April 6, 2025

Called From the Woods | Idaho

This episode was originally released on 6/14/24.Join host Jeremiah Byron with Bigfoot Society for an in-depth episode featuring Anne, who recounts her extensive and chilling encounters with Bigfoot and other high strangeness across the Pacific...

This episode was originally released on 6/14/24.Join host Jeremiah Byron with Bigfoot Society for an in-depth episode featuring Anne, who recounts her extensive and chilling encounters with Bigfoot and other high strangeness across the Pacific Northwest, Oklahoma, and Idaho. Beginning with a terrifying childhood sighting in Spokane, Washington, Anne shares a lifetime of experiences that include childhood night terrors, hearing voices, and unsettling dreams. In Oklahoma, she experienced violent tree shaking and found unusual footprints, while in North Idaho, she witnessed bizarre electronic sounds and close interactions with elk.

These encounters have led Anne to develop unique theories about Bigfoot, their connection to ancient mysteries, and how they manipulate their surroundings. Don't miss Anne's captivating and thought-provoking stories that span across several states and offer a deep dive into the supernatural aspects of Bigfoot phenomena.

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slash the Big for Society and now let's get on

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with the show, all right, Bigfat Society. We got the

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privilege of talking to individual Anne, who I'd seen a

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comment on a YouTube video and I had asked for

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her to reach out, and she actually did end up

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reaching out, and it's leading to a very interesting conversation

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that's about to happen. I've been waiting to talk to

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and for little bit of time, and I'm glad that

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the time is finally here. But Ann, how are we

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doing tonight?

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Wonderful? The Pleasure's mind I'm glad.

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That you called absolutely. I mean it is. I think

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there's going to be a lot to this one. But Anne,

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I'm going to go ahead and let you fill in

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the details about what you would like the audience to

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know about your background, if anything.

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Okay, So the topic is bigfoot obviously or things like that,

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high strangeness, and so from a very early age. I'm

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in my I'm about fifty three, but in the early

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seventies I had my first experience. I'm from the Pacific Northwest,

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and I have lived in other places. Some of those

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events occurred in other places too, and I can get

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into those if that's where we go. I grew up

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on a farm, a conventional family, and you know a

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little bit of religion. There definite belief in God and

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you know, our savior in Jesus Christ, things like that.

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But also there was a rift in the family. My

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parents divorced, and then after that time, you know, you know,

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there was there was movements. So it's not I don't

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want it to be portrayed that it always was conventional,

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because you'll see that that my story takes me to

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different places too, because I've had to scramble as a

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single mom, myself and work, and you know, so I've

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had to travel a lot. So that's that kind of

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leads into why there are situations that have happened it

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or occurred in different parts of the country. But leading

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back to I think it was like nineteen seventy four,

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my dad and his cousin we were in We were

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north of Spokane, Washington State. It was in Washington State,

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that's northeast Washington, and we were in Spokane. I remember

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vividly at least see seeing the thing. My cousin, my

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second cousin, was babysitting because my dad and his cousin.

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His cousin was in law school and my mom and

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my dad were friends with you know, they used to

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go do things together, and so his oldest daughter would

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babysit us. Well, there was four or five kids, and

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we were all about the same age. I was, I

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think the youngest. Maybe there might have been one younger

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than me, but I was about four. We were in

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the yard playing making mudpies and we had a hose

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out there, I remember, and it was on the South

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Hill and Spokane. But this is back before there was

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a lot of development and so there was more trees

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in the back behind and forested areas, and so we

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were in the backyard playing and there was a big

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tree to my left, and I was facing say north,

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because the house was also to the west of me,

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which was on my left. And then there was a big,

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huge tree, like a tamarack, because you know, Pacific Northwest

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is well known for those, even in backyards. And then

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you know, we had this big mud you know, blog

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or whatever we were playing in and then the kids

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all ran in, so they ran inside, and I just

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remember lagging behind because I wanted to still make mudpies.

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I was having a grand old time and I didn't

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want to go in, so I stayed out. And that

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was always curious to me because it was like a

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point of separation that's talked about. The kids went inside,

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I was alone, and I'm sitting there making these mudpies,

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and I remember seeing something huge behind the tree. It

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like slid up behind the tree, and I just saw

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it like peripherally, and then it leaned out, and I

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remember seeing these huge eyes. It was huge. I mean

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it must have been, I don't know because I was

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so young, but it was very large and ominous, and

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I remember experiencing its presence like it was formidable. It

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was scary. I was literally terrified, and it didn't have

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a normal expression on its face, like it wasn't friendly,

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it wasn't it like looked at me like very intense intent,

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and I just took off running into the house. Well

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I had to run past it, but I did like

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a you know, I curved around, you know, I swung

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wide and I got inside, and I had wet my pants,

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and I may have like done more than that, because

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I remember I got in trouble by the parents because

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they didn't have a change of clothes for me, and

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that it became about that. Like I never got that

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part out to them, that there had been you know,

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not that I was very you know, vocal at the

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age of four, but I know that later on we

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had talked about it. My family's well aware that it happened,

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and my dad said, well, maybe it was teenagers or something.

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But he had his own experience when he was ten

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sixty miles north of Spokane when he was hunting, because

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back then they used to hunt really young, back in

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the fifties or sixties whenever it was, and so you know,

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he's more open to these sorts of things than you know,

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like maybe another parent or something. But my entire family

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knew that I had experienced this thing because I'd talked

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about it off and on after that, and then also

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after that I experienced, like right away it was really weird.

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I would go to bed and my bed would shake,

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and then I would get these impressions like it was

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like mine speak, but it was like in unison there

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was more than one voice, and it would be like,

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we are going to get you, just like this chanting

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sort of stuff. It was so bizarre, and I would

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go into my parents' bedroom, I remember, and tell him,

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I'm I can't get rid of that. Oh it's your subconscious.

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Oh you know, it'll be okay, It'll be okay. And

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then at the age of eight, I was baptized, and

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then I had just noticed that I had thought I'd

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grow out of it, But looking back later, I realized

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that that was around the time that that I never

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had those those voices at night. So it wasn't like

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a paranoid sort of schizoid sort of you know event

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or anything like that. It wasn't like that sort of

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development because it would only happen at night, and it

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would only happen when I was, you know, alone, So

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it's not like you know, I was hearing these these

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voices or something. It's when I was alone at night

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in my bed, and then the bed would shake, and

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my dreams were terrible. I mean it would be like,

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you know, I'd have dreams that big hairy creatures were

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coming after me, and and that you know, I would

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freeze in the yard and I would drag my legs

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to the house or I had to protect my little

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kittens or something, and and you know, I would be

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putting up these cardboard walls because you know, the creatures

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would be coming through the walls. It was just always

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really night tears and things like that. And then, like

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I said, when I got baptized, that sort of stuff

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went away. The night terrors, that sleep paralysis still came

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back off and on, but the that mind speaks stuff

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all went away. And I truly do believe that we

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have power in that sort of thing. So that's kind

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of why I led into the whole. You know that

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there was a religious breadthground there and some people don't

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believe that sort of thing. But just whatever your flavor is,

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whatever it is, that was mine and it worked and

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it worked for me at least that's that's my that's

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how I feel about it. And then later on, as

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time went on, some weird stuff happened, like there was

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another incident in Spokan, but it wasn't a it wasn't

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a bigfoot I I saw.

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Like and before we get into that, and I know

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listeners are hating me right now, but we already talked before,

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guys that we're gonna there's going to be kind of

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camp outs through this conversation because I don't want to

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just skip over what you just shared. And it was

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a lot that you just shared, right, and maybe we

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could chat about that for a little bit, Okay, Okay, cool.

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So that was back when you were four that you

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had your first visual when you think for five, yeah, okay,

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And when you think of that time your memory that

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you have, do you remember as it was this big

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like ape type creature or it was a big, like

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weird looking human type creature or is there anything like

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that in your mind?

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Well, and that's the confusion because I wasn't sure that

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it was like a bigfoot at the time, because it

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wasn't like a big, hairy ape, but it was if

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you could imagine the outline of one. You could still

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see its eyes and things like that. It was still there, intangible,

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but it was like I was like, I don't know

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how to the only other. I mean, I've seen one

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since and it's not it's the same thing. But this

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was more like a like a creature. I mean, it

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was more like so hard to explain. I heard it

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explained one time on another podcast where this woman had

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come up through Wyoming and she said that she saw

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one that was stretched across the highway and it smiled

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at her, had a big mouth, you know. But she

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said it was like a weird color, like cream or

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something like that. I know that sounds weird, but that's

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what it was like. It wasn't your traditional you know.

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It was like I don't remember so much like the

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hair or fur as I do that it was just

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this huge head and face staring at me. And then

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I saw the body out of the corner of my

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eye slide up behind the tree. But it was huge.

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And then when it came out the front part of

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the tree, its eyes must have been I mean, they

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must have been as big as baseballs. I felt like

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I don't know. I was four or five, you know, yeah,

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but big, huge mouth huge.

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I was going to ask you about it, So it

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was it kind of a drawn out mouth or do

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you remember any specifics about the mouth? I think it smiled, okay,

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were you able to see teeth when I smiled? Oh

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huh uh? Interesting? And do you remember any other details

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of the face, like maybe skin color?

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I don't, I don't. What's got my my memory kind

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of messed up is that I saw it crawl behind

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the tree up to the tree, and when it did that,

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it was a weird thing. It was a weird, not

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normal thing. The way it kind of crept up, like

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it kind of glided up a little bit but was

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on the ground, but kind of it was really weird.

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And so the whole that part of it and then

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it leaning out. The eyes were big, the mouth and

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it like looked at me like I don't know, like

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why I don't know why it didn't grab me like

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that should have come next.

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I was going to ask you, you know, because there's

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a point where you had to run past it, but

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you made a wide curve, right, mm hmmm. How did

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did it react to it all? When you did that

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run past.

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I was fight or fight, I had no nothing. As

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soon as as soon as I saw it was like

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I got that whatever adrenaline dump and was gone. I mean,

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thank goodness, you know, at least it wasn't you know,

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to freeze. Yeah, it triggered me to shoot out of there,

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and I don't I just remember just being it just

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had like so fast into the house, like it was

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there's no way I was sticking around.

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How soon after that did the hearing the voices and

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the dreams start.

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I would have to say right away. I mean, because

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my memories go back to that point, you know what

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I mean. And not a lot of people remember past

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like four or five, right, but I have memories back

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to three, like when my mom brought home my little brother,

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who's three years younger than me. I remember when she

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brought him home, But I don't remember mind speaker anything

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like that. And it wasn't like mine speak, like it

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really wasn't having a communication with me. It was like

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somehow these voices and there was numerous voices were trying

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to scare me and they were chanting, and it's just crazy.

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It's nothing that I heard, Like our house was, you know,

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no one else heard it. Our house was very My

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dad's very protective. He's a marine veteran, you know. I mean,

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just there's just no way that it was coming from

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anywhere else other than what was inside of me. And

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maybe it was just me and my subconscious, but there

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was a correlation, is all I'm saying. I mean it

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certainly I tied it together, and maybe it was a

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trauma response. Maybe maybe it was a trauma response. And

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then maybe you know, just being baptized after that made

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me feel secure and safe, and.

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You know, yeah, absolutely the dreams that you would have

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where that you said the big hair creatures would be

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coming after you, Yes, did they look the same as

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what you saw.

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Sometimes they were represented as apes, sometimes they were represented

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as bears. But I have actually had dreams of giants

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before I had my most recent sighting.

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Big for Society will be right back after these messages.

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So I've had I've had dreams that I was up

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on our property up north of Spokane and that there

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was a big flood and then they were like swinging

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down and like they weren't good, but it was like

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some kind of natural disaster and they were coming around

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and they were formidable again, you know, but they were

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at that point like Bigfoot.

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Okay, and this is a dream you had around the

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same time you said that was later in life, No.

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Later later, they've just been ongoing.

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Yeah, oh you've had ongoing dreams like oh yeah really yeah, okay,

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So the the the voices stopped after you got baptized,

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but the dreams did not. M No, No, really interesting.

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And that could just be my own fears, you know,

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I don't know, I mean obviously.

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So M well, yeah that I just wanted to talk

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about that for for a little bit. Oh actually there

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were a few more. So the house that this happened around.

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How close was your closest neighbor at that time.

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Behind us? I'm not sure because because we were up

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on the south like right now, it would it's just

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you know, it's all developed. But I think it was

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just a regular neighborhood where there was forest in the back,

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you know.

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What I mean.

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It came in through the back. It came in through

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the back, for sure, for sure it did, because that's

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the you know, way it traveled. So but it was

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still a populated area. You know, you didn't have to

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go very far to go to the bing Crosby Theater

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down the hill, you know, but it was up high

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on the south hill a bit. But it was just

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way back then. It just wasn't as developed. You didn't

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have your nice model homes that are up there now.

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Behind there was just a lot of open area.

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Do you think your parents believed you at all when

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you would tell them of what happened?

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Yeah, because my dad has had situations like like I said,

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when he was ten, he was he was hunting in

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a swamp on our property and he said he could

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fill a presence in there, and it scared him and

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he left. He was hunting a deer in there in

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the swamp. It was a big area, and I remember

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riding horses by there before I even knew about what

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happened to him. But you know, I rode horses when

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I was a kid, and I would always look at

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that tree line and think that Native Americans were in

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there watching me or something, because we Native Americans used

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to battle on those grounds, you know. But I don't

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think it was Native American spirits that were looking at me.

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I think it might have been something else, you know,

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I don't know sure.

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So you said, there's same same property.

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It not is what I saw in Spokane. This this

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is a different property where just you know, there's just

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a lot of high strangeness in Washington State in general

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and Idaho.

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So yeah, very interesting. I mean, you're right, it did

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start right off the bat for you. But you're free

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to definitely let's let's continue with with what happens next.

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Yeah. So, and I mean I think that just kind

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of opened me up to things. You know, I just

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think that I knew it probably traumatized me greatly. It's

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more than anything. And I just I just want to

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put that out there that you know, people that are

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running around looking for bigfoot situations and things like that,

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they're unclean. I don't believe they're clean spirits. They don't

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seem to you know, experience you know, joy or you know,

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love or you know whatever. I mean, I don't know.

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We don't get that close to them, but they certainly

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do like to instill fear upon you and terror, and

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they seem to have a little bit of jealousy too,

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but I'll get into that. They seem to compete or

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have a little bit of ego, and to me, that's

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just you know, those are all those wrong emotions that

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you know, that seems to be what they function on.

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And so I just don't think that they're I don't

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think they're I don't think they're beneficial to humans. I

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think we spend way too much time thinking about them,

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and I think people pursue them. Right now, there's they're

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kind of a novelty. People make money off of it.

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But if you truly are experiencing them like how I

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experience them, and they play games, they manipulate and I'll

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get into that, but they can make you sick like

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I've been sick. I have been sick for days after

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being out in the woods with my dogs after having

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one of them call out my dog's name, you know,

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or something like that. And I've been around them hearing

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the weird noises and stuff, you know, like I'll get

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sick after that, and that's just not good. It's not

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good for you. But so just moving on and I'll

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try not to. But there's been some other weirdness that

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I've experienced, but I'll try to move forward. When I

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moved to Oklahoma, I lived for a couple of years

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in Tulsa Broken Arrow, and I would run to the

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like the come and go or the gas station in

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the morning to exercise, and then I would run back

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and I would have to run through these fields. And

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this one field had a hay the round hay bills,

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and it also had like a culvert area in there,

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and then there was a golf course close to it.

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But sometimes when I would come home, I would just

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know there, like there was a dark thing that was

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standing by that that hey bill, and I would never

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look straight at it, you know. I kind of like

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knew not to do that from the time I was

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a little little one and that happened. I knew not

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to look because I didn't want to know. I didn't

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want to know what I was looking at, and I

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would just go by. But then there was some violent

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tree shake that was going on in the mornings, and

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so then I quit going at dark. I'd wait till

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the light came out and so that there was more

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humans around. Because one time I had gone around, I

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had routed around. I wanted to extend how far I

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was running. I was probably late thirties, early forties, I

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guess around the time, and just trying to get more exercise.

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So I extended my route and I've smelt the smell

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got the formidable weirdness, weird feeling, you know, whatever it was.

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I knew that the tree shaking, I hadn't invested bigfoot

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wasn't quite what it is now right now, there's kind

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of a hysteria on it, but it was more on

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the down low. You didn't really talk about it. But

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I knew that there was something like that, you know,

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I mean just because I had experienced it early in life.

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And sometimes there's things that just aren't explainable. And so

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I remember one time on my way back, I saw

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a print. It was a huge, huge, bare print, and

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it was in the mud because that was a field

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that they had been, you know, obviously there was some

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Timothy Hay or something they had planted in it. Otherwise

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it wouldn't have had bells of Hay in it, but

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it had rained, and there was this big, huge footprint.

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And then I looked around and there was no other footprints.

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And so me not knowing like how it goes. I mean,

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I knew what I saw when I was little, but

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I didn't know that they can just have a print

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and then go away, like you can see just one

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print and then there's no prints, no other prints, and

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that's what I saw. I saw one print and then

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there was no other prince, and so I discounted it

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because I thought, well, there's no other print, so that's

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not a big foot. So I'll check that off. And

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I mean, now hearing other people say yeah, there was

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just one print and then it's like it dissipated or

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went away, now I would know like, oh, well, that

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was legitimately a footprint. I mean, that's legitimately a bigfoot,

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but I just kind of discounted it. I moved to

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North Idaho. I had my families from North Idaho Northeast Washington.

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I moved to North Idaho and I started going on

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I'm in a community. It's a small community, and we

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are just surrounded by mountains. I mean there's just hardly

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any flat land at all. And I started going on

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the trail on my bike with my dog, I have

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a German shepherd, and started experiencing really strange stuff. The

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tree the violent tree shaking to where it couldn't just

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be something shaking the trees, like every leaf is shaking.

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It was really weird in broad daylight. Just different stuff

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that I was experiencing. And then there's some real weirdness

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to this area. But I'm going to go into my

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elks story. This happened in twenty nineteen. In twenty twenty,

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My family's well aware of it. My manager at work

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heard about it that morning. The jam that works where

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I worked, had had a situation back when he was five,

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behind one of our famous restaurants here along the river.

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He had gone up to the chicken coop behind their

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house or behind the restaurant because they had a house

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up there and they had a bear hanging that they

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had just gutted and killed and it was hanging in

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the tree. And he said that he watched a big

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foot walk across the chicken it actually upright step over

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the chicken like wire, because it had been out there

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investigating that bear hanging there. And so, and this is

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a common theme. You know, you'll talk to people who

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hunt and they hang, they'll hang different stuff and then

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they'll get slaps on there on their houses and things

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like that. So you know, it's kind of talked about

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amongst certain people that and then you know, maybe maybe

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not others, I don't know, but anyhow, so morning, it

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was in twenty nineteen or twenty twenty, it was December

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or January. It was snowing out. Well, actually I got

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to go to the night before because this is going

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to explain how these things think. They're very, very manipulative.

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So I go out. I've got my dog. She loves

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these tennis pen tennis balls that are like greenish yellow

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that you buy Ace hardware. You open the can, three

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come out, you know, and then I have a ball

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launch And so I launched the ball down the hill

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because then she has to run up the hill and

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she gets more exercise out of it quickly, so you know,

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I'm kind of make her do more work, right, So

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I'm doing the ball launching. This is like, oh, probably

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about six o'clock at night, maybe earlier. I guess it

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would be dark. So it was earlier because it was

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that time of year. So I don't know it was

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it was. It was the night before, but it wasn't

457
00:26:55.279 --> 00:26:58.640
dark out. The herd had come in. The elk herd

458
00:26:58.720 --> 00:27:03.400
had come. They come across from the north, they cross

459
00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:05.680
the highway and they come up and then they go

460
00:27:05.839 --> 00:27:10.079
up onto the southern mountains and so they're just very

461
00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:12.880
it's very common to see them. You know, they'll they'll

462
00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:16.200
migrate over, but they're they're just really doing their like

463
00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:20.559
they're sticking together, the cows and the calves. So as

464
00:27:20.599 --> 00:27:24.240
these were first year calves and they were all following

465
00:27:24.279 --> 00:27:28.440
their moms. And there's like different tiers levels of ground

466
00:27:28.599 --> 00:27:31.480
that they go on, and they follow these little wildlife trails,

467
00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:33.519
you know, and you can watch them where I'm at,

468
00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:35.000
and I don't want to stay where I'm at because

469
00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:36.720
I've been going there a long time and I don't

470
00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:39.519
want to I just don't want to call it out.

471
00:27:39.559 --> 00:27:42.720
But anyways, so they cross over in front of me

472
00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:46.920
and I'm sitting there throwing this launching this ball with

473
00:27:46.960 --> 00:27:49.640
my dog and I'm yelling at her and not not mean,

474
00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:53.440
but you know, we're having a good time. And the

475
00:27:53.480 --> 00:27:59.240
cows turn with their antenna ears, you know that you

476
00:27:59.240 --> 00:28:00.640
could tell their face and you know, they got their

477
00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:02.400
ears out there, just kind of curious as to what

478
00:28:02.440 --> 00:28:04.519
the heck we're doing because that dog keeps running after

479
00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:07.440
the ball and running up the hill and it was

480
00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:10.240
kind of entertaining. Well, they're babies. Two of the babies

481
00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:14.160
start jumping around and playing. I mean, it was almost

482
00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:16.319
like Rich and Rudolph and Reindeer gave it it was

483
00:28:16.359 --> 00:28:20.200
so cute, you know, because the dog was jumping around

484
00:28:20.559 --> 00:28:24.079
and excited, and so the little calves. It was they

485
00:28:24.119 --> 00:28:26.000
were far away, but they could still see and I

486
00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:28.039
could see them and they're jumping around. I thought, that

487
00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:32.559
is the most adorable thing ever, you know, because I

488
00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:36.160
had incited like this joyful play in them, or I hadn't,

489
00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:39.079
my dog had, but you know, us, we together had

490
00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:42.200
done that, and so I thought, wow, what a memory.

491
00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:44.759
So I posted on social media, you know, because it

492
00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:46.759
was so exciting for me. I was like, oh, these

493
00:28:46.759 --> 00:28:49.880
calves were playing. It was so cute, you know, and

494
00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:54.519
just that they had responded like that. And then the

495
00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:56.960
next morning I went out because I wanted I had

496
00:28:56.960 --> 00:28:59.240
to go to work, and I wanted to take her

497
00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:02.480
out because she was home all day long, and I

498
00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:05.599
took her out early. It was about seven am, and

499
00:29:05.640 --> 00:29:12.160
I hear this cow elk screaming, and she's to my north. Well,

500
00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:15.720
these cows last the night before had been to my

501
00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:17.920
south because they had crossed up and over the road.

502
00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:22.720
So this cow elk is just bellowing. She's screaming her

503
00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:25.839
head off, and they only do that if something's taken

504
00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:29.559
their baby, like she was. She wouldn't shut up. It

505
00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:33.480
was super loud. The other cows had crossed over, and

506
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:37.279
they were doing it quickly, so they weren't like casually walking.

507
00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:39.400
So there was something down there and I thought it

508
00:29:39.480 --> 00:29:43.240
might be a coyote or something, you know, and I

509
00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:45.480
didn't know, but it was kind of disturbing because they

510
00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:48.920
had just been playing and I didn't know if it

511
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:50.759
was one of those cows or not. You know, not

512
00:29:50.839 --> 00:29:52.559
to get too attached or anything, but you know, that

513
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:57.039
would have been a bummer. Anyways, So I'm sitting there

514
00:29:57.079 --> 00:29:59.359
and I'm watching. I'm trying to see where the cow

515
00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:03.200
is screaming from, and I couldn't see it. But then

516
00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:07.799
there's these two big hills, and then there's a bridge

517
00:30:08.279 --> 00:30:14.920
that's on a trail, and this upright figure walks right

518
00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:18.799
across that bridge in between the two hills. And this is,

519
00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:22.000
you know, pretty far away. It's about maybe an eighth

520
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:23.599
of a mile, maybe a quarter of a mile. I

521
00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:26.880
can't really measure it. I've shown my like kids and

522
00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:30.200
stuff and where it's at and on a map and stuff,

523
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:33.240
but I can't really measure it. But it's close enough

524
00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:36.920
to where I could see an upright figure walk across.

525
00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:39.000
I couldn't distinguish if it was a man or not.

526
00:30:39.039 --> 00:30:43.240
But it was a really tall, upright thing.

527
00:30:43.680 --> 00:30:46.480
Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages?

528
00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:04.480
And in the back of my mind, I thought, where's

529
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:07.839
the baby calf? It wasn't holding it, so it was

530
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:10.079
not a bigfoot. I don't know why I thought that.

531
00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:12.200
I don't even know why I thought it was a bigfoot,

532
00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:16.640
probably because she's screaming her head off and why would

533
00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:19.119
there be a human so close to her, because it

534
00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:21.359
was coming from that area, and I was like, this

535
00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:24.480
is so weird, this is so bizarre. I didn't see

536
00:31:24.519 --> 00:31:27.160
clothes on it because it crossed over that so quickly.

537
00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:32.279
But I couldn't get a gauge on I don't know,

538
00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:36.160
like it was right beyond my it wasn't close enough

539
00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:37.799
to me to where I could get a gauge, And

540
00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:40.440
it went so quickly that I couldn't figure out what

541
00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:43.240
it was, but I knew that it was big, and

542
00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:47.000
so I got in my car and with my dog

543
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:50.839
and I drove down and through the field where you

544
00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:54.599
would have to see that person walking, and it's for

545
00:31:54.640 --> 00:31:57.119
like half a mile and then half a mile the

546
00:31:57.160 --> 00:31:59.960
other way. There's no way in the amount of time

547
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:04.480
that I raced down there that that person could be gone.

548
00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:06.799
Within that period of time. You would still see them

549
00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:10.359
walking into town or away from town either way. Right,

550
00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:12.920
I was outside of town, but you would have to

551
00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:14.880
see them on that trail because that trail goes for

552
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:19.000
miles and it's open. And so I went down there

553
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:24.160
and I crept down to the bank, and at that point,

554
00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:26.519
I'm not thinking it's bigfoot. I'm thinking I just need

555
00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:28.599
to see a guy. I just need to see a person.

556
00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:32.119
And I'm with my dog and there's no one there,

557
00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:35.039
and I go and I look for any footprints. There's

558
00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:38.599
nothing there. There was nothing there. It was snowing, there

559
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:43.240
was snow out, so there should be prints unless he

560
00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:46.799
was had stopped and hid up somewhere. I mean, you

561
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:49.039
just you would see him. There was a I could

562
00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:51.519
see back down to the bridge that he was on,

563
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:54.960
but there was no print. So something weird was going on.

564
00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:59.279
And so I went back up towards my car because

565
00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:01.440
I'm trying to take this in because you know, when

566
00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:03.319
something like this happens, you're kind of you got you

567
00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:07.400
have cognitive dissonance. You're like, Okay, don't overthink this. This

568
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:09.799
is like what is this? Like? You know what I mean,

569
00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:13.319
It's just it was weird all of its sudden. I

570
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:18.880
see this elk come running at me from two hills away.

571
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:23.440
She comes barreling towards me, and then she disappears. Well

572
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:26.000
that's because she went down. And then she came up

573
00:33:26.039 --> 00:33:28.720
the other hill closer to me, and she's coming right

574
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:31.920
at me, and she gets to be about fifty feet

575
00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:34.759
away from me. I can see the steam in her nostrils.

576
00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:39.119
I'm all we have is like some weeds between us,

577
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:41.119
but they have no leaves on them, so like they're

578
00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:46.440
basically just sticks. I have nothing to protect myself, and

579
00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:49.119
my dog's not chasing her, and I don't understand what's

580
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:53.000
going on, right, I don't understand, Like I don't want

581
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:56.240
my dog to chase her, but I'm like going to

582
00:33:56.319 --> 00:34:00.920
get trampled. And so then in my mind I'm thinking, okay,

583
00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:04.559
is this a bull? And then I'm like, wait, bulls

584
00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:09.880
don't lose their antlers until like April. This is December, January,

585
00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:11.960
whatever it was. It was winter, and so I'm like,

586
00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:15.760
this is a cow. And so she looks, she looks

587
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:18.280
at me. She just keeps staring at me, staring at me,

588
00:34:18.360 --> 00:34:21.039
trying to like assess who I was or what I was.

589
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:24.679
And then she looks back at my dog behind me,

590
00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:30.800
and then she turns back and chases off to the

591
00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:35.880
to the south, and just and just like, she shoots

592
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:39.800
over to the to the south, not where she had

593
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:41.679
come from, but where the other ones were going. She

594
00:34:41.719 --> 00:34:44.679
was probably gonna meet up with them or whatever. And

595
00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:47.760
I'm just sitting there scratching my head like I almost died.

596
00:34:48.039 --> 00:34:49.800
She almost trampled me. And then I thought, why would

597
00:34:49.880 --> 00:34:54.239
she trample me? Why was she after me? Why did

598
00:34:54.280 --> 00:34:56.880
she see an upright person walking and come after me?

599
00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:01.440
What grabbed your baby? And I mean, this is all true.

600
00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:03.679
I would take a light detector. I swear to you,

601
00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:05.519
this is all true. This all happened, and she was

602
00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:10.639
after me. But and I saw an upright thing walk

603
00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:13.760
across the bridge, but I never saw the calf. But

604
00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:16.239
I will say this, and I have video of this.

605
00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:21.719
Every year or thereafter, a cow will stand in that place,

606
00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:24.599
right around there, waiting for a baby, like babies are

607
00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:27.840
getting taken, like I don't know if it's you know,

608
00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:29.800
there's coyotes and there's bear there too, you know what

609
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:35.639
I mean. But it was a mother that her baby

610
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:38.519
had gotten taken from her. And now this is going

611
00:35:38.599 --> 00:35:42.719
to sound really weird, but I went to where Can.

612
00:35:42.760 --> 00:35:44.400
I told my manager about it, and he was like,

613
00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:46.920
you got really lucky, and I know what that sounds like.

614
00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:48.760
I had to rescue a baby calf that was cut,

615
00:35:48.760 --> 00:35:50.400
you know, because they hunt around here. This is just

616
00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:53.320
kind of the way it is. And he goes, you

617
00:35:53.320 --> 00:35:55.480
were really fortunate to see that, you know, and he

618
00:35:55.960 --> 00:36:01.400
believed me, I think, but he was nice about it.

619
00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:04.039
But other people at work that had seen things like

620
00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:07.280
this also came up with their stories, like the one

621
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:10.199
that I told you that they hung a bear and

622
00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:11.800
he had seen it, you know what I mean. So

623
00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:16.280
I'm not embarrassed to tell the story. The freakiest part

624
00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:18.440
about it is what's the point of it, right, Well,

625
00:36:18.519 --> 00:36:21.159
the point of it that bigfoot had seen me the

626
00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:26.440
night before and had seen those babies celebrating. And I

627
00:36:26.599 --> 00:36:29.760
swear to you, I just got this feeling as soon

628
00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:32.760
as all this went down, that that bigfoot was punishing

629
00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:35.920
me because I cared.

630
00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:40.360
H That's really interesting.

631
00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:45.519
And that's the part, you know, isn't that weird.

632
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:49.519
That it is a very that's unlike anything I've ever heard.

633
00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:54.280
To be honest, you're saying multiple other people have experienced

634
00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:56.000
similar things in the same area.

635
00:36:56.920 --> 00:37:02.039
Well, not like that, but they've seen them, you know,

636
00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:06.639
like they've seen them up closer. But yes, they've they're

637
00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:10.159
you know, and I mean out where I am. After that,

638
00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:14.639
there was I have pictures of it, and I posted

639
00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:16.840
on Facebook because I wanted to know about some of

640
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:19.920
the local hikers. They go hiking everywhere, whant to see

641
00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:22.000
if they'd ever seen these bones. They were laid out.

642
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:27.679
There was moose, el deer all lined up like different

643
00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:31.800
ages of bones. I have the pictures. I mean, I

644
00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:34.679
have receipts for stuff. Right when I experienced stuff, I

645
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:38.360
take pictures. I have Like a moose liver was left

646
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:41.400
for me last year. I called fishing game because it

647
00:37:41.400 --> 00:37:43.360
would have been approaching incident. It was in the summer.

648
00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:48.119
They're like, we don't know, like why just deliver you

649
00:37:48.119 --> 00:37:49.960
know what I mean? It was left where my car parked.

650
00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:54.960
Yes, I don't get that.

651
00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:58.559
Why you're telling me totally man. I mean, it wasn't

652
00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:02.840
a dumping. It wasn't any thing dumping my dogs. This

653
00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:05.840
sounds kind of silly, but my dog's balls disappear the

654
00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:08.599
tennis balls, and they'll pop up in the same place,

655
00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:15.039
like just weird mind games, like really weird mind games.

656
00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:17.880
And I was hiking one day and I have I

657
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:22.679
have the the text message my roommate. I had taken

658
00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:24.639
her out like a couple of days before to where

659
00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:27.519
I was hiking, and this is around where this all

660
00:38:27.559 --> 00:38:30.559
went on, you know, with this with this cow elp,

661
00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:36.360
and I took my dog. I had a little i'd

662
00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:38.440
have a little shit so and the German shepherd at

663
00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:40.239
this time, because I'd gotten the shit to my dad,

664
00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:45.599
brought her to me as a rescue. And anyways, so

665
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:49.679
I'm hiking. Three days I took her hiking, the roommate,

666
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:54.639
and then three days later I went hiking alone. And

667
00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:57.400
I remember I took a picture of this thing and

668
00:38:57.440 --> 00:38:59.719
I said, was this there when we were hiking? And

669
00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:02.119
she's like, yeah, that was there. And then we went

670
00:39:02.199 --> 00:39:07.320
up this hill towards the mountain and I hear this.

671
00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:10.239
I don't want to say my dog's name because people

672
00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:14.280
know me, but it's a two syllable name and it's

673
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:20.159
very unique. It's German. And I hear that, and then

674
00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:24.199
my dog did too, and it was twice. We hear

675
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:28.960
this twice, and it's in my roommate's voice, and I'm like, gosh,

676
00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:30.599
she came out here. I thought I was going to

677
00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:32.480
have privacy. You know. I'm kind of being kind of

678
00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:36.280
like a brat about it, right because I'm thinking, ah,

679
00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:37.920
she followed me out here. I thought she was going

680
00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:39.400
down by the river. I wanted some time. No, you

681
00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:42.119
know what I mean. She knows my hike spot and

682
00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:46.199
she's coming without, you know. And so I texted her,

683
00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:49.000
I said, are you here? She goes, No, I'm taking

684
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:52.000
a shower. I'm back at the house. And I said,

685
00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:55.639
I just heard you yell, and I have the text messages.

686
00:39:56.199 --> 00:40:01.400
I said, I heard you yell my dog's name, you know.

687
00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:03.920
And I said her name, and she goes. I believe you,

688
00:40:04.039 --> 00:40:06.199
she goes, but I swear to you, he goes. I

689
00:40:06.280 --> 00:40:07.760
was down at the river. Look, these are the pictures.

690
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:09.039
I took them here at the house right now. She

691
00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:12.719
took a picture, you know, and I was like, oh

692
00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:17.159
my gosh. My dog even heard it and perked up

693
00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:19.440
and was like we were confused as to what to

694
00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:22.000
do next. We thought it was her. Her name was Kristin.

695
00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:25.280
I thought it was Kristin because it was in her

696
00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:31.800
voice and there was nobody around, do you know what

697
00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:32.199
I mean.

698
00:40:33.199 --> 00:40:38.199
Yeah, that's extremely strange and very unsettling. Are there a

699
00:40:38.199 --> 00:40:44.280
lot of like missing person cases in that area? Yeah, okay,

700
00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:48.039
and probably we don't want to go into names for

701
00:40:48.280 --> 00:40:50.280
respect and also for privacy.

702
00:40:50.440 --> 00:40:54.719
Yeah. Yeah, there's just high weirdness. You know, there's some

703
00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:57.760
high weirdness, and then other people who are aren't connected

704
00:40:57.800 --> 00:41:00.760
to it, or who don't aren't sensitive to it, would

705
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:03.679
say no, you know, because they don't get out or

706
00:41:03.719 --> 00:41:07.199
they don't you know. I mean, it's just anywhere you go,

707
00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:10.800
there is especially high weirdness here. I think because of

708
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:13.800
the mountains that would be the correlation. I'd say there's

709
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:17.079
more high weirdness here than there was where I grew up,

710
00:41:18.199 --> 00:41:20.679
way more. I mean, this is like a mecca. But

711
00:41:20.719 --> 00:41:24.519
I think it's connected to the Elk. I don't think

712
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:26.639
it's anything else other than the Elk. And I have

713
00:41:26.679 --> 00:41:33.559
a theory. They really want to manage animals, they really do. Yeah,

714
00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:36.280
they think they are in charge, and you know, I

715
00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:39.199
just believe that the man was given dominion over all

716
00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:42.599
the creatures. I think they are a competition. We're competition

717
00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:45.920
for that. And I don't even think they use the

718
00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:48.800
same parts of the animal that we do. I mean,

719
00:41:48.800 --> 00:41:50.920
it's really not competition. I think it has to do

720
00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:54.599
with different degrees of glory. I think it has something

721
00:41:54.599 --> 00:41:57.159
to do with things that are ancient, things that are

722
00:41:57.960 --> 00:42:00.760
beyond us that we don't know. I think it keeps

723
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:03.239
our eyes on them. When we chase after them or

724
00:42:03.719 --> 00:42:06.039
we focus on them, we're glorifying them, and that's what

725
00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:09.519
they're looking for. I think that they know ways that

726
00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:13.719
we don't. I don't think they're, you know, like necessarily

727
00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:16.400
all evil. You'll hear about some savings. Some you know,

728
00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:20.000
that's fine and dandy. Obviously they're able to procreate, but

729
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:24.840
I don't know that they Some people say that they

730
00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:27.679
see them and they look like they've lived forever. I

731
00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:31.039
don't know that they really can die. I don't know,

732
00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:33.440
And I don't know that they're all the way here either,

733
00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:38.559
But I know that they have supernatural gifts that I know.

734
00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:41.360
They've been around for a while, and I know that

735
00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:46.519
like in the LDS or Mormon religion, and it's not

736
00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:50.760
talked about, but some of the apostles have seen them

737
00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:54.159
and talked about them, the early pioneers. They've written, it's

738
00:42:54.199 --> 00:43:00.119
in you know, history, and so it's like, I mean,

739
00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:06.280
one occasion was like eighteen thirty five, you know. And

740
00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:08.000
I don't really want to get too much into that

741
00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:11.079
because I'm not trying to say anything about that. I'm

742
00:43:11.119 --> 00:43:15.320
just saying that there's things that have been happening for

743
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:19.719
a long time. It's not just a recent thing, right.

744
00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:23.239
Oh absolutely. And I mean it's not just you know,

745
00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:28.000
in the Mormon writings. I mean there's multiple accounts in

746
00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:32.199
that time period, the eighteen hundreds of wild Man's sightings

747
00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:36.599
all over the country. It's incredible.

748
00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:44.079
I know, yeah it is. But I think that I

749
00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:49.760
think that I don't know, they just master things. But

750
00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:52.280
I feel protected, like I know who I am. I

751
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:54.079
know I'm like a child of God. I know that,

752
00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:55.880
you know what I mean, I know where I come from.

753
00:43:56.320 --> 00:43:58.599
I know I do have dominion over animals. I'm not

754
00:43:58.679 --> 00:44:05.199
out you know, hunting elk right now, like alone, you know,

755
00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:09.880
I'm not. I'm not in fear, but I haven't camped

756
00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:11.159
for a long time.

757
00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:12.039
You know.

758
00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:16.559
It does kind of keep me. I'm careful, and I

759
00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:19.840
have an underwater whistle that I blow. When they do

760
00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:22.400
the tree knocks, I'll notice there's a correlation to when

761
00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:25.039
they flush out deer like I would. I heard a

762
00:44:25.079 --> 00:44:27.360
couple of years. Maybe it was a last year or

763
00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:31.800
the year before, I heard a tree knock when I

764
00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:36.199
pulled up to take my dogs out and it was one,

765
00:44:36.239 --> 00:44:40.039
two and then three, and then I thought, okay, started

766
00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:41.480
walking back to my car. I was like, I'm not

767
00:44:41.519 --> 00:44:44.639
doing that well obviously right, And then I look up

768
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:47.840
and this hurd a deer got flushed out of the

769
00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:50.679
woods on the other side, and then they started running

770
00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:53.079
back up into the woods and they got flushed out again.

771
00:44:53.320 --> 00:44:54.960
And I'm like, are you kidding me?

772
00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:58.400
Like you're hearing tree knocks trade outside your house?

773
00:44:59.360 --> 00:45:04.960
No, this is just I went. It's about three miles away.

774
00:45:05.400 --> 00:45:09.400
It's like two ridges over. Yeah, because I take my

775
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:13.159
dog somewhere else to go running where we're not because

776
00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:16.400
I'm in a neighborhood here, I'm kind of by I'm

777
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:19.079
right outside a mountain. I'm looking at a mountain right now.

778
00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:22.079
But there's some neighbors, you know what I mean. So

779
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:27.079
I don't have any situations around my house to speak of.

780
00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:30.119
I know the neighbors said that she saw someone in

781
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:32.159
the garbage that was really big, with a big hood

782
00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:35.760
that ran really flat, and I didn't ask any question.

783
00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:38.119
But other than that, you know what I mean, there's

784
00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:40.000
just and I have chickens and stuff.

785
00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:42.320
Like that, big for society, who will be right back

786
00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:43.400
after these messages.

787
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:01.920
So I don't even you know, I don't have any

788
00:46:01.960 --> 00:46:08.360
issues with them coming here. I don't have those issues.

789
00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:10.719
And I don't know, you know. I mean, I don't

790
00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:13.559
even want to really talk because I don't want to.

791
00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:16.519
I don't want to conjure anything up.

792
00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:20.199
No, I get you, you know, I get that feeling

793
00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:22.239
where it's like you want to be careful what you

794
00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:26.159
talk about. The area where you heard the tree knocks.

795
00:46:26.199 --> 00:46:28.920
Do you ever hear any other strange sounds out there

796
00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:29.800
that don't belong?

797
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:33.519
Or yes, okay, so here's something else and this I

798
00:46:33.559 --> 00:46:39.320
can't put together. So and oh I have video too

799
00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:42.719
where I started to record because I had you. And

800
00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:45.000
I came home and called my sister of Florida and said,

801
00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:46.639
oh my gosh, listen to this. She goes, I can

802
00:46:46.679 --> 00:46:50.920
hear it. So what happened was I went up on

803
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:53.960
this hill and there's this activity area. I don't want

804
00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:55.760
to name it out too much. But there's this activity

805
00:46:55.840 --> 00:46:58.760
area which is not very populated because it's not very popular.

806
00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:01.280
There's other activity areas you know, people can go to.

807
00:47:01.400 --> 00:47:04.480
But anyhow, no one was out there. I took my

808
00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:07.679
dogs and I was ball launching and my dog sometimes

809
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:10.199
she winds up, the German shepherd. She gets excited over

810
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:13.320
the balls like a coonhound would over a raccoon or something.

811
00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:17.599
It just is ridiculous, right, but she gets really excited

812
00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:20.199
and so she starts doing that, you know, that sort

813
00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:23.039
of thing. But it's loud. So she was doing that

814
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:25.360
and then until I released the ball and she can

815
00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:28.599
go run because when she's running, she can't scream anymore, right,

816
00:47:29.079 --> 00:47:32.000
so then she goes and runs. Well, she did that

817
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:35.400
a couple times, and right behind us in the woodline,

818
00:47:35.679 --> 00:47:37.800
and it wasn't very far away. It was maybe twenty

819
00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:45.559
feet into the woodline, I heard this electronic like a backup,

820
00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:50.159
like a trailer, you know what I mean, just a

821
00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:55.000
weird out of this world. It wasn't really a trailer backup.

822
00:47:55.039 --> 00:47:57.360
It wasn't mechanical, but it kind of sounded like it.

823
00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:01.320
But it was loud, okay, And I thought, what is

824
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:04.760
that and it would it would get loud and then dissipate,

825
00:48:05.159 --> 00:48:09.360
and then get loud and then dissipate. And then I

826
00:48:09.400 --> 00:48:18.199
heard like little cries, you know, like I was tempted

827
00:48:18.239 --> 00:48:20.639
to go in and check on what it was, and

828
00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:23.360
I did not, and instead I turned on my phone

829
00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:27.880
and started recording. And I do have some of those cries.

830
00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:32.480
And you have that recorded. So were they like like

831
00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:33.639
baby cries.

832
00:48:33.480 --> 00:48:36.360
Or At first I thought it sounded like baby cries,

833
00:48:36.400 --> 00:48:39.239
but then I thought maybe it was an animal, like

834
00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:43.079
a calf or something. So I thought maybe it was

835
00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:49.639
an animal that was being asphyxiated. And I thought, but gosh,

836
00:48:49.519 --> 00:48:56.199
why that timing. Why did that weird electronic noise spark

837
00:48:56.320 --> 00:49:00.239
up when my dog was making that weird noise. It's

838
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:04.119
like it got attracted to it and then started doing

839
00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:07.559
its thing. It was weird, really weird, And I do

840
00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:10.800
have it on I have a recording and it has

841
00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:13.199
the little cries. You can you can hear them. I mean,

842
00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:16.320
it's not loud like being there right, but you can

843
00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:20.880
still hear it. And towards the end it kind of

844
00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:24.719
sounded like maybe it was a baby deer or a

845
00:49:26.239 --> 00:49:32.280
or a full grown one. But I went back in there. Huh,

846
00:49:33.039 --> 00:49:37.000
I don't know why. A few weeks later, there was

847
00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:43.239
a big elk bone just laying right out in the

848
00:49:43.280 --> 00:49:48.119
open where it shouldn't be. And I've took that like

849
00:49:48.159 --> 00:49:50.960
as a warning, you know what I mean. But there

850
00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:56.639
was no dead elk carcass or carry on inside or anything.

851
00:49:56.760 --> 00:50:00.440
So another time I went out in the same area,

852
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:03.920
I show up. It's in the afternoon, I get my

853
00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:06.360
dogs out, and all of a sudden, I hear that

854
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:14.199
loud beeping, like electronic, but it wasn't in the woodline.

855
00:50:14.239 --> 00:50:18.239
It was down. It was like, I don't know, it

856
00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:23.159
was super loud, like almost like an alarm, like almost

857
00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:27.039
like and this is going to sound a little bit crazy,

858
00:50:27.119 --> 00:50:29.480
but you know that one thing that they show like

859
00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:33.039
they say that they see and it's like this tall

860
00:50:33.159 --> 00:50:35.440
thing that they call like radiohead or something like that.

861
00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:40.559
Oh yeah, yep, that it sounded like that.

862
00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:41.280
Really.

863
00:50:41.800 --> 00:50:43.400
I got into my car and left.

864
00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:46.159
Yes, oh man, it was.

865
00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:51.000
It was a electronic loud alarm sound and no one

866
00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:56.079
was around, and I'm just like, this is nuts. And

867
00:50:56.119 --> 00:50:59.360
there was a vibration, you could feel a vibration, but

868
00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:01.960
it was just there was no reason for it. Because

869
00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:05.760
there's no alarms there. There's nothing there.

870
00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:10.000
When you're saying you feel a vibration, can you so

871
00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:13.320
you were feeling it like like it was affecting you

872
00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:15.800
or can you describe a little bit more of what

873
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:16.519
you mean by that.

874
00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:23.639
So the noise was loud, but it resonated like a vibration, Okay,

875
00:51:24.440 --> 00:51:29.920
So it felt you could feel a vibration like like physically,

876
00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:33.639
I don't remember physically putting my hand on anything and

877
00:51:33.639 --> 00:51:37.239
feeling a vibration, but you could feel that it was

878
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:40.719
a vibration somehow. I don't know how to explain it,

879
00:51:41.440 --> 00:51:42.960
just that it was a vibration.

880
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:45.880
Did your emotional state change it all during that time?

881
00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:50.679
I have what happens when stuff like that happens is

882
00:51:50.719 --> 00:51:54.760
I do the flight yep, And so I get mad

883
00:51:55.360 --> 00:51:59.519
and do the flight okay. And so when that happens,

884
00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:02.239
what what I will say happens is I get sick,

885
00:52:03.360 --> 00:52:06.960
but my emotions don't like I don't want to I

886
00:52:06.960 --> 00:52:10.320
don't want to go right then investigate because I know

887
00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:14.239
that it's something, probably bad, something Look you know what

888
00:52:14.280 --> 00:52:16.840
I mean, And I know that it's a warning to me,

889
00:52:18.199 --> 00:52:22.440
just like I feel like anytime i've dealt with this stuff.

890
00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:25.440
Even with that cow elk with the calf, it's like

891
00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:29.559
always a warning. And here's one more thing I have

892
00:52:29.639 --> 00:52:34.599
to tell you. So on that same trail, right after

893
00:52:34.639 --> 00:52:38.519
that cow elk sing happened, my dogs and I will

894
00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:40.400
go down this trail and this is where I found

895
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:43.559
this old pickaxe. It was just awesome. I still have it.

896
00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:48.840
But we go down this really steep trail and there's

897
00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:51.199
no trees where we go. You have to go up

898
00:52:51.239 --> 00:52:54.000
the mountain up on top because it's just covered with

899
00:52:54.800 --> 00:52:58.760
like there's old mining stuff, you know, like not stuff,

900
00:52:58.800 --> 00:53:03.719
but like the ground is not there's no trees right

901
00:53:04.599 --> 00:53:06.480
until you get up on top, and then there's trees

902
00:53:06.519 --> 00:53:11.960
everywhere galore. Right. So I went in one day and

903
00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:15.280
this tree that was about ten foot twelve foot tall

904
00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:20.320
was laying right there. It had been ripped off and

905
00:53:20.360 --> 00:53:23.840
it probably had about, I don't know, eight inch ten

906
00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:31.159
inch circumference, healthy tree, perfectly healthy. I have pictures, And

907
00:53:31.199 --> 00:53:34.599
I thought, what broke that off and threw it here?

908
00:53:34.760 --> 00:53:38.199
Because you can't, I mean, you have to bring it there.

909
00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:40.320
And why is it right here where I walk? And

910
00:53:40.320 --> 00:53:45.280
why is it broke off? It wasn't you know it

911
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:48.480
wasn't axed or chainsawed, you know what I mean. It

912
00:53:48.519 --> 00:53:54.239
wasn't sod so it was ripped and the bark was

913
00:53:55.199 --> 00:53:59.119
broken around it. It was a brand new tree, so

914
00:53:59.159 --> 00:54:03.639
it's like something through it there like stayed away from here,

915
00:54:04.199 --> 00:54:06.639
you know what I mean. It's right right where we go.

916
00:54:06.760 --> 00:54:08.079
We are always right there.

917
00:54:08.639 --> 00:54:14.039
Absolutely, that one area sounds extremely weird. I don't know

918
00:54:14.199 --> 00:54:19.119
how often I would go there by myself, to be honest. No,

919
00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:23.320
there's just some really really weird stuff that you're experiencing

920
00:54:23.519 --> 00:54:28.159
in whatever this one area is. And you said earlier

921
00:54:28.199 --> 00:54:33.199
that this this town has a lot of high strangeness

922
00:54:33.199 --> 00:54:37.760
in it. So is there other stuff going on besides Bigfoot?

923
00:54:42.760 --> 00:54:45.039
And if you don't want to get into it, I

924
00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:46.920
totally respect that and we can move on.

925
00:54:47.039 --> 00:54:52.440
There's a lot of suicides, okay, gotcha. And one was

926
00:54:52.519 --> 00:54:56.880
just in the woods wow, so oh boy, And it

927
00:54:56.960 --> 00:55:01.079
was a big deal, so just a month ago. Yeah,

928
00:55:01.119 --> 00:55:05.079
so it was a local pastor to hear, but that

929
00:55:05.119 --> 00:55:05.599
I don't think.

930
00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:07.599
I don't tie that to anything. I'm sure his family,

931
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:11.639
you know, so it was. But other than that, there's young,

932
00:55:11.920 --> 00:55:15.000
a lot of young suicides, and I don't want to

933
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:17.679
speak for anyone else, because there was also an incident

934
00:55:17.679 --> 00:55:23.719
which was weird and I think I can't remember his name,

935
00:55:23.719 --> 00:55:26.559
but there was a podcast that was done on this

936
00:55:27.199 --> 00:55:33.199
kid that I know who his mom is, but he

937
00:55:33.440 --> 00:55:39.599
just had called her and then like someone was pursuing

938
00:55:39.679 --> 00:55:42.559
him or something, and then you know, they found him

939
00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:47.239
up on a gould but nobody knows. But then right

940
00:55:47.280 --> 00:55:52.559
before that, there was like two suicides which were really

941
00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:56.079
odd type. So but you know, that just sounds like

942
00:55:56.199 --> 00:55:56.960
it's more like.

943
00:55:57.960 --> 00:56:02.960
Humans, you know, bad behavior, right, maybe if there was

944
00:56:03.039 --> 00:56:05.599
some sort of thing going on that wasn't there's just

945
00:56:05.639 --> 00:56:08.800
a lot of speculation as to whether they were or not,

946
00:56:09.039 --> 00:56:11.480
you know, but I don't know.

947
00:56:11.840 --> 00:56:14.880
I don't know those situations or if there's anything to those,

948
00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:19.039
and I just try to stay away from that because

949
00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:22.079
I think if you get caught up in that, that's

950
00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:25.639
the type of spirit you don't want to be friendly with,

951
00:56:25.719 --> 00:56:27.920
because you know, who needs to be depressed, right.

952
00:56:29.079 --> 00:56:32.280
Yeah, And I get that. Are there also a lot

953
00:56:32.320 --> 00:56:36.039
of like UFO sightings or things like that in the

954
00:56:36.079 --> 00:56:36.679
same area.

955
00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:42.880
There's there's so many mountains, it's you know, there's not

956
00:56:42.920 --> 00:56:46.840
a lot of there's sky, but it's like, I don't know,

957
00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:53.239
I'm not sure. I haven't you know, had any, but

958
00:56:54.199 --> 00:57:00.599
I wouldn't be surprised, you know. But I know when

959
00:57:02.679 --> 00:57:06.119
there was an avalanche and there was a couple of

960
00:57:06.159 --> 00:57:09.519
years ago and there was a doctor who died and

961
00:57:09.559 --> 00:57:12.840
then they had the helicopter go up and rescue, well

962
00:57:13.360 --> 00:57:18.760
didn't rescue, but you know, got recovered the body. And

963
00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:21.719
so there was a big thing that went around, the

964
00:57:21.800 --> 00:57:24.840
coyotes are out, keep your dogs in. They're going crazy,

965
00:57:24.840 --> 00:57:27.679
they're going crazy. And I was listening to them, and

966
00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:31.880
they those were not coyotes, it's all. It wasn't a

967
00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:37.599
like feeble attempt to make coyote howls, but that was

968
00:57:38.800 --> 00:57:42.280
I figured it was something else trying to sound like coyotes.

969
00:57:42.320 --> 00:57:46.039
And they were angry over those helicopters, you know, because

970
00:57:46.079 --> 00:57:49.000
it was right when they were doing that stuff up there.

971
00:57:49.039 --> 00:57:52.480
Was it because the sound of it was much louder.

972
00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:54.559
What were the main things that tipped you off that

973
00:57:54.840 --> 00:57:56.159
it wasn't actually coyotes.

974
00:57:56.599 --> 00:57:59.280
Well, I grew up around coyotes, so I can almost

975
00:57:59.320 --> 00:58:02.400
imitate a kai right like you can call them in.

976
00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:11.119
So but they didn't. It was louder and more they

977
00:58:11.159 --> 00:58:16.559
carried on more like extended out the howl and it

978
00:58:16.599 --> 00:58:20.360
took different like tones. I mean, it just didn't it

979
00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:23.639
didn't sound like it wasn't a coyote. It was like

980
00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:27.119
trying to sound like a kyote, but it didn't. There's

981
00:58:27.159 --> 00:58:29.840
no coyote that ever sounded like that. I've never heard

982
00:58:29.840 --> 00:58:34.039
a coyote make those sounds. At some point they sounded

983
00:58:34.079 --> 00:58:36.280
similar to kyote. And then they would extend it out

984
00:58:36.280 --> 00:58:38.280
and it would go too far, and then it would

985
00:58:38.320 --> 00:58:42.320
change tone, and it's like that's not someone imitated, but

986
00:58:42.360 --> 00:58:44.760
it's too loud to be a person, you see what

987
00:58:44.800 --> 00:58:48.400
I mean. Yeah, it's hard to explain. I did try

988
00:58:48.400 --> 00:58:51.159
to record it out my front window or my front

989
00:58:51.159 --> 00:58:54.280
door because you could hear it, but I couldn't capture it.

990
00:58:54.840 --> 00:59:01.559
So but I did capture those those noises from the

991
00:59:01.880 --> 00:59:04.840
cries in the woodline, and I just think that's really

992
00:59:04.880 --> 00:59:10.239
close to two dogs and a person to be killing

993
00:59:10.320 --> 00:59:12.599
if it was a predator. I mean, what are the

994
00:59:12.679 --> 00:59:15.679
chances it was killing something that was crying out like

995
00:59:15.719 --> 00:59:18.840
that that close to me to where I could record it, you.

996
00:59:18.840 --> 00:59:19.280
Know what I mean?

997
00:59:19.400 --> 00:59:19.559
Right?

998
00:59:19.679 --> 00:59:22.159
Or even you know, another way to look at it is,

999
00:59:22.440 --> 00:59:29.519
you know places like southeast Alaska. They they talk about

1000
00:59:29.559 --> 00:59:32.719
how they hear cries in the woods and it's a

1001
00:59:32.760 --> 00:59:35.920
way that you know, the hairy man is trying to

1002
00:59:36.400 --> 00:59:41.440
lure people into the woods because they're going to see

1003
00:59:43.199 --> 00:59:46.000
see if there's a baby in trouble. And usually this

1004
00:59:46.199 --> 00:59:51.199
is there's like a you know, there's a woman involved.

1005
00:59:51.800 --> 00:59:54.159
Like they often know that if they use this type

1006
00:59:54.159 --> 00:59:56.719
of baby cry, they have a better chance of getting

1007
00:59:56.760 --> 00:59:59.480
them lured into the woods. So it's just that that

1008
00:59:59.559 --> 01:00:02.000
kind of came to mind when I was hearing your

1009
01:00:02.039 --> 01:00:05.000
story as well. Big for society, who will be right

1010
01:00:05.039 --> 01:00:06.360
back after these messages.

1011
01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:26.719
That's good. That's good because my dreams from even before

1012
01:00:26.760 --> 01:00:31.559
this happened are about me rescuing little kids or animals

1013
01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:34.800
and trying to keep them safe. What is that about?

1014
01:00:34.840 --> 01:00:37.760
And then I'm in the woods and these sounds come out,

1015
01:00:37.800 --> 01:00:40.840
and you would think that I would go and rescue them,

1016
01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:44.760
but I don't because I don't trust because I saw

1017
01:00:44.800 --> 01:00:49.159
one when I was, you know, young, and I know

1018
01:00:49.440 --> 01:00:51.719
I know that they're there. I mean I don't know

1019
01:00:51.760 --> 01:00:56.760
what they are. I don't know how dangerous they are.

1020
01:00:56.800 --> 01:01:01.239
I think that they have like a I think there's

1021
01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:05.559
stipulations to their existence. I think that they're not supposed

1022
01:01:05.599 --> 01:01:09.760
to mess with us. I mean that's I truly truly

1023
01:01:09.800 --> 01:01:14.719
believe that. I believe there's various degrees of glory, and

1024
01:01:14.800 --> 01:01:17.920
I believe that, you know, we're here for a purpose,

1025
01:01:18.400 --> 01:01:22.400
they're there for another purpose and our world's collide. But

1026
01:01:22.440 --> 01:01:24.480
they're not supposed to mess with us. But I do

1027
01:01:24.519 --> 01:01:28.440
believe they're jealous of us. And it's obviously not because

1028
01:01:28.440 --> 01:01:32.599
we have wonderful skills, because they outclass us one hundred percent, right,

1029
01:01:32.719 --> 01:01:38.400
But somehow they are always trying to prove that they

1030
01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:40.679
are in charge of the animals, and I don't know

1031
01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:41.719
what that's about.

1032
01:01:41.920 --> 01:01:45.599
It's really interesting viewpoint. I really haven't heard a lot

1033
01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:49.320
on when I've been doing interviews over the last few years,

1034
01:01:49.360 --> 01:01:54.519
so I'm kind of curious to ask you, how is

1035
01:01:54.559 --> 01:01:58.920
it that you view these creatures, like, how would you

1036
01:01:59.000 --> 01:01:59.840
describe what a.

1037
01:02:00.639 --> 01:02:05.559
Then anytime I hear anybody start to get into the hole, Oh,

1038
01:02:05.599 --> 01:02:08.199
they could survive in the wild, and you know, this

1039
01:02:08.239 --> 01:02:10.519
could be their forge for this and they could live there,

1040
01:02:11.119 --> 01:02:13.079
I just want to laugh because I know they're not

1041
01:02:13.159 --> 01:02:17.000
here all the time. They're not like that. I'm not

1042
01:02:17.360 --> 01:02:23.480
they can't bear. They're not They're not like a bear

1043
01:02:24.079 --> 01:02:28.079
or organic. They're not of this earth like we are.

1044
01:02:28.360 --> 01:02:35.119
They're like on a different you know, they're in a

1045
01:02:35.159 --> 01:02:37.920
different place. And I'm not saying they don't manifest physically,

1046
01:02:39.159 --> 01:02:42.679
but I think they've you know, I think we've heard

1047
01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:45.800
enough about them, at least in folklore and also in literature,

1048
01:02:45.800 --> 01:02:49.320
and also in sightings, which isn't folklore, to where we

1049
01:02:49.440 --> 01:02:52.119
know that they do things we don't know how to do.

1050
01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:54.159
But I don't think they're special. I think they want

1051
01:02:54.159 --> 01:02:58.239
to be worshiped, and I think they want to worship

1052
01:02:58.280 --> 01:03:01.199
could be anything. You know, We've got big foot pictures

1053
01:03:01.239 --> 01:03:04.760
and people focus on them and make money.

1054
01:03:04.480 --> 01:03:08.400
Off it, statues in some towns even you know, it's

1055
01:03:08.440 --> 01:03:10.480
it's very interesting to think about that way. You think

1056
01:03:10.519 --> 01:03:12.719
there could be maybe portals involved, or.

1057
01:03:13.960 --> 01:03:18.320
Yeah, whatever that is. There's people that know so much

1058
01:03:18.360 --> 01:03:20.239
more about that. And I think I have an idea,

1059
01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:23.239
but it seems like every time I get into that

1060
01:03:23.480 --> 01:03:27.239
or talk about it, I have like I just I

1061
01:03:27.320 --> 01:03:30.599
go it just it doesn't sit well because I feel

1062
01:03:30.599 --> 01:03:34.880
like I feel like I'm too vulnerable. I don't like

1063
01:03:34.920 --> 01:03:39.000
it to affect my I really I really just like

1064
01:03:39.119 --> 01:03:42.840
to live you know, here and now. Like I find

1065
01:03:42.880 --> 01:03:45.440
pleasure in things like how cute those elk were doing that?

1066
01:03:45.519 --> 01:03:46.760
You know what I mean? Exactly?

1067
01:03:46.840 --> 01:03:50.840
I find pleasure in like, you know, taking care of

1068
01:03:50.840 --> 01:03:52.840
my chickens and the cute stuff they do, my dogs,

1069
01:03:52.840 --> 01:03:54.840
my grandkids, my you know what I mean. There's just

1070
01:03:54.920 --> 01:03:57.360
so much to enjoy in this world. I really do

1071
01:03:57.519 --> 01:04:02.360
enjoy things, absolutely, but whenever I deal with that part

1072
01:04:02.440 --> 01:04:05.199
of things, even from a really young age, I feel

1073
01:04:05.239 --> 01:04:10.840
like they just put a lot of terror and worry

1074
01:04:11.239 --> 01:04:16.320
and stress and just they make you worry. I mean,

1075
01:04:16.360 --> 01:04:18.760
I can't even go out hiking without hearing them call

1076
01:04:18.840 --> 01:04:20.599
my dog's name. You know what I mean? Well, yeah

1077
01:04:20.639 --> 01:04:23.000
I can. They don't call it every time, but or

1078
01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:26.119
a ball disappears, and it's when you least expect expect it,

1079
01:04:26.159 --> 01:04:29.079
and then you get all these balls where you've never been.

1080
01:04:29.639 --> 01:04:32.199
You go picking and there's all the balls in perfect shape,

1081
01:04:32.239 --> 01:04:35.440
and they're your balls. You've been missing them. In fact,

1082
01:04:35.440 --> 01:04:38.960
when I was texting that roommate about hearing her call

1083
01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:41.039
out my dog's name, I said, oh, and I lost

1084
01:04:41.079 --> 01:04:45.039
two balls somehow too. She's like, oh, no, I mean,

1085
01:04:45.119 --> 01:04:49.039
just to just to you know, highlight how often this happens.

1086
01:04:49.039 --> 01:04:51.280
And it's like, oh, well, maybe they go into the

1087
01:04:51.280 --> 01:04:55.960
the high weeds, sherry. Maybe you know, maybe the coyotes

1088
01:04:56.880 --> 01:04:59.440
grab them and you know, I mean mob them around

1089
01:04:59.519 --> 01:05:02.280
and put them together in one place. I don't know,

1090
01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:06.000
you know, maybe homeless people that are coming into the

1091
01:05:06.039 --> 01:05:08.119
woods now, you know, I mean more and more, maybe

1092
01:05:08.119 --> 01:05:10.880
they're doing some I don't know, but I do know

1093
01:05:11.000 --> 01:05:14.800
that that there was a message to me with that,

1094
01:05:15.079 --> 01:05:18.920
with that elk, And there's been several messages to me.

1095
01:05:19.119 --> 01:05:26.800
And the more the more experiences I have, it kind

1096
01:05:26.800 --> 01:05:32.119
of turns different, it becomes it's become scarier because of

1097
01:05:32.159 --> 01:05:33.800
those electronic sounds.

1098
01:05:35.039 --> 01:05:35.400
M m.

1099
01:05:35.639 --> 01:05:39.679
Yeah. And if I didn't have my dogs with me,

1100
01:05:39.840 --> 01:05:45.760
I just don't think, you know, my cell phone and

1101
01:05:45.760 --> 01:05:48.039
stuff like that. If I didn't have my dogs with me,

1102
01:05:48.119 --> 01:05:50.760
I mean I wouldn't probably go where I'm going and stuff,

1103
01:05:50.800 --> 01:05:54.199
but I just wouldn't feel as safe. And I also

1104
01:05:54.360 --> 01:05:56.639
am kind of concerned about my dogs. I don't let

1105
01:05:56.639 --> 01:05:58.920
them out of my sight and we stay in open areas.

1106
01:05:58.920 --> 01:06:01.280
I don't let them go into the wood like I

1107
01:06:01.360 --> 01:06:03.000
used to. We used to go into the brush and

1108
01:06:03.039 --> 01:06:05.400
things and then you know, I was finding all those

1109
01:06:05.400 --> 01:06:08.960
bones and stuff and then hearing those calls. It's it's

1110
01:06:09.039 --> 01:06:11.440
just it's kind of creepy. It's kind of creepy anyways,

1111
01:06:11.519 --> 01:06:14.039
Like because sometimes where we go, you know, you'll find

1112
01:06:14.079 --> 01:06:17.840
cachets where mountainon have buried some bones and stuff too,

1113
01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:20.119
you know what I mean, So you can you kind

1114
01:06:20.119 --> 01:06:22.559
of get a little bit of creepiness there, you know

1115
01:06:22.559 --> 01:06:26.119
what I mean. So there's creepiness anyhow.

1116
01:06:26.159 --> 01:06:30.440
But has has something called your dog's name multiple times?

1117
01:06:30.519 --> 01:06:31.639
Or is it just the one time?

1118
01:06:32.599 --> 01:06:34.199
Thank god, just that one time.

1119
01:06:34.320 --> 01:06:38.960
Okay, that's still weird though, Yeah, isn't it. It's super weird.

1120
01:06:39.280 --> 01:06:41.519
My dog perked up its ears and looked.

1121
01:06:42.440 --> 01:06:44.000
I don't know if I would go back to that place,

1122
01:06:44.039 --> 01:06:46.920
to be honest, I mean, just talking personally like that

1123
01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:48.840
would weird me out.

1124
01:06:49.119 --> 01:06:52.440
I know, she almost she almost turned and went that direction,

1125
01:06:55.280 --> 01:06:59.320
but she didn't because she was with me, Like there

1126
01:06:59.440 --> 01:07:01.800
was a like, isn't that weird?

1127
01:07:02.280 --> 01:07:07.960
It's it's super weird. Yeah, what's the what's the most

1128
01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:12.920
recent time that you've had a dream that included something

1129
01:07:12.960 --> 01:07:17.760
to do with Bigfoot?

1130
01:07:23.239 --> 01:07:25.840
Oh?

1131
01:07:26.320 --> 01:07:26.800
I don't know.

1132
01:07:27.519 --> 01:07:30.559
I mean I've had some I guess. I had a

1133
01:07:30.559 --> 01:07:33.440
bad dream a couple of months ago, and I woke

1134
01:07:33.519 --> 01:07:37.000
up and said, oh my gosh. I remember waking up

1135
01:07:37.039 --> 01:07:40.320
going what a horrible dream. But it was more about

1136
01:07:41.599 --> 01:07:46.039
just being concerned about babies and stuff and little animal.

1137
01:07:47.400 --> 01:07:48.039
Is that weird?

1138
01:07:48.679 --> 01:07:52.519
Yeah, no, I mean it's very it's very out of

1139
01:07:52.559 --> 01:07:56.599
the ordinary for sure. Yeah.

1140
01:07:57.760 --> 01:08:01.920
Yeah, I just think that maybe that's my I think

1141
01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:07.559
that they observe obviously they're called watchers, right, and I

1142
01:08:07.559 --> 01:08:10.480
think they can find your weakness and they pick up

1143
01:08:10.519 --> 01:08:13.719
on it. I don't believe that they can read your mind.

1144
01:08:13.800 --> 01:08:18.439
I think they're clever. I think they're they're claiboyant at

1145
01:08:18.479 --> 01:08:22.880
reading your actions, and so it seems like there can

1146
01:08:22.920 --> 01:08:25.319
read your mind. I believe that only God can read

1147
01:08:25.359 --> 01:08:28.520
your mind. I think that they can put things into

1148
01:08:28.520 --> 01:08:31.439
your mind, though, But I don't believe that they can

1149
01:08:31.479 --> 01:08:36.199
read your mind. And that's just my belief. But I

1150
01:08:36.279 --> 01:08:38.560
just think that they pick up on your weaknesses and

1151
01:08:38.600 --> 01:08:41.079
the things that you you know, if you're going out

1152
01:08:41.119 --> 01:08:43.319
there enough, and I mean it's like almost every day

1153
01:08:43.479 --> 01:08:44.880
like I'm out there, you know what I mean. So

1154
01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:49.279
there's been a lot of you know, reading of me.

1155
01:08:49.399 --> 01:08:52.640
If that's what they're doing. I mean, I'm probably just

1156
01:08:52.720 --> 01:08:56.119
even talking about it. I feel like we're it's like

1157
01:08:56.199 --> 01:09:02.399
a sideline or or a sidebar conversation. It's like I

1158
01:09:02.399 --> 01:09:05.000
don't know how much. I don't know how much I

1159
01:09:05.039 --> 01:09:08.359
want to give to it, because I don't think they're

1160
01:09:08.359 --> 01:09:13.159
worth any of it. I know that that they've existed

1161
01:09:13.199 --> 01:09:14.960
for a long time. I know there's a ramp up

1162
01:09:15.079 --> 01:09:19.439
in their importance. I think that they're dangerous. I think

1163
01:09:19.479 --> 01:09:24.119
they're unclean. I noticed that people just an observation, people

1164
01:09:24.159 --> 01:09:28.960
that get terrorized physically by them, like in person scared.

1165
01:09:30.840 --> 01:09:34.680
I think they read that situation as well. I think

1166
01:09:34.760 --> 01:09:38.840
they get entertained by other people and then mess with them,

1167
01:09:38.920 --> 01:09:42.359
you know, like that whole having bad dreams and things

1168
01:09:42.399 --> 01:09:45.760
like that. I know that in some of the accounts

1169
01:09:45.920 --> 01:09:51.640
from one of the apostles for the the LDS Church,

1170
01:09:54.199 --> 01:09:56.680
whatever it was that talked to him, the big hairy

1171
01:09:56.840 --> 01:09:59.720
creature whatever it was, had said that he was there

1172
01:09:59.760 --> 01:10:04.840
to do story human souls, that it was a miserable,

1173
01:10:05.000 --> 01:10:07.960
that he was miserable and couldn't die, you know. And

1174
01:10:08.039 --> 01:10:10.479
I mean, of course, you know there's folklore too, so

1175
01:10:11.920 --> 01:10:14.520
I believe there were accounts, But I don't know how

1176
01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:17.079
they change throughout time. I'm just you know, really open

1177
01:10:17.159 --> 01:10:19.960
to know that the things change, and some of the

1178
01:10:19.960 --> 01:10:23.319
older accounts don't sound like the more recent accounts. But

1179
01:10:23.439 --> 01:10:27.359
I know that the Bigfoot sure hasn't evolved much. I mean,

1180
01:10:27.520 --> 01:10:30.520
you know, they're not they're not wearing sandals and they're

1181
01:10:30.520 --> 01:10:35.640
not you know, I mean, they kind of don't evolve

1182
01:10:35.720 --> 01:10:40.800
at all. They're timeless. They kind of stay where they're at.

1183
01:10:40.920 --> 01:10:45.760
Whereas we we evolved, you know, we change and we progress,

1184
01:10:45.920 --> 01:10:50.520
So there's something to that they are not equipped to evolve.

1185
01:10:50.680 --> 01:10:53.520
They have what they have, and they come in and

1186
01:10:53.560 --> 01:10:58.039
out of our realm, and you know, I mean, I

1187
01:10:58.039 --> 01:10:59.680
guess if you don't go in the woods, you don't

1188
01:10:59.720 --> 01:11:01.159
have to deal with them, but they're there.

1189
01:11:02.399 --> 01:11:06.479
You know, makes you wonder where they're going back to

1190
01:11:07.960 --> 01:11:11.479
after they come to our areas and then they go

1191
01:11:11.560 --> 01:11:15.159
somewhere else. Where is it they're going back to? You know? Yeah?

1192
01:11:15.199 --> 01:11:17.840
It does. And also when people say that they've killed them,

1193
01:11:18.079 --> 01:11:20.880
it makes you wonder how much of that is true?

1194
01:11:20.880 --> 01:11:24.159
And then what does that mean? Like if someone's killed one,

1195
01:11:24.199 --> 01:11:26.520
what happens to their Do they have a soul? And

1196
01:11:26.560 --> 01:11:28.720
if they have a soul, do they get reborn again?

1197
01:11:28.800 --> 01:11:32.760
Because some people believe that they can't ever die. Like

1198
01:11:32.760 --> 01:11:37.279
like what, who cares? Right? Like all these things are

1199
01:11:37.319 --> 01:11:42.159
so mystifying and so curious that we could get stuck

1200
01:11:42.199 --> 01:11:45.199
on them and not have our focus somewhere else. I

1201
01:11:45.359 --> 01:11:48.239
just really believe that it's dangerous, at least for someone

1202
01:11:48.319 --> 01:11:54.319
like me who's been so imprinted. And you know, here's

1203
01:11:54.359 --> 01:11:57.319
the problem. Anywhere I go, I can go. I mean

1204
01:11:57.319 --> 01:11:59.640
anywhere I go. I love the country anywhere I go.

1205
01:12:00.920 --> 01:12:03.880
You know, I guess when I was in North Dakota,

1206
01:12:04.680 --> 01:12:10.199
I didn't feel like there was any window but what

1207
01:12:10.439 --> 01:12:18.319
went through there, And one of the tribal members had

1208
01:12:18.359 --> 01:12:21.039
had a heart attack when they had the sighting it

1209
01:12:21.079 --> 01:12:26.279
had gone on if you look up, I don't know

1210
01:12:26.479 --> 01:12:28.520
someone and I don't know if it was the Bigfoot.

1211
01:12:28.920 --> 01:12:32.600
What's the group called that does the investigations.

1212
01:12:32.640 --> 01:12:34.079
For real beef.

1213
01:12:34.640 --> 01:12:37.560
Yeah, I think they did investigation. But I had also

1214
01:12:38.760 --> 01:12:44.960
because I lived there, my daughter works closely there. And

1215
01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:47.720
one of the elders had had a heart attack when

1216
01:12:47.720 --> 01:12:50.359
they saw it. But some of the ladies had seen

1217
01:12:50.399 --> 01:12:54.319
it out on the ice on the Soca Quia like

1218
01:12:54.479 --> 01:12:56.920
Soka Koua, and so I mean, I just you know,

1219
01:12:57.479 --> 01:12:59.319
I mean, I hear about things, and you know, I

1220
01:12:59.680 --> 01:13:01.359
liked it to get too. There was a time when

1221
01:13:01.800 --> 01:13:03.800
I was trying to put it together. But since I've

1222
01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:07.359
been here and had these things going on and I've

1223
01:13:07.439 --> 01:13:09.560
kind of like put it together. I'm like, oh, I

1224
01:13:09.600 --> 01:13:12.840
see what's going on. It's trying to get me. The

1225
01:13:12.840 --> 01:13:15.479
more you look and the more you know you hear

1226
01:13:15.520 --> 01:13:20.680
about people seeking them out, no one ever gets anywhere

1227
01:13:20.680 --> 01:13:25.079
with it. It's like, you know, a treasure hunt kind of,

1228
01:13:26.199 --> 01:13:26.960
it's fruitless.

1229
01:13:27.399 --> 01:13:31.680
It's a treasure hunt that for most people goes on

1230
01:13:31.800 --> 01:13:36.960
forever and hopefully it'll go somewhere in our lifetime. But

1231
01:13:37.000 --> 01:13:42.159
for a lot of people it really doesn't. It it

1232
01:13:42.199 --> 01:13:48.199
can become all consuming. There's a few people that have

1233
01:13:48.279 --> 01:13:50.880
said that, has there been any reports in your area

1234
01:13:50.920 --> 01:13:56.920
where they've been like particularly aggressive reports or just reports

1235
01:13:56.960 --> 01:13:58.239
of more high strangeness.

1236
01:13:58.920 --> 01:14:03.560
So my where I'm at, we don't really report things much.

1237
01:14:03.720 --> 01:14:05.960
I mean obviously you know, because we thought like somebody

1238
01:14:06.000 --> 01:14:09.680
did call when like I heard the neighbors and it's

1239
01:14:09.720 --> 01:14:11.439
fireworks and you think, you know what I mean, there's

1240
01:14:11.520 --> 01:14:15.680
just not a lot of we're just more to ourselves.

1241
01:14:15.760 --> 01:14:17.640
I mean it's all over. I mean, if you go

1242
01:14:17.720 --> 01:14:22.800
toward even more south and stuff, I mean, it's pretty

1243
01:14:24.279 --> 01:14:27.880
you know. I mean, Okay, So for instance, even when

1244
01:14:27.920 --> 01:14:31.640
I went to physical therapy, the gals like, oh, yeah,

1245
01:14:31.800 --> 01:14:33.680
I see and I can't see the town, but there's

1246
01:14:33.920 --> 01:14:36.880
several towns around, you know what I mean. But it's anyways,

1247
01:14:38.840 --> 01:14:41.600
she goes. When I came into town, I saw one

1248
01:14:41.640 --> 01:14:46.600
walking and then we had the owner of the place

1249
01:14:46.680 --> 01:14:48.600
was like yeah, you know, and blah blah blah blah blah.

1250
01:14:48.600 --> 01:14:51.199
And then I'm talking to another kid and he's like, yeah,

1251
01:14:51.239 --> 01:14:57.439
we just had had a deer hanging and they were

1252
01:14:57.479 --> 01:15:01.000
out on one of the ravines. You know, I don't

1253
01:15:01.000 --> 01:15:03.239
want to give away where I'm at, but I probably

1254
01:15:03.279 --> 01:15:08.720
have already. But anyhow, and the the Bigfoot kept coming by, smacking,

1255
01:15:09.000 --> 01:15:12.000
like I said, kept smacking their their house.

1256
01:15:12.720 --> 01:15:16.039
Big for Society will be right back after these messages.

1257
01:15:32.399 --> 01:15:34.399
And there are vehicles of stuff because it was mad

1258
01:15:34.399 --> 01:15:36.640
because they had this thing hanging out there, you know

1259
01:15:36.680 --> 01:15:38.800
what I mean, what it had been hunting season. Like

1260
01:15:38.840 --> 01:15:44.079
they don't like right, you know, for trophy. They don't

1261
01:15:44.159 --> 01:15:46.119
like you to hang it. You're not hanging it to show,

1262
01:15:46.159 --> 01:15:47.680
but to them that's what it is. I mean, it's

1263
01:15:47.720 --> 01:15:49.960
almost like they put those bones out and line them

1264
01:15:50.039 --> 01:15:53.640
up like they're the big like you know, trophy people.

1265
01:15:53.800 --> 01:15:56.279
They're in control of the animal. No, you're not. And

1266
01:15:56.319 --> 01:15:59.319
if you read the Bible, I mean obviously, right Genesis

1267
01:15:59.520 --> 01:16:01.720
it taught about if you do tie it back to

1268
01:16:01.760 --> 01:16:04.039
this mind. I'm not saying that they are Cain, Okay,

1269
01:16:04.119 --> 01:16:08.520
I'm just saying there's a certain theme, common theme. There's

1270
01:16:08.640 --> 01:16:13.640
like this, they're of the same vein. Something's there because Cain.

1271
01:16:14.279 --> 01:16:16.720
The reason Cain killed Abel with a rock. You know

1272
01:16:16.720 --> 01:16:20.039
how they like to throw their rocks, right, killed Able

1273
01:16:20.079 --> 01:16:22.279
with a rock was he was jealous of him. The

1274
01:16:22.319 --> 01:16:24.279
reason he was jealous of him. In the Bible, it

1275
01:16:24.319 --> 01:16:29.640
says that Abel was a farmer. He was a shepherd type.

1276
01:16:29.680 --> 01:16:32.279
He was a husbandry of animals. He was in charge

1277
01:16:32.319 --> 01:16:39.239
of actual souls animals, and Cain was a dirt tiller.

1278
01:16:39.399 --> 01:16:41.520
He was a farmer, but he was not in charge

1279
01:16:41.760 --> 01:16:45.239
of animals. He could, he wasn't. That was not his

1280
01:16:45.520 --> 01:16:48.239
degree of glory. So when it came time to give

1281
01:16:48.319 --> 01:16:51.600
the offering, and it's in the Bible, these are just

1282
01:16:51.680 --> 01:16:56.800
my words. In scripture, it says that the Lord was

1283
01:16:56.840 --> 01:17:08.000
not happy with Cain's sacrifice. He was he was happy

1284
01:17:08.039 --> 01:17:12.119
with Abels, and that's why Cain killed Abel. Abel was

1285
01:17:12.159 --> 01:17:15.920
in charge of animals. Animals are of a higher spirit,

1286
01:17:16.760 --> 01:17:21.359
you know, They're They're more sentient than plants, you know

1287
01:17:21.399 --> 01:17:27.399
what I mean, if you're going to give an offering, right, So,

1288
01:17:28.399 --> 01:17:30.720
I just feel like it has to do with glory.

1289
01:17:30.960 --> 01:17:33.840
I'm not I know that sounds really far out there,

1290
01:17:33.880 --> 01:17:37.319
but it's just I'm not saying it's direct. I'm just saying,

1291
01:17:37.399 --> 01:17:43.760
going on that same theme, somehow it ties into their

1292
01:17:43.880 --> 01:17:48.760
need to be in charge of animals. And it's ridiculous.

1293
01:17:49.760 --> 01:17:49.960
You know.

1294
01:17:50.960 --> 01:17:57.840
That's interesting. Yeah, that is. I hear a lot of

1295
01:17:57.880 --> 01:18:01.279
different theories on the on the show, and I would

1296
01:18:01.279 --> 01:18:03.880
have to say that that is a very unique one.

1297
01:18:04.000 --> 01:18:06.840
It's it's interesting to think about. Though. I've talked to

1298
01:18:06.920 --> 01:18:10.680
another guy from this area, and Okay, there's some weird

1299
01:18:10.720 --> 01:18:14.960
stuff that goes on in up where I think we

1300
01:18:15.079 --> 01:18:20.560
might be talking. But and this has been a really

1301
01:18:20.680 --> 01:18:25.760
interesting chat about. I mean, I feel things are going

1302
01:18:25.760 --> 01:18:28.000
to continue to happen in your area.

1303
01:18:29.359 --> 01:18:31.199
I know, and I do have to scale back, and

1304
01:18:31.239 --> 01:18:34.279
I agree with you, just so you know, I know

1305
01:18:34.479 --> 01:18:38.960
that they're going to increase, right, I know, I know

1306
01:18:39.039 --> 01:18:40.640
that they will. I mean, even though I pray when

1307
01:18:40.640 --> 01:18:41.880
I go out there and stuff, the fact that I

1308
01:18:41.920 --> 01:18:46.239
go out there almost feels like I'm returning to the warrant,

1309
01:18:46.239 --> 01:18:49.239
you know what I mean, Like there's it's already been ruined.

1310
01:18:50.159 --> 01:18:52.399
So I've got to find a new place to go.

1311
01:18:52.479 --> 01:18:55.159
But I have to go out of where I'm at,

1312
01:18:55.399 --> 01:18:59.720
out of the area, because it's all over. It's there's

1313
01:19:00.359 --> 01:19:06.359
like you can go twenty miles and it's still there

1314
01:19:06.800 --> 01:19:08.159
around I'm not kidding.

1315
01:19:09.319 --> 01:19:14.319
It's just it's just interactions with the creature all over

1316
01:19:14.359 --> 01:19:17.800
the place. Up there, you're saying, there is.

1317
01:19:19.439 --> 01:19:22.760
There is, Yeah, if you're out, if you're out and

1318
01:19:23.319 --> 01:19:27.319
you're disturbing, if you're in the way. Just the common

1319
01:19:27.319 --> 01:19:31.720
denominator is the elk, just so you know. So if

1320
01:19:31.760 --> 01:19:35.960
you're not in where the deer are or the elk,

1321
01:19:36.199 --> 01:19:38.880
you're probably better off. Do you know what I mean?

1322
01:19:39.079 --> 01:19:41.239
Why do you think the common denominator is the elk?

1323
01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:47.640
I don't know, I don't know, but it's definitely they

1324
01:19:47.760 --> 01:19:50.000
definitely key in on them.

1325
01:19:50.920 --> 01:19:53.000
I mean, it's the other guy I was talking to you.

1326
01:19:53.199 --> 01:19:57.239
There was elk involved, so oh yeah, yeah.

1327
01:19:57.079 --> 01:20:00.000
There you go. Yeah yeah, I mean not so much

1328
01:20:00.159 --> 01:20:02.520
the moose, but they I think because the elk are

1329
01:20:02.560 --> 01:20:06.119
like cows, like they migrat in herds, you can control

1330
01:20:06.159 --> 01:20:07.680
them better, and like deer too.

1331
01:20:07.800 --> 01:20:08.000
You know.

1332
01:20:08.880 --> 01:20:12.680
I just think that they just they like get off

1333
01:20:12.680 --> 01:20:15.079
on it. They think that. I know that sounds so busy.

1334
01:20:15.319 --> 01:20:18.079
I mean I just I feel like it's crazy to

1335
01:20:18.159 --> 01:20:21.520
even talk about it. But you got to understand. I mean,

1336
01:20:23.960 --> 01:20:28.680
I've gone driving, I took a vacation. I went driving

1337
01:20:28.760 --> 01:20:31.600
up the river and you know, close to where that guy,

1338
01:20:31.720 --> 01:20:34.000
not on purpose because I live here, but close to

1339
01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:38.119
where that guy had that bigfoot sighting, and out of

1340
01:20:38.159 --> 01:20:42.560
the river bank come running two doughs and like rammed

1341
01:20:42.640 --> 01:20:47.159
into my front quarter panel or front fender and this

1342
01:20:47.359 --> 01:20:49.520
my side door. And it's like they were being chased.

1343
01:20:50.039 --> 01:20:54.039
And I'm like, when that was chased, yeah, being k Yeah,

1344
01:20:54.439 --> 01:20:57.159
you know whatever. But it's like I just feel like,

1345
01:20:58.319 --> 01:20:59.800
you know, I mean, it just put me on such

1346
01:20:59.840 --> 01:21:02.159
high alert. And I never hit you know, I didn't

1347
01:21:02.199 --> 01:21:03.920
hit them. They ran and of course they could have

1348
01:21:03.920 --> 01:21:05.279
been running up there, but I mean, they were in

1349
01:21:05.319 --> 01:21:08.600
such a hurry to get out of that embankment, and

1350
01:21:08.640 --> 01:21:13.039
it's like, I just feel like, I don't know, I

1351
01:21:13.039 --> 01:21:16.319
feel like I get messed with you know what I

1352
01:21:16.319 --> 01:21:16.960
mean a little bit.

1353
01:21:17.159 --> 01:21:21.399
Yeah, No, I mean you've had you're dealing with it

1354
01:21:21.479 --> 01:21:26.479
your whole life for sure. But I'm glad we talked tonight.

1355
01:21:26.600 --> 01:21:30.880
And please keep me in the loop with if things

1356
01:21:31.039 --> 01:21:35.119
conntinue to happen with you know, hearing weird sounds or

1357
01:21:35.199 --> 01:21:39.279
just the ordinary things. Yeah, that'd be interested to know

1358
01:21:39.319 --> 01:21:40.560
if it continues to happen.

1359
01:21:40.640 --> 01:21:42.760
But yeah, I will let you know.

1360
01:21:43.239 --> 01:21:44.880
Thank you so much for coming on tonight.

1361
01:21:45.399 --> 01:21:47.439
Yeah, you bet, Thank you for having me take care.

1362
01:21:48.399 --> 01:21:50.199
Just wanted to take a few minutes to say thank

1363
01:21:50.239 --> 01:21:54.359
you to you all my listeners for listening to the podcast.

1364
01:21:54.760 --> 01:21:57.520
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1365
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01:22:15.319 --> 01:22:18.479
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01:22:18.520 --> 01:22:21.399
had a bigfoot encounter related to the following, or know

1372
01:22:21.560 --> 01:22:25.680
someone who has. Please reach out to me at Bigfoot

1373
01:22:25.680 --> 01:22:29.119
Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email.

1374
01:22:29.920 --> 01:22:34.720
Here's the list. The Subtle Lake area of Oregon, Rainbow, Oregon,

1375
01:22:35.079 --> 01:22:40.399
McKinsey Bridge area, Sweet Home, pretty much that entire area,

1376
01:22:40.960 --> 01:22:44.239
the north part. If you get what I mean, I'll

1377
01:22:44.239 --> 01:22:47.720
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