Sept. 16, 2024

Bigfoot was at Cultus Lake!

Josh from Oregon is back and he shares remarkable Sasquatch encounters from the Pacific Northwest that you won’t want to miss. Dive into detailed stories ranging from mysterious sightings at Oakridge’s Sasquatch Summer Fest to mind-blowing...

Apple Podcasts podcast player badge
Spotify podcast player badge
Castro podcast player badge
RSS Feed podcast player badge
Apple Podcasts podcast player icon Spotify podcast player icon Castro podcast player icon RSS Feed podcast player icon
Season 1

Josh from Oregon is back and he shares remarkable Sasquatch encounters from the Pacific Northwest that you won’t want to miss. Dive into detailed stories ranging from mysterious sightings at Oakridge’s Sasquatch Summer Fest to mind-blowing interactions in Westland and Cultis Lake. Josh vividly recounts eerie experiences with red light beams, intense sensations of heat, and a massive male Bigfoot taking down a coyote pack. Discover firsthand accounts of Bigfoot communication, peculiar sounds, and encounters with juvenile Bigfoots. This episode is packed with captivating tales that will keep Bigfoot enthusiasts on the edge of their seats.

Share your Bigfoot encounter with me here: bigfootsociety@gmail.com

Want to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety
(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)

🔴 Subscribe to hear more Bigfoot encounters: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1

Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38

Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=shared

Recommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat

✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety

✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/join

Let’s connect:

Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/
Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_society
Tiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.society

Affiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.

My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XY

Put some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsociety

Pick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdt

Send mail here:

Bigfoot Society
125 E 1st St. #233
Earlham, IA 50072

Send business inquiries to: bigfootsociety@gmail.com

WEBVTT

1
00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:02.759
Welcome to Big for Society. If you have Bigfoot activity

2
00:00:02.839 --> 00:00:06.040
to report from the same areas discussed in this episode,

3
00:00:06.120 --> 00:00:09.640
please reach out to me directly after this episode. And

4
00:00:09.679 --> 00:00:12.160
if you'd like to be on the podcast to discuss

5
00:00:12.279 --> 00:00:15.320
a personal Bigfoot encounter, please reach out to me directly

6
00:00:15.400 --> 00:00:18.239
at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. Do you wish

7
00:00:18.280 --> 00:00:20.239
there was more Big For Society to listen to you

8
00:00:20.320 --> 00:00:22.760
every week? Well there is now. If you become a

9
00:00:22.760 --> 00:00:26.199
supporting member over at Patreon, you get a special members

10
00:00:26.239 --> 00:00:31.079
only episode every single week on Wednesdays, and sometimes even

11
00:00:31.359 --> 00:00:34.359
more episodes. Head on over to Patreon dot com. Forward

12
00:00:34.399 --> 00:00:37.200
slash the Big for Society and now let's get on

13
00:00:37.280 --> 00:00:40.640
with the show. All right, Big Fort Society, You've got

14
00:00:40.679 --> 00:00:43.920
the privilege of talking to a good friend, Josh again.

15
00:00:44.679 --> 00:00:48.560
You may recognize Josh's voice. He's been on a few episodes,

16
00:00:49.119 --> 00:00:55.159
and actually it'll be a total of three after it

17
00:00:55.240 --> 00:00:57.600
comes out, so he's been on. There is a Hatcher

18
00:00:57.640 --> 00:01:03.719
Pass Alaska episode I believe Westland, Oregon, and Josh was

19
00:01:03.719 --> 00:01:09.239
in attendance at the Sasquat Summerfest festival in Oakridge, Oregon

20
00:01:10.040 --> 00:01:12.560
this summer, so we were able to hang out at

21
00:01:12.599 --> 00:01:15.560
the booth there, and I was able to do a

22
00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:20.719
mini interview with him that was in a compilation episode

23
00:01:20.719 --> 00:01:24.840
that came out on August twenty ninth of this year. So, Josh,

24
00:01:24.879 --> 00:01:27.359
it's pleasure to talk to you again. How's it going

25
00:01:27.439 --> 00:01:27.760
up there?

26
00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:31.519
Oh, it's it's great. It's it's great. It's like a

27
00:01:31.519 --> 00:01:35.840
lot of just a lot of activity going on. It's

28
00:01:35.879 --> 00:01:40.920
been like you know, ups and downs and all that stuff,

29
00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:46.280
but it's been pretty good. Everything's really mellow here. Yeah,

30
00:01:46.719 --> 00:01:48.519
so far, so good.

31
00:01:48.799 --> 00:01:52.040
Absolutely, you're out and you're out in Oregon still right.

32
00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:58.079
Yeah, I'm still in Oregon, out in West Lynne. Lots

33
00:01:58.079 --> 00:02:00.799
of I mean, there's just there's a lot of activity.

34
00:02:00.959 --> 00:02:05.480
I'm just in general, h and I got so much

35
00:02:05.519 --> 00:02:09.240
to cover. I've made a bull light list.

36
00:02:09.800 --> 00:02:12.680
But before you get to it, did I tell you

37
00:02:12.680 --> 00:02:14.840
about the person who came up to my booth when

38
00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:17.960
you weren't around. I don't know if I got to

39
00:02:17.960 --> 00:02:20.879
tell you this. So this one lady came up and

40
00:02:20.919 --> 00:02:25.000
she was like talking about your West lynn episode and

41
00:02:25.039 --> 00:02:28.000
she's like, you know, it's the weirdest thing because I've

42
00:02:28.039 --> 00:02:31.680
actually had stuff happen to me up and I think

43
00:02:31.840 --> 00:02:35.319
was north Portland where she's like, it's an area people

44
00:02:35.319 --> 00:02:38.560
wouldn't think, but you know, I had stuff happen in

45
00:02:38.599 --> 00:02:41.479
that area, so I get what he's talking about. You know,

46
00:02:41.879 --> 00:02:44.919
places where you might not think it's still going on.

47
00:02:45.039 --> 00:02:47.159
So I thought that was kind of cool. But you

48
00:02:47.159 --> 00:02:48.719
you weren't around at the time, so.

49
00:02:49.840 --> 00:02:52.240
Oh yeah, but yeah, but that yeah, that's the thing.

50
00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:55.520
It's like the whole this whole area. It's it's like

51
00:02:55.560 --> 00:03:00.000
a like an interlocking like corridors of like forested area

52
00:03:00.199 --> 00:03:03.879
is and like, you know, it seems like they're they're

53
00:03:03.960 --> 00:03:08.879
highly like just adaptable to like whatever environment and they

54
00:03:08.960 --> 00:03:13.479
just they'll still be able to find food where they

55
00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:16.599
need to. And some of them, some of the young

56
00:03:16.639 --> 00:03:19.240
will would grow up and they only know that kind

57
00:03:19.240 --> 00:03:23.039
of food. And what I've learned is like I've been

58
00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:26.759
leaving nuts out for them recently, just just to sort

59
00:03:26.800 --> 00:03:29.599
of smooth things over and all that. But uh, I

60
00:03:29.680 --> 00:03:32.280
put out a fish and they were like they didn't

61
00:03:32.280 --> 00:03:34.639
want to eat it, and I buried it in the

62
00:03:34.680 --> 00:03:37.759
garden and after it rotted for a few days and

63
00:03:37.800 --> 00:03:39.560
that's when they dug it up and started eating do

64
00:03:39.599 --> 00:03:43.680
on it and like, but they didn't want to touch fish.

65
00:03:44.159 --> 00:03:48.599
But I know in Alaska they eat fish, and there's

66
00:03:48.639 --> 00:03:51.199
there's there's videos out there where they're like in the

67
00:03:51.240 --> 00:03:56.759
creeks looking for fish or whatever. But it's it's interesting

68
00:03:57.439 --> 00:04:01.800
that like you talk to people like what's the name

69
00:04:01.840 --> 00:04:13.000
of that that orchard, it's uh Woodburn, but surewood an

70
00:04:13.080 --> 00:04:17.199
orchard and Sherwood you pick orchard, And like I went

71
00:04:17.240 --> 00:04:21.519
out there and they had clearly had like a family

72
00:04:21.560 --> 00:04:24.439
of sasquatch on the property. And you just chat them

73
00:04:24.480 --> 00:04:27.120
up and you find out that like a lot of

74
00:04:27.279 --> 00:04:29.000
a lot of the ranchers and a lot of like

75
00:04:29.079 --> 00:04:34.639
the people around here that there are encounters and it

76
00:04:34.639 --> 00:04:38.040
it's it's interesting. It's like like some people know, a

77
00:04:38.040 --> 00:04:42.800
lot of people don't still, but it's the only way

78
00:04:42.839 --> 00:04:45.839
to start to get the conversation rolling is just you

79
00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:48.240
got to talk about it got to bang the drum.

80
00:04:48.720 --> 00:04:52.920
So so you're saying that you went to that area

81
00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:56.079
and you you were talking to the people that own

82
00:04:56.160 --> 00:04:59.759
that orchard, and they were like, yeah, we got them

83
00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:00.560
around here.

84
00:05:01.639 --> 00:05:05.439
Yeah, they they had a family of sasquatch move on

85
00:05:05.480 --> 00:05:09.759
to their property, and like they alluded to like they

86
00:05:09.800 --> 00:05:13.600
would just come and eat the apples and whatnot every

87
00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:17.480
night and they just do their thing, and they'd learned

88
00:05:17.480 --> 00:05:21.439
to like sort of live with them. And they had

89
00:05:21.519 --> 00:05:25.079
like one the orchard was well marri cured, we all

90
00:05:25.160 --> 00:05:27.800
taken care of. You could tell it's clean. They wanted

91
00:05:27.800 --> 00:05:29.680
it to look good for customers. But then there was

92
00:05:29.720 --> 00:05:33.399
this patch where it was like weedy, and like they

93
00:05:33.560 --> 00:05:35.720
like took a couple of passes with the with the

94
00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:38.399
lawnmower and then they want to do anymore, and all

95
00:05:38.439 --> 00:05:41.279
the trees were scraggly and like the bark was peeled,

96
00:05:41.319 --> 00:05:44.079
and like you could hear the whoops coming from them,

97
00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:48.839
like the rocks clacking, and like like the activity going

98
00:05:48.879 --> 00:05:52.120
on that you would hear with a big foot. And

99
00:05:52.199 --> 00:05:55.120
like this is just me hanging out just looking at

100
00:05:55.120 --> 00:05:58.079
the apples we just picked in the in the in

101
00:05:58.240 --> 00:06:00.519
just their little parking area, and I'm like looking over

102
00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:03.439
and I just I just like chatted them up. It's

103
00:06:03.480 --> 00:06:06.560
like made a joke about keeping the big foot off

104
00:06:06.680 --> 00:06:10.639
my apple tree. And then like it just snowballed from there,

105
00:06:10.759 --> 00:06:13.560
and like you just sort of segue into it. But

106
00:06:13.839 --> 00:06:18.560
like according to her, people in the know say that

107
00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:22.000
they've been like coming in for like the past, like

108
00:06:22.040 --> 00:06:25.639
twenty years like into the closer encroaching in on the

109
00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:29.759
cities more. But you know, who knows, maybe they've just

110
00:06:29.879 --> 00:06:32.560
noticed it, but maybe they've always just been I assume

111
00:06:32.560 --> 00:06:36.519
they've always just been here, and like the all the

112
00:06:36.560 --> 00:06:41.000
developments that have happened have like encroached on their territory

113
00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:46.600
because it just seems like they're just sort of comfortable

114
00:06:46.600 --> 00:06:49.680
where they're at and like you can, you wouldn't think

115
00:06:49.879 --> 00:06:52.000
they need that much, but like all they really need

116
00:06:52.120 --> 00:06:56.079
is like a good bush and some water and some

117
00:06:56.399 --> 00:06:58.720
like bugs or nuts or something, and they're they're set.

118
00:06:59.600 --> 00:07:03.199
And yeah, they just come out through the big hunting

119
00:07:03.240 --> 00:07:06.480
at night, but like all they really need is water, water,

120
00:07:06.600 --> 00:07:10.480
and like a spot to hide, and there's a lot

121
00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:15.000
of it, you know. So it is interesting.

122
00:07:15.399 --> 00:07:20.519
Is that pretty close to West Lynne, the same area.

123
00:07:21.639 --> 00:07:25.920
Same same general area. I would say it's like headed

124
00:07:26.160 --> 00:07:30.360
more towards the coast, but it's like well like like

125
00:07:30.480 --> 00:07:33.040
thirty minutes away, like a thirty minute drive or so,

126
00:07:34.199 --> 00:07:37.079
like it's still part of the same sort of sprawl,

127
00:07:37.319 --> 00:07:40.319
like interlocking sprawl. So it's like it's just on the

128
00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:43.399
other side of like Tigered I think, just south of tigered,

129
00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:48.040
so not not too far at all, Like I can

130
00:07:48.560 --> 00:07:56.240
pick side streets and get there. But they've had them

131
00:07:56.240 --> 00:07:58.319
on the on the property according to them, for like

132
00:07:58.399 --> 00:08:00.360
eleven at the time, it was like a le years

133
00:08:00.319 --> 00:08:04.360
of probably like thirteen fourteen years now with them dealing

134
00:08:04.399 --> 00:08:09.959
with the just this guy, the sasquatchron just sort of

135
00:08:10.560 --> 00:08:13.279
coexisting with them.

136
00:08:13.319 --> 00:08:18.399
That is really really interesting, Josh, I might have to

137
00:08:18.439 --> 00:08:22.240
look into that. Hmmm, it's just crazy.

138
00:08:22.319 --> 00:08:24.319
I mean it would be worthwhile, yeah, I mean, it

139
00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:27.120
would worth be worthwhile to go go go pick some

140
00:08:27.240 --> 00:08:30.920
apples and like as like your cover, but then like

141
00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:34.840
check out the right the bigfoot right there. Oh hey,

142
00:08:34.879 --> 00:08:37.000
I'm just gonna go take a leak or something.

143
00:08:38.840 --> 00:08:41.200
And it's kind of like you know, like two birds

144
00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:43.679
of one stone. You get you get a great great

145
00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:45.720
bunch of apples to make a pie or whatever, and

146
00:08:45.759 --> 00:08:49.919
then you get some some bigfoot interaction as well, which

147
00:08:49.960 --> 00:08:53.159
is I mean, that's that's solid id, that's a solid

148
00:08:53.240 --> 00:08:53.879
day for me.

149
00:08:54.080 --> 00:08:56.759
So I mean that you get a good thing, you know,

150
00:08:56.919 --> 00:08:59.679
the Oregon Sasquatch Tour. You get like the best like

151
00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:03.519
this orchard and that orchard and like this this place

152
00:09:03.559 --> 00:09:07.919
and that park, you know, be a tour guide.

153
00:09:08.840 --> 00:09:14.039
After after spending some time out in Oakridge, it's it's

154
00:09:14.080 --> 00:09:18.399
stories like this, like you know, it's like yeah, no question.

155
00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:22.840
I mean after experiencing stuff in that in Oakridge, whereas

156
00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:27.360
like there's stuff going on so close to the town,

157
00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:32.320
it's like, yeah, that the Pacific Northwest is crazy. I

158
00:09:32.399 --> 00:09:35.120
mean like any Bigfoot person knows that. But once you

159
00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:38.440
start experiencing it for yourself out there, it's like, yeah,

160
00:09:38.480 --> 00:09:41.279
it's a whole different, whole different story. And you you

161
00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:46.799
had you had some some other stuff happened out there

162
00:09:47.519 --> 00:09:50.919
in Oakridge that you didn't get to share on the

163
00:09:51.440 --> 00:09:55.720
episode that that came out about uh maybe about a

164
00:09:55.759 --> 00:09:56.639
month or so ago.

165
00:09:57.919 --> 00:10:05.600
Oh yeah, I should just jump into that. The the essentially,

166
00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:11.799
I had talked to Dwayne, Uh he was on previous

167
00:10:12.200 --> 00:10:15.240
episodes of the Oakridge stuff, and like he was at

168
00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:16.399
the festival.

169
00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:18.399
And I got to chat him up and like just

170
00:10:18.440 --> 00:10:23.240
listening to his stories and like him describing like he

171
00:10:23.440 --> 00:10:27.159
was looking at Oakridge, like the ridge line that was

172
00:10:27.200 --> 00:10:30.159
facing across the river from the farc like I was

173
00:10:30.200 --> 00:10:34.320
looking at it, Like it was like he like he

174
00:10:34.840 --> 00:10:38.120
could hear hear them like swinging through the trees and

175
00:10:38.200 --> 00:10:41.960
like moving around and like just like I could, and

176
00:10:41.960 --> 00:10:43.879
then when as the sun was setting, you could you

177
00:10:43.879 --> 00:10:47.039
could really like see the twinkling eyes of the juveniles

178
00:10:47.080 --> 00:10:49.720
and like the the adults trying to just sort of

179
00:10:49.759 --> 00:10:52.960
like herd them in as like the as like the

180
00:10:53.000 --> 00:10:56.799
wildfires are are just raging, and what Dwayne said is

181
00:10:56.840 --> 00:11:00.240
like they're they're gonna be really uh geeked up because

182
00:11:00.279 --> 00:11:03.639
of the all the smoke and the fire, so they're

183
00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:07.200
going to be really active and really aggravated, so be

184
00:11:07.279 --> 00:11:09.919
careful and all that stuff. And I was like, yeah, yeah, sure, sure,

185
00:11:10.679 --> 00:11:14.039
but like I could you could see it like it's

186
00:11:14.200 --> 00:11:17.000
in Like it was like so apparent to most of

187
00:11:17.000 --> 00:11:20.080
the people there, they're, oh yeah, Bigfoot. Like it became

188
00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:24.039
like super casual, like instead of like this was an

189
00:11:24.039 --> 00:11:26.639
incredible moment where you should be just like taking it

190
00:11:26.679 --> 00:11:30.879
in everything, like yeah Bigfoot, you know, just like super

191
00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:34.240
almost taking it for granted, like what we were experiencing.

192
00:11:34.919 --> 00:11:41.320
But the what Duene had told me, he was like

193
00:11:42.200 --> 00:11:44.600
at that park, he had had a lot of runnings

194
00:11:44.720 --> 00:11:49.679
just at the little camp around there, and he says

195
00:11:49.679 --> 00:11:51.799
that there was a male on one side. So I

196
00:11:51.879 --> 00:11:58.919
go and uh where my actually where my tent was

197
00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:02.799
like essentially set up. But I go down there and

198
00:12:02.960 --> 00:12:06.080
I decided to just there's like a little bridge. I

199
00:12:06.120 --> 00:12:09.440
crossed the bridge and I was like once I once

200
00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:12.240
I entered the woods, my ears are like on, I'm

201
00:12:12.240 --> 00:12:15.519
like listening, and I'm like I got my feethers out,

202
00:12:15.559 --> 00:12:19.720
I got my peripheral vision. It's like heightened awareness. So

203
00:12:20.440 --> 00:12:24.399
I just like slowly, quietly like walk up to to

204
00:12:24.399 --> 00:12:28.559
to the forest the park and just start walking in.

205
00:12:28.600 --> 00:12:30.440
I didn't get more than like twenty feet before I

206
00:12:30.480 --> 00:12:36.519
heard like about three juveniles starting to like follow me

207
00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:40.480
in like maybe like thirty feet off of the trail.

208
00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:44.200
So I knew that that was the spot. So then

209
00:12:44.240 --> 00:12:48.320
I saw that there was a rock out cropping that

210
00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:50.879
was like just next to the bridge. So my backtracked

211
00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:53.360
went to the outcropping. I just stood out there on

212
00:12:53.399 --> 00:12:57.360
that rock out cropping and I just stood there and

213
00:12:57.440 --> 00:12:59.720
looked in their general direction. And then I heard another

214
00:12:59.720 --> 00:13:02.440
one about it was like swinging the trees up on

215
00:13:02.480 --> 00:13:04.679
the tree line. It was knocking rock down the cliff,

216
00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:07.960
and I looked up at it and like you could

217
00:13:07.960 --> 00:13:09.879
just I could hear this sound. I couldn't see them,

218
00:13:09.919 --> 00:13:11.799
but I could hear them and they're moving in close

219
00:13:12.399 --> 00:13:13.960
and just let them see me. And then I gave

220
00:13:14.039 --> 00:13:17.159
little you know, I turned just so they could see

221
00:13:17.159 --> 00:13:18.840
who I was and let them know that I know

222
00:13:18.919 --> 00:13:22.399
about them. And then I was letting them just see me.

223
00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:24.840
And it's I think it's like a courtesy that they

224
00:13:25.360 --> 00:13:28.399
like to do. You just let them see you, and

225
00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:31.440
they'll they'll do the same for you. They might be

226
00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:33.399
from it like a distance or like next to a

227
00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:36.679
tree in a shadow, but they'll let you see them,

228
00:13:36.960 --> 00:13:40.279
like like the Vikings would do. You know, it's probably related,

229
00:13:40.440 --> 00:13:48.360
you never know, But I did that and it was

230
00:13:48.720 --> 00:13:54.080
it was fine, you know. And that night I like passed,

231
00:13:54.200 --> 00:13:57.559
I passed out and all that jazz. I was about

232
00:13:57.559 --> 00:13:59.720
to go to bed and I was in the tent

233
00:14:00.759 --> 00:14:02.440
and I'm like sitting in the tent and I hear

234
00:14:02.679 --> 00:14:07.279
like the big nail come out just just and he

235
00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:10.440
sniffs me, snips my tent. I can hear him. I'm

236
00:14:10.480 --> 00:14:15.000
so like close and like it's just like uncomfortable. I

237
00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:17.440
was like, oh, I don't like this. And like then

238
00:14:17.480 --> 00:14:19.759
I hear him like after he's done sniffing at my tent,

239
00:14:19.919 --> 00:14:22.320
he starts like milling around in the grass looking for

240
00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:25.519
bugs or whatever. And then finally he starts pumping rocks

241
00:14:25.559 --> 00:14:29.279
into the into the creek looking I'm sending for crowdads

242
00:14:29.360 --> 00:14:32.799
or something, and like I was like, okay, I unzip

243
00:14:32.919 --> 00:14:34.759
the tent, and then he just walked to the truck.

244
00:14:34.799 --> 00:14:40.639
I sit in the truck, and like as soon as

245
00:14:40.679 --> 00:14:46.279
I sit down, I'm facing the ridge line, and you

246
00:14:46.320 --> 00:14:48.960
get that, I got that feeling like somebody was watching me,

247
00:14:49.679 --> 00:14:52.759
and so I just like instinctively look as we all

248
00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:55.519
would do in that situation. You do it at the

249
00:14:55.559 --> 00:14:57.840
grocery store or whatever. You just look over at somebody

250
00:14:57.879 --> 00:15:01.759
and they instinctively look at you. I did the same thing,

251
00:15:01.840 --> 00:15:05.080
except this time it was a female and she was

252
00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:07.519
up in the tree and her eyes lit up, and

253
00:15:07.559 --> 00:15:11.120
there was about three little juveniles like hugging this tree.

254
00:15:11.639 --> 00:15:15.120
And so suddenly the guy that knew who they were

255
00:15:15.799 --> 00:15:18.000
and I knew where they were, even though they were cloaked.

256
00:15:18.039 --> 00:15:22.399
I suddenly became a threat. And it was like like

257
00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:25.320
I was trying to cut stir up anything else. I

258
00:15:25.399 --> 00:15:28.679
was just trying to like go to sleep in my truck,

259
00:15:29.039 --> 00:15:32.840
you know, and just have a little like like cut

260
00:15:32.840 --> 00:15:35.039
it off for the night and not causing any trouble,

261
00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:41.840
and like I I stepped in it, so I immediately

262
00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:44.600
like maybe like a couple of seconds, like right then

263
00:15:44.600 --> 00:15:47.200
and there she lights up her eyes and then she

264
00:15:47.879 --> 00:15:51.399
ape swings through the tree line just like her eyes

265
00:15:51.440 --> 00:15:55.279
are just like like at orbs, just like flickering through

266
00:15:55.320 --> 00:15:58.080
the tree line like a straight line she goes or

267
00:15:58.120 --> 00:16:02.519
maybe behind her feet, and then like a couple of

268
00:16:02.519 --> 00:16:06.000
seconds later, the mail is like his eyes are lit

269
00:16:06.080 --> 00:16:09.960
up and he's like darting back towards towards the tent,

270
00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:12.240
and then I lose sight of him.

271
00:16:12.480 --> 00:16:15.799
Big for society, who will be right back after these messages.

272
00:16:31.360 --> 00:16:33.840
And then like he starts messing with my truck that night,

273
00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:38.679
and like they ended up getting the print off of it,

274
00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:42.200
and like it was a crazy night. So the backup

275
00:16:42.240 --> 00:16:46.759
to that was like, wow, they were the next day

276
00:16:46.759 --> 00:16:48.639
while they were trying to get a print off of

277
00:16:48.759 --> 00:16:52.279
my truck, the sun was starting to set and then

278
00:16:52.440 --> 00:16:55.759
like I was starting to see a lot of twinkles

279
00:16:55.840 --> 00:16:58.600
up in the ridgeline from the other parking lot, a

280
00:16:58.639 --> 00:17:05.799
much bigger one, uh, more open like parking area. Uh.

281
00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:10.079
And it's like not just like a couple of prince.

282
00:17:10.119 --> 00:17:13.720
I'm talking like a clean, like seventy five to one

283
00:17:13.759 --> 00:17:17.440
hundred like sets of eyes. And they were like cloaking

284
00:17:17.480 --> 00:17:19.720
in and out. You could see the light as like

285
00:17:19.799 --> 00:17:22.720
they went gray and like had a flash of light

286
00:17:22.799 --> 00:17:26.839
and then just little arms or like swing in and

287
00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:28.599
like climb up into the trees and getting to the

288
00:17:28.599 --> 00:17:34.440
tippy tops of these these uh doug firs, and uh

289
00:17:35.319 --> 00:17:37.079
I guess then there's some of them are ponder roses

290
00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:42.319
or something. But uh, just like a hundred one hundred

291
00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:46.400
little sets of eyes and they're all like clustered up,

292
00:17:46.480 --> 00:17:49.160
so all of a sudden and they're like stop and

293
00:17:49.200 --> 00:17:53.400
like looking at me. Right. So I'm just like on

294
00:17:53.480 --> 00:17:56.119
the side of the parking lot next to like the venue.

295
00:17:56.160 --> 00:18:01.279
Everybody else is inside watching like one of the new

296
00:18:01.319 --> 00:18:07.279
documentaries that one of the researchers had coming up, and

297
00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:11.599
it's just sort of me just like just looking up

298
00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:14.319
at this, is experiencing this. You got a blood red

299
00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:18.799
sun as it's setting, smokes in the air like bright

300
00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:24.640
flashing eyes like twinkling, and like I pull up like

301
00:18:24.640 --> 00:18:29.359
a military you know those military flashlights, those big crazy

302
00:18:29.400 --> 00:18:33.279
bright ones. I flash them right at the top of

303
00:18:33.319 --> 00:18:35.599
the tree line, just to give them a couple of blinks,

304
00:18:35.720 --> 00:18:38.680
just to see what would happen, and they all go black.

305
00:18:38.759 --> 00:18:41.920
They all shut their eyes and they stop. And then

306
00:18:42.039 --> 00:18:46.039
at that moment, I see like like a smoky like

307
00:18:48.359 --> 00:18:51.599
figure like come out of cloak jump from one tree

308
00:18:51.599 --> 00:18:56.799
that was directly behind the stage, overlooking the venue. Apparently

309
00:18:57.160 --> 00:19:01.240
the big male had been up the tree like casing me,

310
00:19:01.400 --> 00:19:05.160
like keeping an eye on me. I'm guessing probably through

311
00:19:05.160 --> 00:19:09.039
the whole event, just like he was like my chaperone,

312
00:19:09.480 --> 00:19:13.039
if you will. But like he hopped to the next tree,

313
00:19:13.200 --> 00:19:16.000
this little maple, and scaled down it, and I could

314
00:19:16.000 --> 00:19:18.079
see him just like his arms and stuff was like

315
00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:20.240
coming in and out of cloak. And then all at

316
00:19:20.240 --> 00:19:26.279
the very top of the fence. Uh, I got to

317
00:19:26.279 --> 00:19:29.200
see his eyes and they were like big black eyes.

318
00:19:29.240 --> 00:19:31.440
But I could still see into the pupils of his

319
00:19:31.519 --> 00:19:38.640
eyes because this coloration of some of the the was

320
00:19:38.799 --> 00:19:42.039
his iris and stuff, and like had like a silvery

321
00:19:42.119 --> 00:19:45.720
little ring just just at the and a part of

322
00:19:45.720 --> 00:19:50.400
the pupil. But uh, he was just like looking at

323
00:19:50.400 --> 00:19:58.880
me directly, and uh, we're both locked eyes, and it

324
00:19:58.960 --> 00:20:02.400
was it was just like just like an intense moment

325
00:20:02.440 --> 00:20:06.400
where I knew i'd like messed up, and so I

326
00:20:06.480 --> 00:20:12.559
was like, okay, just like don't freak out. Just let

327
00:20:12.640 --> 00:20:15.400
him see you. Just look at him. He's letting me

328
00:20:15.480 --> 00:20:20.319
know not to do that again without like causing the seat.

329
00:20:20.440 --> 00:20:23.400
So I'm like, okay, understood, I let you. And then

330
00:20:23.440 --> 00:20:26.640
he like hops down and I could see his like

331
00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:30.079
the figure as he slides down into like the river

332
00:20:30.160 --> 00:20:34.160
bank and starts moving towards like his side of the

333
00:20:34.720 --> 00:20:39.279
river over by my camp. So I'm like, I'm thinking, great,

334
00:20:39.359 --> 00:20:43.880
now I gotta deal with this guy. So towards the

335
00:20:43.960 --> 00:20:45.920
end of the evening, after everybody was like kind of

336
00:20:45.960 --> 00:20:50.559
like bedding down, I hid towards my camp super dark,

337
00:20:51.680 --> 00:20:54.799
and like I decide, I gotta I gotta pack up

338
00:20:54.799 --> 00:20:56.240
all my food and just get it out of the

339
00:20:56.240 --> 00:20:58.960
camp and put it in my truck. And so I

340
00:20:59.039 --> 00:21:03.920
did that, and on my way back, uh, I could

341
00:21:04.039 --> 00:21:07.000
I could tell that he was like right on me,

342
00:21:07.599 --> 00:21:12.880
just right on me. At the embankment, it was super pitch.

343
00:21:13.039 --> 00:21:16.319
I couldn't see the river. It was sort of blacked out,

344
00:21:16.559 --> 00:21:18.799
and you could just feel, you know, you could just

345
00:21:18.799 --> 00:21:21.559
feel when they're there and they're watching, and it was

346
00:21:21.599 --> 00:21:25.119
that moment, and so I just decided to like make

347
00:21:25.160 --> 00:21:29.279
a peace offering, make sure I don't just disappear in

348
00:21:29.279 --> 00:21:32.839
the middle of this festival. So I just pull out

349
00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:36.880
pecans and like a couple of apples, and I just

350
00:21:36.960 --> 00:21:39.599
like just take a big old water pecans and I

351
00:21:39.640 --> 00:21:42.599
thought it down the little trail that where in the

352
00:21:42.680 --> 00:21:47.319
black sort of shadowy spot, and I throw like let

353
00:21:47.319 --> 00:21:50.400
the apples roll down. You hear them roll down, But

354
00:21:50.440 --> 00:21:52.960
then I heard them like hit the dirt, and I

355
00:21:52.960 --> 00:21:56.000
could hear him like just start like snacking on those pecans,

356
00:21:56.039 --> 00:21:59.559
and it was I guess he liked them, because at

357
00:21:59.559 --> 00:22:04.359
that point I ended up. You know, it's like good night,

358
00:22:04.400 --> 00:22:06.960
all right, And I go to the truck and instead

359
00:22:06.960 --> 00:22:13.880
of facing it towards the towards the but where I

360
00:22:13.880 --> 00:22:16.519
was parked before, I parked in the opposite direction, so

361
00:22:16.559 --> 00:22:20.039
I was facing the female with the little kids. I

362
00:22:20.119 --> 00:22:22.559
was just gonna be like facing away, facing the highway,

363
00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:26.000
essentially facing the parking lot, and like just sort of

364
00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:28.480
like cut it off and not get in too much trouble.

365
00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:32.480
And like, because I gave him those nuts, I guess

366
00:22:32.519 --> 00:22:36.079
he he uh decided to just show himself to me

367
00:22:36.799 --> 00:22:40.960
and so like about one one in one thirty in

368
00:22:41.000 --> 00:22:44.839
the morning, I like sort of wake up and I

369
00:22:45.119 --> 00:22:49.279
see him. He just like or actually I don't see him.

370
00:22:49.279 --> 00:22:52.559
I hear him first. At first, I hear it like

371
00:22:52.759 --> 00:22:55.839
what I think is him. It's just a cat. It's

372
00:22:55.880 --> 00:22:58.640
like a straight cat wandering around like a few people

373
00:22:58.680 --> 00:23:04.920
saw it. But this cat was wandering around the area,

374
00:23:05.000 --> 00:23:07.680
and I was like, Okay, I guess he's gone. So

375
00:23:09.279 --> 00:23:19.640
I ended up, uh, I ended up just listening and

376
00:23:19.680 --> 00:23:23.279
I could still hear him sneaking up behind each tree.

377
00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:26.319
So he was opposite side over by Dwayne, actually by

378
00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:30.519
Duyne's like little camp like moving from tree to tree.

379
00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:33.240
And then he slinked up at the bush right in

380
00:23:33.240 --> 00:23:36.759
front of my truck. And then he peeks his head out,

381
00:23:37.079 --> 00:23:39.119
comes out of club just for a second, long enough

382
00:23:39.119 --> 00:23:41.559
for me to see him like squinting at me. And

383
00:23:41.640 --> 00:23:44.559
he goes back on behind the bush and he peeks back.

384
00:23:44.599 --> 00:23:47.039
He did about three times, and I actually got to

385
00:23:47.079 --> 00:23:53.480
see his face, and it was like it pretty clear.

386
00:23:53.640 --> 00:23:55.720
I could I could, I could make out his face.

387
00:23:55.720 --> 00:24:01.240
But the thing is, it's like they look just like

388
00:24:01.359 --> 00:24:03.559
you and me, Like they they're like, look, they look

389
00:24:03.599 --> 00:24:06.519
like normal people. But then they have like features that

390
00:24:06.599 --> 00:24:12.160
are like you know, just the eye sockets are huge, right,

391
00:24:12.839 --> 00:24:15.440
His eyes were like all the other bigfoot I'd seen,

392
00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:18.279
Like the eyes were like kind of protruding a little

393
00:24:18.279 --> 00:24:20.839
bit because there's so big. His were set back in

394
00:24:20.880 --> 00:24:26.559
his head, like recessed in his head, and like like

395
00:24:26.599 --> 00:24:30.000
all of his features like like a like a typical

396
00:24:30.119 --> 00:24:34.680
like a you know, like a I want to say,

397
00:24:34.680 --> 00:24:41.519
like an Irish looking guy. But his eyes were huge

398
00:24:41.559 --> 00:24:46.599
and like really just black. But they weren't like slanted

399
00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:48.000
in any sort of way. They're just sort of like

400
00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:52.200
straight across like the Normally when you see like human eye,

401
00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:55.519
there's like an upturn or a downturn, and then there's

402
00:24:55.519 --> 00:24:57.720
some people that are just like right across the middle.

403
00:24:58.400 --> 00:25:03.240
His eyes were like that, but like huge, and there

404
00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:05.240
was like a slight wrinkle at the at the bridge

405
00:25:05.240 --> 00:25:07.559
of the nose, and other than that, it was just

406
00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:13.279
like like just just like a regular looking guy with

407
00:25:13.359 --> 00:25:17.119
like big like flat lip or like like thin lips

408
00:25:17.119 --> 00:25:19.640
and all that. But like he had like I noticed

409
00:25:19.680 --> 00:25:24.039
he had, like his his hair was really short and

410
00:25:24.200 --> 00:25:29.720
just confirmed my theories about them them shedding. And we

411
00:25:29.799 --> 00:25:32.400
can get into that more. But like that's what I saw.

412
00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:34.960
That was like the big thing from Oak Ridge.

413
00:25:36.400 --> 00:25:41.920
That's incredible. Were other people, well, I guess it sounded

414
00:25:41.960 --> 00:25:46.119
like most everyone was over by where the documentary is playing.

415
00:25:46.119 --> 00:25:49.759
But do you think other people may have experienced anything

416
00:25:49.799 --> 00:25:51.480
like that over there as well or.

417
00:25:52.680 --> 00:25:56.480
The Okay, so the ladies that were camping next to me,

418
00:25:56.799 --> 00:26:00.200
a couple of like special ed teachers, they got to

419
00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:04.279
hear like the rocks being thrown into the river because

420
00:26:04.319 --> 00:26:06.079
it was making such a funny sound of it was

421
00:26:06.119 --> 00:26:09.920
because like the bubbles were like reverberating and it was

422
00:26:09.960 --> 00:26:12.960
making like a like it just like a real funny

423
00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:18.079
sound because the way that the water was going to

424
00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:20.079
the speed of the water, and then like the I'm

425
00:26:20.079 --> 00:26:22.200
guessing the size of the rocks were just like creating

426
00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:26.240
such a cavity when they hit the water that you

427
00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:30.920
could just hear like like all the way to the bottom.

428
00:26:31.319 --> 00:26:34.440
And like they were hearing that, and then some other ladies,

429
00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:39.400
like like in the other camp on the other side,

430
00:26:39.400 --> 00:26:43.640
I mean had heard like they told me like the

431
00:26:43.640 --> 00:26:47.559
next morning that something something got the cat that had

432
00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:49.599
been wandering around the straight cat.

433
00:26:50.519 --> 00:26:50.880
Oh wow.

434
00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:54.799
Yeah, So my guess is after he's done with me,

435
00:26:54.920 --> 00:27:00.519
he went and ate a cat. But but it's interesting

436
00:27:00.519 --> 00:27:02.640
when when you see this stuff and then like have

437
00:27:02.839 --> 00:27:07.519
like the little the little details like get confirmed, like

438
00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:12.119
the like how the rock sounded and like the stray

439
00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:15.359
cat is like slinking around. I don't think that was

440
00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:18.359
the only one that had noticed it, like other than

441
00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:21.400
one when it was like in the actual like area

442
00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:25.680
where they're showing the videos. But that was like it.

443
00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:29.039
It was nice because like it wasn't like me just

444
00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:34.559
having like a you know, waking up from heavy sleep

445
00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:42.839
or something and like just like hallucinaedy or something. But yeah,

446
00:27:42.920 --> 00:27:47.680
it's it's interesting, but like no, no, no, not to me. Visuals.

447
00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:52.279
Some of the documentary people from What's That.

448
00:27:54.680 --> 00:27:54.839
Tea?

449
00:27:55.119 --> 00:28:00.000
Yeah, yeah, yeah, a couple of them. They they asked,

450
00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:03.720
you know, like what was going on on where I

451
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:06.640
was when I when I when I had the encounter

452
00:28:08.119 --> 00:28:10.440
the first night, and I just told them it was

453
00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:15.359
like it's like I was. I was told whereas the

454
00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:17.480
truck was facing, and I like pointed to like the

455
00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:19.799
general area and I told him just look for the

456
00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:22.039
flashing eyes. You'll see it. And then they just stood

457
00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:23.799
there for a second. We all stood there by the

458
00:28:23.799 --> 00:28:27.359
bench looking across the river and there it was like

459
00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:32.559
the the three little juveniles and then like a flash

460
00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:34.880
of the female then she was gone, and then there

461
00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:37.960
was like there was like actually like five or six

462
00:28:38.079 --> 00:28:43.160
more littler ones, like real tiny ones, just farther back in,

463
00:28:43.319 --> 00:28:45.240
but like they're all kind of in the same area.

464
00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:47.799
And there was just like a lot of little babies

465
00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:52.000
just all over that hillside and they were like getting

466
00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:55.480
to finally getting to like see something like the flashing eyes.

467
00:28:55.559 --> 00:28:58.279
I'm like, they're like, oh my gosh, that too, and

468
00:28:58.279 --> 00:29:00.559
they were getting excited, and it was like it was

469
00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:06.640
nice to like have somebody like acknowledge and then like

470
00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:10.960
let me like show them and then like something happened.

471
00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:13.440
You know. It's like one thing when you tell somebody,

472
00:29:13.559 --> 00:29:16.039
that's another thing when you can bring them to the

473
00:29:16.079 --> 00:29:19.519
spot and like it's just like the magic can happen

474
00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:22.400
for you just enough for them to like get excited.

475
00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:23.640
It felt really.

476
00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:26.720
Good, yeah, And that that one of the cool things

477
00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:31.440
about about that festival. Where you know, you can go

478
00:29:31.559 --> 00:29:34.839
to like a big foot conference or festival, but or

479
00:29:35.119 --> 00:29:37.200
let's say a big Foot conference, but it might be

480
00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:39.680
like downtown in the middle of the city, but like

481
00:29:39.759 --> 00:29:42.799
this one is very unique because it's in the park

482
00:29:43.400 --> 00:29:45.920
on the side of a river and across the bridge

483
00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:47.799
of that river. I know I've said this before, but

484
00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:52.880
is a literal like it's the literal wilderness of Oakridge,

485
00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:55.319
and it's where most of the town people when I

486
00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:59.079
was talking to people before I got there, like, that's

487
00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:01.440
where a lot of there's site things actually take place

488
00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:04.920
in Oakridge is across that bridge on the other side.

489
00:30:05.480 --> 00:30:07.240
So it all lines up.

490
00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:07.519
Man.

491
00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:10.519
But it's very it's a very unique thing where you

492
00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:14.279
can experience that festival, but you also are so close

493
00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:18.880
to potential area for for experiencing some things as well.

494
00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:19.680
It's very cool.

495
00:30:20.759 --> 00:30:23.519
Yeah, it's like it's it's that it's that line between

496
00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:29.680
like being a like like believing and knowing and like

497
00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:34.680
you know, like you like I heard I got to

498
00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:38.960
listen to your little experience with the with the screen. Yeah,

499
00:30:39.119 --> 00:30:42.960
like you you interviewed enough people and you believed and

500
00:30:43.000 --> 00:30:45.960
like you had a couple of little experiences. But when

501
00:30:46.000 --> 00:30:49.559
you had that scream, there's that knowing.

502
00:30:50.759 --> 00:30:58.240
Yeah it uh, I came back from Oregon a totally

503
00:30:58.599 --> 00:31:01.119
a totally different person. Is very weird. It's it's hard

504
00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:04.079
to explain but I think that might be part of it.

505
00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:24.680
Big society will be right back after these messages. It

506
00:31:24.799 --> 00:31:28.839
was just it was just very cool but also very strange.

507
00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:34.680
And having the having the legs messed up that didn't

508
00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:38.079
help either. So next year, I'll try not to do that.

509
00:31:40.119 --> 00:31:41.559
I just kept looking at it was like, le'd you

510
00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:44.559
step in? What's what's that? Oh, I gotta watch out

511
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:49.079
for poison oak And yeah, you just saw you just

512
00:31:49.160 --> 00:31:51.759
mess with your legs. It's like, oh, yeah, it doesn't

513
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:52.240
look good.

514
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:55.960
Yeah, yeah, the doctors still have no idea, but it's

515
00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:59.119
it's it's out of there no matter what it was.

516
00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:05.599
So who wow, Yeah, it's a man. It's some very

517
00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:09.480
interesting things that happened about around that festival. And I'm actually,

518
00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:17.279
I want to say tomorrow I am interviewing another gentleman

519
00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:20.799
who I guess. So here's the thing about this festival.

520
00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:23.720
There were like all these groups of people that were

521
00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:27.319
doing things around the area at the same time and

522
00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:32.319
having these like weird things happen related to bigfoots. So

523
00:32:33.319 --> 00:32:36.400
there's really yeah, there's multi man, it's it's coming out.

524
00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:39.279
There's multiple storylines. Well I guess you could call them

525
00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:43.319
storylines that were happening around the same time during this festival.

526
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:47.960
So I'm going to talk to Bill tomorrow and his

527
00:32:48.119 --> 00:32:53.440
will probably be coming out pretty pretty quick after this

528
00:32:53.559 --> 00:33:01.440
episode gets released in the future. But so are you

529
00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:04.640
you're planning on coming back in twenty twenty five? You

530
00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:06.640
think or should?

531
00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:08.240
Yeah? I think so. I think so.

532
00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:17.839
Yeah, that's cool. I am there. What else if next year,

533
00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:23.279
if something is going down over there, hopefully I can.

534
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:25.799
I can be aware enough that I'll I'll check it

535
00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:28.480
out next year as well. Oh yeah, that'd be pretty cool.

536
00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:35.720
But so you mentioned you had some some other things

537
00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:39.480
that you you had going on as as well.

538
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:45.720
Josh oh Man, Yeah, the Yeah, I need to talk

539
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:49.359
about Cultist Lake. I need to get that up there absolutely.

540
00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:55.519
This summer, we ended up going on a camping trip

541
00:33:55.599 --> 00:34:00.079
out to uh and approximately the same kind of a

542
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:04.119
it's like it's like in that that mountain range we're

543
00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:07.960
at with where Oak Ridge was, but a little farther

544
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:13.159
down the road and like more inland, so it's like

545
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:17.320
kind of halfway to to Bend. But it's a it's

546
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:25.079
a little lake called Cultis Lake and uh, you know, beautiful,

547
00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:28.400
little like campground, real spat, real spacious, like a lot

548
00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:33.320
of elbar room between each campground. I'd highly recommend it

549
00:34:33.400 --> 00:34:35.800
if you're a big footer, and I totally recommend it,

550
00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:39.920
But like if you just like a good like experience

551
00:34:39.960 --> 00:34:42.519
with the family in terms of like having a nice, big,

552
00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:47.440
spacious like lot to camp on, it's totally. It's it's

553
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:50.039
right on the money. They have boat Reynolds and all

554
00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:54.920
that stuff, and like it it's it's kind of amazing

555
00:34:54.960 --> 00:35:00.559
in a certain way. But when I got there, it

556
00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:03.039
was like fourth of July. It was like the weekend

557
00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:09.599
before fourth of July, and so everybody was like you

558
00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:14.840
just ripped Laren just going crazy and like they were

559
00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:18.519
like laughing and drinking and like there was multiple parties,

560
00:35:18.679 --> 00:35:22.800
multiple languages, like people. It was like it was fourth

561
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:28.960
of July season, you know, and like you know, it's

562
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:34.039
it's rowdy. Like my my wife and daughter like starting

563
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:36.880
to bed down and story time and all that stuff,

564
00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:41.039
and like I decide I'm just gonna stay up a

565
00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:43.960
little bit and just like started like see see what's

566
00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:46.880
going on. Like I'd like i'd like to if I'm

567
00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:49.440
gonna go to sleep, I like to see what what's

568
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:53.039
out there and like what's like sneaking around because that's

569
00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:55.719
when like when the when the critters come out is

570
00:35:55.719 --> 00:35:59.119
that at night mostly, and I just wanted to, you know,

571
00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:03.280
make sure there was too much like bigfoot activity and

572
00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:05.519
there's plenty of distraction, So I didn't want to be

573
00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:12.800
like advertising that I knew about them. But you know,

574
00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:17.280
every time I do that, I end up making it worse,

575
00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:22.559
and that's exactly what happened here because, uh, you know,

576
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:25.480
I had just got that flashlight that I mentioned in

577
00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:30.840
like the previously, just a few minutes ago, and so

578
00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:33.239
I wanted to just like see how high I could

579
00:36:33.239 --> 00:36:35.119
make it beam up into the sky. I was just

580
00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:37.800
you know, just like playing with it for a second,

581
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:40.199
like turning it on for the first time, really just

582
00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:43.760
like cutting loose and then like shining see how far

583
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:45.840
across the lake I could shine it. But what that

584
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:50.960
did was like it I think I probably looked like

585
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:54.639
a big foot or something like shining my eyes, Deamon,

586
00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:57.280
my eyeballs. And then one of them came to like

587
00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:00.239
check me out. Like immediately, it was like I could

588
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:03.079
hear the crackle and the branches, and there was like

589
00:37:03.119 --> 00:37:05.599
a couple in the camp next to me, and like

590
00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:12.480
they're like an old like old timer, like like an

591
00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:18.039
outdoorsman type. And I think he he he knew what

592
00:37:18.159 --> 00:37:20.840
was going on, but I think he was just trying

593
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:23.000
to have a good time with his with his wife

594
00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:25.639
and they were He wasn't about to like just point

595
00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:27.559
it out, but I could I could tell he was

596
00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:30.960
tracking it too. But that thing was like crackling through

597
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:34.960
the dry branches. It starts to get really dry when

598
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:37.599
you get over the mountains and like get closer to

599
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:42.440
uh then it starts turning into high desert. And so

600
00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:48.199
we're in that like transition zone, and like all the

601
00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:51.079
branches are super dry, and so when they when they

602
00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:54.039
run around or they're moving around through the trees, it's

603
00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:59.079
it's super obvious and like and like they can't really

604
00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:03.400
hide themselves very well. But people are our people, and

605
00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:05.679
they got their own lives, and they don't pay attention

606
00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:09.000
to anything even when they're out in the woods. And like,

607
00:38:11.320 --> 00:38:17.480
I uh got a like I actually got I turned

608
00:38:17.480 --> 00:38:19.159
off the flashlight and I was just standing there in

609
00:38:19.159 --> 00:38:22.360
the dark for a second, just waiting to see what

610
00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:26.880
was around. And all of a sudden, I just see

611
00:38:26.920 --> 00:38:32.199
like a quarter of like an arm a chest and

612
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:37.320
like half of like the mid section and like the

613
00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:42.079
head like come out of cloak, hanging from like the

614
00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:45.119
tree that was in my campground, right above the fire pit,

615
00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:48.920
maybe like fifteen twenty feet from me, come out of

616
00:38:48.960 --> 00:38:51.880
cloak and like go up into the tree. Like he

617
00:38:51.960 --> 00:38:56.679
moved into the tree. I saw him, and then I

618
00:38:56.679 --> 00:39:01.280
could I was trying the flashlight up there just to

619
00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:03.920
sort of like spook him off. Maybe I was hoping

620
00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:07.559
that would work, but that doesn't work. Just for the record,

621
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:12.360
that doesn't work. But he like just stayed up there,

622
00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:15.760
and then he moved to the other tree, and he

623
00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:17.920
here crackling as he moved up, and he just sort

624
00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:21.039
of hung out there, and he could hear the the

625
00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:23.480
timber just sort of like waning a little bit and

626
00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:26.239
crackling in the in the in the core like it's

627
00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:29.480
like you know, and like just the little twigs and

628
00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:31.679
branches as he's like moving up trying to get into

629
00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:34.480
the comfortable position and just wait for me to go

630
00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:41.880
back inside and h the whole time. So I just decided,

631
00:39:41.880 --> 00:39:44.920
you know what, I'm just gonna go inside. And uh,

632
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:50.000
my daughter was already asleep for because it was a

633
00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:52.039
big day and like story time was done and she

634
00:39:52.119 --> 00:39:54.000
was out cold. It was just my wife and I

635
00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:58.400
get in there and I listened and I told her

636
00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:01.519
what I just saw, and sheers, she's she was still

637
00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:04.239
on the fence at that time about all this stuff,

638
00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:07.000
and she didn't want to sort of address it. But

639
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:09.679
I was like forcing the voicing her to like deal

640
00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:12.320
with it, because I wasn't about to just like, uh,

641
00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:15.360
you'll go back in the big foot closet with you.

642
00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:19.760
I I. I just was like telling her point blank,

643
00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:24.719
like I just saw something out there, and she says, well,

644
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:27.280
then you just need to You just need to stop

645
00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:29.480
staying up so late, and you need to go to sleep.

646
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:33.239
And I said, okay, I will. But then as I wed,

647
00:40:33.679 --> 00:40:36.239
as I'm laying there, you can hear I got to

648
00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:41.239
hear ah, but you can still hear the people's still rowdy,

649
00:40:41.400 --> 00:40:46.360
and over them, you got to hear like just like

650
00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:49.960
identical to the Sierras sounds, so like two of them

651
00:40:49.960 --> 00:40:53.639
were two bigfoot were arguing in the background, and I

652
00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:57.000
could like it was like then that was like the

653
00:40:57.159 --> 00:41:02.280
let samurai talk, but over her over the people like

654
00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:07.400
screaming and yelling, and so you couldn't if you don't

655
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:09.559
know what it is you will tell when I caught it.

656
00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:11.599
But it was like super loud, and I told my wife,

657
00:41:11.639 --> 00:41:14.360
so did you hear that? And she's go, that's a

658
00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:19.760
that's big foot talk. And she's like listens, she her

659
00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:24.199
eyes get big, goes uh uh, you know it's not

660
00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:27.880
drug people. I was like, nobody speaks that language, I said,

661
00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:35.280
and yeah, and like you just hear it, like them

662
00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:38.679
like going bantering back and forth, and like either they

663
00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:40.400
were talking to each other or talking to the guy,

664
00:41:41.559 --> 00:41:43.840
the one big foot that was in my camp looking

665
00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:47.400
at me. I'm like, sort of like massive around. They

666
00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:51.119
probably saw me beam the light and like they're they're

667
00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:53.519
already like geeked up from like all the people being

668
00:41:53.559 --> 00:41:57.280
rowdy and loud, but I beamed the light and they

669
00:41:57.360 --> 00:41:59.400
he was checking it out and they're probably like when

670
00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:02.280
is it, you know, like just trying to figure out

671
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:05.960
what's going on, because it was like campers and humans

672
00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:08.199
are all this. It's gonna be the same story over

673
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:11.079
and over again. That's nothing new. But when it's something

674
00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:14.079
out of ordinary, they're gonna they're gonna get curious and

675
00:42:14.119 --> 00:42:19.599
they're gonna investigate them like they're the they in some ways,

676
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:22.519
like you don't know what they're saying, you know what, basically,

677
00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:27.400
what's what's going on. There's just certain like idiosyncratic like

678
00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:30.400
things that they do that we do, and you just

679
00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:33.320
sort of get the gist of what's going on, like

680
00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:38.840
without like projecting too much, you know, but uh, you

681
00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:42.639
just sort of get the the vibe of like then

682
00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:47.280
wanting to know and like arguing back and forth. And

683
00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:51.239
then there was that. So my wife got to hear

684
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:56.320
this essentially the Sierra sounds. She could cared less. She

685
00:42:56.400 --> 00:43:01.079
wanted to go to sleep, but I was like I

686
00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:03.320
was just like sitting there on my knees, just lit

687
00:43:03.440 --> 00:43:06.320
in the tank, going oh my gosh, and uh and

688
00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:09.639
I she finally made I finally laid down and like

689
00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:14.239
tried to sleep and all that, and uh the next

690
00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:21.400
night we bed down. This time, I go straight to bed.

691
00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:25.880
I don't want to mess with anything. And but like

692
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:28.599
I could once everything everybody was like down, and it

693
00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:33.960
got it was a lot quieter. Everybody was down. I

694
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:37.519
had to go to the bathroom and a few people

695
00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:39.440
left and so there was like a bunch of empty

696
00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:43.159
campgrounds and I had to go to the bathroom. I

697
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:45.159
had to walk through with my little lantern and I

698
00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:48.800
could hear him crackling in the in the trees watching

699
00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:51.199
this he was coming, but I'm lucky looking straight at him,

700
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:55.280
and I'm just like I stopped to acknowledge them. And

701
00:43:55.320 --> 00:43:58.119
then I go into the bathroom and I come back,

702
00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:00.760
I do the same way, and I can hear them

703
00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:03.760
like following me a little more but looking at me.

704
00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:08.800
And so then I go back to my tent and

705
00:44:08.840 --> 00:44:16.079
it's like nothing else happens, but I think it was

706
00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:22.239
the following night is when like the action happened. Some

707
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:25.960
new people come in on either side of us, and

708
00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:29.239
they're they're they're talking a lot, and they're making noise,

709
00:44:29.440 --> 00:44:33.119
and like after most people have bedded down and the

710
00:44:33.159 --> 00:44:38.280
camp guard got pretty quiet, I could hear the crackling

711
00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:40.960
and then the sound of them like clumping down, plumping

712
00:44:41.000 --> 00:44:43.719
down out of the trees, like they landed there in camp,

713
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:46.519
and they all made a bee line for the tent

714
00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:49.800
and there was like I think three or four of

715
00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:55.760
them just on. It was like at least like three

716
00:44:55.800 --> 00:45:01.440
of them like it in the camp. The like I

717
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:05.639
heard him and I heard like the the communication the

718
00:45:05.679 --> 00:45:08.920
female like gives like a like a like a tonal

719
00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:16.199
like hum sounds like and he was like he gave

720
00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:23.960
like a long like with like three like radily clicks

721
00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:30.039
and they're like click click click, with with a snap

722
00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:32.719
pop at the end. And then all of a sudden,

723
00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:37.480
I just hear a stomp stomp, stomp, like a crinkly

724
00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:42.639
stomp as he's like on my tarp, just like stomping it.

725
00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:45.800
And then then all of a sudden, it sounds like

726
00:45:46.679 --> 00:45:48.880
a little like mouse or something is by my my

727
00:45:48.960 --> 00:45:52.599
t get confused for a second. I'm like, oh, man,

728
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:54.159
let's what's going.

729
00:45:53.960 --> 00:45:56.679
On big for society? Who will be right back after

730
00:45:56.719 --> 00:45:57.480
these messages?

731
00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:15.079
And all of a sudden I realize it's a finger.

732
00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:18.480
And then he starts feeling up the corner of my tent,

733
00:46:19.119 --> 00:46:21.360
and then all of a sudden he starts like reaching

734
00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:25.039
and grabbing and snatching at the at the bugs at

735
00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:27.039
the top of the tent. We had left the lamp

736
00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:30.079
on for my daughter. She's just still afraid of the dark,

737
00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:33.199
and so we just he had like attracted all the

738
00:46:33.239 --> 00:46:37.000
bugs under a rain fly and so like you just

739
00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:43.239
hear like the the sound of like you know, someone

740
00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:46.559
like rubbing the tent, and like you know that that

741
00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:52.480
whippy rippy sound that like the tents make when they're

742
00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:56.320
like rubbing together. But it was just like just me,

743
00:46:56.599 --> 00:46:59.760
My wife's passed up, the daughters passed up, and my

744
00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:03.079
just me and my pounding heart. As I'm listening to

745
00:47:03.159 --> 00:47:05.599
all this stuff because I knew they just made a beeline.

746
00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:08.920
It was. I heard one of them like like lifting

747
00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:11.440
up and like pushing stuff around on the on the

748
00:47:11.519 --> 00:47:17.480
table and like messing with the toes, and uh. It

749
00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:20.679
was it was a little intense because like as soon

750
00:47:20.679 --> 00:47:23.360
as he started like taking stuff, I could hear him

751
00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:27.920
like chomping, like his huge teeth and like his massive

752
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:31.559
jaw and like the fangs inside his mouth and everything

753
00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:36.079
was clacking around. But like it was like chump, chump, chump, chump,

754
00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:42.679
like just intense, like like horse teeth, like just just

755
00:47:42.800 --> 00:47:46.800
chomping down. And he's just like it's like eating all

756
00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:49.039
the bugs out of the out of the the rain fly.

757
00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:52.039
And I'm like sit up. I'm like, oh my gosh.

758
00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:56.800
And then like when I sat up, the female like

759
00:47:57.000 --> 00:47:59.480
flashed her eye, like one of her eyes at me

760
00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:03.000
through the tent, kind of like a flashlight, just to

761
00:48:03.079 --> 00:48:06.800
let me let me know that they were there and

762
00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:08.920
not to come out and I was like, oh my gosh,

763
00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:12.400
my heart's pounding, so laying back and I'm just listening

764
00:48:12.440 --> 00:48:16.159
to like these like chattering like monster teeth just like

765
00:48:16.199 --> 00:48:19.000
clacking around and the fangs are clapping against each other,

766
00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:23.079
and it was so intense. It's so terrifying, and like

767
00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:27.880
I wasn't sure where this was headed, you know, was like,

768
00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:29.559
is he a few runs out of bugs? Is he

769
00:48:29.559 --> 00:48:33.599
gonna work on us? Like like because it's it's clearly

770
00:48:33.719 --> 00:48:39.159
they know I know, and I'm interesting to them in

771
00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:41.480
some sort of way, but I don't know their temperament,

772
00:48:41.599 --> 00:48:45.280
if they're like crazy or not, or if they're super aggressive.

773
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:48.400
But what they were doing was super aggressive because normally

774
00:48:48.599 --> 00:48:52.320
they'll keep their distance and like they like to have

775
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:55.159
a tree or something between them. But they they were

776
00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:58.639
like just like made the bee line. As soon as

777
00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:03.760
I went inside, they made the bee line, and uh yeah,

778
00:49:03.800 --> 00:49:07.320
that was that was enough for me. I was like

779
00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:09.920
I didn't want to like push it any further, and

780
00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:11.800
I sort of convinced my wife that we need to

781
00:49:11.840 --> 00:49:14.239
just pack up and go. We still had another night

782
00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:19.199
left on our reservation, and I wasn't about to hang

783
00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:21.119
out for the for the rest of it, and she

784
00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:26.840
was sort of bummed about it. But uh, we packed

785
00:49:26.920 --> 00:49:31.599
up and finally left and like that was Cultus Lake.

786
00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:36.639
And did did you did you look around? Uh, notice

787
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:39.800
anything weird or out of the ordinary the next morning,

788
00:49:41.480 --> 00:49:46.800
like any any broken sticks or or footprints or anything

789
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:49.320
weird like that around your your tent site.

790
00:49:50.400 --> 00:49:53.400
No, there was no no prince. I couldn't see any prince.

791
00:49:53.519 --> 00:50:00.079
But I did see chewed branches, like the when they

792
00:50:01.320 --> 00:50:03.039
chew the bark that chewed the inner bark you can

793
00:50:03.079 --> 00:50:04.880
see like usually the fame marks. I could see the

794
00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:10.960
fang marks of them chewing the stripped branches everywhere. And

795
00:50:10.639 --> 00:50:13.280
I saw this weird stump in the middle of the

796
00:50:14.679 --> 00:50:18.480
in the middle of the camp. It looked like it

797
00:50:18.519 --> 00:50:21.000
had a rock in it, And I actually found a

798
00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:23.679
rock that was down on the beach. It looked like

799
00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:26.920
it was like a like a grinding stone or something

800
00:50:26.960 --> 00:50:30.519
or hammerstone, somebody using it to like grind stuff with.

801
00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:34.679
And I think it was probably there there there they're

802
00:50:34.719 --> 00:50:37.119
cracking stone that they used, and they probably used it

803
00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:39.239
in that spot. But like I put it in there,

804
00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:41.760
and it fit like a glove, like it had been

805
00:50:41.800 --> 00:50:45.840
pounded into that stump, like over a long period of time.

806
00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:49.400
Like this was an old dead stump, but it was

807
00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:52.519
clearly it had been worked and it was like chisel

808
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:55.000
marks and it was like smooth in some parts, but

809
00:50:55.119 --> 00:50:57.960
like it had been like cracked with a rock like

810
00:50:58.639 --> 00:51:02.480
hundreds of times and in this one spot on the stump.

811
00:51:02.679 --> 00:51:05.960
And it was so weird, like because like I was like, oh,

812
00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:07.800
I could just put it here. But then I put

813
00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:12.039
it there just just to like fill my daughter, like

814
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:15.159
and tell her about like Native Americans and like all

815
00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:19.400
that stuff and like how they would grind like things

816
00:51:19.480 --> 00:51:23.800
like seeds and stuff, and to give her a history

817
00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:27.159
lesson just like make the more aware of nature and

818
00:51:27.239 --> 00:51:29.119
like how to use things and stuff. But then like,

819
00:51:29.719 --> 00:51:32.280
but as it I placed it in that stump, it

820
00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:35.199
just like fits so perfectly, and it was the shape

821
00:51:35.239 --> 00:51:39.440
of rock, and I think it was just there. They're

822
00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:41.679
a little hammerstone that they used to like crack the

823
00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:45.599
nuts whatever nuts they found out there. But I did

824
00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:50.119
notice that, like the the surrounding vegetation had been trampled

825
00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:54.920
pretty well, like there's still like underbrush and a lot

826
00:51:54.960 --> 00:51:59.519
of the forests in that area. But like this this section,

827
00:51:59.639 --> 00:52:02.519
like you see that the trees were pushed over, and

828
00:52:02.599 --> 00:52:05.159
like there was a lot of like trees that were

829
00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:07.360
stripped of their bark, and then like you would see

830
00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:11.559
like where there should be like like underbrush, it's like

831
00:52:11.639 --> 00:52:17.320
all like like trampled, uh, vegetation, like branches stripped of

832
00:52:17.360 --> 00:52:21.760
their leaves, and like clearly they'd been like feeding in there.

833
00:52:21.880 --> 00:52:29.320
But like, uh, some these kids found what was a

834
00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:32.159
little fort made out of like giant logs, and they said,

835
00:52:32.199 --> 00:52:34.400
some guys were working on it, and look what guys,

836
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:37.360
we're working on it. But they didn't want to hang

837
00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:39.519
out and talk to me about this little fort. But

838
00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:42.519
I was like looking at it. It was like lined

839
00:52:42.559 --> 00:52:45.199
with like cedar fronds and.

840
00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:51.400
Like like it looked like a bigfoot nest and like

841
00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:54.159
like what I've noticed about like in here and like

842
00:52:54.280 --> 00:52:55.599
just in the West Lynne in general.

843
00:52:55.679 --> 00:52:59.119
Like if the kids see one of these little structures,

844
00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:01.679
they I think it's just a regular fort, and they

845
00:53:01.719 --> 00:53:04.119
start like building on top of it and playing in

846
00:53:04.199 --> 00:53:07.599
them and stuff and like, but you can always tell

847
00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:11.400
when kids do it and like it stuff's out of

848
00:53:11.440 --> 00:53:15.039
place and it's just like sort of sort of like

849
00:53:15.519 --> 00:53:20.159
halfway finished, but when a bigfoot's doing it, it's complete

850
00:53:20.360 --> 00:53:22.159
and there's like a bed in there to sleep on,

851
00:53:22.320 --> 00:53:24.960
and you definitely like live in there or like get

852
00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:31.320
out of the rain. Ah. And that's what this little,

853
00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:33.440
this little fort had. It was like it had a

854
00:53:33.480 --> 00:53:37.400
bed inside. It was right next to the water. It

855
00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:41.360
was underneath a clump a clump of trees. The logs

856
00:53:41.360 --> 00:53:47.880
are massive. There was like I a little a little

857
00:53:47.880 --> 00:53:50.360
big for a camping trip. For somebody to say, hey,

858
00:53:50.440 --> 00:53:54.119
let's build a fort out of these gigantic logs for

859
00:53:54.199 --> 00:53:57.440
no reason instead of like just bait some bathing on

860
00:53:57.480 --> 00:54:01.519
the beach in kayaking, you know it. It was like

861
00:54:02.480 --> 00:54:05.039
maybe some guys like maybe the I'm thinking that these

862
00:54:05.119 --> 00:54:11.599
kids found found a little little hut and uh, I'm

863
00:54:11.679 --> 00:54:14.760
like they just saw these guys like putting it together

864
00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:17.119
because they they also found it and thought it was

865
00:54:17.159 --> 00:54:19.880
neat and they were just in there drinking around. Probably

866
00:54:19.920 --> 00:54:22.039
thought someone else did it. It's always like somebody else

867
00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:26.920
like too big, but nobody's like no, you never like

868
00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:30.039
meet the the original Oh yeah, no, that was me.

869
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:34.840
I did that. It's always like a second second, oh yeah,

870
00:54:34.880 --> 00:54:38.000
I know some other guy someone else, and it's never

871
00:54:38.320 --> 00:54:42.639
so I had a little Yeah, there was that little

872
00:54:42.639 --> 00:54:44.920
fort there was at the very edge of the lake

873
00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:49.960
in our campground. They had the little stomp the I

874
00:54:50.039 --> 00:54:52.199
went and checked the table to see if they hadn't

875
00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:55.639
messed with anything, and everything was like slid back into place.

876
00:54:55.760 --> 00:54:58.159
But I could hear them like messing with it, like

877
00:54:58.159 --> 00:55:00.880
trying to lift open to tots and stuff. But then

878
00:55:00.920 --> 00:55:05.360
they stopped and I couldn't find a single footprint, like

879
00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:11.440
but I did, I did hear. But what I did

880
00:55:11.480 --> 00:55:17.159
find was at first thing in the morning when I

881
00:55:17.199 --> 00:55:20.760
came out, I found like some of the bug car carcasses,

882
00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:23.199
as they were like sliced and hal look like somebody

883
00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:25.920
cut it up with scissors. So it was like razor

884
00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:29.599
sharp cuts. So like the teeth or razor sharp meant

885
00:55:29.599 --> 00:55:35.119
for like I'm guessing, like just like cutting tearing like meat,

886
00:55:35.440 --> 00:55:40.880
you know, and like this meant for like eating deer whatnot,

887
00:55:41.159 --> 00:55:45.880
you know, just like meat eaters. But like the the

888
00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:49.440
cuts on the wings were like like angular and just

889
00:55:51.480 --> 00:55:53.440
it was crazy. It was like super like ray like

890
00:55:53.480 --> 00:55:56.000
somebody hit it with like a little like exact a

891
00:55:56.039 --> 00:55:59.719
knife or something like just clean cuts, not smashed too much,

892
00:55:59.840 --> 00:56:05.199
just like clean sharp cuts on some yellow jackets and

893
00:56:05.199 --> 00:56:07.679
and moths and stuff. It was. It was kind of crazy.

894
00:56:09.119 --> 00:56:12.519
But that's about all I saw for like like anything

895
00:56:12.679 --> 00:56:13.800
left behind.

896
00:56:14.760 --> 00:56:18.679
That's that's really interesting. So you're saying multiple, multiple different

897
00:56:18.679 --> 00:56:23.159
types of bugs were found cut apart, not just like

898
00:56:23.880 --> 00:56:25.679
cicadas are all one kind.

899
00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:29.960
No, No, there's all sorts of difference. So what what

900
00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:33.199
Because like the it's high desert, there's a lot less

901
00:56:33.280 --> 00:56:37.639
water and what what's been What I noticed was like

902
00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:41.440
along the shoreline, there's a point where the water lapped up,

903
00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:44.239
but I didn't go any farther, and that's you'd see

904
00:56:44.360 --> 00:56:47.239
like just a line of bugs. All the bugs in

905
00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:51.320
the area were just like like like a thousands of

906
00:56:51.360 --> 00:56:54.519
bugs at the water point, just coming to get a

907
00:56:54.599 --> 00:56:58.800
drink of water. Would be bees and hornets and wasps

908
00:56:58.960 --> 00:57:04.760
and like moths and butterflies and ants and like beetles

909
00:57:04.800 --> 00:57:09.440
and just all sorts of beetles like the species I've

910
00:57:09.480 --> 00:57:14.159
never seen before, you know, steam bugs, all just everything

911
00:57:14.679 --> 00:57:19.719
just ants too, just all along this one waterline. So

912
00:57:19.719 --> 00:57:23.599
I'm thinking they just for the most part probably just

913
00:57:23.639 --> 00:57:27.280
live off of the bugs and nuts or something and

914
00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:33.159
like like tree bark get their water. I mean, the

915
00:57:33.199 --> 00:57:39.239
food sources there, the waters there, the shelters there just

916
00:57:39.280 --> 00:57:45.000
like it's it's just interesting because like each each biome

917
00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:49.000
has its own like you know niche like food sources.

918
00:57:49.360 --> 00:57:54.239
Oh absolutely, yeah, yeah that is That is a good point.

919
00:57:54.760 --> 00:57:59.000
There's a thought I had. I want to make sure

920
00:57:59.039 --> 00:58:04.199
I don't forget it. You've mentioned a few times where

921
00:58:04.639 --> 00:58:11.679
you've seen Bigfoot coming in and out of cloak or cloaking.

922
00:58:12.480 --> 00:58:16.079
When you have them, let's say they're in full cloak.

923
00:58:16.159 --> 00:58:19.119
What are the main things that you notice to let

924
00:58:19.159 --> 00:58:23.480
you know that, hey, there's something there, it's just in

925
00:58:23.719 --> 00:58:25.960
cloaked mode. What are the things that tip you off?

926
00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:35.440
Normally you hear them, hear them coming stepping around. They

927
00:58:35.480 --> 00:58:38.559
are they aren't breathing too heavy, like I'll hold your bread,

928
00:58:38.639 --> 00:58:43.480
but like if they want to move or anything like that,

929
00:58:43.639 --> 00:58:49.360
usually you might see just the slightest like parallax, like

930
00:58:49.719 --> 00:58:53.360
just a little bit of like like just a little distortion,

931
00:58:53.559 --> 00:58:56.920
but not a lot. Like No, it's like it's like

932
00:58:57.199 --> 00:59:01.679
pretty much crystal clear, like but when they move, there's

933
00:59:01.840 --> 00:59:06.480
just the slightest little razor thing like sharp line, and

934
00:59:06.599 --> 00:59:08.760
you can usually make out there subway if they if

935
00:59:08.760 --> 00:59:11.360
they move just a little bit, the front end will

936
00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:19.079
will be like like either white or you'll see like

937
00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:22.920
a like a like a black shadowy line, but one

938
00:59:23.000 --> 00:59:25.960
or the other, Like I think it's I wanna say

939
00:59:25.960 --> 00:59:28.840
it's the front the front side of the direction of movement,

940
00:59:29.280 --> 00:59:31.480
it will become like gray and like almost like a

941
00:59:31.480 --> 00:59:35.239
white light. And then on the back side it'll be

942
00:59:35.320 --> 00:59:37.719
like a shadow. It'll be a really like razor, like

943
00:59:37.760 --> 00:59:42.800
a like a little somebody took a sharpie. But but

944
00:59:42.920 --> 00:59:46.159
it looks like like a bubble, like like a blow bubble,

945
00:59:47.360 --> 00:59:50.519
and it just looks like just like a super like glassy,

946
00:59:51.719 --> 00:59:58.519
uh silhouette, but it's like super crystal clear. But like

947
00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:01.559
sometimes when they're moving fast, asked, that's when like that

948
01:00:01.559 --> 01:00:05.800
that white light, I don't think they can keep up

949
01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:09.880
with it, and like it just looks like a glow.

950
01:00:10.039 --> 01:00:11.719
And then like might have you might have a little

951
01:00:11.760 --> 01:00:14.960
flash of light off of it, but like you'll see

952
01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:19.079
like a silhouette of arm and like maybe some of

953
01:00:18.920 --> 01:00:22.400
the face or like you'll get a torso and like

954
01:00:22.480 --> 01:00:25.880
you'll just have like maybe a flash or like a

955
01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:30.400
couple of frames. You're as they as they come out,

956
01:00:30.920 --> 01:00:33.880
they'll like move and then like just as quick as

957
01:00:33.920 --> 01:00:37.360
you're seeing the silhouette. It's they go back in the

958
01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:40.199
cloak and you can't see them anymore. So if what

959
01:00:40.320 --> 01:00:45.360
if what I see is like either there like it's

960
01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:53.039
like that gray, smokey look, or it's like they'll put

961
01:00:53.079 --> 01:00:55.960
out like a like a like a black shadow in

962
01:00:56.000 --> 01:00:58.679
front of them and you can't see anything in the

963
01:00:58.719 --> 01:01:03.519
general area, or or it's like crystal crystal clear, like

964
01:01:03.559 --> 01:01:08.039
a bubble with just the slightest hint of like a distortion.

965
01:01:13.000 --> 01:01:17.000
But like one of the one of the the speakers

966
01:01:17.000 --> 01:01:19.679
there was talking about infrasound and all that stuff and

967
01:01:19.719 --> 01:01:23.920
how that affects Yeah, and I was I was super

968
01:01:23.960 --> 01:01:28.599
fascinated by that because I hadn't looked out for it

969
01:01:28.719 --> 01:01:33.079
or like been really aware of it until like after

970
01:01:33.119 --> 01:01:35.639
he said it, and then I really started like it

971
01:01:35.679 --> 01:01:39.159
was on my radar and then I and like yeah,

972
01:01:39.199 --> 01:01:45.519
they I uh, I actually got this is like this

973
01:01:45.679 --> 01:01:48.280
was like night before last or it was like three

974
01:01:48.360 --> 01:01:53.960
nights ago. They were My daughter was like well wound

975
01:01:54.039 --> 01:01:55.440
up and I was just trying to get her to bed,

976
01:01:55.719 --> 01:02:02.519
and like, uh, anybody listening. I have like a family

977
01:02:02.599 --> 01:02:05.880
bigfoot living behind my house, and like they we have

978
01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:09.360
a routine where I we go to bed and go

979
01:02:09.480 --> 01:02:12.079
upstairs and turn out the lights, and there they come

980
01:02:12.159 --> 01:02:14.920
spilling out of the woods. So they want to interact

981
01:02:14.960 --> 01:02:17.079
with us too much, and they just want to like

982
01:02:17.199 --> 01:02:18.119
sort of stay in their light.

983
01:02:19.079 --> 01:02:22.400
Big for a Society will be right back after these messages.

984
01:02:37.920 --> 01:02:41.000
And so they wait and like before they start feeding

985
01:02:41.000 --> 01:02:43.039
and I put out nuts for them and all that stuff,

986
01:02:43.039 --> 01:02:46.800
and it's everything is cool and smooth and like, but

987
01:02:48.239 --> 01:02:52.840
with this infrasound stuff, like she was she was wound

988
01:02:52.880 --> 01:02:55.079
up and she was just taking away too long I

989
01:02:55.079 --> 01:02:56.760
think it was, but I think it was like almost

990
01:02:56.800 --> 01:02:59.679
like almost ten thirty, almost eleven o'clock, and she was

991
01:02:59.760 --> 01:03:02.199
just going bonkers, and I was just trying to get

992
01:03:02.199 --> 01:03:06.360
her upstairs, and like I could I heard like this

993
01:03:06.559 --> 01:03:12.519
was what I heard, was like a and like I

994
01:03:12.599 --> 01:03:16.320
felt I felt them like sort of like and then

995
01:03:16.360 --> 01:03:20.840
like a second one and they both, like I felt

996
01:03:20.840 --> 01:03:24.800
that like vibrate my my heart and my chest like

997
01:03:24.840 --> 01:03:29.000
two like sticks sort of stabbing through my chest like

998
01:03:29.480 --> 01:03:33.079
one and then from the side to just just sort

999
01:03:33.079 --> 01:03:37.679
of like nudge mes, like get the show on the road,

1000
01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:40.000
and like they just both sort of nudged me. And

1001
01:03:40.039 --> 01:03:44.000
then that was it. And like but that low, deep,

1002
01:03:44.440 --> 01:03:47.360
like vibrational sound, but it was like super sharp and

1003
01:03:47.559 --> 01:03:51.079
focused in one little area and like like my chest

1004
01:03:51.199 --> 01:03:57.480
was just like rumbling. It was so crazy and like

1005
01:03:59.679 --> 01:04:02.360
it it's it's funny, like I think a lot of

1006
01:04:02.400 --> 01:04:06.000
their communication is revolves around like this humming they do.

1007
01:04:09.639 --> 01:04:14.679
Let me make sure I'm staying on track, but oh yeah,

1008
01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:19.599
I can talk about this. This is one of my points. Ah.

1009
01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:22.840
But there's like a low tone like hum that the

1010
01:04:22.880 --> 01:04:29.400
female does. Ah. Let me, let me, let me backtrack

1011
01:04:29.440 --> 01:04:32.239
a little bit. There's what I've what I've noticed like

1012
01:04:32.320 --> 01:04:38.480
since uh uh and recently I'm here is like here

1013
01:04:38.519 --> 01:04:40.800
in west Land is like I was out in the

1014
01:04:40.840 --> 01:04:44.719
front driveway and I was listening see what's going on,

1015
01:04:45.480 --> 01:04:49.599
and I heard like distinctly, like a raspy little babies

1016
01:04:49.639 --> 01:04:54.000
cry coming from the woods, maybe like thirty feet out.

1017
01:04:54.039 --> 01:04:58.320
And I don't know if it was being born or

1018
01:04:58.360 --> 01:05:01.760
if it was like a newborn, but like it was

1019
01:05:01.840 --> 01:05:04.599
like a I know the sound of a crying baby.

1020
01:05:04.599 --> 01:05:07.320
It's like it's instinctive, you know, you just know it.

1021
01:05:07.360 --> 01:05:10.880
And and so it was coming from the woods. So

1022
01:05:10.920 --> 01:05:14.199
I think like the female had another baby, and so

1023
01:05:14.360 --> 01:05:18.679
like the following day I got to hear her. I

1024
01:05:18.719 --> 01:05:22.039
went outside the check on my little garden. As I

1025
01:05:22.039 --> 01:05:24.880
stepped out, I was real quiet, and I heard her

1026
01:05:25.159 --> 01:05:27.199
like just in the bushes on the inside of the fence,

1027
01:05:27.239 --> 01:05:31.159
and she's just I mean, soothing the baby. And it

1028
01:05:31.199 --> 01:05:42.400
was like a like a m like just like that.

1029
01:05:42.519 --> 01:05:45.039
And I was like, oh my god, and I even

1030
01:05:45.079 --> 01:05:46.920
felt a little suit. I felt good. I was like,

1031
01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:56.519
oh baby, but that hum. But they do it's it's

1032
01:05:56.559 --> 01:06:01.920
really interesting and like a tone and like if they

1033
01:06:01.960 --> 01:06:04.320
do communicate, it's very rare, like they don't do it

1034
01:06:04.320 --> 01:06:07.280
all the time, but when they do, it's it seems

1035
01:06:07.320 --> 01:06:11.679
like it's like a huh and like each each home

1036
01:06:11.760 --> 01:06:15.840
has like a a meaning for something right, and they're

1037
01:06:15.880 --> 01:06:18.679
they're communicating all sorts of stuff inside of like a

1038
01:06:18.760 --> 01:06:21.199
bait what what we would call it, just like one

1039
01:06:21.480 --> 01:06:25.000
one like a like a like a vowelshound or something

1040
01:06:25.159 --> 01:06:27.679
or you know, just like one part of a word.

1041
01:06:27.760 --> 01:06:31.199
It's like a whole sentence is being said inside of

1042
01:06:31.239 --> 01:06:33.039
one hump and uh.

1043
01:06:34.920 --> 01:06:37.760
I uh.

1044
01:06:37.800 --> 01:06:42.320
I just it was like it's like there's there's like

1045
01:06:42.360 --> 01:06:44.920
the side of it. It's like the terror and like

1046
01:06:45.440 --> 01:06:49.519
the carnage and like the the absolute brutality of like

1047
01:06:49.599 --> 01:06:53.079
being a wild man, but then they have this totally

1048
01:06:53.199 --> 01:07:01.079
like human side to it. It's just like magic. And uh,

1049
01:07:01.960 --> 01:07:04.760
I've learned to just sort of like take it as

1050
01:07:04.760 --> 01:07:08.000
it comes and not get too wrapped up in the

1051
01:07:08.039 --> 01:07:11.440
fear of like what they're doing, because like maybe like

1052
01:07:11.519 --> 01:07:15.400
a lot of stuff when they you hear like people

1053
01:07:15.440 --> 01:07:18.840
talking about they weren't they're screaming at each other and

1054
01:07:18.880 --> 01:07:22.920
they sounded ferocious, and maybe it wasn't ferocious and it

1055
01:07:23.000 --> 01:07:26.519
was just casual conversation and they were just having talking

1056
01:07:26.559 --> 01:07:32.000
to their cousins across the across the valley, and it

1057
01:07:32.199 --> 01:07:34.800
just sounded intense to us because we just have already

1058
01:07:34.880 --> 01:07:43.599
like stopped middletoned like conversations and like, but uh I

1059
01:07:43.679 --> 01:07:47.880
had a juvenile reveal itself to me and like, what

1060
01:07:47.880 --> 01:07:52.440
what has gone on? And I was I had walked

1061
01:07:52.960 --> 01:07:55.559
a lot of my activity happens like around my garden

1062
01:07:56.039 --> 01:07:58.719
and so because it's like right up against the forest there,

1063
01:07:59.239 --> 01:08:02.519
and I had walked check on my garden, and uh

1064
01:08:03.480 --> 01:08:05.440
it was like eleven o'clock or something, the middle of

1065
01:08:05.440 --> 01:08:09.599
the day, and uh, I just catch a whif of

1066
01:08:09.719 --> 01:08:13.239
like fermented pea. I'm like Oh my gosh, what is that?

1067
01:08:13.719 --> 01:08:17.479
And I'm like I thought maybe I was, like, you know,

1068
01:08:17.520 --> 01:08:23.960
I was making some you know, plant fertilizer with like

1069
01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:27.279
the weeds. You know, I thought maybe it was my stuff.

1070
01:08:27.319 --> 01:08:29.880
But it wasn't. Like the wind, the breeze was coming

1071
01:08:30.159 --> 01:08:33.319
towards me and I'm blowing that smell away, So it

1072
01:08:33.359 --> 01:08:36.920
wasn't my stuff. And it was I stood in the garden,

1073
01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:38.600
I didn't smell it, and then was sudden hear like

1074
01:08:38.640 --> 01:08:40.680
a little twig break, and then like I could hear

1075
01:08:42.239 --> 01:08:44.239
and move a little bit, and then like it'd smell

1076
01:08:44.960 --> 01:08:48.560
like just rotten pea. And I was like, I go,

1077
01:08:48.840 --> 01:08:52.479
it smells like rotten pea over here. And then I

1078
01:08:52.560 --> 01:08:54.960
was just I just said it out loud to the bushes,

1079
01:08:55.520 --> 01:09:00.319
and then he just decides to just go. He has

1080
01:09:00.399 --> 01:09:03.560
like a long age sound so like a and then

1081
01:09:03.600 --> 01:09:10.720
it goes and I just almost sounds like a like

1082
01:09:10.760 --> 01:09:15.560
a bear or something, but like just this long sort

1083
01:09:15.560 --> 01:09:22.680
of like h like tone.

1084
01:09:20.920 --> 01:09:29.479
And Josh, have you talked to them verbally a lot?

1085
01:09:29.560 --> 01:09:33.039
Or is that a thing where that only happens rarely?

1086
01:09:34.840 --> 01:09:40.079
It it only happens rarely. I like a couple of times,

1087
01:09:40.119 --> 01:09:44.840
like when I first met the female when I had

1088
01:09:45.119 --> 01:09:49.520
stuck my head out to see what was like scooching

1089
01:09:49.600 --> 01:09:53.159
up to my window, because at that point I was

1090
01:09:53.159 --> 01:09:56.039
still like in sort of like a weird denial state

1091
01:09:56.119 --> 01:09:59.560
of like the stuff I experienced in Alaska. It was

1092
01:09:59.640 --> 01:10:03.760
just in a Alaska and it was fine here, but

1093
01:10:05.720 --> 01:10:18.439
hold on, yeah, make sorry. I verbally said to the

1094
01:10:18.520 --> 01:10:22.359
female like, Okay, I'm going to sleep then, and she

1095
01:10:22.640 --> 01:10:25.840
like waddled her head and like she sat down and

1096
01:10:25.880 --> 01:10:29.880
like I went to bed. But for the most part,

1097
01:10:30.079 --> 01:10:37.439
most of the communication is like, uh, through like an

1098
01:10:37.479 --> 01:10:39.960
eyed blink or like they just used their eyes or

1099
01:10:39.960 --> 01:10:46.479
something like that to sort of signal to me. But uh,

1100
01:10:48.479 --> 01:10:51.760
usually it's it's like an unspoken communication. So you just

1101
01:10:52.439 --> 01:10:54.279
you gotta sort of go with your gut and what

1102
01:10:54.439 --> 01:10:57.600
your gut's telling me about what the situation is, and

1103
01:10:57.760 --> 01:11:01.920
like try not to like perduce act too much into

1104
01:11:01.960 --> 01:11:04.239
it because like there is that fear factor of like

1105
01:11:05.840 --> 01:11:09.079
it's a big giant like Harry Mann is like it's

1106
01:11:09.159 --> 01:11:13.159
like looking at me, and it's like it might not

1107
01:11:13.199 --> 01:11:16.279
be anything. It might just be friendly, you know. And

1108
01:11:18.079 --> 01:11:21.119
I made the mistake initially with with these guys is

1109
01:11:21.199 --> 01:11:26.720
like assuming the worst and just like eyeballing them and

1110
01:11:26.920 --> 01:11:29.199
just doing all this aggressive activity just to sort of

1111
01:11:29.239 --> 01:11:34.119
assert my dominates and it's like sort of snowball then

1112
01:11:34.159 --> 01:11:38.760
like created like a situation, but it's it's all like

1113
01:11:38.800 --> 01:11:41.079
stuff and down now. But for the most part, in

1114
01:11:41.159 --> 01:11:46.359
terms of like communication wise, usually I mean a whistle

1115
01:11:46.399 --> 01:11:51.640
at me and stuff like that, but nothing, it's usually

1116
01:11:51.680 --> 01:11:55.079
just like an like an acknowledging, like they like light

1117
01:11:55.159 --> 01:11:57.720
up one eye or something and just let me see them.

1118
01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:01.479
And then like they'll they'll just sort of go about

1119
01:12:01.479 --> 01:12:04.520
their business just sort of and I was, I'm saying,

1120
01:12:04.520 --> 01:12:10.319
I'm right here and sort of like you know, just

1121
01:12:10.319 --> 01:12:14.239
just to be respectful, I guess. And uh. But like

1122
01:12:14.399 --> 01:12:17.479
in terms of communication, you can sometimes hear them. They'll

1123
01:12:17.600 --> 01:12:21.479
argue with each other, but they'll never like communicate directly

1124
01:12:21.520 --> 01:12:24.239
with me. And that was the first time I since

1125
01:12:24.319 --> 01:12:27.000
like I saw her where I just said something to

1126
01:12:27.159 --> 01:12:32.159
one of them. And so but getting back to the bush,

1127
01:12:32.399 --> 01:12:35.359
like you like the like I he gave out the

1128
01:12:35.399 --> 01:12:38.439
tone and then he walked, there's a there's a log

1129
01:12:38.479 --> 01:12:41.640
along my fence. He walked out onto the log where

1130
01:12:41.680 --> 01:12:44.039
there was no branches like growing out of it and

1131
01:12:44.119 --> 01:12:46.399
I got to see them and like I was standing

1132
01:12:48.039 --> 01:12:49.960
six or seven feet from them, and he was just

1133
01:12:49.960 --> 01:12:54.760
like looked at me. And then it was what was

1134
01:12:54.840 --> 01:12:57.720
surprising was like he was all black. He was one

1135
01:12:57.760 --> 01:13:01.279
of the juveniles. And I'm pretty sure he's been living

1136
01:13:01.279 --> 01:13:07.359
off of my my nuts, like my handouts for this

1137
01:13:07.640 --> 01:13:11.640
entire time, and like I think I try to leave

1138
01:13:11.680 --> 01:13:15.920
them stuff, and so they'll they'll get nuts and they'll

1139
01:13:15.960 --> 01:13:19.000
come out on the roof and I'll watch YouTube videos

1140
01:13:19.079 --> 01:13:21.600
or something and they'll come up and just like get

1141
01:13:21.640 --> 01:13:29.720
in the window. They'll cloak. But uh yeah, there's like

1142
01:13:29.800 --> 01:13:33.119
there's I'll be six of them that I've seen and

1143
01:13:33.159 --> 01:13:38.199
I can get into that part too. But like the

1144
01:13:38.239 --> 01:13:44.840
communication stuff has been mostly just like like IY gestures,

1145
01:13:45.039 --> 01:13:47.359
like if they're mad at me, it's like a broken

1146
01:13:47.439 --> 01:13:50.960
two egg, they'll they'll throw it. But for the most part,

1147
01:13:51.079 --> 01:13:54.239
they if they're upset, they'll push over a tree or

1148
01:13:54.239 --> 01:13:58.439
something just let me know without like verbally saying anything.

1149
01:13:58.520 --> 01:14:02.399
But we haven't communicated directly. It was the first time

1150
01:14:02.439 --> 01:14:03.760
I just said something.

1151
01:14:05.479 --> 01:14:06.479
It's really interesting.

1152
01:14:07.560 --> 01:14:13.319
Yeah, But after that, after he stepped out, it was

1153
01:14:13.439 --> 01:14:20.159
like suddenly they weren't cloaked. They were like maybe they'll

1154
01:14:20.199 --> 01:14:22.359
have a little shade on them, like we'll have that

1155
01:14:22.399 --> 01:14:26.720
shadow to them and they'll like slink a round more

1156
01:14:26.760 --> 01:14:30.279
and they'll walk around more. But there's like, like the

1157
01:14:30.279 --> 01:14:35.359
the cloaking is pretty much stopped now, and like I

1158
01:14:35.359 --> 01:14:39.800
think they're they're just focused on like packing calories for

1159
01:14:39.800 --> 01:14:47.239
for winter now. But last winter. Oh, I got to

1160
01:14:47.279 --> 01:14:49.479
describe this guy. I can't just leave you hanging with that.

1161
01:14:50.159 --> 01:14:53.880
So the thing about like the other sad squatch I've

1162
01:14:53.880 --> 01:14:57.359
seen and like right about now, is like they shed

1163
01:14:57.399 --> 01:15:00.520
their fur and they start growing the new fur, and

1164
01:15:00.560 --> 01:15:03.199
it's usually probably like a like an inch inch and

1165
01:15:03.239 --> 01:15:07.279
a half long by now. Some of them are still

1166
01:15:07.359 --> 01:15:11.279
like bald, you know, it's got nothing on him, slower growing.

1167
01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:16.720
But this guy, he had the winter for and it

1168
01:15:16.800 --> 01:15:19.199
had kept growing, and so he had like this crazy

1169
01:15:19.600 --> 01:15:26.039
mop top looking like uh, Tina Turner, just just crazy

1170
01:15:26.119 --> 01:15:29.880
long like wiery hair like a chimpanzee, but like sticking

1171
01:15:29.920 --> 01:15:31.920
out straight. It wasn't laying down, It was like sticking

1172
01:15:31.920 --> 01:15:36.600
out straight like the sideways, but just like flared out

1173
01:15:36.600 --> 01:15:40.880
all around and like you know, black skinned, black eyes,

1174
01:15:41.199 --> 01:15:46.600
like all everything just totally black, like a like a

1175
01:15:46.600 --> 01:15:51.920
little black bigfoot. He looked at me, I looked at him,

1176
01:15:51.960 --> 01:15:53.920
and then he walked into the woods. But after that

1177
01:15:55.199 --> 01:15:57.239
I started seeing them all over the place because they

1178
01:15:57.239 --> 01:15:59.439
weren't like cloaked around me during the day. And so

1179
01:16:00.600 --> 01:16:04.600
when I was putting out nuts, I saw one across

1180
01:16:04.640 --> 01:16:12.880
this across the way looking at me, and like he

1181
01:16:12.960 --> 01:16:14.920
was just trying to hide and play insight and just

1182
01:16:14.960 --> 01:16:17.199
sort of see what I was just putting out for

1183
01:16:17.279 --> 01:16:21.199
the night. You know, it's just kids. It was a juvenile,

1184
01:16:21.319 --> 01:16:26.079
but like he had already knocked off his favorite branch

1185
01:16:26.159 --> 01:16:29.079
and the neighbor's like driveway. He knocked it clean off,

1186
01:16:29.079 --> 01:16:31.520
and it was a big branch, and I'm sure they

1187
01:16:31.560 --> 01:16:34.119
don't know what it is or what knocked down that branch,

1188
01:16:34.199 --> 01:16:38.039
but like he was in and like the one and

1189
01:16:38.239 --> 01:16:42.800
behind the fence, like just past that neighbor's driveway, and

1190
01:16:42.880 --> 01:16:45.680
he was just watching me. And at first I thought

1191
01:16:45.680 --> 01:16:47.319
it was my neighbor. I was like, why is the

1192
01:16:47.359 --> 01:16:49.000
neighbor watching me throughout nuts?

1193
01:16:49.560 --> 01:16:52.319
Big for society? Who would be right back after these messages?

1194
01:17:08.640 --> 01:17:11.119
Do I have to explain what's going on? Hope not?

1195
01:17:11.840 --> 01:17:13.760
And then I realized it was it was one of

1196
01:17:13.800 --> 01:17:16.680
them and then like just like a ghust, it just

1197
01:17:16.760 --> 01:17:20.720
like slides to the out of sight along the fence

1198
01:17:20.760 --> 01:17:23.760
line and then it tries to get away, but the

1199
01:17:23.800 --> 01:17:26.720
problem is it knocked over a bunch of recycling cancer.

1200
01:17:26.720 --> 01:17:30.800
It was super Lou had knocked over like the neighbors

1201
01:17:30.800 --> 01:17:33.079
like recycling and you just hear the candrol and all

1202
01:17:33.079 --> 01:17:37.880
over the side drive away and it was just a

1203
01:17:37.920 --> 01:17:40.840
little comical because he was like trying to be smooth

1204
01:17:40.840 --> 01:17:46.039
and and he just totally biffed it. But and then

1205
01:17:46.159 --> 01:17:53.079
like my wife had I finally we were like at

1206
01:17:53.119 --> 01:17:55.359
the table. We had just finished I think we had

1207
01:17:55.439 --> 01:18:00.600
lunch and it was like midday, and like right before

1208
01:18:00.640 --> 01:18:06.760
she came in into the little dining room, I had

1209
01:18:06.760 --> 01:18:12.479
the window open. I heard like like I think it

1210
01:18:12.520 --> 01:18:17.039
was two solid raps with a little switch a branch

1211
01:18:17.159 --> 01:18:19.600
on on my fence, like just the fence post. It

1212
01:18:19.680 --> 01:18:24.399
was like wap wap, and then I heard like the

1213
01:18:24.399 --> 01:18:28.239
big female start to move and then like nothing. So

1214
01:18:28.359 --> 01:18:32.079
then my wife comes in. She sits down, we're chatting

1215
01:18:32.760 --> 01:18:38.399
and like reading her lunch, and then I I like,

1216
01:18:38.399 --> 01:18:41.239
like a minute later, there's like a juvenile I got

1217
01:18:41.239 --> 01:18:46.359
the full shot side view of a juvenile and like

1218
01:18:48.479 --> 01:18:50.560
it looks like any other ten year old kid except

1219
01:18:50.600 --> 01:18:53.720
for the little bump, and I think that might be

1220
01:18:53.880 --> 01:18:56.359
I might have seen the satchettle ridge finally, but like

1221
01:18:56.960 --> 01:19:00.880
the way the neck rested on the on the on

1222
01:19:00.920 --> 01:19:05.239
the skull, it just looked like like Neanderthal or like

1223
01:19:05.239 --> 01:19:09.760
a sort of like it had like a big back

1224
01:19:10.760 --> 01:19:13.840
part of the skull, but like most like Europeans, they'll

1225
01:19:13.880 --> 01:19:17.479
have like a more much flatter back part of their skulls,

1226
01:19:17.600 --> 01:19:23.800
much less pronounced, except for like the Hungarians. But this, uh,

1227
01:19:24.800 --> 01:19:29.039
it had a really long like backside of the skull,

1228
01:19:29.840 --> 01:19:32.079
like just like just like Neanderthal. It was like a

1229
01:19:32.119 --> 01:19:38.720
long skull, uh, you know, the the the heavy brow line.

1230
01:19:39.239 --> 01:19:44.119
But then the nose was like modern looking and like

1231
01:19:44.199 --> 01:19:46.600
the cheeks were full, and it just looked like a

1232
01:19:47.119 --> 01:19:50.239
like a ten year old kid but he's just going

1233
01:19:50.239 --> 01:19:52.560
to see what Mono was doing. But like his skin

1234
01:19:52.680 --> 01:19:54.640
was like bald. There was no hair on him at all.

1235
01:19:55.720 --> 01:19:58.199
It was just just a little bit of a cone

1236
01:19:58.479 --> 01:20:01.399
on the head and like maybe like like an inch

1237
01:20:01.439 --> 01:20:04.520
and a half off the off the base of the head,

1238
01:20:04.840 --> 01:20:07.680
not very big, but like just just a little bit

1239
01:20:08.039 --> 01:20:12.840
poking off the top and like I said to my wife, locking, Okay, look, look, look,

1240
01:20:13.520 --> 01:20:15.880
and she's like looking around, she's not seen anything all

1241
01:20:15.920 --> 01:20:18.760
of a sudden, like he's just passes by, and then

1242
01:20:18.800 --> 01:20:21.199
she finally catches the backside of him as he's moving

1243
01:20:21.199 --> 01:20:26.239
through the woods and she finally got to see a

1244
01:20:26.279 --> 01:20:30.239
little bigfoot like slinking through the woods going to see

1245
01:20:30.239 --> 01:20:34.000
what mom wants, and like it was like you know,

1246
01:20:34.079 --> 01:20:37.560
and you're just like it's like vindication. It just felt

1247
01:20:37.720 --> 01:20:41.680
so good to just finally have that moment where she

1248
01:20:41.800 --> 01:20:43.960
was always just like sort of blowing me off about

1249
01:20:43.960 --> 01:20:45.760
the whole thing and being on the fence, and then

1250
01:20:46.159 --> 01:20:49.760
now she had to be she had to acknowledge it.

1251
01:20:50.119 --> 01:20:54.239
Because that was the first time she's she's seen one.

1252
01:20:54.439 --> 01:21:02.800
Correct, Yeah, actually seeing and like and like even still

1253
01:21:03.840 --> 01:21:06.159
I think I think pride is like, you know, he

1254
01:21:06.279 --> 01:21:07.960
kicks in, you know, she doesn't want to us, Like

1255
01:21:08.159 --> 01:21:10.479
are you still talking about that? I'm just like I

1256
01:21:10.479 --> 01:21:13.239
can't get over how I got you to see a

1257
01:21:13.239 --> 01:21:18.960
big foot whatever, ma, But it just it just felt

1258
01:21:19.039 --> 01:21:25.560
so good. Like but just a lot of that stuff

1259
01:21:25.600 --> 01:21:31.920
has just been like crazy, like the moods changed beforehand.

1260
01:21:32.840 --> 01:21:37.359
I mean, I can get into the other stuff that

1261
01:21:37.439 --> 01:21:42.359
I need to talk about. I know beforehand, the the

1262
01:21:42.439 --> 01:21:47.479
mother had I kept making eye contacts, like when at

1263
01:21:47.560 --> 01:21:50.479
night she would go at the beginning of the summer,

1264
01:21:50.640 --> 01:21:53.000
she would go out, get up into one of the

1265
01:21:53.000 --> 01:21:57.800
trees and start looking for deer, and like I would

1266
01:21:58.239 --> 01:22:02.399
be looking out the window and I like see a

1267
01:22:02.479 --> 01:22:05.159
light here and there, and like try not to look

1268
01:22:05.199 --> 01:22:08.680
at it and stuff. But they get so mad because

1269
01:22:08.720 --> 01:22:11.520
they're they're trying so hard to focus on what they're doing,

1270
01:22:11.560 --> 01:22:15.560
and they gotta scan when they're when they're looking for animals,

1271
01:22:15.600 --> 01:22:19.319
they gotta scan and gott methodical and they're it's not

1272
01:22:19.479 --> 01:22:22.520
like us where we're like peripheral and like we're just

1273
01:22:22.520 --> 01:22:26.600
like there it is and just like we're just like

1274
01:22:26.960 --> 01:22:29.720
we shoot arrows and throw spears and stuff, so we

1275
01:22:29.920 --> 01:22:35.960
like pinpoint peripherally, like like they have to like like

1276
01:22:37.039 --> 01:22:41.000
meticulously like scan left or right and like like a

1277
01:22:41.239 --> 01:22:44.319
like a like like it's radar or something like just

1278
01:22:44.760 --> 01:22:46.439
they'll do it real slow and they'll just do it

1279
01:22:46.439 --> 01:22:49.479
the same way back and forth until they see something.

1280
01:22:50.600 --> 01:22:53.960
And uh, but it's they get so mad because like

1281
01:22:54.960 --> 01:22:59.159
I I pop out and I just like immediately pinpoint

1282
01:22:59.199 --> 01:23:01.680
on them and look at them, and I just sort

1283
01:23:01.680 --> 01:23:05.119
of break their concentration, and like when they get mad,

1284
01:23:05.159 --> 01:23:08.880
they sort of like give like a little and then

1285
01:23:08.920 --> 01:23:13.079
like they just shake their head and rage and like

1286
01:23:13.079 --> 01:23:18.119
like just like like big big head shakes and the

1287
01:23:18.319 --> 01:23:21.359
rock back and their head shake in their heads and

1288
01:23:21.399 --> 01:23:25.359
then like the climb down or whatever and then just

1289
01:23:25.359 --> 01:23:29.439
get mad. But this time I did it. I didn't know.

1290
01:23:29.479 --> 01:23:31.840
I wasna I sort of like fell asleep in the

1291
01:23:32.319 --> 01:23:34.479
guest bedroom and it was facing the backside of the

1292
01:23:34.520 --> 01:23:39.279
house and I had woke up about like two in

1293
01:23:39.319 --> 01:23:42.600
the morning. I just woke up, sat up for a second.

1294
01:23:42.680 --> 01:23:45.119
The blinds are open, and I'm just like looking and

1295
01:23:45.159 --> 01:23:48.880
I see, you know, I'm just looking around. I'm so tired,

1296
01:23:49.119 --> 01:23:52.680
and like look over, I see like this glowing light

1297
01:23:52.760 --> 01:23:56.560
and I'm like it's it's flickering. I'm like, oh my gosh.

1298
01:23:56.680 --> 01:23:59.600
I'm like, I hope something's not on fire. I thought

1299
01:23:59.600 --> 01:24:02.520
it was a and so I look over and I'm

1300
01:24:02.560 --> 01:24:05.840
looking at it harder, and then I see the two

1301
01:24:06.159 --> 01:24:12.880
the two well, it looks like it starts to like

1302
01:24:13.239 --> 01:24:14.880
flicker and it looked like it was on a tree.

1303
01:24:14.920 --> 01:24:16.680
I was like, oh my gosh, I thought it was

1304
01:24:16.720 --> 01:24:18.840
one of the schools around fire or something, and I

1305
01:24:18.880 --> 01:24:20.960
was like, oh, am, I supposed to I need to

1306
01:24:20.960 --> 01:24:22.760
call nine one one. I'm looking at it and it

1307
01:24:23.720 --> 01:24:25.920
and then all of a sudden, I don't see it anymore.

1308
01:24:26.000 --> 01:24:28.079
And then I see it again and it looks like headlights.

1309
01:24:28.119 --> 01:24:30.159
I'm like, oh, oh, it was just a car. I

1310
01:24:30.159 --> 01:24:34.840
guess car up a tree. No, that doesn't make sense. Oh,

1311
01:24:35.159 --> 01:24:39.039
it's it's the female. I don't know better. I'll just

1312
01:24:39.039 --> 01:24:44.640
stopped looking and so, but she was. She was crossing fields,

1313
01:24:45.279 --> 01:24:50.119
swinging between trees, jumping on rooflines, making a bee line

1314
01:24:50.119 --> 01:24:53.560
straight for me. She was so mad at uh and

1315
01:24:53.680 --> 01:24:56.680
like I'm lying down, I'm looking up and and like

1316
01:24:57.640 --> 01:25:00.840
there's like red light juice like flick on the wall,

1317
01:25:01.000 --> 01:25:03.800
and like the all the brush between me and her.

1318
01:25:04.319 --> 01:25:06.399
She was probably like a mile out and she was

1319
01:25:06.640 --> 01:25:09.680
covering ground. It was just like you just see it,

1320
01:25:09.760 --> 01:25:13.239
like bobbing as she was like moving straight for me.

1321
01:25:13.920 --> 01:25:19.359
And I look again and it's her and like she

1322
01:25:19.359 --> 01:25:23.399
she beams me, and like like my eyes just fill

1323
01:25:23.479 --> 01:25:27.279
up with like this red red light and like I

1324
01:25:27.399 --> 01:25:30.079
like I'm starting to feel like the energy like just

1325
01:25:30.119 --> 01:25:35.239
like bouncing around inside my like I eyeball like like it.

1326
01:25:36.000 --> 01:25:39.239
I felt the heat on my skin, like it was different.

1327
01:25:39.319 --> 01:25:42.000
It was different than their like normal light passive light

1328
01:25:42.079 --> 01:25:46.279
where you just maybe it's reflected. This was like they

1329
01:25:46.319 --> 01:25:50.119
were emitting a light and it was like warm, and

1330
01:25:50.159 --> 01:25:53.279
I could feel the heat in my eyeball and I

1331
01:25:53.319 --> 01:25:55.960
was starting to see red around everything, and it was

1332
01:25:55.960 --> 01:25:59.279
starting to get intense and it was starting to I

1333
01:25:59.319 --> 01:26:02.000
was it was starting. I was starting to only see red.

1334
01:26:02.039 --> 01:26:04.960
So I looked away as much as I could, and

1335
01:26:05.079 --> 01:26:08.279
I just decided, like I need to disengage. I'm just

1336
01:26:08.680 --> 01:26:12.279
close my eyes and just go lay down. Just lay

1337
01:26:12.319 --> 01:26:17.760
down and like not like escalate this any further. And

1338
01:26:17.920 --> 01:26:21.159
like I heard her finally like get to the to

1339
01:26:21.199 --> 01:26:25.079
the floorst behind the house, and she's like moving through

1340
01:26:25.119 --> 01:26:27.239
and I just hear her like creeping and just looking

1341
01:26:28.199 --> 01:26:30.600
waiting for me to like pop my eyes open and

1342
01:26:30.800 --> 01:26:33.239
just look at her. And like I knew just to

1343
01:26:33.359 --> 01:26:39.039
just go to sleep and it'll be fine. And it was,

1344
01:26:39.479 --> 01:26:46.119
but like she anytime I would like like look around,

1345
01:26:46.199 --> 01:26:49.880
I just see her like just get really aggressive and

1346
01:26:49.960 --> 01:26:53.319
like just like follow me in the in the brush.

1347
01:26:53.399 --> 01:26:55.479
If I sat down, she'd like look and I could

1348
01:26:55.520 --> 01:26:57.840
see her eyes without the light on, but like she'd

1349
01:26:57.880 --> 01:27:00.000
look at me make sure I'm not doing anything funny,

1350
01:27:00.720 --> 01:27:04.720
and like like the ISRN was on me for like

1351
01:27:04.800 --> 01:27:08.640
a good while. So finally now after she had that baby,

1352
01:27:08.720 --> 01:27:13.000
it's been like super mellow. I think she's just in

1353
01:27:13.039 --> 01:27:16.479
a good mood. But like I haven't had any problems

1354
01:27:16.560 --> 01:27:20.119
where just everything's just smoth and like smooth as butter.

1355
01:27:20.199 --> 01:27:23.560
And I've learned to just not like see that's like

1356
01:27:23.560 --> 01:27:25.720
like if I see it in my periphieal, don't look

1357
01:27:25.760 --> 01:27:28.439
at it. Just focus on what I'm doing. I look

1358
01:27:28.479 --> 01:27:33.000
at the light like a glance over for a second,

1359
01:27:33.000 --> 01:27:34.800
but I don't look back, you know. I just let

1360
01:27:34.840 --> 01:27:38.840
her do her thing and just sort of like try

1361
01:27:38.880 --> 01:27:43.840
to stay in my lane. But they get they get

1362
01:27:43.880 --> 01:27:46.000
really frustrated when you're like looking at them while they're

1363
01:27:46.039 --> 01:27:53.800
trying to do their thing. The I mean, I could

1364
01:27:54.079 --> 01:27:57.720
speculate Nick maybe it's like like an add thing or

1365
01:27:57.760 --> 01:28:00.960
something like they just they're wired for that and like

1366
01:28:01.720 --> 01:28:04.600
that's what works for them, and like that might explain

1367
01:28:04.680 --> 01:28:07.079
why like some people have add these days. It's just

1368
01:28:07.079 --> 01:28:10.560
like some throwback mindset that actually worked in like the

1369
01:28:10.560 --> 01:28:20.439
wild that kept us alive. But it's been uh like

1370
01:28:21.159 --> 01:28:23.520
just a matter of like really just like trying to

1371
01:28:23.680 --> 01:28:27.119
like respect their boundaries while they try to respect mine.

1372
01:28:27.920 --> 01:28:38.960
And like another time previous to that was like well

1373
01:28:38.960 --> 01:28:41.479
this is this was I think this was. I can

1374
01:28:41.560 --> 01:28:48.479
get into the coyote story, that's a good one, but

1375
01:28:49.720 --> 01:28:52.039
I think it was just after New Year's I think, uh,

1376
01:28:53.279 --> 01:28:56.600
there had just been like a really hard like ice

1377
01:28:56.600 --> 01:28:59.640
storm that like I've blown through uh west Land, and

1378
01:28:59.720 --> 01:29:02.720
like there was like patches of snow on the ground,

1379
01:29:02.760 --> 01:29:05.279
but like there was just like a biting, like a

1380
01:29:05.359 --> 01:29:11.279
cold wind like blowing through constantly, and like most of

1381
01:29:10.520 --> 01:29:13.520
the snow had melted off from like that ice storm,

1382
01:29:13.560 --> 01:29:16.439
but they were still like patches, so I could see

1383
01:29:16.560 --> 01:29:20.199
like parts of the forest. And when they're the juveniles

1384
01:29:20.199 --> 01:29:22.279
were running through, I could see them a little better

1385
01:29:22.640 --> 01:29:26.720
because they were backlit by the snow. And it was

1386
01:29:26.800 --> 01:29:28.800
I think it was a might've been a full moon,

1387
01:29:29.079 --> 01:29:33.960
because a pack of coyotes had been like howling that

1388
01:29:33.960 --> 01:29:37.520
that night, and like so they got quiet and I'm

1389
01:29:37.560 --> 01:29:44.560
like I'm hearing I can sort of I'm like hearing

1390
01:29:44.640 --> 01:29:47.800
stuff and I'm like sitting on a being bag. I'm

1391
01:29:47.840 --> 01:29:51.319
just uh in the in the breath in my back room,

1392
01:29:51.439 --> 01:29:54.520
just like listening and ill asleep for a second and

1393
01:29:54.640 --> 01:29:57.359
I woke up and I heard that the yowls of

1394
01:29:57.439 --> 01:30:02.039
like a whole pack of like coyotes and they were

1395
01:30:02.079 --> 01:30:05.399
like right over the fence and like right in the bushes,

1396
01:30:05.960 --> 01:30:08.119
and I like get up. I'm like, oh my gosh,

1397
01:30:09.159 --> 01:30:13.399
like like a rabbit pack of coyotes just like just

1398
01:30:14.199 --> 01:30:17.920
thrashing around. And like when it happened is the big

1399
01:30:18.000 --> 01:30:20.560
male had gotten all the coyotes to get on him,

1400
01:30:20.840 --> 01:30:23.520
and like you could hear him like like running through

1401
01:30:23.520 --> 01:30:27.800
the woods and just grabbing them, and like he's just

1402
01:30:28.920 --> 01:30:32.039
thrashing around back and forth, and like he's got he's

1403
01:30:32.079 --> 01:30:36.439
got like that that black like shade up so I

1404
01:30:36.479 --> 01:30:39.600
can't see anything, but like I got the window open.

1405
01:30:40.199 --> 01:30:42.359
I'm just listening to this whole thing I got. I'm

1406
01:30:42.359 --> 01:30:45.880
like like nose against the window just like oh my gosh,

1407
01:30:46.760 --> 01:30:49.960
and like I'm listening to this all this like like

1408
01:30:50.039 --> 01:30:53.279
as each coyote is like getting crushed and then like

1409
01:30:53.760 --> 01:30:58.279
here the yops like and they're just like melting off

1410
01:30:58.359 --> 01:31:01.279
one by one and then like the the group would

1411
01:31:01.279 --> 01:31:05.680
like like like get them and like bring them back

1412
01:31:05.720 --> 01:31:08.279
and then like just like one by one, just like

1413
01:31:08.279 --> 01:31:10.159
like they would melt off and then like you'd hear

1414
01:31:10.199 --> 01:31:13.239
another one just like catch them and like snap their

1415
01:31:13.279 --> 01:31:16.680
neck or whatever, and then they could I don't know

1416
01:31:16.680 --> 01:31:19.760
how many coyotes were there, but there was a lot there.

1417
01:31:19.800 --> 01:31:21.760
Had there been more than a baker's dozen. I mean,

1418
01:31:21.800 --> 01:31:25.960
they could have been like twenty of them. It was

1419
01:31:26.000 --> 01:31:29.640
a lot, and like they were just within like forty

1420
01:31:29.640 --> 01:31:33.119
five seconds, the entire like pack was was dead, was

1421
01:31:33.199 --> 01:31:38.800
done and wiped out. And I haven't seen any coyotes since,

1422
01:31:40.479 --> 01:31:47.920
no sign, no poop, nothing like that. And but I

1423
01:31:47.920 --> 01:31:54.119
could hear like I was just like looking and just

1424
01:31:54.199 --> 01:31:56.800
trying to like see what's going on as I go

1425
01:31:56.840 --> 01:31:59.560
to the the other window, see if I can get

1426
01:31:59.560 --> 01:32:01.319
a better hang the boot at what's going on, And

1427
01:32:01.359 --> 01:32:04.520
like the snow is back lit, and the juveniles start

1428
01:32:04.600 --> 01:32:07.319
noticing I'm watching, and so then they come come out

1429
01:32:07.640 --> 01:32:10.560
like they're gesturing back to dad or whatever. And I

1430
01:32:10.560 --> 01:32:13.960
can hear him just like smacking on coyote. You just

1431
01:32:14.000 --> 01:32:16.039
hear him like hitting chewing the meat, and it's just

1432
01:32:16.079 --> 01:32:23.720
like just like just really getting down and like midwinter

1433
01:32:23.920 --> 01:32:27.359
probably I bet that was a welcome meal for them.

1434
01:32:27.439 --> 01:32:33.079
But yeah, and I'm just listening to it, and all

1435
01:32:33.119 --> 01:32:38.760
of a sudden, Uh, there's about six juveniles and they're

1436
01:32:38.760 --> 01:32:41.720
all like the puffed out their the hair is about

1437
01:32:42.119 --> 01:32:44.640
three inches long or something that they look like poofballs

1438
01:32:45.079 --> 01:32:51.479
that little cones maybe like three four inches long, not

1439
01:32:51.600 --> 01:32:56.239
very big. But their eyes are glowing and they're back

1440
01:32:56.239 --> 01:32:59.800
lit by the snow, and they're all just like like

1441
01:32:59.800 --> 01:33:05.920
looking back and the dad and like and like they're

1442
01:33:05.920 --> 01:33:08.760
looking at me, and then like they're all dancing around

1443
01:33:08.920 --> 01:33:11.000
or just like I could just see all of them

1444
01:33:11.159 --> 01:33:13.399
like right there and they're like just maybe like ten

1445
01:33:13.439 --> 01:33:16.720
feet and uh, they're all looking and I. And then

1446
01:33:16.760 --> 01:33:18.640
I got the window open and I'm like sort of

1447
01:33:18.680 --> 01:33:22.560
pressed against like the window screen and like trying to

1448
01:33:22.680 --> 01:33:26.199
like see if I can see something. And all of

1449
01:33:26.199 --> 01:33:29.039
a sudden, I just hear the the smack you stop

1450
01:33:29.840 --> 01:33:32.119
because you know, just like the kids aren't eating the food.

1451
01:33:33.079 --> 01:33:34.520
And so then all of a sudden, I hear a

1452
01:33:34.600 --> 01:33:38.840
stump and then like a stomp stomp stomp, stump stops

1453
01:33:38.880 --> 01:33:41.079
up and he starts to run like he's starting to

1454
01:33:41.119 --> 01:33:44.159
book it at me. I'm like, okay, so I turn

1455
01:33:44.239 --> 01:33:51.560
around and I uh I just uh just disengage. But

1456
01:33:51.800 --> 01:33:55.359
like ever since then, like like that, that's like that's

1457
01:33:55.359 --> 01:33:57.680
what happened. So like by the time you get to

1458
01:33:57.720 --> 01:34:00.319
the story with the female, like the the eye eyes

1459
01:34:00.359 --> 01:34:03.119
and all that stuff, it's just like it's been a

1460
01:34:03.119 --> 01:34:06.199
little like touch and go for the most part. But

1461
01:34:06.359 --> 01:34:10.800
those those those six little like juveniles, they'll they'll come

1462
01:34:10.880 --> 01:34:13.600
right up to the window and they'll be cloaked but

1463
01:34:13.640 --> 01:34:16.000
don't know they're there because like their eyes will catch

1464
01:34:16.039 --> 01:34:19.239
the shine. But they've been entertained by me this entire time,

1465
01:34:19.680 --> 01:34:21.359
and so a lot of all I've been trying to

1466
01:34:21.399 --> 01:34:25.640
do is like I know, like if there's some animosity

1467
01:34:25.680 --> 01:34:35.319
towards me, uh oh wow, we've got an eye shine.

1468
01:34:35.479 --> 01:34:41.479
One of them was watching me. That's cool. Yeah, I

1469
01:34:41.560 --> 01:34:45.760
know that, Like they're gonna get bigger, and I'd rather

1470
01:34:45.880 --> 01:34:50.640
have like six of them in my quarter instead of

1471
01:34:50.760 --> 01:34:53.920
like all of them pissed at me. So I've been

1472
01:34:54.000 --> 01:34:56.920
just like throwing nuts out like you guys like peacons,

1473
01:34:57.560 --> 01:35:00.279
you know. And so they they they'll come up, they'll

1474
01:35:00.279 --> 01:35:04.199
watch they'll watch YouTube. They'll be smacking on nuts and

1475
01:35:04.319 --> 01:35:06.199
like you could hear them like cracking the shelves, and

1476
01:35:06.279 --> 01:35:08.920
like the almonds, you can hear them like split them

1477
01:35:08.920 --> 01:35:11.319
in half as they are like true anoy and they'll

1478
01:35:11.359 --> 01:35:13.520
just get their back right right up against the wall

1479
01:35:14.359 --> 01:35:18.760
and there's like a little roofline that there's like cuts

1480
01:35:18.800 --> 01:35:21.960
down right below the window, and so they'll they'll just

1481
01:35:22.000 --> 01:35:24.680
be hanging out right there. And uh, just the other

1482
01:35:24.760 --> 01:35:28.319
day they were sort of I kind an eye flash

1483
01:35:28.359 --> 01:35:30.239
and I realized there's like all four of them were

1484
01:35:30.239 --> 01:35:33.720
like pressed against the glass watching me hang out on

1485
01:35:33.760 --> 01:35:37.079
the computer. And like sometimes when they when they want

1486
01:35:37.079 --> 01:35:39.199
I think, when they want a little more or they

1487
01:35:39.199 --> 01:35:42.239
don't know what I'm what I'm doing, they'll they'll one

1488
01:35:42.319 --> 01:35:44.399
or two from the back will be like we'll give

1489
01:35:44.479 --> 01:35:49.560
like a and like we'll give a little who sounds

1490
01:35:49.560 --> 01:35:52.960
of like hearing what I'm doing and like or just

1491
01:35:53.000 --> 01:35:55.600
they want to know what's what's going on, And that

1492
01:35:55.680 --> 01:35:57.800
tells me like someone else is watching me right now.

1493
01:35:57.960 --> 01:36:00.439
So I just learned to just like well with it

1494
01:36:00.520 --> 01:36:07.000
and just accept that they're just curious. And so yeah,

1495
01:36:07.720 --> 01:36:11.000
a lot of things, Oh like this will lead into

1496
01:36:11.039 --> 01:36:15.960
another part. I had put out one of those like

1497
01:36:15.960 --> 01:36:18.039
you know, you get those rotistory chickens from the store.

1498
01:36:18.560 --> 01:36:21.119
I like pulled off all the parts and I took

1499
01:36:21.199 --> 01:36:23.560
the carcass and I just threw it out there with

1500
01:36:23.640 --> 01:36:26.039
all the peanuts, and like I guess they got into

1501
01:36:26.079 --> 01:36:31.960
that and like this this was like there are four

1502
01:36:32.039 --> 01:36:34.199
days to go. But like then all of a sudden,

1503
01:36:34.239 --> 01:36:36.399
I just hear all of them given pigeon calls. Like

1504
01:36:36.520 --> 01:36:38.399
I think there was about four or five of them

1505
01:36:38.479 --> 01:36:40.319
trying to call and a flock of pigeons because they

1506
01:36:40.359 --> 01:36:42.479
were like they got tasted that bird meet and they

1507
01:36:42.520 --> 01:36:45.880
wanted more, and so they were just trying to like

1508
01:36:46.560 --> 01:36:50.600
calling a bird. But it's like, like I said, it's

1509
01:36:50.640 --> 01:36:53.640
just like it's a carnage and then it's magic. And

1510
01:36:53.880 --> 01:36:59.079
like I just I don't know, man, Like I don't

1511
01:36:59.119 --> 01:37:02.680
know how I feel. But if you ever wanted to.

1512
01:37:02.760 --> 01:37:06.720
Come, I was just gonna I was just gonna mention it.

1513
01:37:06.760 --> 01:37:10.640
It's really interesting to look at your entire story and

1514
01:37:10.760 --> 01:37:15.319
see where you've come from, which what happened in Alaska

1515
01:37:15.560 --> 01:37:20.680
was very traumatic for you, and then what's happening current day,

1516
01:37:20.800 --> 01:37:25.079
Like there's some really cool stuff happening and and you're

1517
01:37:25.119 --> 01:37:32.520
definitely able to, you know, slowly, you know, move into

1518
01:37:32.560 --> 01:37:37.920
a different type of relationship, it seems with them down

1519
01:37:38.119 --> 01:37:39.720
in your area, which is really cool.

1520
01:37:41.479 --> 01:37:43.399
Yeah, I think I think a lot of I think

1521
01:37:43.399 --> 01:37:45.239
a lot of people when you hear the stories and

1522
01:37:45.279 --> 01:37:48.039
then talk about it, they'll have only a handful of experiences,

1523
01:37:48.079 --> 01:37:50.760
but they don't get, you know, a second chance to

1524
01:37:50.960 --> 01:37:55.399
just really like interact again. And like they'll they'll have

1525
01:37:55.560 --> 01:37:58.479
like this because it's so traumatic, they'll have like this

1526
01:37:58.600 --> 01:38:03.239
start look on it when it maybe it wasn't as

1527
01:38:03.319 --> 01:38:06.960
dark as they thought, you know, and like it's like

1528
01:38:07.520 --> 01:38:11.600
to us, like you know, peeking in somebody's window, that's

1529
01:38:11.600 --> 01:38:14.680
being a creek. But to them, they're just curious. They

1530
01:38:14.680 --> 01:38:17.039
don't they don't know those boundaries because if they if

1531
01:38:17.079 --> 01:38:20.199
they didn't like you, you just like you wouldn't be

1532
01:38:20.239 --> 01:38:24.880
around to like really like say, oh that was a

1533
01:38:24.920 --> 01:38:27.520
bad experience that they would just get you, you know,

1534
01:38:28.239 --> 01:38:30.840
and if you're so alive after that experience, it's just

1535
01:38:30.960 --> 01:38:35.840
like take it as is. You know. Sometimes it's a warning,

1536
01:38:35.880 --> 01:38:38.920
but sometimes it's it's more positive than you realize. And

1537
01:38:40.800 --> 01:38:45.239
but yeah, it's like you got like I got to

1538
01:38:45.279 --> 01:38:49.560
remind myself that like it's it's like it's just it's

1539
01:38:49.680 --> 01:38:53.039
just business, you know, a lot of it is just business.

1540
01:38:54.399 --> 01:38:54.800
Mm hmm.

1541
01:38:55.399 --> 01:38:59.520
That's that's very interesting, Josh has been. It's been uh,

1542
01:38:59.760 --> 01:39:03.119
really insightful to hear from you again and to talk

1543
01:39:03.119 --> 01:39:06.560
to you again and hear about what is currently going

1544
01:39:06.600 --> 01:39:10.239
on over there with you on the on the coast.

1545
01:39:10.279 --> 01:39:14.439
But thank you so much for coming back on the

1546
01:39:14.479 --> 01:39:17.600
show and and for hanging out again. We'll be seeing

1547
01:39:17.640 --> 01:39:24.079
you next summer back in Oakridge if all goes right

1548
01:39:24.199 --> 01:39:26.920
for both of us, should be seeing you there. So

1549
01:39:27.600 --> 01:39:29.760
but for sure, thanks again, man.

1550
01:39:30.600 --> 01:39:33.399
Yep, and just remember just just keep being keep banging

1551
01:39:33.399 --> 01:39:36.920
the drum. A lot of a lot of skeptics are

1552
01:39:36.960 --> 01:39:39.520
just skeptics, and they're always going to be skeptics. But

1553
01:39:39.680 --> 01:39:42.960
there's a lot of people. Most people aren't going to

1554
01:39:43.039 --> 01:39:45.680
be persuaded by facts or knowledge. They're going to be

1555
01:39:45.720 --> 01:39:49.479
persuaded by the crowd. You just got enough people on

1556
01:39:49.600 --> 01:39:52.760
board and those people will flip over and suddenly the

1557
01:39:52.760 --> 01:39:58.000
skeptics just go away. And just it's about being a

1558
01:39:58.000 --> 01:39:59.920
lot of it's about banging the drum more so than

1559
01:40:00.119 --> 01:40:02.840
like how much evidence you can bring to the table.

1560
01:40:05.479 --> 01:40:09.680
I mean, you look at the colossal squid or gorillas

1561
01:40:09.680 --> 01:40:11.359
for that matter. It took a hundred years for them

1562
01:40:11.439 --> 01:40:15.119
to acknowledge gorillas, but here we are, you know, so

1563
01:40:16.720 --> 01:40:20.119
just keep doing what you're doing. You're doing good work

1564
01:40:20.159 --> 01:40:21.960
and I appreciate the show.

1565
01:40:22.560 --> 01:40:25.319
Please take a minute to help out the show by

1566
01:40:25.479 --> 01:40:28.920
subscribing on YouTube, making sure you hit the bell so

1567
01:40:28.960 --> 01:40:32.479
you don't miss any notifications, and share the episode on

1568
01:40:32.560 --> 01:40:35.479
YouTube with a friend. Also, if you're listening to us

1569
01:40:35.600 --> 01:40:38.800
on a podcast, thank you so much, make sure that

1570
01:40:38.840 --> 01:40:43.079
you're subscribed, share the show with a friend. Really, it's

1571
01:40:43.079 --> 01:40:46.279
all about sharing the show wherever you can. If you've

1572
01:40:46.279 --> 01:40:49.159
had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following, or know

1573
01:40:49.359 --> 01:40:53.439
someone who has, please reach out to me at Bigfoot

1574
01:40:53.479 --> 01:40:56.920
Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email.

1575
01:40:57.720 --> 01:41:00.239
Here's the list. If you've had any encounter, there's an

1576
01:41:00.359 --> 01:41:02.680
organ which I'm sure there's probably a few of you

1577
01:41:02.720 --> 01:41:05.840
out there, Please feel free to reach out immediately. You

1578
01:41:05.880 --> 01:41:09.399
can use email Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. A

1579
01:41:09.439 --> 01:41:12.760
special thank you to all the big Foot Society, Patreon

1580
01:41:12.920 --> 01:41:15.880
and YouTube channel members. It's your support that helps keep

1581
01:41:15.880 --> 01:41:19.960
the show going and I extremely appreciate it. If you

1582
01:41:20.000 --> 01:41:23.119
want to join in the fun, you can join over

1583
01:41:23.119 --> 01:41:25.479
at Patreon dot com forward slash the big Foot Society.

1584
01:41:26.479 --> 01:41:30.079
I'll see you there and again, thanks for listening.

1585
01:42:17.399 --> 01:42:18.880
Her and I can get on here, we can tell

1586
01:42:18.880 --> 01:42:22.199
our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out there listening that's

1587
01:42:22.239 --> 01:42:25.159
too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give

1588
01:42:25.199 --> 01:42:27.920
them the courage to come out and now feels so

1589
01:42:28.079 --> 01:42:31.159
bad about it. Who cares what anybody thinks. I know

1590
01:42:31.239 --> 01:42:34.439
what I saw, I know what's out there. That's all

1591
01:42:34.479 --> 01:42:54.479
I care about. Please let people know, Please let them know.

1592
01:42:54.760 --> 01:42:57.479
If you ever see one of these things, you need

1593
01:42:57.600 --> 01:43:00.840
to tell because if you don't, and shame on you,

1594
01:43:01.239 --> 01:43:02.840
you know, shame on you,