Bigfoot of the Driftless with the Midnight Squatchers

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All right, Big Fort Society.
We've got the privilege of talking to

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John in April tonight from Midnight Squatchers
up there in Minnesota. How are you

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doing tonight, guys? Great?
How are you doing, Jeremiah oh Man

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doing good? I've always wanted to
talk to you guys. I mean,

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we've chatted for a little bit down
in the Van Meter Visitor Festival down in

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Van Meter, Iowa, and I
kind of get to chat with you guys

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for a bit. But I've never
gotten the chance to actually sit down and

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talk with you. So I'm glad
we were able to finally make this happen

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tonight. But John and Able,
do you mind sharing a little bit about

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yourselves, how you got into the
Bigfoot game and all that good stuff.

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Sure? Yeah, and I wish
we had more time on some of these

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events. I get it personally,
I'll go ahead and start. I've been

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into the big Foot phenomena, anything
that goes blump in the night. You

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know, I grew up around the
creature feature scene on the West Coast.

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I'm from Monterey Bay Area's Haena Cruz
to be exact, and I've always been

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fascinated. My mom was a big
reader in the Fate magazines, which I

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wish I had all five boxes of
them. Now, I didn't know they

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were worth so much, but I
used to love them magazines and i'd read

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them a little bit, watch all
these horror flicks. You know. I

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was born in mid sixties, so
I was always fascinated by that. And

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what really got me was around seven
years old, I've seen apparitions, you

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know, you know, a ghost, so spook the heck out of me.

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But that kind of made me start
drifting in this. You know,

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maybe Nasty is real, maybe this
bigfoot lower is real. I mean,

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I come from the northern California part
the mecca of reports up there, so

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that kind of got me interested in
UFOs. I'm still interested in all that.

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You know, everything that goes bumping
the night. Bigfoot is my fourteen

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that's what I really emphasize on.
But yeah, that's kind of what got

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me started. And you know,
ever since probably the you know, late

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seventies, early eighties, I'd get
out in the woods a lot and started

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really venturing around to see what I
could find. But I wish I knew

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what I did now. First of
all, I didn't know then I should

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say, because boy, I'll tell
you there's probably a lot of stuff I

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missed over the years. So just
just to make sure that I get that.

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So you were starting to look for
a bigfoot in the late seventies and

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eighties, Yeah, we would go
I was a teenager, I was fourteen

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fifteen. I would be out in
the woods and I'd always look for footprints

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or we were always out. We
had a levee that came down with trees

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that went all the way out to
the ocean and ventured up to my dad's

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friends ranch was six thousand acres,
so we roamed them, apple orchards all

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the place. So we had roamed
them a lot and ride our bikes and

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you know, when we get a
chance, we'd go up to the mountains

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and you know, we'd camp out
and we'd venture down the trails and see

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what we could see. So I
was always interested in it, but mainly

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back then known as another tree structure. I mean, you know, structures,

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footprints and visual that's basically all that
really developed in my mind too.

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But yeah, so we were out, you know, out and about since

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early age, just looking around,
hunting, fishing. But it wasn't until

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the I would say early eighties to
mid eighties when I really started really venturing

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out, you know how a vehicle
so I can you know, I'm not

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on a bike and we're on two
wheels on the four so you can get

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out and venture up and down the
state and different places where you want to

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get out and really look, you
know, I mean it's a big state.

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California is huge. Wow, that's
that's fascinating. April. What's what's

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your story? How do you uh, how did you get into the whole

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Bigfoot thing there. Well, I
always was in the outdoors when I was

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a kid and stuff, and my
grandma always tell me never go in the

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woods at night because there's a hoofy
man, bigfoot whatever, So don't go

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out there at night. Well,
my kid would always roam, you know,

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the acres we had, we had
five acres, and we were always

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on about and and you know things
would you know, you'd hear things and

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stuff. But I knew he existed, but I never saw one till later

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down the road. And when I
really saw one, I was like wow,

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you know, I was, and
I was into like seeing ghosts and

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stuff. I've seen a lot of
stuff like that before, but I like

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Bigfoot. I mean it's interesting.
And I didn't tell anybody about it until

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I met him. Oh intro Okay, And when you were talking about the

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earlier life, what state was that? April? Minnesota? I'm born and

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bred here. Awesome. Yeah,
So, John, what was the first

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time that you had a that you
think you got relatively close or the first

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the first interaction with Bigfoot that really
sticks out in your mind. I guess,

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Well, if you're looking for a
visual, because I've had two of

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them. An actual class a sighting
that on happens in the mid nineties.

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But in the eighties, I've heard
many screams in the woods, found some

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strange structures that you know, looked
tp ish that I really dismissed because it

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wasn't really in the structures, have
seen footprints, heard some loud howls.

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I've heard him something similar to the
Ohio how like that long drowned out steady,

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not no up and down on the
vocals, just a straight steady like

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moan in the distance. Again,
I just in the eighties, I wasn't.

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It really didn't stick in my mind
like it does now. I just

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really didn't know enough. But the
one in the nineties when it really started

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coming together for me. In the
nineties is when I've had a lot of

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interaction, I think, because I
really feel it was. Those were time

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that we went camping after I heard
that moan, and we had been in

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this area after we found this teepee
structure, and I've seen some light footprints

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that were pretty big. I mean
they were huge. I didn't take no

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pictures. We had the old phones
back then, and it didn't exist.

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You know, he had a one
ten camera pocket which if I carried once

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in a while, which I didn't
have at the time, that stuck out.

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You know. It was about fourteen
inches real deep in the ground,

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very deep, but two and three
quarter inches, and it was a real

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heavy footprint, and there was two
or three of them. They went across

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this trail and then went up towards
to the tree line in the redwood's there,

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which I didn't have. No I
thought it might be a big foot

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but I really didn't, you know, I'm like, you know, it

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just thought through us something. Probably
I just missed it. I just yeah,

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it could be, but you know, who cares. In the mid

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nineties, I just kind of threw
off the side. And the mid nineties

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when I was there with my ex
wife where it's beautiful. When you come

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down from Gilroy, it's called Mount
Madonna and you come over the top of

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the mountain and as you come around, there's little pull offs. I don't

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know how they are now, they
might be blocked up, but back then

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you can pull up your car,
you know, a little hundred foot pull

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offs and you can see the lights
of Monterey based Santa Cruz, the coast,

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and we'd love to go cruising the
red Woods. You knew I was

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in the Bigfoot, and we'd love
to just go out and on the way

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down we'd park and hang out.
One night, we were sitting out there

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and we had just pulled off to
the pool off. We weren't there maybe

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five minus, and it's turned the
radio on low in our car rolled I

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was in a roll down the window
and we were just chit chatting for a

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roll down the window and we were
looking off the beautiful lights, and all

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of a sudden, I heard this
boom against my driver's side window, and

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it startled me because you know,
I run Smoky Robinson, something mellow,

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you know, cruising together, and
then you hear this boom and I looked

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and there was a dirt mark on
my pet on my driver's side window where

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something had hit and broke open.
And I realized it later it was a

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dirt clod. There was a bot
big Round's grapefruit and startled me. And

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she looked at me and he goes, what the heck was that? And

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I go, someone's got to be
messing with us, you know. So

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I opened the door. I go, who's out there? You know?

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There was nobody out there. It's
just a little road that turns around the

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corner with a mountain b a little
fifty foot cliff. There's a mount behind

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us. Mountain goes down and when
I looked, I heard some rattling up

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on the hill about fifty feet up
it goes. This road goes around like

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a U. So there's a little
pool off on this side, and you

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see that my little fifty foot hills
grass. There's some trees up there,

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and there's redwoods, but there was
a pine tree that was moving, and

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you can see the gravel kind of
trickling down towards the road. So something

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had been up there. What I
right away I thought bigfoot. You know,

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it's the only thing who could throw
this. It was about mid night,

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twelve thirty at night. It wasn't
real late, but it was late,

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not a late nighter. That's why
I call them midnight squads. But

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anyway, I got out and I
said something was had to be up to

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because the bushes moving, and I
was leaning down talking and told them.

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But then I go that didn't make
any sense to my mind, because how

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can you throw a dirt clod straight
down and then turned like a U L

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shape? And hit my window.
At that point, I looked up and

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I had that uneasy feeling, you
know, we all have that instinct,

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that gut feeling, and I had
a feeling of something or that dirt clot

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that came because there was a little
barrier there. Some people want to go

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off, you know, and go
over into the over the hill overlooking the

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bay area. There there's a lot
of pine trees and shrubs in that area.

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And it felt like something was watching
me, like you get that uneasy

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feeling, and I couldn't shake it, and I told her, I think

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we better go, which we did. But I did see the dirt clod

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when before all this happened. The
dirt cloud was on the ground and it

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was broken three pieces, and it
was a hard dirt clod like you'd see

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in a field after it ride.
But something had all on that and hit

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the window and it startled us.
And I believe something was there because there

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must have been if there, if
it was Bigfoot related, if it wasn't

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bigfoot, which I think it could
have been, there had to be one

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that threw that at us to get
our attention, and then there had to

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be one on the top of this
little hill there overlooking us, kind of

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watching out. But that that startled
me and I still to this day,

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I can't say it was or it
wasn't, but uh, you know,

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who knows. And that was about
the mid nineties because we had just I

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just met my first wife. Later
on, this would be ninety seven.

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If you fast forward, I'll go
to another incident. And this is where

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I had my class aave. We
were I had a friend with me,

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George, and we were cruising around, you know, and we'd go way

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up and we had Loma Prieda is
up on our mountains at Tankers Mountains is

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a big range there but longer sits
on and we would go up a lot

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of roads and you can, you
know, get all the way up to

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the top and there's nobody up there. And I had my glass business called

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John's Otto Glass, so I had
my point to pick up and had a

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slider. Once we got up there, had you know, throw couple beers

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in the bag and we pull over
and have a beer here and there and

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half about one or two bo going
down the road and just kind of have

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a good time, just get out
and just relax. And we had been

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up there about two hours. So
on the way back down, we were

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coming down towards the mounta Madonna,
where I camp a lot and where I've

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had Luod, not just me,
but heard from other people where they've had

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seen some of these creatures up in
that area. We were coming back down

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the backside. It's a windy road. It's desolate, dark, scary at

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night. I mean it's just dark. It's a little one lane road,

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so someone's coming, you got to
back up until you get enough room to

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pull over in some spot. So
it's very narrow and it winds around just

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like a snake all around there and
curves. We were coming about halfway down

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the mountain. It was probably about
two in the morning morn, and we've

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both had to relieve ourselves. So
we pulled over and there was a little

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there's a lot of red dark.
But around this corner where we stopped,

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we had pulled up just a little
bit further now about fifty feet there was

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a little clearing and it was a
bright moon that night. I never forget

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that night, and you can see
the moonlight trickling down through the red woods.

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There. It's a little clearing where
it wasn't so thick and we went

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to go to the side of the
hill there and you are, you know,

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duty my friend's time about ten feet
from me, no alson. I've

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seen him look up and this kind
of stutter and he points up like that

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and straight up to young going my
nicknames Jad's going and I go, what's

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wrong with you? You know?
And he points a look up And that's

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when I've seen and Bigfoot Times wrote
about this, Danny Press. It would

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look like a nine foot tall out
back lit Harry creature. What got me?

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And I always say this in all
the podcasts that I've been doing on

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different ones. The shoulder with the
shoulders were just huge, four foot easy

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and just massive. I can only
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whatever it was was staring right back
at us and you all you could see

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is the outline. But it was
huge. And I tell everybody my dad,

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you know, he knew a lot
of promoters take us a lot of

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the wrestling matches. I've met Andrea
the Giant, I've met Rocks, Dad,

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Rocky Johnson, Peter my vee Is. I mean, I've probably have

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seen the rock and there Andrea Giant
put his hand over my head and go

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Little Montoya, and you know here
I am eight years old, and I

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was being ah when I look at
when I looked at this creature or whatever

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it may be, you know,
I still we still know what they are.

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I have a lot of theories on
that. It just didn't make any

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sense. Nothing on earth could be
that big that we're taught in our brain,

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you know, and our heads.
It just you can't conceive that up

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here. It just don't make any
sense. And the arms massive. I

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did a silhouette where I cut it, and it doesn't even look nothing like

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it. And this thing's three foot
I made a cardboard cut out of it.

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It's similar, but no, there
was no really head. It just

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look at a bump with shoulders.
I mean, it was just massive.

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And this all happened fifteen twenty seconds, but it felt like eternity when you

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look into this thing. I had
pulled over and had a button. And

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I tell this in all the podcast, about a quarter of my beer left

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you. We're gonna have a beer
and sit there for a minute before we

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went down the hill. And I
don't know what why I did this,

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don't ask me to this day.
I don't know. I was freaked out,

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don't it. Just I looked at
it, I go hey, and

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I threw my beer bottle up at
it. Why I don't know, And

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it went about ten feet it's up
to you, and it clinked around a

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little bit, and this thing started
swaying back and forth in a deep guttural

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grunt. That's when I turned around
and I telled it right into the truck

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and we couldn't go more than fifteen
twenty miles and our axe and I got

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out of there. You know,
I don't know what it was doing there,

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And I have theories about that.
Maybe it was I interrupted its meal.

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Maybe it was chasing a deer.
Maybe we just came across it and

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it just happened to be there and
it didn't like that. But me thawing

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that bottle up at it, I
think really got under its skin. It

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did not like that. But when
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Then I threw the beer bottle and
it just froze. It felt like

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it was walking towards me at that
point, coming down the hill. I

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don't know. I heard crunching.
I allogy. I was so terrified.

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Just it just didn't make and still
I think about it, it doesn't make

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any sense, you know. I
believe that they're out there. I know

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they're out there, but what they
are I don't know. I don't know.

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But all I know is they're massive, and I would not want to

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be anywhere close to them if they're
not in a good mood. I'll tell

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you that. Because these things are
massive. I would I've been honey a

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lot if I had a gun on
when even shot of this thing, I

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would have just got out of there
and left it alone. There was massive.

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But that was in ninety seven and
I still to this day. I

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went down there twice after that and
looking around a little bit in the daytime.

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I will not go there at night
because there's mothing down some of these

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trees. It's just an old,
creepy road. If I if I brought

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you out there, you would if
I took you there at night, you

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probably have second thoughts. It's really
so. I took aeple out there and

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twenty eighteen. We go out there
once a year every year, but have

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long issues. So in COVID hit
we didn't go out there for a couple

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of years. Excuse me, but
I've been out there in a rental car

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and try to get down that area. I go around the surrounding area,

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but when I want to go down
that road, it's I don't know if

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you want to call it ptsdal what
everyone called. I cannot get myself to

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go down that road at night.
I can't go anywhere around the United States,

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but where I've seen this thing,
I cannot get myself to go down

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that road. I tried. I
get two car links and I'd spin around.

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Once you get within about two hundred
feet down that road, it's it's

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hard to back up. You're pretty
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But that freaked me out. You
are you're stuck pretty much. You're you're

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going down there. You can get
Yeah, it's it's windy, you got

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it's it's a mountain, so you
got drop offs on each side. I

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mean you can navigate it backwards when
it'd be slow going. So one of

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these creatures came out. There's only
one way backwards or forwards. And if

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you have to go backwards, good
luck. Yeah, perfect perfect area for

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something to take you out if it
wanted to. For sure, guarantee it,

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guarantee it. That is that's a
wild sighting that you had there,

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John, And you saw a backlit
do you do you remember anything about like

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the shape of the head. It
didn't look and I watched bigfoot shows since

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the seventies, so it to me
it didn't look to conical it was.

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It just looked big. I mean, but it was if you looked at

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shoulders with a little bump like a
basketball size. But it's bigger than that,

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of course. But it was just
more of a roundish There was a

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head, but it was round more. It wasn't conical, it was more

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it was round. And uh again, it was dark, but you can

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definitely see that in the moonlit and
and you know you can see a little

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bit of toughs of hair because it
would look pretty good. But it was

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very dark, so it had I
don't know if it was dark brown,

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black, who knows, but it
it was huge. I know that you

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could see the arms from about the
forearm up and it was it was by

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a big fern and there's trees there. That's all I could say. Like

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I came back to you know,
next day a couple of times doing a

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lot of that. Two weeks after
that, there were some straw like ferns

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that grew up in the redwoods there, so that kind of blocked its view

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from the legs up. But uh, when I estimated that the height of

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it, it had to be every
bit of ninth foot it was big.

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Wow. The shoulders what got to
me to this day. The shoulders absolutely,

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I mean, yeah, it's something
that that, you know, four

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feet across at the shoulders, that's
wild. I can't imagine that sighting that

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you had. How did that affect
the future of your bigfoot research after that

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time? Well, of course I
was very intrigued about what these creatures are.

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Are they different? Are they are
part of one of the four homonic

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groups? Are a totally different one
you know altogether? Are they even from

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this world? I'm open minded,
very open minded to all theories. Of

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course, the most common theory,
the ones that makes sense to you,

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is it's part of the Great Bay
family. Were taught back in the day.

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I've came a long way since then, you know, That's all I

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ever thought back in the seventies and
eighties. I'm open to other theories.

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Now, I just don't know.
I do believe the government might have you

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know, probably does have some of
you know, have shot one of these

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things and probably knows about them.
I mean, you hear about all the

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time. I mean there's that pamphlet
that shows them up in the training pamphlet

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that actually mentions these creatures. Uh, you know, my dad was full

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budd at patche He. You know, the Indians, Native Americans they know

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about it, you know, so
they've been here a lot longer than us.

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Maybe you know, who knows.
There's a lot of theories. I

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was listening wrong morehead this point on
uh one of the talk shows in UIs.

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You know, it's going off about
some of the different theories. And

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I like his theories, and I
like everybody's theories. I just don't know.

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We just don't know, that's all
you say. We don't know that.

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That's that's a good way to put
it. You know, there's you

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have to pretty much just be open
to all the stuff because we haven't gotten

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to study one yet. And be
careful if you are saying that I'm not

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open to this or I'm not open
to this, because dude, you're you're

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putting yourself in a bad situation if
you're not. Just if you've got to

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consider all the stuff that's that's where
I am right now. You know,

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you're talking to all these different people, and it's like, who's to say

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it couldn't be this, or it
couldn't be this. You know, hopefully

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in our lifetime we'll figure it out. But you know, we'll see.

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So you have that sighting in California, and how do you then how do

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you get to where you are now? Where you're in the Midwest doing some

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really interesting bigfoot research out here.
Yeah, well I did have another siding

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as a road crossing not too far
from that area in California, so h

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and I can just do that briefly. We're just coming down the opposite side

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of the hill and I had my
kids playing in the back of the same

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pickup. He'll campus show and put
my windows ended up. I did autoglass

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mainly, but I did anything in
the glass trade. But uh, we

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were coming around the corner and I'll
go because I get a lot of different

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stuff talking about. And as we're
covering around the corner, we've noticed this

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black figure. Didn't it nothing?
It wasn't it looks compared to the other

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one I see it now. It's
tall. I probably was seven and a

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half football, maybe the most.
But it came down a steep hill.

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There was almost straight down. And
as we wor around this courner, and

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there's a lot of windy roads out
where I was born and raised, believe

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me, we caught this black figure. And then it went across and you

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can see the reddish hair coming up
with our long arms one step across the

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road, and that's about always seen
it. And it was gone over the

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hill by it went down about maybe
fifty feet down to a little creek,

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and then it went straight back up
another hill. It's very mountain in that

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area. And we stopped and my
second wife said, what the heck was

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that? A little boy he lived
with me, he came up with me

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to Minnesota. He still lives here. My oldest boy still in California,

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from my hometown there in Santa Cruz, Watsonville, so he had seen it.

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My oldest boy says he didn't see
nothing because he had his back turned

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to that area or something. But
he heard everybody, you know, he

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felt the truck stop and he's wondering
what's going on. And we had a

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little I was back when my youngest
boys seen it, and it looked like

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a dark but when we hit it
real quick with the lights as it came

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across and she's arm movement. There
was a little reddish in the light hint

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from the headlights, but it jumped. It just took one step across the

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road. These roads aren't very big. I mean they're really very narrow and

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launched over the edge. He again, maybe, I mean, I don't

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know. I got off the car
towards stops. She was not into that

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second wie. I said, no, no, no, you of course

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she can move. I got off
the car so she had to wait.

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I was in the passion side she
was driving and went around. Had a

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little flash I didn't work to I
was trying to shign it down. I

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couldn't watch see much, but it
just looked dark. When I went to

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look down that area in my flashlight
was very weak batter as you're dead,

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So I go and see maybe five
feet. I started getting this feeling again.

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That was like a toylet feeling like
I had before being wid but it

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was totally different. It was more
of a feeling like you get out of

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here now type of feeling like you
don't belong here. And what's weird about

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this sighting? Is I had this
buzzing in my head which I never had

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and never have after that. It
was like a not a ring, and

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it was like a buzzing feeling in
my head. Like I know we've talked

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and a lot of people have talked
about not we have a lot of people

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have talked about infrasound. I think
I get hit by some infrasound. And

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I've never felt that ever again in
my life, never before, just that

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one incident. But it felt like
something was throwing something off and I was

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kind of getting busy almost It was
just a buzzing, and I had a

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real uneasy feeling like if I stayed
there a second longer, it probably wouldn't

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have been good. So that gut
feeling that we all have, I backed

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off and got on the truck and
we got out of there. I did

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go back the next day, and
what I seen and I never forget it,

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was we just ad crossed this white
little picket bridge and so one lane.

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So the drain comes under that to
drain from the mountain, and there's

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a few houses scattered here and there
up on the hills, but there's no

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white picket fence, not going two
feet. I mean, it's this is

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an old road and so one lane, so if there's a car coming,

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you gotta wait till he comes by
and you go around. We just came

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around that corner I went in the
daytime and almost the exact spot. IM

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s, is it here? Is
it there? I got close to it,

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and sure enough, there was a
It looks like I got a footprint

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that was probably it was a half
print, maybe about five or six inches.

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It looked like the middle part where
it had hit and then pushed off,

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so you only got the middle part
of that, just kind of where

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it jumped. And what I did
see was there was no bushes or shrubs

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or any of that, weeds or
anything disturbed till about fifteen feet further there.

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It looked like a cow had rolled
down the hill there towards the creek.

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So this thing had to launch in
land and then make its way down

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the creek there and then probably went
back up. But you can see where

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it had been disturbed, you know, the bushes there. So that made

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me think, yeah, probably did
see what I see. But this one

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looked more almost like it was malnutrition, like it just wasn't eating. Well,

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maybe it was older. I don't
know, but I just got a

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glimpse of again, maybe a second, just a glimpse of it going across.

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And that area is known the BFRO
has some of their sidings there from

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the mountain down area where a lady
had seen one same vicinity where she had

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00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:41.920
came around the corner and she noticed
a figure walk and a harry figure walk

409
00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:45.039
on side of the road. And
there's always little drains creeks that go down

410
00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:48.960
around these mountain areas. And when
she told her husband, look, it

411
00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:52.200
had started off and went down towards
the creek there, you know, in

412
00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:56.599
the Redwoods. So there's a lot
of different stories in there. I have

413
00:27:56.680 --> 00:28:00.720
friends that told me they, uh, I've seen something rip out a tree

414
00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:03.960
and pick it up and carry it. And they don't they didn't see the

415
00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:07.279
figure, but they can see a
tree cracking and then it goes up in

416
00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:11.839
the air and it just starts being
carried. That's that's crazy. I mean,

417
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:18.200
I can't even imagine that. That's
superhuman strength. Oh yeah, how

418
00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:22.240
do you explain that away? I
mean, doesn't make any sense, no

419
00:28:22.279 --> 00:28:26.480
sense, Yeah, no, no, not at all. But I could

420
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:30.400
I could tell you a lot of
stories I've heard being born and raised on

421
00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:34.640
the West Coast, and I mean, I'd have to be here for hours,

422
00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:41.839
but I've I listened. I observed
Mike Rube from the Big Put Discovery

423
00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:45.440
Museum. I've talked to him several
times. And I remember last time we

424
00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:48.599
were there, I think it was
twenty eighteen, yeah, and he was

425
00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:53.880
showing me a jaw bones day had
found down there by the Santa Cruz Mountains

426
00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:59.559
and it was a picture that his
friend had found and brought it and showed

427
00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:03.160
him. But the sheriffs have got
word of it, and because and it

428
00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:07.400
looked three times larger, but it
looked human like. It looked it wasn't

429
00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:11.119
animal. It looked like a human
jaw bone about three times the size of

430
00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:15.079
ours, so extended. But he
said the sheriffs took it and they said

431
00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:18.359
they had to do some forensics on
it and it looks too human and they

432
00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:22.079
would return it later. Say never
got it back, but we've seen the

433
00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:30.720
picture of it, yes eighteen really
when he was yes, yes, yeah,

434
00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:33.680
and I've seen a picture of this. I wish I could have snapped

435
00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:37.240
the picture. I didn't even think
about it even I had, you know,

436
00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:41.000
nothing else we have now, but
it was crazy. It was you

437
00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:42.839
know, it was a decent size, you know, jaw bone. If

438
00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:48.480
you try to measure ours, just
imagine that, but twice maybe two and

439
00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:55.559
a half times larger. That's crazy. Well, yeah, I've never heard

440
00:29:55.559 --> 00:30:00.400
of that. That's really interesting.
Yeah, that's uh. You know,

441
00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:03.960
we've heard a lot of stories around
there, including a person that had shot

442
00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:08.039
at one of these and he has
a ranch. And I don't think the

443
00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:15.079
creature already like that in the middle
of the night came back through. I

444
00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:18.160
guess what do you think with the
bull they took the boy head and twisted

445
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:22.720
it off and through it as door
and early morning and you said you found

446
00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:27.880
that the bulls had sitting there torn
off and that that story it's not you

447
00:30:27.920 --> 00:30:32.440
know, I can't, it's just
a story. But if it's true,

448
00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:37.480
that's crazy. Well, you know, I've heard and I hear very of

449
00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:48.400
stories like that with a bears a
deer's head up in uh uh Wisconsin.

450
00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:53.559
Yeah, just recently. It's a
weird variation where kind of an animal's head

451
00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:57.720
is in play. And uh,
I don't know, man, yeah,

452
00:30:57.759 --> 00:31:02.319
I don't. I don't know what
would you know what the significant meaning that

453
00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:06.359
means? But I mean if you
from when I heard this thing was harassing

454
00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:07.599
his cattle. So he shot it. He's seen it in the middle and

455
00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:11.079
I could keep her and being disturbed. Yeah. Not too far from the

456
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:15.960
area in California was that this was
actually a hollister by the mountains three months

457
00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:21.759
speak and I guess this guy shot
at one and early morning. Her thump

458
00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:26.359
against his door. We opened it. There was the head of this you

459
00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:30.480
know, cattle or goal as I
twisted off me and April, not too

460
00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:37.640
far around here, took a report
here in Minnesota from two hunters, and

461
00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:40.720
we we researched that. We used
to fish there. We still do for

462
00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:45.079
the last I've been here twenty four
years. So I met April and oh

463
00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:48.000
three so, but twenty one years
ago we fished there and I fished there

464
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:52.799
Forever Pond. Now it's state run. But they had spotted something coming out

465
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:55.839
of the wood when they were hunting
over there. One day. They were

466
00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:59.640
asking me, bought my little bigfoot
sign on my little psionic guy little twister,

467
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:02.599
so I want to do bigfoot big
for researcher and this and that.

468
00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:07.079
But they had told me that when
they were honting they had seen something across

469
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:10.759
the meadows behind this pond come out
of the woodline. They got their scope

470
00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:13.920
of looking through it, and they
said they thought it was a bear,

471
00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:15.359
because once in a while I get
a bear down here in south of Minnesota

472
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:20.440
coming out and passing through. And
instead it wasn't a bear. It looked

473
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:23.920
like an ape or something that came
out of the woods and walked about twenty

474
00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:29.640
feet went back in. So I
told Apark, that's crazy. I still

475
00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:32.559
couldn't believe it. So we started
not just fishing there, started looking around

476
00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:37.400
the wooded areas there, and we
did find like a mossy type little structure

477
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:42.400
about twelve foot not very tall,
maybe four or five foot high, but

478
00:32:42.440 --> 00:32:45.480
it looked like a little structure like
something was laying under There. Was odd

479
00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:51.119
about this is we had found a
right by the creek there. We had

480
00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:57.920
found a dead raccoon, a deer
half eaten. The head was on it,

481
00:32:58.039 --> 00:33:00.000
the ribs are missing, the middle
part leg store on one leg was

482
00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:06.400
missing. And we found someone's pet, which is unfortunate as about a fifty

483
00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:10.440
pound dog when really chow chow black
all black chouchow dogs in the neck was

484
00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:17.119
twisted on it. So that really
peaked my mind and thinking I didn't like

485
00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:21.240
seenyone's pet, and I took a
picture of it. I don't even want

486
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:24.119
to show it anybody, but it
just didn't make any sense by this area,

487
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:29.640
you know, it's just by this
little structure we found. So we're

488
00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:34.319
keeping an eye down there, you
know, in that area. And it's

489
00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:37.799
not too far from where I live. I think they're closer to rural areas,

490
00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:43.079
and they use our rivers and streams
like highways like we do our highways.

491
00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:47.519
They travel them and you can go
on. Yeah, and it's it's

492
00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:55.680
because our rural areas keep going in, they keep moving out into their areas.

493
00:33:55.920 --> 00:34:00.720
That's what I think is going on. So as we go further out

494
00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:06.559
into the woods with our houses,
that's when the crazy stuff can happen.

495
00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:09.440
And even urban areas we live.
My town right here is clare Mont,

496
00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:13.840
Minesot. It's told you five and
fifty five and forty eight. Now two

497
00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:17.719
must have passed on. But it's
a small town at that and we got

498
00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:22.079
a little creaked about a mile out
this way. They knew Highway fourteen,

499
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:25.199
the old Highway fourteen. Year my
backyard is nothing but corn behind it.

500
00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:32.039
The old fourteen more more corn ponds
and then Rice Lake State Park. And

501
00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:37.280
so we're who knows what they do
even when the corns. I think creatures

502
00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:43.559
know it's there that they can,
they can wonder, They know when to

503
00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:49.000
be secluded and elude us. I
don't you know, I don't know if

504
00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:51.360
you want to call them creatures either. They could be a primitive human.

505
00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:53.119
They could be smarter or nuts for
all we know. I don't know,

506
00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:58.239
but I refer them to that because
my mind when I first seen one,

507
00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:00.440
that's what I thought. You know, it's something you thought in your childhood.

508
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:04.360
You see something like that, it's
it's like a monster, you know,

509
00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:07.639
it's not something that we know our
everyday lives. You don't see them.

510
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:09.360
You don't see Tobacca walking down the
road waving at you every day.

511
00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:15.559
So it just didn't make any sense, you know. So that's true.

512
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:20.679
Yeah, but yeah, So so
getting back to your question about you want

513
00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:27.239
to know about Minnesota. Yeah,
and in the so, when I moved

514
00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:30.719
up here, I kind of left
alone for a couple of years, just

515
00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:35.000
didn't really care. I met April
and O three. We had talked a

516
00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:37.679
lot, and after we got together
after a year, she told me about

517
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:45.079
her incident in Georgia, and and
you know, she had she had a

518
00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:49.079
near death experience or she was in
the back car incident, and she's seen

519
00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:52.719
some apparitions. So we really started
hitting it off. And we've been together

520
00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:58.280
a long time now, twenty one
years. But that's when I started saying,

521
00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:01.440
hey, we're you know, I'm
in the this bigfoot you know stuff,

522
00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:05.719
so let's just get out and uh
start venturing. And we have been.

523
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:09.320
So that kind of Pete Manchson got
got me back into my youngest boy.

524
00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:13.519
He's raising two kids, so it's
hard. He's into it. So

525
00:36:13.559 --> 00:36:16.119
he's like a part time squatch or
midnight squoncher, but maybe just me.

526
00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:20.400
In April, we go everywhere and
we pick up and hang out with different

527
00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:23.000
people along the way. And uh, and we got some part time researchers

528
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:24.880
to hang out with us, you
know, whenever they get time to come

529
00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:29.840
out with us. So but it's
just mainly us. But we That's what

530
00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:34.360
when I moved up here, I
really didn't think that Minnesota, believe it

531
00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:37.800
or not. I got yeah bigfoot
around here, but it's got to be

532
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:40.840
all up and down the west coast, you know, Oregon Washington. Uh,

533
00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:45.800
maybe some spots around the Midwest,
but not Minnesota. Boy was I

534
00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:52.800
wrong. When I started really diving
deep and researching and reading up and talking

535
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:57.119
to different people, there was a
lot more reports than I ever would think

536
00:36:57.159 --> 00:37:00.719
of. And I didn't know about
the drip less until about ten years ago.

537
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:05.400
I never thought about researching it.
I love the area. But in

538
00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:08.360
the last three years, we've got
access to a place up by Lacrosse now

539
00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:15.719
and like I said, down by
uh the Harmony area Spring Valley. You

540
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:19.920
know, we got access to about
five hundred acres here and there in different

541
00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:24.360
parts and then which we do now
we have access where we cleaned out an

542
00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:29.119
area which I can bring people out
once in the Blue Moon, I can

543
00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:30.639
bring a couple of people out camp
and they don't want to hoard people,

544
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:34.960
you know, be respectful. But
we actually set up a place where you

545
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:40.360
can put four tens in our research
and in that area once I start researching.

546
00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:45.880
Now about three years ago to the
farmers had some sightings out there and

547
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:52.480
they slowly came out and relayed that
to me. One was and I can

548
00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:54.599
that's what kind of get me more. I mean, I started getting back

549
00:37:54.599 --> 00:37:58.000
into the big Foot but we didn't
hear too much about it. We heard

550
00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:00.840
a couple of reports here and there
until about the last ten years where I

551
00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:04.840
started really picking up a lot of
reports, started asking a little more questions,

552
00:38:05.079 --> 00:38:07.559
being a little braver about. You
know, I'm not shy. I'll

553
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:10.679
go up to anyway and say what
I want at times, and sometimes it

554
00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:15.840
gets me in trouble. But I
decided to start looking around and you know,

555
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:20.360
doing a little more research. And
there were some people that would laugh

556
00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:23.519
at you, and other people say, well, I do remember someone or

557
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:29.119
I had or I know somebody,
And it just started growing from there.

558
00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:35.719
But down in Spring Valley, if
I can relay that this farmer was had

559
00:38:35.719 --> 00:38:38.920
this property for ten years and hunted
it and one night he had a big

560
00:38:40.039 --> 00:38:45.079
bonfire, a brush fire, you
know, I'm talking huge burn up some

561
00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:51.199
brush arounds land. He had a
hundred acres there and it's probably maybe a

562
00:38:51.239 --> 00:38:54.920
half mile from where we researched now
where we got access to. And he

563
00:38:57.599 --> 00:39:00.719
one night he said he was sitting
out there, but ten night he started

564
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:06.840
hearing some thrashing and some growling and
something in the woods. Again, man,

565
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:12.000
probably a bear came through from somewhere. You know that got closer,

566
00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:15.960
it sounded too big to be a
bear. It was thrashing and screaming.

567
00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:20.719
It was strange. Holes got it
along it too, But he said,

568
00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:23.199
all of a sudden, this thing
came out of the woodline and he's seen

569
00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:27.480
it and he told me they looked
every bit about nine foot tall. And

570
00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:30.400
it started thinking of my encounter when
he told me that, and I was

571
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:35.199
just like, whoa, you know, that's crazy. And he said this

572
00:39:35.320 --> 00:39:39.119
thing looked agitated, it wasn't happy, and he has ten year old sun

573
00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:44.360
setting there. I guess this thing
had slung a log at him and he

574
00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:45.599
had a rifle with him, but
he picked up his son around the waist

575
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:51.000
and height tell it in his house
and pretty much stayed in there for resus

576
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:55.440
the night, and this thing thrashed
around for about twenty minutes and was screaming

577
00:39:55.559 --> 00:40:01.639
and doing whatever it does, and
eventually went back in the woods. And

578
00:40:01.639 --> 00:40:06.280
when he got out there the next
day he found seventeen and three quarter inch

579
00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:10.039
tracks, which he claims he took
a picture of, which I have not

580
00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:15.280
seen because I haven't hooked up to
meet this guy, because I've heard this

581
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:19.199
from a couple of friends from over
there of the story, and the guy

582
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:25.000
really is not conversational. He kind
of likes to be to himself, So

583
00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:30.320
he's not he just he's not He's
not open to just meeting anybody want He

584
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:36.079
just like status don't want to meet, but he doesn't want to deal with

585
00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:39.039
anybody. So I'm trying to work
my way over there and get this report.

586
00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:43.840
Would love to see that picture,
but it came from rep people.

587
00:40:43.920 --> 00:40:49.480
These are farmers. They're not going
to pull a Wolvery eye. But that's

588
00:40:49.480 --> 00:40:52.840
what really got me interested in this
area. And our friend Chad Lewis had

589
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:57.760
wrote about Forestville. I don't know
if you read that book on the Minnesota

590
00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:00.679
about the h I don't know what
it was. Not kind of a dog

591
00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:04.960
man. I believe it was some
kind of wolf like creature or something that

592
00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:08.719
was in the Forestville. The people
were camping there and there's things don't mice

593
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:13.400
in them, and they you remember
that story. So we had investigated that

594
00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:16.800
place a couple times too. So
that's what got me down in that area.

595
00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:22.880
Sorry, so you investigated one of
Chad Lewis's stories like you followed up

596
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:27.000
on it. Yeah, we went
down, looked around, asked around,

597
00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:31.440
talked to the the rangers there and
they were they were unaware of anything.

598
00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:36.000
But when we got there, we
just went there about a month ago too

599
00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:38.800
again and they said, yeah,
we did read the story. It's very

600
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:44.280
interesting. But I asked around and
none of the other forest rangers have heard

601
00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:52.119
the story, so they were shocked. Do you mind sharing a brief summary

602
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:55.800
of it? Just because I'll put
Chad's book in the show notes for sure,

603
00:41:55.800 --> 00:42:01.119
But I think that's one where a
lot of people might not be familiar

604
00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:06.679
with. Yeah, and I don't
remember the whole details. It's been almost

605
00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:10.880
I read it, but I'll break
it down briefly. I believe that the

606
00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:15.079
uh there was the campers. There
was three guys. I believe it went

607
00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:20.480
there on the off season, which
is late September early October, when there's

608
00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:23.639
not too many campers around. Uh
so they got to run out of the

609
00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:31.719
place. It's just so they camped
on camp night number thirteen in the Forestville

610
00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:38.920
camping area there, excuse me.
So anyway, they had went there and

611
00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:43.320
they were having a bonfire, having
cold beers, and I don't know exactly

612
00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:45.519
what time was. It could have
been nineteen at night, I don't remember,

613
00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:47.159
but they had a camper there in
their truck, you know, and

614
00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:50.360
they were playing a camp there and
just hang out, you know, buddies.

615
00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:54.800
And I guess during the course of
them sitting around the bonfire, they

616
00:42:54.840 --> 00:42:59.960
had some a rat or something did
a rat thrown at them by the fire.

617
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:02.519
And I don't know if you remember
the story about trying to remember what

618
00:43:02.599 --> 00:43:07.480
I remember in my head. And
they thought it was just selling mess.

619
00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:08.280
They say, hey, knock it
off, who's out there? And they

620
00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:13.280
hurt some rustling in the bushes.
So and they had another one come you

621
00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:15.719
know, you know, a few
minutes later by the fire. So they

622
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:21.079
didn't know what it was and it
hurts me growling, So they that whatever

623
00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:22.920
it was, one of these things
actually threw them back out, you know,

624
00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:27.960
into the bushes there by the campfire. It's cleaned up now we look

625
00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:29.960
at it. It's nothing like I
don't know what I look like before,

626
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:32.320
but it looks pretty open. It's
not as it sounds like. It was

627
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:37.599
really uh wooded, and I had
a lot of brush in a time.

628
00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:43.199
So they decided that whatever it is, I'll just leave them alone and they

629
00:43:43.239 --> 00:43:46.199
won't bother them. They went into
their camper and they were. One of

630
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:49.559
them was playing cards. I guess
they were playing cards, and one of

631
00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:52.519
them was cleaning the bathroom, I
think with a brush or something, if

632
00:43:52.519 --> 00:43:54.880
I remember it, And all of
a sudden, they started herd growling outside

633
00:43:54.960 --> 00:44:00.199
the camper, and then pretty soon
something started pounding and shaking it where it

634
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:04.480
was almost going off the wheels,
and I think they, you know,

635
00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:07.480
they were freaked out and heard this
growling, and so it stopped for a

636
00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:10.639
minute. So one of the guys
came in the bathroom. And the reason

637
00:44:10.679 --> 00:44:14.199
I say this I always tell everybody
because there's a point of it with that

638
00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:17.400
brush that you clean the toilet with
chemicals. He opened the door and this

639
00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:22.519
wolf like had I don't think there
was I don't know somemma tall or how

640
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:25.679
big it was, but this giant
wolf like head came in and it scratched

641
00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:30.119
at him and he hit it with
the brush, and if I remember it,

642
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:32.039
they think the reason it backed off
and he was able to shut the

643
00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:37.960
doors because the chemicals got to the
nostrils, but it had gashed his forearm

644
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:43.599
opened a little bit, and they
closed the door, and this thing thrash

645
00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:46.519
around for a little bit and left. So they decided to get uh in

646
00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:50.199
their truck and get out of there. You know, they were scared.

647
00:44:50.280 --> 00:44:52.840
They didn't want to be there,
nore And I believe if I remember when

648
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:57.400
they were leaving out of that park
and we've been in that area, it's

649
00:44:57.400 --> 00:45:00.760
really would uh this thing came back
back out of the tree line and jumped

650
00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:06.280
on their truck as they were leaving, and I guess they they went,

651
00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:08.159
oh no, they came out tree
line and they went around it. He

652
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:12.159
jumped off the truck or they went
around I can't remember. I think it

653
00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:16.440
jumped on truck, right, And
anyway, I think they either put on

654
00:45:16.440 --> 00:45:20.199
the brakes or rolled off or something
like that. And they got either and

655
00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:22.920
they went to the course to the
Austin Police Department, if I believe right,

656
00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:29.360
and they prayed much Tolmas pages to
bear. You know, you guys

657
00:45:29.320 --> 00:45:37.280
are in drinking it, you know, yeah, it ain't happening. So

658
00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:40.599
but we were there just about a
month and a half, yeah, checking

659
00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:44.199
it out and it wasn't open yet, and I and they said, no,

660
00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:46.280
you know, go ahead and go
in there. Just park on this

661
00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:50.039
tide. You got a permission going
there and do what you want to do.

662
00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:53.000
So We looked around a little bit
hung out and took some videos.

663
00:45:53.639 --> 00:45:58.400
And that's going to be if I
meet me and a friend of mine,

664
00:45:58.440 --> 00:46:00.559
Dan Adrello. He's a good I
don't know Dan Nindrello. He's a great

665
00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:05.559
big foot research. I have tried
to talk to Dan for such a long

666
00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:10.599
time, and if Dan is listening, you always convitation my friend. So

667
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:15.679
yeah, he's a great He's actually
been out to my research area and he

668
00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:19.719
goes, look squatchy. We went
down in a tracks machine with like train

669
00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:22.239
tracks. We went down. I
don't know how we got in some places,

670
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:27.280
but anyway, I was fathering this
ideal about I mean a conference down

671
00:46:27.440 --> 00:46:30.360
in the Forestville area since there's so
many reports as of late. So I

672
00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:35.079
talked to the rangers. They said, you got our permission. They showed

673
00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:37.239
us where we're going to go.
So twenty twenty five, I'm going to

674
00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:43.320
try to get some guest speakers together. Dan's gonna help us out and we're

675
00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:46.480
gonna throw we don't know what's to
be called it. You know Drivlis area

676
00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:52.039
conference, you know four coming or
whatever, and we're going to figure it

677
00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:53.920
out. But it's right now.
So we're going to have our first ever

678
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:58.119
big for comforts at that area.
And it's a beautiful site with cabins.

679
00:46:59.159 --> 00:47:04.239
I believe we can have thirty or
fifty camp or something of that. One

680
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:07.639
spot thirty the other fifty. Yeah, so we're gonna get together, so

681
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:13.320
and we'll do we're contemplating on June
or September. We don't know yet.

682
00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:16.480
Got to make it work, you
know, so, but we're gonna that's

683
00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:20.599
in the making, so we should
be able to get that going by uh,

684
00:47:20.920 --> 00:47:23.719
we'll be in the making for next
year. It's a beautiful area to

685
00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:28.679
research. Yeah. Yeah, oh
man, there's not so there's not enough

686
00:47:29.159 --> 00:47:32.559
big Foot conference as well in the
Midwest. I guess we have the Nebraska

687
00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:38.079
big Foot Conference, and then there's
one up in northern Minnesota, right Abel,

688
00:47:38.480 --> 00:47:43.199
Yeah thing, yeah we got but
uh yeah, we go. We

689
00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:46.440
go there quite a bit last three
years in a row, and then but

690
00:47:46.519 --> 00:47:51.239
around here, yeah, there's not
there's not too many. You know.

691
00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:53.320
Hopefully hopefully we can get some more
for people to come out and enjoy.

692
00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:59.519
You know, I love the Van
vanir Festival rocks yeah time, Yeah it

693
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:05.679
is. I love that idea of
you guys getting some kind of Bigfoot conference

694
00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:10.920
in that Forestville area, and I
mean it that's I mean relatively close to

695
00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:16.400
Minneapolis. Is not that far away, right, Uh, probably bought.

696
00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:21.559
I don't know. We're about hour
away. I love our location in Claremont

697
00:48:21.559 --> 00:48:28.840
here. I think about two hours
wherever. Well, you got Rochester,

698
00:48:29.079 --> 00:48:31.760
you know the airport there, so
if you want to fly in, but

699
00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:36.760
still it would be it's kind of
in the middle of you know, you

700
00:48:36.840 --> 00:48:45.079
got Wisconsin, Iowa, Minnesota,
Illinois, ain't too far away area.

701
00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:49.039
A lot of caves you got too, uh in the area in that park.

702
00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:51.440
We're going to have it. They
got the Forestville Caves, which are

703
00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:53.440
beautiful. You can go on to
ground. They got a cave system,

704
00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:59.159
you can you know, venture into
a lot of hiking trails, like seventeen

705
00:48:59.159 --> 00:49:02.920
miles of hiking trail. It's a
beautiful area. I mean, it's it's

706
00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:07.760
perfect, picture perfect. We researched, me and April thinking about this,

707
00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:10.360
contemplating it, and we went around
different areas, different and I thought that

708
00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:15.400
would be perfect. It's right in
the middle of everything. Yeah, and

709
00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:17.079
not too far from there. You
get the Niagara Caves, which is a

710
00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:22.199
little bigger than the forest Field Mystery
Cave and that one. You can go

711
00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:24.320
about a mile underground and you end
up in the highway side at you when

712
00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:28.639
you're down sixty foot waterfall. We've
been down there many times. Yeah,

713
00:49:29.559 --> 00:49:35.039
but all the report once you get
down to the end of the tour and

714
00:49:35.079 --> 00:49:37.880
you can go on further the private
tourist and they get our wedding chapel too

715
00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:45.159
down there, yeah or beautiful.
Oh that's funny, guys. So let's

716
00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:50.599
let's take this time kind of talk
about uh, why why is what's up

717
00:49:50.599 --> 00:49:57.559
with the driftless area. Well,
the drilling area is just unique in the

718
00:49:57.880 --> 00:50:00.719
cell. I don't know if you're
familiar with that. That's with the glaziers,

719
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:04.320
and I didn't learn this so recently. The glaciers kind of went around

720
00:50:04.320 --> 00:50:07.440
it, so it's been untouched.
Everything is pretty much like it was ten

721
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:15.280
thousand years ago. And there's a
lot of caves, a lot of reports

722
00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:21.239
that I've been noticing from different people
in that area. Wisconsin, Minnesota,

723
00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:24.519
the Iowa side up in that corner. But the Driffis area is just a

724
00:50:24.599 --> 00:50:30.559
unique place ecology, it's streams.
I just noticed. I was looking on

725
00:50:30.599 --> 00:50:34.840
the Bigfoot Mapping project and I was
reading a story I don't know if it's

726
00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:37.440
new or not. I think with
Lady six, where a lady had and

727
00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:42.119
where we're going to have the conference, had seen a bigfoot like creature kneeling

728
00:50:42.199 --> 00:50:46.760
down in the stream while she was
heard herself troup fishing and had seen a

729
00:50:46.840 --> 00:50:52.039
creature that she called found footprints later
which she went over there later. But

730
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:53.760
it looked like it was in the
stream fishing. I guess it was in

731
00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:58.400
the stream and it took off into
the bushes. So the more and more

732
00:50:58.440 --> 00:51:02.480
I hear stories out this area,
I'm just I'm so glad we're going an

733
00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:06.840
hour away. I mean, it's
it's a unique, it's a unique place

734
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:12.679
to do research. And uh,
you know Kad wrote about that one story.

735
00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:17.639
I've got about five that I know
from that area now across that's only

736
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:22.239
about an hour and a half from
us. You know, it's not too

737
00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:27.400
far away. So all this is
kind of driving together that Mississippi corridor on

738
00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:32.559
each side. How Uh, it's
it's unique. It's just unique. Yeah,

739
00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:37.559
there's a massive amount of reports in
the Driftless area on the Iowa side.

740
00:51:38.159 --> 00:51:45.800
I mean Dubuque County alone, just
a ton. And also, I

741
00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:50.119
mean stuff that's not even documented anywhere. People that just reach out to me,

742
00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:55.199
and just like the whole Dubuque area
is just wild and the whole well,

743
00:51:55.199 --> 00:52:00.320
actually the northeast, the whole Northeast
area. Tons of big foot sightings

744
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:05.719
over the years. It's crazy.
So I think you guys have a great

745
00:52:05.800 --> 00:52:12.639
idea in mind getting potentially getting that
Bigfoot conference for that Driftless area together.

746
00:52:13.440 --> 00:52:17.679
You had mentioned that you had a
an inn. Uh was it over in

747
00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:22.920
Lacrosse where you had like there's like
a five hundred acre area that place.

748
00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:27.800
No, that'd be more in the
Spring Valley area. On that area,

749
00:52:28.079 --> 00:52:32.199
I couldn't tell you. It's pretty
large too. But the person we met,

750
00:52:32.400 --> 00:52:37.159
he actually met him through a person
in Spring Valley. He had told

751
00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:42.320
me that he had seen red eyes
in the forest and he's a hunter and

752
00:52:42.840 --> 00:52:45.639
he builds retaining. It's a nice
guy. But he took I took Dan

753
00:52:45.719 --> 00:52:49.599
Agella with us because I want to
go see the area. But we put

754
00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:52.119
we got game cams up right now
in that area. You know, sell

755
00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:57.559
game because we keep monitoring from out
here in our house. It's pretty nice.

756
00:52:57.760 --> 00:53:00.639
Although you got hike up there to
put him up and get that area.

757
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:07.519
But he had seen a little one
and a larger one one day while

758
00:53:07.559 --> 00:53:10.880
he's hunting in that area, and
a little one was probably five foot tall.

759
00:53:10.920 --> 00:53:15.400
But he said he kept coming up
the bild observing them, and he

760
00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:20.159
was at distance and would stand up
and it would have like these little hard

761
00:53:20.159 --> 00:53:22.000
any lips, the straight lips,
and when we go and maybe kind of

762
00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:25.199
make a weird noise, and he
kind of I went to it from that

763
00:53:25.320 --> 00:53:29.400
kind of chuckle. But what it
was trying to do, I don't know.

764
00:53:29.559 --> 00:53:31.719
They would peak up and do some
kind of motion in his mouth and

765
00:53:31.719 --> 00:53:35.960
then kind of go back down behind
his log wall. All in all was

766
00:53:36.599 --> 00:53:38.000
larger. You don't know how big
it was. He looked massive. I

767
00:53:38.119 --> 00:53:42.239
was watching him. But he took
us up there and we did find.

768
00:53:42.400 --> 00:53:46.760
Uh, there's a there's an old
graveyard overlooking Lacrosse there. And this is

769
00:53:46.800 --> 00:53:51.559
on the Minnesota side, by a
call Lacrosse because it's right across the mississippis

770
00:53:51.599 --> 00:53:53.360
right. You can see the cross
when you look across the river there,

771
00:53:53.800 --> 00:53:59.039
so it's and they own that land
there, and uh, there's a little

772
00:53:59.039 --> 00:54:02.800
graveyard there, and he said that's
some of the first founders of Lacrosse.

773
00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:07.519
They're buried in there. There's eight
gravestones. Lucky I had some be MTh

774
00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:09.000
meaters. I got to do a
little bit of that paranormal stuff too.

775
00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:14.360
But we went down with dandel at
him and he showed us around some different

776
00:54:14.360 --> 00:54:16.920
stuff. We did find an interesting
It looked like a fence. It looked

777
00:54:16.960 --> 00:54:22.639
like, you know, forty foot
trees that were beat out and then you

778
00:54:22.679 --> 00:54:25.119
put one opposite this way and then
the other one the other way. There's

779
00:54:25.159 --> 00:54:29.360
three of them like it made a
little fence, which is kind of odd.

780
00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:31.679
Didn't make any sense. And these
are big trees, so it's hard

781
00:54:31.679 --> 00:54:35.760
to pick up and say, Angelmia, let's go and make a fence here,

782
00:54:35.800 --> 00:54:39.280
you know, just thinking happen.
So that was interesting. And he

783
00:54:39.960 --> 00:54:45.400
also had sought us a place where
he thinks one of these haunts because he

784
00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:50.760
said he's heard weird, strange noise
up there. But he showed us this

785
00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:53.480
tree that he said it looked like
they had broken off the branches and made

786
00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:57.719
like a roost wing sit up there
kind of like a hand, you know,

787
00:54:57.960 --> 00:55:00.880
upside down with the branches broke off, and there was a little we

788
00:55:01.119 --> 00:55:05.239
noticed a little area where it looked
like something had been laying there. But

789
00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:08.960
who's to say if that's what that
was or not. But he's been he's

790
00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:14.039
been out there and he said he's
seen something out in this area. He

791
00:55:14.079 --> 00:55:17.119
did text me about two months ago
while he was out in the forest.

792
00:55:17.679 --> 00:55:21.639
He had showed me and sent me
some video. But he's seen two of

793
00:55:21.719 --> 00:55:24.840
these running away from him and going
down a hill during the day and it

794
00:55:24.880 --> 00:55:30.519
went back up and these this mountainous
area. It's it's pretty mountain forest forested,

795
00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:31.960
and it was going back up the
hill. Now, he did show

796
00:55:32.039 --> 00:55:37.119
me a picture from across, So
if you're taking a half mile picture of

797
00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:39.199
the cell phone, it's not going
to be very good, maybe a quartermall,

798
00:55:39.199 --> 00:55:43.599
but you could see in the forest
some dark two dark figures. Now

799
00:55:43.679 --> 00:55:47.039
what they are I don't know,
So it's it's not definite, they're not

800
00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:53.519
fitting, but it's interesting. But
I'm going by what he's observing. And

801
00:55:53.559 --> 00:55:57.519
he had asked me if I picked
up anything on my trail camp because he

802
00:55:57.519 --> 00:56:00.880
said they ran right by it.
No, I didn't. The only thing

803
00:56:00.920 --> 00:56:07.280
I caught one time was a deer. It was by the trail cam and

804
00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:10.280
it looked towards that area because you
put the cam on the cams right on

805
00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:15.679
top of the hill before it goes
over, and it looked also too out

806
00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:19.679
rand and then you see two eyes
kind of do this and come up.

807
00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:24.360
So that's another deer. There were
white. It could be another deer.

808
00:56:24.639 --> 00:56:29.239
It was a little taller than a
deer. But I don't know. It's

809
00:56:29.840 --> 00:56:34.079
just it's interesting but interesting. I
can't say it is or isn't. It's

810
00:56:34.119 --> 00:56:37.960
just interesting. But we do have
our cams going twenty four to seven up

811
00:56:37.000 --> 00:56:45.480
in both areas right now, so
hopefully we can times there's some solid sightings

812
00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:47.679
that are going on in that area. Anybody who everyone's come up with us

813
00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:52.280
and you know, including you,
and welcome and come up. We can

814
00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:54.119
plan something and you can get out
in the woods with us. And I

815
00:56:54.199 --> 00:56:59.079
gotta show Dan. He was really
impressed when you were out there. There's

816
00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:02.559
some nice areas. But when it's
a guy who gets he goes everywhere,

817
00:57:02.960 --> 00:57:07.519
I know he's a nut. I
told him on the phone. I told

818
00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:10.719
him I would not I go.
I handed to you. I mean,

819
00:57:12.320 --> 00:57:14.840
he's got a couple of years on
me. I'll be fifty nine in a

820
00:57:14.880 --> 00:57:17.039
week here. But I told him
I I'd like to drive, but I

821
00:57:17.079 --> 00:57:21.039
can't say. I don't sleep well, so for me just to go somewhere

822
00:57:21.400 --> 00:57:22.599
knock out and get up and go, it's kind of hard for me.

823
00:57:22.719 --> 00:57:27.119
But I give it to him.
He's a go get her and he's everywhere.

824
00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:31.400
I like it though, I like
it absolutely. Have you guys ever

825
00:57:31.559 --> 00:57:39.519
been, let's say, out researching
for bigfoot and heard any sounds that you

826
00:57:39.599 --> 00:57:45.679
weren't expecting to hear or that don't
really fit in the environment where you're at?

827
00:57:47.159 --> 00:57:52.920
Yah? Well, yes, I
mean yes, we recorded one,

828
00:57:52.960 --> 00:57:54.840
but I think that it sounds more
like a wolf. But I don't think

829
00:57:54.880 --> 00:58:00.599
there's wolves down in the Triplets area. There was kyleter going on down there

830
00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:04.199
one night just last year and then
we heard a long, straight howl.

831
00:58:05.159 --> 00:58:07.920
It was crazy. I record it, but it sounds coyotish, wolfish.

832
00:58:08.599 --> 00:58:15.280
I don't know. As far as
the bigfoot sounds, we've heard, screeched

833
00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:17.360
is like a lady. Yeah,
I hate to say that. It sounds

834
00:58:17.400 --> 00:58:22.599
like a lady not doing very good
as a loud screech for about twenty five

835
00:58:22.639 --> 00:58:28.079
seconds, which has startled us.
We've heard that actually leave it around this

836
00:58:28.159 --> 00:58:32.000
area and once down in the Difference
area around here. Though as far as

837
00:58:32.039 --> 00:58:37.079
anything like the big foot, like
the Ohio sound or anything like that.

838
00:58:38.440 --> 00:58:43.679
Not too much. I haven't really
heard too much of that type of sounds.

839
00:58:43.719 --> 00:58:49.320
More of the lady screech sound.
It was just straight yeah, screaming.

840
00:58:49.440 --> 00:58:51.880
And I've known a mountain lion,
and that came pretty close one.

841
00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:53.800
That's some I don't know. I
don't know what that is. But it

842
00:58:53.840 --> 00:58:59.440
was loud and high pitched and it
went on for about twenty five seconds.

843
00:58:59.440 --> 00:59:02.880
And that's it's interesting, you know. I mean, who to say whether

844
00:59:02.920 --> 00:59:07.360
it's a bigfoot or not a big
foot? I mean we've been around all

845
00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:12.239
of a sudden minute, you know, researchness, and it falls in that

846
00:59:12.360 --> 00:59:16.559
realm where it's possible, and we're
we were also listening and there was no

847
00:59:16.679 --> 00:59:21.760
sound, nothing, no animals,
nothing. Yeah. Down in that area

848
00:59:21.800 --> 00:59:25.800
in Spring Valley for two weeks,
there was no coyotes, no animal life.

849
00:59:25.840 --> 00:59:30.920
It was quiet, and it was
strange because he has a dog.

850
00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:37.079
It looks like Lassie and it stared
one night at the forest for a good

851
00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:39.199
ten minutes and will not move,
and we were wondering, I go to

852
00:59:39.360 --> 00:59:45.079
the dogs. I probably seen a
coon or something. This was this last

853
00:59:45.119 --> 00:59:47.840
September and it was in me her
and my friend Adam that you know,

854
00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:53.760
his mama's property, and all of
a sudden, the dog went back up

855
00:59:53.800 --> 00:59:58.000
to the farmhouse, which is a
little ways away. So as you know,

856
00:59:58.000 --> 01:00:00.239
I don't know what's all there.
So we just dismissed. But we

857
01:00:00.320 --> 01:00:05.159
were kind of we were uneasy that
we haven't heard in a wildlife. You

858
01:00:05.159 --> 01:00:07.760
know, it's been pretty dead for
two weeks. And I said, I

859
01:00:07.760 --> 01:00:10.599
don't hear the kyok they go off
like alarm clocket o'clock every night. And

860
01:00:10.760 --> 01:00:15.960
uh, right, I always camp
even though the sea squatch one sea squatch

861
01:00:15.960 --> 01:00:19.480
away up north around half a mile
from Cane and border. Although I camp's

862
01:00:19.519 --> 01:00:22.639
right next to the bush, you
guys stay that, I'll go arm turns

863
01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:25.000
it away and I'll be the idiot
that camps right next to that bush by

864
01:00:25.039 --> 01:00:27.840
the game trail, so I can
see if I get in the action.

865
01:00:27.960 --> 01:00:30.000
But so I put my tan up
in this area where I do every year,

866
01:00:30.519 --> 01:00:34.440
in that in that where we cleaned
out right next to that. It's

867
01:00:34.440 --> 01:00:36.719
a ravine to go straight down behind
my tent. Believe we're not into the

868
01:00:36.800 --> 01:00:42.960
river. Yeah, and uh and
that night, about a thirty we're just

869
01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:45.519
sitting around having a beer and then
we're gonna go out and do some research,

870
01:00:45.559 --> 01:00:47.679
come back by ten thirty and go
back out from the About eight thirty,

871
01:00:47.719 --> 01:00:55.480
we're just like like a deep kind
of coming behind my tent. And

872
01:00:55.519 --> 01:00:58.800
I looked at him, and we
had the radio kind of low, so

873
01:00:58.840 --> 01:01:04.639
you can hear it, I mean
I can't. And I go, I

874
01:01:04.679 --> 01:01:07.440
go, did you guys hear that? And then uh, my friend says,

875
01:01:07.559 --> 01:01:13.800
well, I said exactly, and
I heard it too. So I

876
01:01:13.840 --> 01:01:17.559
got my light out in the red
lights so that's what we're supposed to use,

877
01:01:17.599 --> 01:01:22.639
and they can't see that the light. So I shined it out there

878
01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:24.480
and went I was nervous. I
think, I don't all care about.

879
01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:29.000
I was nervous, and I started
shying the light up and I lit up

880
01:01:29.000 --> 01:01:32.599
the forest with that red light and
I went real slow comeda for five minutes

881
01:01:32.599 --> 01:01:36.880
and didn't see nothing. It's thick. I mean, something could have been

882
01:01:37.199 --> 01:01:42.280
hiding, but I didn't see nothing. So we just missed it. And

883
01:01:42.840 --> 01:01:45.000
you don't know what that was.
Just don't let it get to you.

884
01:01:46.039 --> 01:01:50.400
Well, we took a walk up
down you know the hill. There's a

885
01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:52.920
little bluff that goes up and then
we went down the ways and listened with

886
01:01:53.000 --> 01:02:00.480
our parabolic here and did some night
vision U surveillance and then I get too

887
01:02:00.559 --> 01:02:04.639
much and just quiet. So we
came back up sat around the fire about

888
01:02:04.639 --> 01:02:07.320
ten thirty at night. Within a
half hour, we heard the same growl

889
01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:13.119
again right behind my tent. Oh
wow mmh, and I freaked us on.

890
01:02:13.280 --> 01:02:15.159
I go, what the heck is
that? You know? I don't

891
01:02:15.199 --> 01:02:19.760
know. I didn't go look this
time. I thought, let's see if

892
01:02:19.800 --> 01:02:23.519
it does anything else, but I
just don't go there. Nothing. So

893
01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:29.360
we went ahead and did some more
research for until about probably We turned in

894
01:02:29.440 --> 01:02:34.400
about one and then came back to
the campsite and then we said, uh,

895
01:02:35.039 --> 01:02:37.119
you know, pop some beers and
hang out. We'll just sing her

896
01:02:37.159 --> 01:02:39.639
and monitor everything and let our cameras
do its work. So we were enjoying

897
01:02:39.639 --> 01:02:44.760
the night. By two in the
morning, the same growl again, Oh

898
01:02:44.840 --> 01:02:50.400
man, same place. So that's
when I got uneasy and I did turn

899
01:02:50.440 --> 01:02:53.039
on a regular flash I and try
to beam that whole lot, the whole

900
01:02:53.079 --> 01:02:57.320
area up and I didn't see nothing. And then we went to bed pretty

901
01:02:57.400 --> 01:03:00.840
late. We were up just listening
almost about four thirty before we turned in.

902
01:03:01.480 --> 01:03:06.599
Nothing and nothing ever since nothing after
so far. So that's strange,

903
01:03:07.119 --> 01:03:08.440
very strange. And I don't know
what the ground was. It was a

904
01:03:08.480 --> 01:03:14.079
deep, guttural ground. Didn't sound
like something I'm used to in the forest

905
01:03:14.840 --> 01:03:22.559
exactly. You know, I've gotten
some some interesting reports of orbs along with

906
01:03:22.880 --> 01:03:28.199
Bigfoot from the northeast Siowa area.
Is that anything you've ever run into in

907
01:03:28.280 --> 01:03:36.440
your research, any orb interactions or
things of that nature. I haven't.

908
01:03:36.800 --> 01:03:40.559
We we haven't seen the orbs as
far as mixed in with the Bigfoot.

909
01:03:40.599 --> 01:03:47.320
But back in late seventies in California, I've seen two orbs that floated around

910
01:03:47.400 --> 01:03:53.280
in the area where we farmed.
And I guess there was an old generator

911
01:03:53.320 --> 01:03:58.480
back in the nineteen hundred they used
to irrigate, and you know there was

912
01:03:58.480 --> 01:04:01.920
a pump. No pump. I
guess the farmer and the sun actually got

913
01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:05.400
electrocuted there. They're trying to work
on it. It both. I guess

914
01:04:05.400 --> 01:04:09.639
one time grabbed the other one.
They both got electrocuted there and had passed

915
01:04:09.679 --> 01:04:13.400
on. So I'm thinking maybe that
was why we seen them two lights.

916
01:04:14.400 --> 01:04:16.679
The only other thing is when we
were out at the Spring Valley there one

917
01:04:16.760 --> 01:04:20.039
night. We've seen some lights and
there was little clouds. It was kind

918
01:04:20.039 --> 01:04:25.079
of overcaps, and we've seen these
little lights by the clouds kind of doing

919
01:04:25.159 --> 01:04:28.159
this if I can do it kind
of a circle a little bit and go

920
01:04:28.360 --> 01:04:31.480
out and coming back together. And
they looked like almost like a spot light

921
01:04:31.519 --> 01:04:36.159
in the cloud. But there's nothing
that There's no k Mart or anything,

922
01:04:36.199 --> 01:04:40.719
I mean, no Walmart or anything. To me. I thought maybe it

923
01:04:40.760 --> 01:04:44.840
was like they got some kind of
cell going on somewhere, but there's nothing

924
01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:49.079
there, so that was odd.
So we went down walking about halfway the

925
01:04:49.079 --> 01:04:53.480
creek and on it again. I
was little spook that night, and it's

926
01:04:53.599 --> 01:04:56.880
trying to film it, but my
galaxy didn't really pick it up. And

927
01:04:56.920 --> 01:05:01.000
I do got some kick button night
in color night vision psionics I could probably

928
01:05:01.039 --> 01:05:03.559
picked it up with, but didn't
have an army. And by the time

929
01:05:03.599 --> 01:05:06.840
I went to go back to get
it, so I watched it for about

930
01:05:06.840 --> 01:05:10.679
a minute I went back, they
had disappeared. So I don't know what

931
01:05:10.760 --> 01:05:15.039
that was. And I don't have
no clue what it was. Unless someone

932
01:05:15.320 --> 01:05:16.960
on a ranch had bought a bunch
of lights and were shining up in the

933
01:05:16.960 --> 01:05:21.760
sky right down, I don't know. I couldn't tell you, But it's

934
01:05:21.800 --> 01:05:27.280
a strange place, and it's getting
stranger and stranger the more we get out

935
01:05:27.320 --> 01:05:33.159
their research. It's not bigfoot.
But in the area that we've been talking

936
01:05:33.159 --> 01:05:39.440
about, have you gotten any reports, any dog man reports at all,

937
01:05:39.559 --> 01:05:45.159
or anything that's not bigfoot up there
in Spring Valley? Uh? We we're

938
01:05:45.239 --> 01:05:50.039
usually add a lot. No,
not just the one that Chad Lewis wrote

939
01:05:50.039 --> 01:05:55.599
about. There was a lady who
said she had seen a black panther.

940
01:05:56.079 --> 01:05:59.960
I call it a cougar, you
guts called cougar called mountains. She had

941
01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:01.360
seen something like that around there.
She said, look too big to be

942
01:06:01.360 --> 01:06:08.519
a cat. But yeah, there
was a down the road from me were

943
01:06:08.639 --> 01:06:11.800
Rice Lake State Park kids. And
if you work on the map you'll see

944
01:06:11.800 --> 01:06:15.519
it. Uh. Like I said, I do sell the marketing. And

945
01:06:15.599 --> 01:06:17.320
there was a guy that did not
believe in Bigfoot, does not believe in

946
01:06:17.320 --> 01:06:19.800
your post, do not believe in
any of this. It's all garbage to

947
01:06:19.840 --> 01:06:24.679
him. And he was a young
kid. He managed a produce section down

948
01:06:24.719 --> 01:06:28.039
there in the old time store.
I won't no names, but he had

949
01:06:29.280 --> 01:06:30.320
came up to me one day and
said, in his grandma, there is

950
01:06:30.519 --> 01:06:32.800
just about four miles fro where we
live now. She has a little hunter

951
01:06:32.880 --> 01:06:38.000
acre farm past the Rice Lake State
Park. And it was a year with

952
01:06:38.119 --> 01:06:40.480
the corners up, and he had
told me. He goes John Key coming

953
01:06:40.519 --> 01:06:42.159
from it and they go, yeah, what's up? But I mean he

954
01:06:42.159 --> 01:06:43.840
help with something. You know,
I'm in the store. I'll help you

955
01:06:43.880 --> 01:06:48.039
if you need something. And he
goes, what do you call them?

956
01:06:48.320 --> 01:06:53.280
Things that looked like a wolf that
stand on two legs and walk like a

957
01:06:53.320 --> 01:06:56.920
human? Ago, do you mean
a dog man? He goes, I

958
01:06:57.039 --> 01:06:59.119
guess yeah. He goes, I
need to talk to you about that.

959
01:06:59.360 --> 01:07:02.400
So we went over in the back, you know, the store there by

960
01:07:02.440 --> 01:07:05.960
the loading dock, and he goes, I want to tell you a story

961
01:07:05.960 --> 01:07:09.880
that happened to me last night.
And I said okay, And I'm getting

962
01:07:09.880 --> 01:07:12.480
excited, you know, because I
already know it's got to be some.

963
01:07:13.320 --> 01:07:15.679
And he told me that he was
driving home about ten at night, nine

964
01:07:15.760 --> 01:07:21.039
thirty ten nights from his grandma's about
half mile out of Rice Stint State Park

965
01:07:21.119 --> 01:07:25.960
North and the corners still up.
You know, it was it was still

966
01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:30.119
tall eight eight nine foot tall.
However the corn gets I know, we

967
01:07:30.159 --> 01:07:32.159
got it right in my backyard all
the time, and he said, uh.

968
01:07:32.280 --> 01:07:36.800
As he was coming drive down the
road before he got to the edge

969
01:07:36.840 --> 01:07:43.000
of about a mile before he got
the stop sign. This wolf like he

970
01:07:43.079 --> 01:07:45.639
thought it was a wolf, but
it was. It looked like a wolf

971
01:07:45.679 --> 01:07:49.760
then but he came across the road
but it wasn't all fours it was it

972
01:07:49.840 --> 01:07:55.519
was running on two legs and it
was tall. And told me how tall

973
01:07:55.639 --> 01:07:58.400
was He goes, six and a
half seven foot tall. I go,

974
01:07:58.480 --> 01:08:01.239
you're kidding me? And he goes. They had red glowing eyes and a

975
01:08:01.280 --> 01:08:04.880
long snout with teeth. As I
went down my headlights, just snarled at

976
01:08:04.880 --> 01:08:08.920
me, and I go, what
you do? Because I was in shock.

977
01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:11.800
And it went down to the little
draina's ditch, came up by the

978
01:08:11.840 --> 01:08:15.679
corn and it was almost tall as
the corn. It had nice rains,

979
01:08:15.920 --> 01:08:18.479
long dangling like it looked like had
claws on it. Because I got a

980
01:08:18.520 --> 01:08:21.079
pretty good look at it, and
it turned around, looked at me and

981
01:08:21.119 --> 01:08:24.880
just snarled, and I got what
to do? He goes, I got

982
01:08:24.880 --> 01:08:27.119
the heck OUI there, That's what
I did. I stepped on the gas

983
01:08:27.119 --> 01:08:30.199
got I didn't want nothing to do
with it. And this other guy that

984
01:08:30.279 --> 01:08:32.039
did not believe he is about thirty
years old, did not believe, joked

985
01:08:32.039 --> 01:08:34.640
at all my bigfoot stuff whenever I
told him about it, and oh my

986
01:08:34.680 --> 01:08:40.119
god, just a non believer.
But he is now, and he told

987
01:08:40.159 --> 01:08:44.479
me that it just snarled at him. It looked like it didn't it was

988
01:08:44.720 --> 01:08:47.399
kicked off for some reason. But
he said it was standing up the whole

989
01:08:47.439 --> 01:08:53.640
time, kind of hunched over.
It looked very muscling, you know,

990
01:08:53.720 --> 01:08:57.359
muscled up, and it had the
legs bent kind of a dog wood.

991
01:08:57.760 --> 01:09:00.880
But he had long, long,
long arms, say, with claws almost

992
01:09:01.359 --> 01:09:05.359
like nails coming off. But the
snout was very long, and he had

993
01:09:05.439 --> 01:09:11.119
teeth, and the red eyes it
was almost like they were illuminated. So

994
01:09:12.359 --> 01:09:15.439
I set out back sometimes having a
beer by the field. And it's only

995
01:09:15.479 --> 01:09:18.279
about twelve foot from my fence.
So every time I go out back now,

996
01:09:18.479 --> 01:09:23.279
for he told me this about seven
years ago. I bought this house

997
01:09:23.319 --> 01:09:27.439
and five I do garden. I
got a garden. I would put a

998
01:09:27.439 --> 01:09:30.399
garden out back by the field,
but the corn is pretty high when they

999
01:09:30.399 --> 01:09:31.680
don't have the soybeans, and I
always have that in the back of my

1000
01:09:31.760 --> 01:09:35.760
mind. And we have had deer
pop up sometimes a kyote run by.

1001
01:09:36.560 --> 01:09:40.359
It's a lower rural town, but
that's always in the back of my mind

1002
01:09:40.359 --> 01:09:43.119
to this dad. I'm sure if
you lived in this area and you heard

1003
01:09:43.119 --> 01:09:45.359
that, you you know, sitting
out back in a big swing and a

1004
01:09:45.479 --> 01:09:50.159
nice night, it it makes you
think, oh, yeah, definitely dog

1005
01:09:50.239 --> 01:09:56.960
Man is you know Bigfoot. Bigfoot
is My main thing is cool. I

1006
01:09:56.960 --> 01:10:00.840
don't get freaked out about Bigfoot,
but like dog Man, that's something I

1007
01:10:00.920 --> 01:10:03.880
kind of get freaked out because it's
for some reason it's harder for me to

1008
01:10:03.920 --> 01:10:10.600
explain away. And it's just you
don't hear too many nice dog Man stories.

1009
01:10:10.640 --> 01:10:15.039
They're usually no good day, so
they seem like they're a whole different

1010
01:10:16.199 --> 01:10:19.439
group. I get you just saying
that. As far as the subsquatch,

1011
01:10:19.520 --> 01:10:23.960
you know, they're yeah, I
would I mean, even though the one

1012
01:10:24.000 --> 01:10:29.039
I seen it freaked me out,
but I would rather. I would rather

1013
01:10:29.119 --> 01:10:30.840
see a dog I mean, a
Bigfoot than I would have dog maned that

1014
01:10:30.960 --> 01:10:35.039
dog Man just it doesn't seem like
any encounter that you ever hear about.

1015
01:10:35.479 --> 01:10:43.199
They're not very nice. They're very
aggressive, and what reasons I don't know.

1016
01:10:43.239 --> 01:10:46.640
But if there's one running around back
here, yeah, I'll keep my

1017
01:10:46.680 --> 01:10:50.880
eye because I'm not too far from
the cornfield. I got twelve feet separate

1018
01:10:51.039 --> 01:10:57.199
my garden and the cornfield, right, and that area is only four miles

1019
01:10:57.239 --> 01:11:02.880
away. Oh wow. You know, going off of all the information that

1020
01:11:02.960 --> 01:11:08.800
you have from all over, from
all the years that you've been looking into

1021
01:11:08.800 --> 01:11:15.520
Bigfoot, Let's say, if if
you were to you could go to anywhere

1022
01:11:15.520 --> 01:11:21.159
in the US, where do you
think you have the best chance of having

1023
01:11:21.199 --> 01:11:28.960
a solid visual of the Bigfoot just
based on what you've known from your research

1024
01:11:29.000 --> 01:11:33.239
from over the years. You know, that's really tough, because my mind's

1025
01:11:33.319 --> 01:11:36.239
opened up a lot more. Even
we went down to the Ozarks. We

1026
01:11:36.359 --> 01:11:41.159
get a little looking around there,
and that little snake that was chasing me

1027
01:11:41.239 --> 01:11:47.359
that probably was poisonous. I didn't
you know the ozark color the swamps in

1028
01:11:47.479 --> 01:11:53.159
Florida that that'd be hard. But
you know, my heart still got to

1029
01:11:53.199 --> 01:11:59.760
say northern California up in that area, Washington, Oregon, Northern confer that

1030
01:11:59.800 --> 01:12:02.760
whole area there. It just seems
to be a mega of reports there,

1031
01:12:02.800 --> 01:12:10.439
and I mean it's it's nothing like
here. It's totally different. You got

1032
01:12:10.600 --> 01:12:13.520
redwoods. I mean, there's the
koya Is down south. I mean,

1033
01:12:13.520 --> 01:12:17.279
it's perfect you get Shasta, you
got it's here. I mean, you've

1034
01:12:17.279 --> 01:12:24.359
got so much areas where they can
they can be and and there's places out

1035
01:12:24.359 --> 01:12:27.039
there but we fly over all time. I mean, when you come over

1036
01:12:27.119 --> 01:12:30.199
from in the California, you look
at all them woods that you pass over

1037
01:12:30.680 --> 01:12:35.920
over the states, how much of
that had never been touched by man?

1038
01:12:36.039 --> 01:12:40.119
You know, I'm sure you go
to the Bounty Waters, We've been several

1039
01:12:40.159 --> 01:12:44.920
times. We've we've researched the roach
of out National Forest before. There's Louy

1040
01:12:44.960 --> 01:12:48.479
Ports, but there's some vast areas
where you can get lost, no we

1041
01:12:48.560 --> 01:12:53.239
ever find you, ever see you
again. I mean, but up in

1042
01:12:53.279 --> 01:12:57.159
that area, the West coast,
I think that would probably be my go

1043
01:12:57.199 --> 01:13:00.640
to place if I ever wanted to
since say, I thinking it's solid evidence

1044
01:13:00.680 --> 01:13:04.279
here, but there's so many out
there. I mean, I don't want

1045
01:13:04.279 --> 01:13:09.079
to say that in I want to
say respected, because there's so many places

1046
01:13:09.079 --> 01:13:13.239
out here that you can research.
I mean, I never thought in my

1047
01:13:13.279 --> 01:13:18.640
wildest dreams that here in southern Minnesota, northern Iowa, Lacrosse would have this

1048
01:13:18.800 --> 01:13:23.239
many reports. But while was iron
that's all I got to say. You

1049
01:13:23.319 --> 01:13:28.479
learned something every day, absolutely,
you know, I've been only really looking

1050
01:13:28.479 --> 01:13:33.279
into this for about five years,
and it's just it's so interesting the more

1051
01:13:33.319 --> 01:13:39.720
I find out about the Driftless area
from people like you. I just talked

1052
01:13:39.720 --> 01:13:43.760
to a researcher, Bob barr Height, he's a bigfoot guy, and we're

1053
01:13:43.760 --> 01:13:47.000
talking also kind of about that area. I've talked to another researcher. Her

1054
01:13:47.079 --> 01:13:54.600
name is Ontario Richardson from eastern Iowa, and I mean that whole Driftless area.

1055
01:13:54.640 --> 01:14:00.239
There's there's so much to learn,
and I think in in our area

1056
01:14:00.319 --> 01:14:05.520
that's probably where you have the best
chance of definitely, you know, having

1057
01:14:05.560 --> 01:14:12.399
a sighting or some sort of interaction. John, this has been a really

1058
01:14:12.439 --> 01:14:17.439
fun discussion. Is very a ton
of information. Thank you. Would you

1059
01:14:17.439 --> 01:14:24.079
mind spending a few minutes talking about
your organization, Midnight Squatters and anything you

1060
01:14:24.119 --> 01:14:29.359
want to share about that or how
people can contact you to share what they

1061
01:14:29.399 --> 01:14:34.000
may have encountered up in your area. Sure. Yeah, you can reach

1062
01:14:34.119 --> 01:14:42.199
us at Midnight midsquatchsone at gmail dot
com. It's all lowercase. You can

1063
01:14:42.279 --> 01:14:45.079
go to our Facebook page. It's
private. Just send a request, we'll

1064
01:14:45.760 --> 01:14:48.920
get you in there. And that's
at the Midnight squatchs Facebook. We don't

1065
01:14:48.960 --> 01:14:56.039
have just look us up as Midnight
Squatches on Facebook. You can. I

1066
01:14:56.039 --> 01:14:58.800
don't put a whole lot on it. I'm getting better and I got a

1067
01:14:58.800 --> 01:15:01.920
ton of video. Say this to
every podcast I go on. But you

1068
01:15:01.920 --> 01:15:08.159
can look at that Midsquatchers YouTube channel
too. We have that going, but

1069
01:15:08.239 --> 01:15:11.600
I definitely want to get that more
videos put on there. They just sit

1070
01:15:11.720 --> 01:15:15.479
on my phone taking up space.
But there's a lot of research we do.

1071
01:15:15.560 --> 01:15:18.119
I've got research in California from ten
years ago that I need to go

1072
01:15:18.199 --> 01:15:20.000
through and I find stuff on it. I'm like, I got to get

1073
01:15:20.039 --> 01:15:24.960
this on there. I'm still learning. I know, I'm still learning.

1074
01:15:25.079 --> 01:15:27.800
I got to get all these It
takes a lot of time to go through

1075
01:15:27.840 --> 01:15:30.640
it. We just did. We
just did a paranormal We want to put

1076
01:15:30.640 --> 01:15:38.279
another paranormal group up to Greenlawn Cemetery
last weekend in research, one of the

1077
01:15:38.399 --> 01:15:45.039
second oldest graveyards lit little paranormal investigation
in Minnesota and we got some great actions.

1078
01:15:45.079 --> 01:15:46.720
I put that on there too,
but it's not Bigfoot related, so

1079
01:15:46.760 --> 01:15:48.840
I don't put it on my side. I try to put on my Facebook

1080
01:15:48.840 --> 01:15:54.680
page. But yeah, in the
stuff that you've got from like ten years

1081
01:15:54.720 --> 01:15:58.039
ago. You just put it up
and you know, let people watch it

1082
01:15:58.119 --> 01:16:00.039
and maybe they'll find stuff in it, you know, right, Yeah,

1083
01:16:00.039 --> 01:16:02.960
I get it, and I need
to do that. Uh. You know,

1084
01:16:03.560 --> 01:16:06.640
even when we went to research that
in twenty eighteen, we had a

1085
01:16:06.680 --> 01:16:11.680
tree pushed over and I had a
reil carl that was a Kia in that

1086
01:16:12.119 --> 01:16:15.119
where I researched, and we had
went through there. On the way back,

1087
01:16:15.199 --> 01:16:19.680
this tree was pushed over blockiness,
so it didn't look like it was

1088
01:16:19.760 --> 01:16:24.079
old, like it just fell over. Anyway, long story short, we

1089
01:16:24.159 --> 01:16:27.199
got pebble and all that stuff,
and I get a video that bigger and

1090
01:16:27.239 --> 01:16:30.159
bigger. But yeah, if they
want to reach us, if people want

1091
01:16:30.159 --> 01:16:34.640
to reach us again, it'll be
uh midnight mid squatches one at gmail dot

1092
01:16:34.680 --> 01:16:39.399
com. You can look at midnight
Squatches of Facebook and then our YouTube channel

1093
01:16:39.520 --> 01:16:44.279
we do have and I will start
thanks to Jeremiah, I will start posting

1094
01:16:44.319 --> 01:16:45.439
a little more video. I got
a lot of years to put up there.

1095
01:16:45.479 --> 01:16:51.680
Believe me, I might just well, they're always want to lucky and

1096
01:16:51.800 --> 01:16:55.600
also look forward to us next year. We're going to try to get that

1097
01:16:57.199 --> 01:16:59.159
what conference, I don't know the
name of it yet, but we're going

1098
01:16:59.199 --> 01:17:02.720
to have something going next year for
sure, more likely in the June time

1099
01:17:02.800 --> 01:17:06.000
frame, but we'll get we'll fine
tune that and definitely I'll let you know

1100
01:17:06.079 --> 01:17:10.600
on that. Yeah, I'll be
keeping an eye out for that because I

1101
01:17:10.600 --> 01:17:15.359
mean, that's less than four hours
from where I'm at, so it's definitely

1102
01:17:15.439 --> 01:17:19.800
doable. So I will definitely be
keeping an eye on what comes of that.

1103
01:17:19.920 --> 01:17:25.239
But John April, it's been a
pleasure chatting with you guys. Thank

1104
01:17:25.279 --> 01:17:29.159
you so much for coming on tonight. Oh it's been a pleasure. Thank

1105
01:17:29.159 --> 01:17:33.319
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1113
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1114
01:18:10.439 --> 01:18:15.279
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1115
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1116
01:18:18.239 --> 01:18:24.159
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1117
01:18:24.199 --> 01:18:28.640
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1118
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1124
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1125
01:19:01.079 --> 01:19:06.600
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01:19:06.600 --> 01:19:11.600
full time, So here we go. As of five twenty two, you're

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now at two hundred and two patroons
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That's twenty four point five to one
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way there, guys, brings us
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Society. I'll see you there and
again thanks for listening. Her and I

1137
01:20:43.920 --> 01:20:46.079
can get out here, we can
tell our stories. Maybe there's somebody else

1138
01:20:46.119 --> 01:20:50.319
out there listening it's too afraid to
tell their story. Maybe this will give

1139
01:20:50.399 --> 01:20:54.920
them the courage to come out.
And I feel so bad about it.

1140
01:20:55.359 --> 01:20:58.960
Who cares what anybody thinks. I
know what I saw, I know what's

1141
01:20:59.000 --> 01:21:18.840
out there. That's all I care. Please let people know, Please let

1142
01:21:19.039 --> 01:21:24.000
them know. If you ever see
one of these things, you need to

1143
01:21:24.039 --> 01:21:28.720
tell because if you don't, then
shame on you, you know, shame

1144
01:21:28.800 --> 01:21:36.880
on you.