Sept. 13, 2024

Bigfoot Stalked our Property in Oklahoma!

Join host Jeremiah in this thrilling episode of Bigfoot Society as he sits down with Steve Arney from Oklahoma. Steve recounts his spine-chilling encounters with Bigfoot and other paranormal activities on his 10-acre property, near the historic Trail...

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Season 1

Join host Jeremiah in this thrilling episode of Bigfoot Society as he sits down with Steve Arney from Oklahoma. Steve recounts his spine-chilling encounters with Bigfoot and other paranormal activities on his 10-acre property, near the historic Trail of Tears. From ghostly experiences and mysterious growls during hunting trips to an unforgettable Bigfoot sighting, Steve's tales weave together native legends, biblical references, and personal anecdotes. Dive into the eerie beauty of Oklahoma's wilderness and explore the possibility of a spiritual connection to these cryptid sightings. This episode will leave you pondering the mysteries that lurk in the deep woods.

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slash the Bigfoot Society and now let's get on with

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the show, all right, Big for Society. We got the

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privilege of talking to mister Steve Arnie today. He's from

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the great state of Oklahoma. And how's it going down there, Steve?

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Man, it's going good. I'm having a good day. How

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are you today?

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You know, I'm doing great working on podcast stuff, being

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able to talk to people about Bigfoot. It's a great

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day and I cannot complain. And weather's pretty good up

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here in Iowa. Actually it's not too hot. But man,

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you reached out and we've been chatting kind of back

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and forth a little bit, and it sounds like you've

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had some really interesting things that have been going on

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down there. So I'd love to kind of hear what

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you've got going on there.

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Man. Yeah. Yeah, So, like Jeremiah said, my name is Steve.

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I'm actually from Emerald of Texas. I moved to Oklahoma

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eleven years ago my wife and son. He's a Texas fan,

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she's an Oklahoma fan. So it's always fun around here.

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So but we've moved out here eleven years ago, and

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you know, from being from Emoral, I've always hunted and fished.

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My Papa Turner taught me the love of the outdoors

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and respect of the land. Always keep it better than

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you found it. Right. If you see trash, pick it up.

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That actually drives me crazy, but I won't get on soapbucks.

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So anyway, so I'll pass that on to my son.

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He's now thirty three. It's amazing how fast time flies.

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But shout out to him. He did eight years in

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the Navy, and very very proud of him. And so anyway,

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I've also got a twenty nine year old daughter, a

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nineteen year old son, and yes, I'm the idiot that

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has a twelve year old daughter too, and so it's

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always fun. But when we moved to Oklahoma, it was

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like moving from high desert, if you will, to a

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very foothills mountainee giant oak trees. I mean, dude, so seriously,

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forgive me. I call her bady dud. When my wife

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found our place, she asked me if I'd moved to

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Oklahoma because her daddy lived in the city and he

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was starting to get down in help right, he was

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at the age where he was losing his health. So

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I said, look, I've got tons of family there. I

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love Oklahoma, so let's go. But you cannot tap me

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into move it into the city. Too many people, too big,

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too crazy. So been country all my life. We bought

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ten acres, and Jeremiah, to give you an idea, it's

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a mile off of a two lane highway on a

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dirt road, and then our place. You drove through five

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acres of oak trees to even see the house, and

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so it was like a kind of a big s

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to drive through the oak trees and then see the house.

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And I looked at her before we even saw the house,

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I said, I sure hope you like this place because

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we're buying it. And if we did, and it was

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paradigm for me, right, so we we There was a

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little country house there that was built incredibly well. Everything was.

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I did a little construction work. It was all built

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on two bus six. There's an old farmhouse, but just

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beautifully done with little pop elly stove in it. And

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uh so, anyway that the house needed a little work,

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we set in on doing that. But here's the deal,

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even though I was still part time working at that time,

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if I have my way, I'm going to be in

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the woods. So immediately I was in the woods behind

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our house. Which this is something that I've never heard

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anybody really get into. But I think that this has

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a big reason for having so many big foot sightings

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in Oklahoma, so many encounters, so many A lot of

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my encounters are just things I heard, not saw. Is

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our house backed up to it tear dropped down three

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times if you can imagine that behind the house into

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the woods that I made into my little deer hunting area.

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But the last tear drop that leveled out into a

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valley was the Trail of Tears. Okay, and most people

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don't talk about that the Trail of Tears was a

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horrible time in America or not half I'm sorry. Let

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me restate that I have Cherokee blood in me. My

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great grandmother was full of blood Cherokee. On a little sidebar,

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I think you ought to start taking notes of how

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many people that either know or are friendly with natives

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this deals with, because I just think it's a big

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part of its Trail of tears. It is. It's a

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large man well, the trail of tears. I mean, our

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history is being lost to us because they don't teach

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it in school anymore, as far away as from Georgia,

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maybe even in Florida. Probably in Florida, they pushed Native Americans,

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and the Cherokee always wanted to be known as a

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civilized tribe. They wanted to get along because they knew

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if they didn't want what happen. Probably so they always

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wanted to be a civilized tribal. It didn't matter when

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gold was found in Georgia. Most people don't realize that

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there was a lot of gold there. When gold was

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found there, they pushed the Cherokee and all other natives

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into Oklahoma, Okay. And when I say pushed I mean it.

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They the Calvary was pushing people on foot in the winter,

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whether they had clothes or not, whether they had good

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shoes or barefoot, whether they were babies or grandmas. They

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all had to walk to Oklahoma from think about it,

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from Georgia, dude. So it was so bad that if

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someone died along the trail, which many, many, many did,

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you could bury them, but you couldn't put a marker

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on their grid. Okay, total crap, total disrespect. But so

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like I say, keep that in mind. Our home back

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up to the Trail of Tears and is a beautiful valley.

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And if you didn't know the history, no reason. I

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knew it, as a gentleman that lived down there told me.

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But if you didn't know the history, you were never

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thought about that. Well. The other thing about that is,

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I'm fairly certain I can't prove it, don't want to

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prove it, do not want to mess with it whatsoever,

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and did not. When we lived there. There was two

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rock piles that were if you can see an old

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Western in your mind where they would bury someone out

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on the prairie, that's exactly what they looked like. Okay,

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And so I want you guys, dear my in the

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listening audience, I want you to start getting your hackles

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up because they need to be it because this land

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was highly charged plan and when I say highly charged,

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it was paranormal big time. But that's that'll get into

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the story a little bit later. So anyway, I get

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the land cleared. I'm so excited to have a beautiful

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piece of paradise barred a neighbors. Tractors started digging a

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pond and got the pond done. It was never really

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big enough, so I hired some professionals to come in

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and dig it for me, and they did a fantastic job.

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Then I stopped it with bass croppie perch. There wasn't

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a big pond, probably thirds of an acre, but man

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did it hold fish. I mean it held fish and

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they got big in there and it was just beauty.

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It was paradise to me. You got to remember that

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this whole place was paradise to me. So anyway, the

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first year didn't really have anything happen, but the second

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year here's where it goes. And now I'm gonna pre

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warn y'all to pre plug your ears a little bit

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because this is gonna get a little loud, and so

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jeremiy may want to turn your speaker down. I don't

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want to blow anything. But so I'm hunting. I set up.

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What I did was I cleared about, including those the

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stony area, I cleared about an acre and a half

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of land. I did not touch those stones, There's no

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way in the world I would. I didn't move any

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trees that were near them. But around that I cleared

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about an acre and a half of land. I had

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a tractor, and I sewed in a winter week spot

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every year for the deer. I promise you that critters

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down there eight better than I did. And by the way,

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I only took what I needed for me when I hunted.

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My granddaddy taught me. And I'm very serious about this.

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If you're not going to eat it, you leave it alone. Right.

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You don't hunt just for the sport of it. You

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don't kill unless you need to eat. And I fully

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believe that. By the way, I'm very much a Christian.

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Played music and did that for years, and I got

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to be an honest person. I played in the bars

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and all the wrong places for a long time and

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toured did all that. So I was very involved in

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our local church. And by the way, this is in

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roughly the McComb, Oklahoma area. So Jeremiah, if you want

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to map that out, if you head south out of Macomb,

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you're gonna hit Ashuer, Oklahoma. You're gonna hit Ada, Oklahoma.

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Then you're gonna hit Antler's Oklahoma. I've heard all these

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names on your ship. Okay. So, and by the way,

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just side note something for y'all. Look up later. Look

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up the Ashure Bigfoot fireman video. It's on YouTube. And

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this did happen. Okay. This guy was just doing a

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he was teaching people how to do a controlled burn

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because he was a fire chief. Dude had no intention

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of showing anything about Bigfoot. Was it even on his radar.

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He just said, this is how you properly do a

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controlled burn to keep your place from burning up. And

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in the background, someone put on YouTube, Hey, what's up

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with the bigfoot running through your video? And he's like,

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what are you talking about. He's like, there's nothing like that.

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I'm just doing control burn. And then he went back

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and looked at it and he's like, oh my god, dude,

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there's like that eight or nine foot tall. You can't

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make it out clearly because of smoke. But you can

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see something that big, and this one was slender. It

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was not a bodybuilder from what I could see on

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the video, but eight or nine foot tall running. And

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here's the other reason that I tend to think it's

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bigfoot when it's running, it's upper body. Does it jog

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up and down like hours? This upper body smooth as silk.

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Its legs are moving fast, right, and he's not tumping

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his arms hard, and so it's not us. It's not

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a human being whatever it was. So anyway, get back

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to the story. But I want y'all to go look

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it up. It's a neat video. I am setting up

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to do it archery hunt. Now I'm disabled. I can

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praise God, I can still walk, but I've had multiple

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back surgeries and i've had I've also broke my neck

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to prove I would do that. So I'm setting up

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to do a early October crossfow hunts. Okay, and I've

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got my And it's funny you change your places. I

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don't prefer to hunt in a elevated blind unless I

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have to, because my legs are still there. If I

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have to climb, I can, but I'm not real steady

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at it coo being back surgeries anyway, So I get

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in there. I'm so excited. This is my first or

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second time to ever hunt there. And I'm in my

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ground blind in my chair. Now you got to think

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this is old man hunting. This is It's not young

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strong man that's out busting brush and all that. This

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is when I'm older. So I'm in my ground blind,

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in my pulled up chair. I've got a little kind

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of a if you will, coffee table in table things

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sitting beside me, where my coffee sets or my soda

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whatever water, you know, my crackers. I mean, dude, you

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gotta do it right when you're old. So I'm setting

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up and it's getting to be the magic hour, and

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anybody that hunts knows what I'm talking about. The sun

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is starting to set. It's getting cooler. By the way,

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in Oklahoma, it's deg hot till like mid November, so

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it's getting cooler. The mosquitoes are kind of leaving me alone.

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And now brace yourself, folks. I'm just gonna do it

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the way I heard it. And I'm just so excited

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to see a deer. And I didn't even realize at

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that time. But the woods are really quiet that day,

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you know. And when I hunt, ninety nine percent of

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the time I'm using a crossbow. I'm not hunting with

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a rifle, shotgun, anything else. And so normally I'm hearing

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things in that ground line, especially after being in it

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for two hours, and all of a sudden, I hear

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this sound. Okay, I heard that, and I'm like, what, dude.

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My hair on my head stood up, I ain't got

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that bunch hair. My backstiff, and my I started tingling,

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and I'm you got to remember, I've hunted it hunted

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all over I've hunted it Colorado, I've hunted it in Mexico,

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all over Texas. I've never heard anything like that in

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my life.

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Big for Society will be right back after these messages.

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And so I won't do that again, because I know

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how much it hurts to get that loud on speakers

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and stuff. But I heard that sound, and it seemed

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like the sound was so loud that it hit me

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in the chips right and immediately I got fearful. And

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that doesn't make any sense. I don't get fearful. I

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just I'm not saying I'm big, bad and brave or

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nothing like that. But dude, I've been in the woods.

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I've been way too close to way too many bears

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weather fishing, hunting, or in my time of gold mining

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and stuff, and so I don't get scared that easy, right.

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And I heard it directly below me. You gotta remember,

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three tiers down, trail of tiers, and then the little

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river runs back through there. And by the way, there's

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no houses for probably three miles in that direction. Okay,

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it's only woods, it's only river, it's only cattle. There's

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one rancher that lives one valley away, kind of back

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to the south, and so get all that in your mind.

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I heard that sound and every hair on my body

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stood up. Then I heard it again, and it was

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a half a mile down the valley. And now here's

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the deal. Here's what I want you to understand. That

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half that time between the first and the second one

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was probably three minutes at the very most. Now, if

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that was a human being trying to make his way

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through the woods, he's not going to get a half

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a mile and three minutes being out there running, right.

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And then I heard it again a mile and a

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half down into the river. A minute after that, then

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I heard it again right back up by me. Okay,

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now here's the thing that it freaked me out really bad.

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I got out of my blind. I'm not gonna lie.

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I got out of my blind and I've got about

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two hundred yards to my back door, maybe three hundred.

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I go up and we had a back porch back

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there in Romance, pretty wood back porch, and I go

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in the house and I grabbed my wife by the hand.

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I said come out here. She's like, what do you want?

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Said no, seriously, I need you to come out here

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right now. The thing was still calling. She heard it too,

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and it was that loud and it was still calling.

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And I said, you're hearing what I'm hearing. I'm not

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going crazy, right And she said, yeah, I hear it.

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And I said okay. The next night, I go back

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to my blind with a lot of trepidation. I really

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kind of sort of it wasn't sure if I wanted

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to be in there or not. And sure enough I

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heard it again and I'm like, I'm out of here.

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So I go back. Here's the thing. I take more

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risks than most people's. Well, I've got so many back injuries.

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The way I broke my neck was I got bucked

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off a horse and then I rolled a tractor. Okay,

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so I do. I take more risks than many people.

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But at the same time, I ain't stupid. I'm not

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going to go see what I'm hearing with it moving

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that fast, and I'm never Okay, Bigfoot had never been

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on my radar. I'm a novice. I don't know anything

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about it. I'm from the Texas Panhandle. Okay, so that's

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the first experience. That's the first time I heard it. Well,

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then it moved away. Now I want to reset the stage.

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This was in October bed October, I hunt. I take

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a nice buck that year, and which is rare. I

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normally don't. Normally I just take a dough or whatever.

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But God bless me. What as a matter of fact,

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I get. I sent you a picture of me with

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that beer, and for the next about the next year,

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at the same time, here we go again. It's doing

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the you who. And it did it for two nights

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in a roup. Okay, and Amanda and I just started

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calling it to you who because that's what it was doing.

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But it, I mean, it was doing it exactly like

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I explained, and it moved way faster than a human

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being could through those woods and through that areas. There's

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really thick areas back there, and then there's areas where

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ranchers have cleared it out for cattle. And so a

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man could get out onto the plains of the area,

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if you will, And if he was sprinting as hard

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as he could sprint, he might be able to do that.

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But I want to ask you this, if he's a

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mile and a half away and I still hear it

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loud enough to not want to go near it, is

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that a man and a man make that much noise,

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Because what I did, what y'all heard, is still only

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if you look at it on a decimal scale, maybe

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a third of what it did. Maybe maybe maybe. And dude,

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I've played a lot of music over the years. I've

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got amplifiers that are as loud as a jet airplane.

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So I'm no volume, okay. And so that was the

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first two years. The third year it was an unseasonably

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dry year. Didn't hear nothing. Thank god, I didn't want

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to hear nothing, and so I was able to hunt.

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And by the way, once I'm kind of like anybody

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else once that thing goes away, and I've forgotten about

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it for two three months. I'm back to doing my

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normal thing. I'm tracing around in the woods. And if

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I shot a deer and I had to go into

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my neighbor's land to get the deer, I did it,

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never thought once about it. And his land is so thick,

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even though we're only in the foothills now. Inland is

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so thick. You can get in there and get lost.

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It's a thirty ac or parcel, but you can get

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lost in it. And you really got to remember your

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directions to be able to move in or you're going

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to go the wrong direction. So there are like that

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gentleman said the other day, whether mister Whitehead or Whitefield

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or Oklahoma is so much thicker than people give it

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credit for. And if you get much past Oklahoma City,

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which Macomb is about, oh, I don't know, sixty miles

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east of Oklahoma City, and then twenty miles south. You

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get much past there, you're getting into some pretty serious hills.

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And they are all the foothills of the Smokies. It's

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the way I say it. So anyway, it didn't bother

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me to be in it. Then this is what happened

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year number four. Okay, uh, I had just had a

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back surgery, one of many. Uh it was in the fall.

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I wasn't happy about it because I love the hunt,

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and but I'm sitting on the back porch, not doing

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anything but trying to recover. I don't hear the you

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who's Okay, my own theory on the you who's in

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the fall? I think. I don't think the things have

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to travel to live. I think they travel to make

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it if it now, now follow me on this. If

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it's a young one looking for a territory to be

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to grow up and be an old one in right,

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I don't personally I think there's a lot more of

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them than people say. But I also don't think there's

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that much interbreeding going on, if you will, because they're

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a very smart, smart creep. Sure. So I think it's

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kind of like us when we're young and we're uh

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virile so to speak, We're gonna go out and do

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whatever to look for a mate. Now sidebar, any ladies

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that are listening right now. I have a saying that

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always said to the church kids, and you've got to

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remember our country. So this is how I taught don't

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go looking for a thoroughbred and a pasture full of

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jackasses just sidebar there. Uh, so think about that. You

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want to say what I'm saying, Uh, don't go don't

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go to a bar and expect to find a good

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man or expect to find someone who's always going to

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be by your side. People only change in dire circumstances.

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That's my whole point. So anyway, get back on track here, Steve.

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Uh it's in the fall. I've had surgery. I'm not

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moving real well. That year became the year of COVID,

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which is a whole other story. But before all that happened,

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we start hearing. Now you got to remember where we lived.

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I used to travel for insurance right when I was

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working part time. I traveled the nation. We had conferences

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in Northern Carolina. Guys, if you ever get a chance

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to a drive trip out to Northern Carolina, some of

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the most beautiful country you will ever see in your life.

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But so, I traveled a lot, and I'm a farmer

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at heart, a lot more than a cowboy, even though

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I rode horses, race cows all that, And so I

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love planting trees, planning, gardens doing all that kind of stuff. Well,

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I'm out on the road and I called my wife

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and I said, honey, would you mind going out and

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watering my trees that I planted because it's brutal hot.

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This was before the surgery, brutal hot, and if you

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don't water them, they're not gonna make it. So she's

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out there water and talking to me on the phone.

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I'm in Tennessee or somewhere, and she went, oh, there's

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a bobcat. I went, really, Now, you got to remember, Jeremiah,

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my wife is from the city, city, through and through.

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She is not a country girl. So this whole way

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of life had to scare hurt of death. But h

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I said, is the Is it the squatty fat one

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or that tall slender one? And she said, well, he's

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pretty tall and he's got a long tail. And I

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went to do what She said, Yeah, he's pretty tall.

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He's not giant big, but he's got a long tail.

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I said, Honey, I want you to continue with water hose,

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and I want you to back yourself all the way

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up to the house, turn the water up and go in.

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Don't go back out there. She's like, what are you

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talking about it, I said, that is not a bobcat.

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It was a juvenile mountain lion. Oh wow, she's so sitty.

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She didn't know, and I said, And as we're talking,

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I said, what is he doing? She said, well, I

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don't know. He kind of walked up on a hill

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and now he's laying the side a tree and he's

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watching me intentley. I said, yeah, get out of there.

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And uh so we have mountain lines in the area, right,

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I know, and not a lot now there. And there

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is also black cougar's over there. There's if you go

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on Facebook and look up the area, there are pictures

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of a black cougar by a dude's trail camera. And

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I happen to know the guy and he touched me

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in the picture, so they're they. But we start hearing

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this evening, this winter fall evening, when I can't hunt

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I want to hunt. We start hearing a deep growl,

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a guttural deep growl, followed by a large cat. Now

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you've got to remember, I've got neighbors all around me

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with cattle. Okay, So you know what a baby sounds like,

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You know what a yearling sounds like. You know what

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a year and a half old calf turn into a

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cower or bull or whatever, you know what they sound like.

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This is a large calf. If I had to guess,

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and this is a pure guess, it was a year

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and a half old, just by his sound and Jeremiah,

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the fourth thing was being ripped in half. I'm not kidding,

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I'm not exaggerating. It was screaming as loud as it

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could scream being ripped up, and I wanted to go

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check it out. And my wife grabbed me by the

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neck said you ain't going nowhere, and she's right. I

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just had back surgery, couldn't walk well. Everything in me

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wanted to go and try to help that cat, because

448
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that's the kind of person I am. If I know

449
00:29:55.160 --> 00:29:59.279
something like that is being torn up, I want to

450
00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:04.920
go help. And she wouldn't let me. And hindsight twenty twenty,

451
00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:07.440
she was so smart. If she had tackled me, I'd

452
00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:11.400
just laid there because I had no business in those

453
00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:13.720
woods at that time with my surgery.

454
00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:17.119
Big for society, who would be right back after these messages?

455
00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:38.640
So this thing was being ripped up, and I knew

456
00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:43.000
it was being ripped up. You could hear it fall

457
00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:47.519
as it was being torn up. Okay, now I want

458
00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:50.720
you to think about this, a year and a half old.

459
00:30:50.960 --> 00:30:53.960
If I'm anywhere near close to right. Let's say it's

460
00:30:54.000 --> 00:31:00.799
a yearling, a yearling cow pepper chaff, whatever steer, you know,

461
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:05.200
if he's been cut to butcher, that thing, a yearling

462
00:31:05.359 --> 00:31:08.559
is going to be about twelve hundred pounds, anywhere from

463
00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:11.599
eight hundred on a small side. Which these were beef cattle.

464
00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:15.119
I don't think anybody in that area had dairy cattle.

465
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:18.440
These were beef cattle anywhere from eight hundred on a

466
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:23.319
small side to twelve hundred. That's about the size range.

467
00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:29.720
Now here's another thing to put in your head. A

468
00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:35.279
bull elf weighs eight hundred pounds. That's the muscle structure,

469
00:31:35.359 --> 00:31:39.039
the bigness of that path at that time. Okay, And

470
00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:42.680
I didn't go down there. I didn't find much that year.

471
00:31:43.640 --> 00:31:46.839
Neighbor actually brought me some dear meat, A very good

472
00:31:46.920 --> 00:31:51.200
neighbor ahead to the north of me. Is awesome human being.

473
00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:59.160
And so come about spring, I was really feeling good.

474
00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:03.160
I went down and checked the fields and did all

475
00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:06.240
of that. Well, here's the other thing. I'm dog rich

476
00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:09.440
with anybody that knows what that means. My wife and

477
00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:13.119
daughter that came over here are if they hear of

478
00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:17.240
a dog in trouble, it's now my dog. Actually, Darren

479
00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:19.319
called me one time, he said, hey, we got puppies,

480
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:21.880
and I tried to hang up before she could hear right,

481
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:23.599
but she heard it and we got a dog. We

482
00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:27.359
still have her of the stay. So I have two

483
00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:34.319
wine runners that are hunters, okay, and over there where

484
00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:38.359
we live, they roam the woods every day. That was

485
00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:41.799
their thing. Nobody cared. Everybody knew them. My dogs didn't

486
00:32:41.880 --> 00:32:47.759
mess with cows. They knew better. And that spring, Jeremiah,

487
00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:52.400
I'm not kidding. Those dogs started bringing up the bones

488
00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:58.279
of that cat. And I was right on the size

489
00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:01.839
that I thought it was, because they brought up basically,

490
00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:04.799
if you can ficture the handbone where it connects to

491
00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:09.480
the hip socket, if you took it and spread open

492
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:15.079
your hand to where you're catching a softball, that's the

493
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:18.640
size of that handbone knuckle that connected to the hip socket.

494
00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:23.119
That is not a small calf, that's right, that's that's

495
00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:27.720
a pretty big animal. And they started bringing up bones

496
00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:34.559
to it. Now, the man, the gentleman that ran those cows.

497
00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:39.160
I heard him and his family out running their horses

498
00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:44.039
and and their pour wheelers and looking for all their cows.

499
00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:48.319
I heard them out doing that, and and I was

500
00:33:48.440 --> 00:33:51.680
listening intently to their conversation to see if they found

501
00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:56.200
the kult side. They didn't find it. You got to remember,

502
00:33:56.240 --> 00:33:59.400
at that time, I was still not able to move

503
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:05.880
real good. So that was the last thing I heard

504
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:10.880
that really stands out in my mind. So I had

505
00:34:11.000 --> 00:34:15.639
basically three instances. Now I'm going to tell you this too.

506
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:22.000
In my mind. If you've ever watched shows like Oh Alaska,

507
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:25.440
the Last Frontier is a really good one to think about.

508
00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:29.679
When they have an eight hundred pound cat, sometimes that

509
00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:34.199
cat can survive a grizzly bear attack. Oh now I'm

510
00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:37.199
talking about real ballsy cabs. And forgive me, that's not

511
00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:40.079
a bad word. If you're a singer, ballsy means you

512
00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:44.280
sing really good in privloud. Right. If you've got a

513
00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:47.800
really a cat, that's going to be a good one.

514
00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:54.000
They can survive a bear attack. They actually filmed one

515
00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:57.079
of their cabs that had a bear had been up

516
00:34:57.119 --> 00:35:01.840
on his back and torn into his Oh, backstrap is

517
00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:05.119
what you call them. In the hunting world on both sides,

518
00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:07.480
and you could see four claw marks on both sides,

519
00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:11.320
and that animal should have died and he survived. Okay,

520
00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:14.760
So those calves are a lot stronger. Think about a

521
00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:17.119
young man at that point in life. They're strong at

522
00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:21.480
that point. They can survive. And I would doubt that

523
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:26.199
even a mountain lion would go after that dude, Right,

524
00:35:26.239 --> 00:35:28.159
a mountain lion will go after a small calf or

525
00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:30.320
a young cat. And as a matter of fact, when

526
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:34.199
the captain seasons gone, there's cowboys out there saddled up

527
00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:37.840
with thirty thirties waiting on the coyotes to come in

528
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:43.480
after the brand new babies. Part of cowboy and and

529
00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:46.039
not only the coyotes, but the mountain lions too. But

530
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:51.679
I don't think in my mind even a mature line

531
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:55.119
would go after a cat that beig. Now, I never

532
00:35:55.239 --> 00:35:59.320
saw the kill sight, Like I said, my dog's drunk

533
00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:03.280
drug the up. There was rib bone, there was that

534
00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:07.239
hip bone. My dogs are like, they hunt on their own,

535
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:11.880
even actually better than when I hunt with them. They'll

536
00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:15.280
bring up squirrels that they've hunted and that stack them

537
00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:17.159
like cordwood. Now, I know a lot of people are

538
00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:20.599
gonna have a problem with that. But it's the wild.

539
00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:24.280
It's it's what happens out in the country. I'm just

540
00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:29.840
being real with what happens. So now here's where it

541
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:33.039
gets interesting. This is another area that I want people

542
00:36:33.039 --> 00:36:35.800
to perch their ears up. We did a lot of

543
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:39.719
stuff my church and I for the community. Okay, we

544
00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:43.039
we u And I'm not trying to beat my own

545
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:46.960
horn here. There's a reason for this. We fed the

546
00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:51.920
kids at the school a lot, and I'm really happy

547
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:53.320
that I was able to be a part of that.

548
00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:57.159
So the school people knew our worship leader at our

549
00:36:57.239 --> 00:36:59.599
church really well. He was a school teacher at one time.

550
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:02.679
I was the assistant worship leader. Anytime he had to

551
00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:06.280
go somewhere, I stepped in and took over and loved

552
00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:13.199
my time there. Dude. We were a growing church after

553
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:20.480
some tumultuous stuff doesn't matter. But anyway, the schools invited

554
00:37:20.559 --> 00:37:25.800
us to a back to school barbecue small town, Oklahoma.

555
00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:29.440
I'm gonna tell y'all, if you're in the city and

556
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:32.599
you're thinking about moving to a small town and you're

557
00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:34.760
worried about, oh what about this, or what about just

558
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:39.320
do it? You're gonna you're gonna meet people that, for

559
00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:43.719
no other reason than just being good hearted people, they

560
00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:46.159
want to help. They want to do whatever it is

561
00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:49.559
to help you because when trouble comes, you will help them.

562
00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:54.679
That's how people look at life. Okay, and so I've

563
00:37:54.719 --> 00:38:00.400
never met a kinder area of people than I knew

564
00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:07.159
there ever up to this day. And so anyway, uh,

565
00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:10.239
the worship leader calls me and he says, hey, dude,

566
00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:12.239
the school wants us to do a back to school

567
00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:15.039
barbecue and sing along and all that said, great, let's

568
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:18.480
go do it. So we the group goes out and

569
00:38:18.559 --> 00:38:22.280
we're doing this sing along. Well, then it's they wanted

570
00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:26.159
it to be an authentic camp out experience for these kids,

571
00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:28.800
the kids in the area. There's a bunch of poor

572
00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:31.360
kids in the area. They just want them to have

573
00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:36.079
a good time as much as possible. Okay, So we

574
00:38:36.119 --> 00:38:38.159
set up to do that and we're doing it. The

575
00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:41.760
kids are singing along, We're doing country songs, gospel songs,

576
00:38:41.800 --> 00:38:45.039
you name it. And it was so fun because the

577
00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:49.400
kids were really enjoying it. And uh, well then came

578
00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:54.199
the camp fire time. Okay want now, Okay, you gotta

579
00:38:54.320 --> 00:38:59.400
you got to understand that I'm I'm what what is it.

580
00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:05.639
I take people at this value. I until you do

581
00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:08.519
something that tells me that you're not my friend, I'm

582
00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:10.360
going to consider you my friend. And I don't mean

583
00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:15.960
strangers if that describes me at all. So the guys

584
00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:22.079
start telling stories, ghost stories and such. Well, they asked

585
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:25.719
us do y'all know and and do I know? Tons

586
00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:27.239
of them. I don't even want to talk about all

587
00:39:27.239 --> 00:39:30.400
this stuff I know, and especially not to kids, and

588
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:32.599
so I'm like, yeah, I know a few, and then

589
00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:35.239
one of the guys yells out tell a bigfoot story,

590
00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:41.000
and okay, I want you to. At this time in

591
00:39:41.039 --> 00:39:45.320
my life, I knew because I had really dug into

592
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:50.000
those sounds that I heard. I started researching and I

593
00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:53.679
knew what made those sounds because I've watched enough video

594
00:39:54.880 --> 00:40:00.360
to know if you listen to the Ohio sounds, some

595
00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:06.199
of them are similar to that. And I actually called

596
00:40:06.199 --> 00:40:09.000
a guy on one of the podcasts years ago and

597
00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:11.400
I gave him that sound and he said, oh, yeah,

598
00:40:11.400 --> 00:40:16.719
I've heard that. And so, but I'm real trepidacious. I

599
00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:18.800
didn't want to just blur out, yeah, I know what

600
00:40:18.840 --> 00:40:21.199
that is. And so one of them was like, don't

601
00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:24.679
you know any Bigfoot stories, and I'm kind of still

602
00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:27.039
looking at him and another man that I don't know

603
00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:30.360
from Adam if one of his kids was there. He said, well,

604
00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:32.400
he just hadn't lived here long enough to know any

605
00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:35.719
he'll know him if he's lived here long enough. And

606
00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:39.639
so when he said that, I went ahead and told

607
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:43.519
the Hue story, and one of the guys in the

608
00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:47.679
in the audience was shaking his head, Yes, I've heard that. Okay.

609
00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:51.320
Then one of the guys came out in a big

610
00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:54.000
Foot costume and scared the kids around them around and

611
00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:56.679
all this stuff, and they just had a good time

612
00:40:56.719 --> 00:40:58.920
with it, and we went on. The whole evening wasn't

613
00:40:58.920 --> 00:41:03.360
about Bigfoot by any means. But one of the kids

614
00:41:03.360 --> 00:41:05.400
came up to me afterwards and he said, please do

615
00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:07.400
that sound again. I want to hear it. So I

616
00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:14.119
did it again that long. By the way, every time

617
00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:15.679
I do that, my dogs are looking at me like,

618
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:23.639
what's wrong with you? So anyway, then COVID happens, our

619
00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:30.920
house burns down. Oh well, it was a blessing in

620
00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:34.599
disguise and a long run. Because my wife and daughter

621
00:41:34.920 --> 00:41:41.719
didn't want to tell me that there were paranormal things

622
00:41:41.760 --> 00:41:45.760
happening to the point that we had a pastor friend

623
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:49.639
of ours go out and bless our home. Actually blessed

624
00:41:49.840 --> 00:41:54.440
we had homeowner's insurance. Right. I hated losing that house

625
00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:57.199
because I loved it man with a passion. But it

626
00:41:57.280 --> 00:42:02.320
was there was something there. And by the way, I

627
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:04.480
don't want to get it too much into paranormal unless

628
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:10.480
you just want me to. But a person lived there

629
00:42:10.519 --> 00:42:18.159
before us that invited that stuff. Oh okay, well, and

630
00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:21.880
here's the deal. I am very much a Christian to

631
00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:25.159
talk about that now. I believe in all the fruits

632
00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:27.440
of the spirit. The church we were going through at

633
00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:29.519
the time didn't practice all that didn't matter. They were

634
00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:31.880
good people. They were our friends, so none of that matter.

635
00:42:33.280 --> 00:42:37.199
But I was raised by a my mom had trouble,

636
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:41.440
so my granddad, my dad, my aunt and uncles. That's

637
00:42:41.440 --> 00:42:44.239
the only reason I love music in the outdoors. All

638
00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:49.360
of those people raised me. My granddady is a Pentecostal

639
00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:55.280
pastor that went to the reservations and preached out New Mexico,

640
00:42:55.440 --> 00:42:57.280
and one of my uncles actually lived out there for

641
00:42:57.320 --> 00:43:00.320
a long time. As a matter of fact, I'm way

642
00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:06.400
a silver and turquoise ring that my granddad gave me

643
00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:13.960
that was made for him by a native medicine man

644
00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:17.920
out there as a thank you for coming out here

645
00:43:18.159 --> 00:43:22.679
and teaching us the gospel. So I was raised full

646
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:27.159
Pentecost all of that, you know, So I fully believe

647
00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:34.280
in spiritual things. Here's the deal, guys. If you believe

648
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:35.760
in the good, you got to believe in the bad,

649
00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:39.880
because it's all real. Yep. If you believe in God,

650
00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:43.360
you got to believe in the devil. Right, there's good

651
00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:48.480
and there's evil. Vote you invite what you want in

652
00:43:48.519 --> 00:43:53.719
your life. Now, I don't know why, but I'm kind

653
00:43:53.719 --> 00:44:00.199
of led to say this. When I was fourteen was

654
00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:04.000
the first time that I no, I'm sorry, fifteen, first

655
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:10.400
time that I ever experienced paranormal and em roll, Texas.

656
00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:13.360
Living in the house we were living in east side

657
00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:21.239
of town. Lightning storm came and knocked out power. Right.

658
00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:23.800
My dad's in the shower. Now, my dad did not

659
00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:27.679
believe in anything like this. Dad's in the shower. I'm

660
00:44:27.679 --> 00:44:30.880
in the living room. I'd already I've been a hard

661
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:33.440
worker all my life. I'd already earned enough cash to

662
00:44:33.440 --> 00:44:36.000
buy my first pickup. So my pickup sitting out there

663
00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:43.760
beside dads and powers out. However, it was a full moon.

664
00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:48.519
Once the storm passed, Okay, a black mass starts coming

665
00:44:48.559 --> 00:44:52.079
down the hallway and I see it clear as day. Dude.

666
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:58.000
It's like, just imagine someone. It's not then as a cloud.

667
00:44:58.159 --> 00:45:01.880
It's not thick as styrofoam. It's thicker than a cloud.

668
00:45:02.360 --> 00:45:06.280
I know that's weird, but that's what it was. But

669
00:45:06.360 --> 00:45:08.440
it was black, and it was coming down the hallway

670
00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:11.159
and I could see it clear as day, and it

671
00:45:11.239 --> 00:45:14.920
was coming into the living room. I ran through. It

672
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:17.360
was just stupid, but I ran through it and I

673
00:45:17.440 --> 00:45:19.679
hit the bathroom door and I said, Dad, there's something

674
00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:20.840
out here. You got to get out of here. And

675
00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:23.519
he said, you're just seeing things. He didn't believe any

676
00:45:23.519 --> 00:45:24.880
of that. I didn't want to hear it. That's just

677
00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:30.039
how my dad was. And so I'm trying to look

678
00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:33.280
because I'm in the bathroom in that area, not the bathroom,

679
00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:36.679
but near it, and it turns around and it starts

680
00:45:36.679 --> 00:45:40.079
coming back at me. I ran out of the house

681
00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:40.880
and I spent.

682
00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:43.840
The night my pickup Big for Society will be right back.

683
00:45:43.880 --> 00:46:02.159
After these messages, they could not get me out of

684
00:46:02.199 --> 00:46:02.679
my pickup.

685
00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:06.920
I went over and talked to my Papa Turner about it,

686
00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:10.840
and he said, you just saw your first glimpse of

687
00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:15.960
something evil trying to mess with you, and you've got

688
00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:18.519
to pray in the name of Jesus and cover yourself

689
00:46:18.519 --> 00:46:20.679
with the blood of Jesus to keep that stuff away.

690
00:46:21.320 --> 00:46:23.239
You're right. If it wouldn't have been for that, I'd

691
00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:27.519
have never known what to do when things like that happened.

692
00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:33.880
But now, remember I'm part Cherokee, Okay. I've always had

693
00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:39.760
a giant high respect for the Native people. I don't know,

694
00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:42.159
there are ways enough I wish I knew them more,

695
00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:46.920
but I've been blessed to know some in my life,

696
00:46:47.159 --> 00:46:54.760
and so now pass forward out to this land. I've

697
00:46:54.760 --> 00:46:58.519
got pictures that I can send you of things that

698
00:46:58.639 --> 00:47:01.880
happened on that land because it's so weird. I had

699
00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:05.960
the deer camera set up around my hunting field, right, I would.

700
00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:08.960
On one particular picture, you see my hand going to

701
00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:13.559
release the camera hard and it takes a picture, and

702
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:17.719
ninety percent of that picture is my hand. Well, one

703
00:47:17.719 --> 00:47:19.159
of my neighbors was over and now I was showing

704
00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:24.000
him the different fear, and that picture of my hand

705
00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:26.159
came up and we had it on my computer. So

706
00:47:26.159 --> 00:47:29.159
it was a decent screen and I just went past

707
00:47:29.239 --> 00:47:31.360
us as just a weird picture, and he sa, no, no, no,

708
00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:34.719
go back, and I go back. And if you blow

709
00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:37.440
up to ten percent of that screen, that's not my hand.

710
00:47:38.320 --> 00:47:42.480
There's streaks of light. And when I say it was

711
00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:47.360
it was a sunny day, okay, bluebird sky. But there's

712
00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:53.280
streaks of light between the strength of a naked light

713
00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:56.519
in your house, you know, with a lamp shape and

714
00:47:57.000 --> 00:48:00.800
stronger than that. That were just kind of kind of

715
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:04.159
weird oddball coming down, almost kind of like lightning. And

716
00:48:04.199 --> 00:48:08.440
in those streaks of light, there are faces and you

717
00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:12.360
can make the faces out and they are native faces.

718
00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:17.039
Now I don't know why they're there, but they're there. Well,

719
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:20.880
actually I do know why. Trail of tears. Okay. My

720
00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:23.000
wife would go down there in the evening. She loved

721
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:26.519
to take pictures. She loved her and my daughter love

722
00:48:26.760 --> 00:48:30.400
sunset pictures. She didn't take sunset pictures, she said, I

723
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:33.199
but there's another dreen thing in the picture and his orbs.

724
00:48:35.559 --> 00:48:39.639
The land was highly charged. Now, my son came to

725
00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:41.719
hunt with us one time and I said, c J,

726
00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:47.199
when you're in those woods, what do you feel, like,

727
00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:51.159
how do you feel? And he's like, Dad, I can't

728
00:48:51.159 --> 00:48:53.239
explain it, but I'm at more peace there than I

729
00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:57.599
am anywhere. Now, he did eight years maybe, and saw

730
00:48:57.639 --> 00:49:00.239
some things that were horrible, had to do something, things

731
00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:04.960
that were work. And he said, but when I'm in

732
00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:09.519
those woods, and I don't want to bypass that. That's

733
00:49:08.840 --> 00:49:12.840
the PTSD thing is so real in those guys lives.

734
00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:15.719
I have so much respect for them. It's something they

735
00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:20.360
battle that we as. I'm a non military member. My

736
00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:25.280
dad and my son, my youngest son's fixing to go military,

737
00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:29.840
working at it. And I don't know that. I don't

738
00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:33.719
know the hurt that they've seen, but I know the

739
00:49:33.760 --> 00:49:37.760
pain of that kind of thing. I don't know the

740
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:40.800
pain of seeing a friend die right before me, right

741
00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:42.360
in front of me. I don't know that I'll never

742
00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:46.000
be able to understand that. But anyway, with all that

743
00:49:46.079 --> 00:49:48.960
in his in his heart, when he's hunting in those

744
00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:51.599
woods with his bow up in a tree, he said,

745
00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:54.800
I'm at more peace there than I am anywhere, And

746
00:49:54.880 --> 00:49:59.559
I can't explain it. And I have the exact same feeling,

747
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:05.519
more peace in those woods than I am anywhere. So

748
00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:07.480
I told you our house burned down. This was right

749
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:10.960
at COVID. I went to the hospital with COVID. They

750
00:50:11.039 --> 00:50:13.599
tried to innovate me. I told them, there's no way

751
00:50:13.599 --> 00:50:16.800
I'm gonna let you innovate me. And every time the nurse.

752
00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:19.480
I was in there for fourteen days, very close to

753
00:50:19.519 --> 00:50:22.920
death at one point, and every time the nurse would

754
00:50:23.000 --> 00:50:24.880
leave the room, I'd get up and I'd walk around

755
00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:28.639
the room. I just wanted out of there. But I

756
00:50:29.239 --> 00:50:33.119
had some underlying things going on, pneumonia, other things, and

757
00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:36.639
it was it was a bad struggle. Well, our house

758
00:50:36.639 --> 00:50:39.280
had already burnt down at that point. We're living in

759
00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:45.480
a one of my good good friends, well the music leader,

760
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:48.079
he had brought his RV out there for us to

761
00:50:48.079 --> 00:50:52.199
live in. We're living in that and uh, it's a

762
00:50:52.280 --> 00:50:57.599
very cold winter, did very hard winter. I'm weak from

763
00:50:57.679 --> 00:51:01.159
the COVID thing. So I'm still in the hostpelddle. My

764
00:51:01.480 --> 00:51:04.239
poor wife is out there trying to handle member of

765
00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:08.119
city girl, trying to handle putting pro paine tanks on

766
00:51:08.239 --> 00:51:11.079
in fifteen degree weather. She ain't built for that. She

767
00:51:11.119 --> 00:51:16.159
don't know what that's like. But you got to remember,

768
00:51:16.199 --> 00:51:18.639
this is paradise to me. This place is paradise to me,

769
00:51:18.719 --> 00:51:21.760
even though I know there's paranormal things. And by that

770
00:51:21.960 --> 00:51:26.960
point at time in time, she and my little girl

771
00:51:27.239 --> 00:51:29.760
had already complained to me that they had seen things

772
00:51:29.760 --> 00:51:33.599
that they didn't like. I'll give you one example of that,

773
00:51:33.639 --> 00:51:37.119
and i'll move on. One time, when I was out

774
00:51:37.119 --> 00:51:43.159
of town, my wife called me frantic, and she said,

775
00:51:43.320 --> 00:51:48.199
I think there's somebody either in our house or because

776
00:51:48.239 --> 00:51:55.920
we had started rebuilding, or just outside the house. And

777
00:51:55.960 --> 00:51:58.360
I said, well, tell me what's going on. She said,

778
00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:01.039
I was sound asleep in some thing. Ran up to

779
00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:04.480
the foot of my bed and ran around it two

780
00:52:04.599 --> 00:52:07.559
or three times, and then ran off and ran into

781
00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:13.719
our little girl's room. And I jumped up and I

782
00:52:13.840 --> 00:52:17.159
went and there's nothing here. And she was frantic, dude,

783
00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:22.360
she was almost to tears. She was her voice was shaky.

784
00:52:23.800 --> 00:52:26.039
I really I felt horrible because I was out on

785
00:52:26.079 --> 00:52:32.239
the road traveling, and we continue to build a house

786
00:52:34.280 --> 00:52:36.639
and those things won't go away. Remember we'd had the

787
00:52:36.679 --> 00:52:45.480
house blessed. Whatever's there's not leaving. We have an air

788
00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:48.199
conditioning man come over and it's his uncle that owns

789
00:52:48.239 --> 00:52:51.079
the land back behind us, and so I asked him,

790
00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:54.679
I said, dude, I heard your uncle and some dudes

791
00:52:54.679 --> 00:52:58.960
out there on horseback and boilers looking for cattle. Do

792
00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:00.400
you know if they found them all or not? And

793
00:53:00.400 --> 00:53:03.400
he said no, what And I said one of them

794
00:53:03.440 --> 00:53:06.400
got torn apart one night after I'd had surgery. I

795
00:53:06.559 --> 00:53:08.519
really wanted to go and try to help it, but

796
00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:13.079
I couldn't. And I just want to know if they

797
00:53:13.119 --> 00:53:17.119
ever found remains or anything like that out there. And

798
00:53:17.159 --> 00:53:19.440
he's like, no, but I'll find out, you know, just

799
00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:21.599
that I don't know the answer to that question. I

800
00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:24.159
don't know if they ever found any remains or anything.

801
00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:26.559
I told him what I heard, and he said, yeah,

802
00:53:26.559 --> 00:53:28.199
I would have had to gone and looked at what

803
00:53:28.440 --> 00:53:31.480
was going on, and he's a young cowboy. I did it.

804
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:37.599
But so anyway, we're trying to build, We're trying to

805
00:53:37.639 --> 00:53:41.239
make things work. The paranormal stuff will not leave my

806
00:53:41.360 --> 00:53:45.599
girls alone. And I bought a saw mill because I

807
00:53:45.639 --> 00:53:48.280
was tired of traveling, so I bought a saw mill.

808
00:53:48.360 --> 00:53:54.880
And now, dude, I've had over twenty back surgeries, not

809
00:53:54.920 --> 00:53:57.920
including my next surgeries. I'm a moron. I don't have

810
00:53:58.119 --> 00:54:02.960
any business dealing with the sawmill, but I had tractors.

811
00:54:03.039 --> 00:54:06.800
I had equipment to lift the logs. You know, it

812
00:54:06.920 --> 00:54:09.880
was still very much hard work, but I loved it.

813
00:54:09.960 --> 00:54:15.760
I absolutely love milling trees. There's that part of the state.

814
00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:17.960
I've always been a woodworker, and that part of the

815
00:54:18.039 --> 00:54:26.559
state is so loaded with giant oaks and white oaks,

816
00:54:26.800 --> 00:54:31.039
and oh my gosh, dude, there's so many trees that

817
00:54:31.039 --> 00:54:37.440
it's just such a fantastic singing nature that they had there.

818
00:54:38.039 --> 00:54:40.880
And there's you could cut all the trees off of

819
00:54:41.000 --> 00:54:44.880
my land and they'd be back in ten years, but

820
00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:47.400
it would take you twenty five years to cut them

821
00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:49.880
all down. There's that many trees out there. And I

822
00:54:50.159 --> 00:54:52.880
never do that anyway. I only took out trees that

823
00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:56.280
were dying or you know whatever. And I've got to

824
00:54:56.360 --> 00:54:59.920
the steps. Still got black walnut, I've got white oak,

825
00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:03.719
black oak, cedar, you name it. That I brought with me,

826
00:55:05.239 --> 00:55:09.400
So anyway, I would not. I didn't want to hear

827
00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:12.800
that there was something in that house that wanted to

828
00:55:12.840 --> 00:55:15.000
hurt me. Didn't want to hear that because it was

829
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:17.480
my paradise, right, didn't want to hear it. Didn't want

830
00:55:17.519 --> 00:55:20.639
my wife to say it or anything else. I saw milling.

831
00:55:21.559 --> 00:55:23.719
We're going to church. We're doing all the things that

832
00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:27.400
we do, and I'm out in the middle of the

833
00:55:27.440 --> 00:55:29.320
field that and this is something I want you to

834
00:55:29.360 --> 00:55:33.079
think about. This field had just been rained on the

835
00:55:33.119 --> 00:55:38.639
weekend before, and I'm milling trees around this corner. I

836
00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:43.079
have my Dodge Foil drive out there. Still breaks my

837
00:55:43.079 --> 00:55:48.159
heart to this day. My dad had bought that truck

838
00:55:48.199 --> 00:55:49.800
for me, his last thing he did before he died.

839
00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:56.920
He was just a giving good man. And that truck,

840
00:55:57.000 --> 00:55:58.840
for no reason, in the middle of that field caught

841
00:55:58.880 --> 00:56:04.440
fire and burned the ground. And uh, there's nothing I

842
00:56:04.480 --> 00:56:10.280
could do about it. So true the grace of God

843
00:56:10.360 --> 00:56:12.320
and the grace of really good family. I was able

844
00:56:12.360 --> 00:56:15.480
to get another truck, and I tried to just get

845
00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:18.360
past it. Right. Just go back to work. That's always

846
00:56:18.360 --> 00:56:20.639
been my deal, is just go back to work. You'll

847
00:56:20.639 --> 00:56:24.480
be fine, Just work through. It's all good. The girls

848
00:56:26.199 --> 00:56:30.440
we're still saying, you know, these things are happening, and

849
00:56:30.480 --> 00:56:32.719
we prayed over it, and we've asked that the house

850
00:56:32.800 --> 00:56:39.920
be blessed. When I told you, someone invited. I don't

851
00:56:39.920 --> 00:56:42.760
want to go too far into this, but I have

852
00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:44.280
a feeling there was sorry.

853
00:56:44.320 --> 00:56:49.280
You just actually your audio just totally went out in

854
00:56:49.400 --> 00:56:50.280
the last sentence.

855
00:56:50.320 --> 00:56:54.840
If you agree with that, you're good. You're good. Okay,

856
00:56:54.920 --> 00:56:56.639
where did it go out? Let me ask you that

857
00:56:56.840 --> 00:56:59.840
you said when the truck burned out there, it.

858
00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:02.719
Was when you were about to talk about the history

859
00:57:03.199 --> 00:57:04.000
of the house.

860
00:57:04.039 --> 00:57:11.960
I think, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, So I apologize. I'm

861
00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:17.199
fairly certain even though the lady that had the place,

862
00:57:17.400 --> 00:57:24.719
I'm fairly certain she had invited evil in. Maybe not

863
00:57:24.840 --> 00:57:33.559
on purpose, but it was there, Okay. They used to

864
00:57:33.559 --> 00:57:36.079
have haunted trails out there before we moved, and it

865
00:57:36.159 --> 00:57:38.239
was all in good fun. Although a man died of

866
00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:40.480
a heart attack on one of their haunted trails. Well,

867
00:57:44.719 --> 00:57:48.239
and I'm and so they when that happened, they shut

868
00:57:48.280 --> 00:57:53.320
it down. So okay. I don't want to go into

869
00:57:53.679 --> 00:57:56.239
much more detail on recording about that because she's a

870
00:57:56.239 --> 00:57:58.480
sweet lady and I don't want to go in any

871
00:57:58.519 --> 00:58:02.000
further than that. But but there was things invited in

872
00:58:02.079 --> 00:58:06.719
that shouldn't have been okay. And another little side note,

873
00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:09.599
she told me that she never went out after dark

874
00:58:09.679 --> 00:58:13.440
because she was afraid she would see a big foot.

875
00:58:14.199 --> 00:58:16.559
There's a little side note there. Oh wow, And she'd

876
00:58:16.599 --> 00:58:19.679
lived in the hep she lived in that house for

877
00:58:19.719 --> 00:58:20.320
thirty years.

878
00:58:20.639 --> 00:58:22.719
Man, So she had stuff going on.

879
00:58:24.000 --> 00:58:29.360
Oh dude, absolutely had stuff going on. Absolutely. It was

880
00:58:29.440 --> 00:58:32.360
weird the way that area is set up. Tornadoes, you know,

881
00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:37.840
this is tornado alley. Tornadoes would form above that area

882
00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:41.559
and then go in to Shawnee and destroy Shawnee. I

883
00:58:41.639 --> 00:58:46.559
watched it happen three times, and I always told my wife, well,

884
00:58:46.599 --> 00:58:48.719
she told us, Sonny, that they form above here, but

885
00:58:48.760 --> 00:58:52.559
they never actually hit here. Well. And then about a

886
00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:54.880
week later one went right out our front road and

887
00:58:55.400 --> 00:58:57.719
tore up the road pretty good. Luckily no one was

888
00:58:57.800 --> 00:59:02.679
hurt in that one, praise God. But anyway, there was

889
00:59:02.719 --> 00:59:05.000
evil there. The only way I know to describe it,

890
00:59:06.400 --> 00:59:10.719
my daughter saw black masses that would stand over the

891
00:59:10.719 --> 00:59:15.400
foot of her bed and lean over her. And so

892
00:59:15.679 --> 00:59:17.920
but remember this is my paradise. I didn't want to

893
00:59:17.920 --> 00:59:22.480
hear nothing about leaving it. Right then, I'm doing the

894
00:59:22.599 --> 00:59:28.079
chainsaw thing and cutting a tree. And quite frankly, there's

895
00:59:28.119 --> 00:59:31.480
another lady that's just spectacular to us all the time

896
00:59:31.559 --> 00:59:36.559
we were there. Her name was Karen. Just spectacular people.

897
00:59:36.639 --> 00:59:39.280
Her and her family, her daughter, son in law, all

898
00:59:39.320 --> 00:59:43.880
of them just fantastic people. And when we first moved there.

899
00:59:43.960 --> 00:59:49.599
She gave me a gil chainsaw because she knew that

900
00:59:49.679 --> 00:59:51.480
I needed it out there, and I did. She said,

901
00:59:51.519 --> 00:59:53.559
you don't have I told her. She asked me when

902
00:59:53.599 --> 00:59:55.519
we first moved it, you got a chainsaw. So I

903
00:59:55.559 --> 00:59:57.760
got a crafts use it for years. She said no, no, no,

904
00:59:57.920 --> 01:00:00.000
that ain't good enough. And she was right. It wasn't.

905
01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:03.320
It was strong enough for that area. And she gave

906
01:00:03.440 --> 01:00:05.599
me once. She wouldn't hear of me paying for it.

907
01:00:05.679 --> 01:00:09.559
She's gave it to me. So I was carving her

908
01:00:09.880 --> 01:00:18.639
a bobcat and with a very good I'm not sure

909
01:00:18.679 --> 01:00:20.760
if it was the same saw, but a very good

910
01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:25.840
skill chainsaw. And so I don't know if you've ever

911
01:00:25.880 --> 01:00:27.880
worked with them or not, but you know chainsaws have

912
01:00:27.920 --> 01:00:32.119
an emergency break on them right. What it's designed for

913
01:00:33.480 --> 01:00:37.039
is if the saw kicks back right, it applies the

914
01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:40.679
brake and shuts the blade off. Now, if it would

915
01:00:40.679 --> 01:00:44.039
have been a lesser saw, I would say, okay, it

916
01:00:44.159 --> 01:00:47.280
was just a free thing. But this saw, I want

917
01:00:47.320 --> 01:00:49.320
you to think about this. This saw had just been

918
01:00:49.400 --> 01:00:54.480
repaired back to its original because I believe in maintaining

919
01:00:54.480 --> 01:00:55.559
your equipment.

920
01:00:55.599 --> 01:00:58.360
Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages.

921
01:01:14.360 --> 01:01:17.360
If you don't, you're stupid. You trust, you got to

922
01:01:17.360 --> 01:01:19.400
rely on it, So it needs to rely on you

923
01:01:19.480 --> 01:01:23.400
to maintain. I had just had the shop, the saw

924
01:01:23.440 --> 01:01:26.440
in the shop. Everything was working perfectly on the saw.

925
01:01:27.199 --> 01:01:32.199
I started doing that work for her, carving that out.

926
01:01:32.199 --> 01:01:36.440
I used to man, I've got if you look at

927
01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:40.599
my personality, I'm an artist, done artwork for years. I've

928
01:01:40.639 --> 01:01:44.119
got saw carvings all over. It was blessed, very blessed,

929
01:01:44.159 --> 01:01:47.559
and Amarilla to have a lady do a news article

930
01:01:47.599 --> 01:01:51.000
on some stuff that I had done, and the Associated

931
01:01:51.079 --> 01:01:53.880
Press picked up that article. So I've got chainsaw carvings

932
01:01:53.920 --> 01:01:58.440
in like thirty states, and it's just it's the way

933
01:01:58.480 --> 01:02:00.280
I look at it, it's a gift from God. Like

934
01:02:00.400 --> 01:02:04.039
other people are teachers. Art is a gift from God.

935
01:02:04.079 --> 01:02:06.880
Everything is a gift from God. So anyway I'm carving

936
01:02:06.960 --> 01:02:11.760
that for her. The saw kicks back and instead of

937
01:02:11.800 --> 01:02:14.880
the break being applied, it speeds up and it's coming

938
01:02:14.920 --> 01:02:19.079
right at my face. So what do you do when

939
01:02:19.119 --> 01:02:21.960
you see something anything coming at your face. You put

940
01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:25.079
your arm up to block it. Right. I put my

941
01:02:25.199 --> 01:02:27.079
arm up to block it, and it almost cut my

942
01:02:27.199 --> 01:02:33.760
right hand off, and I've got pictures of all that's

943
01:02:33.880 --> 01:02:38.760
really fasty, but it it cut through all of my

944
01:02:38.960 --> 01:02:43.320
kendons on my right hand. And if it weren't for

945
01:02:43.880 --> 01:02:48.400
our youngest son at the house, Luckily, my oldest son

946
01:02:48.400 --> 01:02:51.280
and I've been on an ail hunt and this is all.

947
01:02:51.360 --> 01:02:53.639
You know. People say it's such a coincidence that this

948
01:02:53.719 --> 01:02:57.679
that night ain't a coincidence. It's what God has laid

949
01:02:57.679 --> 01:03:01.280
out for you in your life. It bad be it indifferent.

950
01:03:01.719 --> 01:03:07.119
There's no coincidences. He had taught me three months earlier

951
01:03:07.159 --> 01:03:10.280
how to apply a tourniquet. If he hadn't done that, Jeremia,

952
01:03:10.280 --> 01:03:16.719
I'd be dead. Okay, I was bleeding out fast. My

953
01:03:16.840 --> 01:03:20.400
wife wasn't there. It was just my youngest son and I.

954
01:03:21.039 --> 01:03:23.320
The whole time. We're rebuilding this house and I'm trying

955
01:03:23.360 --> 01:03:28.280
to keep things going. I'm bleeding out. So I wrapped

956
01:03:28.559 --> 01:03:31.480
my hand around my wrist as best I could to

957
01:03:31.519 --> 01:03:35.760
set the blood off. He applies a tourniquet. I had

958
01:03:35.760 --> 01:03:38.960
to teach him how, and we got the blood to stop.

959
01:03:39.239 --> 01:03:41.920
Was able to call ambulance. Ambulance came and picked me up.

960
01:03:41.920 --> 01:03:44.360
It's a funny story, but I don't want to take

961
01:03:44.360 --> 01:03:47.880
that too much. Ill's time. So anyway, every time I

962
01:03:47.880 --> 01:03:49.840
would think it was fixing to it better, it got

963
01:03:49.880 --> 01:03:54.519
worse until I woke up from surgery. And that's when

964
01:03:54.519 --> 01:03:56.039
I knew I was going to live. I didn't know

965
01:03:56.079 --> 01:03:58.119
I was going to live in a r I didn't

966
01:03:58.159 --> 01:03:59.840
know I was going to live when the ambulance got there.

967
01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:02.000
Is quite frankly, all they did was make it worse.

968
01:04:02.039 --> 01:04:04.400
Each each place I went to, they'd made it worse.

969
01:04:04.920 --> 01:04:07.800
And until the doctor stepped in and did surgery, I

970
01:04:07.800 --> 01:04:09.119
didn't know if I was going to live or not.

971
01:04:10.880 --> 01:04:18.079
And so anyway, after that, I'm trying to recuperate my hand.

972
01:04:19.199 --> 01:04:22.320
Now I played guitar on my life. I play five

973
01:04:22.440 --> 01:04:25.400
six instruments, and that, once again is the art thing.

974
01:04:26.880 --> 01:04:29.519
I've got to relearn how to use my right hand.

975
01:04:29.559 --> 01:04:32.599
Thank god I'm left handed, but I've got to reuse

976
01:04:33.199 --> 01:04:35.760
my right hand. I don't trust it. I can't pick

977
01:04:35.840 --> 01:04:39.119
up a glass of key with it. So my wife

978
01:04:39.159 --> 01:04:41.119
looks at me and says, look, I know how much

979
01:04:41.119 --> 01:04:45.719
you love this place. We're done, we were you are

980
01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:48.480
now retired, whether you like it or not. And at

981
01:04:48.480 --> 01:04:51.400
first I'm dude, I'm a red knak Uh, there's no

982
01:04:51.440 --> 01:04:54.519
other way to say it. I'm stubborn as all get out.

983
01:04:55.039 --> 01:05:00.079
At first, I was mad when she said that, but

984
01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:02.400
it took about two weeks for me to realize she's

985
01:05:02.599 --> 01:05:08.800
absolutely right. We're done. So we we put it on

986
01:05:08.840 --> 01:05:11.000
the market, put the place on the market. The house

987
01:05:11.039 --> 01:05:16.400
that we're trying to rebuild is not finished, but it's

988
01:05:16.519 --> 01:05:23.440
beautiful and it's in a picturesque location, and so we

989
01:05:23.519 --> 01:05:25.800
finally we get a buyer on it. We agree to

990
01:05:25.840 --> 01:05:30.159
a price, and we told our friends goodbye, which was

991
01:05:30.280 --> 01:05:32.519
very hard to do. You know, I've known these people

992
01:05:32.559 --> 01:05:35.440
for seven years at this point. Eight no, I'm sorry,

993
01:05:36.079 --> 01:05:42.159
nine years at this point, and we sold out. We

994
01:05:42.440 --> 01:05:49.679
moved to Fort pab Oklahoma. Right. I love hunting and fishing,

995
01:05:49.960 --> 01:05:51.960
and by the grace of God, now I don't have

996
01:05:52.039 --> 01:05:53.960
to maintain the lake. I don't have to cut the

997
01:05:54.000 --> 01:05:55.960
grass in the fields. I'll have to do nothing. I

998
01:05:56.000 --> 01:05:58.320
just go out of my front door, drive a half

999
01:05:58.320 --> 01:06:01.400
a mile to the lake, and I'm fishing. And I've

1000
01:06:01.400 --> 01:06:05.000
got good neighbors around me. Love this place. So, you know,

1001
01:06:06.159 --> 01:06:09.760
the big Foot thing, I know, it's real. Like I said,

1002
01:06:09.800 --> 01:06:11.920
I'm very much a novice. I'm not the guy that's

1003
01:06:11.920 --> 01:06:13.920
going to tell you I'm a researcher, because I'm not.

1004
01:06:17.360 --> 01:06:19.199
But it goes to the back of my mind again,

1005
01:06:19.239 --> 01:06:22.280
I completely forget about it. Basically, I'm out here hunting

1006
01:06:22.320 --> 01:06:26.239
for the first year and fishing, and now that summer's here, dude,

1007
01:06:26.280 --> 01:06:28.480
I'm ready to fish spurring. I catch a lot of

1008
01:06:28.519 --> 01:06:32.079
big striper and just blessed with a lot of fish.

1009
01:06:35.559 --> 01:06:38.679
But there's this one area that everybody talks about. It's

1010
01:06:38.679 --> 01:06:42.599
called Party Co right, anybody that lives around here knows

1011
01:06:42.679 --> 01:06:46.559
Party Coat. Well, like I've told you before, I don't

1012
01:06:46.559 --> 01:06:48.719
really like being around a whole bunch of people that

1013
01:06:48.800 --> 01:06:53.320
I don't know. So I fish at night, especially the

1014
01:06:53.360 --> 01:06:56.199
further you go into the summer. If you don't fish

1015
01:06:56.199 --> 01:06:58.000
at night, you ain't gonna catch nothing because it's just

1016
01:06:58.079 --> 01:07:02.039
brutal hot. Man. It's a hundred yesterday, our temperature was

1017
01:07:02.440 --> 01:07:04.960
said you told me earlier you were up there and

1018
01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:06.880
temperature was nice. It was all good, and I was

1019
01:07:06.920 --> 01:07:10.199
just thinking, I'm laughing in my head. Our temperature was

1020
01:07:10.480 --> 01:07:14.760
one hundred and six. With the heat index it was

1021
01:07:14.760 --> 01:07:15.679
one hundred and twelve.

1022
01:07:16.079 --> 01:07:17.000
Oh my wow.

1023
01:07:17.119 --> 01:07:20.480
You walk out, dude, you walk outside, you need another shower.

1024
01:07:20.920 --> 01:07:24.840
It's that bad that you just sweat profusely. So anyway,

1025
01:07:24.880 --> 01:07:28.800
if you're not fishing at night, you're not gonna catch anything,

1026
01:07:28.880 --> 01:07:31.519
and it's pretty miserable unless you're out there skiing and playing,

1027
01:07:31.599 --> 01:07:34.840
you know, on an inner taber or whatever. So I'm

1028
01:07:34.840 --> 01:07:38.960
fishing at night. This is in June. And the other

1029
01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:41.920
thing about night fishing, that's for me because I'm not

1030
01:07:42.119 --> 01:07:45.880
good at it yet. If you're gonna throw a cast

1031
01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:51.440
net to catch bait, to fish for catfish, guglime fish,

1032
01:07:51.840 --> 01:07:54.039
it's hard to catch them. And during the day, especially

1033
01:07:54.039 --> 01:07:55.639
if you don't know how to throw a cast snat well,

1034
01:07:55.679 --> 01:07:58.320
if you do it at night, there are millions of them.

1035
01:07:58.320 --> 01:08:00.599
You catch them just throwing the net and lucky in

1036
01:08:00.599 --> 01:08:04.199
it open a little bit he catch for five. So

1037
01:08:04.199 --> 01:08:06.280
that's another reason I like tonight fish, so I can

1038
01:08:06.280 --> 01:08:10.519
get my bait from my jug lines. Right, I'm over

1039
01:08:10.559 --> 01:08:13.119
in this Party Cove area. Let me describe this to

1040
01:08:13.320 --> 01:08:16.840
Fort Cob Lake. If I had to guess, it's probably

1041
01:08:16.880 --> 01:08:21.159
five miles long, probably at its whitest, a mile and

1042
01:08:21.199 --> 01:08:25.880
a half wide, maybe two miles. I may be telling

1043
01:08:25.880 --> 01:08:30.920
this totally wrong, but the Party Cove area is probably

1044
01:08:31.119 --> 01:08:37.520
five hundred yards across the probably two d and fifty

1045
01:08:37.520 --> 01:08:40.399
three hundred yards, and beat all the party years are

1046
01:08:40.439 --> 01:08:43.439
on the left hand side, so therefore I fish on

1047
01:08:43.439 --> 01:08:48.640
the right hand side. Right I've been there's at night,

1048
01:08:48.720 --> 01:08:50.520
I've got one of my dogs with me that loves

1049
01:08:50.520 --> 01:08:56.119
to go fishing, and I hear something growling. I don't

1050
01:08:56.159 --> 01:08:59.319
really pay that much attention to it, dude, because I'm

1051
01:08:59.560 --> 01:09:03.359
I don't know, twenty five thirty feet deep of water

1052
01:09:03.520 --> 01:09:10.560
fishing and I'm seventy yards off of the shore, if

1053
01:09:10.600 --> 01:09:13.119
you will. And you got to remember, the cove is

1054
01:09:13.159 --> 01:09:15.279
the cove, and then there's a big peninsula that comes

1055
01:09:15.319 --> 01:09:19.119
out to my right. So I'm fishing and I hear

1056
01:09:19.159 --> 01:09:23.880
this thing growling, I really don't think that much about it, because, dude,

1057
01:09:23.960 --> 01:09:25.600
it ain't gonna come get me. I'm out in the water.

1058
01:09:26.399 --> 01:09:31.640
So and let me say this too. I have good

1059
01:09:31.760 --> 01:09:34.399
lights on my boat, but I don't have nothing that's

1060
01:09:34.479 --> 01:09:37.600
gonna shine one hundred yards away. I don't have anything

1061
01:09:37.680 --> 01:09:39.720
that good, and I need to get it, but I

1062
01:09:39.800 --> 01:09:44.640
just don't have it. So I wasn't thinking about trying

1063
01:09:44.640 --> 01:09:48.800
to spotlight anything. I'm just saying about fishing. So I

1064
01:09:48.840 --> 01:09:51.399
hear this thing growling that goes away after a little while.

1065
01:09:51.439 --> 01:09:54.520
I'm still fishing, got music playing in the background. My

1066
01:09:54.640 --> 01:09:59.359
dog's there with me, and then to my left about

1067
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:03.840
one hundred and fifty yards away. At first, I think,

1068
01:10:04.560 --> 01:10:07.560
are you familiar with what a boat wake sounds like

1069
01:10:07.640 --> 01:10:09.000
when it washes up on shore?

1070
01:10:11.239 --> 01:10:13.560
Not the most.

1071
01:10:14.800 --> 01:10:17.960
Okay, Okay, so when a wake, when a boat wake

1072
01:10:18.520 --> 01:10:24.880
washes up on shore, imagine a lot, lot, lot lower

1073
01:10:25.520 --> 01:10:31.439
decibel sound. But imagine a wave crashing from the ocean

1074
01:10:31.479 --> 01:10:35.039
to the shore and it makes a rolling sound. Okay.

1075
01:10:35.760 --> 01:10:38.279
I hear that sound, and I'm like, well, that was odd.

1076
01:10:39.479 --> 01:10:41.439
There hadn't been any boats out on the water set

1077
01:10:41.479 --> 01:10:44.760
for mine that night, and I hear that sound. I thought, man,

1078
01:10:44.760 --> 01:10:47.600
that's kind of odd. And then I heard it again,

1079
01:10:48.399 --> 01:10:50.640
and then I heard it again, and then I heard

1080
01:10:50.680 --> 01:10:54.920
it again. This is just odd. This doesn't make sense.

1081
01:10:56.079 --> 01:11:01.680
And remember I wasn't worried about that growling thing, right

1082
01:11:01.720 --> 01:11:03.920
because I'm on the water, it's in the land. I'm

1083
01:11:03.960 --> 01:11:08.760
not worried about it. I didn't put all this together

1084
01:11:08.880 --> 01:11:14.880
until later, except for after hearing that sound of something

1085
01:11:15.079 --> 01:11:19.600
washing up on shore several times, all of a sudden, dude,

1086
01:11:21.520 --> 01:11:23.920
if I could, if I could have seen it, Let's

1087
01:11:23.920 --> 01:11:27.479
say it was daylight. It had to have been the

1088
01:11:27.560 --> 01:11:31.119
size and the density of a bowling bolt. Had to

1089
01:11:31.199 --> 01:11:38.319
have been hits the water and makes a splash incredibly loud,

1090
01:11:38.600 --> 01:11:43.359
about twenty foot away from my boat. Okay, Now there's

1091
01:11:43.479 --> 01:11:46.640
big fish in this lake, big fish, and they jump

1092
01:11:46.680 --> 01:11:51.279
all the time. But when they jump, they jump make

1093
01:11:51.319 --> 01:11:53.199
a splash, and of course you hear it. You look

1094
01:11:53.279 --> 01:11:57.319
see where the fish is. This was no fish, because

1095
01:11:58.159 --> 01:12:02.399
a fish wouldn't have hit the water with that velocity

1096
01:12:03.680 --> 01:12:07.079
and from that high in the air, and it wouldn't

1097
01:12:07.119 --> 01:12:11.119
have made the sound of a big rock being thrown

1098
01:12:11.119 --> 01:12:14.479
in the water. I'm talking a rock that a man

1099
01:12:14.520 --> 01:12:16.720
would have had the granny throw between his legs, you

1100
01:12:16.760 --> 01:12:19.319
know what I mean, like a granny pitch to a

1101
01:12:19.359 --> 01:12:22.800
basketball or whatever. It's had to have been that big.

1102
01:12:23.079 --> 01:12:25.439
I didn't see it. I just heard it. It was

1103
01:12:25.439 --> 01:12:28.720
twenty foot from my boat. My dog looked at me,

1104
01:12:29.239 --> 01:12:31.520
and I looked at him, and I said, buddy, it's

1105
01:12:31.560 --> 01:12:35.920
time to go. So we laughed. And I thought about

1106
01:12:35.960 --> 01:12:40.079
it over the next few days, and that sound of

1107
01:12:40.159 --> 01:12:45.600
something washing up on the water also sounded like I

1108
01:12:45.720 --> 01:12:49.439
heard a cattle walking through water had of the same sound.

1109
01:12:50.720 --> 01:12:54.960
And I heard you talking to a fellow the other

1110
01:12:55.039 --> 01:12:57.640
day about one of them doing something over here to

1111
01:12:57.680 --> 01:12:59.880
get your attention, to get it away from what's going

1112
01:12:59.880 --> 01:13:06.760
on over there. Okay, I personally think I personally think

1113
01:13:08.199 --> 01:13:14.239
that there was more than one walking through the water.

1114
01:13:16.159 --> 01:13:19.079
And those things are too big to make a little noise.

1115
01:13:19.800 --> 01:13:22.000
They're too big in the water. They're too big to

1116
01:13:22.039 --> 01:13:24.520
make it a little noise. You're gonna hear them. And

1117
01:13:24.560 --> 01:13:27.439
then the thing so that's to my left, two hundred

1118
01:13:27.439 --> 01:13:29.800
and fifty yards away, and then the thing throwing the

1119
01:13:29.880 --> 01:13:34.880
rock at the water right by my boat, was drawing

1120
01:13:34.920 --> 01:13:37.319
my attention away from that, and he did a really

1121
01:13:37.399 --> 01:13:39.640
good job. Now I'm not like other people. I don't

1122
01:13:39.680 --> 01:13:43.960
think I will ever get over the fear of these things, okay.

1123
01:13:46.000 --> 01:13:47.720
And by the way, I think God gives us that

1124
01:13:47.760 --> 01:13:50.840
fear for a reason. And here's another little giddy for you.

1125
01:13:51.159 --> 01:13:54.119
I think that those things can project that to you.

1126
01:13:54.920 --> 01:14:00.239
And I'll tell you why here in a second that

1127
01:14:00.319 --> 01:14:03.199
happened to me. And Buddy got out of there and

1128
01:14:03.479 --> 01:14:06.359
come home, and I told my wife about him. She said,

1129
01:14:06.359 --> 01:14:09.680
don't you ever ask me to not fish again. I

1130
01:14:09.720 --> 01:14:14.439
was like, this, ma'am, I won't do that. And she

1131
01:14:14.520 --> 01:14:17.399
had all that in the Coleman that she wanted. She

1132
01:14:17.399 --> 01:14:18.960
didn't want no more of that kind of stuff. And

1133
01:14:20.640 --> 01:14:28.239
so anyway, that happened, and that was about June twenty

1134
01:14:28.319 --> 01:14:33.039
fifth ish. Okay, so it's not going to stop me

1135
01:14:33.079 --> 01:14:36.720
from fishing at night. I am going to be very cautious.

1136
01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:39.800
Ever since that day, I've been shopping for a spotlight

1137
01:14:39.840 --> 01:14:42.199
big enough to put in my boat and look all around.

1138
01:14:42.880 --> 01:14:45.279
I hadn't found it yet, but I'm still looking. And

1139
01:14:48.439 --> 01:14:52.239
but I hadn't forgot about it either, right, So that

1140
01:14:52.399 --> 01:14:58.000
happened June twenty fifish. So the fourth of July, this

1141
01:14:58.119 --> 01:15:01.560
lake is popping with people. There's probably ten thousand people

1142
01:15:01.640 --> 01:15:04.800
down here on the fourth that I'm not exaggerating. There's

1143
01:15:04.880 --> 01:15:08.520
people everywhere. So it's like, okay, it's time for you

1144
01:15:08.600 --> 01:15:11.880
to let them have the de lay and you just

1145
01:15:11.960 --> 01:15:15.520
kind of stay away. Now. I will also tell you

1146
01:15:15.520 --> 01:15:18.000
that that's just me, because that's just kind of how

1147
01:15:18.039 --> 01:15:22.439
I roll. But the fireworks displays that people put on

1148
01:15:22.439 --> 01:15:25.399
on the fourth are fun, nominal.

1149
01:15:25.479 --> 01:15:28.279
Big for society will be right back after these messages.

1150
01:15:44.359 --> 01:15:46.800
It's amazing to see on the water. It's beautiful to

1151
01:15:46.840 --> 01:15:52.079
watch all the fireworks. So anyway, one of my buddies, Fuld, said,

1152
01:15:52.079 --> 01:15:53.960
you've been out vision to ask no man, plead to

1153
01:15:54.039 --> 01:15:57.239
meet people to get and he said, didn't destripe for

1154
01:15:57.279 --> 01:15:59.239
a run, and you better get on them. So he

1155
01:15:59.319 --> 01:16:01.840
taught me into it right, and he wasn't able to go.

1156
01:16:01.920 --> 01:16:04.039
So a lot of times it's just me and my dog.

1157
01:16:05.199 --> 01:16:07.039
So me and my dog jump in the boat, we

1158
01:16:07.119 --> 01:16:10.399
take off out there. Fourth did youuly party cove on

1159
01:16:10.439 --> 01:16:14.039
the left hand side, there's literally five hundred people over there.

1160
01:16:15.960 --> 01:16:18.920
I'm fishing. I'm trolling, which you put a lure out

1161
01:16:18.960 --> 01:16:22.399
behind your boat about sixty yards and you just troll

1162
01:16:22.479 --> 01:16:24.880
with whatever you think of. Fish will bite and we

1163
01:16:24.920 --> 01:16:27.279
all talk to each other. Okay, today they're on white,

1164
01:16:27.319 --> 01:16:29.960
today they're on brown or chocolate, you know, whatever the

1165
01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:33.479
case may be. And so I'm trolling all the people

1166
01:16:33.560 --> 01:16:36.399
over here doing their thing, partying, swimming, having a good time.

1167
01:16:37.760 --> 01:16:41.439
And I trolled that cove several times because I'm catching

1168
01:16:41.479 --> 01:16:43.960
fish over there. It's a very fishy cove even though

1169
01:16:43.960 --> 01:16:47.000
there's that many people there. The other weird deal dude,

1170
01:16:47.319 --> 01:16:50.239
is the deer don't care that those people are there.

1171
01:16:50.840 --> 01:16:52.880
The people are on one side of the cove. There's

1172
01:16:53.000 --> 01:16:55.199
deer grazing on the other side of the cove, and

1173
01:16:55.239 --> 01:16:58.159
I'm watching all this, just snickering because me and other

1174
01:16:58.199 --> 01:17:01.840
deer hunters spend lots too much money trying to hunt deer.

1175
01:17:03.640 --> 01:17:06.079
And when people are out there partying with their music going,

1176
01:17:06.079 --> 01:17:08.039
the deer out there like they're kind of rocking along.

1177
01:17:08.079 --> 01:17:12.039
I don't know, but anyway, so the deer they don't

1178
01:17:12.079 --> 01:17:14.880
care that people are there. Now, another thing I've noticed

1179
01:17:14.960 --> 01:17:16.720
is if you get too close and you don't have

1180
01:17:16.880 --> 01:17:19.680
music going, the deer disappears. They don't want to be

1181
01:17:19.680 --> 01:17:22.840
around it because then I think they've got their hackles

1182
01:17:22.880 --> 01:17:26.119
up there something telling them, hey, this guy's watching us

1183
01:17:26.199 --> 01:17:28.840
or something. When I'll be around it. So anyway, the

1184
01:17:28.880 --> 01:17:31.920
deer are calm. There's people partying, the deer out drinking

1185
01:17:31.960 --> 01:17:34.800
on one tip to the point, and I just happened

1186
01:17:35.560 --> 01:17:39.039
to glance back in the woods and it would be

1187
01:17:39.119 --> 01:17:41.600
on the north side. I sent you that picture of

1188
01:17:41.640 --> 01:17:44.439
the aerial of the lake. It's going to be on

1189
01:17:44.479 --> 01:17:46.760
the north side of party cove. Now I know that

1190
01:17:47.079 --> 01:17:49.279
other folks may not be able to see this or whatever,

1191
01:17:49.319 --> 01:17:53.119
but there's a there's a mat with a boat ramp

1192
01:17:53.279 --> 01:17:55.520
on one side, and if you draw a forty five

1193
01:17:55.560 --> 01:17:59.720
degree angle across that lake, that big cove over there's

1194
01:17:59.760 --> 01:18:03.880
part cove. So the south side where all the people

1195
01:18:03.960 --> 01:18:07.840
are doing their thing. The north side is heavily wooded

1196
01:18:07.880 --> 01:18:10.800
back in the corner. And all of this, by the way,

1197
01:18:10.960 --> 01:18:13.680
is public hunting land, although there's not that many people

1198
01:18:13.720 --> 01:18:18.680
that hunt it. And so I'm trolling through there and

1199
01:18:18.720 --> 01:18:21.159
I happen to glance up into the woods because I'm

1200
01:18:21.239 --> 01:18:23.520
just wanting to see if there's any big bucks or whatever.

1201
01:18:25.279 --> 01:18:28.560
And this is the first time that I have a sighting.

1202
01:18:28.680 --> 01:18:31.880
And this makes no sense because it's the middle of

1203
01:18:31.920 --> 01:18:37.399
the day, two o'clock in the afternoon, freaking hove. And

1204
01:18:37.439 --> 01:18:40.600
I glance up into the deep woods and you can

1205
01:18:40.640 --> 01:18:43.600
see from about twelve foot down up there, it's big

1206
01:18:43.640 --> 01:18:48.319
oak trees, beautiful, but it's also heavily wooded. There's a

1207
01:18:48.359 --> 01:18:51.560
lot of woods out on the lake, and then there's

1208
01:18:52.520 --> 01:18:55.119
kind of a grassland area and then heavy woods again

1209
01:18:55.399 --> 01:18:57.479
back up in there about one hundred and fifty yards

1210
01:18:58.079 --> 01:19:01.000
and their one stood dude and I'm not talking about

1211
01:19:01.000 --> 01:19:04.159
a deer. I'm talking about a bigfoot. And now I'm

1212
01:19:04.199 --> 01:19:08.960
about two hundred yards away, so I can't make out

1213
01:19:09.000 --> 01:19:12.319
any facial detail or anything like that. The thing was

1214
01:19:12.439 --> 01:19:15.479
jet black. It was back in the woods. Wasn't out

1215
01:19:15.520 --> 01:19:17.840
on the shore or anything, but back up in the woods.

1216
01:19:19.079 --> 01:19:27.319
And it looked like Hulk Hogan. It looked like, uh,

1217
01:19:27.359 --> 01:19:30.279
the green dude, the big muscle green dude, I'm old.

1218
01:19:30.319 --> 01:19:36.439
I don't remember the name right now. Yeah, but but

1219
01:19:36.439 --> 01:19:43.640
but but bigger bowling ball shoulders. The thing had to

1220
01:19:43.680 --> 01:19:47.279
have been. And now you remember, this is from one glance,

1221
01:19:47.319 --> 01:19:50.399
and I'm putting this together over time in my mind

1222
01:19:50.479 --> 01:19:53.000
what I saw, because quite frankly, I didn't believe that

1223
01:19:53.079 --> 01:19:55.960
when I saw it, and I think most people the

1224
01:19:56.000 --> 01:19:58.279
first time they ever see one, they don't believe it.

1225
01:19:58.760 --> 01:20:03.079
Right there, they're mine, can't rationalize it. But I've been

1226
01:20:03.239 --> 01:20:07.000
back to that spot a hundred times, and I've looked

1227
01:20:07.039 --> 01:20:10.159
in those woods, even with my binoculars, one hundred times

1228
01:20:10.199 --> 01:20:13.319
since then. And yes, there's some shadows in there, but

1229
01:20:13.359 --> 01:20:16.640
there's nothing that's jet black, and there's nothing that's that

1230
01:20:16.800 --> 01:20:21.359
big and that wide with a head on it. Now,

1231
01:20:21.399 --> 01:20:23.520
this is a two hundred yard away siding. But the

1232
01:20:23.600 --> 01:20:26.680
thing was, Oh, it had to have been seven eight

1233
01:20:26.720 --> 01:20:28.920
foot tall, and it had to be four or five

1234
01:20:28.960 --> 01:20:33.640
foot wide. I'm talking. I would never want to be

1235
01:20:33.680 --> 01:20:39.600
close to that thing. So I saw it that day,

1236
01:20:40.319 --> 01:20:42.359
just for a split second. And I mean it was

1237
01:20:42.439 --> 01:20:49.439
just a split second. I turned around and I couldn't

1238
01:20:49.520 --> 01:20:52.159
recognize in my mind what I saw. So I'm back

1239
01:20:52.159 --> 01:20:55.520
to fishing. At that moment, I couldn't recognize it. It

1240
01:20:56.159 --> 01:20:59.720
didn't click until a day later. Dude, you saw one.

1241
01:21:00.239 --> 01:21:02.640
You saw the shadow of one on the fourth of July.

1242
01:21:03.319 --> 01:21:05.079
Now here's the deal. People can believe me or not.

1243
01:21:05.319 --> 01:21:09.359
It's fine. I don't care. But I know what I saw,

1244
01:21:09.640 --> 01:21:12.800
and if I don't see something, I'm not going to

1245
01:21:12.880 --> 01:21:18.760
say it. So and like I said, it took me

1246
01:21:18.800 --> 01:21:21.760
a long time for my mind to rationalize what I saw.

1247
01:21:21.800 --> 01:21:26.239
But then back to night fishing. About three weeks later,

1248
01:21:26.800 --> 01:21:29.720
it's getting along into August now and it's oh my god,

1249
01:21:29.760 --> 01:21:32.920
it's brutal. Heart So you if you fish at all,

1250
01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:36.439
you fish at six am until eight am, or you

1251
01:21:36.479 --> 01:21:40.159
fish from nine pm until two am. And that's what

1252
01:21:40.239 --> 01:21:42.319
I was doing. And I was back over in that cove.

1253
01:21:42.800 --> 01:21:48.800
Now here's the deal. There's tons of shad over there,

1254
01:21:48.840 --> 01:21:52.159
which is our bait fish, and I'm casting in that

1255
01:21:53.159 --> 01:21:57.199
with shad. I hear something on the opposite side of

1256
01:21:57.239 --> 01:22:01.039
the cove. Do an alcohol, but it ain't. Now I've

1257
01:22:01.039 --> 01:22:03.600
heard plenty of barn ows and it ain't and out

1258
01:22:03.640 --> 01:22:06.399
but it's doing it. Call. I didn't pay any attention

1259
01:22:06.439 --> 01:22:10.479
to it at first. I'm casting my net. I've got

1260
01:22:10.520 --> 01:22:12.800
five or six shad the dogs with me in the boat.

1261
01:22:13.479 --> 01:22:18.159
I cast it again, a couple more shad, and I

1262
01:22:18.199 --> 01:22:22.640
don't know how to describe this or whatever. It quite

1263
01:22:22.640 --> 01:22:25.640
frankly don't make any sense to me. But all of

1264
01:22:25.680 --> 01:22:31.159
a sudden, I got scared. As crap, my legs started shaking.

1265
01:22:31.239 --> 01:22:34.520
I got scared. And now, when you're casting for shad,

1266
01:22:34.920 --> 01:22:36.800
if you're no good at it like I am, you

1267
01:22:36.800 --> 01:22:38.960
don't do it when you're in eight, nine, ten, twelve

1268
01:22:39.000 --> 01:22:40.560
foot of water. You do it in three foot of water,

1269
01:22:40.600 --> 01:22:44.439
so you're close to shore. Okay, this lake is a

1270
01:22:44.520 --> 01:22:47.720
real sandy bottom in a lot of areas, and so

1271
01:22:47.800 --> 01:22:51.199
it's really shallow in a lot of areas. And all

1272
01:22:51.199 --> 01:22:56.239
of a sudden, dude, I got freaking scared. And I

1273
01:22:56.319 --> 01:22:58.920
looked at the dog and I said, let's go. I've

1274
01:22:58.920 --> 01:23:02.000
got enough shad. So I fired up the boat and

1275
01:23:02.039 --> 01:23:04.640
I got out of there. And as I was leaving

1276
01:23:05.319 --> 01:23:09.680
from across the other side again I heard the alcohol again.

1277
01:23:11.319 --> 01:23:16.239
Now here's the deal. Put this in your mind. All

1278
01:23:16.279 --> 01:23:21.880
of the action that I had witnessed or been preevy

1279
01:23:21.920 --> 01:23:24.840
to it has been on the far north side of

1280
01:23:24.880 --> 01:23:28.920
that coat. I was on the far south side. I

1281
01:23:28.920 --> 01:23:33.359
had no reason to get steared done. But all of

1282
01:23:33.399 --> 01:23:36.880
a sudden I started shaking, and something in my head

1283
01:23:36.920 --> 01:23:40.239
said get out of there. So I've learned over my

1284
01:23:40.359 --> 01:23:45.359
many years to listen. My son and I were up

1285
01:23:45.359 --> 01:23:49.520
elk hunting and he encountered a big bear at about

1286
01:23:49.560 --> 01:23:52.640
twenty yards. We didn't have a license for a bear.

1287
01:23:52.720 --> 01:23:57.680
We were bow hunting. And now here's the deal. It

1288
01:23:57.840 --> 01:24:00.039
was my son, my thirty three year old that I

1289
01:24:00.039 --> 01:24:02.359
I raised and had in the woods all his life,

1290
01:24:02.359 --> 01:24:06.279
and he was yelling, hey bear. But I could have

1291
01:24:06.840 --> 01:24:09.439
I didn't think it was him. I truly thought there

1292
01:24:09.520 --> 01:24:13.319
was someone else up there yelling hey bear. But it

1293
01:24:13.439 --> 01:24:15.880
was him, and he was so excited that his voice

1294
01:24:15.920 --> 01:24:20.640
had changed. Okay, I think there's times and I think

1295
01:24:20.680 --> 01:24:25.600
there's times in people's lives where there's adrenaline. Everything is

1296
01:24:25.680 --> 01:24:28.560
telling you this is a very dangerous situation and you

1297
01:24:28.680 --> 01:24:32.720
got to get away from it. And I can't explain why,

1298
01:24:33.119 --> 01:24:36.279
but that's what I felt that night. Like I said,

1299
01:24:36.359 --> 01:24:38.600
I've been within two foot of bears. I had one

1300
01:24:38.640 --> 01:24:40.319
in the back of my pick up one time due

1301
01:24:40.960 --> 01:24:42.960
after a ham that we had in a fueler the

1302
01:24:43.039 --> 01:24:45.439
night before. I didn't realize there was a bear in

1303
01:24:45.479 --> 01:24:47.920
my truck and I grabbed it from the edge of

1304
01:24:47.960 --> 01:24:51.239
a pretty steep bang and I pulled over and I'm

1305
01:24:51.279 --> 01:24:54.800
looking at that bear pretty much face to face. So

1306
01:24:55.000 --> 01:24:59.560
I've been in some very scary situations. I dove it.

1307
01:24:59.640 --> 01:25:01.640
By the way, it just quick side note. I dove

1308
01:25:01.680 --> 01:25:04.840
in my truck. The bear jumped out of my truck

1309
01:25:05.159 --> 01:25:07.239
and I was scared to death. I rolled the windy down.

1310
01:25:07.279 --> 01:25:10.239
My brother in law was with me, and I yelled,

1311
01:25:10.640 --> 01:25:13.000
and he immediately threw his stuff in there and took

1312
01:25:13.000 --> 01:25:15.239
off running across. I think the boy walked on water.

1313
01:25:15.640 --> 01:25:19.039
He was running across the top of the tree and

1314
01:25:19.079 --> 01:25:22.560
this bear ran off, and this couple come up said, sir,

1315
01:25:22.560 --> 01:25:24.000
do you know you had a bear in the back

1316
01:25:24.000 --> 01:25:27.840
of your truck. That's just ma'am. We met, so I

1317
01:25:27.960 --> 01:25:33.520
bet in some crazy, crazy situations. But as I drove off,

1318
01:25:33.760 --> 01:25:36.880
I heard drove off with my boat from that spot,

1319
01:25:37.079 --> 01:25:41.800
I heard that I'll call three distinct calls and then

1320
01:25:41.840 --> 01:25:46.560
shut up. And my thinking was whatever had waded across

1321
01:25:46.640 --> 01:25:50.520
that area that night that the thing threw the rock

1322
01:25:50.600 --> 01:25:56.199
at me was over right by me. In other words,

1323
01:25:56.239 --> 01:25:59.399
not the big dude, but maybe his family members. I

1324
01:25:59.399 --> 01:26:02.920
don't know how this work was over by me on

1325
01:26:02.960 --> 01:26:08.119
the opposite shore where I was casting my net, and

1326
01:26:08.199 --> 01:26:12.079
when he did those alcohols. This is just my mind.

1327
01:26:12.119 --> 01:26:14.000
It could be wrong, it could be right. I don't know.

1328
01:26:14.800 --> 01:26:18.920
Whatever it was projected something to me and scared the

1329
01:26:18.960 --> 01:26:21.279
living crap out of me, and I knew it was

1330
01:26:21.279 --> 01:26:24.439
time to leap. And then I heard those three distinct

1331
01:26:24.520 --> 01:26:28.520
alcohols as I was leaving, and it was not an owl.

1332
01:26:29.600 --> 01:26:30.399
So and.

1333
01:26:32.640 --> 01:26:37.319
There in a minute, there's a question I want to

1334
01:26:37.359 --> 01:26:38.039
ask you about that.

1335
01:26:38.760 --> 01:26:40.760
Yeah, no, I was just going to say, I mean,

1336
01:26:40.840 --> 01:26:45.039
besides that, man, I raised a garden over here. I

1337
01:26:45.319 --> 01:26:48.199
hunt and still plan to, and I love fishing in

1338
01:26:48.239 --> 01:26:53.359
the lake. But if you look up big foot sidings

1339
01:26:53.359 --> 01:26:58.119
in Oklahoma, there's been several sightings of Bigfoot around this lake.

1340
01:26:58.439 --> 01:27:04.079
There's been several sidings in a little bitty town only

1341
01:27:04.199 --> 01:27:07.039
five six miles from here, five maybe ten fifteen miles

1342
01:27:07.079 --> 01:27:10.119
from here. And then of course you got everything in

1343
01:27:10.159 --> 01:27:13.800
the eastern part of the state. So if you did

1344
01:27:13.840 --> 01:27:19.039
an aerial map of Oklahoma, all of that land from

1345
01:27:19.079 --> 01:27:26.079
down there where the Eastern Mountains are down there, all

1346
01:27:26.159 --> 01:27:28.800
the way through Macomb, where we used to live, all

1347
01:27:28.840 --> 01:27:30.439
the way up to here, which is two and a

1348
01:27:30.520 --> 01:27:37.000
half hours west of there. There's mountain ranges within that area.

1349
01:27:37.119 --> 01:27:41.560
There's creets. My god, the lakes are everywhere. Those things

1350
01:27:41.600 --> 01:27:46.600
could travel all the way through Oklahoma, and as stealthy

1351
01:27:46.640 --> 01:27:53.520
as they are, they could avoid humans unless they basically

1352
01:27:53.720 --> 01:27:59.000
wanted humans to know they were there. And I personally think,

1353
01:28:00.000 --> 01:28:03.359
personally think because of the other things that I've experienced

1354
01:28:03.359 --> 01:28:09.439
in my life, it opened me up to be able

1355
01:28:09.479 --> 01:28:12.399
to experience that, If that makes any sense, I almost

1356
01:28:12.399 --> 01:28:18.560
think I've been marked in a way, because you can

1357
01:28:18.600 --> 01:28:23.439
be spiritually marked right in a good way or a

1358
01:28:23.439 --> 01:28:30.199
bad way. And I believe personally, I believe I've had

1359
01:28:30.399 --> 01:28:34.279
three or four Guardian angels that have retired because of

1360
01:28:34.319 --> 01:28:39.000
me and the way I because they're like bedore us

1361
01:28:39.039 --> 01:28:41.800
out man, you know. I mean all the different things

1362
01:28:41.840 --> 01:28:44.720
that's happened in my life that I've been a part of.

1363
01:28:46.199 --> 01:28:49.720
I've been so blessed in life and so fortunate in life.

1364
01:28:49.840 --> 01:28:54.640
I had a debilitating back injury happened early in life.

1365
01:28:56.359 --> 01:29:00.560
I deal with a lot of pain, but but I

1366
01:29:00.600 --> 01:29:03.680
don't That's not what I choose to focus on. I

1367
01:29:03.760 --> 01:29:06.680
choose to focus on the memories of taking a one

1368
01:29:06.760 --> 01:29:09.119
man basketball down the Rio Grand River to try to

1369
01:29:09.159 --> 01:29:11.600
catch a big fish and getting it done, and the

1370
01:29:11.800 --> 01:29:13.800
almost dying on the way trying to get out of

1371
01:29:13.800 --> 01:29:17.920
the river. I remember things like that, and I think

1372
01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:21.680
God lets you experience things to shape you into the

1373
01:29:21.720 --> 01:29:25.039
person that he wants you to be. But so that

1374
01:29:25.039 --> 01:29:29.760
that are my that are my Those are my my sightings. Man.

1375
01:29:29.800 --> 01:29:33.199
That's that's what I've experienced. Is those what four or

1376
01:29:33.239 --> 01:29:37.159
five things in my life as far as big Foot's related.

1377
01:29:37.199 --> 01:29:40.359
But people can laugh at me all day or say

1378
01:29:40.399 --> 01:29:43.960
there's no way they're real, and I'm sorry, but they are. Uh,

1379
01:29:44.079 --> 01:29:47.560
there's things in this world that we don't understand.

1380
01:29:48.319 --> 01:29:50.680
I agree with you. Thank you for sharing those So

1381
01:29:50.840 --> 01:29:54.880
when you were over in Fort Cobb Lake. You said

1382
01:29:54.920 --> 01:29:59.840
there was a point where you were like, you heard

1383
01:30:00.039 --> 01:30:03.399
it's time to go now. Did you actually hear something

1384
01:30:03.880 --> 01:30:05.720
in your mind or you were just like have the

1385
01:30:05.800 --> 01:30:07.399
vibe where it's like, all right, time to go.

1386
01:30:11.000 --> 01:30:13.199
It was just the vibe, dude. I didn't have a

1387
01:30:13.640 --> 01:30:17.199
a I didn't have a mind speak. Although after listening

1388
01:30:17.239 --> 01:30:21.640
to some of the folks on your podcast, I'm open

1389
01:30:21.640 --> 01:30:25.399
to that. Like I said, there's things that we don't

1390
01:30:25.479 --> 01:30:28.960
understand in this world and for people to be smug

1391
01:30:29.520 --> 01:30:37.039
enough to think that they know it, all human beings

1392
01:30:37.119 --> 01:30:40.199
are the most smug preachers.

1393
01:30:40.920 --> 01:30:44.279
Big for society who will be right back after these messages.

1394
01:30:59.720 --> 01:31:02.119
Were supposed to be on the top of the food chain,

1395
01:31:02.479 --> 01:31:05.479
Give me a break. Don't go in the ocean. Don't

1396
01:31:05.479 --> 01:31:08.560
go out on the coast of Florida and wait around

1397
01:31:08.600 --> 01:31:10.720
too much in the ocean, you realize real quick you're

1398
01:31:10.760 --> 01:31:14.199
not top of the food chain. Right. There are things

1399
01:31:14.680 --> 01:31:18.600
in all areas of this world that can and will

1400
01:31:18.680 --> 01:31:25.119
kill and eat you. And I think that the spiritual

1401
01:31:25.239 --> 01:31:29.800
side of the whole big Foot phenomenon is so real

1402
01:31:30.039 --> 01:31:33.079
and so tangible. But you've got to be willing to

1403
01:31:33.119 --> 01:31:35.479
open your mind up to it. And if you're not,

1404
01:31:35.560 --> 01:31:38.000
you're not. You know, if there's I'm sure there's people

1405
01:31:38.000 --> 01:31:39.760
that are gonna listen to this laugh all day long.

1406
01:31:39.800 --> 01:31:44.800
That dumb Redney. That's fine. I don't care. The things

1407
01:31:44.880 --> 01:31:48.239
I've seen, I've seen and there's no reason not to

1408
01:31:48.279 --> 01:31:48.800
tell people.

1409
01:31:49.119 --> 01:31:52.359
So what what do you mean by the spiritual side

1410
01:31:52.359 --> 01:31:53.319
of Bigfoot?

1411
01:31:55.039 --> 01:31:59.960
Oh? Dude, come on anywhere anywhere there's anywhere there's name

1412
01:32:00.199 --> 01:32:06.680
of things happening. There's there's tales of Bigfoot that go back.

1413
01:32:07.319 --> 01:32:11.319
These these things go back, dude for eons of time, right,

1414
01:32:11.560 --> 01:32:14.880
And I've heard you ask guys before, what do you

1415
01:32:14.880 --> 01:32:19.039
think they are? Well, I think they're they're descendants of Niphyl. Okay,

1416
01:32:20.039 --> 01:32:24.720
the the Bible says there's nothing new in this world. Okay, well,

1417
01:32:25.439 --> 01:32:27.800
I don't know why. But our government one hundred years

1418
01:32:27.800 --> 01:32:30.840
ago are almost two hundredyears ago. Now, no, it was

1419
01:32:30.880 --> 01:32:33.840
two hundredews ago. I'm sorry, decided that we don't need

1420
01:32:33.880 --> 01:32:36.119
to know that there was giants in this world. They've

1421
01:32:36.199 --> 01:32:38.680
hit it off, right, but if you dig into it,

1422
01:32:38.800 --> 01:32:42.319
they're there. Uh. The whole red headed thing, A whole

1423
01:32:42.359 --> 01:32:48.000
bunch of people report seeing red headed bigfoots. When the

1424
01:32:48.079 --> 01:32:51.079
fallen a little bit of a Bible lesson when the

1425
01:32:51.119 --> 01:32:57.039
fallen decided to fall to earth and leave their heavenly physicians.

1426
01:32:57.640 --> 01:33:01.359
They've made it with earthly women because they found them beautiful.

1427
01:33:01.439 --> 01:33:04.880
Well they're right, they are beautiful. But they made it

1428
01:33:04.920 --> 01:33:10.840
with them and created giants. Right, there's giant genealogy to

1429
01:33:11.079 --> 01:33:14.840
this day. I mean that's where you know, we think

1430
01:33:14.880 --> 01:33:18.079
seven foot tall Shaq is freaking giant, and he is.

1431
01:33:18.560 --> 01:33:24.319
Please don't misunderstand that that man is giant, but not

1432
01:33:24.479 --> 01:33:25.920
compared to what used to be here.

1433
01:33:26.920 --> 01:33:29.319
Oh absolutely, I mean way bigger stuff.

1434
01:33:29.399 --> 01:33:34.840
Yeah, way bigger and so okay. Also, there's something I

1435
01:33:34.880 --> 01:33:36.920
hadn't even looked. You know. What's funny enough that two

1436
01:33:36.960 --> 01:33:40.279
pages of note I didn't even looked down once. I

1437
01:33:40.279 --> 01:33:45.520
hadn't looked. I'd read a single note. But there was

1438
01:33:45.520 --> 01:33:48.000
a gentleman the other day talking about what happened in

1439
01:33:48.079 --> 01:33:50.439
lake Ford County. Could I set the record straight on

1440
01:33:50.520 --> 01:33:51.119
that a little bit?

1441
01:33:54.079 --> 01:33:55.479
Yeah, okay, go for it.

1442
01:33:56.800 --> 01:33:58.960
He didn't say anything wrong. I just don't think he

1443
01:33:59.039 --> 01:34:01.840
knows the whole sport, all right, the whole story of

1444
01:34:01.960 --> 01:34:08.159
Laford County. That name Lafleur was a chief. He was

1445
01:34:08.199 --> 01:34:10.560
an Indian, He was a native chief. He was well

1446
01:34:10.640 --> 01:34:14.359
known in that area in the early eighteen hundred, eighteen

1447
01:34:14.439 --> 01:34:19.039
fifty or not fifteen eighteen fifteen, Okay, and you remember

1448
01:34:19.079 --> 01:34:23.439
me talking about the Trail of Tears. His people were

1449
01:34:23.520 --> 01:34:28.720
pushed I believe, from Georgia or South Carolina, Georgia in

1450
01:34:28.760 --> 01:34:38.479
that area Alabama, pushed into Oklahoma in eighteen fifteen. They

1451
01:34:38.640 --> 01:34:44.039
landed basically in lafora county down there. Uh, they set

1452
01:34:44.119 --> 01:34:47.720
up camp, the natives did, and they set up their homes.

1453
01:34:47.720 --> 01:34:50.039
It wasn't camp where there's gonna live. They set it up.

1454
01:34:50.520 --> 01:34:59.039
There were a few white people in the area at

1455
01:34:59.039 --> 01:35:01.880
that time, the mainly fur traders. Not much more than

1456
01:35:01.880 --> 01:35:05.359
fur traders in that time. It's way way early in America.

1457
01:35:06.000 --> 01:35:10.359
Most people haven't left the East Coast at this point.

1458
01:35:10.600 --> 01:35:15.399
And so anyway, they set up their tents. And now

1459
01:35:16.159 --> 01:35:17.880
I don't want to go too deep into this, but

1460
01:35:19.000 --> 01:35:25.840
they their particular people had a issue with the time

1461
01:35:25.880 --> 01:35:27.920
of the month that women go through. We all know

1462
01:35:27.960 --> 01:35:31.760
what I'm talking about. So they actually put an area

1463
01:35:31.920 --> 01:35:35.680
outside of tent. They set up through three tenths for

1464
01:35:35.840 --> 01:35:38.680
sick people. And for women that that was happening with

1465
01:35:39.479 --> 01:35:42.119
that was their tradition. That's the way I've heard it, Okay,

1466
01:35:46.039 --> 01:35:48.520
And then and this is just when they set up everything.

1467
01:35:48.800 --> 01:35:50.960
This is and by the way, I don't know any

1468
01:35:50.960 --> 01:35:52.680
of this to be true. There's no way I could,

1469
01:35:53.159 --> 01:35:56.479
but I've heard the stories down through time enough that

1470
01:35:56.960 --> 01:36:02.399
this is what I believe. They started having livestock disappear,

1471
01:36:03.039 --> 01:36:06.680
and when I say livestock, whatever Indians considered livestock, which

1472
01:36:06.800 --> 01:36:14.359
was dogs, horses, chickens, whatever, disappear and be gone. And

1473
01:36:14.479 --> 01:36:17.479
people started complaining to the floor. Who was at that

1474
01:36:17.560 --> 01:36:21.479
time a young man, and he was a he was

1475
01:36:21.560 --> 01:36:23.279
well known at that point, but he was still a

1476
01:36:23.279 --> 01:36:27.800
young man. Uh and he was a leader in the

1477
01:36:27.920 --> 01:36:32.520
in the in the native area, and he had a

1478
01:36:32.600 --> 01:36:37.000
bunch of young men with him in their tribe. People

1479
01:36:37.039 --> 01:36:41.279
started complaining that their livestock was being taken, and whoever

1480
01:36:41.319 --> 01:36:44.800
did it was incredibly sneaky because they'd never seen them. Okay.

1481
01:36:46.039 --> 01:36:52.119
Then all of a sudden, women started coming up missing,

1482
01:36:54.239 --> 01:36:59.399
a few children started coming up missing. And so at

1483
01:36:59.439 --> 01:37:02.880
that point Lafour and his men said, We're not putting

1484
01:37:02.920 --> 01:37:04.720
up with this for one more second. Of course, their

1485
01:37:04.840 --> 01:37:07.079
native They know how to hunt, they know how to track,

1486
01:37:08.000 --> 01:37:12.960
so they start tracking what's going on, and they get

1487
01:37:13.000 --> 01:37:16.560
to an area that they only described as absolutely gruesome,

1488
01:37:17.479 --> 01:37:23.439
where there were parts of bodies laying around and in

1489
01:37:23.520 --> 01:37:26.560
a pile, so to speak, and there was defecation around

1490
01:37:26.560 --> 01:37:31.720
those parts. And they were furious because these men that

1491
01:37:31.800 --> 01:37:35.600
had stole their women and their and their livestock had

1492
01:37:35.840 --> 01:37:40.800
just basically cannibalized them. Okay, keep that in your mind,

1493
01:37:41.720 --> 01:37:43.199
and I'm going to finish this story, and then I

1494
01:37:43.199 --> 01:37:47.840
want to tie this to the Nephelone thing. They had

1495
01:37:47.880 --> 01:37:53.560
cannibalized them, and so they started yelling and hooping. And

1496
01:37:53.600 --> 01:37:57.720
now by this time they did have a few long rifles,

1497
01:37:57.760 --> 01:38:01.279
what they called the smokeholes in the group. Two or

1498
01:38:01.279 --> 01:38:04.399
three men had them. Most were armed with their bows

1499
01:38:04.439 --> 01:38:08.760
and their knives. And a big foot stepped out. Of course,

1500
01:38:08.800 --> 01:38:10.479
they didn't know what that's what that was. They just

1501
01:38:10.520 --> 01:38:15.680
called it a giant carryman and it charged Lafleur. He

1502
01:38:15.800 --> 01:38:18.439
was in the front. The leaders are supposed to lead

1503
01:38:18.520 --> 01:38:23.000
from the front. He was in the front, and when

1504
01:38:23.039 --> 01:38:26.680
it charged, he charged right. They were so infuriated by

1505
01:38:26.880 --> 01:38:31.479
what they saw that all fear went out the window.

1506
01:38:31.560 --> 01:38:35.279
They were there to kill them, and there were according

1507
01:38:35.279 --> 01:38:39.159
to the legend, this is all legend, there were four

1508
01:38:39.279 --> 01:38:42.159
or five of the creatures. I'm not going to call

1509
01:38:42.199 --> 01:38:44.319
them animals. I don't think they I think they're part

1510
01:38:44.399 --> 01:38:46.840
but maybe not all. There were four or five of

1511
01:38:46.880 --> 01:38:52.680
the creatures there, and Lafleur was tangled up. It was

1512
01:38:52.800 --> 01:38:56.439
no fistfight, That's what I want to straighten out. He

1513
01:38:56.640 --> 01:39:03.479
had shot the thing and wounded the thing and proceeded

1514
01:39:03.520 --> 01:39:06.439
to go, and he thought he had killed it. He

1515
01:39:06.520 --> 01:39:09.640
proceeded to go cut his head off with his knife.

1516
01:39:10.079 --> 01:39:13.199
That was what he was after, right, He was wanting

1517
01:39:13.239 --> 01:39:16.319
to show that he was the boss, and he was

1518
01:39:16.359 --> 01:39:19.880
able to do that. Right when he went to do that,

1519
01:39:19.920 --> 01:39:22.079
the thing tore eman happened to his head off, to

1520
01:39:22.359 --> 01:39:27.119
la Floor's head off. His men then set in on

1521
01:39:27.239 --> 01:39:31.359
those animals and killed them. So according to that legend,

1522
01:39:31.359 --> 01:39:34.199
they're flesh and blood. They sat in on them and

1523
01:39:35.439 --> 01:39:39.680
shot and killed until they killed them all, and reportedly

1524
01:39:39.720 --> 01:39:41.439
cut one of them's head off and took it back

1525
01:39:41.479 --> 01:39:50.039
with him. And that's where that man, that cheek was

1526
01:39:50.039 --> 01:39:53.239
so well known that his name is the name of

1527
01:39:53.239 --> 01:39:57.760
that county. It wasn't on this fight. It was a

1528
01:39:57.800 --> 01:40:02.880
fight to live. That's the legend that I heard, and

1529
01:40:02.920 --> 01:40:07.479
I've seen it told and heard it told four different ways,

1530
01:40:09.159 --> 01:40:13.039
so that I just wanted to square that that's that's

1531
01:40:13.079 --> 01:40:19.640
the legend that I've heard. Well, I'm not saying anybody

1532
01:40:19.640 --> 01:40:21.600
else is wrong, but it was so much more than

1533
01:40:21.640 --> 01:40:22.279
just a fistfight.

1534
01:40:22.880 --> 01:40:28.680
So but yeah, absolutely, how what kind of people did

1535
01:40:28.720 --> 01:40:31.600
you hear your version from. I'm just curious because it's

1536
01:40:31.640 --> 01:40:37.119
it's pretty much grown in different eras different ways.

1537
01:40:37.800 --> 01:40:43.880
I've googled it and I've read the legend that way,

1538
01:40:45.520 --> 01:40:49.439
and then I've read different reports from different people, including

1539
01:40:49.560 --> 01:40:53.600
a native report, not firsthand, but read an account of

1540
01:40:53.640 --> 01:40:56.720
it from them. So that's the legend that I've heard.

1541
01:40:57.880 --> 01:41:03.279
And it was there were only one or two bird

1542
01:41:03.319 --> 01:41:05.920
trappers white men in the area at that time when

1543
01:41:05.920 --> 01:41:10.399
that happened. And then Laflora County the name Laflora County

1544
01:41:10.479 --> 01:41:13.720
comes from the man who died in that battle, so

1545
01:41:13.760 --> 01:41:16.359
it was it wasn't all out siege as far as

1546
01:41:16.439 --> 01:41:22.560
I'm concerned. And that is, by the way, dude, that's

1547
01:41:22.680 --> 01:41:26.119
right there by Boggy Creek. I mean, you're only traveling

1548
01:41:26.239 --> 01:41:30.199
sixty sixty miles to Boggy Creek. Yeah, where there were

1549
01:41:30.279 --> 01:41:36.520
running such as that. Okay, So now I have seen

1550
01:41:36.560 --> 01:41:39.520
and heard people say about gifting and leaving gifts and

1551
01:41:39.560 --> 01:41:42.880
all that. Well, they're on a different level from me.

1552
01:41:43.479 --> 01:41:46.680
I fully believe what they're talking about. And maybe someday

1553
01:41:46.680 --> 01:41:48.439
I'll get there. I kind of doubt it, but maybe

1554
01:41:48.439 --> 01:41:54.840
I will. Who knows what's planning. But I have a

1555
01:41:55.000 --> 01:41:57.359
very healthy fear in respect of those things.

1556
01:41:57.520 --> 01:41:59.920
Oh absolutely, I think anyone should have.

1557
01:42:00.000 --> 01:42:04.479
I cannot have that, yeah, oh absolutely. And not only

1558
01:42:04.479 --> 01:42:08.319
do I have that fear and respect, but they were

1559
01:42:08.319 --> 01:42:10.800
here before us. They have every right to be here.

1560
01:42:12.520 --> 01:42:16.520
They have every right to be here. And I, personally,

1561
01:42:16.520 --> 01:42:20.079
this is my own personal thought. When that thing was

1562
01:42:20.079 --> 01:42:24.079
telling me to leave, or telling or drawing my attention

1563
01:42:24.159 --> 01:42:28.079
away from the waiting that was going on around beside me,

1564
01:42:30.239 --> 01:42:33.119
I would have been a complete fool not to bow

1565
01:42:33.199 --> 01:42:37.159
out and leave right the thing is telling me, Hey,

1566
01:42:38.039 --> 01:42:40.000
And now look at it this way. What if it

1567
01:42:40.039 --> 01:42:42.279
was you and your family. What if you were over

1568
01:42:42.359 --> 01:42:45.119
in the woods and some old boy pulls up Parks's

1569
01:42:45.199 --> 01:42:47.920
both there, and you're cool with it, but then here

1570
01:42:47.960 --> 01:42:52.640
comes your family. That is a half of my eye.

1571
01:42:52.680 --> 01:42:54.600
I am out a half of my probably four hundred yards

1572
01:42:54.640 --> 01:43:01.960
away waiting in the water. Well. That creature doesn't know

1573
01:43:02.000 --> 01:43:06.680
if I'm friendly or a freak with a ar right exactly,

1574
01:43:07.199 --> 01:43:10.479
and so he has he has every right to tell

1575
01:43:10.560 --> 01:43:14.399
me to get out of there. So and so I'm

1576
01:43:14.439 --> 01:43:18.079
always going to you know, if there ever comes a

1577
01:43:18.159 --> 01:43:20.439
day when something more than that happens, I will let

1578
01:43:20.520 --> 01:43:27.159
you know. But but uh, I'm going to respect them.

1579
01:43:27.199 --> 01:43:29.640
I don't want to kill one. I hope no one

1580
01:43:29.640 --> 01:43:32.479
ever kills one. I don't need them to be I

1581
01:43:32.520 --> 01:43:35.359
don't need them to be discovered. As far as I'm concerned,

1582
01:43:35.399 --> 01:43:39.159
our government probably already knows they're here. I don't need

1583
01:43:39.199 --> 01:43:42.039
them to be discovered, right, I mean other people want that.

1584
01:43:42.119 --> 01:43:44.399
Other people want to lay a dead one on a table.

1585
01:43:47.600 --> 01:43:50.880
That's ludicrous to me. Leave them alone, Let them do

1586
01:43:50.920 --> 01:43:53.359
their thing. Now. If you want to go go research

1587
01:43:53.399 --> 01:43:57.520
them and learn about them, by all means, get after it.

1588
01:43:58.199 --> 01:44:00.199
But if you want to go in the woods just

1589
01:44:00.199 --> 01:44:04.840
to kill one, you just don't, because you're killing a

1590
01:44:05.079 --> 01:44:07.359
higher being, if it's even possible.

1591
01:44:07.640 --> 01:44:11.359
I think more researchers need to be aware of what

1592
01:44:11.399 --> 01:44:14.840
could happen to them if they're going out and read.

1593
01:44:14.920 --> 01:44:18.159
And I don't think people are aware of what could

1594
01:44:18.199 --> 01:44:23.760
potentially happen. You can be affected physically and you have

1595
01:44:23.840 --> 01:44:26.239
to be aware of that that stuff can happen.

1596
01:44:27.720 --> 01:44:34.319
Did the infrasound thing, That's what that was that night.

1597
01:44:35.439 --> 01:44:39.640
That's that good feeling that hit me. That that's what

1598
01:44:39.680 --> 01:44:45.119
it was. I listened to that. That lady up in Washington,

1599
01:44:45.199 --> 01:44:49.880
I'm not real good with names. Uh, very pretty long,

1600
01:44:49.920 --> 01:44:53.199
gray haired lady that's a very spiritual person, has been

1601
01:44:53.239 --> 01:44:55.640
around them a long time and she was hit with

1602
01:44:55.720 --> 01:44:58.920
in forsound and described it and that's what happened to me. M.

1603
01:45:00.600 --> 01:45:05.159
He has researched them for years. She highly respects them,

1604
01:45:06.479 --> 01:45:09.680
and and I believe everything the woman says because it

1605
01:45:09.680 --> 01:45:13.680
comes from her heart and can tell it's easy. But

1606
01:45:14.199 --> 01:45:20.119
as far as the tie to the Nephelum, okay that

1607
01:45:20.159 --> 01:45:23.760
they're called in the Bible the great men of Old Okay,

1608
01:45:23.840 --> 01:45:28.720
or they did, it's very briefly mentioned in Genesis the

1609
01:45:28.720 --> 01:45:37.640
the the giants of Old, and but so the following

1610
01:45:38.279 --> 01:45:42.439
bread with Earth's women and created giants. The whole reason

1611
01:45:42.479 --> 01:45:45.720
for the flood was to then that out to wipe

1612
01:45:45.760 --> 01:45:49.920
them off the face, right, because not because they were here,

1613
01:45:49.960 --> 01:45:55.880
but because they were eating and killing men. Anytime a

1614
01:45:55.960 --> 01:46:01.800
giant was around they they were known to be cannibalistic. Okay,

1615
01:46:02.199 --> 01:46:07.960
is that kind of check a box. Here's the other

1616
01:46:08.039 --> 01:46:12.640
thing that I've read. So if you're going to read something,

1617
01:46:12.680 --> 01:46:15.960
if you're going to dive into something, just dive.

1618
01:46:15.800 --> 01:46:19.319
In big, for society will be right back after these messages.

1619
01:46:35.319 --> 01:46:38.159
And so I fully believe in the Bible. Well, I've

1620
01:46:38.159 --> 01:46:40.920
also heard of the Book of Enoch. The Book of Enoch.

1621
01:46:42.039 --> 01:46:45.960
Enoch goes and talks to the giants and talks to

1622
01:46:46.039 --> 01:46:49.319
the fallen ones and says, this is what God is saying,

1623
01:46:49.920 --> 01:46:52.439
and this is what you're doing, and He is very

1624
01:46:52.520 --> 01:46:57.119
displeased with you. Therefore, this is what's fixing to happen. Right.

1625
01:46:57.159 --> 01:47:00.560
The Book of Enoch really gets deep into it. Okay, Well,

1626
01:47:00.560 --> 01:47:03.720
those giants have always been said of those giants that

1627
01:47:03.800 --> 01:47:09.399
they're red headed. Okay, they've always been known to be redheaded. Now,

1628
01:47:09.439 --> 01:47:13.279
think about the natives that are from Arizona that had

1629
01:47:13.399 --> 01:47:19.720
battles with red headed giants to take over that land

1630
01:47:19.760 --> 01:47:22.359
or Nevada where I know it's out in that country

1631
01:47:22.479 --> 01:47:24.479
and I've been out there, beautiful country by the way,

1632
01:47:26.760 --> 01:47:30.840
and then they found the bones of those beings of

1633
01:47:30.880 --> 01:47:33.720
those giants were the natives. So here's the deal. This

1634
01:47:33.800 --> 01:47:35.520
is what's funny. You know. People say, well, you can't

1635
01:47:35.520 --> 01:47:41.000
really believe native stories. Oh really, the natives for years,

1636
01:47:42.199 --> 01:47:44.840
the natives for years. Well they all say, well, it's

1637
01:47:44.880 --> 01:47:49.039
all legend, it's all here. Say well, okay, natives never

1638
01:47:49.079 --> 01:47:52.000
wrote things down. They told it to their children in

1639
01:47:52.079 --> 01:47:55.720
such a way that was so dynamic that it's still

1640
01:47:55.760 --> 01:48:04.319
remembered a thousand years later. Right, So I believe that

1641
01:48:04.359 --> 01:48:06.840
as much as I believe written word, because written word

1642
01:48:06.880 --> 01:48:10.760
had to come from someone's mind. It didn't show up

1643
01:48:12.319 --> 01:48:15.079
unless you talk about Jesus. It is a word. But

1644
01:48:16.720 --> 01:48:21.920
so anyway, one of the things that those creatures were

1645
01:48:22.520 --> 01:48:27.199
known for doing, the Giants of old was not only

1646
01:48:28.039 --> 01:48:33.399
getting women from camps and capturing them and even taking children,

1647
01:48:35.399 --> 01:48:39.079
eating some and breeding was some but one of the

1648
01:48:39.119 --> 01:48:43.239
other reasons that God was so furious as they were

1649
01:48:43.279 --> 01:48:48.199
also breeding with animals. Okay, most people have probably never

1650
01:48:48.239 --> 01:48:49.960
heard that, And I just went off the deep end

1651
01:48:49.960 --> 01:48:54.159
for some people. And so how far a stretches it

1652
01:48:54.239 --> 01:48:59.880
to say, because if you look back on the hominid record, Okay,

1653
01:49:00.359 --> 01:49:06.920
how many different hominids has there been? If you look

1654
01:49:07.000 --> 01:49:12.640
back there there are known six or eight different subspecies

1655
01:49:12.680 --> 01:49:16.279
of human Over I don't know. I'm not into the

1656
01:49:16.319 --> 01:49:18.479
millions of years saying. I'm more in the line with

1657
01:49:18.560 --> 01:49:22.520
the Bible. Over thousands of years, there's been different subspecies

1658
01:49:22.560 --> 01:49:26.520
of humans. It's proven they found their skulls. So there's

1659
01:49:26.560 --> 01:49:30.359
a little bitty three foot four foot, then there's big

1660
01:49:30.399 --> 01:49:38.760
big uh. There's a fossil record of different subspecies. Okay.

1661
01:49:39.640 --> 01:49:42.520
One of the reasons in if I'm not mistaken in

1662
01:49:42.560 --> 01:49:44.840
the Book of Being not could be wrong. But the

1663
01:49:44.960 --> 01:49:49.960
giants also they were basically they took whatever they wanted,

1664
01:49:50.319 --> 01:49:53.800
they ate whatever they wanted, they did whatever they wanted.

1665
01:49:54.680 --> 01:50:03.520
So over time did their offspring past flood? Because if

1666
01:50:03.560 --> 01:50:08.800
you read the Bible thoroughly, didn't David kill a giant?

1667
01:50:09.920 --> 01:50:11.520
To Philistine? Oh?

1668
01:50:11.560 --> 01:50:13.199
Absolutely, yeah, wasn't.

1669
01:50:13.760 --> 01:50:19.840
Wasn't that past the flood? There was past Noah's day,

1670
01:50:20.119 --> 01:50:23.680
way passed Noah's day, and David killed a giant. When

1671
01:50:24.640 --> 01:50:29.760
the Israelites took the land two thousand years ago, the

1672
01:50:29.880 --> 01:50:37.680
reports from Moses sent out twelve spies or Aaron sent

1673
01:50:37.680 --> 01:50:41.239
out twelve spies. Ten of them come back. Said, there's

1674
01:50:41.319 --> 01:50:43.880
no way we can take that. There's giants in that land.

1675
01:50:43.920 --> 01:50:48.560
We look like grasshoppers compared to them. Think about that.

1676
01:50:49.159 --> 01:50:54.680
So how big were they? So? In other words, even

1677
01:50:54.800 --> 01:51:00.960
though the flood denned out all of that dramatically, there

1678
01:51:00.960 --> 01:51:05.840
were still giants in the land after the days of Noah.

1679
01:51:06.359 --> 01:51:10.359
Oh yeah, it's absolutely multiple.

1680
01:51:11.239 --> 01:51:16.239
Well, they're red headed. They're red headed. They do what

1681
01:51:16.279 --> 01:51:19.880
they want, when they want, how they want. Think about

1682
01:51:19.920 --> 01:51:24.000
the natives in Arizona, Nevada that had to chase them

1683
01:51:24.000 --> 01:51:28.560
into a cave after being killed and slaughtered. A bunch

1684
01:51:28.600 --> 01:51:31.399
of natives got together and chased them into a cave.

1685
01:51:31.960 --> 01:51:36.119
The chief ordered that that big cave in Nevada. You

1686
01:51:36.119 --> 01:51:37.960
can go look at the cave to this day and

1687
01:51:38.000 --> 01:51:40.520
there's still burn marks in there. By the way, the

1688
01:51:40.640 --> 01:51:45.520
chief ordered the people to pile brush on that cave

1689
01:51:45.560 --> 01:51:50.159
and they burn them. They smoked them and kill them.

1690
01:51:50.439 --> 01:51:53.680
We blocked cave. Yeah, yeah, and so it dude, I mean,

1691
01:51:53.720 --> 01:51:57.520
you start putting all these puzzle pieces together. Man, there's

1692
01:51:57.560 --> 01:52:00.279
so much more to this world that we don't know.

1693
01:52:00.840 --> 01:52:04.159
Quite frankly, because a long time ago, our government decided

1694
01:52:04.199 --> 01:52:06.800
we didn't need to know. Although if you go back

1695
01:52:06.840 --> 01:52:11.840
far enough, Abraham Lincoln asked if there were still giants

1696
01:52:11.920 --> 01:52:18.600
in the land. It's in his memoir. Diodore Roosevelt has

1697
01:52:18.720 --> 01:52:22.399
an account of the Bigfoot by Washington. It's in his memoir.

1698
01:52:23.520 --> 01:52:28.439
So that was before they, you know, whoever decided to

1699
01:52:28.600 --> 01:52:30.399
take all of this away and nobody needs to know

1700
01:52:30.439 --> 01:52:33.680
about it. All of that stuff is back there if

1701
01:52:33.680 --> 01:52:39.399
you go back there, and Big Barner so dude, to me,

1702
01:52:39.840 --> 01:52:44.399
it's very connected to the natives. The natives, some people say,

1703
01:52:44.399 --> 01:52:47.840
at one time lived with them in certain areas, they

1704
01:52:48.000 --> 01:52:51.640
worked with them in certain areas, but in other areas,

1705
01:52:51.680 --> 01:52:54.920
the beings, the creatures, whatever you want to call them,

1706
01:52:55.560 --> 01:53:02.319
were much more hostile, and they couldn't. I don't know

1707
01:53:02.319 --> 01:53:05.239
if that's gemographical. I don't. I just don't know. I

1708
01:53:05.239 --> 01:53:07.119
don't know how to describe that, because I know in

1709
01:53:07.239 --> 01:53:10.239
certain areas up in Washington and in that area, there's

1710
01:53:10.279 --> 01:53:14.720
people that have had very deep contact with them and

1711
01:53:16.039 --> 01:53:18.079
live to talk about it. It's just part of their

1712
01:53:18.600 --> 01:53:22.000
their way of life. But if you go to Alaska,

1713
01:53:22.920 --> 01:53:26.079
the same thing that happened in Laflora county happened in Alaska.

1714
01:53:26.199 --> 01:53:34.560
The exact same thing you talk port Lock, port Lock, Yes,

1715
01:53:34.760 --> 01:53:37.520
the exact same thing that happened in lafora county happened

1716
01:53:37.560 --> 01:53:40.079
in port Lock. And there and the natives up there,

1717
01:53:41.079 --> 01:53:44.720
the Alaskans up there, still talk about it to this day.

1718
01:53:44.760 --> 01:53:47.439
That happened what in the thirties, forties, fifties somewhere there.

1719
01:53:47.640 --> 01:53:50.960
Yeah, it's quite a while ago, but it is so.

1720
01:53:51.239 --> 01:53:54.199
But anyways, it's very interesting.

1721
01:53:54.319 --> 01:53:57.239
Why do you start to connect things together like this?

1722
01:53:57.439 --> 01:54:01.000
For sure? Oh, it is so so here you know.

1723
01:54:01.079 --> 01:54:03.880
Earlier in this I told you to maybe maybe get

1724
01:54:03.920 --> 01:54:08.199
a chart. How many people have made of DNA that

1725
01:54:08.399 --> 01:54:10.239
deal with them, and I know some that deal with

1726
01:54:10.279 --> 01:54:15.159
them don't. How many people are spiritually connected in more

1727
01:54:15.199 --> 01:54:21.600
than one way, how many people that have had undeniable

1728
01:54:25.199 --> 01:54:32.680
paranormal things happen. All of that lines up, All of

1729
01:54:32.720 --> 01:54:39.800
it checks box after box after box after box. And

1730
01:54:39.960 --> 01:54:44.439
I think also that these things are so much more

1731
01:54:44.479 --> 01:54:49.279
intelligent than just an animal, right, Honestly, I think that

1732
01:54:49.359 --> 01:54:52.159
we don't know the intelligence level of animals. Right. I've

1733
01:54:52.159 --> 01:54:54.960
got dogs that I've got a dog that's learned how

1734
01:54:54.960 --> 01:54:59.600
to open a door, that should animals are so much

1735
01:54:59.640 --> 01:55:04.039
smart and deserve so much more respect than we give them.

1736
01:55:04.840 --> 01:55:07.000
And I'm a hunter and a fisherman, so you know,

1737
01:55:07.079 --> 01:55:11.359
I'm a very weird person, I guess, but I've learned

1738
01:55:11.359 --> 01:55:14.840
of noth in life to know to respect things. And also,

1739
01:55:14.920 --> 01:55:17.399
I'll tell you this if nobody hears anything else from this,

1740
01:55:17.840 --> 01:55:20.960
if you ever encounter one and you don't know what

1741
01:55:21.000 --> 01:55:25.600
to do, you ask Jesus for help. If you're scared

1742
01:55:25.640 --> 01:55:29.960
to death that something is going to do something to

1743
01:55:30.000 --> 01:55:31.960
you that you don't want done, you say the name

1744
01:55:32.000 --> 01:55:34.479
of Jesus, get away from me, and it has to flee.

1745
01:55:35.640 --> 01:55:40.199
And by the way, I think that's connected too. So

1746
01:55:40.760 --> 01:55:44.560
I think that there's so much more to this world

1747
01:55:45.520 --> 01:55:50.279
that we don't understand. I would love to understand more.

1748
01:55:50.399 --> 01:55:53.279
When I get to heaven, I will So I've got

1749
01:55:53.319 --> 01:55:54.720
a lot of questions.

1750
01:55:55.800 --> 01:56:01.239
Absolutely absolutely, Oh man, what a what an interesting conversation

1751
01:56:01.399 --> 01:56:03.640
and a lot of stuff I didn't know we would

1752
01:56:03.640 --> 01:56:08.439
get there, but uh, it's very very cool. And uh, Steve,

1753
01:56:08.600 --> 01:56:11.279
just just thank you for for chatting and hanging out.

1754
01:56:11.319 --> 01:56:15.079
And if people have also been having issues in the

1755
01:56:15.119 --> 01:56:18.560
same areas that you mentioned, definitely feel free to reach

1756
01:56:18.600 --> 01:56:21.199
out or put those in the comments for sure.

1757
01:56:22.079 --> 01:56:26.880
Yeah, yeah, I will. I mean, I'm no researcher by

1758
01:56:26.880 --> 01:56:30.000
any means, but I'm not against looking into it deeper.

1759
01:56:30.359 --> 01:56:34.800
I gotta be honest with Jeremy. I I have gotten

1760
01:56:34.920 --> 01:56:40.640
off my boat and went up into that point, which

1761
01:56:40.720 --> 01:56:44.039
is it's it's on the public land because you can

1762
01:56:44.159 --> 01:56:46.520
camp on it, but there are people that homes homes

1763
01:56:46.560 --> 01:56:48.560
way back behind it. So I'm not going to journey

1764
01:56:48.600 --> 01:56:51.800
deep into it. But quite frankly, I've been too scared

1765
01:56:51.840 --> 01:56:54.960
to journey deep into it, right, So but I'm gonna

1766
01:56:55.479 --> 01:56:58.800
I'm going to ease up in there and just see

1767
01:56:58.800 --> 01:57:01.199
what I see. See if I tree breaks, because I

1768
01:57:01.840 --> 01:57:06.760
expect to see things now, footprints. Our land gets very

1769
01:57:06.840 --> 01:57:09.840
hard around here when we've been in a drought for

1770
01:57:09.880 --> 01:57:13.039
a while, so those are coming and go. I mean,

1771
01:57:13.399 --> 01:57:15.439
you know, if you get you just have to be

1772
01:57:15.520 --> 01:57:19.439
lucky to get one. But tree breaks and things like that,

1773
01:57:19.520 --> 01:57:22.079
I almost expect to see it, I really do. So

1774
01:57:22.199 --> 01:57:25.520
if I see those things, I'd be glad to report it. Uh.

1775
01:57:25.600 --> 01:57:28.720
And I'm on Facebook. If someone wants to look me

1776
01:57:28.800 --> 01:57:33.119
up and bother me whatsoever. Uh, you know, just just

1777
01:57:33.279 --> 01:57:36.920
be be kind right, all you got.

1778
01:57:36.720 --> 01:57:43.720
To do just yea, but right, man, keep me in

1779
01:57:43.760 --> 01:57:46.439
the loop with if you find anything, if you do

1780
01:57:46.840 --> 01:57:49.479
take a closer look. But man, Steve, it's been fun

1781
01:57:49.560 --> 01:57:52.159
chatting with you. And thanks again.

1782
01:57:52.199 --> 01:57:56.079
Man, Oh dude, you're You're more than welcome. I love

1783
01:57:56.159 --> 01:58:00.439
doing it. Uh, it's uh, it's it's fantastic to know

1784
01:58:02.119 --> 01:58:07.920
that there are good people with good hearts that look

1785
01:58:08.000 --> 01:58:12.239
at these things inquisitively and just want to know more. Right,

1786
01:58:13.039 --> 01:58:17.880
And I've seen I haven't actually did a handshake and met,

1787
01:58:17.880 --> 01:58:20.600
but I've seen so much of that on your channel

1788
01:58:21.840 --> 01:58:24.720
that it's just very encouraging, man, So keep up what

1789
01:58:24.760 --> 01:58:25.640
you doing for sure.

1790
01:58:26.279 --> 01:58:29.359
Well, thank you, sir. Yeah, and thanks for chatting today, Steve.

1791
01:58:30.880 --> 01:58:31.760
Yes, sir, you bet.

1792
01:58:36.720 --> 01:58:39.479
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1811
01:59:43.479 --> 01:59:44.239
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1812
02:00:31.560 --> 02:00:33.039
Her and I can get on here. We can tell

1813
02:00:33.039 --> 02:00:36.359
our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out there listening that's

1814
02:00:36.399 --> 02:00:39.319
too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give

1815
02:00:39.359 --> 02:00:42.079
them the courage to come out. And I feel so

1816
02:00:42.239 --> 02:00:45.319
bad about it. Who cares what anybody thinks. I know

1817
02:00:45.399 --> 02:00:48.600
what I saw, I know what's out there. That's all

1818
02:00:48.640 --> 02:01:08.760
I care about. Please let people know, Please let them know.

1819
02:01:08.920 --> 02:01:11.640
If you've ever seen one of these things, you need

1820
02:01:11.760 --> 02:01:15.399
to tell because if you don't, then shame on you.

1821
02:01:15.399 --> 02:01:28.399
You have shame on you.