Bigfoot on My Family Farm: Generations of Encounters!

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All right, Bigfoot Society. I've
got the privilege of talking to Matt

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today. Matt is an individual having
some Bigfoot activity on his family farm area

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in northeast Missouri. It's a privilege
to talk to you today, Matt.

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How's it going. It's going great. Thank you very much. It's nice

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to speak to you. Thank you. And you know, the more that

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we talked about this before the episode, the more excited I'm getting for because

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I mean, you're telling me things
like this has been going on for an

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extended period of time, So I'm
going to give the reins over to you

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and please share what you've been experiencing
over the years. Matt oh Yeah,

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So a little background in the area. I'm in northeast Missouri and Pike County,

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Missouri, which some people may know
it for the Momo sightings, the

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Missouri Monster from the early seventies,
and I mean the sightings go back farther

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than that. They're still going on
today. And the farm, we have

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a couple of hundred acres just kind
of out in the middle of nowhere that

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has been in the family. Well, I mean there's sue, there's been

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about seven eight generations of my family
on this farm. My dad was the

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first one to actually purchase it,
but where he lived. My grandfather was

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kind of like what you would call
a mountain man nowadays, and he hunted

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and trapped in this area. My
dad was in this area growing up,

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and my grandfather, my dad,
and my mom had had sightings and encounters.

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My older brother he had had a
couple sidings, and my son,

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my son in law, my wife, my daughter, We've all had encounters

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over I mean over generations. But
I'll tell you a little bit about my

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first one, and that happened back
in the early nineteen nineties. I was

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in college, nineteen years old.
I lived in a suburb of Saint Louis,

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which was about an hour away,
and you know, me and my

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friends, we would come up here
camping every chance that we got. You

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know, this was kind of our
little escape. We loved it. And

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I had come up here with I'm
they're probably about eight or nine of us

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one night and we were camping.
We've been writing for wheelers around and at

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this point, and when this happened, I didn't think anything of it because,

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you know, as college kids,
I'd had a few beers. We

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were driving around on ATVs and I
see what I thought was was my dog

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way up on the hill in this
back area, and then all of a

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sudden, my dog runs past me
on the four wheeler and I look and

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this thing was, I don't know, seven eight foot high on the level

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ground that I was on. I
just turned around and went back. Thought

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it was nothing, you know,
And the only reason, you know,

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if there's alcohol involved, I usually
don't even talk about sightings, But the

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only reason I'm bringing this up is
because six months later is when I had

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my first what I consider my first
real sighting, and me and the body

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of mine were coming up. It
was March. I think it was early

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maybe April. The uh well,
no, I take that back. It

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would have been a little later than
that because we had corn was growing pretty

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high. The grass was high,
so it wasn't a little hard to kind

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of see around in the woods.
But we had these huge storms coming up,

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so we were trying to hurry up, get our tents set, get

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a fire going, and we were
just going to wait out the storm and

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then we'd have the whole weekend to
relax on the farm. So we're coming

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up and the animals when we got
here were stirred up. I had deer

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on our little farm road. I
had a deer jump out of the corn

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almost land on the hood of my
jeep at that point. And I mean,

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it was just kind of a weird
vibe when we got up here,

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but we figured it was a storm, not a big deal. We get

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to our campgrounds that we have set
up, and my buddy that was with

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me, he starts setting up tents
and getting cool and stuff out, and

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I get on the four wheeler and
I head back to the to the back

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part of the farm with the idea
that I'm gonna, you know, grab

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some firewood and bring it back and
we're going to start a fire and we'll

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have a nice weekend. So I'm
going to the back part of the farm.

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I'm going along these creeks that we
have. Now, the creek banks

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are about eight foot below where I'm
riding on. It's about eight foot drop

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off, and as I come to
a bend in the creek, I see

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this thing squatting in the creek.
I don't know if it's the Originally I

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thought maybe it was drinking water,
or maybe it was trying to catch like

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crawfish or minnows or something like that. But I pulled the four wheeler to

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a stop and immediately this thing turns
its head and makes eye contact with me,

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probably probably about twenty twenty five foot
away from me, and it's in

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a squatting position that makes eye contact
for you know, it could have been

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two seconds. It felt like an
eternity at that point, and all of

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a sudden, it just turned its
head from squatting. It jumped an eight

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foot creek bank straight up and took
off on two feet, so at this

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point I had been kind of frozen. I couldn't move. I kind of

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got my senses back and I turned
around and went back to the campground.

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Took me a couple of minutes to
kind of calm down. I told my

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buddy, you know, hey,
you know, there's something back there.

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I'm like, I don't know if
it's this you know, momo thing that

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that you know, I've heard about
all the time, but there's something back

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there. So we end up.
He grabs I had a little Ruger ten

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twenty two rifle and a moss for
twelve gage shotgun. We each grabbed a

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gun just in case, and we
went down to where I saw it at

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and we started tracking down the creek
and then it's kind of like a gravel

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creek, but there's some little sand
beds here and there, and on the

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sand beds we were seeing these enormous
footprints and we're going down. We get

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down a little bit farther, the
lights going is, you know, starting

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to fade. We have flashlights,
but again these are flashlights from the nineteen

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nineties, de cell flashlights that aren't
the aren't the best, and the shadows

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are kind of overhanging. We're kind
of down in a valley at this point,

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and I look at my buddy and
I say, hey, if something

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wanted to, you know, get
us to come down here and ambush us,

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this is the perfect situation, Like
I'm not feeling comfortable, and he

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said, I was just thinking the
same thing. So we turned around,

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we went back, left our tent, left our food, left everything basically

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just do you know, a couple
of big, basic things, the dog

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and me and him. We got
in the jeep and we made the hour

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drive back home and just said,
you know, hey, screw it,

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we'll come back tomorrow. So we
come up the next day and we were

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going to try to get some plaster
casts of the footprints that we had seen.

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And by the time we got up
here, we had a major storm

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come through. In these creeks,
when you get a big storm, you

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know, they'll go from ankle deep
to over my head and you know,

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I'm about six foot tall, and
that's kind of what had happened. Everything

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was underwater. We weren't able to
grab any footprints. So that's uh was

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kind of my first, I guess, real introduction to it. And of

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course early nineties, there were It
wasn't much in the way of well,

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the Internet wasn't around yet, so
it's not like, you know, you

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could get on and look and see
and like, oh hey, there's tons

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of reports and sightings in northeast Missouri. Back then, it's like, well,

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you know, I'll confide in my
family that I know believes in it,

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and some close friends, but other
than that, you know, people

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are going to think you're nuts.
So you know, that was kind of,

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like I said, my first first
experience, and I'd spend a lot

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of time up here alone. I
mean, it's a farm we had.

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They had the crop ground and a
lot of stuff leased out to somebody else,

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but we had like a small orchard, and I would come up a

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lot and take care of it brush
hoog trails. I was up camping a

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lot, and I'd be up a
lot. It was just me and my

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dog, and I mean it was
that way until we moved on to the

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property. But there were a lot
of times I would be out in the

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middle of nowhere and I would just
get this like that feeling when something's watching

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you, and all the hairs on
the back of your neck stand up and

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the second I would get that my
dog, who would be with me,

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her hackles would go up on her
back. She would start looking into the

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woods growling. And this was the
dog at that time that I had.

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It was a Rottweiler labrador met She
was a huge dog, was not scared

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of anyone or anything. And this
dog basically backed up and was hiding underneath

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my legs just to get away from
whatever this was. And this wasn't one

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time. This would happen constantly,
and I mean it's like, you know,

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there's something there, there's something there. Fast forward. Oh, I

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don't know, maybe about six seven
years. Me and I was married at

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the time. Me and my wife
had a two year old daughter, and

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it was springtime, I think around
Mother's Day or Father's Day, and we

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hadn't been camping that year. Having
a younger child, we didn't get the

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opportunity to camp as much, and
we decided to go camping for I believe

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it was Father's Day. So we
come up, we set everything up,

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and my wife and daughter are at
our campgrounds. I'm up on the hill.

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I had gotten a chainsaw stuck in
a tree the day before and ended

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up leaving it to come back with
the right tools to get it out.

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And I get it out. I
get on my four wheeler. I'm coming

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down the hill half throttle, and
I hear this scream, and I mean

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it was just like a blood curdling
like like I don't even know how to

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describe it. It was just just
just, you know, scary. I

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get to the campgrounds. My wife's
in the truck. She has my rifle

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out of the truck. She's trying
to figure out how to load it.

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She doesn't know what's going on,
and you know, we kind of calm

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down a little bit. We really
like camping. We decided to stay,

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and you know, we got a
big bonfire. Our campground is about an

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acre acre and a half field that's
got a couple of big trees in it.

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There's a cornfield on one side,
there's a barn on one side,

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there's a creek with about an eight
foot drop off on one side, and

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then there's a big like grass field
on the other. Well, about eleven

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o'clock ten o'clock, she goes into
the tent with my daughter and lays down

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with my daughter to get my daughter
to go to sleep, and then she's

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going to come back out to the
campfire and stay with me, and she

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falls asleep. So I'm sitting out
there. I'm just enjoying sitting by the

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campfire, and all of a sudden, I hear something moving around. Now

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I have three Coleman lanterns on the
perimeter of this campground, and the whole

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campground is lit up pretty well.
This thing never came into where I could

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see it in the light. It
always stayed out, but I would hear

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it in the corn. I could
hear it moving through the corn, and

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then I would hear something and could
just barely barely make out something running through

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the grass field. And then I'd
hear something running through the creek, and

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then I wouldn't hear anything, and
then I'd hear something moving through the corn

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again, and then the grass field
and then the creek. And this thing

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circled our campsite for about twenty minutes, and after that it moved off and

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that was it for that timeframe.
So you know, since then, we've

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had other instances, Like I said, my son in law, my son,

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We've had other people up here that
have seen them, and they've never

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harmed us. I actually, you
know, I'll give the area that I'm

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in, but I will never give
the exact location because part of me actually

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wants to kind of protect them because
I know, you know, if the

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location or whatever got out, i'd
probably see you know, who knows what

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coming through here. And they're not
hurting anything. They've never been aggressive to

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us in any way whatsoever. That's
that's kind of my story. Like I

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said, I've got some others I
can share that are from other family members,

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but that's the main ones of mine, other than just little you know,

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seeing something here and there, Matt, that is that is incredible.

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When you saw the tracks back in
the nineties, if you were to estimate

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how long those tracks were, how
big are are we talking? Uh you

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know, i'd say, and trying
to go off memory, I'd say at

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least maybe fourteen inches long. Big
for society will be right back after these

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messages, gotcha, Wow, I
mean they were. But I'm the ones

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that we've seen and the one the
ones that have mostly been seen. I

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think as a female, from you
know, research that I've done, it

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seems like the females are more kind
of I'm not going to say friendly,

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but more kind of caring, and
you'll see them the males. It seems

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like usually when when people will see
them, you know, there might be

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a female, but there's usually at
least a male or another mail you know,

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kind of off that you're not seeing
and I kind of get the impression,

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you know, that it's it's something
like that. The other thing that

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I've noticed is we'll have a whole
lot of sightings up here for six months,

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three months, maybe a year,
and then we don't see or hear

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anything for a year or two,
maybe three, and then all of a

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sudden, well they'll come up again. But in the time that we're not

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seeing them, you know, I'm
tracking and I'm seeing southern Iowa or over

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into like Jacksonville, Illinois or Pittsfield, Illinois, They'll be sightings in that

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area when we're not, so I
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bit. So I'm going to agree
with you one hundred percent. I'm actually

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from central Iowa, so I do
a lot of looking into southern Iowa,

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and I'm going to agree that,
yes, there's not an area where it's

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it can you know, support them, but I think there's some definite moving

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around the states and neighboring states.
So I absolutely agree with you, Matt,

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Yeah, and that's it's it's just
weird. But some of the other

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sightings, like my son in law
and one of the one of the kind

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of crazy things when we had the
experience with my wife, I'd been talking

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about it and she kept telling me, oh, you're just making it up.

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That didn't really happen. And then
the next weekend we're up here and

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it happened and she got first handed. My son in law, similar situation.

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He was talking about it at a
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at and was He's like, yeah, they're saying, you're just making it

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up. It's not real. He
had come down and was spending Valentine's Day

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at our house and he goes to
take my daughter's dog out and he sees

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it in our front yard and now
we've got a big front yard, but

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it was along the Gravel County Road. He sees it, the dog notices

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it, it turns around, and
it runs off in the other direction where

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there's a dusk to dawn light and
it runs right under the light where he

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gets, you know, a perfect
view of it, and it's like,

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you know, right after somebody says, you know, no, they don't

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exist. It's almost like, you
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that is very interesting. But yeah, it definitely seems like there's a correlation

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there. You mentioned there's multiple people
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Has anyone gotten like a really solid
like they're looking right at its face,

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they're able to see pretty solid details. I mean I did on my first

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one. I was about twenty twenty
five feet away and I was making eye

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contact with it, that's true.
Yeah, And my son in law he

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got a I mean he got a
pretty good look. I mean our yard.

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It's like I said, it's a
good sized yard, but you know,

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it's not that far away that he
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we did. Actually after his we
went down there in the tree that it

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was kind of hiding behind for a
little while. We found a bunch of

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long, kind of coarse brown here. It almost reminded me of like a

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horse's mane. Did you happen to
keep those? I've got them here somewhere.

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I mean this was probably like teen
twenty sixteen, so it's been a

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while, and I've got a lot
of files, a lot of stuff like

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that I keep, but my office. I'm not the most organized person.

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It is in my office somewhere I
totally get just so. And we can

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talk about this soft are as well. But there is a DNA study going

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on with North Carolina State with a
gentleman named Darby or cut and you can

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send any evidence to him right now
to get tested in their laboratory. It

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doesn't cost you a thing. So
if you hair well, you send me

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that information. I totally will.
Yeah, if you have hair, I

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mean, this is the time you
can send anything in and no cost.

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So it is like a golden opportunity
to have your stuff tested. Yes,

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I would definitely have to. So
going back to when you had that eye

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to eye contact, based on what
first could, are there any details that

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stick out in your mind about like
features of the face You may have noticed

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the I mean, the eyes are
there. I mean the eyes were just

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kind of like hypnotic, Like I
mean the minute I made eye contact,

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I was frozen. I could not
move. But the face wash And you

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know, I've heard this from a
lot of other people, but the face

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was more human looking than anything else. I mean, you know it.

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But the eyes were just in you
know, a lot of people talk about,

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you know, red eyes and all. I don't remember the eyes being

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red. Just the face just looked
more human than anything else. There really

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wasn't any hair on the face.
That was about the only part of it.

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I didn't see hair, And it
just looked like a like a human.

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The eye itself, did it have
like whites around the center of the

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eye or was it in all one
color? No, it was all kind

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of a dark I want to say
black, but I'm not. I mean,

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honestly, as long as it's been
it might have been a look,

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you know, could have been dark
blue or something like that, but it

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was like a darker, darker And
no, there were no whites in the

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eye at all. Yeah, that
that lines up actually with a report I

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took earlier today from Indiana that's wild. Did you see any Was the mouth

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open, did you see teeth anything? I thought, I mean literally from

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squatting. It just turned its head, mouth clothed, just like you know,

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say you were at a Walmart or
somewhere like that, and you know

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you passed behind look at someone,
you know, kind of the same thing

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just kind of looked and just turned
its head, jumped and left. Let's

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say that you know, let's say
the night played out differently and you had

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gotten to the point where you're you're
running after with the shotguns, and you

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find it, and then you're looking
at it again, but this time it's

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through the scope or whatever you have. Could do you think you could have

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taken that shot? Or would it
been extremely hard because of the way it

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looked. I mean at the time, it's hard to say, because I

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had a lot of adrenaline going.
I mean, I grew up, I

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grew up hunting, you know,
I I don't have a problem, you

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know, hunting, and I had
a lot of adrenaline going. But on

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you know, the other hand,
I grew up with around my grandfather a

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lot. He was half Cherokee and
spent most of his life hunting and fishing.

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And you know, one thing he
would tell me constantly is if you

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have to kill, there's nothing wrong
with it. But the only reason you

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ever need to kill something is for
protection or for food. There's no other

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reason. So if it was for
you know, if the thing was charging

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me, I don't think I would
have hesitated. Other than the fact that

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you know the size of the saying. I don't know that a twelve gage

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or a twenty two would have done
much to it either. Absolutely. Did

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you notice a certain shape to the
head at all? I mean kind of

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like best description I could give would
be like a kind of like a like

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a gorilla at the zoo. It
kind of had that kind of cone shaped

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on the top. Gotcha, But
that would be the closest description, I

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think. So you mentioned that you
saw it jump up eight feet. Did

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you see it run at all for
any different distance? Okay? Can you

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describe how it was running? Okay, so not for a distance. It

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was squatting. So from squatting,
it jumped straight up. It didn't stand

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up, It didn't get a running
go. It was squatting and it jumped

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straight up an eight foot embankment.
When it landed, it was on two

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It was on two feet, and
it moved forward going on two feet.

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Now, I did not see it
for you know, a big length of

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time. I saw it like moving. And I mean honestly that I don't

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know if you've ever seen one or
not, but the first time you see

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one, it's a little traumatizing.
I have not had the I've not had

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that happen yet. I know that
it is from what I've heard, because

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I've done a lot of interviews,
is it can be extremely traumatizing. And

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I know that will happen someday if
I keep going down the road I am.

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So we'll see, but not yet. Yeah, I mean I've got

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a different opinion of it nowadays.
I mean now, no, I mean

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I don't go in the woods without
a very large firearm. But you know,

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I have no plans to hurt or
kill or anything like that. You

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know, this animal. If anything, I'm more to where I would try

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to protect it from others that might
want to. So that's interesting. So

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you mentioned before that you've never hurt, you've never felt threatened by the creatures

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at all on your property, but
you will not go into the woods without

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a large firearm. Is there a
reason then that there would be that kind

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of difference. Yeah, well,
so I've never felt threatened, but that

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doesn't necessar you know, logic,
that doesn't necessarily mean that day won't come

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or maybe you know, and it's
you know, it's not just not just

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for these I mean, we have
mountain lions up here. We don't have

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bears yet, but they're starting to
get a little close to the area,

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and just in general. I mean, I've I've hiked in the Sierra Nevada,

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as I've hiked in Alaska, I've
hiked in you know, a lot

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of different countries, and I will
take something for protection because of the unknown

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out there, and I will take
the biggest thing that I can take.

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And you know, these things,
I know they're out there, They've never

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threatened in any way, and I
would, you know, I doubt I

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would ever pull a firearm out of
the holster. But you know, I'm

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not going to go out there and
not carry anything and then have that one

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in a million chance happen that you
know, maybe I piss it off,

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or you know, I get one
that you know, somebody else was out

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hunting that wasn't supposed to be there, took a shot at it, and

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it was desperate. So yeah,
I will, you know, protect myself

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if I have to. I think
that's smart. And definitely you mentioned that

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there was potentially some hair found.
Has there ever been any photos or video

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evidence taken or do you have game
cams up anything like that. We have

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game cams up. We have never
caught anything. And there was one here

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recently where people are putting food out
and it was coming and getting the food.

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So they put cameras out there.
And the theory from what I'm reading

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is the infrared light or whatever the
game cameras put out that it's something that

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maybe their eyes can see the beam
from it. But on this one in

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particular, they moved the cameras to
where it could not get the food without

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coming into the area. And they
came back and the food was gone.

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So they went looking around and they
actually have a plaster cast to where it

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laid down on the ground just out
of side of the cameras and was able

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to reach up with its arm and
get the food. But they have a

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like a half body cast. I
think this was an Indiana, but I'd

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have to look it up at that. That's really interesting. Okay, Yeah,

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this was just a couple of years
ago, like maybe a year or

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two. It hasn't been that long. And I'll see if I can find

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it and send it to you when
we get done here. You mentioned that

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you moved on to the property.
What's the closest that you have things happen

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have you ever, or what's the
closest to your home residence there on that

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property that you have had things occur. Well, like I said, my

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son in law was in the front
yard at the edge of the yard on

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him and at the time, I
mean our front yard. I'm looking at

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it right now. It's maybe,
I don't know, one hundred one hundred

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hundred and fifty yards from where my
house sits to the county road, and

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at the right of the county road
we've got a line of trees. Now,

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there was another house on the other
side of the road at the time.

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It was an old house, like
a really really old house that was

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rented out, and it had that
was where the dusk to dawn light was,

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so it was at the edge there, and it actually, you know,

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ran across the road and ran between
their garage which wasn't attached to the

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house and the dust to dawn light, like right under the dust to dawn

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light, and ran into a cow
field behind it. So that's the closest

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probably. I have had another one
about three years ago. I was out

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at night. We have livestock,
and I was putting like our chickens and

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stuff up out in the backyard,
and I start hearing coyotes. But it's

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not like a normal kind of coyote. I normally, if you hear coyotes,

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you'll hear like a small group of
them, you know, over here,

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and then another small group over another
area, and they kind of like

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go back and forth. This was
like a pack of maybe a hundred or

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more that was yelling. That was
like yelping, barking, letting out.

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And then I hear this, uh, this roar. This just this primal

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deep roar. And this was,
uh, I don't know, maybe eight

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hundred yards from the backyard, across
a creek in this field, and it

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was dark at the time, and
I could hear the coyotes. I could

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hear this thing roaring. And I'm
out there at the time. You know,

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I had a little thirty eight snub
nosed revolver that I keep in my

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jacket, and I'm like, well, for one thing, i don't know

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what's going on here, but I'm
getting something a little bigger than this,

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and I'm going to get my son
or someone to come out. And I

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got my son. He came out
on the deck. But at that point

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the only thing we heard was the
sound of like a whimpering dog, like

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when a dog gets hurt. We
could hear or that, so I don't

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know if like it was one of
them fighting with coyotes or something, or

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what was going on big for society
who would be right back after these messages.

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And it was about two days before
I was able to really get down

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there, and you know, I
was hoping to go down and find prints

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in the snow. This was early
February, Prince in the snow. Maybe

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if there was like some blood or
something. But it was one of those

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times to where it doesn't get light
till seven eight o'clock and it gets dark

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at four o'clock. And with my
work schedule, it was dark when i'd

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leave home and dark when I got
home, and I wasn't going out there

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in the dark by myself. So
I get out there and I get to

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where I could hear it at and
there's no tracks. There's nothing. So

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I go up on the hill right
above it, and there's a lot of

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tracks, but there was a tree. There was snow on the ground,

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but there was this tree that had
a perfect circle of just grass where something

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almost like something had walked around in
a circle, like it was nervous or

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pacing or something, and worn all
the snow down. There was a path

410
00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:38.960
on the hill there where you're familiar
with what a with like a deer path

411
00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:43.680
in the woods. Correct, So
it was kind of like a deer path,

412
00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:50.640
but this was in locusts like thorn
trees. But this path was about

413
00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:52.880
four to five foot wide and it's
still there now. But it was like

414
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:58.400
what you would expect to see a
deer path, but it was four to

415
00:32:58.480 --> 00:33:02.519
five foot wide. And the other
weird thing that I found up there is

416
00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:09.359
there was grass on the ground,
almost kind of like something that built a

417
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:15.400
huge nest. But it wasn't the
grass that grows on that hillside. It

418
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:19.400
was a completely different type of grass, like it had been brought in.

419
00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:22.319
Were you able to recognize what kind
of grass it was? I mean it

420
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:27.799
was it was prairie grass, which
what's up there is I believe is a

421
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:31.599
is a brome and a timothy mix
that we use for hay. But this

422
00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:36.839
was like a prairie grass, which
is around in the area, but not

423
00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:40.839
on that hillside at all. That
is so that wearing the snowdown is so

424
00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:47.160
interesting. Wow. That yeah,
And I mean on that same hillside about

425
00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:52.640
fifteen years ago, I was brushogging
one day and I found a black calf

426
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:58.960
leg, just the leg of a
calf. We don't have cows, or

427
00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:00.839
a neighbor has cows, doesn't have
black cows. But I checked with all

428
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:05.839
the neighbors around that I know of
that have cows. Nobody was missing a

429
00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:08.559
calf. This is starting to sound
like a place I know in Tennessee.

430
00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:14.320
This is wild, dude. Oh
man. So was it like it had

431
00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:17.559
been a clean cut or was it
like it had been torn off? It

432
00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:21.199
was like like it was tore off, but I mean the hair was on

433
00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:24.039
it. Yeah, it was.
It was like just just a leg.

434
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:29.519
This is wild. Is has there? Like? Yeah, like like Thanksgiving

435
00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:31.079
when you pull the leg off a
turkey exactly. Okay, gotcha, that's

436
00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:36.000
what it looked like. Wow.
Has there ever been a time when you've

437
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:42.280
been on this property and it just
things really have kind of been escalated and

438
00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:44.719
you're like, you know what,
I'm done with this, Get me out

439
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:47.400
of here now. I just don't
want to deal with this anymore. No,

440
00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:52.480
okay. So you've always felt in
control of the situation. That's great.

441
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:57.159
No, I mean this is this
is my property. Yeah, Like

442
00:34:57.239 --> 00:35:02.000
I said, my uh uh,
my father and his brothers and sisters grew

443
00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:07.599
up nearby. They would hunt and
fish and trap on this property. My

444
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:12.159
grandfather would hunt and fish and trap
on this property. My dad bought this

445
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:17.719
property in the mid sixties and so
you know, he owned it before I

446
00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:22.079
was born. When I was a
kid, my dad was a real estate

447
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:24.639
agent. We moved around a lot, like you know a lot of real

448
00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:29.760
estate agents. They get a good
deal on a house, they'll buy it

449
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:32.000
and live it and for a couple
of years and flip it. And we'd

450
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:37.519
move around like not not like a
wide area, but around the different suburbs

451
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:42.519
of Saint Louis. But this was
always the one place that I had that

452
00:35:42.679 --> 00:35:45.280
was constant, that that was home. We had a little camper up here

453
00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:51.119
and every weekend pretty much like year
round, we would come up and we

454
00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:54.119
would spend the weekend up here.
So this, yeah, no, this

455
00:35:54.239 --> 00:36:00.280
is my place. I ended up
building a house seventeen years ago on this

456
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:07.800
property. I you know, I
have a son. My daughter, she

457
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:14.239
got married. She actually she and
her husband bought a piece of property that's

458
00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:17.400
on the back end that joins up
to this farm. And you know,

459
00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:22.599
they're not planning on leaving. We're
not planning on leaving. They have a

460
00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:27.679
kid, so you know, hopefully
their kid's not planning on leaving and it's

461
00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:30.199
going to stay in the family forever
and nothing's going to run us out.

462
00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:35.440
That's awesome. I love that you
mentioned. Did you mention, I think

463
00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:40.119
the grandfather that had some sightings over
the years. Yeah, he did not

464
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:44.920
really talk about him a whole lot, but I mean talking with him,

465
00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:50.039
he would mention. You know,
we we would talk about, you know,

466
00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:53.760
going out, and we'd go out
hunting or fishing or whatever, and

467
00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:59.559
you know, you'd hear things.
You'd hear like what I now know is

468
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:02.440
as a tree knock or a wood
knock. You know, we'd hear something

469
00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:07.559
like that off in the distance,
and he would just say, there's there's

470
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:10.880
a lot of animals out there.
If you don't hurt them, they won't

471
00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:15.280
hurt you. If you're lucky,
maybe they'll show themself to you someday.

472
00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:20.159
And I mean he would, you
know, say stuff like that, and

473
00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:21.760
you know, i'd ask him,
I'm like, you know, what are

474
00:37:21.800 --> 00:37:25.679
you talking about? And he'd say, when the time comes, you may

475
00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:30.199
know. And you know it's like, well, you know, what are

476
00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:32.280
they have you seen them? And
he said, there's a lot of things

477
00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:36.159
I've seen out in the woods.
Oh wow. You know he would never

478
00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:39.519
actually, you know, come out
and say. But like I said,

479
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:45.159
he was his mother was Cherokee.
He grew up pretty much in the woods.

480
00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:50.559
He was kind of what we can
would consider a mountain man today.

481
00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:57.119
And he he didn't grow up Cherokee, but he grew up with a lot

482
00:37:57.119 --> 00:38:00.519
of their kind of ways and a
lot of the ton of the respect for

483
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:06.599
nature and all that, and I
mean it was he was very interesting.

484
00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:09.840
I mean, we could go fishing
out to a lake. We would get

485
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:14.159
out there and he'd sit there for
about a minute. He'd look at the

486
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:16.519
lake and he'd point to one part
of the lake or the pond. He'd

487
00:38:16.559 --> 00:38:21.880
say, that's where the fish are
biting. And sure enough, that's where

488
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:23.559
the fish would be biting. Wow. You know. We'd be out on

489
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:29.599
the farm and you know, he'd
say, oh, it's about to rain,

490
00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:32.599
and you know, well, what
do you mean it's about to rain?

491
00:38:32.639 --> 00:38:36.920
Well, can't you smell it?
And about a half hour later it

492
00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:42.280
start to rain. And he was
definitely old school. He'd get his dogs

493
00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:45.880
to go hunting. He'd open the
trunk of his car, his dogs would

494
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:47.920
jump in the trunk of his car. He'd drive his car out to the

495
00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:52.519
farm and go burn hunting. I
would never put my dogs in the trunk

496
00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:54.760
of my car. But you know, I guess the seventies and the safety

497
00:38:54.840 --> 00:39:00.920
different time. I mean, my
uncle, uh, you know, he

498
00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:06.519
always had like a new Cadillac,
And I've seen my uncle literally driving his

499
00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:09.880
Cadillac across a cowfield to go park
it to go hunting. Oh wow,

500
00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:15.719
that's yeah, that's that's the different
time. But but guys like your grandfather

501
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:21.159
are hard to find in these current
days, at least in my circles.

502
00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:23.280
Maybe I'm in the wrong circles,
but it's just that that intuition, you

503
00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:29.880
know, it's it's very very rare. Are there other sounds that you hear

504
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:34.320
in your area that you attribute to
these creatures? I mean, like I

505
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:37.599
said, wood Knox, Uh,
every once in a while, not not

506
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:44.119
really good. There's there's just times
we just hear like weird noises and we'll

507
00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:49.159
hear like right now, we're you
know, northern Missouri. We have coyotes

508
00:39:49.199 --> 00:39:52.360
here, we don't have wolves here. Over the last year, when you

509
00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:57.559
go outside at night, we can
hear what sounds like a wolf howling.

510
00:39:58.239 --> 00:40:01.440
Now I you know, I to
the conservation department. My daughter's heard it,

511
00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:05.239
my wife's heard it, my son's
heard it, and they're like,

512
00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:08.880
yeah, that's definitely a wolf or
something trying to imitate a wolf. But

513
00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:14.559
it's like like a fifty like the
nineteen fifties Wolfman movie. It's like the

514
00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:17.719
howls they would use in that movie. But it's coming from out on the

515
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:23.760
farm somewhere. And we've heard other
like strange noises of like basically animals that

516
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:28.039
shouldn't be here, but you hear
them and it's almost like, you know,

517
00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:32.079
is something trying to imitate that or
is there, you know, something

518
00:40:32.119 --> 00:40:36.360
weird going on. You know,
we've got caves on the property. You

519
00:40:36.360 --> 00:40:39.199
know, it's like, are these
caves, you know, some kind of

520
00:40:39.239 --> 00:40:45.000
magnet for something or what? Are
there certain animal sounds that stick out where

521
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:49.400
you hear them and you're like,
this sounds like an eight hundred pound howl

522
00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:52.000
or something like that. No,
No, I mean, like I said,

523
00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:55.639
this wolf sound is one. And
the first time I heard it,

524
00:40:57.440 --> 00:40:59.960
I was way out on the far
end of the yard. It was dark

525
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:04.760
out. I was finishing taking care
of animals for the night, and I

526
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:09.519
hear a wolf howl and it was
pretty good distance away, but it had

527
00:41:09.519 --> 00:41:15.599
the sound of like a you know, a nineteen fifties werewolf horror movie that

528
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:19.760
you know, you go back to
watching those movies as a kid and it's

529
00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:22.519
like, oh, crap, I
got to get in the house now,

530
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:27.840
right, Like you know, it's
like that flight or fight and the flights

531
00:41:27.840 --> 00:41:30.280
like, yeah, I'm going straight
to the house before you know, rational

532
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:35.000
thought kicks in and be like,
yeah, there's none of those here.

533
00:41:36.679 --> 00:41:39.360
It's a kind of a related topic. But you know, has there been

534
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:45.119
ever sightings or talk of the dog
man cryptids in the same area that you're

535
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:49.960
aware of? Not here that I'm
aware of. I think the southern part

536
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:53.440
of the state. Now, we
have seen large black cats up here,

537
00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:59.079
and we have seen meal deer up
here, and neither one of those are

538
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:04.360
animals that are in this area.
The mule deer, I had seen them

539
00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:07.840
on and off in the woods for
about a decade or two, and no

540
00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:13.480
one else had seen them till about
two three years ago. We were on

541
00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:17.159
side by sides. I was on
one, my daughter, son in law

542
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:22.840
and grandson was on the other one, and we were way back down the

543
00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:28.119
Gravel County Road and we were going
through a beanfield or a hay field.

544
00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:30.960
I forgot what it was. And
we look over and we see these deer

545
00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:38.480
and they're hopping like Peppy lapew from
like the Bugs Bunny cartoon, which is

546
00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:43.360
what mule deer do. And you
know, my son in law, he's,

547
00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:47.280
among other things, he's a professional
hunting guide, and he said,

548
00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:51.039
those are mule deer, and I
said, yeah, And that's not the

549
00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:54.840
first time we've seen them. Large
black cats. I had seen them on

550
00:42:54.960 --> 00:42:59.159
and off a couple of times.
I've had a couple of people that I've

551
00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:02.159
let hunt up here have said,
you know, you got large black cats

552
00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:05.719
up here, and I said,
well, you know, don't tell the

553
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:09.519
conservation agents at because I'll tell you
they don't exist. And we were out

554
00:43:09.559 --> 00:43:16.239
fishing last summer on one of our
lakes and my daughter, who's you know,

555
00:43:16.719 --> 00:43:22.000
pretty calm and collected, and you
know, you know, I'm in

556
00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:27.760
the Navy. I have a colorful
vocabulary, let's say, but my daughter's

557
00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:30.079
not that way. And all of
a sudden, my daughter yells, what

558
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:36.480
the f is that? And we
look up and I did not see them.

559
00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:40.400
My son in law is like,
it's a black cat. So I

560
00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:49.320
grabbed my handgun and I grab my
GoPro and we start walking where it ran

561
00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:52.800
into the woods in the hillside,
and we're going to see if we could

562
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:57.679
find some tracks, which we were
not able to find tracks, but we're

563
00:43:57.719 --> 00:44:00.599
going to where my son in law
saw and my daughter's like, no,

564
00:44:01.079 --> 00:44:05.880
it wasn't there, it was over
here, and she's guiding us to another

565
00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:07.079
area. My sun in law is
like, now, it was over here.

566
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:13.159
So we come back around and like, okay, where did you see

567
00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:15.480
it at? And she said right
there. My sudden law said, oh,

568
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:20.079
the one I saw it was over
here, like about fifteen foot down

569
00:44:20.119 --> 00:44:23.119
the bank. So there were two
large black cats. They both saw them

570
00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:29.000
clear as day. Oh wow.
And you know that's if you've looked into

571
00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:32.280
cryptids, you know, yeah,
the black cats are like another another thing

572
00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:37.440
that they don't exist, but everybody
seeing exactly. And now it's like,

573
00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:40.679
well, now we've got potentially multiple
things going on this property. Do you

574
00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:47.039
ever hear anything weird, like,
you know, things that really don't belong,

575
00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:52.320
like a car door closing or a
rusty gate type closing sound, anything

576
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:57.920
really weird like that. Don't hear
that? I did. When my daughter

577
00:44:58.119 --> 00:45:02.880
was in junior high. I was
up here it was around Halloween with a

578
00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:07.159
bunch of her friends, and we
were, uh, we were down uh

579
00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:12.960
we were down at the like the
campgrounds kind of think where we were where

580
00:45:12.960 --> 00:45:15.400
we were at, but uh,
all of a sudden, one of the

581
00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:19.599
kids like, there's, uh,
there's somebody walking up on the hillside.

582
00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:24.039
And we look over and see and
it was like it wasn't a flashlight,

583
00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:29.039
but it was like two lights.
I don't know if it was I'm not

584
00:45:29.039 --> 00:45:31.719
going to say it was eyes.
It was almost like somebody had some kind

585
00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:36.360
of like a like glasses that would
have had some kind of a light on

586
00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:38.920
them or something where they could see
where they were going. But I mean,

587
00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:42.960
this farm is in the middle of
nowhere. I'm not just gonna walk

588
00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:46.480
down on this farm and uh,
Anya, it was something on the hillside.

589
00:45:47.239 --> 00:45:52.519
So I took all the kids,
got them kind of a safe place

590
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:55.039
where my wife could watch him,
and I got in the jeep and I

591
00:45:55.079 --> 00:45:58.800
grabbed my rifle and started going up
because I thought we just had like a

592
00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:05.239
trespasser and and we got there no
sign of anybody big for society, who

593
00:46:05.239 --> 00:46:25.800
will be right back after these messages, do you remember the color of them?

594
00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:29.480
Yeah, it was. It was
like a reddish color, like a

595
00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:34.079
not red, but a reddish like
maybe orange, and you know, no

596
00:46:34.159 --> 00:46:39.280
telling what it was. M any
when you're walking around the property, is

597
00:46:39.320 --> 00:46:43.559
there any section where you walk through
an area and you're like, oh,

598
00:46:43.639 --> 00:46:47.239
it kind of feels a little electric
here, or something just shifted for a

599
00:46:47.360 --> 00:46:52.840
minute or anything like that. Not
any one area, but there are times

600
00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:55.400
to where, you know, we'll
be walking and you just kind of get

601
00:46:55.400 --> 00:47:00.800
a weird vibe. But it's kind
of a weird vibe over the whole like

602
00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:05.960
area, you know, like there's
like, you know, there's something going

603
00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:10.079
on, no telling you know what, but you just kind of you just

604
00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:15.320
get that feeling like they're going on
right now. And usually when I get

605
00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:19.760
those feelings, I you know,
I don't necessarily go and I'm like,

606
00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:22.880
you know what, it's a weird
feeling. I'm gonna leave it be and

607
00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:27.039
I'm going to mind my own business. Yeah. Absolutely, I mean I

608
00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:30.039
think that's that's a smart way to
put it, because it's not like you're

609
00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:34.840
a big foot researcher. I mean, it feels like you're just trying to

610
00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:37.400
you have this property and you're just
trying to live on it, you know,

611
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:42.079
And right, I mean, I
I am a researcher to a certain

612
00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:45.280
degree, just because I've been obsessed
with it since seeing it. But I'm

613
00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:51.440
professional. I'm just no. I
put out a little Facebook group and just

614
00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:55.119
basically, you know, I'm you
know, ask just try to go around.

615
00:47:55.119 --> 00:48:00.400
If I see anybody that has a
you know, has had a sighting

616
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:05.199
or something like that, you know, I'll try to interview him for information

617
00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:08.400
from him. But that's you know, that's about the extent of it.

618
00:48:09.400 --> 00:48:13.559
That's actually another question I was going
to ask you. You know, after

619
00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:15.960
having these sightings, have you checked
with your neighbors? Have you found out,

620
00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:20.639
yes, there's other things happening in
the same area outside of your property.

621
00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:28.400
I have in the past run across. There's there's a few that there's

622
00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:32.719
like a lake close to here,
it's like the town reservoir. And I've

623
00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:37.199
talked to one guy that grew up
in that area and he had multiple sightings

624
00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:43.199
growing up and they still his brother
lives close by and his brother has sightings

625
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:46.199
as well well. Home Boy,
And I've talked to some other people,

626
00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:52.480
like when my son in law had
his that was like about twenty fifteen,

627
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:57.119
twenty sixteen, something like that.
Two years ago. I was up at

628
00:48:57.119 --> 00:49:02.320
our local cass and I was talking
to the girl at the counter and she's

629
00:49:02.360 --> 00:49:06.920
like, oh, my husband has
seen it. And I'm like, can

630
00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:10.519
I talk to your husband? So
I talked to him and he was talking

631
00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:15.159
about being up at the lakes and
hearing something and what he described was a

632
00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:17.920
mountain lion I think, so I'm
like, oh, okay, and then

633
00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:23.159
talking to him, he tells me
about back in about twenty fifteen, twenty

634
00:49:23.239 --> 00:49:30.199
sixteen, about the same time that
my son in law saw it, which

635
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:35.159
was around Valentine's Day. They were
coming home around Valentine's Day, right at

636
00:49:35.159 --> 00:49:38.840
where the exit where I live at
is, and he said, we saw

637
00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:45.320
what we thought was a huge like
a pine tree or cedar tree in the

638
00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:50.960
media of the highway, and I
said that it moved, and his buddy's

639
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:52.119
like, no, no, no, So they turn around and there was

640
00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:55.519
nothing there in the media. But
that was like the same about the same

641
00:49:55.559 --> 00:49:59.480
timeframe that my son in law saw
it here. So yeah, I have

642
00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:06.360
talked to you know, other people
Clarksville, Missouri two years ago someone and

643
00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:10.000
I've been trying to get a copy
of the photos. But someone had a

644
00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:17.039
whole bunch of large footprints in the
snow up around a little attraction. They

645
00:50:17.079 --> 00:50:21.000
had a skylift. It's like a
high point on the bluff on the river

646
00:50:21.639 --> 00:50:24.360
and it had a bunch of footprints
in snow. And so, yeah,

647
00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:29.320
I've talked to quite a few people
around and you know, gather up stuff.

648
00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:32.599
Have you ever looked up there's a
website called bigfootmap dot com and you

649
00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:37.239
can see like certain areas of the
country where there's way more activity. I

650
00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:42.239
don't know if it's bigfoot Map.
I've seen a couple. When I had

651
00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:49.840
my first couple ones, I was
talking with the BFRO with Matt a little

652
00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:52.320
bit and he sent a guy out
here and then we just kind of,

653
00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:57.719
you know, lost touch with each
other. But he had a guy that

654
00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:00.559
kind of came out and looked around
here. And this was actually right after

655
00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:06.320
me and my wife had seen the
one when we were camping that. You

656
00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:08.079
know, the internet was still fairly
new at the time, but we were

657
00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:10.840
we had talked to him and he's
like, yeah, I get on the

658
00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:16.000
website and there's some audio files and
the like the screen that we had heard

659
00:51:17.320 --> 00:51:24.440
was one that they said was like
a territorial But you know, we've they

660
00:51:24.480 --> 00:51:28.760
have a map or they don't have
a map. They have like a county

661
00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:32.559
by county siting list, and I
have gone through that. I think they

662
00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:36.519
have a map too, but I
hadn't been on their site in a while.

663
00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:38.800
Yeah, No, that is.
That is a great resource as well.

664
00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:44.320
Bigfoot map is good because it utilizes
that database and also he gets stuff

665
00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:47.679
himself, and it would be it'd
be really interesting to check that out because

666
00:51:49.960 --> 00:51:53.159
it might it'll probably make sense.
I'm guessing there'll be a connection to the

667
00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:58.039
area where you're at when you look
at the map. That's usually I definitely

668
00:51:58.079 --> 00:52:02.440
will check that out when we get
off the phone. Absolutely is how how

669
00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:08.679
recent would you say, what was
the most recent Bigfoot related interaction that you've

670
00:52:08.679 --> 00:52:15.559
had this spring? We had we
had something. It was kind of it

671
00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:17.599
was kind of one of those things. I didn't know, if you know,

672
00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:21.440
if it was one that we were
waiting to see if something else would

673
00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:24.800
happen, and nothing else would happened, but we had Uh. I was

674
00:52:24.840 --> 00:52:30.440
coming home early early spring, well
not even spring, like late February,

675
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:36.480
early March, County Road at night
and I saw some eyes and they were

676
00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:40.679
like pretty high up, like you
know, seven foot high up just off

677
00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:44.679
of the side of the road.
I drove past and I just kind of

678
00:52:44.679 --> 00:52:47.199
called them out of the corner of
my eye. I stopped, I'd put

679
00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:52.000
my jeep in reverse. I backed
up, and I couldn't see anything.

680
00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:54.599
Now that could have been an owl
and a tree. Maybe I don't.

681
00:52:55.159 --> 00:52:59.239
I don't know, but I'm like, well, there's something to watch.

682
00:52:59.320 --> 00:53:02.199
Let's see if you know, we
start getting some activity and you know,

683
00:53:02.400 --> 00:53:09.360
haven't really seen anything else. I
mean last summer we had a couple of

684
00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:14.760
you know, just a couple of
minor things, like nothing major. And

685
00:53:14.840 --> 00:53:15.719
I think that's a lot of them
too. As they kind of get in

686
00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:20.840
the woods and you know, they
don't really make their presence known absolutely.

687
00:53:20.840 --> 00:53:27.400
They just kind of slowly build up
to the just the kind of history of

688
00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:30.280
the property. Are you keeping a
journal of everything that's been going on or

689
00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:35.800
is it just up in your on
your head on and off. I've you

690
00:53:35.840 --> 00:53:38.719
know, I would log in,
I would log everything, and other people

691
00:53:38.760 --> 00:53:43.679
I've talked to and I mean this
has been going on since like the early

692
00:53:43.800 --> 00:53:46.559
nineties that I've been trying to document
it, and you know, in that

693
00:53:46.760 --> 00:53:51.360
time, it's like it's gone from
like I've got floppy disks that have all

694
00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:55.880
kinds of wow people I've interviewed.
I've got like the little the little hard

695
00:53:57.039 --> 00:54:00.280
discs. I don't remember what you
call those. What were they three and

696
00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:02.639
a half inch or something like that. Yeah, I've got several of those.

697
00:54:02.679 --> 00:54:06.760
I got two of those that are
filled with just sightings from this area

698
00:54:07.920 --> 00:54:10.719
I worked in when I was younger, I worked in radio, and I

699
00:54:10.800 --> 00:54:15.800
kind of use that as a way
to get in and talk to people because

700
00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:19.880
I'd help out their news department occasionally
in the area. So you know,

701
00:54:19.920 --> 00:54:22.079
I kind of be like, yeah, yeah, tell me, And that

702
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:25.280
got my foot in the door to
quite a few. Oh wow, that's

703
00:54:25.320 --> 00:54:32.480
really cool that you have those old
documentation resources that you made. Do you

704
00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:37.440
mind talking We talked a little bit
off the air about you might have some

705
00:54:37.639 --> 00:54:40.920
future projects, and I'm sure people
are curious, like, Hey, I

706
00:54:40.960 --> 00:54:45.880
want to maybe reach out to this
guy who's in northeast Missouri, because man,

707
00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:49.880
I've heard of stuff going on there
too. Yeah, and I would

708
00:54:49.880 --> 00:54:53.320
have actually appreciate you let me do
this. I do like I do a

709
00:54:53.360 --> 00:55:00.440
YouTube channel it's more like farm and
homesteading and gardening kind of stuff. And

710
00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:05.599
I've been I've been thinking about and
kind of slowly getting started. I was

711
00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:10.440
going to try to do a YouTube
channel and do a podcast with it of

712
00:55:09.760 --> 00:55:17.440
uh of cryptid related just sightings and
stuff basically in the Midwest area, like

713
00:55:17.559 --> 00:55:24.119
Missouri, Illinois, Ohio. I
mean the Momo stuff here. You know,

714
00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:28.960
I've looked into a lot on them. You know, there's a lot

715
00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:31.599
of stuff down in like Cape Girardo, Missouri, down south that I see

716
00:55:31.639 --> 00:55:39.480
occasionally down in Arkansas, the big
Muddy Monster out in Murphysboro, Illinois.

717
00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:44.239
You know, I go down there
for work occasionally, and there's all these

718
00:55:44.360 --> 00:55:50.119
you know, different things. There's
actually some active dog man sidings down around

719
00:55:50.159 --> 00:55:59.239
the Springfield Branson area right now.
And uh and I'm wanting to start like

720
00:55:59.400 --> 00:56:04.360
just bas like what you do,
like a YouTube channel and podcast of just

721
00:56:05.239 --> 00:56:09.880
cryptid stuff. And I would you
know, if you don't mind, It

722
00:56:09.960 --> 00:56:14.360
may be six months before I really
get it going. But if anybody's out

723
00:56:14.360 --> 00:56:17.039
there and has a story they'd like
to share, I would really like to

724
00:56:17.079 --> 00:56:22.280
hear it, and I can give
out the uh my email address, it's

725
00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:25.559
for my other YouTube channel that I
mean, it's it goes to me.

726
00:56:25.719 --> 00:56:30.440
I all I've done so far is
I've set up a YouTube channel with nothing

727
00:56:30.480 --> 00:56:36.920
on it that's called Midwestern Monsters.
Excuse me, but but my email address

728
00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:43.480
it's McGee Farms seventy two at gmail
dot com and McGee is M A.

729
00:56:43.639 --> 00:56:47.119
G Ee. And you know,
if if someone's out there, you know,

730
00:56:47.119 --> 00:56:52.519
if they're in the Midwestern area and
they've seen, you know, the

731
00:56:52.519 --> 00:56:57.639
big hairyman or a dog man,
or you know, some other kind of

732
00:56:58.960 --> 00:57:02.920
animal that shouldn't be there that you
know doesn't exist, or if you've got

733
00:57:04.119 --> 00:57:07.320
you know, one in your in
your town, like a legend of one,

734
00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:10.480
please reach out to me. I
would love to hear your story.

735
00:57:10.559 --> 00:57:15.440
I would I would love to hear
about what's there because I'm trying to put

736
00:57:15.440 --> 00:57:20.559
these together and like I said,
my hope is just to kind of share

737
00:57:20.559 --> 00:57:23.920
it. When I had my first
encounter, you know, there wasn't a

738
00:57:23.960 --> 00:57:30.519
lot of resources. I had very
supportive family members that had also seen and

739
00:57:30.679 --> 00:57:36.519
experienced things, but when you first
see it, yeah, people don't believe

740
00:57:36.559 --> 00:57:39.880
you, people make fun of you, and so just getting the resources out

741
00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:44.719
there so you know, somebody sees
something and they're like, well, yeah,

742
00:57:44.719 --> 00:57:46.760
I'm not the only one that's that's
seen it, you know, I'd

743
00:57:46.760 --> 00:57:50.840
like to have that for other people. Plus I love hearing about them.

744
00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:54.199
You know, everybody. Everybody loves
a mystery, everybody loves a scary story,

745
00:57:54.760 --> 00:57:59.599
and I'm no different. So if
you've got one, please rench out

746
00:57:59.679 --> 00:58:05.280
and and share with me. Yeah. Absolutely, We'll have those links in

747
00:58:05.400 --> 00:58:08.039
the show notes for this the description
on YouTube, So guys, make sure

748
00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:12.880
that you hit that up, and
you can make sure you subscribe to his

749
00:58:13.280 --> 00:58:16.159
channel all that good stuff, because
there'll probably be some really cool stuff coming

750
00:58:16.159 --> 00:58:22.239
out on it. But Matt,
thank you so much for hanging out this

751
00:58:22.480 --> 00:58:27.199
July fourth. I appreciate you hopping
on and sharing the wild stuff that is

752
00:58:27.239 --> 00:58:30.000
going on down to your property in
northeast Missouri. Oh no problem. If

753
00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:34.039
you ever get down this way,
you know, hit me up. I'll

754
00:58:34.079 --> 00:58:37.519
give you a tour of where we've
seen some of the stuff. Oh yeah,

755
00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:39.159
totally. Well, thanks thanks for
chatting Matt. Hold On. One

756
00:58:39.159 --> 00:58:45.360
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757
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759
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760
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761
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762
00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:13.519
related to the following, or know
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763
00:59:13.559 --> 00:59:19.159
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764
00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:22.400
the list. All right, I'm
going to use this space this week to

765
00:59:22.440 --> 00:59:27.360
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Summerfest and Oakridge organ as an attender.

766
00:59:27.920 --> 00:59:31.159
I won't be presenting or anything,
but I'll be hanging out trying to interview

767
00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:36.440
people that have had bigfoot encounters.
If you're from the Oakridge, Oregon area

768
00:59:36.840 --> 00:59:40.239
or surrounding and you've had a bigfoot
experience, please contact me directly Bigfoot Society

769
00:59:40.239 --> 00:59:45.000
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770
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774
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775
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777
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the big Foot Society. I'll see
you there, and again, thanks for

778
01:00:22.239 --> 01:01:15.559
listening. Her and I can get
out here, we can tell our stories.

779
01:01:15.960 --> 01:01:20.159
Maybe there's somebody else out there listening
it's too afraid to tell their story.

780
01:01:20.360 --> 01:01:22.880
Maybe this will give them the courage
to come out. And I feel

781
01:01:22.920 --> 01:01:27.559
so bad about it. Who cares
what anybody's thinks. I know what I

782
01:01:27.599 --> 01:01:46.639
saw, I know what's out there. That's all I care. Please let

783
01:01:46.679 --> 01:01:52.320
people know, Please let them know. If you ever see one of these

784
01:01:52.360 --> 01:01:57.320
things, you need to tell because
if you don't, then shame on you,

785
01:01:57.320 --> 01:01:58.920
you know, shame on you,