June 28, 2024

Bigfoot Ranch, Pt. 1

In this episode of Bigfoot Society, we delve deep into an extraordinary interview with Connie from Iowa. Listen in as Connie shares her gripping and lifelong encounters with Bigfoot, starting from her childhood years in Jefferson and Van Buren...

In this episode of Bigfoot Society, we delve deep into an extraordinary interview with Connie from Iowa. Listen in as Connie shares her gripping and lifelong encounters with Bigfoot, starting from her childhood years in Jefferson and Van Buren counties. Discover riveting stories of her frequent sightings, including new updates to the legendary Lockridge monster case and various events along the Des Moines River. Connie recounts her chilling face-to-face experiences, the mysterious Bigfoot known as Chapinga, and the incredible tale of Big Red's journey to Des Moines. An enthralling conversation packed with personal insights, historical connections, and fascinating details that every Bigfoot enthusiast will appreciate!

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Society and now let's get on with the

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show, all right, Big for
Society. We've got the privilege of talking

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to Connie today. She's from Iowa, and it's a really weird synchronicity because

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I've been trying to track down Connie
for multiple years now, and I had

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a random individual reach out to me
over email sharing that she knows this individual

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named Connie and you really should talk
to her. And so it's a huge,

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huge synchronicity that this all is even
happening because I hadn't been successful in

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shracking her down. But Connie,
it's a pleasure chatting with you today.

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I would love it if you would
just share your story what you remember over

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the years growing up in this situation. Oh, I have I have a

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diary that I didn't start keeping until
in the eighties, e the eighties,

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and I have a lot of interactions
that I had wrote down. And so

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yeah, it's best that you just
asked me questions because and then maybe it'll

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trigger something I'm getting old. Yes, ma'am, I will definitely do that.

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So Connie, can you share what
part of Iowa this started back?

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It sounds like you had interactions with
bigfoot all growing up on a farm,

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And can you share what part of
Iowa that started in Southeast Iowa? Okay,

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now we both know Southeast Ia is
an extremely bigfoot saturated Jefferson Jefferson County,

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yes, ma'am, van Buren County
and Okay, so Jefferson County and

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Van Buren County and this was in
the early eighties or all. Well,

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No, Jefferson County was let's see, from fifty six to probably seventy and

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then then I got married in eighty
and moved to Van Buren County from eighty

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to two thousand and sixteen. And
so you're just saying that the timeframe that

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you lived in those counties not necessarily
the timeframe that you had bigfoot activity in

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those counties. Correct. Well,
I had a sporadically in different times in

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my life. Was I was grown
up in Jeffer County and over by Low

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Creek and that was about the time
if you look up, I think it

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was BFRO they had had Mike Pifer
was a guy, he was a kid

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back then that his dad they lived
out by four Corners and that was only

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like three miles from us, and
they had they had turned it in because

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his dad seen one eating apples out
of the top of an apple tree.

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I can't tell you for sure what
year, Connie. Are you talking about

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the fifers that had the Lockridge monster
case in? Yeah? Yeah, three

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miles away from there. Yeah yeah, Oh my goodness. Yeah, this

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is insane. Oh yeah, and
in a good way, not in a

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bad way, Connie, Like,
that's incredible, Like you were involved with

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the Lockridge monster case? Oh man, that's all. I never told no

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one. I just like my granda, well, my grandmother when she told

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me, she told me when I
said, what are those when we seen

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him out very picking one morning early
and she says, Oh, that's just

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a tribe of people just like us, and she said, you don't have

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to be afraid of them, they're
just really big man. I thought,

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okay, and I never was.
And then then the first incident, I

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think I was, let's see,
oh gee, one of the something as

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simple as back then you had out
houses and I had a younger brother.

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My stepdad says, take him out
to the bathroom, he's got to go.

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So I took him out there and
I and he was probably four,

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and I was four years older than
he was, so I was probably about

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eight then. Anyway, while he's
setting in the bathroom, I'm swinging back

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and forth on the door, and
when I swung around, I looked backwards

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and there stood a great, big, bigfoot behind behind the outhouse. Anyway,

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that was that was my first up
close encounter. It's sorry approximate year

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on that, Connie Well, probably
fifty seven, nineteen fifty seven and nineteen

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fifty seven, and that was close
to Lockridge. You were saying, yeah,

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yeah, three miles, so there
was bigfoot activity in Lockridge years in

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years before the Lockridge Monster incident of
the seventies. Oh yeah, oh yeah,

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oh yeah, goodness, this is
incredible. No, I don't think

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this. Yeah, oh my goodness, I okay, I need to.

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This is very exciting for me as
a bigfoot person. So I spent a

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lot of time researching bigfoot history in
the nineteen seventies. Connie, and I

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know, like there are guys with
the Iowa Bigfoot Center, the Iowa fit

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Information Center, and they were researching
Lockridge. So you saw one in fifty

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seven, and do you remember any
details about what this bigfoot looked like that

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you saw. Well, he was
a lot taller than the outhouse because I

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was I looked at him back.
I was swinging on the outhouse door and

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I had my head back and when
I when I swung around, and he

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was standing back there. Here's probably
I don't know what the average heigh of

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an outhouse was back then, but
here's probably three feet or so more taller

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than the outhouse, at least much
taller and a lot any adults you would

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know at the time, Oh yes, oh yes, oh yeah, oh

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yes, I'm guessing I'm guessing nine
feet. Yeah. Then do you remember

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seeing anything facial details at all,
not really. It was it was at

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night when I had to do this, and yeah, and the neighbor's security

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light just just shone across the field
to the outhouse behind the outhouse and a

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little it was just real faint,
and yeah, it wasn't. Yeah,

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I didn't see any real great details
other than his hair was three or four

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inches long, dark what color and
then a dark color that looked like brown

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or black? Or did you notice
anything the ordinary about the arms. No,

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all I've seen was the top from
over the edge of the top of

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the outhouse that it was standing behind
the outhouse, but I do, I

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don't remember. And then the next
time my brother we were I don't know

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the other I had two younger brothers
that were ten years younger than me,

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and my brother and my one evening
we were playing outside and the younger ones

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were pulling the older brother, which
they weren't anyway, and this big foot

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runs bias, probably two foot from
us, runs bias, and my brother,

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which was older that well, he
still wasn't over five years old,

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said, went in, told my
stepdad a bear ran past us, and

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boy did he get a skin in
for lion And that's all I remember on

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that. I just never said anything
to anybody other than my granny. And

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like I said, we and the
morning that we seen him out there,

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and that was out by lockreachs too, of four Corners. That the four

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Corners is actually a few miles north
of the town of lock Reach, so

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that's where that's where Mike Pifer's place
was. And then we just lived a

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few miles west of there. But
for other people seeing Bigfoot in this area

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of four Corners north of Lockridge,
oh yeah, I'm sure there was.

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I'm sure there was. I'm sure
there was. But that back then,

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you just didn't talk about stuff like
that. Why was that then? You

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didn't want people to know you're nuts. Sure, yeah, no, I

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get it. It's only become a
social in the last few years. But

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and then I had I had encounters
off and on all through my life.

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And what I've learned from my kids
and my grandkids that usually if because they

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were all around them and and uh, my my daughter had one Okay,

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for example, she had one that
we called Big Red, and she had

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had encounters with him when she was
younger, and then when he actually put

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his hand on her back one night, they would make the electrical part of

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your car not work and stuff,
you know. And anyway, sorry,

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I have a few clarifying questions before
we go past it. So what years

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this set this happened to your daughter. Oh gee, let's see. Just

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really he was a teenager, so
let's see. I think Tony was about

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seventeen, and she was probably about
sixteen, so she was born in seventy

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one, so it was about early
to mid eighties. Anyway, they had

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been it had been on a Friday
night, and all my kids hunt.

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We lived in the country, so
they they were raised hunting and trapping and

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stuff like that, and had they
had been out. It was it was

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a weekend and they had been went
out and they'd come home fairly early,

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like ten o'clock. And about a
quarter mile from us was the Des Moines

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River. There's been a lot of
them up and down the Des Moines River.

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But anyway, this and we lived
in the same area within a five

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mile distance. But anyway, four
is what we're talking about right now.

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Now we have moved to Van Buren
County. Okay, thank you, Okay,

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Now we're in Van Buren County and
my daughter, for example, they

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had pulled in this field, just
about a quarter of a block from the

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hose house, and down over this
field down the hill was the bottom of

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the river. Well, they pulled
the car up and parked, and Tony

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tried to the lights went out on
the car, and Trace told Tony quick,

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goofing, you know, quit trying
to scare me. He said,

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I'm not. It just went out
well anyway, and so he takes he

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takes a flaf slight that kept going
off and on, off and on,

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and she stayed up at the car, and she said she got out and

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was standing there, and she said
she could hear Tony walking through the stuff

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down to the edge of the river
to check their traps. Well anyway,

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and she said the next thing she
knew, she felt something put their hand

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over her, on her shoulder,
and it covered most of the top of

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her back, and she screamed,
and she said, you cuss, And

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she screamed, Tony, don't be
trying to scare me. But when she

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screamed, he answered back to her, what do you want? So she

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said that spooked her and she ran
all the way back up to the house,

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which was quarter mile and it was
dark and out in the country and

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yeah, it had a fin or
two you had to climb on. She

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said. She made it in no
time. But I can yeah, I

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can introduce you to her. Name's
Tracy. She can tell you some of

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the things. But anyway, later
on and later on, when she had

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gotten divorced and decided to move to
Des Moines, Iowa, a big red

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followed her. Okay, she said. She lived, I don't know,

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in an apartment at that time,
I don't know, a couple of stories

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two three stories up and red clumb
up the outside balcony. And I thought

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she would just kind of exaggerating,
well anyway, because I just thought that

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was kind of word that a bigfoot
would go down to the capital of Iowa.

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Big for society will be right back
after these messages. Well then,

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and at that time she was still
living Let's see, when I first moved

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down to Missouri in sixteen, I
would have some that would stop. I

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lived in a mobile home that was
by a pond, and it was the

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last one next to these couple fields. And anyway, and I would have

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them stop by when they were traveling, when they'd migrate, and they'd stop

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and see me, and they were
just like my neighbors. That's all I

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can the only way I know how
to explain it anyway, And Trace decided

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she come to visit me, and
she decided she'd move down there because things

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were so much, you know,
more inexpensive down there than it was in

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Iowa. So she moved down there. And right after she moved, Big

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Red showed up scratching on the screen
door of my mobile home that I lived

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in and wanted to to know where
Trace was. And I told him,

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and he showed up at her place, and she had a boyfriend that seen

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him and freaked out. He didn't
have nothing to do with her after that.

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You know, you have contact with
that boyfriend still. I no,

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I don't, No, I don't, but Trace could tell you and yeah,

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and then Mike, Yeah, I
don't know. So you just yeah,

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asked me some more questions. We
have some more for sure, Okay,

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So here we go. Let's rewind
a little bit. I know you

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moved away. I just found that
out. You moved down to Van Buren

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County, so you weren't in Lockridge
area when the actual Lockridge Monster sighting happened.

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Do you remember anything about that time
period though? When they started having

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some crazy stuff happened on the Fifers
farm. No, what happened was my

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it's dad. It just happened to
be working fields with you know, I

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don't know if it was planting.
Well, if it was, they were

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probably picking corn or beans or whatever
because it was in the fall, because

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the apples were right and and his
when he went and he was doing it

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late at night and the headlights of
the tractor shigne is shown on the one

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by the apple tree, I guess
or something. That's what Mike told me.

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And yeah, so so yeah,
but uh, yeah, it was

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just it was just I didn't know. I don't know if there was a

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family that were Native American that lived
down by there too, but I don't

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know if I should say their names. But they did say that they had

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seen him really, but I just
never. I had just never. And

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gee, now about most of the
families dead, so I don't know.

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I couldn't tell you in what family
are you talking about specifically when you say

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that, are you talking about the
Fifers, Are you talking about the Native

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American family? The Native American family? Gotcha? Do you think there were

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multiple sightings of Bigfoot in that area
that were never talked about out the locker.

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Yeah, oh yeah, yeah yeah. Do you remember any other sightings

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around that same time period, other
things you've heard? No, not really,

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okay, not really when when?
Yeah, yeah, I just yeah,

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I can't. Like I said,
that's been a long time ago.

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It is really, it is really
a long time ago. You said you

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had heard sightings around the des Moines
River. Do you remember any of those?

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I lived on I lived by the
des Moines River for forty years at

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Denton's Port and well actually on the
south side of it port. And yeah,

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a lot of people seen them,
but they don't They wouldn't talk about

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it to your normal people. I
mean, you know, they just wouldn't

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open up about it. Very few
of them, but I know a few

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that's come to me and said,
hey, I've seen this and this and

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this and but I but my family, well, the last last few years,

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probably from ninety to twenty sixteen,
seen them every day, seen them

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every day morning, noon, night. It didn't matter. They were like

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you, neighbors. I definitely want
to get to that part before we leave

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Van Buren County, though, I
want to check on a few things.

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So I've heard many things about Van
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Did you ever hear anything around the
Elden or Dodge area county? Oh yeah,

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oh yeah, I'll tell you,
yeah, I can. My dad

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lived. My dad before he passed, lived between Agency, Iowa and eld

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In Iowa. He was right pretty
close to what they call the Cardinals School

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of the Eldon Community Yet School.
And I don't know, maybe I made

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maybe five miles from there anyway,
and my dad had moved back here.

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He had lived in Missouri for years, and he moved back to Iowa to

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that place, and he got he
bought a patch of land and moved a

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mobile home on it. And I
was a clearbless guy. He wanted my

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son, my oldest son, to
draw wall the one side of each trailer,

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cover up the windows and everything,
and we all thought that was kind

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of odd, you know. But
then then I started hearing from people about

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a half a mile from where dad
lives that they were seeing a couple of

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bigfoot. And my dad he wouldn't
talk about things that like that. He

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did very, very seldom. And
because i'd had back in the eighties,

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I'd had an encounter with a big
a mountain lion and they said, oh,

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no, mountain lions don't exist there. And you know in Iowa.

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And my dad said, well,
when he was fourteen, he ran across

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one when he was driving a truck
to go pick up coal to take the

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furfield. He went to rock Cory
or Dow's Rockery anyway, and he had

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to get there early in the morning, so he was first in lying.

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Otherwise it had take you all day
and they sold cold anyway, and Dad

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said he'd fell asleep and while he
was waiting, and he woke up to

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something digging on the side of the
truck and there was a big mountain lion

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trying to get in his truck.
Oh my goodness. So anyway, anyway,

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he just never talked about things.
And the only thing he told me

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before he got bad this was he
died of cancer. And it was about

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a year after he had my son
dry wall all the north side of or

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the west side of the mobile home
and cover up all the windows. That

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he said, there's some really strange
stuff goes on around here at night.

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And that's all he said. And
I knew exactly what it was. I

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knew, I knew as sure as
but yeah, but there as back in

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the early eighties there was I started
hearing stuff about up and down the Des

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Moines rivers. It's like one night
on a TV show they were talking about

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a female bigfoot that had been seen
up and down the Des Moines River from

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Van Buren County clear to the mouth
of the river anyway down there by Mount

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Rose. Do you remember, sorry, Oh no, no, I can't

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remember. It's been too long ago. But anyway, and then one night

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my husband and a friend that he
he had, My husband brought him out

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and they were drinking and and I
said, and he worked for the Dowd's

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Rock Quarry, And I said,
have you ever seen or heard anything strange

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around there when you were working?
He said, yeah, yeah. He

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said that a lot of there's a
lot of caves down in there from you

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know, they had they where they
can drive their trucks down in there and

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get from that rock and stuff.
And he said that one day he turned

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on the lies down at this cave
and he said it was about a quarter

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mile from it had an opening out
by the river. And he said it

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was about a quarter mile from the
river that he was in this big cavern

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that they had dug out to get
a load of rock, and he said

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there was a little pool of water
there and he said he found He says,

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he looked at me and he says, I never seen anything, but

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I found scat as big as your
arm. And I said, really,

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but that was just back in the
early days. And this guy was pretty

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pretty and he wouldn't talk about it
when he was sober. Sure, sure,

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that's incredible. You don't hear about
stuff like that in Iowa, where

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it's like the large scot You always
hear about that in the Pacific Northwest.

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But the reason I brought up Eldon
and Dowd was because I had an individual

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I talked to you once, and
he told me about how back in the

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nineteen forties there were sightings of something
called the Yehoties and they were just labeled

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as giants or bigfoot. And I
just was that anything that you'd ever heard

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of over the years. No,
But back in the early nineties, I

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got a call from some people that
lived, oh, I don't know,

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not very not very far from Elden. They lived on the south side of

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the river, and they had an
old graveyard on their property and they raised

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horses and cattle and stuff, and
they I can't say their name, but

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they're prominent people. One of the
sons had me and couple my son and

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can't remember if my daughter was there
or not. But anyway, we did

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go researching and the horses. The
horse was dead, its neck had been

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broke, and they kept having a
lot of cattle come up missing. And

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we did find some big foot prints
in this old graveyard. How long were

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they do you think? Oh?
I think they were like about eighteen nineteen

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inches. I figured it was a
female for that size. Okay, from

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what I a female or a juvenile
male. But that's but and that was

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that was Yeah. I so I've
heard I heard different things around, but

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most people don't. Like I said, they've a lot of them now.

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The old timers were just getting so
they kind of open up to you,

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and but then most of them are
dead and gone now. So yeah,

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it's to the point where a lot
of people that were involved in that period

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of time, they not a lot
of them are around anymore. So it's

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a it's an incredible privilege to be
able to talk to you, Connie,

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for sure, I want to thank
you for that again. But anything ever

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happened around Schamex State Forest that you
heard of. Oh dear, oh,

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well, see what where we lived? Okay, we lived about half a

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city block from the Des Moines River
for thirty forty years. And and let's

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see, and on one side of
us, about five miles to the west

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of US was the state Oh what
the heck Lake Sagema and what in the

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oh my, I'm getting old and
forgetful. But anyway, they had they

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had a state park there that was
consisted of about six hundred acres there at

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Tissauqua and and you just go straight
west or east, and then about five

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miles and then we lived there at
Benn'sport. And then about ten miles to

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the east of US was Symic State
Park, and it's like six thousand and

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there was a little and there was
a little creek there that was called Bear

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Creek where they said that there was
a lot of bear back in the early

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fifties. And that's where I got
that name. But anyway, and this

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is the route that the Bigfoot would
travel. Big for Society will be right

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back after these messages. They had
a mile or two before they got to

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the to the one end of the
Bear Creek and then it and then Bear

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Creek went all through our property.
Plus we had old Indian burial grounds on

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our property and our lower eighty acre
field where we planted corn a lot of

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times. Was the last encampment that
black Cock had before he was civilized and

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moved to Iowaville. So yeah,
and so they would travel back and forth,

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and there were times that and they
they liked horses and two and I

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always had horses. And yeah,
anyway, so that's how that sorry,

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how did you know that they liked
horses? Huh? Because I had horses

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that first of all, they would
take and they would braid their manes and

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tails during the night. And I
would have a chain that I ran through

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around the post and through the gate, and it was padlocked and the only

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and it had to be lifted way
up, and it was a heavy chain

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and it had to be lifted way
up in order for and they'd let the

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horses out and uh, yeah,
stuff, But they would do these braids

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and different things and twists to the
horse's tail. The females, the female

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bigfoot, will also take and they
would sometimes. It used to drive me

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crazy because they the females when they
braid their hair. Shapinga used to braid

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her hair all the time, and
she would take tree sap and stick it

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on her braids so it'll stay well. They had do that sometimes to the

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horses manes and tails to make it
stay. Okay, very interesting. That's

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actually Patty had had asked me.
She was like, there's a few things

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you might want to ask Connie about, and Shapinga is actually one of those.

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Do you mind if we talk about
I don't know if there's a way

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to transition into if that's an individual
that you knew during this time where you

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was her for seven and a half
years. We've seen each other every day,

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and where was this set this was
happening. This is out of our

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farm? Was it in Van Buren
County? Yes? Okay, so that

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same area for seven and a half
years you were seeing this female bigfoot.

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Yeah. I had all kinds of
experiences I had, and my grandkids I

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had, We had what was it, one hundred and twenty one hundred and

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nineteen, one hundred and twenty nine
acres of land, and I had a

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grandson with just he is five years
old and he was just owner ear in

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Hell and he was always he took
after his dad and he was always wanting

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to take off. And I told
him, I told him when he was

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five, I said, you stay
up here in the yard because you go

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down to the junk ditch, which
we everybody back then had a junk ditch,

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and then you filled up some place
that was washed out and you'd fill

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it up full of stuff and then
you'd bulldoze it over. And anyway,

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I said to Spencer, I said, you stay away from the junk ditch.

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Don't be taken off. Stay up
in the yard. I said,

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if not, the junk ditch monsterl
each year because I had to scare him,

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because he wasn't scared of really,
So he's staying with me. And

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all of a sudden I look out
and I don't see him, and here

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he comes. He'd been down to
the junk ditch. And I said,

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I said, didn't I tell you
when we got out, I said,

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didn't I tell you that the junk
dicks monster would eat He said no.

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I already talked to him and he
said he wasn't going to eat me.

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Nice. That's great. And what
time period was that? What year do

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you think? Okay, well,
let's see Spencer was born in ninety one,

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so and he was about five years
old, so it's around ninety six,

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Okay, yeah, yeah, Can
you share about the time that shapinga

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saved you from? She said,
well, oh about Well, we had

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okay, on our land was v
shaped, okay, and one side was

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the north side was the Demnes River, and the other side was Bear Creek.

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But we had a little bit of
timberland over there on the other side

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of Bear Creek. But anyway,
and there was a couple of miles from

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our house to the next house,
and there was a creek, it was

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called Bear Creek, and there was
a bridge down there. Well, we

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had meth makers go down there and
make math. And one Sunday evening I

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always carried a four to ten and
one evening neil Man was up watching TV

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and I was I was always outside. I just liked being outside. And

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and I thought I smelt something in
the air. And the creek bridge was

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about a quarter of a mile from
our house. And anyway, so I

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take I walked down to the way. The smell was coming from the creek,

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and and on each side of the
creek, well, on the one

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side there was a real steep hills
where the Native Americans had burial grounds there

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and the other and a lot of
cedar trees. Well, I'm I'm,

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I go walking through the timber and
and I see a car sitting down there

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by the creek, and so I
sneak down there and I get under this

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cedar tree and i'm I'm watching these
three guys and they're making math and and

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it was it was on a Sunday
afternoon, our evening, and it was

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probably it was close to getting dark
whenever. Anyway, and I was laying

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up there on the on the ridge
looking down and watching them, and one

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of them found me. Okay,
Well they took me down down underneath the

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bridge where they was cooking that stuff, and I thought wow, And they

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took my trusty four ten and everything, and they just was and they were

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trying to decide what they was going
to do to me. And it didn't

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sound like it was good whatever it
was, as you know. And anyway,

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and by then they knew I would
if I wooked. I'm a horrible

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whooper. And if I whooped,
they knew what it knew it was me

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and anyway, but I didn't whoop
this time. That I recall, but

392
00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:52.280
I remember they was about done doing
their stuff and they was starting to load

393
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:57.880
stuff up and they had one I
had me one guy next to me,

394
00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:02.440
and I had be kind of tied
to this old air conditioner that somebody had

395
00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:08.800
dumped out. I can smell,
I can smell the bigfoot, or I

396
00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:16.320
get vibrations if like a or I
get these vibrations. What did it a

397
00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:22.840
bear down there in Tennessee? He
called it infrasound that I could feel this

398
00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:30.719
when they're closed. Well, anyway, I started getting these feelings and I

399
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:35.360
went, who well, and that
guy looked at me and he said,

400
00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:39.000
be quiet. So I did.
The next thing I know, Shechipinga was

401
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:46.079
standing next to me, and when
that guy looked up and the other two

402
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:52.719
were walking away from it, they
ran. And when they seen her and

403
00:38:53.679 --> 00:39:00.360
she got me out of the how
they she was able to unhook me from

404
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:02.599
whatever they had me tied up.
Was I can't remember, it's been so

405
00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:08.599
long ago, but scared them and
Shapinga wasn't real big. She was only

406
00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:15.559
about eight eight and a half foot
tall, and she had a shoulder span

407
00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:21.199
of probably four four feet or a
little bit more. Does she have a

408
00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:28.519
similar color pattern or what color was
Shapinka Schapinga was. I never seen one

409
00:39:28.679 --> 00:39:35.519
like her before. She was kind
of a light beige, but on her

410
00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:42.400
stomach and one bube she was like
white and light gray. The hair,

411
00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:46.880
yeah, interesting, some of them. I've seen hair that had like four

412
00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:52.480
inches long, but she hers wasn't
that long. It's maybe two inches.

413
00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:57.920
So similar to what we see in
the Patterson Gimlin film then, is that?

414
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:04.599
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I yeah. In

415
00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:07.719
some of my books I had,
I worked with the guy, an ex

416
00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:16.400
police sketch artist, and he did
several sketches for me that we worked with

417
00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:23.760
with Schappinga and Big Red and Baby
Boy and yeah all that. You have

418
00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:29.960
books you've written, Oh I haven't. I've got a diary that, like

419
00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:34.039
I said, that of things that's
happened, that's probably three or four inches

420
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:39.199
thick. That yeah, and yeah, and it's got it's got like police

421
00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:45.280
sketch type style drawing a big foot
in them. Yeah yeah, yeah,

422
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:50.800
yeah, that I that I I
for my own personal use. I had

423
00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:59.599
a lot more, but right right, oh golly. About about ninety five,

424
00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:07.039
somebody broke in our house and they
took everything of mine that was Bigfoot

425
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:13.920
related. I had electronics and stuff, you know that, I and game

426
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:16.239
cams and stuff. They never took
none of that. They just took all

427
00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:22.000
my my bigfoot stuff, pictures and
stuff that I had. So after that,

428
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:27.360
I didn't do pictures. So you
had Are you talking about the sketches

429
00:41:27.480 --> 00:41:30.519
or did you have actual pictures of
the Bigfoot? I had actual pictures you

430
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:35.400
did. What were these taken with? What kind of devices? Oh?

431
00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:39.920
Well, I had I usual they
had. I don't have a little camera

432
00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:46.639
that I had that I carried in
my pocket all the time. Okay,

433
00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:53.639
and sometimes sometimes you could get if
you caught them unaware, you could get

434
00:41:53.639 --> 00:42:01.320
the picture. If not, they
project this this energy that makes the pictures

435
00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:07.639
all deformed or you know where you
can't see them. But yeah, the

436
00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:13.239
diary. Was it a diary of
like different Bigfoot cases you investigated over the

437
00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:17.400
years or just what you noticed?
No, different experiences that I had,

438
00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:23.400
gotcha and that my family had.
Okay. Have you ever considered making that

439
00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:29.159
public in some way in order for
people other people to learn about what you've

440
00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:35.599
experienced over the years. Well,
I've thought about it, but it takes

441
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:42.880
money, and I'm I'm on a
limited income. And so I don't.

442
00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:49.280
Yeah, I just don't. But
yeah, I've thought about it and if

443
00:42:49.320 --> 00:42:54.360
anything happens to me, my granddaughter
when my oldest granddaughter gets everything of my

444
00:42:54.440 --> 00:43:00.199
big foot stuff. But yeah,
I oh yeah, do you know have

445
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:09.800
you ever heard of m NBRT Minnesota
Minnesota big foot? A? Well,

446
00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:19.639
Abe, when I had I had
a show that I was doing on podcasts,

447
00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:24.320
I started it and and that was
I can't remember what year, it

448
00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:30.599
was, close around two thousand,
I think, anyway, and he or

449
00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:38.559
maybe I was on Campfire Shadows or
something I was on Somebody Want to Vix

450
00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:44.440
show I think, But anyway,
Abe called in and talked to me,

451
00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:50.679
and he wanted to talk to me
later. So and he he had never

452
00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:54.360
seen a bigfoot, but he had
heard him and this and that. Well,

453
00:43:54.400 --> 00:44:00.519
anyway, so I invited him down. And well, I've been friends

454
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:07.800
with Abe since two thousand and he
was with me when he would come down.

455
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:13.760
He would stay a week or two
usually, and we flipped days and

456
00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:19.239
big footed at night. So I
could talk to Abe and he'd be able

457
00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:23.159
to tell me the same how he
experienced the same exact things. Well,

458
00:44:23.800 --> 00:44:32.599
for something as simple as there was
some from wildfires out west, and this

459
00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:39.000
is one night and he got picture. He had videos and stuff, but

460
00:44:39.639 --> 00:44:44.280
like I said, he had some
of it to me and I had to

461
00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:47.400
delete it because people were taking it
up and stuff. And I didn't know

462
00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:52.000
that much about things, and I
just didn't know. I didn't want anything

463
00:44:52.199 --> 00:45:00.000
happening to him because the first time
I met Scott Nelson down in Oklahom,

464
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:01.920
I said, well, they speak, and he said, no, they

465
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:06.760
don't, and I sug, yes, they do. And I didn't like

466
00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:09.719
him because he basically told me I
was a liar, that they don't speak,

467
00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:15.000
and they do speak, and they
can speak any language to anybody at

468
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:21.800
any time. And that's how that
is. They called me Awnie, they

469
00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:27.840
called my son Tony one, they
said my granddaughter. Jess said, holler,

470
00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:35.039
Guessie, Guessie. Yeah. So
so so you're talking about Scott Nelson,

471
00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:40.800
who's been analyzing the fear sounds,
yes, and oh on fare sounds.

472
00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:45.679
The first time I listened to him
was back in two thousand and I

473
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:51.920
had been and you have to I
never knew how to explain they talk.

474
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:58.280
But and this is how I learned
to say, this big for society,

475
00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:17.320
who will be right? Back after
these message. One night I had my

476
00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:23.599
dad was in the process of dying, and he was in Knoxville, and

477
00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:29.960
and I stop and pick up a
friend, an older friend that didn't drive

478
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:32.639
in Fairfield, and brought her down
for a couple of days. Well,

479
00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:38.960
Chappinga. I had been gone with
my dad, and Schappinga was out by

480
00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:45.000
the driveway and my friend, her
name was Connie, also she was She

481
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:49.360
had gotten some of her stuff and
was up on the porch waiting for me

482
00:46:49.679 --> 00:46:53.800
to get something out of the back
of the jeep, and and shippinga.

483
00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:58.719
I wanted to know where I've been
and what I've been doing. And I

484
00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:05.320
told him that told her that my
father was dying. Well anyway, and

485
00:47:05.320 --> 00:47:08.519
and this was this was after this
was midnight, one o'clock by the time

486
00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:14.360
we got home out there to the
farm and anyway, Connie, when I

487
00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:16.360
walk up to her, she says, who was that? And I said,

488
00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:23.559
oh, that that's my friendly neighborhood
neighbor. You know, that's my

489
00:47:23.639 --> 00:47:29.559
neighbor. And she said, well, do they have a cleft palette?

490
00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:35.800
Because they talked just like my cousin
had had a cleff Pellette talk. And

491
00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:38.800
this is how this is how they
talk. But anyway, but I was

492
00:47:38.920 --> 00:47:46.760
listening back in two thousand these theory
sounds, and I can't remember but on

493
00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:53.079
what watch part of it was,
but I've got I've got the CD here

494
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:59.320
that i'd have to listen to it. But anyway, they they're they're saying

495
00:47:59.480 --> 00:48:06.719
something to the Bigfoot, and the
Bigfoot replied, good will you want?

496
00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:15.000
He goes good will you want?
And that's what I have told everybody when

497
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:21.719
they when they meet new ones or
are dealing with them, you ask them

498
00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:28.480
first, good will you want?
And they understand that. But it was

499
00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:36.039
about two thousand that that I didn't
know you could. Well, yeah,

500
00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:43.559
it was when I've really started getting
to communicate with them real good. It

501
00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:47.440
was after Janet Carter came up.
Did you know Janet Carter? Hold on?

502
00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:53.400
So you Janet Janet Carter visited your
property in Van Buren County. Oh

503
00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:59.480
yeah, you come up and stay. I've not had yeah, no,

504
00:48:59.719 --> 00:49:02.719
but that's incredible. Anyway, Well, I had talked to Mary Green.

505
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:09.519
Mary Green and Janet had wrote a
book, and I was telling I had

506
00:49:10.159 --> 00:49:15.519
one night like when I first got
a computer, and I was talking to

507
00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:21.800
Mary Green and I told her that
I was telling her that the little ones

508
00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:28.800
would pull my doors off the hinges
and come in the house and track mud

509
00:49:28.920 --> 00:49:35.199
and crap in and get in my
deep freeze. And she said they had

510
00:49:35.239 --> 00:49:40.440
that a lot down there in Tennessee. And then and then Mary introduced me

511
00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:45.239
to Oh and this is when I
was this is how long ago it's been.

512
00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:52.639
I was like forty eight, and
I had this one. Don't laugh

513
00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:58.280
at me. He was hustling me. And I had talked to Bear.

514
00:49:58.880 --> 00:50:02.559
One is Bear's really name? Oh
gee, I can't think of it right

515
00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:07.960
now, But anyway, from Downtennessee. He was one of the big Foot

516
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:13.800
outlaws. Yep, I'm aware,
I know exactly. Okay, Okay,

517
00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:17.280
anyway, I had talked to Bear, and Bear had told me that they

518
00:50:17.360 --> 00:50:28.079
seemed to be larry of the Red
big Foot, and big Red is red

519
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:32.760
anyway, But anyway, this one
night, my daughter was forever scared,

520
00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:37.599
trying to scare me and stuff.
And my kids were like me, They

521
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:43.079
run around at night, you know. And one night, on a full

522
00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:50.079
noon, I seen something kind of
white in it. And my yard had

523
00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:55.760
like one hundred and thirty trees in
it. Okay. And then around when

524
00:50:55.760 --> 00:51:01.000
I lived at the farm and then
around on two sides. It was a

525
00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:07.159
heavy timber or well most people don't
know what timber is. I found that

526
00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:15.079
out woods or forced heavy force,
but anyway, and I thought it was

527
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:19.239
her trying to sneak it. I
was sitting out on the back deck talking

528
00:51:19.239 --> 00:51:23.079
to my friend Connie on the phone, and it was midnight, one o'clock

529
00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:30.480
and everybody was in bed, and
I seen that white hair and it was

530
00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:34.639
kind of tall, and my daughter
is six foot tall anyway, and I

531
00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:37.760
thought it was her getting ready to
scare me, so I just kind of

532
00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:42.480
ignored it. Well, the next
thing I know, there was this big

533
00:51:42.559 --> 00:51:49.440
foot and my back deck was eight
nine feet off. The house was built

534
00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:52.519
on a hill and the deck went
out, so it was like eight or

535
00:51:52.599 --> 00:52:00.039
nine feet off the ground. And
I'm setting out there at the table and

536
00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:04.519
about four foot from me, all
of a sudden, this bigfoot just pops

537
00:52:04.639 --> 00:52:08.679
up. Well anyway, he's standing
there and he's looking at me, and

538
00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:15.119
I'm talking on the phone and I
just pretend like I don't see and he's

539
00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:20.639
four foot away from me, and
the moonlight was shining through some of the

540
00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:25.760
trees, you know, on him. That's when I discovered that they have

541
00:52:27.559 --> 00:52:32.800
eyelids, like two eyelids, one
that goes from the top to the bottom

542
00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:37.920
and then one that goes from side
to side anyway, and I would glance

543
00:52:38.000 --> 00:52:42.559
at him, and then I just
kept talking to Connie and Sonny. I

544
00:52:42.559 --> 00:52:45.840
said, calm, I got a
big foot here, and I'm going to

545
00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:51.960
have to let you go. And
she says, Paul, I think you

546
00:52:52.159 --> 00:52:57.760
need this is before she had heard
the one talk and she says, I

547
00:52:57.800 --> 00:53:01.840
think you need to get some one
kind of nerve medicine. Because I never

548
00:53:01.920 --> 00:53:07.239
talked to her about it. I
just and I said, okay, I

549
00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:10.840
said, I'll talk to you later
about it. Well, anyway, so

550
00:53:10.920 --> 00:53:15.760
I hung up, and by then
he is he went over to the other

551
00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:24.599
side of the deck and his skin
he had the he he had the prettiest.

552
00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:30.159
His hair was silver. It was
silver, and it was more than

553
00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:35.000
four inches long. He's the only
one that I've seen that had hair that

554
00:53:35.079 --> 00:53:37.320
long. He looked like a hippie. And I had a picture of it,

555
00:53:37.440 --> 00:53:45.800
and somebody on the Facebook had got
the picture. Well anyway, and

556
00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:52.000
what it was. I was friends
with Dmitri and Igor in Russia, and

557
00:53:52.199 --> 00:53:59.480
Dmitri after a few years we figured
out when this one with the silver hair,

558
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:04.840
well, he told me his name, just calling the ancient one.

559
00:54:05.639 --> 00:54:13.400
So I did, and I said
anyway and anyway. So so next or

560
00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:16.360
the next day or two, I
was. It was late at night,

561
00:54:16.400 --> 00:54:20.840
and I was sitting on the porch, and he come up and sat down

562
00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:25.960
beside me. And sometimes he had
talked to me verbally, other times he

563
00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:32.079
had talked to me telepathically, and
he said bye by our way, accounting

564
00:54:32.840 --> 00:54:38.719
that he was seventy two years old, and basically, but then anyway,

565
00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:45.079
Dimitri and I after a couple of
years figured out that in the summertime here

566
00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:51.519
he'd be at my place and at
the other time he would be in Russia.

567
00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:55.159
Oh so you think that the same
the same bigfoot was going, oh

568
00:54:55.320 --> 00:55:00.599
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And because I had taken a picture

569
00:55:01.519 --> 00:55:07.719
and I showed it to Dmitri,
and Dmitri was an artist, and he

570
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:12.400
drew the picture and a picture that
looked just like it that he had drawn

571
00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:17.719
like ten years before, and I
thought that was kind of neat. But

572
00:55:19.079 --> 00:55:24.199
since then Dmitri's passed, they invited
me and I laughed, because I'm old

573
00:55:24.280 --> 00:55:30.440
fat I'm an old fat woman,
you know. And one night I get

574
00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:37.079
a call or attacked from Dmitri saying, do you want to come over here

575
00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:42.440
and do a bigfoot expedition with us? And I laughed because I'm a hillbilly.

576
00:55:42.920 --> 00:55:46.440
I just you know, and I
thought, I can't you know,

577
00:55:47.639 --> 00:55:52.840
old fat they I wouldn't last ten
ten minutes and some of those hills over

578
00:55:52.880 --> 00:55:58.320
and there. But yeah, he
is the property in Van Buren County,

579
00:55:58.360 --> 00:56:04.440
still in the family farm. Nope, nope, nope. And since then,

580
00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:10.159
well, part of the reason that
I left was I started having encounters

581
00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:16.719
with I. I was what they
call the bigfoot, called me was the

582
00:56:16.840 --> 00:56:24.599
babysitter. Okay. Every every day
around four o'clock, the adults would go

583
00:56:24.760 --> 00:56:32.360
off to go hunting, okay,
and I would babysit and if anybody they

584
00:56:32.400 --> 00:56:37.360
had an area where they left the
young ones, usually with an adolescent female,

585
00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:44.800
sometimes an older female. But if
but if anybody come around, I

586
00:56:44.840 --> 00:56:49.440
would whoop and some and they would
come back. Part two of my Conversation

587
00:56:49.559 --> 00:56:53.760
with Connie the Skinwalker Ranch of Iowa. Part two will be released soon on

588
00:56:53.840 --> 00:56:58.079
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589
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590
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591
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592
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Really, it's all about sharing the

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show wherever you can. If you've
had a bigfoot encounter related to the following,

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or know someone who has, please
reach out to me at Bigfoot Society

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at gmail dot com or pass on
my email. Here's the list. All

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right, I'm going to use this
space this week to announce that I'll be

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at the Sasquatch Summerfest and Oakridge organ
as an atender. I won't be presenting

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or anything, but I'll be hanging
out trying to interview people that have had

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bigfoot encounters. If you're from the
oak Ridge, Oregon area or surrounding and

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you've had a Bigfoot experience, please
contact me directly Bigfoot Society at gmail dot

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com. Also, Priscilla was nice
enough that if you get your tickets through

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Sasquatch Summerfest dot com in use code
Bigfoot Society, you can get fifty percent

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off the cost of your tickets,
which is a big amount. So code

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Bigfoot Society to get fifty percent off
your tickets Sasquatch Summerfest dot Com and helps

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out the podcast as well. A
special thank you to all the Bigfoot Society

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Patreon and YouTube channel members. It's
your support that helps keep the show going

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and I extremely appreciate it. Here
at big for Society, we're headed to

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the moon and here's a current update
about going full time, So here we

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go. As of five twenty two, you're now at two hundred and two

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patrons out of eight hundred and twenty
four needed. That's twenty four point five

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to one percent, almost a quarter
of the way there, guys, brings

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us down to six hundred and twenty
two laughed to join the patroon, So

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a huge thank you to Barbara Gregory, Dana Craig, Jeff Steve, rickyde

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Norm Meghan, Dan, Daddy Chatty, Joe Eber, Eike Jewels, Josh,

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Ryan Todd, Nathan Gabe, Bill
Lucky, Meghan William, Bobby Joe

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and Inger for joining recently. If
you want to join in the fun,

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you can join over at patreon dot
com. Forward slash the big Foot Society.

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I'll see you there and again,
thanks for listening. Her and I

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can get out here, we can
tell our stories. Maybe there's somebody else

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out there listening it's too afraid to
tell their story. Maybe this will give

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them the courage to come out.
And I feel too bad about it.

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Who cares what anybody's thinks. I
know what I saw, I know what's

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out there. That's all I care
about. Please let people know, Please

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let them know. If you ever
see one of these things, you need

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you tell, because if you don't, then shame on you, you know,

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shame on you. Wait there's more. Monster Fest two is coming up

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soon and Beautiful can't Ohio and I
will be there doing a live podcast.

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If you've ever wanted to meet Bigfoot
Society in person, this is the year

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to do it. My special guest
in the live podcast episode will be Justin

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from Cryptids of the Corn. You
will not want to miss this live episode

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and then you can hang out with
me at Monsterfest. You can go to

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Small Town Monsters dot com to get
your tickets. Pre sale tickets are twenty

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dollars fifty cents and tickets at the
door will be twenty five dollars. But

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kids twelve and under are free.
How many places can you go to where

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at kids twelve and under are free? Not many. New this year are

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the live workshops. I'm excited about
this, extremely excited. How to cast

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a footprint, how to collect DNA
in the woods, ghosts hunting tools one

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oh one, how to do research. Also, there's going to be food

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trucks outside this year and new guests, new speakers, people you won't I

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mean, the coolest thing about last
year is that I got to meet people

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I was not expecting to be there, people like less Odell, John Hickinbottom,

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really cool, big people that I
never would have thought that I would

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have met before. And Seth Breedlove
made it happen by making this incredible place

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for the community to get together.
Monsterfest in Knohio June twenty eighth through twenty

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ninth. Guys, do not miss
this year. If you missed last year,

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don't miss this year. Head on
over right now to Smalltown Monsters dot

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com. I hope to see you
there