Boots on the Ground at the Paul Property, Pt. 2 | Tennessee

0:00 Welcome to Big for Society. If you have Bigfoot activity to report from the same areas discussed in this episode, please reach out to me directly after this episode. And if you'd like to be on the podcast to discuss a personal Bigfoot encounter, please reach out to me directly at Big for Society at gmail dot com. Do you wish there was more Big for Society to listen to you every week? Well there is now. If you become a supporting member over at Patreon, you get a special members only episode every single week on Wednesdays, and sometimes even more episodes. Head on over to patreon dot com. Forward slash the Big for Society And now let's get on with the show. And I am going to bring up a thermal this time.

0:43 Let me close out all these images real quick, just to help me out here. This is a thermal. This is from behind Mark's house, and we bring up my notes here. This was I think mid June, maybe June twenty third. We were there and we were setting out front of Mark's house and we had a fire going and we were just talking, not out looking. We had both of our thumoals. We were scanning and looking and then we thought let's go around behind Mark's house and just see if there's anything. And that's when we call this. This is actually two individuals. This is right there to call in is a juvenile on the back of another as what you can see it. Unfortunately, there's heavy foliage there, but this individual on the back that you can see their legs wrapped around the front. You can see the light heat coming down there. That is the larger of the two individuals. And this is the larger the two individuals had. That was probable. Yep, the arm coming around there, it's almost like this. So we're looking at the right side of these two individuals. There's the smallest head, there's the largest of the two, and this little heat signature right there lines up with the juvenile on the back, its left arm wrapped around the neck or the chest

2:14 of the bigger individual. Not move my mouse out of the way, you'll see that little red heat area. So this time they got us. We preadjusted the thermals for eighty eighty five yards and here we are less than twenty yards for them. So we didn't get that crystal cre or crystal clear resolution that we would hope to have gotten, because like I said once. Once we're there, then they know what they do, not hang around long, they move on. It's definitely taller than the other thermal you've showed for sure. Yeah, in the optic. The optical here the X and y axis where this is closer, it's not going to auto configure. Your five ten yards is not going to be the same versus looking at up eighty yards. We would I think the larger these two individuals here is about five and a half maybe six foot tall. We would the only way to truly show or represent that size is for one of us to be there and do the same picture and line them up like we did with Mark, and also on the same day. This picture here, this is when we first seen them hiding.

3:27 This didn't come through very well. Like I said, all the foliage, you can see the tree limbs in front of them, there's leaves everywhere. But right here where I'm calling out, there is a left eve of an individual and there is a right eye. So there were about four individuals and these were smaller all together right behind Mark's house, and it was just a fluke as we all three walked around there that we were able to capture them. And once we came around there, they started moving away quick, so we didn't They didn't give us much of an opportunity to film them with the thermals. And I've got one last picture here that that's a little bit better. Actually it's not. This just shows two of them that this is in that same area from the first picture where we had a smaller juvenile on the back of the larger sasquatch. But it's a little bit distorted too. All right, We have covered our daytime pictures, our thermal pictures that we had selected, and before we get into the audio, actually let's let's go ahead, and before we get into our audios, we also have some pictures and videos of orbs that we captured on the cameras there that we thought your audience would enjoy. So this first first picture coming up here, I'm going to bring the still photograph. This comes from our tilt pan zoom camera behind the back of Mark's house. Now I'm

4:58 going to zoom in here, and obviously you can see a deer there. You can see the night eye shine from the deer, and this object right here, I'm just gonna call it an orb. I have no idea what it is. We've talked about this a great length. It's about the size of the basketball. And I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead and pull up the video and just let you guys watch a ten second video of it here so you can see. So that was a moth that flew by the front of the camera, and that deer is sitting there looking east and there it comes. Play it again. So the deer's just there looking and out of nowhere up from the forest. There it goes the moth. We know that's a moth. You can see the wings on it. There one another moth, and here this thing comes that way.

6:00 Yeah, that is so weird. It does come up from the forest almost just comes out of nowhere. Yeah. So you can see in the top right corner where at twenty the time is at three forty two in the morning. This is July twenty second, or at twenty six, twenty seven seconds, twenty eight, twenty nine, thirty thirty one. Here it comes and I have absolutely no idea of what that is. Here is another steel photograph that we have taken from the video zooming it in there. You don't see it's not a bug. The bugs well with the infrared light. When the infrared light hits a moth or bug or cricket or anything else, that insect will stay illuminated. What you've seen. Whatever this is, I'll just call it an orb It is producing its own light.

7:00 Like it's like a lightning bug. How they're bioluminescent. They can create their own light. But lightning bugs don't get this big. This thing is bigger than a basketball. And we see those every night at Mark's house. They every night. You might see one at eleven PM and thirty seconds later, here comes two or three of them, or it might be two am the next night and here's a swarm of fifteen of them. Come in different ways. Yeah. Yeah, so you're seeing these just with your eyes, like, not just on video. Just on the video. Okay, okay.

7:42 When we've been down there at night, Charles and I, we don't go in the backyard very often in fear that we're going to push the sasquatches back down or back into the woods, so we'll stay in the front yard. We've never I've watched video of when we're out front of Mark's house, reviewed that video, and I've never seen these orb things while we're out front a few times that we have been out back of Mark's house. The next day I reviewed the video. I never see the orbs. They'll come out when deer around, but that's the this is the only time, so I can't say I have captured on the front cameras what appears to be orbs without infrared light there. Mark has a security light on the front of this property, and I've captured, actually on two occasions in the ORB flying around the transformer on that utility pote like it would fly in toward the transformer, circle it around, go around to the transformer a time or two, and then it backs off about twenty or thirty foot and then it goes back to it. It would do that those series of moves about ten or twenty times and then it would fly off. So that's one.

9:00 Here is I'm gonna close this out and I'm gonna show the audience another ORB from another date. Here. I'll bring up the picture first so you can see it. So this is on July twenty six, twenty twenty four, at three twenty three in the morning. You can see this one. And if I remember correctly, this guy is gonna be going a lot faster here's another pictures. He's flying from the front of Mark's home into the woods. So I'm gonna go ahead and bring up the video. So here we go thirty two areas. See how he's producing his own light play it again. See it's like he flies slow. Now he's picking up speed.

9:48 It's like the same thing. Like how it like appears out of nowhere from the woods. Yeah, yeah, and you definitely see it pulsing. Yeah, like it's creating its light play that. Oh my goodness, dude, this is nuts. And the same direction and the same shape. Zoom in on it there. And this isn't a circular shape. I don't know the geometric. It would be a trapezoid. It seems to be a little bit wider, and it's height a little bit shorter. But that's one characteristic that you can see in all of them. It's something else. Let me bring up another org here. Let me close all these out real quick. So this is the orb number three. So I'm going to bring up a picture.

10:37 So this guy gets closer and right here, he's not that bright. And you can see this sampling. You see the base of this sampling, and you can see part of the sapling. You can actually see through this thing, whatever it is. So here's another example. I've went through the tilt and zoom camera does thirty frames per second. I'd go through frame by frame and try to pull out the best and anything. And if you look at it close enough, as crazy as it is, that looks like a left eye. That looks like a right eye. That looks like a nose. This looks like a mouth.

11:19 Maybe it's paradolia. I've shown these to a lot of other people and they too have recognized that, Man, there's a face there. Yeah, that would be the nose, there would be the right eye, there would be the left eye mouth. So I'm gonna go ahead and play the full video here. It's a short video, and you could see it fly through there. There it comes and it was pulsing with the light. Did you see that? Yeah? Oh yeah, play it again. You can even say it coming from back end the world.

12:00 Yeah. Maybe some of your audience members will have some ideas or maybe they've encountered or captured similar things. The one with the deer again, that the one came over. Look, it's coming right up out of the same hole in the woods as the one with the deer, say it come right up. To Yeah, it comes to the left of the deer there. It'll be coming out here in a second. So it's almost like he flew through that tree right there. I'm gonna play again. So if I dhrink this down, if you look directly behind that deer as a shagbark hickory tree, and it's almost like it flies through part of it, it's more time here. And like I said, everyone, you just seen them off the bugs that you see, they stay a solid color, and these things, whatever they are, they seem to admit their own white pulse.

12:55 Now have you found anything down in the woods in that area where it seems to be coming out of. We found tracks, but we'd not you know, tree breaks and things like that. But something that I saw was really interesting. Just across the road and down from mark maybe eighth of a mile or something, somebody had put up a new no truspassing sign and that had been put up with screws, and the screws were new, but the sign looked like it something had a claw hand that had just grabbed it and toward all the pieces. And it's a new sign, and obviously they didn't have a hammer there. Now that was nails because it was a screws and you can almost say like knuckle marks, like something had punched it or grabbed it with its hand and just wadded it up like a piece of notebook papermost I don't know if he's got any pictures of that, but that's all I was stuck in my head. Wow, what would have had the power to have done that? And you can see the individual grab marks in it.

14:11 That's very interesting, Charles, Yeah, that that just adds. You know, listeners will remember that when I talked to Mark previously, there's there are things that happened in that area. For example, there was the neighbor lady whose dog got hurt pretty bad by the interaction with one of these creatures. I think he was telling me, I. Think that, Yeah, I think they just didn't like that sign up because it was new, trying to get it down or destroy it or take it or something. But if it had been a person, they would have gone ahead and got it on down. Obviously they would have had a tool or something that they were done it with.

14:51 But you can actually, I most like see the individual knuckle marks or finger marks like something had just grabbed it, just totally destroyed it. You can clearly say a. Lot big for society will be right back after these messages. Wow, it's extremely interesting. So this is the last orb we got. We'd selected here.

15:34 So this is a steal photograph from eleven twenty nine, twenty four eleven oh six pm. And down here at the bottom you can see it. It is going to well, I'm just gonna I'll go ahead and bring up the video. We'll watch it. So it's flying out of the woods. See how it scoots along. Let me play it again. It's going to be coming from the left out of the woods, up and over, and it's moving along pretty quick, and then it slows down and then it picks up speed again. But I've got my notes here for your audience. Notice there's no wind blowing here. This is the end of November. You can still see some leaves on the tree. Actually, and we bring up photograph of people. It better none of these small leaves blowing into November, which we expect.

16:25 Almost all the foliages off the trees. So you don't see any other moths or bendles or other flying insects in the video. But yet These things are producing their own light intensity. They go from a brighter state to a less lighter state of intensity. Another thing, the insects are very erratic. Like the deer video we've seen the moth flying laught up and down. These things are more trajectory taking a path across the back of Mark's yard. This isn't a rotor helicopter. There's no propeller, there's jet thrust, there's no flaps for your lift or drag. There's no ailer ones for rotating, there's no rudder for your side to side, y'all, there's no elevators. It's interesting whatever they are.

17:12 But the distance from the camera that's taking these pictures to where this orb object is right there is probably about forty foot. The grass that' even blown over below it there, see, I mean it's still standing up. Yeah. If there was any kind of rotation, that would have been laid over. Yeap. Yeah's a great call out. And one thing, these orb things travel at different speeds. So basically from the edge of the forest here where we first seen it in the video over to where it goes out of the video with the edge of Mark's home, that's probably about sixty to seventy feet. This thing is traveling at a speed, this orb is it's covering about sixty five feet in a second, maybe a second and a half. There, sixty five feet per second is forty four point three miles per hour. I've seen some of these orbs come all the way over here from the right, all the way down to here where I'm calling out where the camera name Echo one is over here, to the right mark. I've seen this, seen them travel this distance here going so fast it's like half a second and basically that's about one hundred and one hundred and ten feet maybe, So that's like seventy seventy five miles per hour. There's no insect that travels that fast.

18:37 And that way. Does it go past the end of the trailer or does it disappear into the trailer? It disappears into it. That's that's a good point. That's the other thing. So I'm just pierce into the trailer. Oh yeah, so. You can see the corner of the trailer right here here. Listen, let me get it. So right here is the corner of the trailer, very tip and it goes all the way down and then there. So we'll play this and it flies right through it. Yeah. Yeah, that did not go away in the far end. That came back this way. That goes right into the trailer.

19:21 And even look at it as it passes these trees on the far left when it comes into view. Yeah, it's he's really going fast. And then it slows down and he starts speeding up toward the end. So for your viewers that I'm going to try to call it out over here, this is a sort of the path that's going to make from here to here. Watch how fast it's going and then it just slows down right here, it comes slows down, Bobs starts speeding up. And that's come in a different direction the previous one with the deer of something there and the other and that came that was coming from like straight ahead, coming toward us, So that would have been like a north south where this one's coming from east to west. So you know it's they travel in different directions. I guess that's what I'm driving.

20:16 So I'm gonna play the deer one more time in at the top where at twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty nine, thirty one, so at thirty two to thirty three, that this object came out of the woods, crossed over the deer, went toward us, traveled about sixty five seventy feet. I know it's hard to see just in the video there, that's about forty five fifty miles per hour that it traveled and we're seeing it. So I just I don't it's not an insect. Clearly quit it one more time. Here, are there any burial mounds or anything around his area close as property or anything.

20:58 Not that we're aware of. There's a cemetery I think probably about two miles away. Okay, yeah, nothing that we're aware of there. All right, So that was that was the last of our orbs. There. Are you ready to get into the vocalizations. That we captured before we do? I just thought of another question, So did Mark know about the orbs before you guys got involved? Or is that how he realized, oh, I've got this orb thing going on too. I think they he had mentioned it before, but he definitely nothing. Like I said, we can capture those every night.

21:42 Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, yeah, let's let's get right into it then. Yeah. Okay, and now this vocalization thing, it doesn't have any kind of a red light or anything like that. So this is literally them at their they're normal. Yeah. Yes. So one of the things that we had done is we have a song Bird many too long duration recorder and we've got two speakers set up for it for stereo sound, and we mounted this audio recorder behind Mark's house about thirty forty foot into the woods going down the hill. It records continuously twenty four to seven for up to about two weeks, maybe fourteen fifteen days.

22:31 The batteries will last, so we would switch out the SD cards that the audio files are written to with, do audio cards and put new batteries in and I'm guessing we deploy that probably the end of in the mid June up through November. And this audio is all coming from that recorder that we had deployed. And one of the things that I have done here, I'm going to pause this as I bring it up up here. In every slide here that you see, we have the date that the audio was made, the time, so this is when it was five twenty nine, twenty twenty four, around eight pm. With the audio recorder. There's a software called Kaleidoscope that you can play back and it basically creates the visualization of the sound that you see in this bottom window here, so when you go through you don't have to listen to every minute of every sound ever made. You quickly learn the sound has representation and visual contexts, and you can scan a lot of video knowing where to look. And then up here at the top, this is just the decibel range that the screenshot was set up when we were going through it and listening. Actually, we deployed this, yeah, I think it was five twenty

24:04 five is when we deploy this audio recorder, and this is one of the first sounds that we got. And for your audience, about thirteen seconds into it, you're gonna hear bipedal footsteps are gonna start off very faint, and they're gonna get louder louder. Then around the thirteen second mark, you're gonna hear this gurgle pop sound and you're gonna hear this thing walk up to our audio recorder and you're gonna hear it sniff and you're gonna hear him make like a noise at about thirty five seconds, so I think this whole clip is about forty seconds. So here we go m hm, and there he walks away.

25:35 You want to play it again, it's almost making like a humming noise at one point or. Yeah, yeah, about I think it's about thirty five seconds into it. He's sort of like, yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, I definitely played again. The very heavy footsteps. A deer would never make that much noise. Oh yeah, all right, here we go. H h.

26:51 Yeah. He definitely came up there given a good wiff, didn't he. How high up on on the tree is that again? So we put the owner what about four foot up off? Four or four? Yeah? Yeah, And one thing earlier we had mentioned I think I did about their sense of smell, and just so your audience knows. So the first time we deployed the audio recorder, we set it up. We actually screwed it into the tree, put a big python lock cable on it, just to make sure nothing happened to it. In the second time there to change the batteries and switch out the SD card, mother nature called and I had to do my business number one and I just stepped over about ten foot away from that audio recorder. When we reviewed that next time, I was down the sasquatch that came up after that, I think it was two days after we had changed out the batteries and SD card urinated in the same area I did, and you hear it plain as day on audio recorder.

27:54 So we were like, wow, did it have a scent? Can it is its sense of smell that acute? That good? So we did an experiment. I did that three more times, and every time I took care of my business there near that audio recorder, the sasquatches would mark over my territory. We thought that, really, that's silly. Yeah, that's also the length of the b like he had said it to me. So I had it on my phone and I went to the restroom and I hit play, and as soon as it started p and I started ping, and it pained like a lot longer and more than I did it.

28:34 Whatever it was had a bladder the size of a cow. It's not like obviously there's no cows in that area. Though, Charles, that's the best science experiment I've ever heard. That's a good job, dude. So this, like I said, this is from five twenty nine. Now our next audio is going to see here. This audio is from July twentieth, twenty twenty four. It's around three in the morning and it is there with me here one say, about twenty one seconds into this audio, you're going to hear how a bigfoot? How? Okay? All right, here we go. There he was, He was like a Chebacca. How did that come through that?

29:44 Yes, it's faint, but I could pick it up. Yeah, that is very interesting. I learnally thought that was outside right now. I thought that was like I didn't remember that. I thought I was outside that It was faint but very distinct. I'll play it one more time. All right, yep, there is Chebacca. How big?

30:32 The society will be right back after these messages. That's awesome? Is that something that he does? He hear that Chewbacca howell quite a bit? Or we've actually we've captured Chebacca howl about three or four times. Yeah, it's it's definitely not a one offer that they do, oh ma'am. And as loud as you can hear it picking the crackets and stuff up that how might have been a mile away. That thing is just so sensitive, like say, it picks up airplanes flying over.

31:23 Head, so our audio find them will bring up. Is you're going to hear another howl about eleven seconds into it, So I'll just go ahead and double click it and we'll let it play as it comes up on the screen. It's very mournful like that's interesting. Yeah, I'll play it one more time and it's hard to play, but you'll see at that tick mark on that access there you'll see the visual download between the zero and one point zero killer hurt. So I'll play this and you'll watch it when it goes over. Yeah, So our next audio is, let me pull up my notes here. Is about six seconds into this audio, you're going to hear a vocalization, and then as the audio continues to play, you'll hear another vocalization about thirteen seconds.

32:52 So I'll just go ahead and pull it up and let it play as it comes over the screen and it makes like a wou la law sound. Did that come true for you? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll. Go ahead and play it one more time here. So you know this this audio was, you know, July seventeenth, twenty twenty four, around ten pm. You know, we had Charles Knye, not absolutely, but we'd always thought that sasquatch creatures were more active at night time, maybe more nocturnal.

33:57 But the Paul property has taught us over you may get action during the day, tree knocks, vocalizations, just as easily at night you get the same thing. There's really no rhyme or reason other than if you're out there, be listening and be looking because something may happen. The Tennessee place is more closer to their home. I think they're living closer to that area we're in. The Kentucky encounters we had, I think those were on a hunting mission or had traveled a little further away. I don't think we quite hit in quote unquote their neighborhood for when Tennessee. Obviously we are right in the hood.

34:42 That's where they live, that's where they stay, that's where they eat, hunt, and it's the food supply around there. You can literally even a human can just walk through the woods picking up big monster sized grapes that grow down there and fall and just cover the We don't have grape buying grapes up here in Kentucky. I had never seen that before. And for sammons and pairs, I mean just the food is abundance their form. They don't have to travel to hut or look other places. Oh yeah, you've got grapes, but you've also got all the deer that you're picking up on your video and cameras as well.

35:24 Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah, abundance of wildlife and there's plenty of food in those forests down there. And in our next audio, you're gonna hear a vocalization at six seconds, and this is a little bit longer vocalization. I think it go. It'll start around six seconds into it and maybe end at twelve or thirteen seconds. So I'll just go ahead and pull that out real quick, and here we go. So that one was crazy. It's like it was going and did it for some time. I'll go ahead and play it one more time for your audience.

36:34 Could possibly be a female calling in juveniles that are outplaying. Obviously that one was a whole lot different than the others. Yeah, I definitely agree. I think that was a female voice. Rather than absolutely, I would say definitely, I would say female if I had to put that either male or female. But it I keep hearing almost something that found similar to a part of language, but different in its very strength. That's what made me think that maybe it was a female calling in the juveniles that were maybe out playing or hunting, like it's time to come on home, or like you say, it just sound different than the other house that we have heard. How it can be I'm over here or where you at? But this one we just listened to. It's almost like it was communicating with another like hey, come on in suppers ready, or it's getting dark, come on in it. It was like a communication by the length of it. Yeah, like it's trying to tell somebody's telling another one something.

37:39 Yeah. What's so cool is these sounds so far they're different than this is very unique audio, which is very cool. Yeah. Yeah, So our next audio this is this is really good. So we're actually this was made July eleventh, twenty twenty four, and to give you the context, it was afternoon. Mark had just finished mowing his yard and he was out back and one of the things he always done after he mowed his yard out back, he has a water hose and Bill run water over his hair to cool down. And his girlfriend Sonia was there.

38:23 But they after he got done mowing, there was a bigfoot in the woods behind his house. In the bigfoot impersonated the lawnmower. So what we've got is the first audio I'll play is actually the Bigfoot imitating a lawnmower. And then immediately after the Bigfoot at or sasquatch had done that, Mark made his lawnmower imitation. So you'll be able to see on the kaleidoscope the different ranges of a human voice doing this lawnmower versus a sasquatch. And then after we go through each of these audios a couple of times, I've got a slide that I'll bring up that you can visually see the difference between Mark doing it and the sasquatch doing it. So here we go with the sasquatch imitating a lawnmower behind Mark's house.

39:33 M hm h. This tricks me. Yeah, yeah, So I'm gonna play the sasquatch one more time and then we'll go to Martin. H He was getting on at the end there.

40:14 That's awesome. That's funny because that's something that would that Mark would bring up in our conversations a lot. Is like they're making the lawnmower noises again. All right, dude, Okay, so for your audience, this is Mark who immediately done his lawnmower impersonation after the sasquatch. So there was Mark. I'll play it one more time, but Mark may have had a misfire starting off there.

40:55 He didn't. He wasn't strong as the sasquatch was coming up. That's awesome. Now, with that being said, this was several years ago. We me and Greg had gone down to the Big South forark, wasn't that And we had found a gravel road out in the middle of nowhere and it was just fields on both sides, and at that point we didn't have thermal, but we're really interested. We didn't have thermal, and we drove to the end of the road and turned around. Obviously nold houses, no nothing anywhere around. And we come back about on the fifty yard line on that road and stopped because it just really opened all the way around, and we heard one that made a weed eater of son and it was loud enough and close enough that it actually put us in the truck.

42:10 We had been setting out on the tailgate watching stars and looking around, and that caught us so off guard that, yeah, we literally got in the truck and turned it around so that way if something came we could go ahead and leave. So they do imitate noises, obviously that they heard it just like a kid would, definitely. So here is the kaleidoscope representation of the sasquatch that you just heard. And then here is Mark and I'm going to pull this over here and I'm going to zoom in. We talked about the one to two kill a hurtz zone. Just look at the sasquatch right here.

42:50 You can see him. He is really and he was much louder, more of a baritone, like a baritone deep singer, compared to Mark over here. You heard Mark. Now, Mark wasn't initially making the greater depth noises, but it's night and day when you look at these two there at the end where Mark was really reving his engine, he got up into the range air of about one and a half killer hertz. But you can see the sasquatch was above two two and a half there several times through here. So that was really really amazing to have captured that. And like Charles said, I can't say definitively that what we heard in the Big South Fork. It sounded like a real weed eater and I was just scratching my head. There's nobody around more in the middle of nowhere. That's such a remote area probably ten miles from where we were at in the Big South Fork.

43:46 The University of Knoxville, University of Tennessee, I should say, they have an astronomy viewing area there. It's a great place if you're into stargazing. There is like zero light pollution down there because there's just absolutely not thing but forrest. And I think that Sasquatch did a pretty good Lawn Warner impersonation as well. He was reving and lowering and didn't have any misfires for sure. And like I say, we had drove to the end of the road, So we drove to the end of the road and then turned around and drove halfway back out the direction we heard at making the weed eater noise. We knew for sure there were no houses or vehicles or driveways or anything. It was almost like a little gravel road that just went to a few farms that didn't even have fences up. It was almost like open grazing or something.

44:39 Sure. The other thing you can also see there's and I'm not an audio expert, but where the sixth Hurts is there seems to be a difference in the band that goes across there between the two as well. Yeah, yeah, I agree, yep, yeah yeah. The Sasquatch he was just deeper for sure, and louder as well. But I thought that was something If any of your audience watching this, they've ever encountered the same or been able to capture, and I'd love to hear more of them doing impersonations. That's fascinating evidence that you captured through this. I think this is one of the coolest pieces of evidence that you have. Is this right here?

45:23 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And going back to our first audio, just sow your audience, mister I had sent that to you, Jeremiah, and you'd forwarded it and some other samples that we had collected at Marx to mister David Ellis of the Olympic Project, and this is most definitely his wheelhouse. And just so your audience knows, he reviewed the first audio that you listened to and found a great significance to it. He had replied to your email and basically talked about a orangutang in a German zoo by the name of Tilda and how she they call it percussive speech, how she started forming symbols and trying to make words.

46:09 Big the society will be right back after these messages. And in the first audio we played about the six seconds in there you heard that popping noise, and mister Ellis found that very significant because it matched up with Tilda and another research area that he had worked in, and he came to the conclusion that these are not humans. But in I guess a lot of audio analysis, this is a theory of how humans progress into using speech through the sounds clicks, mouth pops, and grunts as a natural progression. So I was really excited and very thankful to mister Ellis for his time and efforts in reviewing this and getting back to me with this information. It just it was wonderful and I'm very thankful to him and his group.

47:16 It's weird because I remember that back and forth with David, and at the same time, I'm also analyzing audio that had been captured from the meadow area out in Oakridge, Oregon, and the same kind of things were being noticed in audio from out there as well. It's just it's very strange kind of connections and synchronicities. But yeah, fascinating stuff. Yeah, absolutely, you know what's going on in Tennessee, and it's happening in Iowa and Washington State. You really have to stand back and scratch your head and understand that there's there's more to sasquatches than people realize. Although we're we still haven't got species recognition or protection, but maybe this will be one step closer into moving that needle. Absolutely, yeah, just so your audience knows that these were some of the things that we have been able to capture and document and record at the Mark Paul property. We didn't do everything. I don't we if we tried to do that, it might be a twenty show round. But it's been a wonderful place, and I think if we're at a progression at the Paul property, we you know, Charles, myself and Mark we've been very fortunate and a lot has come from the Paul property. But I think technology needs to be leveraged in the field of high resolution thermal, particularly tilt pan zoom thermal security cameras, because these creatures

48:51 are not going to come around the infrared light or at least this group around Mark, so it's not going to have anything to do with it, but a high definition thermal you know, it's come a long way. It's really good or our tilt pan zoom camera is mounted. If that were a thermal camera, high definition thermal security camera, you're going to be getting some outstanding video as well as unbelievable resolution of details of these creatures that are an atom, their faces, their size, everything. It'll be interesting to see where this goes next. It sounds like your plan is to continue with this property and to continue looking at evidence trying to gather But yeah, just imagine what could come from it if there was more improved technology that would be able to be used.

49:41 Sure, yep, and my apologies, I had forgot. We have one more audio. I apologize, this too, is a really good audio. Let me give your audience the backstory, all right. Mid October I had made a trip in a friend of mine that I worked with, a colleague by the name of Ron Cavalier, who also is researcher from Central Iowa. He came down and we got a cabin for a week at Standingstone State Park and we had done some work at Mark's property as well as we focused a lot in the standing Stone State Park in state Forest and we you know, another gentleman who's a researcher in that area, gentleman by the name of Craig Roach, and he invited Mark Paul, myself and Ron Cavalier out. We went out on a night hike to some area where he had noted some activity, found some good footprints, and what we did is we took our long duration audio recorder and I mounted that to my backpack. So the whole time we were out, if we got a wood knock, a vocalization, anything, we were going to get it. And we got probably more than we bargained for that night.

50:49 And I'll just go ahead and go into the audio and let your audience here, here we go. That's sort of similar to what we've learned to Dandy.

51:30 Kay, what's your can adream? I thought how it was the first. Non so so that was yeah, so you'll you'll hear you know we I didn't believe those were couts you initially hear, but within that audio, probably about ten seconds, you hear a bigfoot doing a long vocalization and then that big foot care he stops and then he starts up again. But I'll play it one more time and just give you some more background. Initially that was me talking that you hear, we're hearing this and we're traversing down this hill. We're all looking and normally at night time when we go out, Charles myself, we we don't broadcast white light. We allowed thermal to try to get anything.

52:22 But this night, with everyone a larger group, we're like, hey, we're just gonna light up like a Christmas tree. We had white lights going crazy. And as soon as we crossed over the hill as when the cow well yor not cowties, I don't believe, but I could be wrong. We heard those and then the bigfoot in there, so I'll go ahead and play that again. Thankful, that's sort of similar to what we've heard of dand.

53:20 What you're agreed. No, yeah, that's definitely not just coyotes for sure. Yeah yeah. We were all definitely stuffed all that way and a little concerned. Whatever it was there seemed to be many of Craig's a good guy. Yeah, I really enjoy he He is a great guy, and we're thankful for him taking us out that evening. We all had a great time. But let me let me get back to my PowerPoint presentation here. Let's see here moved on me there a little bit. Let's see, so let's get through. So here is some pictures I got with a drone down there that week. So here is a map of the standing Stone State Forest and Park. You can see the state park boundaries. Here there's the key and then the green is the state forest. But once again, just to give your audience an idea, just look at the timber in this area. Another probably twenty to twenty two miles to the horizon. This is the lake. One of the fingers to the lake right there. You'll see that coming into standing Stone. There is just plenty for it.

54:34 You couldn't find people out there if you wanted to. If they wanted to be hidden, you're not going to find a person. What we were touching on earlier, the future research at the Paul property. I talked about leveraging a high definition thermal camera. These guys want nothing to do with visible or infrared light. And I'm going to put on my Carnival Barker hat here in academia. Here is your opportunity. If this type of equipment's probably about twenty to thirty thousand dollars in range, but it's going to produce at the Paul property. If there's an individual or group of people to come together in a partnership to invest in getting this technology. You're going to have the new Patterson Gimblin film in thermal, something that's even going to be tough for the skeptics to deny when you've got high definition thermal and every square inch of these creatures is putting off heat to debunk the costume theory.

55:32 You know. It. Whoever you know, Expedition Bigfoot producers, if you're interested, here's your opportunity. I know you guys are watching. I know they watched the show. Absolutely, yeah, yeah, here's your opportunity. You still continue with your research and your outings in the vast areas, but open up a sideline here. All the infrastructures in place. You've got electricity, you've got good, reliable internet. It's right there. One or two people reviewing the previous night's video. It's no problem for every morning from the previous night, I review our cameras down there. So here it is. I'm telling you the Paul property. Whether these things habituate there, I don't know. Do they transit there? Absolutely they're transitory.

56:21 And this is the opportunity for anyone to bring it up who has the ability to leverage hier end technology than what we can that. Barn and chicken coop. One is on one side of his house probably one hundred foot and the other ones on the other side of his house about the same distance. He said he's seen them come and go out of those two structures, and of course neither one of them have been functioning chicken houses or barns for a long time. They could very well be staying in one of those shelters on nights like tonight when we're going to get mad snow or ice. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. In the other thing, for any group of people that were to come together academia or private investment, whatever, you know, if some folks in that closer to the Paul property, or even in Clay County, Tennessee, train up some folks for specimen collection, hair stool and tissue, have a lab ready to go if you are able to obtain any of those types of samples and ship it off for more DNA evidence.

57:28 It just it seems like you guys put in the hard work and now you're right, it's at the point where there could be some serious evidence, even better than what you've already captured, to come out of this property, and it's not just Mark. Like Mark's property is amazing, but like there's stuff going on around it as well. This whole area is crazy from what he's told me. Yeah, yeah, I agree. And when in the bigger context, the Paul proper is not unique. I'm sure all across this country there are hundreds, if not thousands of Paul properties. Many reasons we don't hear about. The property owners just want to keep quiet. They might have a job where they could face ridicule, potentially lose their job, their form of employment. They just may not want the grief and misery.

58:20 They may not want other people, academics or researchers on their property. But Mark stands ready. He's ready to go up the next level. Like Charles and I. He wants to see species recognition and protection. And this is one of the many ways that it's going to have to the progression is going to have to take for that to happen. Absolutely, if there are people that are interested in this, is there a way they can reach out to you, Greg or what are you thinking? Yeah, so let's do this. Hold on here a second, let me bring something up here, and we'll do this. Just put this on here. Bear with me one second.

59:06 What I'm going to do is I'm going to put my email address. Okay, right here, it is for everyone to see. It's real easy, it's a very old one. It's Tucker Gregory at aol dot com. Anyone that wants to reach out, just brief sentence or two, and please give me your good phone number, your cell number, and either Charles or I or both of us will give you a call and talk fantastic. And one other thing that Charles and I have talked about. We've both done a lot of research. And one of the oldest accounts of sasquatch comes from Lucretius Chorus, the first century Roman poet and philosopher, and he wrote a book on the nature of things and gave descriptions. At that time, they called them wildman, and they talk about them having strong bodies covered with hair in caves, and forest did not wear clothing, eight raw meat. A lot of the things that we hear today, And something many folks may not be aware of. The US Library of Congress had formed a partnership with the National Endowment for the Humanities to create the National Digital Newspaper Program. So right now you can go to the US Library of Congress for free, and you can research these old newspapers by state. And this endeavor is every published newspaper ever they are scanning it.

1:00:34 And may not only are they scanning it, they're using text recognition in the scan so that you as a user when you log in, you can pull up the state of Kentucky and you can type wildman and it will search every newspaper article it has for that term of wildman. Big for society will be right back after these messages. What looked what led me this? A few years back I purchased the book Bigfoot, Wildman and Giant Skeletons by David Polaides of Missing four one one and he had three And that book contains three hundred and seventy five pages of newspaper articles from all across this country, detailing the location, the dates and encounters and in some cases the capture of sasquatch creatures. And his date range was from sixteen eighty to nineteen twenty two. Here he got three hundred and seventy five pages. And at the time the research was done for his book, it was much harder.

1:01:44 It was done on microfish. So with this Library of Congress and the National Endowment for the Humanities. This is a much eager project. And this may interest some of your folks or not. But what Charles and I had talked about, what if we got a group of people together and with this program, and with the emergence of artificial intelligence to write AI agents to search these archives pull all this information out. Because the research I've done, wildman, particularly in the eighteen hundreds was used to describe politicians a derogatory term. They're out no longer they're wanting to do something left winging or something. You'll call them wildman.

1:02:27 But have a group of people working on this, so everything that's extracted, it could be every newspaper article could be read three times and validated that, yeah, this is truly a wild man. They reference it doing this, being covered in hair whatever. And then one of my favorite websites is what's the gentleman's name that has bigfootmap dot com? Scott Tompkins is that it. Is Scott Tompkins. Imagine maybe partnering with Scott or working with Scott to do a map of every newspaper article in this country from the sixteen seventeen, eighteen hundreds on a Bigfoot map on a map like he does for recounters and sightings.

1:03:13 And this would really, I think, help move the needle forward because I get the skeptics. I understand it. You have to be skeptical. You can't lose your credility. You've got to be protective. But just I found one hundred articles in searching the Library of Congress that's not in Bigfoot, wild Men and giant skeletons. That's just me doing it part time. Imagine AI agents, a group of people coming together to review in a website put out for free for everyone to use, like Scott done. That's going to be huge. That's really going to tip the balance. And if that worked out, well, if that ever came to fruition, there's Europe. Europe could do the same because research European archives and the Bigfoot descriptions of eighteen hundreds in America also in Europe. But yeah, anyway, so that was just some of the thoughts that Charles talked about on those trips down in the sea and back. But brainstorming. But if anyone wants to contact me there it is Tucker Gregory dol dot com. And like I said, either Charles or myself or both of us will get back with you.

1:04:27 And one other thing we would like to mention. We still have equipment at the Paul property, but we want to see some newer technology leverage there, and we're probably looking to find places in central Kentucky or south central Kentucky southeastern Kentucky to do the same type of work in our area closer to us that we've done at mister Paul's property. So, if any of your listeners out there have any craziness going on, or have any aggressive sasquatch on your property, the more aggressive the better because aggressive sasquatch make mistakes, and when they make mistakes, we're able to document it more easily.

1:05:10 Absolutely, I would want to put another word in is if you're a listener and you do want to become involved, I would use the right do things the right way, and reach out to Greg and Charles. At the last episode, I had to talk a few people out of just showing up, and that is not the right thing to do. When you have a situation like Mark's property where things are just working perfectly and you've got sasquatch there, we want to make sure that things continue to run there and we want people to help out and become involved in different ways. But please reach out directly using this email to talk to Greg or Charles. I think that would be the great way to start that. People are wanting to what you could say.

1:06:02 That like on the first trip down there. That's the reason just Greg went, we didn't want to send two people down. We don't want to mess anything up. We just want to see what's there. Ben them on footprint Low Footprint, and also any other researchers in central Kentucky. We enjoy meeting other folks and getting out with them. Send me an email if you want to go squatching sometime. And I want to cover this. A lot of people are always why don't hunters get them on their trail cans. That once again gets back to if there was a red light when your bedroom half quick with that stick out and number two, people have got lazy. They'll only deer hunt where they can park their four wheeler right beside the tree or something. No hunter is going to walk two and a half miles back in the woods shoot a deer and then have to manually carry it out bigfoot. They stay a little further away than what most people are willing to walk. A good example back twenty years ago, I was done survey and work up in Jackson County. Older man he was right at ninety years old, had a seven or eight hundred acre farm, mountain farm, and somebody on the back side of him had logged theirs and had accidentally logged onto his and it came out. So we had to go in and survey and get a shot on all the stones to

1:07:33 show what trees they had moved removed walnut or inkrey or whatever. And about halfway through his farm we ran into a cliff wall that ran all the way across. You just couldn't get down except for one spot, and that was on the far end. And we found it because we followed a deer trail. Think the deer will know how to get down there. And we get down in the bottom there and it was probably the back hundred fifty acres of the farm. And there was a church back there, no sign of a gravel road, no, just a church had all the windows in it and the door was open. Bibles are still on the pew and in the back of the pews I think one window was broke out and the door was open, trees had grown up right next to it and everything, and that was actually on this man's farm, and he had grown up on that farm his whole life. He was actually born in the house he was living in at the front. And when he asked, what did you find out, we were like, your property goes back about two or three hundred feet past the old church back there, and he said what church. He had lived on this piece of property for ninety years, grew up as an eight year old, a twelve year old, a fifteen year old, a twenty year old, even when he was an adult at Deer Honey, he had never took it upon himself to find a way down that clip face to say.

1:09:05 That there was a church on his own property. If you can have a church on your own property, how hard would it be for a big foot to had on mare? Absolutely? Oh wow, a church on his property that he had never seen in his life. That's crazy. That just tells you out there, that's something that wanted to hide from you could hide from you pretty easy. No, it's a great example. But you know, Greg and Charles, I just want to say thank you for taking a few hours hanging out and just showing what you have captured there at the Mark Paul property over the last few months. I appreciate you guys coming in and I hope that you are able to keep in touch with if you're able to get more evidence out of this property, and maybe we'll have to have you back on in the future to provide an update or two about what's going on with your research.

1:10:07 Yeah sounds great. Yeah, Thank you very much, Jeremiah, and thank you to your audience and all the other guests that you've had on your show. Special thank you to Gregory Tucker and Charles McLeod for coming on the show to share what they've discovered evidence wise over at the Paul property. And a special thank you to mister Mark Paul himself for being an instrumental part in the current and future search for Sasquatch by allowing his property to be part of that research. Thank you. Mark. Just wanted to take a few minutes to say thank you to you all with listeners for listening to the podcast.

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