Bigfoot of Bluff Creek with Tod Samples and Doug Chez (Member's Only)

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Welcome back to a Big Fat Society. You're about to hear a special ten

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minute teaser of today's members only episode
for Patreon supporters and YouTube channel members.

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I welcome back Todd Samples and Doug
Shay from episode two sixty nine. We

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talk about their current research in the
Bluff Creek area and also Doug's class a

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sighting that happened earlier a few months
back. You won't want to miss this

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one. I consider becoming a supporter. Thank you. All right, Big

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for Society got the privilege of talking
to Todd Samples and Doug Shay tonight.

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I talked to him about a year
a year and a half ago. They're

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bigfoot researchers out there on the West
coast of the US. But how are

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we doing tonight, guys? Very
good, very good. Yeah, it's

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been a good night. It's supposed
to rain tomorrow, but overall it's been

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great, perfect. You know,
I'm excited to talk to you. I've

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heard a little bit about what you
guys have been up to, but I'm

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going to go ahead and give the
floor right over to you guys, and

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you can work it out how you
would like. Since I got the both

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of you here, but yeah,
feel free to share what kind of things,

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exciting things you've been up to in
the last time since we talked.

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Well, we had a chance to
go up to the squadh Fest back in

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January. We were to talk to
Matt poor Cliff Berkman. But before we

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went, the day of the day
before squad Fest, we had gone squatching

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in Oregon and that was a pretty
good We had a siding the class as

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hiding Doug and Carrie. Actually I
actually didn't see it, but I was

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there. Yeah, And during the
whole course of the summer we have been

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going up into the Bluff Creek area. There's also another area east of Orleans

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we've been going into and had some
interesting experiences. After our original discussion with

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you about the snow prints and then
later having discussions with Cliff, and he

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really recommended we start casting prints.
So we've been doing that and we've gotten

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some really nice prints. We're up
to six now. We tried one method

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where you use the spray foam it's
not real effective, but plaster paris we've

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been using and so interestingly, several
of these prints are in the same area

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where we found those snow prints.
So we know we're onto something in that

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area. We've had broken branches off
trees, we've had tree knocks in the

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area. We even found what looked
like a cave. Went back two weeks

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later and found that a tree had
been broken and the entrance was covered,

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even though no humans had been there
since we were last there. That was

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back in November. So it's been
really good. We're just definitely liking the

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fact that we seemed to be in
a really hot spot right now. We

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also got to talk with Tate during
the summer, so that was nice,

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and Jonathan Easley, they came in
talked with us at when we were at

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Laos Camp and this last summer,
so that was fun too. And we

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done some research going up into December
of twenty twenty three. We had an

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early snow, couldn't get very far
and then later it all melted and we

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actually made it miles past where we
had found those prints. But just recent

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we had some cold weather and yesterday, as a matter of fact, we

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were looking in another area that's called
the Right Place and we found some we

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cast a footprint, had some really
interesting activity as well as tried to get

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up to a mile ten and we
couldn't make it in our four wheel drive.

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We had to walk a quarter of
a mile to get there. But

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no footprints this year so far.
There anyway in the snow. Now the

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castings that you took near where the
snow prints had been found, are they

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so are those in similar size to
the ones you had found, or do

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you think it could be the same
individual or what are your thoughts as to

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what might be going on there?
Yeah, we found two prints or too.

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We casted two prints, one in
the in a little meadow that we

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camped out and in one up by
a place up by the mountain, and

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they were both the same side thirteen
by by six as the snowprints, So

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we assume it's the same same creature. Yeah. And what's interesting about that

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is one was on a hill and
we had taken it to the NABC,

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you know museum that clip has,
and they looked at those prints and they

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go, that is a squatch.
You could see the meta tarsal break in

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it. And it's so it's kind
of exciting to think that there is there's

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a big foot in that area that
is staying in the area. And the

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one we found yesterday was bigger though
the one at Right's place. It's fifteen

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inches. So wow, So that's
pretty exciting. So I'll ask and yeah,

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up to you if you want to
answer. But is the right place

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in a similar area as to the
snow tracks or is it totally separate area

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completely? Well, it's similar as
far as probably the elevation. It's not

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the same elevation, i'd say,
or prey closed, but it's probably five

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or six miles away, but it's
on the other side. No, it's

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it's on the same side as Bluff
Creek, right, Yeah, just the

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uh the snowprinter found on the on
the go road. Bright's Place is off

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of Slake Creek Road, so it's
it's a few miles away. In fact,

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Lake Creek Road and the right places
where Tate and Jonathan they were gonna

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do the Bluff Creek hike. That
was gonna be the resupply spot. The

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gate's locked right now, so we
had to hike quite it's about a little

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over three miles I think to the
bottom. We didn't quite make it to

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the bottom, but quite a steep
hike out, but the gate was locked.

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But we started walking down there and
we had some good activity. Todd

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had some tree knocks because he waited
back, we had found this one spot

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where we found a huge pile of
scott and several prints in the area.

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We decided to cast one and it
came out really nice. So then another

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person in the party, Caesar Caesar
Sandoval, one of our friends that squatches

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with us a lot, factis,
actually had two sightings. We walked down

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further and we didn't hear a whole
lot, but Todd, we had walkie

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talkies, were starting to get a
little bit more proficient, and he starts

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saying that he was hearing stuff around
him since we left him. But on

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the way back, we found another
pile of that same type of scat that

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hadn't been there when we hiked down. It was that fresh. So it

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it came we came to the conclusion
that that we were being watched and they

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were doing something, so that that's
pretty exciting. So I just I want

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to make sure I have a few
things right, so because I can kind

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of picture of the map in my
head a bit, So the area where

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they were going to have the first
pretty much if they had kept going on

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their hike, they would have gone
into an extremely squatchy area, which is

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what I can get from that.
But they didn't make it because well,

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the rapids were pretty dang treacherous.
As listeners probably will remember, that's ironic.

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Wow, yeah, But in fact, if you see the rapids right

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now because it's spring, oh my
goodness, Creek is just pure rapids,

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just whitewater. Fact, they're repairing
the bridge right now, so it's kind

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of amazing to just think that.
And what's amazing too is Fish Lake,

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which is up of Bluff Creek Road, is just literally across Bluff Creek,

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so and it's not far from another
famous place called Twin Lakes, but right

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now you can't get much past Rights
Place. We tried to go up the

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hill there further and ran into snow
because we were thinking, oh wow,

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it's pretty melted. Let's try to
get up to Cedar Camp. And we

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went about two miles past Wright's Place
up the hill and ran into huge amounts

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of snow. So that turned us
back, and then we went to the

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go road and found the same issue. Was there a certain reason that you

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had chosen that area as a new
research area, maybe things you had heard

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from other people or different types of
research you've done by yourself. Well,

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we've seen a video that I think
Tate did his some of his extra footage

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and they were down at Rice Place, and we figured, well, it's

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