Bigfoot of Bluff Creek with Tod Samples and Doug Chez (Member's Only)

0:00 Welcome back to a Big Fat Society. You're about to hear a special ten minute teaser of today's members only episode for Patreon supporters and YouTube channel members. I welcome back Todd Samples and Doug Shay from episode two sixty nine. We talk about their current research in the Bluff Creek area and also Doug's class a sighting that happened earlier a few months back. You won't want to miss this one. I consider becoming a supporter. Thank you. All right, Big for Society got the privilege of talking to Todd Samples and Doug Shay tonight. I talked to him about a year a year and a half ago. They're bigfoot researchers out there on the West coast of the US. But how are we doing tonight, guys? Very good, very good. Yeah, it's been a good night. It's supposed to rain tomorrow, but overall it's been great, perfect. You know, I'm excited to talk to you. I've heard a little bit about what you guys have been up to, but I'm going to go ahead and give the floor right over to you guys, and you can work it out how you would like. Since I got the both of you here, but yeah, feel free to share what kind of things, exciting things you've been up to in the last time since we talked.

1:21 Well, we had a chance to go up to the squadh Fest back in January. We were to talk to Matt poor Cliff Berkman. But before we went, the day of the day before squad Fest, we had gone squatching in Oregon and that was a pretty good We had a siding the class as hiding Doug and Carrie. Actually I actually didn't see it, but I was there. Yeah, And during the whole course of the summer we have been going up into the Bluff Creek area. There's also another area east of Orleans we've been going into and had some interesting experiences. After our original discussion with you about the snow prints and then later having discussions with Cliff, and he really recommended we start casting prints. So we've been doing that and we've gotten some really nice prints. We're up to six now. We tried one method where you use the spray foam it's not real effective, but plaster paris we've been using and so interestingly, several of these prints are in the same area where we found those snow prints. So we know we're onto something in that

2:53 area. We've had broken branches off trees, we've had tree knocks in the area. We even found what looked like a cave. Went back two weeks later and found that a tree had been broken and the entrance was covered, even though no humans had been there since we were last there. That was back in November. So it's been really good. We're just definitely liking the fact that we seemed to be in a really hot spot right now. We also got to talk with Tate during the summer, so that was nice, and Jonathan Easley, they came in talked with us at when we were at Laos Camp and this last summer, so that was fun too. And we done some research going up into December of twenty twenty three. We had an early snow, couldn't get very far and then later it all melted and we actually made it miles past where we had found those prints. But just recent we had some cold weather and yesterday, as a matter of fact, we were looking in another area that's called the Right Place and we found some we cast a footprint, had some really interesting activity as well as tried to get up to a mile ten and we couldn't make it in our four wheel drive.

4:19 We had to walk a quarter of a mile to get there. But no footprints this year so far. There anyway in the snow. Now the castings that you took near where the snow prints had been found, are they so are those in similar size to the ones you had found, or do you think it could be the same individual or what are your thoughts as to what might be going on there? Yeah, we found two prints or too. We casted two prints, one in the in a little meadow that we camped out and in one up by a place up by the mountain, and they were both the same side thirteen by by six as the snowprints, So we assume it's the same same creature. Yeah. And what's interesting about that is one was on a hill and we had taken it to the NABC, you know museum that clip has, and they looked at those prints and they go, that is a squatch. You could see the meta tarsal break in it. And it's so it's kind of exciting to think that there is there's a big foot in that area that is staying in the area. And the one we found yesterday was bigger though the one at Right's place. It's fifteen inches. So wow, So that's pretty exciting. So I'll ask and yeah,

5:58 up to you if you want to answer. But is the right place in a similar area as to the snow tracks or is it totally separate area completely? Well, it's similar as far as probably the elevation. It's not the same elevation, i'd say, or prey closed, but it's probably five or six miles away, but it's on the other side. No, it's it's on the same side as Bluff Creek, right, Yeah, just the uh the snowprinter found on the on the go road. Bright's Place is off of Slake Creek Road, so it's it's a few miles away. In fact, Lake Creek Road and the right places where Tate and Jonathan they were gonna do the Bluff Creek hike. That was gonna be the resupply spot. The gate's locked right now, so we had to hike quite it's about a little over three miles I think to the bottom. We didn't quite make it to the bottom, but quite a steep hike out, but the gate was locked.

7:14 But we started walking down there and we had some good activity. Todd had some tree knocks because he waited back, we had found this one spot where we found a huge pile of scott and several prints in the area. We decided to cast one and it came out really nice. So then another person in the party, Caesar Caesar Sandoval, one of our friends that squatches with us a lot, factis, actually had two sightings. We walked down further and we didn't hear a whole lot, but Todd, we had walkie talkies, were starting to get a little bit more proficient, and he starts saying that he was hearing stuff around him since we left him. But on the way back, we found another pile of that same type of scat that hadn't been there when we hiked down. It was that fresh. So it it came we came to the conclusion that that we were being watched and they were doing something, so that that's pretty exciting. So I just I want to make sure I have a few things right, so because I can kind of picture of the map in my head a bit, So the area where they were going to have the first pretty much if they had kept going on their hike, they would have gone into an extremely squatchy area, which is what I can get from that. But they didn't make it because well, the rapids were pretty dang treacherous. As listeners probably will remember, that's ironic.

8:50 Wow, yeah, But in fact, if you see the rapids right now because it's spring, oh my goodness, Creek is just pure rapids, just whitewater. Fact, they're repairing the bridge right now, so it's kind of amazing to just think that. And what's amazing too is Fish Lake, which is up of Bluff Creek Road, is just literally across Bluff Creek, so and it's not far from another famous place called Twin Lakes, but right now you can't get much past Rights Place. We tried to go up the hill there further and ran into snow because we were thinking, oh wow, it's pretty melted. Let's try to get up to Cedar Camp. And we went about two miles past Wright's Place up the hill and ran into huge amounts of snow. So that turned us back, and then we went to the go road and found the same issue. Was there a certain reason that you had chosen that area as a new research area, maybe things you had heard from other people or different types of research you've done by yourself. Well, we've seen a video that I think Tate did his some of his extra footage and they were down at Rice Place, and we figured, well, it's winter time, but maybe we can get down there. Big for Society is now actively pursuing the next step of becoming a full time podcast. In order

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