,

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so so very interesting. It's weird. But my okay, this is

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oh yeah, so you here's subjects
in the background. That one in the

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foreground with the whistle that's sweet hot
whistle. I've recorded that, actually,

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that's sweethet, that's hot. I've
recorded that in Lower Michigan, very similar

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expression, and I think I call
it the sweet hot expression. It's a

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recording and I captured some years ago, just a few years ago, because

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I haven't been recording more than four
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you find those structures, you can
drop a recorder and you can consistently get

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this kind of these kinds of strange
vocals. When you're getting recordings like this,

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how how far out into the woods
are you? Are you in a

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like woods near a town or is
it pretty remote or well? For example,

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the Huron River expressions that I got, it was the recording, the

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recording that just you wear right before
this one that's within the city limits of

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ann Arbor. Okay, you can
go along. There are many parks are

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along the Huron River ran around ann
Arbor. I've only been a couple of

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them, and you can find structures
in there. And that's what I do.

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What I've located an anomalous structure,
clearly manipulated, made by you know,

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you think it may it may have
been made by local kids. The

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only way to find out if if
it was or not is to drop a

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recorder. And that's what I've put
to them. Okay, So your main

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evidence for differentiating between sasquatch structure verse
like a bushcraft structure, is what you

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capture through audio. Yeah, okay, I got it. Yeah, that's

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really really interesting. Good, it's
a good verification, you know, And

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I don't know. Sometimes I I
listened to some old stuff. Actually I

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started recording. I think it was
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I recently went back and revisited some
of those old recordings, which which I

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hadn't really scored before because I thought
nothing was on them. But when you're

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when I've done this a few years
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up on these very subtle signs,
like the snip that is often accompanied with

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other vocalizations when you peel away the
white noise, the general in of the

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environment feel the way the white noise
and amplify it a little bit in minute

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steps, to take big, little
steps. I don't always go with the

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Range of correction, like a de
noise or anything like that. I

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do little steps of that and repeated
little steps, and it's amazing what you

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can what comes out in terms of
sheer vocals. I mean, these are

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these are expressions. It is speech, and sometimes they sound like beasts,

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demons. Other times they sound like, you know, effeminate, harmless things

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or little sprites, little fairies.
I've picked up all all sorts of types

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of vocal vocal expressions, which confuses
things. You know, do the sasquash

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speaking all these different ways or do
they travel in bands of you know,

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of other dimensional creations. I have
no idea. But the audio that I've

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picked up, specially the ten minute
audio, most of which I did not

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hear at the time, begs a
lot of questions. Because you listen to

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ten minutes, you'll hear things that
sound demonic, beastly, angelic, sprightly,

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uh, you sound gremlini ish,
weird, really really weird stuff,

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and it makes you wander, are
these disembodied spirits, you know, as

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as Michael Heiser has said, you
know, those that are condemned to the

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dark, to the night, to
the underworld. You know, I don't

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know, I tell you, Jeremiah. When I got home after that encounter

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I had on the it was the
twenty first, It was a Monday,

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twenty first October twenty nineteen. I
was pretty messed up, and I,

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you know, you can't talk to
your family or friends, or I couldn't

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talk to my wife about it,
and you have to kind of eat it

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up. And about a month later
I actually got got the nerve up to

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listen to the audio. I didn't
think it was going to be good audio

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because it was raining that night.
The recorder was under the tarp, and

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so I, you know, kind
of held onto it. My wife is

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just getting home right now if you're
hear any noise in the background. So

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anyway, for a month, I
was a it was getting over a case

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of my nerves right in his sweetheart. And I listened to it and clean

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up the audio, and then I
kind of wish I hadn't because I was

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messed up for a few more months
after that, because it was let's head

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on to the next one. Here
the last third of this, you hear

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a little sprightly voice sounds like coming. And prior to that, of course,

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you hear that in melodic clicky clucky
stuff. So this is a way

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they speak. And I don't know
if these are two different subjects because they

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keep coming and the sprightly voice at
the end, it looks like it looks

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to be a different subject because the
the intensity of color isn't there. So

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if you can imagine a three D
setting, the brighter vocalizations or prints here

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on the on the sonogram sonogram are
brighter. I imagine they're closer to the

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recorder. But these day was this
I think this is one of my most

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recent recordings. I can't tell.
It's a little blurry on the on the

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file, I can hardly read it. But but so there's an example of

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two different subjects, one speaking in
a very furtive, you know, sprightly

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way, and they communicate with that
click melodic clicking and clucking. I've got

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a ton of that stuff. Wow. And was this also in a stick

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structure that you captured? Yea,
this one? Yes, okay, interesting,

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Yeah, this was the very same
stick structure. Some years later after

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the same structure as I got the
capiaswa and other vocalizations. Now this stuff

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is not always a here. When
I'm reviewing audio, you need to really

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fine tune and actively listen to the
subtle stuff. Like I said earlier,

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you can have a subtle snip and
that that's an indication to me that there's

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there may be something novelists there.
So I just cut the clip, save

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it later, and I address it. Then I'll go back and clarify it,

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reduced the noise, go through a
process and see what I get.

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And very often you get this weird, very esoteric, you know, a

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form of communication we will never understand. I don't believe about to hear what's

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a hansom? Now it gets really
weird here, Jeremiah. Listen to this

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buzzing and humming. You see on
a spectrograph above there there's this huge amplification

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and there's also an intensifying yellow at
the base. And this is what I

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believe to be an infrasonic vocal expression. The intensifying yellow at the bottom of

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each of the spectagraph corresponds with that
amplification in the spectrograph, so it's not

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yeah, so it really picks up
on the spectrograph. You know something's there,

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but you really kind of have to. If you're not paying attention,

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you're not going to hear it.
But it's represented by that intense yellowing down

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there. And I believe this is
infrasonic origins of speech. And it is

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a buzzing and like I said,
I call it a harmonic resonant, but

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it's also a buzzing and humming.
And back to our earlier discussion on the

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Old Testament, there are a people
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referred to as the zams you Meme. They only get one mentioned in the

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Bible. Zamzuomeme got their name from
the word zimzoom. It's an ancient Hebrew

405
00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:45.280
word that means to buzz or to
hump. So this is that buzzing,

406
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:52.599
humming vocal modality which perhaps the zamzu
Meme giants people. Perhaps that's how they

407
00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:59.000
got their name. I don't know. It's speculation, but it seems to

408
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:06.199
pair well between my investigation into this
subject and my biblical studies. It is

409
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:13.239
fascinating this audio clip. I was
like, I can't even begin to imagine

410
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:15.239
what's going on in here. And
it was this also in a stick structure

411
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:21.280
as well. This was recorded in
a place and you can see. I

412
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:27.199
have a I have a publication on
the Michigan Aboriginal Project on YouTube. It's

413
00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:36.199
called Vocal Village two recorder placements,
and you can see the actual village if

414
00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:39.960
you will that I was in.
It was the singular highest concentration of stick

415
00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:45.679
structures that I've ever come across in
the woods. And I found it not

416
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:50.079
by my own in my own doing
other than following a hunch, but I

417
00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:52.960
met a waitress who said she saw
one. She saw one of these huge.

418
00:37:53.639 --> 00:37:58.480
She said it was huge, told
me where it was, just outside

419
00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:01.440
of town, and this is not
far outside of Marquette, Michigan. And

420
00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:07.079
so I went there and I found
I started finding the structural artifacts and the

421
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:10.639
highest concentration of structural artifacts in the
rolls, TP's, wigwams, Lean twos

422
00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:15.039
and variations of all of the that
so I chose two structures. This was

423
00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:21.039
the first structure I chose to pug
and this happened sometime during the night.

424
00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:27.400
Then the other structure I bugged came
off and I know that they had visited

425
00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:34.159
where I was just standing right after
I left because the other record was engaged

426
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:39.800
to begin on VCVA mode at eight
o'clock and that was about forty minutes after

427
00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:44.400
I left the area. So the
recording on the other one and you can

428
00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:51.880
I'm sure, I know I've sent
you that clip, but it's it's bizarre.

429
00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:57.679
Before we leave this one, it
does it almost sound like something's being

430
00:38:57.679 --> 00:39:00.039
thrown around or is that? Do
you take the is like that's the voice

431
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:05.199
the whole time. I think it's
all vocals. I think all of them.

432
00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:08.800
There's that game that I experienced and
an account it. I didn't experience

433
00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:17.039
it on this one because I wasn't
present when I first heard this. It

434
00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:22.280
sounded like and this is like in
the middle of the night. It sounded

435
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:28.320
like heavy construction equipment kind of distance. Now I cleaned it up and amplified

436
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:34.880
it a little bit. Yeah,
that's that's clearly the vocals. I would

437
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:44.239
just like to hear that outside your
tent. There's the weird stuff that heavy

438
00:39:44.280 --> 00:39:49.760
buzz and how heavy buzz really gets
you too. Yeah, well, I've

439
00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:55.480
heard that orbs. I heard one
witness of ORBS say that it did buzz

440
00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:00.480
like that. Most people see orbs
say they don't make it sound at all,

441
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:04.360
But I don't know what it is. It sounds like you would imagine

442
00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:12.480
a spaceship might sound right, I
don't know, it's just like, yeah,

443
00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:15.360
you kidding me. I never,
honestly, I never thought any of

444
00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:22.960
this was possible. But they give
themselves away by by making these structures,

445
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:25.840
and I have to do is find
them. And that's fun. If there's

446
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:30.440
you have some sort of spirit of
adventuring. It gets you out, you

447
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:34.239
know, and gets you out,
get you busy, keeps you. It

448
00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:39.960
makes me feel like a little kid
in the woods. Oh that's the snip.

449
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:46.199
Here's a call, and here's a
response to the call coming up.

450
00:41:04.719 --> 00:41:27.480
Yes, is this is that scenario? The fifty two second clip that I

451
00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:34.840
got with subjects both near and afar
from the recording. But that was amazing.

452
00:41:34.920 --> 00:41:40.519
I still, I still. I've
heard elements of this recorded by other

453
00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:45.519
people here and there. Put all
of this together. You got a whistle,

454
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:50.920
you got snip, you got actual
conventional speech, you have a call,

455
00:41:51.559 --> 00:42:00.320
you have a siren sound like the
sorry, audience terrible, not the

456
00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:06.480
worst thing they've ever heard before.
I'm terrible with that stuff. But yeah,

457
00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:09.400
this is this is this is a
scenario where you know, the multiple

458
00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:15.159
subjects throughout the valley and it's not
chaos. It's not like this Gigantropithecus Blackie,

459
00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:19.920
who was portrayed as being a you
know, slow, dumb, reclusive

460
00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:25.880
ape in the woods. This is
like a freaking assembly and they're all communicating

461
00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:32.800
and they're not talking over one another. Wait, sorry, wait a second.

462
00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:37.360
Do you know this? So something
just went off in my head?

463
00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:43.360
Do you know? What comes out
a lot recently in different interviews is recordings

464
00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:49.920
of almost creatures singing. I'd like
to hear those. Have you ever experienced

465
00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:53.559
that? I've heard them sing quite
honestly, though you have. I have,

466
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:57.920
and it's weird. It almost sounds
like some old like him type.

467
00:42:58.039 --> 00:43:01.920
It's very weird. Well, you
want to hear something. We're chanting.

468
00:43:02.599 --> 00:43:09.360
I have chanting from the same from
the same TP that this audio was captured.

469
00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:15.599
I have other audio that's chanting and
it's the audience can look down my

470
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:20.840
video feed and it says chanting and
I question sacred space. So you know

471
00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:25.199
they're chanting, you know. I
have that, And I have another other

472
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:31.400
saying I had an an ascension.
Yeah, and I have others that sound

473
00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:37.320
absolutely demonic. You have to wonder
what the hell they are. You know,

474
00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:43.599
I don't know, and I'm looking
for answers. I'll never proclaim to

475
00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:47.679
know the true reality is because I
don't think it's up for us to know.

476
00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:53.679
But I'm I'm I'm curious enough to
keep trying, and and it's really

477
00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:59.679
fun. I call it mining vocal
gems from from the depths of the woods,

478
00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:02.760
right, because you're never going to
get what you're going to get.

479
00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:07.079
I apologize for cutting in like that. I was like it just it came

480
00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:09.519
out of nowhere. I was like, man, that kind of lines up

481
00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:15.280
directly with what he's been talking about, just you know, talking about the

482
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:24.280
giant slash, not as much ape
creature view of things. Let's I think

483
00:44:24.280 --> 00:44:42.199
you've got one of a video of
an actual recorder here that was that was

484
00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:47.719
this this one and this is in
the same wallow as the recording that you

485
00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:52.719
played right before the Hanso file.
This happened right after I left, so

486
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:57.159
eyes were on me. And I
know this because I've reviewed the audio and

487
00:44:57.199 --> 00:45:00.800
I've picked up some things more of
the esoteric nature that are easily missed.

488
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:12.239
We'll be back with more Bigfoot Society
after these words from our sponsors. But

489
00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:15.119
they were there, their eyes were
on me, and as soon as I

490
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:19.679
left, they can't they came and
they must they were checking out what I

491
00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:23.320
left. I suppose that's how I
got that recording. This is the same

492
00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:30.000
wallow that the waitress told me about
and you said around Marquette. Yeah,

493
00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:46.639
okay, I'm gonna let's tell one
more time, so you have convention.

494
00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:51.400
I don't like that. Yeah,
I don't like that chance. I call

495
00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:57.440
it a piste off sasquatch. Yeah, yeah, I don't like it either.

496
00:45:57.480 --> 00:46:01.280
It sounds sounds malicious. It does. Yeah, it's not that's not

497
00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:07.760
a good vocal sound. I mean, it's an excellent recording, but the

498
00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:12.440
subject is not having a good day. Yeah no, well sure, this

499
00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:16.719
is the closest. Now everybody's familiar
with the Sierra Sounds. This video audio

500
00:46:16.760 --> 00:46:22.599
clip is the closest thing I have
that is similar to Ron Moorehead's recordings.

501
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:27.800
Interesting, uh, most everything else
I got is really very different. So

502
00:46:29.079 --> 00:46:32.119
you know, I don't believe they're
all alike. You know, Mike Patterson

503
00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:37.800
has some some audio. I'm not
one to say that that's legit or not.

504
00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:40.880
I've always thought that you know,
you know, I don't have any

505
00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:45.639
reason to doubt Mike Patterson, but
it's very different and his stuff is very

506
00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:51.079
different from from Ron mooreheads and my
stuff is very different from either one of

507
00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:57.639
theirs. So you know, maybe
Mike Patterson did record or flask watch.

508
00:46:57.679 --> 00:47:04.079
I have no idea. Yeah,
that's that's a whole different episode. Yeahs

509
00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:07.239
and stuff for sure, but it's
different part of the country, different part

510
00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:09.320
of the world. So, you
know, I don't think anybody can say

511
00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:13.920
that, you know, they're all
alike. You can't come to that conclusion.

512
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:17.280
We can't say that they're all Nephelm. We can't say that they're all

513
00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:21.960
you know, sons of God,
you know, if if they still exist.

514
00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:27.719
And I'm of the mindset formerly atheist
and and such that I have yet

515
00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:30.760
to find any misleading information of the
Bible, which is, you know,

516
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:39.199
another mind blowing thing to accept.
So I don't know this reality is it's

517
00:47:39.239 --> 00:47:43.880
real? Right? So I hope
to I hope to inspire younger. You

518
00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:46.760
know, my demographic is all one
hundred percent male between fifty five and sixty

519
00:47:46.760 --> 00:47:52.719
four. Sad, Yeah, it's
the same thing. Yeah, how do

520
00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:57.119
you reach younger? I want to
I want to inspire young men to get

521
00:47:57.119 --> 00:48:00.159
out of their homes, get out
of their parents basement, get off the

522
00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:06.599
game consoles, go out and be
the man that you know you were intended

523
00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:08.000
to be. And you can do
it with this. I mean, this

524
00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:14.639
god thing I found is real.
This bigfoot thing I've found is quite real,

525
00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:20.159
and it's an amazing combination. And
I do believe we are all of

526
00:48:20.239 --> 00:48:25.079
the same creation. We're all made
of this same hidden stuff, and there's

527
00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:31.559
so much more to learn about the
very realities of this world. The mysteries

528
00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:37.599
are they abound. There are absolutely
mysteries out there, which is one of

529
00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:45.480
the main reasons that I do this
podcast to help people share the mysteries that

530
00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:52.760
they are that they've experienced in their
investigating the kind of saving that the video.

531
00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:59.480
There's a video you sent and I'm
very curious about this, but yeah,

532
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:01.599
do you want do you just want
to play it and then share what

533
00:49:01.719 --> 00:49:05.719
happened, or do you need to
say anything before we play it? Or

534
00:49:06.559 --> 00:49:10.119
well? I think it's another fifty
one second clip that looks mainly black and

535
00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:13.960
white, although it's in color.
Were shot in color. It looks black

536
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:16.639
and white because it was at night
and I was with my light on.

537
00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:22.880
So this happened. This is October
thirtieth, twenty sixteen. It was my

538
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:28.679
second trip since I started looking into
the subject, actually entering the field,

539
00:49:28.719 --> 00:49:32.000
which was mid September, So this
is like what five six weeks later.

540
00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:37.400
I think it was my seventh night
in the woods since I entered the field

541
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:39.920
trying to trying to find one,
and I actually captured one. I had

542
00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:47.159
an encounter and captured either it or
a sim or a subject with this one

543
00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:52.559
on video. So I went to
the side of the camp and I was

544
00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:55.639
brushing my teeth, I went to
spit toothpaste out. I had my red

545
00:49:55.719 --> 00:50:00.519
head lamp on and I look up
and I'm looking at these big eyes and

546
00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:06.800
this is about probably sixty eighty feet
away, and I'm thinking, Okay,

547
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:10.840
what's going on here? What is
it? And I'm observing it never moved

548
00:50:10.920 --> 00:50:15.480
a millimeter, not a single millimeter, and we just stared at each other

549
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:21.000
for the longest time. And it
was within that time that I found that

550
00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:23.360
I determined that it was in fact, I was having a sasquashing encounter.

551
00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:29.400
These eyes were huge, and they
were very wide set, and they never

552
00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:37.199
moved, and the color was like
the very pale greenish yellowish hue to them,

553
00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:42.320
and it's very peaceful. It's just
a very benign, peaceful But we'd

554
00:50:42.360 --> 00:50:45.719
just stare at sat and stare for
the longest time. Ultimately it closed its

555
00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:47.480
right eye, so the one on
the left, by my perspective, it

556
00:50:47.599 --> 00:50:52.800
just closed. It just disappeared to
it was extinguished. And the other eye

557
00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:58.480
remained there. And I think that
it was perhaps getting a little over sensitized

558
00:50:58.519 --> 00:51:02.880
to my ear, becomes sensitive to
my light, the reason why it closed

559
00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:07.599
that one eye. So we looked
at the other. There was another minute

560
00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:15.360
or two and I decided to as
nonchalantly as possible, walk back into the

561
00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:20.760
camp. I grab my flashlight,
I grab my video camera and I capture

562
00:51:20.840 --> 00:51:22.719
when in the background. So it's
important for the honest you know that the

563
00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:25.760
subject is in the background. And
when I do the scrubbing of it,

564
00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:32.199
it is magnified, but it shows
enough detail that you can see the ocular

565
00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:36.880
recess. You can see the auricular
recess. You see the shape of the

566
00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:39.119
hominant body. It's an upright you
know. You see it pivot. The

567
00:51:39.199 --> 00:51:44.079
natural movement is pivoting from the right
to the left, and it's just trying

568
00:51:44.119 --> 00:51:51.920
to get out of the light of
my flashlight. So that's the natural action

569
00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:57.199
of that subject in the background.
But I show you the original clip and

570
00:51:57.840 --> 00:52:00.400
the scrub versions, so go for
it. Let's take a look. Nice.

571
00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:14.880
So right to left when it pivots
left, you see the ocular recess,

572
00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:19.880
auricular recess shape of the body,
the large trapezius muscles on the upper

573
00:52:19.960 --> 00:52:31.000
back clearly, and Jeremiah here a
little a subtle cooing at the four second

574
00:52:31.079 --> 00:52:40.840
mark of the raw audio, which
is a sasquash vocal m. So I

575
00:52:40.880 --> 00:52:45.239
don't believe the subject was alone.
I'm not sure if this is the one

576
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:51.599
I was staring down prior, because
when I was staring down prior was actually

577
00:52:51.639 --> 00:52:53.519
to the left of that. But
they could have moved to when ilse to

578
00:52:53.599 --> 00:52:58.320
grabbed my gear. I want to
play it one more time. Okay,

579
00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:02.400
there was back in the background and
there it's not Man, it is so

580
00:53:02.639 --> 00:53:07.519
hard to see in the actual video, it really is. It's really quick.

581
00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:10.239
Yeah, and it wasn't until February
the following year, so there's over

582
00:53:10.360 --> 00:53:15.559
four months at that video. Because
I didn't see anything when I grabbed the

583
00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:20.320
camera in the flashion, I didn't
I didn't know. I can't capture this.

584
00:53:20.760 --> 00:53:22.960
I didn't think I saw anything,
and I was convinced. And the

585
00:53:23.039 --> 00:53:27.960
reason why I was staring at this
thing so long was because I knew if

586
00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:31.760
I if I broke eye contact,
I'd never see it again. So I

587
00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:36.880
didn't think I got anything that night. And then that caught my eye and

588
00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:43.639
when I was getting a little cabin
fever here in February, and that's what

589
00:53:43.840 --> 00:53:49.280
came of it. Not but the
best evidence. But listen, it's enough

590
00:53:49.360 --> 00:53:52.480
tool to show the shape of the
body. It is cool because you can

591
00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:57.119
see the shape of the body and
movement. It's got movement. After you

592
00:53:57.840 --> 00:54:00.320
found that in the video, did
you go back to that location and try

593
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:06.159
to figure out like how tall the
creature was? Yeah, like five and

594
00:54:06.159 --> 00:54:10.719
a half six feet. You know, that's just an estimate, you know,

595
00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:14.880
And I guess, you know,
I don't know. It was the

596
00:54:15.039 --> 00:54:17.639
next trip when I did that,
So it had to have been the following

597
00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:24.159
spring when I was trying to recreate
that. So, but that's right outside

598
00:54:24.239 --> 00:54:30.199
the my traditional catron I go.
I'm there twice a year most every year.

599
00:54:31.360 --> 00:54:37.119
So is that also is that also
Marquette area or this is the northern

600
00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:44.039
Lower Michigan. Okay, So I've
also had a question to ask you are

601
00:54:44.079 --> 00:54:49.920
you have you ever looked into like
the Glenny part of Michigan before Glenny,

602
00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:54.320
Like, I know there was a
Glenny. It's like northern Lower Michigan.

603
00:54:54.480 --> 00:55:00.519
I had. I talked to a
guy that had interesting thing up into him

604
00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:05.360
in Glenny one. So just a
random question, But is that Glenny?

605
00:55:05.480 --> 00:55:07.920
I know I've been there, I
know I've seen it. Is it near

606
00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:14.679
Glenn Arbor? I do not know
anyway? Actually, yeah, wherever there

607
00:55:14.679 --> 00:55:17.039
are rivers and streams in Michigan,
you have populations of these things. That

608
00:55:17.360 --> 00:55:23.119
is true. It is let me
look at real quick. It's in the

609
00:55:23.239 --> 00:55:30.920
middle of a huge forest area.
I guess that's a lot of yourn manasty.

610
00:55:34.440 --> 00:55:40.440
It's it's close to the east eastern
part of the northern part Okay,

611
00:55:40.519 --> 00:55:47.719
Glenny, Michigan. Okay, yeah, so that is perhaps the Huron National

612
00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:53.880
Forest. Okay, Glenny. I
used to hunt north of Glenny. And

613
00:55:57.519 --> 00:56:00.159
oh there's Asakota. Okay. I
used to hunt Pina and I've had some

614
00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:09.880
interesting experiences and now Peina along the
Sage watch really yeah, yeah, two

615
00:56:10.679 --> 00:56:16.360
two sidings and two other occurrences.
One was a slap on the side of

616
00:56:16.440 --> 00:56:20.039
the cabin. We were up there
hunting. There was a bunch of guys.

617
00:56:20.119 --> 00:56:22.719
We were being rambunctious and we heard
this loud crack on the side and

618
00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:28.119
it was totally from the side of
the cabin. And one of the Tony's,

619
00:56:29.239 --> 00:56:31.199
one of the an Italian family,
a lot of Toni's in this family

620
00:56:31.440 --> 00:56:37.079
as well their guests. He went
out there and there was there was nothing,

621
00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:38.280
nothing on them. He said,
it was probably a stick on the

622
00:56:38.360 --> 00:56:42.199
roof, but there's no stick on
the roof. There's nothing there. It

623
00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:45.039
was a loud crack on the side
and the only thing that I it was

624
00:56:45.079 --> 00:56:49.239
just remained a mystery until I got
into this subject and learned that, you

625
00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:52.559
know, the house slapping was a
thing, right, So yeah, it's

626
00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:54.559
a huge deal. Yeah, yeah, and it was. It was a

627
00:56:55.159 --> 00:57:04.159
it was a loud quickness clap,
startling. Actually, man, pretty crazy.

628
00:57:04.239 --> 00:57:06.880
But yeah, we're out there and
they're probably you know the last question,

629
00:57:06.960 --> 00:57:12.039
probably out they would laughing because their
pranksters. It's like the juvie that

630
00:57:12.079 --> 00:57:16.360
woke me up last fall. That
was that was not very nice. It

631
00:57:16.440 --> 00:57:22.559
was a malicious act. But yeah, they'll they'll they'll mess with you.

632
00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:29.679
They will definitely mess with you.
If so, your your viewpoint of that

633
00:57:29.880 --> 00:57:37.760
they are a giant creature. Do
you think it would be possible to communicate

634
00:57:37.880 --> 00:57:44.440
with them in some way? Yes? And well yeah, I mean I

635
00:57:44.559 --> 00:57:46.280
have, I've communicated with him directly, like the juviney. I mean,

636
00:57:46.719 --> 00:57:51.159
he's God gave me this. He
woke me up at six am. It

637
00:57:51.239 --> 00:57:53.199
was last October twenty fourth, the
morning. I was a Monday morning,

638
00:57:53.519 --> 00:57:57.880
it was raining, six am.
I was in a in a deep sleep

639
00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:00.320
and it hissed step it was sound
like a hiss. It was like a

640
00:58:00.480 --> 00:58:07.599
gurgly, gravelly vocalization, which was
speech. The recorder was going, so

641
00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:12.159
you can even the audience can go
and listen to that. It's just encounter

642
00:58:12.360 --> 00:58:19.800
audio, and you can hear how
demonic that one actually sounds. It doesn't

643
00:58:21.239 --> 00:58:23.440
I don't know if it is or
not, but it certainly sound that way.

644
00:58:23.480 --> 00:58:28.360
And to be awakened by this gurgly, graveley hiss at six am for

645
00:58:28.599 --> 00:58:32.159
really one maybe one of the first
times I'd gotten any decent deep sleep in

646
00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:44.960
three nights. You know that that
happened. It's something incredible, really interesting

647
00:58:45.079 --> 00:58:50.960
audio James, and I think this
is a great episode because it makes people

648
00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:57.199
go down a lot of rabbit trails
and kind of think about certain things in

649
00:58:57.239 --> 00:59:00.599
their minds and how they feel about
them. And I think it's going to

650
00:59:00.679 --> 00:59:08.760
really take a lot of people on
a interesting journey. There's way more of

651
00:59:09.599 --> 00:59:14.079
evidence you've captured on your YouTube channel, correct, correct, Yeah, And

652
00:59:14.159 --> 00:59:16.199
I don't share everything. I've got
some stuff, like I said that not

653
00:59:16.679 --> 00:59:22.480
January sixth. I could do it
a full documentary for hours long on that

654
00:59:22.760 --> 00:59:27.920
and the very and I will eventually, but it's just it's time. And

655
00:59:27.960 --> 00:59:30.679
you don't notice my amo is I'm
not always out there. I don't always

656
00:59:30.679 --> 00:59:34.400
put myself out there, and this
is why I'm grateful for this opportunity,

657
00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:37.800
because people can get to know me
a little bit better. But on my

658
00:59:37.880 --> 00:59:44.239
own channel, I'm not that sensationalistic. I put out my evidence because it's

659
00:59:44.320 --> 00:59:46.639
fun. These are my vocal gems
that I've mined from the woods, and

660
00:59:46.719 --> 00:59:52.360
I just want to share them.
I think ultimately the greater community will catch

661
00:59:52.480 --> 01:00:00.400
on to this, these unique vocals. Whether there's unique to the region Michigan,

662
01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:06.199
I don't know, because there's certainly
a lot different from Ron mooreheads now

663
01:00:06.440 --> 01:00:09.760
Ron mooreheads. I don't know if
he actually recorded this incident, but he

664
01:00:09.840 --> 01:00:14.920
said through the night that it sounded
as if you know, they came into

665
01:00:14.960 --> 01:00:16.519
his camp and they were making all
sorts of racket and he thought the place

666
01:00:16.639 --> 01:00:22.239
was being torn up. They have
that clackey that in the last couple of

667
01:00:22.760 --> 01:00:29.800
clips you played, there are these
clackey rhythmic you know, clicks and whatever,

668
01:00:30.280 --> 01:00:31.920
and they can be really loud.
They can be so loud that they

669
01:00:31.960 --> 01:00:36.960
sound like gun shots. I'm not
kidding. I've recorded some of that and

670
01:00:37.920 --> 01:00:45.159
haven't even that. But and that
the gun shots, that's kind of more

671
01:00:45.199 --> 01:00:49.000
on speculation. I have to cross
reference in other audio, but I believe

672
01:00:49.800 --> 01:00:52.960
that to be true. I've and
by witness testimony we hear that. You

673
01:00:52.039 --> 01:00:55.079
know, people have said they sound
like gun shots. I mean, they're

674
01:00:55.199 --> 01:01:02.320
that loud. It's such an other
world, the experience that you just don't

675
01:01:02.360 --> 01:01:07.719
see coming, You just don't see
it coming at all. And you know,

676
01:01:07.800 --> 01:01:10.599
why aren't we told about this by
our powers to be by our governments?

677
01:01:10.760 --> 01:01:15.760
Right? Well, personally, I
think it is their role because with

678
01:01:15.440 --> 01:01:20.039
one of their primary roles is to
protect us, right, they're very well

679
01:01:20.079 --> 01:01:24.119
of this phenomenon. I know they
are. I think your audience believes it

680
01:01:24.199 --> 01:01:29.199
as well. I mean, if
they're if you look, well, one

681
01:01:29.280 --> 01:01:35.559
thing's for certain. I'm sure that
they know more than they are sharing.

682
01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:40.760
That's for sure. I almost guarantee
that. But we'll see if that ever,

683
01:01:42.199 --> 01:01:46.000
if anything ever comes out. But
yeah, James, this has been

684
01:01:46.880 --> 01:01:52.559
a very interesting episode. I'm so
thankful you're able to come on and to

685
01:01:52.719 --> 01:01:59.639
share what you've captured so far it's
a small portion of that, and encourage

686
01:01:59.639 --> 01:02:02.000
people to go check out your channel, subscribe to that, and thank you

687
01:02:02.880 --> 01:02:07.840
watch through all the different videos you
have. But is there are there any

688
01:02:07.920 --> 01:02:14.360
other things that you would like people
to be aware of ways that they can

689
01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:20.039
keep up to date with the project. I've got Michigan Aboriginal dot Com is

690
01:02:20.480 --> 01:02:23.480
my main hub. There are there
are links to my YouTube channel. There's

691
01:02:23.480 --> 01:02:29.719
a link to a store I made
made this little logo has a lot,

692
01:02:29.880 --> 01:02:32.360
you know. That's you know,
I've yet to break two hundred dollars in

693
01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:36.320
the past like fourteen months that that
store has been up. And I don't

694
01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:39.239
push it that are but if anybody
cares, somebody a T shirt it goes

695
01:02:39.320 --> 01:02:45.159
a long way to I'm between jobs
right now, so little gas money to

696
01:02:45.239 --> 01:02:49.559
go off Dan Arbor North would be
appreciated, right and you get something really

697
01:02:49.639 --> 01:02:53.800
cool and in exchange. But another
thing just I haven't got a lot of

698
01:02:53.840 --> 01:02:57.320
audio, and I put it out
there. I share it freely and willingly.

699
01:02:58.079 --> 01:03:02.199
I encourage the audience not to play
this in the woods. Do not

700
01:03:02.400 --> 01:03:07.360
play anything like this in the woods. I do encourage the audience, if

701
01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:10.880
they're interested in doing something like this, to look for those structures in likely

702
01:03:12.039 --> 01:03:20.039
areas and just leave a recorder hide
them as best she can. I'm pretty

703
01:03:20.039 --> 01:03:24.880
sure they're going to find the recorder, because they usually do. But please

704
01:03:24.920 --> 01:03:30.239
don't, Please people, don't.
It's your own safety. We don't know

705
01:03:30.360 --> 01:03:32.800
what sort of response you might get, you know, playing this in the

706
01:03:32.800 --> 01:03:37.000
woods. Please don't play my stuff
in the woods. Keep it yourself,

707
01:03:37.280 --> 01:03:42.480
learn from it. There are a
variety of vocal modalities that you can learn

708
01:03:42.559 --> 01:03:45.119
about and actually perhaps be in tune
to the next time you're out in the

709
01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:49.039
woods. Because at times, when
they're speaking, when they're around you,

710
01:03:49.199 --> 01:03:52.760
you don't necessarily see them, you
don't hear them, but sometimes you'll hear

711
01:03:53.280 --> 01:03:59.559
rarely do hear them. Sometimes you'll
hear or sense a sort of like a

712
01:03:59.639 --> 01:04:04.880
harmon resonance on your ear drums.
Pay attention to that. When the hair

713
01:04:04.960 --> 01:04:08.360
on the back of your neck goes
up, pay attention to that. That

714
01:04:08.519 --> 01:04:14.320
could be a response to they're communicating
around us, and they do that quite

715
01:04:15.400 --> 01:04:23.320
ably depthly, and we're none the
wiser. The ten minutes of audio Encounter

716
01:04:23.440 --> 01:04:30.760
audio that I've published, it's called
in their Midst, In their Midst one

717
01:04:30.800 --> 01:04:32.599
on warning, high strangeness, not
for the faint of heart, and the

718
01:04:32.679 --> 01:04:40.039
other ones in their Midst ten minutes
uninterrupted, each has something else to offer

719
01:04:40.119 --> 01:04:46.440
their different filtered versions of the same
raw footage. But listen to both because

720
01:04:47.239 --> 01:04:53.639
you'll hear things that are just unbelievable. If the three minute fifty second part

721
01:04:53.719 --> 01:04:57.800
of that audio, you'll hear one
subject it sounds like he's in the background,

722
01:04:58.199 --> 01:05:03.800
it says ebanopsia a really cool But
all sorts of little vocal gems in

723
01:05:03.880 --> 01:05:10.079
there that are fun to find.
And when you're in the woods and you

724
01:05:11.039 --> 01:05:13.719
you you know, the hair goes
up on your back, and or you

725
01:05:13.880 --> 01:05:18.119
sense that something's really not quite right, just pay extra attention because you might

726
01:05:18.800 --> 01:05:25.559
have a visitation. They're they're out
there and they're well aware of our presence.

727
01:05:27.119 --> 01:05:32.760
It is. It is amazing,
And I've been scared pretty pretty pretty

728
01:05:32.840 --> 01:05:41.639
darn scared and terrified. But looking
back, they haven't harmed me. They've

729
01:05:41.679 --> 01:05:45.920
scared me plenty. They'll mess with
you. If everybody out there sees one

730
01:05:47.119 --> 01:05:50.800
say hi, you know, they
do have an ability to communicate and if

731
01:05:50.840 --> 01:05:58.239
you treat them with respect, which
is a really hard thing to do depending

732
01:05:58.280 --> 01:06:04.320
on the circumstances. Just seeing one
of these things can can leave you speechless.

733
01:06:08.320 --> 01:06:10.440
But thinking of all that I've been
through with the past few years,

734
01:06:10.480 --> 01:06:14.039
it's been one of the world's greatest
adventures on a beer budget that I could

735
01:06:14.039 --> 01:06:17.159
ever imagine. There you go.
Is there a way that people can reach

736
01:06:17.199 --> 01:06:21.719
out to you, like if they've
experienced things that are similar to this?

737
01:06:21.880 --> 01:06:25.320
And there I go? Man,
this is I totally get it. Yeah.

738
01:06:25.599 --> 01:06:30.320
Well, there's a the Facebook group
which Hot and Cold on action.

739
01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:35.440
It's Michigan Aboriginal Projects. You can
on Michigan Aboriginal dot com. There's a

740
01:06:35.599 --> 01:06:44.000
contact me section there. There's also
a list of podcasts that I've been on

741
01:06:44.800 --> 01:06:48.760
years of course, will be on
their likely tomorrow if I get off my

742
01:06:48.880 --> 01:06:53.719
lazy, but my wife are not
going to go to the season family in

743
01:06:53.800 --> 01:06:59.920
southern Ohio, which is exciting to
me because southern Ohio is around the Glaci

744
01:07:00.280 --> 01:07:02.400
Moraines, right, yeah, so, and that's where I used to play

745
01:07:02.400 --> 01:07:06.239
as a kid, in the streams
and in those streams, in those green

746
01:07:06.320 --> 01:07:10.199
ways. I have found structures.
I haven't recorded there yet, but there

747
01:07:10.239 --> 01:07:15.280
are plenty of structures around southern Ohio. That's you know, if any of

748
01:07:15.320 --> 01:07:19.360
your listening to audiences down there go
to Grant Park, you know, not

749
01:07:19.559 --> 01:07:24.719
just South of Date and South and
Western Date, and I think lots of

750
01:07:24.760 --> 01:07:28.599
structures in there. There'll be someone
that in the comments on YouTube that's been

751
01:07:28.679 --> 01:07:31.679
like I totally go there or I
went there the structures love to hear that.

752
01:07:31.880 --> 01:07:36.119
It's as you said, it's a
big audience now and like people are

753
01:07:36.320 --> 01:07:44.159
super cool on YouTube and like they're
researching like stuff that people say that it's

754
01:07:44.320 --> 01:07:46.239
it's getting wild, but it's very
cool. I just don't know where to

755
01:07:46.280 --> 01:07:49.519
go see one. I know where
to go find the South qualch they are

756
01:07:50.119 --> 01:07:56.119
where they hang out is findable.
Whether or not you see one is it's

757
01:07:56.239 --> 01:08:00.239
not likely or you'll see one,
but I tell you you put your self

758
01:08:00.280 --> 01:08:02.440
out there and you start poking around
their areas like I have up north.

759
01:08:02.800 --> 01:08:05.519
They know where I camp and that's
where I get most of my action.

760
01:08:05.920 --> 01:08:10.199
I'll go in the daytime and I'll
drop my recorders. I'll poke around their

761
01:08:10.239 --> 01:08:15.280
areas, but at nighttime they come, they come to me. Yeah,

762
01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:19.359
James, thank you so much again
for hanging out. This has been great.

763
01:08:19.520 --> 01:08:24.840
I hope some interesting things come out
of this episode. Again, if

764
01:08:24.920 --> 01:08:29.159
you've got encounters or things that this
episode reminds you of, put them in

765
01:08:29.239 --> 01:08:34.079
the comments please those that listen on
YouTube. But thank you so much for

766
01:08:34.199 --> 01:08:38.000
coming on. James. Thank you, sir, Thank your audience. Peace

767
01:08:38.079 --> 01:08:42.760
be with you all here at Bigfoot
Society. Article is to provide a platform

768
01:08:42.920 --> 01:08:47.520
for those that have encountered Bigfoot to
share their encounter in a safe and respected

769
01:08:47.680 --> 01:08:53.399
environment. But we need to hear
your story. If you've experienced something that

770
01:08:53.520 --> 01:09:00.000
you just can't explain, please send
me an email at Bigfoot Society at gmail

771
01:09:00.239 --> 01:09:03.119
dot com. Then we can start
the conversation. And I know a lot

772
01:09:03.199 --> 01:09:10.680
of you have not shared your encounter
at all. It's been twenty years and

773
01:09:10.840 --> 01:09:14.560
it's time that you get this off
your chest and then you can get some

774
01:09:14.720 --> 01:09:18.279
well deserved for rest, because I
know you haven't been sleeping. I understand

775
01:09:18.359 --> 01:09:21.520
what you're going through, and I
appreciate every one of you listening