Bigfoot Sighting Updates from Marshall County, Tennessee and MORE! / CALL-IN SHOW

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Society, And now let's get on with

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the show. All right, let's
see who we've got Yello. Hey,

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this is Jeremiah. Hey Jeremie.
Ken, how are you doing that?

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Hey? Ken? How's it going? All right? Let's let's hold on

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a minute here, Ken, we
gotta peak, Okay, Laura can hear

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you? All right? Well,
Kevin, thanks for calling in. It's

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good to talk to you again.
It's been a while since we last talked

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about what's going on up there in
Montana, but is there any updates that

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you can let us know of what's
going on there. Ken. Yes,

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we just come out of the swan. We're in there eleven days this spring,

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Christopher's raining and everything. I said
Jeremiah. Thermal images of video that

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was captured one hundred yards from it
went to an analyst. They don't know

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what it is. It's not a
bear. The heat signature is too great

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to be a heat signature from a
tree. They're estimate moreever's standing there's ten

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ten eleven foot tall and in the
video they sawed down it appears to be

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peaking good. The two guys by
the fire, the one all come about

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is he swung I have a handheld
throne imaging in it and he just swung

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it around and picked it up and
started recording both our video and photograph.

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We don't know what it is.
All we know is is a large creature

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standing there. Well up there.
We did recover more scap and I don't

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like a hairball. Now. Scat
and the hairball have been sent out to

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the four A DNA lab I've used
before. I probably won't hear anything about

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them for a month, maybe to
three months. They're really busy right now

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now. The night before we left
at about three o'clock in the morning,

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there was one real loud vocalization about
sixty yards from camp. I had made

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the mistake, and I pulled all
the trail cans because all it had been

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doing was rain and real heavy,
big mistake on my part. The night

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before he left, for the first
time ever, something was thrown at the

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motorhome that has never happened before in
the four years we've been going up there.

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So what it was, I don't
know. Nobody was awake, nobody

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was up, so something to me
was warning to leave, just like what

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happened over to Ido that we had
talked about on your one year podcast.

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I did tear the camp down and
left, and I will be returning pardon

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about a week two weeks back to
the same area. I'm going to do

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a tenth cap in there for about
four days and I'm going to see what

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happens. I'll be putting off the
trail camps and everything. I've got to

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chest to talk to more of the
locals about their sightings a bigfoots on their

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property driving the log and roads for
firewood. One approached us. He wouldn't

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tell me exactly where or who because
it was an old man, it's kind

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of being confidentiality on that one,
which I fully understand. This area is

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very very active. I received a
call three days ago they've seen bigfoot walk

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along the highway and in the area
that we do our base camp during the

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swan. So that's about it right
now. Jeremi has just been planning to

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go and then I'm headed over eastern
Montana to Wolf Creek and that's south of

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Great Falls in Great Fault and Helena. There's some first reports over there,

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so I'm going to be meeting two
of my members stick over with me.

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I'll be going into Rogers Fast down
there to set up a base camp.

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So that's pretty much the update right
now. I will let you know,

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Jeremiah when I get those libraries.
Also, that's scat and that popped up

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hairball, I guess you want to
call it. Yeah, the hairball did

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not look like any think a cat
or a dog would have coughed up the

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hair well, yeah, it's it's
totally different. Yes, And you know

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I've got it frozen that alongside the
other one. Mm hm, oh yeah,

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I know. Yeah. It's been
a while since we talked, but

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I'm remembering now. Oh man,
this is. Oh, it's such,

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It's so good to talk to you
again. Ken, Remind me how long

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you've been researching that area for again? Oh? Four years? Four years?

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That's right. Yeah, And guys, just to make sure everyone on

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the same page. This as Ken
Medzker. He is with the Montana and

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Idaho Bigfoot Research Group on Facebook.
And I've talked to Ken about two times

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on big for Society. This was
about a year or so ago. So

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yeah, you can go ahead and
check out those episodes if you'd like to

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hear more about what Ken has been
up to in the past. But did

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you say you were going to be
tent camping, Ken? Yeah, I

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want to do dent camp this time. Oh man, have you ever done

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that before in that area? No? My kids say I'm being dumb about

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doing it, but I feel in
a way I have to make amends.

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So I don't want to take the
motor home. And there's a particular spot

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I want to put the Ken out. Now, the tent will have looking

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away solar powered motion detectors. Now
there's three lights or seventy two LEDs and

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those three lights. Whatever, anything
that triggers that, I will get that

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on video or photos. In color. Plus I'll have my trail camp to

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that little campfire. I'm gonna try
it. I don't mind going alone as

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I kind of enjoy it. I
don't have to get aggravated by people that

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come. But this would be the
first time I'm actually going to go in

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with the camp wow and to see
what happens. Can you got you gotta

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tell me what happens after you,
because man, four days tent camping in

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this area is going to get wild. I absolutely know it's going to get

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wild. Dude. I hope you're
ready. Oh I'm ready. Don't worry.

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I don't have to change of clothes
with me, if you know what

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I mean. Oh yeah, No, I hear you. I hear you.

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Oh man, dude, I'm so
uh. I'm glad that you were

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able to call in give us a
little update. It sounds like things are

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getting wild in the Swan Mountain area. It is. It's just it's probably

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one of the most active aeries right
now in western Montana. But the reports

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on getting and we are getting reports
out of the xpoll and that's up out

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the Yack River. Okay, so
that may be an area and they head

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into you later it's the motor home
and that to do a base camp.

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It's just trying to decide where to
go. And then probably now it's the

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most current reports, that's where I
want to go. Absolutely and not so.

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But yeah, we've been into the
swan now four years, at least

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twice a year. Yep. Yeah, guys, you need to make sure

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if you're interested in what Ken has
been sharing, make sure you go over

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to the Montana and Idaho Bigfoot Research
group on Facebook and make sure you join

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that if you're interested. There's some
really cool stuff that's shared in that group.

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Yeah. Yeah, and make sure
you answer the questions that you join.

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My moderators and that are really particular
about that kind of stuff, which

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has really been good. Also on
the group side is the audio I just

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stopped then recording. We put the
link on. I sent you Jeremi that

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link. Okay to that audio.
It's an hour long. Oh wow,

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basically me talking how I started,
why I started the group, my encounters,

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how I do my field research and
all that. That's great. Yeah,

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definitely definitely check that out. Hmmm. Yeah, good stuff. Ken.

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Please stay in touch with what's what's
coming up. I will and yeah,

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yeah, I will, Jeremiah,
you never know the audible. We

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need to talk absolutely. Hey,
I'm ready. I'm ready to go.

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You just let me know. So. Yeah, well doing, I'll pay

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you. It was nice meeting you
all. I'm gonna get off. I

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gotta take some medications. Yeaes sir, you guys take care of god blet.

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Everybody'd be safe. Thanks for calling. Ken, You're bad all right,

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Ken Metzger great guy, big for
society. Will be right back after

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these messages. Oh my goodness,
we have people calling in. Hello.

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Hey, this is Jeremiah. What's
going on, man, Joe? It

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is Joe. What's up? Have
you been buddy, dude? I've been

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doing good. Thank you for calling
in, Joe. Guys, this is

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Joe Purdue from Wild and Weird at
West Virginia. Correct. Yes, among

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other things. That's true. Man. You guys are starting to do all

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sorts of stuff now. I'm excited
to see what's coming up next. Yeah,

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we've uh, we've got a lot
going on in the bag there.

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You know, there's a lot of
stuff that I can't quite talk about.

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But we do have a show coming
up if anybody's interested in it. From

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Small Town Monsters called Paranormal Horizons,
and we're gonna be covering topics from bigfoot

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to UFOs, aliens, contact,
hauntings, you name it, if it's

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if it's strange and unusual, we're
gonna take a look. I'm excited.

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I'm excited. Uh. I think
I'm gonna be seeing you next weekend over

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at Monsterfest. Right, yeah,
man, we can't wait. I'm excited

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to see you and and all these
other folks that we normally only get a

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chance to see like once a year
at some random off show. And uh,

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but it's really cool. We're gonna
be at Monsterfest and can't Ohio next

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week You'll be there, will be
there. Anybody who's cool is going to

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be there. So you know,
you definitely, if you have the ability

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to get out to Canton, Ohio, I want to do that next weekend.

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Tickets are still available over at small
Town Monsters dot com. You'd almost

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think like, I'm a professional sales
pitch guy. You're really good, aren't

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you guys doing a You're doing something
at monster Fest too, right? Yeah,

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we're doing a workshop because we do
all kinds of workshops like that.

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We host and we have folks come
out to those and we teach you basically

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how to do the thing, whether
it's bigfoot research, paranormal research, looking

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into the UFO phenomena, and essentially
it's like a whole day intensive when we

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do those. And this time,
you know, we're going to be doing

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one of these kind of like in
a reduced fashion. You get to have

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us for an hour and then come
hang out with us and talk to us

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the rest of the day and pick
our brains. But we're gonna be doing

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an equipment demonstration to kind of show
folks the kind of equipment we take out

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into the field, what it's used
for, why it works, what it

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does, and what we're using it
for. Nice dude, I'm excited for

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that. There's some great workshops that
are going to be at Monsterfest. I'm

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glad they're doing starting to do that. I'm going to be doing a live

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podcast there. I'll have Justin from
Cryptids of the Corn as my guest for

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that. It'll be a good time. It'll be great. So I know

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you've got the show coming up,
and there's obviously you've got stuff that's going

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to be in the show, But
can you give us any updates maybe about

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what what you guys have been up
to Boise. Yeah, you know,

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there's there's so much big filt wise
that you can't really cram it all into

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a show like that. That's it's
encompassing everything. So you get to do

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a couple of episodes here in here, and you you cherry pick some of

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your best data and then you go
into those areas and hope for the best.

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But man, Wineberry. If anybody
who's familiar with Wild Weird Radio and

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the Wild Muard West Virginia and what
we do, then you've seen our videos

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that started back in twenty twenty where
we were going into this location that's in

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Wyoming County, West Virginia, and
we've code named it Wineberry because you know,

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it's you're not going to find wineberry
on them, so it's kind of

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like like our code name for this
this area. And we actually have a

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resident who is a member of our
research team who lives there now and it's

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it's her family's property. It's been
in her family since the seventeen hundreds.

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We yeah, we've there's grave up
there in a family gravesite that is absolutely

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remarkable because they're they're hand carved,
like you can tell her hand etched and

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not with like stone carving tools,
which is what they had on hand.

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And that area is always giving up
new data and it started with a bigfoot

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report where we went out we found
track casts. There's now over the last

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few years, there's been nearly a
dozen tracks that have been cast, and

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we're well over fifty that have been
photographically documented and measured and whatnot. So

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it's it's a really really active area. And some of the more recent stuff

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that we've gotten out of there from
Beth was some audio recordings. She went

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out and there's a there's an old
house that's on the property. And when

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I say old house, it was
the one room kind of we would consider

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it now like a shed, it
wouldn't be, but it was an old

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house. It was a one room
house back in the day. And she

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it's silly in fairly decent conditions.
So she'll go in there sometimes and take

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a sleeping bag, and we've got
her some decent equipment to run, and

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she'll go out there and she'll set
in i like, for the majority of

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the night in the house and just
record audio and use use whatever kind of

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gear she's got with her at the
time, and she's she's brought back some

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really interesting audio samples. You'll hear
some of them in the show. But

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there's I mean, there's so many, like you know, I don't have

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a problem talking about those. One
of them, you know, one of

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them. It's remarkable and how close
it sounds to the samurai chatter from ronal

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Ahead and oh yeah, and it's
uh, you know, Ron and I

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had also heard that Ron is is
my partner at Wild and Weird West Virginia

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and West Virginia House Rangers Collective and
Wild Weird Radio and all that good stuff.

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Oh and sorry, let's let's clarify. When he says Ron is his

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partner, he doesn't mean Ron moorehead
is is no no, no, yeah,

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two runs. But there their their
brains work about this thame pretty much.

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Yeah. So we, uh me
and Ron Lamham were out at our

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farm, uh my wife and I's
farm, and we heard this same chatter

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and we recorded it. We we
actually got recorded seth actually released some of

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it in the Mountain State Monsters Sasquatch
on Earth episode, so you can go

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back and hear some of that.
But there's a clearly voices down in the

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ravine and there's there's no people there. This is it's uh un acres of

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family owned property and cattle are the
only thing that's there. And then as

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far as people go, the next
closest people is the opposite direction, the

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direction that we're facing. When we
recorded, the audio goes on for I

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think three or four miles before you
come to the next house, and so

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it's we got some really good audio
there and it sounded very similar to what

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what Beth had gotten again, really
similar to what Ron mooreheaded recorded back with

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the sears Hounds. So we've been
really excited about that, and we're looking

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into installing some long duration recorders out
there. Wow, I've got I've got

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some PVC out in the garage.
I've got basically, I've just got to

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get time at this point because we're
still filming some episodes for Paranormal Horizon and

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I've just got to get the time
to get in the garage to fabricate the

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these basically weatherproof tubes to store the
recorder and uh and we're gonna start hanging

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those out there in a few places. I'm going to uh, I'm gonna

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I'm not gonna paint them Camo I've
seen some people that do a cameo paint

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on them, but uh, I've
got some material that I can sculpt,

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and I'm gonna actually make them look
like tree bark and broken off limbs and

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paint them up so that way they
look more natural and kind of blend into

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the environment, and we'll hopefully make
them a little bit harder to detect.

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And we're gonna we're gonna put those
out. We're gonna put one in the

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tree near the house that Deth's got
this audio from, and then we're gonna

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put another one up on the ridge
for sure, and I'd like to put

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a third somewhere, but I just
don't know where the best spot would be

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there. One of the more recent
track casts that she got out of there

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was a large there's slide in Okay, And I want to kind of clarify

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what I mean by that. You
know, in Bigfoot tracks, these alleged

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big Foot tracks, there's this slide
like you know you're stepping in when you

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get a when you leave a really
nice impression, it's normally in soft strata.

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It's not going to be in the
gravel. You know. Sometimes you'll

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get some good ones that are in
a gravel road that normally it's going to

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be like on a mud puddle or
on the edge of the mud puddle where

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it's kind of silty clay material,
and you'll get a little bit of a

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slide in the step, and that
extends some of these footprints a bit.

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So you know, you're looking at
footprints that measure from hill to toe around

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eighteen to twenty inches. But if
you read the footprint close enough and you

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look at it, you'll see where
the toes might look a little extended and

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long because they've slid farther out into
the mud, and the heel you actually

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see almost like a second heel impression
if you look really really close in a

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really clean one, if you're lucky
enough to get a really nice heel impression,

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you'll see like almost like a silhouetted
heel. And that's normally where the

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hill actually came to a stop.
And that's so we'll measure from there,

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so that most of those footprints that
were getting that are in the eighteen to

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twenty inch range. They're realistically,
they're realistically the foot is probably around you

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know, sixteen to eighteen inches physically, you know, I don't think that

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based off the slot anyway. And
one of the tracks actually had a small

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track in it, so it was
about a six and a half inch long

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track that was four inches is why, man, and it was right in

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the middle of this track. And
so that indicates to me that if these

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things are out there, because I, like I don't like to speak in

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terms that are you know, definitive, there's possibilities that this this you know,

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we're all just crazy, like I
just doubt know it. Yeah,

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yeah, like I have that like
you, but you know what I mean,

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right, Like I've had experiences actually
in two thousand and one. Uh,

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we talked about this on your show
Forever Ago. I had a sighting

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in two thousand and one, and
I recently had a sighting. I can

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tell you about that because I haven't
that's something new. I had a sighting

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back in October of this past year, and it's it's I can give you.

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I can give you a brief front
down of it here. But uh,

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anyway, you know, the these
possible tracks, if this is really

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out there and what we think is
then this shows a large adult subject with

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a young subject, you know,
a baby so to speak, or at

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least a toddler, and that's extremely
interesting and to see that we're getting that

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out of Lindberry because for years we
were getting the same single creature for years

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out of Lindberry. The tracks were
all relatively the same size, but there

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was one one key physical marker that
was a dead giveaway, and it was

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the big toe. It's big toes, really peculiar shape, and the big

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toe it's it's kind of like a
signature for what this thing's leaving behind.

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And so we're under the impression.
And Cliff Berrickman's looked at these and Tom

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Shay has looked at these, and
they agree that we're we've been collect data

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on a single specimen, but now
this shows that there's another and that's exciting

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that that is very exciting. Yeah, m so, and it well,

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it actually shows that there's more than
just another like it takes two to tango,

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so to speak. Potentially could have
a family unit there then, yeah,

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yeah, exactly, you know,
And so that's really exciting and we're

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monitoring that. Beth recently, i
think, I want to say recently,

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I'm talking two weeks ago, she
found a eight inch track which would fit

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the growth pattern because the the other
one was found in the mid fall,

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you know, it's like around the
October time frame of last year, because

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she had just got that one pulled
out of the dirt, no sooner than

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she came down to Kryptocon and brought
up with her, so that way we

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could see it, and we got
a bunch of other people to look at

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it too, and it was really
awesome. So so as far as like

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the new stuff that I can actually
talk about, that's that's kind of it.

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But I did have a sighting of
something back in October. I'm a

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classically trained chef and I was working
for a friend of mine's restaurant doing an

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outdoor wedding catering and this this joint
was out in the middle of nowhere.

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It's an old homestead here in West
Virginia, and it's it's actually near the

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Ohio River and it's I think as
the crow flies is probably about you know,

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eight miles from the river. But
there's nothing out there. This is

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there's a couple stray houses, but
it's mostly just old farmland. It's not

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been taken care of farmland, so
you've got you know, third generation trees

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growing in so it's what we call
like a tertiary forest. So they're all

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trees that are like in the light. The oldest tree there's easily forty years

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old. So you're dealing with smaller, thick, really dense brush and trees

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that are about, you know,
the width of your thigh, maybe a

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little bit bigger for the most part, all the way through this land.

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And wedding's over, and I've got
me and one of the other employees in

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the truck with me. We've got
everything loaded up. The party is still

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going on. We've left the food
out because it was all on disposable stuff,

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so that way they can clean up
and leave because they were planning on

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partying well unto the you know,
next morning. And we were done with

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dinner right around dusk, and we've
got everything packed up and we were rolling

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out, so I still had a
little bit of ambient light, but my

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headlights were on and we're leaving,
leaving the party. We drive out and

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it's it's me and the southern employee
and we're going out this dirt road and

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I see it in the silhouette of
this hand I'm like, oh, man,

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that's a there must have been an
old house that was sitting there because

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it kind of looked like an old
you know, topiary basically that had died.

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It was that kind of shape,
and it was around like roughly six

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and a half seven feet tall.
And I was like, oh, yeah,

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there must have been a trailer or
something that was sitting here and they've

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pulled it off. And Houser saw
growing up and my headlights hit it.

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Well, it had been raining for
a little little while as we were tearing

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everything down, and this thing was
standing there with its back to me at

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an angle, and it had long, kind of blondish hair, and it

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was yeah, and it I could
I very clearly saw its left hand,

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and it looked it looked a little
different than the ones that I'd seen in

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two thousand and one in the sense
that this one had a lighter skin color.

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It was more like a a tan
ruddy brown rather than like a battleship

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gray. Yeah right, you hear, yeah, And and the hair was

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a lot lighter, you know,
the ones I'd seen forever ago. They

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they were they ranged from jet black
with the little one, to like an

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auburny dark brown to just sow just
normal dark brown. This one was much

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lighter colored, and uh, it
was a little bit slimmer build and and

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I was much closer to this one
because the truck came within thirty five feet.

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Wow. And you know, I've
got employee with me. They're on

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the clock, and I couldn't just
stop and chase this thing down because I

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wanted to. But anyway, I
stopped the truck and dead with the headlights

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on it. The employee that's with
me seized the thing as well. So

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there's two witnesses in this event.
And she's like, what is that?

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Oh my god, what is that? You know? And I open up

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the door and I get out of
the truck and I'm standing there on the

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road, and everything in my brain
is telling me like, it's research time,

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buddy. If we're going to spend
the rest of the night out here

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in the woods, and we're gonna
collect as much beat as we can.

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And the employee, the employer side
of me, was like, you have

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an employee in the truck that needs
to get off the clock because until you

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get back to the shop and clean
there, they're getting paid eighteen dollars an

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hour. Yes, oh that's terrible. Yeah yeah. Yeah. So I'm

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sitting here and I'm like, oh
god, oh, and I was so

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conflicted and my stomach just dropped and
uh and I'm honestly, I'm I'm glad

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that I didn't go with what I
actually wanted to do, because, come

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to find out, that part of
the property was not owned by the family

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that was having the wedding at that
farm. It was the neighbor next to

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them. And if that land nobody
lives on it, it's a hunting lease

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right there. So if uh,
and this was in October, so you

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know, there's people out and and
there could have been somebody out in that

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area and see me running in and
here I am would be a trespasser at

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that and and i'd have got smoke
showed right there. So so you know,

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because I did call and and we
set up some time to go and

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investigate the area and the owner of
that land when when I called and talked

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to them, they weren't surprised at
all, really like, oh yeah,

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it wasn't like when you know,
when I told him what we saw and

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I said, I'm actually an investigator
and I'd like to come out and take

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a look at some point, and
she was just like, well, I'm

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not comfortable with you going out there
until it's not hunting season. She's like,

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if you could wait until you know
the turn of the year or into

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next summer, you can come out
there. Just call me and let me

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know, and I'll let everybody know
you're going to be there and what you're

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going to be doing. I've given
you the green light. But she said,

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right now, there's people on the
hunting lease that can come out there

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at any time and hunt. And
she's like, I just wouldn't want you

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to get hurt. I wouldn't want
something happened and somebody seeing you and shooting

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at you. And I was like, well, I agree, that's the

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last thing I would want to So
we we made arrangements to UH and got

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clearance to come out there, and
and we're excited to get out and take

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a look at that spot because you
know, obviously now it's a cold case.

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I'm not going to collect data from
my sighting at this point. But

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we we've been doing this long enough, we know what to look for,

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we know where it looks the best
to look for things, and and UH,

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you know we're gonna we're gonna give
it the good old college try and

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get back out there. Well,
I've been on the property where the wedding

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was at since then, but we're
really you got to let me know what

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happens for sure. Oh yeah,
absolutely absolutely. I'll give you an update

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as soon as we find out.
And uh so we're excited about that one.

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And uh but yeah, like the
only thing I can think, man,

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You know, we had the food
outside and it was roast sirling and

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I had tons of different sides,
and all of the sides had aromatic herbs

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on them, So you had all
of this fragrance in the air that was

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just calling stuff in. And then
you had a DJ and a dance floor

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and music all that craziness going on
out here, and you've got lasers and

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lights and all this stuff going everywhere, Joe, So now you know what

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you need to do to get these
guys to come in every time. I

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know, Man, I'm just gonna
go out in the forest and have a

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rave. Oh man, you're actually
going to get to see that eventually,

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by the way, Oh really,
Oh yeah, yeah, we're at our

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next Bigfoot workshop. We were actually
gonna we're actually gonna do that. Ron

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and I used to both be in
bands. We weren't in the same band,

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but we have enough equipment to cobble
stuff together and we actually have some

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DJ lights and stuff like that,
and we're going to do that at the

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workshop, just for fun at the
end and see what happens, you know,

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if we're getting skunked. Otherwise we're
just we're going to go and we'll

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turn on the we'll start up the
fire, cook some food, and go

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on the music. Have some fun
for we get Joe, you've had some

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wild stuff going on. I can't
wait to see you next weekend. But

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dude, I just oh yeah,
man, thank you so much for calling

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in giving us an update and good
times. Dude. Absolutely, man,

404
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:25.199
thanks for having me on and give
me a shout to bring me on.

405
00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:29.920
It's always fun getting to talk to
you and hang out with your folks here.

406
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:34.000
I hope everybody's enjoyed this, and
if you if you like what you're

407
00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:37.639
hearing, go check out Wild and
Weird West Virginia over on YouTube. It's

408
00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:39.960
Wild and Weird WV. You can
catch up with all the stuff we're doing,

409
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:49.199
and then you can also find Paranormal
Horizons starting July the fourteenth on Small

410
00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:52.360
Town Monsters YouTube. So you're definitely
gonna want to go check that out.

411
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:54.480
And if you're a small Town Monster's
member, you'll get it three days early

412
00:34:54.840 --> 00:34:58.519
and ad free you might. I
Joe, you're too good at that.

413
00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:02.400
All right, dude, thanks for
calling man, I appreciate it. Thanks,

414
00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:06.480
brother, have a good one.
See you next week. Man big

415
00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:25.400
for Society. Who will be right
back after these messages? Oh? Joe's

416
00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:29.800
a great guy. Guys, if
you haven't watched the Wineberry documentary on their

417
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:32.679
their YouTube channel, you need to. Oh my goodness, we have so

418
00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:36.880
many people to call back. This
is gonna get wild. All right,

419
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:43.960
Tate, I'm calling you back.
Be good. Someone in the uh someone

420
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:49.159
let me know if you can hear
Tate right off the bat, Tate,

421
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:55.360
this is live on the podcast.
What's going on? Man? What do

422
00:35:55.599 --> 00:35:59.719
Tate? You told me to call
you back? This is during the live

423
00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:05.719
show. Oh my god, that's
hilarious. Okay, this was an you

424
00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:08.679
to talk me out of the air. Then, no, no, this

425
00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:14.880
is cool. How's it going?
Good? Good? I'm watching the movie

426
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:20.599
Sign. That's a classic. All
right, that's a good movie. Anyway,

427
00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:30.519
what yes, go ahead, this
is a great night. Good lord.

428
00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:37.599
No, I saw your TikTok about
southern California where the fire is.

429
00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:44.159
Yeah, yeah, that was right
where I got my thermal. Was it

430
00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:49.360
really Okay? So the same area
where Moneymaker had his first stuff happened,

431
00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:53.519
you had that thermal happen. Yeah, Cliff recommended I go there in the

432
00:36:53.519 --> 00:36:58.519
first place, and that's where I
found the track, all right, which

433
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:02.400
prompted me to reach out to money
Maker when and then I met Moneymaker the

434
00:37:02.440 --> 00:37:08.280
next year in October twenty sixteen,
and that's when I got my thermal video.

435
00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:14.639
That's awesome, guys, is hold
on, this is Tate Hieronymous.

436
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:17.000
If you're not sure who that this
is. This is a one of my

437
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:22.199
buddies, a bigfoot researcher. He's
got a great documentary series you can watch

438
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:25.159
on YouTube Sasquatch to search for save, so make sure you hit that up.

439
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:30.719
It's pretty stellar. It is.
I'm not gonna lie. It's very

440
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:37.679
stellar. But it's crazy because on
the five Highway going towards Bakersfield the same

441
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:42.119
year that I got my footage,
but months earlier, in July, a

442
00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:45.920
guy got a one walking on the
side of the mountain. Oh really,

443
00:37:47.159 --> 00:37:52.519
yep, wow, And I was
with Moneymaker on the Bforce edition that I

444
00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:55.000
helped set up, and I met
that guy. I don't think he's lying

445
00:37:55.199 --> 00:38:00.239
at all. And then we walked
alongside the hill with that with that thing

446
00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:05.960
was and there's no way it was
a dude in the costume in southern California

447
00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:08.840
in the middle of July like that. Yeah, I mean you'd have to

448
00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:15.280
be crazy to do that, right, Like that makes no sense? No?

449
00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:17.519
Yeah, but no, yeah.
That that pretty much where you had

450
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:23.639
the Arab pointing to where Moneymaker found
tracks is literally probably within like five six

451
00:38:23.719 --> 00:38:28.199
miles away filmed my video. That's
awesome. What was the name of that

452
00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:31.760
area again, I am drying,
It's terrible. My memory is terrible.

453
00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:37.320
Plus Padres National Forest, that's right, thank you. We can bring it

454
00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:43.280
up. The Pyramid Lakes right there. Frasier Park is the biggest town.

455
00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:50.760
Nobody knows what Gorman is literally just
like a couple of gas stations and a

456
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:57.760
fast food restaurant. But it's right
next to Hungary Valley. Ohv Park,

457
00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:04.559
gotcha. Yeah. The roads up
there are pretty horrible. Actually, you

458
00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:10.079
have to have like a decent uh
lifted vehicle to get up that mountain because

459
00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:15.079
I don't really don't really take care
of it, washed out, so nobody

460
00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:22.360
can really get up there either.
So can you get maybe a little sneak

461
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:25.760
peek of any cool stuff you got
coming up? Or you keeping that uh,

462
00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:34.119
keeping that close to don't really have
any like thing crazy coming up.

463
00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:42.639
I have another commentary episode coming out, and then that's next month, and

464
00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:46.440
then after that I have a brand
new Florida episode for the SABE series.

465
00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:55.199
And I was with Ron Reid and
Ryan Golumbski RPG from Expedition and Finding Bigfoot,

466
00:39:55.320 --> 00:40:01.639
so we know we went out there, did some stuff good times.

467
00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:06.360
And yeah, other than that,
October is the only time I want to

468
00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:09.960
be doing stuff for the series,
filming some new content then gotcha. Well

469
00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:14.719
who knows what'll what will be coming
up next, but make sure that you

470
00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:17.960
just uh it's the Tate houronymous YouTube
channel. You can look up sasquatch a

471
00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:22.119
search for Sabe as well. Make
sure you're subscribed. He comes out with

472
00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:27.360
a you do a new episode about
once every month, right on the twentieth

473
00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:31.159
usually yep, I planned that,
so every twentieth of October I have a

474
00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:36.960
big Foot video coming out, So
there you go as well. Stick with

475
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:40.440
the exactly well, I'm glad I
talked to you tonight. Thank you for

476
00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:45.960
thank you for asking me to call. And you didn't even always doing the

477
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:50.119
live show, so good stuff.
Yeah, I had no like, oh,

478
00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:53.960
I'm doing the live show. Okay, all right, dude, I

479
00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:59.480
gotta keep it moving because I got
I got people calling in, so good

480
00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:06.679
chatting with you? Do all right? Pick me out peace? Oh my

481
00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:10.760
goodness, good old take all right, let's see who we got next.

482
00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:14.920
All right, let me know if
you can hear the individual right off the

483
00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:22.519
bat, please ellea. Hey this
Jeremiah. Hey you can hear me?

484
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:29.119
You got it? Hey, what's
going on? Brother? Oh? Hey,

485
00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:37.000
this is uh, this is mister
Craig. Isn't that it is?

486
00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:39.360
It is? All right? Thanks
for calling in. What have we got

487
00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:46.039
going on? Craig? Oh man, I don't even know where it began?

488
00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:53.480
Just I know you reached out to
me a while back with some contacts

489
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:59.039
and he you shared some information with
me. It's close to where I'm at

490
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:06.480
and who be careful, Craig,
all right, real quick? Uh yeah,

491
00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:09.480
is it still okay? Wow?
This could get interesting? Okay,

492
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:14.239
go ahead, Yeah, I just
don't mention the other people, please like

493
00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:15.000
by name. Yeah, no,
no, no, no, no,

494
00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:22.360
okay, great. Uh, but
he shared some information, well, they

495
00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:28.400
there was a group h shared some
information with me. Uh, some teachers

496
00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:31.119
and videos, some locations, just
just to be aware of what's going on.

497
00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:37.400
And i'd also recently, you know, I talked to you about some

498
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:40.719
different activities, and I've talked to
Jannis Carter and no ship of people just

499
00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:46.000
learning, you know. And I
recently had a baby and uh, me

500
00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:50.639
and my woman decided to go out, me and hearing the baby, go

501
00:42:50.719 --> 00:42:55.559
out at not and just see what
was going on and just uh pretn that

502
00:42:55.599 --> 00:42:59.480
we weren't big foot hunting. I
guess I really don't know. It seems

503
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:04.320
like every time she goes out,
it's a she's like a magnet for activity.

504
00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:08.199
Craig, Before we before we launch
into that, we can you're okay

505
00:43:08.239 --> 00:43:15.920
with sharing the state we're in,
right, Yeah, that's fine, Okay.

506
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:21.280
Do you want to go ahead and
say that Tennessee? All right,

507
00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:27.039
and then that's pretty much the most
we can say about where the location is,

508
00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:35.800
guys, So go ahead and feel
fair, continued Craig. Uh,

509
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:39.559
yeah, so we went. She's
been women before in the daytime, but

510
00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:45.840
never went at night. She decided
let's go at night, and I thought,

511
00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:49.360
well, we've got the newborn baby, and you know, why not,

512
00:43:49.639 --> 00:43:52.760
why not have a magnet you just
to see, you know. We

513
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:55.760
went this This area's got a lot
of graveyards in it. We sat in

514
00:43:55.800 --> 00:44:02.039
a graveyard. As soon as we
got there and we started hearing activity.

515
00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:06.760
She was freaking out. She's like, I can, I can definitely hear

516
00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:12.039
stuff walking around. She's a non
believer, by the way, but she

517
00:44:12.159 --> 00:44:15.159
goes out like, I don't know, she has experiences, but until she

518
00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:21.280
sees it, it ain't happening right
right, But we could hear. I

519
00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:27.079
had to record her out and we
did hear stuff walk in or we weren't

520
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:29.559
sure what it was, you know, a lot of activity, but it

521
00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:32.199
was really dark out. So we
sat there for a little while. She

522
00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:37.559
got spooed. We decided to move
to a different location. It's the location

523
00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:42.199
I've talked about with other people before
I've had some activities. It's a little

524
00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:47.800
bit more I opened, just slightly
more open. We were just part.

525
00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:51.519
We weren't even outside, we were
just part. As soon as we got

526
00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:57.519
there, set the recorder out and
almost immediately started having some wild action just

527
00:44:57.679 --> 00:45:05.440
noises tree, he's breaking snapping twig
snapping movement. We were looking around,

528
00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:09.679
looking off to all the directions.
We get there, get quiet, they

529
00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:16.039
start you to hear a movement and
it was definite steps. And I've not

530
00:45:16.119 --> 00:45:20.559
talked about this to anyone. This
this is the first time, so I

531
00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:23.000
may stumble through this. This is
I've texted two people of this, but

532
00:45:23.440 --> 00:45:28.280
I've never spoke it out loud.
And me and Herbs still haven't even talked

533
00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:37.599
about this. Uh So we're sitting
there and we can hear uh we definitely

534
00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:40.199
can hear activity all around again.
We got through a quarter out. It's

535
00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:45.159
dark. I've got I've got a
really good spotlight with me, but I've

536
00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:49.320
not got it on, just you
know, saving it. Of course,

537
00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:52.119
everybody's like, get your cameras rolling, get this, YadA YadA. But

538
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:55.719
I mean, I'm even out here
for this experience, and you know,

539
00:45:55.760 --> 00:46:00.639
you don't even do this all the
time. But like we're just talking and

540
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:05.880
as we're talking, I'm kind of
getting nervous right now talking about it.

541
00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:09.440
Actually didn't think it'd be this way. This is weird. This is actually

542
00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:13.039
weird, and this is part of
it. It's really interesting part of my

543
00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:19.800
research, like how people have these
have these events when they're out there for

544
00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:22.920
them and they don't they don't know
how to react, but that's what they're

545
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:27.280
there for, you know. And
like I hear all these podcasts about people

546
00:46:27.360 --> 00:46:30.840
shaking when they tra their stories,
and you know, I'm actually sitting here

547
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:37.079
shaking right now. I wouldn't believe
it, but give me a second,

548
00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:44.719
no problem. So we're sitting there
and we can we can hear definite movement

549
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:46.199
to our left, which is on
my side of the vehicle, and I'm

550
00:46:46.239 --> 00:46:52.599
looking around over there, and she's
freaking out because she'd hears something extremely close

551
00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:54.760
to her side of the vehicle,
which is a little bit closer to the

552
00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:59.679
woodline. Uh. That wasn't intentional
then, just how it worked out.

553
00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:05.239
So I'm hearing noises to my left
and I'm looking and I can see a

554
00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:10.960
little bit because it's a half moon
or whatnot clear night. There's definite movement

555
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:15.880
and you can almost see where it's
going, but you can't see. You

556
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:22.840
just follow your ears, if that
makes any sense. And then I started

557
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:25.920
hearing movement over on her side,
and she's already freaking out, and I'm

558
00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:29.920
looking over at her she's like slumped
down in the seat, shaking just a

559
00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:35.079
little bit, like not wanting to
talk and try she's trying to gri in

560
00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:37.679
and make jokes about it, and
then we're just I kind of brush it

561
00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:40.199
off. We talk about you know, or you creep out a little bit.

562
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:44.239
Yeah, yeah, I don't like
these things walking around and what you

563
00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:46.639
mean these things? And she's like, well, I know there's one on

564
00:47:46.719 --> 00:47:51.800
my side, and there's definitely something
bigger on your side. And I was

565
00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:55.480
like, okay, big for society
will be right back after these messages.

566
00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:16.360
And we were just sitting there again
and like I said, I've got my

567
00:48:16.400 --> 00:48:24.239
recorder out, but again I don't
I've never put myself in these people's shoes

568
00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:28.639
that have had these encounters and never
been able to they don't share them,

569
00:48:28.719 --> 00:48:30.599
right or you know they don't.
They're out there for it, but they're

570
00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:34.400
like, oh, I've not done
this, but I'm not. Went back

571
00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:38.880
through the recorder. We don't talk
about it. But so we're sitting there

572
00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:44.719
and uh man, it's almost like
I don't even want to say it.

573
00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:46.039
That's crazy. This is what I
do and it's crazy. I don't want

574
00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:50.679
to talk about it. But we
hear your definite movement, and she's starting

575
00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:52.400
to get a little creeped out,
and she perks up all of a sudden,

576
00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:54.559
Like I said, she slaps down
in the seat a little bit.

577
00:48:54.639 --> 00:49:00.119
She perks up, and I definitely
hear movement off to my left, and

578
00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:05.280
I'm skinning the woodline there and I
just wait and I wait, and I

579
00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:13.360
slowly pick up my spotlight and it's
a pretty bright spotlight, and I kind

580
00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:16.159
of think I see something that I
don't. Then I hear kind of like

581
00:49:16.199 --> 00:49:20.760
a step, and then I wait
and I can still her tensing up.

582
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:23.639
And then so I tell her,
I said, I'm going to shine a

583
00:49:23.719 --> 00:49:27.760
light, you know, just see
what we see. See what happens,

584
00:49:27.800 --> 00:49:30.960
just kind of jokingly to ease the
tention. But as soon as I hit

585
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:38.000
the light, when they say these
things move fast, and they move quick

586
00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:45.320
and they can disappear, I'm talking
about this thing was lightning fast. What

587
00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:52.400
I saw it was about thirty yards
away from me. It's just a slight

588
00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:55.239
incline. The bulk. The majority
of what I saw was I'm not even

589
00:49:55.320 --> 00:49:59.719
and I do this. I've not
even went back. She's begged me to

590
00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:05.199
go back, like when are you
going back to take your measurements. I

591
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:07.920
can't believe I've not went back,
you know. And when you reached out

592
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:08.599
to me today and talked to me, and I was like, yeah,

593
00:50:08.599 --> 00:50:12.239
I definitely need to share this because
I've got to get it out because as

594
00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:17.119
a researcher, you hear this stuff. But what I saw was about thirty

595
00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:27.280
yards to my left. It moved
from my left to my right. What

596
00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:30.119
I saw with the light what actually
I hit direct movement and actually caught the

597
00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:35.320
glimpse of it, was between six
to seven eight feet off the ground,

598
00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:37.679
Like you know, there was more
of it, but that's what I actually

599
00:50:37.719 --> 00:50:43.320
caught with the beam because you know, I didn't have it on like a

600
00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:45.599
broad floodlight. I had it on
a direct spotlight, so it just hit

601
00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:52.239
that instead of the broad flood whatnot. That shocked me just seeing something that

602
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:57.639
high and then immediately this thing was
gone faster than I could move the light.

603
00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:00.639
I mean, I was just seeing
movement. And you can hear it

604
00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:02.559
on the recording. You could hear
her talk about it. I can hear

605
00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:07.800
it, but I've not went back
through it enough to really sit down and

606
00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:10.039
listen to it. Just I know
it's there freaking me out to listen to.

607
00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:15.320
I mean, it just it ran
away. But it was it having

608
00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:19.760
so quick that, like I wasn't
expecting it to be that way. I

609
00:51:19.760 --> 00:51:23.440
figured my reaction to it was not
what I expected. I figured we would

610
00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:27.480
talk about it, we would go
out immediately and run there because I can

611
00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:31.159
say this is what I do.
I've been there a million times. But

612
00:51:31.280 --> 00:51:35.079
I'm telling you now I'm shaking.
I'm talking about it, and I'm sure

613
00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:38.320
I'm leaving out details, but I
mean, you know how I am.

614
00:51:38.400 --> 00:51:40.920
You've got to kind of prime me
to get more out of me. But

615
00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:47.320
it I don't know. I'm having
trouble process. And like I said,

616
00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:52.280
it's the first time I've tested this
to two people, and this is the

617
00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:55.840
first time I've actually even spoke spoke
of it. And I don't know if

618
00:51:55.880 --> 00:52:00.000
this is even where you want to
go with this. Yeah, I mean,

619
00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:04.760
Craig, did you were you able
to see any details on it or

620
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:09.039
did it just disappear that quickly or
ran away that quickly? What I saw

621
00:52:09.199 --> 00:52:15.920
I saw the mass of like I
said, at minimum was six feet,

622
00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:21.159
and I saw from there up to
about eight feet, so I saw about

623
00:52:21.519 --> 00:52:25.079
a foot and a half to two
foot of masks that large moving through the

624
00:52:25.159 --> 00:52:32.119
trees like it was. It was
higher what I actually the movement I actually

625
00:52:32.119 --> 00:52:37.320
saw because that's just where the spot
like it, you know, was higher

626
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:40.159
than say a deer, any animal
that would be here would be you know

627
00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:44.480
that I actually even caught movement shocked
me and that just freaked me out that

628
00:52:44.519 --> 00:52:50.800
it was that high. I think
the detail I'm not sure if what I

629
00:52:50.880 --> 00:52:55.320
saw was black and as it went
by had a silver shimmer, or if

630
00:52:55.360 --> 00:52:59.880
what I saw was silver and as
it went by it turned to black,

631
00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:04.880
if that makes any sense. Right, Like, as soon as the light

632
00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:08.679
hit it, there was that flashes
of color. And I'm, like I

633
00:53:08.679 --> 00:53:12.800
said, I've not I've not worked
it out because I'm not stoken of it

634
00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:17.239
or wrote it down. I'm it's
weird that I'm having trouble process and when

635
00:53:17.239 --> 00:53:21.639
this is what I'm out here doing. You know, Yeah, because you

636
00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:24.920
spent so much time in that area, I mean a massive amount of time,

637
00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:30.000
and were there any details you saw
that made you think, Okay,

638
00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:35.159
this is definitely a bigfoot in not
the other type of creature that we know

639
00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:45.400
is in that area potentially, No, No, and that's what so we

640
00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:49.039
joked that that's what we went out
there to look for. That now,

641
00:53:49.119 --> 00:53:52.719
but I don't know what the difference
is in researching, right because like I

642
00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:54.840
told you before, I'm not real
big into that, but I've been trying

643
00:53:54.840 --> 00:54:00.599
to get into it a little bit, and that's kind of what we joked

644
00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:06.079
about that we were going to see
and then so no, I can't and

645
00:54:06.119 --> 00:54:13.880
it's right on that borderline that we've
talked about, So I honestly I can't

646
00:54:13.920 --> 00:54:17.320
say for positive I know that it
wasn't a known creature because it was so

647
00:54:17.440 --> 00:54:22.119
small, right, you are not
so small, but because what's there are

648
00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:27.840
smaller than what I've seen moved through
and the way it moved through, the

649
00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:31.480
speed that it went I've never seen, and I've run up on turkeys,

650
00:54:31.519 --> 00:54:35.039
I walked, but you know,
everybody's flushed up deer an animal, and

651
00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:37.079
how fast they moved, but you
can follow them through the woods even with

652
00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:42.760
their noise. This thing, it
was so fast and then you saw the

653
00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:45.760
limbs follow it, if that makes
sense, Like as it went through then

654
00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:52.280
the limbs caught up to it.
That's really interesting, Craig. So when

655
00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:55.840
you say limbs, you're talking are
you talking about like the arms? Uh

656
00:54:55.920 --> 00:55:00.679
no, the tree limbs? Oh? Sorry, okay, yeah, well

657
00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:04.199
I won't be I'm not sure if
what I saw, what I would have

658
00:55:04.280 --> 00:55:10.079
saw would have been if it was
a limb, it would have been from

659
00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:15.519
the shoulder down, you know,
the hot wise what I saw, and

660
00:55:15.559 --> 00:55:19.000
like I said, I'm still processing
it. I talked to her. I

661
00:55:19.079 --> 00:55:21.119
told her I was going to call
you and talk to you, and she

662
00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:22.760
was that was the first time I
men heard him and spoke of it,

663
00:55:22.800 --> 00:55:25.960
and she was like she even joked, She's like, well, I know

664
00:55:27.000 --> 00:55:30.000
I didn't see a big foot.
I'll just say it was a dog man

665
00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:34.320
and laughed about it. Because I'm
like, why would you laugh if you

666
00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:37.360
don't believe it? Why would you
pick one over the other? You know?

667
00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:45.519
But that's I don't know. I
don't know. Oh man, Yeah,

668
00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:47.840
Craig. I mean, I know
this is a tough one because you're

669
00:55:49.000 --> 00:55:52.679
very, very affected by this.
But if you can, it's really a

670
00:55:52.719 --> 00:55:58.000
thing where it would be interesting if
you could go back and check out that

671
00:55:58.199 --> 00:56:05.039
area. Yeah, normally I'll look. Now that's what's both puzzling me because

672
00:56:05.079 --> 00:56:07.000
normally I would go, like I
say, she's always telling me, you

673
00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:09.920
know, I can have my bigfoot
time and whatnot, and we joke about

674
00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:14.320
it and this and that. Like
she's asked me ever since. Then,

675
00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:15.360
She's like, when are you going
back to the woods. I'm like,

676
00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:20.639
I will and there or I'll tell
her I'm going. I'm like, I

677
00:56:20.679 --> 00:56:23.159
find a reason not to im Like, all I really need is twenty minutes

678
00:56:23.320 --> 00:56:27.679
to go take my measurements because I
wasn't even deep in the woods. I

679
00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:30.679
just got to get there and walk
to where I seen it, right,

680
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:34.920
But for some reason, I've not
brought myself to it. But I'm also

681
00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:42.559
the guy that you know is out
there walking alone all these miles, you

682
00:56:42.559 --> 00:56:45.960
know, like it's weird. I
don't understand why I've not went back,

683
00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:49.639
but yet I'll go to these hops. That does that make any sense?

684
00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:52.199
Yeah? And I mean listeners need
to know that, like you are going

685
00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:57.199
out in the woods for your by
yourself, and like you're hiking what eight

686
00:56:57.239 --> 00:57:01.079
to ten miles, like it's nothing
in the in the middle of nowhere.

687
00:57:02.039 --> 00:57:09.239
It's wild. But you know,
I know going through the thing that I

688
00:57:09.280 --> 00:57:15.119
experienced a few weekends ago when my
son and I went camping and we had

689
00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:19.360
some stuff happen. Like I was
affected pretty hard by that, and there

690
00:57:19.400 --> 00:57:22.440
was a point where I was like, I don't even want to come back

691
00:57:22.480 --> 00:57:25.400
and do any of this again.
And that feeling kind of went away once

692
00:57:25.480 --> 00:57:30.719
we left the area about ten miles
out of it. You were saying,

693
00:57:30.760 --> 00:57:35.159
you don't want to come back and
do any of what, like any camping

694
00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:37.599
or even the podcast stuff, oh, just the camping, because like,

695
00:57:38.320 --> 00:57:42.480
so what I feel happened is when
we were in that area, I feel

696
00:57:42.519 --> 00:57:46.840
like I was affected by infrasound,
like I was telling you earlier, and

697
00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:50.480
it just it hit me really hard, and I was like, you know,

698
00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:53.840
feeling kind of angry, feeling like
I don't know if what's going on

699
00:57:53.920 --> 00:57:57.400
here, it's really messing with me. And I was like, you know

700
00:57:57.440 --> 00:58:00.960
what, I just want to get
out of here. And uh, about

701
00:58:01.000 --> 00:58:07.320
like ten minutes away from the area, like that whole feeling just left.

702
00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:13.679
It was is a very weird experience, Craig. I'm still kind of processing

703
00:58:13.719 --> 00:58:19.760
that myself, and it's been a
number of weeks. So yeah, like

704
00:58:19.800 --> 00:58:22.760
I said, this happened my my
my siding, or if you want to

705
00:58:22.760 --> 00:58:25.639
call it that, I mean,
everybody's gonna classify I'm different. I'm I'm

706
00:58:25.639 --> 00:58:30.960
definitely gonna say it was siding.
I won't say it was a broad daylight

707
00:58:30.320 --> 00:58:36.960
full body siding, you know,
but I'm definitely leaning because of what I

708
00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:40.199
saw in the hot and the movement
and the sounds leaning up to it and

709
00:58:40.280 --> 00:58:45.119
afterwards and in all our actions,
I definitely believe it was a siding.

710
00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:50.840
But like I'm almost like I seen, Like I talked to you before,

711
00:58:51.119 --> 00:58:52.320
you know, what am I gonna
do when I see one? I was

712
00:58:52.320 --> 00:58:55.280
like, I really don't know,
Like once I've seen it, like my

713
00:58:55.280 --> 00:59:00.159
my, my feelings, my every
like, I believe these creatures a hunder

714
00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:04.599
wholeheartedly exist. But then it was
like, oh, we talked about it

715
00:59:04.639 --> 00:59:07.079
for like a hot second in the
woods there, we left, we came

716
00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:12.960
home, and ever since then,
I've just been like I'm done with everything.

717
00:59:13.599 --> 00:59:15.599
I'm good, but like I don't
know. And then you reached out

718
00:59:15.639 --> 00:59:19.280
to me today and I was like, no, no, I can't be

719
00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:22.239
done. I gotta go back.
I gotta do this for you know.

720
00:59:22.280 --> 00:59:29.760
But like I understand now. I
used to hear these people talk about how

721
00:59:29.800 --> 00:59:32.360
they would hold these encounters in for
years and years and years, and I'm

722
00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:36.480
like no, you got to share
it. But like I understand now,

723
00:59:36.679 --> 00:59:39.280
I mean, it's crazy. It's
a wild feeling. It's like I say,

724
00:59:39.360 --> 00:59:42.559
talking to you now, I'm shaking
it. I was in a car

725
00:59:43.519 --> 00:59:45.000
exactly. No, it wasn't like
I walked up on this thing. You

726
00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:51.760
know, Craig, I'd be interested
to see if you're able, if you're

727
00:59:51.800 --> 00:59:54.320
able to see any tracks in that
area. I mean, if you if

728
00:59:54.360 --> 01:00:00.320
you do decide that you can go
back, I would be very cute curious

729
01:00:00.440 --> 01:00:04.840
to see. You know, what
measurements if you take, and if there's

730
01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:09.800
any evidence that you find there too. I'm going tomorrow. Okay, that's

731
01:00:09.800 --> 01:00:16.559
great. We already talked about it
because we were going to go to not

732
01:00:16.840 --> 01:00:21.559
but we just said I need to
go in the daytime, get my measurements

733
01:00:21.639 --> 01:00:24.119
rout before we go, try to
have another experience. And then, like

734
01:00:24.199 --> 01:00:28.760
I said, I don't know,
she's like a magnet for it. So

735
01:00:28.840 --> 01:00:31.960
if you guys got any non believer
women out there taken with you, if

736
01:00:31.960 --> 01:00:39.760
you want to have any experience because
it's wild, well all right, I'll

737
01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:46.079
keep that in mind. Craig.
It's been it's been a pleasure chatting with

738
01:00:46.119 --> 01:00:51.320
you again. I think if you
could, you know, maybe the next

739
01:00:51.320 --> 01:00:53.840
few days. If you have any
updates, definitely reach out. Let me

740
01:00:53.920 --> 01:00:58.320
know what you find. So yeah, I'll go out and get some measurements

741
01:00:58.360 --> 01:01:01.840
tomorrow and I'll get sent over to
you. The fucking like I said,

742
01:01:01.880 --> 01:01:06.039
I don't know while I'm not went
and pulled the recording off. I just

743
01:01:06.239 --> 01:01:08.880
we listened to it as we're leaving
and we could hear it, and I've

744
01:01:09.000 --> 01:01:15.400
just set it down. I'm not
put it on the computer. So I'll

745
01:01:15.440 --> 01:01:17.719
try and get to that to you
and get that sent over to you absolutely.

746
01:01:19.639 --> 01:01:22.119
Okay, thank you for calling in. I appreciate it. Hey,

747
01:01:22.159 --> 01:01:24.920
no problem, brother, I was
in Pune as always, all right,

748
01:01:25.079 --> 01:01:35.480
be safe, usually good guys.
We have it is one wild night.

749
01:01:36.079 --> 01:01:45.159
Let's see. Let me look Cliff
called. That's gonna be off the air

750
01:01:45.719 --> 01:02:07.039
call Big for Society will be right
back after these messages. Hello, Hi,

751
01:02:07.119 --> 01:02:13.719
this is Jeremiah. Hello, Hi, this is Jeremiah. Hello.

752
01:02:13.800 --> 01:02:15.639
This is Kevin. Can you hear
me? Oh hey, Kevin, how's

753
01:02:15.679 --> 01:02:22.280
it going? All right? How's
it going? Dude? I've had so

754
01:02:22.360 --> 01:02:25.079
many people calling in. I'm excited
to talk to you. Do you mind

755
01:02:25.519 --> 01:02:30.840
introducing yourself really quick? To the
listeners and listeners if you can let me

756
01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:35.920
know if you can hear Kevin in
the chat, and then after we hear

757
01:02:35.960 --> 01:02:39.320
that, we'll go ahead. Oh
okay, yeah, I was in the

758
01:02:39.400 --> 01:02:45.119
chat. I was listening to the
sighting and maybe I was behind or something

759
01:02:45.199 --> 01:02:50.719
on the chat is a little behind, but yeah, anyway, this is

760
01:02:50.800 --> 01:02:58.639
Kevin Llewellen and I'm in eastern Washington
State. At ten years of age,

761
01:02:58.719 --> 01:03:04.960
I saw Roger Patterson in person present
Patterson Gimlin film, and so I was

762
01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:09.239
hooked at that time. I've been
a big Foot enthusiast then giving away my

763
01:03:09.320 --> 01:03:15.519
age here, but I've been an
enthusiast for fifty seven years. Yeah,

764
01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:20.719
I got and stuff's going on up
here. The continues to go on.

765
01:03:22.079 --> 01:03:27.679
The two weeks ago, I was
in the Washington Cascades of Cascade Mountain range

766
01:03:27.760 --> 01:03:34.679
of Washington and Oregon. Are I
you know, I think it's the heart

767
01:03:35.360 --> 01:03:37.559
of Bigfoot activity. I you know, I know they're all over North America

768
01:03:37.679 --> 01:03:46.079
and everything and Alaska and but but
yeah, the cascadee you know, is

769
01:03:46.119 --> 01:03:51.360
definitely one of the one of the
hot spots. So yeah, I just

770
01:03:51.440 --> 01:03:55.360
you know, I had stuff going
on, like say two weeks ago.

771
01:03:57.159 --> 01:04:00.559
If you want me to kind of
go into what we found the things that

772
01:04:00.599 --> 01:04:08.840
we heard, then okay, Yeah, the the first night there was a

773
01:04:08.880 --> 01:04:16.360
wood knock, unsolicited wood knock south
of camp, and then just after two

774
01:04:16.559 --> 01:04:23.599
a m. We heard some things
the coyotes going off. But on my

775
01:04:23.719 --> 01:04:29.440
audio, I've got two clips,
and I wish they were closer to the

776
01:04:29.480 --> 01:04:35.760
recorders. I listened to it with
my headphones on, and it almost seems

777
01:04:35.880 --> 01:04:40.760
like, well, there's a possible
I'm just not sure, but there's a

778
01:04:40.800 --> 01:04:47.840
possibility that it's not a coyote that
set off the coyotes. So you hear

779
01:04:47.920 --> 01:04:51.360
it said, you know a lot
that a bigfoot howl, you know,

780
01:04:51.440 --> 01:04:57.559
sets off the coyotes, and they
started hearing their howling and screaming and stuff.

781
01:04:57.960 --> 01:05:04.280
And so anyway, we I just
kind of had this gut feeling another

782
01:05:04.320 --> 01:05:08.239
thing that was going on. And
this might not be mean anything at all,

783
01:05:08.559 --> 01:05:15.000
but we were sitting there in camp
and the frogs were going off to

784
01:05:15.039 --> 01:05:18.800
the east of us, and you
know, frogs will just go and they

785
01:05:19.199 --> 01:05:23.760
won't shut up, you know,
but all of a sudden they would just

786
01:05:23.760 --> 01:05:28.880
go quiet, and they would stay
quiet for a few minutes and this may

787
01:05:28.960 --> 01:05:32.039
be just you know, typical frog
behavior. I don't know, I don't

788
01:05:32.039 --> 01:05:35.599
know about frogs. But and then
and then they would start in again,

789
01:05:36.320 --> 01:05:40.840
and then all of a sudden,
they would just shut up. We didn't

790
01:05:40.880 --> 01:05:45.440
hear anything walking around, but we
were just you know, listening to other

791
01:05:45.519 --> 01:05:48.679
wildlife. You know, when you're
out there, you know, pay attention

792
01:05:48.760 --> 01:05:54.159
to the other wildlife to see what
they're doing if you're going to maybe get

793
01:05:54.159 --> 01:06:00.760
any bigfoot activity going on, and
how that affects the other wildlife. And

794
01:06:00.800 --> 01:06:04.159
so I just had kind of this
this gut feeling like could there be something

795
01:06:04.800 --> 01:06:10.559
east of our camp that was over
there maybe listening to us, could there

796
01:06:10.719 --> 01:06:15.360
be some bigfoot activity that was going
on over there? So the next morning,

797
01:06:15.440 --> 01:06:19.760
myself and two others went over and
you know, it's hard to say

798
01:06:19.800 --> 01:06:24.800
exactly how far away from camp,
less than one hundred yards, you know,

799
01:06:25.079 --> 01:06:30.280
because we've got to walk around all
the dead fall trees. So you're

800
01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:33.559
zig zagging, you know, to
go back in there and checking things out.

801
01:06:34.119 --> 01:06:43.360
And came upon this area and all
three four feet wide nine ten feet

802
01:06:43.480 --> 01:06:49.920
long, and there were these boughs
laid down on the ground, and there

803
01:06:50.760 --> 01:06:59.360
there is there was a smaller snag
dead tree that came down, and so

804
01:06:59.440 --> 01:07:01.960
we were looking at the bows.
We were looking at this thing. Did

805
01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:09.039
it bring down these boughs? They
we did a lot of checking, We

806
01:07:09.079 --> 01:07:13.800
did a lot of experimenting with those
boughs, breaking them ourselves, and they

807
01:07:13.840 --> 01:07:18.639
were broken, but like broken and
peeled. So two three inches up the

808
01:07:18.679 --> 01:07:24.960
little limb of the broken bow,
you know, it was the bark was

809
01:07:25.000 --> 01:07:30.079
peeled away. And so it's so
we're thinking, and all this is laying

810
01:07:30.119 --> 01:07:36.800
there by this down tree. The
I looked and looked for hair. I

811
01:07:36.880 --> 01:07:41.239
can't tell you how long I looked, and I'm like, okay, come

812
01:07:41.280 --> 01:07:43.840
on, you got to find some
bigfoot hair, right, you know here

813
01:07:43.840 --> 01:07:46.880
in the well. Yeah. But
so anyway, definitely we're doing that.

814
01:07:47.400 --> 01:07:53.880
So we decided, okay, let's
say Bigfoot did not peel these bows off

815
01:07:54.519 --> 01:07:58.960
and try to make a mat or
a place here on the ground. So

816
01:07:59.239 --> 01:08:04.079
say these bows came down with the
tree when it fell. But at the

817
01:08:04.119 --> 01:08:11.639
same time, there I was going
through this matted area, and you know,

818
01:08:11.719 --> 01:08:17.359
in places there were bows that were
four or five bows deep. So

819
01:08:18.199 --> 01:08:23.479
we're like, okay, so then
okay, let's just say, you know,

820
01:08:23.600 --> 01:08:27.640
okay, it's not. Let's say, okay, don't jump to saying

821
01:08:27.640 --> 01:08:31.119
that it's bigfoot right away. Yeah, let's say, okay, let's say

822
01:08:31.159 --> 01:08:36.359
the tree did this when it fell, when it came down. But then

823
01:08:36.439 --> 01:08:43.680
about thirty feet away was another spot, and it was just a small little

824
01:08:43.720 --> 01:08:48.560
area of bows that were kind of
piled up there, and there was another

825
01:08:48.640 --> 01:08:55.159
little tiny snag, a little dead
fall right along there. And on the

826
01:08:55.199 --> 01:09:00.359
one side of the dead fall were
two sticks in an X. And on

827
01:09:00.399 --> 01:09:02.640
the other side of the dead fall
there were two sticks that were there,

828
01:09:03.199 --> 01:09:09.439
and around one of them was another
stick that was not broken in half,

829
01:09:09.840 --> 01:09:17.840
but cracked, and it was wrapped
around the one stick and then made a

830
01:09:17.960 --> 01:09:25.560
V shape on top of this other
snag. Now I'm not much into all

831
01:09:25.600 --> 01:09:30.199
these x's and all this stuff in
the forest, because I see it millions

832
01:09:30.239 --> 01:09:34.760
and millions of times here in the
Pacific Northwest. We've got you know,

833
01:09:34.880 --> 01:09:40.960
snowload, we've got freezing rain,
windstorms, you know, and so there's

834
01:09:41.000 --> 01:09:46.239
all kinds of this stuff the way
things come down. But so we found

835
01:09:46.319 --> 01:09:50.079
this possible, you know that was
it a resting area? Was it a

836
01:09:50.119 --> 01:09:55.920
possible kind of a bed that?
Was it a spot where they were listening

837
01:09:56.159 --> 01:10:00.439
to our camp. You know,
so like say we ruled we tried to

838
01:10:00.520 --> 01:10:05.399
rule this stuff out. Say nature
brought that tree down, say it it

839
01:10:05.840 --> 01:10:11.920
brought those bows down in the one
spot. How it kind of piled them

840
01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:15.760
up, I don't know. But
then you know, like say thirty feet

841
01:10:15.800 --> 01:10:21.439
away was this other spot, and
so you combine the two together, and

842
01:10:21.479 --> 01:10:27.680
it was like, you know,
okay, explain that to me. I

843
01:10:28.239 --> 01:10:30.319
you know, that's what I always
do to people. I always say,

844
01:10:30.439 --> 01:10:33.479
okay, you know, you explain
that to me. You know, help

845
01:10:33.520 --> 01:10:36.720
me out, Explain this to me. You know, how did this happen

846
01:10:38.159 --> 01:10:44.000
exactly? So later so yeah,
So then later in the afternoon two thirty

847
01:10:44.079 --> 01:10:50.119
or so, I took another couple
investigators because they were out that morning exploring

848
01:10:50.119 --> 01:10:55.239
in a different direction, bushwhacking in
a different direction. So I took them

849
01:10:55.279 --> 01:10:57.119
back, you know, and I
said, hey, you know, you

850
01:10:57.199 --> 01:10:59.680
got to look at this. Take
a look at this. So I had

851
01:11:00.399 --> 01:11:04.920
some other people back there from our
camp, and the three of us hung

852
01:11:05.039 --> 01:11:11.760
back and we were hanging around,
and we still kept looking and you know,

853
01:11:11.800 --> 01:11:15.520
and we had circled that morning,
uh, myself and the other two

854
01:11:15.560 --> 01:11:17.840
that were with me, you know, we were doing circles around there,

855
01:11:18.159 --> 01:11:23.399
trying to find, you know,
any other signs that could point towards Bigfoot,

856
01:11:23.439 --> 01:11:29.279
you know. But anyway, in
the afternoon, myself and two other

857
01:11:29.319 --> 01:11:32.439
people were back there, and all
of a sudden, the one guy goes,

858
01:11:33.079 --> 01:11:35.920
you know, I hear something walking
back over there, you know,

859
01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:41.880
further to the east, and we're
listening and we could hear the little twig

860
01:11:41.880 --> 01:11:45.399
snaps. There was something moving back
over there, and there was kind of

861
01:11:45.439 --> 01:11:50.439
a vocalization it. You know,
I thought, okay, that sounds like

862
01:11:50.520 --> 01:11:55.279
maybe like an elk. Elk will
do like a mew, you know,

863
01:11:55.439 --> 01:12:00.279
mew and kind of thing. But
then all of a sudden we heard rock

864
01:12:00.319 --> 01:12:05.880
clacks. You know, No,
duh, elk do not do rock click

865
01:12:05.960 --> 01:12:11.079
right, that's that's not an elk
thing. Yeah, okay, you know,

866
01:12:11.119 --> 01:12:12.920
it's like, hey, you know
that, if you know me,

867
01:12:13.279 --> 01:12:15.399
I'm always trying to rule out stuff. You know. It's like, you

868
01:12:15.439 --> 01:12:18.439
know, okay, what else is
out there? You know, elk,

869
01:12:18.600 --> 01:12:23.840
fox bear, you know that that's
going to do things. But okay,

870
01:12:23.880 --> 01:12:28.079
then all of a sudden, these
rock clacks start in and I look at

871
01:12:28.079 --> 01:12:30.520
the other two, you know,
and I said to the one you know,

872
01:12:30.520 --> 01:12:33.439
I said, that's rock clacking,
and he said, yes, that's

873
01:12:33.600 --> 01:12:38.560
rock clacking, right, and so
yeah, and so we're standing there listen,

874
01:12:38.640 --> 01:12:41.600
and then the other one he was
a few yards in front of me,

875
01:12:41.640 --> 01:12:44.720
and the other guy he's got it. I still keep hearing it.

876
01:12:44.880 --> 01:12:49.520
There's still something moving over there.
And so I say, I can't remember

877
01:12:50.399 --> 01:12:58.439
how long. It wasn't terribly long
that the rock clacking went on, but

878
01:12:58.560 --> 01:13:02.640
it was several times. And then
I took a little twig and I tapped

879
01:13:02.880 --> 01:13:06.279
on a you know, a dead
stick or a dead limb sticking up out

880
01:13:06.319 --> 01:13:10.800
of a of a dead fault,
a down tree, and so I kind

881
01:13:10.800 --> 01:13:14.039
of did my own little tapping and
to try to see if I could get

882
01:13:14.039 --> 01:13:18.840
any kind of response in that.
And well the raw clocking stopped, so

883
01:13:20.119 --> 01:13:23.760
they didn't. Yeah, they didn't
want to try to, you know,

884
01:13:23.880 --> 01:13:30.840
answer or do anything like that back. And so anyway, you know,

885
01:13:30.960 --> 01:13:35.000
it just it wasn't like it wasn't
a nest, but was it, you

886
01:13:35.039 --> 01:13:41.159
know, was it a spot?
It was definitely in a location where they

887
01:13:41.159 --> 01:13:45.319
could easily listen to our camp.
And so was there something going on there?

888
01:13:45.399 --> 01:13:50.319
You know, Like I say,
I just can't say one hundred percent

889
01:13:50.520 --> 01:13:58.600
sure. If we would have found
some hair, then okay, then I

890
01:13:58.640 --> 01:14:04.479
would say for sure and not just
jump to the conclusion that bigfoot was was

891
01:14:04.520 --> 01:14:10.039
making some kind of a mat or
some kind of a place to sit or

892
01:14:10.159 --> 01:14:15.600
lay down exoltly. Yeah, that's
that's a thing where, you know,

893
01:14:15.640 --> 01:14:18.920
because when I see stuff like that, I'm always thinking, okay, maybe

894
01:14:18.960 --> 01:14:25.199
bigfoot, but potentially bushcraft. But
you mentioned some stuff that's like it's just

895
01:14:25.319 --> 01:14:29.600
it's very weird, right, especially
the rock clacking. I mean that's very

896
01:14:29.640 --> 01:14:32.800
weird. Yeah, you know,
it wasn't and we weren't. We didn't

897
01:14:32.800 --> 01:14:38.560
find any you know kind of you
know, shelter type things like you say,

898
01:14:38.680 --> 01:14:45.760
like somebody doing somebody practicing survival thing
or anything like that. You know,

899
01:14:45.800 --> 01:14:49.600
there was no lean to Uh,
it was just that in that mat

900
01:14:50.039 --> 01:14:56.720
of bows laid out and then like
I say, thirty feet away there was

901
01:14:56.760 --> 01:15:00.079
almost another spot. And of course
in my mind and I'm picturing all this

902
01:15:00.199 --> 01:15:05.439
well, could have been a bigfoot
and maybe a mama and she took her

903
01:15:05.479 --> 01:15:10.039
little poddler and she's like goes over
here, and it's like, you know,

904
01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:14.359
you sit here, you don't move. You know, I'm gonna lay

905
01:15:14.399 --> 01:15:17.039
down and listen to the camp,
listen to those humans over there, and

906
01:15:17.159 --> 01:15:20.279
so you know, my mind,
my mind gets going like that. But

907
01:15:20.319 --> 01:15:25.960
then in reality or I mean to
get you know, to keep it serious

908
01:15:26.319 --> 01:15:29.560
with investigating, you know, it's
like, okay, let's we got to

909
01:15:29.640 --> 01:15:32.600
rule out these other things, like
say, boy, I wish I could

910
01:15:32.600 --> 01:15:36.279
have found some hair. I you
know, I was sky high there for

911
01:15:36.319 --> 01:15:42.119
a few minutes, Like there's got
to be some hair around in here that

912
01:15:42.119 --> 01:15:47.119
that could maybe point us towards Bigfoot. But anyway, yeah, like I

913
01:15:47.159 --> 01:15:54.760
say, that was in the Washington
Cascades two weeks ago, and so you

914
01:15:54.800 --> 01:16:00.199
know, things just keep you know, I just keep having things continue need

915
01:16:00.239 --> 01:16:05.039
to happen, but just can't get
anything, you know on video. Right,

916
01:16:06.279 --> 01:16:11.479
Well, keep keep going. I
mean, thank you for sharing about

917
01:16:11.479 --> 01:16:14.600
that. Is that a place you
might be going back to, Kevin?

918
01:16:15.760 --> 01:16:17.520
Oh yeah, I've been there.
I've been there. Yeah, I've been

919
01:16:17.560 --> 01:16:24.000
there, yeah multiple times, and
we'll be going back there, you know.

920
01:16:24.119 --> 01:16:29.399
So yeah, it's it's a spot
that Yeah, it has activity for

921
01:16:29.439 --> 01:16:39.399
sure, you know for decades that
there's been activity yeah there as well,

922
01:16:40.720 --> 01:16:46.319
oh yeah there has so yeah,
it's it and you know, so yeah,

923
01:16:46.359 --> 01:16:50.159
there's there's family units that have been
in that area, like you say,

924
01:16:50.279 --> 01:16:56.199
for decades, and you know,
you just you know, you've got

925
01:16:56.199 --> 01:17:00.079
to just catch them, you know, try to draw them into camp.

926
01:17:01.479 --> 01:17:06.760
I continue to do the curiosity type
stuff. That's my approach. You know,

927
01:17:06.840 --> 01:17:14.840
I'll play harmonica, you know,
flute type thing and you know,

928
01:17:14.960 --> 01:17:20.479
anything to you know, to try
to get their curiosity going and and keep

929
01:17:20.520 --> 01:17:25.479
them around camp, you know,
keep them interested in what we're doing.

930
01:17:26.600 --> 01:17:30.319
Absolutely, Kevin, It's always always
a pleasure to talk to you. Do

931
01:17:30.319 --> 01:17:33.279
you mind taking a few minutes to
talk about that. You have two books

932
01:17:33.279 --> 01:17:39.439
out now, right, I do, yeah, and call well. The

933
01:17:39.439 --> 01:17:43.680
first one is called Incessantly big Footing, and the second one is called Incessantly

934
01:17:43.720 --> 01:17:50.079
big Footing Through Time and their fun
reads. They're just short stories, and

935
01:17:50.159 --> 01:17:57.239
you know, they're some of it
is fiction, but others are based on

936
01:17:57.479 --> 01:18:02.680
true events. In the first book, I cover my sighting and the cast.

937
01:18:03.039 --> 01:18:11.159
I got of a track associated with
that, that sighting, but otherwise

938
01:18:11.199 --> 01:18:15.720
I wanted to keep it fun.
I wanted to keep it lighthearted, and

939
01:18:15.720 --> 01:18:18.079
and I think I accomplished that.
You know, there's there's a lot of

940
01:18:18.119 --> 01:18:23.319
books out there with you know,
with sightings and research that's going on.

941
01:18:23.439 --> 01:18:26.920
But I wanted to do something a
little bit different, and you know,

942
01:18:26.960 --> 01:18:31.119
I just maybe have people smile and
and get a chuckle out of some of

943
01:18:31.119 --> 01:18:38.439
the stories and so so yeah,
you know it's they're available on Amazon or

944
01:18:38.840 --> 01:18:45.119
you know, Barnes and Noble type
things, Walmart bookstores type things. So

945
01:18:45.319 --> 01:18:50.840
I do have those two books out, and yeah, we just uh,

946
01:18:51.479 --> 01:19:00.720
we we were back at the place
that I had my sighting in the Washington

947
01:19:00.800 --> 01:19:06.600
Cascades. We were back there to
two years ago. Now, yeah,

948
01:19:06.640 --> 01:19:13.239
we were back there, was it
two years ago? And then and then

949
01:19:13.319 --> 01:19:17.479
we were also there back there last
year. And last year we had stuff

950
01:19:17.520 --> 01:19:23.239
going on too. We had some
we found on the one trail behind camp

951
01:19:23.680 --> 01:19:29.680
where we had just been down the
night before. We found some rocks then

952
01:19:29.800 --> 01:19:34.640
lined up rocks placed that were placed
during the night that we found the next

953
01:19:34.680 --> 01:19:43.159
morning. And we had some other
stuff going on. I think I saw

954
01:19:43.159 --> 01:19:49.520
some eye glow. Yeah, we
had some some strange stuff going on too,

955
01:19:51.399 --> 01:19:57.600
you know, like when I when
I saw the eye glow, myself

956
01:19:57.600 --> 01:20:05.000
and another investigator were in this one
position and downhill or three other guys and

957
01:20:05.479 --> 01:20:11.800
they thought they said to me later
they said that we had they thought they

958
01:20:11.840 --> 01:20:16.399
had heard something walking, that it
would walk towards myself and this other investigator,

959
01:20:17.000 --> 01:20:19.600
and then it would like and then
they would hear it coming back closer

960
01:20:19.640 --> 01:20:28.359
towards them. And when I saw
the possible eye glow down there below me,

961
01:20:28.720 --> 01:20:32.880
I turned around and looked over my
right shoulder and down in the little

962
01:20:32.920 --> 01:20:38.439
gully, very dark down there,
and so you know, and that's where

963
01:20:39.119 --> 01:20:41.199
there's two spots, you know,
down there, and I was like,

964
01:20:41.920 --> 01:20:45.680
what, it's pitch black down in
there, you know, And so I

965
01:20:45.760 --> 01:20:48.319
said, you know, to the
gal, the investigator next to me,

966
01:20:48.359 --> 01:20:51.000
I said, you know, hey, I think there might be eye glow

967
01:20:51.239 --> 01:20:57.079
down here. And I had the
my flear and she had night vision,

968
01:20:57.920 --> 01:21:02.800
and we turned. She came around
on my to my left shoulder, and

969
01:21:02.920 --> 01:21:09.119
she raised up her night vision and
I was bringing up my flear but with

970
01:21:09.159 --> 01:21:15.239
my naked eye. Then there was
this flash of orange red light that went

971
01:21:15.279 --> 01:21:19.399
through the trees, and she she
saw it through the night vision. Of

972
01:21:19.399 --> 01:21:25.039
course, she saw the light and
it lit up her night vision, and

973
01:21:25.119 --> 01:21:27.800
so she saw it that way,
and I saw it with with just my

974
01:21:27.920 --> 01:21:31.319
eyes, and you know, so
you know, when it comes to that

975
01:21:31.880 --> 01:21:39.079
stuff. I don't know, you
know, I don't know what that means.

976
01:21:39.079 --> 01:21:43.399
I don't know what that stuff is. You know, Yeah, you

977
01:21:43.439 --> 01:21:45.600
can get into the orbs. You
know, orbs have been seen in that

978
01:21:45.760 --> 01:21:51.720
area before. Yeah, so you
know, yeah so yeah, so you

979
01:21:51.760 --> 01:21:57.680
know, is that is that associated
with the Bigfoot activity? That's you know,

980
01:21:57.800 --> 01:22:02.920
yeah, that's a whole other topic
then going there. So but anyway,

981
01:22:03.920 --> 01:22:09.960
yeah, so I've been back to
the back to the area where I

982
01:22:09.960 --> 01:22:16.159
had my sighting, continue to go
around to North Idaho, uh Northeast Washington.

983
01:22:17.560 --> 01:22:24.159
In the fall of twenty twenty two, I was on my deer stand

984
01:22:24.680 --> 01:22:30.319
in Northeast Washington and as the crow
crow flies, it's about eleven miles from

985
01:22:30.479 --> 01:22:38.119
Bossburg, Washington. And those that
can know the Bigfoot history, Bossburg is

986
01:22:38.159 --> 01:22:44.960
the Bossburg Cripplefoot, right in nineteen
sixty nine, the Bossburg Cripplefoot. So

987
01:22:45.279 --> 01:22:47.720
anyway, I was on my deer
stand and all of a sudden, there's

988
01:22:47.800 --> 01:22:53.239
you know, wood knocks ring out
in the gully behind me below me in

989
01:22:53.319 --> 01:22:56.880
my deer stand, and you know, and I'm like, whoa, No,

990
01:22:57.079 --> 01:23:00.960
that sounds like wood knocks, you
know, And and so I had

991
01:23:00.000 --> 01:23:05.680
that that happening, and so I
was all and so, you know,

992
01:23:05.720 --> 01:23:11.000
I didn't get a deer that afternoon, that evening. So I was back

993
01:23:11.039 --> 01:23:15.039
in there the next couple afternoons,
and I guess, you know, how

994
01:23:15.079 --> 01:23:19.920
do you confirm that something is a
wood knock and not maybe a tree popping?

995
01:23:20.720 --> 01:23:24.520
Again? If you know me,
yeah, if you know me,

996
01:23:24.600 --> 01:23:28.600
I'm always trying to rule out things, you know. So well, I

997
01:23:28.720 --> 01:23:32.439
was back like the next you know, was it even free Sunday? Two

998
01:23:32.560 --> 01:23:35.960
d Wednesday. I was back there, you know, at least two more

999
01:23:36.000 --> 01:23:43.600
afternoons, eating the same weather conditions, and did not hear anything that sounded

1000
01:23:43.600 --> 01:23:49.920
like wood knocks at all, you
know, the next days and so yeah,

1001
01:23:50.039 --> 01:23:55.479
so but the first afternoon, the
opening day of the season, and

1002
01:23:55.479 --> 01:24:00.199
and that late afternoon is when I
heard these wood knocks behind me. Well,

1003
01:24:00.239 --> 01:24:03.840
then the next spring, the next
April, I'm in the same area

1004
01:24:04.439 --> 01:24:11.279
and wild turkey hunting, and I
stop and I was walking back into the

1005
01:24:11.319 --> 01:24:14.640
timber, and I stop and get
a drink of water. And I look

1006
01:24:14.680 --> 01:24:21.319
over to my right and on this
stump is this old glass bottle and you

1007
01:24:21.359 --> 01:24:28.840
know kind of those antique is antique
like bottles kind of thing. And it

1008
01:24:28.960 --> 01:24:31.720
was sitting there flat on the stump, and there was a pine cone on

1009
01:24:31.760 --> 01:24:38.239
top of it. And this was
about two hundred yards away from where I

1010
01:24:38.319 --> 01:24:45.760
was in the deer stand the previous
October. And so I go over and

1011
01:24:45.199 --> 01:24:48.680
I took the bottle. I brought
it home, and I have a finger

1012
01:24:49.960 --> 01:24:55.920
print kit finger dusting. I dusted
it. I heard fingerprints, and the

1013
01:24:55.920 --> 01:24:59.159
only ones that were on there is
were I picked it up just with my

1014
01:25:00.119 --> 01:25:05.079
Yeah, and it only has the
opening of like a half inch or so.

1015
01:25:05.760 --> 01:25:13.399
And inside there were all these little
narrow roots, a little small piece

1016
01:25:13.399 --> 01:25:16.000
of the roots, and they were
plant root and they were dried up.

1017
01:25:16.520 --> 01:25:19.560
So it had been there for a
while, and it, you know,

1018
01:25:19.840 --> 01:25:23.520
the bottle had maybe even been there
through the winter. I don't know,

1019
01:25:23.880 --> 01:25:30.359
the pine cone hadn't. Okay,
a pine cones is on top of a

1020
01:25:30.399 --> 01:25:35.880
glass bottle laying flat on a stump. Okay, that's a once in a

1021
01:25:35.920 --> 01:25:42.760
lifetime thing. And so but yeah, something, you know, stuff these

1022
01:25:42.840 --> 01:25:46.760
roots in there. I doubt that
a field mouse would have tried to have

1023
01:25:47.359 --> 01:25:51.319
done that. I mean he would
have. There wasn't enough in there to

1024
01:25:51.359 --> 01:25:57.840
really make a nest in the sun
shining through a glass bottle. It would

1025
01:25:57.880 --> 01:26:03.359
just bake a little rodent, a
little field mouse, you know. Yeah,

1026
01:26:03.399 --> 01:26:09.880
And so you know, I can't
see it surviving through the through the

1027
01:26:09.920 --> 01:26:14.560
winter, a little field mouse or
something surviving and they're trying to make a

1028
01:26:14.640 --> 01:26:18.119
nest in there and surviving through the
winter. Then let alone in the spring

1029
01:26:18.279 --> 01:26:23.960
and having the sunshine on that.
So somehow, like I say, yeah,

1030
01:26:24.159 --> 01:26:29.279
it was filled with these little little
roots and and then like I say,

1031
01:26:30.600 --> 01:26:34.159
pine cones sitting on top of it. Wild stuff. Oh, Kevin,

1032
01:26:34.640 --> 01:26:42.319
you always have very interesting stories.
If listeners want to hear more that

1033
01:26:42.439 --> 01:26:45.680
are like this, I did interview
Kevin h a few years ago, I

1034
01:26:45.720 --> 01:26:51.039
believe. So you'll want to look
through the the prior episodes and you can

1035
01:26:51.039 --> 01:26:56.239
find that. But Kevin, thank
you so much for calling up and for

1036
01:26:56.560 --> 01:27:00.920
sharing some more stories about what you've
experienced over the years. Yeah. I

1037
01:27:01.039 --> 01:27:04.720
keep getting out there as much as
I can, and then everybody keep getting

1038
01:27:04.720 --> 01:27:11.399
out there and enjoying themselves and be
safe. And thanks for staying in touch

1039
01:27:11.840 --> 01:27:15.840
with me and so great show.
Thank you. Well, you have a

1040
01:27:15.840 --> 01:27:19.439
great night, Kevin. Good chatting
with you, all right, Thank you,

1041
01:27:20.119 --> 01:27:25.880
good night, oh man, wild
stuff. Good good to talk to

1042
01:27:25.960 --> 01:27:29.800
Kevin again. It's been a while
big for society. Who will be right

1043
01:27:29.840 --> 01:27:48.640
back after these messages. Guys,
we got to over two hundred people live

1044
01:27:48.720 --> 01:27:51.359
right now. Thanks to everyone for
being here. I wanted to shout out

1045
01:27:51.359 --> 01:27:55.720
and I don't know if he's still
here, but let me let me look

1046
01:27:55.760 --> 01:27:59.520
in the chat here. Where do
you go? Hey, we got Randy

1047
01:28:00.159 --> 01:28:02.640
from the Sensible Bigfoot Project. Guys, if you like a channel like this,

1048
01:28:02.920 --> 01:28:09.520
and also there's a ton of bigfoot
research videos. Randy is doing some

1049
01:28:09.640 --> 01:28:12.800
great bigfoot research and he also has
some great interviews to you, so make

1050
01:28:12.840 --> 01:28:17.600
sure you follow the Sensible Bigfoot Project. Let's see, I think I had

1051
01:28:17.640 --> 01:28:23.680
one more here, let me check. All right, believe it or not,

1052
01:28:23.800 --> 01:28:27.920
we're getting caught up, but I
think we're going to try to call

1053
01:28:28.119 --> 01:28:32.920
back one more person and watch the
last one I call. This is going

1054
01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:36.560
to be the one where it's going
to be. It's got yeah, we'll

1055
01:28:36.560 --> 01:28:59.079
see fingers crossed. Hello. Hi, this Jeremiah. Hey, this is

1056
01:28:59.159 --> 01:29:04.720
Roger with a Roger. I thought
you went to bed. No, I

1057
01:29:04.760 --> 01:29:12.600
hadn't went to bed yet. Oh
okay, thanks? Oh yeah. Oh

1058
01:29:12.880 --> 01:29:15.439
first off, let me turn this
fan off, y'all, sorry. Should

1059
01:29:15.479 --> 01:29:19.119
we first off? Should we tell
you? Yeah? You can't? All

1060
01:29:19.239 --> 01:29:26.239
right, guys, this is Squatch
and holler hey guys and guys, how

1061
01:29:26.239 --> 01:29:29.720
a y'all doing? First, I
want to congratulate you a little late on

1062
01:29:29.760 --> 01:29:33.600
the getting over the thirty thousand mark. That's that's an agreeable thanks. Man.

1063
01:29:33.680 --> 01:29:39.000
We've been we've been chucked. I
remember I remember the ten thousand when

1064
01:29:39.000 --> 01:29:45.880
that hit. That was a big
deal. But yeah, so uh quickly,

1065
01:29:45.079 --> 01:29:46.920
I was at work and you know, I started a new job and

1066
01:29:46.920 --> 01:29:53.520
I've been kind of busy with that. And how how this lady approached me.

1067
01:29:54.239 --> 01:29:58.479
I'm known hers, she went school
with her, and she was like,

1068
01:29:58.520 --> 01:30:00.119
hey, is that you? Was
that you podcast? And I'm like,

1069
01:30:00.800 --> 01:30:03.279
I thought, whoa? She found
my podcast? Where? Yeah?

1070
01:30:03.359 --> 01:30:09.239
I have you know, no,
somebody posted when you did the when you

1071
01:30:09.279 --> 01:30:15.560
readid you know re released the one
I did last year? Somebody posted it

1072
01:30:15.600 --> 01:30:21.560
on the local Facebook page and I
didn't know it and she and I'm like,

1073
01:30:21.600 --> 01:30:25.000
wait a minute, and what are
you talking about? So she explained,

1074
01:30:25.239 --> 01:30:27.800
I'm like, oh, okay,
I didn't I didn't know it.

1075
01:30:27.800 --> 01:30:33.720
It got there. So she proceeded
to tell me about some strangeness at her

1076
01:30:33.760 --> 01:30:40.000
house. Her dog started bringing bones
of all different animals to the house.

1077
01:30:42.119 --> 01:30:45.720
There's just on the other she owned
several acres, her and my husband,

1078
01:30:45.079 --> 01:30:50.319
and they're acquiring some more there at
the and I'll get the twist here at

1079
01:30:50.319 --> 01:30:57.239
the end. But so she went
over the fence and found a think of

1080
01:30:57.319 --> 01:31:00.760
a shed or something that had a
lot of bones in it. And so,

1081
01:31:01.159 --> 01:31:06.239
you know which that could be anything
at Cody's whatever, And she's been

1082
01:31:06.239 --> 01:31:11.279
hearing sounds. She had a cow
that was killed strangely. I asked her

1083
01:31:11.319 --> 01:31:16.399
several questions about that kill in certain
parts of the body and what they look

1084
01:31:16.560 --> 01:31:20.560
like, and she answered the crict. You know, she didn't know what

1085
01:31:20.600 --> 01:31:28.479
she was answering, but it was
very strange. And so the next day

1086
01:31:30.039 --> 01:31:34.039
I got an email from somebody I
don't know. He explained about some sounds

1087
01:31:34.039 --> 01:31:40.880
he's been hearing strange smells, but
you know whatever, and want me to

1088
01:31:40.920 --> 01:31:45.960
come out and kind of look around. Well, here's the kicker the story

1089
01:31:46.000 --> 01:31:48.680
that you guys heard me tell.
I believe I told it on yours about

1090
01:31:48.760 --> 01:31:51.600
the guy that almost hit the big
foot in the jeep in two thousand and

1091
01:31:51.640 --> 01:31:58.359
eight. It's the same area,
exact same area Bose howls. That's hers

1092
01:31:58.439 --> 01:32:03.720
and the guy that emailed me.
Yes, And so we have a confirmed

1093
01:32:03.720 --> 01:32:08.640
sighting for somebody from somebody I trust. You know, when I told her

1094
01:32:09.079 --> 01:32:12.239
who it was that saw it in
two thousand and eight, she knew into

1095
01:32:12.319 --> 01:32:14.800
she said like, oh my god. I'm like, yes, and that's

1096
01:32:14.920 --> 01:32:20.760
right there where you live. So
well, these two people that contacted me

1097
01:32:20.840 --> 01:32:26.359
are neighbors, yes, and and
it and that you know, they almost

1098
01:32:26.399 --> 01:32:29.439
can throw a rock at each other's
house and hit, you know, hit

1099
01:32:29.520 --> 01:32:32.640
each other. Now, when I
asked her where she lives and she told

1100
01:32:32.680 --> 01:32:35.159
me, I was like, oh
my god. And then when I asked

1101
01:32:35.199 --> 01:32:40.479
him, you know where are you
at? That's exactly where the big male

1102
01:32:40.600 --> 01:32:46.239
was crossing in two thousand and eight. So apparently either you know, that's

1103
01:32:46.279 --> 01:32:49.319
close to us where we do our
you know a little investigations in the North

1104
01:32:49.439 --> 01:32:56.079
End. You know, maybe there's
some that move in that area or whatever.

1105
01:32:56.159 --> 01:33:01.520
But you know, when this was
totally unexpected and because of your show,

1106
01:33:01.680 --> 01:33:09.199
I mean they and somebody pasting it. Now I have an opportunity to

1107
01:33:09.239 --> 01:33:15.079
go look and investigate and maybe put
some of this together and maybe find a

1108
01:33:15.239 --> 01:33:21.239
travel way, whether it's the river
and or train tracks or whatever, and

1109
01:33:21.279 --> 01:33:25.079
see, you know, because I've
got I've been invited by both both people

1110
01:33:25.479 --> 01:33:29.680
really to come and kind of yeah, like look around and the and the

1111
01:33:30.199 --> 01:33:35.720
man he's the older gentleman. He
has access to the big farm there and

1112
01:33:35.720 --> 01:33:40.520
he said he can take me on
to the big farm. And I told

1113
01:33:40.600 --> 01:33:44.640
him about you know, the two
thousand and eight deal and about the farmer

1114
01:33:44.840 --> 01:33:49.880
that you know had seen the thing
twice also, And it's just you know,

1115
01:33:50.520 --> 01:33:55.880
these shows, I mean, y'all
calling in. You never I've said

1116
01:33:55.880 --> 01:33:59.079
this before. You never know who
you're going to influence to going forward.

1117
01:33:59.279 --> 01:34:04.039
You know. Now we've got a
cluster, right, so and I hear

1118
01:34:04.079 --> 01:34:11.359
that's a good thing, but it's
it's it's more people stepping forward. And

1119
01:34:11.520 --> 01:34:17.159
it just blew me away, you
know. It's it's so now I'm wondering

1120
01:34:17.439 --> 01:34:25.560
how many people in the area have
had strange happenings because the cow, the

1121
01:34:25.640 --> 01:34:31.319
cow didn't trip and break its legs. It didn't. It was it was

1122
01:34:31.399 --> 01:34:35.840
hung the way she explained it,
it was hung up in the fence,

1123
01:34:36.199 --> 01:34:41.960
not like it jumped from the other
property to her property and got hung up.

1124
01:34:42.960 --> 01:34:45.800
It was hung up in the fence, like being dragged from her property

1125
01:34:45.840 --> 01:34:50.239
to the other property. Does that
make sense. That's that's a whole other

1126
01:34:50.359 --> 01:34:54.399
level, you know. And and
it was being dragged by the tail we

1127
01:34:54.479 --> 01:34:59.000
know that, and a leg and
apparently it got they got hung. And

1128
01:34:59.399 --> 01:35:01.680
I don't know, Jeremia, it's
just you know, and I know had

1129
01:35:01.760 --> 01:35:06.640
my experience, and it's been a
little crazy. I've had to take a

1130
01:35:06.680 --> 01:35:11.039
little bit of time away from this. And two this time of year,

1131
01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:15.720
what we found here with the high
humidity then that heat, we don't have

1132
01:35:15.000 --> 01:35:17.640
a lot of action, you know, even in night a lot of times.

1133
01:35:17.680 --> 01:35:21.680
So I don't know whether they you
know what I'm saying, like in

1134
01:35:23.079 --> 01:35:28.720
talking in like we know for sure. But for those of you that are

1135
01:35:28.720 --> 01:35:31.520
listening that hadn't heard my story,
I actually saw one when I was fourteen.

1136
01:35:31.600 --> 01:35:35.880
So I'm not trying to figure out
if it exists. I'm way past

1137
01:35:35.960 --> 01:35:40.920
that and I'm not trying to prove
it exists, you know, But when

1138
01:35:40.960 --> 01:35:45.680
you get I don't care how much
you do this, when you get a

1139
01:35:45.680 --> 01:35:53.399
witness or when you get evidence,
it's still shocking and I don't know if

1140
01:35:53.560 --> 01:36:00.199
everyone will not be but it's exciting, you know, to have these people

1141
01:36:00.239 --> 01:36:03.479
step forward and none of them have
anything to gain. That's what you look

1142
01:36:03.520 --> 01:36:08.399
at that she didn't, you know, she didn't come to me and say,

1143
01:36:08.439 --> 01:36:11.520
hey, I want to be on
your show. She was like,

1144
01:36:11.520 --> 01:36:14.439
hey, I heard you talking,
and I'm like, well, what got

1145
01:36:14.479 --> 01:36:17.239
you into this? Well, we've
had some strange things happening, and I,

1146
01:36:17.399 --> 01:36:19.479
you know, I started looking and
I found you know, it's just

1147
01:36:19.520 --> 01:36:24.359
like everybody else. You start looking
on the internet, and I think the

1148
01:36:24.359 --> 01:36:29.640
first time I ever did it,
it was like google Bigfoot in Tennessee,

1149
01:36:29.800 --> 01:36:32.199
you know, and then things start
popping up. People google their area.

1150
01:36:32.520 --> 01:36:39.159
And so now that you know,
I did your show last year, and

1151
01:36:39.319 --> 01:36:42.319
you know, you have Marshall County, Tennessee, and there's been a lot

1152
01:36:42.359 --> 01:36:48.399
of people that have contacted me or
come forward to other shows because of me

1153
01:36:48.560 --> 01:36:54.119
finally stepping forward and putting going out
on the limb and talking about what happened

1154
01:36:54.159 --> 01:36:58.439
to me. And there's countless of
people. So so you guys, when

1155
01:36:58.439 --> 01:37:01.039
you I was listening early here and
you call it and say, well,

1156
01:37:01.319 --> 01:37:04.039
now this is what happened to me, and it wasn't that big of a

1157
01:37:04.119 --> 01:37:06.760
deal. You know, I saw
this, I saw that, well it

1158
01:37:06.760 --> 01:37:11.199
may be a big deal to somebody
close to you in your area to hear

1159
01:37:11.239 --> 01:37:15.239
that. So keep keep telling your
stories, keep coming out, and and

1160
01:37:15.960 --> 01:37:19.119
it just it just builds. It's
snowballs. And a year and a half

1161
01:37:19.119 --> 01:37:25.159
ago, I was nervous talking on
your show one hundred miles an hour,

1162
01:37:27.159 --> 01:37:31.680
and then now and now it's like
people are contacting me and I'm like,

1163
01:37:31.720 --> 01:37:34.560
look, I'm not an expert,
but I know a little bit, you

1164
01:37:34.600 --> 01:37:40.439
know, and I can get you
help. But it's amazing and people are

1165
01:37:40.479 --> 01:37:43.920
not afraid anymore. It's just you
know, and I kind of with this

1166
01:37:44.239 --> 01:37:46.760
all right, and with this new
job, I'm like, you know,

1167
01:37:46.840 --> 01:37:50.399
I'm not I'm not like, hey, I'm gonna look for bigfoot and I've

1168
01:37:50.399 --> 01:37:55.359
seen one and I kind of approached. I'm like, oh, definite,

1169
01:37:55.920 --> 01:38:00.399
but but but no, it's it's
been a positive thing, uh. People.

1170
01:38:00.800 --> 01:38:05.760
One lady overheard the conversation. A
little while later, she came to

1171
01:38:05.800 --> 01:38:11.399
me. It wasn't anything about bigfoot, but it was about ghosts and some

1172
01:38:11.439 --> 01:38:15.760
strange, strange things she's had happened. And I think we all need people

1173
01:38:15.760 --> 01:38:18.680
to talk to, you know,
listen. So it's a good thing you're

1174
01:38:18.720 --> 01:38:23.479
doing. Man. I just I
appreciate it. I'll always, you know,

1175
01:38:23.600 --> 01:38:29.039
appreciate what you did for me.
And it was it's it's grown,

1176
01:38:29.159 --> 01:38:33.319
and you know, like so from
last year and I'm not you know,

1177
01:38:33.359 --> 01:38:36.880
I'm not here to I'm not gonna
make a living at it or whatever.

1178
01:38:38.000 --> 01:38:43.600
I enjoyed learning and I enjoy the
stories, and I got invited. I

1179
01:38:43.640 --> 01:38:49.439
think it's August. I think it's
all this tent hold on. If any

1180
01:38:49.479 --> 01:38:54.560
of you guys are in the gals
are in the Eastern Tennessee, Georgia,

1181
01:38:55.760 --> 01:39:00.800
I think Tennessee, while man in
Crypticon Minimal, Tennessee. I think it's

1182
01:39:00.880 --> 01:39:04.239
Saturday, August tenth. I'll be
there. I'm not gonna be selling anything.

1183
01:39:04.359 --> 01:39:08.840
I'll have you know, table set
up, just I just want to

1184
01:39:08.880 --> 01:39:15.319
meet people, you know, and
you know, you share your stories if

1185
01:39:15.319 --> 01:39:18.840
you want to keep it confidential that
I'm all about that too, But stop

1186
01:39:18.840 --> 01:39:24.319
by and say hey, I mean
that's and if you have questions, I

1187
01:39:24.399 --> 01:39:26.920
might can point you in the direction, you know, to talk to somebody

1188
01:39:27.039 --> 01:39:31.760
or whatever. But it's just been
a wild ride and I really appreciate you

1189
01:39:31.800 --> 01:39:35.199
and you know, bigfit society,
and I don't think you really I think

1190
01:39:35.239 --> 01:39:39.960
you do realize in a way,
but I don't think you really get it

1191
01:39:40.079 --> 01:39:44.720
of how you're influencing people to talk
to each other, you know, so,

1192
01:39:45.079 --> 01:39:49.560
but I appreciate appreciate that, and
guys and people. I'm sure a

1193
01:39:49.560 --> 01:39:53.840
lot of people will be listening to
this. So if you have stuff that

1194
01:39:53.960 --> 01:39:57.359
you've experienced in Marshall County, like, you can reach out to me.

1195
01:39:58.279 --> 01:40:01.600
But you really need to reach out
to Roger because it's important that a person

1196
01:40:01.680 --> 01:40:06.520
that's in the area and that is
collecting all the reports has all the reports.

1197
01:40:08.119 --> 01:40:12.039
So Roger, can you share if
there's a way for people listening to

1198
01:40:12.159 --> 01:40:16.039
contact you? Yeah, just you
know, it's the same as my little

1199
01:40:16.079 --> 01:40:24.640
YouTube channels at squatching holler at gmail
dot com and you send me an email

1200
01:40:25.239 --> 01:40:29.279
And I also have a PO box. Send me an email if you we

1201
01:40:29.319 --> 01:40:31.880
can correspond through that or whatever.
Also, I got that set up.

1202
01:40:33.640 --> 01:40:38.720
And because I know some people are
older folks, like I'm getting to be

1203
01:40:38.920 --> 01:40:43.319
in their snail mail type folks.
That's cool. I mean I've received some

1204
01:40:43.520 --> 01:40:49.840
awesome letters and notes and how do
you really stuff you've dude, I have

1205
01:40:49.880 --> 01:40:54.000
a PO box. I need to
throw that out there too, put it,

1206
01:40:54.079 --> 01:40:57.079
throw it out there because you have
that. Right now, you have

1207
01:40:57.159 --> 01:41:00.359
older people that do not. They've
got to just their Bok phone, they've

1208
01:41:00.359 --> 01:41:03.840
got whatever, they're listening to it
on their grandkids tablet. They don't know

1209
01:41:03.840 --> 01:41:08.239
how to email. Put your peel
box out there and they will handwrite you

1210
01:41:08.359 --> 01:41:11.960
letters. I promise, such a
good idea, right, and it's amazing.

1211
01:41:12.319 --> 01:41:16.119
It's amazing to open up and just
and somebody that took the time to

1212
01:41:17.000 --> 01:41:23.439
you know, write out you know
whatever. And it's just I never expected

1213
01:41:23.439 --> 01:41:26.880
it. I didn't get into this. I got into this to get it

1214
01:41:26.920 --> 01:41:29.600
off of my back. And then
when I got it off my back,

1215
01:41:30.560 --> 01:41:32.119
I wanted to learn as much as
I could. And when I want it

1216
01:41:32.119 --> 01:41:35.199
down, I started that. I
started meeting people, talking to people,

1217
01:41:35.920 --> 01:41:40.239
and I'm like, you know what, I can do this little show things.

1218
01:41:40.279 --> 01:41:45.760
I can figure out the Internet.
And it's been a blast and we've

1219
01:41:45.760 --> 01:41:49.319
had so much fun with it,
and we've been scared out of our There's

1220
01:41:49.319 --> 01:41:55.439
been things happening that sometimes I'm like, man, should I keep going down

1221
01:41:55.439 --> 01:41:58.920
this road because I mean, maybe
pushing it a little bit? You know,

1222
01:42:00.960 --> 01:42:05.079
I'm not that yes, but it's
it's it's no. And I know

1223
01:42:05.119 --> 01:42:10.720
I sound like I'm gushing, but
I you know, I don't take up

1224
01:42:10.720 --> 01:42:15.279
a lot of your time, but
I just want to encourage everybody to share,

1225
01:42:15.640 --> 01:42:18.880
you know. And you know with
me, I do, I have

1226
01:42:18.920 --> 01:42:23.079
a show, I do a few
lives. I've taken a break because of

1227
01:42:23.119 --> 01:42:28.159
your job. And but Jeremiah is
gonna be there. He's there. He's

1228
01:42:28.199 --> 01:42:32.199
the hardest working guy and in this
in the podcast business and big Foot especially,

1229
01:42:33.000 --> 01:42:38.920
and reach out to him. I
mean, you never know who's listening

1230
01:42:39.000 --> 01:42:42.800
and who you're going to inspire to
to get that off their back. And

1231
01:42:42.840 --> 01:42:47.399
it's a great feeling. I told
my story only a dozen times and and

1232
01:42:47.399 --> 01:42:50.520
and I'm not that I'm bored of
telling my story, but I will tell

1233
01:42:50.560 --> 01:42:56.840
it to anybody that wants to listen, because I know, I know what

1234
01:42:56.880 --> 01:43:01.399
you've been through and and here we
So the only thing I know about Bigfoot

1235
01:43:01.439 --> 01:43:06.720
that I actually know is what I've
experienced. So I, you know,

1236
01:43:08.119 --> 01:43:12.279
I want to learn from everybody and
what I can. So maybe when if

1237
01:43:12.319 --> 01:43:15.960
another opportunity arises, I'm ready for
it, you know. And uh,

1238
01:43:18.479 --> 01:43:23.560
and that's what that's just the nature
of this, because you know, we

1239
01:43:23.640 --> 01:43:27.439
speculate all the time. We'll sit
around and talk and I wonder about this,

1240
01:43:27.560 --> 01:43:30.479
and I wonder why this is and
and I'm going to tell you now

1241
01:43:30.479 --> 01:43:34.119
I've said it before. You have
different people around the country that you have.

1242
01:43:34.560 --> 01:43:38.279
I have an experience of some kind, and somebody else does, and

1243
01:43:38.880 --> 01:43:43.960
well, this is what they do
well, and and people choose sides big

1244
01:43:44.039 --> 01:44:01.920
for society. Who will be right
back after these messages? H Well,

1245
01:44:02.640 --> 01:44:06.880
my thinking is, maybe what if
everybody's a little bit right, If you

1246
01:44:08.119 --> 01:44:12.079
don't talk to each other, then
you're not gonna solve anything, right,

1247
01:44:12.239 --> 01:44:17.239
So you know, have your opinions, and I'm fluid with mine. You

1248
01:44:17.279 --> 01:44:20.079
know, if I talk, if
Jeremiah goes out, if you go out

1249
01:44:20.840 --> 01:44:26.680
and you and Tate and y'all go
do a documentary or whatever. Tater,

1250
01:44:28.520 --> 01:44:34.960
I'll meet him one day, but
but he's But if you go out,

1251
01:44:35.000 --> 01:44:39.800
you guys, go out and have
an experience and and then you know,

1252
01:44:39.840 --> 01:44:45.720
you relay it to everybody through the
through YouTube and whatever documentary. That's that's

1253
01:44:45.760 --> 01:44:49.439
as good as gold to me because
I know you guys, the way you

1254
01:44:49.439 --> 01:44:51.600
think things through. You know what
I mean, You're not going to let

1255
01:44:51.680 --> 01:44:57.279
oh everything's a big foot, everything's
this or that, So uh, guys,

1256
01:44:57.319 --> 01:45:00.000
just just keep doing what you're doing. Man. I mean, thirty

1257
01:45:00.159 --> 01:45:03.880
thousand is amazing, but I know
I can see a hundred thousand coming and

1258
01:45:04.479 --> 01:45:08.399
maybe a visit on Joe Rogan or
something. You know, I'm not heard

1259
01:45:08.479 --> 01:45:14.239
about that, Roger, stop it, did I did? I have this

1260
01:45:14.279 --> 01:45:18.720
conversation with you a little bit where
I like, I wake up in the

1261
01:45:19.640 --> 01:45:24.720
I wake up at night with a
panic attack that it's going to happen,

1262
01:45:25.279 --> 01:45:32.039
Like I literally up know that.
I it's a it's a panic attack for

1263
01:45:32.119 --> 01:45:38.720
me. So don't say that into
reality. Hey, just a quick editor's

1264
01:45:38.760 --> 01:45:42.520
note here. What I'm referring to
is that I wake up in the middle

1265
01:45:42.520 --> 01:45:45.640
of the night freaking out about the
possibility of going on the Joe Rogan Show

1266
01:45:46.239 --> 01:45:51.359
in the future. It's just a
weird thing that I freak out about.

1267
01:45:51.399 --> 01:45:56.319
Not to say I've ever been contacted, but I just have a feeling and

1268
01:45:56.399 --> 01:46:03.479
it would be weird. And ways, it's weird that Roger brought that up.

1269
01:46:04.479 --> 01:46:09.760
Weird synchronicity. Anyways, let's get
back to it. You bringing in,

1270
01:46:09.880 --> 01:46:14.800
Yeah, you bringing in and look
y'all, yeah, I love I

1271
01:46:15.000 --> 01:46:18.359
take this subject seriously, but man, I loved ow fun too, And

1272
01:46:18.760 --> 01:46:23.680
it's the people that I've met here
now from all over. Really, you

1273
01:46:23.680 --> 01:46:27.399
know, I've met a lot of
people, and most of them there are

1274
01:46:27.439 --> 01:46:30.880
some people that you know, in
all walks of life, take themselves a

1275
01:46:30.920 --> 01:46:36.640
little too seriously. But some of
those people, how kind of put it

1276
01:46:36.720 --> 01:46:41.159
there. I said it one time
where I heard a guy that had a

1277
01:46:41.199 --> 01:46:44.760
pH d. And he was,
well, I'm not going to talk to

1278
01:46:44.880 --> 01:46:48.159
the redneckd little amongst them, and
blah blah blah. They say this,

1279
01:46:48.279 --> 01:46:51.640
and they say that, well,
you know, the burning bridges to this

1280
01:46:51.720 --> 01:46:56.840
thing they're seeking. Yeah, you
know, because I know some people like

1281
01:46:56.880 --> 01:47:00.560
that that I've had some crazy experience. I found some of the my best

1282
01:47:00.640 --> 01:47:08.239
evidence with those people. I mean, they're and they're hard to break into

1283
01:47:08.439 --> 01:47:13.760
their circle. They have to trust
you and me. You know, I'm

1284
01:47:13.800 --> 01:47:16.840
just I never meet a stranger.
And if somebody tells me, Roger,

1285
01:47:17.079 --> 01:47:20.640
I'm gonna tell you something, do
not tell this. It stays between us.

1286
01:47:21.000 --> 01:47:27.680
You got to earn that trust of
stuff I get told never gets on

1287
01:47:27.720 --> 01:47:30.119
the podcast. Man, It's crazy, it's crazy, right, like something

1288
01:47:30.159 --> 01:47:34.560
stuff. You know, I've seen
some pictures y'all. Oh my god,

1289
01:47:36.479 --> 01:47:41.880
I'm not gonna say, I'm not
going to mention anything. I'm not gonna

1290
01:47:41.920 --> 01:47:48.319
but Jeremiah know, something happened close
to me in the past week and I

1291
01:47:48.399 --> 01:47:53.319
was a little bit involved with it. And but what it taught me was

1292
01:47:53.680 --> 01:47:56.720
I posted something for somebody, for
a friend to help out his business,

1293
01:47:58.479 --> 01:48:01.079
and it little up on TikTok.
It got about one hundred and thirty.

1294
01:48:01.119 --> 01:48:04.800
It was getting about five thousand views
every five ten minutes, and I shut

1295
01:48:04.840 --> 01:48:11.640
it down because because people I had
a legit picture. It's not Bigfoot had

1296
01:48:11.640 --> 01:48:16.520
a legit picture, and half the
people are saying, that's a photo shop.

1297
01:48:17.399 --> 01:48:19.520
I mean this sky I note all
my life, you know, and

1298
01:48:19.960 --> 01:48:24.600
it's photoshopped and that's not this person. And I'm like, what in the

1299
01:48:24.600 --> 01:48:28.720
world's going on? And then I
realized it's now y'all. I'm not saying

1300
01:48:28.800 --> 01:48:30.800
go out and hunt a big foot
and kill it, but it's going to

1301
01:48:30.840 --> 01:48:35.479
take a scientist with a body,
absolutely right, And then when that happens,

1302
01:48:35.520 --> 01:48:40.039
you're going to have people that don't
believe that. So I that kind

1303
01:48:40.039 --> 01:48:44.760
of taught me a lesson. If
I do find more footprints or whatever,

1304
01:48:44.840 --> 01:48:46.800
I will share it, but I
don't expect anything out of it. I

1305
01:48:46.840 --> 01:48:53.960
had a discussion with a long time
researcher a couple of weeks ago, and

1306
01:48:54.000 --> 01:48:56.439
he's a Roger. He said,
I found this evidence, and I found

1307
01:48:56.439 --> 01:48:59.800
that evidence, and I put it
out there, he said, and I

1308
01:48:59.880 --> 01:49:03.000
was expecting a lot of people to
be in and I've seen it and it's

1309
01:49:03.039 --> 01:49:11.000
pretty amazing. And he said,
it's crickets. Nobody cares. These said.

1310
01:49:11.000 --> 01:49:14.800
People are so distrusting nowadays because of
AI and all these you know,

1311
01:49:15.159 --> 01:49:18.039
things they see in movies. He
said, this, this is legit.

1312
01:49:18.119 --> 01:49:24.439
I had five people with me and
I've watched the video and it's pretty amazing.

1313
01:49:24.600 --> 01:49:30.199
And it's not that they don't care. They don't trust it. So

1314
01:49:30.479 --> 01:49:32.319
I don't know what it's going to
take. So just go out and have

1315
01:49:32.479 --> 01:49:36.159
fun. You guys, talk to
each other and you know it's real,

1316
01:49:38.359 --> 01:49:45.000
but don't don't expect. I don't
know. I don't know. If somebody

1317
01:49:45.159 --> 01:49:47.560
drove up on the Courthouse Square with
a with a body, I mean,

1318
01:49:48.600 --> 01:49:54.920
would people believe it? Then well, look, my buddy, you know

1319
01:49:54.920 --> 01:49:58.640
in two thousand and eight almost hit
one. Yeah, if Eric would have

1320
01:49:58.640 --> 01:50:01.520
just swerved at that thing. Wow, this this conversation wul't be happening.

1321
01:50:01.520 --> 01:50:09.199
But no, but but I don't
know, thank you, just I appreciate

1322
01:50:09.199 --> 01:50:14.880
everything you do. Take and the
gentleman on earlier, everybody, everybody that

1323
01:50:15.000 --> 01:50:19.159
shared their stories, keep doing it. Don't don't let don't let the nay

1324
01:50:19.159 --> 01:50:26.000
says he Here's where I'm at right
now, when I'm talking about something that

1325
01:50:26.119 --> 01:50:30.560
somebody asked me about, and I'm
trying to help them with what I know

1326
01:50:30.960 --> 01:50:33.159
and what i've heard and what I've
learned and what I think might be true

1327
01:50:34.239 --> 01:50:39.680
with an open mind. And then
somebody that's not in the conversation, they'll

1328
01:50:39.720 --> 01:50:43.560
lie or they'll they'll say something.
I just kind of look at them,

1329
01:50:43.560 --> 01:50:47.199
like, you know, I'm in
a different situation now, I'm more confident,

1330
01:50:47.359 --> 01:50:51.560
and that person is the one that's
uneducated about it. Right. So

1331
01:50:53.279 --> 01:50:59.720
when some when people have when you
tell some somebody something that scares them,

1332
01:50:59.760 --> 01:51:02.279
whatever it is, usually the first
reaction is to kind of laugh it off.

1333
01:51:03.000 --> 01:51:06.359
And and so I don't even get
upset anymore, you know, I'm

1334
01:51:06.399 --> 01:51:11.760
like, you know, okay,
I mean, you know, my son,

1335
01:51:12.000 --> 01:51:15.800
y'all, he's so funny. I
can't get him to do mini podcasts.

1336
01:51:16.920 --> 01:51:21.680
I found a hat today that was, uh it looked like crocodile dundee

1337
01:51:21.760 --> 01:51:26.760
kind of sort of made in Australia
at a thrift store. I bought it,

1338
01:51:26.880 --> 01:51:29.119
had it on there and everybody's like, oh, that's cool, that's

1339
01:51:29.159 --> 01:51:32.479
cool. My son posts under its
like he said, crocodi sas squats dumb

1340
01:51:32.720 --> 01:51:42.359
d You know you gotta laugh at
the right. So all right, I

1341
01:51:42.399 --> 01:51:48.039
don't take up all your time,
ye man, Yes, sir, anytime.

1342
01:51:48.399 --> 01:51:53.840
Y'all have a great weekend, and
uh, you know, come see

1343
01:51:53.880 --> 01:51:58.800
me in August at at that in
Tullahoma, and you know, stop by

1344
01:51:59.279 --> 01:52:02.399
uh squatching. There's plenty of videos
and there's a lot of evidence here and

1345
01:52:02.479 --> 01:52:08.039
there, and just just check everybody
out, you know, some of these

1346
01:52:08.119 --> 01:52:14.800
small shows or some really good shows. Anyway, Thanks sir Roger, thank

1347
01:52:14.840 --> 01:52:21.039
you. All right, bye bye
guys. We have had a wild night.

1348
01:52:21.119 --> 01:52:28.880
We're back at it. We are
back at it again, so we

1349
01:52:28.920 --> 01:52:39.000
are going to be hold on in
the last few minutes. I just want

1350
01:52:39.000 --> 01:52:42.000
to share a few things. If
you have a big Foot encounter and you

1351
01:52:42.000 --> 01:52:45.279
didn't want to call into the show, you can always email me directly at

1352
01:52:45.279 --> 01:52:49.279
Big for Society at gmail dot com. If you want to join the Big

1353
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For Society community you can. One
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1354
01:52:54.920 --> 01:52:58.079
You can get the extra shows by
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1355
01:52:58.560 --> 01:53:02.880
If you want to get into a
community, there's a little bit more involvement

1356
01:53:02.960 --> 01:53:06.479
over on Patreon, Patreon dot com, forward Slash the big Foot Society.

1357
01:53:06.560 --> 01:53:13.359
You get a new episode every week
and we get to hang out on Google

1358
01:53:13.399 --> 01:53:15.000
Hangouts. At the end of the
month. We do all sorts of fun

1359
01:53:15.039 --> 01:53:19.239
stuff. We do a watch party
where we watch a Bigfoot movie every month.

1360
01:53:19.319 --> 01:53:23.039
It's a good time. So check
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1361
01:53:23.039 --> 01:53:30.479
big Foot Society. We hope to
see you there. Frank's pobox Yeah,

1362
01:53:30.560 --> 01:53:34.039
I will have to post that later. Frank, I do not have it.

1363
01:53:35.520 --> 01:53:40.560
I will start putting that in future
shows though. Thank you. Let's

1364
01:53:40.600 --> 01:53:46.119
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1367
01:53:57.800 --> 01:54:02.560
be there next weekend in Canton,
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1368
01:54:02.640 --> 01:54:08.199
If you are there and you see
me, please come up and introduce yourself

1369
01:54:08.239 --> 01:54:12.199
to me. I'll be the guy
wearing the yellow shirt that says I collect

1370
01:54:12.239 --> 01:54:15.239
Bigfoot stories with my phone number on
it. Not even kidding. I had

1371
01:54:15.319 --> 01:54:18.560
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and it's amazing. All right. I

1372
01:54:18.560 --> 01:54:23.479
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1373
01:54:23.520 --> 01:54:28.279
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1374
01:54:28.439 --> 01:54:32.279
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1375
01:54:32.279 --> 01:54:39.319
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1376
01:54:40.279 --> 01:54:45.319
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1377
01:54:45.520 --> 01:54:48.159
I will be in Canton and there'll
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1378
01:54:48.239 --> 01:54:54.399
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1379
01:54:54.760 --> 01:54:58.279
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1385
01:55:19.720 --> 01:55:25.840
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1386
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1387
01:55:30.359 --> 01:55:33.720
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1388
01:55:33.800 --> 01:55:39.880
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1389
01:55:40.359 --> 01:55:43.520
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1390
01:55:44.159 --> 01:55:47.399
interview people that have had bigfoot encounters. If you're from the Oakridge, Oregon

1391
01:55:47.520 --> 01:55:53.359
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1392
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1400
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big Foot Society. I'll see you
there and again, thanks for listening.

1401
01:57:25.960 --> 01:57:28.680
Her and I can get out here, we can tell our stories. Maybe

1402
01:57:28.680 --> 01:57:32.119
there's somebody else out there listening it's
too afraid to tell their story. Maybe

1403
01:57:32.159 --> 01:57:35.439
this will give them the courage to
come out. And now it feels so

1404
01:57:35.600 --> 01:57:40.239
bad about it. Who cares what
anybody thinks. I know what I saw,

1405
01:57:40.720 --> 01:58:00.439
I know what's out there. That's
all I care about. Please people

1406
01:58:00.520 --> 01:58:04.159
know, Please let them know.
If you ever see one of these things,

1407
01:58:04.600 --> 01:58:09.399
you need to tell because if you
don't, then shame on you,

1408
01:58:09.760 --> 01:58:18.640
you know, shame on you