May 6, 2025

Boogerville: The Sasquatch Hotspot in Dale’s Backyard

What happens when a retired country singer from Alabama discovers that his backyard might be part of a Sasquatch migration route? In this gripping and atmospheric episode, we sit down with Dale Boswell — a singer, songwriter, and graphic designer who...

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Season 1

What happens when a retired country singer from Alabama discovers that his backyard might be part of a Sasquatch migration route? In this gripping and atmospheric episode, we sit down with Dale Boswell — a singer, songwriter, and graphic designer who went from Nashville stages to high strangeness in the Alabama woods. Dale shares what happened the day his daughter saw a “polar bear” watching his plywood Bigfoot cutout — and how that single moment led to years of personal investigation. You’ll hear stories of gliding creatures, sudden dizzy spells, captured video of a juvenile Sasquatch face, and even a possible Dogman encounter — all within yards of his home. This is more than a story about strange sightings; it’s about what happens when the unexplained shows up on your doorstep. Featuring locations across Alabama, New Mexico, and beyond — this is one you won’t forget.

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Boogerville FB group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/258795478123272

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You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron Tonight's

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story doesn't come from a hiker or a camper. It

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comes from a country singer who traded Nashville stages for

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the shadows of rural Alabama and found something watching him back.

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It started with a plywood silhouette and then came the

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polar bear in the tree line. But what Dale saw

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one morning while chasing a fox, a gliding figure, silent

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and smooth, left him dizzy, disoriented, and changed. This is

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in second hand. This is a firsthand story of a

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man who captured what might be one of the clearest

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faces of a juvenile sasquatch and stood just feet from

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something else in the dark. This is the story of

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Dale Boswell and the Bigfoot in Boogerville. So stay with us,

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all right, Bigfoot Society. I've got the privilege of talking

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to Dale today. Dale is a singer, songwriter, graphic designer,

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and a bigfoot researcher from the great state of Alabama.

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Welcome to the show, Dale, how's it going today.

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Hello, Jeremiah, It's going pretty good. The weather's nice and

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I've just been lazy all day, just hanging around, but

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it's honor to be here with you today. How are

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you doing, my friend.

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I'm doing well. We're starting to get better weather up

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here in Iowa. But you know, Dale, you're one of

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these guys I've I've heard a little bit about here

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and there, and sounds like you've got some really interesting

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accounts that will go over in a bit. But you know,

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first i'd love to hear was it the singer songwriter

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that came first or was it the bigfoot side that

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camp first?

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Well? Well, actually I've been singing and performing well pretty

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much all in my life since I was about twelve

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years old and pick up the guitar, get as far

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as professionally since about nineteen eighty five. It's when I

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started performing professionally and you know, formed the band and

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uh it really got into some some really prestigious events,

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you know. Uh, I had a lot of fun, met

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a lot of people. I've been fortunate enough to play

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some of the biggest stages uh in Nashville. Uh, right on, up,

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I had. I never made the Grand Old Lobbry, of course,

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that's that is all our US country singers goes. But

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but I did. Uh, I did play several other places

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that are well known in Nashville, you know, for instance,

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like like Tutsi's Orchid Lounge in the nash Nashville Palace

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and the Ernest Tubman Midnight Jamboree. Things like that. I

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recorded several songs that, uh. The the easiest way to

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get to them, I will say, just google my name,

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Dale Boswell and a lot of my my recorded music

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will come up. And some of the stuff you may

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have heard on the radio, because I did get quite

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a bit of radio airplay here and there. Uh. But

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anyway to ask you a question, this was I did

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this to about twenty eleven, and uh, I've been having

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lots of problems with my neck, uh my, and come

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to find out I had degenerative dis disease, and so

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I was dealing with that, and twenty eleven I had

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to have surgery on my neck. And uh, you know

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you got seven vertebra in your neck. Well, I had

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five of mine hues together with a titanium plate and

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ten screws. So my head don't move too much, you know,

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not like it used to. But it took away the pain.

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And the biggest thing is the titanium plate put some

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constriction on my vocal cords. And I never been the

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best singer in the world anyway, you know, but I

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was fortunate enough to be around the best and around

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a lot of good people. So I got to do

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a lot of cool things. But and it wouldn't be

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called like sound no really, no exceptional talent. I enjoyed

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doing and made uh you know, made a little bit

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of a career out of But anyway, this titanium plate

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put a uh constriction on my vocal cords, so I

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lost a lot of my range, you know what high

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notes I could hit or even low notes, and I

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was down to just based a whisper there for a while.

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And so I had to, uh to put my music

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career on hold. And and actually I had just signed,

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I mean like a month before, I had signed a

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major management contract out of Branson, Missouri. And that's when

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Branson was really going strong, you know, as far as

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a country music entertainment area. Uh. But then then the

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surgery come up and just kind of kno, you know,

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put an end to all that. But uh, anyways, uh,

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music had been my life, you know, for just well

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just my whole life. So I couldn't do that anymore.

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And and now big Putt. You know, I kind of

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enjoyed that a little bit when I was younger, you know,

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when I occasionally see stuff or read books. I Enjoorgian

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books about about cryptis and things like that. But I

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was never really a big, big band, I guess would

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say until this surgery. So I was laying laying around

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in the bed, you know, I couldn't do much. You know,

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it was kind of really depressed, you know, because I

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just couldn't play music anymore. Put the guitar up. And

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one day I was watching you know, I was watching YouTube,

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so I just put in the search engine Bigfoot and

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I'm like, oh my goodness, and there was so much

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stuff came up, and I just got deeper and deeper

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into it, and it really started, you know, really researching

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everything I could, you know, on the subject, and I

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got obsessed with it. You it would do that to you.

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And it was about twenty fourteen when I really got

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into the deep research. But anyway, that's what kind of

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got me into it was a I guess, a titanium

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plate in my neck bone.

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Oh that is fascinating. I mean, it's always super interesting

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to hear what it is that gets people, and sometimes

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it's it's a physical change like that. But it sounds

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like there was also another event that happened that really

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got you into you kind of alluded to there there's

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something that happened in twenty fourteen.

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There, Yeah, absolutely in twenty fourteen. I remember it was

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July twenty fourteen, matter of fact, and at that time

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like sad researching, but I was taking like everybody is,

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you know, big puts not around my neighborhood there, and

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if they're going to be in it, they're gonna be

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way out there. I'm gonna have to ride down some

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big dirt road somewhere, you know, you know how you

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get into it. But anyway, one morning, well, actually, let

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me take you back to the A few days before,

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I had just built and and being a being a

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graphics designer and illustrator was was was my real job,

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through and through my life, uh and and I and

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I was honored to work for some really major companies

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and do some really cool stuff and in the in

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the world of design and marketing and advertising. Anyway, it's

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another story. Anyway, I had just uh I took a

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a four by eight foot sheet apply wood and being

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an artist. I scaled up a front a front of

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you of of of of a of a big put

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or what most people described them to look like, you know,

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and and and they usually says about four feet white

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and about eight feet tall, so it would work out

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just perfect. So so so I took this this plywood

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and and I drew a silhouette of a big foot

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on it. Then then I cut it out and I

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painted it black, of course. And uh so I just

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painted one side and and and that night, you know,

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I I leaned it up against my car port so

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the paint was dry, and there was facing the tree

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line by my house. I lived kind of way out

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in the country and stuff, and my house is surrounded

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by woods, but it is facing the front side tree

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line of my house in my front yard. Well, the

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next morning, my daughter had a doctor's appointment. So as

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we were pulling out of the driveway, I stopped and

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she said, oh, let me ask you something. I said,

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what is it? She said, do we have polar bears

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in Alabama? I'm like, you said, polar bear? She said yeah.

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I said, oh no, no, And I stopped right there

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and I said, what do you mean. Well, she told

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me that that night she had She then went out

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to the front porch to smoke cigarette and she said,

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I looked over it, and she said, it looked like

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there was a big old polar bear was standing right

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over there. You know. It wasn't forty from my front door,

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in the tree line, she said, and it was looking

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at that thing you built. I said, what and the

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way and and and what what called me? Is a

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is a? She she didn't know nothing really about big

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put could care less about big puts, you know, and

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maybe she might have heard me talk a little bit,

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but she didn't care nothing about it, you know, just

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doing her young girl thing.

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Uh.

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But what she described what she saw was was was,

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in my opinion, absolutely a big put. And uh. And

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actually there's a there's a video you can look up

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that is on my video channel where I interviewed her

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and let her tell what she saw. And I think

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it's called white Big put in Alabama, White Big Put

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Sight in Alabama. But you can, like, say, you can

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google Dale Boswell and you can go to my YouTube

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site and see all of my my evidence type videos

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and things I've taken. Anyway, after she saw that and

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she did described it that's white. And and and could

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actually point to it, you know, to a limb, she

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said in its head was about right there, and it

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was right it eight feet tall, but she said it

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it was a she said it was. It was white,

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but she said she she said the legs she said

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where she said, you know how like like a labrador

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tree or something. And and that's kind of way she

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described its hair. She said, it was real pretty. You know,

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it's kind of blowing hair. You know, it wouldn't shave

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up bit. But uh uh, she said, like the she

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said the legs, like from the knees down were kind

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of orange looking. She said, you know, like a dog

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kind of gets in the mud. And its hair, you know,

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that's white, but it kind of orange. And she said,

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described it like that. I'm talking that's weird. Uh, but

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it makes sense. But then she said, but the way

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it moved, and she done her hand in a glide

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in motion. She said, it was like and it was gone,

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She said, just that quick, didn't make a sound, didn't move,

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did anything. Uh. And and back then you didn't talk

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about even though a lot of us knew it and

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would see things, you didn't talk about these things gliding

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or and everybody, even even Jeff Meldrum. Now I'll tell

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you about the sighting that he saw was a big

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old shadow and he said it was gliding, was the

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word he used. And actually the one I'll tell you

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about the minute that I saw was doing the same thing.

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Looked like it was gliding through the wars, like you know,

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it was gliding on a little winged feet or something.

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But anyway, when she described this in twenty fourteen, I

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knew she had seen something. So we didn't talk about

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that kind of stuff, you know, because they were considered woo,

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you know back then. So that really got me interested

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in my area. I'm like, oh my god, you know,

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I couldn't wait to get home. Then I tell to

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my wife about it. So we walked out in the

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woods behind myself and immediately started seeing tree structures the

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ones I've been seeing on TV, you know, the exis,

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the bends, uh, and brakes and things and just stuff

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that just didn't look look right, didn't look normal. But

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I had never thought to even look around at my

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in my woods. As much as I love my woods,

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you know, I just figured they were everywhere else. So basically,

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every every bit of evidence that I collected on video

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and on podo or in photos has been right here

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basically in my backyard. And I feel so fortunate, you know,

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because a lot of people, you know, go everywhere looking

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for these these boogers and uh and you know, and

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and here they are seems to be, you know, right

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where I live. And I was the same way I

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I think it was in twenty seventeen. I went to

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New Mexico uh to uh to uh in the bent

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that Brenda Harris was was having at her home a

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little conference thing, and I was entertaining and traveling with

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some folks like Mark Newbull and uh oh shoot uh

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we had o'pilopat book and my daughter went with us.

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But anyway, I was the same way, you know here

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here I went to New Baxico and we ended up

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on a mountain somewhere that was kind of another story.

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It's kind of cool and with a shawman and he

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took us way up on this mountain. Wow. And it

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was a that was a fascinating experience. But I have

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to tell you about that sometime. But uh, anyways, that's

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what got me looking in my own area. So I

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call I call my area booger Bille, And that's actually

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what I call my my private page, My big foot

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page is called booger Bille. If y'all want to look

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me up and come see some of the stuff that

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I kind of keep and show as far as uh,

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stuff that I believe is is the real deal. And

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of course the stuff but I know that I know

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one hundred percent is real because you know, I took

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it with my camera and in my yard, with my

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video my SD call, with my fingers hitting the record button.

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You know. Uh, but uh, that's uh, you know, when

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it comes to proof and all, you know how it is,

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we can't prove nothing, you know, from believing that. You know,

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all we can do is a it's kind of show

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we got and you know that you make up your

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own mind. And and I usually tell people that kind

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of you know, look at me a little weird and

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stuff and talk about it. Uh, but but are interested?

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I used to tell out Now, Now let me tell

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you that I said, if you ever see one of

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these buggers but you're on eye, you know who you're

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going to be. You're going to be me trying to

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prove to somebody else at what you saw. I said,

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so you don't just don't take don't you know, I

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don't take it too hard, but it can happen, and uh,

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you know, so so be easy on folks, on on

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believers and nods if you're a researcher, because you may

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see that's that same thing yourself.

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No, I agree, you know, there's usually people will say

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there's two sides of the community, and yeah, I think

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either side needs to both sides need to. So maybe

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learn a little bit more compassion. So you you got

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into things really quick. I mean that sighting of the

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polar bear in quotation marks on your property really kick

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things off. Did you ever have any any sighting yourself

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similar on your property as well?

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I did, and it happened. I actually I had a

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lot of stuff happen for some reason, and that I

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don't know if I was just looking hard or not.

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But the year twenty eighteen, which is a big year,

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seemed like everything I happened to capturing stuff back then.

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And I just never you know, I was never wanted

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to take anything I found and throw it out to

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the public and put it on every channel on whatever.

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I've always kind of kept stuff to myself. Help you

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up until the last couple of years, but in twenty eighteen.

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I actually believe it was May of twenty eighteen. Uh,

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I remember when it was about about nine thirty in

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the morning. It's real nice morning, and I had a

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cup of coffee. So I was I was sitting in

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my in my kitchen looking out in the backyard, and

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I saw a beautiful red fox was was kind of

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like in a little pill just just back there, you know,

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on a little further past my past my backyard, or

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just in the in the clearing area. Anyway, Like, I

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just had woke up and I had a cup of coffee,

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and I thought, look at that pretty fox. So I

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grabbed my camera, you know, I thought I was going

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to put a little national geographic and I thought I'd

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just walk out there and see and you see if

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I can get him on PIM. So I was easing

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out my back the back door, and uh And normally,

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you know, I'm a I'm a firm believer you don't

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need to sneak into the woods, especially if you're researching

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these buggers, because they know you're there, you know, so

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you ain't gonna you ain't gonna sneak up on them.

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Too often, but it does happen every you know, they

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make mistakes once in a while, and you know they

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kind of turn and look at you and be as

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surprised as you are seeing them. So it does happen.

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But I just I just kind of do my thing,

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and I want to know I'm there if I'm out there.

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So but this particular morning, I was following this fox,

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so I was gonna be sneaky so I wouldn't disturb it.

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So I was sneaking as good as this old country

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board could sneak, you know, through the woods, uh, trying

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to follow this fox. And he got to a fence

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that was a boundary point of my property in my neighbors,

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and he went to the fence and there's there's a

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little dirt road that kind of goes up the side

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of the fence. So he took off, as on face

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defense to the right down that road, and I'm like, well,

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you know, he's gone. But it was such a nice morning,

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So I remember putting my phone back in my pocket

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right there, and you know, I sticked back in my

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packet and I remember crossing my arms and looking out

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towards the woods and this this little road that he

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went on kind of circles around a little bit, and

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you could see it a little bit through the woods.

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And this morning, the sun was shining down onto this trail.

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I mean, it looks like something out of a movie.

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You know, you could just this The sun was lighting

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up this trail, and I thought that's prettyb And suddenly

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I guess I the corner of my eye from the left,

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I seen something move and it come out fast from

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my left, going towards my right, and it was going

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right right down that sun let the trail, and I

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watched it for well. I tell people, if you take

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your eyes and you move them to the left as

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far as you can, and move them to the right

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as slow as you can. You know, I don't know

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how many sex that is, but that's about how long

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I watched this thing. And it was it was definitely

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biped them and uh and it wasn't huge, you know,

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it looked like maybe at least you know, my size,

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around six foot uh so. Uh, but it is kind

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of odd looking. It kind of looked like I had

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real short legs and and uh uh now, and I

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was looking directly out of at its profile. All I

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seen was a side profile, and like I said, it

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was a little bit off in the distance, you know,

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wasn't that far off, but as far enough, like it said,

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pretty good. And uh, but it was solid black and

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it and it was running or or like say, it

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was gliding, but it looked like it was leaning at

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maybe a fifteen degree angle, kind of like a skier

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with ski, you know. And but its head was tilted back,

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funny looking, and it looked like it had a huge,

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huge amount of hair or something on top of his head.

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I don't know what if maybe his head or for

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blowing or what. But but it was heading towards that pops.

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So in my mind, this thing probably wasn't paying me

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that much attention to start with. And with being that

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I was trying to be sneaky, maybe he was paying

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more attention than that fox. And and and he took

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off after it. It's what I'm thinking happened. But anyway,

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it was, like I say, it was gliding through the woods.

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And how I say gliding, it was it was moving

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so smoothly, I mean it And and I used to

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tell folks that remind me of this. If you ever

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watched one of these movies which shows you kind of

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be behind the scenes how the mo movie was made

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and so forth. Whether take a camera and they'll put

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it on a track of some sort where they'll move

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smoothly across the ground or the woods or whatever. You

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just swore that there was a track back there and

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this thing was on it. That's how smooth it was moving.

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And it was moving so fast. But this is the

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weirdest part of it is it didn't really scare me,

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and I was kind of I thought it was kind

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of cool, you know, even though I was a little

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bit surprised you. Of course, because I did. I watched

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long enough I could look up and see. Uh. I

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checked the clouds. I thought, maybe it's shadow, or maybe

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it's a shadow of a bird or an airplane. I looked,

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you know, for all that, and there was nothing of

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this was this was all I saw. And uh uh

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and you and you could you know, your shadow when

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you see it come going through the woods, it kind

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of flops around the trees, and then this stuff, you know,

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we won't move smoothly, but this is one of This

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thing was moving smoothly. It was definitely not a shadow,

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so I ruled that out. But anyway, like I said,

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it didn't ski hear me, and I thought it was

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really cool. And I was more like, you know, trying

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to surprise, not surprisedly, like what did I just see?

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But suddenly and I'm in it. Instantly, all of the

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blood went went to my head. It seemed like all

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of a sudden, I started getting like like confused and dizzy.

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And I was in sight of my house. You know,

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I could see my house from where I was at.

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It wasn't that far. But I felt like I was

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going to pass out. And I didn't have no no

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idea of why, you know, because I had been feeling

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fine and stuff, and I've actually never felt like that.

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I mean just I felt like my head was going

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to explode, like just all the blood went to my

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face or to my head, and I literally, you know,

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all my career, even through my music career, and uh,

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if you go to my Facebook page, you can see

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a lot of music stuff and a lot of lots

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of people I've had had had the fortune of broad

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and shoulders with in the business. But anyways, I've always

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documented everything. So all I could think of right there,

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while I felt like I was going to pass out

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was get my camera out and document myself or whatever,

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just in case something happened. Some people can say, well,

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you know, here's what happened. Lon know, but you know

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here it is. And I member being so confused. I

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couldn't figure my camera out. I was trying to get

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it the app turned on and figure out which way

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to face it towards me. And I mean, like, I've

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never used a camera before, but I but I actually

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did film it and I have sent it to you

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me and and maybe I was what they cause app

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you know, you hear about that where uh you know

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that these animals or these critters could possibly do that,

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you know, kind of like lines and elephants and things.

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And I've read up a little bit on it, but

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not that much until this. And so I started researching

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a little bit, and I thought, well, maybe that's what

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happened to me, because I have no other explanation. Uh.

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But there I was in the woods, like I say,

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it couldn't have felt like I'm about to fall out, and

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I could see my house and it felt like it

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was a thousand miles away, you know. So so I

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started back towards the house and on the way, I

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called a friend of mine, and he's he's he's uh

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he's passed away, uh since then, but his he was

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really uh a pretty big, not big. He's well known

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the Big Cook community. And his name was Jim Hart.

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He went by Bubba Gump and he is real close

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friends with my buddy Coonboa Baker and stuff. But I

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I called Jim and he kind of talked me through

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the woods as far as knowing all right, you know,

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just just keep focused, and you know, and and and

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I was rambling, and you know, I don't know what

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I was saying, but I got to my house and

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and and my wife is a is a retired nurse,

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uh and all in so, uh when I walked into

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the house, she thought I was having a heart attack

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or something. Uh. And so she set me down on

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the couch, and and and and what law and I

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kind of you know felt okay, you know, she you know,

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determined that you know, I wasn't having a heart attack

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or anything. But it's just probably this anxiety attack of

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some sort. Uh. But uh, now, now if there's any

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proof to this, I guess the only way I can

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actually say something happening is that afternoon I literally had

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a doctor's appointment set up just right up from my

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house actually, where my doctor is. So I went to

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00:25:46.039 --> 00:25:49.400
my doctor the afternoon and uh, and you know how

461
00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:52.880
they take your temperature and check your blood pressure and

462
00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:56.160
all this stuff to start with. Well, she took my

463
00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:59.000
blood pressure to start with. Then she sat there and

464
00:25:59.039 --> 00:26:02.880
look for came in. Then she took it again and

465
00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:05.119
just kind of looking weird, you know. Finally she said,

466
00:26:05.119 --> 00:26:07.759
mister boswell, do you feel okay? I said, well, yeah,

467
00:26:08.160 --> 00:26:10.480
I felt pretty good. You know, I'm all right. And

468
00:26:10.599 --> 00:26:14.160
she said, well, she said, your blood pressure has never

469
00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:17.640
been this high. You know, I thought to myself, well,

470
00:26:17.680 --> 00:26:20.400
you know, I ain't never seen a bugger before. Mada

471
00:26:20.519 --> 00:26:22.519
had something to do with it, but you know, I

472
00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:25.079
thought I had. I thought I was being okay and

473
00:26:25.480 --> 00:26:27.599
in calm, you know, I was probably still excited and

474
00:26:27.599 --> 00:26:30.279
stuff and still running through my head and all. But

475
00:26:30.279 --> 00:26:33.000
but uh, anyway, it's kind of documented that, you know,

476
00:26:33.079 --> 00:26:34.960
something did happen to me that day, and it is

477
00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:37.759
on my medical record. I hope she didn't put down

478
00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:40.680
patients seized big put you know that might go over

479
00:26:40.799 --> 00:26:46.359
You're good in my medical files. Wow. Anyway, that that

480
00:26:46.640 --> 00:26:50.680
was the only sighting that I ever had with my

481
00:26:51.119 --> 00:26:54.680
eyes that I saw. Uh, most stuff that I've caught

482
00:26:54.720 --> 00:26:59.279
that is really compelling is by accident. Like most time

483
00:26:59.720 --> 00:27:03.279
for those and things that you videos that you don't

484
00:27:03.319 --> 00:27:07.200
really see anything till you get home and analyze your

485
00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:10.119
photos and videos and like, oh my god, look at

486
00:27:10.119 --> 00:27:11.720
that and look at that. You know, but that and

487
00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:13.680
that that happens so much, you know, So it's uh

488
00:27:14.160 --> 00:27:16.519
so I tell people, you know, just just if you

489
00:27:16.559 --> 00:27:20.160
if you feel, if you feel there's enough reason to

490
00:27:20.200 --> 00:27:22.480
take a photo or video, make sure you look at

491
00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:24.720
it when you get home, because you know, whatever you

492
00:27:24.799 --> 00:27:28.359
felt that made you inclined to take that photo, there

493
00:27:28.440 --> 00:27:31.240
may be something there there to see you And I

494
00:27:31.279 --> 00:27:35.279
have I have quite a few things that that that

495
00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:38.000
people can see and look up on my on my sits,

496
00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:40.319
my social media stuff that like I said, I don't

497
00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:43.279
I don't post and push out to everybody has a

498
00:27:43.279 --> 00:27:45.279
has a big foot platform or some this kind of

499
00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:49.680
stuff I keep to myself enjoy showing to other researchers

500
00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:53.640
and things. So, but yeah, that was.

501
00:27:55.160 --> 00:27:59.680
That that sighting is I mean that that's really that's

502
00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:04.519
a really unique one. In the fact, so from what

503
00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:07.039
I heard, you were able to look up at the

504
00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:10.000
clouds to see if there was a shadow, and then

505
00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:14.960
you were able to look back and it was still there, right.

506
00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:17.920
Right, yeah, yeah, I mean I I quickly looked up

507
00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:20.480
for planes and shadows. I mean I mean maybe not

508
00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:23.200
right at that insert as it went by, but you know,

509
00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:25.680
if it was a plane or bird or something, you

510
00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:28.079
could still see them. Though my sight was three or

511
00:28:28.079 --> 00:28:30.200
four sex or whatever. So I'm like, you know, what

512
00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:32.160
was that? Then I'm looking up like, okay, was that

513
00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:34.279
a plane? Was it a shadow? And I'm looking and

514
00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:38.440
didn't see nothing as far as birds or anything. So uh,

515
00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:42.359
And it was just about that time after looking up

516
00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:46.200
and looking around is when, uh, when I when all

517
00:28:46.200 --> 00:28:48.559
of a sudden, I just got you know, confused and

518
00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:52.240
dizzy and stuff. So really it was really strange and

519
00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:55.400
nothing like that has happened to me since, thank goodness.

520
00:28:55.599 --> 00:28:57.880
And I say it's unique because I mean ninety nine

521
00:28:57.920 --> 00:29:00.640
percent of the time you hear from witnesses as they

522
00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:04.640
look away for a second and then it's gone, like

523
00:29:04.759 --> 00:29:08.720
they look back, there's nothing, So that is as extremely

524
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:13.319
unique to hear that. So after you had that sighting,

525
00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:16.480
then you know, how how are you are you viewing? Like,

526
00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:21.640
oh man, I've got something that's like a monkey in

527
00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:25.480
my back backwoods, or is it something that looks more

528
00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:26.240
like a human?

529
00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:32.000
Or actually I have some video that is and like

530
00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:34.880
you can look it up and then I'd be glad

531
00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:38.880
to show it to you and stuff. But in my opinion,

532
00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:44.119
it may be the the closest face shot of but

533
00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:48.720
you and I'll be putt ever recorded on video in motion.

534
00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:54.119
And remember I told you, sometimes these things are there

535
00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:56.039
and you ain't gonna sneak up on them, and sometimes

536
00:29:57.119 --> 00:30:02.200
you surprise them. Well, this this particular incident, it was

537
00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:09.640
also in twenty eighteen, and it was one night about

538
00:30:09.799 --> 00:30:12.119
about twelve one o'clock in the morning, I guess it was.

539
00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:15.400
And again I was I was sitting there kicking way Ado,

540
00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:19.400
looking out towards the backwoods, and I heard the awfully

541
00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:24.519
screaming and hollering up in the woods. I mean, I

542
00:30:24.559 --> 00:30:26.799
don't know what it was, but just balling and screaming.

543
00:30:27.599 --> 00:30:32.599
And people have actually heard the video said they maybe

544
00:30:32.599 --> 00:30:35.119
thought it was a deer in distress or something like.

545
00:30:35.400 --> 00:30:38.279
I'm not that familiar with the animal sound like that.

546
00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:41.359
But anyway, I heard this screaming and I was sitting

547
00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:43.880
there saw I immediately grabbed my camera. You always kept

548
00:30:43.920 --> 00:30:47.960
my camera here, and I had old Sony handycam, which

549
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:50.839
was pretty good video cameras back then, you know, and

550
00:30:50.920 --> 00:30:52.559
even though it had a few years on it, but

551
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:54.920
it's a nice video camera and I've usually a lot

552
00:30:54.960 --> 00:30:57.279
of time. So I had it right there and my

553
00:30:57.359 --> 00:31:02.400
flashlight handy. Now here's here's one thing back because I've

554
00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:05.799
been you know, I've been researching my woods, uh for

555
00:31:05.880 --> 00:31:08.440
a few years, you know, go out looking for eyes, shine,

556
00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:11.079
taking you know, flashlight and walk around, sit and you

557
00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:13.559
know the same, you know what you do. Well. For

558
00:31:13.599 --> 00:31:17.200
some reason, I told myself, you know, but next time

559
00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:21.160
I think I may hear or see something, I'm not

560
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:24.039
gonna just go straight out with my flashlight because I

561
00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:25.759
got to think, you know, if I'm hiding out there

562
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:29.079
in the woods and I'm over here and you shine

563
00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:32.119
your flashlight this way, I'm going that way, you know.

564
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:35.759
So I thought, I'm gonna just see what happened. So

565
00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:40.359
here's what happened. I walked again out in my back door.

566
00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:44.759
I had my camera running or on record as I

567
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:48.160
walked out the back door, but my flashlight was off,

568
00:31:49.160 --> 00:31:52.160
so I kind of ease up to the edge of

569
00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:54.480
what I call what I call my booger hut. I

570
00:31:54.519 --> 00:31:56.519
got kind of like a gaze bol type thing and

571
00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:58.440
sitting out towards you edge of the woods that I'll

572
00:31:58.440 --> 00:32:00.839
get up on, you know, get up off the ground

573
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:03.119
with my cameras and things and stuff. I call it

574
00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:08.000
my booger hut. Anyway, I got close to it, and then,

575
00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:12.079
like say, I had my camera running. Suddenly I hit

576
00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:16.920
my flashlight and I panned the whole opening area behind

577
00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:19.440
my house, you know, from right to left and back.

578
00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:23.240
I just panned across it real fast. Uh, we'll not

579
00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:25.240
too fast, but you know, past not to see if

580
00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:27.880
I could see any kind of size, shine, eyeshine, or

581
00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:31.319
movement or anything. And of course I was looking with

582
00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:34.079
my my naked eyes more than I was looking in

583
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:36.599
my camera, you know, for the so I was trying

584
00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:38.559
to keep it all together, my flashlight and my naked

585
00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:40.680
eyes and my camera in the right direction, you know,

586
00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:45.240
as I panned across and and and uh, I could

587
00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:49.079
still hear that screaming in the background, but I literally

588
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:53.839
did not see anything. I didn't hear anything, uh, making

589
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:57.440
any noise besides what few little leaves or whatever I

590
00:32:57.480 --> 00:33:01.119
stepped on. And and you can hear this in the video.

591
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:05.799
I been seeing anything. Now, this is what's crazy. This

592
00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:08.559
is why. That's why I tell I beg folks to

593
00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:11.000
look at your stuff, you know when you take it,

594
00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:14.799
because I didn't. And like said, I took this in

595
00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:19.079
twenty eighteen, and I remember a day or two late,

596
00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:20.839
I never looked at my I never looked at the

597
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:23.279
camera because I didn't see anything my naked eyes. I

598
00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:27.079
figured there wouldn't nothing out there. But like normal, a

599
00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:29.799
day or two later, I come and uploaded my latest

600
00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:35.359
files onto my desktop PC, my desktop computer and I

601
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:38.279
I had for years, and that's why I upload all

602
00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:41.559
my all my all my digital stuff, whether it's music

603
00:33:41.640 --> 00:33:45.839
or buggers or whatever. And but you know, I uploaded

604
00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:51.880
this this video and it was exactly fifty seven seconds long.

605
00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:55.240
It's the full length of the video as far as

606
00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:57.440
one shot from when I payed from left to right.

607
00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:01.839
And I never looked at it again. This was twenty eighteen,

608
00:34:03.119 --> 00:34:09.559
and it wasn't until twenty twenty one, three years later,

609
00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:12.960
that I was looking at my computer. I decided to

610
00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:16.000
clean up some files and throw away some stuff, and

611
00:34:16.199 --> 00:34:18.519
you know, just taking up stairs I didn't need anymore.

612
00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:22.159
And I had my had my speakers on, which is

613
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:24.239
a normal thing I normally don't do when I'm looking

614
00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:27.679
through my computer. I normally don't need speakers, you know, Uh,

615
00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:30.519
well I do, but sometimes corn I'm looking at it. Anyway,

616
00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:33.639
I had no speakers on, and I come up on

617
00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:36.320
this file where some nail was black, you know, and

618
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:38.599
I I wonder, what is this. I clicked on it,

619
00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:41.000
and it was black because it was dark, you know,

620
00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:42.840
when I started feeling it. But anywhy I heard that

621
00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:47.000
hat screaming, I said, oh, I remember that. So I

622
00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:49.159
so I pulled it up you know, to the to

623
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:53.760
to my big screen on my computer and was watching it.

624
00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:58.440
And it literally, I mean literally tears come to my

625
00:34:58.559 --> 00:35:01.119
eyes when I saw what I had caught on camera

626
00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:05.599
and and and in the bottom right hand corner up

627
00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:09.239
the screen. Uh you see what looks and to me,

628
00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:11.559
what looks like a little well at first I thought

629
00:35:11.599 --> 00:35:13.920
it was a ghost of a monkey or something a

630
00:35:13.960 --> 00:35:16.559
monkey ghost, because it had the little face of a monkey,

631
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:19.800
from a big old ear to a little bald head

632
00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:23.920
and big eyes and little little I mean not a

633
00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:26.800
monkey nose, a human type nose, and a kind of

634
00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:30.400
big mind, but it's very I mean, you can see

635
00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:34.920
it to me just as plain as they, you know. Uh.

636
00:35:35.159 --> 00:35:37.519
But I saw this, I'm like, oh my god. So

637
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:42.280
I started analyzing it, and being a graphics designer, I

638
00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:44.800
can't I've always been to get around on computer a

639
00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:48.159
little bit as far as analyzing things and and messing

640
00:35:48.239 --> 00:35:51.679
with you know, contrast and uh brightness and and and

641
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:54.480
the different levels of things where you you pull out

642
00:35:54.480 --> 00:35:57.920
some detail and uh, you know, also with the audio

643
00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:01.000
and stuff like that. So I already looking at it,

644
00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:05.159
and and this thing is so fast. It was only

645
00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:10.880
seven second, seven frames. You know, there's like like average

646
00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:14.880
twenty nine frames per second when you're tap it. Seven

647
00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:18.440
frames was only what was what this thing was in

648
00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:21.000
And that shows you how fashion the move. And so

649
00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:22.639
of course I had to slow it down. And I

650
00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:26.639
looked at it frame by frame by frame, and and

651
00:36:26.679 --> 00:36:31.679
it is definitely a creature in there, and I'm pretty

652
00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:34.199
sure it was. The juvenile wasn't much bigger than I am,

653
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:39.559
if maybe smaller, And this thing was literally and I

654
00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:41.880
know it sounds crazy, And like I said, I don't

655
00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:44.360
talk about nothing that I can't show you some kind

656
00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:47.840
of documentation to prove what what I'm seeing or what

657
00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:49.639
I saw. You know, they may not prove what was there.

658
00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:52.880
Whatever boo can prove what I'm looking at. But you

659
00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:55.280
can see this thing. It was probably at least maybe

660
00:36:55.320 --> 00:36:59.760
no more than six or eight feet from me, and

661
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:02.639
the way it come in the camera, you can see

662
00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:06.000
it was surprised. You see, it was kind of coming

663
00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:07.840
in front of me. All of a sudden it turns

664
00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:10.719
and looks straight at me in the camera and it's

665
00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:14.079
it's its eyebrows and eyes open wild, like, oh my god,

666
00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:17.800
what was that? And it turns and and and almost

667
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:22.719
looked like it wobbles on off into the night. But

668
00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:25.559
the crazy thing is it was like almost and I

669
00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:27.760
say it looked like a ghost. It was. It was

670
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:30.800
kind of it was real white looking, but a real

671
00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:33.559
you couldn't see through it, but it looked like you

672
00:37:33.559 --> 00:37:36.599
could almost see through it. But but but it was

673
00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:38.599
sharp enough, like say, well, you can see all the

674
00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:42.119
see all the detail in it in his face, you know,

675
00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:44.320
right down to his mouth. And I caught it from

676
00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:48.159
like from like the chin up you know it's chin.

677
00:37:48.920 --> 00:37:51.519
I didn't catch a shem, but from the lips to

678
00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:53.960
the top of its head is what I've got on camera,

679
00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:58.199
But it wabbles off and it looks like it looked

680
00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:03.599
like a white fog, looks foggy, And upon analyzing the film,

681
00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:06.000
when I'm walking up there, you can see this fog

682
00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:10.840
kind of bouncing to the woods. And if you just

683
00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:13.960
glance how, you're thinking maybe just a nighttime miss or something,

684
00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:16.000
you know, But once you look at it, you say,

685
00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:18.880
that ain't no misk. It looked like a freaking ghost

686
00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:24.280
fog because it's moving deliberately, you know, and its actions.

687
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:28.599
But it comes around to my camera and like, I

688
00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:31.960
see this in the year twenty twenty one, and I

689
00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:38.360
spent since then analyzing this, this fifty seven second fem

690
00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:43.400
and you wouldn't well, I keep saying this because it's

691
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:48.960
so unbelievable. But in that film, there's least four other creatures,

692
00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:52.079
two of them way to the right towards end the

693
00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:56.559
pim or you see basically eye shine, but like, look

694
00:38:56.679 --> 00:39:00.360
like two creatures are sneaking in the woods or heading

695
00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:02.360
out towards the woods and kind of duck and hiding,

696
00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:05.360
but they're looking back towards me. But they were heading

697
00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:08.400
towards this noise. It was hot, was out in the woods.

698
00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:12.599
It's screaming and bellowing. There's hitting that direction on the

699
00:39:12.679 --> 00:39:15.320
left side of him, right towards the end. And I

700
00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:18.880
don't talk about this whole lot because it's it's as

701
00:39:18.920 --> 00:39:21.239
hard as I've tried to pull out the detail. I

702
00:39:21.320 --> 00:39:23.800
pulled out enough where you could probably see what I'm

703
00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:28.360
seeing basically, But I'm pretty sure it was a freaking

704
00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:32.360
dog man was there because this thing and like I said,

705
00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:37.840
it's my my my flashlight. If I done went just

706
00:39:37.960 --> 00:39:41.880
one inch over when I panned over to my left,

707
00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:46.519
I was probably caught some good stuff. But I panned

708
00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:50.400
so fast that I barely caught it on its on

709
00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:53.880
its face, and you could see the where the light

710
00:39:53.960 --> 00:39:57.320
hits its face, and it looks towards me again, looks surprised,

711
00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:02.119
and there's you can see it's it's arm. Where it's

712
00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:05.960
arm comes swings around in front of a tree that

713
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:09.599
is a very definite tree that's in my audience. I mean,

714
00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:13.039
you can't it's distinguish it out from all the other trees.

715
00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:15.760
It comes around in front of it, and you can

716
00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:21.039
count five fingernails are lit up by that flashlight. I mean,

717
00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:24.199
it looks like a big old human monkey hen with

718
00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:28.440
five shiny, shining fingernails coming around in front that that tree,

719
00:40:29.320 --> 00:40:31.719
and and where it came came across in front of

720
00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:33.360
that tree. I was able to go out there and

721
00:40:33.400 --> 00:40:36.840
actually measure, you know, you know, because you could see

722
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:39.800
the limb the where the tree is politious exactly where

723
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:42.239
it come across it. Where if I had been standing there,

724
00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:45.239
that's where I have where where I would have come

725
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:49.480
across with my arm. But this thing, the arm me

726
00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:52.239
standing exactly where it was where it's arm come across.

727
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:54.400
Would it hit me in the head and it would

728
00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:58.079
look like it's like waist level this critter where it

729
00:40:58.199 --> 00:41:01.280
was swinging around, uh to head towards the woods to

730
00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:03.000
what it looked like when my place like hit it

731
00:41:03.039 --> 00:41:04.440
looked like it was like old heck, and it was

732
00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:07.280
getting out of it. And again it was going towards

733
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:10.840
that noise that I was here, And like said, I'll

734
00:41:10.840 --> 00:41:12.519
send you all this stuff, or you can come up

735
00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:13.960
on my page and I'll let you look at it

736
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:15.760
and check it out and see what you think, you know,

737
00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:21.079
But I think that maybe what it was it was

738
00:41:21.159 --> 00:41:24.239
posture the dog man. And and a few years later

739
00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:26.960
we called and it's another story. A friend of mine

740
00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:29.960
he called on PIM that a creature that kind of

741
00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:33.039
looked like what I saw gliding to the woods, which

742
00:41:33.159 --> 00:41:35.360
could have been like this dog man critter what I

743
00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:38.239
don't know. And I called it a dog man because

744
00:41:38.280 --> 00:41:42.440
its side profile looks like a from what I can't

745
00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:47.119
probably put idea. I'm almost looked like a cartoon kyote.

746
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:51.760
I mean, it almost looks comical looking. But but it's

747
00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:55.280
wolfish looking, you know, nose and stuff, and you know,

748
00:41:55.480 --> 00:41:57.079
it's not not a heart detail. And that's why I

749
00:41:57.079 --> 00:41:59.000
don't talk about it a whole lot, because I can't

750
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:03.679
show that much besides the fingers and arms coming across

751
00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:07.400
that is very clear. You can see it plain. You know.

752
00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:11.880
It's not five fireflies follow on each other through the woods,

753
00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:17.159
you know. But that's that's one of the things, and

754
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:19.800
and the other. And now if you got any questions,

755
00:42:19.800 --> 00:42:24.039
don't just jump on end. Right.

756
00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:26.280
It's that's fascinating.

757
00:42:26.320 --> 00:42:26.480
Is that?

758
00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:29.599
Are those videos you have on your YouTube channel as well?

759
00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:36.159
Yeah? Absolutely, I post everything I've taken. Yeah, it's it's

760
00:42:36.159 --> 00:42:39.920
on there as well. And you know, I've actually been

761
00:42:40.039 --> 00:42:43.599
begging people for years since I took this fem to

762
00:42:43.679 --> 00:42:48.079
take this fifty seven second pem I know, and analyze

763
00:42:48.119 --> 00:42:49.960
it like I did. Take it and look at it,

764
00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:53.760
break it down frame by frame if you're and I

765
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:57.119
would love for a forensic scientist to get a hold

766
00:42:57.119 --> 00:42:59.760
of somebody and just look at it and you know,

767
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:01.840
like you took it and see what I say, and

768
00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:04.320
I beg people do it. You know, it's not something

769
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:08.559
I keep secret all now you know it's there. If

770
00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:13.440
you look at it, you'll see it. But anyways, any now,

771
00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:17.039
now it gets crazier now as I'm analyzing this film

772
00:43:17.199 --> 00:43:21.360
like I've been analyzing for years, and this wasn't too

773
00:43:21.400 --> 00:43:24.920
long ago when I was playing with it again and

774
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:28.920
I was I was looking at the little juvenile part

775
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:32.760
of the film where you come up look at me. Well, well,

776
00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:34.400
I was analyzed, and like I say, it was real

777
00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:38.559
dark outside that's the time. So while I was looking

778
00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:41.599
at this clip, I decided just to boost the brightness

779
00:43:41.840 --> 00:43:46.360
one hundred percent, you know, hoping it would maybe lighting

780
00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:49.519
up some of the darkness of the night. And what

781
00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:52.760
I saw and what you can see when I'll send

782
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:57.159
it to you, I swear it looks like a freaking gorilla.

783
00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:03.320
It's between is between me and trees that trees are.

784
00:44:03.599 --> 00:44:06.480
This thing is is probably within arms distance of me

785
00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:10.239
or maybe not much further. Uh, And these trees are

786
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:12.679
probably like five or six eight feet in front of me.

787
00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:17.920
And this thing rises looks like it rises up and floats.

788
00:44:18.199 --> 00:44:21.960
I swear this gliding thing. It looks like it floats

789
00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:24.639
off to the left. But you can see its head,

790
00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:29.199
you see its shoulder, you see its bicycle, you see

791
00:44:29.239 --> 00:44:32.039
its word's arm is be on that bent at the elbow,

792
00:44:33.079 --> 00:44:37.159
and it like it rises up like it's floating away

793
00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:41.000
from me on on to the left. And like, I

794
00:44:41.079 --> 00:44:45.039
didn't see this until I increased the brightness, and it's

795
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:47.599
there because it blocks off the trees in front of me.

796
00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:50.719
You can see the shadow as plane as that blocking

797
00:44:50.760 --> 00:44:58.800
off the trees. So when I found this, it really

798
00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:01.280
freaked me out because I'm thinking, Okay, here I am

799
00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:12.000
literally standing within armed distance of two mythological creatures that

800
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:16.679
that I have have on video, you know, a juvenile

801
00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:20.119
and I think this grill looking thing must have been

802
00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:22.760
one of the parents, you know, because they say they

803
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:27.239
kind of traveling packs and their they're very uh protective

804
00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:30.079
of each other. So I'm just wondering, I say, just

805
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:34.119
wondering if this was a mama or baby. And again

806
00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:36.800
it was hidden in the same direction as the rest

807
00:45:36.840 --> 00:45:39.800
of these creatures, towards whatever we're screaming in the woods.

808
00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:43.880
But I'm just wondering. If I had seen that juvenile

809
00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:46.960
in front of me and reached out towards it, I

810
00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:50.599
bet I would have been a statistic by now, because

811
00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:53.320
I really believe that this big, old gorilla looking thing

812
00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:57.480
would have probably tore my head off. Oh yeah, what

813
00:45:57.519 --> 00:46:01.320
I believe, because because it was too close to this thing,

814
00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:04.119
and and and and like I said, I will send

815
00:46:04.119 --> 00:46:06.360
you ever been of this to just seeing we get

816
00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:10.400
off the phone, you know, being just just for you

817
00:46:10.519 --> 00:46:12.400
and just for your personal you know. And if if

818
00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:14.480
you'd like to share with folks, that's final me.

819
00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:17.320
You know, Oh so I could I could put that

820
00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:20.480
in in the YouTube version. You'd be okay with that?

821
00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:26.360
Yeah? Absolutely, okay, Absolutely anything you'd like to add to

822
00:46:26.599 --> 00:46:29.159
or post with it, you see, fine on me. Uh

823
00:46:29.199 --> 00:46:32.719
but uh I do. And like I said, all this

824
00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:33.840
is in my backyard.

825
00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:36.719
Still, that's absolutely wild. I mean, you've got a lot

826
00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:39.360
a lot going on there. I do have a few

827
00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:42.960
questions for you just because you are a very unique

828
00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:45.599
individual where you're into big foot, but you also have

829
00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:50.880
the background that you have. One of one of the

830
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:55.480
questions I have, and this is just I have a feeling.

831
00:46:56.719 --> 00:47:03.159
You mentioned that you are your friend of Kumbo's right, Yeah.

832
00:47:03.039 --> 00:47:05.960
Yeah, okay, Kumbo's dear friend.

833
00:47:06.280 --> 00:47:11.159
So that being said, and also you have your background

834
00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:16.440
as a musician. Have you been involved with any work

835
00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:19.920
that was done in the past with the shofar horn?

836
00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:25.079
No, uh, And I talked to Koumbow a lot about it.

837
00:47:25.880 --> 00:47:28.639
Uh And he's talked to me about it. And as

838
00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:30.880
a matter of fact, you know, I always tell this story.

839
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:34.719
I said, you know, Kumbo is is my mentor. And

840
00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:36.800
he he he's the He's the guy that I first

841
00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:39.280
heard on the radio where I said, you know, I

842
00:47:41.320 --> 00:47:44.440
could probably talk on the radio. Kombo can talk on

843
00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:47.360
the radio. I probably. But anyway, up until then, I

844
00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:49.519
never thought about doing kind of any kind of interviews

845
00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:52.280
or stuff. But I first heard of Kumbo and then

846
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:55.039
got involved with him and and and he's my teacher.

847
00:47:55.079 --> 00:47:56.719
I mean a lot of the advice I give the

848
00:47:56.880 --> 00:48:00.039
people as far as researching tools and what you do

849
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:02.280
when you go into wood and stuff, it's stuff I've

850
00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:06.760
learned from him. But but yeah, that that instrument is

851
00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:10.440
it's crazy and I've talked to Koombo about it. But uh,

852
00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:15.519
I've never been around one that often. Well, I had,

853
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:18.440
I did not long ago. I had somebody had one,

854
00:48:18.440 --> 00:48:21.000
but I didn't talk to him about it. But that's

855
00:48:21.119 --> 00:48:23.760
that's a fascinating subject there, you know, when you get

856
00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:26.519
talking about that, man, it's spooky.

857
00:48:26.880 --> 00:48:31.599
It's some weird stuff. Another thing I've noticed, and this

858
00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:34.800
is from all parts of the US, this is from

859
00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:42.320
It's been reported in Washington, Oklahoma, and North Georgia, is

860
00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:47.920
that some witnesses will hear what sounds like they're doing

861
00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:51.639
some sort of singing. Is that anything you've heard or

862
00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:56.079
do you have any thoughts about that at all.

863
00:48:56.559 --> 00:49:00.679
I've never heard heard anything like that. Uh. You know,

864
00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:03.679
I've heard, you know, some howls and crazy stuff out

865
00:49:03.679 --> 00:49:05.440
in the woods, but I've never heard anything that sounded

866
00:49:05.480 --> 00:49:10.440
like singing. Uh. Although you know, I've always I've always

867
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:14.800
heard that that that buggers are like like most anamals actually,

868
00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:18.360
you know, like music, you know. So so I don't

869
00:49:18.400 --> 00:49:20.239
never miss a chance if I'm out in the woods

870
00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:21.960
to pull out my guitar and sit there and sing

871
00:49:21.960 --> 00:49:24.800
a few songs and maybe sat on the log and

872
00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:28.039
if there's somebody with me, I tell them I said, now,

873
00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:31.119
now look like you're looking at me, but watch over

874
00:49:31.159 --> 00:49:35.000
my shoulder behind me, just in case you bugger might

875
00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:36.920
come up and say, who's that out there making all

876
00:49:36.920 --> 00:49:39.960
that record? You know? But uh, but I do believe

877
00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:45.719
music is is entwined well with big Puss and I'm

878
00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:48.800
sure they enjoy it like probably like we do. You know,

879
00:49:48.800 --> 00:49:50.280
it's got to get off a boarding out there in

880
00:49:50.320 --> 00:49:54.800
the woods, you know, listen to squirrels and whatever else

881
00:49:54.840 --> 00:49:57.559
all day long, so probably a little music probably sounds

882
00:49:57.559 --> 00:49:58.519
good once in a while.

883
00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:01.119
And yeah, that was another thing I was going to

884
00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:04.320
bring up to because it is something that you hear

885
00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:09.039
in reports that someone was Usually it's a guitar. Someone

886
00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:12.239
was playing a guitar and there's a response. And I've

887
00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:17.280
actually experienced that firsthand in Oregon, where an individual was

888
00:50:17.360 --> 00:50:20.880
playing a guitar out in the forest and then we

889
00:50:20.920 --> 00:50:24.360
got roared and screamed at and it happened two times

890
00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:26.920
in a row and then we left. It was crazy.

891
00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:33.239
But is that anything where you've played guitar and had

892
00:50:33.239 --> 00:50:37.079
any weird things in response, or it kicked off things

893
00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:38.079
in your backyard.

894
00:50:40.239 --> 00:50:44.480
No, uh, not that I can tell. Uh, you know,

895
00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:47.440
I don't know if it's a well, I haven't been

896
00:50:47.480 --> 00:50:49.599
researching a whole lot here lately, as far as spending

897
00:50:49.639 --> 00:50:53.599
time back there in the woods with my thermal cameras

898
00:50:53.599 --> 00:50:55.519
and everything. I'll take and sit back there and just

899
00:50:55.960 --> 00:50:58.360
you know which I enjoyed just watching whatever's coming through

900
00:50:58.400 --> 00:51:03.039
the woods where there's deer, possums or wild boar reckon.

901
00:51:03.079 --> 00:51:05.000
What do you know. I just love wildlife anyway, So

902
00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:07.199
watching and see why I don't catch on cameras fun.

903
00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:12.880
But is uh, I'm you know, like I said, a

904
00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:15.800
lot of a lot of stuff happened in twenty eighteen.

905
00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:21.400
It was in twenty twenty three. I think it was

906
00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:25.599
sometimes a friend of mine, which is a deer friend

907
00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:29.920
and a great researcher named Terry Allen. He uh, he

908
00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:32.000
come to my house and a little researching and we

909
00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:35.760
caught something on camera or he did there uh that

910
00:51:36.119 --> 00:51:38.880
one night while he was here. That was really interesting

911
00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:41.320
and I call it some of some of the best

912
00:51:41.320 --> 00:51:44.440
evidence that shows that boogers back here. But uh, that's

913
00:51:44.440 --> 00:51:46.719
something also I can I can I can show you that,

914
00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:52.639
I show my presentations, but uh, you know it. If

915
00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:56.519
you if you were and I've done this and I

916
00:51:56.519 --> 00:51:58.480
can show again, I'll show it to you. But one

917
00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:00.400
day I was I was wondering, well, why why why

918
00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:02.800
is my area? Why would it be so active here?

919
00:52:03.039 --> 00:52:06.000
So I went to Google and took a Google Maps

920
00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:09.719
or Google satellite shot of my house in the area,

921
00:52:10.559 --> 00:52:12.440
and looking down at my house, you know, of course

922
00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:14.920
you don't see it from the ground level, but looking

923
00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:18.280
to my house, I'm like, oh, that makes sense. But

924
00:52:18.360 --> 00:52:20.480
if you look at my house, the woods surrounding my

925
00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:22.639
house in front and the back. Of course, there's a

926
00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:24.960
road in front of my house. It's an old rural road,

927
00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:31.239
but it almost works like an hour glass, you know

928
00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:34.000
how an hour glass is shaped, And right in the

929
00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:37.800
thinnest part of that air hour glass is where my

930
00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:42.599
house is. So the woods that's shaped like an hour glass,

931
00:52:42.639 --> 00:52:44.960
and it's big old lags back there and creeks and

932
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:47.519
swamps and that thing you know that makes it boggers.

933
00:52:48.079 --> 00:52:51.920
So I'm thinking, if you're going to cross the road

934
00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:54.440
in front of my house and want to stay in

935
00:52:54.480 --> 00:52:57.880
the woods, you basically have to come through my yard,

936
00:52:58.440 --> 00:53:00.480
or go through a big field, or or through a

937
00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:04.639
neighborhood or something you know that's on down the roads.

938
00:53:04.679 --> 00:53:07.119
But the biggest part of the woods. You have to

939
00:53:07.159 --> 00:53:09.800
almost come through my yard to cross the road to

940
00:53:09.920 --> 00:53:14.159
continue through the woods. And uh and like I say,

941
00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:16.760
it's kind of shaped like an hour glass, and and

942
00:53:16.760 --> 00:53:19.360
and and that's that's why I think maybe I guess

943
00:53:19.559 --> 00:53:23.280
much activity because these boogers, you know, maybe just passing

944
00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:25.360
through and this is the way they go to get

945
00:53:25.360 --> 00:53:31.480
to uh, you know, uh other other lakes and to

946
00:53:31.639 --> 00:53:34.000
the Chattahoochee River or whatever it is they're heading to,

947
00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:37.079
you know, in this neighborhood. But uh, that's the only

948
00:53:37.119 --> 00:53:39.159
reason I can think of it's been so active.

949
00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:45.960
Do you have a goal with you know, you're trying

950
00:53:46.039 --> 00:53:50.480
to you pretty much keep an eye on what's going

951
00:53:50.519 --> 00:53:53.119
on in your backyard. Do you have something you wish

952
00:53:53.159 --> 00:53:57.079
you would happen with having the boogers in your backyard

953
00:53:57.239 --> 00:53:59.400
or is it just something where you're you're watching them

954
00:53:59.480 --> 00:54:04.159
kind of like uh uh like a Jean Goodall wood almost.

955
00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:07.760
Well, it's kind of like that. I I I something

956
00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:11.119
I've never done is do howls back there, you know,

957
00:54:11.159 --> 00:54:13.039
never knowing once while I may do a tree knock

958
00:54:13.079 --> 00:54:14.960
on something, but I don't do that to off either.

959
00:54:15.039 --> 00:54:16.960
You know. I just think, well, you know, if they

960
00:54:17.119 --> 00:54:19.280
use this area and they give me the chance to

961
00:54:19.320 --> 00:54:21.840
see them or have a little fun and and and

962
00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:25.119
enjoy boogering in my back yard already especially, but I

963
00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:27.639
don't have to cool nowhere. You know, I'm not gonna

964
00:54:27.639 --> 00:54:30.440
bother them. So so yeah, I basically, I guess I

965
00:54:30.519 --> 00:54:33.199
just try to just go back there and observe. I

966
00:54:33.199 --> 00:54:36.000
don't try to draw me in. Every once in a while,

967
00:54:36.119 --> 00:54:39.039
I take some apples or bananas or something. You know,

968
00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:40.760
we got them lay in our house, and I just

969
00:54:40.920 --> 00:54:43.880
take them back there just see what happens. You know,

970
00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:45.559
I don't I don't follow up on it a lot.

971
00:54:45.639 --> 00:54:47.880
But but yeah, that's basic. I just I just don't

972
00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:50.599
bother them too much. And uh, you know, I know

973
00:54:50.719 --> 00:54:54.159
they're there, you know, I've got to I found a

974
00:54:54.239 --> 00:54:58.559
huge footprint one time, the only footprint I've ever found,

975
00:54:58.639 --> 00:54:59.960
you know. You know, it's it's hard to get put

976
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:03.440
prints and stuff. Uh, you know in Alabama and Georgia,

977
00:55:03.480 --> 00:55:04.840
and when you get out in those woods there's so

978
00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:08.119
much stuff on the ground. But I actually found a

979
00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:12.360
pretty nice footprint that was in my front yard right right,

980
00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:16.880
just real close to where my my daughter's polar bear

981
00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:20.800
was standing. Of course it was some years later during

982
00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:23.760
that time. It's years later, but I've actually had some

983
00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:26.280
good photos. I tried to cash it, but I screwed

984
00:55:26.280 --> 00:55:28.519
it up because I've never done one of those before.

985
00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:31.199
But I got lots of good photos of it. But uh,

986
00:55:31.320 --> 00:55:34.239
acted a big footpen But this critter looks like it

987
00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:38.599
came from the from across the street from my house,

988
00:55:38.960 --> 00:55:41.639
from the woods and stepped away up on the bank,

989
00:55:41.760 --> 00:55:45.119
six eight feet bank, and it looked like it accidentally

990
00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:48.559
stepped in a fire bed, an old ant bed, cause

991
00:55:48.760 --> 00:55:51.000
that's where the print was, that right dead centered his

992
00:55:51.079 --> 00:55:54.519
ant bed. And uh, that's why I'll send that to

993
00:55:54.599 --> 00:55:56.880
you too. But that's the only print I've ever found

994
00:55:57.039 --> 00:55:59.920
around here, and I'm pretty sure it is my act

995
00:56:01.159 --> 00:56:03.639
stepped in that ant bed and kept going through the

996
00:56:03.639 --> 00:56:07.199
tree line, but it's it was way too big to

997
00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:10.960
be a human footprint that I've ever seen. Dale.

998
00:56:11.039 --> 00:56:14.320
You you mentioned already that you have taken at least

999
00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:18.920
one trip out to to the Brenda Harris's gathering, But

1000
00:56:19.039 --> 00:56:24.639
do you ever partner, go to other researcher gatherings and

1001
00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:27.239
try to get into the field to see if you

1002
00:56:27.280 --> 00:56:30.800
can see evidence in other places. Or is it a

1003
00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:34.480
thing where you're just pretty much focused on your backyard area.

1004
00:56:35.880 --> 00:56:38.360
Oh no, no, I love I love hanging out and

1005
00:56:38.679 --> 00:56:42.920
with other researchers and uh uh. Not long ago, we

1006
00:56:42.960 --> 00:56:45.119
had a we had an awesome meet and greet and

1007
00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:53.039
at at Hollis National Park or that's located around Silicaga, Alabama. Okay,

1008
00:56:53.079 --> 00:56:55.159
And it's for the with the big Foot group that

1009
00:56:55.239 --> 00:56:57.239
I'm in. I don't know, if a bit, it's one

1010
00:56:57.280 --> 00:57:00.639
of my favorites. It's the wood Walkers filled with the

1011
00:57:00.760 --> 00:57:05.719
Z Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're that that that that's my

1012
00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:09.159
main main hangout right there. But anyway, when we had

1013
00:57:09.159 --> 00:57:11.840
that big meeting Greek just a few months ago, man,

1014
00:57:12.400 --> 00:57:14.840
we had a ball. There's like a like one hundred

1015
00:57:14.920 --> 00:57:19.119
and thirty people showed up out there. I mean, and

1016
00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:21.840
this was and and I was honored to be the

1017
00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:25.280
featured speaker and entertainer, you know, But I didn't do

1018
00:57:25.320 --> 00:57:26.960
a whole lot. I enjoyed it, but I enjoyed it,

1019
00:57:27.159 --> 00:57:29.000
you know, doing a little bit and picking and singing.

1020
00:57:29.039 --> 00:57:32.119
But mingling with everybody you know, and so many people

1021
00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:35.440
from the group, you know, and Misty and Spencer and

1022
00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:39.679
Coombo was there, and Terry Allen and Billy Shilling. I

1023
00:57:39.719 --> 00:57:42.800
mean just just everybody, Phillie and John. I could just

1024
00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:44.960
mention so many good friends. But yeah, I do enjoy

1025
00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:47.760
it mingland and uh and hanging out with others and

1026
00:57:47.800 --> 00:57:52.920
the you know, squatching a little bit uh with with whoever.

1027
00:57:52.960 --> 00:57:54.800
And I've been portrayed to meet a lot of the

1028
00:57:55.960 --> 00:57:58.519
a lot a lot of why I don't I don't

1029
00:57:58.599 --> 00:58:01.119
like use the poor big time hours, but more of

1030
00:58:01.159 --> 00:58:04.679
the well known researchers and things like you know, MK

1031
00:58:04.880 --> 00:58:09.320
Davis and Stacy Brown, a bunch of folks. And I've

1032
00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:14.039
been fortunate to do to do some speaking engagements here recently.

1033
00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:18.599
I did a couple earlier this year and just standing

1034
00:58:18.599 --> 00:58:20.440
in the room. Only it wasn't because of me, you know,

1035
00:58:20.480 --> 00:58:23.119
because we just had a good conference with some great

1036
00:58:23.159 --> 00:58:27.119
lineup and stuff. But I got the honor of hosting

1037
00:58:27.360 --> 00:58:31.320
and being the MC for a couple of conferences, and

1038
00:58:31.920 --> 00:58:34.000
I got a few things on the board that I'm

1039
00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:37.239
gonna do this this year, just you know, I figured

1040
00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:39.639
this could be one of my last big years. I'm

1041
00:58:39.639 --> 00:58:41.920
getting older as far as I'm gonna just go parts,

1042
00:58:41.960 --> 00:58:46.440
you know, because I just retired this year, just turned

1043
00:58:46.679 --> 00:58:50.079
sixty seven, so I'm officially retired, even though I've been

1044
00:58:50.119 --> 00:58:55.280
medically retired since twenty fourteen because of the net problems

1045
00:58:55.280 --> 00:58:59.800
and stuff I have. But I'm officially retired now, so

1046
00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:02.360
I'm getting out and doing more. And but I got

1047
00:59:02.360 --> 00:59:06.280
something kind of like I'll be speaking at in Pine Mountain,

1048
00:59:06.320 --> 00:59:11.000
Georgia on the forest at a public library. And then

1049
00:59:11.400 --> 00:59:16.360
I'll be in Aniston, Alabama next month in June the

1050
00:59:16.440 --> 00:59:20.079
sixth and seventh, I think it is at the Alabama

1051
00:59:20.119 --> 00:59:26.199
big Foot Conference. Then I'll be in hopefully at Beechwoot

1052
00:59:26.559 --> 00:59:30.280
with Todd Nice and July. Oh cool, Oregon. Wow, you're

1053
00:59:30.320 --> 00:59:34.039
headed out there, Oregon. Nice. Nice. I'm trying my best.

1054
00:59:34.280 --> 00:59:36.199
It was an honor to be invited, and this is

1055
00:59:36.239 --> 00:59:39.000
the last year they're having it, you know, so to

1056
00:59:39.079 --> 00:59:41.480
be invited to that's an honor to start with, you know.

1057
00:59:41.880 --> 00:59:43.960
So that's that's pretty cool. So I'm gonna try my

1058
00:59:44.039 --> 00:59:47.960
best to make that. And then I got something in

1059
00:59:48.039 --> 00:59:55.840
Missouri with Texas Western and everyone in September.

1060
00:59:56.159 --> 01:00:00.920
The Kansas City Conference Yeah, I think it's yeah area,

1061
01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:01.480
that's awesome.

1062
01:00:01.800 --> 01:00:05.280
Yeah, almost like I'm in the music business again, because

1063
01:00:05.280 --> 01:00:08.440
I hadn't toured and traveled in a long long time.

1064
01:00:08.559 --> 01:00:10.480
But you stay on the road.

1065
01:00:12.079 --> 01:00:15.239
Absolutely well. It sounds like there's a lot of different

1066
01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:18.719
places that people could catch up with you Dale, especially

1067
01:00:18.760 --> 01:00:21.360
this year. But yeah, I just want to say thank

1068
01:00:21.400 --> 01:00:24.320
you for spending some time on the show and for

1069
01:00:24.440 --> 01:00:29.320
sharing what you're experiencing down there in Alabama, in your backyard.

1070
01:00:29.400 --> 01:00:31.079
It's been a pleasure chatting with you.

1071
01:00:32.639 --> 01:00:35.719
Oh. I have been Jordan to the max, I really have.

1072
01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:38.079
And like I said, I appreciate you inviting me to

1073
01:00:38.400 --> 01:00:40.559
come home to your show. I've been a big band

1074
01:00:40.599 --> 01:00:43.480
for a long time. And and uh, you know, if

1075
01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:45.840
anyone liked to get in touch with me, like I say,

1076
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:50.000
you can just google my name. And definitely, uh, there's

1077
01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:53.239
definitely one song that I won't I want people to

1078
01:00:53.280 --> 01:00:58.320
hear and and I always tell about it because because

1079
01:00:58.400 --> 01:01:02.320
because I wrote it and recorded as far veterans veterans

1080
01:01:03.159 --> 01:01:06.880
that protect our country and our freedom are very important

1081
01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:09.480
to me, you know. And and I never passed one

1082
01:01:09.480 --> 01:01:12.440
that I don't hug its Nick if I can. But

1083
01:01:12.679 --> 01:01:17.039
this this song I wrote and recorded back in two

1084
01:01:17.119 --> 01:01:20.079
thousand and seven, I believe it was, and a song

1085
01:01:20.199 --> 01:01:25.519
called My My Soldier Prayer, m Y My Soldier Prayer.

1086
01:01:26.440 --> 01:01:27.920
And like I said, it's one of the first things

1087
01:01:28.599 --> 01:01:30.840
come up when you google my name. But it's a

1088
01:01:31.239 --> 01:01:36.239
tribute to our falling soldiers and falling heroes. And it

1089
01:01:36.320 --> 01:01:39.079
gets a lot of tension every year, especially around Veterans

1090
01:01:39.119 --> 01:01:41.480
Day and Memorial Day like that, and it gets played

1091
01:01:41.480 --> 01:01:45.840
at veterans parades and funerals and things like that. And

1092
01:01:46.199 --> 01:01:50.679
it was actually if you remember the super country legendary

1093
01:01:50.960 --> 01:01:55.920
country singer George Jones, well it was actually one of

1094
01:01:55.960 --> 01:01:59.800
his favorite songs. George said it was Says said said

1095
01:01:59.840 --> 01:02:03.280
it was the greatest military tribute he had ever heard,

1096
01:02:03.760 --> 01:02:06.320
which is a big honor, you know, from somebody like

1097
01:02:06.960 --> 01:02:10.000
George Jones, you know. Uh. But anyway, I would like

1098
01:02:10.039 --> 01:02:13.360
people listen to that, and uh and and and and

1099
01:02:13.360 --> 01:02:16.360
and honor, honor, honor our veterans, you know. And if

1100
01:02:16.440 --> 01:02:18.920
if you got a friend of family member that's that's

1101
01:02:19.000 --> 01:02:22.760
lost someone uh, you know, for fight for our country,

1102
01:02:22.840 --> 01:02:24.920
you know, let them here to let them know we

1103
01:02:24.960 --> 01:02:28.679
appreciate them. But anyway, that's that's that's that's my little

1104
01:02:28.760 --> 01:02:31.599
music plug. But I always thinks very important to to

1105
01:02:31.679 --> 01:02:33.639
support our veterans and our troops.

1106
01:02:34.480 --> 01:02:38.079
Absolutely, and we'll have a link to your YouTube channel

1107
01:02:38.119 --> 01:02:40.760
as well in the show notes for this. Is there

1108
01:02:40.800 --> 01:02:46.199
any other thing that you would like to people like

1109
01:02:46.280 --> 01:02:49.320
people to keep up to date with you? Or is

1110
01:02:49.360 --> 01:02:53.559
the main thing, you know, checking out your music and

1111
01:02:54.000 --> 01:02:54.960
your YouTube channel?

1112
01:02:56.320 --> 01:02:58.800
Well? Yeah, or they can go to my Facebook page

1113
01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:03.119
of course, I think it's listened. Dale Boswell Music is

1114
01:03:03.599 --> 01:03:06.480
my actual Facebook name, you know, but but you can

1115
01:03:06.480 --> 01:03:09.039
find it once you google me. And uh and also

1116
01:03:09.159 --> 01:03:11.920
my like say, my YouTube page. I welcome people to

1117
01:03:11.960 --> 01:03:13.920
come on there. There's lots of stuff, uh you know,

1118
01:03:14.599 --> 01:03:18.559
uh my personal stuff and and fun stuff music through

1119
01:03:18.559 --> 01:03:21.800
the years that uh music videos and different places and

1120
01:03:21.840 --> 01:03:24.199
the events I played that plus all my big foot

1121
01:03:24.280 --> 01:03:28.239
stuff is there on my YouTube page and uh, so

1122
01:03:28.280 --> 01:03:30.639
you can check all that out and like, say something,

1123
01:03:30.679 --> 01:03:34.000
I never advertise a lot if you don't see and

1124
01:03:34.039 --> 01:03:37.400
one thing is you'll never hear me say like and subscribe.

1125
01:03:37.440 --> 01:03:39.599
I don't ever, I don't. I don't post enough stuff

1126
01:03:39.599 --> 01:03:41.280
to even think about that, but you know I don't.

1127
01:03:41.679 --> 01:03:44.000
I do love people check it out and especially the

1128
01:03:44.039 --> 01:03:48.320
music part of it because it's a big part of

1129
01:03:48.360 --> 01:03:52.199
my life. And now now the boogern thing is is

1130
01:03:52.679 --> 01:03:56.119
I call it my my new prestigious career. So I've

1131
01:03:56.159 --> 01:03:58.960
had I'm having so much fun. And again I do

1132
01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:02.119
appreciate you, uh bite me on your show here Mayah.

1133
01:04:02.159 --> 01:04:07.039
Absolutely Dale has been privileged chatting with you and hopefully

1134
01:04:07.039 --> 01:04:10.639
our paths will cross one day. But thank you again

1135
01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:13.480
so much for coming on and you have a great

1136
01:04:13.519 --> 01:04:14.159
rest of your day.

1137
01:04:14.159 --> 01:04:17.599
Man, Thank you sir, and we'll talk to you soon.

1138
01:04:21.280 --> 01:04:22.840
Just wanted to take a minute to say thank you

1139
01:04:22.880 --> 01:04:26.039
truly for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast.

1140
01:04:26.480 --> 01:04:28.559
Dale's story is a rare one, not just because of

1141
01:04:28.559 --> 01:04:30.400
what he caught on camera, but because of the way

1142
01:04:30.440 --> 01:04:32.960
he stayed open to the mystery in his own backyard.

1143
01:04:33.320 --> 01:04:35.840
So huge thanks to Dale for sharing his journey from

1144
01:04:35.920 --> 01:04:38.800
music stages to forest clearings and for reminding us that

1145
01:04:38.920 --> 01:04:42.039
sometimes the unknown lives just beyond the porch light. And

1146
01:04:42.039 --> 01:04:44.920
if you enjoyed this conversation, please subscribe to us on YouTube,

1147
01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:47.400
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1148
01:04:48.039 --> 01:04:49.639
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1149
01:04:49.639 --> 01:04:53.079
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1150
01:04:53.119 --> 01:04:55.800
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1151
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1152
01:04:58.119 --> 01:05:01.440
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1153
01:05:01.559 --> 01:05:03.760
or someone you know has had a Bigfoot encounter, especially

1154
01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:06.880
in the South or near Alabama, shoot me an email

1155
01:05:06.960 --> 01:05:10.519
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1156
01:05:10.559 --> 01:05:13.800
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1157
01:05:14.320 --> 01:05:17.880
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1158
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1159
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1160
01:05:24.679 --> 01:05:29.239
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1161
01:05:29.280 --> 01:05:31.639
being part of the Bigfoot Society. And until next time,

1162
01:05:32.360 --> 01:05:34.760
keep your eyes open, trust your gut, and never stop

1163
01:05:34.800 --> 01:05:37.039
asking what else might be out there And see you

1164
01:05:37.079 --> 01:05:37.599
in the woods.