Bigfoot Ran Us Out of Tennessee Pt. 2: The Mammoth Cave Encounters | Archives

0:00 You're listening to Big the Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us. But it didn't stop, Jeremiah, It didn't stop Carrie. This is the most probably the most intense, one of the most intense stories I've ever heard. I'm just I've been speechless the whole time. And this is is it rankin Bottoms w M A.

0:51 R A N K I N rankin Hill Road But a lot of people call it the Bottoms or Rankin Bottom Okay, And it's like wildlife record. Yeah, yep, exactly. That's where we lived. Yep, near the end of that peninsula, surrounded by the way. Yep, that was it. I have not I sent him a Facebook message, But I think he gets so many from so many people. I have not been able to actually talk to him yet. I'm sure he's overwhelmed by people bullying him and people messaging him left and right, but I have not. I have reached out to him, but I have not. But I would love to be able to talk to him. What I want to compare some of these things and encourage him because I got attacked too and bullied in the beginning, viciously attacked, and you do have to have some tough skin.

1:46 I guess when you get older, you just get to the point where heat. And I tried to encourage him on his Facebook. I sent him something that I said, Harley, it doesn't matter what people think. And he believes in God too. I heard and say that, and I said, you believe what I said. You know what you saw. God knows what you saw, and you know it's the truth. So it does not matter what other people think or believe. You know it's the truth. So you just need to keep speaking what you're speaking. It doesn't matter what other people think. You answer to one person, your God and yourself, and that's all you need to worry about. Nothing else. So he needs to just ignore those other people because they want to shut you up. They don't want if the truth. Think about it, if the truth really got out there. What if I don't know what these things are?

2:35 They didn't answer me. What if they are nephilom? Do you know how what if they're not? What if there's some kind of military creer? Do you know how much that would change all the national parks? That would just pretty much probably wipe them out, and all the money the states get for the national parks, not to mention if they were some kind of biblical creature, it would change. It could rewrite a lot of a whole lot of religions. It could just change everything, and mostly money wise. But I want people to know because they need to be careful. I believe that, just like the big Foot's told me, I believe there are some good ones and there are some bad ones. And they said just like people. And I truly believe that. And I do believe a lot of these people that go missing, that got snatched. And I heard the story from Paul about the hope I didn't butcher his last name, the little boy, and that I don't remember his name, Stevie. I don't remember. He was like foreign, his family was camping or something. He went over the hill and he just disappeared. There was a spook second. Or I've heard stories about lot people doing tree counting and they turn around to tell the guy ten fifteen feet behind those carrying the clipboard, and they're gone. If they're moving, if they can move as fast as the hummingbird, yes, they could run by snatch somebody up so quick they could come out of their shoes and be gone with that. You've even seen them.

4:06 And if they're if they're strong enough to pop a fiberglass dent out of my truck completely smooth, that's like superhuman strength. That's not that's nothing of that's no human. We don't have human capabilities to move that fast. We don't have human capabilities to talk to somebody in their mind. That's why it bothers me when people say that they're primate. Pran eats cannot talk to you in your head. I might believe that if they didn't talk to me in my head, and I am, and I, like I said, I would be glad to take a lot of detector tests any day on that. I still can't even believe that happened, and that's happened. That happened again recently with those light lines I sent you. Did you get that picture that was so great that we're talking about them here?

4:53 Indiana was short. We were there for a year and since, and it was all corn fields. It was very flat. We loved it. I liked it because I can see what was around. I did miss the forest a lot, and there wasn't really wildlife where we were, but soon we were there. It was an older farmhouse and I couldn't really do the stairs, but my dog would not sleep near the window. And if you've ever seen a typical farmhouse, it's got the two kind of layers levels layers. It looks like the classic farmhouse. And the one layer you can jump up on this little cinder concrete wall. It's about shin high and jump up six feet seven feet, jump up on the first layer of the roof. That first layer of the roof would carry you. There's a little nook that meets with the second layer of the roof and then it goes right to my bedroom window.

5:48 And if I didn't send you pictures of that, I will, but I think I did. And as soon as we moved in tap. I'm like, oh, please, nose, can't not again. So I told my husband, I'm like, okay, let's sleep downstairs. You're oh, you're gonna ltice one. So I said, let's sleep downstairs on the air mattress until the We paid some a moving company to unload our stuff from the Penske truck. So we're sleeping downstairs in the air mattress, right underneath the two living room windows that are, like I said, knee high off the floor. These windows were two, and there's two or three of them in the living room.

6:28 And there was a bunch of pea gravel in the front of this house too, in the front of the windows. And all of a suddenly you're crunched and you can hear something by peter walking, I'm thinking, please, no, please, no, not here, no, And then all of a sudden, I hear something. You're ready for this one sniffing me sniffing at the window. Imagine Clifford, the big red dog that loud sniffing me. And I'm like, it was not like a normal dog sniffing. Oh no, I'm taking normal dog sniffing. Multiply that by like fifty and I'm like, what sniffing me? And I lay in there and yeah, I went to each side of the window and had it snow whatever it was snows right up to the window, sniffing me, and I could not believe it. So I told my husband the next morning, miss up on the other side of the living room until the movers got there, and we digressed for a second. My daughter moved in that following year, and I didn't tell her about this part, but she says, guess what, guys, I was downstairs sitting on the couch texting, and she was like twenty two twenty three at the time, and she says, I wasn't the TV wasn't on, nothing was on. I was just texting my husband, telling him here, visiting you whatever. ILL be home a couple of weeks, and all of a sudden I heard something at the window. She's the guys, I'm telling you the truth. She's a promise you, I'm telling the truth. I heard something sniffing me at the window.

7:56 And I looked at my husband and I'm like, uh huh, She's all she's did you hear that? Tim Like yep. So she told me the exact same thing happened to her, and I never even told her that this happened to me. And then her bedroom was upstairs with ours. And within five months of living at this place, Jeremiah, five months, this whole farmhouse had been redone. It was beautiful. They did a beautiful job. Inside. Everything for a ceiling had been done, cabinets, bathrooms, everything except the stairs. Everything had been redone. And within five months of living at this place, they had worn the shingles completely off the roof in one path right to my bedroom window, the spot on the room where I slept. And the only reason that I slept on this side that me and my husband didn't switch sides is because that's the only spot in the room where my dog's bed would fit. And his bed is like the side. He's one hundred and thirty pounds, so his bed is like the size of a toddler bed.

9:01 It wouldn't fit anywhere else. And he would not sleep in that bed. He would not go anywhere near that window. He would lay in the hard hallway floor. And this dog, like I said, I take a shower, I try to do my business in the toilet, he will not leave my side. Like he's sitting here right now. This dog doesn't go more than six inches away from me, and he would not go anywhere near that window anywhere. He would not sleep in his bed, he wouldn't go. And I'm like, and I tried that. I gave him treats, I gave him his favorite stuffed animal. Nothing, he would not lay in that bed for anything, and they would tap on the window. Finally, I just kept ignoring him, and I would pray and I read. I stuck a Bible inside the curtain one night, and nothing seemed to work.

9:45 And finally they started tapping on the window, and I already knew they were there, and I got so freaking sick of it. Finally I jerk the curtain. I'm like, you know what, I'm just gonna see what's there. I'm just gonna have enough to just open the curtain and just see if. And he's I'm sick of this crap, So I did. Why would I do that? Why would I think something wouldn't be there? Well, I had no idea, because I'm idiot. Of course something's gonna be there. Something's always been there. So I jerk the curtain open, and I see these yellt lime. I had to look up. The sounds kind of stilly, but I had to look up what the color lime green met. It's a little bit of amber, a little bit of brown, a little bit of yellow gold, and a little bit of green.

10:29 So I'm called them lime green eyes. That's what I saw. Two of them, and they were the size of golf balls. They were spread apart. I got a normal sized woman's hand. They were spread apart eye ball from the end of my middle finger to the first probably second line of my wrist that far apart, so I don't know, that's what six inches seven inches apart. And the crazy thing was, I couldn't see anybody because it was really dark that night. There was no moon, and of course, and I could see this thing and it was going up like way up and way down and way up and wait down.

11:09 Let's just imagine the ocean way of doing that. That's how it was doing. And it kept doing that, and I saw it, and I got so scared. I turned so quick and ripped that curtain back. When I jerked and turned, I tore them at my moniscus in my knee. That's how hard and fast I turned because it scared me. So bad, and then it dropped me right to the floor and I'm crawling across the room and my husband's dear God, what happened? Why are you on the floor? Oh? I heard so bad? Yeah, And that ended miwoking there for several months. Yep, and I eat that right after that my head. This is when my daughter moved in, But right before she moved in, we kept hearing them jump.

11:52 They almost sounded like they would run and leap onto the roof and run across the roof and then jump off all night long, All night long, they would do that, and we just kept thinking, I'm like, Okay, it's maybe it's a bird. I'm like, how can a bird be the heavy? Maybe it's maybe there's nothing else that could have been. There was nothing around where this house was, out in the middle of nowhere. Like I said, the more remote you live, so no other things because they don't want to be seen. So where are you going to go if you don't want to be seen? As the remote as possible. We like remote too because it's quiet and you get away from the crazy of the world and you could have your own little piece of heaven, so to speak, and have your own little serenity and not have to deal with neighbors fighting or the cops or shootings or whatever craziness of the world going on.

12:44 So they kept jumping on the roof and running across, and that within five months we had to turn an insurance clean in on our house eighteen thousand dollars insurance claim for a brand new roof because they literally the shingles off the roof in one path when the roofs came out. One company came out and they saw it looked like a melted in half of a dog footprint, not a bigfoot like a dog footprint, and I don't know that these were big foots. So I said, they were like, why'd you have your dog on the roof. I'm like, dude, like, why look at how am I gonna get my dog on the roof? And why am I putting on the roof. It's a middle of summer.

13:29 That's the craziest. I didn't do that. And they're like, yeah, we discussed it, We're not going to take this job, and they split and I'm like, okay. So we called another roofing company and they were like, it's weird that there's a path just one path directly to your window or this one window, and I'm like, yeah, that's ri sleep. And they're like, why are you guys running the back and forth across here your kids. I'm like, I don't. My kids are grown. And I'm like, nobody's running across the roof and they're like, the rest of the roof was fine. This part is the only part that's worn down direct path. And I'm like, I don't know what to tell you. I'm like, what do you want me to say? So now our house insurance is sky high because of that eighteen thousand dollars claim for a new roof that had to get put on it.

14:15 And I took pictures of the half of that melted point was melted into the shingle, it's crazy. And then I took pictures of where the path was tore down, like warm off. The shingles weren't and they said that they couldn't just do one half. They had to all match, so they had to replace the whole roof. That's why they had to do a whole new roof. They don't they can't just and they didn't have those shingles anymore. So when my son in law came to visit. I was telling him about he's a big guy, oh sixty six, two hundred and sixty seventy pounds and he was about twenty four twenty six now, and I told him, and he's, yeah, he's just looking at me like okay, he's looking at my daughter like your mom told like your mom was crazy, and she's looked at him like I told you. I don't think she knows what. I think she believes I saw something. But because she knows. Anybody who knows me, anybody, including my friend Angela that told me about you, they know that I tell the truth like I'm I tell it like it is, even if it's hurt your feelings.

15:19 Sometimes I'm too blunt, but I try to. I just try to be honest, as honest as I can be. And if I don't know something, I'm just gonna straight up and say I don't know. I don't know, but they he I told him about it and he came an e vaked and I'm like, we don't smoke or we don't drink, so I don't bring any alcohol in the house. If you drink, and I say, if you vape or whatever, just please don't do it in the house. So he went outside. The vape was like ten o'clock through asleep, and he comes upstairs and he's knocking. Our bedroom door was open. He's tacking on the door and I'm like, his name's Kirk, and I'm like, yeah, it's Kirk, and he's something just happened you might want to know, and he was all out of breath is and I turn the light on. His face was pale white and he's a big old beard going down it's the new thing, and he's got dark hair, but his face was pale white.

16:09 And I'm like, like, I knew something bad has happened. And I had a feeling like I knew what it was. And I'm like yes, And he says, I went out to the pole barn just to stand behind the barn and vape and just enjoy the stars out there because it was beautiful. You could see the stars at night, and there was cooling up, so there was a lot of corn you couldn't see. The corn was like eight feet high, and he says, all of a sudden, I heard something coming through the corn, and I thought it was a deer, but then I only it sounded like two legs crunching and walking, and I got scared. And I'm like, why'd you get scared? He's because I smelled a smell that started gagging me, and I just, all of a sudden, by itself, my hair on my arm started standing up and it was getting closer to me.

16:55 It sounded like it was stomping's and I don't know, I just got this overwhelming sense of fears. So I ran. He's like, my vape still laying out there. I'm like he dropped these. Yeah, I ran. I'm like, oh my gosh, and I'm like, is the door locked? He's I think, so I'm like, can you please make sure the door's locked? And he calls my daughter. She's a five foot two. They go make sure the doors locked. So, yeah, it scared him, and he said he never did see who it was. But after that, I couldn't get them to come back my own. They would not even come my daughter. He would not come back to that house. Nope, he refused to come back. It all wouldn't come back and went right after that. When I was I would walk on that road too, and the corn would be right beside the road, and the same thing. But this time, it was different. I could hear something in the corn, but I got a very scared feeling, not a feeling like I did when I knew the bigfoots around. I was a feeling like I was in danger, like something was about to happen, Something's about to grab me danger.

18:01 And I stopped. And my dog, he was so freaked out, kept looking at the corn the whole time and growling. I couldn't even get I couldn't even get him to walk because I was so busy dragging him, and I just stopped walking. And finally after that that, all of that stuff happened. That The last thing that happened at this house before we moved here was I was sitting in the car. We just got back from Sam's Club. It was like thirty minutes away Lafayette, Indiana. We my hesman took the stuff in the house, and it was cold, it was wintertime, and it was dark. It was like eight o'clock at night, and I was sitting out in the car and I was texting my daughter, telling him we just got home and there was nothing to text and drive, so I soon as we pulled up and I can't text fast, I text ling Jinger, it's really embarrassing.

18:55 So I texted really slow, and I'm texting and telling her we just got home. Everything's good, and all of a sudden it was weird. Out of the corner of my eye, so I'm facing we had a pole barn, a two car garage pole barn fate And if you pull up in the driveway, the house is on the left and the pole barn is at the end of the driveway you're facing it, and then behind the pole barn is corn all around it. Everywhere you can look as far as the eye can see corn everywhere. No houses. And this was in Wolcot, Indiana. Wolcott about twenty miles twenty five miles from Lafayette, Upper Indiana, Northern Indiana on the Illinois side, and we were only like thirty minutes from the Illinois border, maybe forty minutes. I out of the my periphial vision, I saw something go by so fast it was solid black. The only thing I could see is it looked like tigers, two black tires rolling because I could see the knees coming up and down and they were going so fast it looked like two tires like rolling together. And the same fluid motion, and it went by so quick, and I had my door open because I was getting ready to get out, and I had half one foot out of the door, and I was halfway sitting in a seat, and I heard the corn across the when it crossed the road, small little country road. Everything in there is like and you

20:25 going squares, big like big squares all around these arms. So I heard the corn like exploding and like crashing and cracking when it busted into the corn last corner of the football field, a length away from where I was sitting. And at that soon, as soon as that went by me, my husband, I was so scared. I was terrified, like I I. And it wasn't because I saw it. It whatever this energy this thing put off, it put off an energy of fear, like death and fear like I was like like terrified, beyond tr like I was ready to start beab honked, and I was ready to drive away, but then I didn't want my husband coming outside where I drive away from my own house.

21:13 That's how scared I was. And the second I got ready to start laying on the horn, he opened the door and he was like, I just saw something crashing the cornfield. I don't know what it was. Getting the house. Now, get in the house, and he's I just feel very scared, and I'm like, what, yeah, And as soon as I opened the car door and I stepped out, and he stepped out the front door and hit us both at the same time, we started gagging, like the smell of ammonia in sulfur was so strong, like when people say they're gagging to the smell. My mouth was watering so much. I couldn't swallow all the saliva down so fast, and it was like choking me and burning my nose to the point where I was almost throwing up gagging, and him too, and I'm like, look, we couldn't talk then, and I ran in the house, hobbled in the all as fast as I couldn't shut the door, and finally, after thirty seconds we could breathe get that smell out of our nostrils. I'm like, look, if it was a skunk, which I know it's not, because it'd smell nothing like a skunk at all, smell like sulfur and ammonia. And I said, if it's a skunk, there's no wind outside, which was unusual for this area. Because we lived in the area where all the big giant metal windmills were up.

22:32 And one of these blades, because I've seen him, they went down a street putting new ones up as the length of an airplane, just one blade. They are ginormous. So I said, it was windy there, but not where we lived that day. That day wasn't. I said, if it's a skunk, there's no wind, that smell will still be here when we open the door. Let's wait five minutes or less than five minutes and see he's okay. So two minutes had passed and we opened the door, not even five minutes, and the smell was completely gone. So if it was a skunk or some animal, why would the smell be completely gone. If you hear skunk, the smell lingers for like weeks. It's like the smell like it stays in your radiator, like you can't ever get rid of that smell out of your nose. It doesn't go away in two or three minutes, not completely away.

23:28 That was just so strange, And after that we that was about the last thing, which I think was quite enough that had happened there. But the same thing, tap on the windows sometimes not as much as they did in Tennessee and not as much as they do here. But I don't know that it was the same thing that I was dealing with. Something there. I don't know. It felt bad, like bad bad. The house did. But whatever that creature I saw was that felt bad. And then we got here and it's been even crazier.

24:09 Carrie, this is absolutely incredible. It's crazy to think we made it through Tennessee, we made it through Indiana. You weren't kidding. There's a lot to talk about. I think this is definitely going to take a more than one episode to get through, if you would be okay with coming in coming on at a later time of course. Yeah, this is here, Carrie, probably the best one. Here's I've got the best evidence out of anywhere we lived so far. Again, so I know, was it all building up to here? Who knows. I don't know, but I'm all I didn't even realize we were that close to mammoth Cave until we got here, and then I'm like, oh, great, you heard heard your ground. I'm like, thanks, yep.

25:02 And then that now, so you're near a mammoth cave in Kentucky, and oh my goodness. And we have a cave on in Jeremund. We have a cave on our property, two of them, two of them on the property yet I got a picture of the opening of one. But there's somebody said, did you go in? I'm like, are you are? You are? What are you smoking? They're no, I'm not going in there? Are you crazy? I like to keep my limbs in my head. Oh no, I got those light beam pictures. Those were insane. I got those. It hadn't stormed. We were talking about it was crazy. My husband's well, we haven't really had any big flude activity here, have we?

25:45 And I'm like, no, not really. And then all of a sudden, you it's what It sounded like, everything our elects on, everything we got when you powered down, and we're like, what just happened? Like the house was like black because it was nighttime, and we were like, I'm like, oh, I'm scared. I'm like, what do you say? I don't know? That was dumb? Was I'm like, yeah, I was dumb. And then all of a sudden, I hurt and I ring the bedroom to get the flashlight. Stumbled in the bedroom, I should say, because it's pitch black and I didn't even have my phone on me. So I go in the bedroom to grab my phone and grab a flashlight, which I have stashed in all the right places. Now after all the experiences, I'm like a bigfoot prepper. I know what the stash where. And when so I heard in my head, you know what, it was like this, you want to see something cool, look out your window.

26:37 And I'm like, oh, no, I didn't just hear that. No, So I'm like, there's no way I'm doing the window thing again. So I stuck my phone on the other side of the window and started snapping pictures. And that's when I got those light wands, and I knew that they were I knew they were out in the front yard. It was pitch black that night. We had no storms. There hadn't been any storms that day. There hadn't been any storms in four or five days, nothing, not even rain, and it was pitch black and every it was Yeah, it was like, I want to say, nine o'clock, ten or maybe ten o'clock at night. I don't know, it's kind of late, not too late, but yeah, and then I was And then I looked at the pictures later and I was like, oh my gosh, look at those.

27:21 We don't have any lights outside. We don't have anything to put off lights we got there's no only thing as there's a little well on top of us here, a little small mountain. We got a flag, and there's trees and more trees and hills. And on the other side of the trees. Our neighbor down the road told us that used to be He said, if you ever want to go walking around, don't ever go down in this area. And we're like, why, He said, because this used to be old mines. And there's a whole bunch of empty mines all throughout here. We're like mines, mines, like holes in the ground. He's, yes, holes in the ground, coal mines, and they abandon them, and it was like one hundred years ago, and they've just leaves and brush have grown over them, so nobody even really knows where the holes are anymore. And I said, how do you know this? He because I used to own these nineteen acres right here, and I sold it recently to a logging company because I can't even use the land because there's so many old mines. I literally can look out my closet room, bedroom, window and see like the big I guess you would call it a holler, like a big dip flattened out kind of spot goes way down in between two mountains where all these caves are so yeah, and there's water and there's plenty of food, and they're here too. We had to unplug the girl. We had to he had to pull the circuit breaker out of

28:51 the go. We have a lower garage building door building here. It's a full and a half car garage cinderblock building. And their new thing is they've been opening the doors. You go, you open this one little door you go, and they used to have used to be like a body shop down there. The people are in the house floor. It's a normal door and they open the door. It's not locked. You can open the door. You go in there and there's a panel on the wall and you just push a button and any door will open. The other day, I'm out there and I hear a bunch of sticks breaking at eight o'clock in the morning. I'm shaking out my dog's blanket. He has his own little blanky. Yes, he's a vicious rottweiler. It's likes a beady bear, a blanky.

29:33 So I'm shaking out his blanket and I hear a bunch of sticks breaking like a bear. It sounds like a bear sliding down a tree, except there isn't. Everybody says there's no bears around where we're at, and I haven't seen any signs of one. And all of a sudden, they hear the garage yee ye, And I'm like, what that sounds like your garage? Like what? So? I told my husband, are you freaking kidding knees? They're opening the doors again. I'm like, what what do you mean opening? He's like, yeah, they've been open him all week long, playing a game with me. I'll they'll open one, I'll shut it. I'll come back the next day. The other one's open, I'll shut that. I'll come back the next day. The other different ones open. We call an electrician out and they and he called a supervisor and they spilled two hours out here when everything and they said, nothing is wrong with the panel alall. So he says, they just if it keeps going up and down, he said, just pull the circuit breaker thing out. Yep. We had to pull the circuit breaker board out because they got opening the garage doors down there.

30:34 That is absolutely incredible. And it so you're having bigfoot activity on your property as well. Near Mammoth Cave. Oh yeah, big time, and they're climbing. We have a oh seven foot long little skinny window. I haven't seen one before, so I don't never really know what it's called. It's like a long window above your bed, maybe a foot from before the before you get hid. Be as high as a little bit lower than the top of a door frame. But if it's above your the bed. So in the morning, if you want you wake up in the sunlight's coming in. I don't want sunshine in my eyes first thing in the morning, so I have a little curtain put up there. We did have it open at first until I felt like something was looking at me at the window, and I told my husband that.

31:27 And there's these little brick things. They're like borders. You put them up, they stand up and there they got humps on them, and you put them around your flower beds, and they kept all being knocked down, and he was like, are you knocking down at these brick wall border things. I'm like, no, hick, no, those things are because are all flattened out right beneath the window. And he said, there's greasy or oily handprints, looks like gree like someone had oil, like baby oil on their hands. And they're all like lots of them like too. When I say lots of them, too many to count. It was either multiple times been going on or more than one where something was up there looking in the window and they got their handprints all over that vinyl siding of the house.

32:13 They're still there. Somebody hits it. I can get really good shots of the pictures. They don't come off. It rains and rain, it could be torrential rain here, and they those handprints don't come off because they're oily, and they're all over the side right underneath of that window. And guess who side they're on my side? Of course my side, yep. And they're all so something and it's about and the crazy part is it's higher than eight feet off the ground. It's about nine feet off the ground. So I don't know if they're if something, if they're that tall, or if they're climbing on each other's backs and put them to look in to look in the window.

32:54 But I put curtains up and since i've been since I put little curtains up to block that off. The curtains are too long, but I don't care close. I feel like I can sleep and not have be fear like something's looking at me. Since I put curtains up, they'll be throwing little pebbles at the window. And the same thing with the with the with the back deck. Dogs can't even go out there. They can't even go out there at all. Right after we moved in, it was like they let us know, hey, we got you here. We know you're here as soon as we've moved in the end of November, first of December of last year, and the first week of January, and I thought turtles hibernated.

33:37 Oh there was one, two, six turtles, turtles the size of dinner plates, almost all lined up on our front porch. First of all, they we got big concrete stairs. The whole front porch is a big concrete covered front porch. And these turtles, they were bigger than the sides of a seventy page notebook. Like you said, there were size of dinner plates. And it's like something set them all at the front door. They were all lined up and I opened the front door and I'm like, come here, we got a situation. What God's name is? One time, I'm like, I don't know. So he stacked them all up on top of each other. He carried them all.

34:22 He carried a three stack of three all stacked on top of each other, with his hand holding a side to the shelves. It took two arms. They were so big. I got pictures of that too. And then he carried down to the woods, and there was a pond down there too, goes down in like a hall or a big dip. There's a pond down there. Oh. And then he carried another the other three stacked down there he sent the edge of the woods. Oh, and I was gonna tell you and in the wintertime, Oh, two things I saw exactly what Harley saw. It's kind of the cave. There is this one tree and it's probably, oh gosh, I don't know. I was wide around as say a recliner seat, and it goes down into a holler.

35:07 So it's hard to say how tall it is, but I would say at least thirty thirty feet high. The slow top of the tree is not broken off, but it's twisted like a spiral, exactly like Harley said, twisted like just like they did the deer leg twisted around and then ripped off, and not one other tree around it is messed up. And that tree is directly in front of the cave opening, directly in from the cave opening. And I got pictures of that too. I got pictures of the cave opening in the winter and the tree. We were trying to find a church to go to since COVID we've been having it at home, and then we kept hearing the bell ring and finally we found the church. It's literally highte like you could see it from the end of our driveway. How convenient we could walk there if we wanted. And we were going to the church and my husband said, oh, look at that tree, because oh my god, it was so white you couldn't miss it, like it just happened. And the crazy thing is and he said it and I said it too, But I don't even know how it's possible. Sometimes we both have felt like they can hear what we're saying inside the house, like the power that's They've done that to us in Tennessee. They did that to us, and they did it to us here in Kentucky. And like, how can they hear what we're saying inside the house, But they did, and we were just talking about getting close to the cave and this wintertime was so cold, getting close to the cave and not going in and

36:38 maybe zoom shine the lighting or with our big handheld lighting and zooming up with their phone and taking a picture, but not definitely. We agreed not going in there. And as soon as we talked about that the next day, on the way the church, that's when we saw the tree. The whole top of it like twisted, but no other tree around it messed up, and there's trees all around it. It's in the middle of the forest. I can see why the bigfoots here would be totally ticked off. I can tell you right now. It's upsetting to me. They logged the Jesus out of here. We have seen we counted a daily during the day, and I don't even know where all these trees are coming from. There's a log truck. We've seen ten log trucks go by almost every day, and one day traffic had stopped because they were doing roadwork, sixty trees on it. And these trees, oh my gosh, they're probably as big around as a reclaimer one tree, and there's sixty of them on there. Now, imagine ten of those a day. That's six hundred trees a day. And we see at least ten logging trucks go by every single day, Monday through Friday. They are logging.

37:54 I don't even know how there's any forest left here, I really don't. That's why they hate That's why they would hate us, because we're tearing down all their forest. I didn't know that the logging is that bad. That's a lot of logging. Are you actually inside the state park? No, we are not. We are nineteen miles away from there, but we are right across the street once again from a wildlife refuge thing. It's called Peabody, I have to look it up again. Thing. It's called Peabody, Peabody State Refuge or Peabody Wildlife Management Refuge. The road is like half a mile away from our house, if that's the thing.

38:42 It's called Peabody, Yeah, Peabody mild life Management. But it goes along. We drove down the road and it's right across the street from our house, and it goes a long ways all way way back in there and there's no houses and there's nothing, but you're you can drive down through there. We're talking about western Kentucky then, yes, okay, yes, have you have you had any visuals of Bigfoot around your property this time? Yes? We one of the garages in the back. They the people we bought it from, had a body shop, and the last garage they didn't put a top on it, so it's all cinder blocked walls, wall on the back. Oh, this is the other thing. Yeah, wall on the back, wall on the side with the window, and then a big bay door. But they didn't put the bay door on it, and they left the whole pallette of cinder blocks out there because they sold the house. They were going to make it a paint a spray paint booth.

39:50 I guess we're all a body shop, so we okay, let me back up before I tell you this, because this goes along with it. The house is a metal roof. The metal roof I guess at some point had gotten painted. It used to be red. I don't know if it was red before it got put on and they painted to protect it or the owners, I don't know. But anyway, this half of the fourth bay it has it's lower into the ground because it's because it's like we're on top of a hill and it's like they cut a chunk out of the I call it a mountain, but here they're called hills. It's a mountain to me. We're on a mountain. It's like they cut a chunk out of the mountain and put the house here to flatten it out. So the garage back there, the fourth one kind of goes down a little bit, so anyway you could.

40:41 Part of it is a cinder block wall you can stand on. It's I don't know, five feet off the ground. I can't climb on that because I'm only five six, but a big foot certainly could or something. So anyway you can climb on that and jump right on the roof. All parts of that corner of the roof have started getting torn up and looks like scratch marks on it, like something running up and down. There no other part of that roof except that part. Do I know for sure they're doing it? No, But we just bought the house seven months ago and it was fine, and now all of a sudden, the exact same thing is starting to happen again. That whole section is all getting ripped, pulling off and ripped up. And I told my husband, I said, I'm pretty sure I just heard a whoop outside.

41:32 So he's let's go outside and whistle. So he whistles, and they whistle back at him. I can't whistle like he can. He'll do something. He'll just randomly do random crazy whistles, and whenever he whistles, they will copy exactly what he'll do, and he'll do right back a bit, way louder than a bird. So he'll start laughing, thinking it's funny. It's like a game. And then he goes in the house. He's I need to drink water. I'll be right back. He's not gonna wet my whistle, get it. And I'm like, oh my gosh, that's so dumb. So he goes in the house and I'm standing there and I'm just like waiting, and I'm on the and it's a deck. It's a it's a long deck, forty foot long deck. Some of it's covered and some of it's part of it's not. So I'm standing there in the sun just looking at the part of the garage it doesn't have a topple on it, and all of a sudden, I see this face pop over the wall and I saw its face in daylight. I actually saw its face and it wasn't as scary as I thought it was going to be. But it peeked over the wall and saw me, and it was crazy because it went real all it's all of us. I see why that don't get spotted because they don't do quick jerky motions. They do very slow fluid motions up or down or so, they don't do something quick to catch your attention, your periphial vision. It went straight up and popped its head over real quick, over the wall and look, they're dead at me. And I was like looking right at it, and I thought my heart stopped. And then it went

43:04 right back down very slow and was gone. And my husband Pop says, okay, I got a drink, and I'm like, you shouldn't have left something up and didn't it. I'm like, of course, and he's good. You see what you see? Yeah, I saw its face. It looked like a young one. It looked like who's I got nothing to compare it to, I would say a teenager. It looked like a man if you ever came. I can see why I see why people say they couldn't shoot. It looked just like a man, but with hair. It looked like an Aboriginal Aboriginal like dirty man. It had a lot of hair olliver its face, but young. You could tell it was young because it had a smirk like it was a funny game, like popping it like teaking. It said it with a wall hahi, and then he went in, I can see you. And then it went its head right back down and it had giant round eyes. I could see the weights of its eyes.

43:56 Oh. I was probably from the deck to where this spelled is fifty feet forty feet, so I was close enough to see for probably forty feet and forty feet. I could see big, round, dark eyes, but I could see the weights of his eyes. It had sand color skin, dark like gray, like ashy color. If you've ever had a wood stove, and you know that ash color kind of gets on the inside of the wood stove, it's like that. I didn't see hands. I just sew shoulders, and the shoulders were smaller. I did see a little bit of a neck on it. It didn't look is developed. Maybe that's why I think it was a young girl. What a teenager. It didn't look certainly didn't look like a baby, but it didn't look like it didn't look like the other ones. The big fully developed both out ones of muscles and no neck and all that, and its hair was all the ones I've seen the times the sightings i've seen. The hair has always been very shiny, very clean, very gloomed. If you lived in the what you would be expecting to see matted up, dirty, knotted up hair with stuff all And maybe they'd do that.

45:07 They camouflage themselves because we're always finding every morning where you're always finding sticks and leaves, like tiny little sticks or stuff that could get stuck in your hair all over the back deck, and even at times it's not windy, And first we were thinking it's animals, but it's all in different places all over the deck, little sticks, And finally we're like, maybe they're putting it stuff in their hair. I don't know, but yeah, I had a flat nose, a wide nose. It wasn't completely smashed flat to its face, and I could see a bridge of a nose with a wide bridge, probably the length of my thumb wide.

45:48 The head was bigger than my head. It had dark brown woody color hair like not a tree, but darker, so I guess mahogany, but was not as much red in it, more dark chocolate, like dark chocolate, like a dark chocolate. There you go, that's perfect. Yeah. And I saw teeth because it smiled, it did a little smirk. It didn't open its mouth all the way, but I could see teeth, and it looked like giant chick lits like in Theron, like in the like. I could see two front teeth, like they were so wide and they were white, like very white. But I couldn't see the whole tooth because it just did a little smirk. And but I did see a neck, and the hair wasn't all the way completely covered in hair filled in I guess, like the big ones just had thinner hair on its stomach and chest. But this one I could see a neck, a skinnier neck. So that's why I think it might have been a younger one just playing a game. But that they the ponded, oh, it was probably, oh gosh, a football field. I'd be lucky to say that a football field length away from inside my bedroom were in a stain right now, during the wintertime, I was like Wow, that's a pond. And when we talked to the neighbor down the road, he said, yeah, that's underground spring fed pond.

47:09 My wife grew up in her house and she used to go fishing there at that pond. There used to be an old farm back there. So I got ready to ask him, I said, has there been anything strict? And he's cut me off right there. He's a nope, nothing, nope, nothing happened around here, Nope, nothing, no, nope. And he wouldn't even let me. You wouldn't even let me get the word strange out, shut me down right off the back. So that told me, and that's when he said, if you ever want to go walk around, do not go over to this area because it's covered in snakes. And that's where an old mining ground used to be and the miners abandon it like a hundred years ago and just left it. So there's holes everywhere that go into caves mines, and who knows where there We don't. They're not even marked. You could just be walking along and all of a sudden you turn your buddy's gone into a home somewhere. That when I saw the pond during the winter, we walked somewhat close to it, and then all of a sudden I told my husband, I said, stop, and he's what I'm like, look at that. It looked like, okay, the best away can describe it. You know when people get married they have the little wedding trellis looking thing and it's got flowers completely covering it. All goes all round like rounded from one side, goes over the top and goes all the way down the other side. It looked like that, but more like square, like a hut like, but it was very tiny. It was only like maybe four foot in depth, but it was about eight feet high,

48:43 and it was completely woven together like you could see sticks and leaves and vines like braided. Not I've seen how of course, I've seen how vines grow because we lived where we live, it's very jungly this time of year. It looks like they were braided, so they would stay that way, sticks and vines and everything. And it's like you s something stood inside that backed up and stood inside that little half a hut looking thing. It doesn't have a door, and a deer would have come down to that pond, which that's the only water source anywhere close around this immediate area. All they got to do is step down and grab them. And it's something that's not naturally made, and it's right next to in front of the pond. And so if the deer came from the back, which is where they would come from most likely, because it goes deep into the mountains and there's no houses back there where we live. In the front, there is a road, So the deer would be less likely to come from this area. Doesn't mean they wouldn't, but they're more likely to come from more wooded area. So if they came from the back, it's something all they have to do is step right out of this hut and grab one. And I took the picture of it, but I don't know if it o't if you can really tell what it is or not in the picture.

50:06 I've got a phone, so if you looked at it on a computer, you might be able to do that. Oh my gosh. This is when we first moved in this house. The lady told us. She says, Okay, I don't want to freak you out, but I used to have chickens and we had a chicken coop back there. But my chickens kept disappearing, and I kept going through forty dollars worth of chicken feet every week. I haven't had chickens, so I don't know how much it costs to feed them until I looked it up. My sister has a farm, and I asked her and she says, no, that's no, that's way too much. And she said the chickens kept disappearing, and every week I have I had to keep getting you chickens or trying to find new chickens to get and feed. And she's finally I just gave up on it because it became ridiculous. And she says, I had a deer feeder out there on the tree right up middle of the yard is fenced in, she said, outside the fence, but the deer feeder kept getting twisted around and all the food was gone, the deer corn.

51:10 And I couldn't afford that either, so I just took that in the middle of the yard. And I'm like, okay, I said, when I she got two little metal trash cans. They look like an oscar of the grouse from Sesame Street trash can, like one of those like a old old metal trash cat, the flat lid with the handle, and they're tiny. They're like come up to oh maybe the bottom of my knee, and they're pretty round, maybe two feet around twenty four inches around. So she had those filled with chicken feed and she kept them on the back deck. So we move in and as soon as we move in where you're well behind our house, there is a lot that fixes all the school buses and snow maintenance vehicles and stuff like that. It's just a guy that owns up business and he just fixes these on the side and it's not like a full time, twenty four hour big business. It's just a couple of guys.

52:07 We thought that it was them, and then it amped up. It was then I realized was something banging on the garage doors the lower building, and then then we were ignoring it. So then something start banging on the roof of the house super loud, and we were ignoring it. And then I said one night, I said, I think something's picking those trash cans up right on the back deck. Our bedroom has two French doors on it, which. I don't like. I wish it was a wall of course, goes right to the deck. So I said, I think something is picking up those trash cans on the deck and moving around. He said, Oh, it's probably a raccoon or something. I'm like, I don't think.

52:49 So. It sounds like they're being dropped, and it's pretty loud. So it's gotten wherever we lived so bad. He sleeps with two pillows up against his ears just so he can sleep. Otherwise we can't sleep. So then all of a sudden we heard the slow dam and the next morning the trash can was dented, like a big dent in it in a print. I'll send you a picture that one. I don't think I sent your picture of that one dented in half, like something just pushed down it and just dented. It was weird, and I realized I opened it and I saw a little bit of chicken feed, and I'm like, oh, they've been getting fed, and now there's new people and they're not getting fed anymore, and they're peeded off that they're not getting fed. That's what's going on. So it's we weren't feeding them. And then it got more aggressive. So then the next night the roof it's covered. The metal roof on the back deck that's covered stops right at our where our bedroom door, our French doors are to our bedroom, so that's five feet from the bed. That metal roof literally five feet higher, so ten feet. Then all of a sudden, three o'clock in the morning, I hear, we hear the garage door, same damp all night long, Jeremiah, they would bang loud all night long. There's nothing in nobody around that would be banging all night long. Nothing nobody knew, nothing that loud and that close. So then all of a sudden,

54:20 three o'clock in the morning, we hear this bang so loud. Have you've ever seen a cack gets scared to jump straight up on all fours? That's what I did, except in the bed, my whole body just and right straight up out of the air in the bed. I thought, I swear I thought I had a heart attack. It hit the roof so hard it dented part of the roof in there's a big like, oh three two and a half foot dipped in the roof now where it goes way down, probably twelve inctent in the roof now right over like right next outside our bedroom room to dent and in bang to get our attention. And finally I got so mad, I stuck my face I was not opening that door. I stuck my mouth up to the door, and I'm like, wey are not feeding you.

55:09 Get out of here. In Jesus' name, get out of here, I said, get out of here. Yeah, And I told him, I said, stay off our roof. You're tearing it up. You've tore off the other one. Stay off the roof. And you're screaming at the woods again like a nutcase. I guess it's a good thing. There's no neighbors seeing me screaming at the woods. They probably have me committed. But yeah, they've been banging and banging. The banging has just eased up. And that's when they went to the garage door opening thing. And since he pulled the circuit board out or the breaker box out or whatever he pulled out something to do with the breakers like two days ago or yesterday. Actually, as a matter of fact, I don't know what the next thing is gonna be.

55:50 That's why I was afraid to talk to you at nighttime, because they come right up close to the house at nighttime to almost hear what we're saying. Just gosh, I forgot the guy from Clay County. I cannot remember his name you had. He said, they're outside watching me right now. Listen, and they ripped the whole Yes, they said, he ripped the whole kitchen window. Out his story I heard, and I'm like, yeah, he's exactly right. They do. It's like they come close to the house at night. I feel like we're in a fish bowl, Like we are their entertainment, we are their TV. They come close to see. What do they do? We're boring people. We go to church, Oh, we watched church on TV. We read our Bible, we listened to kleb. There's nothing exciting that happening here. We're not getting drunk, we're not screening and yelling. We're not shooting out going, we're not doing fun. We're going borings.

56:40 I don't why didn't find it. I don't know. I don't know what it is. My husband said a long time ago when he first met, you're like a battery. He's you always seem to attract things and people, and you draw off if you feel it. And my sister, I don't agree with it because against what the Bible says, but she does it. She's actually psychic in South Carolina, and she's worked on that ability to do stuff. I have some of those abilities, not all of them. I don't know everything. I couldn't I wouldn't pay the lottery and stuff like that. But I can feel their energy. I would say more of a sensitive and can feel energies when they're around, especially if they're good or bad.

57:26 And I feel them when they are around, and I think, I don't know. Certain people can feel energies and they put off an energy that you just you cannot ignore. It's so strong. You just know when they're I don't know how people can't know when they're around. It blows my mind because I don't know. But like I said, those light ones I took there was no storm, there wasn't anything. And then I went to take more and my phone died and I'm like what And I looked when my phone was fully charge, one hundred percent charge. I'm very neurotic about having my phone charged. Ever since all this has happened, I always want to make sure my phone is charged. He chase to take a picture, the power goes out, and when I when I went to get my phone after the power is shut down, and I grabbed my phone, it said one hundred percent.

58:17 I ran into the bedroom closet. It's a big walking closet and has a window in it, and on the other side of the window was the front yard, and then the little road, little country road, and it goes on the other side of this big ravine while these mines are it's all overgrown and it dips way down and goes in there and very rocky, and just I wouldn't walk and I'm sure it's loaded with snakes. It probably is. And I just started taking pictures because that's when I heard, Hey, you want to see something cool? You want to see something? Hey, do you want to see something cool? And I'm like, why what? And yeah, And I knew where to go. I knew that they were in the front, so I wasn't about to open that curtain again. I did that once before and got hurt.

59:03 Was not yeah, but that's what. And I started to try to take more pictures and then all of a sudden my phone was dead and I'm like, it was blinking red and that was it. It just shut down and wouldn't do anything else. Do you ever think that, especially in the area that you're in right now, do you think there could be other cryptids like dog Man in that area as well. I don't think so okay, not in this immediant area. And I only think that, but I don't know for sure. But I think it's mostly bigfoots, but I don't know that for sure. There's a couple. There's two or three times that we've been here and I had felt and it maybe the dad or the Alpha, but I've been so terrified, and it's always been three three thirty. I'll shake my husband, wake them up, and I'll just point at the wall and I've told me and I and he was like, and I whispered, there's something standing right And that happened in Tennessee too, and in Indiana was at the window. But it'll come right up to the wall and stand right there and it can hear and it's waiting to hear something. But I felt when it comes up to the wall. And I don't feel this when they're all around all the time. But the alpha, I guess it's the Alpha. It's gotta be because he puts off and it's a heat. I know it is when he comes around that went behind the wall. Oh my gosh, I literally want to I'm like a little girl.

1:00:32 I want to crawl into the bed and hide. I want to hide behind it. I want to cover up. And I don't even want to get under the covers and hide. I want to get out of there and hide. The overwhelming sense of fear comes over you, and it's almost like the fear factor starts happening before you even realize what to be afraid of, if that makes sense. Hey, there's a big foot out there. Then you get afraid. It's like they put off this energy, so you feel the fear and anxiety first, and then you realize that they're what's happening, Like why am I why? Oh my gosh, why am I so afraid? And then you feel that they're standing right there. That's happened three or four times since we've been at this house. At the big one, whatever the big one means, has been right at that standard, right behind that window. And I honestly feel like it's tall enough to look in that window and that window behind the bed. Oh it's from the peak in the window, it's easily it's nine feet off the ground.

1:01:40 Do you still have pets with you at this house? Yes? To the two same two cats and the same two dogs. And I will not absolutely will never leave them outside on the deck alone. And like I said, the deck is it's pretty high up off the ground because we're on a mountain. And then in the middle of the yard is fenced in because the lady before had a little poodle or something to take out. And the middle of the yard is fenced in, and it connects right with that garage building. But both sides, the back, both sides are surrounded with deep mountains. The back on the other side of the garage is deep mountains. And then there's a I would never leave them outside alone. Never, No, not after how not after how fast I've seen that bigfoot commune as fast as the hummingbird. They could be on that deck. Oh, that's the other thing they do.

1:02:33 They jump on the deck at night time. They leap the deck top of the deck railing. Oh is six feet off the ground, maybe seven. They jump on the deck over top of the railing of the deck, and then they run across it and then they jump across. Oh. And Ore, you know this one our middle of our yard where it's fenced in. It's like a black chain it's like a black painted chain link fence and it has a gate on each side of the gate. Something has been jumping over the fence where the fence Okay, it almost looks like if something was running on all fours and ran. I don't know, it's scott like. How to explain it? Okay, if you take your hand and you push on a screen real real hard, and you can like and then you look and see like where you've pushed out the screen, but it didn't pop out.

1:03:31 Does that make sense? What's been dented outwards? Yes, that's what they've done on the fence. And it wasn't like that when they moved in. And it's getting worse, and the top of the rod of the fence that holds the chain link fence together is slowly getting more pushed down in the ground and pushed down in the ground and push down in the ground, and all the black paint, now that I'm sure it was made that way, is now all starting to It's not on there anymore. So it's like that. I think they make a game of it. I think they run and they try to jump over the fence and sometimes the day miss, I don't know.

1:04:11 I don't know what they're doing. It's just it gets it's definitely getting weirder and weirder, and this new property. Are you hearing any sounds that shouldn't be there, anything that's just confusing at night, or anything that you said you've heard language before. Things like that. We have were during the day. It was a Saturday afternoon. We had unpacked a bunch of stuff and we were it was like two o'clock in the afternoon. We were taking a nap and it was cool, I want to say, March of this year, and we opened the living room window. When the back it's where that garage building is and the pond and that big holler where the cave is.

1:04:56 All of a sudden, we both are awakened to this. Oh. And it lasted for thirty five seconds. It was so low. We were looking at each other. Okay. First was okay, it's just some crazy red and I got in the woods. Maybe drank a little bit too much. You're stumbling around. First of all, I don't even know where he would come from, because there's nothing back there. Those woods go for a long They go all the way to Bowling Green, which were like, oh, thirty miles from Andre's. It goes a long ways. And we heard that. We were like Okay, when's it gonna stop? We're just looking at you like when I'm like, finally it stopped? Him like, did you hear that? Easy? Yep, I heard that. And he's been back there and he said that he has heard talking, and I'm like, what were they saying? Is? I don't know?

1:05:43 I couldn't understand what they like? What do you like what? He's not as good of as descriptive and explaining things like I am. I go really into depth explaining things obviously because I'm very visual person. He's more of a mechanical person, and he is I don't. I don't know him, Like what did it sound like? What do you mean? Don't you can't explain? He's the just sounded like talking, but I couldn't understand what they were saying, and like you couldn't hear it? He was like I couldn't hear it, but also at the same time like I didn't. It was like like it was a different language. Both of us have heard missus, you know, sound really weird like the rest hasn't drums and we heard this in Tennessee too, almost like Indian drums, but very not super loud and not medium like light to medium sounding, but drums like it's like something playing like a rhythm of Indian drums.

1:06:39 And we're like, do you first, Mike, And first we thought, okay, maybe we're just hearing it. Maybe it's just our hearing. Then our granddaughter came and spent the summer with us, and she was like, hey, guys, I'm here in Indian drums. What do you guys have a place around here where people play Indian drums? And we looked at each other like we knew it. I'm like, no, sweetie, it's just somebody down the street. I wasn't gonna tell her to make her scared, but she heard it too. And sometimes it's very faint, but sometimes it's loud and it's in a rhythm. It's definitely in a rhythm, like it's blind an Indian, like an Indian drum. And we've heard that here in and in Kentucky, in in Tennessee, not Indiana.

1:07:23 When I was in Tennessee and I was going to take the walk the day, that thing, whatever it was, I guess the bigfoot followed me. I was getting ready to get my dog on a leash, and I think I did send you this picture. I went to there was I don't know something, I don't know. I just felt like something was there. I didn't even see anything yet or hear anything. And I turned to look and I sent you a picture of this one right on the court where in the front of our house in Tennessee. The road turns like an U shape and then an elbow, and like an elbow in the road, and then it goes down to the reserve. There's a there was a water dream there, of course, from all the water that runs off the mountain and it drains into the reserve water the lake over there. I looked and I saw this little, like two foot little creature standing on top of this I don't want to say so it sounds that crazy on top of this pipe. And I happened to have my phone in my hand, and I already had it on camera just in case something happened. So all I had to do was just hit it with my thumb, so I didn't even turn away. I picked my phone up really quick and just I didn't have a chance to aim. I just clicked a whole bunch of times, and I was able to capture two pictures of it. But I saw it with my human eye, you know, not just like you can see things on your phone. Sometimes you can't seem through naked eye. It looked like it had a squirrel face. Squirrel's eyes are

1:08:54 smaller around and there's it looked like it had squirrel ears, but it was wearing like a white robe. It's not like I need to be committed. Oh god, it sounded. Oh gods. It looked like it was wearing a white robe and holding a spear. But it looked like tissue paper. If you at Christmas time, like white tissue paper, you'd wrap something in fragile that wouldn't get broken. That's like the color it was. I could see through it, but not all the way see through it. And as soon as it saw me, it was standing on the water drain, right on top of this water pipe, and I guess I don't know where it came out of because as soon as I looked, it was standing on there holding a spear and had a robe like a kate or robe.

1:09:39 Because I saw it hanging down. The spear was in front of it, and it looked right at me, and I was like, like, I just I'm like I was in shocked. I didn't even know what to think. So I just took my hands. I didn't look away. It took my hand as quick as I could, lifted my phone up, and I already, like I said, I already had it on camera because of the big book stuff going on. So I just took it and I already had my thumb ready, So I just start snapping pictures and I was able to capture it on there twice, standing on top of the dream and if you zoom in, it does look like a little squirrel face and like it's holding a beer. And I circled it, and I'm pretty sure I sent you that a couple of those pictures.

1:10:20 I'm pretty sure that you did as well. I'm going to have to look back through our correspondence for sure. After this you'd mentioned that they're really good. There's you mentioned in the first part with Tennessee that you had unmarked vehicles on your property. Has that happened again in this area in Kentucky or hopefully that's something you haven't had. To do with It has but only once, and I really hope And that was why I really didn't want to show my face on it, because my husband's scared about that too. We have known a couple. I'm not trying to make Harley scared worse. I had a good friend, Claudia Aclee unexpectedly a heart conditioning. Yeah, did you know her?

1:11:04 Hear about her. Unfortunately, was never able to talk to her because that was before I got into the subject. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there's two other people unexpectedly Yeah, and they were having a lot of And I'm scary. You know, the government could do anything they want to do to your stuff, and I'm not We're not trying to lose our home and be homeless or any anything else, or have our bank account froze, which it would be sadly disappointed, but it's just it's scary. But I also want people to know to not be afraid to come forward, because there really are things out there that your human eye cannot There's things out there that we're just not aware of. And I think if the government made people aware of them and just then it's our choice. If we choose to still go in the National Park and go hiking for three weeks, buy ourselves deep in the mountains, and that's that's up to us. But I think we should have the right to choose whether we want to put little kids at risk, or elderly or put our own selves at risk. That should be our choice, not for them to choose. I just but I think, oh, I think they definitely know one hundred percent now. And it's almost like that these beings, whatever they are, have the government can't control them. They can't control what they do.

1:12:25 They can shoot them, they can they can kill them because I know that they are flesh and blood. I know that for sure, because I've seen them, and they want footprints. And I went to the Bigfoot Smoky Mountain conference a long time ago. It took me two years the first even want to talk to people, and a couple of people kept trying to get me, and I was too scared of being laughed at and ridiculed because I had been before and now and I heard all these people go missing. I don't want it. I don't want to not talk anymore because I want people to know, so they have a choice. Just be aware and be careful and people. I saw something yesterday, some lady said, it's not fair. It seems like the more that the people want to see him and go hunting them, they can't see them. And then those of you guys that don't want to see him, you're the ones that do see him. Well, let me tell you something. It has changed my entire life. It has changed my husband's life.

1:13:23 It has changed our animals lives. I don't I would never go. I don't want to go kayaking anymore because I know they can swim. I'm scared to go. I used to go hiking all the time. I can't. I got it. Like I said, I got a bad meaning. It doesn't bend all the way. So I got bad mean replacement. But I used to go hiking with my dog alone all day long. I don't do anything like that anymore. Like it got to the point in Tennessee where I wouldn't go. I wouldn't even leave the house. It got so bad in Tennessee, Jeremiah, I wouldn't go anywhere. I wouldn't even leave the house. I was that scared. We got out of there because I knew there was so many of them that I just didn't want to go anywhere. I was just scared. And now I don't know.

1:14:08 It doesn't I feel like if they wanted to hurt me, if they could have, and I just feel like my relationship is stronger with God now and I feel like I'm protected. I just don't feel I'm not saying they can't hurt me. I'm saying that they don't want to because I'm not trying to hurt them. And I think if you're not trying to hurt them, I wouldn't speak for all the Bigfoots. Really can't speak for any of them, but just from experience, I think if you're not trying to hurt them, and they don't see a weapon in your hand, they're not going to hurt you. But like they did tell me when they did talk to me in my head the second time, and I know it was not me, they said there said, there aren't many of us, some good, some bad, just like people. And I truly believe that. I do believe that there's some good, some bad. Oh our experience, my husband said. I think he had a good point. I think there's some that are they just get like rogue mails that just are not abiding to their tribe, their troop, their family, that they're in their rules and they just get kicked out like a road bear in a national force the National park in Smoking Mountains. They're just not abiding to the rules.

1:15:19 And they just get taken out. And I think that's what happens with a lot of sometimes these bigfoots, and those are the ones that are bad. Yeah, I agree, and I would love it if you'd be able to talk to the audience for a minute. Do you have any advice for people that are experiencing things similar to what you've conveyed during this interview? What should they do? It depends, I guess it depends on what's happening. If they feel like they're in danger. We moved, but not everybody can move. I would go out there and I would talk to them, and I did that. I did that in Indiana, and I did that Tennessee, but I hadn't had enough experience in Tennessee to know how to deal with them and know what to say. I've done that here and I've done that in Indiana and I went out there. And you cannot feel any fear when you talk to them, because they can sense if they are I only believe they can do that if they are close enough to you. They can sense your emotions.

1:16:24 And I do believe not all of them, but some of them can read our minds if they're within close proximity, so before you go out there, you cannot feel any fear. And maybe just have a family member not go with you, so it's not like you're trying to be all big and bad and bully them. But just have a family member watching out the door of the window for you, and go out there and just talk very firmly and very sternly. And I pointed the other day, and I yelled, and I said, I was pointing at the woods, and I said, you do not climb on on this roof. You do not climb on this building. You do not tearify fene not terrorize my animals anymore. I said, it stops right freaking now. And I said, and I mean it stops. Do not do not do it again. And I said, I know you can hear me. And since and when I've done that before in Indiana, it stopped.

1:17:21 They did stop jumping on the they did stop jumping on top of the farmhouse roof. They didn't do it to the new roof, and they've stopped so far since I've done it here, they have stopped. They'll stop for a couple of days, and it's either new ones coming in and doing it again or they just decide to try your patients again. So I would go out and talk firmly and sternly to them and don't show any fear and point and yell and tell them you mean business. And it's worked. It's worked for me twice. I've had to go out and do it again, but it does work. That is great advice.

1:18:03 I think they're gonna do what they want to do. You're welcome. Other than that, I don't think there's much I don't think there's much else we can do because I think they're gonna do whatever they want to do. But I think they do have some respect for people that will speak to them acknowledge that they're there. Hey, I know you're here, but you stay off of this. And I wouldn't and I would not suggest feeding them. I can tell you that right now, because they were getting fed by accident and they yeah, day working. Oh yeah, it was a huge problem. They banged on this roof and this garage roof in our house for months all night. Think about you're trying to sleep, Jeremiah, and somebody's banging on your garage door all night long, like as hard as they can, all day long. And there's who you're gonna call the big Foot police. Oh no, not hardly.

1:18:54 Yeah, there's no big police. No. That's the only advice I think that I can give, and it would work. And when I prayed that night, and when they were at the door and they talked to me in my head, and when I said, okay, Carrie, calm down, go get your gun, and that's when they said, do not bother or don't bother it, don't it will not do any good against us. And then of course I started laughing, which didn't help. You didn't know, Sua. But what else are you gonna do? What if they're right? So I prayed. I said, in the name of Jesus, you're to lead his property, and the name of Jesus you need to lead. You are not welcomed, or you need to leave. It got dead silent, quiet, deafening quiet, quieter than I've ever heard quiet. And that worked too.

1:19:41 Does it work all the time, No, But I think with both of those I've been able to keep things a lot calmer where I'm not afraid to go outside anymore. I'm not afraid to walk down to the garage anymore. Stuff like that they left me. I stuck a bible in the window here for them to and they left me a wooden cross out of a tree bark that they tore off, oh forty feet in the air, and they made me a wooden cross. And this thing it looks I don't know, it's hanging there. It might even be old fishing line. It looks like it's hanging there right behind our ten feet from behind our graves building on our property, hanging in the air, a wooden cross they made me. I think I sent you a picture that is like mind blowing. It's literally just hanging there and it's like invisible. I don't like it's gotta be fishing line because I don't even see how it's hanging there.

1:20:34 You can see nothing that's attached to really, right. I think some people are just more attracted to than others, and I don't know why, but to trust me, I wouldn't wish it on anybody. I wouldn't some people they want it, but I wouldn't. Be careful what you asked for, be careful what you wish for, because you just might get it and you can't and you can't undo it. There's no going back. Unfortunately, that is. What I hear and I think you're absolutely right. But it has been a pleasure talking to you today, and thank you so much for sharing everything that you've experienced. And I want to invite you to do something in listeners as well. If you go to Bigfoot Society podcast dot com, there's a new section at the top where you can leave a voice message and Carrie, if you ever experience any stuff, you can easily leave a voice message there and then I can play that on the show to do a little update, and you can always send me messages as well as we've been talking. But sure, yeah, but listeners, if you have something that you want to share and you want to leave a voicemail, you can do that over at Bigfoot Society podcast dot com. If it's a long story, yes you can just share multiple parts, go in leave multiple voicemails. But Carrie has been a pleasure chatting with you.

1:21:47 I'm sure, and I hope I can help at least one person, anybody, One person would mean the world in me compared to what I've been through. I would be a blessing. Yes man, thank you so much for coming on the show today. Thank you, Jeremia. You have a blessing you as well, Toby. Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that no one can explain, or if you're a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you've stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense.

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