Bigfoot Zapped Her Mind — What Happened Next is Insane! | Oregon

0:01 You're listening to Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. Tonight's account starts with a mother, a summer camp, and a whistle in the dark Oregon woods, and what followed was years of obsession and a terrifying proof that something is watching from the tree line with whistles, woodknocks, a van that turned into a panic room, and two massive creatures caught on camera. This is Carrie's account and it might be the most convincing one you've heard yet. So stay with us, all. Right, Big for Society, You've got the privilege of talking to Carrieville today. Carrie is from the group Lane County Bigfooters out there in Lane County, Oregon. I was able to meet Carrie at the Sasquatch Summerfest of twenty twenty four.

0:45 We had a great chat and I'm glad to finally get Carrie on the show. How are you doing today? I'm very good. Thank you, Jeremiah, Thank you very much for having me on the show. Absolutely, it's I do love talking to people about the Pacific Northwest. It's a lot of fun and I especially like Oregon. So, you know, Carrie, I would love to start things off by, you know, do you mind sharing what it was that first got you into you know, bigfoot reagions. Executor of bigfooting. Yeah, well I never had given it much of a second thought until we moved out here to Oregon and I was taking my kid to summer camp.

1:37 And I told this on another show at the museum out at fifty eight, like a couple months ago, so you could listen to it there also, so we'll see how similar the stories are. But I was taking my kid to summer camp. It was the end of summer in August twenty twelve, and he experiences multiple special needs diagnoses, and it was overnight camp, but he never made it one night overnight, so every night I had to come pick him up. The first night I came, they called me at like ten thirty at night, so I rolled in like eleven o'clock and they're all down at the campfire in the dark, you know, singing Kumbaya or whatever they're doing down there. And I have my binoculars, my mini van, and my coffee, and I opened the door and I'm stargazing and I start noticing out in the woods that something is whistling. And then I noticed there's two somethings whistling, and they're at different areas, and I listened to them for a while, and then, being kind of a smart halic, I whistled back in the same manner.

2:45 And then it was me creature A or whatever you know, creature B, and then me and then A and then B and then me trading these whistles, and pretty soon I noticed they were triangulating on me and getting closer. Pretty soon, I have one behind a cabin and one behind a bus bar, and I'm like, there's something out there, and it's not a bird, because the birds didn't follow me in, right, And so the campfire broke up. I grabbed my kid, and I'm a little freaked out, and I go home and I start googling, and I started googling what whistles at night? And I started getting a whole bunch of hits on the female bigfoot that whistles to lure children into the woods. Now, now, mind you, my kids at summer camp, like, do not go out in the woods with anything whistling at you, right, So the next couple nights I had to pick them up at dinner, and the last night of camp, I'm like, all right, kid, you were staying till the bitter end, because I want another shot at this. And so I pulled up again ten o'clock or so at night, opened my door, and immediately something started whistling, and this time there was only one so he whistled back and forth.

3:55 And from my little bit of research, I had figured out that they also knock. So I knocked twice. It knocked twice. I knocked three times. It knocked three times, and you know, mind blown, totally freaked out. There is something out there. And you know, I've told this story so much and I've thought about it so much that I don't have things in order anymore. Of which of the two nights, but one night I got zapped. I think it was the second night, you know, and people talk about being zapped, and this is the only experience I've ever had of this, and I had no idea what was going on, but all of a sudden, I was absolutely terrified. I slammed the door of my minivan and I literally cried on the floor of my minivan, just absolutely scared out of my mind. It snapped off instantly.

4:47 I opened the door, picked up my coffee, and carried on. It was so weird. And one of those times also there was a small tree pushed over and all of these things. Now I realized our very typical bigfoot behavior. But back then my mind was just blown at the whole concept and I couldn't wait to find out more. It was like intro to big footing one o one, you know. I mean, there was a little bit of everything in there, and it just I was intrigued and scared and very curious. So I called the BFRO. I think that's when like finding Bigfoot was real big and stuff.

5:28 And so I called the BFRO or contacted them, email whatever, and they sent a guy out and we went like trespassing behind the camp. It was on a river, so well I wanted it was behind there, you know, so we went, so don't tell anyone. So we went behind this camp and we went down the river, and you know, we didn't find Bigfoot, but we didn't also find homeless people. We didn't find growers, which at that time was illegal. We didn't find you know, evidence of people living back there or camping back there. We did find tons of deer poop, We did find all sorts of berry butchers and fruit trees, and we did find trails going through there with no cobwebs on them, and if you've ever been out in the woods in Oregon, there's cobwebs everywhere, which means something was using those trails. So it was it was a very interesting beginning to the whole experience.

6:30 And then a friend and we went out a couple more times along the river and had some more things happening, huffing and tree brakes and things of that sort. And then I got plant of fascy itis so bad I literally it could almost not walk for five years and that was the end of that. So that was that was my first year of big footing. I guess in twenty twelve. That is absolutely credible. I have so many questions just based off of that. My goodness. So, and are you able to I am really curious to hear. I don't know if you're able to try to do the whistle that you had heard that night.

7:20 Oh it's in my brain. It was it was like, oh man, okay, yeah. Just exactly like that. Okay, yeah, you know, not something that the bird would do necessarily had two tones to it, and it was repeated by both of them. Oh, my goodness. This is nuts. Okay, is it eastern Lane County? Is what was it in eastern Lane County? Oh? No, this was this was in August. Oh sorry, like the the location of of the camp. Was it in. The on the east? Yeah? No, no, no, this was actually in Lane County. Uh, outside of Eugene. It is not far out in the woods. But what it is is a natural crossing point to the river. And I do think they travel up and down the river because almost all of the property along the river is privately owned except for landings. So if you wanted to cruise down the river at night, no one would see you.

8:30 And I think they use that as a natural way to cross the Willamette Valley. Yeah, that makes that makes total sense. That so what you did is is very reminiscent of of what we encountered out in the woods around Oak Ridge. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, and how. Behavior you know? I know that now? Yeah I didn't know it then. Oh my goodness. So when you say because people describe being zapped sometimes a few different ways from what I got from you there, and you know, feel free. You definitely put more info if needed, But it sounds like you were really just like taken over with a certain emotion and then it left quickly.

9:28 Absolutely, it hit me out of the blue, and it left like turning off a you know, pushing a button and turning it off. It was absolute fluttering panic, absolute terror. I mean, I have been camping my whole life, I've been out in the woods, I've done all sorts of stupid things, and I've never been afraid like this. It was just out of the blue. I was literally lying on the floor crying, and that's just not something that I typically do, and it was weird. And then it just shut off instantly, and I sat up like nothing had happened, and opened the door back up and continued knocking, trading knocks with whatever was out in the woods. It was very bizarre. It's never happened again. And I've been in a lot of sketchy situations since then, which I'll tell you some about some of them. But that was the weirdest thing.

10:25 Okay, So that that is so interesting. I mean some people they'll say like, oh, yeah, you know, they start having migraines and you know, bloody noses and just really really you know, crazy things. That is different parts of the country as well, which could be an interesting twist to it. So then after that, I mean, is this the thing that I feel when I when I talk to people that are really into this, that you can there's there's a certain experience that really like pushes them over the edge. Is this the one where just like it pushed you way way over, like up to one hundred and ten percent. Yes, bigfoot is a real thing, and I don't know all No, this wasn't it Okay?

11:12 Actually okay, what it did was get me very interested in the subject. But like I said, I had planti fasciitis for five almost six years. I could barely walk. So eventually, you know, it's always been in the back of my mind since then. You know, what the heck happened out there? What impact is this going to have on my life? But I'm a single mom to a child with multiple special needs, and at that point, he was like nine years old. I did not have time, energy, or anything else to be really pursuing this as any sort of firm interest. I mean, it was until he was eighteen that I was actually able to get out in the woods by myself every weekend and have time to myself. So it in no way was a part of my life. I'd fooling around online and looking at things and you know, doing my own research, maybe some reading.

12:07 But what really got me back into it is I get a dog. I inherited my neighbor's dog when she died, and I wanted to be outside a little more again, time to myself. It's twenty eighteen now, so six years later, you know, my kid's like sixteen seventeen, and I finally get to have some time to myself. So I'm walking my dog and he's this old man and we're up at I'll tell you, We're at Cottage Grove Lake and I had gone to I forgot even the name of the accent Fiddle maybe and Cottage Grove and then I discovered that Tobe, whose name I had learned, was doing a bigfoot meeting there. So my friend and I went for one time and we had beers and listened to them and that was kind of fun. And I was walking my dog like the next weekend, and I found barefoot prints along Cottage Grove Lake and it was the middle of winter, like November, and I'm like, what the heck?

13:11 And I found them over and over and over and so I called up the bar and I said, or the tavern, and I'm like, hey, I really need to get a hold of Tob and tell him these about these prints and what do I do with this? You know, this is exciting woo. And so they got in touch and they sent out one of Tobe's friends. I don't know if I should say his name or not. He usually doesn't go by it. He goes by a nickname anyway, So he came out and we looked at these footprints for like three hours, and then I was really kind of intrigued again. I'm like, I can do this, you know, I can walk around and if it's going to be as easy as this finding prints and stuff, I'm going to keep doing it. And so eventually I found out that the guy who had come out to my summer camp experience in twenty twelve was Tobe, and I was telling him this story and he's like, hey, wait a minute, that was me. So it all kind of circled back around there. He's like that really sounds familiar. Hey wait a minute. So, uh so we reconnected and so he and his friend took me to the friend's house, which was the original al moon Lab, and I got to see some of his stuff out there, and he gave me some pointers and and then it was kind of back in the game. And then what really got me into it though, was I was walking my dog on the other side of the reservoir and it was the

14:43 middle of it was winter, you know, it was maybe like three or four maybe three months later, you know, a cold, miserable, rainy Oregon day. But I had to get out of the house. So we're walking and there's some guys from the Army Corps of Engineers and they're like fixing some pathways by the bathroom. And there was no one on that side of the lake except for the people who live up, you know, in houses in the hills. And so I'm like, okay, well, I feel safe walking my dog out here because there's a couple of guys right over there. And so I'm walking in and we walk around the point and my dog, who is this apartment dog who sits on the couch and watches TV all day long, starts growling. And I've never heard him growl before in my entire life. And I'm like, what the heck. So I snapped a picture of him and then I snapped a picture down the next bay that we had walked into, and he flat out refused to walk any further, growling. The hackles on his neck were up, and I'm like, oh, there's a bear or something down there. It's the middle of the day. What the heck, because usually they only come out on the you know, the mudflats at night. We have some beautiful prints that we've cast and stuff. So I drag him and I take a couple of steps and I something yelled at me. It yelled. I was like, oh, geez, that's not what I said. All right, we're turning around immediately.

16:04 So that's either a weird coyote or a human or you know, I keep finding barefoot prints, could be a bigfoot. So we book it back to the car and all the way around, and I look at my pictures afterwards, and sure enough, there's a face in the blackberries. So what I think happened was a juvenile bigfoot came down the gully to watch the guy's hammer and drill and stuff fixing the paths in the bathroom or whatever the heck they were doing, and we caught him out. We caught him off guard, and then years later, I was listening to Nathan Rio on one of his videos of his hilltop, one that he's since pulled down, and he had like eight or ten big foot on top of his mountain with him, and one of them yelled the exact same thing in almost the exact same tone. I'm like, that means something, it's like and that's what got me back into it. But I heard that video and I heard it yell the exact same thing that I heard.

17:04 It just chills went up and down my spine. So that's what got me back into it. And that was probably the beginning of twenty nineteen. January February twenty nineteen, something like that. Okay, wow, so that is that's the situation where it pushes you way over into the one hundred and ten percent. No, I was still about ninety five percent. You're still ninety five percent, okay, even though you had the picture of the fish. Percent Okay, Yeah, I still had questions. I'm like, this cannot possibly be. I mean, really great big you know monsters roaming around the woods. Wouldn't someone have seen them.

17:48 I've camped my whole life, I've you know, fished, I've you know riven country roads. I've slept all over country roads, you know, camping, and really wouldn't someone has seen them. I had no idea of any research or anything historical that had happened at that point. I completely had no clue of that reality. Okay, so I was still at ninety five percent. Oh man, So there must have been something really wild that pushed you over to pass one hundred percent. Yeah. But the next thing that also got me interested was in the exact same place. Okay, I'm gonna send you a picture of it because it's spectacular. We call it the statue structure. And I found that with one of my I'm preschool teacher, and I used to be a preschool director and our assistant director. And one of my teachers and I her also name is also Carry, Carry and Carry, were out in the woods and she saw this thing on the mudflats and it is the most beautiful, interesting build. I've never seen anyone else have anything like it, and call it the statue structure, excuse me.

18:55 And that was in the exact same area, and that was another little thing taken over. So I went on to the Bigfoot Forums dot com BFF to find out more information about this because I was starting to get really interested in and that's actually where I met Mark from who was my big footing partner for five years. And so I met Mark, and then things really took off at that point, because you know, I'm no longer this five foot two little woman out in the woods all by herself. I've got this six foot do you know dude out with me so we can do all sorts of stupid things in the woods that neither of us would probably do by ourselves. So we started heading out almost every weekend. And one of the more interesting things, which still didn't put me over the top, was we found in one of our photos a what. I know you're wondering, why doesn't she believe? But we found a I think it's a juvenile bigfoot in a tree. We call it the girl in the tree. She has long hair, she's greenish, she's perfectly blended in with the tree. And I'll send you that photo also. And the worst thing is is we had ran around in the woods all day long and we were sitting there looking at our guns and comparing our guns. All the things to be doing with a bigfoot watching you. That's probably not one of the best things that Then we kept finding track

20:28 lines and we started getting out into the woods every almost every other weekend. And now I'm going to start referring to my notes, because twenty twenty was a good year. We've found different track lines, the reservoirs. We started making a circuit out of all the lakes and reservoirs and rivers in the area. And our first sighting was about a year and a half after I started doing this was July fifth of twenty twenty. That got me to one hundred percent. All right, So.

21:09 Mark and I we were out and I'm going to say when I say like Cottage Grove or Dorena or Blue River or offter Hide or Hills Creek or whatever, that means adjacent in the general area. I'm not always specifically referring to that specific location, but like adjacent twenty miles in this direction, twenty miles that way, et cetera, et cetera. Because a lot of these things are along rivers. Is something we have found that they like waterways. And I have a map of Lane County where we have logged out all of the historical things in Lane County, and then we put our things on there too, and there's a definite correlation between bodies of water and bigfoot activity, so a lot of our things happen in that way.

22:02 So we were out and this wasn't by water, but it was Cottage Grove adjacent, so about twenty twenty five miles south of Cottage Grove in an area that Tobe had once upon a time let drop that was a good area for bigfoot. So we headed out there. It was one of the things on our rounds, and it's like ten o'clock at night and nothing was happening. We'd set up there. Mark had a flear thermal camera and we found a mouse that kept trying to get in the car engine because it was warm. That was the only thing happening. We sat up there for like three hours. It was boring beyond belief, and so we're like, oh, that's it, let's call it. We're going in. So we went down the mountain and there's a place called the intersection that we call it because there's two roads that come together, obviously an intersection, and the trees were all small enough that you could see in any direction, so we knew if we stopped there, nothing was going to be sneaking up on us, and so we stopped there and I think Mark's out on one side of the truck and I'm looking around with the flare on the other side of the truck, and I get a hit and it's big and it's bright white, and I'm like, oh ho, I said many things, Hey, Mark, how do you turn on the record button? Because it was brand new, we just got it, And so he runs around the car and we start recording and I saw it lean out this well, okay, first it leaned out and I saw shoulders, head and shoulders, and I'm like, that is not a bear. Bears are very triangular if they're standing on their hind legs. But I definitely saw beefy shoulders,

23:33 head and shoulders, and it leaned out from the tree, just like they say they do. I'm like, oh my god. So Mark starts recording. We ended up getting two and a half minutes of a recording, and you can see the second one walk up behind the first one and it gets bigger and bigger and bigger, which is really cool. And the thing was is we had one fleer between the two of us, so we're sharing it, passing it back and forth. And when you don't have the flair, it is like pitch black. And you can hear or something really big crunching out in the salon as it's stepping around, and it was really cool. I wasn't ever scared, which is weird to say. I mean, it was probably, you know, two three hundred feet away from us, maybe two hundred feet away from us, it was not far.

24:22 And there's two of them out there and they're crunching around and they're looking at us, and then mart pointed at them on the camera, and I think they figured out that we could see them all of a sudden, so after like another twenty seconds, they both ducked down into the salon and disappeared. And then we're like, now what do we do because we can't see these things, and I know there's rumors of them, you know, army crawling through the forest, and I do not want them sneaking up on us somewhere else. So we were I mean we were excited, and I mean high as a kite, you know, without being high, but we were so excited. And then we like zoomed down the mountain. It's like, yep, it's time to go. So that's what put us over one hundred percent, and it was so exciting and we're just like it's they're you know, absolutely real, and I can't believe we just just saw something that looks like a NFL linebacker out in the Cottage Grove woods. It's like, this is amazing, this is so cool. And so the next day we came back after work to do our due diligence as researchers, parked ourselves in the exact same spot and did comparison photos and comparison videos. And because we were so familiar with that spot, we knew exactly what the tree looked like that they were standing next to you, because it had like this little, you know, branch that hung out. And so Mark went out in the woods and you know, we took pictures, comparison pictures, and Mark doesn't even come close to where these things were.

25:51 Mark is like six foot one, you know, two hundred and fifty pounds, and he didn't even come close to what these things looked like. But we did our due de legence and we did our comparisons, and we figured that they were standing in this little depression actually, and they were probably eight and nine feet tall, and they were just enormous and amazing, and because it was on the fleer, they looked like blobs. Mark has a pulsar now, which is a four thousand dollars piece of equipment, and if we had had that, we would have had footage that would rival like the what's the name of the guy in Florida who got. The uh stay and his dad Brown.

26:33 Yeah, I love that footage. It's amazing. We've had that quality of footage, if not better if we'd had the pulsar instead of the fleer. But wow, yeah, so that was our that was our first sight. That's awesome? Is that? Then the video on your channel where it's like seven five twenty our flear sighting that one yep, okay, yep, cool. You know. And twenty twenty it was a hard year. It was a hard year for me personally because two weeks after that, I was diagnosed with breast cancer and in mid July, and I had a double mastectomy on August twenty eighth, and I was back in the woods the next weekend, which was really stupid, but I needed to get out. So our second sighting was October seventeenth, so we're talking, I've been out of you know, I'm in recovery six weeks after surgery, and I am in bandages and I still have drainage tubes and all sorts of crap. And I'm like, let's go, let's go out in the woods. And so we're rolling around the hills outside of Oak Ridge at one of the reservoirs. It wasn't Hills Creek. It's the one next to Dexter. Is that Hills Creek? Yeah, it might be. Always get that one mixed up. And I don't know why it wasn't Fall Creek. So it was the lower one. Yes, thank you.

28:08 You would think I would remember this, but Fall Creek is where I fell and broke my wrist a year later. But so we're rolling around the dirt side of the of the reservoir and we look across and there's a culvert and there's someone standing in it. And it's like, oh, well, that's kind of weird. And it's a long ways away, and I'm like, hey, Mark, look at you. The dude standing in the culverts staring at us. And so he looks over and he's like, yeah, that's really weird. And I didn't think to grab my camera because it wasn't that. Weird, But he was like all dressed in brown one color, and then instead of like turning around and going back into the culvert or stepping out, he literally stepped backwards into the shadows.

28:56 And it's like, what the what the heck was that? That's kind of weird. Let's go check it out. So we went all we had to go an hour. It took us an hour to get down the dirt road, find a bridge, and go back up the highway, and then we had to climb down and it's those big boulders that like hold up the dirt and here I am, I'm, you know, bandaged up still, so we have very carefully to crawl down these boulders, and then we realize it's just a rock field. So we're walking through this rock field, and then we realize it's a creek, so we have to step across the creek. And then we realize the creek is coming from inside the culvert. So we get up to the culvert and there's four inches of water coming out of it. There's a stream in the culvert, So who the heck is standing in a culvert in four inches of water staring at people across the river.

29:50 It's like, Okay, this is just getting more and more weird. So Mark's like, let's go see what's on the other side. So, being an idiot, of course I did. So we go under this one hundred foot culvert that's slimy with mud, very very carefully so I don't fall and break anything, get to the other side and it is literally just a creek going very steep creek going up into the hills. There's no hiking paths, there's no reason for that person to be in the culvert. And we tried getting up to the truck from that side and we couldn't do it. It was so steep. We had to go back through the culvert, climb back up the rocks and cross the road and get back in the jeep. And it's like, you know what, I think we might have just had a daylight sighting, because that's really weird behavior for a person, and there's no reason for someone to be standing in four inches of water with no trails, paths or anything else, and where the heck did he go? So we think that was our second siding, and that would be October seventeenth. Wow, And that was really really cool. Also, but we you know, we questioned it and it's like, yeah, let us know, and then just the weirdness of it pushed.

31:03 Us to yes, that's awesome. Now we called out our second sighting, so it's just like that's cool. But it was so weird, just odd. Was the area you were on on the north side, which is the dirt side? Is it close to Ivan Oaks Campground at all? I have no idea, okay, and I'm just I just interviewed someone who had like. A year's worth. Of experiences at Ivan Oaks. Uh, and it'll be out in like two days from this actual day, but she had.

31:46 Some Yeah, I have no idea what campgrounds are around there. I have no idea, gotcha. Yeah, I don't know. Every time we go to Oakreage, you know, we drive right past it and so we looked down the little creek, you know, and there's nothing over there. But that's just what we didn't on our way to Oakridge's like, yeah, we saw a bigfoot here. Absolutely, Yeah, I would go there. I'd always be thinking that when I drove by. Also, congratulations on beating cancer as well. That is a huge. Yes, thank you. Yeah. Actually, my doctor is so certain they got it all that you have to take medication for ten years some chemotherapy.

32:32 She's been blocking medication for ten years and it'll be five years in October, and I think she's going to let me come off of it five years instead of ten. So that's awesome. That's awesome. I don't talk about this ever, but I am also a survivor but pediatric. Oh yay, non hotcasts. Yeah, I was one of the first kids in the eighties to survive. They had no idea what they were doing. It was just like throwing darts at a wall pretty much. But yeah, they figured it out, so that was pretty cool. Wow, you know, I'm glad for you. So for a very long time Mark and I were very successful. We would go out and like one weekend out of the month, out of four weekends, we would find things. We got really good at being able to identify when I could go out in the woods, what I'm looking for and I'm you know, driving through the hills and doing things, is I am looking for patterns. And it's a lot of pattern recognition things which non neurotypical people sometimes can be better at because you're not looking for what you expect to find. So what I look for in the woods is like parallel things that are too neat and tidy, And that's how we find structures. That's how we find teepees, That's how we find lean to's, that's how we have found all sorts of things. But we're also finding prints

34:08 all over Lane County. I am obsessed with finding and hoping to find juvenile prince because I'm a pre school teacher. I am curious as to what their children look like. You know, what do they do, how do they live, how do they raise them, how do they teach them? I am fascinated by those questions. And what we have discovered is that we have found the same prince up at Blue River adjacent areas seven times over the last five years. And the princes are gradually getting bigger. They're six inches, they were six inches, nine inches and twelve inches, and now they're like an inch bigger. But after the fire is a year a year two years ago, they disappeared and I don't know where they went or what happened to them, but that's an exciting thing. So we find prints, and we've found them at all sorts of places.

35:04 The other thing we find is wood knocks. I actually have two wood knocks on captured on video. I've probably heard fifty wood knocks over over these years. We have one lake that I won't tell you the name of up in the High Cascades. I call it Windy Lake because the wind only blows from one direction and when I'm fly fishing, it's invariably making my flies fly back to me and I lose all my flies in the lake and it makes me angry. But every time we go there, we've gotten knocks. And we've been there four times. And another place that we went that it was affected by fires. We walked it's a mile walk in and we walk in and we had a huge knock, I mean probably three hundred feet away up the mountain, just huge, and then nothing. And there's one campground. There's one campsite at this lake in the middle of nowhere. And so we went fishing and Mark was doing audio and it must have gotten disgusted with us or something, because it pushed over a tree on the way out and Mark caught it on audio. And it's often the distance. So that's the second time that happened, because it happened at the camp and then it happened at that little lake.

36:28 So we get woodennocks, we get structures, we get prints, we've gotten samurai chatter. Actually once you know what samurai chatter. Yeah, okay. So we were out at a place probably thirty miles south of Cottage Grove. We call it Mushroom Mountain. A friend of mine turned us onto it because it is a Chantorell haven, and Mark and I are also mushroom hunters. So we were out they noticed where it was one time, and then we came back on our own and we've been back there probably six or seven times. It's one of the things that's our was on our regular route, and so we were out there and we're up on this mountain and it is like dead. It is a weird mountain. There's nothing growing on it except trees and Chantrell's.

37:24 There's hardly any undergrowth. It feels very dead. Everything is just rotting. It's mushrooms. And we're up there and we're doing our thing, filling our baskets and whatnot, and we start hearing what sounded like three Chinese girls just chattering away. And I look at Mark and I'm like, did you hear any cars come up the road because it's not a clear cut and you can hear cars come up, and we were probably, you know, I don't know, not that far from the road where we were particularly, and I'm like, I didn't hear any cars, Like I didn't hear any cars. And so they continued just to chatter, chatter, chatter, chatter, chattering, and then a raven flew over squawked really loudly and the voices turned off. I'm like, let's go back to the car and see if the audio that we stuck on the tire got it, and it didn't, which was super disappointing. But there were no other cars in the little pull out thing for Mushroom Mountain. There's no other cars.

38:28 There's not another soul there, and it's like we just heard samurai chattering. It was three teenaged girls, you know, it was a couple of girls just talking away. It's like, that was really cool, but it was also a little creepy because he thought it was from one direction and I thought it was from the opposite direction, because I don't know how that works. But that was something that happened up there. That is awesome For people that don't know what that is. You can listen to the Sierra sounds from rock Morehead, and that's what we're referring to, is that a thing that is reported a lot in that county to have other people reported hearing things similar to that.

39:12 The only person that I've ever heard talk about vocals in Lane County was Tobe and his friend. His friend went out in the hills near probably a mile from where we had art from what I understand from where we had our sighting, and we've had other things happen up there too, Like I'll send you a picture of the creek side art. It was these series of sticks put over a very deep creek, and there's a tree wrap of these branches that are wrapped around a tree, and we've had a structure there and all sorts of things. But he was further down the road and he has a story of the old man, and the old man has a super deep voice, and the old man yelled at him when he he was sitting in his truck and the old man yelled at him. And that's the only other person that I've heard really speak about vocals in Lane County that I know of. We have only heard one whoop, and it was on a reservoir and it could have been people. I'm not sure, so we don't count that one.

40:18 Have you ever experienced anything anything weird around Hills Creek? Yeah, we have. Yeah, we have a beautiful wet footprint on a rock right next to the river and we got out and it's a beautiful little spots a little it's a dispersed camping spot. We got out and it's just beautiful. The water is such an amazing color, So you know, it's one of our little stops. It's like, hey, should we stop and eat lunch? And there is this huge footprint on a rock right coming out of the river and it's wet and you can see like five toes on it, and I'll send you that picture too because it's really cool.

41:05 But there was only one of them. Nothing else was wet. We did find like little tiny snails and things that had been eaten or in the little guts were smeared on a rock. But yeah, and then the meadow where we found the girl was above that. The girl in the tree that was above Hills Creek up in the mountains. Gotcha. Yeah, And we also have had other things happen in that same spot at the meadows. We've had rocks thrown at us, little tiny pebbles. It's like, was that a bug or a pebble? It's like, hmm, maybe we should not find out. I don't know. So we've had other things happen there too.

41:54 The south of fifty eighth though, right, I gotta. Look at a map in my head. Yeah, I'm not sure, Honest to God, I sat down one day and I wrote out, and we have like eighty three things that have happened, you know, prince chatter, you know, a single prince finger smears. We have a place that we call Harry Creek, which is off one of the reservoirs. It goes big river that goes up into the hills. And we were fooling around there one day and there was berries on a rock in the middle of the creek, and there was very dirty fingerprints smeared all over the rocks.

42:41 And then we found a hair up higher, a little kinky, curly hair could beg human. We don't know. We never did anything with it. Mark's probably still has it. So we call that Harry Creek. But we've, you know, had other things happen up that way too. Honestly, every rest or every lake. We go up by Waldo, way up on top of the cascades and there's hundreds of little, tiny lakes up there, and we have found, you know, some weird things happening up at there. One of our biggest nights of big footing. We didn't see anything, which is really frustrating because they didn't ever make themselves known. But we were up there, and we're up at this lake and we're just checking it out, you know, we're scouting things. We go out, and we used to go out and we would scout things and go to lakes and just roll around in the woods looking for weird things or places that we've heard about or rumors or stories or whatever, and we go check it out. And so we're up there at this lake and it has like, I don't know, ten dispersed campsites around it, and these girls come running in from the trail that goes up to some upper lakes and they look a little panicked, and we're like, hey, what's going on you guys? Okay?

44:00 And they look at each other and they look at us, and I can just see them thinking should we tell these people? And so they're like, well, there's rocks above the campsite. You know, there's a whole screen field, and something threw rocks down at all night long and then stomped through our campground and scared the crud out of us. And we're not going up there ever again. So Mark and I look at each other like, oh heck, yeah, we're going up there next weekend. So we went up there the next weekend and we call it Woodknock Lake. Mark has the video of it on his channel, which is Sasquatch Habitat Investigation Team shiit because he does the jokes like that.

44:43 Yeah. So we were up there and nothing happened that night. It was a beautiful night. You know, we were a little on the edge. But what Mark decided to do was bring a recording of a baby crying. So we were at one point of the lake and imagine a triangle. So he puts the crying baby audio over by the rock screen and it goes off fifteen minutes every two hours. So we went off a couple times in the night. I didn't sleep much, but you know, I was waiting to see if anything happens. Nothing happened, so we woke up. We're having breakfast and then something happened, something was really really angry on the third point of the triangle, and we got eight wood knocks. I've got one of them on video, and you can hear it, crack. Can you go, crack, crack crack around the lake. Whatever was down there was not happy with us. But we could never the fleer was not strong enough to to, you know, pick out that, and it was daylight and things were warm already, so we couldn't see anything down there, but boy, we could sure hear it, and it was not happy with us.

45:54 So we high tailed it out of there, and it's a good four mile hike back to the lower Lake, and we were escorted out. There were knocks behind us all the way out, like two or three, just to let us know. It was about two thirds of the way that we finally didn't have any more knocks following us. But that was that was amazing. And we'd always hoped to go back, and then for one reason or another, we couldn't, And then we went. Last year was our last camping trip, and we were going to try to get up to the upper Lake. It was like June tenth, and we get up there and there's still snow on the trail. We can't even get up to the upper lake, which was really disappointing. And then we camp that night.

46:39 It was a beautiful day and in the middle of the night a snowstorm blew in in the middle of June, so we had to leave. Really a snowstorm in the middle of June. Yes. And the other exciting thing on that is that we found a structure behind the campground and I'll send you a pitch of that too, And it was like, you know how a tree tips over and then the roots are sticking up. Well, I was looking for firewood because it was cold. I was looking for firewood and I saw a whole bunch of logs. I'm like, oh, cool, someone stacked some logs up here. And I went over and looked at it, and it's like, oh, that is not a firewood stack. It was logs that were stacked against the ground and then up against the roots, and over the top of them was big chunks of bark.

47:26 But I'm like, that doesn't look right, that doesn't look like kids playing because it's full of mud. First of all, because the snow had been melting and dripping into this hole and it was just gross in there, so I'm like, that's a possibility, and it was a perfect spot to sit there and stare at the camp totally hidden. The only reason I saw it is because I started climbing up the hill looking for firewood and I saw the parallel lines, which of course stick out to me like a sore thumb in the woods. So that was really cool, and that was that was the last time I went camping except for this weekend. So that's awesome. That's you know, you bring up the whole parallel lines and the patterns. That's something that really stuck out to me too in the woods outside of Oakridge, because it's just so blatantly obvious, Like you've got thing, You've got a tree next to a tree where it's it's twist, it's broken eight to ten feet up and then the way that the tree that is, you know, coming down is at an angle. But like just the way it looks, it looks like it should be a piece of art, and you're like, this is so ridiculous, Like there's no way this was snowload.

48:52 It's crazy exactly. We've seen little twists like that. Also south of Cottage Grove there's a trail that we went down and it was just the ends of the branches. The last four inches of the branches of these trees along the trail were twisted backwards. And it wasn't everyone. So there's little twists like that, and then we have seen big twists where the whole thing is twisted all the way around. And actually at the camp, at my very first camp in twenty twelve, there was a huge tree twisted and you know, most people would look at that and think, oh, it's flotsome from the river, but this thing was twisted all the way around and set up like a triangle. And it really caught my eye because once you see it, you're like, that's not natural.

49:42 I don't know how that would happen. And that's what I look for in the woods. I don't know how that would happen. I don't know how that would fall like that. I don't know how that would, you know, look the way it does. So those are the things that I look for. We find more often than not. So it's such a it's such an interesting area. I've had so many conversations about this area and. It's I mean, are are you know, yeah, famous for a good reason. No, they absolutely they are.

50:23 You already kind of mentioned like you're you're not super into the weird stuff, although you have had like you've seen some orbs at times, but yeah, there. I can't think of another area where I have random people email me and be like, it's not just bigfoot. I saw gnomes, I saw fairies, I saw a dog man. Like think of anything, Okay. I have a friend who, yeah, go ahead, Yeah, I have a friend who swears that they saw two dog men up at Silver Falls. And I think in the next couple two or three weeks, I'm gonna go hiking up at Silver Falls. So oh, let's know if I say anything our orbs we found that we saw. I actually had my friend Carrie, who found the statue structure with me years ago, with us that time, and he saw them too, And I'm super glad we had a third person there to verify. But these orbs were very odd.

51:26 They looked from basketball size to hula hoop size, and they worried pale yellow and pink and blue and white, and they moved in different directions. They didn't flow all in one direction like they were following a breeze or anything like that they would go opposite directions and up and down and in and out of the trees, and eventually Carrie was so creeped out she ran back to the truck. And then I was desperately trying to get pictures of anything. And it wouldn't show up on the fleer, it wouldn't show up on Marx Poulsar, it wouldn't show up on my phone. I could not get a picture of these darn things. I finally found one in one of my photos and it looks like a smoke ring.

52:12 But so we saw these orbs, and then at Blue Rivers where we find all sorts of weird stuff. So you go way out and there's a place called Wolf Rock, so there's some weird stuff that happens around there. It's the largest monolith in the state of Oregon. But on the way there there's another place where we saw lights in the woods and there's no houses out there. There is nothing behind there that would have justified this light that we found, and we kept looking at it. We took pictures of it. We did get pictures of that, and then on the lake bed. This was probably in twenty eighteen or nineteen when we were first finding the track lines. We found the track line, and the next day I went out to cast the Prince by myself, and they were across from the path down to it, and they were all the way across the mud flat.

53:09 So I had to walk out on this and I'm carrying just a ton of stuff. I'm carrying a bucket, I'm carrying water, I'm carrying plaster and my chair and you know, snack and lunch and whatever, because I have to sit out there until they dry. So I cast the things and I was super creeped out walking down this path, down this little road to the water. I'm like, I don't know why I'm so creeped out. There's nothing here, And so I go out. I'm all by myself. I'm casting potential bigfoot prints, and I'm perfectly fine. Over on the far side by the forest, I'm perfectly fine. Finally I decide I'm gonna take some of my stuff back to the car. So an hour later, I take some of my stuff back to the car because plaster is really heavy once you get it all, and I didn't want to crowd them and squish them at all, or you know, muss up my brand new prints my casts.

54:01 So I take some of my stuff back and I am creeped out again. I have my hand on my weapon. That's how creeped out I was. I mean, you know, I'm not stupid. When I go out by myself in the woods, I'm not usually armed, Okay, So I had my hand on my weapon and there was nothing there. So I come back from the car again, super creeped out. The hair on my arm is standing on end. I walk out, I pick up my prints, and I hurry back to the truck, and again for the fourth time, I'm totally creeped out at the same spot. So while I was out there picking up the prince, I took a picture of the mountain and it is absolutely not something I saw, but there is something blue and yellow and white in the trees at the base of the mountain.

54:45 And when I was showing it's a pretty picture because the mountain, the sun is like you know, setting, and it's really pretty and it's a really pretty picture. And then my friend's like, what is that shine there? And I'm like, wat shiny thing, And then we zoomed in on it. It's like, what the heck, that's right where I felt creeped out. There's something in there that was making me feel creeped out that I could not see. So I went back another weekend, same time, same day or not same day, same time, same place, and took pictures of vehicles driving past. And it was bigger than a pick up with its lights on. And it was not near the road. It was below the road, so I know exactly where it was. So I think that was a I mean, it's not a UFO because it wasn't flying, But there's weird stuff that happens out there, orbs and lights and this potential UFO thing and Bigfoot, and it's just a creepy, creepy area. And that's where we have found the same prints seven times. All sorts of stuff happens out in that direction.

55:51 That's amazing. So while I don't believe in WU necessarily, I do believe there's things out there that we do not understand. Absolutely that we don't have a good explanation for everything I have seen of Sasquatch has been you know, physical things, footprints, you know, uh, things that they have made, things that they potentially have eaten. You know nothing, you know, voices, nothing that would lead me to think of anything supernatural. But on the other hand, I've now seen orbs in UFOs, So yeah, I don't know what to think about that anymore.

56:35 My mind is open to it, but that has not been my experience with Sasquatch at this point. It's one of those things where in that area, like if you if you go out there and like you're just like have an open I don't know, I experienced some weird stuff. Like I don't know if you've got the story of what happened by Hills Creek Reservoir on my last day out there. I've told this a few times. But okay, yeah, so listeners, you're going to have to hear it again. So so I got like this weird I had these I got these insect bites. I think that like got really bad. And so I had to go into where was it. It was like just outside of Eugene on my last day to get antibiotics and stuff.

57:30 And then I was all like, oh man, I had to cancel interviews, blah blah blah, and so I was like, you know whatever, I'm going to get a burger and just drive around Hills Creek, you know, and just kind of what else and then so I'm this is this is weird. So I'm just driving along and I've been like, you know, what, if if you want to see them, just say I'm ready to see you, Like that's what. Yeah, And I drove by a tree and like there was the outline of the silhouette of a big foot that was like seven to eight feet tall in the vine covering a pine tree, and it disappeared and I was like, oh my goodness, what in the world. Oh it was. It was absolutely bonkers. And I have no idea what to think about it.

58:12 I don't know if it was the fever or what you know, or or maybe it really happened. But I do have an open mind. So things happen, and some things I just don't have an explanation for. Yeah, absolutely, you know, I don't know, but I'm open to it. But so far, I haven't seen anything that would lead me to justify saying I believe in WU. So, but who knows, who knows? Who knows? Who? You had? Said? Silver Falls? Is that the state park you're referring to?

58:53 Yes, okay, cool, Cool, that's what I thought, because I've gotten like two different bigfoot reports from that part over the last year as well, which is not surprising. And also yeah, really it really is. It was almost a national park, I think too. They tried to beautiful turn it into a national park. This is like one hundred years ago or something. But also I don't doubt it. I talked to a guy. He was telling me that there's been a lot of people in Detroit, the town of Detroit, that have actually not just had big Foot sightings, but they've also had dog man sightings too. So that's kind of interesting since that's on twenty two and then you have to it's kind of you know, it's more west, but silver Falls is okay.

59:43 So what I did this last weekend is I have always wanted to see Cliff Brackman's Bigfoot Museum. Oh sure, so did. I planned it so I did not have work on Friday, so I did all my stuff on Friday. Saturday, I drove up to Boring, Oregon. I drove to s wallet In and then across the Boring went to the museum, and then I went to Stakada and I camped on a road called Indian Henry Road, which is supposedly one of the the is one of the roads in the Bigfoot Highway by Joe Beelert, and I forgot the other guy's name, absolutely Cliff Olson, thank you. Absolutely nothing happened, but it was my first solo camping adventure in the middle of nowhere on a known Bigfoot arian. Scared the daylights out of me. On if I can do this, I can do anything. Absolutely nothing happened. I slept like three hours, and then I drove the rest of the big Foot Highway into Detroit, and then I really should probably get home and stop taking I would take side roads and I'd go up five miles on the dirt roads and then come back just looking for stuff. You know, did not find anything. I was some disappointed the whole thing.

1:00:55 Found absolutely nothing on any side road anything. It was a total bust. But it was so much fun. But yeah, I ended up in Detroit, and that whole corridor along the Clackamus is just squatchy as all get out. I hate that term, but that just describes it everything around there. And then even you know, I went, I took the shorter way into Sweet Home and all of that is just prime territory also, and then I you know, hit the freeway and came back to Eugene because my kid was calling me at that point, when are you coming home? I'm hungry, like starve all weekend. But yeah, so I just drove there. And that's a little long for me to go to go big footing, but to make a weekend of it, you know, it was doable. But that's like three or four hours for me once you get up there. No, I'm more like three, but it's a ways.

1:01:59 But yeah, lots of reports up there everywhere. I bought that book and I also bought this little map at the museum. By the way, if you have not been to Cliff's Museum up and Boring and you're ever in the Portland area, that is absolutely worth going to. It's an amazing experience. It vastly, uh exceeded my expectations. It was really cool, and I wish I'd taken more pictures of things, and a couple of the things I knew about, Like I knew about there's like some prints that you know that I was familiar with, and it was really cool. And then I asked the receptionist, you know, the you know, not the receptionist, the cashier. I'm like, all right, where should I camp tonight. So she's like, okay, and she told me where to go. So that was kind of fun.

1:02:49 That was kind of fun. But you have an opportunity to go to it, you should go to it. It is so worth it. He did a great job. Him and Melissa did a fabulous job. But we have to say one time he told me a track line that had a seventy two inch heel to heel track line was not Bigfoot, and I'm like, dude, you're wrong. I'm sorry, You're just wrong. Seventy two inches unless you're an Olympic sprinter. And this thing was not sprinting. It was walking. You know, there was no dirt flown about whatever, you know that would indicate running. I'm like, dude, you're just wrong. Even Cliff is in you know, not infallible. Right, Cliff is He's a fun guy to talk to.

1:03:30 I've had We got to hang out, We got to hang out during the festival and yeah, we we went out and the group of us went out seable. Oh yeah, he's smart, you know. So what I have coming up in the next couple of months, I'm going to go to the big Foot festival up and I don't know how to pronounce it Melow Team Falls, Washington. I'm going to go up to that one. I'll probably get to oak Ridge, but I think it's Friday, Saturday or something. Yes, I don't know. I might go to the Oakridge one. Well, I got to work on Friday, so that's not going to work, but I might go on Saturday. I'm going to try to get to the Olympic Peninsula. Excuse me, just looking at that display of the nest that they have. I don't know if it's a recreation or if they pulled it out of the woods or what, but they have a nest from the the Olympic Peninsula sites. I forgot which group is doing the research up in Olympic project. Yeah, well that makes sense. They're pretty close mouth about what they're they're doing and finding and such. But I'd like to go poke around up there, so i'd like to do that. I want to get up to the Tillamook area and nose around because I've heard of some things up there. I want to go to the Redwoods, you know, I don't know. There's so many things I want to do, but we'll have to see how gas prices are there.

1:05:00 You go, I mean and yeah, if I lived out there, I would be I wouldn't have enough time probably in twenty years to go everywhere. I mean, there's so many people, so many places to go to in the PNW related to Bigfoot, I mean and. Oh yeah, I mean, you know, I wanted to do the pilgrimage the Patterson Gimlin site someday, you know, I'd like to do that. We tried doing that once. We tried going to the museum in Willitts or wherever it's called, and there was they were closed the one day we were driving. My family all lives in Reno, so I'm like, all right, kid, we're driving down and we're going to cut across here. It was like one hundred and eight degrees. The museum was closed and there was construction on the highway.

1:05:41 So it just didn't happen because like hours and hours to get to the twelve hours to do an eight hour drive, and we didn't get to see what we wanted. So there was no just oh, Let's hill and Patterson Gimland site is like, that's not going to work. So that's on the bucket. Was someday. In our in our last few minutes have you ever heard anything. There's an area it's like a subtle Lake Sisters area. Do you get anything from around there or have you checked that area out?

1:06:22 That doesn't sound familiar. But we do get up in well Mark and I used to get up into the high country. I don't know what I'll do by myself now that I'm bigfooting by myself. So we'll we'll, we'll see. I mean, I keep looking for people the Bigfoot with, but usually they think you're, you know, a fruitcake. They're like, uh, hush or lady. But around here, you know, people believe that they don't want anything to do with it, so you know, you know, uh, I think about every tenth person will be like, yeah, I believe in Bigfoot, you know, and they're willing to say it. But finding people that actually go out with is much harder. Gosh, who want to. Waste their gasoline and their saturdays every weekend being in the woods looking for bigfoot? You know, people are like, oh, you know, you're gonna get the picture someday and make a whole bunch of money, And I'm like, in the meantime, I've spent thousands of dollars doing this hobby. Thousands get out in the woods. I fly fish, I look for muckrooms, you know, do work craft. I you know, do regular fishing.

1:07:22 I do hiking and backpacking and kayaking. I'm going to get a new fishing kayak this summer, and you know, I want to do some you know, canoe camping or kayak camping. So I got plans, and there's things to do out there that aren't bigfooting. And I find that bigfoot happens when you're doing other things. Yeah, I would agree fully that this stuff does tend to happen when you're just hanging out and hanging. Out, you're going to go fishing and something, all of a sudden, you got a wood knock, exactly, And I swear I wonder sometimes you know, people have talked about and this is kind of wo that they put some sort of marker on you where.

1:08:08 They all know that you know they exist. You know, so when you walk into a lake, they may not knock for everyone, but they're gonna knock so that you know they're there. And that's such a weird thing, mh. But that's the only reason I can think of that. I mean, I have lots of friends who hike and backpack and I'm a co moderator of a hiking group. For heaven's sakes, I'm really bad at it. But none of these people have ever heard wood knocks or found prints or anything else. It's like, I know, you guys are out in the woods, and I bet you when you go out with me, we're going to have wood knocks. And I can't explain that. I don't know why it happens. Yeah, it's just wonder if there's some sort of marker, you know, put on people who.

1:08:55 Know it is is really interesting. You know, you start if you talk to a lot of people that have had experiences, and do you start to notice patterns where the people that have if they have an experience out in the woods, sometimes afterwards they will open them It's almost like they've opened themselves up to other things as well that are now like, oh, hey, this person is in this area and you know you better be careful. You may have brought something home that that can happen a lot too. And it's just it's very very strange, and I don't know if we'll ever really understand everything that's going on there, but that is something that does keep coming up in people's accounts as well.

1:09:40 So yeah, well, besides just regular emergency prep and stuff not is stuff, and having your backpacking stuff that you should have. I also ground myself and do a spell of protection around myself before I go out in the woods, so I don't bring something home accidentally, especially UFOs and aliens. Nothing to do with them. Nothing. I don't want to know that. I don't want anything. I don't like that picture. I don't want anything to do with it. Big the UFOs know absolutely. And you know, I've talked to two different people that have had sightings in the woods down by Cottage Grove, Owl Moon Lab area where they've seen something that looks like an alien in the woods.

1:10:29 Oh, I've heard that from Tob too. And I've heard metallic sounds in the woods that sound like doors opening. Oh you have. And yeah, I've heard some weird things out there. And I don't want anything to do with that, no, thank you. I have a friend who was in the military. He used to do he used to hunt people and poachers, and now he hunts poachers and and whatnot. And he has gone into many many places in the woods and he has seen stick Indians and he's Native American, and he says, don't talk about those things, but he has seen them in that area, and a lot of times he'll tell me. I'll say, hey, is this area okay to go, and he'll give me warnings, you know, watch out for this, that yes, this is safe, whatever whatever.

1:11:22 But he has seen stick Indians little people in that area, and I'm like, no, I don't want anything to do with that either. Oh wow, okay. That that is also something I've heard a little bit, like, yeah, there's there's little people things going on in that that area as well. Man, that's crazy. Do you think. Do you think there's any reason why all this stuff happens? Well, I guess it's it's really all over Oregon. I just kind of hyper focus on this one area is what it comes down to. But really all of Oregon has weird stuff like this happening. Correct, I think it's all over. Yeah.

1:12:06 If you think about the big picture, you know, when Europeans came to this continent, of course, Native Americans were already here right living their lives, doing their things. All of the Native tribes have names for sasquatch, and some of them have names for other creatures. Also, but I think, you know, we brought our diseases over here and killed off all the Native Americans, and I wonder if it also killed off a lot of the Sasquatch species, and so now they're making a comeback, you know, for many, many hundreds of years, decades, the last decades, and then you start getting stories. But it could also be that we're just pushing into their territory as our cities and you know, things and towns expand into the wilderness. But yeah, there's a lot of weird things on the West Coast.

1:12:55 But there are stories everywhere, you know. I mean, look at Appalachia. Have my friends Joe and Jesse who are help at Holler. Joe and I are on the Bigfoot forums, which have disappeared. I don't know where they went, but Joe and I have talked for years and Mark and I and they have all sorts of weird stuff happened in Appalachia. So it's not only the Pacific Northwest, it's other areas of the country too. But yeah, that's in just the tip of the iceberg. You know. Bigfoot is like the gateway drugged all sorts of weird the woods. Yeah, it's a perfect way to put it. Really, it really does open you up and you have to be aware of who.

1:13:35 You really are. Anyway. Yeah, that's a pretty easy way to put it. Carry me. It has been just a really fun conversation with you about Lane County and all the things that you have gotten into over the years, and I'm sure they'll continue to be cool things that happen. But I want to make sure that people are aware of how they can keep up to date with what you're doing, and if is there also a way that they might be able to reach out to you if they need to about things in the area or anything like that. Oh sure. I have my YouTube channel, lane County Bigfitters, and I have to say I have no idea how to edit. I am the most technology ludeite person you've ever met in your life. What you see is what you get, So eventually I hope to learn how to edit and have an intro in an outro and make it look a lot better. But today is not that day.

1:14:35 So you can go to my YouTube channel and see all of this at Lane County Bigfooters. You can email me at Lane County big Footers at gmail dot com. And I'm really super bad about checking my account like twice a year. That's awesome. If you on a video I recently made, I'm and say hey, carry go check out out your email, then I'll remember to go check my email. And I supposedly have a Facebook page too, but that's even worse. I never update that, so that's pretty much defunct. But you can reach me in those two things. Awesome. Well, I'll make sure that all that is in the show notes. But thank you so much for coming on the show tonight, and best of luck in the future.

1:15:25 Carrie, Thank you so much. I just wanted to take a minute to say thank you for listening to this episode of the Big for Society podcast. Carrie's journey is one of those rare stories that blend's personal struggle, raw fear, and relentless curiosity. Whether it was the eerie whistles near that summer camp, the creature behind the culvert, or the twott on thermal and the Oregon Woods, her story sticks with you. If you enjoy this conversation, please subscribe to the channel on YouTube, hit the bell icons you don't miss any new episodes, and share this one with a friend who's in a big Foot Oregon lore or just a wild mystery in the forest. If you're listening on Apple podcas Us or Spotify, make sure you're following the show and if you'd be willing to leave a positive review. It helps us reach more curious minds like yours. Now, if you are someone you know has had a big foot encounter, especially around Lane County, Oregon, the Oakridge area, Blue River, or the Cottage Grove area, I would love to hear your story.

1:16:18 Please shoot me an email at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com, and don't forget Sasquatch Summerfest is coming up July eleventh through twelfth at Greenwaters Park in Oakridge, Oregon. Big for Society listeners can grab a two day pass for the price of a one day admission with code BFS at checkout. Tickets are at www dot Sasquatch Summerfest dot com. Thank you again for being part of the Big for Society. Until next time, keep your eyes open, trust your gut, and never stop asking what else might be out there, and see you in the woods.