July 4, 2025

Biker Boys vs. the Forest Beast | New York

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Season 1

What happens when two thrill-seeking teens hack a new dirt-bike trail deep into the Hudson Valley woods—and the night suddenly goes dead silent? In this adrenaline-spiking episode, Jeremiah Byron talks with Scott, a lifelong outdoorsman from Red Hook, New York, who still remembers the crunch-crunch-crunch of something massive descending an embankment toward his bright-orange pup tent in the summer of 1976. No flashlight. No breath. Just unstoppable footsteps.

Scott walks us through blazing their secret trail, the gas-soaked smell of two-strokes cooling in the dark, and the moment he realized whatever was outside could see without light. We also dive into Hudson Valley hot-spots—Kinderhook, Whitehall, the Catskills—and explore the theory of a migratory Bigfoot route stretching from the Green Mountains to the Poconos.

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You're listening to Bigfoot Society and I'm Jeremiah bron Tonight's account.

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We talked to Scott, who in the summer of nineteen

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seventy six was a teenage dirtbike racer who thought the

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scariest thing in the woods was a pack of wild dogs.

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One night, he was proven wrong when something impossibly heavy

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started marching towards them in the darkness. This is a

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story of Scott, the teenager who learned that the forest

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protects itself and sometimes its own monsters. So stay with us,

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all right, Bigfoot Society. We've got the privilege of talking

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to Scott today. Scott's an individual I was introduced over

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on the YouTube channel for Bigfoot Society and he is

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on the line to share an encounter he had an

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upstate New York. I'm really excited to hear about what

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he experienced that day when tenting out in the woods,

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and he's going to tell us all about it. But Scott,

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welcome to the show. How are you doing today?

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I'm doing fine, Thank you.

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Absolutely this is I believe you'll share, of course more

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about the particular area. But I believe this area has

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come up on the show in the last few months

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at least the general area. So it'll be interesting to

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put another account in the area. But you know, Scott,

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I'm going to go ahead and feel free to share

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any details about yourself that we would need to know

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that might help before we actually hear you tell what

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happened that day.

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Well, yeah, this encounter happened in upstate New York, a

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Notts and Valley region of upstate New York. A little

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town up there called Red Hook, New York, is where

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I grew up. I grew up there in the late

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sixties or early seventies pretty much as a teenager boy,

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the typical teenager and the country type guide with We

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did a lot of hunting, a lot of fishing, I

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did trapping, So we were out in the woods a

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lot growing up in that area near the Catskill Mountains.

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Played baseball, rode a lot of bikes, and did some motocross,

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trail riding, all types of outdoor sports like that. So

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growing up in that area, there was a lot of woods,

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a lot of streams, ponds, creeks, and and we as

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kids back then, you know, we we were never in

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the house.

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Sitting down on a couch watching TV.

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We were we were always out in the woods, even day, night, whenever, exploring,

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just doing all kinds of outdoor activities. So and that

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area where I'm talking about, you know, is very country,

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a lot of farms, dairy farms, apple orchards and things

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like that. So as as kids all through our teens

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from two three four years old all the way up

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till eighteen nineteen twenty years old, we were just constantly

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outside and familiar with the woods what was that and fishing,

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and we did a lot of trapping animals.

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Also, so you were you were definitely no stranger to

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being out in the woods. You're aware of what animals

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were out there, what birds? Is the thing where you're

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pretty familiar with things that you would see and hear

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and you'd know what they were.

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Oh absolutely, well, you know, we we had I had

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trapping lines when I was a teenager, and they went

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for miles up over fields and streams and ponds and

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creeks and up over I don't want to call them mountains,

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but they were you know, very big hills that you know,

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not really a mountain, but large hills and a lot

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of fields. And I trapped a muskrat in a lot

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of streams, mink, raccoons, and foxes, And as far as animals,

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we really didn't have any bears out there. A lot

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of deer, of course we're in our area. We hunted

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deer during deer season. We hunted squirrels, we hunted rabbits,

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and also we did raccoon hunting at night a lot

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of times with coon dogs.

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So we were out in the woods a lot in

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the night.

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As far as the animals go, I was familiar with

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all of them, even like stuff like snakes.

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I had a snake collection.

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We went out in the woods all the time trying

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to find snakes, lifting up every rock we could, turning

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over every walk we could do. There was a lot

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of dead wood in the forest, a lot of trees

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laying down where we would roll them over and on snakes,

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and I had a collection that I had in tanks

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with all different breeds of snakes. So we were always

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out in the woods with the animals. The The only

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time I ever had an encountering the woods with animals

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that actually frightened me was a pack of wild dogs.

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There was one time in the woods when I got

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scared when a pack of wild dogs they were running deer,

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and that was not so much common, but it happened

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a few times where you'd hear them barking in a

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pack and they'd be chasing deer and you'd see the

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white tails going up through the fields and up over

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the hills and all that, and there would be six, seven, eight,

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ten dogs all in the pack. And one day out

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in the woods as a teenager twelve, thirteen, fourteen, whatever,

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I was up there hunting snakes or whatever I was doing,

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and a pack of dogs actually surrounded me and were

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growling at me and you know, like almost attacking me.

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So I remember that that frightened me a little bit.

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But as far as being in the woods, I knew

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all the creatures in the woods, all the animals in

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the woods, and the only thing I ever went in

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the woods and was scared was wild dogs.

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How did you get away from those dogs that day?

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You know, I don't remember exactly. I think I just started,

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you know, going after them, because if you show fear,

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you know, than than they sense that and they'll come

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at you a little more. So I think I just

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started attacking them and acting like I was gonna you know,

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fight them and kick them and everything and kind of

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ran them off. I don't remember exactly, but I just

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remember having a pack of wild dogs approached me and

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scaring the daylights.

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Out of me.

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That's that's pretty wild. I'm glad that that turned out

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the way that it did for you. That is, you know,

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sometimes you hear things where that's not the case when

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you when you deal with wild dogs in the woods.

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So you were, you were definitely out in the woods

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quite a bit and this area, you know, I just

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also maybe throw in a little contact myself. This Red

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Hook is in Dutchess County, New York. There are more,

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I mean there's a few. There's at least five public

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reports listed on the BFRO. There's things over the years

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such as vocalizations, there's visual encounters. There's campers heard and

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see possible bigfoot passed by tents on Nuclear Lake. Very

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interesting stuff. And actually I'll give these guys a little

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shout out. Although I've never talked to them, I guess

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there's a bait shop in Red Hook, New York, hook

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Line and Sinker Bait Shop where they have bigfoot researchers

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of the Hudson Valley. So that's kind of cool. They

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have a research foundation going on. There's how it's listed

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on Google Maps. So shout out to you guys. Feel

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free to reach out. Maybe we'll chat someday as well.

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But so to say that your account that you're about

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to share, there's other things that have happened before as well,

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which is very interesting. But would you be able to

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take us back to that day when you know you

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were out in the woods and you had this experience happen.

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Yeah, the well, the right now?

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What has happened?

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First of all, I've been a skeptic my whole life,

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and I'm coming to terms with my encounter. Basically, I'm

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sixty two years old now and I never really reported anything.

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I've never really.

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You know, put a lot of thought into this. But

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recently there's been a series of events that's happened that

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brings me to call and notify you guys and share

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my encounter. It's just a bunch of things that have

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all happened. It's like a bunch of pieces of puzzle

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that have all come together here within the last year,

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which is encouraging me to make this call to you

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and share my experience. So I'll start out with this encounter.

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It was probably the year of nineteen seventy six. As

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I previously stated, we had motorcycles, you know, I had

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mini bikes and motorcycles and trail bikes and things that.

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We rode all over.

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We had literally thousands of acres around our house, including

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power lines that go go north and south with you know,

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trails all through the power lines, and then another set

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of power lines that goes east and west, and you know,

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we had trails that we would take our dirt bikes

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up and down these power lines. Now, the power lines

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that go through that area, you can ride those power

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lines on a motorcycle, you know, all the way from

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Red Rock down to Fishkill I think, which is like

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a good fifteen to twenty miles one way, and like

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north towards up like up by Elizaville they go. So

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as kids, you know, when we got on our bikes,

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we could just ride for hours and hours, exploring all

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the lands around us. And on top of that, we

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made trails through the woods to take our motorcycles through,

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even when there wasn't trails already made like the power

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lines were, so we had thousands of acres where we

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could ride all over. Well, this day, it was a weekend.

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We were out of school. It was a summer break.

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I was about thirteen or fourteen years old at the time,

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and one of my friends that I was very close

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with lived about four or five miles away, and he

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had a trail bike and I had my trail bike,

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and it was a Saturday where we would go camping

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sometimes and ride together. It was probably later in the afternoon,

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like four or five o'clock, because I remember it was

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going to be dark in like four or five hours,

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I believe. But anyway, he called me up on the

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phone and he asked me, he said, Hey, do you

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want to get on your bike ride over to my house?

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And he said, I think it'll be cool. We'll take

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the tent out in the woods and we'll ride some

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trails and we'll take the tent with us, and we'll

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sleep tonight in the tent, and then tomorrow, which would

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have been a Sunday, you know, we'll pack up the

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tent and come back and do something during the day.

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So I was like, okay.

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So I went out, got my gas can always filled

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the tank on the bike before I left, got my

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sleeping bag and a two man puff tank and we

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would take bungee courts and just strap the sleeping bag

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and the puff tent on the backseat of the bike.

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So I strapped it on, filled the tank and told

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my parents, say I'll see tomorrow. So I get on

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my trail bike and I ride the power lines for

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a while and it, like I said, it's probably four

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or five miles over to his house.

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So it was about a.

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Good twenty thirty thirty five minute ride probably through the

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power lines and then through all these trails we had

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cut through the woods. And I arrived at his house

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and he's got his bike out on a kickstand.

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He's all ready to go.

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He's got a sleeping bag, you know, tied down with

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his bungee cords, and he's got these two machetes. And

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he didn't mention anything to me about the machetes. So

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he's got these two machetes and they're in this green

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sheath with a shoulder strap. So he says to me,

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he says, here, put this machete on you. He said,

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we're going to ride ride down the road to get

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to the field there. And he said we're going to

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cut a path into the woods with the machetes. And

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he said, so instead of us going on trails. We know,

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he goes, let's make our own trail. We're just gonna

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head back into these woods and make our own trail,

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and then we'll find a place put up a tent

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tonight and we'll sleep there and we'll come back, you know,

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kind of like an adventure type thing. So I'm like, okay,

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So we ride through this field, we get to the

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edge of the woods, we put our bikes on, our

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kicks the hands.

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I grabbed the machete.

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The sheath went over your back, so you just pulled

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it out from your back. And there was sick cedar

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trees there. And I don't know if you know cedar

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tree as well, but they grow together. They're really thick.

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But the limbs on the cedar trees are kind of small,

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so you can cut them with a machete. So we

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just started we called it hacking. We just started hacking

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our way into these woods, and we cut through just

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enough to get our handlebars through because we were going

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back into these woods and we were making our own

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trail just to get the bikes through. So we'd go

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in there and we'd hack maybe twenty thirty forty feet

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at a time and then go back to the motorcycles,

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start them up, ride them in where we cut the

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trail through. Then you know, park the bikes, put to

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kickstand down, get the machetes, start packing in some more so. Anyway,

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we did this for probably a couple of hours, just

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hacking into the woods. And of course, if there's like

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a big log that you know, went down where we

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couldn't get our bikes over, topped like two foot log

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or something, you know, we'd have to go around that.

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So we just worked our way back into this forest,

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so to speak, cutting a trail and kind of riding

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their bikes in as we went, and we got eventually

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we got to this It wasn't a clearing, but it

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wasn't thick like cedar trees and really thick woods or

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brush anymore. There was an opening and I remember coming

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into this opening and it was these great big pine

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trees there, and these pine trees were huge, and underneath

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the pine trees was all a lot of pine needles.

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And I remember stopping with the bike there thinking to myself, boy,

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it's soft. I don't know if you ever stepped on

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pine needles or not, but it's like a bedding it's

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very soft underneath the pine needles. So I said that

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my friend, his name was Tommy.

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I said to.

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Tommy, I said, hey, this is a perfect place to

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put up a tent, A nice soft spot here. And

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the pine trees provided great cover because we camped a

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lot out in the woods and one of the things

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that was common was these storms that would pop up

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thunder and lightning and heavy rain in the middle of

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the night. And the two man puff tent that we

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had was made of vinyl, and when it got wet

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in a rain, if you scraped up against it with

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your arm or your elbow, the water would come through

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the vinyl and get you wet. So we knew when

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it rained, don't touch the side of the tent because

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the water would come through and get you wet. So

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these pine trees provided a good safe cover from the

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weather if we were going to have any that night,

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which back in nineteen seventy six, we didn't know. We

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didn't have any weather forecast back then, but anyway, we

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decided to put the tent up underneath the group of

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pine trees there.

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Well, once we got the.

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Tent up, the next thing we did as kids was

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explored the area. We had never been back there before.

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It was pretty far back in the woods. We camped

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in the woods a lot, and camping at night, you

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could always hear, like cars going down a road. You

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could hear the tires at night when it was quiet.

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You could hear like an ambulance or a fire truck

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with its sirens or whistles. You could hear large car engines,

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or like Harley motorcycles with loud pipes. You could hear

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a motorcycle off in the distance, so you could hear

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when we.

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Were near things.

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You could always hear different noises and sounds through the woods. Well,

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we were back there and we couldn't hear anything, so

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I didn't know exactly where we were because we'd cut

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our way in.

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But I also.

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Knew that where we were there wasn't any houses or

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roads or construction or anything like that. It was kind

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of back there, pretty deep, in my opinion, We were

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pretty far away from everything. So we explored the area

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there and we were kind of in a valley, and

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I noticed we always looked to ride our bikes on

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and of the trails. We were racing motocross too, also,

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so we liked to race these bikes, so we would

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look for places where we could do a jump or

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a hill, or climb a side of a hill hill

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climbing type stuff, or or go around a turn and

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make a burm with the wheels, you know, to go

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around faster to build up the dirt and all that.

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So we were walking around through the area there and

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we were looking and I noticed down below us, a

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little way east was a little bit of a low

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lying area and it was either a wet land there

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or it might have been dry, and it was previously

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a wet land because you could tell that with the

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green grass that grows up. I don't want to call

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the swamp, but like, if it rained really hard, it

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would probably be water laying in there, and it could

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be a swamp at different times of the year, but

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it most probably a little bit dry back then. And

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right before or right after that low lying area, there

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was an embankment it went up and I walked over

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to the embankment and I looked up at because the

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first thing I'm thinking is, gee, can we take our

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motorcycles up there? How much of a challenge it would be.

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And it was very brushy, it was very thick embankment,

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and it was pretty steep and it went up you know,

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probably I don't know, fifty sixty eighty feet or something

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to the top of a ridge line up there. And

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I looked at that and thought, well, should we be

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trying to take our bikes up there to have some

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funneries and it's not worth it. So I determined that

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it wasn't worth trying to get the bikes up there,

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go through the low lying muddy area and then try

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to scale that hill on a motorcycle the ones we

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had probably wasn't going to be worth all that. So

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I turned around and realized that we're down this valley,

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there was a ridge up above us, and got to

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know our surroundings a little bit, and eventually it got dark,

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and here's where the encounter comes in. It got dark

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and we just went to sleep the tent. Now, the

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only thing we had as kids in those woods was

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we had two motorcycles, and we had our two machetes.

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We had two sleeping bags and a tent.

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That was it.

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We did not bring food with us. We didn't even

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have a flashlight with us. So that's all we had,

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and that's we were good with that. You know, that

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was the fun of it, that was the adventurous. So

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we just went to sleep and passed forward to sometime

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in the middle of the night. I don't know exactly

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what time it was. I wasn't paying any attention, but

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a loud noise woke me up, and I remember laying on.

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My back in a sleeping bag.

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We didn't have pillows, because we would use like a

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clothes like our sweater or some clothing item, you know,

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to put behind your head, because it was minimal what

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we could carry into the woods. But I was laying

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on my back in a sleeping bag, and I remember

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hearing a wor in the woods that woke me up,

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and it was a crunching noise. And so as soon

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as I woke up, I heard this crunch and it

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was way off in the distance. And then I heard

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a crunch again and it was way off in the distance,

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and then another crunch, and I got thinking to myself

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laying there, and I said, gee, I wonder what that is.

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Because the forest floor was very dry and there was

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a lot of dead leaves on it. There was a

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lot of sticks, dried up wood sticks, and when we

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were walking around the area, we were stepping on all

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the dry forest floor and we were making it crunch

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underneath our feet when we first got there and explored

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the area. So that crunching noise I had heard, I said, gee,

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that sounds like when I was just walking a couple

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hours ago. So I heard that crunching noise and I

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woke Tommy up. He was next to me in a

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sleeping bag, and I said, hey, I said, are you awaking.

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I ended up waking him up and he said, what.

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Do you want.

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I said, well, there's a crunching noise out in the

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woods that I'm not familiar with. You know, just listen,

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you'll hear it, and you know, then you hear that crunch, crunch, crunch.

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And what was weird was I had been sleeping in

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woods like that in a tent, you know, and I

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heard everything at night. Very common was whipper wheels. You

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would hear them, the birds, You would hear bullfrogs that

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were ponds croaking off in a distance. You could hear

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a lot of crickets and a lot of insects through

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the night. So I was familiar with all these noises.

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I was even familiar with regular animals walking through the woods.

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Like at night, Like raccoons were very common coming up

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to our tent. Possums were very common, and those type

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creatures you could hear them. They kind of scuffle around

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when they go through the woods, you can definitely tell.

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And they wander, and that's the keyword here, like most

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animals just wander, even deer. You can hear deer walking

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and you can hear them wandering through the woods like

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they're searching for food or whatever. But this crunching noise

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was completely different than what I'd ever heard, and it

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alarmed me. And so we just laid there and we

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started listening very intently. And the other thing was there

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was no noise in the woods whatsoever, which was a

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little weird because, like I said, usually heard birds or

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frogs or something. So the woods became dead silent, which

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was odd. And then this crunching noise, and this crunching

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noise just started getting louder and louder and louder, like

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something was walking and it was walking through the woods,

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and it was coming and I don't want to say

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towards us, but it don't coming directly towards us, but

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it was coming towards our direction.

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Based on the loudness that it was getting.

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And was dead silent, and we just kept listening and

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it got louder and louder and louder, and I could

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tell it was off to my right shoulder, which was

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where that ridgeline was that I originally looked at to

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take the bikes up that ridge line and up that embankment,

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and that crunching noise just kept getting louder and louder

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till it got parallel with us, so it was on

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my right side as I'm laying there, and it got

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so loud that I knew it was parallel with the

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tent now up that embankment. And then it stopped and

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we were both sitting in the tent and I said

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to Tommy, I said, that sounds like a man that's walking,

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and he agreed with me.

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He said, yeah, he said that sounds like a man.

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And I said to him, I said, well, did you

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tell your father you know where we were going? And

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he said no, And I said, well, my father doesn't

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know where we're going, because the first thing I thought

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of is our fathers are out looking for us. Maybe

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they think we're lost or something. So we talked about

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if it could have been a father looking for us,

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and we both decided, well, our dads can't. They don't

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know where we are, so they're not going to be

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coming out here because we were convinced it was a man.

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So it had stopped. And next thing we know, and

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I don't have the exact time, I don't know if

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it was a minute, five minutes or a couple of

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minutes or some seconds or whatever, but next thing I

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know is we heard it coming down the embankment. And

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it come down the embankment. It crashed through, brushed and

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you know all that deadwood I was telling you that

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was laying there on the forest floor, some sticks, leaves,

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limbs and things like that. And I because I knew

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that embankment, I've looked at it earlier that day, and

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I said, boy, whatever it is, it's coming.

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Down that embankment.

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So it comes down bankment and it literally walked up

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to the tent and we could hear it walking closer

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to the tent.

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And it stopped.

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And we were petrified because I thought for sure at

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that point we were going to see a flashlight. I

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was looking for the tent to light up. The tent

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was very thin vinyl and you could see like if

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there was a light inside the tent, you could see it,

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and if there was a light outside the tent, you'd

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be able to see it through the vinyl of the tent.

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It was very thin, and I thought to myself, well,

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somebody's going to put a light on us now, and

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somebody's gonna say something. So we sat there, and you know,

466
00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:43.079
originally I told Tommy, I said, well, let's just pretend

467
00:25:43.119 --> 00:25:45.200
we're sleep because we don't know what's out there. We

468
00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:47.599
don't know what's what this is or whatever. Let's just

469
00:25:47.599 --> 00:25:49.680
pretend we're sleep. We're not going to make any noise.

470
00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:53.200
Let's be quiet, just everybody, and let's hope this thing

471
00:25:53.279 --> 00:25:54.119
goes away because we.

472
00:25:54.079 --> 00:25:58.119
Don't know what it is. So so we waited. This

473
00:25:58.200 --> 00:26:00.559
is another thing. Don't remember how long it was. I

474
00:26:00.599 --> 00:26:01.079
don't have a.

475
00:26:01.079 --> 00:26:04.160
Concept of time, but anyway, there was a certain amount

476
00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:07.720
of time. The woods were dead quiet. We were dead quiet,

477
00:26:08.240 --> 00:26:11.920
and we were listening, and I did not hear any breathing.

478
00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:16.480
I did not hear any noise. It was dead silent.

479
00:26:16.680 --> 00:26:19.279
It was dead silent standing outside a tent, and the

480
00:26:19.319 --> 00:26:22.759
woods were dead silent. There was no noise whatsoever. And

481
00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:24.759
I didn't like I said. I thought there would be

482
00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:27.119
a flashlight. I thought I would hear somebody saying. So

483
00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:30.599
none of that happened. We just stood there was sat

484
00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:34.759
there frozen, scared, scared of death. Two little kids scared

485
00:26:34.799 --> 00:26:36.720
of death. Now we don't know what's about to happen.

486
00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:40.319
And just all of a sudden, it just turned around.

487
00:26:40.319 --> 00:26:43.759
And by the way, there was no odor, no smell, nothing, nothing,

488
00:26:43.799 --> 00:26:46.440
absolutely nothing, And all of a sudden it just turned

489
00:26:46.480 --> 00:26:50.519
around and it started walking back up the embankment where

490
00:26:50.519 --> 00:26:54.400
it came from, and we could hear it crunch, crunch, crunch,

491
00:26:54.519 --> 00:26:57.119
right through the woods back up on top of the hill.

492
00:26:57.559 --> 00:27:02.319
It got up to where it was and then continued

493
00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:05.559
on the path that it was going wherever it was going,

494
00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:09.480
and we could just hear it crunch, crunch and just

495
00:27:09.519 --> 00:27:13.160
walk away into the distance. And as long as I

496
00:27:13.160 --> 00:27:16.240
could hear it crunching through the woods coming to us,

497
00:27:16.519 --> 00:27:19.839
I could hear it crunching through the woods leaving us from.

498
00:27:19.680 --> 00:27:21.799
The point of where it came down the embankment.

499
00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:26.920
So, you know, the next thing we thought of was

500
00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:31.240
that it had to be an escape prisoner. That was

501
00:27:31.279 --> 00:27:34.920
what we determined happened. To us because at the time

502
00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:39.559
in the seventies, our local news had reported in Dutchess

503
00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:42.680
County by the way, that there was some prison escapes,

504
00:27:43.359 --> 00:27:46.319
and as little boys, you know, fourteen years old, we

505
00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:51.200
knew that that could be something that could happen in

506
00:27:51.279 --> 00:27:53.759
Huston Valley where these guys were running from the law.

507
00:27:54.319 --> 00:27:57.400
So we just chalked that up is that that had

508
00:27:57.440 --> 00:28:00.920
to be an escape prisoner because you know, he didn't

509
00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:03.599
have a flashlight and he was traveling through the woods

510
00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:08.559
at night. So that's kind of exactly how we figured that. Now,

511
00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:14.200
being petrified, after that happened, we waited till the crack

512
00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:16.559
at dawn, as you know, which was probably a couple

513
00:28:16.640 --> 00:28:18.519
hours away, so that might have been like say three

514
00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:22.319
o'clock in the morning, I'm guessing, don't know exactly, but

515
00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:25.720
say five thirty six o'clock, the you know, the light

516
00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:26.759
started coming up.

517
00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:28.440
And the minute the light came en.

518
00:28:28.440 --> 00:28:30.839
Up where we could get up and see, you know,

519
00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:33.559
we we got up as soon as we could see,

520
00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:36.880
and we we packed up the tent, the sleeping bags,

521
00:28:36.920 --> 00:28:40.039
we started a motorcycle, and we got out of there,

522
00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:44.200
and pretty much that was our encounter, and we really

523
00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:48.480
didn't talk about it too much. Our thing was that

524
00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:51.240
we didn't really know of any big foots back then.

525
00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:54.720
We we we really weren't familiar. We didn't think it

526
00:28:54.759 --> 00:28:56.920
was a big foot. We didn't really know of any.

527
00:28:57.039 --> 00:29:00.680
We wouldn't we didn't hear of any. Now jump backwards

528
00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:04.000
a little bit in time. I do remember the Legend

529
00:29:04.039 --> 00:29:07.359
of Boggy Creek movie came out in the early seventies,

530
00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:10.319
and we did watch it, but that was something that

531
00:29:10.440 --> 00:29:14.319
we thought was like a monster movie. We didn't associate

532
00:29:14.440 --> 00:29:16.759
that with like a real life thing. Especially in our

533
00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:18.039
area where we grew up.

534
00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:20.319
We weren't aware of any big foot reports.

535
00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:23.200
If we had heard of any big foot reports like

536
00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:26.079
the Pattison Gimin film, that was something that was out

537
00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:28.720
in California, you know, way far away.

538
00:29:28.839 --> 00:29:31.599
There was nothing that we knew of around our place.

539
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:38.960
So now fast forward here that happened in nineteen seventy six.

540
00:29:39.759 --> 00:29:43.160
I never really, you know, thought about any kind of

541
00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:46.400
encounter or anything like that. So all these years went by,

542
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:51.720
and the next thing that happened to me with regarding

543
00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:58.160
my skeptical skepticism in a bigfoot was nineteen ninety six.

544
00:29:58.599 --> 00:30:02.079
I had the opportunity need to be a salesman out

545
00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:05.039
in the Midwest. So I went out to Pacific Northwest

546
00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:11.200
selling signs to businesses, and I traveled through northern California,

547
00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:14.759
went through the redwood forest out there, and stopped at

548
00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:19.119
a bunch of local businesses, and you know, everybody knows about,

549
00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:21.359
you know, Bluff Creek and all that, and I happened

550
00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:23.000
to drive through that area.

551
00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:26.119
And one of the things that happened to me out.

552
00:30:25.880 --> 00:30:30.599
There was I realized that everybody I spoke with in

553
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:34.640
that area believed in Bigfoot because of the Bluff Creek

554
00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:37.759
and all that. And if anybody's ever been out there

555
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:40.519
and you talk to people, they are all convinced that

556
00:30:40.599 --> 00:30:44.000
Bigfoot is real in that area and that either you know,

557
00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:48.000
one of their relatives a mother, a daughter, a grandfather,

558
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:48.920
an uncle or a.

559
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:50.680
Brother or whatever, father whatever.

560
00:30:51.039 --> 00:30:54.960
Most people will tell you stories of their family having

561
00:30:55.119 --> 00:30:58.559
encounters out there. And I was out there for a

562
00:30:58.599 --> 00:31:02.200
month or two working at area, and I left there

563
00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:04.039
and I came back to New York at the time,

564
00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:07.599
and I was convinced at that time that there are

565
00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:11.640
people that believe in Bigfoot, mainly from that area. So

566
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:15.400
even in ninety six, twenty years later after my encounter,

567
00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:20.000
I really didn't didn't put much into what happened to me.

568
00:31:20.079 --> 00:31:23.839
I didn't really tie those two things together, even though

569
00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:27.720
I was actually convinced in ninety six that people believe

570
00:31:28.039 --> 00:31:31.880
that there is a Bigfoot, all right. So fast forward

571
00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:38.400
to twenty eleven, twenty twelve. Everybody knows about the show

572
00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:44.880
that came on TV, Finding Bigfoot. Well, I had thought

573
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:48.920
that the show was interesting, so I started becoming a

574
00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:53.680
Finding Bigfoot fan just for entertainment. And I thought that

575
00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:57.119
the characters there, Bobo and Cliff and Burne and all,

576
00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:02.079
I thought they were entertaining. So I started watching that show,

577
00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:08.000
and there was a night when it came on. I

578
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:12.680
think it was twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, so it was

579
00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:15.400
a few seasons into it.

580
00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:19.240
I had my family watching it with me.

581
00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:22.160
I have a wife and two daughters, and I had

582
00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:26.000
told my wife and two daughters probably about this encounter

583
00:32:26.119 --> 00:32:28.680
at one time, and I just said, you know, we

584
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:31.400
don't really know what it was. It was probably a man,

585
00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:37.519
not sure. So we're watching this show Finding Bigfoot, and

586
00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:41.039
it was one of the episodes where they were in

587
00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:46.359
upstate New York covering either the Adiron Dacks or the

588
00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:50.319
Hudson Valley. I'm not sure, but I'm sitting there on

589
00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:52.599
the couch and I'm watching the show, and I believe

590
00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:56.000
it was Matt Moneymaker, and I got my whole family

591
00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:59.680
there with me, and I believe that he sat on

592
00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:04.720
the show that there was big foots in the Hudson Valley,

593
00:33:05.359 --> 00:33:09.960
and he said that they had had sightings there in

594
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:14.079
the seventies and eighties and whatnot, and that he believed

595
00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:18.960
that they traveled from the Green Mountains through the Hudson

596
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:22.519
Valley down to the Pocono Mountains.

597
00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:23.440
All right.

598
00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:27.200
Well, when he said that, I just about flew up

599
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:32.599
off the couch because whatever was walking through the woods

600
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:35.440
when I was in that tent, there was one thing

601
00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:39.240
about that that stuck out. Whatever it was, it was traveling.

602
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:43.400
And like I said, something was traveling. It was not

603
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:47.559
wandering like a deer or an animal. It was traveling

604
00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:50.720
from point eight to point B. And that was something

605
00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:54.000
that shocked me. But I never put it together until

606
00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:58.480
Matt Moneymaker said they travel from the ground. And if

607
00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:04.359
where my encounter was was exactly that path, if you

608
00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:08.159
drew a line from the Green Mountains or the Berkshire Mountains,

609
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:09.960
you know, over that mountain range.

610
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:14.519
By Massachusetts Vermont. If you if you drew a.

611
00:34:14.599 --> 00:34:20.199
Line, that's right where I was in that tent, straight

612
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:25.440
down to northern part of New Jersey and New York

613
00:34:25.519 --> 00:34:28.639
and New Jersey state line through the Hudson Valley to

614
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:32.519
the top of the Poconos right there. And that's that

615
00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:35.800
really woke me up, because that was a shock to

616
00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:38.840
me that he'd mentioned that, and that was kind of

617
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:44.119
like another piece of a puzzle where I started thinking about, gee,

618
00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:47.440
you know, what was that? And that was, like I said,

619
00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:50.559
probably twenty fifteen, which is like ten years from now.

620
00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:55.400
So fast forward to last year.

621
00:34:57.360 --> 00:34:58.639
I bought a.

622
00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:03.079
TV with the Internet capabilities on it, which I didn't

623
00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:07.039
have one before that, and you know, my kids started

624
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:09.159
telling me, hey, Dad, you know you need to watch

625
00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:11.440
YouTube and check out these new.

626
00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:12.800
Platforms and all that stuff.

627
00:35:12.840 --> 00:35:15.199
So right away I decided, well, I'm gonna, you know,

628
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:17.719
do a search bar with the Bigfoot stuff so you

629
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:21.159
guys come up and all the different YouTube videos. So

630
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:26.480
I started watching some of those things, just as has

631
00:35:26.559 --> 00:35:30.840
something to do. And the next thing I find out

632
00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:34.920
is about Whitehall, New York, which I didn't know anything

633
00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:38.000
about Whitehall, New York, and I'm sure there's a lot

634
00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:41.039
of people that are listening to this podcast and hear

635
00:35:41.119 --> 00:35:44.599
about the Beast of Whitehall. So I started watching all

636
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:48.679
that and then I'm watching that and that was the

637
00:35:48.760 --> 00:35:52.079
summer of seventy six that they said on the white

638
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:54.679
Hall Show. And I'm like, well, that was the year

639
00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:57.480
in the summer it was August, I believe, and I

640
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:01.880
think Whitehall was seventy six and all, and I'm like, wow, jeez.

641
00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:04.199
And then you know that thing with them traveling through

642
00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:07.400
our area, and like, boy, there's a lot of coincidences

643
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:13.199
here just happening to me. So anyway, I learned about that,

644
00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:16.639
and then of course I started investigating more stuff. And

645
00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:19.800
then I found out also that there was a sighting

646
00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:23.760
in Kinderhook, New York. I believe that one was a

647
00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:27.519
little bit a couple of years later, but that the Whitehall,

648
00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:30.920
the Kinderhook and then the Red Hook and and then

649
00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:34.920
I also learned that there was some sightings in Sussex,

650
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:39.280
New Jersey back in the seventies in the same time frame.

651
00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:43.440
And that's that, you know, the area that met Moneymaker

652
00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:45.960
had put together where he said they traveled from the

653
00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:49.159
Green Mountains or whatever, down through Upson Valley into the

654
00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:51.880
top of the Poconos. And I don't know if any

655
00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:55.760
researchers have run into what I have here lately, but

656
00:36:56.360 --> 00:37:01.239
it's it's a really weird coincidence that all these locations

657
00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:03.599
of these sightings and then that map if you go

658
00:37:03.760 --> 00:37:07.639
look through the Hudson Valley there. I mean, there's a

659
00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:11.719
lot of coincidences here. And I just thought to myself, Man,

660
00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:14.920
you know, there's a lot of coincidence here where you know,

661
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:18.239
maybe maybe something, maybe maybe something.

662
00:37:18.159 --> 00:37:18.480
Is of this.

663
00:37:18.679 --> 00:37:22.079
But but I do know one thing about my encounter,

664
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:24.920
and I have told this to people now that this

665
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:28.719
has all come come forth, like I'm describing it here.

666
00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:33.559
Whatever whatever was through the woods that night, I am

667
00:37:33.679 --> 00:37:38.039
convinced that it was Bypeedle. I'm also convinced that it

668
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:43.199
was extremely heavy. I'm also convinced that it was very athletic.

669
00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:46.840
And I'm also convinced that it could see in a dark.

670
00:37:48.079 --> 00:37:51.599
Those four things right there. Nobody can tell me that

671
00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:57.559
that's not true. Bipeedle, extremely heavy, very athletic, and could

672
00:37:57.599 --> 00:38:00.320
see in a dark. I mean that there's no way

673
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:03.920
that those those four things aren't a fact about the

674
00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:08.519
encounter I had. So, you know, having said all that,

675
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:12.119
that's that's where I am today. And I'm just shocked

676
00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:18.000
over all of the people that are reporting sightings such

677
00:38:18.039 --> 00:38:21.679
as myself now that we have platforms such as yours,

678
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:25.679
and I think there's a lot of people probably that

679
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:30.119
have encounters from the seventies and the eighties that such

680
00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:33.280
as myself that may not have realized their encounters kind

681
00:38:33.320 --> 00:38:35.239
of like like what happened to me a little bit,

682
00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:38.880
but also ones that may have encounters where they just

683
00:38:39.079 --> 00:38:43.400
haven't gone public with them and told the story such

684
00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:48.480
as I'm doing now. I think that there's probably a

685
00:38:48.559 --> 00:38:51.039
lot of people my age. I'm sixty two this year,

686
00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:54.760
and there's there's probably And I encourage people, if you

687
00:38:54.920 --> 00:38:58.119
have a story or something like that, to come out

688
00:38:58.199 --> 00:39:00.760
and meet with you guys here on a podcast and

689
00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:06.039
tell your story, because this phenomenon is really really taken

690
00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:09.360
off with these coincidences. And and then I started looking

691
00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:13.360
at Jeffrey Meldrum and the research he's doing out in

692
00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:17.800
Idaho State University, which is very impressive. And also we

693
00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:20.639
have the Survivor Man. I started watching his stuff just

694
00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:24.280
recently and he's getting involved in it. Very credible guy,

695
00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:28.960
you know, searching for evidence. So you know, you got

696
00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:31.960
the entertainment factor of a lot of this stuff going

697
00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:34.639
on with Bigfoot, but then you also have some serious

698
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:37.960
studies on it. And I'm just coming out with my

699
00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:42.119
story because, uh, I think it's worth bringing this out

700
00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:46.679
for people who like myself that are that are our age.

701
00:39:47.159 --> 00:39:50.079
And now there's platforms where we can where we can

702
00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:54.239
go ahead and and and let everybody know what we've experienced.

703
00:39:55.519 --> 00:39:59.679
Absolutely, what an interesting account. Thank you for sharing it, Scott.

704
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:03.480
There's just there's some interesting things that I noticed too.

705
00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:08.639
It just it makes sense that something would have come

706
00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:12.360
and check out checked out your campsite due to the

707
00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:17.760
fact that, I mean, you're you're slowly riding those motorcycles

708
00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:21.559
into this area. Let's say if there was something nearby,

709
00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:26.719
it's gonna check out. Okay, what's one? What's making all

710
00:40:26.760 --> 00:40:31.239
the noise too? What's you know? They probably were able

711
00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:36.280
to figure out, hey, what's cutting down the branches of

712
00:40:36.360 --> 00:40:41.159
the trees as well. But it is extremely interesting and compelling,

713
00:40:41.360 --> 00:40:45.360
especially what you brought up that you know, it had

714
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:47.239
to be able to see in the dark. You did

715
00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:53.360
not see a flashlight. It was dark. Did you notice

716
00:40:55.599 --> 00:40:59.679
anything about the sounds of the forest during that time?

717
00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:04.760
It was very quiet and you couldn't hear the whipper

718
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:08.519
wheels or the frogs, the bullfrogs. It was the whole time.

719
00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:11.880
All you could hear was that crunching of the footsteps,

720
00:41:11.920 --> 00:41:14.920
and it was very loud. It echoed through the forest.

721
00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:19.039
You know. It woke me up. And yeah, it was

722
00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:21.880
very loud. And talking about to your.

723
00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:24.880
Point, I will tell you, I don't know if it

724
00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:28.679
had a keen sense of smell and it approached the tent,

725
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:33.400
or it had a keen sense of sight somehow, whatever

726
00:41:33.559 --> 00:41:36.199
it was didn't need light and knew we were there.

727
00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:39.119
And I can't explain that either. But I will tell

728
00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:43.400
you the bikes that we rode, we went through a

729
00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:46.960
lot of streams, and when the engine got hot from

730
00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:50.559
water being splashed on the motors or the motorcycles and

731
00:41:50.960 --> 00:41:53.000
also mud. We went through a lot of mud, a

732
00:41:53.079 --> 00:41:55.199
lot of water, and when it splashed up on the

733
00:41:55.320 --> 00:41:58.079
exhaust pipe or the head of the engine. You could

734
00:41:58.079 --> 00:42:02.800
always smell like a burn smell off those trail bikes

735
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:07.159
we had, and so there was an odor of like

736
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:11.800
a heated machine you know, hot engine type odor that

737
00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:15.280
you could smell off of those engines that lasted there

738
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:18.079
quite a while because that that mud would stick to

739
00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:20.519
it and burn it into the into the paint of

740
00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:22.400
the engine, you know, and it would smell.

741
00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:24.119
For quite a while with the engines hot.

742
00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:27.719
And and also the bikes when we parked them on

743
00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:31.039
their kickstands and they leaned over on a kickstand the

744
00:42:31.159 --> 00:42:34.440
carburetor we had carburetors back then on them, and they

745
00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:36.639
had a foot bowl in them, and the gas would

746
00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:40.000
slowly drip out and maybe overflow a little bit. So

747
00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:42.840
so like when you park your bikes, they would stink

748
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:46.039
for a while of this hot, you know, heated engine

749
00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:47.239
with mud and water on it.

750
00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:49.840
You would smell like that, and then you would also

751
00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:53.559
smell gas. And it was common for them to stink.

752
00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:55.480
Like gas for an hour or two, you know, or

753
00:42:55.559 --> 00:42:59.159
whatever after after we parked them on the kickstands. So

754
00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:02.920
so I know, the bikes probably had an odor through

755
00:43:03.000 --> 00:43:06.400
the woods that evening. And the other side of that

756
00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:10.119
was as far as seeing, you know, the tent was

757
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:14.400
bright orange and the bikes were there next to it,

758
00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:20.320
parked on their kickstands, but the moonlight where we were

759
00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:23.599
under those pines. It was dark under there. We were

760
00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:27.079
shaded by any moonlight. I don't even remember moonlight.

761
00:43:26.760 --> 00:43:27.559
To be honest with you.

762
00:43:28.679 --> 00:43:30.519
It wasn't like we were in a field where we

763
00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:32.760
were all lit up and you could see us with moonlight.

764
00:43:33.079 --> 00:43:36.000
We were under a canopy. We were under a thick

765
00:43:36.199 --> 00:43:40.239
canopy of pine trees. So even walking through that forest,

766
00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:43.599
even looking if you could even I'm not sure if

767
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:45.639
I've never been able to see at night, but if

768
00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:47.840
something could see at night, I'm not sure how much

769
00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:51.159
vision they could even have from that ridge line down

770
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:54.639
to where our tent was, with the motorcycles park next

771
00:43:54.679 --> 00:43:58.400
to it, underneath those thick pine trees, in that dark

772
00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:02.280
area where we were the forest, And like I said,

773
00:44:02.360 --> 00:44:04.519
well that's another thing, you know, to this day, to

774
00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:09.000
this day, I'm just amazed at whatever had whatever it was,

775
00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:12.559
didn't have a flashlight, and now thinking even had a flashlight,

776
00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:15.199
had a heck, did it even know where we were

777
00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:16.840
to come down that embankment, to.

778
00:44:16.920 --> 00:44:19.599
Walk over to where the tent was. It's so much

779
00:44:19.639 --> 00:44:21.079
stuff just doesn't make sense.

780
00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:23.920
And like I said, as boys, we just figured it

781
00:44:24.079 --> 00:44:25.920
had to be a man, and but we didn't we

782
00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:28.480
couldn't explain why a man would be out there, and

783
00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:30.639
then we couldn't figure out how a man would be

784
00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:33.119
out there without a flashlight because we thought, hey, either

785
00:44:33.159 --> 00:44:35.280
I have that flashlight own in the mill and night

786
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:39.360
like that, they walked through the woods and that's the story.

787
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:44.199
Absolutely, it's such such a weird account. Over the years

788
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:49.400
when you were still in that area, did you ever

789
00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:55.639
hear any stories or anything about other people having weird

790
00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:59.239
experiences or maybe Bigfoot related things happen in the Red

791
00:44:59.280 --> 00:44:59.800
Hook area?

792
00:45:01.639 --> 00:45:05.679
Well, no, you know, absolutely not, and that's one of

793
00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:08.800
the things that has stumped me for all these years.

794
00:45:08.920 --> 00:45:09.079
You know.

795
00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:13.199
One is in the seventies, nobody had any technology with

796
00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:16.239
like we do now, with cell phones or cameras and

797
00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:19.639
stuff like that, you know, like we do readily available today.

798
00:45:20.760 --> 00:45:23.679
You know, we had black and white TV. You know,

799
00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:27.559
we had three channels. You know, we had a wall

800
00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:29.920
phone and it was a party line where you had

801
00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:31.639
to pick up the phone and see if like there

802
00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:34.840
was five other people talking, because it's called the party line.

803
00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:37.760
Back then, our phone company in Red Hook had the

804
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:40.719
patch cords where you had to notify the operator you

805
00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:44.480
want to make a call. So yeah, the technology back

806
00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:48.199
then was was nothing like it is today. And no,

807
00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:53.159
we never heard of really anything of any other reports,

808
00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:56.519
and we probably wouldn't have now now. I will tell

809
00:45:56.599 --> 00:45:59.679
you back in Red Hook, back in the day, there

810
00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:03.079
was UFO reports back then, though, we did hear about

811
00:46:03.320 --> 00:46:08.760
UFOs because there there was what they call a UFO

812
00:46:08.920 --> 00:46:12.599
flat along the Taconic State Parkway which was right near

813
00:46:12.679 --> 00:46:16.800
where we lived also, and there was a big UFO

814
00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:20.199
flat back then, and we had UFO investigators coming in

815
00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:22.800
I think as a little later, probably closer to the

816
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:26.599
eighties than in the seventies. But there was reports of

817
00:46:26.840 --> 00:46:29.400
UFOs back then that we were aware, but never a

818
00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:29.960
big foot.

819
00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:36.760
That's that's very very interesting and really not surprising that

820
00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:41.840
there would be a connection to some other paranormal thing

821
00:46:42.199 --> 00:46:47.360
like UFOs did. After you had this experience, did anything

822
00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:51.920
else weird seemed to follow you in your life or

823
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:56.320
was this the main weird thing that has happened so far?

824
00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:05.400
No, oh, you mean regarding anything paranormal or just bigfoot related.

825
00:47:05.480 --> 00:47:08.760
I didn't have a paranormal thing happened to me, But

826
00:47:09.159 --> 00:47:13.400
like in two thousand and four or five, I think

827
00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:16.000
two thousand and five, I had a paranormal thing happened

828
00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:17.920
to me, but that was in a house and that

829
00:47:18.079 --> 00:47:22.360
was totally different. But this thing that I think I

830
00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:25.920
had a Bigfoot encounter with was pretty much the only

831
00:47:26.039 --> 00:47:29.239
thing regarding like the woods and being out there in

832
00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:34.199
the woods having an encounter. And like I said, this

833
00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:38.800
was something that happened in the I think nineteen seventy six,

834
00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:42.639
but since then really nothing, I've never had anything.

835
00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:48.159
Else happened, gotcha. It's just something i'd check. Sometimes individuals

836
00:47:48.280 --> 00:47:52.079
that have had encounters of some kind with Bigfoot, they

837
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:56.440
will later on in life have other things happen, whether

838
00:47:56.519 --> 00:48:00.119
it's you know, as you said, sometimes more paranormal, but

839
00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:04.639
there seems to be some connection between the two. So

840
00:48:04.760 --> 00:48:07.119
you're saying it is more of like a haunted house

841
00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:07.639
type thing.

842
00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:13.079
Well, I'll just it happened. I'll just tell you real quick.

843
00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:17.960
I'm not embarrassed about it. But we were my wife

844
00:48:18.000 --> 00:48:20.840
and I were together. We were we were actually living

845
00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:22.519
with my mother at the time.

846
00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:24.159
We started a.

847
00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:28.119
Business together and we moved to a new location in

848
00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:31.559
the country from from upstate New York, and my mom

849
00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:35.920
wanted us to come live with her, and she had

850
00:48:35.960 --> 00:48:38.199
a big house, so she said hey, come on down

851
00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:39.000
live here.

852
00:48:39.119 --> 00:48:39.480
Started.

853
00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:42.280
I have multiple companies at the time, she said, start

854
00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:45.280
a company down here, live with me for you know,

855
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:47.800
a year or so to you get the business going.

856
00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:49.800
And then when you guys get the business going, you

857
00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:52.280
can go ahead and buy your own house to where

858
00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:55.280
we are now. Actually so so we moved in with

859
00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:58.079
my mom just to get a company started here, which

860
00:48:58.119 --> 00:48:59.199
we still have to this day.

861
00:48:59.480 --> 00:48:59.880
That's fun.

862
00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:03.519
Some years ago and we were living we were living

863
00:49:03.599 --> 00:49:07.599
in one of her bedrooms in her house, and I

864
00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:12.559
worked every night till eleven or twelve o'clock starting this company.

865
00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:15.599
And that's you know, seven days a week, working as

866
00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:18.000
much as I could. And I got home from work

867
00:49:18.079 --> 00:49:20.840
one night at eleven pm and my wife was in

868
00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:24.000
the bed sleeping in the room we had at the time,

869
00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:26.760
and I took a shower, got home from work, took

870
00:49:26.800 --> 00:49:29.199
a shower, and I go to get into bed and

871
00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:34.760
she's dead asleep. And as I'm ready to lay into bed,

872
00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:39.119
this this big, loud voice comes over in the room.

873
00:49:39.519 --> 00:49:43.719
And the voice said two words. It said out you

874
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:47.880
and it was a deep It was a deep voice

875
00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:50.280
from a man, and it said out O U T

876
00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:52.840
And it said you yow you. And I heard it

877
00:49:53.000 --> 00:49:55.239
clear as day. It just like yelled it in the room.

878
00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:59.800
My wife was sleeping, and you know, I said, hey,

879
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:02.960
I said, did you just hear that? And she was

880
00:50:03.039 --> 00:50:06.000
all groggy, have asleep and she says, yeah, I heard it.

881
00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:09.599
She goes who was it? And I'm sitting there. I go, well,

882
00:50:09.639 --> 00:50:11.559
that's the problem. I don't know who it was.

883
00:50:12.440 --> 00:50:15.400
And she said, well, well, you know, who are you

884
00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:17.840
talking to? And I said, I'm not talking on nobody.

885
00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:20.920
It was a voice in the room. And then I

886
00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:23.840
got thinking it was really weird to hear two words

887
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:26.679
out you. So I asked her, I go, let me

888
00:50:26.760 --> 00:50:27.519
ask you a question.

889
00:50:27.639 --> 00:50:29.559
I go, you heard it? And she goes, yeah, who

890
00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:31.480
was it? And I said I don't know who was

891
00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:34.000
And I said what did you hear? You know?

892
00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:36.519
And you know, this is kind of funny, it's going

893
00:50:36.599 --> 00:50:38.840
to make people laugh. But she said it sounded like

894
00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:43.400
somebody said f you. And I said, no, it was

895
00:50:43.559 --> 00:50:44.320
not f you.

896
00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:46.000
It was out you.

897
00:50:47.079 --> 00:50:48.840
And she goes, well, who said that? And I said,

898
00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:52.000
I don't know, said they come over the room. It's

899
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:54.639
like way yeah that And to this day, you know,

900
00:50:55.159 --> 00:50:57.480
but that was I that's a sign somebody telling me

901
00:50:57.599 --> 00:50:59.920
to go ahead and move out and buy my own house,

902
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:04.280
which we did. I bought, you know, we were looking

903
00:51:04.320 --> 00:51:06.440
for a house. Like the next day we found a house.

904
00:51:06.519 --> 00:51:09.480
We bought the house, and we moved out. But today

905
00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:11.760
I can't, you know, we'd make a joke about now.

906
00:51:11.880 --> 00:51:13.480
But it was clearly out you.

907
00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:15.480
It was not f you, it was out you.

908
00:51:15.639 --> 00:51:18.079
It was out I heard it as clear as day.

909
00:51:18.760 --> 00:51:20.679
And like I said, she was sleeping and thought it

910
00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:22.440
was few, and I said, no, it wasn't that few.

911
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:23.519
It was out you.

912
00:51:25.159 --> 00:51:28.480
That's wild. Oh my goodness. You definitely do hear weird

913
00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:31.880
stuff like that every once in a while, that's yeah.

914
00:51:32.440 --> 00:51:36.559
And I can I cannot explain that. You know, there's

915
00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:39.079
two things in my life I had no explanation for.

916
00:51:39.199 --> 00:51:42.400
And one was the encounter I described the day. Uh,

917
00:51:42.679 --> 00:51:45.400
Like I said, that was something heavy. It was bipedal,

918
00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:48.079
it was athletic to scale up and down the embankment,

919
00:51:48.559 --> 00:51:50.880
and it could see in the dark. I am, I'll

920
00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:53.159
swear on a stack of Bibles that that is the

921
00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:57.320
truth on that. I cannot explain how something walked up

922
00:51:57.360 --> 00:51:59.199
to that tent in the middle of the night, in

923
00:51:59.239 --> 00:52:02.920
the pitch dark like that and then walked away. And

924
00:52:03.039 --> 00:52:06.079
I cannot explain how somebody told me out you in

925
00:52:06.199 --> 00:52:08.199
my bedroom one night and it was only two words,

926
00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:10.239
and it was out and it was you, and it

927
00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:11.679
was very loud, and it was.

928
00:52:11.760 --> 00:52:12.559
Clear as a day.

929
00:52:13.760 --> 00:52:15.840
I could play it back in my head like it

930
00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:19.480
happened yesterday, and that was probably two thousand and three

931
00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:23.039
or four. And believe me, I woke up the next

932
00:52:23.159 --> 00:52:25.800
morning told my mom, thanks for everything. It's time for

933
00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:26.559
me to get out.

934
00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:30.639
Then I'm buying the house and we did.

935
00:52:31.400 --> 00:52:35.519
That's funny, Well, Scott, it's such a such an interesting

936
00:52:36.119 --> 00:52:41.280
account about another occurrence in the Hudson Valley. I just

937
00:52:41.320 --> 00:52:43.960
want to say thank you for coming on and for

938
00:52:44.239 --> 00:52:47.440
sharing what you experienced back on that day in nineteen

939
00:52:47.519 --> 00:52:50.719
seventy six. It is very, very interesting. It'd be interesting

940
00:52:50.760 --> 00:52:54.599
if other people have experienced things in the Red Hook area,

941
00:52:54.679 --> 00:52:57.360
and if they have, they can feel free to reach

942
00:52:57.440 --> 00:53:00.960
out to me. They can email big Foot Society at

943
00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:02.880
gmail dot com and I'd love to talk to them.

944
00:53:03.199 --> 00:53:08.280
So absolutely, we thank you guys for all you do

945
00:53:08.800 --> 00:53:12.320
with the podcast and getting people to call in.

946
00:53:12.559 --> 00:53:15.480
Hopefully maybe some people hear the story of mine.

947
00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:19.079
I'm sixty two, and and you know, maybe there was

948
00:53:19.199 --> 00:53:23.079
other people such as myself that might come forward and tell,

949
00:53:23.559 --> 00:53:26.960
tell and encounter such as this. And I mean, we're

950
00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:29.280
looking at almost fifty years ago, and here I am,

951
00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:32.639
for the first time, you know, coming out with this

952
00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:36.719
only because of all the events I described, All these

953
00:53:36.800 --> 00:53:39.880
pieces just started coming together, and I thought myself, there's

954
00:53:40.199 --> 00:53:43.840
there's just so many coincidences here. Maybe maybe I do

955
00:53:44.039 --> 00:53:45.400
have something here I can share.

956
00:53:46.320 --> 00:53:46.960
So I did it.

957
00:53:55.159 --> 00:53:57.519
My name is Jody. I'm from the Lee Chick band

958
00:53:57.599 --> 00:54:01.719
About your Boy. I grew up on the reserve. My

959
00:54:01.840 --> 00:54:04.880
ASI right now is fifty seven. It wasn't until the

960
00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:07.880
time my dad passed away at the age of fifty

961
00:54:08.679 --> 00:54:11.719
that I've first seen bigfoot. I've heard many encounters from

962
00:54:11.800 --> 00:54:17.440
my family, my Nokomis which means grandma, and Ojibwei, my husband.

963
00:54:18.119 --> 00:54:21.079
We're still great friends today, but him and I when

964
00:54:21.119 --> 00:54:23.800
we used to do maple sugar camps out in the woods,

965
00:54:24.719 --> 00:54:27.840
we've seen tracks when he used to go deer hunting.

966
00:54:28.000 --> 00:54:31.199
We've seen many tracks that we've taken pictures of and recorded.

967
00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:36.519
And we've also heard Giji sabe, which means bigfoot in Ojibwei.

968
00:54:38.280 --> 00:54:41.239
I not only seen him once, but I've seen him

969
00:54:41.320 --> 00:54:45.719
twice my brothers. I have six brothers. One has passed

970
00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:53.639
since but from COVID. But we have experienced sounds, tracks,

971
00:54:54.480 --> 00:54:57.519
visions of Gichi Sabe Bigfoot.

972
00:54:59.239 --> 00:55:04.360
Nobody will for believe our stories, and either did I

973
00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:08.760
when my father and my nokomis and my mother and

974
00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:14.000
my brothers were telling me their stories of sightings. But

975
00:55:14.119 --> 00:55:19.119
it's till the day you see Gigi Sabe for yourself

976
00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:22.480
is the day that belief sets in.

977
00:55:23.719 --> 00:55:27.440
I'm a Christian. I believe in the Lord Jesus Christ

978
00:55:27.519 --> 00:55:30.000
died in the cross for our sins. Do I see

979
00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:35.280
Jesus No, but I feel him within my heart's soul

980
00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:43.079
in my mind. But Gichi Sabe, I just thought. All

981
00:55:43.159 --> 00:55:46.079
my friends and family growing up on the Leetech Indian

982
00:55:46.159 --> 00:55:50.920
Reservation were just full of it. Heard many stories, seen

983
00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:55.199
many tracks, and I've smelled him and heard him. But

984
00:55:55.320 --> 00:55:58.400
it wasn't till the day I seen him, not once

985
00:55:58.480 --> 00:56:02.239
but twice that I used to live next year to

986
00:56:02.320 --> 00:56:04.920
my next door to my parents, that I drove over there.

987
00:56:05.119 --> 00:56:08.280
I was so scared to leave my house. It was

988
00:56:08.360 --> 00:56:11.159
the second time that I ran for my house, jumped

989
00:56:11.159 --> 00:56:15.360
in my car and drove to my mom's about twenty

990
00:56:15.480 --> 00:56:18.840
yards away. I said, Mom, I just seen bigfoot. I

991
00:56:18.960 --> 00:56:22.079
just seen bigfoot. She goes, oh my goodness, let me

992
00:56:22.199 --> 00:56:24.719
hurry up and just mix this cake and put it

993
00:56:24.800 --> 00:56:29.800
in the oven. It was winter time, so she started

994
00:56:29.800 --> 00:56:32.599
clearing her truck off and getting the car to start,

995
00:56:32.679 --> 00:56:34.519
and I was just sitting inside the house. I'm like, mom,

996
00:56:34.639 --> 00:56:36.480
getting the house, getting the house. He's right over there

997
00:56:36.519 --> 00:56:41.719
by my house. And she and I waited for about

998
00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:45.079
fifteen minutes till all the snow kind of melted off

999
00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:47.440
of what she brushed off. Because I wasn't going outside

1000
00:56:47.480 --> 00:56:51.519
and I usually do everything for my parents. We drove

1001
00:56:51.599 --> 00:56:57.280
over there and she was praying in Ojibwe and told

1002
00:56:57.760 --> 00:57:00.480
Chi Sabe to not show itself to me anymore for

1003
00:57:00.559 --> 00:57:03.239
your scare. And my daughter, my mom took her a

1004
00:57:03.280 --> 00:57:06.559
little flashlight and she ran around my camper, and she's

1005
00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:10.519
seen the tracks. If she would have never ever ever

1006
00:57:10.679 --> 00:57:14.239
seen those tracks, I don't think any of my siblings

1007
00:57:14.639 --> 00:57:19.519
or my grown children would have believed me. Am I

1008
00:57:20.360 --> 00:57:22.519
glad my mom's seen the track. She's always told me

1009
00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:29.559
as an elder. An Ojiboe elder never tell people that

1010
00:57:29.639 --> 00:57:34.000
you've seen Bigfoot, but now I am getting a voice

1011
00:57:34.679 --> 00:57:38.840
seven years later, going on eight. He is real or

1012
00:57:38.960 --> 00:57:42.800
it is real, And I believe they go through portal dimensions,

1013
00:57:43.400 --> 00:57:47.000
and I believe they can become like a cloak. They

1014
00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:49.960
like you can't see them, and I do believe that

1015
00:57:50.079 --> 00:57:55.320
they choose to let you see them. There's so many

1016
00:57:55.480 --> 00:58:01.440
things in the Ojibwei culture that I believe today that

1017
00:58:01.960 --> 00:58:03.679
Getty Sabe is real.

1018
00:58:06.159 --> 00:58:08.639
If you'd like to share a voicemail to be potentially

1019
00:58:08.719 --> 00:58:12.079
featured on the show as well, head over to Bigfoot

1020
00:58:12.119 --> 00:58:15.480
Society Podcast dot com and hit the Share your Encounter button.

1021
00:58:17.800 --> 00:58:19.159
Just wanted to take a minute to say thank you

1022
00:58:19.239 --> 00:58:21.840
for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society Podcast.

1023
00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:25.639
Scott's account reminds us that sometimes the most wild thing

1024
00:58:25.719 --> 00:58:28.320
in the woods isn't teeth or claws, it's the deafening

1025
00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:32.119
silence that comes right before reality changes. If you enjoy

1026
00:58:32.199 --> 00:58:35.079
this conversation, please subscribe to the channel on YouTube smash

1027
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1028
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1029
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1030
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1031
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1032
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bring more new listeners to the show. You've had your

1033
00:58:56.920 --> 00:58:59.960
own encounter, especially anywhere in the Hudson Valley or the Catskill,

1034
00:59:00.360 --> 00:59:03.800
New York, email me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

1035
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I'd love to hear your story, and don't forget Sasquatch

1036
00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:10.400
Summerfest is coming up soon July eleventh through the twelfth

1037
00:59:10.440 --> 00:59:14.280
and beautiful Oakridge, Oregon. I'll be there in person at

1038
00:59:14.360 --> 00:59:18.199
my booth waiting to listen to anyone who is wanting

1039
00:59:18.280 --> 00:59:21.679
to share their Bigfoot account to me face to face.

1040
00:59:22.280 --> 00:59:25.119
Make sure you use code BFS for a two day

1041
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admission pass for the price of a one day admission.

1042
00:59:29.599 --> 00:59:32.920
Get your tickets now at www dot Sasquatch Summerfest dot

1043
00:59:33.000 --> 00:59:37.199
com and hang out with us until next time. Never

1044
00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:40.280
stop wondering what else might be out there, and I'll

1045
00:59:40.320 --> 00:59:41.480
see you in the woods.