Bigfoot Society #344: We were Chased out of the Woods by Four Bigfoot: The Friend's Report

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in the show notes in Bigfoot Society, I've taken far too much of your

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time so far, so let's get
on with the show. A bit of

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an introduction before we get started.
You may remember Big for Society number three

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nineteen a while back that was Read
sharing his encounter in an undisclosed area of

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Iowa. That was a pretty intense
location. You may also remember that during

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that encounter there was another gentleman,
his friend Joshua, with him. Amazingly

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enough, a few days after I
interviewed Read, I was able to interview

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his friend Joshua to get his side
of the story. However, that was

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not for the podcast. Now,
I've been in contact with Joshua over the

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last few days and weeks, and
Joshua has gotten to the point where he

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is actually okay for me to release
his side of that encounter on the podcast.

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So, without further ado, I'd
like to release Joshua's side of the

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encounter that you first heard in episode
three nineteen. It's very interesting to hear

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Joshua's side of what happened. Enjoy. So I had a really interesting conversation

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with your buddy Read the other night, and yeah, so I this is

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kind of my thing I do on
the side. I talk to people about

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stuff like this, and I thought, so, the area you guys were

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in is very interesting because I've talked
to some old school Bigfoot researchers from the

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seventies and they bring it up,
but they can't remember why it was a

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big deal because they're really old.
So when he brought that up, I

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was like, Oh, this is
really interesting. And then you also being

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there, would be just interesting to
hear what it is that you remember of

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what happened. Yeah. Absolutely,
So it's odd. You know, I

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almost wasn't even there, Like Red
was going to go out there by himself

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and I had to work. And
then Wednesday, at about two pm,

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my boss was just like, hey, you know, he was going to

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Vancouver on vacation, and he's like, I don't have any work for you

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on Thursday, which was the next
day, and I was like, oh,

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okay, I guess I just have
the day off. And I was

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like, well, you mind if
I take Friday off. You know,

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my buddy was wanting to go camping, so I ended up That's how I

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ended up going, just kind of
the last minute thing. And so,

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you know, we were driving around
doing some rock hunting and things like that,

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which is a hobby of ours,
and we had never been to this.

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I had never even heard of it
before. I'm usually a shimmick guy,

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and the Yellow River State Forest had
been on my radar as a place

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that, you know, I had
never been before but would like to.

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My family does canoeing and things like
that down rivers, so it seemed like

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a good idea. And then so
we didn't get to until after the sun

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had gone down pretty much it was
already past the horizon was still you know,

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twilight. I joked that just kind
of like surrounded by this forest and

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I joked, and I said,
Harry, and the Henderson's say, you

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know, not not even thinking in
a million years that you know, we

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would run into anything like that,
you know, south of the point.

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And so we go in and we
started making camp, setting up camp.

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We drove past a few other campsites, like a like a like a bike

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path or not back a backpacking trail
that would have led to a camp site.

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And I don't I don't know the
name or recall the name of where

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we were. I know that we
got to campsite three and four, which

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were right next to each other.
And anyway, so as we're setting up

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camp, we hear something off in
the distance at the time where Reds had

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mentioned something like, oh, maybe
there's elk in the park, and I

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knew it wasn't elk, but I
just thought, yeah, something it was,

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you know, off in the distance. I didn't really have any idea

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what it could have been, but
I just kept I went back to what

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I was doing. And so we
were kind of, you know, not

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really being super quiet, so whatever
it was in there would have known over

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there. And so you know,
I was taking like my flashlight around and

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picking up firewood with my flashlight of
my phone and snapping photos. I see

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a snake, you know, so
kind of being loud and being you know,

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visible. And I got done picking
up all the firewood that I thought

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we would need for a while,
and I sat down in my chair and

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Ryan is there cooking a broworst.
He had just started cooking a broadwurst.

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And right behind us, right over
where I had been with my flashlight picking

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up firewood, right behind us,
we heard a whoop, a loud one

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like right behind us. And I
won't try to like it right now on

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the phone, but I immediately knew
that it was a big foot, just

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because you know, I've listened to
the Sierra sounds of things like that and

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known well enough that that's how they
communicate. You know, we listened to

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podcasts and things of that nature,
your podcast in particular, and and you

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know, just I guess our own
curiosity kind of led me to that knowledge.

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And I looked it right away and
said, that's a big foot.

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That's absolutely a big good. And
you could hear it talking like not to

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us, but you know, like
a combination of like a gibberish and a

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growl and like force exhales you know
what I mean, Like it's all in

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one sentence, and I wasn't really
scared of it. I didn't. I

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didn't think anything of it as far
as like it being terrifying. It didn't.

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It didn't like raise the hair on
my back or anything like that.

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I just it was like, Okay, well, isn't in the campsite,

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you know, But we figured it
was. I figured it was just trying

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to like, I don't know,
Prancas. It just seemed like that.

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I know that seems weird, but
you know, it wasn't trying to like

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be aggressive at that moment. And
so you know, that put us on

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alert. And you know, we
started hearing almost like a like a whispering

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wood knock, Like it was wood
knocks that weren't coming from the same direction

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I don't believe from the whoop,
but they were wood knocks that were not

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intended for us. Like it was
very much not like they were trying to

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they were trying to communicate with something
else, you know, with another big

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foot or something like. That's only
where they would make it out. That's

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why I called it like a whispering
knock, because it wasn't. It wasn't

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someone beaten on a tree, you
know, and definitely wasn't like a knock

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that was meant to scare us,
because you know, it wasn't very loud,

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even though it wasn't that far away, and pretty much we were just

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to the point where, you know, we started hearing some other things here

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and there sounds and you know,
you go along with that wood knock,

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and we were just like, okay, well we're not We're not going to

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go to sleep tonight, you know, we're just going to stay up.

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And just a few moments later,
I'm sitting it's kind of hard. Well,

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so where we're sitting right behind is
his tent and then his vehicle.

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Excuse me, his vehicle is like
right behind his tent, and my tent

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is very small. It's like a
pipe bike pack, so it's a very

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small tent. And where I was
sitting seated, I had more of a

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clear I guess acoustic clear hearing from
where we heard the whup, So I

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think I was probably getting more of
the sound. But it started I'm assuming

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it was a woman. So when
you go back and you listen to like

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the Sierra tapes, to me,
it sounds like one of those is a

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is a female bigfoot, just from
the way that you know, it vocalizes

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as opposed to one that sounds like
a man. And it seemed like the

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one that started getting angry with us
sounded more like it would have been a

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female bigfoot, and it was I
think so at this point in time,

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we were hearing something over there,
and we were using the flashlights on our

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camera trying to videotape because we were
hearing other sounds, you know, and

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we were trying to like, you
know, try to get that auditory you

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know, vocalization recorded somehow, and
it just seemed like whenever we stopped recording,

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would start talking again. And I
don't know it just maybe it was

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a coincidence, but it seemed very
odd that they would be silent when we

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were, you know, recording for
the most part. But I think that

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that one bigfoot was really pissed off
in our lights. You know, we're

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both got a flashlight. LEDs are
kind of annoying anyway to a human.

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You know, nobody likes having a
flashlight shine in their eyes. And but

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then it got very upset and it
was very loud, and it it sounded

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like like you know, like doing
stuff like that, but it was so

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loud, it sounded like it was
right in front of me, and there

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was nothing there, you know,
I couldn't see a thing, and I

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thought I literally stood up and yelled, that's a mountain lion, because I

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just my mind just could not comprehend
this crazy sound that I was hearing.

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And I stood up when I said
that, and immediately knew it was not

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I'm mountain lion because I just realized, like, that is not a sound

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that a cat would make, and
for that matter, cats don't whoop and

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definitely don't talk in gibberish. And
so I had actually picked up a hatchet

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at that point in time that was
sitting right next to the tent because I

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still thought that I thought that thing
was going to come around the tent and

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it sounded like it was right in
front of me. I thought it was

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right on the other side of his
tent and or maybe around the side of

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this vehicle, and it was kind
of disorienting because I just there was nothing

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there that I could see. And
later on, as being Red, were

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kind of reflecting on that after we'd
left, it was kind of apparent to

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me and I spent a lot of
time, you know, in nature,

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and it woulds and an animal that
was being aggressive towards us, that wouldn't

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have you know, they wouldn't they
wouldn't hair, you know, they'd be

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coming at us, you know what
I mean. Like if it was a

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mountain lion or something like that,
first off, they probably wouldn't even make

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it a sound. It would probably
just slink off into the dark, leaving

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us alone. Bobcats, you know, they don't attack unless you got a

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cornered But it was very big.
I could tell it was a big animal.

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And so we stood there for a
while trying to get a glimpse of

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what we were seeing, what we
were hearing. And Red saw it moved

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from like a tree to another tree, just on the edge of the forest,

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in the dark, just past where
our lights could reach, and that

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really spooked him, and so we
started. He didn't even want to pack

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his things, Like he didn't even
want to pack up his tent, didn't

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want to pack up, didn't want
me to pack up my tent as like

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I'm packing up my tent, you
know, And I just kind of,

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you know, made my argument that
if this, if this animal, or

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if this bigfoot was going to get
us or come and do something. It

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would have done it already. It
wouldn't be hiding over there and making these

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loud, aggressive sounds. And so
I convinced him to do that. You

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know, I broke down my tent. I helped him break down his tent.

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This took a while, and I
had my flashlight on my phone out

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the entire time, you know,
so that we could see because it was

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it was dark. It was pitch
dark, and so just and we weren't

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even rolling up our tents. We
were just stuff and stuff inside the vehicle.

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And okay, so I'm going to
roll back a little bit. When

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we first heard it wroup and talking, I had remembered that that sasquatch happens

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every once in a while, people
reported to being telepathic. So I'm immediately

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in my mind trying to talk to
this thing, you know, thinking hey,

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you know, we don't want to
trouble, you know, or just

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here to camp. Please leave us
alone. You know, I'm trying to

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like put off that vibe, put
out that vibe to if it can't hear

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me. And I know that sounds
crazy, and I never heard anything back,

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and I never you know, got
any kind of reaction that way until

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we were almost completely packed up,
and just as we were basically about to

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get into the vehicle close all the
doors, a male bigfoot. And I

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know this sounds wild and like made
a math in my mind's eye, and

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I mean as clear as day,
like it was standing right there in front

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of me, surrounded by like I
guess, like a blue aura. I

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saw a male bigfoot in my in
my mind's eye, like it was standing

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right in front of him, even
clearer than I could say even imagine my

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dad, you know, like I
told my dad after this happened, I

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said, I can't even imagine you
in my mind size as clear as what

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I could see that bigfoot, as
if it was standing right in front of

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me. It's what it looked like
in my mind. We'll be back with

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more Bigfoot society after these words from
our sponsors, And all it said was

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you make us laugh. And to
me, that is the most unbelievable thing

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to say. But it's also the
thing that really solidifies in me what it

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was that I that we were experiencing. Because I've never experienced anything like that.

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I've never experienced something so clear come
to me in my mind like that,

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And so, I mean, I
had no doubt in my mind that

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we probably did make these big foot
laugh. You know, we're acting,

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We're one. We're strange to them. You know, we're completely alien in

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our way of life, you know, getting into a car, getting out

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of a car, a tent,
a flashlight, you know what the hell?

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They have no context for what those
things are, or at least I

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assume they don't. And uh,
you know, we got in the vehicle

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and we drove away, and you're
still there. Yep, sure, am

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I just let people talk. So
I dig it. I mean, I've

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had other cryptid encounters in my life. You know, I've got a whole

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book that I'm writing on them.
And I had always joked that I'd never

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encountered a big foot, but I
knew his cousin, and so I don't

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know. I guess it's when people
say, did you see a bigfoot?

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Well yes, and no. You
know, I didn't physically see it standing

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in front of me, but I
saw it in my mind in a way

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that I really can't prove, you
know what I mean, Like it's I

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don't know, I know that sounds
like the craziest thing. And when I

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had heard, like in read stories
about Sasquatch, the part of them being

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telepathic I always thought was like the
hardest to believe. Before that night,

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I always like, yeah, telepathic
Bigfoot? You know, what does that

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even mean? You know, what
do you mean? Are they runting to

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you in your mind? And you
know, like does it sound like gibberish?

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But it wasn't. It was like
very short, very succinct, but

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very direct. It wasn't like some
passing, you know, like I connected

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with this thing and read its mind, you know, and it was very

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much that it was, you know, purposefully communicating at us or at me.

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And I don't know, man,
that just seems to me. It

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just seems like, you know,
I would be more apt to say,

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well, maybe you know, other
than the woot and then the giberation things

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like that, I mean, it
also points to the to the same thing

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that I totally didn't expect to ever
encounter that And you know, in the

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middle of Iowa, maybe in like
you know Yellow River State Forest up there

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right, you know, Yeah,
that's a finding Bigfoot. You know,

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that's where they went, right,
So that's where you would expect it.

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That's so weird man, we'll hear
this. So where we were is in

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between two ponds. There's like a
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yep, and it's this ridge,
you know, the road goes down this

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kind of at the top of this
ridge, and there's this pond on the

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left hand side, you know,
kind of to the northeast or exees me

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to the west. And then there's
this other pond. Well, one of

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the ponds is called this mind pond, right, It's like, so,

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what is this mind that that they're
referencing when they're naming that pond? What

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are they living in that mine?
You know, like a cave? And

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is that why they're there other than
the fact that it's this huge tract of

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forest and prairie. So I don't
know. That's sind of a weird clue

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that it makes me wonder if there
is an underground you know world there that

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they exactly and deliberately and maybe that's
where they've been hiding, because I've often

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believed that, you know, they
talk about people finding you know, sasquatch

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nests and things like that, but
I've never seen anybody a sasquatch researcher go

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into the caves. You know,
I never see him do that, you

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know, and maybe that's a wild
goose chase. But to me, at

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the right time of the day or
excuse me, the right time of the

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year, you know, maybe that's
where they are at certain times, staying

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cool. It's probably where they're at
right now when it's one hundred and fifty

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degrees outside, and I wouldn't.
I wouldn't. Man, it's it's hot

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out. Well, I mean you're
I'm guessing you're in Iowa as well,

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so it I mean where we are, it's it's I grew up in Yeah,

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I grew up at Fort Madison,
and you know, I've had like

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weird stuff, you know, like
one time, so when I was a

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kid, I grew up This is
gonna sound weird. I grew up in

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a weird family. Like my dad. You know. It was a trapper.

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You know. We have you know, turtles, you know, and

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my dad would sell them. You
know, he had like a trapper's license.

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We would hunt raccoons, you know, we had packs of coon hounds.

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I'd go out hunting coons, you
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be out, you know, at
night any given weekend hunting raccoon, you

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know, a night with a pack
of hounds, and you know, my

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dad and you know, maybe some
of his buddies, but you know,

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definitely me and my older brother,
whether he liked it or not, you

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know, we were out there hunting
raccoon all night long. And you know,

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we didn't have a dog with us. And I often think that sometimes,

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you know, bigfoot are more likely
to show themselves to people who don't

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have animals, because you know,
that's and for that matter, I think

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a lot of cryptids are that way, some of the other cryptids that I've

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encountered in my life. You know, I think that maybe if we if

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I had had a dog with me, I would have never seen them.

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Sure, so Madison is an interesting
town. That's where I grew up.

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And I don't know, I don't
know if you want to hear all the

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other cryptids stories, but I do
have a few questions about the Stevens thing

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as well. So let's see,
did you guys, so it sounds like

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you left pretty quick, did you
have did you have to leave anything behind?

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Or were you able to pack everything
up? I wanted to leave it

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all and come back in the morning, and I said, no, it's

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like we're going to pack it all
up tonight. You know, I'm not.

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I never I never felt any spear
out of you know. I think

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that the one that sounded angry,
that was really being vocal, that was

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like, okay, time to go, you know, the one that really

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put us on edge. I just
I do think that it was just like,

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hey, man, get that fucking
flashlight out of my eyes, you

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know what I mean, right,
And you got to get the fuck out

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of here at this point, you
know, because we were probably being annoying.

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You know, they probably started out
maybe curious. You know, I'm

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sure they heard the car doors,
you know, when we showed up at

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the very least, you know,
they knew, so I wanted to be

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Maybe they don't like the smell of
bratwurst, you never know, like who

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knows, you know, thinking about
maybe that might have been bad, you

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know, because they were out there
hungry all damn day for food, you

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know, foraging, which I forage
a lot of mushrooms, you know,

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wild mushrooms, and I know how
hard that can be and frustrating that could

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be. And then for someone to
show up with start cooking and fucking brought

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worst and you're hungry. You know, they could be in the diva.

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You know, you better get it
at a Snickers bar. You know,

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it's upset, and maybe that's part
of it. Maybe they have I mean,

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I think they're very intelligent, and
you know, maybe that was the

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goal, was to scare us off
our campsite. Hopefully leave some food bond.

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That would be funny. But you
know, and we talked about all

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kinds of stuff after that, you
know, Like I mean, the first

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thing we went and did when we
was driving was listening to this Year Sounds

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tape and I was like, my
god, I can't believe it. I

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can't believe like what I was like, that's that is absolutely what I heard.

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But like imagine the Sierra sounds and
then imagine them being pissed off,

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talking right, really pissed off,
and that's what it sounded like. When

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we was like, okay, right, that was what That's what had us

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on our feet, you know what
I mean. And but that's exactly what

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it was. And you know,
so when we first got there and Read

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had mentioned that that the sounds that
we heard off in the distance, he

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had mentioned something about you know,
it sounds like there might be elk in

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the woods. And I heard those
sounds, and at the time, I

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didn't think bigfoot, you know,
I just thought, oh, yeah,

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something over there. I didn't think
it was elk. I knew it wasn't

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an l but I was like,
yeah, it's something, huh. And

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but I just went back to do
my thing. And then later on I

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realized that those were indeed whoops.
They're like whoa speak with some of them,

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you know, but they were way
off in this. They were farther

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away. And when that one whooped
right behind us, I mean it was

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right behind us. And I think
they're probably pretty good at like throwing their

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voice, which is why when it
was yelling at me and it sounded like

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it was right in front of me, there was nothing there, you know

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what I mean, right, and
it still sounded like a big ass animal,

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you know, like it was like, dude, Oh what am I?

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What am I experiencing? You know
I was. I was more confused

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than skipped and terrified. I was
like, what the hell is going on?

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I fully expected these have been standing
there and well the whoops that you

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heard the first time, that were
like they were kind of out in the

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distance. What what direction from where
you were? Because I have I have

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some pictures of a map of the
area that he sent over. But do

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you think they were near that other
that mind pond, or like what direction

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the other if you remember? So
it's hard for me to like get a

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direction in my mind where I was, but I believe so. Okay,

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So imagine that we're standing in the
campsite, right campsite three and four,

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Yeah, and you turn around and
you face the road, the road that

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goes by the camp site. The
loud loop was right inside the tree line,

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right on the other side of that
road, and if you were to

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continue to go down that road,
I think that's north, if I'm not

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mistaken, it would be. So
I think the first loops that we heard

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were closer to that other pond,
So I think that's where we first heard

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them. But the tree knocking was
kind of over to like on our side

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of the road at So that's what
I heard. It's hard for me to

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tell on those because they were so
quiet, and the way things the forest

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is hard to determine. But both
of what we heard, the wild mop

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right behind us and the previous groups
were coming from that direction towards that okay,

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and I think they were down probably
in that near that pond when they

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first started whooping. Yeah, I'd
love to go back, try to get

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a camera going, you know,
and be more prepared next time, you

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know, Yeah, because it's like
hard. I don't think it came out

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when he was talking to me a
few nights ago. But so you guys

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actually did try to record the audio
as it was happening, and you just

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weren't able to look that up.
Yeah, let me see if I even

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got I haven't even go back and
listen to them. Oh man, you

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got. I didn't think I got
anything. You got to listen to that

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audio, dude. Well we listened
to it once in the car, okay,

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but it was like god, I
actually got more videos on the phone.

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And there's other other creatures in there, you know, like owls probably

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yeah, yeah, yeah, there's
cicadas all over right now. Yeah.

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I kept hoping like maybe our flashlights
would illuminate some kind of eye glow or

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something like that, but our flashlights
just weren't weren't powerful enough. If you

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do, if you did happen to
record anything that sounds remotely, like weird.

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If you want to send it over, you can totally do that and

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I can listen to it too,
Okay, throwing that out there, I

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have emails Bigfoot Society at gmail dot
com and then you know, you've got

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my phone number as well. He
said that he did actually see something in

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the woods for yeah, that was
really Yeah. So when we were like

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standing there trying to like flashlight see
and he's seen it, and that was

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when he was like time to go, and that like it really spooked him.

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I don't know what it was.
Maybe that finally made it real seeing

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it move, but that was when
he wanted to pack up, or not

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even pack up, he wanted to
leave and come back in the morning and

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get his stuff. That was what
he's seen it move. And I didn't

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see it. But it is night, you know, and honestly, I

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wish I would have ever turned my
flashlight on because it really ruined you know,

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like you ruin your fucking night vision
if you turn a light on.

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Absolutely yep, you know. And
I've spent enough time in the woods at

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night, you know, coonat and
and other stuff. I camp all the

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time, you know, we get
out in river bottoms. You know,

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we really roughly we canoe down the
Iowa River things like that and camp on

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sandbars and stuff. We'll be back
with more bigfoot society after these words from

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our sponsors being my family, like
my brother and uncle and things like that,

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and we could, you know,
get out into the woods quite a

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bit. I was gonna say earlier, when I was a little kid in

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the eighties, I was down in
Devil's Creek and I saw footprints down in

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there in the mud. And as
a kid, you know, I just

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thought, Oh, those must be
my dad's feet, you know what I

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mean, He's big ass feet.
And then as a as I grew older,

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I realized how out in the middle
of fucking nowhere I was, and

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I was like, why would there
be Why would my dad have his shoes

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off, you know what I mean, Like it just didn't make any sense

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to me, and I never really
even thought about it, so, like,

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you know, only recently just like
what the hell was that actually a

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bigfoots food, you know, And
I just assumed that it was my dad

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at the time, but it was
like, what part of Iowa was that?

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And I've never I haven't heard of
Devil's before Lee County, Iowa,

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Lee County, Okay. So it
turns ago. It's a weird it's a

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weird creek. So it turned turns
into Sugar Creek. There's like two sugar

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creeks down there. But okay,
Sugar Creek turns into Devil's Creek. And

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I lived next to Devil's Creek for
years as a kid. And anyway,

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that it's like a kind of empty
empties right into the Mississippi River. Dear

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Montrose, Iowa. Oh sure,
yeah, gotcha in Montrose. And that's

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really interesting geological area down there.
I've spent a lot of time researching that

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topography, just trying to get a
better understanding of my home. Maria.

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And yeah, I don't know.
A few more questions, just really blunt.

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Were you guys, had you had
anything to drink or anything like that?

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No? Actually so right. Red
doesn't drink, okay, And I

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had thought about getting some beers earlier
in the day, but you know,

408
00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:29.200
it never came to fruition. And
I'm not a big drinker. I mean,

409
00:32:29.240 --> 00:32:31.640
I'll drink from time to time.
But I actually thought we was going

410
00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:36.079
to get there, you know,
maybe converse for a little while and go

411
00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:39.200
to bed and get up early,
right, you know, do some exploring.

412
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:44.359
And so I wasn't liking this mood
that I was going to go in

413
00:32:44.359 --> 00:32:47.400
there and get drunk and you know, party or nothing like that. So

414
00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:54.880
I didn't even bring any beer with
me. Do you remember anything about how

415
00:32:54.920 --> 00:33:00.599
he described what he saw when he
saw the creature for a little bit,

416
00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:09.400
just that it was blacked okay,
yep, and then it moved from I

417
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:19.000
think one tree the next, gotcha, And that what he had mentioned it

418
00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:23.400
was near like there's a part when
he had mentioned that there was a large

419
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:28.880
like cottonwood tree or something like that. Yeah, there seems to be like

420
00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:31.400
a big tree that's kind of right
near the road or the trail. I

421
00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:35.680
think it's actually called a trail,
like trail one thirty seven or something like

422
00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:40.359
that on the map. Okay,
So it would be it wouldn't be the

423
00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:44.640
way. It wasn't the way that
we came. It would have been the

424
00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:50.480
direction from which we earned the first
whoops, Okay, gotcha, there's a

425
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:54.559
giant tree. I don't know if
it's a giant tree, but godwoods get

426
00:33:54.559 --> 00:33:59.880
prepaid, right. I think it
was a monster totten would by any me

427
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:04.279
if it wasn't even an Is that
the area where he had seen the creature?

428
00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:09.079
Was that totally different area? What
do you mean like he had so

429
00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:15.239
he had seen it move from tree
to tree in the woods. Was that

430
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:20.079
near that that large cottonwood tree or
that was a totally different area of camp.

431
00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:24.119
No, yeah, that's where he
said he gotcha, got you,

432
00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:27.440
got you, got you. And
I don't know. I think he said

433
00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:31.519
it moved to the right and left
to right, but I'm not really sure

434
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:35.519
on that one. Okay, no
other campers and that you saw in the

435
00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:38.519
park. No, That's the thing. It was funny to you because we

436
00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:45.679
were like, as we were driving
in, there's like this something Cabins hotel

437
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:51.760
or motel that's near the park.
It was absolutely packed with people, really

438
00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:57.840
like everyone in there. And I
was like, man, there's camp inside.

439
00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:01.159
I thought that because there were so
many people at that hotel that we

440
00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:09.880
would see people, you know,
like campers. But there was no campers.

441
00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:15.960
There was no one we saw.
We saw absolutely no one in anywhere

442
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:17.599
near that park. There wasn't a
car on the side of the road,

443
00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:22.320
you know, there was nothing.
And you know, as we as we

444
00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:27.199
were leaving and driving out of that
area. You know, we passed by

445
00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:31.400
that place again, all the same
vehicles and all stuff there, and it

446
00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:37.039
made me realize because you know,
we were talking about you know what if

447
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:40.320
the locals, you know, maybe
maybe those big foot thought we might have

448
00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:45.679
been someone else, you know what. You know, maybe there's people that

449
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:50.960
know those beings are there and go
out there and for all, for all

450
00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:52.400
we know, they could be traded
with them, who knows, or beating

451
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:58.840
their friend and we don't know.
Maybe maybe it's then the big thought,

452
00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:00.119
you know, and that's why they
were moved in the first couple of times.

453
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:04.440
Well, seems we would move back. I don't know if these things

454
00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:12.159
are migratory or whether they're more likely
to be in that area in August because

455
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:15.679
of the water mm hmm. And
it's been a drought, so maybe they

456
00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:21.400
druim man. I don't know.
Yeah, he know. Yeah. Oh,

457
00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:25.000
last thing, did you guys run
into any did any DNR show up?

458
00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:32.199
No? Really, that's interesting,
Okay, why would you would you

459
00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:39.639
assume that they were I've heard all
I've heard that in Iowa parks that they

460
00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:45.039
usually show up pretty quick, but
who knows. They may have had an

461
00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:47.800
off night or something. But that's
just something I've heard from different people who

462
00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:52.320
are so maybe you know, they
might have drove through. I actually have

463
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:53.920
a friend that used to work for
the DNR here in Iowa. He lives

464
00:36:53.960 --> 00:37:00.519
out he works for the Utah DNR
now, and I was actually I was

465
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:02.719
actually talking to him. I had
actually just sent him. So I had

466
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:08.920
just seen when I was picking up
firewood, I seen a smooth earth snake,

467
00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:15.039
which is like a brown cake,
and I was I took flash photos

468
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:16.039
of it. I was taking quite
a few photos trying to get a good

469
00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:19.440
picture of it, you know,
because it's dark, right, and almost

470
00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:23.400
depped on it. And so I
had sent him that because he used his

471
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:30.039
job used to be to count snakes
and you know, within the DNR and

472
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:32.760
you know, other duties and things
like that. But he actually had to

473
00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:39.239
move because the DNR just isn't very
well funded in the state of Iowa unfortunately.

474
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:44.280
Yeah, And so you know,
whenever I don't see a DNR,

475
00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:46.840
it doesn't surprise me because I know
they got shipped for funding it. And

476
00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:51.119
it was also, you know,
ten o'clock, you know, ten thirty

477
00:37:51.159 --> 00:37:57.480
at night when we left, so
we'd probably been there. I mean it

478
00:37:57.480 --> 00:38:00.320
doesn't seem like we were there a
few hours, but it really makes you

479
00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:06.199
think wonder, like how long it's
been since someone has been in that forest.

480
00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:08.519
Then if you know, maybe if
d n R is not showing up

481
00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:13.079
and if like so, your buddy
Red said that all the fire pits had

482
00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:20.199
grass growing in him. You know, yeah, it's it's wild. Nobody

483
00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:23.519
can's there but that that, you
know, there's gotta be a reason for

484
00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:28.039
that. Yeah, you know,
we're not. There's no way were the

485
00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:31.960
first people that were shoot off by
these things, you know, or made

486
00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:36.639
to feel uncomfortable? Who knows.
Man, you don't think there's any missing

487
00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:39.320
four to one once coming out of
a yeah, you know, hope not

488
00:38:40.039 --> 00:38:45.519
unless someone goes in by themselves,
which is yeah, yeah, but thank

489
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:51.639
god he didn't go there by himself, Thank God. Might imagine I would

490
00:38:51.639 --> 00:38:53.920
have been a completely different outcome,
you know what I mean, like he

491
00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:58.719
he was. And maybe it's just
because I've spent so much time in the

492
00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:01.199
forest at night. Yeah, you
know as a kid that I just you

493
00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:07.559
know, I grew up in the
country and I just I'm a pretty big

494
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:12.400
dude too, you know, So, like it's not like an animal is

495
00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:20.519
gonna being being Red talked about what
would have happened if someone else had been

496
00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:24.840
there and they got scared and started
running? Mm hmmm, what would have

497
00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:30.719
happened, you know what? Or
you know what if I didn't have you

498
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:35.360
know, the lack of fear that
I did. You know, they have

499
00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:39.920
been up on that since they seem
to be telling you know, like I

500
00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:43.920
don't know, you know, it's
I had a lot of questions. I

501
00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:46.199
mean, it's just like any other
discovery, you know, it kind of

502
00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:55.159
makes you question more things. But
it was Yeah, well, first,

503
00:39:55.199 --> 00:40:00.119
thank you for sharing your viewpoint of
what happened that was. It's it's very

504
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:06.079
rare that I get to talk to
more than one person about an interaction.

505
00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:10.000
So that is very a very cool
thing that I was able to talk to

506
00:40:10.039 --> 00:40:15.480
two different people about the same thing. Absolutely. Yeah, if you get

507
00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:21.039
if you get a few minutes to
like listen to everything you recorded with with

508
00:40:21.159 --> 00:40:25.639
headphones, like, if you notice
anything, just not be afraid to hit

509
00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:30.239
me up. And I don't even
know if maybe Red got some stuff recorded

510
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:35.519
to or is it just you that
was recording. I don't know if you

511
00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:39.679
recorded, Yeah, gotcha gotchak.
Hopefully I hope there's at least something on

512
00:40:39.719 --> 00:40:47.039
these. You know. That's what's
weird is that as loud as this thing

513
00:40:47.239 --> 00:40:52.800
sounded at the end. Mh.
I know that I am recording around that

514
00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:57.559
time, because when I got the
recording of me like standing up and like

515
00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:00.599
like yeah, and that's got it. You know, it's got to be

516
00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:04.519
a mountain long. And you know, I just I was trying to rationalize

517
00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:07.880
whatever the hell this thing was making
so much noise? Oh you have that

518
00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:10.920
on tape. Yeah, I have
me saying that, Holy mac wow.

519
00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:19.360
But but I don't I don't hear
anything, you know what I mean,

520
00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:25.360
Like maybe it's just that it's not
a very good recording, but so you

521
00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:30.039
would think very loud. To me, it sounded very loud like it was

522
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:37.119
like, I mean, I thought
we were getting charged. I know.

523
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:40.159
That's what I know. Guys that
can really dig into audio really good.

524
00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:47.760
It's up to you. But if
you if you send it, yes,

525
00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:52.559
send everything you got over to to
my email. So you know, of

526
00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:57.679
like the Olympic Project guys, they're
good with audio. The guys out in

527
00:41:58.360 --> 00:42:00.920
I'm I'm worse with that. I
am, okay, So I'm saying that

528
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:07.639
I haven't heard of those anything.
They make it apart. Yeah, so

529
00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:13.519
but yeah, definitely feel free to
send over everything you got and that would

530
00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:17.239
be awesome. Man, what is
the email again? It's a Bigfoot Society

531
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:25.440
at gmail dot com. Bigfoot Society. I got it. Cool. Yeah,

532
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:29.039
I'll go back and I'll send it
anyway. You know, I've watched

533
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:36.360
what's the guy the Bob Gimblin Yeah, or he takes a part of the

534
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:39.559
Patterson tape, you know, and
shows things like, you know, Redwood's

535
00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:45.760
Hide in the Shadows and things like
that. And you know, I mean,

536
00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:47.840
people are wizards when it comes to
being able to pull stuff out of

537
00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:53.679
audio exactly. You know, so
I don't doubt it if I can't necessarily

538
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:57.679
hear it. And that's what's weird. If it would have been like you

539
00:42:57.719 --> 00:43:00.920
know, I understand things like,
you know, electronic voice phenomenon, stuff

540
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:06.639
like that. You know, ghosts. Yeah, I've had my share fair

541
00:43:06.679 --> 00:43:14.559
share of ghost encounters in life,
but yeah, definitely like ghosts, I

542
00:43:14.559 --> 00:43:20.559
don't know. Man, Thank you
for thank you for reaching out, Joshua.

543
00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:23.360
This has been it has been a
fun chat, dude. Absolutely well.

544
00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:28.199
I appreciate you hearing me out and
it's it's nice to know that there

545
00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:32.360
are people that are like yourself that
are furthering around. I just seeing the

546
00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:37.480
thing the other day that actual researchers, like scientists are no longer like just

547
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:47.159
you know, you know, how
was the word you know, just outright

548
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:52.239
denying the existence of that. It's
no longer. Absolutely, it's no longer.

549
00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:58.920
I mean, there's just so many
things. So we have cameras and

550
00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:04.599
everybody's got and there's just too many
people that are like encountering these these these

551
00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:12.079
beings, and I mean that's what's
wild. As soon as it moved behind

552
00:44:12.159 --> 00:44:16.280
us, as soon as it did, I knew what it was, do

553
00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:20.960
you know what I mean? Like
I knew it wasn't a person, you

554
00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:23.360
know, trying to pretend to be
a bigfoot. You know, it was

555
00:44:23.480 --> 00:44:36.079
just too perfect. It was just
like, please leave your message for Yasha,

556
00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:50.679
would hey Joshua, Hello, hey, y Yes, I'm here.

557
00:44:50.760 --> 00:44:52.960
Sorry about that, man. I
thought I had it plugged in and it

558
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:58.639
fell out of the wall. So
eventually sorry man uh, but yeah,

559
00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:00.719
I saw you. We were sending
some texts to you. Actually, do

560
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:06.599
hear something I do? Actually right
before I right before I say that's the

561
00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:12.039
Mountain Lion, I can actually hear
it. No way, Yeah, this

562
00:45:12.159 --> 00:45:16.639
way, I hope, I hope
send it you guys, send a brother

563
00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:28.480
right now. Holy Max Anciety Gmail. Yeah, god, dude, can

564
00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:34.239
you imagine if it's like and it's
sad because I only got the very end

565
00:45:34.360 --> 00:45:36.960
of it because at first, like
yeah, before I pressed the cord,

566
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:42.440
when it was like mad, I
was kind of jocked by what I what

567
00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:45.719
I was hearing. Okay, I'll
send you a text, so I sweet

568
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:47.840
I. We'll definitely want to forget
it out to get it six of you.

569
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:51.639
So yeah, I appreciate you taking
the time to do that. Joshua,

570
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:55.199
no problem, all right. If
there's anything I can do to help,

571
00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:59.679
don't be afraid to reach out and
we'll be in touch. Okay,

572
00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:02.239
dude, Okay, sound good,
all right, talk to you later.

573
00:46:02.320 --> 00:46:07.639
Man. Here at Bigfoot Society,
our goal is to provide a platform for

574
00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:13.760
those that have encountered Bigfoot to share
their encounter and a safe and respected environment.

575
00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:17.239
But we need to hear your story. If you've experienced something that you

576
00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:24.039
just can't explain, please send me
an email at Bigfoot Soociety at gmail dot

577
00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:29.079
com. Then we can start the
conversation. I know a lot of you

578
00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:36.000
have not shared your encounter at all. It's been twenty years and it's time

579
00:46:36.079 --> 00:46:39.000
that you get this off your chest
and then you can get some well deserved

580
00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:44.519
for rest because I know you haven't
been sleeping. I understand what you're going

581
00:46:44.559 --> 00:46:46.199
through, and I appreciate every one
of you listening