Bigfoot on My Family Farm: Generations of Encounters!

0:00 Welcome to Big for Society. If you have Bigfoot activity to report from the same area as discussed in this episode, please reach out to me directly after this episode. And if you'd like to be on the podcast to discuss a personal bigfoot encounter, please reach out to me directly at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. Do you wish there was more Big for Society to listen to you every week? Well there is now. If you become a supporting member over at Patreon, you get a special members only episode every single week on Wednesdays, and sometimes even more episodes. Head on over to patreon dot com. Forward slash the big for Society and now let's get on with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society. I've got the privilege of talking to Matt today. Matt is an individual having some Bigfoot activity on his family farm area in northeast Missouri. It's a privilege to talk to you today, Matt.

0:49 How's it going. It's going great. Thank you very much. It's nice to speak to you. Thank you. And you know, the more that we talked about this before the episode, the more excited I'm getting for because I mean, you're telling me things like this has been going on for an extended period of time, So I'm going to give the reins over to you and please share what you've been experiencing over the years. Matt oh Yeah, So a little background in the area. I'm in northeast Missouri and Pike County, Missouri, which some people may know it for the Momo sightings, the Missouri Monster from the early seventies, and I mean the sightings go back farther than that. They're still going on today. And the farm, we have a couple of hundred acres just kind of out in the middle of nowhere that has been in the family. Well, I mean there's sue, there's been about seven eight generations of my family on this farm. My dad was the first one to actually purchase it, but where he lived. My grandfather was kind of like what you would call a mountain man nowadays, and he hunted and trapped in this area. My dad was in this area growing up, and my grandfather, my dad, and my mom had had sightings and encounters.

2:08 My older brother he had had a couple sidings, and my son, my son in law, my wife, my daughter, We've all had encounters over I mean over generations. But I'll tell you a little bit about my first one, and that happened back in the early nineteen nineties. I was in college, nineteen years old. I lived in a suburb of Saint Louis, which was about an hour away, and you know, me and my friends, we would come up here camping every chance that we got. You know, this was kind of our little escape. We loved it. And I had come up here with I'm they're probably about eight or nine of us one night and we were camping. We've been writing for wheelers around and at this point, and when this happened, I didn't think anything of it because, you know, as college kids, I'd had a few beers. We were driving around on ATVs and I see what I thought was was my dog way up on the hill in this back area, and then all of a sudden, my dog runs past me on the four wheeler and I look and this thing was, I don't know, seven eight foot high on the level ground that I was on. I just turned around and went back. Thought it was nothing, you know, And the only reason, you know, if there's alcohol involved, I usually don't even talk about sightings, But the

3:40 only reason I'm bringing this up is because six months later is when I had my first what I consider my first real sighting, and me and the body of mine were coming up. It was March. I think it was early maybe April. The uh well, no, I take that back. It would have been a little later than that because we had corn was growing pretty high. The grass was high, so it wasn't a little hard to kind of see around in the woods. But we had these huge storms coming up, so we were trying to hurry up, get our tents set, get a fire going, and we were just going to wait out the storm and then we'd have the whole weekend to relax on the farm. So we're coming up and the animals when we got here were stirred up. I had deer on our little farm road. I had a deer jump out of the corn almost land on the hood of my jeep at that point. And I mean, it was just kind of a weird vibe when we got up here, but we figured it was a storm, not a big deal. We get to our campgrounds that we have set up, and my buddy that was with me, he starts setting up tents and getting cool and stuff out, and I get on the four wheeler and I head back to the to the back part of the farm with the idea that I'm gonna, you know, grab

5:11 some firewood and bring it back and we're going to start a fire and we'll have a nice weekend. So I'm going to the back part of the farm. I'm going along these creeks that we have. Now, the creek banks are about eight foot below where I'm riding on. It's about eight foot drop off, and as I come to a bend in the creek, I see this thing squatting in the creek. I don't know if it's the Originally I thought maybe it was drinking water, or maybe it was trying to catch like crawfish or minnows or something like that. But I pulled the four wheeler to a stop and immediately this thing turns its head and makes eye contact with me, probably probably about twenty twenty five foot away from me, and it's in a squatting position that makes eye contact for you know, it could have been two seconds. It felt like an eternity at that point, and all of a sudden, it just turned its head from squatting. It jumped an eight foot creek bank straight up and took off on two feet, so at this point I had been kind of frozen. I couldn't move. I kind of got my senses back and I turned around and went back to the campground.

6:35 Took me a couple of minutes to kind of calm down. I told my buddy, you know, hey, you know, there's something back there. I'm like, I don't know if it's this you know, momo thing that that you know, I've heard about all the time, but there's something back there. So we end up. He grabs I had a little Ruger ten twenty two rifle and a moss for twelve gage shotgun. We each grabbed a gun just in case, and we went down to where I saw it at and we started tracking down the creek and then it's kind of like a gravel creek, but there's some little sand beds here and there, and on the sand beds we were seeing these enormous footprints and we're going down. We get down a little bit farther, the lights going is, you know, starting to fade. We have flashlights, but again these are flashlights from the nineteen nineties, de cell flashlights that aren't the aren't the best, and the shadows are kind of overhanging. We're kind of down in a valley at this point, and I look at my buddy and I say, hey, if something wanted to, you know, get us to come down here and ambush us, this is the perfect situation, Like I'm not feeling comfortable, and he said, I was just thinking the same thing. So we turned around, we went back, left our tent, left our food, left everything basically

8:09 just do you know, a couple of big, basic things, the dog and me and him. We got in the jeep and we made the hour drive back home and just said, you know, hey, screw it, we'll come back tomorrow. So we come up the next day and we were going to try to get some plaster casts of the footprints that we had seen. And by the time we got up here, we had a major storm come through. In these creeks, when you get a big storm, you know, they'll go from ankle deep to over my head and you know, I'm about six foot tall, and that's kind of what had happened. Everything was underwater. We weren't able to grab any footprints. So that's uh was kind of my first, I guess, real introduction to it. And of course early nineties, there were It wasn't much in the way of well, the Internet wasn't around yet, so it's not like, you know, you could get on and look and see and like, oh hey, there's tons of reports and sightings in northeast Missouri. Back then, it's like, well, you know, I'll confide in my family that I know believes in it, and some close friends, but other than that, you know, people are going to think you're nuts. So you know, that was kind of, like I said, my first first experience, and I'd spend a lot of time up here alone. I mean, it's a farm we had.

9:35 They had the crop ground and a lot of stuff leased out to somebody else, but we had like a small orchard, and I would come up a lot and take care of it brush hoog trails. I was up camping a lot, and I'd be up a lot. It was just me and my dog, and I mean it was that way until we moved on to the property. But there were a lot of times I would be out in the middle of nowhere and I would just get this like that feeling when something's watching you, and all the hairs on the back of your neck stand up and the second I would get that my dog, who would be with me, her hackles would go up on her back. She would start looking into the woods growling. And this was the dog at that time that I had.

10:22 It was a Rottweiler labrador met She was a huge dog, was not scared of anyone or anything. And this dog basically backed up and was hiding underneath my legs just to get away from whatever this was. And this wasn't one time. This would happen constantly, and I mean it's like, you know, there's something there, there's something there. Fast forward. Oh, I don't know, maybe about six seven years. Me and I was married at the time. Me and my wife had a two year old daughter, and it was springtime, I think around Mother's Day or Father's Day, and we hadn't been camping that year. Having a younger child, we didn't get the opportunity to camp as much, and we decided to go camping for I believe it was Father's Day. So we come up, we set everything up, and my wife and daughter are at our campgrounds. I'm up on the hill.

11:33 I had gotten a chainsaw stuck in a tree the day before and ended up leaving it to come back with the right tools to get it out. And I get it out. I get on my four wheeler. I'm coming down the hill half throttle, and I hear this scream, and I mean it was just like a blood curdling like like I don't even know how to describe it. It was just just just, you know, scary. I get to the campgrounds. My wife's in the truck. She has my rifle out of the truck. She's trying to figure out how to load it. She doesn't know what's going on, and you know, we kind of calm down a little bit. We really like camping. We decided to stay, and you know, we got a big bonfire. Our campground is about an acre acre and a half field that's got a couple of big trees in it.

12:30 There's a cornfield on one side, there's a barn on one side, there's a creek with about an eight foot drop off on one side, and then there's a big like grass field on the other. Well, about eleven o'clock ten o'clock, she goes into the tent with my daughter and lays down with my daughter to get my daughter to go to sleep, and then she's going to come back out to the campfire and stay with me, and she falls asleep. So I'm sitting out there. I'm just enjoying sitting by the campfire, and all of a sudden, I hear something moving around. Now I have three Coleman lanterns on the perimeter of this campground, and the whole campground is lit up pretty well. This thing never came into where I could see it in the light. It always stayed out, but I would hear it in the corn. I could hear it moving through the corn, and then I would hear something and could just barely barely make out something running through the grass field. And then I'd hear something running through the creek, and then I wouldn't hear anything, and then I'd hear something moving through the corn again, and then the grass field and then the creek. And this thing circled our campsite for about twenty minutes, and after that it moved off and that was it for that timeframe. So you know, since then, we've

14:00 had other instances, Like I said, my son in law, my son, We've had other people up here that have seen them, and they've never harmed us. I actually, you know, I'll give the area that I'm in, but I will never give the exact location because part of me actually wants to kind of protect them because I know, you know, if the location or whatever got out, i'd probably see you know, who knows what coming through here. And they're not hurting anything. They've never been aggressive to us in any way whatsoever. That's that's kind of my story. Like I said, I've got some others I can share that are from other family members, but that's the main ones of mine, other than just little you know, seeing something here and there, Matt, that is that is incredible.

14:52 When you saw the tracks back in the nineties, if you were to estimate how long those tracks were, how big are are we talking? Uh you know, i'd say, and trying to go off memory, I'd say at least maybe fourteen inches long. Big for society will be right back after these messages, gotcha, Wow, I mean they were. But I'm the ones that we've seen and the one the ones that have mostly been seen. I think as a female, from you know, research that I've done, it seems like the females are more kind of I'm not going to say friendly, but more kind of caring, and you'll see them the males. It seems like usually when when people will see them, you know, there might be a female, but there's usually at least a male or another mail you know, kind of off that you're not seeing and I kind of get the impression, you know, that it's it's something like that. The other thing that I've noticed is we'll have a whole lot of sightings up here for six months, three months, maybe a year, and then we don't see or hear

16:22 anything for a year or two, maybe three, and then all of a sudden, well they'll come up again. But in the time that we're not seeing them, you know, I'm tracking and I'm seeing southern Iowa or over into like Jacksonville, Illinois or Pittsfield, Illinois, They'll be sightings in that area when we're not, so I think they kind of move around a little bit. So I'm going to agree with you one hundred percent. I'm actually from central Iowa, so I do a lot of looking into southern Iowa, and I'm going to agree that, yes, there's not an area where it's it can you know, support them, but I think there's some definite moving around the states and neighboring states. So I absolutely agree with you, Matt, Yeah, and that's it's it's just weird. But some of the other sightings, like my son in law and one of the one of the kind of crazy things when we had the experience with my wife, I'd been talking about it and she kept telling me, oh, you're just making it up.

17:26 That didn't really happen. And then the next weekend we're up here and it happened and she got first handed. My son in law, similar situation. He was talking about it at a hunt club near us that he worked at and was He's like, yeah, they're saying, you're just making it up. It's not real. He had come down and was spending Valentine's Day at our house and he goes to take my daughter's dog out and he sees it in our front yard and now we've got a big front yard, but it was along the Gravel County Road. He sees it, the dog notices it, it turns around, and it runs off in the other direction where there's a dusk to dawn light and it runs right under the light where he gets, you know, a perfect view of it, and it's like, you know, right after somebody says, you know, no, they don't exist. It's almost like, you know, that's a trigger form that is that is very interesting. But yeah, it definitely seems like there's a correlation there. You mentioned there's multiple people that have had encounters on the property.

18:33 Has anyone gotten like a really solid like they're looking right at its face, they're able to see pretty solid details. I mean I did on my first one. I was about twenty twenty five feet away and I was making eye contact with it, that's true. Yeah, And my son in law he got a I mean he got a pretty good look. I mean our yard. It's like I said, it's a good sized yard, but you know, it's not that far away that he couldn't couldn't make it out. And we did. Actually after his we went down there in the tree that it was kind of hiding behind for a little while. We found a bunch of long, kind of coarse brown here. It almost reminded me of like a horse's mane. Did you happen to keep those? I've got them here somewhere.

19:26 I mean this was probably like teen twenty sixteen, so it's been a while, and I've got a lot of files, a lot of stuff like that I keep, but my office. I'm not the most organized person. It is in my office somewhere I totally get just so. And we can talk about this soft are as well. But there is a DNA study going on with North Carolina State with a gentleman named Darby or cut and you can send any evidence to him right now to get tested in their laboratory. It doesn't cost you a thing. So if you hair well, you send me that information. I totally will. Yeah, if you have hair, I mean, this is the time you can send anything in and no cost. So it is like a golden opportunity to have your stuff tested. Yes, I would definitely have to. So going back to when you had that eye to eye contact, based on what first could, are there any details that stick out in your mind about like features of the face You may have noticed the I mean, the eyes are there. I mean the eyes were just kind of like hypnotic, Like I mean the minute I made eye contact, I was frozen. I could not move. But the face wash And you know, I've heard this from a lot of other people, but the face was more human looking than anything else. I mean, you know it.

20:49 But the eyes were just in you know, a lot of people talk about, you know, red eyes and all. I don't remember the eyes being red. Just the face just looked more human than anything else. There really wasn't any hair on the face. That was about the only part of it. I didn't see hair, And it just looked like a like a human. The eye itself, did it have like whites around the center of the eye or was it in all one color? No, it was all kind of a dark I want to say black, but I'm not. I mean, honestly, as long as it's been it might have been a look, you know, could have been dark blue or something like that, but it was like a darker, darker And no, there were no whites in the eye at all. Yeah, that that lines up actually with a report I took earlier today from Indiana that's wild. Did you see any Was the mouth open, did you see teeth anything? I thought, I mean literally from squatting. It just turned its head, mouth clothed, just like you know, say you were at a Walmart or somewhere like that, and you know you passed behind look at someone, you know, kind of the same thing just kind of looked and just turned its head, jumped and left. Let's say that you know, let's say the night played out differently and you had gotten to the point where you're you're running after with the shotguns, and you find it, and then you're looking at it again, but this time it's through the scope or whatever you have. Could do you think you could have

22:21 taken that shot? Or would it been extremely hard because of the way it looked. I mean at the time, it's hard to say, because I had a lot of adrenaline going. I mean, I grew up, I grew up hunting, you know, I I don't have a problem, you know, hunting, and I had a lot of adrenaline going. But on you know, the other hand, I grew up with around my grandfather a lot. He was half Cherokee and spent most of his life hunting and fishing. And you know, one thing he would tell me constantly is if you have to kill, there's nothing wrong with it. But the only reason you ever need to kill something is for protection or for food. There's no other reason. So if it was for you know, if the thing was charging me, I don't think I would have hesitated. Other than the fact that you know the size of the saying. I don't know that a twelve gage or a twenty two would have done much to it either. Absolutely. Did you notice a certain shape to the head at all? I mean kind of like best description I could give would be like a kind of like a like a gorilla at the zoo. It kind of had that kind of cone shaped on the top. Gotcha, But that would be the closest description, I think. So you mentioned that you saw it jump up eight feet. Did

23:52 you see it run at all for any different distance? Okay? Can you describe how it was running? Okay, so not for a distance. It was squatting. So from squatting, it jumped straight up. It didn't stand up, It didn't get a running go. It was squatting and it jumped straight up an eight foot embankment. When it landed, it was on two It was on two feet, and it moved forward going on two feet. Now, I did not see it for you know, a big length of time. I saw it like moving. And I mean honestly that I don't know if you've ever seen one or not, but the first time you see one, it's a little traumatizing. I have not had the I've not had that happen yet. I know that it is from what I've heard, because I've done a lot of interviews, is it can be extremely traumatizing. And I know that will happen someday if I keep going down the road I am.

24:44 So we'll see, but not yet. Yeah, I mean I've got a different opinion of it nowadays. I mean now, no, I mean I don't go in the woods without a very large firearm. But you know, I have no plans to hurt or kill or anything like that. You know, this animal. If anything, I'm more to where I would try to protect it from others that might want to. So that's interesting. So you mentioned before that you've never hurt, you've never felt threatened by the creatures at all on your property, but you will not go into the woods without a large firearm. Is there a reason then that there would be that kind of difference. Yeah, well, so I've never felt threatened, but that doesn't necessar you know, logic, that doesn't necessarily mean that day won't come or maybe you know, and it's you know, it's not just not just for these I mean, we have mountain lions up here. We don't have bears yet, but they're starting to get a little close to the area, and just in general. I mean, I've I've hiked in the Sierra Nevada, as I've hiked in Alaska, I've hiked in you know, a lot of different countries, and I will take something for protection because of the unknown out there, and I will take the biggest thing that I can take.

26:14 And you know, these things, I know they're out there, They've never threatened in any way, and I would, you know, I doubt I would ever pull a firearm out of the holster. But you know, I'm not going to go out there and not carry anything and then have that one in a million chance happen that you know, maybe I piss it off, or you know, I get one that you know, somebody else was out hunting that wasn't supposed to be there, took a shot at it, and it was desperate. So yeah, I will, you know, protect myself if I have to. I think that's smart. And definitely you mentioned that there was potentially some hair found. Has there ever been any photos or video evidence taken or do you have game cams up anything like that. We have game cams up. We have never caught anything. And there was one here recently where people are putting food out and it was coming and getting the food.

27:12 So they put cameras out there. And the theory from what I'm reading is the infrared light or whatever the game cameras put out that it's something that maybe their eyes can see the beam from it. But on this one in particular, they moved the cameras to where it could not get the food without coming into the area. And they came back and the food was gone. So they went looking around and they actually have a plaster cast to where it laid down on the ground just out of side of the cameras and was able to reach up with its arm and get the food. But they have a like a half body cast. I think this was an Indiana, but I'd have to look it up at that. That's really interesting. Okay, Yeah, this was just a couple of years ago, like maybe a year or two. It hasn't been that long. And I'll see if I can find it and send it to you when we get done here. You mentioned that you moved on to the property. What's the closest that you have things happen have you ever, or what's the closest to your home residence there on that property that you have had things occur. Well, like I said, my son in law was in the front yard at the edge of the yard on him and at the time, I mean our front yard. I'm looking at it right now. It's maybe, I don't know, one hundred one hundred hundred and fifty yards from where my house sits to the county road, and

28:45 at the right of the county road we've got a line of trees. Now, there was another house on the other side of the road at the time. It was an old house, like a really really old house that was rented out, and it had that was where the dusk to dawn light was, so it was at the edge there, and it actually, you know, ran across the road and ran between their garage which wasn't attached to the house and the dust to dawn light, like right under the dust to dawn light, and ran into a cow field behind it. So that's the closest probably. I have had another one about three years ago. I was out at night. We have livestock, and I was putting like our chickens and stuff up out in the backyard, and I start hearing coyotes. But it's not like a normal kind of coyote. I normally, if you hear coyotes, you'll hear like a small group of them, you know, over here, and then another small group over another area, and they kind of like go back and forth. This was like a pack of maybe a hundred or more that was yelling. That was like yelping, barking, letting out.

30:06 And then I hear this, uh, this roar. This just this primal deep roar. And this was, uh, I don't know, maybe eight hundred yards from the backyard, across a creek in this field, and it was dark at the time, and I could hear the coyotes. I could hear this thing roaring. And I'm out there at the time. You know, I had a little thirty eight snub nosed revolver that I keep in my jacket, and I'm like, well, for one thing, i don't know what's going on here, but I'm getting something a little bigger than this, and I'm going to get my son or someone to come out. And I got my son. He came out on the deck. But at that point the only thing we heard was the sound of like a whimpering dog, like when a dog gets hurt. We could hear or that, so I don't know if like it was one of them fighting with coyotes or something, or what was going on big for society who would be right back after these messages.

31:26 And it was about two days before I was able to really get down there, and you know, I was hoping to go down and find prints in the snow. This was early February, Prince in the snow. Maybe if there was like some blood or something. But it was one of those times to where it doesn't get light till seven eight o'clock and it gets dark at four o'clock. And with my work schedule, it was dark when i'd leave home and dark when I got home, and I wasn't going out there in the dark by myself. So I get out there and I get to where I could hear it at and there's no tracks. There's nothing. So I go up on the hill right above it, and there's a lot of tracks, but there was a tree. There was snow on the ground, but there was this tree that had a perfect circle of just grass where something almost like something had walked around in a circle, like it was nervous or pacing or something, and worn all the snow down. There was a path on the hill there where you're familiar with what a with like a deer path in the woods. Correct, So it was kind of like a deer path, but this was in locusts like thorn trees. But this path was about four to five foot wide and it's still there now. But it was like what you would expect to see a deer path, but it was four to

32:58 five foot wide. And the other weird thing that I found up there is there was grass on the ground, almost kind of like something that built a huge nest. But it wasn't the grass that grows on that hillside. It was a completely different type of grass, like it had been brought in. Were you able to recognize what kind of grass it was? I mean it was it was prairie grass, which what's up there is I believe is a is a brome and a timothy mix that we use for hay. But this was like a prairie grass, which is around in the area, but not on that hillside at all. That is so that wearing the snowdown is so interesting. Wow. That yeah, And I mean on that same hillside about fifteen years ago, I was brushogging one day and I found a black calf leg, just the leg of a calf. We don't have cows, or a neighbor has cows, doesn't have black cows. But I checked with all the neighbors around that I know of that have cows. Nobody was missing a calf. This is starting to sound like a place I know in Tennessee.

34:08 This is wild, dude. Oh man. So was it like it had been a clean cut or was it like it had been torn off? It was like like it was tore off, but I mean the hair was on it. Yeah, it was. It was like just just a leg. This is wild. Is has there? Like? Yeah, like like Thanksgiving when you pull the leg off a turkey exactly. Okay, gotcha, that's what it looked like. Wow. Has there ever been a time when you've been on this property and it just things really have kind of been escalated and you're like, you know what, I'm done with this, Get me out of here now. I just don't want to deal with this anymore. No, okay. So you've always felt in control of the situation. That's great.

34:52 No, I mean this is this is my property. Yeah, Like I said, my uh uh, my father and his brothers and sisters grew up nearby. They would hunt and fish and trap on this property. My grandfather would hunt and fish and trap on this property. My dad bought this property in the mid sixties and so you know, he owned it before I was born. When I was a kid, my dad was a real estate agent. We moved around a lot, like you know a lot of real estate agents. They get a good deal on a house, they'll buy it and live it and for a couple of years and flip it. And we'd move around like not not like a wide area, but around the different suburbs of Saint Louis. But this was always the one place that I had that was constant, that that was home. We had a little camper up here and every weekend pretty much like year round, we would come up and we would spend the weekend up here. So this, yeah, no, this is my place. I ended up building a house seventeen years ago on this property. I you know, I have a son. My daughter, she got married. She actually she and her husband bought a piece of property that's on the back end that joins up to this farm. And you know, they're not planning on leaving. We're not planning on leaving. They have a kid, so you know, hopefully their kid's not planning on leaving and it's

36:28 going to stay in the family forever and nothing's going to run us out. That's awesome. I love that you mentioned. Did you mention, I think the grandfather that had some sightings over the years. Yeah, he did not really talk about him a whole lot, but I mean talking with him, he would mention. You know, we we would talk about, you know, going out, and we'd go out hunting or fishing or whatever, and you know, you'd hear things. You'd hear like what I now know is as a tree knock or a wood knock. You know, we'd hear something like that off in the distance, and he would just say, there's there's a lot of animals out there. If you don't hurt them, they won't hurt you. If you're lucky, maybe they'll show themself to you someday.

37:15 And I mean he would, you know, say stuff like that, and you know, i'd ask him, I'm like, you know, what are you talking about? And he'd say, when the time comes, you may know. And you know it's like, well, you know, what are they have you seen them? And he said, there's a lot of things I've seen out in the woods. Oh wow. You know he would never actually, you know, come out and say. But like I said, he was his mother was Cherokee. He grew up pretty much in the woods. He was kind of what we can would consider a mountain man today. And he he didn't grow up Cherokee, but he grew up with a lot of their kind of ways and a lot of the ton of the respect for nature and all that, and I mean it was he was very interesting.

38:06 I mean, we could go fishing out to a lake. We would get out there and he'd sit there for about a minute. He'd look at the lake and he'd point to one part of the lake or the pond. He'd say, that's where the fish are biting. And sure enough, that's where the fish would be biting. Wow. You know. We'd be out on the farm and you know, he'd say, oh, it's about to rain, and you know, well, what do you mean it's about to rain? Well, can't you smell it? And about a half hour later it start to rain. And he was definitely old school. He'd get his dogs to go hunting. He'd open the trunk of his car, his dogs would jump in the trunk of his car. He'd drive his car out to the farm and go burn hunting. I would never put my dogs in the trunk of my car. But you know, I guess the seventies and the safety different time. I mean, my uncle, uh, you know, he always had like a new Cadillac, And I've seen my uncle literally driving his Cadillac across a cowfield to go park it to go hunting. Oh wow, that's yeah, that's that's the different time. But but guys like your grandfather are hard to find in these current days, at least in my circles.

39:21 Maybe I'm in the wrong circles, but it's just that that intuition, you know, it's it's very very rare. Are there other sounds that you hear in your area that you attribute to these creatures? I mean, like I said, wood Knox, Uh, every once in a while, not not really good. There's there's just times we just hear like weird noises and we'll hear like right now, we're you know, northern Missouri. We have coyotes here, we don't have wolves here. Over the last year, when you go outside at night, we can hear what sounds like a wolf howling. Now I you know, I to the conservation department. My daughter's heard it, my wife's heard it, my son's heard it, and they're like, yeah, that's definitely a wolf or something trying to imitate a wolf. But it's like like a fifty like the nineteen fifties Wolfman movie. It's like the howls they would use in that movie. But it's coming from out on the farm somewhere. And we've heard other like strange noises of like basically animals that shouldn't be here, but you hear them and it's almost like, you know, is something trying to imitate that or is there, you know, something weird going on. You know, we've got caves on the property. You know, it's like, are these caves, you know, some kind of magnet for something or what? Are there certain animal sounds that stick out where you hear them and you're like, this sounds like an eight hundred pound howl or something like that. No, No, I mean, like I said,

40:52 this wolf sound is one. And the first time I heard it, I was way out on the far end of the yard. It was dark out. I was finishing taking care of animals for the night, and I hear a wolf howl and it was pretty good distance away, but it had the sound of like a you know, a nineteen fifties werewolf horror movie that you know, you go back to watching those movies as a kid and it's like, oh, crap, I got to get in the house now, right, Like you know, it's like that flight or fight and the flights like, yeah, I'm going straight to the house before you know, rational thought kicks in and be like, yeah, there's none of those here.

41:36 It's a kind of a related topic. But you know, has there been ever sightings or talk of the dog man cryptids in the same area that you're aware of? Not here that I'm aware of. I think the southern part of the state. Now, we have seen large black cats up here, and we have seen meal deer up here, and neither one of those are animals that are in this area. The mule deer, I had seen them on and off in the woods for about a decade or two, and no one else had seen them till about two three years ago. We were on side by sides. I was on one, my daughter, son in law and grandson was on the other one, and we were way back down the Gravel County Road and we were going through a beanfield or a hay field.

42:28 I forgot what it was. And we look over and we see these deer and they're hopping like Peppy lapew from like the Bugs Bunny cartoon, which is what mule deer do. And you know, my son in law, he's, among other things, he's a professional hunting guide, and he said, those are mule deer, and I said, yeah, And that's not the first time we've seen them. Large black cats. I had seen them on and off a couple of times. I've had a couple of people that I've let hunt up here have said, you know, you got large black cats up here, and I said, well, you know, don't tell the conservation agents at because I'll tell you they don't exist. And we were out fishing last summer on one of our lakes and my daughter, who's you know, pretty calm and collected, and you know, you know, I'm in the Navy. I have a colorful vocabulary, let's say, but my daughter's not that way. And all of a sudden, my daughter yells, what the f is that? And we look up and I did not see them.

43:37 My son in law is like, it's a black cat. So I grabbed my handgun and I grab my GoPro and we start walking where it ran into the woods in the hillside, and we're going to see if we could find some tracks, which we were not able to find tracks, but we're going to where my son in law saw and my daughter's like, no, it wasn't there, it was over here, and she's guiding us to another area. My sun in law is like, now, it was over here. So we come back around and like, okay, where did you see it at? And she said right there. My sudden law said, oh, the one I saw it was over here, like about fifteen foot down the bank. So there were two large black cats. They both saw them clear as day. Oh wow. And you know that's if you've looked into cryptids, you know, yeah, the black cats are like another another thing that they don't exist, but everybody seeing exactly. And now it's like, well, now we've got potentially multiple things going on this property. Do you ever hear anything weird, like, you know, things that really don't belong, like a car door closing or a rusty gate type closing sound, anything really weird like that. Don't hear that? I did. When my daughter was in junior high. I was up here it was around Halloween with a bunch of her friends, and we were, uh, we were down uh

45:07 we were down at the like the campgrounds kind of think where we were where we were at, but uh, all of a sudden, one of the kids like, there's, uh, there's somebody walking up on the hillside. And we look over and see and it was like it wasn't a flashlight, but it was like two lights. I don't know if it was I'm not going to say it was eyes. It was almost like somebody had some kind of like a like glasses that would have had some kind of a light on them or something where they could see where they were going. But I mean, this farm is in the middle of nowhere. I'm not just gonna walk down on this farm and uh, Anya, it was something on the hillside. So I took all the kids, got them kind of a safe place where my wife could watch him, and I got in the jeep and I grabbed my rifle and started going up because I thought we just had like a trespasser and and we got there no sign of anybody big for society, who will be right back after these messages, do you remember the color of them?

46:27 Yeah, it was. It was like a reddish color, like a not red, but a reddish like maybe orange, and you know, no telling what it was. M any when you're walking around the property, is there any section where you walk through an area and you're like, oh, it kind of feels a little electric here, or something just shifted for a minute or anything like that. Not any one area, but there are times to where, you know, we'll be walking and you just kind of get a weird vibe. But it's kind of a weird vibe over the whole like area, you know, like there's like, you know, there's something going on, no telling you know what, but you just kind of you just get that feeling like they're going on right now. And usually when I get those feelings, I you know, I don't necessarily go and I'm like, you know what, it's a weird feeling. I'm gonna leave it be and I'm going to mind my own business. Yeah. Absolutely, I mean I think that's that's a smart way to put it, because it's not like you're a big foot researcher. I mean, it feels like you're just trying to you have this property and you're just trying to live on it, you know, And right, I mean, I I am a researcher to a certain degree, just because I've been obsessed with it since seeing it. But I'm professional. I'm just no. I put out a little Facebook group and just basically, you know, I'm you know, ask just try to go around.

47:55 If I see anybody that has a you know, has had a sighting or something like that, you know, I'll try to interview him for information from him. But that's you know, that's about the extent of it. That's actually another question I was going to ask you. You know, after having these sightings, have you checked with your neighbors? Have you found out, yes, there's other things happening in the same area outside of your property. I have in the past run across. There's there's a few that there's like a lake close to here, it's like the town reservoir. And I've talked to one guy that grew up in that area and he had multiple sightings growing up and they still his brother lives close by and his brother has sightings as well well. Home Boy, And I've talked to some other people, like when my son in law had his that was like about twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, something like that. Two years ago. I was up at our local cass and I was talking to the girl at the counter and she's like, oh, my husband has seen it. And I'm like, can I talk to your husband? So I talked to him and he was talking about being up at the lakes and hearing something and what he described was a mountain lion I think, so I'm like, oh, okay, and then talking to him, he tells me about back in about twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, about the same time that my son in law saw it, which

49:30 was around Valentine's Day. They were coming home around Valentine's Day, right at where the exit where I live at is, and he said, we saw what we thought was a huge like a pine tree or cedar tree in the media of the highway, and I said that it moved, and his buddy's like, no, no, no, So they turn around and there was nothing there in the media. But that was like the same about the same timeframe that my son in law saw it here. So yeah, I have talked to you know, other people Clarksville, Missouri two years ago someone and I've been trying to get a copy of the photos. But someone had a whole bunch of large footprints in the snow up around a little attraction. They had a skylift. It's like a high point on the bluff on the river and it had a bunch of footprints in snow. And so, yeah, I've talked to quite a few people around and you know, gather up stuff.

50:29 Have you ever looked up there's a website called bigfootmap dot com and you can see like certain areas of the country where there's way more activity. I don't know if it's bigfoot Map. I've seen a couple. When I had my first couple ones, I was talking with the BFRO with Matt a little bit and he sent a guy out here and then we just kind of, you know, lost touch with each other. But he had a guy that kind of came out and looked around here. And this was actually right after me and my wife had seen the one when we were camping that. You know, the internet was still fairly new at the time, but we were we had talked to him and he's like, yeah, I get on the website and there's some audio files and the like the screen that we had heard was one that they said was like a territorial But you know, we've they have a map or they don't have a map. They have like a county by county siting list, and I have gone through that. I think they have a map too, but I hadn't been on their site in a while.

51:37 Yeah, No, that is. That is a great resource as well. Bigfoot map is good because it utilizes that database and also he gets stuff himself, and it would be it'd be really interesting to check that out because it might it'll probably make sense. I'm guessing there'll be a connection to the area where you're at when you look at the map. That's usually I definitely will check that out when we get off the phone. Absolutely is how how recent would you say, what was the most recent Bigfoot related interaction that you've had this spring? We had we had something. It was kind of it was kind of one of those things. I didn't know, if you know, if it was one that we were waiting to see if something else would happen, and nothing else would happened, but we had Uh. I was coming home early early spring, well not even spring, like late February, early March, County Road at night and I saw some eyes and they were like pretty high up, like you know, seven foot high up just off of the side of the road. I drove past and I just kind of called them out of the corner of my eye. I stopped, I'd put my jeep in reverse. I backed up, and I couldn't see anything.

52:52 Now that could have been an owl and a tree. Maybe I don't. I don't know, but I'm like, well, there's something to watch. Let's see if you know, we start getting some activity and you know, haven't really seen anything else. I mean last summer we had a couple of you know, just a couple of minor things, like nothing major. And I think that's a lot of them too. As they kind of get in the woods and you know, they don't really make their presence known absolutely. They just kind of slowly build up to the just the kind of history of the property. Are you keeping a journal of everything that's been going on or is it just up in your on your head on and off. I've you know, I would log in, I would log everything, and other people I've talked to and I mean this has been going on since like the early nineties that I've been trying to document it, and you know, in that time, it's like it's gone from like I've got floppy disks that have all kinds of wow people I've interviewed. I've got like the little the little hard discs. I don't remember what you call those. What were they three and a half inch or something like that. Yeah, I've got several of those.

54:02 I got two of those that are filled with just sightings from this area I worked in when I was younger, I worked in radio, and I kind of use that as a way to get in and talk to people because I'd help out their news department occasionally in the area. So you know, I kind of be like, yeah, yeah, tell me, And that got my foot in the door to quite a few. Oh wow, that's really cool that you have those old documentation resources that you made. Do you mind talking We talked a little bit off the air about you might have some future projects, and I'm sure people are curious, like, Hey, I want to maybe reach out to this guy who's in northeast Missouri, because man, I've heard of stuff going on there too. Yeah, and I would have actually appreciate you let me do this. I do like I do a YouTube channel it's more like farm and homesteading and gardening kind of stuff. And I've been I've been thinking about and kind of slowly getting started. I was going to try to do a YouTube channel and do a podcast with it of uh of cryptid related just sightings and stuff basically in the Midwest area, like Missouri, Illinois, Ohio. I mean the Momo stuff here. You know, I've looked into a lot on them. You know, there's a lot of stuff down in like Cape Girardo, Missouri, down south that I see occasionally down in Arkansas, the big Muddy Monster out in Murphysboro, Illinois.

55:39 You know, I go down there for work occasionally, and there's all these you know, different things. There's actually some active dog man sidings down around the Springfield Branson area right now. And uh and I'm wanting to start like just bas like what you do, like a YouTube channel and podcast of just cryptid stuff. And I would you know, if you don't mind, It may be six months before I really get it going. But if anybody's out there and has a story they'd like to share, I would really like to hear it, and I can give out the uh my email address, it's for my other YouTube channel that I mean, it's it goes to me.

56:25 I all I've done so far is I've set up a YouTube channel with nothing on it that's called Midwestern Monsters. Excuse me, but but my email address it's McGee Farms seventy two at gmail dot com and McGee is M A. G Ee. And you know, if if someone's out there, you know, if they're in the Midwestern area and they've seen, you know, the big hairyman or a dog man, or you know, some other kind of animal that shouldn't be there that you know doesn't exist, or if you've got you know, one in your in your town, like a legend of one, please reach out to me. I would love to hear your story.

57:10 I would I would love to hear about what's there because I'm trying to put these together and like I said, my hope is just to kind of share it. When I had my first encounter, you know, there wasn't a lot of resources. I had very supportive family members that had also seen and experienced things, but when you first see it, yeah, people don't believe you, people make fun of you, and so just getting the resources out there so you know, somebody sees something and they're like, well, yeah, I'm not the only one that's that's seen it, you know, I'd like to have that for other people. Plus I love hearing about them.

57:50 You know, everybody. Everybody loves a mystery, everybody loves a scary story, and I'm no different. So if you've got one, please rench out and and share with me. Yeah. Absolutely, We'll have those links in the show notes for this the description on YouTube, So guys, make sure that you hit that up, and you can make sure you subscribe to his channel all that good stuff, because there'll probably be some really cool stuff coming out on it. But Matt, thank you so much for hanging out this July fourth. I appreciate you hopping on and sharing the wild stuff that is going on down to your property in northeast Missouri. Oh no problem. If you ever get down this way, you know, hit me up. I'll give you a tour of where we've seen some of the stuff. Oh yeah, totally. Well, thanks thanks for chatting Matt. Hold On. One minute after this, please you got it. Please take a minute to help out the show by subscribing on YouTube, making sure you hit the bell so you don't miss any notifications and share the episode on YouTube with a friend.

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1:01:15 Maybe there's somebody else out there listening it's too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give them the courage to come out. And I feel so bad about it. Who cares what anybody's thinks. I know what I saw, I know what's out there. That's all I care. Please let people know, Please let them know. If you ever see one of these things, you need to tell because if you don't, then shame on you, you know, shame on you,