March 16, 2025

Bigfoot of the McKenzie River! | Oregon

Originally released 6/7/24

In this episode of Bigfoot Society, host Jeremiah Byron chats with Brad, a listener from Oregon, who shares spine-chilling Bigfoot encounters experienced throughout his life. From eerie happenings in the McKenzie River area...

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Season 1

Originally released 6/7/24

In this episode of Bigfoot Society, host Jeremiah Byron chats with Brad, a listener from Oregon, who shares spine-chilling Bigfoot encounters experienced throughout his life. From eerie happenings in the McKenzie River area to a terrifying encounter in the Diamond Peak Wilderness, Brad recounts numerous unexplainable events. He details the sounds of screeching metal in the forest, strange lights descending into the trees, and even the unsettling encounter with massive owl-like calls near his property. This episode delves deep into Brad's personal encounters that span from his teenage years to recent years, offering a gripping insight into the mysterious world of Bigfoot.

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All right, Big for Society. We got the privilege of

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talking to Brad today. He's a listener from Oregon that

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reached out with some really interesting things that he's experienced

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over the years. Brad, I'm so glad you reached out

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and I'm excited to talk to you tonight. How's it

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going man.

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Great, Jeremiah, thanks for having me on the show.

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Awesome. We talked a little bit in the pre interview

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and this is going to get pretty interesting. There's even

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some Oakridge, Oregon related stuff for that I'm coming up,

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but Brad, I'm going to give it right over to

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you and we'll get right into it tonight.

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All right, thank you very much, Jeremiah. I grew up

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in Eugene, Oregon, and I was an outdoorsy kind of kid.

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My grandparents lived on the McKenzie River up near the

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town of Vida, and I spent all my childhood free

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time up there roaming the woods and the creeks in

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the hillsides. And grandparents are a little looser than the

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parents are about where the kid is, so I'd had

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free range to in the mountains. I never really thought

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about sasquatch or bigfoot at all growing up, and never

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really had anything happened to me that would make me

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think that there were any bigfoot around. But until I

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was about let's see how old one, I was probably

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around fourteen years old. Fifteen years old. My grandma would

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drive me up these old logging roads with my bow,

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and I would hunt these logging roads on my way

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and just wander my way back to her house down

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these logging roads. And there was a time she dropped

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me off and there about it's about a three or

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four mile walk back down to her house, and I

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was let out of the car, and the birds were

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chirping and the squirrels were chattering at me, and I

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would usually sit and wait, sit in a little burrow

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ditch and wait for her car, so I couldn't hear

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a car anymore. And then I start walking down the

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logging road and never really planned on shooting a deer

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with a bow. It was more of just me being

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out in the woods. But anyway, I heard her car

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disappear out of range, out of my hearing, and all

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of a sudden, I just had this very strange sensation

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of being It's like the forest just went silent, and

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I just got a really weird feeling. So I'm standing

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on the logging road looking down into the ravine below me,

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and these three deer come creeping up out of the ravine,

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really low, really strange movement, hunkered down and almost trying

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to crawl, And they were covered in sweat, totally ladded over,

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and their eyes were bulging out of their heads and

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they walk within I could have reached out and hit

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one with touch one with my arrow. They were so

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close and they could have cared less that I was there.

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I thought that was really weird. And so I'm looking

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down into the ravine where they came from, and a

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tree like it's just got cracked in half and was

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pushed over, and there was no wind, there was no

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reason for it to happen. It sounded like a helfy

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live green fir tree just snapped in half. And that

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was the first encounter. But again in the eighties, I

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wasn't figure it was definitely not on my mind. I

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just thought it strange and wandered on back to my

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grandma's house. And then, let's see, there was another time.

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I'm not going to back up to when I was

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a little.

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Younger and before you do that. So I just want

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to clarify something. So you when you were looking down

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the ravine, youse like you heard that tree get cracked

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in half and pushed over.

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Yeah, I was dear walked by me. I couldn't figure

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out why they were. I'd never seen deer behave like that.

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They were just it was almost like they were creeping

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past me with her and their eyes were bull shout

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and they looked if you see a horse, it's all

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that's been run too hard. They just had this sheen

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of They looked terrified. And then this tree just goes

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crack and goes crashing down to the ground and green,

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not punky, just a green, big fir tree. It sounded

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like a mature tree, and it didn't freak me out,

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but I just was odd and so I high tail it.

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I just losed that to my grandma's house.

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When you were out the woods with your bow, did

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you ever hear any sounds out there that didn't fit

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with what should be out in the wood.

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The only times I ever did are there are those

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stories I'm going to tell you other than that, Okay,

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never which is it's strange. I'd never it never crossed

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my mind. I was never no, no signs, or never

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even crossed my mind. I'll back up a little bit.

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I skipped this one. This has happened when I was

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ten years old on Lost Creek at Lost Creek Campground.

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It's on the west side of Mount Hood in nineteen

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eighty And I know the date exactly because the day

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after this event happened, Mount Saint Helens erupted. So maybe

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nineteen eightys when this happened, and I was camping with

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a family friend to the weekend and again this I

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completely forgot about this until I heard somebody tell a

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similar story. And it's funny how these things come back

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to you when you hear something. It just sparked this memory,

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and I was we were camping at this campground and

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it was a you pluw your trailer in, and it

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was a pretty crowded campground. And there we had a camper,

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there's a tent, there's a cable set up, there was

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a fire pit, so it was a cramped little space.

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And it's night and my friend and I are sleeping

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in the tent and his parents are sleeping in the camper,

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and I'm laying there in bed. I don't know what

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time it was, ken between ten and midnight, probably because

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I wasn't in sleep yet, when I heard what sounded

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like a deer bounding through the camp bump bounding, and

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then it stopped right outside our tent. And we had

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a little cord that was a cold in the vestibule

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if we had it tied around a tree, and we

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just I kept hearing his dump put his twang in

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the cord, and I thought, oh, a deer must have jumped,

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jumped the cord or tripped into the cord or something,

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and then it thunked away. But what was weird is

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a few minutes later I could thump came back and

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it did the same thing. It was twaying in the

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little cord that was holding the vestibule of the camp cup,

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probably two or three twangs like a guitar string, and

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then it stumped, dump, dumped away through camp. That was it.

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So I wake up in the morning. I was like, gosh,

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did you guys hear that deer in camp last night?

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And no one they didn't hear anything. And but then

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I started thinking this, there's no way a deer could

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have run through the camp because it's so there's coolers

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and there's stuff everywhere. Besides, it was flinting. The it

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was it would stomp sumpap up to the camp stop

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and then the little cord would go blinging boying and

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librate the camp. So that happened. It did that two times,

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and that was and then the next morning. That morning

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we forgot all about it because now Saint Helens had

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erupted while we were having breakfast, and you could hear

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the sonic boom and the ground shief and we all

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knew what it was. It was, you know, everyone in

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the Northwest was waiting for it to happen, So that

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sort of trumped whatever happened to me that night, which

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I was pretty cool. And then there was ash all

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over our cars the next day, it was cool. Let's see,

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I got another I'll talk a little bit more about

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what happened upon the McKinsey River where I grew up.

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So let's see, this is a weird one. So the

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year was let's see, I wrote all this stuff, you know, nineteen.

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I was a junior in high school and if my

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grandma was a really cool old lady, and all my

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high school friends would come up there and spend the night.

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She'd cooked for us and we'd fish and run around

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the forest and play in the yard. And she had

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about thirteen acres. And one night we were out playing

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a game called kick the Can, which is like a

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hide and seek game where you put a can in

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the middle field and one person guards it. If someone

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gets tagged and you kick the can, the person who

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you tagged goes free. So we're all out there, probably

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eight of us, out playing this game, and I'm hiding

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in some ferns and all of a sudden, a couple

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of the people who are in that there's two people

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who are it. They're out in the field and they

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stop and they are staring up at the mountain side

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that's next to the property, And pretty soon all the

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rest of the kids come out and they're all looking

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up in the sky and what the heck's going on?

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So I get out of my hiding spot and I

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joined them in the field and I look up and

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there are three green, bluish green I think there were

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bluish green balls of light about the size of beach balls,

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big kind of rubber beach balls you would see at

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like a music festival or something. And there was So

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if I'm looking straight across the property to the hillside

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is twelve o'clock. There was one at about nine o'clock

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that was maybe three or four hundred yards away, not

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on our property, but the next piece of property in

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the above the forest. There there was one probably ten

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o'clock that was right above where this creek runs down

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into our property. And then there was one at about

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one o'clock, and they were just green or beach balls,

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just hovering in the sky, and we're all like, whoa

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what's going on? What's that? We didn't know what they were,

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and the rolodex starts going over in your mind, is

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it a weather? Believing it? What is it? And then

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it was none of that. It was just these balls

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of light and at the same time, so they were

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just stationary in the sky above the fir trees, and

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there were different elevations, so one was down on our

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across from us flat, probably twenty feet above the fir

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trees there, and the other one was another up the hillside.

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They were all the same distance ab of the fir trees,

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if that makes sense, And all of a sudden, at

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the very same time, they started descending into the trees,

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into the fir trees, and you could see all the

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boughs of the fir trees lighting up around them, and

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they just slowly went into the forest at the same time.

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It was really weird, and we freaked out and all

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went back inside and called it at night. So that

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was strange. So the next day, so if this is

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at the end of September, most of the kids left

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that next day and my buddy and I were going

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to go grouse something. We stayed, so we're like, let's

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go grouse someting. And so there's an old logging road

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straight across from my grandma's place, and so we always

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hunt this logging road and we'd hike a couple of

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miles up and there was this really neat kind of

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we're hunting in. I'd say its second growth, So the

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trees probably sixty or seventy years old and pretty mature forest.

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But there was a really cool spot that the loggers

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had left. They didn't cut, maybe eight or nine acres

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with really beautiful old growth. And so we'd go hike

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to that spot, go leave our we'd always leave our

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guns outside that we never took anything in there, any

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guns or weapons, just because it was such as like

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a sort of a sacred place. It was really amazing.

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So we'd go and sit and does it, and then

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we'd hunt back down the road in my grandma's house.

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And there was a so between this neat, little old

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growth section and her house was a giant one of

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those big giant power lines that go across the state,

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those giant high tension power lines, and a little service

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road ran under it. And we'd always we'd go to

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the little old growth spot, come down and then turn

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down the little service room underneath the high tension power

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lines and eat a sandwich and drink something because it

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was in the sun. Because when you're in the on

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these logging roads and these big trees, it's like a

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tunnel and there's no correct sunlight. So we'd always go

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and get a little sunshine on our faces and have

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a sandwich and just sit and look out across the mountains.

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So we've done that, we're on our way back down

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and we're it gets this is where it gets pretty weird.

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And so let me see. So I'm walking, we're walking

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down the road, and we're about to turn turn right

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to go down this little service road, logging road to

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eat our sandwiches. And from the from our right side,

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probably twenty yards in the just off the edge of

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the logging road in the forest, we hear two whoops, yeah,

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you know, really loud, and before we can really acknowledge

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what we just heard, we both just stop and freeze,

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and this way of unbelievable fear that I can't really

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describe came over us. It was like we walked into

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an invisible sort of bull of jelly. I couldn't move

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a muich and my friend, and this fear was I

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can't describe fear. It's just unless it's happened to you.

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I think it's hard to explain. So the hoops happen,

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and then across the little service road there's another The

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forest continues, but it's the face of this forest is

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it gets a lot of sunlight, so there was scotch

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broom blackberries, so you couldn't really see into the little

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thicket of trees that was on the other side. And

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from that side, all of a sudden, and we're frozen

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and we can't move, and all of a sudden, I

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hear the sound. And I've gone online and listened to

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certain animals as I've heard people's accounts, and it sounded

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exactly like if you listen to what an alligator, a

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crocodile sounds like. They vibrate. I don't think they have

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vocal chords, but they make this weird, vibrating noise.

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Big for society, who will be right back after these messages.

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It sounded exactly like that at first, where just my

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eyes are bulging out of my head and the noise

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is just it's reverberating through this whole little landing that

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we're standing in we can kind of at this point,

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I'm sort of like, oh, I'm starting to maybe pivot

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around a little bit. I can my senses are coming back,

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and we're talking back and forth, like what the heck's

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going on? And as we start to talk, that sound

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and it's inhaling and it's just raspy inhale and just

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vibrating out this noise. It sounded like an alligator. And

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then it goes from that sound to and again I've

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listened I've found these sounds online. It sounded like a

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if you ever heard it, listen to a lion while

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it eats, like a big male lion eating kind of

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purrs and growled at the same time, so it would inhale.

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You could hear it inhaling this really raspy noise, and

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then when it would exhale, it would make this sort

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of purring growl like a lion, but it was really loud,

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and all I could think of was, the thing's got

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to be the size of a rhinoceros, whatever's in there,

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and it was doing that. We would inhale and then

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exhale this purring, strange growl, and we're starting to freak

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out a little bit, obviously, and we're thinking to ourselves,

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right in the heck, we're going not a deer, not

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an elk, not coolar, not a bear, and not a

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person in there trying to mess with this. But again

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I'm not thinking Bigfoot at all, and which is weird

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because growing up in Oregon you hear about bigfoot, but

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it just wasn't entering my mind. So we're standing there

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and I'd forgotten we even have guns because we're just

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so scared. So as we start to shift our bodies,

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this is maybe a minute or two has gone by

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since we heard those initial whoops, so it's going by

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pretty quick, and the minds, my mind's just racing, racing,

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trying to figure out what's happening. If we start to talk,

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what are we going to do? How are we going

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to get because we have to walk underneath there because

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the road cuts down below where this is happening in

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this little thicket of trees, and the trees are probably there.

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It's a newer grove of fir trees, and the trees

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were probably thirty forty feet tall, but you couldn't see,

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like I said, you couldn't really see in so We're like, oh, shoot,

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how are we going to get below get out of here?

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Because that thing is, Whatever that thing is, it's mad.

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So as we're shifting and we're starting to talk about

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what we're gonna do, I'm like, we got we each

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have a twelve eight shotgun. We could fire over the trees,

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wait for it to run off, and then booky out

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of there. And the minute I started to put my

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gun to consider lifting it up and firing it, the

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place erupted. It went from this weird, purring growl to

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just this screaming roar of I can't again, I can't

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describe it. It was just blowing through our body, like

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blowing through our bodies, and the trees started to shake,

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and there was branches starting to snap, and I remember

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seeing two trees that were probably thirty five or forty

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feet tall next to each other, just shaken violently back

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and forth. I'm like, gosh, what the heck can be

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doing that? And then they went from back and forth

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to front and back completely different directions at the same time,

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like something was grabbing them with their hands and just

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shaking them back and forth. So we're terrified and we

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don't know what to do, and I think I'm crying

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at this point, and just the cheer just pool overwhelmed.

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So screw it. We got to get out of here.

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So we both agree we're going to shoot over this

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thing over the trees and then bolt underneath it. Hopefully

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it is the sound of our guns will scare it off.

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So yeah, we fire over the tree tops and we

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wait a second to see if we can hear whatever's

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in there take off. It didn't. It's just what we

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thought was pretty much max. It just elevated even worse,

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and it was screaming and making those crazy slams, and

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so we heck with it. We got to go. So

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we bolted and a few hiked on logging roads. You

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know that the rocks, it's not a small little gravel,

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their big rocks, and it's hard to keep their balance.

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And so thinking the whole time is I'm going to

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wipe out and this thing's going to jump down and

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grab me because we're I'm running as fast as I've

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ever had before. My heroes were hit my butt and

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I got a shotgun and hiking boots on, and I'm

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We're hauling down this road and as I'm running underneath

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as we are, as we're running underneath where this thing is.

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I'm just thinking this thing's going to grab me. I'm dead,

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We're going to die. But for some reason, it never did.

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But the hair on my neck, I could just feel

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it above me. I never saw it, but I could

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just tell that there was and it was huffing, and

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at disappoint it had stopped for all the ruckus and

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was just up there huffing and breathing really loudly. And

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I could just feel, because I ran path ran underneath

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the thing, feel it above me, and I just thought

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I was going to reach down and grab me. But

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it never did. And so I booked it to my

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grandma's house, which we had to cross the road and

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down her driveway is probably one hundred yards long to

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afford her house was, and so we'd make it to

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the front yard and she's out in the yard. She

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must have heard the shots, and so she's out there,

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what's wrong, what's going on? I heard shots? And she's

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a tough old lady, and like we told her what happened,

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and we're crying and we're freaked out, and she looked

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at us and says, we ran into a big foot

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and we're like, we looked at each other and like,

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what for some reason, it's just still not sinking in.

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That's what it was. And we're like, what do you

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mean we ran into a big foot? And she says, well,

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there's a pizza joint that's down the road from on

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the highway from her house that her and her friend

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would go to every Friday night and have her glass

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of wine and eat pizza. And she was telling me

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that they told us that when she would go, her

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and her friend Ellen would go and have pizza and

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drink wine, the loggers would. It was the loggers hang

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out back in the eighties. You know, the logging industry

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was very different back then. There's smaller operations and families

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and things. It was different than it is now. But

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that's where all the loggers would go and on Friday

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night hang out. She said that she'd overhear the loggers

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talk about things like this happening to them in the forest.

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She said, I would hear a story after story of

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these sort of things happening, and hear them from these

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loggers who are out there doing it logging. And we're

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in the forest every day. That's it. And so the

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next day. So it didn't really affect me the way

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I hear people talk about getting terrified of going back

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in the woods. It was like it was erased from

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my mind. So the next day I'm up there and

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my friend had to leave, we had to go back

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to the Eugene, and so I stayed and I said, Grandma,

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I'm going to go and back up to where that

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happened and look around and see what I can see,

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because I'm still thinking. For whatever reason, I couldn't get

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it into my head that it was a big for

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it or sasquatch. I kept I'm going to go look

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for hoofs track. So I'm going to go look for

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claw more in the tree because that's what I thought

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it was. For some reason, I go up there. It's

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not very far away. It's probably less than a quarter

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of a mile from her house up this road, the

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logging road. So I go into this thicket where this

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had happened, and there's I'm not I knew nothing about

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bigfoot tracks or what to look for in that regard.

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I'm just looking for cliffs prints, I'm looking for scrapes

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from antlers, and I'm looking for clom marks and there

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was none of that. But what was weird is that

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when I got into the thicket, because it had snapped

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a bunch of fur boughs, and there should have been

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broken boughs, you could see where they'd been broken off

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the trees where this scene had snapped them fresh breaks,

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but there were zero. I couldn't find any fur boughs

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on the ground. They were gone. Something picked them up

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and take them away, And the ground was really beat down.

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It's a lot of fur needles and things where I

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couldn't make out any tracks. I didn't see an obviously

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cooked prints or clal marks in the tree. So now

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I was saying it and I just forgot about it

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after that.

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That is an incredible account, even though there wasn't a visual.

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That is a wild encounter. Do you think that pizza

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place is still there?

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I still go there? Yeah?

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Is that is that Ike's pizza?

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It's Ikes pizza him?

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All right, we can cut that out if you want.

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No, that's fine, Yeah, Ike's Pizza for sure.

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Yeah, I just I have a Google Maps up. The

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interesting thing I noticed is while you were telling that story,

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you were talking about how it was like alligators. How Yeah,

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the weird thing is that the thing you were, the

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thing you were describing, that's actually an infrasound thing. Oh

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it is if you look it up like when they

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used as bellows, that's an infrasound.

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Oh no, way crazy. I didn't know. So you kept

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doing that. H yeah, yeah, that's weird because I've heard

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someone mention it on a that that's what it sounded

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like to them, And so I went and listened to

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it and say, whoa, that's exactly what it sounded like.

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And it just I don't know what and for sound does,

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but man, I was frozen. We couldn't move. It was

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like I walked into the invisible force field and was

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frozen in grace. It was so weird. I didn't feel sick,

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I never got knopious or anything. I just couldn't move

451
00:25:27.559 --> 00:25:30.240
and I was so scared that I was crying, and

452
00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:32.960
for no reason, because I don't think I think it

453
00:25:33.200 --> 00:25:37.160
that the wave when we froze halpened before I even

454
00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:40.640
heard anything. I think I was frozen in place before

455
00:25:40.640 --> 00:25:43.960
I even started hearing that alligator type sound.

456
00:25:44.599 --> 00:25:48.279
That's wild. That element is enough for me to hearing.

457
00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:52.400
That's enough that you definitely experienced some crazy stuff in

458
00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:54.559
the woods that day, No question.

459
00:25:54.400 --> 00:25:59.160
It was bizarre. Yeah, it was weird. So end this

460
00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:03.119
part of the story. So I'd completely forgotten about this event.

461
00:26:03.359 --> 00:26:05.920
I was getting ready to graduate high school that next year,

462
00:26:05.920 --> 00:26:08.720
and I after I graduated high school, I'd moved to

463
00:26:08.759 --> 00:26:12.480
Idaho and became a ski bum for about a decade

464
00:26:12.519 --> 00:26:15.519
and spent all that time just in the mountain Idaho,

465
00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:20.200
exploring skiing, fishing, all types of all times of year,

466
00:26:20.319 --> 00:26:25.000
all seasons, and never even thought about sasquatch or Bigfoot

467
00:26:25.279 --> 00:26:30.119
getting crossed my mind and my ski bumb career and

468
00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:32.880
the years about. It's about two thousand and two and

469
00:26:32.920 --> 00:26:36.119
I'm going to school in Boise at Boise State University

470
00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:40.359
be my teaching certificate. And Boise is a really cool city.

471
00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:43.079
There's the river runs right through town, and on the

472
00:26:43.119 --> 00:26:45.279
south side of the river there's the college, and on

473
00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:47.400
the north side of the river there are all these

474
00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:52.039
really pretty parks and concert little concert shells and things.

475
00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:55.240
And there's an old zoo, like an old one of

476
00:26:55.240 --> 00:26:58.799
the old school, small town depressing looking zoos, and so

477
00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:00.799
I would have to foot bridge. You get to the

478
00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:04.160
colleges right next to the zoo. So I think I'm

479
00:27:04.200 --> 00:27:06.880
a junior or something at this point, and I'm cruising

480
00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:09.559
on my bike and it's early in the morning, and

481
00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:14.480
I'm riding past the zoo and I hear these whoops

482
00:27:14.680 --> 00:27:18.079
coming from the zoo. I'm thirty one years old, and

483
00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:20.000
this happened. This event happened to me back when I

484
00:27:20.039 --> 00:27:23.599
was seventeen years old, and I just instantly froze on

485
00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:29.200
my bike and stopped and was just catapulted back to

486
00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:32.839
that discipline that I just told you about. Like instantly,

487
00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:35.559
I could see the color of the rocks, I could

488
00:27:35.559 --> 00:27:40.519
see the shit shadows, every tiny detail just came flooding

489
00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:42.759
back into me. When I heard these whoops coming from

490
00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:46.319
the zoo, it was really weird. And I had to

491
00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:48.240
go to class and the zoo hadn't opened yet, so

492
00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:50.599
I was like, I'm going once the zoo opens, I'm

493
00:27:50.640 --> 00:27:53.319
going over there and ask the zookeeper what the heck

494
00:27:53.799 --> 00:27:57.759
makes those noises? So I do, I go, Hey, I don't,

495
00:27:57.920 --> 00:27:59.359
I'm not. I don't want to go through the zoo.

496
00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:01.519
I just want to No, I want to go to

497
00:28:01.519 --> 00:28:04.640
your primate area and will you show me. I've heard

498
00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:07.359
these really loud hoops this morning. Here, get what makes

499
00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:10.279
those noises, and he took me to the given cage

500
00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:12.839
and he goes, those are those are Givens, and that's

501
00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:15.039
what you heard in the morning, and they were making

502
00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:17.920
a little bit of whooping sounds, but it was identical,

503
00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:22.119
a little higher pitch and obviously smaller lunk capacy, but

504
00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:25.839
it was the exact same sound that I'd heard in

505
00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:29.200
the forest. It was bizarre. It froze me on my bike,

506
00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:32.240
like I stopped. I was oblivious at whatever was going

507
00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:35.359
on around me. I was just transported back to that

508
00:28:35.559 --> 00:28:39.640
gay in the forest. And up to that point, like

509
00:28:39.640 --> 00:28:43.079
I said, I hadn't never even crossed my mind until

510
00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:45.880
I heard those Givens coming from the zoo.

511
00:28:46.519 --> 00:28:50.559
I'm so glad that you said the little higher pitch

512
00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:57.240
because I personally have heard similar things and I was

513
00:28:57.279 --> 00:28:59.319
just thinking in my mind. I was like, it is

514
00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:01.880
very much the same, but it's a little lower. And

515
00:29:01.920 --> 00:29:05.119
when you said little higher pitch, I was like, yeah, absolutely,

516
00:29:05.680 --> 00:29:06.720
one hundred percent.

517
00:29:06.599 --> 00:29:09.079
But the same kind of sound, just yeah, just a

518
00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:12.920
little higher tit. It was weird that would just that

519
00:29:13.079 --> 00:29:18.400
sound catapulted me back in times and every single Geekaill

520
00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:22.440
just became so vivid. It was bizarre, not a terrible memory.

521
00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:24.759
I can't remember anything. I don't know what I had

522
00:29:24.759 --> 00:29:27.079
for dinner last night. But how in the heck that

523
00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:29.240
could happen and everything be so clear? It was just

524
00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:31.160
it was really strange, that's wild.

525
00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:35.359
I have a few questions before we leave this part.

526
00:29:35.920 --> 00:29:37.880
Did you ever ask your grandma if she had any

527
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:40.640
bigfoot experiences when you were out there with you.

528
00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:45.000
Know, I don't, I don't remember, but she never would

529
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:47.160
have told me anyway. She was pretty sure she wouldn't

530
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:48.960
because she wouldn't want to scare them from going back

531
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:51.640
in the forest. Gotcha, because it didn't slow me out

532
00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:54.160
of bed, I just kept going back out. Yeah, So

533
00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:55.039
I didn't ever.

534
00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:58.279
Asked big for society who would be right back? After

535
00:29:58.359 --> 00:30:17.599
these messages, I share with the Patriot members a little

536
00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:21.640
bit about upcoming episodes, and they're really interested to read

537
00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:24.519
about what you had sent over. And some of them

538
00:30:24.599 --> 00:30:27.200
had some bombers like, Hey, if you guys have questions

539
00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:30.039
for this INTERVIEWEE put them in the comments. So there's

540
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:32.200
a few that are actually related to this part. I

541
00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:38.400
believe slayas have these events? Have they affected your ability

542
00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:40.359
to be in the mountains, in the woods, at all,

543
00:30:40.599 --> 00:30:43.319
or did it not affect you in a way where

544
00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:45.279
you're like, I'm never going in the woods again.

545
00:30:46.079 --> 00:30:50.160
It didn't, Like I said, I forgot about it for

546
00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:54.079
some reason. It never weather, It never slowed me down again.

547
00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:56.759
Like I k moved to Idaho and was I spent.

548
00:30:57.200 --> 00:30:59.920
I was out in the woods all the time. Now

549
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:03.519
were gotcha? Never had a negative effect. And even now

550
00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:06.599
I live back in Oregon and we're out all the time.

551
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:12.039
I'm aware and I'm very conscious of that, and I

552
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:14.880
treat the florest a little differently, I think, in terms

553
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:18.440
of how I approach it. You know, I'm a lot

554
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:21.000
I have a lot more gratitude. Absolutely.

555
00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:26.079
Scott had some questions. They're interesting. So you alluded to

556
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:29.880
how if you grow up in the Pacific Northwest you

557
00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:33.640
know about Bigfoot? Right, So his question is living in

558
00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:36.279
the Pacific Northwest, Bigfoot seems to be part of the culture.

559
00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:39.400
Were you a believer before your experiences and you had

560
00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:42.400
some really young age experiences.

561
00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:45.480
Yeah, but I'd never equated that the big Foot until

562
00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:48.319
I heard someone talk about it on the podcast, and

563
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:50.119
then I was like, well, kind of like the bike

564
00:31:50.240 --> 00:31:53.440
thing of the zoo just triggered this event. So someone

565
00:31:53.519 --> 00:31:56.400
mentioned it on their shirt on I was like, oh, wow,

566
00:31:56.480 --> 00:31:58.599
that kind of happened to me. Yeah, I had a

567
00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:01.000
hunch it was really you know, I seeing the Roger

568
00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:05.039
Patterson film, and I think at that point though, when

569
00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:07.279
I was a kid, I felt like they just there

570
00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:08.880
was one of them and that's where they lived down

571
00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:12.079
in California, and we joked we did a lot of camping,

572
00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:15.039
and we were always joking about it that I don't

573
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:17.559
think anybody took it serious for some at least that

574
00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:20.400
the people hind knew. And then there's circle of friends

575
00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:24.559
I hung out with until that point, can but you

576
00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:27.240
hear about it that it just was never I don't

577
00:32:27.240 --> 00:32:28.680
know if we wanted it to be true because it

578
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:31.200
would keep us from going out. Maybe we just turned

579
00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:35.039
it out. We camped in places where I hear about accounts,

580
00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:38.920
the Coast range outs all over the place, and aside

581
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:41.200
from these few events that I've had happened to me,

582
00:32:41.400 --> 00:32:43.039
for the amount of time I spent out there, these

583
00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:43.799
are very few.

584
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:46.960
There was also an interesting part where you were sharing

585
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:50.079
about the lights coming down into the trees and you

586
00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:51.920
saw those large lights so.

587
00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:54.960
The rights, Yeah, that was really weird. There were three

588
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:58.079
of them, and there was one that came down to

589
00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:00.240
our I guess that would be to the east. It

590
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:03.480
was maybe at the edge of our property, or maybe

591
00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:05.359
just passed the edge of our property. We had about

592
00:33:05.359 --> 00:33:08.680
thirteen meters and it just into the forest. And then

593
00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:10.519
there was one that there's a creek that runs through

594
00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:15.480
our property and it comes down the mountain across the road,

595
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:17.960
and one of the lights went down and on the

596
00:33:18.079 --> 00:33:20.960
left side, to the east side of that drainage, and

597
00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:23.960
the other one came down basically right on top before

598
00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:28.079
this encounter happened. Oh really the next day, Yeah, so

599
00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:30.920
this the third light was the light came down into

600
00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:34.680
basically that because it was I'd Google Earth the distance

601
00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:36.799
and it was five hundred and twenty yards away as

602
00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:40.119
the prostbark and it was basically just right on top

603
00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:43.880
before that happened. And I never crossed my mind until

604
00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:49.839
I never connected the two until I started hearing accounts

605
00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:53.720
with lights and satin sasquatch being related. And I don't

606
00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:56.400
know whether or not this, but I never saw those

607
00:33:56.480 --> 00:33:59.039
lights and I had never really had an encounter like

608
00:33:59.079 --> 00:34:02.079
that until are they connected? I don't know.

609
00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:05.839
That's pretty close to what is I think he was

610
00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:08.480
getting at Scott was getting out with his question perhaps

611
00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:11.440
relations to lights, was seeing that he may believe that

612
00:34:11.480 --> 00:34:15.800
there are big paranormal ties or just a coincidence, or

613
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:17.760
or just a lot of questions.

614
00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:21.480
Yeah, I don't know. I don't like the word paranormal.

615
00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:24.760
I just think it's nature that we don't know about

616
00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:27.719
love it. Yeah, I think it's beyond I think it

617
00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:29.639
just has been happening. And I don't know if he's

618
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:32.239
two or connected, but it just seemed weird that the

619
00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:38.039
light literally went into the forest where this occurred. And

620
00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:41.440
again I never made that connection until when I started

621
00:34:41.440 --> 00:34:44.440
listening to podcasts even that dal what is happening and

622
00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:46.559
I'm like, oh, the light came down and now there's

623
00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:49.400
something in there. It was started the sting from my mind,

624
00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:51.840
which is bizarre now that I keep back.

625
00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:54.599
And what are the chances that you have this light

626
00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:56.639
coming down almost in the same area where you have

627
00:34:56.719 --> 00:35:00.559
this encounter, And it's like that, man, it's got to

628
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:04.679
be connected somehow, But yeah, we just don't acknowledge you.

629
00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:07.480
And that now having heard enough people being interviewed who

630
00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:11.840
have had similar things happen, people are so afraid they're

631
00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:15.880
just say you could. I think that's probably connected. How

632
00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:18.480
could it not, because I've never seen lights before that,

633
00:35:18.559 --> 00:35:20.880
and I never had an accounter Clait in that spot,

634
00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:23.159
which is too much for coincidence.

635
00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:27.239
Any UFO activity ever in this area, not in that area.

636
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:27.760
Hu huh.

637
00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:31.760
That's pretty fantastic. Feel free to continue. I know, I

638
00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:34.639
think we have a few other things to discuss as well.

639
00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:37.519
I've got yeah, I've got a couple more on These

640
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:42.000
are not related to this robbery on the Mackenzie either.

641
00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:45.719
More along the Lamit Pass area, which is from Eugene

642
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:48.199
at south, so you go through oak Ridge and you'll

643
00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:51.280
end up at Crater Lake and if you keep going south,

644
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:53.760
you'll end up in Flammoth Falls. But when I wasn't

645
00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:57.039
at up at the Mackenzie at my grandma's place, I

646
00:35:57.159 --> 00:36:00.320
was out. My dad loved to fly fish, and he

647
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:03.360
got me into fly fishing when I was really young,

648
00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:06.360
and we would He had a spot up right in

649
00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:08.480
the town of oak Ridge where there's an old I

650
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:10.159
don't know what's there now, but there was a rock

651
00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:13.280
corry in town and the river of the Lammette River

652
00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:17.760
flowed through at the bottom of town and we would

653
00:36:17.800 --> 00:36:23.159
fish this rock Corry and it was really excellent trout fishing.

654
00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:27.239
And I was with my dad. I was probably twelve

655
00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:30.679
or thirteen years old, and we were up fishing the

656
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:34.880
rock corry and we'd caught some fish and there was

657
00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:39.159
a little isolated pool of water up against the hillside

658
00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:42.519
that the fish couldn't get out of. So I didn't

659
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:45.320
keep fish or we didn't eat them. We'dn't let them go.

660
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:48.639
We'd catch them release them, but I would. I was young,

661
00:36:48.679 --> 00:36:50.679
and so I put him in this little pool of

662
00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:54.920
water and just watched him swim around. I was gonna

663
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:58.360
let him go eventually, and my dad, okay, let's go

664
00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:01.760
up and around the corner and fish this riffle. And

665
00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:04.960
we're like all right, so we leave the fish. There's

666
00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:07.920
probably four or five fish a rainbow trout in this

667
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:13.760
pool that's probably the size of a little plastic kiddie pool.

668
00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:16.800
But there's no way in or out. There's no way

669
00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:19.199
for the fish to get out, and it was in

670
00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:20.840
the shade I put it. I made sure they were

671
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:25.039
in the shade. The forest came down and so the

672
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:27.920
fish had some shade, and I was gonna let them

673
00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:30.599
go when we got back, So we go with fish,

674
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:34.480
and we come back and the fish are just completely gone.

675
00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:38.400
There's no sign that a bird had come and plucked

676
00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:42.480
them or anything. It was just really strange. One minute

677
00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:45.280
the little pools full of fish and the next minute

678
00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:47.679
they're gone. I don't know if that has anything to

679
00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:50.039
do with Bigfoot that it was really weird, and it

680
00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:54.719
was up against the hillside and it was just an

681
00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:57.239
odd to come back. And we both looked at you

682
00:37:57.039 --> 00:37:59.159
just like, you know, where'd they go? There were no

683
00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:01.719
ravens around, there were no I don't know what could

684
00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:06.239
have came in took that many fish. So that's an

685
00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:10.239
interesting side note. And then I have one more. And

686
00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:15.039
this happened at Murray Lake in nineteen eighty seven. I

687
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:18.239
was a senior in high school and we were there

688
00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:20.440
were five of us, and we're going to go. Three

689
00:38:20.440 --> 00:38:22.039
of us we're going to hike. We're going to camp

690
00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:24.800
at Murray Lake. And three of us we're going to

691
00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:28.039
hike the south side of Diamond Peak and ski the

692
00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:31.239
snowfields up there and come back and camp. And the

693
00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:32.760
other two guys we're going to hang out at the

694
00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:36.039
camp and fish. We leave the trailhead and we're hiking

695
00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:39.559
to the lake and we get maybe a mile and

696
00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:41.800
a half two miles into the hike and we come

697
00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:45.000
to a lily. So this is all pine trees and

698
00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:48.679
it's high desert y mountains. It's not rush like it

699
00:38:48.719 --> 00:38:52.159
is on the on the McKenzie where there's ferns and

700
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:56.280
big fir trees and stupets. Are a bit different ecosystem.

701
00:38:56.599 --> 00:38:58.880
So we're hiking through these dry pine this little dry

702
00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:01.639
pine forest, and we dip down into this space and

703
00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:05.760
that's maybe four or five, three or four acres. Then

704
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:08.639
it's just but it's and it it turns into a

705
00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:15.280
totally different clay ecosystem. It's there's ferns, there's cedar trees,

706
00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:18.360
it's just there. It's really beautiful. There's a little bog

707
00:39:18.599 --> 00:39:22.880
like a fresh water bog type spring coming out of

708
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:27.400
the ground. It's beautiful. And as we're there's five of

709
00:39:27.480 --> 00:39:30.320
us and we're walking in and we're all thinking the

710
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:33.000
same thing, Oh wow, we're going to explore this is

711
00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:36.840
really pretty. And the minute we all got to this

712
00:39:37.960 --> 00:39:39.639
the crown of this little the trail where we were

713
00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:43.599
going to drop down into the this area, this smell

714
00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:47.480
just wopped in on us, like I don't know, like

715
00:39:48.079 --> 00:39:52.880
really needed dead, like skunt cabbage times ten with I

716
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:55.800
don't know how to explain this awful smell came out

717
00:39:55.840 --> 00:39:59.840
of nowhere, and we instantly all decided we're just going

718
00:39:59.920 --> 00:40:04.360
to let's just keep going and keep walking. Not for

719
00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:06.880
us not to explo something that cool at that age,

720
00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:09.480
you know, as a kid, it was bizarre that we

721
00:40:09.559 --> 00:40:12.760
all chose to keep going, and then the smell just

722
00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:16.719
instantly vanished as we left that spot. So we get

723
00:40:16.760 --> 00:40:21.559
to this lake and where we say, nothing happens, there's

724
00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:24.960
we just camp. Everything's normal. So next morning, two of

725
00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:28.360
my buddies and I hike Diamond Peak and we can

726
00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:30.360
go and we're skiing and we make it back to

727
00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:34.360
camp and there's a note they tacked up and left.

728
00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:37.400
The other two guys split they were gonna fish while

729
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:41.719
we speed and we got back to camp and they'd left,

730
00:40:41.719 --> 00:40:45.039
and there was a note saying mosquitos were too thick,

731
00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:48.280
so we left. So you're back in town. But the

732
00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:50.800
mosquitoes weren't that bad. It was weird. It's not like

733
00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:53.920
them to peel out of here, especially during the day

734
00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:56.239
when there's the bugs are not real buggy during the day.

735
00:40:56.960 --> 00:41:01.159
So I found whatever so we camped and nothing, really

736
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:04.880
nothing happens, and we get back to town the next

737
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:08.320
day and when we run into our buddies, they're like, hey,

738
00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:11.159
it wasn't that buggy. How why did you guys leave?

739
00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:14.519
And it took him a second and they looked at

740
00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:17.599
each other funny and said, the truth is, when we

741
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:21.800
were fishing, we kept hearing noises coming out of the forest.

742
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:26.320
We kept hearing sticks breaking, and we kept hearing strange

743
00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:30.079
grunting noises. And we played it off as a bear

744
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:33.039
at first and thought nothing of it. Thought we'll just

745
00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:35.079
go around the other side of the lake and fish.

746
00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:38.000
But they said it followed him around the lake. They

747
00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:40.840
could hear it chasing him in the forest and was

748
00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:43.519
making these weird noises at him. And that's all I

749
00:41:43.559 --> 00:41:46.159
got from them. They said. So we got back to

750
00:41:46.199 --> 00:41:49.320
camp and just felt really uneasy and decided we'd tell

751
00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:51.199
you that it was too buggy, and we split. We

752
00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:54.440
got out of there. We were scared. And that's that's

753
00:41:54.519 --> 00:41:55.159
that story.

754
00:41:55.880 --> 00:41:58.000
What year was that around?

755
00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:00.880
That was night? That was night? Here I wrote it

756
00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:02.760
down The Diamond Peak nineteen eighty seven.

757
00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:09.639
Okay, interesting, There is a report on the BFRO from

758
00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:14.760
Diamond Peak Wilderness area where three hunters are out there

759
00:42:14.760 --> 00:42:18.760
they hear a very loud scream thirty to forty five seconds.

760
00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:23.440
There are reported things from that area, at least one

761
00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:26.639
report that's public, but that whole area, from what it

762
00:42:26.719 --> 00:42:30.400
sounds like is there's activity all over the place.

763
00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:35.280
Yeah, it's it is very The problem what's happened in

764
00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:39.119
the last handful of years is forest fires that's ravaged

765
00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:42.679
some of these places where I'm telling you about this

766
00:42:42.760 --> 00:42:46.360
place on the McKenzie through maybe twenty twenty just got

767
00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:50.800
that whole valley got wiped out by forest fire there

768
00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:53.719
hill side and all these things happened to me on

769
00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:59.159
it's gone now it's burnt. Oh wow, it's depressing. It's

770
00:42:59.199 --> 00:43:02.320
really sad. So yeah, I don't know. It's coming back

771
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:05.119
a little bit. There's some greenery growing, but the big

772
00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:06.599
thir I don't know how long it's going to be

773
00:43:06.679 --> 00:43:10.400
until the fir trees come back. There's some maples growing

774
00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:13.599
and things like that, and some ferns, but it got

775
00:43:13.599 --> 00:43:16.960
cooked pretty good. I think that's about all they got.

776
00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:19.960
Oh there's a couple of other things if you want

777
00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:24.199
to hear about this happened in twenty seventeen or twenty eighteen,

778
00:43:24.239 --> 00:43:26.360
I think somewhere in there. Like I said, I lived

779
00:43:26.400 --> 00:43:32.000
in Idaho. I'd moved to Idaho in nineteen eighty nine

780
00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:37.400
and came back in twenty twelve and we moved back

781
00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:41.119
to central Oregon, but we still have the property on

782
00:43:41.159 --> 00:43:43.840
the Mackenzie and I still have it today. I spent

783
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:46.400
a lot of time over there. But so in twenty

784
00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:53.039
seventeen or eighteen, it was Thanksgiving around Thanksgiving and I

785
00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:56.199
was out and this happened a couple nights in a row.

786
00:43:56.280 --> 00:43:58.800
Was really bizarre. I'm out in the yard. It gets

787
00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:02.599
start real early, maybe five or six in the evening,

788
00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:05.880
but it's pretty it's dark, and it's pouring down rain.

789
00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:09.079
It rained a lot over there, and I don't know

790
00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:11.760
what I'm outside doing, using them, going to the bathroom

791
00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:15.519
or something. And I hear what sounds like up and

792
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:18.239
it's like I had said, there's a creek that runs

793
00:44:18.239 --> 00:44:21.880
through a property and it drains out on this hillside

794
00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:25.960
across the road. And I heard what sounded like the

795
00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:31.239
truck breaks screeching down like the like they sound like

796
00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:34.960
they're wet and screeching down a road. Just this weird

797
00:44:35.119 --> 00:44:39.000
metallic grindy sound coming from where there was no roads

798
00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:42.039
at all. It was just a ravine with a creek

799
00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:44.960
in it, and it was really loud and freaky. It

800
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:47.800
was just like what the heck, but it sounded just

801
00:44:47.960 --> 00:44:51.679
like metal on metal breaks. And I heard it maybe

802
00:44:51.719 --> 00:44:54.960
two or three nights in a row, and then on

803
00:44:55.039 --> 00:44:58.559
that same time for a me maybe a day or

804
00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:01.639
two later, my neighbor comes up over and he's maybe

805
00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:04.519
a couple one hundred yards down river from me, and

806
00:45:04.519 --> 00:45:07.760
he's like, Man, I was in my house and I

807
00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:12.719
started hearing these owls coming from your property, like huge owls,

808
00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:18.320
giant owls coming from your property. So I went outside

809
00:45:18.320 --> 00:45:20.599
and I was listening, and I could hear them. They

810
00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:23.679
sounded like owls, but it was like they're huge and

811
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:26.519
the way too, but they sounded like owls, but they

812
00:45:26.519 --> 00:45:28.920
didn't sound like owls because they were huge. And I

813
00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:32.559
kept so I started walking towards your property, and that

814
00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:36.719
sound kept going on, but it kept moving away. So

815
00:45:36.920 --> 00:45:39.199
the closer I'd get, the further it would they would

816
00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:42.280
move off, until it sounded like they were in the

817
00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:45.599
forest on the east side of your house, and they

818
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:49.079
just it just vanished. The noise stopped, which I again,

819
00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:52.880
at that time Big Flip, I had not ever heard

820
00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:55.159
a Big Floot podcast, and I just thought that was weird.

821
00:45:55.639 --> 00:45:59.719
Same with the brake screeching thing. But now knowing what

822
00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:02.679
I know because of not being listened to these podcasts,

823
00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:05.760
it's like, huh, you hear about al and you hear

824
00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:08.679
about these weird sounds. I thought I'd add that to

825
00:46:08.920 --> 00:46:10.519
some of the things that I've experienced.

826
00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:14.119
That's probably that's some of the weirdest things. And this

827
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:17.880
is back in twenty seventeen. You said, Yeah, seventeen or eighteen,

828
00:46:18.000 --> 00:46:22.880
I can't remember. In November, so you still own that property?

829
00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:25.880
Oh yeah, I'm there all the time. Oh okay, And

830
00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:27.960
I'm a school teacher, so I get it. I spend

831
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:29.119
my whole summer over there.

832
00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:35.480
Nice anything weird sound like that? Sound wise happened lately

833
00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:38.440
or just the last time was back in seventeen or eighteen,

834
00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:39.159
that was it.

835
00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:41.840
Yeah, And then, like I said, in twenty twenty, the

836
00:46:41.880 --> 00:46:45.280
fires put through there, and yeah, took everything out. But

837
00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:48.239
I did set up a game cam before, and I

838
00:46:48.239 --> 00:46:50.719
wouldn't get anything. I got tugers and bears and deer

839
00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:54.400
and turkeys. That was it. But Yeah, it was. It

840
00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:58.320
sounded like breaks screeching down coming down the creek pad

841
00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:02.000
basically when they're there's no road. It was bizarre. And

842
00:47:02.039 --> 00:47:03.920
then I had never heard the owls, but my neighbors

843
00:47:03.920 --> 00:47:06.280
said it freaked them out. He said, you could hear

844
00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:10.000
him over his TV one hundred yards down river from me.

845
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:13.679
So he's an older city guy, so he didn't know

846
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:14.480
what to make of it.

847
00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:19.559
I definitely feel like there's some sort of memicry that's involved.

848
00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:23.199
You hear things like what you mentioned. You also hear

849
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:28.960
things like car doors slamming where there's no cars, or

850
00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:34.000
rusty gates is one that's just it's very strange.

851
00:47:34.519 --> 00:47:37.480
Yeah, the rusty metal, that's what it sounded like, rusty metal,

852
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:40.199
and it's bizarre, and it was loud. It was just

853
00:47:40.559 --> 00:47:42.880
right across the road for me up on the villa,

854
00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:44.760
and then there are a couple of logging roads up there,

855
00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:46.800
but this was nowhere near one of the roads.

856
00:47:48.119 --> 00:47:49.719
It was just coming out of the forest.

857
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:55.199
Which knows You've definitely had some really interesting things happen

858
00:47:56.280 --> 00:47:58.599
over your life so far, and thank you so much

859
00:47:58.679 --> 00:48:04.239
for sharing with myself and the listeners, and it's amazing

860
00:48:04.280 --> 00:48:07.559
you still have that property area up there. Yeah, aything

861
00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:10.559
else happens, definitely, feel free to reach out.

862
00:48:11.199 --> 00:48:14.480
I will indeed. Yeah, thank you for having me on

863
00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:18.199
the show. I appreciate your time and I'd love listening

864
00:48:18.239 --> 00:48:19.039
to your podcast.

865
00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:21.599
Do you think you might make it down to Oakridge

866
00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:22.639
this summer coming up.

867
00:48:23.400 --> 00:48:25.800
I'll have to look at my schedule. Yeah, i'd like to.

868
00:48:26.159 --> 00:48:28.719
I've never been to one of these before. And my

869
00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:33.400
twelve year old son is heavy into the whole sasquatch thing,

870
00:48:33.480 --> 00:48:36.480
so I might bring him over and check it out,

871
00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:37.559
maybe camp or something.

872
00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:39.639
It's going to be a hop and time. If he's

873
00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:42.079
in the Bigfoot, there's gonna be people there that it's

874
00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:45.440
the time that they're in Oregon. They probably won't be

875
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:46.039
there again.

876
00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:50.079
But man, I know we make it over to Cliff's

877
00:48:50.199 --> 00:48:53.559
Museum once a year, little pilgrimage. So we'll go and

878
00:48:53.880 --> 00:48:55.719
we'll go and get a little place in the forest

879
00:48:55.760 --> 00:48:59.679
and go squatching and go cock the cliff a little bit.

880
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:01.440
So that's pretty fun.

881
00:49:01.599 --> 00:49:02.480
How cool is that?

882
00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:06.519
Man? Yeah? And those flips I heard, And he's got

883
00:49:06.519 --> 00:49:10.800
that giant fasquatching is museum yep. And he's got to

884
00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:12.599
hook up some sound hooked up to and that's what

885
00:49:12.639 --> 00:49:15.159
those whips sound exactly like what he's got.

886
00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:17.920
Going on in Murray and Sasquatch love it. Yeah, I

887
00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:20.039
got to get over there myself one day for sure.

888
00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:23.440
But it's cool. Yeah, keeps adding to it, so we

889
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:24.559
keep going back.

890
00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:28.159
Absolutely, Brad, thank you so much for hanging out and

891
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:31.199
I hope to maybe hear from you again someday in

892
00:49:31.239 --> 00:49:31.760
the future.

893
00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:34.199
NB Jeremiah, thank you so much.

894
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:37.760
Just want to take a few minutes to say thank

895
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:41.880
you to you all my listeners for listening to the podcast.

896
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904
00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:13.239
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906
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Here's the list. The Subtle Lake area of Oregon, Rainbow, Oregon,

907
00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:28.000
McKinsey Bridge, area Sweet Home, pretty much that entire area,

908
00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:31.840
the north part. If you get what I mean, I'll

909
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