Brian King-Sharp from Sasquatch Odyssey, Squatch Con, Standing and Incredible Encounters

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I finished up the show and had
a good interview. I was writing down

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some show notes and things before I
went to bed, and we hear probably

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forty yards maybe fifty yards in the
woods from the house, like Ohio Howell,

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Tight Howell, and it sort of
ends with like a bark on the

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end, and it was super loud
to the point where I felt it and

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it was enough to scare the shit
out of it. I was my kidness

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too, like what it was?
Literally? What was that? I don't

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know what was that? Do you
hear that? Yes? I heard that.

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I'm not I'm not going out.
I'm not going out. And that's

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what people asked me that did you
go out and check? No? I

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did not. I did not.
I did not want to see what it

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was. I didn't want to get
any closer to than we already were.

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On this episode of big Foot Society, I'll be talking to brain King Sharp

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from Sasquatch Odyssey. We'll be discussing
some interesting bigfoot encounters, Squatch con coming

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up in Idaho, and Brian headed
up to calling an expedition with mister Todd's

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All right, let's get into this
show, all right, Big Faciety.

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I've got the privilege of talking to
mister Brian king Sharp tonight from Sasquatch Odyssey.

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How's it going, Brian? I'm
good, Jared Mohi, how are

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you, man, dude, I'm
doing good. I'm excited to finally get

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to chat with you on my show. How are things going on over there

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on the You're on the East coast
right, I am. I'm in North

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Carolina. It's been really stormy today. I was glad that the storms moved

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out because I've had to cancel a
couple of interviews over the last i don't

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know a couple of months when we
had these really bad storms come through.

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But luckily the skies parted. They
knew I was going to talk to you

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tonight. So it's like, he
can't be reading to your Bigfoot Society,

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so Ran, I've never heard your
how you got into big Footing shared me,

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like, what was it that got
you into the big Foot gang.

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It's so weird because I feel like
I've always kind of been in it because

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I grew up in the North Georgia
Mountains as a kid, and I just

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it was part of the culture there. You know. It wasn't something that

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you just sat around and talked about
at the dinner table. But we lived

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in a very rural, poor area. I grew up very poor, so

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you know, there was a lot
of jen Sing hunters and people out doing

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whatever they could to survive. And
I remember distinctly hearing some of the Jensing

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hunters stories that came down off of
Lookout Mountain in the North Georgia area in

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northern Alabama, right on the border
there with Georgia. And I remember one

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story in particular that stuck out to
me for years was a couple of Gensing

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hunters. They ran down the mountain, basically rolled down this mountain. They

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came down, beat up, bruised, added and they kept saying that something

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chased him off the mountain and they
I think they called it a wild man

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or a hairy man or something.
And of course I was, you know,

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maybe ten when I heard the story
for the first time, I had

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no idea what it was. But
now in retrospect, I figure out that

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it was probably Bigfoot that they were
talking about, that they had an encounter

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with on the mountain. And I
do some stories. I call it story

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time on my show. I read
some encounter stories and we even got a

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whole series going now that on dog
Man. Right. So I was starting,

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I was searching for stories and a
lady over in the UK actually put

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together a huge database. I don't
know if you're familiar with Deborah hats Well,

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but she does the Yes, she
get us out to me yep ye

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Zebra is awesome. So I've had
her on the show a couple of times,

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but she has amassed this database and
she has a it's an interactive map

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basically of every cryptid encounter you could
possibly imagine. And she shared it with

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me and she's like, pick it, whatever story you want, read it

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off there, you know. And
I was looking in Georgia one day and

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low and behold, I started searching
in on this map in that area of

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Georgia and I found a story from
like I guess it was the late seventies,

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maybe early eighties of these gen sing
hunters that told their story. It's

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a very short encounter, but it
was the one that I grew up hearing

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through word of mouth as a kid. So it was really cool to have

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that come full circle as a podcaster
now that deals in bigfoot encounters really and

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to hear one and see it validated
in writing on a database that it actually

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got reported to somebody, and somebody
took the time to actually document their encounter.

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So but you know that ending,
you know, experience aces as a

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child that I sort of attribute to
what could possibly be bigfoot when I was

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like twelve years old. So you
know, I feel like I've always had

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well, I know, I've always
had an interest in it, but I

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really didn't get into it until I
got out of law enforcement and I could

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actually sort of pursue that kind of
line of inquiry, if you will,

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because as a cop, you don't
talk about that stuff, right, I've

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plenty of times on the show,
and you know, you talked to plenty

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of police officers. You just don't
talk about that at work, you know.

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So once I left that in twenty
sixteen, I was really able to

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sort of pursue that interest and that
culminated and starting the show and like February

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of twenty twenty one, that is
that is just fascinating, what a fascinating

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area to grow up. And then
was that the same area where like the

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Expedition big Foot Museum is like that
area of North Georgia, or it's similar

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to that. I would probably say, as the crow flies, I was

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probably I grew up in like the
Summerville and Rome area that's in Blue Ridge

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Show. It's probably a couple of
hours drive, maybe an hour and a

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half drive from that area. But
saying general, if you looked at a

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topo map and just erased the names
of the area, it would look almost

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identical to the area where that big
Foot Museum is. And I've been there

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a couple of times. It's a
great place. Oh it's on It's on

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my list of big Foot museums to
go to. It's a really cool place.

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Man. We filmed I'd been there
a couple of times, and we

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did a vice show a couple of
years ago, I think towards the end

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of twenty twenty one. They followed
They followed us around for about ten days

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and filmed and they were sort of
highlighting the show and me and what I

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was doing. And part of the
thing we did was travel from North Carolina

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here on our property too, the
big Foot Museum when we filmed there for

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a couple of days, and they
were super nice people. They allowed me

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full carte blanche access. I got
to interview people on the spot in the

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Yeah, it was a really cool
experience, really great people. Did that.

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Actually did that air on Spike or
on Vice? It did? Okay,

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what was your name of that?
It was, the name of the

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series was in my own world,
and I think I was episode seven.

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It was called Bigfoot Hunters of All
Things. Man, I gotta check that

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out. That sounds great, man. I love that sort of stuff,

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Brian. I would I would hope
that most of my listeners already know as

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Sasquatch Odyssey is, because if you
like big society, you're really gonna like

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Sasquatch Odyssey and vice versa. But
for the people that haven't heard of Sasquatch

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Odyssey yet, do you mind,
Sharon, what's your elevator pitch for what

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Sasquatchy is? How it came about, all that good stuff, How it

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came about is a little longer than
elevator pitch, but the elevator pitch for

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the show really is it's very similar
to you the Bigfoot Society in that I

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wanted to create a space where people
could come on and share their encounter experiences

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and not feel crazy. That's it
in a nutshell, right, because when

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I really got into the subject,
that's the one thing I really wanted to

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do was talk to people who had
had experiences and had encounters. And it

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started, and it was born out
of me doing it in the Southeastern United

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States because I talked to people,
and I've talked to people since I've interviewed

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Peter Burrn on the show and we
got into a little argument because you didn't

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think bigfoot has ever existed east of
the Rockies, and I'm like, well,

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I've talked to tons of people that
would disagree with you, Peter,

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but that's neither here nor there.
But I really wanted to document as many

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cases as I could in Georgia,
Tennessee, Alabama, North Carolina, South

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Carolina, all the places that I've
been and grown up in just the south

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Southeastern United States in general. So
that's kind of what the show was for

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me. As I wanted to document
those cases. So that's how it started.

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The very first episode of the show
ever was a roadside crossing encounter with

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a guy named Cale here in North
Carolina, and very much like, I

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think you've been a lot better in
this business than I started, because I've

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listened to some of your old,
older shows and they're much better quality than

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mine when I started. Well as
you didn't listen far enough back, but

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thanks Brian. I was literally I
was literally recording the show on my cell

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phone on this free app called rev. I was too an anchor. Dude,

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that's okay, so we get it. We are brothers, man,

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we are brothers. Go ahead,
So yeah, that's that was the thing.

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I recorded his interview, and I
was fascinated some of the things that

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he told. You know, he
was a couple of hours. He's about

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three hours from me here in North
Carolina, and just that in and of

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itself, the roadside crossing thing has
sort of become this thing for me on

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the show because you hear that all
the time. These are such elusive creatures

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there. You know, people go
out and look for them for fifty years

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and they never have an encounter.
They never see a footprint. But yet

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somebody's driving to work in a parius
and they almost smack one of them crossing

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the road at least two times a
month. You know. So that was

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sort of the beginning of how I'd
say, the beginning of the end for

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me. I just went down the
rabbit hole because I was I was hooked

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at that poll, and when I
talked to him, I was like,

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I've got to do something with the
story. I can't be the only one

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who hears this story. So it's
like, I'm going to start a podcast.

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You know, I don't know if
anybody will listen, but I'm going

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to start a podcast and putting these
out there and let people hear these stories

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from North Carolina, South Carolina,
Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia. So that's

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what I did, and one episode
turned into five, turned into ten,

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and you know, luckily through the
universe was looking out for me. You

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know West Grammer from Sasquatch Chronicles,
you know, about three months into the

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show, he reached out and said, hey, man, I like your

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show. I'll listen to your show, but your audio sucks. It's leg's

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awesome, nough. Let me help
you with your audio and I'm like,

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ohly crap, you know what I'm
I gonna say no, of course.

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So he called me up and we
spent a couple hours on the phone talking

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and he gave me some ideas,
and I'm writing a list down of things

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that I should order, boards that
I should get to record the show,

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and microphones and all this stuff.
And you know, a couple of weeks

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later, I had everything in and
I remember I set the board up and

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I was a lost ball in highways. Dude, I had no idea what

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I was doing. So I sent
him a text and I was like,

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I need some help. So we
hopped on FaceTime and he spent like forty

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five minutes helping me dial my board
in, and it literally changed the show

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overnight, the audio quality. And
it still had some issues. We still.

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You know, every day you improved, you figure out a new way

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to do something, and you work
constantly honing your craft. But literally overnight

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it changed the show. And I've
had to go back and remaster some of

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those earlier episodes because there were such
good quality content that was just crap audio.

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So now I have the software and
I have the ability to go back

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and remaster those shows. And sort
of give them new life and rerelease them

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and people have you know, I've
gotten a couple of Apple reviews lately.

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That's just like cold crap. I'm
so glad you did that because I got

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to hear the story in a whole
new way. So like the episode I

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did, episode nine, I had
Jeff Mildren on the show, and it

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was horrible. I mean the audio. I overcompressed it when I was when

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I was editing it, it was
just it was horrible. I just remastered

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that a couple of weeks, maybe
a month or so back, and it's

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it's now listenable, So you guys
can go back and listen to doctor Jeff

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Mildren. He was one of the
first episodes I did on the show,

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and I'm still working my way through
that. So so one, that's amazing

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how how West stepped stepped out and
said, hey, I'm going to help

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this dude. What I love is
when people in the community, even though

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they're doing the same thing, they're
helping each other out. For example,

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you know, I'm gonna shout you
out real quick, and we won't get

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into super specifics, but you know, when after I was on your show

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last time, we had a very
intense thirty minute conversation or so that that

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was so encouraging to me and put
me on the right track to one day

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doing this full time and giving me
the hope to do it. So I

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just want to say thank you Brian
for taking the time to, i mean,

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really change the course of what I'm
doing here. So that was just

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really really a life changing chat we
had. For sure, I believe in

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karma, man. Yeah, karmway, that's I've always said that no matter

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what. And I help a ton
of people behind the scenes with the shows

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because I love doing that. But
if you get to the point where you

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have the ability to help other people, like West. West didn't have to

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do that for me. He could. He could have just said that's just

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another podcast or whatever, and for
whatever reason he chose to do that,

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it changed my world. It really
did, and I've been forever grateful for

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that. And if I ever have
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him, I believe if I ever
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to pay this forward, I'm going
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Because you know, some people think
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complete opposite. Everybody who succeeds at
doing what I do just makes my life

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better and it makes the world better
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to go for information. And that's
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was getting the encounters out there,
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them make up their own So I
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you are involved with something cool that's
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I would love you to share about
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cool thing that you guys are putting
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convention that's coming up soon. Yeah, that sort of just fell in my

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lap. I had Brandon Squat Brandon
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months and months ago and we were
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and he had had some encounters,
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He came on the show, shared
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high energy. I just immediately was
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and he was really looking forward to
putting together a Bigfoot conference in Idaho and

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he reached out to me. We
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running with it. And the next
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and he says, Hey, I've
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coming out. Cliff Bragman's coming out. I'd love to have you on the

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panel. Would you come out and
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sure, Man, absolutely, let's
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been trying, for those that do
listen to my show, you know,

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I've been chasing my tale and hurting
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been trying to do a round table
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of this Freeman footage from nineteen ninety
two. So I'm sure most people who

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listen to your show are very educated
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job with that, Jeremiah. But
for those that don't know what the Freeman

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footage is all about, it's basically
Paul Freeman. He was a pretty prolific

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big foot investigator back in the late
eighties early nineties. He's through the two

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thousand drily before he passed away,
and he's a kind of a controversial figure

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in Bigfoot. As I dug into
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sort of figured this out because if
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the species, the Patterson Gimblin film
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and normally it's the Freeman footage right
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it's a pretty big deal. But
in a nutshell, this guy's basically outdoing

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his thing and he films what looks
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and everybody famously the famous line that
most people recognize, zoh where he

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goes? Yeah? Right. So
it's very grainy. I mean it was

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on eight millimeter video in nineteen ninety
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enough to put your mind back in
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video looks like back, then that's
where you're going to get with the Freeman

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footage. So almost immediately after this
footage came out, Doug Hicheck started looking

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at it, he started digging into
it, and he was working his tail

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off to try to enhance this footage
because in part of the footage, and

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Doug just talking about this on Saturday
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the footage carefully, you hear Paul
say at one time, oh, there's

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more than one of them. So
he can see with his naked eye that

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there's more than one of these creatures
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in the film. So that was
just digging into Doug's skin. If you

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know Doug well enough to do,
he's going to start digging and he's not

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going to stop until he gets what
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and he worked on this for basically
twenty years. You eventually had to

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go to the government, to the
military to get some software to really enhance

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this footage, do the nine interlacing, and make it so he could actually

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see what he was wanting to see
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discovery of what's now famously called the
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big Foot that's in the footage.
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and done some work to get it
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Doug ass. But recently, within
the last year, Michael Freeman Paul Freeman

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Son wrote the book the Freeman Files, and as a part of that,

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you got to see this footage along
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of idio that Paul recorded over the
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that's all a part of the book
as well. But what I was going

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to do or wanted to do,
I reached out to Michael, or reached

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out to Doug, and I said, hey, I'd like to get you

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know, Cliff Barrittman was on board. Cliff was going to come back on

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the show. I was going to
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was going to get Rush Jones,
doctor Rush Jones on, and we're going

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to kind of release some of the
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round tape. But just like you
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here, it is almost impossible to
get a lot of schedules lined up,

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and you're talking five or so people. With that kind of schedule, it's

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been really tough. Every time I'd
send out an email, I'd shoot people

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text messages and say, hey,
I've got these five days lined up over

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the next week, can you guys
make it? There was always somebody,

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you know, it was Michael saying
oh, I can't do it, or

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Cliff's like, I'll sorry, I'll
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a light bulb went off in my
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said, hey, I'm going to
have doctor Jeff Meldrum's going to be there,

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Cliff Berretman's going to be there,
You're going to be there. They

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can Okay, Well, what two
better people to have a conversation with about

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the Freeman footage than those two.
Let's reach out to Michael Freeman. So

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I shot him a text and said, hey, man, this thing's coming

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up, and you think you'd be
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his schedule. Okay, boom,
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Michael coming. So then I reached
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man, can you come? And
he's like, unfortunately, I will be,

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you know, fifty five miles deep
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hey, why don't I send Alec
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crew from Legend Meet Science too to
film the thing. And so I won't

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be there, but I'll send those
guys and I'm like, okay, well

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that'll work. So so yeah,
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And then I had another idea.
I said to Brandon, this is kind

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of historic, dude, Like,
very few people have ever seen this non

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interlaced, enhanced, slowed down version
of this film. That's so crystal queer.

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Why don't we work with Doug and
Alex and those guys, and why

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don't we figure out if there's a
way to make this conference available virtue,

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Like if people want to attend virtually, they can get a link and they

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can see the video, they can
hear us break it down, they can

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hear us talk about it, they
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they won't have to travel to Idaho. It's like two thousand miles from me,

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so I know it's a it's a
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to get there, right, And
He's like, that's a brilliant idea.

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So we got with Doug, Alex
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you know, the fantastic So anything
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get it done. And we just
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Brandon on Saturday. I just released
it. The show came out yesterday,

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but we sort of rolled out the
announcement. Doug put together a cool like

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intro. It's about a minute long. This sort of describes what's happening.

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It's kind of a trailer, if
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So that was a really long answer
to say, it's a really cool conference

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if you could be there in person. We obviously want you to be there

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in person, but if you can't, you have the ability to see it

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virtually, and all you got to
do is go on and Doug has different

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packages. It's Hanger one Publishing dot
com. You can go over there and

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it's right there on the homepage,
and I think the lowest package is nineteen

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ninety five, So you can literally
be a part of this for less than

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twenty bucks. See the footage,
be a part of the round table,

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and really, in my opinion,
be a part of history. I'm shocked

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that more people aren't talking about what's
going on with the Freeman footage, the

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enhancements, and so hopefully we'll stir
up a little interest and if people are

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interested in it, they can attend
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it's ever been done, honestly,
no, they've probably done some virtual conferences

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I think you're actually involved in one
that's coming up that I saw something about

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online recently. But yes, it's
like am I, yes, I am.

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I do my homework here, Yeah, thank you. Yeah, No,

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I'm Ryan Sprague is putting that on
and now I'm a con it's gonna

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be a good one. Yeah,
I'm excited. But as far as Bigfoot,

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I've never seen it done. I've
been to a couple of conferences,

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I've attended a couple of conferences,
I've spoken into a couple of conferences already

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this year, and I've not seen
anybody that's done anything virtual like that that

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allows people to actually be a part
of what the speakers are doing on stage

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in real time. Then I'm aware
of I could be all. I mean,

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it raises the bar for imagine if
all big Foot conferences like in you

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know, the Ohio big the big
guys like, if they could do the

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same thing, it'd be in fantastic. I mean for the cost of such

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a low costly nineteen ninety nine,
I mean, it's a no brainer that

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you want to be involved with seeing
what's going on. So is this going

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to be the best ever footage of
the freemen footage then like, this is

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the best you're ever going to see
it? Oh, hands down, there's

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no way it's ever going to get
any better. It is. It is

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phenomenal. The first time I saw
it, Michael send it to me after

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I had him on the show,
and I pulled it up on my computer

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and my jaw dropped because it's it's
so streak and clear. There's no even

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to this day when I watched the
Patty Fair and I've recently changed my opinion

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on that too, So we can
talk a little bit about that if you

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want. But I've seen that so
many times and I still there's this little

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tickle in the back goes, Oh, I'm just not a hundred percent there.

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But after I had the conversation with
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of the film, I was one
percent convinced. You're not going to convince

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me otherwise that that's not a sasquatch
and that's not a baby that it's picking

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up off that tree, just not
going to apple. Wow. Don't you

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get a copy of the Freeman big
Foot Files. That's one of the tiers

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with this as well. Yes you
get an e book, Yes you get

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the book with everything so you can
literally read the book and look in and

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see what Paul was doing in his
research, and you could hear things in

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his own words. You can hear
him talking his audio diary as there,

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and it's amazing. I mean,
the book itself is like seventy bucks if

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you buy it by itself, but
as a part of one of the tiers

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that you can attend this conference,
virtually you can get a copy of the

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e book and get access to all
of that in perpetuity forever. It's yours.

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So when I was reading through that
and listening to everything before I add

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Michael Freeman on Big Faciety of Ale. While back, I just remember listening

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to all the Paul Freeman audio clips
and it's like you're literally listening to the

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Paul Freeman podcast. Is pretty much
what it is, and it is,

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but you really get to know how
he is as like what his character is.

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It's it's fascinating, like people you
know, watch the conference live.

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Also you get the book, and
the book is so worth reading. Michael

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did a great great job with that. So I'm excited that you guys are

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putting this together, that the High
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You know, the tech wizard stuff
very very cool. You're such a busy

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guy, Brian. You've got a
lot of really cool stuff, and I

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appreciate that because you've gotten to the
point where, like you, you're doing

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some cool, cool stuff and it's
very inspiring. But another one, another

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thing I want to hear from you
is you are taking a trip soon enough

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where you are headed up to a
special place with a particular gentleman. And

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I'm going to let you just present
it the way that you would like,

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because it's a I think it's a
very fascinating story. Yeah, it's another

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thing that sort of I won't say
that fell in my lap. That was

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more of a long time coming.
And I had the opportunity to take this

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trip last year and I just couldn't
make it work with my schedule. But

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the opportunity presented itself again and I
am going up to BC Canada to the

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Radium area on an expedition with Todd
Standing in October. And I say that

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was a longer. It took a
lot longer to get to that point because

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it took me probably a year to
get tired on my show. And I

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would say the reason for that is
is because I called him a hoax or

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for about a year before I kind
of him on the show, and yeah,

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I've had I have strong opinions about
his videos that he presents as evidence,

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you know, in his documentary,
on his YouTube channel and wherever he

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puts those out there, you know. And it really took getting Survivor man

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Less Strout on the show, I
think, to persuade Todd to come on

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the show, because I don't know, it's probably two weeks after I had

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Less on the show than Todd was
like, Okay, I'll come on your

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show. Because we talked about him
for thirty minutes, you know, and

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had to really in depth conversation because
it was the closest thing I could get

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because Less has been out with Todd, you know, he spent weeks in

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the woods with him, and I
wanted to get Less as perspective because I

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respect for us. I think he's
a very honest guy and I knew he

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00:27:19.680 --> 00:27:23.200
wasn't bit a bsment when I asked
him these tough questions, so I did,

408
00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:26.680
and he was more it's not about
Todd as a person. I've never

409
00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:32.279
I've never wanted it to be about
Todd as a person. It's about Todd's

410
00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:36.400
evidence and what he presents is it. So that's where we kept it.

411
00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:40.519
And I asked Less, I said, what were your concerns about the videos?

412
00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:41.839
And he was honest, he said, look, dude, I held

413
00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:45.359
the cards in my hand, I
held the video, you know, the

414
00:27:45.640 --> 00:27:51.640
medium in my hand, and the
videos are real. I don't see anything

415
00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:55.720
as far as you know, me
being able to point out this is fake.

416
00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:59.480
And this is why he said.
My concern was where's the b row,

417
00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:03.480
here's the leading up to, and
where's the after? Than it has

418
00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:06.839
right, And so I was like, we got into that on the show,

419
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:08.359
and he's like, you know,
that's the one thing that I've called

420
00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:12.240
him out four And of course Todd
has these answers, and Less sort of

421
00:28:12.279 --> 00:28:17.599
went through that on the show.
I think Less was episode sixty eight of

422
00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:19.720
my show, which anybody wants to
go back and listen to that The remastered

423
00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:22.599
version has come out in the last
month or show. But if you look

424
00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:27.480
for Less Trial you'll find the episode. But so we get into that and

425
00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:32.079
Less is like, you know,
that was the only thing because it's it's

426
00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:34.759
the typical thing, right if you
look at any bigfoot video online you call

427
00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:40.000
onto YouTube and it's just boom,
somebody's filming trees and then all of a

428
00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:42.240
sudden, something walks out. Where's
the backstory? Why were you there?

429
00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:45.640
Why were you filming the tree?
Why were you having the camera pointed in

430
00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:48.680
that direction? Right? Where's the
footage that led up to that? Did

431
00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:52.359
you walk up for thirty minutes?
And then you know that kind of stuff.

432
00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:55.160
So that was the one thing that
really stuck out to Less and he

433
00:28:55.279 --> 00:28:59.319
really never got answers as far as
the wine. You know, there was

434
00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:02.000
always well, this happened, the
camera won't did, or this happened it

435
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:07.960
that happened, but it was never
really any real explanation, so you know,

436
00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:10.759
it didn't really change my opinion.
And then once Todd came on the

437
00:29:10.759 --> 00:29:11.960
show, you know, I asked
him some tough questions about it, and

438
00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:17.359
he'd defended himself, you know,
to his credit, he came on the

439
00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:19.799
show no one want to expect.
He was coming into an environment with a

440
00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:22.480
guy who had called him my hopes
for for a year, and we had

441
00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:29.400
a very amicable conversation. And it
wasn't we didn't always agree on everything.

442
00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:33.480
We short of agreed to disagree,
but at the end of that conversation,

443
00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:37.000
I had a better respect or a
new respect for Todd the man. He's

444
00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:40.880
not a bad guy. You know, he was talked afterwards. We've had

445
00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:44.200
conversations. He's got a couple of
my videos of letting you some of my

446
00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:48.440
interviews on his YouTube channel. You
know. So I just have a problem

447
00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:53.279
with what's happening as far as lu
Evidence has consulting. So and he basically

448
00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:56.400
invited me that bad point and he's
like, look, come up here,

449
00:29:56.519 --> 00:29:59.599
let me prove it to you.
But your money where you out this?

450
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:02.799
You know, come up glider on
an expedition. I'll take you out.

451
00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:06.640
It never guarantees that you're going to
see a sasquatch, but you know,

452
00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:08.720
he's like, just come on out
and you'll see this the real deal.

453
00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:11.799
So that's what I'm doing in October. Man, I'm going to put my

454
00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:15.279
money where my mouth is and go
up and take the trip. And you

455
00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:18.640
know, I've said it before,
I wish those things were real. I

456
00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:23.559
wish that those were real big Foot. I don't think that Todd hasn't had

457
00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:30.000
experiences. I think he has had
experiences and probably continues to have some sort

458
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:33.279
of experiences I've interviewed several people who
have been on expeditions with and who have

459
00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:40.720
seen a sasquatch and or had some
really intense experiences, and who knows.

460
00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:44.039
You know, I'm going in with
an open mind, but I'm going in

461
00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:48.039
with the blinders off, and I'm
not going to be an easy customer.

462
00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:52.319
Let's just put it that, you
know, I'm gonna go in respectfully and

463
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:56.319
see what happens. So, Brian, what kind of equipment are you bringing

464
00:30:56.400 --> 00:31:02.039
up there for tech documentation? First
and foremost, I am looking into a

465
00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:04.359
brand new camera. I do not
have a great camera. I'm liking most

466
00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:08.400
people. My only camera has been
my iPhone for years, but I wanted

467
00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:12.119
a really good camera because I'd like
to do some on site interviews, so

468
00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:17.000
i want really good quality video.
So I'm getting a camera that'll shoot h

469
00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:21.599
D quality video, high quality audio, and really good pictures with a decent

470
00:31:21.720 --> 00:31:26.359
zoom because I'm anticipating that i may
be taking some long range photos. So

471
00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:30.039
I'm investing about five hundred bucks into
a camera. And I'm also going to

472
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:36.039
invest in some really good audio reporters
because I want to have those on hand.

473
00:31:36.440 --> 00:31:38.640
I'm planning on having an audio reporter, going twenty four hours a day,

474
00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:41.680
seven days a week. I found
a couple of models through some good

475
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:45.640
friends of mine, and some listeners
of the show have reached out and done

476
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:49.160
some recommendations. So I think I
found a sony that records for like fifty

477
00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:53.200
hours straight on one battery. So
I'm really excited about that. If I

478
00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:56.599
can take enough batteries up there and
keep that going for I'm going to be

479
00:31:56.640 --> 00:32:00.279
there for like seven days, So
it's gonna be a lot of audio.

480
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:01.599
It's going to be a ton of
stuff to go through when I get back,

481
00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:05.880
But I think it's gonna be worth
it because I'm going to have it

482
00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:07.279
go on twenty four seven. Then
you know, like I said, I

483
00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:10.720
like to do some on scene,
you know, interviews maybe with Kyle maybe

484
00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:15.359
it was odd, and then of
course we'll probably do a deep reach and

485
00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:17.759
have them both back on the show
once we get back to talk about what

486
00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:22.480
happens, what doesn't happen, and
what all that good stuff. Absolutely that

487
00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:29.480
sounds that sounds like it's going to
be a fascinating journey. What kind of

488
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:36.359
evidence would it take up there for
you to at the end to be like,

489
00:32:36.799 --> 00:32:40.519
okay, there's bigfoot here. I
experienced some saying it's legit, like

490
00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:44.799
what would what would it take?
That's a good question, man, I

491
00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:49.880
don't know outside of actually having a
visual I mean seeing one. That's the

492
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:52.680
other thing. I'm taking binoculars.
I have a brand new pair of binoculars

493
00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:54.720
that was going wop me as well. So, you know, outside of

494
00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:59.480
seeing one, I really don't know
what to say, man, because I

495
00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:01.480
have found so many things here on
my property. I found a footprint like

496
00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:07.359
three weeks ago, and it's you
know, the first thing that I go

497
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:09.519
to is Okham's razor. It's not
a footprant, it's paradouelia, it's something

498
00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:13.000
else. It just looks like a
foot crank. You know, I'm still

499
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:15.960
questioning my own stuff. You know. I just boasted a bunch of pictures

500
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:22.359
from yesterday. I did a hike. Yeah that yesterday, Sunday. Yeah,

501
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:25.680
Sunday, we did. I I
found a bunch of really weird tree

502
00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:30.920
breaks. Another one looks like a
nest site, and there's like a I

503
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:37.559
don't know, probably a three hundred
pound seedar log that's balanced in between two

504
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:42.359
trees about ten seed up. And
a weird area where there's a pine tree

505
00:33:42.519 --> 00:33:46.240
stuck into what looks like a dn
on the side of a mound. It's

506
00:33:46.279 --> 00:33:50.160
just really weird stuff. You can
you can see the pictures on the task

507
00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:52.279
Watch Odyssey Instagram, and I think
I did it on TikTok as well,

508
00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:57.519
but just really weird stuff. So
I find that kind of stuff here and

509
00:33:57.640 --> 00:34:00.480
I just sort of brush it off, you know. I said the picture

510
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:02.880
of the footprint or what looks like
a footprint to Doug. I texted it

511
00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:06.960
to him and I'm like, tell
me, I'm not crazy, dude,

512
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:08.400
like this looks like a footprint,
right, And he's like, it looks

513
00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:12.079
like a handprint and movie he's sort
of pointing out where it looks like maybe

514
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:14.880
a thumb, and I'm like,
I don't know. It's just such a

515
00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:19.480
slippery slope with all of that stuff. So unless I saw what made the

516
00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:22.199
footprint, if I didn't see a
sasquatch stepping into the creek where I found

517
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:25.199
the footprint, I'm never going to
defended him and say it was from a

518
00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:29.719
sasquatch. So I think it would
take me seeing and I've said, you

519
00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:31.000
know, people have asked me that
question. Yeah, I was on Pine

520
00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:35.519
Island research as a guest earlier in
a couple of weeks ago with Jeff,

521
00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:38.480
maybe a week ago, and it's
like I told him, you know,

522
00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:44.639
even if I'm up there in the
camp and Sasquatch comes in and sits down

523
00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:47.280
and has a cup of coffee at
breakfast, it's not going to change my

524
00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:52.639
opinion about what's happened with the videos
and the evidence in the pass. Now,

525
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:54.519
of course I would say, had
a cup of coffee with a sasquatch

526
00:34:54.679 --> 00:35:00.360
maybe, but unless it looked exactly
like one of the one that was in

527
00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:04.480
the video, and I knew people
grill sasquatch, it's not going to change

528
00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:07.159
my opinion of the evidence that we've
seen over the last ten years. But

529
00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:10.840
then I would come back and absolutely
so, yes there's activity there because I

530
00:35:10.920 --> 00:35:14.519
saw so. I think that's what
it would take from me is I would

531
00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:19.480
actually have to be able to see
one and then know that that was real.

532
00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:22.760
And that isn't me laughing at Todd. That's just me laughing at a

533
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:29.079
visual I had in my head that
was so ridiculously funny. But man,

534
00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:32.960
I am excited to hear what happens
from your journey up there, your future

535
00:35:34.039 --> 00:35:39.000
journey that's going to be great,
you know the cool thing. You know,

536
00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:44.400
I love talking to people on Big
Pacide. I know you love talking

537
00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:50.719
to witnesses as well. Is there
a certain interview that sticks out in your

538
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:57.159
mind that you're like, man if
Sasquatch Odyssey could only be one episode and

539
00:35:57.320 --> 00:36:01.000
listeners could only listen to one,
like this is the one? Is there

540
00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:06.599
something something that sticks out in your
mind? Yeah, there's probably a couple.

541
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:12.440
Okay, I think honestly it sounds
kind of cheesy, but I would

542
00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:15.960
say the less Stroud interview was probably
one of my favorite interviews ever, just

543
00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:22.360
because of the person that he is
and just the genuine honesty that he exudes

544
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:25.239
about everything in his life. You
know, he's had a fascinating life way

545
00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:29.079
outside of Bigfoot. With his show, the way that happened, I mean,

546
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:32.320
he created a genre that we enjoy
to this day, you know,

547
00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:37.840
with this sort of lost you know, in the Woods, Naked and Afraid

548
00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:42.639
Alone, you know, all those
shows. So just that journey, that's

549
00:36:42.719 --> 00:36:45.719
kind of where we started the interview. Because I was a fan of Survivorman

550
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:49.840
before the Survivor man Bigfoot stuff,
So I think that gives you a really

551
00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:52.440
good portrait if you were just to
listen to the episode, what the show

552
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:55.719
is really about, and then the
conversation we have about Bigfoot and the open

553
00:36:55.840 --> 00:37:01.039
and the honest conversation about some of
the I was on a show recently where

554
00:37:01.079 --> 00:37:04.559
somebody said, I don't use the
word woo anymore. I call it high

555
00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:07.639
strangeness. So I'll say the high
strangeness that has been involved in some of

556
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:13.960
his experiences out in the woods.
And it was just a really good conversation

557
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:16.800
and he presents it very well,
obviously, because that's what he does for

558
00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:22.480
decades on television. Yeah, and
then just recently, I'd say within the

559
00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:25.920
last couple of months, there was
a hunter I think his name was Daniel

560
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:34.559
and his really weird experience. I
say weird because if you've listened to the

561
00:37:34.599 --> 00:37:37.400
episode, it sounds really intense,
and it is intense. It's about an

562
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:42.880
hour and a half long because he
tells every minute detail of his encountered because

563
00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:45.840
he is just reliving it. And
then I found out why afterwards. You

564
00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:49.440
know, people gave me guff.
Of course you won't. You get those

565
00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:52.320
messages. You should have shut that
guy up. It took and a half

566
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:55.880
to tell a story that should have
lasted forty Absolutely, absolutely, Ryan,

567
00:37:55.960 --> 00:38:00.199
go ahead, Sorry, you know
you know where I'm coming. But you

568
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:02.760
have to, as a host,
at least from me, you have to

569
00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:07.719
just shut up and let people go
through their process. And I found out

570
00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:10.639
afterwards he told me sort of after
it was over, that was the first

571
00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:14.559
time, like he's told pieces to
his wife, He had told pieces of

572
00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:17.480
his encounter to his dad. He
told a piece to a good friend that

573
00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:22.800
that was basically it. He had
never told the entire story from beginning to

574
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:27.599
end, to anybody, but so
it was very important for him to get

575
00:38:27.679 --> 00:38:30.679
every detail because he told me,
he's like, this is like the this

576
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:32.559
is the first and only time I'm
telling it, and I'm done. I'm

577
00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:37.679
moving all of my life because it
was such a traumatic experience for him,

578
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:39.480
he admitted openly on the show,
He's like I tried to bury myself on

579
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:43.679
a bottle, Dude, Like I
tried to drown it in a bottle of

580
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:47.360
whiskey for a year or two after
this encounter because I was so messed up

581
00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:52.039
by but in a nutshell. If
you listen to the episode, you'll get

582
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:55.599
it's tree knocks and he's out ilk
cunning with his dad. His dad goes

583
00:38:55.639 --> 00:39:00.639
into his area. He goes into
his area and he starts hearing woodknos,

584
00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:07.159
and he starts following the wood knox. We'll stop wood knock again, follows

585
00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:12.519
the where the sounds coming from.
This happens over the course of about thirty

586
00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:15.800
minutes ciscoes on and it culminates with
him being basically twenty feet away from this

587
00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:20.199
thing, stepping out behind the tree. They kind of have this oh crap

588
00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:22.800
moment of do I shoot it,
do I run? What do I do?

589
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:25.400
It's a whole thing, but it's
a very very intense encounter. But

590
00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:30.519
he's setting in his pickup truck outside
of his house during this interview, and

591
00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:34.280
he's got his phone up on the
dash and I'm watching him and I'm just

592
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:38.400
intense. I'm just right into his
face and his bodyline was the whole tide.

593
00:39:38.519 --> 00:39:44.199
And this dude was he was traumatized
by this experience. So that was

594
00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:49.320
one that really stuck out to meet
intensity. And you know, at the

595
00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:52.320
end of his encounter, you know, woodknocks are pretty common, but and

596
00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:55.960
this is of course objective and it's
probably a lot of projection, but at

597
00:39:57.000 --> 00:40:00.760
the end of it, he felt
really upset with himself becau is he should

598
00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:04.119
have known better because he felt like
this thing was luring him into the wood

599
00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:07.960
knocks and I've never heard that before. He's like, you know, I

600
00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:09.400
said, why do you think that, man? And he said, because

601
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:15.280
it only not when I stopped walking. If I stopped and I wasn't making

602
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:20.480
progressive movements towards where this thing,
the knock was coming from, it would

603
00:40:20.559 --> 00:40:23.079
knock again. I would move forward, and when I stopped again to listen,

604
00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:27.039
he would knock. And he felt
like he was being lured in.

605
00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:29.400
And of course people have said,
no, I don't believe that. I

606
00:40:29.400 --> 00:40:31.400
don't think he was being lured in. Well, that was certainly his opinion

607
00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:35.079
on the situation, and I'm going
to take his word for it because I

608
00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:39.039
wasn't there and he was. So
that's a really interesting encounter that has stuck

609
00:40:39.079 --> 00:40:44.119
out to me. You know,
out of three hundred plus shows, it's

610
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:46.800
hard to say, you know,
what's the best or what sticks out,

611
00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:51.239
but just those two I think if
if you wanted a snapshot or what the

612
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:53.320
show is really all about, it
would be those two episodes. It's sort

613
00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:59.039
of our you get the celebrity part
of Bigfoot, because I do interview a

614
00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:02.559
lot of people who are somebody in
the Big book community, you know,

615
00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:07.960
that's part of it. But the
majority of the show is about Joe Schmo

616
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:13.639
and Jane whomever who has had really
intense encounters with something that they just can't

617
00:41:13.679 --> 00:41:15.840
explain. That's what is really all
about for me. I love that.

618
00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:21.000
No, man, that's so good. Definitely gonna have those in the show.

619
00:41:21.079 --> 00:41:27.320
Notes, Brian, what do you
feel, after all these years of

620
00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:31.559
talking to people and probably doing some
research yourself, what do you think this

621
00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:37.440
creature is? That is such a
tough question, man. I just literally

622
00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:43.239
last night I finished the last chapter
of Matt pru It's The Phenomenal Sasquatch Booy.

623
00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:50.000
Yeah, and that question, those
questions that Matt asks them the book

624
00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:52.360
still stick out to me to this
day, you know. And those two

625
00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:58.559
questions are, we clearly know the
phenomenon exists, right, bigshoo phenomenon has

626
00:41:58.599 --> 00:42:04.320
existed for thousands of years? But
are they a real creature or do they

627
00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:08.039
only exist in the minds of the
people who believed it they're there? I

628
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:10.880
believe that they're a flesh and blood
creature. I believe that they are a

629
00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:15.480
real. I just don't know what
they are, you know. I think

630
00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:20.280
they're probably some sort of you know, the gigant epithecus thing has been out

631
00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:23.199
there for a lot of years,
and I've never really subscribed to that.

632
00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:29.039
I think it's more some sort of
a possible Australia if the scene of some

633
00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:34.280
sort maybe you know, I don't
know, but I think it's some sort

634
00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:42.360
of maybe a relict hominoid or possibly
even a haman in that's existed without being

635
00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:45.559
detected. Well I can't say without
being detective that's detected one hundred times plus

636
00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:50.000
a year with people seeing them,
so, you know, but undiscovered,

637
00:42:50.079 --> 00:42:53.519
let's put it that way. I
think it's some sort of undiscovered bipedal ape

638
00:42:53.559 --> 00:42:59.360
like creature that we still don't know
what they are. So I love that.

639
00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:02.320
I'm very close to that myself.
I'm right there waiting, man,

640
00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:07.960
I'm one of the I'm in the
Flesh and Blood camp. My caveat to

641
00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:14.039
that is a animals can do weird
stuff, so who's to say it can't

642
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:16.079
do weird stuff too? I mean, you look at like I was at

643
00:43:16.119 --> 00:43:22.159
the Omahasu and my family a few
weeks ago. The kidnap has a way

644
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:30.880
of Um, it can sense electrical
pulses through a sensor about you know,

645
00:43:31.039 --> 00:43:36.599
the animal equivalent of that, and
it's it's a snout Google. Who's to

646
00:43:36.679 --> 00:43:40.719
say that there's another creature that can't
do that something like that. But it's

647
00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:45.880
very, very wild stuff. Have
you ever been you know, besides you're

648
00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:50.639
gonna go with Todd standing out to
radium, have you ever been on a

649
00:43:51.559 --> 00:43:53.559
like an actual like let's take a
weekend, let's go out, let's go

650
00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:58.800
hardcore squatching? Um? Have you
ever done that? Or is this your

651
00:43:58.840 --> 00:44:02.440
first time going out of tiden?
Yeah, this will be the first actual

652
00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:07.239
bigfoot expedition for me, right,
I mean everything else for me has been

653
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:13.440
on my own property. That's one
of the reasons that we purchased so much

654
00:44:13.559 --> 00:44:16.280
property when we bought the forty acres
that we own like five or six years

655
00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:22.159
ago, is I wanted to create
sort of a sanctuary for me and other

656
00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:27.519
like minded people who may want to
come out and just see what's out there.

657
00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:31.159
And I had no idea that there
was even a possibility of having any

658
00:44:31.199 --> 00:44:36.159
kind of activity on the property.
But we've had some weird stuff happen here

659
00:44:36.239 --> 00:44:43.280
with vocalizations and you know, weird
rock formations, possible gifting stuff that's happened,

660
00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:46.559
you know, But just the vocalizations
alone, for me would have been

661
00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:51.079
enough to drive me to continue to
go out. I used to do tons

662
00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:54.280
of night hikes and sort of many, you know, once a week,

663
00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:59.840
I'd go out for four or five
hours and just hike after dark and explore

664
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.840
certain areas of the property as much
as I could, obviously with a head

665
00:45:02.920 --> 00:45:07.239
lamp or whatever. And after we
heard some of the vocalizations I've heard here,

666
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:10.800
I stopped the Nike night hikes,
dude, because I'm like, really,

667
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:15.320
oh snap, yeah, there's some
I've heard some weird stuff that has

668
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:19.599
just made me say, no,
thank you, I'm not going outside.

669
00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:23.599
What so, I mean listeners might
know there's different types of vocalizations you can

670
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:27.159
hear, like ohio howl, stuff
like that, So like, are you

671
00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:30.280
able to describe, like what kind
of stuff were you here? And at

672
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:34.719
night? The majority of it started
when we put a hot tub on the

673
00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:37.000
end. We have a four hundred
square for a time. So it's a

674
00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:40.519
really tiny house in the middle of
forty acres, right, so it's nothing

675
00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:45.960
but woods around us. So we
have a deck out front and we put

676
00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:49.159
a hot tub out front, and
I think it was two winters ago was

677
00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:52.079
the first time we had the hot
tub. And you know, we're out

678
00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:57.679
there midnight drinking a glass of wine
in the hot tub. It's forty degrees,

679
00:45:57.840 --> 00:46:00.920
you know. And I was probably, I don't know, BArch,

680
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:07.039
February March, and we'd here,
there's a huge ridge behind us with about

681
00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:09.800
I think there's about a one hundred
and fifty to two acres of just raw

682
00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:15.519
land behind us on the back of
the ridge and in that general area probably

683
00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:20.079
I don't know, I'm estimating mile
mile and a half. We could hear

684
00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:28.159
what sounded like ohio, howel kind
of vocalizations and heard but several times I'm

685
00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:30.679
like, oh yeah, just kinda
list now. It sounds weird, you

686
00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:34.559
know, just finish up your glass
of wine, going the house and whatever.

687
00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:37.519
And it wasn't something we'd hear every
single night, you know, we'd

688
00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:39.440
be out there pretty much every night. I'd say, maybe twice a week

689
00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:49.039
you'd hear something high and just I
think maybe that same year, so we're

690
00:46:49.039 --> 00:46:52.880
talking like two years ago. That
same year, like in the spring,

691
00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:57.760
it was still cooled outside, but
it was we have nothing but windows in

692
00:46:57.840 --> 00:47:00.199
the laws where we sloped in the
house, the windows open. I finished

693
00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:04.280
up the show, I had a
good interview. I was writing down some

694
00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:08.880
show notes and things before I went
to bed, and we hear probably forty

695
00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:15.679
yards maybe fifty yards in the woods
from the house, like Ohio Howell,

696
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:21.760
tight Howel, And it sort of
ends with like a bark on the end,

697
00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:28.280
and it was super loud to the
point where I felt it and it

698
00:47:28.440 --> 00:47:30.559
was enough to scare the shit out
of it. And I was my kidness

699
00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:37.000
too, like what it was?
Literally, what was that? I don't

700
00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:38.320
know? What was that? Do
you hear that? Yes? I heard

701
00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:43.239
that? And then and then they're
like, Brian, you're the guy who

702
00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:46.079
talks to people about it, like
you go down the way like I don't

703
00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:49.920
know, you know, I'm not
I'm not I'm not going out. I'm

704
00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:52.199
not going out. And that's what
people asked me, that did you go

705
00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:54.079
out and check? No? I
did not. I did not. I

706
00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:57.719
did not want to see what it
was. I didn't want to get any

707
00:47:57.760 --> 00:48:00.400
closer to than we already were.
And of course people have said, well

708
00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:05.599
I was a person. No,
I wasn't a person, and I don't

709
00:48:05.639 --> 00:48:07.679
know, man, I just and
like I said it, we found the

710
00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:12.719
footprint. That's probably been three weeks
ago. Now, about three weeks ago

711
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:15.440
on a hike. Found the footprint
on a hike, all the weird stuff,

712
00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:21.000
the tree breaks, the stacked full
from type things. Found a rock

713
00:48:21.119 --> 00:48:23.320
formation stacked at the top of the
ridge, back at the back where we

714
00:48:23.400 --> 00:48:30.360
stop and usually have a snack in
mid area. And then literally like two

715
00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:35.440
maybe two days later. I can't
you remember who I told I was on

716
00:48:35.559 --> 00:48:37.400
a I was a guest on another
show when I talked about this recently.

717
00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:40.559
You know, we're in the country, so you know I have a tendency

718
00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:43.960
to get up and go out on
the porch and be off the porch at

719
00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:47.559
three o'clock ago, right, Yeah, So I did that and I'd never

720
00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:52.199
heard anything that ever resembled a tree
knock until that night. It was about

721
00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:57.800
three fifteen and I hear what sounds
like four power knocks, bam bam,

722
00:48:57.960 --> 00:49:01.880
bam, bam bam, and I'm
like, what the hell is going on?

723
00:49:02.599 --> 00:49:06.400
Just out of the blue, never
heard it before, and it was

724
00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:07.679
like it was like bam bam,
bam, bam bam. It was really

725
00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:13.039
really fast, and I'm thinking Okay, it's three fifteen. Now. You

726
00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:15.840
still live in Atlanta. I was
a city of Atlanta cop right three o'clock

727
00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:19.039
in the morning. In Atlanta,
you're liable to hear anything. Not in

728
00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:22.079
Lenora, North Carolina, Dude,
they roll up the sidewalks at like seven

729
00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:24.559
thirty on a weekday, and this
is like a Wednesday. I don't know

730
00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:28.920
what it could have been. I
really don't like nobody's up hammering at that

731
00:49:29.000 --> 00:49:31.360
time of the day. Nobody's doing
construction, you know, across the ridge.

732
00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:35.559
I don't know, man. It
was just really really weird in it.

733
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:37.840
You know, I didn't see what
did it. I would call it

734
00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:40.480
power knocks. It sounded like tree
knocks to me. So I don't know,

735
00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:47.760
just really weird stuff. But have
you contemplated putting up like any recorders

736
00:49:47.800 --> 00:49:52.880
around your property? Audio recorders?
I've I've talked about that. Doug has

737
00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:55.400
been after me, David Ellis has
been after me for years to be got

738
00:49:55.480 --> 00:49:59.920
to and I just you know,
I'm going to do it. I'm older

739
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:04.320
in a couple of those. I'm
definitely going to take some to the outing

740
00:50:04.360 --> 00:50:07.039
with me in October up at Radium, and I'm going to order them and

741
00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:10.880
start using them here so I can
get proficient with them and I understand them.

742
00:50:10.920 --> 00:50:14.480
So I'm going to start doing that
and putting those out on the property

743
00:50:14.519 --> 00:50:17.000
because it is a good idea,
Like I would love to have some of

744
00:50:17.079 --> 00:50:21.440
the stuff that we've heard captured on
the hot and it would be amazed.

745
00:50:21.599 --> 00:50:23.760
But of course it's like everything else, you know, and I'm really upset

746
00:50:23.800 --> 00:50:28.320
it plenty of times on the show. I'm apprehensive to even put it out

747
00:50:28.360 --> 00:50:30.920
there because I am the dude with
a big foot podcast, and then you

748
00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:34.280
start talking about having things happen and
people like, I don't know about dead

749
00:50:34.760 --> 00:50:37.159
but I don't know. Yeah,
I get it, but you know,

750
00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:42.239
I just if people listen and people
know me well enough, they know I'm

751
00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:44.519
nobs Like, I just put it
out there. It is what it is.

752
00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:47.559
Don't make anything up. You'll never
hear me say anything definitive about bigfoot

753
00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:52.599
because I don't know unless I know
if I see it now, if I

754
00:50:52.639 --> 00:50:54.159
see it making a footprint, I'm
gonna tell you, yeah, I casted

755
00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:58.679
that and I saw the bigfoot,
mate. But otherwise I'm just gonna say

756
00:50:58.719 --> 00:51:01.159
it looks like a footprint could be
could have been a wood knock. I

757
00:51:01.239 --> 00:51:06.199
don't know. Definitely wasn't a woodpecker
at three fifteen in the mormal Yeah,

758
00:51:06.639 --> 00:51:09.840
man, that would be bad news. Um what is? Do you have

759
00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:14.400
any thoughts? And you know,
there's a topic that I love and I

760
00:51:14.599 --> 00:51:22.880
love talking to people from or people
Oklahoma. I love Oklahoma Sasquash bigfoot,

761
00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:28.360
that that La Flora County. Do
you have any thoughts about big foot in

762
00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:30.760
Oklahoma? I just I just love
it so much, dude. I have

763
00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:37.920
talked to so many people recently.
It's it's turned into the Oklahoma Area Exstusting

764
00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:43.039
Foot podcast because it started with Daryl
Collier, then it was Michael May's and

765
00:51:43.119 --> 00:51:46.000
then it was Blind Brown and Matt
Roots actually coming on. Matt's coming on

766
00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:49.800
at the end of the month.
I've got an interview schedule with him.

767
00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:52.320
I'm gonna get to hang out with
him at the Sasquatch the Smoking About on

768
00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:57.159
big Foot conference on Saturday, So
that'll be fun. He'll be up there

769
00:51:57.159 --> 00:51:59.960
pedaling his books and hanging out with
Cliffs and I'm gonna get to hang out

770
00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:04.239
of those guys. But Oklahoma Sasquatch
is crazy, man. I just had

771
00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:07.280
an interview with Randy Hearrington last night. Oh yeah, Randy and I talked

772
00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:12.760
for about an hour and a half
and he has got some wild encounter stories

773
00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:16.960
from Oklahoma, luff War County,
in particular at a campsite where he had

774
00:52:17.079 --> 00:52:22.000
his It's a crazy encounter. I
don't know if you've heard it or not,

775
00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:24.360
if you've talked to him. To
Randy, it's the one where they

776
00:52:24.559 --> 00:52:30.000
unzip the is it that one.
It's the one where he's in the truck.

777
00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:32.480
He's in the bed, he's in
the cab of his truck, and

778
00:52:32.559 --> 00:52:37.320
he's got everything blinded out. He's
put curtains and up things up to make

779
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:40.000
them think, to fool the sasquatch
into thinking he's not in the campsite because

780
00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:45.000
he's there in like February, And
it's a whole wild story. But basically,

781
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:49.960
here's rattling on the trash can.
Something's picking up and pulling the cinder

782
00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:52.559
block off of a trash can lid
and lifting it up, and he looks

783
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:55.840
out the front. He peeks out
his little blind and he's got set up

784
00:52:55.880 --> 00:53:00.360
in the camp of his big Dooley
pickup truck and he sees two sass squatch

785
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:05.119
and then they go around behind his
truck and one of them climbs up on

786
00:53:05.280 --> 00:53:10.400
the bed of his truck onto looking
over the bad Uh these ladder racks of

787
00:53:10.519 --> 00:53:15.480
this truck. It's it's crazy.
It's a crazy story. But that happened

788
00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:20.239
in the camp side, in the
four camp. I've talked to him before.

789
00:53:21.039 --> 00:53:24.280
It was after I went out with
Take last August to go squatch in

790
00:53:24.400 --> 00:53:31.639
Iowa and I captured something on audio
where unzips my ten really messed with me

791
00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:35.320
for a few weeks, still messes
with me. And I talked to Randy

792
00:53:35.400 --> 00:53:37.119
and he's like, oh, yeah, they totally could unzip stuff. I'm

793
00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:42.239
like, oh, man, Randy's
and now you're freaking me out. He's

794
00:53:42.239 --> 00:53:44.639
a great That's gonna be a great
episode. I'm looking forward to that.

795
00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:49.199
Man, that's good stuff. Oh
boy. Hey, I haven't asked this

796
00:53:49.360 --> 00:53:53.920
question for a long time, But
you're you're an educated individual. What do

797
00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:59.920
you have? I'm sure you have
an awesome bigfoot bookshelf. What are your

798
00:54:00.199 --> 00:54:06.800
like, top three go too Squatching
books? Well, that's changed recently because

799
00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:09.679
I like to change it up.
I would say number one on the book

800
00:54:09.719 --> 00:54:15.119
list is probably sa I'm looking at
him now, sasquatch legend meets science.

801
00:54:15.679 --> 00:54:21.360
Nice and I do have the quantum
big Foot. It's there. It's it's

802
00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:24.440
in the rotation because I think there's
some things to be gleaned there from,

803
00:54:25.159 --> 00:54:29.960
you know, some of the things
that Ryan talks about, and I think,

804
00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:34.760
you know, the top three would
be rounded out now with nap brew

805
00:54:34.800 --> 00:54:37.559
It's book. I wow, very
cool. Okay, it is. I

806
00:54:37.719 --> 00:54:43.039
have it right here and it's next
up to be read, so I'm excited

807
00:54:43.119 --> 00:54:45.199
to dig into it. Buckle your
seatbell, dude, you probably ought to

808
00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:50.199
get you at Thesaurus out because Matt
uses words that I had to look up

809
00:54:50.280 --> 00:54:53.519
myself. I talked to him recently. I called him a couple of well,

810
00:54:53.559 --> 00:54:55.800
I called him about a month or
so bad because I've got a TV

811
00:54:55.920 --> 00:55:00.280
thing going on and I was interested
in maybe MBA Assi Build being involved in

812
00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:02.400
it. So I called Matt up
and we're talking about something else, and

813
00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:07.480
we started talking about podcasting. And
I just came back from a conference here

814
00:55:07.639 --> 00:55:12.280
in Counterquest in North Carolina. Yeah, And I told Matt, it's so

815
00:55:12.440 --> 00:55:15.039
funny that I have so many listeners
obviously from my homestate that kind of follow

816
00:55:15.079 --> 00:55:17.199
if they know I'm going to be
somewhere in North Carolina. They try to

817
00:55:17.239 --> 00:55:21.360
make it out if they can.
And I probably had six or eight people

818
00:55:21.400 --> 00:55:22.559
come up to the table and I'd
like to ask them, you know,

819
00:55:22.599 --> 00:55:25.159
what's your favorite episode of the show. What do you like so much about

820
00:55:25.159 --> 00:55:28.400
the show? If there's one,
like I kind of like you asked me

821
00:55:28.480 --> 00:55:30.400
what stuck out to you? And
with al fail. I had at least

822
00:55:30.440 --> 00:55:35.559
six or eight people that day say
that dude, I can't remember his name.

823
00:55:35.599 --> 00:55:37.320
I think it was Matt. I
said, Matt Pruett. They're like,

824
00:55:37.480 --> 00:55:42.280
yeah, what was that word at
the beginning of the show, And

825
00:55:42.360 --> 00:55:46.760
I said vera similitude and they go, yeah, Varia similitude. It's the

826
00:55:46.920 --> 00:55:52.280
funniest thing because Matt, you know, they have the apes among Us podcast

827
00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:57.960
so good, and Matt had done
an episode and it was right before I

828
00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:00.199
think it was right before he put
it out, right before he came on

829
00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:02.159
the show the first time, a
couple of years ago, and I heard

830
00:56:02.239 --> 00:56:07.960
the episode and he does this diatribe
about veria similitude, and I thought it

831
00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:09.599
was brilliant. It was like a
minute and a half, two minutes.

832
00:56:09.639 --> 00:56:12.960
And I after he came on the
show, I called him up a couple

833
00:56:12.960 --> 00:56:15.679
of days later and I said,
dude, I'm editing your show together.

834
00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:20.360
I want to change the intro and
I want it to be all about Veria

835
00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:23.559
Similitude. Can I use that audio
from apes among Us and play it?

836
00:56:23.920 --> 00:56:28.920
He's like, absolutely, he said, you think people be interested in that.

837
00:56:29.400 --> 00:56:31.599
It's amazing how it stuck to people. They probably still don't know what

838
00:56:31.679 --> 00:56:36.119
the word means, but they like
it because of the way that he used

839
00:56:36.159 --> 00:56:37.960
it and he talks about it.
Was part of I don't want to give

840
00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:43.360
anything away, but there is a
part of Matt's book where Vera similitude comes

841
00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:46.039
up and he talks about what that
means and what it means to the bigfoot

842
00:56:46.079 --> 00:56:50.400
community. So I just thought it
was so cool. But there are a

843
00:56:50.480 --> 00:56:52.400
lot of big words, and to
his credit, I think he starts out

844
00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:55.159
the book talking about that. And
that's one of the things we talked about

845
00:56:55.199 --> 00:56:58.639
before the book came out. When
he was still getting it done. He's

846
00:56:58.639 --> 00:57:00.679
like, you know, people have
been telling me for years I need to

847
00:57:00.760 --> 00:57:04.920
dumb down talking bigfoot, and I'm
just refusing to do it because I think

848
00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:07.039
it's I don't think we have to
do that. And I agree Man,

849
00:57:07.079 --> 00:57:09.480
I don't think dumbing it down is
going to help anybody. I think it

850
00:57:09.599 --> 00:57:15.079
raises the bar. And anybody who
reads that book, and everybody I've talked

851
00:57:15.079 --> 00:57:17.079
to who has read that book says
the same thing. It's one of the

852
00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:22.360
most brilliantly written books on the subject
that they've ever read. And it goes

853
00:57:22.440 --> 00:57:25.480
into what it could be, what
it might be. There's so much stuff

854
00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:29.440
to dig into, and Matt does
it in a beautiful way. Is a

855
00:57:29.639 --> 00:57:31.239
really, really talented writer. So
I can't wait for you to read it,

856
00:57:31.280 --> 00:57:34.360
and I can't wait for you to
send me that text and let me

857
00:57:34.440 --> 00:57:37.280
know what you think about it.
Absolutely if you like it as much I

858
00:57:37.400 --> 00:57:39.960
did. That's a really cool Top
three. I like that Top three.

859
00:57:40.519 --> 00:57:45.880
That's awesome. Brian. Let's end
with this. And you reminded me because

860
00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:52.199
you mentioned the Smoking Mountain Big Field
Conference. It's coming up really quick,

861
00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:55.280
but you're doing something really cool for
that. Do you mind going over how

862
00:57:55.320 --> 00:57:58.960
you're going to be involved with that
conference. It's a really cool thing that

863
00:57:59.079 --> 00:58:01.719
you're doing. Yeah, it's really
interesting. Is right up my alley.

864
00:58:01.800 --> 00:58:06.159
It's sometimes on a couple of times, you know, I've been to that

865
00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:09.039
conference a couple of times as just
a spectator. I went the first year

866
00:58:09.159 --> 00:58:12.920
in twenty twenty one. Last year
we were there as a vendor, and

867
00:58:13.039 --> 00:58:15.320
then this year, you know,
Marty and Nikki reached out to me and

868
00:58:15.360 --> 00:58:16.719
said, hey, we'd like you
to be a part of this. We'd

869
00:58:16.800 --> 00:58:22.280
like you to handle the encounters portion
of the show because they had you know,

870
00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:24.599
typically I think they would do some
encounters after each one of the speakers,

871
00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:29.880
so it was kind of broken up
throughout the program. And I think

872
00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:32.400
it's important because there's a lot of
people who want to share their encounters live

873
00:58:32.519 --> 00:58:36.800
in front of those people. Some
people have never told their stories before and

874
00:58:36.840 --> 00:58:38.559
they're going to do it for the
first time on that huge stage in front

875
00:58:38.559 --> 00:58:43.079
of the thread of four thousand people. So they asked me if I would

876
00:58:43.079 --> 00:58:47.000
handle that. So I am at
three thirty on Saturday. I will be

877
00:58:47.119 --> 00:58:52.079
handling the encounters portion. We should
have some really cool encounters to be shared.

878
00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:55.199
So I'm really looking forward to it
because normally the MC does it.

879
00:58:55.360 --> 00:59:00.559
RPG's the MC this year again,
and normally as just something sort of an

880
00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:04.920
afterthought honestly, the MC hambu.
But to be able to actually sit down

881
00:59:05.039 --> 00:59:08.679
on stage and let the people have
their moment is really important to me.

882
00:59:09.320 --> 00:59:13.440
And I already had a couple of
listeners actually at my show. I was

883
00:59:13.480 --> 00:59:15.760
talking to one. I was texting
them back and forth before I got on

884
00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:17.400
with you. Who's going to be
there to tell a story? He's like,

885
00:59:17.840 --> 00:59:21.480
I'm nervous, man, And he's
like, I don't think I could

886
00:59:21.519 --> 00:59:23.079
do it if you weren't going to
be on the stage. Wow. Like,

887
00:59:23.559 --> 00:59:25.320
well, that's what it's all about, man, you don't have to

888
00:59:25.360 --> 00:59:28.440
be nervous. I got you,
I got you back. I'm right there

889
00:59:28.480 --> 00:59:30.039
with you every step of the way. So I think that will change the

890
00:59:30.119 --> 00:59:32.480
dynamic. That was sort of my
idea. I told Marty, I think

891
00:59:32.519 --> 00:59:37.000
you need to have somebody as a
moderator on the stage kind of walking people

892
00:59:37.039 --> 00:59:39.679
through it, because it is a
tough thing just to hand a microphone to

893
00:59:39.960 --> 00:59:44.480
you Joe, who's never been up
in front of anybody and talking and say

894
00:59:44.559 --> 00:59:46.920
hey, there you go. But
when you have somebody who's willing to take

895
00:59:47.000 --> 00:59:51.800
that journey with them and go right
along with them every step of the way

896
00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:53.920
physically on the stage, I think
it's going to make a big difference,

897
00:59:53.960 --> 00:59:58.239
at least I hope. So so
I'm really excited about it. I think

898
00:59:59.480 --> 01:00:01.320
I think you'll see if you've been
there before and you've seen how it's handled

899
01:00:01.320 --> 01:00:05.960
in the past, I think you'll
see a march difference this year and how

900
01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:12.840
the encounters are highlighted and really becomes
part of the show. So that's really

901
01:00:12.920 --> 01:00:16.320
exciting people that are attending that are
going to get a real tree for sure.

902
01:00:16.639 --> 01:00:20.719
I've never had so many people ask
me if I'm going to be at

903
01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:23.400
a conference that's the conference, and
I had to say this year, no,

904
01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:29.519
But we do have plans to be
there for the twenty twenty four conference.

905
01:00:29.559 --> 01:00:34.199
Who will be traveling down from Iowa
to Gallenburg, Tennessee for that just

906
01:00:34.239 --> 01:00:37.880
because it is such an amazing conference. So it'll be a good, good

907
01:00:37.960 --> 01:00:42.000
time in twenty twenty four. But
Brian, this has been such a fun

908
01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:47.159
chat has been long overdue. Do
you mind taking a few minutes and just

909
01:00:47.480 --> 01:00:51.599
anything you want to throw out there
how people can keep up to date with

910
01:00:51.679 --> 01:00:54.400
what you're doing all that good stuff. Now is definitely the time to throw

911
01:00:54.480 --> 01:00:58.679
it all out there. Sure,
if you want to listen to the show

912
01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:01.400
anywhere you listen to foot Society on
any podcast app, you can get the

913
01:01:01.440 --> 01:01:06.880
show. We have a YouTube channel, Sasquatch Odyssey Podcast on YouTube. You

914
01:01:06.920 --> 01:01:09.480
can check it out there. We're
not just my show, there's tons of

915
01:01:09.519 --> 01:01:13.440
shows. Really, we're sort of
a networker shows. If you have the

916
01:01:13.519 --> 01:01:16.079
Paranormal Odyssey. In addition to Sasquatch
Odyssey, I do a true crime show

917
01:01:16.159 --> 01:01:21.440
called Truecrime Odyssey. And we've added
a couple of other shows to our network

918
01:01:21.519 --> 01:01:23.639
recently the Kentucky X Files. We've
got Tyler, Denny, and Josh,

919
01:01:23.880 --> 01:01:28.960
and we also just had the guys
from the Basement Hangout Chat and Bob joined

920
01:01:28.960 --> 01:01:32.320
the network. They're all going to
be with me in Tennessee at the Gallenberg

921
01:01:32.400 --> 01:01:36.719
Conference, so what can They have
a huge time at the booth. So

922
01:01:36.800 --> 01:01:38.719
if anybody's in that area and you
want to come by and see us,

923
01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:42.760
make sure you stop by the booths. And we're the first booth on Speaker

924
01:01:42.840 --> 01:01:44.960
Road. You can't miss us.
As soon as you walk out, you're

925
01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:46.679
gonna see us. We're gonna be
right in your face, right across from

926
01:01:46.719 --> 01:01:52.840
Seth Breedlove and those guys at Smalltown
Monsters with they're huge booth. So yeah,

927
01:01:52.920 --> 01:01:54.039
and like I said, anywhere you
can get your podcast, you can

928
01:01:54.159 --> 01:01:58.559
check out Sasquatch Odyssey. We'd love
to have you listen and give those other

929
01:01:58.599 --> 01:02:02.280
guys to listen to. They do
some fantastic shows. Yeah, Jack.

930
01:02:02.320 --> 01:02:07.840
As for my TikTok, fans follow
Sasquatch outsee on TikTok because they've got some

931
01:02:08.360 --> 01:02:12.559
It's got some really cool stuff over
there, and we need more more people

932
01:02:12.599 --> 01:02:15.440
to be hanging out with him on
TikTok. But Ryan, thank you so

933
01:02:15.559 --> 01:02:20.239
much for coming on. This has
been a great chat and just have a

934
01:02:20.679 --> 01:02:23.280
great rest of your night and can't
wait to see what you come up with

935
01:02:23.440 --> 01:02:30.800
next. Man awesome YouTube. Jerem
High appreciate it. Here at Bigfoot Society,

936
01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:36.400
article is to provide a platform for
those that have encountered Bigfoot to share

937
01:02:36.480 --> 01:02:40.280
their encounter in a safe and respected
environment. But we need to hear your

938
01:02:40.400 --> 01:02:45.800
story. If you've experienced something that
you just can't explain, please send me

939
01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:52.639
an email at Bigfoot Society at gmail
dot com. Then we can start the

940
01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:58.079
conversation. And I know a lot
of you have not shared your encounter at

941
01:02:58.159 --> 01:03:01.840
all. It's been twenty years and
it's time that you get this off your

942
01:03:01.920 --> 01:03:06.840
chest and then you can get some
well deserved for Rest because I know you

943
01:03:06.920 --> 01:03:12.000
haven't been sleeping. I understand what
you're going through, and I appreciate every

944
01:03:12.039 --> 01:03:12.840
one of you listening