Bigfoot Sighting Updates from Marshall County, Tennessee and MORE! / CALL-IN SHOW

0:00 Welcome to Big for Society. If you have Bigfoot activity to report from the same area as discussed in this episode, please reach out to me directly after this episode. And if you'd like to be on the podcast to discuss a personal Bigfoot encounter, please reach out to me directly at Big for Society at gmail dot com. Do you wish there was more Big for Society to listen to you every week? Well there is now. If you become a supporting member over at Patreon, you get a special members only episode every single week on Wednesdays, and sometimes even more episodes. Head on over to patreon dot com. Forward slash the Big for Society, And now let's get on with the show. All right, let's see who we've got Yello. Hey, this is Jeremiah. Hey Jeremie. Ken, how are you doing that?

0:57 Hey? Ken? How's it going? All right? Let's let's hold on a minute here, Ken, we gotta peak, Okay, Laura can hear you? All right? Well, Kevin, thanks for calling in. It's good to talk to you again. It's been a while since we last talked about what's going on up there in Montana, but is there any updates that you can let us know of what's going on there. Ken. Yes, we just come out of the swan. We're in there eleven days this spring, Christopher's raining and everything. I said Jeremiah. Thermal images of video that was captured one hundred yards from it went to an analyst. They don't know what it is. It's not a bear. The heat signature is too great to be a heat signature from a tree. They're estimate moreever's standing there's ten ten eleven foot tall and in the video they sawed down it appears to be peaking good. The two guys by the fire, the one all come about is he swung I have a handheld throne imaging in it and he just swung it around and picked it up and started recording both our video and photograph.

2:15 We don't know what it is. All we know is is a large creature standing there. Well up there. We did recover more scap and I don't like a hairball. Now. Scat and the hairball have been sent out to the four A DNA lab I've used before. I probably won't hear anything about them for a month, maybe to three months. They're really busy right now now. The night before we left at about three o'clock in the morning, there was one real loud vocalization about sixty yards from camp. I had made the mistake, and I pulled all the trail cans because all it had been doing was rain and real heavy, big mistake on my part. The night before he left, for the first time ever, something was thrown at the motorhome that has never happened before in the four years we've been going up there.

3:21 So what it was, I don't know. Nobody was awake, nobody was up, so something to me was warning to leave, just like what happened over to Ido that we had talked about on your one year podcast. I did tear the camp down and left, and I will be returning pardon about a week two weeks back to the same area. I'm going to do a tenth cap in there for about four days and I'm going to see what happens. I'll be putting off the trail camps and everything. I've got to chest to talk to more of the locals about their sightings a bigfoots on their property driving the log and roads for firewood. One approached us. He wouldn't tell me exactly where or who because it was an old man, it's kind of being confidentiality on that one, which I fully understand. This area is very very active. I received a call three days ago they've seen bigfoot walk along the highway and in the area that we do our base camp during the swan. So that's about it right now. Jeremi has just been planning to go and then I'm headed over eastern Montana to Wolf Creek and that's south of Great Falls in Great Fault and Helena. There's some first reports over there,

4:55 so I'm going to be meeting two of my members stick over with me. I'll be going into Rogers Fast down there to set up a base camp. So that's pretty much the update right now. I will let you know, Jeremiah when I get those libraries. Also, that's scat and that popped up hairball, I guess you want to call it. Yeah, the hairball did not look like any think a cat or a dog would have coughed up the hair well, yeah, it's it's totally different. Yes, And you know I've got it frozen that alongside the other one. Mm hm, oh yeah, I know. Yeah. It's been a while since we talked, but I'm remembering now. Oh man, this is. Oh, it's such, It's so good to talk to you again. Ken, Remind me how long you've been researching that area for again? Oh? Four years? Four years?

5:56 That's right. Yeah, And guys, just to make sure everyone on the same page. This as Ken Medzker. He is with the Montana and Idaho Bigfoot Research Group on Facebook. And I've talked to Ken about two times on big for Society. This was about a year or so ago. So yeah, you can go ahead and check out those episodes if you'd like to hear more about what Ken has been up to in the past. But did you say you were going to be tent camping, Ken? Yeah, I want to do dent camp this time. Oh man, have you ever done that before in that area? No? My kids say I'm being dumb about doing it, but I feel in a way I have to make amends.

6:45 So I don't want to take the motor home. And there's a particular spot I want to put the Ken out. Now, the tent will have looking away solar powered motion detectors. Now there's three lights or seventy two LEDs and those three lights. Whatever, anything that triggers that, I will get that on video or photos. In color. Plus I'll have my trail camp to that little campfire. I'm gonna try it. I don't mind going alone as I kind of enjoy it. I don't have to get aggravated by people that come. But this would be the first time I'm actually going to go in with the camp wow and to see what happens. Can you got you gotta tell me what happens after you, because man, four days tent camping in this area is going to get wild. I absolutely know it's going to get wild. Dude. I hope you're ready. Oh I'm ready. Don't worry.

7:47 I don't have to change of clothes with me, if you know what I mean. Oh yeah, No, I hear you. I hear you. Oh man, dude, I'm so uh. I'm glad that you were able to call in give us a little update. It sounds like things are getting wild in the Swan Mountain area. It is. It's just it's probably one of the most active aeries right now in western Montana. But the reports on getting and we are getting reports out of the xpoll and that's up out the Yack River. Okay, so that may be an area and they head into you later it's the motor home and that to do a base camp.

8:28 It's just trying to decide where to go. And then probably now it's the most current reports, that's where I want to go. Absolutely and not so. But yeah, we've been into the swan now four years, at least twice a year. Yep. Yeah, guys, you need to make sure if you're interested in what Ken has been sharing, make sure you go over to the Montana and Idaho Bigfoot Research group on Facebook and make sure you join that if you're interested. There's some really cool stuff that's shared in that group. Yeah. Yeah, and make sure you answer the questions that you join. My moderators and that are really particular about that kind of stuff, which has really been good. Also on the group side is the audio I just stopped then recording. We put the link on. I sent you Jeremi that link. Okay to that audio. It's an hour long. Oh wow, basically me talking how I started, why I started the group, my encounters, how I do my field research and all that. That's great. Yeah, definitely definitely check that out. Hmmm. Yeah, good stuff. Ken.

9:43 Please stay in touch with what's what's coming up. I will and yeah, yeah, I will, Jeremiah, you never know the audible. We need to talk absolutely. Hey, I'm ready. I'm ready to go. You just let me know. So. Yeah, well doing, I'll pay you. It was nice meeting you all. I'm gonna get off. I gotta take some medications. Yeaes sir, you guys take care of god blet. Everybody'd be safe. Thanks for calling. Ken, You're bad all right, Ken Metzger great guy, big for society. Will be right back after these messages. Oh my goodness, we have people calling in. Hello.

10:45 Hey, this is Jeremiah. What's going on, man, Joe? It is Joe. What's up? Have you been buddy, dude? I've been doing good. Thank you for calling in, Joe. Guys, this is Joe Purdue from Wild and Weird at West Virginia. Correct. Yes, among other things. That's true. Man. You guys are starting to do all sorts of stuff now. I'm excited to see what's coming up next. Yeah, we've uh, we've got a lot going on in the bag there. You know, there's a lot of stuff that I can't quite talk about. But we do have a show coming up if anybody's interested in it. From Small Town Monsters called Paranormal Horizons, and we're gonna be covering topics from bigfoot to UFOs, aliens, contact, hauntings, you name it, if it's if it's strange and unusual, we're gonna take a look. I'm excited.

11:39 I'm excited. Uh. I think I'm gonna be seeing you next weekend over at Monsterfest. Right, yeah, man, we can't wait. I'm excited to see you and and all these other folks that we normally only get a chance to see like once a year at some random off show. And uh, but it's really cool. We're gonna be at Monsterfest and can't Ohio next week You'll be there, will be there. Anybody who's cool is going to be there. So you know, you definitely, if you have the ability to get out to Canton, Ohio, I want to do that next weekend. Tickets are still available over at small Town Monsters dot com. You'd almost think like, I'm a professional sales pitch guy. You're really good, aren't you guys doing a You're doing something at monster Fest too, right? Yeah, we're doing a workshop because we do all kinds of workshops like that.

12:33 We host and we have folks come out to those and we teach you basically how to do the thing, whether it's bigfoot research, paranormal research, looking into the UFO phenomena, and essentially it's like a whole day intensive when we do those. And this time, you know, we're going to be doing one of these kind of like in a reduced fashion. You get to have us for an hour and then come hang out with us and talk to us the rest of the day and pick our brains. But we're gonna be doing an equipment demonstration to kind of show folks the kind of equipment we take out into the field, what it's used for, why it works, what it does, and what we're using it for. Nice dude, I'm excited for that. There's some great workshops that are going to be at Monsterfest. I'm glad they're doing starting to do that. I'm going to be doing a live podcast there. I'll have Justin from Cryptids of the Corn as my guest for that. It'll be a good time. It'll be great. So I know you've got the show coming up, and there's obviously you've got stuff that's going to be in the show, But can you give us any updates maybe about what what you guys have been up to Boise. Yeah, you know, there's there's so much big filt wise that you can't really cram it all into a show like that. That's it's encompassing everything. So you get to do a couple of episodes here in here, and you you cherry pick some of your best data and then you go into those areas and hope for the best.

14:07 But man, Wineberry. If anybody who's familiar with Wild Weird Radio and the Wild Muard West Virginia and what we do, then you've seen our videos that started back in twenty twenty where we were going into this location that's in Wyoming County, West Virginia, and we've code named it Wineberry because you know, it's you're not going to find wineberry on them, so it's kind of like like our code name for this this area. And we actually have a resident who is a member of our research team who lives there now and it's it's her family's property. It's been in her family since the seventeen hundreds.

14:56 We yeah, we've there's grave up there in a family gravesite that is absolutely remarkable because they're they're hand carved, like you can tell her hand etched and not with like stone carving tools, which is what they had on hand. And that area is always giving up new data and it started with a bigfoot report where we went out we found track casts. There's now over the last few years, there's been nearly a dozen tracks that have been cast, and we're well over fifty that have been photographically documented and measured and whatnot. So it's it's a really really active area. And some of the more recent stuff that we've gotten out of there from Beth was some audio recordings. She went out and there's a there's an old house that's on the property. And when I say old house, it was the one room kind of we would consider it now like a shed, it wouldn't be, but it was an old house. It was a one room house back in the day. And she it's silly in fairly decent conditions. So she'll go in there sometimes and take a sleeping bag, and we've got her some decent equipment to run, and she'll go out there and she'll set in i like, for the majority of

16:26 the night in the house and just record audio and use use whatever kind of gear she's got with her at the time, and she's she's brought back some really interesting audio samples. You'll hear some of them in the show. But there's I mean, there's so many, like you know, I don't have a problem talking about those. One of them, you know, one of them. It's remarkable and how close it sounds to the samurai chatter from ronal Ahead and oh yeah, and it's uh, you know, Ron and I had also heard that Ron is is my partner at Wild and Weird West Virginia and West Virginia House Rangers Collective and Wild Weird Radio and all that good stuff.

17:11 Oh and sorry, let's let's clarify. When he says Ron is his partner, he doesn't mean Ron moorehead is is no no, no, yeah, two runs. But there their their brains work about this thame pretty much. Yeah. So we, uh me and Ron Lamham were out at our farm, uh my wife and I's farm, and we heard this same chatter and we recorded it. We we actually got recorded seth actually released some of it in the Mountain State Monsters Sasquatch on Earth episode, so you can go back and hear some of that. But there's a clearly voices down in the ravine and there's there's no people there. This is it's uh un acres of family owned property and cattle are the only thing that's there. And then as far as people go, the next closest people is the opposite direction, the direction that we're facing. When we recorded, the audio goes on for I think three or four miles before you come to the next house, and so it's we got some really good audio there and it sounded very similar to what what Beth had gotten again, really similar to what Ron mooreheaded recorded back with the sears Hounds. So we've been really excited about that, and we're looking into installing some long duration recorders out there. Wow, I've got I've got

18:47 some PVC out in the garage. I've got basically, I've just got to get time at this point because we're still filming some episodes for Paranormal Horizon and I've just got to get the time to get in the garage to fabricate the these basically weatherproof tubes to store the recorder and uh and we're gonna start hanging those out there in a few places. I'm going to uh, I'm gonna I'm not gonna paint them Camo I've seen some people that do a cameo paint on them, but uh, I've got some material that I can sculpt, and I'm gonna actually make them look like tree bark and broken off limbs and paint them up so that way they look more natural and kind of blend into the environment, and we'll hopefully make them a little bit harder to detect.

19:40 And we're gonna we're gonna put those out. We're gonna put one in the tree near the house that Deth's got this audio from, and then we're gonna put another one up on the ridge for sure, and I'd like to put a third somewhere, but I just don't know where the best spot would be there. One of the more recent track casts that she got out of there was a large there's slide in Okay, And I want to kind of clarify what I mean by that. You know, in Bigfoot tracks, these alleged big Foot tracks, there's this slide like you know you're stepping in when you get a when you leave a really nice impression, it's normally in soft strata.

20:25 It's not going to be in the gravel. You know. Sometimes you'll get some good ones that are in a gravel road that normally it's going to be like on a mud puddle or on the edge of the mud puddle where it's kind of silty clay material, and you'll get a little bit of a slide in the step, and that extends some of these footprints a bit. So you know, you're looking at footprints that measure from hill to toe around eighteen to twenty inches. But if you read the footprint close enough and you look at it, you'll see where the toes might look a little extended and long because they've slid farther out into the mud, and the heel you actually see almost like a second heel impression if you look really really close in a really clean one, if you're lucky enough to get a really nice heel impression, you'll see like almost like a silhouetted heel. And that's normally where the hill actually came to a stop. And that's so we'll measure from there, so that most of those footprints that were getting that are in the eighteen to twenty inch range. They're realistically, they're realistically the foot is probably around you know, sixteen to eighteen inches physically, you know, I don't think that based off the slot anyway. And one of the tracks actually had a small track in it, so it was about a six and a half inch long

21:56 track that was four inches is why, man, and it was right in the middle of this track. And so that indicates to me that if these things are out there, because I, like I don't like to speak in terms that are you know, definitive, there's possibilities that this this you know, we're all just crazy, like I just doubt know it. Yeah, yeah, like I have that like you, but you know what I mean, right, Like I've had experiences actually in two thousand and one. Uh, we talked about this on your show Forever Ago. I had a sighting in two thousand and one, and I recently had a sighting. I can tell you about that because I haven't that's something new. I had a sighting back in October of this past year, and it's it's I can give you.

22:51 I can give you a brief front down of it here. But uh, anyway, you know, the these possible tracks, if this is really out there and what we think is then this shows a large adult subject with a young subject, you know, a baby so to speak, or at least a toddler, and that's extremely interesting and to see that we're getting that out of Lindberry because for years we were getting the same single creature for years out of Lindberry. The tracks were all relatively the same size, but there was one one key physical marker that was a dead giveaway, and it was the big toe. It's big toes, really peculiar shape, and the big toe it's it's kind of like a signature for what this thing's leaving behind.

23:51 And so we're under the impression. And Cliff Berrickman's looked at these and Tom Shay has looked at these, and they agree that we're we've been collect data on a single specimen, but now this shows that there's another and that's exciting that that is very exciting. Yeah, m so, and it well, it actually shows that there's more than just another like it takes two to tango, so to speak. Potentially could have a family unit there then, yeah, yeah, exactly, you know, And so that's really exciting and we're monitoring that. Beth recently, i think, I want to say recently, I'm talking two weeks ago, she found a eight inch track which would fit the growth pattern because the the other one was found in the mid fall, you know, it's like around the October time frame of last year, because she had just got that one pulled out of the dirt, no sooner than she came down to Kryptocon and brought up with her, so that way we could see it, and we got a bunch of other people to look at it too, and it was really awesome. So so as far as like the new stuff that I can actually talk about, that's that's kind of it.

25:15 But I did have a sighting of something back in October. I'm a classically trained chef and I was working for a friend of mine's restaurant doing an outdoor wedding catering and this this joint was out in the middle of nowhere. It's an old homestead here in West Virginia, and it's it's actually near the Ohio River and it's I think as the crow flies is probably about you know, eight miles from the river. But there's nothing out there. This is there's a couple stray houses, but it's mostly just old farmland. It's not been taken care of farmland, so you've got you know, third generation trees growing in so it's what we call like a tertiary forest. So they're all trees that are like in the light. The oldest tree there's easily forty years old. So you're dealing with smaller, thick, really dense brush and trees that are about, you know, the width of your thigh, maybe a little bit bigger for the most part, all the way through this land.

26:25 And wedding's over, and I've got me and one of the other employees in the truck with me. We've got everything loaded up. The party is still going on. We've left the food out because it was all on disposable stuff, so that way they can clean up and leave because they were planning on partying well unto the you know, next morning. And we were done with dinner right around dusk, and we've got everything packed up and we were rolling out, so I still had a little bit of ambient light, but my headlights were on and we're leaving, leaving the party. We drive out and it's it's me and the southern employee and we're going out this dirt road and I see it in the silhouette of this hand I'm like, oh, man, that's a there must have been an old house that was sitting there because it kind of looked like an old you know, topiary basically that had died.

27:22 It was that kind of shape, and it was around like roughly six and a half seven feet tall. And I was like, oh, yeah, there must have been a trailer or something that was sitting here and they've pulled it off. And Houser saw growing up and my headlights hit it. Well, it had been raining for a little little while as we were tearing everything down, and this thing was standing there with its back to me at an angle, and it had long, kind of blondish hair, and it was yeah, and it I could I very clearly saw its left hand, and it looked it looked a little different than the ones that I'd seen in two thousand and one in the sense that this one had a lighter skin color.

28:11 It was more like a a tan ruddy brown rather than like a battleship gray. Yeah right, you hear, yeah, And and the hair was a lot lighter, you know, the ones I'd seen forever ago. They they were they ranged from jet black with the little one, to like an auburny dark brown to just sow just normal dark brown. This one was much lighter colored, and uh, it was a little bit slimmer build and and I was much closer to this one because the truck came within thirty five feet.

28:56 Wow. And you know, I've got employee with me. They're on the clock, and I couldn't just stop and chase this thing down because I wanted to. But anyway, I stopped the truck and dead with the headlights on it. The employee that's with me seized the thing as well. So there's two witnesses in this event. And she's like, what is that? Oh my god, what is that? You know? And I open up the door and I get out of the truck and I'm standing there on the road, and everything in my brain is telling me like, it's research time, buddy. If we're going to spend the rest of the night out here in the woods, and we're gonna collect as much beat as we can.

29:41 And the employee, the employer side of me, was like, you have an employee in the truck that needs to get off the clock because until you get back to the shop and clean there, they're getting paid eighteen dollars an hour. Yes, oh that's terrible. Yeah yeah. Yeah. So I'm sitting here and I'm like, oh god, oh, and I was so conflicted and my stomach just dropped and uh and I'm honestly, I'm I'm glad that I didn't go with what I actually wanted to do, because, come to find out, that part of the property was not owned by the family that was having the wedding at that farm. It was the neighbor next to them. And if that land nobody lives on it, it's a hunting lease right there. So if uh, and this was in October, so you know, there's people out and and there could have been somebody out in that area and see me running in and here I am would be a trespasser at that and and i'd have got smoke showed right there. So so you know, because I did call and and we set up some time to go and investigate the area and the owner of that land when when I called and talked to them, they weren't surprised at all, really like, oh yeah, it wasn't like when you know, when I told him what we saw and

31:12 I said, I'm actually an investigator and I'd like to come out and take a look at some point, and she was just like, well, I'm not comfortable with you going out there until it's not hunting season. She's like, if you could wait until you know the turn of the year or into next summer, you can come out there. Just call me and let me know, and I'll let everybody know you're going to be there and what you're going to be doing. I've given you the green light. But she said, right now, there's people on the hunting lease that can come out there at any time and hunt. And she's like, I just wouldn't want you to get hurt. I wouldn't want something happened and somebody seeing you and shooting at you. And I was like, well, I agree, that's the last thing I would want to So we we made arrangements to UH and got clearance to come out there, and and we're excited to get out and take a look at that spot because you know, obviously now it's a cold case.

32:07 I'm not going to collect data from my sighting at this point. But we we've been doing this long enough, we know what to look for, we know where it looks the best to look for things, and and UH, you know we're gonna we're gonna give it the good old college try and get back out there. Well, I've been on the property where the wedding was at since then, but we're really you got to let me know what happens for sure. Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely. I'll give you an update as soon as we find out. And uh so we're excited about that one. And uh but yeah, like the only thing I can think, man, You know, we had the food outside and it was roast sirling and I had tons of different sides, and all of the sides had aromatic herbs on them, So you had all of this fragrance in the air that was just calling stuff in. And then you had a DJ and a dance floor and music all that craziness going on out here, and you've got lasers and lights and all this stuff going everywhere, Joe, So now you know what you need to do to get these guys to come in every time. I know, Man, I'm just gonna go out in the forest and have a rave. Oh man, you're actually going to get to see that eventually, by the way, Oh really, Oh yeah, yeah, we're at our next Bigfoot workshop. We were actually gonna we're actually gonna do that. Ron

33:39 and I used to both be in bands. We weren't in the same band, but we have enough equipment to cobble stuff together and we actually have some DJ lights and stuff like that, and we're going to do that at the workshop, just for fun at the end and see what happens, you know, if we're getting skunked. Otherwise we're just we're going to go and we'll turn on the we'll start up the fire, cook some food, and go on the music. Have some fun for we get Joe, you've had some wild stuff going on. I can't wait to see you next weekend. But dude, I just oh yeah, man, thank you so much for calling in giving us an update and good times. Dude. Absolutely, man, thanks for having me on and give me a shout to bring me on.

34:25 It's always fun getting to talk to you and hang out with your folks here. I hope everybody's enjoyed this, and if you if you like what you're hearing, go check out Wild and Weird West Virginia over on YouTube. It's Wild and Weird WV. You can catch up with all the stuff we're doing, and then you can also find Paranormal Horizons starting July the fourteenth on Small Town Monsters YouTube. So you're definitely gonna want to go check that out. And if you're a small Town Monster's member, you'll get it three days early and ad free you might. I Joe, you're too good at that. All right, dude, thanks for calling man, I appreciate it. Thanks, brother, have a good one. See you next week. Man big for Society. Who will be right back after these messages? Oh? Joe's a great guy. Guys, if you haven't watched the Wineberry documentary on their their YouTube channel, you need to. Oh my goodness, we have so many people to call back. This is gonna get wild. All right, Tate, I'm calling you back. Be good. Someone in the uh someone let me know if you can hear Tate right off the bat, Tate, this is live on the podcast. What's going on? Man? What do

35:55 Tate? You told me to call you back? This is during the live show. Oh my god, that's hilarious. Okay, this was an you to talk me out of the air. Then, no, no, this is cool. How's it going? Good? Good? I'm watching the movie Sign. That's a classic. All right, that's a good movie. Anyway, what yes, go ahead, this is a great night. Good lord. No, I saw your TikTok about southern California where the fire is.

36:37 Yeah, yeah, that was right where I got my thermal. Was it really Okay? So the same area where Moneymaker had his first stuff happened, you had that thermal happen. Yeah, Cliff recommended I go there in the first place, and that's where I found the track, all right, which prompted me to reach out to money Maker when and then I met Moneymaker the next year in October twenty sixteen, and that's when I got my thermal video. That's awesome, guys, is hold on, this is Tate Hieronymous. If you're not sure who that this is. This is a one of my buddies, a bigfoot researcher. He's got a great documentary series you can watch on YouTube Sasquatch to search for save, so make sure you hit that up.

37:28 It's pretty stellar. It is. I'm not gonna lie. It's very stellar. But it's crazy because on the five Highway going towards Bakersfield the same year that I got my footage, but months earlier, in July, a guy got a one walking on the side of the mountain. Oh really, yep, wow, And I was with Moneymaker on the Bforce edition that I helped set up, and I met that guy. I don't think he's lying at all. And then we walked alongside the hill with that with that thing was and there's no way it was a dude in the costume in southern California in the middle of July like that. Yeah, I mean you'd have to be crazy to do that, right, Like that makes no sense? No?

38:15 Yeah, but no, yeah. That that pretty much where you had the Arab pointing to where Moneymaker found tracks is literally probably within like five six miles away filmed my video. That's awesome. What was the name of that area again, I am drying, It's terrible. My memory is terrible. Plus Padres National Forest, that's right, thank you. We can bring it up. The Pyramid Lakes right there. Frasier Park is the biggest town. Nobody knows what Gorman is literally just like a couple of gas stations and a fast food restaurant. But it's right next to Hungary Valley. Ohv Park, gotcha. Yeah. The roads up there are pretty horrible. Actually, you have to have like a decent uh lifted vehicle to get up that mountain because I don't really don't really take care of it, washed out, so nobody can really get up there either. So can you get maybe a little sneak peek of any cool stuff you got coming up? Or you keeping that uh, keeping that close to don't really have any like thing crazy coming up.

39:34 I have another commentary episode coming out, and then that's next month, and then after that I have a brand new Florida episode for the SABE series. And I was with Ron Reid and Ryan Golumbski RPG from Expedition and Finding Bigfoot, so we know we went out there, did some stuff good times. And yeah, other than that, October is the only time I want to be doing stuff for the series, filming some new content then gotcha. Well who knows what'll what will be coming up next, but make sure that you just uh it's the Tate houronymous YouTube channel. You can look up sasquatch a search for Sabe as well. Make sure you're subscribed. He comes out with a you do a new episode about once every month, right on the twentieth usually yep, I planned that, so every twentieth of October I have a big Foot video coming out, So there you go as well. Stick with the exactly well, I'm glad I talked to you tonight. Thank you for thank you for asking me to call. And you didn't even always doing the live show, so good stuff. Yeah, I had no like, oh, I'm doing the live show. Okay, all right, dude, I gotta keep it moving because I got I got people calling in, so good chatting with you? Do all right? Pick me out peace? Oh my

41:06 goodness, good old take all right, let's see who we got next. All right, let me know if you can hear the individual right off the bat, please ellea. Hey this Jeremiah. Hey you can hear me? You got it? Hey, what's going on? Brother? Oh? Hey, this is uh, this is mister Craig. Isn't that it is? It is? All right? Thanks for calling in. What have we got going on? Craig? Oh man, I don't even know where it began? Just I know you reached out to me a while back with some contacts and he you shared some information with me. It's close to where I'm at and who be careful, Craig, all right, real quick? Uh yeah, is it still okay? Wow? This could get interesting? Okay, go ahead, Yeah, I just don't mention the other people, please like by name. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, okay, great. Uh, but he shared some information, well, they there was a group h shared some information with me. Uh, some teachers and videos, some locations, just just to be aware of what's going on.

42:34 And i'd also recently, you know, I talked to you about some different activities, and I've talked to Jannis Carter and no ship of people just learning, you know. And I recently had a baby and uh, me and my woman decided to go out, me and hearing the baby, go out at not and just see what was going on and just uh pretn that we weren't big foot hunting. I guess I really don't know. It seems like every time she goes out, it's a she's like a magnet for activity. Craig, Before we before we launch into that, we can you're okay with sharing the state we're in, right, Yeah, that's fine, Okay.

43:15 Do you want to go ahead and say that Tennessee? All right, and then that's pretty much the most we can say about where the location is, guys, So go ahead and feel fair, continued Craig. Uh, yeah, so we went. She's been women before in the daytime, but never went at night. She decided let's go at night, and I thought, well, we've got the newborn baby, and you know, why not, why not have a magnet you just to see, you know. We went this This area's got a lot of graveyards in it. We sat in a graveyard. As soon as we got there and we started hearing activity.

44:02 She was freaking out. She's like, I can, I can definitely hear stuff walking around. She's a non believer, by the way, but she goes out like, I don't know, she has experiences, but until she sees it, it ain't happening right right, But we could hear. I had to record her out and we did hear stuff walk in or we weren't sure what it was, you know, a lot of activity, but it was really dark out. So we sat there for a little while. She got spooed. We decided to move to a different location. It's the location I've talked about with other people before I've had some activities. It's a little bit more I opened, just slightly more open. We were just part.

44:47 We weren't even outside, we were just part. As soon as we got there, set the recorder out and almost immediately started having some wild action just noises tree, he's breaking snapping twig snapping movement. We were looking around, looking off to all the directions. We get there, get quiet, they start you to hear a movement and it was definite steps. And I've not talked about this to anyone. This this is the first time, so I may stumble through this. This is I've texted two people of this, but I've never spoke it out loud. And me and Herbs still haven't even talked about this. Uh So we're sitting there and we can hear uh we definitely can hear activity all around again. We got through a quarter out. It's dark. I've got I've got a really good spotlight with me, but I've not got it on, just you know, saving it. Of course, everybody's like, get your cameras rolling, get this, YadA YadA. But I mean, I'm even out here for this experience, and you know, you don't even do this all the time. But like we're just talking and as we're talking, I'm kind of getting nervous right now talking about it.

46:05 Actually didn't think it'd be this way. This is weird. This is actually weird, and this is part of it. It's really interesting part of my research, like how people have these have these events when they're out there for them and they don't they don't know how to react, but that's what they're there for, you know. And like I hear all these podcasts about people shaking when they tra their stories, and you know, I'm actually sitting here shaking right now. I wouldn't believe it, but give me a second, no problem. So we're sitting there and we can we can hear definite movement to our left, which is on my side of the vehicle, and I'm looking around over there, and she's freaking out because she'd hears something extremely close to her side of the vehicle, which is a little bit closer to the woodline. Uh. That wasn't intentional then, just how it worked out.

47:00 So I'm hearing noises to my left and I'm looking and I can see a little bit because it's a half moon or whatnot clear night. There's definite movement and you can almost see where it's going, but you can't see. You just follow your ears, if that makes any sense. And then I started hearing movement over on her side, and she's already freaking out, and I'm looking over at her she's like slumped down in the seat, shaking just a little bit, like not wanting to talk and try she's trying to gri in and make jokes about it, and then we're just I kind of brush it off. We talk about you know, or you creep out a little bit.

47:40 Yeah, yeah, I don't like these things walking around and what you mean these things? And she's like, well, I know there's one on my side, and there's definitely something bigger on your side. And I was like, okay, big for society will be right back after these messages. And we were just sitting there again and like I said, I've got my recorder out, but again I don't I've never put myself in these people's shoes that have had these encounters and never been able to they don't share them, right or you know they don't. They're out there for it, but they're like, oh, I've not done this, but I'm not. Went back through the recorder. We don't talk about it. But so we're sitting there and uh man, it's almost like I don't even want to say it.

48:44 That's crazy. This is what I do and it's crazy. I don't want to talk about it. But we hear your definite movement, and she's starting to get a little creeped out, and she perks up all of a sudden, Like I said, she slaps down in the seat a little bit. She perks up, and I definitely hear movement off to my left, and I'm skinning the woodline there and I just wait and I wait, and I slowly pick up my spotlight and it's a pretty bright spotlight, and I kind of think I see something that I don't. Then I hear kind of like a step, and then I wait and I can still her tensing up. And then so I tell her, I said, I'm going to shine a light, you know, just see what we see. See what happens, just kind of jokingly to ease the tention. But as soon as I hit the light, when they say these things move fast, and they move quick and they can disappear, I'm talking about this thing was lightning fast. What I saw it was about thirty yards away from me. It's just a slight incline. The bulk. The majority of what I saw was I'm not even and I do this. I've not even went back. She's begged me to go back, like when are you going back to take your measurements. I can't believe I've not went back, you know. And when you reached out to me today and talked to me, and I was like, yeah, I definitely need to share this because I've got to get it out because as a researcher, you hear this stuff. But what I saw was about thirty

50:17 yards to my left. It moved from my left to my right. What I saw with the light what actually I hit direct movement and actually caught the glimpse of it, was between six to seven eight feet off the ground, Like you know, there was more of it, but that's what I actually caught with the beam because you know, I didn't have it on like a broad floodlight. I had it on a direct spotlight, so it just hit that instead of the broad flood whatnot. That shocked me just seeing something that high and then immediately this thing was gone faster than I could move the light.

50:57 I mean, I was just seeing movement. And you can hear it on the recording. You could hear her talk about it. I can hear it, but I've not went back through it enough to really sit down and listen to it. Just I know it's there freaking me out to listen to. I mean, it just it ran away. But it was it having so quick that, like I wasn't expecting it to be that way. I figured my reaction to it was not what I expected. I figured we would talk about it, we would go out immediately and run there because I can say this is what I do. I've been there a million times. But I'm telling you now I'm shaking. I'm talking about it, and I'm sure I'm leaving out details, but I mean, you know how I am.

51:38 You've got to kind of prime me to get more out of me. But it I don't know. I'm having trouble process. And like I said, it's the first time I've tested this to two people, and this is the first time I've actually even spoke spoke of it. And I don't know if this is even where you want to go with this. Yeah, I mean, Craig, did you were you able to see any details on it or did it just disappear that quickly or ran away that quickly? What I saw I saw the mass of like I said, at minimum was six feet, and I saw from there up to about eight feet, so I saw about a foot and a half to two foot of masks that large moving through the trees like it was. It was higher what I actually the movement I actually saw because that's just where the spot like it, you know, was higher than say a deer, any animal that would be here would be you know that I actually even caught movement shocked me and that just freaked me out that it was that high. I think the detail I'm not sure if what I saw was black and as it went by had a silver shimmer, or if what I saw was silver and as it went by it turned to black, if that makes any sense. Right, Like, as soon as the light hit it, there was that flashes of color. And I'm, like I

53:08 said, I've not I've not worked it out because I'm not stoken of it or wrote it down. I'm it's weird that I'm having trouble process and when this is what I'm out here doing. You know, Yeah, because you spent so much time in that area, I mean a massive amount of time, and were there any details you saw that made you think, Okay, this is definitely a bigfoot in not the other type of creature that we know is in that area potentially, No, No, and that's what so we joked that that's what we went out there to look for. That now, but I don't know what the difference is in researching, right because like I told you before, I'm not real big into that, but I've been trying to get into it a little bit, and that's kind of what we joked about that we were going to see and then so no, I can't and it's right on that borderline that we've talked about, So I honestly I can't say for positive I know that it wasn't a known creature because it was so small, right, you are not so small, but because what's there are smaller than what I've seen moved through and the way it moved through, the speed that it went I've never seen, and I've run up on turkeys, I walked, but you know, everybody's flushed up deer an animal, and how fast they moved, but you can follow them through the woods even with their noise. This thing, it was so fast and then you saw the

54:42 limbs follow it, if that makes sense, Like as it went through then the limbs caught up to it. That's really interesting, Craig. So when you say limbs, you're talking are you talking about like the arms? Uh no, the tree limbs? Oh? Sorry, okay, yeah, well I won't be I'm not sure if what I saw, what I would have saw would have been if it was a limb, it would have been from the shoulder down, you know, the hot wise what I saw, and like I said, I'm still processing it. I talked to her. I told her I was going to call you and talk to you, and she was that was the first time I men heard him and spoke of it, and she was like she even joked, She's like, well, I know I didn't see a big foot. I'll just say it was a dog man and laughed about it. Because I'm like, why would you laugh if you don't believe it? Why would you pick one over the other? You know?

55:37 But that's I don't know. I don't know. Oh man, Yeah, Craig. I mean, I know this is a tough one because you're very, very affected by this. But if you can, it's really a thing where it would be interesting if you could go back and check out that area. Yeah, normally I'll look. Now that's what's both puzzling me because normally I would go, like I say, she's always telling me, you know, I can have my bigfoot time and whatnot, and we joke about it and this and that. Like she's asked me ever since. Then, She's like, when are you going back to the woods. I'm like, I will and there or I'll tell her I'm going. I'm like, I find a reason not to im Like, all I really need is twenty minutes to go take my measurements because I wasn't even deep in the woods. I just got to get there and walk to where I seen it, right, But for some reason, I've not brought myself to it. But I'm also the guy that you know is out there walking alone all these miles, you know, like it's weird. I don't understand why I've not went back, but yet I'll go to these hops. That does that make any sense?

56:49 Yeah? And I mean listeners need to know that, like you are going out in the woods for your by yourself, and like you're hiking what eight to ten miles, like it's nothing in the in the middle of nowhere. It's wild. But you know, I know going through the thing that I experienced a few weekends ago when my son and I went camping and we had some stuff happen. Like I was affected pretty hard by that, and there was a point where I was like, I don't even want to come back and do any of this again. And that feeling kind of went away once we left the area about ten miles out of it. You were saying, you don't want to come back and do any of what, like any camping or even the podcast stuff, oh, just the camping, because like, so what I feel happened is when we were in that area, I feel like I was affected by infrasound, like I was telling you earlier, and it just it hit me really hard, and I was like, you know, feeling kind of angry, feeling like I don't know if what's going on here, it's really messing with me. And I was like, you know what, I just want to get out of here. And uh, about like ten minutes away from the area, like that whole feeling just left.

58:07 It was is a very weird experience, Craig. I'm still kind of processing that myself, and it's been a number of weeks. So yeah, like I said, this happened my my my siding, or if you want to call it that, I mean, everybody's gonna classify I'm different. I'm I'm definitely gonna say it was siding. I won't say it was a broad daylight full body siding, you know, but I'm definitely leaning because of what I saw in the hot and the movement and the sounds leaning up to it and afterwards and in all our actions, I definitely believe it was a siding. But like I'm almost like I seen, Like I talked to you before, you know, what am I gonna do when I see one? I was like, I really don't know, Like once I've seen it, like my my, my feelings, my every like, I believe these creatures a hunder wholeheartedly exist. But then it was like, oh, we talked about it for like a hot second in the woods there, we left, we came home, and ever since then, I've just been like I'm done with everything.

59:13 I'm good, but like I don't know. And then you reached out to me today and I was like, no, no, I can't be done. I gotta go back. I gotta do this for you know. But like I understand now. I used to hear these people talk about how they would hold these encounters in for years and years and years, and I'm like no, you got to share it. But like I understand now, I mean, it's crazy. It's a wild feeling. It's like I say, talking to you now, I'm shaking it. I was in a car exactly. No, it wasn't like I walked up on this thing. You know, Craig, I'd be interested to see if you're able, if you're able to see any tracks in that area. I mean, if you if you do decide that you can go back, I would be very cute curious to see. You know, what measurements if you take, and if there's any evidence that you find there too. I'm going tomorrow. Okay, that's great. We already talked about it because we were going to go to not but we just said I need to go in the daytime, get my measurements rout before we go, try to have another experience. And then, like I said, I don't know, she's like a magnet for it. So if you guys got any non believer women out there taken with you, if you want to have any experience because it's wild, well all right, I'll keep that in mind. Craig. It's been it's been a pleasure chatting with

1:00:46 you again. I think if you could, you know, maybe the next few days. If you have any updates, definitely reach out. Let me know what you find. So yeah, I'll go out and get some measurements tomorrow and I'll get sent over to you. The fucking like I said, I don't know while I'm not went and pulled the recording off. I just we listened to it as we're leaving and we could hear it, and I've just set it down. I'm not put it on the computer. So I'll try and get to that to you and get that sent over to you absolutely. Okay, thank you for calling in. I appreciate it. Hey, no problem, brother, I was in Pune as always, all right, be safe, usually good guys. We have it is one wild night.

1:01:36 Let's see. Let me look Cliff called. That's gonna be off the air call Big for Society will be right back after these messages. Hello, Hi, this is Jeremiah. Hello, Hi, this is Jeremiah. Hello. This is Kevin. Can you hear me? Oh hey, Kevin, how's it going? All right? How's it going? Dude? I've had so many people calling in. I'm excited to talk to you. Do you mind introducing yourself really quick? To the listeners and listeners if you can let me know if you can hear Kevin in the chat, and then after we hear that, we'll go ahead. Oh okay, yeah, I was in the chat. I was listening to the sighting and maybe I was behind or something on the chat is a little behind, but yeah, anyway, this is Kevin Llewellen and I'm in eastern Washington State. At ten years of age, I saw Roger Patterson in person present Patterson Gimlin film, and so I was hooked at that time. I've been a big Foot enthusiast then giving away my

1:03:09 age here, but I've been an enthusiast for fifty seven years. Yeah, I got and stuff's going on up here. The continues to go on. The two weeks ago, I was in the Washington Cascades of Cascade Mountain range of Washington and Oregon. Are I you know, I think it's the heart of Bigfoot activity. I you know, I know they're all over North America and everything and Alaska and but but yeah, the cascadee you know, is definitely one of the one of the hot spots. So yeah, I just you know, I had stuff going on, like say two weeks ago.

1:03:57 If you want me to kind of go into what we found the things that we heard, then okay, Yeah, the the first night there was a wood knock, unsolicited wood knock south of camp, and then just after two a m. We heard some things the coyotes going off. But on my audio, I've got two clips, and I wish they were closer to the recorders. I listened to it with my headphones on, and it almost seems like, well, there's a possible I'm just not sure, but there's a possibility that it's not a coyote that set off the coyotes. So you hear it said, you know a lot that a bigfoot howl, you know, sets off the coyotes, and they started hearing their howling and screaming and stuff.

1:04:57 And so anyway, we I just kind of had this gut feeling another thing that was going on. And this might not be mean anything at all, but we were sitting there in camp and the frogs were going off to the east of us, and you know, frogs will just go and they won't shut up, you know, but all of a sudden they would just go quiet, and they would stay quiet for a few minutes and this may be just you know, typical frog behavior. I don't know, I don't know about frogs. But and then and then they would start in again, and then all of a sudden, they would just shut up. We didn't hear anything walking around, but we were just you know, listening to other wildlife. You know, when you're out there, you know, pay attention to the other wildlife to see what they're doing if you're going to maybe get any bigfoot activity going on, and how that affects the other wildlife. And so I just had kind of this this gut feeling like could there be something east of our camp that was over there maybe listening to us, could there be some bigfoot activity that was going on over there? So the next morning, myself and two others went over and you know, it's hard to say exactly how far away from camp, less than one hundred yards, you know, because we've got to walk around all the dead fall trees. So you're

1:06:30 zig zagging, you know, to go back in there and checking things out. And came upon this area and all three four feet wide nine ten feet long, and there were these boughs laid down on the ground, and there there is there was a smaller snag dead tree that came down, and so we were looking at the bows. We were looking at this thing. Did it bring down these boughs? They we did a lot of checking, We did a lot of experimenting with those boughs, breaking them ourselves, and they were broken, but like broken and peeled. So two three inches up the little limb of the broken bow, you know, it was the bark was peeled away. And so it's so we're thinking, and all this is laying there by this down tree. The I looked and looked for hair. I can't tell you how long I looked, and I'm like, okay, come on, you got to find some bigfoot hair, right, you know here in the well. Yeah. But so anyway, definitely we're doing that.

1:07:47 So we decided, okay, let's say Bigfoot did not peel these bows off and try to make a mat or a place here on the ground. So say these bows came down with the tree when it fell. But at the same time, there I was going through this matted area, and you know, in places there were bows that were four or five bows deep. So we're like, okay, so then okay, let's just say, you know, okay, it's not. Let's say, okay, don't jump to saying that it's bigfoot right away. Yeah, let's say, okay, let's say the tree did this when it fell, when it came down. But then about thirty feet away was another spot, and it was just a small little area of bows that were kind of piled up there, and there was another little tiny snag, a little dead fall right along there. And on the one side of the dead fall were two sticks in an X. And on the other side of the dead fall there were two sticks that were there, and around one of them was another stick that was not broken in half, but cracked, and it was wrapped around the one stick and then made a

1:09:17 V shape on top of this other snag. Now I'm not much into all these x's and all this stuff in the forest, because I see it millions and millions of times here in the Pacific Northwest. We've got you know, snowload, we've got freezing rain, windstorms, you know, and so there's all kinds of this stuff the way things come down. But so we found this possible, you know that was it a resting area? Was it a possible kind of a bed that? Was it a spot where they were listening to our camp. You know, so like say we ruled we tried to rule this stuff out. Say nature brought that tree down, say it it brought those bows down in the one spot. How it kind of piled them up, I don't know. But then you know, like say thirty feet away was this other spot, and so you combine the two together, and it was like, you know, okay, explain that to me. I you know, that's what I always do to people. I always say, okay, you know, you explain that to me. You know, help me out, Explain this to me. You know, how did this happen exactly? So later so yeah, So then later in the afternoon two thirty or so, I took another couple investigators because they were out that morning exploring

1:10:50 in a different direction, bushwhacking in a different direction. So I took them back, you know, and I said, hey, you know, you got to look at this. Take a look at this. So I had some other people back there from our camp, and the three of us hung back and we were hanging around, and we still kept looking and you know, and we had circled that morning, uh, myself and the other two that were with me, you know, we were doing circles around there, trying to find, you know, any other signs that could point towards Bigfoot, you know. But anyway, in the afternoon, myself and two other people were back there, and all of a sudden, the one guy goes, you know, I hear something walking back over there, you know, further to the east, and we're listening and we could hear the little twig snaps. There was something moving back over there, and there was kind of a vocalization it. You know, I thought, okay, that sounds like maybe like an elk. Elk will do like a mew, you know, mew and kind of thing. But then all of a sudden we heard rock clacks. You know, No, duh, elk do not do rock click right, that's that's not an elk thing. Yeah, okay, you know, it's like, hey, you know that, if you know me, I'm always trying to rule out stuff. You know. It's like, you know, okay, what else is out there? You know, elk, fox bear, you know that that's going to do things. But okay,

1:12:23 then all of a sudden, these rock clacks start in and I look at the other two, you know, and I said to the one you know, I said, that's rock clacking, and he said, yes, that's rock clacking, right, and so yeah, and so we're standing there listen, and then the other one he was a few yards in front of me, and the other guy he's got it. I still keep hearing it. There's still something moving over there. And so I say, I can't remember how long. It wasn't terribly long that the rock clacking went on, but it was several times. And then I took a little twig and I tapped on a you know, a dead stick or a dead limb sticking up out of a of a dead fault, a down tree, and so I kind of did my own little tapping and to try to see if I could get any kind of response in that. And well the raw clocking stopped, so they didn't. Yeah, they didn't want to try to, you know, answer or do anything like that back. And so anyway, you know, it just it wasn't like it wasn't a nest, but was it, you know, was it a spot? It was definitely in a location where they could easily listen to our camp. And so was there something going on there?

1:13:45 You know, Like I say, I just can't say one hundred percent sure. If we would have found some hair, then okay, then I would say for sure and not just jump to the conclusion that bigfoot was was making some kind of a mat or some kind of a place to sit or lay down exoltly. Yeah, that's that's a thing where, you know, because when I see stuff like that, I'm always thinking, okay, maybe bigfoot, but potentially bushcraft. But you mentioned some stuff that's like it's just it's very weird, right, especially the rock clacking. I mean that's very weird. Yeah, you know, it wasn't and we weren't. We didn't find any you know kind of you know, shelter type things like you say, like somebody doing somebody practicing survival thing or anything like that. You know, there was no lean to Uh, it was just that in that mat of bows laid out and then like I say, thirty feet away there was almost another spot. And of course in my mind and I'm picturing all this well, could have been a bigfoot and maybe a mama and she took her little poddler and she's like goes over here, and it's like, you know, you sit here, you don't move. You know, I'm gonna lay down and listen to the camp, listen to those humans over there, and

1:15:17 so you know, my mind, my mind gets going like that. But then in reality or I mean to get you know, to keep it serious with investigating, you know, it's like, okay, let's we got to rule out these other things, like say, boy, I wish I could have found some hair. I you know, I was sky high there for a few minutes, Like there's got to be some hair around in here that that could maybe point us towards Bigfoot. But anyway, yeah, like I say, that was in the Washington Cascades two weeks ago, and so you know, things just keep you know, I just keep having things continue need to happen, but just can't get anything, you know on video. Right, Well, keep keep going. I mean, thank you for sharing about that. Is that a place you might be going back to, Kevin?

1:16:15 Oh yeah, I've been there. I've been there. Yeah, I've been there, yeah multiple times, and we'll be going back there, you know. So yeah, it's it's a spot that Yeah, it has activity for sure, you know for decades that there's been activity yeah there as well, oh yeah there has so yeah, it's it and you know, so yeah, there's there's family units that have been in that area, like you say, for decades, and you know, you just you know, you've got to just catch them, you know, try to draw them into camp.

1:17:01 I continue to do the curiosity type stuff. That's my approach. You know, I'll play harmonica, you know, flute type thing and you know, anything to you know, to try to get their curiosity going and and keep them around camp, you know, keep them interested in what we're doing. Absolutely, Kevin, It's always always a pleasure to talk to you. Do you mind taking a few minutes to talk about that. You have two books out now, right, I do, yeah, and call well. The first one is called Incessantly big Footing, and the second one is called Incessantly big Footing Through Time and their fun reads. They're just short stories, and you know, they're some of it is fiction, but others are based on true events. In the first book, I cover my sighting and the cast.

1:18:03 I got of a track associated with that, that sighting, but otherwise I wanted to keep it fun. I wanted to keep it lighthearted, and and I think I accomplished that. You know, there's there's a lot of books out there with you know, with sightings and research that's going on. But I wanted to do something a little bit different, and you know, I just maybe have people smile and and get a chuckle out of some of the stories and so so yeah, you know it's they're available on Amazon or you know, Barnes and Noble type things, Walmart bookstores type things. So I do have those two books out, and yeah, we just uh, we we were back at the place that I had my sighting in the Washington Cascades. We were back there to two years ago. Now, yeah, we were back there, was it two years ago? And then and then we were also there back there last year. And last year we had stuff going on too. We had some we found on the one trail behind camp where we had just been down the night before. We found some rocks then lined up rocks placed that were placed during the night that we found the next

1:19:34 morning. And we had some other stuff going on. I think I saw some eye glow. Yeah, we had some some strange stuff going on too, you know, like when I when I saw the eye glow, myself and another investigator were in this one position and downhill or three other guys and they thought they said to me later they said that we had they thought they had heard something walking, that it would walk towards myself and this other investigator, and then it would like and then they would hear it coming back closer towards them. And when I saw the possible eye glow down there below me, I turned around and looked over my right shoulder and down in the little gully, very dark down there, and so you know, and that's where there's two spots, you know, down there, and I was like, what, it's pitch black down in there, you know, And so I said, you know, to the gal, the investigator next to me, I said, you know, hey, I think there might be eye glow down here. And I had the my flear and she had night vision, and we turned. She came around on my to my left shoulder, and she raised up her night vision and I was bringing up my flear but with

1:21:09 my naked eye. Then there was this flash of orange red light that went through the trees, and she she saw it through the night vision. Of course, she saw the light and it lit up her night vision, and so she saw it that way, and I saw it with with just my eyes, and you know, so you know, when it comes to that stuff. I don't know, you know, I don't know what that means. I don't know what that stuff is. You know, Yeah, you can get into the orbs. You know, orbs have been seen in that area before. Yeah, so you know, yeah so yeah, so you know, is that is that associated with the Bigfoot activity? That's you know, yeah, that's a whole other topic then going there. So but anyway, yeah, so I've been back to the back to the area where I had my sighting, continue to go around to North Idaho, uh Northeast Washington.

1:22:17 In the fall of twenty twenty two, I was on my deer stand in Northeast Washington and as the crow crow flies, it's about eleven miles from Bossburg, Washington. And those that can know the Bigfoot history, Bossburg is the Bossburg Cripplefoot, right in nineteen sixty nine, the Bossburg Cripplefoot. So anyway, I was on my deer stand and all of a sudden, there's you know, wood knocks ring out in the gully behind me below me in my deer stand, and you know, and I'm like, whoa, No, that sounds like wood knocks, you know, And and so I had that that happening, and so I was all and so, you know, I didn't get a deer that afternoon, that evening. So I was back in there the next couple afternoons, and I guess, you know, how do you confirm that something is a wood knock and not maybe a tree popping?

1:23:20 Again? If you know me, yeah, if you know me, I'm always trying to rule out things, you know. So well, I was back like the next you know, was it even free Sunday? Two d Wednesday. I was back there, you know, at least two more afternoons, eating the same weather conditions, and did not hear anything that sounded like wood knocks at all, you know, the next days and so yeah, so but the first afternoon, the opening day of the season, and and that late afternoon is when I heard these wood knocks behind me. Well, then the next spring, the next April, I'm in the same area and wild turkey hunting, and I stop and I was walking back into the timber, and I stop and get a drink of water. And I look over to my right and on this stump is this old glass bottle and you know kind of those antique is antique like bottles kind of thing. And it was sitting there flat on the stump, and there was a pine cone on top of it. And this was about two hundred yards away from where I was in the deer stand the previous October. And so I go over and I took the bottle. I brought it home, and I have a finger print kit finger dusting. I dusted it. I heard fingerprints, and the

1:24:55 only ones that were on there is were I picked it up just with my Yeah, and it only has the opening of like a half inch or so. And inside there were all these little narrow roots, a little small piece of the roots, and they were plant root and they were dried up. So it had been there for a while, and it, you know, the bottle had maybe even been there through the winter. I don't know, the pine cone hadn't. Okay, a pine cones is on top of a glass bottle laying flat on a stump. Okay, that's a once in a lifetime thing. And so but yeah, something, you know, stuff these roots in there. I doubt that a field mouse would have tried to have done that. I mean he would have. There wasn't enough in there to really make a nest in the sun shining through a glass bottle. It would just bake a little rodent, a little field mouse, you know. Yeah, And so you know, I can't see it surviving through the through the winter, a little field mouse or something surviving and they're trying to make a nest in there and surviving through the winter. Then let alone in the spring and having the sunshine on that. So somehow, like I say, yeah, it was filled with these little little roots and and then like I say,

1:26:30 pine cones sitting on top of it. Wild stuff. Oh, Kevin, you always have very interesting stories. If listeners want to hear more that are like this, I did interview Kevin h a few years ago, I believe. So you'll want to look through the the prior episodes and you can find that. But Kevin, thank you so much for calling up and for sharing some more stories about what you've experienced over the years. Yeah. I keep getting out there as much as I can, and then everybody keep getting out there and enjoying themselves and be safe. And thanks for staying in touch with me and so great show. Thank you. Well, you have a great night, Kevin. Good chatting with you, all right, Thank you, good night, oh man, wild stuff. Good good to talk to Kevin again. It's been a while big for society. Who will be right back after these messages. Guys, we got to over two hundred people live right now. Thanks to everyone for being here. I wanted to shout out and I don't know if he's still here, but let me let me look in the chat here. Where do you go? Hey, we got Randy from the Sensible Bigfoot Project. Guys, if you like a channel like this,

1:28:02 and also there's a ton of bigfoot research videos. Randy is doing some great bigfoot research and he also has some great interviews to you, so make sure you follow the Sensible Bigfoot Project. Let's see, I think I had one more here, let me check. All right, believe it or not, we're getting caught up, but I think we're going to try to call back one more person and watch the last one I call. This is going to be the one where it's going to be. It's got yeah, we'll see fingers crossed. Hello. Hi, this Jeremiah. Hey, this is Roger with a Roger. I thought you went to bed. No, I hadn't went to bed yet. Oh okay, thanks? Oh yeah. Oh first off, let me turn this fan off, y'all, sorry. Should we first off? Should we tell you? Yeah? You can't? All right, guys, this is Squatch and holler hey guys and guys, how a y'all doing? First, I want to congratulate you a little late on the getting over the thirty thousand mark. That's that's an agreeable thanks. Man.

1:29:33 We've been we've been chucked. I remember I remember the ten thousand when that hit. That was a big deal. But yeah, so uh quickly, I was at work and you know, I started a new job and I've been kind of busy with that. And how how this lady approached me. I'm known hers, she went school with her, and she was like, hey, is that you? Was that you podcast? And I'm like, I thought, whoa? She found my podcast? Where? Yeah? I have you know, no, somebody posted when you did the when you readid you know re released the one I did last year? Somebody posted it on the local Facebook page and I didn't know it and she and I'm like, wait a minute, and what are you talking about? So she explained, I'm like, oh, okay, I didn't I didn't know it.

1:30:27 It got there. So she proceeded to tell me about some strangeness at her house. Her dog started bringing bones of all different animals to the house. There's just on the other she owned several acres, her and my husband, and they're acquiring some more there at the and I'll get the twist here at the end. But so she went over the fence and found a think of a shed or something that had a lot of bones in it. And so, you know which that could be anything at Cody's whatever, And she's been hearing sounds. She had a cow that was killed strangely. I asked her several questions about that kill in certain parts of the body and what they look like, and she answered the crict. You know, she didn't know what she was answering, but it was very strange. And so the next day I got an email from somebody I don't know. He explained about some sounds he's been hearing strange smells, but you know whatever, and want me to come out and kind of look around. Well, here's the kicker the story that you guys heard me tell. I believe I told it on yours about the guy that almost hit the big foot in the jeep in two thousand and eight. It's the same area, exact same area Bose howls. That's hers

1:31:58 and the guy that emailed me. Yes, And so we have a confirmed sighting for somebody from somebody I trust. You know, when I told her who it was that saw it in two thousand and eight, she knew into she said like, oh my god. I'm like, yes, and that's right there where you live. So well, these two people that contacted me are neighbors, yes, and and it and that you know, they almost can throw a rock at each other's house and hit, you know, hit each other. Now, when I asked her where she lives and she told me, I was like, oh my god. And then when I asked him, you know where are you at? That's exactly where the big male was crossing in two thousand and eight. So apparently either you know, that's close to us where we do our you know a little investigations in the North End. You know, maybe there's some that move in that area or whatever.

1:32:56 But you know, when this was totally unexpected and because of your show, I mean they and somebody pasting it. Now I have an opportunity to go look and investigate and maybe put some of this together and maybe find a travel way, whether it's the river and or train tracks or whatever, and see, you know, because I've got I've been invited by both both people really to come and kind of yeah, like look around and the and the man he's the older gentleman. He has access to the big farm there and he said he can take me on to the big farm. And I told him about you know, the two thousand and eight deal and about the farmer that you know had seen the thing twice also, And it's just you know, these shows, I mean, y'all calling in. You never I've said this before. You never know who you're going to influence to going forward.

1:33:59 You know. Now we've got a cluster, right, so and I hear that's a good thing, but it's it's it's more people stepping forward. And it just blew me away, you know. It's it's so now I'm wondering how many people in the area have had strange happenings because the cow, the cow didn't trip and break its legs. It didn't. It was it was hung the way she explained it, it was hung up in the fence, not like it jumped from the other property to her property and got hung up.

1:34:42 It was hung up in the fence, like being dragged from her property to the other property. Does that make sense. That's that's a whole other level, you know. And and it was being dragged by the tail we know that, and a leg and apparently it got they got hung. And I don't know, Jeremia, it's just you know, and I know had my experience, and it's been a little crazy. I've had to take a little bit of time away from this. And two this time of year, what we found here with the high humidity then that heat, we don't have a lot of action, you know, even in night a lot of times. So I don't know whether they you know what I'm saying, like in talking in like we know for sure. But for those of you that are listening that hadn't heard my story, I actually saw one when I was fourteen.

1:35:31 So I'm not trying to figure out if it exists. I'm way past that and I'm not trying to prove it exists, you know, But when you get I don't care how much you do this, when you get a witness or when you get evidence, it's still shocking and I don't know if everyone will not be but it's exciting, you know, to have these people step forward and none of them have anything to gain. That's what you look at that she didn't, you know, she didn't come to me and say, hey, I want to be on your show. She was like, hey, I heard you talking, and I'm like, well, what got you into this? Well, we've had some strange things happening, and I, you know, I started looking and I found you know, it's just like everybody else. You start looking on the internet, and I think the first time I ever did it, it was like google Bigfoot in Tennessee, you know, and then things start popping up. People google their area.

1:36:32 And so now that you know, I did your show last year, and you know, you have Marshall County, Tennessee, and there's been a lot of people that have contacted me or come forward to other shows because of me finally stepping forward and putting going out on the limb and talking about what happened to me. And there's countless of people. So so you guys, when you I was listening early here and you call it and say, well, now this is what happened to me, and it wasn't that big of a deal. You know, I saw this, I saw that, well it may be a big deal to somebody close to you in your area to hear that. So keep keep telling your stories, keep coming out, and and it just it just builds. It's snowballs. And a year and a half ago, I was nervous talking on your show one hundred miles an hour, and then now and now it's like people are contacting me and I'm like, look, I'm not an expert, but I know a little bit, you know, and I can get you help. But it's amazing and people are not afraid anymore. It's just you know, and I kind of with this all right, and with this new job, I'm like, you know, I'm not I'm not like, hey, I'm gonna look for bigfoot and I've seen one and I kind of approached. I'm like, oh, definite, but but but no, it's it's been a positive thing, uh. People.

1:38:00 One lady overheard the conversation. A little while later, she came to me. It wasn't anything about bigfoot, but it was about ghosts and some strange, strange things she's had happened. And I think we all need people to talk to, you know, listen. So it's a good thing you're doing. Man. I just I appreciate it. I'll always, you know, appreciate what you did for me. And it was it's it's grown, and you know, like so from last year and I'm not you know, I'm not here to I'm not gonna make a living at it or whatever. I enjoyed learning and I enjoy the stories, and I got invited. I think it's August. I think it's all this tent hold on. If any of you guys are in the gals are in the Eastern Tennessee, Georgia, I think Tennessee, while man in Crypticon Minimal, Tennessee. I think it's Saturday, August tenth. I'll be there. I'm not gonna be selling anything.

1:39:04 I'll have you know, table set up, just I just want to meet people, you know, and you know, you share your stories if you want to keep it confidential that I'm all about that too, But stop by and say hey, I mean that's and if you have questions, I might can point you in the direction, you know, to talk to somebody or whatever. But it's just been a wild ride and I really appreciate you and you know, bigfit society, and I don't think you really I think you do realize in a way, but I don't think you really get it of how you're influencing people to talk to each other, you know, so, but I appreciate appreciate that, and guys and people. I'm sure a lot of people will be listening to this. So if you have stuff that you've experienced in Marshall County, like, you can reach out to me.

1:39:58 But you really need to reach out to Roger because it's important that a person that's in the area and that is collecting all the reports has all the reports. So Roger, can you share if there's a way for people listening to contact you? Yeah, just you know, it's the same as my little YouTube channels at squatching holler at gmail dot com and you send me an email And I also have a PO box. Send me an email if you we can correspond through that or whatever. Also, I got that set up. And because I know some people are older folks, like I'm getting to be in their snail mail type folks. That's cool. I mean I've received some awesome letters and notes and how do you really stuff you've dude, I have a PO box. I need to throw that out there too, put it, throw it out there because you have that. Right now, you have older people that do not. They've got to just their Bok phone, they've got whatever, they're listening to it on their grandkids tablet. They don't know how to email. Put your peel box out there and they will handwrite you letters. I promise, such a good idea, right, and it's amazing.

1:41:12 It's amazing to open up and just and somebody that took the time to you know, write out you know whatever. And it's just I never expected it. I didn't get into this. I got into this to get it off of my back. And then when I got it off my back, I wanted to learn as much as I could. And when I want it down, I started that. I started meeting people, talking to people, and I'm like, you know what, I can do this little show things. I can figure out the Internet. And it's been a blast and we've had so much fun with it, and we've been scared out of our There's been things happening that sometimes I'm like, man, should I keep going down this road because I mean, maybe pushing it a little bit? You know, I'm not that yes, but it's it's it's no. And I know I sound like I'm gushing, but I you know, I don't take up a lot of your time, but I just want to encourage everybody to share, you know. And you know with me, I do, I have a show, I do a few lives. I've taken a break because of your job. And but Jeremiah is gonna be there. He's there. He's the hardest working guy and in this in the podcast business and big Foot especially, and reach out to him. I mean, you never know who's listening and who you're going to inspire to to get that off their back. And

1:42:42 it's a great feeling. I told my story only a dozen times and and and I'm not that I'm bored of telling my story, but I will tell it to anybody that wants to listen, because I know, I know what you've been through and and here we So the only thing I know about Bigfoot that I actually know is what I've experienced. So I, you know, I want to learn from everybody and what I can. So maybe when if another opportunity arises, I'm ready for it, you know. And uh, and that's what that's just the nature of this, because you know, we speculate all the time. We'll sit around and talk and I wonder about this, and I wonder why this is and and I'm going to tell you now I've said it before. You have different people around the country that you have.

1:43:34 I have an experience of some kind, and somebody else does, and well, this is what they do well, and and people choose sides big for society. Who will be right back after these messages? H Well, my thinking is, maybe what if everybody's a little bit right, If you don't talk to each other, then you're not gonna solve anything, right, So you know, have your opinions, and I'm fluid with mine. You know, if I talk, if Jeremiah goes out, if you go out and you and Tate and y'all go do a documentary or whatever. Tater, I'll meet him one day, but but he's But if you go out, you guys, go out and have an experience and and then you know, you relay it to everybody through the through YouTube and whatever documentary. That's that's as good as gold to me because I know you guys, the way you think things through. You know what I mean, You're not going to let oh everything's a big foot, everything's this or that, So uh, guys, just just keep doing what you're doing. Man. I mean, thirty thousand is amazing, but I know I can see a hundred thousand coming and maybe a visit on Joe Rogan or something. You know, I'm not heard

1:45:08 about that, Roger, stop it, did I did? I have this conversation with you a little bit where I like, I wake up in the I wake up at night with a panic attack that it's going to happen, Like I literally up know that. I it's a it's a panic attack for me. So don't say that into reality. Hey, just a quick editor's note here. What I'm referring to is that I wake up in the middle of the night freaking out about the possibility of going on the Joe Rogan Show in the future. It's just a weird thing that I freak out about.

1:45:51 Not to say I've ever been contacted, but I just have a feeling and it would be weird. And ways, it's weird that Roger brought that up. Weird synchronicity. Anyways, let's get back to it. You bringing in, Yeah, you bringing in and look y'all, yeah, I love I take this subject seriously, but man, I loved ow fun too, And it's the people that I've met here now from all over. Really, you know, I've met a lot of people, and most of them there are some people that you know, in all walks of life, take themselves a little too seriously. But some of those people, how kind of put it there. I said it one time where I heard a guy that had a pH d. And he was, well, I'm not going to talk to the redneckd little amongst them, and blah blah blah. They say this, and they say that, well, you know, the burning bridges to this thing they're seeking. Yeah, you know, because I know some people like that that I've had some crazy experience. I found some of the my best evidence with those people. I mean, they're and they're hard to break into their circle. They have to trust you and me. You know, I'm just I never meet a stranger. And if somebody tells me, Roger, I'm gonna tell you something, do not tell this. It stays between us.

1:47:21 You got to earn that trust of stuff I get told never gets on the podcast. Man, It's crazy, it's crazy, right, like something stuff. You know, I've seen some pictures y'all. Oh my god, I'm not gonna say, I'm not going to mention anything. I'm not gonna but Jeremiah know, something happened close to me in the past week and I was a little bit involved with it. And but what it taught me was I posted something for somebody, for a friend to help out his business, and it little up on TikTok. It got about one hundred and thirty.

1:48:01 It was getting about five thousand views every five ten minutes, and I shut it down because because people I had a legit picture. It's not Bigfoot had a legit picture, and half the people are saying, that's a photo shop. I mean this sky I note all my life, you know, and it's photoshopped and that's not this person. And I'm like, what in the world's going on? And then I realized it's now y'all. I'm not saying go out and hunt a big foot and kill it, but it's going to take a scientist with a body, absolutely right, And then when that happens, you're going to have people that don't believe that. So I that kind of taught me a lesson. If I do find more footprints or whatever, I will share it, but I don't expect anything out of it. I had a discussion with a long time researcher a couple of weeks ago, and he's a Roger. He said, I found this evidence, and I found that evidence, and I put it out there, he said, and I was expecting a lot of people to be in and I've seen it and it's pretty amazing. And he said, it's crickets. Nobody cares. These said.

1:49:11 People are so distrusting nowadays because of AI and all these you know, things they see in movies. He said, this, this is legit. I had five people with me and I've watched the video and it's pretty amazing. And it's not that they don't care. They don't trust it. So I don't know what it's going to take. So just go out and have fun. You guys, talk to each other and you know it's real, but don't don't expect. I don't know. I don't know. If somebody drove up on the Courthouse Square with a with a body, I mean, would people believe it? Then well, look, my buddy, you know in two thousand and eight almost hit one. Yeah, if Eric would have just swerved at that thing. Wow, this this conversation wul't be happening.

1:50:01 But no, but but I don't know, thank you, just I appreciate everything you do. Take and the gentleman on earlier, everybody, everybody that shared their stories, keep doing it. Don't don't let don't let the nay says he Here's where I'm at right now, when I'm talking about something that somebody asked me about, and I'm trying to help them with what I know and what i've heard and what I've learned and what I think might be true with an open mind. And then somebody that's not in the conversation, they'll lie or they'll they'll say something. I just kind of look at them, like, you know, I'm in a different situation now, I'm more confident, and that person is the one that's uneducated about it. Right. So when some when people have when you tell some somebody something that scares them, whatever it is, usually the first reaction is to kind of laugh it off.

1:51:03 And and so I don't even get upset anymore, you know, I'm like, you know, okay, I mean, you know, my son, y'all, he's so funny. I can't get him to do mini podcasts. I found a hat today that was, uh it looked like crocodile dundee kind of sort of made in Australia at a thrift store. I bought it, had it on there and everybody's like, oh, that's cool, that's cool. My son posts under its like he said, crocodi sas squats dumb d You know you gotta laugh at the right. So all right, I don't take up all your time, ye man, Yes, sir, anytime.

1:51:48 Y'all have a great weekend, and uh, you know, come see me in August at at that in Tullahoma, and you know, stop by uh squatching. There's plenty of videos and there's a lot of evidence here and there, and just just check everybody out, you know, some of these small shows or some really good shows. Anyway, Thanks sir Roger, thank you. All right, bye bye guys. We have had a wild night. We're back at it. We are back at it again, so we are going to be hold on in the last few minutes. I just want to share a few things. If you have a big Foot encounter and you didn't want to call into the show, you can always email me directly at Big for Society at gmail dot com. If you want to join the Big For Society community you can. One way is to become a YouTube channel member.

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1:57:25 Her and I can get out here, we can tell our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out there listening it's too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give them the courage to come out. And now it feels so bad about it. Who cares what anybody thinks. I know what I saw, I know what's out there. That's all I care about. Please people know, Please let them know. If you ever see one of these things, you need to tell because if you don't, then shame on you, you know, shame on you