Bigfoot Mountain | Kentucky

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0:40 You've got the privilege of talking to mister Don Neil today and you might know him in the community by his nickname Biggiefoot. But don welcome to the show today. How's it going. It's doing wonderful. A little horse, but I'm doing good. Thank you awesome. Yeah, we were just talking and I'm getting over some stuff myself. I'm sure half the listeners are as well. It's going around the US. But you know, you've got You've got a really cool bio you provided, and we don't really get amazing bio. I was like this, I just want to mention it to this side. But you've got some really cool things that you have in your past besides Bigfoot. You were your licensed minister pastor fifty three years. You're an honorary Kentucky colonel, which is awesome.

1:26 You've got the presidential flags and wings lapel pin from Colin Powell under George W. Bush, which is awesome, awesome, and of course you've been officially researching Bigfoot since two thousand and seven, so almost twenty years, which is incredible. So but you know, I would love to start, you know where I usually start when I'm talking to individuals that have been in the community for such a long time. That was there a certain. Event or a thing that brought you into bigfooting to begin with. Yes, sir, absolutely, and well, like most people got as a child, I was interested who was bigfoot? You know, extraterrescular anything like that was just amazing to our little minds, you know. So I remember watching In Search of in many different programs, so I'm old enough to remember when the Patterson gimlet film came out and it was released, and what made it different than everything else. I thought, Oh, no, this thing that's supposed to be, you know, science fiction, is it's possibly really true. And that just picked my interest inized zeroed in on Bigfoot probably at the age of the thirteen, so that it would have been somewhere around sixty seven sixty eight. So I've always had that interest.

2:44 But I can't say I was a researcher. But I started preaching at the age of seventeen years old. Awful gong. But I started out seventeen years old to damn seventy, so fifty three years. But I began traveling thirty eight states in the United States, in Canada and Mexico. I've traveled quite a bit. Been blessed to be able to preach, and so of course when I'm preaching evangelizing, I'm preaching at nighttime, so my days are free, and so I love going around meeting people, and I would ask I wasn't saying it all. I'm a minister of the gospel, but you know, I'm also interested. I left my minds open to a lot of things, and so I would ask people in the communities, you know, you ever have anything unusual going on? I've heard paranormal stories, you know, and I've heard different things, but it seemed like I would always run into Bigfoot stories. And for an example, I was preaching in Upper New York and got to speak to some walkers and I said, you know anything weird?

3:38 You see some weird things that we're in these woods? And they say, oh, yeah, we see Bigfoot tracks all the time. I would love to say I was a researcher then, and I should have been taking notes and I should have had a recorder. But again, I'm a full time minister. This is just something. I'm one of them things, bigfoot researchers. Eight. I'm an armchair researcher, you know. I do it on my spare time. I have a career, I have a calling in my life with the ministry. But I sure was interested in Bigfoot, but all the stories I should have written down. Then I found myself preaching in Florida by the Old Cali National Forest, and one day while I was out observing the forest, I run into a park ranger and so I was talking to him, and of course I go, hey, you ever see anything unusual when we're down here, and he said, yeah, you know, we have bigfoots around here. And he began tell me about sightings they have and how many of the park rangers cannot talk about it. They're not allowed to talk about it. And again I hear me said one hundred times, I wish why didn't I write these things down? So over the years, since the age of thirteen, I've been and seventeen years old when I started the ministry, I've been kind of doing the research. Then I began to preach to the American Indians out west in New Mexico and Oklahoma and Arizona. And I got to go on the Indian reservations and stay for a week at a time, and and you have to be welcomed by the Indian sees if you're there doing business, they call it. You know, I'm going to be in the community, receiving and all three from the Indians, and we're gonna minister the Indians.

5:01 So I have to be otayed for entrance, had to be there, and of course their offerings was I had many revivals on the Indian reservations where they brought us live chickens and corate it fry bread, they called it, and we would receive that and the next day we'd feed that food to the homeless Indians and the hungry people there in the community. We didn't keep any of it. So in meeting the Indian cheese, you know, I got to know them and I'd say, hey, you know, I'm Cherokee Indian. My family's Cherokee Indian and always have loved that. I'd say, tell me some unusual stories. I'm just interested in the well they tell me about the tall Man. I mean, I'm talking about over years of time, different chiefs of the Vatchee tribe and the Cherokee and the Chipplewaw, not all at one time, and that even makes it better to be I love when these things are spontaneous.

5:48 But they say, oh, yeah, the big Man of the mountains or the hairy Man of the woods, or you know, and I'd see that and they would des grab this six to seven foot tall, hair covered creature that walked up right like the main And so I kept going man everywhere I go, you know. And so I got the ministry to cowboys. Back in the seventies out in far West Texas, there were literally cowboys who literally stayed on the range on the trail six and seven days at a time. They stay in cabins out of the remote areagause they were running the fence wire and stuff. And got to talking to them. You know, they tell me about wolves that they had sought or killed her some big bear story, you know, different places I was at Montana, Wyoming anyway, would always come back to a bigfoot, and it's like you would just follow me everywhere I went.

6:34 And so I was always interested. So I settled down and started the church that I now passedor I started my own church and the little organization that I'm here to Kentucky where I'm from. And so in two thousand, so around two thousand and seven, I heard about the BFRO and Bigfoot. Then I thought, well, I want to go to one of the one of their expeditions. And I went to the expedition and met Harold ben E that you was speaking to you recently. And I went to one of their BFR expeditions in the y Shawnee National Forest around the Garden of the Gods. And that's when I heard my littal first bigfoot return. How somebody made a hell and this bigfoot return The holl And made the hairs, and I was hopelessly hooked. But one major thing I left out because I sure get to talk.

7:21 It is what literally pushed me into the world of Bigfoot is when a young man, but when I was seventeen, started the ministry. Every year I was in a large organization or church organization. Once a year we would meet in Louisville, Kentucky. Ministers from all the fifty states that would meet, and we'd have a week long convention, and then that week we'd have a big dinner and all the ministry. I'd meet ministers from you know, Washington State, and from California and from Florida, and we'd all get together people I didn't usually get to meet. Now, imagine all these ministers were wearing suits and ties and three piece suits. And there was this one cool preaching so cool. He preached on the Indian reservation. I believe he was in Wyoming in that area, and he was married to the Indian woman. And this guy would come to these conventions wearing buckskin jacket and blue jeans and cowboy boots and the cowboy hat. And he was like twenty Eastwood to me. You know, I'm eighteen nineteen year old ministry man.

8:18 This guy's so cool. I won't give his name, but he was just the coolest guy. He didn't care to dress in the suits and the eyes. He wore his clothes and he would minister to the Indians. And so I got to know this man. And one of the conventions I got to sit at the table eight or ten ministers that he was one of them. Well, I made sure and get a seat just as close to him as I could, and I wanted to just talk to him because he was, like I said, a modern day cowboy. And I come to find out the story was he would literally preach to the Indians on Sunday and then he load up his pack neils with his team on Monday and go out into the mountains. That he would hunt for the different wild animals and keep their pelts and sold their hides, and he lived off the lanand and he'd come back on the weekends bar in this local community he preached to the Indians. Well, I'm just hopelessly hooked. This guy's like my hero, you know, I'm just so amazed. So well, we're sitting there talking nonchalamp and I said to his name was Johnny, And I said, Johnny, I know you've stinking bears and helps, and you've had a lot of unusual situations. That he got lost one time, and it was out in the woods a couple of days, you know, lost till he found his way back where he was supposed to be.

9:24 And he was an expert marksman. And you stop if I go too long here, And he was just he was He was a man's man. He was a modern day cowboy, and he just so matter of factually said, well, the weirdest thing I ever saw was a big foot. And I go what he said, Yes, Well, all the table gets quiet, all the ministers and everybody's looking like this guy can't be serious. And I said, please tell me more. And he told me the most amazing story. I'll never forget it. That he was out hunting and he had found a place on a little mesa that was high above it, raised up several hundred feet, and he had found a place on rocks. Side of this, may say he could settle it into the rocks and he could rest his gun for a good holding battery to sight it on the animals he was shooting. He'd been there three or four days and got several animals.

10:10 He'd go down and get them, bring them back up to work where he was at that higher elevation, you know, skim them clean. He'd eat their meat. That was his food while he was there. And he said, I'm not going to leave this spot. I'm in a good spot. So it's overlooking a valley. There's about a four hundred yard field of clearing down there. It's some kind of weed or grass that the animals kept eating. And he went down there and got settled to this rocky spot on this rock cliff, and he settled in for the got his canteen, and he said, the early morning, this sun up, he said, I seen something in my brief real vision walk out into this field. And he said, the first thing I noticed, it's walking upright like a man. And he said, what in the world can this be? And he said real steel. He said, there's no way I could be seen. This is important to the story.

10:53 He said, I'm cama flugged. I'm setting in these rocks. There's no way I could be seen. I'm thir four hundred feet high looking down at this field. And this thing comes walking swinging its arms. Seven to eight foot tall, solid black from head to toe and swinging its arms extremely luck with the extreme swinging motion. And it stops in the center of this field and that reaches down and starts grabbing these these weeds and pulling them up, and it's eating the roots. He can see the dirt plumps on the on the wall of these weeds, and whatever it was, this creature was eating them. So he thought it's not a man, but he at the time wasn't sure what it was. So this expert marksman and he's got this big gun something you know, I don't know that. He was telling the gun it was powerful enough to bring down bears or any big creature, moose or anything. And he's got a super scope and he raises it up and puts it on his creature, and he says, this thing's got two arms and two legs, gigantic feet. You can barely see them in the grass, but he sees his feet when it's walking. And he said, this thing's neck goes right into its shoulders. This is this is my first experienceial fate, live eye witness. And I'm sitting there, Fick say that I can't I'm not even breathing. I think I'm just so listening to what he's saying. And he said, so I raised my scope up, and I'm thinking, do I shoot this thing or not?

12:08 And he said, I believe that with the power of scope I had in the power gun, I could kill this thing. But he said, as I raised the scope up and got it to its face, he said, I let my finger off the trigger because he said, I was looking into the face of a human looking creature. He said that the rest of it looked like gorilla, the rest of it looked like animal, but its face was human. And he said, I let go of the trigger and thought, there's no way I can kill this thing. Impossible. And he said, then it did the most amazing thing. Well, I'm thinking, first of all, you're telling me you've seen a bigfoot. What can be more amazing than that? And he said, I'm sure I'm hidden in these rocks. I know I can't be seen, and I've got it right in the scope. And he said that creature stopped chew him, stopped doing what he was doing, and turned to look straight up at me, like it was looking straight through me.

12:58 At that scope, he said, and I thought, there's no way it could see me. He said, it dropped that grass and turned and at a walking pace which was equal to him running, and women left out of that field. That was gone. And I'm just I'm run it for the rest of my life because that just blew me away. That was just amazing. So add that to the rest of the story. So I go through all the years and I'm you know, asking people about Bigfoot, and I read all these stories. So in two thousand and seven, back to modern times, I go to the kb I mean the BFR O expedition in Garden of the Goths. I meet Harold Biddy, I hear my first return how and the second night we got return Knox, and that's when I thought, I'm going to become a researcher again.

13:40 I can't do it full time. I don't get to do it, you know, all the time, but I do it as much as I can. And I've been very blessed. I believe God has blessed me that I get to be involved in a lot of these expeditions. And I started doing several expeditions with the BFR. Then I found my problem was I don't have a lot of free time I'm a full time minister of Bangelist pastor of my own church, kind of family to raise. So I thought, I need to bigfoot in Kentucky. I can't keep going to Illinois. I've been to Illinois a while, Tennessee, you know ill of this's elmals are Indiana. But I can't keep going, you know, three or four day expeditions. I've got to be home every Sunday. That's my busiest workday of the week. So I found a group called the KBrO the Kentucky Bigfoot Research Organization, which is led by mister Charlie Raymond. And I contacted him and told him what I was interested in, and I'd been to some DFR expeditions and he was so kind, he was so free.

14:35 I can't speak well enough about him. He said, sure, come and go with us on an expedition. And I got to meet him and we began talking that was very long. He said, would you like to be invited to be in the research and investigator for the KBrO O and you can take care of the western Kentucky portion of the state for me? And I just could not believe he offered me. I was so honored and so I've been doing that since around two thousand and seven or eight, somewhere a long that line, and that's when I got my first flear camera. I went and got a thermal camera and got into it and began to interview people. So I like to tell people that right off the bat, I myself have never actually seen a bigfoot, and a lot of people don't.

15:15 Like that big for society will be right back after these messages. If you haven't seen one, you know you're not part of that end group. But what I like to tell people is that I have experienced, I feel like everything that you can experience in the world of bigfoot research, with the exception of having a visual daytime sighting. I have had hits on my thermal camera that I am ninety percent sure is bigfoot. I've had them howl and scream and whistle and grunt. I've heard their jibbering and talk.

16:00 I've seen their eyes shine at night being surrounded by more than one on several occasions, I've had them push down trees near me and hear them run off by pedal steps. I found their footprints which my wife and I have found their scat and over time I fought back on it, and I believe since when I was a young man until now, which I now record all of my interviews with eyewitnesses, I've interviewed around one hundred people, a little over one hundred eyewitnesses from all walks of life. And the eyewitnesses are why I really believe in Bigfoot. Not the house I've heard, not the footbridge I found, not even the scat we found, but the eyewitnesses. And I'm believe in people. I loved people. I studied a little in psychology before I became a ministering in my high school. That was some of my studies with psychology.

16:48 I love speaking to people, studying people, and watching people. So I love to interview people, these eyewitnesses and I'm going into another part of my store. You stopped me at any time, But when I got to meeting people, of course, there's always there's liars. You know, there's people that were drunk, and there's people that were on drugs. You have to weed that out. But I'm pretty good over this amount of time, seventeen years now of reading a witness out and when you talked to I got one story I'll tell if you're interested later, but I'm tell him my Bubba story. I spoke to a young man from eastern Kentucky. He was country to the core. He was a true hillbilly. You know, you're talking about a man six foot four or three hundred pounds. And he tells me a story of his big foot slide, and and he tells me that he went himself and the man standing there shaking in tears in his eyes.

17:38 I believe that man, that man saw something. And I guess I wad and tell a story. Don't let me go on too long, you got it. But this man's in eastern Kentucky. Okay, in Kentucky. People. I love Kentucky. I'm a lifelong Kentucky So anything I say, I'm not belittling anyone. I'm not being condescended. I'm telling them that as it is. In eastern Kentucky. Those are a different group of people. They're very seclusive. They're very secluded people. They keeak to theirself. It is the hardest time I've ever had getting witnesses to talk is in far eastern Kentucky, Harland County and places like that. Listen, they just don't talk to strangers. And I had to go down there. For twenty years, I've been going fuller riding in the mountains of eastern Kentucky two and three times a year, so I've been thirty six or thirty eight times, and it took me almost that long to get Some of them struck telling you their bigfoot stories. Some of them that used to laugh at me. Now when I go, they say, hey, preacher, we got to new big foot sighting want to tell you about. So they open up. Finally, I'm not a stranger anymore. I loved it. When I first went out there to the mountains, they caught me a flat lander because I live in western Kentucky where there's not as many hills and mountains. But to my Bubba story, I had heard this young man that had a sighting, and they said, you know, he's a heck of a man. He's a monster of a fella. So I go to meet this man, as Mama calls him in the house. This is so funny. I'm five toot eight, I weighed by two eighty. But this guy comes in on.

19:03 She said, Bob, come in here and talk to this man about your bigfoot sighting. And this guy locks in the door and he almost has a duck to come in the door. I mean, I can't tell you what a monster from a man. I tell people. His neck was big around at the top of my leg. He had on bidding overalls and I don't know if you had anything else on hunder and he was just gigantic. He shook my hand and his hand just my hand was lost in his hand, and he pointed his finger. When I tell this story at presentations, I acted out that I'm sitting here looking up. I'm looking up at this fella, and he looks down. He puts his finger right in my face. He said, Preacher, I'm gonna tell you my story, but you better not laugh at me. And I said, no, sir, I'm not gonna laugh at you.

19:45 There's no way. And so he could begins with the story. And he's got a hunting spot that his grandfather had left him and he sold these and I'll get lost in law of the words, but Clover and ry and they sold these seals that the bucks will come and it makes their ambers grow bigger and they get these big old bucks. So he said, I've got a hunting spot. And he said, if I found somebody hunting on my property. I'd whoop them, he said if I didn't shoot them. And I believe every word he's in it. And he wasn't being mean. That's just country, and he said, nobody hunting my spot. So his story was he was up in the tree stand and he'd been there since early morning, before daylight, and it starts getting daylight. Here something come crashing through the woods, just making an unbelievable sound, and he thinks, well, this has got to be the biggest deer you know, said, I've never heard one sound like this.

20:33 So he stands up in his stand, just a monster a man. He's got a thirty odd six. I'll never forget that, got a scope on it. That's a big gun. And he said, I'm ready for this buck to come out, and I'm going to take me a prize buck. And he said, all of a sudden, now this deep dark brush outsteps this deep foot tall, hair covered creature looks like it's black and maybe a little brownish to it. And his standing there, Smith sniff in the air and looking around, he said, and I freeze the meat. And my first thought is is this gun enough to take this thing down? He starts doubting the power of his thirty odd to six, and he said the same thing. He raised the scope and looked at it, and he said, man, if it didn't look like a human being in the face.

21:14 And he said, at that time, the thing turned and looked at me, and he said, I put the gun down, and he's looking at me. He said, h preacherd I wh myself. I've learned through the years, Jeremia. People will lie. But most of the time, people will lie to make theirselves look better. In's a situation. You know, it's just human trait. We will lie to make ourselves look better, will hy perbule, you know, to enhance a story, but usually not to degrade ourselves. When this boy is spending our six foot three or four three hundred pounds are bigger, it just looks like a monster a man. He says, he weted himself. That man's east tears are going down his face, down his note. This guy's telling me the truth. Why would he tell me you wet himself? And I know this man had an experience. This guy saw something stepped out in which it turned after it smelled the an He said, I believe it smelled me there and it turned and walked off, and he said, I come out of the woods, and I'll never hunt there ever again.

22:06 Now he gave up his favorite hunting spot. He would have whooked any man that he saw him there, and I believe he would have. So I believe in Dickfoot because of the amount of witnesses I've spoken to, and I guess I'll go along this line. Now. You know I tell people this and why I do my presentation. I'm a non denominational preacher, but I'm in the Pentecostal background. It's not of a lively church. You know we did with the program you won't go to sleep in our church. So but one thing I know about a pentecost to the holiness people we call them here in Kentucky. Now, these are people. I mean, they don't go to movie theaters. They're still like back in the twenties or thirty These people don't. They don't say a heck are durned because that's cuss words to them. They live a very strict life according to how they see the Bible. I'm not knocking them, I'm explaining and I respect them because they believe what they believe wholeheartedly and they're just you know, a few steps from being Amish and her and the way they live, and they're country people. And I say that to say this, if they tell you a story, you could write it in stone. And I remember interviewing an elderly lady. She was up in her eighties. She was a Pentecostal holding this lady and she won't say shoot or durn, that's cussworth And they share it on lie.

23:19 They think the devil gonna come out of the ground and grab them and get a hold of them. So I was interviewing her and she was in her kitchen window, and this is far easter Kentucky, and she looked out in her garden and she said, this haint. I'll never forget it. She said, this big old haint come walking out of the woods. Now I slipped up and found out that a lot of old timers here in Kentucky had called spirits or ghost they'll calling my hat or something. They can't explain, something that's scary to them. She said, this haint come walking out of the woods and started picking my vegetables up out of my garden and eating them. She said, I said, what did you do? And country people are so cool. They don't get scared like some of us do. She said, I started hitting on that kitchen window and said, you get out of my garden.

24:01 Usually quit eating my food. And she said it looked at me, and it turned around and walked off. And you know that talking to this woman that is not going to lie to me, I mean she feels her religion is this day. People may make fun of that, but I believe witnesses when they're like these people that have no reason to lie, that are not going to lie, and certainly degrade theirself or till a lie when she thinks, you know, it's going to be her salvation at stake. And so I begin to believe in Bigfoot mostly because of the witnesses. Now again, I've heard the house, I've seen the eyes shine. I went out one time by myself two o'clock in the morning in Ohio County, Kentucky, which is the next county from where I live, had a forty four magnum on my side. I carry that more for not just for a bigfoot. I'm not. I don't aim to kill a bigfoot, but in my years of research, I walked upon a marijuana patch one time at night, and there was a man with a loaded, high powered rifle there and that scared me pretty good.

24:55 And I knew I was reading to fix because he was watching this cropsy and enough to know that. And he said, what are you doing out here? And I said, fellow, I'm going to tell you that you're not gonna believe me. I said, I'm a preacher and I'm out here looking for Bigfoot. And thank god, he started laughing and he said, well, I think that's crazy. He said, but you don't need to be here. And I said, yester, and if you'll give me time, I'll be gone from here. And he said, you turn and go back that direction, and so you know I was. I was scared for my life and I turned around and left and saw. And another time, not too many years ago, I came in in another county and walked up on a meth lab and I knew immediately when I saw the coolers, the luminium pull the batteries, and I pulled my gun out and back my way out of there, and I thought, boy, I've walked into the wrong situation. I did call the state police, and they did come and say that it was a had been a working lab, but it had been abandoned recently, or I would have been in big trouble. So I carry a gun for those raison of snakes and tioties and any kind of problem like that. So I'm sitting at the foot of a big tree. It's two o'clock in the morning. I'm telling a lot of stories here, Dremie, but you just tell me when. But I'm sitting there with my gun. I've got my back to a tree.

26:06 I got my audio recorder shut out, and I couldn't find nobody to go with me. And I've been there about an hour, and all of a sudden, just in the steal of the night, this big tree behind me. I hear it start cracking and it just falled boom, stakes the ground and it hits not too far right behind this tree. I'm sitting that and I just freeze, my blood runs cold. And I hear these steps start walking away boom boom boom, boom boom, And I knew immediately what would happen this bigfoot that pushed this tree down. And you can hear it stepping, just pounding as I walking off. And I did the strangest thing. I tell this to people I can't believe it to this day telling you this story. I stood up, I walked to my truck about one hundred yards away, and I come home.

26:52 I left my audio recorders, I left everything there. Come and about halfway home, I'm thinking, Hey, that's what I was out there for. That's why I went to hear what am I doing? But they called that the fear of fight or flight. That literally hit me. And I ain't saying I was unconscious, but I knew to get in that truck and leave, and I was. I didn't hear that creature approach me. I was sitting there in the ditch songs. I don't know how it got up to you like that, and it pushed that big tree down, and it was walking away, and it made me go to the truck and leave. I went back the next day and got all the audio recorders, which were not by me that I had stead them in other places. But I believe in Bigfoot for all those things and the hoops in the house. But I guess the point I'm making. I believe because of all the weaknesses I spoke to absolutely.

27:41 I mean, I'm right there with you once I started taking reports. Actually just this summer out in Oregon. Like face to face, it becomes very very real in a different way to you. For sure. And I love your background having that, you know, being a preacher since age seventeen, so you have probably a very unique way of looking at things over the years. Have you come to a realization about what you think Bigfoot is? Or is that something still up in the air for you? Isn't that the sixty four thousand dollars question? When I first got into the research, I never thought about what it was. When I was the minister traveling getting these stories. Again, I wish i'd wrote them down. I could write a book, but again, my life is the ministry and that's my calling, is what I do, and I was just asking questions on the side. But since two thousand and seven, now say we record every interview, we write down notes at the KBrO Miik Entucky Book Foot Research Cooranization. We look at one of the groups that record our eyewitnesses, we videotape them and play their video of their siting. It seems like everybody really loves that. But I thought it first when I got into it in two thousand and seven, it was an as yet undiscovered North American bipedal ape of some kind, and I went into the Gigantopithecus offspring deal, but I wasn't into it probably six months and after I interviewed. I like to say from a professional nobody's a professional, but being the actual researcher and taking those

29:12 recording as I talked to people, that left me quickly. They're so human looking. I just loved when the people say, and I'll tell some stories in a minute. And these people in my part of Kentucky they call it a gorilla. These people. I love reports from people that don't know what bigfoot is. I love that they're not throne to make it a big foot. They're not looking for a bigfoot. So the first thing out of the amount is gorilla because of its shape and covered in hair. But I thought it was a North bery codp late. Now I do not think it, but I still have not come to the conclusion of what I think it is. Now I'm in studied in the Bible. I've studied in the Greek and the Hebrew, and I've been blessed to study under Bible scholars who believe in the Arabic Hebrew and teach the Arabic Hebrew of the Bible. The first five books of the Bible written by Moses was written in Arabic Hebrew, and there's many secrets hidden in that. So I know about the ne them who were on the earth there in the Antidiluvian age, the fallen Angels. I haven't connected them to that.

30:06 There's a lot of researchers that do big for society will be right back after these messages. I don't want to be offensive to anybody anywhere. They have their belief I have mine. I don't know exactly yet where I place a big foot, but I tell people this, I don't know what it is, but I know who created it. There's not a creature living on this planet that God, the Creator did not create. Yahovah created them, and so they're created. I don't know what their purpose is, and a lot of people this is probably something I shouldn't approach. I'm living in a day where the big foot world from when I started in two thousand and seven is slowly moving over to the paranormal, the spirit paranormal, supernatural side of it. I'm reluctant to go there and let me tell you this. You might find this interesting. I believe in the supernatural realm. I call it the spiritual realm. I believe in that morning I believe in Bigfoot. As a minister, I don't know how far to go with you. I'm an open nine ad minister. I've seen UFOs. I have seen unexplained lights in the woods, but I don't connect that to Bigfoot.

31:23 I have had supernatural people use that term. I don't like a paranormal. I use spiritual. I have seen demonic entities that show themselves. I have had people call them exorcism. I have cast demons other people in a church surrounding a person who was having problems with demons. I've been there. And you can watch these TV shows and they make it look pretty good that Sunday School material compared to what it's really like in real life. So I believe in that, and I believe in that. I believe in exterrestrial life, and I believe I can find that in my Bible. I believe that we're not the only creation. We're the sheep that went astray of the ninety nine. But anyway to go there, I'm not conducted to Nephlin. But whatever it is, my God created it. And I don't believe I'll be harmed by them. But I also don't believe they're spirits. But anyway, I don't know what they are, Jeremiah, but I know that God created them.

32:13 I'm still trying to figure out what they are. And a lot of people get onto me and say, you're a preacher, you know, get here looking for spirits, And I said, well, I don't think I'm looking for spirits right now. Spirit spirits, as far as I'm concerned, don't pot. They don't have urinate, they don't have to have food to eat, they don't have to leave hand prigans, they don't have to leave their hair on a fence wire. If they're spirits, if they can pop out of a tree or and I won't make people upset, and I don't mean to, but you know, I listen to everybody's theories, and I've always respect people. But I said, a lot of times they don't give respect back. I don't If they can pop out of a tree or pop out of an inner dimensional wall, then they wouldn't be we would be seeing them, and they could sure stay away from us. But that's me for right now. For it's some kind of flesh and blood creature who has some unbelievable traits about them. Listen, people said, well, I've seen one that disappeared. Well, I've seen the deer in the woods. I've been a deer hunter for many years, and I've seen a big point buck deer I'll never forget walking to my stand and I thought, you come up behind that tree, buddy in your busted. I got you. I watched you walk in here a couple hundred yards. He stepped behind that tree and he'd never come out, and he never left.

33:18 And I come out of the tree standing. Don't see the deer. Now, I can say he disappeared, or I can say that that buck was smarter than me. He may have gone down and crawled. I've seen deer get down and crawl up under falling trees to get away from a hundred I had one buck deer one time come to me. I know I'm speaking at random here, not I remember watching one buck deer back in about two thousand maybe two thousand and one, and I watched you come out of the field into the woods I was in and come straight towards my stand. And when he got I still a little too far to shoot. He stops still there, and I watched that buck deer. He did not turn around. He began to walk backwards, just like he was putting his foot back in the Thame track. And he backed all the way out of the woods into that field and then turned took off running.

34:01 So what I'm trying to say is people say they disappear, it may look like they disappear, And in our presentations at the KBrO, I say this, I believe they are smarter. Now explain, I believe they're smarter than we are. Now. They can't operate a phone and they can't be on a computer, but when they've lived, their whole existence is to be in the woods and stay hidden so much that a lot of people don't even believe they exists. They believe it's a fairy tale. A lot of people laugh at you, though it's not as bad as it used to be. I'm telling you we're living a whole different world today than in two thousand and seven to eight, when people would look at you funny and walk away when you mention your bigfoot. And now everywhere I go, I mean I don't care to ment your bigfoot. I wear bigfoot shirts and bigfoot hats, and I do that to get people to talk, and people will turn out and say, hey, you believe in bigfoot. I say absolutely.

34:48 They said, let me tell you when I saw one, and they're open now telling about it. So it's a different world. Indeeded just seventeen years ago. But they're smarter than us in the woods. Their whole imagine, their whole existence since the days the American Indians were here in the Americas and white men hadn't came yet. Their whole existence is not to be seen. And I believe we see them. They mean for us to see them. I don't believe we see them by accident, very very often. But people say, well, they could disappear, they quit leaving tracks. I believe there's an explanation. I believe you could send green Beray Army rangers and Navy seals out into the woods and they're not going to find a big foot because we've stepped into their territory. They've had their whole lifetime to perfect being stealth and staying away from us, and you're not going to walk in the woods and find one. And so anyway, I went a long way around that. But now I believe in a lot of things.

35:41 I'm not closed mind that. I've had a lot of supernatural experiences I could share with you. And I believe in spirits, and I believe in the spiritual realm, and I believe in extraterrestrial life. And I've seen lights in the woods when i've been out big footed, and I've seen UFOs. Well, I've been big footing, But I don't put the big foot in the spaceship. I happen to be out at night, and I find this with a lot of city people. You know, we don't usually spend our time out in the woods at night time. We're home at our comfortable heating houses, laying in our comfortable beds. If you look get out and go in the woods at nighttime, you're going to see some pretty amazing things. I have taken people from Louisville, Kentucky, in big city and taking them out bigfooting, and we're sitting there in our lawn chairs in the pitch black dark of night, and then look in the sky and say, oh my god, what's that? And I said, what the lights? I said that satellites? He said, you can see satellites. I said, now, if you get out of Louisville. If you get out of city and get out in the country, you'll see some pretty amazing things. So I've seen, I said, the orbans they called, I've seen orbans going through the woods.

36:42 I've seen a little rod of light. You'll go through the woods. I just didn't connected to bigfoot. Other people are welcome through if they do. I think I happened to be in the woods at night, and I have to be seeing things that people don't see because they don't go out in the woods at night like they should. But I don't related to bigfoot. Now I'm open nine and if I ever see a spaceship land and a big foot walks out of it, that I'm sold. I'm convenienced. Yeah, it's just it's such a weird thing. And the thing that I've started to notice and the reports that I take, is that it's like you have these individuals that have some sort of interaction or they have a sighting or some sort of close encounter with a bigfoot, and then they get home and weird stuff starts to happen. And I'm not sure how to explain that, because, yeah, on the one hand, you've got you know, like something making tracks, but like what else.

37:38 Is going on? I don't know if we really know. You don't want to hear my theory on that. I don't believe. I want you show to be a success. But I do have a theory on that ahead. And of course my theory comes from a viewpoint of a minister. I'm coming from the viewpoint of the Christian and a minister. And I don't put my religion. I don't care about around deep people over the head. I believe in living the Christian life. I believe my life should be the only Bible people have to read and see that. I'm being real and sincere. But I personally believe, and I hear these stands, and what one of your listeners to be offended, I to offend anybody again, I will say, I listen there. I've talked to people. I've been in conferences with speakers who said they came from spaceships. Another speaker said they were a time traveler, and I respected him.

38:19 I said, well, that's good. I see your theory. That's wonderful. But when I give my theory, they just want to cut that off, you know, And I said, okay, I'm used to that it's okay. But if somebody's my personal opinion, my personal opinion, if somebody's in a woods and see the bigfoot creature and they lived three or four hundred miles away, and they go home and the next night is standing to fool their dead that there's not a bigfoot. That's a demonic entity. That's a spirit. If you see a creature step out of a portal and walk home, look at you, or starts telling you your secret life and giving you secrets that nobody else could know but a fortune deller, or some people say that they've talked to them and they healed their body of kidneys. Doughter Tembers. My opinion as a Christian as a ministry is that's a spirit. And the reason somebody said, well, how could that be connected? We're so into bigfooting and it eats you a big food. I'll take your time, will you can get so involved. I know people that's got into it and everything they buys big foot, and everything they eat is big footed, and they live and they can't go out enough ninth week and that's wonderful. But when you get into something like that, your spirit and soul, your mind gets so open that. I believe these demonic entities they look for at opening. They'll come if they're invited, and what better way than to come looking like a big food boy. I can hear people screaming now, and you've welcome, you open up, you're open to that idea.

39:37 And so here's the spirit. If I see something four hundred miles away and come home and say to the foot of my bed, I'm gonna get up and start with duke and the devil in Jesus thing, Now that's me. People could lie, that's me. That's how I see it until I'm convinced otherwise. But the only person I know that could he only creature I know that could heal me is the Lord God. And know I'm devout Christian soul. I'm gonna give all the credit to God. But I'm not gonna let something speak to me or tell me, uh you know, my pastor read me my children's names. So when people have that, I respect they had. I believe they had that experience. I believe that, but I just in my mind think we're dealing with the demonic experience. Hmm. That's that is so interesting. It is really interesting because a lot of these people that have these situations like the only way that they can get out of it is well most of them is to rebuke using the name of Jesus.

40:27 And it's like, well, okay, you know. Isn't it true. I've heard so many stories of that there's you know, there's something to it. And I'll tell people this, you know, if it is, if I find out Bigfoot is, if you allow me to go this direction for a moment, if I ever found that big food is a spiritual creature, supernatural, paranormal again, I call it spiritual DEMONI my days of Bigfoot in an over instantly. I'll sell my thermal camera and all my listening devices and all the things accumulated because the Bible tells me. I feel as a Christian that I'm not to go look you for evil spirits. I have power and authority over any evil spirits. Syah. I believe that people call me fanatic. I believe that the Bible says that man was give a dominion over all the creatures of the field and the animals are there, we are the dominant specie.

41:13 And as a Christian, I have no fear of any spirit, devil or demon, but I'm also not supposed to go out and give them the stupid challenges. There's an amazing story in the Bible, if I'm allowed to share it. There was a man named Skiva, and he has seven sons, and the story is told called the Seven Sons of Skiva. It's in the Bible New Testament, and I believe the New Testament. Let me check myself there and the New Testament. And they were following the apostle Paul, who's one of the greatest of all the apostles. And they would see Paul heal, pray for people, and they be healed of different diseases. The one thing Paul did a lot, though, He cast demons and devils out of people, and they would manifest them. Demons would come out and come out of that person screaming and hollering. So these seven Sons of Skiva, they really I say, they really would in church goers. They were just spectators and they loved to watch the show, if you will, They loved to watch Paul was the big hit. You know, it was a circus come to town. So these seven sons of Stepha said, let's do what Paul does. So the Bible said they wouldn't found them a demon possessed person. And they came up to him and laid hands on him and said, in the name of Jesus, whom Paul preaches about, come out, you demon. And the demon said to them, Jesus I know, and Paul, I know, but who are you? And the Bible says that demon, come out that man. They whooped, all seven of them, poured their clothes off, and they went running down the road. So that story basically says that we are not to go looking. You know, if you if I run into a spirit again, I've been int your services are in into demonic field people. If

42:43 people want to believe that, that's time I've experienced it. And so you know, I have authority to pray that I'm not afraid of that demon. But if I'm going out and looking for a demon, said, hey, I challenge you to this contest, I'm gonna get my I'm gonna get my butt whooked because I'm not to do that. God's not to be made a mockery. It's not a challenge anyway. That's one of the theories I look at there. But I love the stories where people say I saw this bigfoot and got scared saying the name of Jesus go wain. It went away, and I'm going, don't you see, don't you see what he's dealing with. But that again, that's my theory, my thought. I don't want to be offensive to anybody. Do you think that the theory of mind speed could be somehow related then or.

43:24 I'm not past thinking that's possible. I don't inter sound this possible. I steam I've been with people on Bigfoot expeditions who were blasted who I was on one expedition with the BFRO and a man named Ron Bowls. He said, you may have had on show Rongbo's fantastic researcher. One of my first expeditions, Rongbos was the leader of our group. We were at standing Stone State Park, into the sea, here we go. He was in front of us, Yeah, and he was in front of our group walking and all of a sudden he just stopped. He stopped everybody And that's I can remember, and the Ron can correct me if I'm wrong, but he stopped right then. And I believe you know he's said everybody stopped. Everybody stopped, And for a minute, I can't say I don't know if he got dizzy, if he but he just said, I've been sound blasted. And we stopped the group at best.

44:08 I remember we backed out of that area for a little bit. But you know, he was a man's man. He's a big seller, and I believe him. But he will stop another thread of mine. This first name's John, the researcher, and he went with a female researcher to a place where there had been just recent sightings. And John was a very huge man. He was about four hundred pounds, but he could research. He could get out of the ridge and walk some. But they went to the place of a sighting. I believe it had happened just a day or two before. They got out of the vehicle and the lady and the walking towards the woods, and John just freezes and he says, I can't move. I can't move. And she said what he said, I believe I'm being blasted. I believe there's another term they used. But he stopped and he said, Donna. He told me, he said, don, I couldn't move. He said I wanted to go forward, but he said, I just a fear overwhelmed me not to go forward. And he said, I told her, I've got to go back to the car.

44:58 He said, as soon as he turned and didn't take two or three steps back to the car, it left him. So he stood there a minute, said give me a minute, and he called his breath. Big for a society who will be right back after these messages. I'm so sorry, I'm hoarse. I don't usually sound like this, and he I thought, well, let's go and go. Then he turned around and didn't get three steps back to where he was, and it stopped him again instantly, and he said, I was blasted with him for suit. He said, I absolutely believe, you know, go away from here, don't come in here. He said, I told her we're not going in the woods, and they laughed. So I believe that's very, very possible. You know, and mine speak. We're perceptive creatures. You know how many times I've heard somebody say, I feel like somebody's looking at me. I've had that experience in my life. You know, it's standing somewhere and I think I feel like somebody's looking at me. Turn around, there's somebody fixated looking at me. You know, we have that ability, We had that extra sensory perception. I believe that we're very we're spiritual. Well, I think about this, gear am I. We are a body, a soul in a spirit. According to the Bible, we have a body a soul in the spirit. We are two thirds a spiritual beating more than we are one third a natural beat. So, you know, I believe in the Bible. Somebody said, do you believe in the spiritual realm? I said, well, I believe in the Bible, and the Bible is probably seventy five percent spiritual. You know, I believe in Donkey's talk

46:29 that I actually had sloaded water turned wine. Man. Yeah, absolutely, I'm right there with you. I mean, people don't realize how much if you look, if you take some time to read through it again, I mean, just some wild stuff in there. Man, it's you know, absolutely, absolutely. Yeah, it's some. It's so awesome. I love it awesome. I want to go ahead. Well, I was going to ask you about a certain part, certain location area in Kentucky, just one that's come up a few times recently. Have you ever have you heard anything come out of Webster County, Kentucky. Several sightings I've heard from Winster County Kentucky and recently on one of your programs, and forgive my bad memory, I tell people I have halftimers. But you interviewed a young man from Wincester County and he was going to a certain coal mines area site. He had a name for it and was going there, and so I went to look at that up and not far from that in the area he's going to is a little community called Wheatcroft. And one of the first reports I got back in the two thousand and seven eight nine when I started researching Kentucky primarily was a story from an elderly lady. It was called the Wheatcroft Bottoms Monster. And I don't know if that young man knew that story or not, but amazing story. This lady was eighty nine years old. She lived in a little country home, after which by herself she hooked all the time. She was quite the baker, apparently apple pies and thekon pies, and she was quite a cook. She was famous for leaving

48:01 her screen door. You know, if she had only the screen door closed, her kitchen door would be open, her front living room door would be open. And people that would visit her house said, well, you could smell the apple pie. You could smell the com pie and the bridge. And people would go and visit her, and people would buy her pies and cakes and these breads from her, you know, and help her out. And one days she was telling the story, somebody went over there and her back screen door at the kitchen was ripped plumb off the hinges and laying in the guard And somebody asked what happened, and she said she was cooking apples, naked apples for apple pies. She had two or three sitting on the table. Of course, the smells going through the screen. She said, this big, old, tall, hairy monster walked up on my porch and grabbed that screen door, and she said, it just pulled it plumb off the hinges. It was after her pies. And she took a skill of the hot grease that was cooking, and she grabbed it and threw it on the creature, and it let out this unbelievable screen help my voice, jeesus, and she it turned around and run off her porch. And I love that they don't country. She wasn't scarce, she challenged, he wouldn't gonna take her Pyes, she threw that hot skulled and grease on him. And so they went and where I understand it, repaired her screen door. And the story got started at the wheat Cross Bottom monster and that's in Webster County.

49:14 Oh that's awesome. I'm gonna have to look that up see if there's anything on the internet about it. That is just a fascinating story. It's amazing, and it brings up another thing. I love how country people. Of all my interviews with all the people, I've just said this once. I love speaking to people who don't believe in bigfoot. I love it because they're not prone to make it a bigfoot. But I love these country people. This woman is eighty nine years old, lives by herself, and she didn't scream and run and hide in the corner. Her first thought was a grab that hot skill of the grease and throw it on that creature. Because I love the old woman who said it was a haint, I mean her idea is also it was a ghost or a spirit. I have a story here in Millerberg County, Kentucky, of a lady that had apple trees again in her backyard. This is right here in o'd Hoff County, not seven miles from where I'm sitting right now. And she lived by herself. She may have been in her nineties if I remember the story correctly. And she heard a noise at her back door in this creature something that had been stealing apples off for apple Tree. She looked out there in this creature is taking these apples and taking apples off for apple tree. She opens her visus Kentucky. Now a lot of city folks will understand. She opens her over with a twelve gates double Borough shotgun and unloads on it and it takes off, scream and it runs off into the woods. And she said, he's gonna quit stealing the apples.

50:32 That's so cool. I just love that they don't think they get afraid. How dare you take my apple from my apple pie? That's that's funny stuff. Oh my goodness, just as such a Kentucky's is one of those really interesting states when it comes to Big five, like Kentucky, Tennessee down there in the south. But have you ever done any research down in the land between the lakes area Recard? Absolutely, what a red hot area, what a fantastic area Usard And the first track that I ever have had the only track. Matter of fact, I have ever cast. I've run up on other tracks. I wasn't much at casting at first, but in twenty help help my mind.

51:17 Twenty night, my wife and I were at Land between the Lakes and I walked up on a footprint and I was able to get the material tasting and it's see, it's seventeen and a half inches long. It is seven inches wide at the at the toe section and at the hill the foot is five inches wide. A five toe footprint that I got at Land between the Lakes. I've been down there many times, and so we went to with a group at a local cemetery down there. I don't want to give the names just you know yet, but it was one of the bays in the LBL and we went into a graveyard. We had to walk up mile a mile a mile and a half to this real secluded graveyard. One of the first things we saw when we got there is a black looking old timey, old English looking gate around it, which just added to the surroundings. And it was a foggy night and we walked up to the gate. The first thing I saw was a tombstone that said had a man's name that said murdered right across the front. I thought, man, this is right out of a Stephen King novel. And we stepped right inside the gate of the grave yard it was told Silas, and all of a sudden, this gigantic tree right over in the woods just plome hits the ground and we hear a big wood knock now, And I said, well, we're at the right place. But LBL.

52:29 I've been there on several occasions, I probably seven or eight times or more, and at different spots. It's so big you don't have to go to the same place. LBL is probably in western part of Kentucky is one of the most lively spots for bigfoot activity. I'd say in our home state. Well, that's that's really interesting to hear. Can tell you is it is a weird state because on the one side you've got LBL. But on the other side, as you kind of mentioned, over there in Harlan County, which is super wild, you've got that Daniel Boone National Forest, which, man, this is exactly crazy stuff over there. I can tell I can tell you that. Of course I'm partial of Kentucky because I'm in Kentucky and when the bfr OL they have sites listed to each state, and we highly respect the BFRO, and they have Kentucky somewhere.

53:18 I don't know we're thirteenth or fourteenth in sightings, but when you get our site, the kbr OL site, Charlie Raymond has a site it has we have sightings of every bigfoot sighting that's been turned into US and Charlie lists them by county and you go on there and see each county and how many sightings of one hundred and twenty counties in the state of Kentucky we have sightings. I've always said ninety eight, but I think I've got to update that. We've got sightings out of one hundred of one hundred and twenty counties. They're all over the state of Kentucky. But if you take or over three hundred or is it four hundred I can check with Charlie, are three hundred and some odd sightings, and added to the BFRL sightings, we end up somewhere around fifth in the nation in bigfoot sightings.

54:00 Oh really, wow, that is really cool. I did not know that. That's awesome. Yes, yes, oh wow. I would like to share one more, one more thing that I may be I'm not watching. I've said this twice when I was leading up to this. I want to leave up to this again. You know, if somebody wants to see bigfoot or somebody's looking for bigfoot. And I've had a remember one report somebody said I just saw bigfoot on such or such road over the next county. So I jumped in my vehicle and I go driving over that way. And when I get there, it's a big foot cut out that somebody had standing in their woods. And you know, so you get sometimes you get off on the wrong trail. You know, you get on the cold trail. But I love when I received bigfoot sightings from people that don't believe in Bigfoot.

54:45 And I'm sitting here looking at a map i'd like to share with you and my part of western Kentucky. I'm blessed to be near Ohio County, Kentucky. If you go on the KBR website, it's one of the higher counties of sightings listed in especially western part of Kentucky. Ohio County is one of the larger counties of the one hundred and twenty counties in Kentucky. It's one of the least industrialized. It has more woods and more old bandoned coal mines, strip mines from back in the forties and fifties, and they turned it into wildlife refuge. And you can get permidst the hunt and fish on these lands. But I'm talking about you could go for miles and miles and miles of just woods, stick, uncut timber, old standing timber.

55:27 So Ohio County, no wonder has so many sightings. And I spend the majority of my time researching in Ohio County and the majority of my witnesses. But I'm looking at one section of the map and I do a presentation called when Bigfoot Sightings Coincide, And I love to share it's nothing to kind of get a report. Oh this county, we've got one report in the last fifty years. Okay, that's wonderful. But I love it when what I'm about to tell you these stories right here, this started coming to me, and I've got a map here, and these people neither of these people knew the other person, and neither none of these people I'm gonna tell you about believed in Bigfoot. We're talking about old time farmers, We're talking about old time country people, and they were un each other. And I'm gonna break the Bible in here again.

56:10 The Bible said, out of the mouth of any two or three, let a thing be established. Jerry Kleier, the comedian, said, what that means is, if you hear two or three people from different places tell you the same story, it must be the truth. So I'll start with this. My brother happens to work at a huge granary here in Kentucky, and he's worked there for twenty five years or longer, and he deals with farmers. They bring their corn, their wheat, their different grains, and he runs the granary and they unload their trucks there. So he's friends with the farmers. He knows all the farmers and two or three counties and they all know. You know. He's a very talkative, likable person. He's very person you know, he's very personable, and so he he loves to tell stories and talk to stories about farmers and stuff. So he's a real intricate part of my story. He comes to me one day he said, Bob, there's an old farmer. You need to talk to it. I believe he's seeing Bigfoot. So I said, yeah, I'd like to talk to him. My brother talked to him in the meantime and said, you know, my older brother believes in bigfoot. He reached hearched that guy said, what's a bigfoot? I love it. The old farmer said, what's a bigfoot? And my brother said, well, you have to creature people believe exists, and they think they're in Kentucky too. And he said, no, this is a gorilla that I'm seeing on my farm. And my brother says, you know, we don't have gorillas in Kentucky.

57:27 He said, well, I guess it escaped from a zoo. Look, you know, this is how their mind is figuring out what they saw. They're trying to make sense of it when there's no sense to be had. So the story of this farmer is that for the last five or six years, and this was back in about two thousand and nine, for five or six years, when he gets in his combine and he's combine in his wheat and it's corn and out in the steels, there's this gorilla on this property that comes out of the different woods. It stands there and watches it. He said, Now, when I get close to it in the combine, it goes back in the woods and stays hidden. But if I'm going back out in the field, it's steps out there. And said it just watches me like it's curious. And he said it's been going on for four or five years. He describes it at being eight to nine foot tall, covered in dark black brownish hair from head to toe.

58:13 It stands upright like a man, and when it walks, it really swings its arms. I mean, the extra just unbelievable. I'm looking searching for a word, but just extreme swinging of the arms. That man's explaining the bigs with it. My brother said, sir, you're seeing a bigfoot. He said, I don't know what that is. He said, it's a gorilla escape from a zoo. Well we all know it's not a gorilla that escape from a zoo. But I love it because that man is strongly trying to explain what he saw. So I marked this on my map. I've got it in front of you on the computer. So about a year later, maybe two years later, twenty eleven, we get a report at the KBrO and this young man is honey on some property he's bought. He's got his wife and his daughter. The show down they're not hunting.

58:55 He's scouting, not his hunting there that he's bought. He's got his wife and his daughter and another their friends with them, and they go over to camp out for the night. And when they get there, the river has flooded and they can't get to their hunting spot. So he gets out close to the woods and they set up a camp and him and his friend is gonna start scouting for deer sign getting ready for deer season. So him and his friend are walking away from their campsite to go look, and they start. It's at night. They hear these hyodis coyotes howling. So the man said, I stop, just have fun. I yell back at the coyotes, and all of a sudden, when he does something starts yelling back at him. Done most unbelievable long human lungs could do. It scream and made all the Kylodi shut up.

59:37 And the man says, man, we got to go back to the camp. My wife and daughter, they'd be scared to death. And I'm telling this store best I can remember, but I'm very close to the facts. They come back to the campfire and it begins a night of this creature whatever it is is walking around, crashing the trees, walking around all night around their camp. They keep the campfire big. His daughter's scared, his wife's nervous. He pulls out his guitars, starts singing, playing songs, and surprisingly the creature's calm when he's playing his music the way I understood it. But when he stopped, it start making noise and it keeps them up most all night long. And there's something walking around the woods, and I think they holler, you'll get away, leave us alone. Well, if I mark this on the map, and he named that area, it's a couple of big knobs, the hills we call them here in western Kentucky, we call them knobs. And he named Bigfoot Mountain. That's what the man named just for fun, you know, because they believe they was having experience with the Bigfoot. On the map, I'm looking at the farmer who sheeps seeing the gorilla every year that he's harvesting his crops. Is three miles south of the man who's had the sighting at Bigfoot Mountain.

1:00:43 Big for the SOCIETYHO will be right back after these messages. Now that's three miles. One fact I've learned when I first started researching, is a buck deer, when they get in heat searching for a female will travel a five mile radius. Some of the bigfoot researchers, and to be a far old people believe that a bigfoot can cover a thirty mile radius. So when I'm telling you the sighting is only three miles apart, I mean that's just like inches. That's very close. And that this farmer doesn't know the man who damed Bigfoot Mountain. I hope I'm not being confusing, but there's a sighting. So I marked this on my calendar. About two years later, I go up to a gas station here in my town, a little countrytown. I live in a little town of three hundred.

1:01:38 We're a little rural country town here in western Kentucky. Everybody knows everybody. So I'm getting gas and I've got a Bigfoot sticker on the back of my truck. And the lady put me in gas says, do you believe in Bigfoot? Preacher? And I said, yeah, I sure do. She said my daddy saw one. I said, we're at she said, over on the point in Ohio County. Now that doesn't make sense. Steed By, after listening but if you know this area, listen. The big Foot Mountain I'm just telling you about is on the point in Ohio County. It's a peninsula strip of land that is surrounded on one side by the Rough River and on the other side by the Green River. And there's only one way in and one way out of this peninsula. It's three or four miles long, and there's some thick woods and a lot of river banks. And she says, on the predictional of Ohio County. This is right there where Bigfoot Mountain is. So I said, would you could report for your daddy? She said, he's in the hospital. He's got a heart problems. He's dying. I said, would you ask him to relate the story to you. I won't go bother him in the hospital, she said, I'll ask him if he'll talk to you, preacher. So just girl, pounch my gas. She's there all the time. Every day I go in there. Every week she's there. So the next week I go in. She said. I spoke to my father, and my father don't really feel like having company, but he related the story in detail. And this man was at the point in Oha County and he was fishing, and he caught several catfish, and he kept hearing noises behind him in the woods. Behind him. He's sitting on the river and he turns and looks. He doesn't see anything, and he's thinking, what is that? He could hear something move and he turned around quick one time, after about thirty minutes of this, and he said, there's this monster

1:03:11 staring at him for behind a tree. It sticks its head out. It's about seven day foot tall. It's got hair all over its face, a long looking beard, but it's got a human looking face. It's really weather worn. It's rough looking, you know, skin, he said, like an Indian, like an American Indian. And he said, it's looking at me, he said, and I don't know what to do. I freeze. I turn around. I'm thinking, you know, I can't run. I'm too old to run. What am I going to do? And he turns back around and it's behind another tree. It's come a little bit closer. He's looking, and the old man figured out again, I love country people. I repeat this a lot. He said. I know what it wants. It wants my fish. And he turns around and says, you're not getting my fish. You can forget about it.

1:03:51 I just love that. He said, you're not getting my fish. And he said, this creature turns around and starts walking, is stuffed behind every other tree back, and it walks till it walks out of sight. Well, I go back to my map again. Please excuse my voice. I go back to my map and I mark exactly where it's at. It is one mile north of the Bigfoot Mountain sighting of the man who was surrounded all night, and it's three miles farther south to the farmer that sees the gorilla. So here we've got Bigfoot sightings years apart, coinciding in the same area. And I ask each one of these people that I could talk to, do you know such and such farmer? Don't know him? Do you know the man that's over here on big Foot Mountain in the Cloffman Road area? Don't know him. So these people are not relating stories that they've heard. They're telling separate stories and they don't know each other. So as if that ain't enough, my brother comes to me about four years ago and one it works at the Greaty and said, you need to talk to one of these truck drivers, one of these truck drivers has been seen a bear that walks up right it's over eight foot tall. Well, I said, Bove, you know bears don't walk up right.

1:04:59 Eaty the length of d He said, Well, what you're going to be really interested in is where he saw it at. I said, where did he see it at? On the peninsula in Ohaal County at the point, I said, are you kidding me? So I speak to this man, and this man loves to fish along the banks of the Green River. It's just chunk full of catfish. And this man find a secluded spot. He goes down the point of this peninsula, the point in Ohalk County, and about halfway down, I'm looking at a map, so I hope I can visualize this. Here's the point where the old man just told him Bigfoot he couldn't have his fish. One mile south of that is the man that's had the sight in Bigfoot Mountain that surrounded his campsite, literally a half a bile between those two points. I mean, he's just mind blowing. It just gets almost unbelievable. This man is fishing along the bank. He's found a good spot.

1:05:46 He's been going there for several years, and he tells my brother. He said, when I'm fishing, of course I look to the right. I look to the north. I could see the point goes down to a little town called Livermore, Kentucky. But he said, if I look to the south, you can see these big woods. Guess what woods that is? Dere am I Bigfoot mountain that was named by this other fellow. He can see it. It's about five hundred yards away. And he said, several times when I'm fishing, I see this upright walking bear that walks from the river bank up through those woods of the wood the woodline, the edge of the woods, and then all walk over. And sometimes I see it walking back. And my brother said, how far does this bear walk on his hind legs? And he said the whole distance.

1:06:27 And my brother said, don't you know that's not a bear. Bears don't walk up right that mountain distance. He said, well, I know what else could it be. So here's another man that doesn't believe in Bigfoot. He thinks he's seeing a seven or eight foot tall at that distance. He's guessing walking up right, coming from the river. And he doesn't know any ideal. Can let me take a drink he has no idea that that's Bigfoot Mountain, that that's where that other site he took place. And he said, I've seen it on several occasions over the years as I'm fishing. So there's one, two, three, four. I'm looking at my map and they're just three miles four miles apart at the longest. But these three sightings are not a half mile apart. I'm coming to the end of the story I'm telling. This is when it gets real.

1:07:10 This is when it gets amazing and why I love doing this research. So come down here to this area. I speak to the elderly man and woman who hears screaming behind their house, the woods they lived, and they lived there for fifty years. They call it the screaming woods. And he said it's nothing at nighttime to sell on your back porch and hear these loud screams and hows. So they direct me to some people right down the road from them that lives not a half a mile down the road. And I go down there and say what about these screaming woods And they say, oh yeah. I said, we were out here not two weekends ago, and we were burning our trash. People here in our part of Kentucky. We don't have dumpsters. You burn your trash in barrels. We have fifty five gallon barrels, and you burn your trash at night. And they said we was burning our trash, and said something started screaming from the graveyard across the road over there, and said, this starts scream I allow. I said it was shaking the metal on the side of our little shed, and said we quit burning trash and within the house. These two spots are marked on my map, and they're not one mile east of the big Foot Mountain siding. And so now I've got one, two, three fi, I've got five sightings on this map, all here, which is about an inch etch you and a half apart on my map.

1:08:20 I'm about to shut up. So I have a nephew. He's he's six foot tall, he weighs about two ninety. We're growing big down here. He thinks I'm the craziest thing. He's Uncle Donnie. I can't believe that you go out looking for Bigfoot. You know better than that. He'd laugh at me. I said, Elijah, I was out there enlighten her to Bigfoot out He said, yeah, sure, boy, he just laughs. He thinks that's the funny thing. He said, I'm the big Foot you're seeing. You know, he's a big, big guint of a fellow. So one night, my sister calls me eleven o'clock at night and says, you got to talk to Elijah. And I said, what's going on? She said, we were over at church in Centertown in Ohio County, and we were coming back home, which is coming down by big Foot Mountain. They got across the bridge into the Plain County, the county I live in, she said, and he saw Bigfoot. She said, he's white in the face. He can hardly talk. So I get him on the phone. I said, Lijah, what's happening? He said, Uncle Donnie, Uncle Donnie, I'm so sorry that I've made fun of you. I'm so sorry. I didn't believe. He's driving his automus tired and he just got his license.

1:09:20 He wants to drive everywhere. So she's letting him drive, and she's lent over the driver's seat kind of. They've been to church service, it's about nine o'clock at night. They're headed back home, and he said, when I ran to the curve, I saw eyes shine well, the first thing we do when we see it here in Kentucky this part. You better slow down because we are eat up with deer. It's nothing to go down the road. See deer's dead. Deer's laying everywhere, you know where people hit them with their cars. We're over populated with deers, and I love it. He said. I saw the eye shine. My first thought was dear. So I let off the gas and I start flowing down. He said. As I get closer, I'm thinking, my god, those eyes are awful tall. And he said, as I got close to my headlights, said it there stands this seven foot talker. Its eyes were as big as golf balls. I's not bigger, and they're at least four to five inches apart. And as I drive by, it turns his head and watches me pass by. He said, I almost wrecked the car, almost went off the road. And he goes down the road a little bit, and I think how big he is.

1:10:15 He says, Mama, Mama, you gotta git up and drive. I'm shaking so bad. I can't drive. I just saw bigfoot. So she gets out of the car and takes over in the driver's seat and goes to driving and when they get home, she calls me. So that's eleven o'clock at night. Eleven o'clock the next day, I meet him at that place. It was a driveway by an old country house. And I meet him there and he's still shaking. He said, I don't even want to be here. I said, look, it's daytime. You know. That was last night. And I interviewed his story. It's on a kbr old website. It's on my Facebook page and my YouTube page where I put all my interviews, and he tells the story here and says what he saw, and he did not believe in Bigfoot. He laughed at it. He thought his uncle Donnie was crazy for looking for and now he's a one hundred percent believer. Guess what not a mile not a mile from Bigfoot Mountain and not hardly a quarter of a mile from the people who heard the screens that shook the metal on the roof. So I went up to the house these people's driveway and knocked on the door and I said, excuse me, I'm down here at the end of your driveway. I said, I'm not here to cause any trouble. I just want you folks to know everything's okay. I'm doing an interview with my nephew who saw Bigfoot last night here at the end of your driveway, and this elderly couple in their eighties.

1:11:25 I guess it's all we're not surprised at all, so we hear them scream all the time, and it just gets so. I've got eight spots or nine marked on this map on the peninsula of Oha County, Kentucky, and the farthest is three miles away. I hope I've painted a picture. That's when Bigfoot sightings coincide. None of these people knew the other people they did not know there were other sightings two and three and four years apart. With the one farmer, he's been seeing the gorilla for the last five or six years that he was harvesting his crops. And these people don't even believe in Bigfoot at all. And when they tell you they saw bigfoot this, we're crazy not to bleed them anyway. Isn't that exciting? I love that.

1:12:05 That is absolutely incredible. That's the kind of stuff I love where it's just it's there's no question that it's there in that area because everyone is absolutely that is not related. Oh my goodness, that is such a cool story. I just want to say thank you so much, Don for coming on the show and for sharing what you've experienced over these almost twenty years and just some incredible stories. And are there ways that someone could reach out to you if they're listening and they'd be like, oh, man, I also have something going on in the same area or anything. I thought absolutely absolutely first and foremost. They can go to Facebook and look up KBrO Kentucky Bigfoot Research Organization.

1:12:50 They're welcome to do that. Charlie Raymond a wonderful organization. He is an honest and he has integrity. He's among bigfoot researchers. He's held in high steel. Of course, they can find my big foot page under Don Neil. That's ede a l. It's under Biggiefoot. I also have biggifoot in the name and they can contact me there. And I have a YouTube page under d my first letter of my name Neil and be glad to hear anybody's report. And I just want people know we're here to believe you. We're not gonna make fun of you, and we're trying to do scientific research. And Charlie Raymond is working on presenting to our state that if we can find evidence in proof that bigfoots here in Kentucky to make them a protected specie. So we're a no kill group and we believe if everybody's got a report, we would love to hear from you. We're very interested.

1:13:37 Oh that's incredible. I didn't know that. That is great, great to hear. But man, Don, thank you so much for coming on the show. I'm sure we will be in touch and keep doing the good work down there in the great state of Kentucky. Thank you for this great opportunity. Your man again, I'm so sorry I've been horse. This is not how I usually sound, but thank you for this opportunity. Yes, sir, take a few minutes to say thank you to you all my listeners for listening to the podcast. Please take a minute to help out the show by subscribing on YouTube, making sure you hit the bell so you don't miss any notifications, and share the episode on YouTube with a friend. Also, if you're listening to us on a podcast, thank you so much, make sure that you're subscribed, share the show with a friend. Really, it's all about sharing the show wherever you can. If you've had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following or know someone who has, Please reach out to me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email.

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