Oct. 13, 2024

Bigfoot Mysteries of Northeast Oklahoma with Yahola Tiger (Archives)

Join Jeremiah Byron on the Bigfoot Society podcast for an electrifying conversation with Yahola Tiger, host of the War Cry podcast and a Cherokee Nation member. Yehola shares riveting tales from Northeast Oklahoma, including accounts of Bigfoot...

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Season 1

Join Jeremiah Byron on the Bigfoot Society podcast for an electrifying conversation with Yahola Tiger, host of the War Cry podcast and a Cherokee Nation member. Yehola shares riveting tales from Northeast Oklahoma, including accounts of Bigfoot encounters spanning his lifetime. Discover the mysterious connection between Bigfoot sightings and local Native American traditions, and learn about eerie stories of light orbs rumored to protect hidden treasures. Yehola also sheds light on the notorious 'Third Hoot' experience and delves into the controversial story of a missing Bigfoot video from an Oklahoma casino. This episode is packed with fascinating insights for Bigfoot enthusiasts, overflowing with folklore and reality's intersection in Oklahoma.


Resources:

War Cry Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/war-cry-podcast/id1654393763

Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/4OiC6FRTUur1fOVsKKQCva?si=d3c0cc7459b3475e

Contact Yahola Tiger on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100071728809938Cryptids of the Corn Hyena Episode: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5KUwcqF9ieWH486F4E7x8j?si=296d3c79adf9426e

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Slash the big for Society, and now let's get on

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with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society. We've got the

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privilege of talking to Johola Tiger. He's the host of

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the war Cry podcast and he's a member of the

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Cherokee Nation and also of Muskegee Creek descent. How's it

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going tonight, Yohola.

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I'm pretty good man. I'm just paying an ad, just

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doing stuff, spooky stuff. I love talking about spooky stuff.

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That's why we're here. But I appreciate you having me.

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Oh absolutely, I've been wanting to talk to you for

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a while, so I'm glad that this finally worked out.

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You're also from the great state of Oklahoma.

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Correct, beautiful, Yes, beautiful state of Oklahoma. Born and raised

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Turkey res lived a lot of my life on the

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Cherkey res and then moved way over to my other side,

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to my Muscogee Creek side. And yeah, Oklahoma, man, all

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different types of things going on, but yeah, man, it's beautiful.

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Place, fantastic And a lot of my listeners will know

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that about Oklahoma because they know more of probably the

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southeast section. There's some wild bigfoot stuff that goes on

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over there. But if you could let us know contact

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wise or context wise, what part of the of Oklahoma

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on a map are we talking more western side eastern?

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Whereabouts we're in.

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So I'm from northeast Oklahoma. That's so tall. Quality is

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the capital of the Cherokee Nation. And it's located I said,

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probably about thirty minutes from the Arkansas border, up and

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up in the northeast Oklahoma. And it's people. That's one

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thing too that I guess people don't really they really don't.

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I don't want to say give the northeast credit. But

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there's a lot of there's a lot of woods, a

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lot of hills up in the northeast, and so there's

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all types of going on in northeast Oklahoma.

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Absolutely. How far away from the Watchetaze are you.

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Man, that's a great question. I'm gonna have to pull

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out my ninth grade geography book, I would say. So

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that's what I'm thinking. Probably maybe an hour and a

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half maybe, all right, all right, No, man, Like I said,

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my geography is not as is not what it used

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to be.

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It's cool, it's cool the northeast. I've talked to a

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lot of people from southeast. Of course, I've talked to

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a gentleman from the west. Western Oklahoma has some crazy

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stuff too. But now it sounds like we may have

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some action going on in the northeast as well. But

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we were talking earlier and we're talking about that you

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have had some you've heard of some Bigfoot related things

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over the years, and we've mentioned already that you're a

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member of the Cherokee Nation. Has have you grown up

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then hearing about Bigfoot over the years or when did

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that start to come into your life that you remember.

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Man, it's it's been my entire life. First, my first

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thought in my first really core memory of Bigfoot was

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I might have been six or seven years old, my dad.

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If you guys, if people are listening, when you're driving

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into Tahlequall, on the right hand side, there's a big

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old casino. Now back twenty twenty five years ago, it

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used to just be a pastor and there used to

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be a golf course on the other side of that pasture.

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And I remember one of my first stories I ever

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heard as a young buck was my dad's best friend

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was driving home one night and he saw something up

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at the on the right hand side of the road.

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He looked, he said, what is that? He just kept

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driving his USS. Probably a deer. I'll slow down, and

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so he kept coasting. He eventually passed us. What he

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could see it was just so dark. There's no lights

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out there. And when he hit his brakes when he

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was passing this thing, all he saw was a hairy

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arm and basically a hairy I'd say, maybe a quad

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And he hit his brakes and that light hit it,

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and that thing scurried off into that pasture and he

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didn't see anything, but he took off. One thing about

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that story that has come full circle now twenty twenty

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twenty fointy three. I talked to him to my dad's

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best friend. I said, hey, you remember telling me that

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story when I was a little guy, And he goes, no,

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I don't really remember that. He's a When did I

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tell you that? I said, you told me one time

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when we were all hanging out and you were playing

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guitar with my dad, And he goes, I don't remember that.

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And about a week later he goes, yeah, man, he's

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I sat and thought about that. I do remember that.

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Because now that road is a heavily traveled road, and

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it's not really secluded like it used to be in

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Cherokee Nation. And I don't want to speak for all Cherokees.

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I don't want to speak for all Creeks either, all

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really tribes in general. There's different types of these things,

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and there's some that make you forget. And I'm not

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gonna say the name, because if you say the name,

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you're gonna call it. But they make you forget, and

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sometimes almost like men in Black, where they hit you

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with that thing and you're like your mind's raised, and

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then you have you don't remember, and he goes, I

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think that's what happened to me because he's so scared.

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I just don't remember. And then I guess he traveled

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down that road or I don't know how he remembered.

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But then he was like, man, I remember that. He

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said that thing had to be like nine foot tall

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because he was sitting in this car and all he

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saw was basically a thigh. You see a thigh in

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the winds in the back glash, it has to be

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pretty tall. But there's all types of those stories that

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come around in that area. And to be long winded,

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that's how we are. And we'd be like that. I've

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been hearing stories and I've experienced things in my life

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where it's been my entire life.

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I want to go back to something you said really quick,

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and I don't want to go too deep into it

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because it's obvious that we don't want to. But if

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you want to address it, it says you said something

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to the effect of, we don't want to call it,

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and can you explain what that means without we don't

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want to do what it is that you would refer to,

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but what that would mean where we don't want to

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call it.

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So what I mean by is so there's multiple things

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that Sasquatch and Bigfoot can do that we as human

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beings sometimes don't understand. Trying to put this in a

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context that makes this digestible, I guess you could say,

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But essentially what they can do is there's always been

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this Native American medicine or magic or shamanism is what

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some people out west call it. They do those things too,

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and it's a superstitious thing. But when you talk about

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these things, there's a certain energy that comes with that.

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It's like an intention thing. But when you talk about

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and that's why when we talk about a lot of

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things in native culture we use and I'll say the

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name because I'll smoke off after this smoking. By the way,

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smoke off means with cedar and things like that for

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people that aren't that don't know those things, doctor cedar.

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But is this going to affect the listeners though?

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It's okay, okay, yeah, no it shouldn't. Now, I'd always

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if anytime you any time that someone's talking about different things,

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especially when it comes to Bigfoot. Even talking about Bigfoot,

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you're still talking about and you can still do what

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you gotta do. I do my certain things. People do

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their own things. You could pray. But but that's what

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I mean by that was is when you use their name.

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There's a certain old way name that you use, I know,

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the Creek name. And they can come to your dreams,

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they can come in physical there's just different ways. Is

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that these things can come to you. I and that,

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like I said it, and it could be anything too.

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It could just be it could just be energy. You

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can just have bad luck. There's and it's I'm really

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talking generally. I know there's probably some people out there,

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Oh he's talking crazy right now, But yeah, that's what

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I mean by by you don't want we don't want

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to call it by its name.

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I absolutely understand. Yeah, I definitely want to respect that

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m In your area of Oklahoma in the northeast, have

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you found that most Sasquat sightings will occur around the

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reservation or is it it's all over the place. It

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doesn't have to be specifically just in the actual reservation area.

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So all the reservations. So there's like I said, there's

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the five civilives that take up the eastern part of

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the state. I don't want to get political or anything,

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but I just that's just how that's divided up and

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now with kind of federal type of things going on.

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But it happens all over the place. I have heard

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stories from different people up in northern I'd say probably

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north central, I'd say probably north of Oklahoma City. There's

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been stories up there of them hanging out around out

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of Palalow. They'll be at the tree line and we're

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at the stomp Grounds, they'll be out there. Because a

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lot of those grounds, especially Stomp Grounds, are near water,

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you have to you have to make sure you have

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water around when you're doing those things. And a lot

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of people say that they travel by water, and there's different,

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various opinions on that, but like I said, they're all

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over the place in Oklahoma. I think I tried to

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ask somebody older, I said, how many think there is?

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They gave me a number like a thousand or something

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like that, and I was just like, man, that's a lot.

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That's a lot. I have people that reach out to

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me about every week telling me, hey, I saw something

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over here in Concho, Oklahoma, or I saw something over

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here and Anadarko, or I saw something over here in Hugo.

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It's all over the place here in Oklahoma.

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Oklahoma has incredible bigfoot stories. And I'm not going to

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mention the name of the group, but man, there's this

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one Facebook group about Oklahoma Bigfoot stories. Oh my goodness.

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It's a smaller one, and if you're in it, you

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know what I'm you know what I'm referring to it

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like it's a fight club type thing if you're in it.

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But oh man, you guys have some wild stuff down there.

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Do you think there's a reason why, you know? Oklahoma

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just it feels like there's so much. I don't know

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how to say. I would say, like maybe aggressive Sasquatch

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stories or sightings. Do you think there's a reason why

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there's so many in that state or is that something

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you've ever thought about.

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I had, I've heard some pretty aggressive encounters just here.

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In the last i'd say probably month, I was told

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a story about out Anadarko, Oklahoma, and a guy was

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he had his animals out there, and he had shot

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at it, and this thing had killed every city, and

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it killed after he shot it. The next morning he

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went out there and every single one of his animals

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was gone, perished. And I also wonder if it correlates

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with how Oklahoma is just in general, how we are

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progressive people a little bit. If you treat us, to

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treat people with respect, you're going to be all right.

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But once it comes to disrespecting people, it can get physical,

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or it can. And I'm wondering if those things mimic

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that energy with people coming like all the time, this

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land that hasn't been touched in a lot of years

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or ever maybe is being habitated by people with a

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lot of money, and they're moving up to these hills

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and these mountains and some of these valleys, And just

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speaking from experience, there was a guy and you fallaw

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who bought some land at the bottom of this infamous

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place that is known for bigfoot, Like it's known there's

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it's not catacombs, but it's more like caves. But there's

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caves out there in this little cliff. I don't want

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to say the name, but it's out and it's out

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and you fall area.

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But he bought land out there, and I'm always wondering

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if he's all right. Because you bought land. You you

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inhabited a place that no one is ever inhabited, and

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I often wonder if that's the case too.

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So that's very intriguing to me. That's that's an area

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that I don't think has come up yet, and it's

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I'm looking at it up on a map and it's

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so interesting because if you look up you follow Oklahoma.

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It's almost like on this peninsula in the middle of

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this huge lake. It's just it's a really interesting area.

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I need to look more into that.

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You fall a lake is man May And one thing

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that I know, like I said, I know this is

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a big Foot show. There's been talks of an octopus

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in there, a red octopus in that lake. I know,

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I have plenty of stories of people talking about giant

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snakes in that lake. Mythical, I guess you'd say, mythical,

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but native in our native culture. There's big snakes in there.

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A lot of it too, I think. Was when they

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made that lake, there was a lot of stomp grounds

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down there, and there was a lot of habitat that

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these beings, these creatures inhabited. And when you take over,

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nature is going to do something. But at my uncle's

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property out and you fallow. There was one time we

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were talking about these things out there. We were having it,

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were telling stories, because that's how we taught, that's how

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we kind of communicate lessons and different stories, and it

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is by talking about some of these things sometimes and

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trying to tell people to act right. And we were

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all out there and we were talking and people telling stories,

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and and something big ran through, mowing down all this

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rush and the trees, and it's thick out there, and

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it came right up to the tree line and it

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was dead quiet. There was not a single sound in

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that whole clearing. It was like no birds, nothing, no crickets.

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It was like the Alpha. It was like the alpha

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predator came and heard its name being called and it

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had to see what was going on. That's one thing

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that's I think when it comes to that area and

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it comes to like northeast Oklahoma, like I mentioned, it's

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it's very intriguing to me. That's why I can I

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continue to gather stories and information. And I'm so intrigued

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by by by Bigfoot.

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Oh absolutely, And this is something you've men mentioned a

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few times, and I'd like you to take a few

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minutes to define what it means because I'm just not

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familiar with the term, and there might be some listeners

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as well. Can you define what the term stomp grounds means.

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So it's a ceremonial grounds, stump grounds kind of flaying,

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but ceremonial grounds and so ceremonial grounds are in specific

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areas in an origin story, especially for the Creeks. Back

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in the old days, when we were being removed, we

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had fire and the fire guided us to our home

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here in Oklahoma and where and there were certain selected

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people in the tribe that would basically follow that fire

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and catch that fire, so we didn't lose who we

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are and that goes into a whole different other thing.

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But wherever that fire landed, you had to harness it

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and you had to make sure it was taken care of.

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And wherever it landed is where your grounds were, where

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your ceremonial grounds were, which is for your your prey

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in the Creator and thanking the Creator for what's what

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you've done, and you're asking for healing or whatever it

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needs to be done in those times.

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That's so interesting. It has parallels to the Old Testament almost.

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Yeah, it's yeah, it's that's what I'm saying. That's the

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one thing. It's just so intriguing about history. Man, It's

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almost like it repeats itself almost a little bit.

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Yeah, or it almost has a similar story but in

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different fonts. It's so weird. The more you look into things,

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and more that you look into different cultures, And yeah,

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that's that could be a whole other discussion. So talking

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about the stompground, so you're saying that the when they

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created that lake, they took over some stompgrounds. So I

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could definitely understand how that could be. That is a

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terrible thing to do. But you mentioned the giant snakes.

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How large were these snakes that were being seen in this.

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Lake anywhere from the size of a worm to the

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size of a I don't know, maybe fifty feet. I'll

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tell you. I'll tell you a very interesting story. So

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I have a cousin who he's funny, but he's real

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big into He probably listened to the show Hey, Cousin,

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What's going on? And I was playing cousin. But he

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was on Google Maps. And you know how sometimes you

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can get real close and see things and you can

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see outlines. The drone or whatever whoever takes those pictures

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of that, Google Maps caught one of those snakes going

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into the lake and he was trying to do the

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pencil markers and it was just the back end of

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the snake was like twenty two feet as he was

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trying to figure it out. But these snakes have power.

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They have how I say, And this is one of

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my favorite I ain't gonna lie it my favorite, my

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favorite being my native being that I love to talk

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about these early snakes. Born and raised in Tallacko, Oklahoma.

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We have the Illinois River and these and these things

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are known to cause floods, and the Illinois flooded multiple

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times because of people not taking care of that water.

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The same thing with you. You follow that lake is

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flooded multiple times over the years because people just aren't

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taking care of it. But what these snakes are is

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they are the king of the water. They take care

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of the water, that make sure people take care of it.

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When it's not being taken care of, they take manags

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into their own hands. One thing about Oklahoma, I'm sorry,

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we're deviating off man.

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No let's go for it. We're good man, Let's go.

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And one thing that is very well known here in

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Oklahoma is there's a lot of drownings. And that's one

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thing that I see the newspapers all time. How does

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people keep drowning? Oh, they must be just drinking too much.

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But it's strange that it's a lot of kids, younger people.

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You hardly ever see anybody old drowning. Maybe someone in

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their thirties, maybe that's not really that old. That's one

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thing that people will credit these snakes and I do

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personally to taking these people because maybe not saying it's sacrifice.

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That's the game you play when you disrespect nature in

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the water.

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Absolutely, it's not a thing that you get multiple chances with.

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You got to respect it. For sure. Speaking of the water.

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You also mentioned the octopus. Is that you hear people

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talk about the Oklahoma octopus? Is that the same thing

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or is this a different same.

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Same thing and crazy story that I heard from somebody

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out of you follow and I've also heard kind of

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murmurs about. I think it's Thunderbird Lake, I think is

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the other one that I've heard things from. But I

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had somebody tell me that basically they saw one run

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across the road, this major highway broad daylight. It was

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a small one, which I thought, I was like, that's crazy.

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Do you believe it? Sometimes you like people will just

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maybe just try to tell you a story to get

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on the podcast. I don't know, but I thought it

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was pretty interesting. But the Oklahoma octopus has been around

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for quite a long time. There was a guy and

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I cannot remember his name at the top of my head,

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but he had been investigating this. And they've also attributed

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a lot of these drownings in all these lakes to

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being that that creature, that being, and what I say being,

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it's more than just a creature, is what I'm is

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what I'm getting to. It's more of people talk about

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these mythical beings or these mythical entities, and that's what

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I'm referring to. If you ever hear me when I

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say being, these things are not they're not of this

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world or they're not of the normal world that we know.

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Totally understand when you show when you refer to Sasquatch.

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And the thing about the show is that there's many

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different viewpoints about what the creature is, and I'd like

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to think that we I talk to many different viewpoints

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through people when you're referring to to Bigfoot yourself, what

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is in your mind or what's your definition of the

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creature when you're referring to Bigfoot man?

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That's a So that's a great question. I've asked people

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that same question, and I always find it very intriguing.

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My opinion of it, though, is a weird one. So

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I think that they are I think that they are

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a and I don't want to say a set of people,

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and I don't not human is what. It's not what

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I'm it's not what I'm trying to say. A lot

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of Cherokees believe that they're a secret tribe and that

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they exist when they want to, when they want to

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be seen, and they want to be known that they're there.

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A story that I had come across as a young

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guy out of so I used to go to a

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cultural camp during the summertimes at Sequoia High School in Tahlequah,

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and I heard a story from an elder that he

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said that they look like humans, but they are just

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hairy and they got beards, but they're like super tall.

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He described this Sasquatch of this bigfoot to being about

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nine foot tall with a beard. It had a it

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looked like a human face, but they had a beard,

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and he called it a person. And when I growing up,

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in my mind I vision that I think of if

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they are people or if they're I know there's a

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theory out there there interdimensional beings. I know that people

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think that they're possibly a shape shifter or I've heard that.

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I've heard different things, and in my opinion, I think

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that they're I think that they are another set of

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like a tribe, and it's not a people, it's a

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tribe of beings. They do that they have ways in

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methods to remain undetected. And I go back to talking

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about like native medicine or native magic or shamanism, Native American,

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But I don't practice that stuff. I don't practice those

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things much like and I have that same thought when

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it comes to sasquatch is not all of them practice

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the ability to disappear. Not all of them practice the

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ability to look like a stump. Like some stories you

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hear all people's story. One time somebody basically sat on it,

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didn't even thought it was a stump. They were just high.

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King next said the stump was moving. I believe that

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they if they want to be seen, they will be seen.

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And they use these different methods in these different old ways,

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is what I call it. But it's these herbs and

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these these different methods to be seen or not to

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be seen. So I think that they're I think that

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they are of this world, but it's hard to describe

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what's of this world.

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Absolutely.

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Two.

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You know the stories that you've heard from your area,

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and you've talked to many different people over the years.

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Are orbs ever parts of those stories? Is that a

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thing that ever comes up down in Oklahoma?

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Yes, I had. I've heard a lot of stories, a

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lot of stories about orbs. Everyone wants everyone. The famous

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one here in Oklahoma is out in Miami. It's called

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the spook light. But it looks like a light kind

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of a I was around in northeast Oklahoma. My dad

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has actually seen it looks like a fireball, but it dances.

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It looks like a person walking or if someone was running,

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and it looks makes that movement. And old Cherokees believe

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that it's the souls of people that are watching over things,

454
00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:21.680
and that's they left their soul there to maybe guard something.

455
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Who knows, who really knows what it's really for.

456
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457
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458
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But I've also heard I've also heard that those things

459
00:25:38.519 --> 00:25:41.200
this is gonna I don't think I've shared this, but

460
00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:43.160
I'm going to share it to you. I have heard

461
00:25:43.200 --> 00:25:50.880
stories that these orbs dance around maybe buried treasure or

462
00:25:50.920 --> 00:25:54.519
some type of fortune, and I have heard stories of

463
00:25:54.680 --> 00:25:58.200
Bigfoot or dog man protecting this treasure. I have heard

464
00:25:58.200 --> 00:26:01.880
those stories. Maybe maybe it's treasure or something from like

465
00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:04.799
sixteen hundred, who knows, who knows what it is? Have heard.

466
00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:08.319
I've also heard the Bigfoot being associated with these orbs

467
00:26:08.359 --> 00:26:10.160
as well. So, but at the end of the day,

468
00:26:10.200 --> 00:26:12.319
people see the orbs and they're like Okay, I see

469
00:26:12.319 --> 00:26:15.240
an orb in the middle of this pasture. What's going

470
00:26:15.279 --> 00:26:18.319
on or what's happening? We don't really there's no explanation,

471
00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:21.400
but the old elders believe that it's possibly the soul

472
00:26:21.559 --> 00:26:25.079
of the people past gone that's protecting their wealth, or

473
00:26:25.759 --> 00:26:27.880
it could be that they're just trying to find another

474
00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:30.920
way maybe to go to the other side. It's very interesting, though.

475
00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:36.400
Can you tell me anything more about bigfoot guarding a

476
00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:40.079
buried treasure? That's an extremely new one for me. That's

477
00:26:40.200 --> 00:26:41.160
really interesting.

478
00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:45.039
Yeah, it's I'm just trying to figure out how to

479
00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:48.160
describe that because when I was told that story, basically

480
00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:54.039
somebody was supposed to somebody was digging up Basically they

481
00:26:54.039 --> 00:26:56.319
had figured out that there was some type of basically

482
00:26:56.359 --> 00:26:58.559
followed the orb, essentially, is what the story was told,

483
00:26:58.599 --> 00:27:00.359
and they dug it up, and when they look over

484
00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:05.880
there was a sasquatch there growling out him. Now he said,

485
00:27:05.880 --> 00:27:09.160
it maybe have been protecting. I don't really, I just

486
00:27:09.240 --> 00:27:12.000
used protecting as hey, like, when you hear that, hey,

487
00:27:12.039 --> 00:27:13.759
it's probably time to get out of here. I probably

488
00:27:13.799 --> 00:27:16.799
shouldn't be doing me trying to collect this this treasure

489
00:27:16.920 --> 00:27:19.240
or whatever this this fortune is or whatever he was

490
00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:21.880
trying to look for. That's just very interesting. That's why

491
00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:24.400
I haven't heard a lot of those stories. But I'm

492
00:27:24.519 --> 00:27:26.920
very if anyone out there, hey, if you got one

493
00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:29.319
of those, let me know. Yeah.

494
00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:31.599
Absolutely. I just wanted to clarify that because I was like, man,

495
00:27:31.640 --> 00:27:34.200
I don't want it to start like a ay sr orb,

496
00:27:34.279 --> 00:27:36.240
there's going to be it's like the new Leprechaun and

497
00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:38.799
the Rainbow. Yeah no, who knows.

498
00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:41.119
But no, I just I just had a like that

499
00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:43.599
that that story is. I heard that story years ago.

500
00:27:43.680 --> 00:27:47.839
But they basically followed it. That that flame and it

501
00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:50.319
brought him to basically it did a circle or whatever,

502
00:27:50.519 --> 00:27:55.039
weird like it was in a pattern essentially, and they

503
00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:57.200
noticed that it stopped at a certain location and it

504
00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:00.519
moved to the next and so they really, like I said,

505
00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:03.400
it's an older story. It could have just been coincidence.

506
00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:06.440
I know a lot of people see aliens with bigfoots

507
00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:09.559
another thing I've heard, but I haven't heard much on

508
00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:12.480
the alien part, but I have heard a few times

509
00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:15.079
of people seeing that flame and then they hear footsteps

510
00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:18.480
behind them or something running through the woods. I have

511
00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:21.200
heard that too as well. My dad actually was out

512
00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:24.240
in a name dropping somebody's town. But my dad, I

513
00:28:24.279 --> 00:28:26.720
think he was out at Holbert and heard something like that.

514
00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:29.400
We saw an orb and then heard something that was weird,

515
00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:31.720
but nothing ever approached him me. He just he heard

516
00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:35.519
something out with that ORB. So it also could be

517
00:28:35.559 --> 00:28:37.839
too that maybe Bigfoot's trying to find that treasure too,

518
00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:39.720
or whatever that is out there.

519
00:28:40.279 --> 00:28:47.519
It's it's such an awesome start to like a story.

520
00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:50.599
It's just it's it is so cool, like the buried

521
00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:54.279
treasure of Bigfoot in Oklahoma, and dude, I'm loving it.

522
00:28:54.359 --> 00:28:57.240
So let's pretend. Let's say we're in your area of

523
00:28:57.279 --> 00:29:01.880
Oklahoma and northeast. We're out of camp at fire, and

524
00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:05.440
there's maybe some people are there. They're starting to get

525
00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:08.279
to get older. They're older than kids now, they're getting

526
00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:11.839
into junior high maybe high school, and so the older

527
00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:15.240
individuals are like, Okay, it's time to tell them the

528
00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:19.599
story about Bigfoot that we kind of we all knew

529
00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:22.240
about it, and now these kids are old enough to know.

530
00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:25.599
Are there any stories like that that are passed around

531
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:27.920
the campfires up in your area?

532
00:29:28.720 --> 00:29:31.880
Yes? Yeah, yes, and no a story I remember being

533
00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:35.200
like you mentioned, we experienced that the one that was

534
00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:38.319
running through this brush coming towards us while we were

535
00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:42.039
sitting around telling stories. Another story that spooks me out

536
00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:45.519
to this day. It's out in park Hill, Oklahoma. It's

537
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:49.519
a little bit outside of Talliquall, Oklahoma. My dad at

538
00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:52.359
the time was a young guy. He just was living

539
00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:54.559
with my grandpa at the time, and he lived next

540
00:29:54.559 --> 00:29:57.319
to this park. It's called Merrel Home Park. It's about

541
00:29:57.359 --> 00:29:59.799
i'd say probably a mile and a half from his house.

542
00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:02.920
And it was real the hot night, and with old

543
00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:05.599
old Indian houses, especially old Indian heads, they were like, no,

544
00:30:05.640 --> 00:30:08.079
we not turning that ac on room. Keep it steaming

545
00:30:08.079 --> 00:30:10.400
in this house. So he had to open the window.

546
00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:14.960
And my dad is laying there and I'm and be

547
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:17.119
in mine. I've never told this story publicly, but this

548
00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:19.640
is a good time to tell it. And he's laying

549
00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:22.839
there in bed and he hears something jump over the

550
00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:25.599
fence and it makes this sound like the creaking sound.

551
00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:31.799
And he hears these large footsteps coming up to the

552
00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:34.839
window and he's laying there and he's what is that

553
00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:39.599
And it lets out this like a horse, Like a

554
00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:42.799
horse would make this kind of huffing sound. It was

555
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:46.200
real deep, and my dad sat there and he was

556
00:30:46.240 --> 00:30:48.160
he was sitting there and he's getting real what is this?

557
00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:52.759
What is going on? And it made that huffing noise again,

558
00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:55.640
and you heard he heard the creaking of the fence.

559
00:30:56.480 --> 00:30:58.640
So either it opened the fence or opened the gate

560
00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:00.240
because it was one of those little latch game that

561
00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:02.720
you can just flip up and open, or it jumped

562
00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:06.519
a fence and it took back off where he was going.

563
00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:10.000
The area is a very spooky area and it's got

564
00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:15.599
a lot of things going on. And in that area

565
00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:18.119
when I was a young guy, I'll tell you my

566
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:21.799
my I think my encounter with I think I believe

567
00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:25.000
it was one of these creatures, one of these beams.

568
00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:26.920
We used to I used to take my friends out

569
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:28.960
to this park and spook them out because I know

570
00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:34.240
how to get the spooky's going. And in this park,

571
00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:36.720
there's these trails that go up into this kind of

572
00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:39.640
hill area and it's in the pitch black. You can't

573
00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:42.880
see anything tree cover, No, you can't see any of

574
00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:47.079
the stars. And I'm messing with them. You're never supposed

575
00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:49.079
to hoop. I was always told never to hoop, but

576
00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:52.400
I mess with them. They're white folks I like messing with,

577
00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:54.160
like to show them that I know a few things.

578
00:31:54.240 --> 00:31:56.720
I'm Indian. I can summon these things and just have

579
00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:58.960
a little ego about it. And I made that mistake.

580
00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:03.440
So we come back off the bridge and I go, hey,

581
00:32:03.799 --> 00:32:07.720
we'll stop real quickly. I'm gonna hoot three times and

582
00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:14.640
watch see what happens. I hoot the first time. Everybody goes, hey,

583
00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:16.759
all right, man, hey, okay, hey, we got to we

584
00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:18.759
get the point you're trying to scare us. We get it.

585
00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:24.759
I hoot a second time and they're like, no, hey, okay, okay,

586
00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:28.480
hey hold it, Okay, chill up, chill up. It's cool.

587
00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:33.880
When I hoot that third time. Under this, when you

588
00:32:33.920 --> 00:32:36.240
go over that bridge, there's a little underpass that you

589
00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:40.759
can walk down to underneath that bridge. And there was

590
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:45.559
a roar came from under that bridge, and it was

591
00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:51.200
I always equate it to King Kong's roar, but it

592
00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:57.880
was it hits you, it hit me, and when it roared,

593
00:32:58.359 --> 00:33:01.680
I blacked out. Be in mind, I'm going to describe

594
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:05.440
the people that I'm with. I'm with two six six,

595
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:10.559
three hundred and fifty pound guys. I'm the last person

596
00:33:10.599 --> 00:33:14.359
in the back closest to the car after that third hoop,

597
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:16.759
and we hear that roar and I black out. They

598
00:33:16.799 --> 00:33:20.279
had those big boys were in the car in two seconds,

599
00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:25.799
took off and I come back into my mind all

600
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:28.880
the way and we're halfway, we're already almost home, and

601
00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:32.960
my mind comes back and I think what we ran

602
00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:34.640
into that night was one of those ones that make

603
00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:37.920
you forget, because I don't remember from the time that

604
00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:40.079
I hoo did that third time to hearing that roar

605
00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:46.400
two when we were almost halfway home. And to this day,

606
00:33:46.519 --> 00:33:48.319
I still have those people that say, man, I don't

607
00:33:48.319 --> 00:33:50.440
know why. That was the craziest thing I've ever heard.

608
00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:54.440
I have never heard anything that made me feel that way.

609
00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:56.279
It's almost like if you were face to face with

610
00:33:56.279 --> 00:33:58.440
the lion and it roared in your face and you're

611
00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:01.559
just like checked out out. And I spoke with it

612
00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:03.440
with one of them, with one of my uncles or

613
00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:05.599
with my uncle, and he goes, yeah, he said, you

614
00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:07.920
ran into the ones that the one that makes you forget.

615
00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:10.679
He said, you played. He said, what did you do before?

616
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:13.880
I told him when I did. He goes, Yep, that's

617
00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:18.199
what happens. So yeah, that's a that's my personal story

618
00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:21.320
that I've run into. That's out in park Hill, Oklahoma,

619
00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:23.960
at Burrow Home Park. It's a museum out there. It's

620
00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:26.639
the park is shut down. Now. There was a lot

621
00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:29.480
of things that happened with some people passing away out there.

622
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:31.400
I don't want to say the word. And then there

623
00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:34.440
were some other things that that happened out there. But

624
00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:38.400
another story, this is this happened back in the nineties

625
00:34:38.440 --> 00:34:40.280
at the same at that same park. I had an

626
00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:42.639
uncle of mine. He had shared this story with me

627
00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:45.719
because he had heard my story, and he was he

628
00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:47.280
was a young guy he was out there with He

629
00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:49.199
was out there with my other uncle and some friends

630
00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:52.480
and and they're doing some teenage saying, wilding out, just

631
00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:55.559
doing their thing, and the cops come. So they're hiding

632
00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:57.719
up in those trees. And those trees you can climb

633
00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:00.280
up them because they're all low, but you can up

634
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:02.800
there real high in that tree, and those cops are

635
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:05.400
trying to find them, and eventually those cops decided to

636
00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:07.519
not mess with them and they went on. At least

637
00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:09.639
there's these trash cans out there that are really heavy,

638
00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:11.559
and some of them are bolted to the ground. Some

639
00:35:11.599 --> 00:35:14.280
of them are not, but they're like hard metal heavy

640
00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:18.880
trash cans. And my uncle said, when they got down,

641
00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:21.800
something through and then the trash came might have been

642
00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:24.639
three hundred pounds through it like a pebble at them

643
00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:29.159
from over there by that bridge threw it at them

644
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:30.800
and it almost hit them. They were like, man, we

645
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:32.840
gotta get out of here. What was that? What just

646
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:35.760
threw that at us? And they took off And that

647
00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:38.079
was something that was shared to me here recently. I

648
00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:39.960
had never heard that story, and my uncle heard my

649
00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:42.480
story and said, hey, I've had the same thing. Something

650
00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:46.679
similar to me. Happened to me at that part. But

651
00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:51.079
growing up, I'd always hear these stories of people seeing

652
00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:54.840
these things, and as I've gotten older, I think with

653
00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:57.239
age people say hey, I'm going to tell you the story,

654
00:35:57.800 --> 00:36:02.159
and with the podcast, people tell me their old school stories.

655
00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:05.119
And that's one thing I loved about doing is hearing

656
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:07.880
these stories. But yeah, that's a few stories that I've

657
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:09.840
shared around a campfire, but I've also had shared to

658
00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:11.119
me in that way too.

659
00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:17.159
Hold of that is incredible that you had that experience.

660
00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:21.840
You said, so are you making a noise like a

661
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:24.960
like an owl? Like that type of thing, or.

662
00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:27.239
It's like one of the Yeah, it's one of those.

663
00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:30.920
Because so the backstory on that is is my grandpa

664
00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:32.840
did the same thing to some people when he was

665
00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:35.159
in college, or he had a cousin that did the

666
00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:38.480
same thing, or but essentially, and this is when I'm

667
00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:40.599
getting goose, I'm telling the story, but I'm gonna tell

668
00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:44.039
you what he hoo did when he did that hoots sound,

669
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:49.119
there was laughter in those trees at that park, and

670
00:36:49.159 --> 00:36:54.400
it was like maniacal laughter. And that's what that's what

671
00:36:54.519 --> 00:36:56.239
that's where I got that idea to do that. I'm

672
00:36:56.239 --> 00:36:58.400
gonna see if something happens, I'm gonna really mess with

673
00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:01.039
these people. But when thing about, like I said, when

674
00:37:01.079 --> 00:37:03.360
you call these things, when you call these beings and

675
00:37:03.400 --> 00:37:06.159
these entities, you're usually the one that has to pay

676
00:37:06.159 --> 00:37:09.159
the piper. And that's why that's why I a stepped

677
00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:12.239
away from the investigation side of that, because you know,

678
00:37:12.239 --> 00:37:15.199
I used to go out and I at one point

679
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:17.199
I was trying to find a cult in a small

680
00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:20.760
town here in Oklahoma. I was finding animal bones, animal

681
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:24.199
carcasses and all this stuff. But that's story for another time.

682
00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:26.320
Maybe we'll talk about that another time. But yeah, man,

683
00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:28.920
it's that's the kind of the backstory behind behind those

684
00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:29.639
that hooting.

685
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:33.239
We'll be back with more Bigfoot Society after these words

686
00:37:33.280 --> 00:37:41.360
from our sponsors. That's incredible, And yeah, the cult ones

687
00:37:41.360 --> 00:37:43.960
for another time. What was the name of that park

688
00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:46.880
again that you had the two incidents were happening at,

689
00:37:47.079 --> 00:37:48.880
just for my notes, Merle Home Park.

690
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:50.840
So it's it was. I think it's owned by the

691
00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:54.280
Tricky Nation actually, but it's basically the park is named

692
00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:56.840
after the house that that's at the edge of the road,

693
00:37:57.239 --> 00:37:59.039
and that house I think you can go and visit it,

694
00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:02.840
and it's haunted. It's truly haunted. Like I remember being

695
00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:05.639
a young guy seeing video camera footage of it of

696
00:38:05.800 --> 00:38:08.679
things moving in the house, like a full like chair

697
00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:12.440
moving across the floor of the house. I was like, man,

698
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:13.000
that's crazy.

699
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:24.559
Got it? Merle Holme Park in park Hill? Correct, Yep, yep, sir,

700
00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:28.519
totally got it. Oh, that's very interesting. I feel like

701
00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:31.440
there might be some listeners that also have some stories

702
00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:34.920
from that area. Feel free to contact me big for

703
00:38:35.079 --> 00:38:38.159
Society at gmail dot com. Also, we'll have I'm pretty

704
00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:41.280
sure we'll have Yohola's contact info in the show notes

705
00:38:41.400 --> 00:38:45.559
for this as well, well, we'll ask him later on that. Yohola,

706
00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:49.519
I know that you've probably chatted to people from all

707
00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:53.480
over the state of Oklahoma. Just curious. Have you ever

708
00:38:53.559 --> 00:38:57.119
talked to anyone that's had any interesting stories from like

709
00:38:57.559 --> 00:39:01.079
Laflora County or Honabie or anything like that.

710
00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:05.719
I know, so I had somebody tell me. And I

711
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:09.119
don't know exactly where Garfield County is. I had to look,

712
00:39:09.239 --> 00:39:11.880
if you like, I can't exactly know where that's at.

713
00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:13.920
But I had a lady reach out to me about

714
00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:16.000
a time when she was a little girl in Garfield

715
00:39:16.039 --> 00:39:18.639
County back in the early seventies. I believe she was

716
00:39:18.679 --> 00:39:20.079
a little girl, and this is old. She's an older

717
00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:22.519
lady now, but she was telling me a story. By

718
00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:24.480
the time, she was walking on the train tracks closer

719
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:28.320
to dark, and she looked behind her and there was

720
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:31.440
a it was basically a sasquatch following her on the

721
00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:35.519
train tracks. And when she looked back, it was walking

722
00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:37.679
behind like it was. It wasn't close, but it was

723
00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:39.679
you could see it. She could see it. The outline

724
00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:41.880
of it was big, and then when she looked it

725
00:39:41.960 --> 00:39:44.199
darted back into the tree line, and then it followed

726
00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:45.639
her all the way down to where she was going.

727
00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:48.559
Then she got home and they took off and went home.

728
00:39:49.039 --> 00:39:52.679
The story that I had heard o Nugby area is

729
00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:55.000
my grandpa used to do a lot of honeting up

730
00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:58.280
in the Kaimichi mountains and it wasn't really like an encounter,

731
00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:00.840
but it was more of the whole entire area where

732
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:04.360
he was at with his buddy when dead quiet. Could

733
00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:07.559
hear a pin drop, any movement, you could hear something,

734
00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:11.039
and he thought it was odd, and he had coon dogs.

735
00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:14.679
But I haven't really heard much of Lafour County. I

736
00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:17.440
know that there's some history with the Chalk Talls out there.

737
00:40:18.079 --> 00:40:20.480
I know that there's a there's a famous I think

738
00:40:20.559 --> 00:40:23.880
there's a famous story about. I think it's the Chalk Talls.

739
00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:27.679
Basically they went in and had basically a war with

740
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:31.639
these sasquatchs or these big foot and I think only

741
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:34.559
one person survived to tell the story out of all

742
00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:37.320
these guys that went down there to take on this clan.

743
00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:39.559
And I know that's that story has been around for

744
00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:40.320
a lot of years.

745
00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:47.679
Fascinating I can tell. So, yaholl you are a awesome

746
00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:51.599
guest because it's you're you have a wealth of knowledge

747
00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:55.880
about the state. It's incredible. So I might just start

748
00:40:56.360 --> 00:40:59.679
throwing some random things that you and see if anything hits,

749
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:03.599
because I can't have this type of conversation with everyone.

750
00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:07.320
Have you ever heard any stories about hyaenas being seen

751
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:08.000
in Oklahoma?

752
00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:13.840
It depends on what the what the description is, I'll

753
00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:17.800
tell you. So this is a weird story. And so

754
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:20.800
I used to uber when I when I was need

755
00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:22.880
some extra money back when I was a younger guy.

756
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:26.440
This might have been about five six years ago, and

757
00:41:26.599 --> 00:41:28.880
I was out and this is in Bigsby, Oklahoma where

758
00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:32.840
this took place, and I was I got a dean

759
00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:35.960
and I went down into once you cross the river

760
00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:39.000
going into Bigsby South. When you're going south into Bigsby,

761
00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:41.280
if people are in that area or listen, there's a

762
00:41:41.360 --> 00:41:44.119
road that takes you next to the river that goes

763
00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:46.119
on down. There's a bunch of nice homes out there.

764
00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:49.000
And I had basically I picked these two girls up

765
00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:50.400
at the end of the road and I could tell

766
00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:53.320
that something was off with them. I was like, they

767
00:41:53.320 --> 00:41:57.239
look frazzled, I guess you could say. And me being

768
00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:00.920
conspiracy guy and I love cryptis and I'm into the

769
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:04.480
spooky stuff, and I like to hear these things. And

770
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:06.320
so I'm just driving and I'm not saying anything. I

771
00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:09.559
got the music on you. I'm just but I'm overhearing this.

772
00:42:09.719 --> 00:42:14.159
These two girls talk about them seeing this weird looking

773
00:42:14.280 --> 00:42:18.639
dog about the same not I wouldn't say about the

774
00:42:18.679 --> 00:42:20.880
same size of the car, but it was a little smaller,

775
00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:25.000
and she goes they were like sitting there talking about it,

776
00:42:25.039 --> 00:42:27.440
and they were like, man, that dog looked weird, kind

777
00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:30.119
of looked like a hyena, kind of looked weird, didn't

778
00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:32.559
look like a dog. What do you think that was?

779
00:42:32.599 --> 00:42:34.679
And they're sitting there back there, talking and describing this

780
00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:38.280
thing sounding and to me, in my first thought, I

781
00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:40.840
thought it was maybe a dog man and I still

782
00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:44.519
think it might be, but they way to described it

783
00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:48.920
was like a hyena kind of looking thing, and because

784
00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:51.199
it wasn't bigger than the car, but it was like

785
00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:55.719
a little it was bigger than a dog, basically, and

786
00:42:55.760 --> 00:42:57.320
they were like, man, I don't know what that was,

787
00:42:57.400 --> 00:42:59.440
and they went on to basically, and I didn't ask

788
00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:01.440
them about it. I just stayed quiet because I wanted

789
00:43:01.480 --> 00:43:03.519
to hear it naturally from them. Because they were very

790
00:43:03.559 --> 00:43:06.119
I could tell that they were upset, like this thing

791
00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:09.079
scared them, and they were sitting there with me, and

792
00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:11.599
I don't know what that was. It couldn't have been

793
00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:13.639
a dog. It couldn't have been couldn't have been this.

794
00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:16.639
I don't really know what that was, but it didn't

795
00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:19.519
look like anything I've ever seen before. I was waiting.

796
00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:21.599
But the boys, the guys, there was about six or

797
00:43:21.639 --> 00:43:23.599
seven guys that were out there at this I guess

798
00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:26.199
they're having a bonfire out there out in kind of

799
00:43:26.199 --> 00:43:28.639
this next to this house, I don't really know, but

800
00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:31.079
the details on that, but they ended up having to

801
00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:36.039
chew this thing off. Whatever this thing was. Now, is

802
00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:38.920
it a hyena or or was it a dog? Man?

803
00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:41.519
I really don't know. I just recently went and saw

804
00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:45.039
a live hyena at this place here, and I currently

805
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:48.239
reside in Oklahoma City. But I went to this place

806
00:43:48.280 --> 00:43:52.599
and I saw a hyena, full grown hyaena, and the

807
00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:54.719
way that this girl described it, and I'm glad that's

808
00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:57.239
crazy you asked me this question. As I went and

809
00:43:57.280 --> 00:43:59.480
looked at this thing and this thing the way she

810
00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:02.159
described it, this thing was a little like it was

811
00:44:02.159 --> 00:44:04.480
way bigger than a dog, but it wasn't like four

812
00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:06.639
foot tall it was, but it was big. You could

813
00:44:06.679 --> 00:44:10.800
tell this animal is a really muscular animal. And I

814
00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:13.920
just thought that was an interesting story. You know that

815
00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:16.079
I heard from these two I based the high school

816
00:44:16.119 --> 00:44:18.960
girls at a bonfire. You know, it's crazy just overhearing

817
00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:19.639
them talk about it.

818
00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:24.360
That's it's very interesting. And listeners, I'm going to shout

819
00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:27.760
out grifteds of the corn real quick. You don't listen

820
00:44:27.800 --> 00:44:30.679
to that, you need to. Your podcast is great and

821
00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:33.239
the greatest episode, I think is when they talk about

822
00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:38.199
hyenas and how a lot of dogman sightings are probably

823
00:44:38.239 --> 00:44:43.039
misidentified hyenas. It's very interesting. Please take a listen. I'm

824
00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:45.800
going to play in the show notes too. But yohola.

825
00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:49.360
That kind of leads into another question, is are there

826
00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:52.239
a lot of dogman sightings in your state as well?

827
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:54.960
Besides bigfoot man.

828
00:44:55.599 --> 00:44:58.320
From what I've heard, I think they're running everywhere too.

829
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:01.519
I'll tell you a crazy story. And this is a

830
00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:05.920
crazy story. This is This is in Oklahoma City. This

831
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:10.679
is in Oklahoma City. This is the biggest city in Oklahoma.

832
00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:15.039
I was conversing, we got a story. I got a

833
00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:18.480
story from this woman basically telling me about her childhood

834
00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:21.920
here in Oklahoma City, and she went on the way

835
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:26.079
she described is the layout of their house and where

836
00:45:26.119 --> 00:45:31.079
their house was is was in basically a central part

837
00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:33.800
of Okamoa City. There was there's basically hardly any trees,

838
00:45:34.519 --> 00:45:36.800
but she did mention that there's a row of trees

839
00:45:36.840 --> 00:45:40.199
that connect on down that just I guess it's just

840
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:43.079
undeveloped land that goes all the way out to wherever

841
00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:47.000
outside Oklahoma City. And I never really got what part

842
00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:50.199
of Oklahoma City that she was in. But she as

843
00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:53.920
a little girl one night and this is she always

844
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:56.239
felt like she was being watched. And when she was

845
00:45:56.239 --> 00:45:58.000
playing outside and she might have been I think she

846
00:45:58.039 --> 00:46:00.880
said she was eight years old. She was outside just

847
00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:04.119
playing around and just being a little kid, and she

848
00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:07.280
also felt like she's being watched. And she told her mom,

849
00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:09.960
I'm scared to go outside. What's wrong? There's nothing out here,

850
00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:13.440
but there their fences backing up against this thick tree line,

851
00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:17.960
those trees that surrounded it. And one night she's sitting

852
00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:23.199
there in the in her bed and she just said

853
00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:25.400
in the way that she wrote it, it made it

854
00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:27.639
sound like she just rolled over like she was just

855
00:46:28.039 --> 00:46:30.960
tossing and turning. That night, and she looked over and

856
00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:35.920
there was this basically this wolf's head staring at her

857
00:46:35.960 --> 00:46:40.599
from the into the window, and it was just looking

858
00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:45.559
at her, and she looked at it and she I guess, well,

859
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:48.159
the way she described it, it was just like a she

860
00:46:48.239 --> 00:46:50.719
was shook, like she didn't know what she was looking at.

861
00:46:51.039 --> 00:46:53.360
And the window was not like a like a window

862
00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:55.199
that was on the ground. This was like a pretty

863
00:46:55.519 --> 00:46:58.960
high up window. And she's looking and this thing is

864
00:46:59.079 --> 00:47:02.840
this creature is looking at her through this window with

865
00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:07.079
red eyes, and it's almost like she felt like it

866
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:13.079
wanted it to her to come outside, and she looked

867
00:47:13.119 --> 00:47:17.360
at it and basically screamed when she when eventually when

868
00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:20.440
it dawned on her, hey this is not normal. And

869
00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:22.239
when she screamed, her parents come in and then it

870
00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:25.960
was like the end of it. She had heard tappings

871
00:47:25.960 --> 00:47:28.280
on the window sometimes when she like because she would

872
00:47:28.280 --> 00:47:30.519
close the curtains a lot of times and just happened

873
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:33.039
so that night that she had it open. But that's

874
00:47:33.039 --> 00:47:36.480
at Oklahoma City. But for me, that's crazy because it's

875
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:40.360
like heavily populated area. Another story comes out of I

876
00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:45.719
believe it's out of the Salina area. Salina Oklahoma. No,

877
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:47.840
I'm sorry, not Selina, Oklahoma. This is out of I

878
00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:53.320
believe it's north north northern part of Anyways, I'm getting

879
00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:56.000
into Minutia. But there was a story that elders used

880
00:47:56.039 --> 00:48:00.360
to talk about about a dog like creature that would

881
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:04.159
run down this road and it was known to do this,

882
00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:07.039
and basically what it would do is it was passing

883
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:09.320
through every It wouldn't be every night, but that would

884
00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:11.039
be its route. It would come through and it was

885
00:48:11.079 --> 00:48:15.719
like a dog on its hind legs running fast. An

886
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:18.960
elder one time, i Get was talking about the time

887
00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:21.880
that her and her brothers had heard something like some

888
00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:26.199
type of yipping and it sounded like baby coyotes, and

889
00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:29.280
she was like, what's that sound? And so they her

890
00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:32.159
brothers decide to go check it out. So they go

891
00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:35.400
through the woods and they get up to where they

892
00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:39.320
hear this kind of chirping sounds like coyotes, and what

893
00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:44.000
they see is an upright werewolf and it's yipping like

894
00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:47.480
a coyote, and they're like, what in the world. So

895
00:48:47.519 --> 00:48:50.320
they take off running and they run back the house

896
00:48:50.360 --> 00:48:53.320
and they couldn't talk. They couldn't speak for a whole

897
00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:56.440
thirty minutes. After and that's on the Cherokee Nation. Is

898
00:48:56.480 --> 00:48:58.079
one thing about dog man. I think it is a

899
00:48:58.119 --> 00:49:02.920
little bit confused sometimes when in non native circles. I'd say,

900
00:49:03.559 --> 00:49:06.880
is the difference between shape shifters and skin walker and

901
00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:10.679
a dog man. Those things are not interchangeable. They're different.

902
00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:14.719
And I had their stories up and like I said

903
00:49:14.760 --> 00:49:18.320
in Northeast Oklahoma of shape shifters, a funny story. This

904
00:49:18.360 --> 00:49:21.840
is old, old medicine. But there's two These two women

905
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:24.480
could do these things. They could shape shift into kind

906
00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:29.440
of wolf wolf like wear wolf type thing. And they

907
00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:31.559
would always be beefing with each other. They had beef

908
00:49:31.559 --> 00:49:34.280
for their entire life. They were never could never get along,

909
00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:37.079
but they would always beef with each other through through

910
00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:41.119
this kind of shamanism shape shifting thing. And there was

911
00:49:41.159 --> 00:49:43.159
a nurse one night and said that she saw a wolf,

912
00:49:43.480 --> 00:49:45.800
I guess on hind legs walking in the nursing home,

913
00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:48.079
walking around in the nursing home. It was that one

914
00:49:48.119 --> 00:49:50.599
of those ladies going in to mess with the other lady.

915
00:49:51.079 --> 00:49:55.760
There's getting back to two dog man. Something that happened

916
00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:57.840
to me when I was on the Illinois or when

917
00:49:57.840 --> 00:50:00.119
I was It was on Halloween night which is crazy.

918
00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:03.440
I'm being very long win and I apologize and I'm

919
00:50:03.519 --> 00:50:05.960
hitting all these different stories and whatnot.

920
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:09.920
But we'll be back with more Bigfoot Society after these

921
00:50:09.960 --> 00:50:11.360
words from our sponsors.

922
00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:15.000
I was on the Illinois River driving to a cabin

923
00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:20.960
that we rented out on Halloween night and I saw

924
00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:23.880
something on the right hand side of the road and

925
00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:27.800
it looked like a wolf. It was on all fours,

926
00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:32.280
but it was sitting next on its hind haunches, like

927
00:50:32.360 --> 00:50:34.440
when if someone was bending down to get out of

928
00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:36.480
the way, if you're standing up and then you just

929
00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:38.880
squat down real quick. It looked like it was already

930
00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:42.360
squatting down. And I looked and I said, what was that?

931
00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:44.400
And this is before I even knew about dog man.

932
00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:48.559
I had no idea about this, and I was like,

933
00:50:48.599 --> 00:50:50.840
what was that? And I was like, that's a big

934
00:50:51.039 --> 00:50:53.000
that's a big dog. I ain't never seen no dog

935
00:50:53.119 --> 00:50:57.000
like that. Fast forward to the night and people are like, man,

936
00:50:57.039 --> 00:50:58.639
I don't want to go outside, and I'm like, what

937
00:50:58.639 --> 00:51:00.519
are you talking about? They're like, man, we pulled up

938
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:03.559
there was a big old dog outside. It was like

939
00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:06.320
it wasn't near the house, but it was up up

940
00:51:06.360 --> 00:51:07.840
the road a little bit where I saw it, but

941
00:51:07.880 --> 00:51:10.000
it was on dal like it was coming closer to

942
00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:13.480
the cabin where we were at, and they were like, man,

943
00:51:13.480 --> 00:51:15.079
we almost hit this big old dog.

944
00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:15.360
Man.

945
00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:18.440
It was huge. We don't even know what it was like,

946
00:51:18.599 --> 00:51:20.920
I we didn't. We had to swerve out of the way.

947
00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:23.760
But that's how they're describing it. And there were some

948
00:51:23.800 --> 00:51:26.000
people outside sitting on the porch and where this is

949
00:51:26.000 --> 00:51:29.320
a big old doing young people things and and I

950
00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:31.360
guess I'm still young, but I'm saying young and dumb

951
00:51:31.400 --> 00:51:34.920
stuff like and people. I had some people tell me

952
00:51:34.920 --> 00:51:36.920
they swear on everything. There was a howl that came

953
00:51:36.920 --> 00:51:40.480
from the river and it was a big how we

954
00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:42.639
had music going and they heard it over the music,

955
00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:46.280
which is a crazy thing. But that's in that's all

956
00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:49.000
that's in Talllequah. That's up with the river in Tahlequah

957
00:51:49.559 --> 00:51:52.159
when it comes. But I can keep going. There's all

958
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:54.800
just different types of stories. There's one out of kind

959
00:51:54.800 --> 00:51:57.800
of southern Oklahoma. When it comes to I guess it's

960
00:51:57.840 --> 00:51:59.719
like a it's like a trail to this thing has

961
00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:02.599
been running a trail than people have seen it. But yeah, man,

962
00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:05.039
there's I think they're I think they're pretty rampant here

963
00:52:05.079 --> 00:52:05.679
in Oklahoma.

964
00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:11.079
I would say, without a doubt, you guys have some

965
00:52:11.159 --> 00:52:13.960
things going on down there with dog Man as well.

966
00:52:14.360 --> 00:52:17.280
Now do you not not even to mention your hyena

967
00:52:17.480 --> 00:52:20.920
story that I just randon decided to ask you about.

968
00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:24.920
Which is weird that came up. But I have a question.

969
00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:28.400
It's part of my ignorance. But so I know that

970
00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:34.079
on the Navajo Nation they have the Navajo Rangers? Is

971
00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:40.239
there an equivalent of that on the reservations in your area?

972
00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:46.480
So now I would say no. Now, granted, when you're

973
00:52:46.519 --> 00:52:50.440
dealing each nation here in the northeast and the five

974
00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:55.480
Civili tribes and it's some seminole Chalk Tall, Chickasaw, Cherokee

975
00:52:55.559 --> 00:52:59.159
and Creek and Mascogane Creek and everything has to be

976
00:52:59.199 --> 00:53:01.639
more corporate, now, I would say, and when it comes

977
00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:05.079
to that, But I would not be surprised, and this

978
00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:08.159
is just my thought is I would not be surprised

979
00:53:08.199 --> 00:53:13.159
if they had a unit or some type of paranormal

980
00:53:13.239 --> 00:53:18.840
investigative section of each Marshall or mar Turkey Marshals, and

981
00:53:18.880 --> 00:53:21.679
then the Creek Nation Lighthorse. I would be surprised if

982
00:53:21.679 --> 00:53:24.519
they went out and investigated, because the one thing that's

983
00:53:24.559 --> 00:53:28.320
happening in especially in Creek Country, is a lot of

984
00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:30.920
people are moving out of the city and they're buying land.

985
00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:35.519
And I wouldn't be surprised that those christiecisally Creek Nature

986
00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:37.800
or chokey nations. They have people that go out and say, hey,

987
00:53:38.199 --> 00:53:40.519
we got a weird call of this seven foot tall

988
00:53:40.599 --> 00:53:43.159
hairy man. And they may be off the record, I

989
00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:45.079
don't know, but I would not be surprised at all

990
00:53:45.079 --> 00:53:47.039
if that's if they had something like.

991
00:53:47.039 --> 00:53:50.039
That, I wouldn't be surprised either. And if there's someone

992
00:53:50.599 --> 00:53:53.440
that's listening and that's you, and hey, if you want

993
00:53:53.480 --> 00:53:57.119
to reach out, that's cool. But yo, hold on, man,

994
00:53:57.159 --> 00:54:03.519
this has been such a fun and refreshing interview. Mike goodness,

995
00:54:03.559 --> 00:54:06.880
this has been a good time. Can you do you

996
00:54:06.920 --> 00:54:10.159
mind spending a few minutes talking about what the War

997
00:54:10.760 --> 00:54:15.000
podcast is, what listeners can expect to hear when they

998
00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:16.599
subscribe and listen to that.

999
00:54:17.480 --> 00:54:20.159
Yeah, so a lot of the things that you guys hear,

1000
00:54:20.239 --> 00:54:23.639
I do discuss some of these things on my podcast.

1001
00:54:23.639 --> 00:54:25.320
I go a little bit harder when it comes to

1002
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:29.679
certain things. My podcast consists of basically true crime, conspiracy

1003
00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:35.480
to native stories to basically anything and everything that goes

1004
00:54:35.480 --> 00:54:38.159
bumping the night. And I try to do research on things,

1005
00:54:38.199 --> 00:54:40.280
and I try to reach out to people and get information.

1006
00:54:40.880 --> 00:54:45.599
But the podcast is available on basically Spotify, Apple, Google,

1007
00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:48.800
that's on YouTube. I got some interviews on there. Every

1008
00:54:48.840 --> 00:54:52.039
episode I think up until the latest one is up

1009
00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:54.000
on YouTube. But you can find me, like I said,

1010
00:54:54.119 --> 00:54:56.480
Warcry podcast. And you can even add me on Facebook

1011
00:54:56.480 --> 00:54:59.079
too as well, Yahula Tiger. But send me a message.

1012
00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:01.239
Sometimes people just add me and I'm like, I'm gonna

1013
00:55:01.239 --> 00:55:02.920
accept it because I don't know who you are. But

1014
00:55:03.280 --> 00:55:04.639
if you send me a message and say, hey, man,

1015
00:55:04.639 --> 00:55:07.400
I listened to I heard you on Bigfoot Society or

1016
00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:09.639
I heard you here or I love the podcast, and

1017
00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:12.000
I'll accept you because I nectally. Like I said, I

1018
00:55:12.079 --> 00:55:15.159
like talking to people, and I like getting information and

1019
00:55:15.239 --> 00:55:16.079
stories from people.

1020
00:55:18.239 --> 00:55:22.840
Absolutely and listeners. If Jahola said something and it jogged

1021
00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:26.079
your memory about something about Oklahoma, reach out to him,

1022
00:55:26.360 --> 00:55:29.360
send him a message, get it more information for sure.

1023
00:55:29.599 --> 00:55:34.159
But Yohola, it has been a pleasure chatting with you tonight.

1024
00:55:34.719 --> 00:55:37.039
Yeah yeah, real quick. You didn't ask me about that,

1025
00:55:37.239 --> 00:55:38.400
so have you heard about.

1026
00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:42.880
This, You totally didn't. Yeah, go for it, man, So.

1027
00:55:42.840 --> 00:55:46.440
You didn't ask me about the casino that reportedly had

1028
00:55:46.480 --> 00:55:49.559
that the video of that bigfoot coming out of the

1029
00:55:50.119 --> 00:55:52.039
grass grease trap. Have you heard about that?

1030
00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:54.400
I've heard of it. Yeah, yeah.

1031
00:55:54.440 --> 00:56:00.000
So I've had an individual come forward and he worked

1032
00:56:00.519 --> 00:56:09.639
security there and he himself before that video happened. Now,

1033
00:56:09.639 --> 00:56:14.920
there's multiple theories, there's multiple different things that people say

1034
00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:18.679
that happened, but he swears by this is what happened

1035
00:56:19.719 --> 00:56:26.519
is essentially that and it is i'ms say whatever, we're here.

1036
00:56:26.559 --> 00:56:29.639
I've already mentioned it, so we're here. Essentially what happened

1037
00:56:29.719 --> 00:56:35.039
was is the tribes confiscated it. The tribe confiscated that

1038
00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:40.360
that video, Okay, but they were late, and allegedly there

1039
00:56:40.400 --> 00:56:42.719
are copies possibly out there somewhere.

1040
00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:44.480
Oh my goodness.

1041
00:56:44.719 --> 00:56:47.920
And I would not be surprised if we hear twenty

1042
00:56:48.000 --> 00:56:51.559
years from now that it came up that the videos

1043
00:56:51.719 --> 00:56:56.000
resurfaced somehow. I've also heard a theory from someone different

1044
00:56:56.039 --> 00:56:58.760
that said that Matt Moneymaker from the bfro bot it.

1045
00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:00.199
Jeez, you're gonna get me.

1046
00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:01.880
Sounds so much struggled.

1047
00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:03.960
There's a big allegedly. That's wild.

1048
00:57:04.039 --> 00:57:07.440
Okay, that's from somebody that works there. That's all that

1049
00:57:07.519 --> 00:57:11.000
said that as well. Now, like I said, one thing

1050
00:57:11.039 --> 00:57:13.639
about this tape, and this is why everything I'm talking

1051
00:57:13.639 --> 00:57:16.760
about is allegedly, and I don't nothing is for certain.

1052
00:57:17.440 --> 00:57:21.800
But what I do know for sure is that from

1053
00:57:21.840 --> 00:57:26.119
what I was told from this person that there was

1054
00:57:26.159 --> 00:57:29.039
a group of older ladies and this is how this

1055
00:57:29.119 --> 00:57:34.119
whole thing culminated into what it became. Is either this

1056
00:57:34.199 --> 00:57:36.960
happened before or after, and I cannot exactly remember how

1057
00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:39.679
they described it, but there was a group of senior

1058
00:57:39.719 --> 00:57:43.920
citizens that had come to gamble, which is a wild

1059
00:57:43.960 --> 00:57:46.440
thing to do, is to send nursing home people into

1060
00:57:46.519 --> 00:57:49.079
in the casino to spend their nursing home money.

1061
00:57:49.360 --> 00:57:51.440
So that's messed up yet, that is wild.

1062
00:57:52.559 --> 00:57:55.400
But it was a bunch of senior citizens that I gets.

1063
00:57:55.400 --> 00:57:56.440
I don't know if they said, I don't know if it

1064
00:57:56.480 --> 00:57:59.400
was a nursing home, but whatever. The bus driver saw

1065
00:57:59.480 --> 00:58:04.400
this thing standing at the tree line waiting for those

1066
00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:06.519
ladies to come out, or those ladies and those men

1067
00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:10.079
to come out, those senior citizens to come out, he

1068
00:58:10.119 --> 00:58:15.079
took off and quit. Then that's then the guy that I,

1069
00:58:15.320 --> 00:58:19.480
like I said, the person I've talked to basically saw

1070
00:58:20.079 --> 00:58:23.800
one of these things and heard tree nonks and haulers

1071
00:58:24.599 --> 00:58:26.599
I think the next night, and then that's when they

1072
00:58:26.719 --> 00:58:32.039
got the film, and I've this is something that I've

1073
00:58:32.079 --> 00:58:34.800
really I've been very interested in, and I've been trying

1074
00:58:34.800 --> 00:58:37.519
to get people to come forward, and I've even put

1075
00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:39.760
it out there on some episode, Hey have you heard anything,

1076
00:58:39.880 --> 00:58:42.039
let me know, And like I said, I had this

1077
00:58:42.079 --> 00:58:44.519
gentleman who worked, like I said, he worked there, and

1078
00:58:44.599 --> 00:58:48.599
he was relaying to me that it's don't never say

1079
00:58:48.639 --> 00:58:51.480
never on that thing, because it may eventually come out,

1080
00:58:51.639 --> 00:58:54.960
and when it does, it'll blow the roof off, because

1081
00:58:54.960 --> 00:58:57.719
this is this tape was and if you remember, this

1082
00:58:57.760 --> 00:59:00.360
is like what early few thousands, I believe maybe even

1083
00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:03.199
before that. Maybe I remember seeing it on the news

1084
00:59:03.400 --> 00:59:07.159
very briefly, and I remember they mentioned it here in Oklahoma,

1085
00:59:08.199 --> 00:59:11.119
and that has been a thing that I have been

1086
00:59:11.239 --> 00:59:13.360
trying to get to the bottom of, and I've been

1087
00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:17.840
asking people basically since I heard about it, and like

1088
00:59:17.880 --> 00:59:19.320
I said, they said one of the like I said,

1089
00:59:19.320 --> 00:59:21.039
I heard that one of the managers went to the

1090
00:59:21.079 --> 00:59:23.639
news station and that's how it got out and then

1091
00:59:23.679 --> 00:59:27.920
they had to quickly reel it in and things like that.

1092
00:59:28.639 --> 00:59:32.719
So if anybody has heard anything about this videotape and

1093
00:59:32.800 --> 00:59:34.960
about this casino, I'm not going to mention the casino

1094
00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:36.840
because I don't want, you know, anyone to get in

1095
00:59:36.840 --> 00:59:40.000
trouble for defamation anything like that. But everything, like I said,

1096
00:59:40.039 --> 00:59:42.400
everything from the point that I mentioned the casino sid

1097
00:59:42.480 --> 00:59:46.760
right now, it's all legit. But if you know anything,

1098
00:59:46.840 --> 00:59:49.719
or you heard anything, or somebody that knows somebody, let

1099
00:59:49.760 --> 00:59:51.119
me know, because I said, I've been trying to get

1100
00:59:51.159 --> 00:59:52.880
to the bottom of this and this is a mystery

1101
00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:53.840
that I would like to crack.

1102
00:59:55.159 --> 00:59:59.360
Dude, I'm loving it. I love when people dig deep

1103
00:59:59.440 --> 01:00:02.559
into their state mysteries about Bigfoot. I think that was

1104
01:00:02.599 --> 01:00:04.800
back in two thousand and two or something around around

1105
01:00:04.840 --> 01:00:08.599
there a lleged incident with the casino and the and

1106
01:00:08.639 --> 01:00:12.639
the missing footage. It's just a fascinating story. And yes, listeners,

1107
01:00:12.679 --> 01:00:14.519
if reach out to Yohola please.

1108
01:00:14.679 --> 01:00:16.840
I didn't even mention what was on the tape either.

1109
01:00:17.000 --> 01:00:20.840
I'm sorry. So they so there was two different things

1110
01:00:20.840 --> 01:00:23.519
that I was told from like I said, multiple people,

1111
01:00:24.079 --> 01:00:27.599
is that they got a full shot of this thing,

1112
01:00:29.039 --> 01:00:34.239
a full shot like a clear cut this is bigfoot.

1113
01:00:35.639 --> 01:00:38.639
Then I also heard that all they could see, you know,

1114
01:00:38.679 --> 01:00:40.559
from someone else, said that they all they could see

1115
01:00:40.599 --> 01:00:43.239
was an arm or they can basically, this thing was

1116
01:00:43.320 --> 01:00:46.800
eating the grease out of this trap and it was

1117
01:00:46.840 --> 01:00:48.679
eating whatever was in that bit.

1118
01:00:48.800 --> 01:00:49.519
That's what I've heard.

1119
01:00:49.599 --> 01:00:53.039
Yeah, And the one that I think I believe is

1120
01:00:53.079 --> 01:00:56.559
I think they've seen the whole thing. That's the story

1121
01:00:56.559 --> 01:00:59.840
that I think that I believe is that they found

1122
01:00:59.840 --> 01:01:02.880
that full the full video. The person that I talked

1123
01:01:02.880 --> 01:01:04.480
to said he's seen it, and he said it was

1124
01:01:04.840 --> 01:01:07.559
He said that he's a will never be able to read.

1125
01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:10.159
There's no footage out there that's going to be able

1126
01:01:10.199 --> 01:01:13.599
to prove the existence of this thing, but that video

1127
01:01:13.679 --> 01:01:14.880
will is what he told me.

1128
01:01:15.360 --> 01:01:18.440
He's so, he's, holy mackrel, have you recorded an interview

1129
01:01:18.480 --> 01:01:19.000
with this guy?

1130
01:01:19.679 --> 01:01:24.679
So it's all not he may eventually do it. He's

1131
01:01:24.719 --> 01:01:28.719
an older guy. He's an older gentleman. He's he's he's

1132
01:01:28.760 --> 01:01:31.840
aged a lot. I'll say, yeah, he currently lives in

1133
01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:35.679
a different country. And so he eventually he told me,

1134
01:01:35.679 --> 01:01:38.840
he said, I'm going to build up the nerve and

1135
01:01:38.880 --> 01:01:40.679
he said he may talk about it, but he has

1136
01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:44.400
a lot of other stories about Canada dog Man, and

1137
01:01:44.440 --> 01:01:46.920
he's got all types of other stories that that he

1138
01:01:47.039 --> 01:01:51.679
shared with me. And but yeah, you never know, guys,

1139
01:01:52.519 --> 01:01:53.039
you never know.

1140
01:01:53.519 --> 01:01:55.960
Those are the guys you need. Man, that's an interview

1141
01:01:56.039 --> 01:01:56.440
right there.

1142
01:01:56.480 --> 01:01:56.679
Man.

1143
01:01:56.880 --> 01:01:59.920
Hopefully you can get that, get a great relationship with

1144
01:02:00.039 --> 01:02:02.880
that gentlemen and be able to interview him. But man,

1145
01:02:03.039 --> 01:02:06.840
I love talking to individuals like that. Well, Man, I'd

1146
01:02:06.840 --> 01:02:09.920
be exciting to see if something happens from this in

1147
01:02:09.960 --> 01:02:13.840
the future and maybe that video will will one day

1148
01:02:14.280 --> 01:02:15.079
show up again.

1149
01:02:15.519 --> 01:02:19.039
Be incredible, Yeah, it would be. Oh.

1150
01:02:19.119 --> 01:02:21.199
I love a good mystery and that's a good mystery.

1151
01:02:21.400 --> 01:02:24.480
Thank you for bringing that up at the end, Yo,

1152
01:02:24.519 --> 01:02:25.679
hol this has been a good time.

1153
01:02:25.719 --> 01:02:25.960
Man.

1154
01:02:26.119 --> 01:02:30.679
Did you have any other closing thoughts before before we

1155
01:02:31.280 --> 01:02:32.880
start to end out this episode.

1156
01:02:33.360 --> 01:02:35.760
Yeah, I just appreciate you you having me on, and

1157
01:02:35.800 --> 01:02:37.719
like I said, this a lot of the lot of

1158
01:02:37.719 --> 01:02:40.159
everything that I have talked about or to me is

1159
01:02:40.519 --> 01:02:43.639
it's all very interesting to me and it's very intriguing,

1160
01:02:44.239 --> 01:02:46.000
And like I said, I appreciate you having me on,

1161
01:02:46.119 --> 01:02:47.679
and hopefully we can do this again sometime.

1162
01:02:48.960 --> 01:02:51.920
Absolutely, thanks for coming on. Please take a minute to

1163
01:02:51.960 --> 01:02:56.119
help out the show by subscribing on YouTube, making sure

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to the following, or know someone who has, please reach

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out to me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com

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had any encounters in Oregon, which I'm sure there's probably

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a few of you out there, please feel free to

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I'll see you there, and again, thanks for listening.

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Her and I can get on here. We can tell

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our stories.

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Maybe there's somebody else out there listening that's too afraid

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to tell their story. Maybe this will give them the

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courage to come out. And now I feel so bad

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about it. Who cares what anybody thinks. I know what

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I saw, I know what's up there. That's all I

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care about.

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Please let people know, Please let them know.

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If you ever see.

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One of these things, you need to tell, because if

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you don't, then shame on you. You have shame on you.