May 30, 2025

Campfire Ambush in Elk State Forest!

Campfire Ambush in Elk State Forest!
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Season 1

What happens when six seasoned campers — three of them military — head deep into the remote wilds of Pennsylvania’s Elk State Forest... and something starts throwing rocks at them from the darkness? In this unnerving episode, we hear firsthand from Jim, a lifelong outdoorsman who went from skeptic to believer after one terrifying night in the woods. As their camp was silently surrounded, rocks began flying, brush cracked under heavy footfalls, and something large — and intelligent — made its presence known. You’ll hear how a weeklong trip turned into a desperate retreat, the strange footprint they found the next morning, and why they’ll never return to that spot again. We also touch on Bigfoot activity near Wharton, Allegheny National Forest, and the mysterious silence of the woods when predators aren’t the only ones hunting. This episode isn’t a campfire tale. It’s a warning.

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You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. Tonight's

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account is from a group of six seasoned campers, three

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of them trained military, who ventured deep into the rugged

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heart of Elk State Forest in Pennsylvania. They planned a

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week long escape off trail, but what they got was

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something entirely different. This is the night that Jim stopped

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believing that Bigfoot was a myth. So stay with us,

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all right, big the Society that the privilege of talking

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to Jim today. Jim is an individual that I was

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introduced to after seeing a Reddit post that he had left.

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I believe it was an r slash Bigfoot, and he

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is able to come on the show to share some

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interesting things that happened when he was out camping in

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northern Pennsylvania. And welcome to the show, Jim. How's it

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going man, It is going great.

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Thank you for having me.

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Absolutely. You know, we don't get a lot a lot

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of northern Pennsylvania, so it is always a fun when

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we get to talk to someone from that state, as

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there is a lot of activity that goes on out there.

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But you know, feel free, Jim to take us back

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to what was going on that night when you had

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some weird things happen out there in northern Pennsylvania.

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Already. So me and five of my buddies, we were

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going on a week long camping trip up in Elk

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State Forest, and it's north central Pennsylvania. We were I

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want to say, north east of Wharton, which is a

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little town up that way. It lies right on the

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edge of Elk County or Elk State Forest anyhow, And

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like I said, we were going up on a week

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long trip and we were going off trail and just

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what we had to carry with us and each of

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my friends we had all been going camping together since

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we were teenagers. We've known each other for years, and

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about the most reliable kind of people each could have

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around honestly, especially in the woods. All very capable people.

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But we ended up going found a good spot to park,

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and we just set off into the woods. We ended

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up going I believed it was northwest into the woods.

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And we got to our spot where we parked at

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about noon. Because we don't live up that way. We

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lived down in the south western Pennsylvania a lot of

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us and it was a long drive up there, as

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you can imagine, it's a big state. Anyway. We got

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into where we parked our cars at about like said noon,

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and we had about four to five hours before dark

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because it was getting into the fall. Leaves hadn't really

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started to fall heavy yet. It was more still into

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changing colors and all that, but it was getting to it,

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so things were getting shorter and all that. Whenever we

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had set off, we started up this one mountain and

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it was fairly rugged and very very minimal sign of

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any kind of like human interference, you know, like there

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wasn't a whole lot of garbage. And like I said,

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we were going off trail anyway, so we didn't expect

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to find much anyway. So we had hiked for the

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better part of for four hours or so when it

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was just getting starting to be dusk, we had ended

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up finding a clearing near the top end of this

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mountain side and decided to set up camp. So we

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set up our fires, we set up our hammocks. Because

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ten camping is for suckers in my own personal opinion,

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and I will recommend that if you have never been

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hand of camping into something, you absolutely have to try.

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You get the right hang. It is way better night

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sleeping than sleeping on the ground.

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No, it's great. I used to do that on the

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Appalation Trail all the time. Yeah, that's great stuff.

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So anyway, we had set up our camp in this

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little clearing. We had made dinner, and I settled in

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and as you can imagine a munch middle aged and

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middle mid twenty, you know, grown men hanging out in

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the woods. We're gonna be laughing and carrying on having

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a good time, you know. And we're sitting around campfire,

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carrying on having a good time. And it's getting in dark,

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and just as about we were getting ready to go

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to bed, which I would imagine to be around between

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anywhere between eleven and one o'clock in the morning. None

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of us were really paying attention to the time. But dark, dark,

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kind of, you know. And I'm sitting in my chair,

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and something hit me in the back, you know, nothing hard,

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you know, nothing crazy. So I stood up and I'm

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facing campfire, you know, and all five of us are

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sitting around it. So I turned around and looked into

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the woods. And as you as you know, fire blindness

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is a very big thing, and I couldn't see very

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far past the tree line at all and didn't see nothing.

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And I pulled up my flash light and I got

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I carry whenever we go camping or hiking together, I

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always make sure I have a really good flash light

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and I'm actually still using the same one to this day.

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It's about three thousand allomens, so it'll it'll cut through

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a little bit of night. And I shined in the

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direction of what I thought, and I didn't see anything,

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you know, no movement, no nothing. And I looked down

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in the chair and it was a rock, you know,

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something you know, I wouldn't say any bigger than maybe

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like a half dollar size around nothing, nothing crazy big,

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you know. And it wasn't like he was thrown with

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any kind of force. It was like more of a

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toss kind of thing. That's why I was figuring, like, well,

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whatever through it or whatever hit me would have been

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right there, you know, within within eyeshot, even in the dark,

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you know. But like I said, I didn't see a thing.

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And whenever I had stood up and pulled the flashlight up,

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the rest of my buddies they all had went silent.

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And it was kind of like a silent rule between

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a lot of us that if we're out in the

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woods together, and any one of us, you know, perks

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up because of something going on, we all just shut

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up and we all pay attention. Well, after I was

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satisfied that there was pretty much nothing there for me

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to see, I go and turn back to the fire,

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and no, sooner do I do that? Did I see

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a rock come out of the woods but the same size?

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Would it hit me in the complete opposite direction, hitting

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my buddy that was across the campfire from me. Now,

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mind you, in this amount of time, there wasn't but

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maybe twenty seconds, you know, So nothing's going to move

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outside of the line of sight of any of all

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six of us in twenty seconds to get around behind

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us without making any noise, you know, especially in the

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dark and with no light. I don't care what it is,

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it's going to make some kind of a noise. It's

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going to be seen. And that's when I realized that, well,

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whatever hit me hasn't moved, and now there's something on

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the other side of us. So now all six of

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us are out, and I'm running through my head of well,

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what kind of animal can actually throw anything? And there

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ain't many, And my mind immediately went to well, there's

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somebody out here with us, you know, thinking probably people,

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but I don't know anyone with enough guts to to

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walk up on six grown men in the middle of

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the woods at night, especially with like I said, no

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light without announcing themselves. I mean. And at that point

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I had my forty five on me, forty five ACP,

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and I had pulled it out, and whatever was seeing

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us would had absolutely noticed me doing that, and they did,

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and that's when things became I wouldn't say aggressive, but

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more than what it was before. They started moving around,

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circling around us, and they continued throwing stones at us,

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you know, from off where we couldn't see them, and

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they were thrown quite a bit harder than they were before,

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you know, and there was no communication. And like I said,

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we didn't see any lights out in the woods either,

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so whatever was doing it was doing it out there

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basically blind. And we had a decent fire gun, so

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it's not like they were close to us to be

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able to not for us not to see it. And

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at this point all of us had carried side arms,

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you know, all of us had carried guns with us

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to poor protection because I mean, there's Elka bear obviously

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hence the name of the forest. But there's also black bear,

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there's bobcat, there's coyotes, and you never know what an

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animal is gonna be going, especially when it's hungry. So

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we'd always carry those just to keep ourselves safe. And

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whatever was out their new full well that every one

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of us was armed. And this is when I realized

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that we weren't dealing with people, because anybody that would

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be out there, whether it be you know, teenagers playing

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a prank or a brand, a bunch of hillbillies, if

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you want to call you, if you want to go

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that route, they would have said, okay, hey, then joke's

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over now, you know. And I was, like I said,

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I didn't hear any of that. But whatever was out

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there circling around us throughout the night, it was definitely

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at least as big as a man, because it sounded

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like a grown man crashing through brush and forest and footsteps,

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I mean, we could hear footsteps being you know, stomping

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through and around, and like I said, throughout the night,

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most of us, you know, none of us could obviously

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even consider going to sleep. We ended up standing up

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until it was getting getting in the dawn, and before,

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just before the sun started peeking over the mountains, they

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had turned and ran off in opposite directions away from us.

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Before that light's really started to kick in. And now

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none of us had any fear of the forest at all,

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none of the none of us had any fear, you know,

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the animals that were out there. It's not like we

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were dealing that. We ever would have had to worry

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about dealing with the grizzly bear, you know, or a moose.

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We just don't live in that area. But it was

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definitely a surreal moment for us. And like I said,

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this happened on our first night of what was supposed

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to be a seven day trip, and we ended up

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packing our backs and we had left we left that day,

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you know, the next day, as soon as it was

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bright enough for us to pack off our gear. We

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were out. Then, uh as me and my one buddy,

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h my marine buddy that was with us, had finished

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packing up first, we decided it's bright enough, we knew

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they ran off, We're gonna go see if we could

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figure out what was going on. And we walked off

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into the tree line, probably fifteen twenty yards into the

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tree line, and we could see where they were circling

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circling around us. All the brush was you know, broken

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out into a path, all the all the leaf litter

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was beaten down. And I had ended up coming across

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a a print that looked human, you know, if you

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were barefoot, but it would have a distinct lack of

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a foot arch. And I mean, I don't claim to

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be any you know, master tracker or anything like that,

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but I know what a human footprint looks like in

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the mutter and the sand. Whenever you look at it,

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you can tell which which foot it is pretty simply

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by the toes and again by the arch, because there

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was a hally spot in that footprint, and this one

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didn't have it. It looked more you know, flat footed.

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And it was no bigger than mine, you know, like

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if I had taken my foot off, my boot off

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and stepped there in that same mudd, it wasn't any

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longer than mine. It was a little bit wider, but uh,

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the impression that it made was a lot deeper, which

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pretty simply put that just goes to tell you that

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whatever was out there and made that print was a

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lot heavier than I was now at the time. I

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was between one hundred and eighty and one hundred and

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ninety pounds, so whatever it made that print had to

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be at least two to fifty if not more. But

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it had the same footprint, you know, length that I had,

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and I guess it should put in and for a

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reference that I wear a size eleven, so I have

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a fairly large foot But you know, it was after

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we had found that we had regrouped with the rest

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of our buddies, and like I said, we had finished

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packing up and we went straight back to our cars

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and we had left. We weren't staying there another night.

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That is some really interesting stuff that happened to you, guys, Jim.

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And how how far out would you approximate mile wise you.

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Were well from where we had left to where we

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had ended up. I would say every bit of between

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four to five miles. We weren't trying to set the

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world on fire, you know, or make any land speed

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records there. We were taking our time and it was

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rough terrain, but I have you know, every one of

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us were in fairly good shape. I mean three of

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us were military. No myself, but three of us were

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military that were there. So we were all in pretty

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good shape, and I would imagine that we made at

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least four miles, if not five.

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Gotcha, did you notice anything weird around the spot where

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you were camping when it comes to like trees being

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like tree arches, or trees broken, or maybe X marks,

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anything weird, Like.

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I mean, I didn't notice it, But I mean at

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the time, I wasn't really looking forward either on our

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way in, you know, because I mean, I mean, I'm

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gonna be upfront and tell you, I mean I wasn't

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a believer in bigfoot until that happened, you know, because

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that was the only thing that I could logically think

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of that could potentially have done that to us, you know.

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And actually coming back to the Reddit post, I had

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a couple of comments on there, and the one guy

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had asked me, and I was like that if I

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thought that they could be potentially juvenile, you know, especially

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because speaking about the fact of finding that footprint being

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close to the size of mine, you know, and it

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would make sense, you know, especially if you take into

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account how sensational some of these sightings can be. With

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eight and nine foot monsters out there in the woods,

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you know, something that big is not going to be

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afraid of a human, you know, but if it's young,

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it's going to be smaller, and they could have been

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you know, they could have been closer to our size. Yeah.

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Absolutely, And and the thing is, well, a lot of

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witnesses will say the way that you were getting messed with,

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a lot of people will say, well, that kind of

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sounds like, well maybe it was a juvenile type thing,

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and that is kind of conjecture and you know, guessing,

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but a lot of people do bring that up. And

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you know, who knows what they were trying to do

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when they were, you know, trying to hit you in

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the back where they're trying to get your attention or

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just mess with you. You know, we don't know. But

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were there any sounds around in the forest during that time, Well.

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There were no other animal sounds, okay, you know, like

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there wasn't any crickets, there wasn't owls, there wasn't bats.

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We didn't even hear any coyotes. Which I've been up

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to Elk forst before. I would go up there trout fishing,

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you know, more towards Wharton. But we would go trout

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fishing up there all the time. And at night you

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would hear coyotes all day, you know all you know,

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all night long. It was. They're just so plentiful up there.

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We didn't hear not a one. Oh and aside from

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you know, crashing through bushes and all that as they

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were circling around us, I couldn't really tell if they

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were they were making any kind of a noise or communication.

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They were being so loud crashing around through the woods

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that I couldn't couldn't tell you if they were.

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Gotcha, were there any weird smells around that time that

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you noticed?

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It's not really uh on the way, like I said,

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it was getting into fall, So I mean you have

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that smell of you know, damp forest and the cave

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of like leaves and all that. You know that like

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roll like it's the best way to put it on it,

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like dirty smell, Like it smells like dirt, you know

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what I mean, like whenever those leaves get real wet

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that are just laying around and but like in the

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actual event, not really, I mean we had a campfire going.

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So but I mean, you just gotta understand this is

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this happened coming up on seven years ago, when this

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had happened to me, Uh, but no, I mean, not

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to my recollection, I wouldn't say that there was any

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kind of out of place smells. I'll put it that way.

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Absolutely, you know, when you during the time around the

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campfire that night, or I guess you know, through the night,

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did anyone in the group have any weird physical things

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happened to them that they weren't able to explain?

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No, okay, No, we were all pretty much fine. I mean,

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aside from a few bruises from some of the rocks.

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They were thrown a little bit harder than they were originally.

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You know, we were all completely physically fine on the

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way back out, and during that you know, more broken

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pride kind of thing than anything else, because I mean,

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like I said, there were six grown men out there,

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and we've all been in the woods at least ten

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years between you know, each of us, and here we

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are running away.

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Absolutely, I mean, and you said a few of those

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individuals were had a military background as well.

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Yes, one of them was Air Force and two of

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them were are well actively still Marine Corps.

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Wow, well that is very very interesting. After you guys,

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so you left the next day and you went to

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you know, your different homes, did anything did anyone have

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anything out of the ordinary happen, anything unexplained or weird

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happen after that?

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Not today, it's told me. We have talked about the

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situation before, because we still go camping together today. Okay,

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you know to this day. We go every year at

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least a few times together. Sometimes we go with just

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the guys, and I mean most of us have kids

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now and everyone we at least make it a point

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to go together at least one time every year with

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our kids. We don't go back up the forest. We

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are usually go to Allegaty National Forest now up past

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East Hickory. That's about the same distance time wise from

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where we live. Like I said, we live down near Pittsburgh,

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but it's in a different section of the state.

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That's interesting because I mean, Algaining National Forces is definitely

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known for a lot of big food activity. That's where

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a lot of researchers will go to check things out.

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But nothing happened during your time in that area.

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Well, nothing that I would say that was out of

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the ordinary. I mean, we've come across black bears before,

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We've had coyotes come in to camp in the middle

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of the night, and stuff like that. But nothing that

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I wouldn't say, that wouldn't be expected to be seen,

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you know what I mean, like, actually, you know wildlife

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that you would expect to see there.

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How did this affect you personally after you had this

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happened that night?

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Well, So, like I said, I wasn't a big foot

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believer beforehand, you know what I mean, I wasn't even

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a thought that had crossed my mind, Like, yeah, it's

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a cool story, but I mean it's not, you know,

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something I think is real because I hadn't seen it

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or I hadn't experienced anything like that, you know. And afterward,

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I mean I kind of leaned into it pretty heavy

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about you know, wanting to learn more about it and

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hearing you know, first hand accounts of what it was

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like to see if mine was out of the ordinary

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in any way. But I mean, it hasn't stopped me

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from going hunting, and it hasn't stopped me from you know,

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going camping. I tend to stick a little bit closer

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to the campsites nowadays, though I am getting older. I'm

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thirty one, I'll be thirty two this year. But uh,

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I don't I don't think that it has affected me

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so much because I've been up back up to Elk

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forcet before, you know, since then, and I have camped

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up there since then. But that's particular experience that was

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kind of like one of those instincts like I'm not

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welcome here, I'm going to leave kind of thing.

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So when you went back to Elk State Forest, did

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you go to the same spot again or was it

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a different campsite that you were staying in.

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No, we had not gone back to that same campsite. No,

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And like I said, we were off trail. It'd be

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hard to find her again. I'm sure we could if

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we absolutely had to, but we had just picked a

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direction from where we had parked and we had went,

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and it's pretty rugged train up there, and I mean,

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again seven years ago. Could change change the layout a

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lot between now and then, and I probably could find

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the general area of where we were at. But I've

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never been back there personally, and I've never gone that

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deep back into those woods ever. Again.

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Absolutely, do you when you're in that area, do you

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ever go out by yourself or you usually in a group.

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I've been out there as the only adult. I've taken

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my daughter fishing up there before, right along East Fork Road,

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and there's a creek that runs along East Fork Road.

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It's a great spot for trout fishing. And I'm sure

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there's gonna be plenty of people that are gonna upset

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that I'm giving that out. But I've taken my daughter

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up there to go fishing before. I've camped up there

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a couple of times with me or you know, with

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a couple of my buddies before, but I've never never

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once camped there by myself before, and I don't plan

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on it.

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Yeah, absolutely, I might be a little cautious to do

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that as well, going off of what you guys experienced.

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So after you got home, was this a thing where

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you had shared what happened right away with the rest

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of your family or did you hold on to it

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for a while to kind of work things through in

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your head?

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Well, I mean I I have I had. Like I

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told my wife, she was wondering why I was home

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six days early. I told her why and she she

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pretty much laughed at me, which I expected, and the

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only first thing that I told in any expedients. And

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I think about a week or two later I had

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told my father about it, and he had never now,

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he has never been in that particular uh forced forward

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to my knowledge, you may have at some point in

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his life, but I had never been up there with him,

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but he kind of brushed it off, and he had

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told me that he was one of the he's one

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of them people that I've spent so much time in

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the woods, I would have seen something by now and

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never have kind of guys, it's pretty much how he

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answered back that, you know, And I mean I would

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assume that's why I was the way I was about

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it too, because you know, I'm not gonna believe it

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till I experience it. Yeah.

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Absolutely, have you ever done any research to see if

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there's been similar experiences that have happened in that state forest?

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Never in particular to that, but just going based off

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of the way that because I have and like you said,

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whenever when we were talking about again Aligay National, we

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were talking about how there's plenty of sightings up there

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and the amount of sightings that are in PA and

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and all that. It doesn't surprise it wouldn't surprise me

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if there have been more sightings or experiences like I

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had had up there, But I never did any particular

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research in that specific area afterward. But I have definitely

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done research on sightings and experiences here in PA since then.

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Gotcha? And especially you said you're from southwest Pennsylvania.

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Yeah, I live north of Pittsburgh.

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Okay, north of Pittsburgh. I mean you're aware that even

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down there, I guess more, you know, south of Pittsburgh,

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there's some weird stuff that happens down in that area

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as well.

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Oh. Absolutely, you get down into Washington County and even

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lower in places like Beaver and everything else down there

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down near West Virginia, I would imagine that. Yeah, there

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would be a bunch because it's there's a lot of unclaimed,

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untouched forest out down there, a lot of old growth

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forces where pretty much anything you can imagine with little

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you know, I'm sure, But no, what am I gonna

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try to say here? It's gone? I've lost it.

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Sounds like it's a thing where you're interested in the subject,

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but you are maybe not going out and actively seeking

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it in the woods.

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No, I would actually prefer to not have another experience

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like that, But I'm not going to let it control

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my life if it doesn't help.

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Okay, gotcha, gotcha? Do you think that's Uh, that's the

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same way your buddies are are feeling about that as well,

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or or did it make any of them not go

463
00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:31.519
in the woods again after that?

464
00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:35.680
No, No, every one of that whole group, that group

465
00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:38.039
of six of us, we like I said, we regularly

466
00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:41.480
go camping together. Okay, so we still know it to

467
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:44.240
this day. It hasn't deterred us from going hunting or

468
00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:47.839
camping or fishing or anything like that, you know, at all.

469
00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:51.240
But there are certain places we just we will not go.

470
00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:56.359
And and I'm sure, like I said, like we we

471
00:29:56.400 --> 00:30:03.400
go to alligating National Forest mostly now, and until I'm

472
00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:06.400
giving a reason not to, I'm going to continue going.

473
00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:15.920
Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah, It's just it's that's that's a really

474
00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:19.240
really weird situation. I think the weirdest thing is that

475
00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:25.200
it definitely was not anyone messing with you guys, because

476
00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:29.359
you were i mean five six miles off the trail

477
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:34.039
just in the woods. No one was out there messing

478
00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:37.359
with you. There are no lights, that's just right.

479
00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:40.160
Yeah, I mean, Plus, I mean, like I said, I

480
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:43.440
don't know any man that's going to be able to

481
00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:47.279
keep his cool under the pressure of knowing that there's

482
00:30:47.559 --> 00:30:51.119
six guys just within you know, twenty thirty yards of

483
00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:54.200
you that that have firearms. Every one of us were armed,

484
00:30:54.599 --> 00:30:57.359
you know. I mean, I don't know anybody. It's not

485
00:30:57.400 --> 00:31:00.559
going to be like hey, sorry, I was just with you.

486
00:31:01.599 --> 00:31:04.200
I don't know anyway that I wouldn't wouldn't make themselves

487
00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:05.000
known at that point.

488
00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:11.480
Is there anything that you would have done differently that

489
00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:15.000
night if you could go back and do things over.

490
00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:22.759
Honestly, not really. I think that we made a fairly

491
00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:25.960
good decision because we had all stayed together, you know,

492
00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:30.920
and none of us had straight away at any point.

493
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:36.000
But I don't know if that was out of like

494
00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:39.480
some kind of us being smarter, if it was just

495
00:31:39.559 --> 00:31:42.079
sheer instinct of the whole strength and numbers kind of thing.

496
00:31:43.079 --> 00:31:47.279
But you know, I don't think that I would have

497
00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:49.480
personally done anything different. I can't speak for a way

498
00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:53.160
my friends may have acted. You know, you never know

499
00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:56.480
what a marine will do whenever he gets busy. But

500
00:31:57.960 --> 00:32:01.319
you know, I don't well, I don't think I think

501
00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:03.440
that we were all smart enough to be like, yeah,

502
00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:08.640
it's probably just the best to let them stay over there,

503
00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:11.279
let us stay here where we can see because I,

504
00:32:11.599 --> 00:32:14.599
like you said, like I said, before that they had

505
00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:17.599
walked up on us. And granted, whenever they had come

506
00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:20.599
upon us, we were carrying on having a good time.

507
00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:24.279
We weren't being quiet, so they could have very well

508
00:32:24.400 --> 00:32:26.400
come up on us, being just as loud as they were.

509
00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:30.000
Whenever they had, you know, whatever, we had all stood

510
00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:34.079
up and they had started crashing through through the brush

511
00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:37.480
and everything. You know, we wouldn't have heard them. But

512
00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:40.839
they walked up on us with no lights, because we

513
00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:43.640
would have seen them, you know. And you said you

514
00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:46.400
were a hiker on the Appalachian Trail before. You know

515
00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:48.079
how dark it gets out in the out in the

516
00:32:48.079 --> 00:32:50.960
woods and in the mountains at night. It's the different

517
00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:53.680
kind of dark. You can't see your hand in front

518
00:32:53.720 --> 00:32:56.799
of your face. You're not making it through as thick

519
00:32:57.440 --> 00:33:00.279
of woods as we were in with a rough train

520
00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:03.200
as we were in without a light without falling on

521
00:33:03.240 --> 00:33:05.599
your face at least a dozen times. She's just not

522
00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:06.119
going to happen.

523
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:09.559
I know that you said this happened what about six

524
00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:10.319
seven years.

525
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:13.119
Ago, coming up on seven years this fall.

526
00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:18.039
Do you happen to remember what was what you guys

527
00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:22.960
had for supper that night at the campsite?

528
00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:31.960
Oh, that's a great question. I would imagine, I know

529
00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:34.720
what I had made coffee because I know that what

530
00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:41.160
my friends are. I had made myself instant coffee because

531
00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:42.799
I was not going to be able to take up

532
00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:48.200
with the rest of them without it. I want to

533
00:33:48.240 --> 00:33:52.680
say that we probably had made burgers. We usually eat

534
00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:54.359
pretty good on our first name when we go out

535
00:33:54.359 --> 00:34:01.319
for multiple nights, right, But and I want to say

536
00:34:01.359 --> 00:34:04.519
probably potatoes is usually our first night thing. It's almost

537
00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:05.000
a ritual.

538
00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:10.400
Yeah, gotcha, got you that's pretty solid. Just uh, I

539
00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:14.760
always check for for certain patterns. Uh. A pattern I've

540
00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:21.159
noticed is that a lot of a lot of people

541
00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:27.440
will say they were cooking bacon or they were It's

542
00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:33.599
usually bacon. Yeah, it's usually bacon, which is weird. I

543
00:34:33.639 --> 00:34:38.920
mean smells delicious. You know, I can't blame with right.

544
00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:44.440
But reasons for that. Yeah, so not not to go

545
00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:48.519
down a dark path here, but the serial killers that

546
00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:53.199
were cannibals, they say that human flesh tastes like bake,

547
00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:56.000
like like pork. It's a little unsettling.

548
00:34:56.119 --> 00:35:00.760
Thanks, that's weird. I mean that's the I had just

549
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:02.719
had Campbells.

550
00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:05.280
Come up something about it.

551
00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:08.599
Hey, Well, I mean I had no idea but it's

552
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:17.199
good to know. I guess that's wild wild stuff. Yeah,

553
00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:21.400
if you're down in the I don't know how far

554
00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:24.119
away this would be for me. If you're wanting to

555
00:35:24.199 --> 00:35:30.039
go to an area that has bigfoot activity, it doesn't

556
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:34.320
really sound like you care either way. But Forbes State

557
00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:36.639
Forest down there, I don't know if you've heard of

558
00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:40.960
that area or the Laurel Ridge that area. That area

559
00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:44.320
is extremely active, so it might be a place you

560
00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:47.480
might not want to go to. Actually, but that.

561
00:35:48.559 --> 00:35:53.679
I mean, I'm I'm I'm not one to go out

562
00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:56.280
looking for for trouble. Acted that more than enough when

563
00:35:56.320 --> 00:35:59.440
I was a teenager, and I'm growing smart enough not

564
00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:03.000
to want to do that. But I'm not, like I said,

565
00:36:03.039 --> 00:36:04.559
I'm still not scared to go into the woods and

566
00:36:04.599 --> 00:36:07.760
go hunting and camping and all that. And until like

567
00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:11.920
I said, Alligay National National Forest. We go there all

568
00:36:11.960 --> 00:36:15.679
the time, and apparently it's a pretty big watchpot for

569
00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:19.000
bigfoot activity. It is, and I will continue to go

570
00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:22.280
there and till I find a reason not to, you know,

571
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:24.800
I mean, it won't. It doesn't bother me going out

572
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:26.480
and into the woods and going to have a good time,

573
00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:30.840
and I will I will no matter where it's at

574
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:35.039
until I get given that reason to stay away from it.

575
00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:40.960
Just a few more questions, just in case you remember

576
00:36:41.400 --> 00:36:49.000
some specific details about the footprints that you saw. Do

577
00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:53.719
were you able to see toes in those footprints toe indentations.

578
00:36:55.199 --> 00:36:57.559
I could see the first fore toes coming from the

579
00:36:57.599 --> 00:37:02.000
inside to the outside very clearly, generally, not really, I

580
00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:05.639
couldn't see, uh. Like I said before, it had a

581
00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:08.559
distinct lack of an arch like a human footprint wood.

582
00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:12.159
It was very very flat footed, but it had the

583
00:37:12.239 --> 00:37:16.119
general idea of the same shape, you know, tapered from

584
00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:22.639
the back, tapered at the back. There was a distinction

585
00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:28.519
between you know, there was a clear uh, how do

586
00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:31.440
I home home? How should I explain this? There was

587
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:35.679
a clear distinction between the main pad of the foot

588
00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:39.599
and the toes. You know, there was a distance there,

589
00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:42.039
you know what I mean, where it had not been

590
00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:47.559
pressed in so far you could tell, like I said,

591
00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:49.880
it was pressed in deep, a lot deeper than I

592
00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:52.639
would have been able to unless maybe I jumped and

593
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:55.920
jumped into that and like jumped down into it too,

594
00:37:56.360 --> 00:37:59.000
you know, so I would have, like I said, I

595
00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:01.440
would have assumed that whatever had made that print was

596
00:38:01.880 --> 00:38:03.480
a fair bit heavier than myself.

597
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:08.800
Yeah, absolutely, And was it just one print that you

598
00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:11.800
had seen or where there multiple prints?

599
00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:18.400
We did find a couple that were fairly good. There

600
00:38:18.440 --> 00:38:21.559
was a couple that were more partial than anything. But

601
00:38:23.400 --> 00:38:29.079
most of the ground was covered in dead leaves and

602
00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:33.559
all that where it was rocky, So being able to

603
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:36.039
find any was pretty much a miracle at that point.

604
00:38:36.280 --> 00:38:37.920
You know, there was just a couple of spots where

605
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:40.119
the ground was soft enough or there was mud that

606
00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:41.599
we were actually able to find anything.

607
00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:46.480
That makes sense if you were able to follow the

608
00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:51.519
tracks for a while, what did what did the path

609
00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:52.719
of the tracks look like?

610
00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:59.039
So the ring that they had ran around us for

611
00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:01.000
at least a couple of hours, a couple three four

612
00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:06.400
hours before the daylight started to come, it was wider

613
00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:12.800
than your average person, you know, And I mean with

614
00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:15.199
them circling there for as long as they did, that's

615
00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:20.000
not really surprising. But it was wide enough to where

616
00:39:20.920 --> 00:39:25.400
I could stand broad and my buddy that was on

617
00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:28.519
that that ring with us, he could stand next to

618
00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:33.639
me without touching, without either was touching, you know, either

619
00:39:33.679 --> 00:39:36.559
side of that that brush that they have broken down, now,

620
00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:38.320
I don't mean both of the us like shoulder, but

621
00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:40.920
you know, shoulder to shoulder. He like, if he would

622
00:39:40.920 --> 00:39:43.239
have been facing me and I would have been standing broad,

623
00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:46.280
we would have been able to fit completely. Fine, So

624
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:47.920
about a man and a half.

625
00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:56.760
Wide, gotcha? In the how let's say you're looking at

626
00:39:56.800 --> 00:39:59.840
one track, and then you're looking at the track U

627
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:02.960
next in line, and then then one next in line.

628
00:40:03.119 --> 00:40:06.599
How far apart were the tracks usually?

629
00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:12.960
Oh, that would be an estimate. I don't know, uh,

630
00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:16.239
like I said it would. There weren't very many tracks

631
00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:19.000
that especially not in succession, that we could see, gotcha,

632
00:40:19.159 --> 00:40:23.079
But I had to guess, I mean just going based

633
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:27.280
on you know, human proportions. You know, I wouldn't say

634
00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:30.440
that they that they would Their stride would have been

635
00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:33.559
much more than us. But again, they had circled and

636
00:40:33.559 --> 00:40:36.840
circled and circled us for hours, so they would have

637
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:40.800
been stepping over each over each one multiple times, aside

638
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:43.559
from the ones that were closer where they had probably

639
00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:45.920
stopped to throw something at us, you know what I mean?

640
00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:53.519
Yeah, absolutely, m it'll be interesting to see, uh you know,

641
00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:56.000
once I put this up to see if there's other

642
00:40:56.039 --> 00:41:00.480
people that have had things happen in the same area.

643
00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:03.320
That's usually how it works with these There'll be people

644
00:41:03.320 --> 00:41:06.599
that reach out and they'll say, oh, yeah, I've been

645
00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:11.000
in state forest stuff has happened, so that will be

646
00:41:11.679 --> 00:41:14.440
that will be interesting. Do you ever have any desire

647
00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:20.880
to to have a visual sighting of one or really

648
00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:23.679
it's just you're kind of going along your business and

649
00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:26.400
still trying to go out and camp.

650
00:41:26.239 --> 00:41:29.639
In the woods. I would have loved to have been

651
00:41:29.639 --> 00:41:32.559
able to actually have seen something the way at least

652
00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:35.639
I knew I could put a face to whatever it was,

653
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:40.360
But it just I didn't get that opportunity. But like

654
00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:42.360
I said, I'm I'm not going to go out there

655
00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:46.280
and actively, you know, look for that. You know, if

656
00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:48.760
it happens, it happens kind of thing, you know.

657
00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:53.599
Absolutely. Yet it's just something where you know, I haven't

658
00:41:53.639 --> 00:41:57.760
even had that happen myself yet, and I'm not sure. Well,

659
00:41:57.760 --> 00:42:01.639
I mean I've talked to any of people where they

660
00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:03.800
have to happen and it affects them, But to have

661
00:42:03.840 --> 00:42:09.079
that happen to yourself is a different story in it's

662
00:42:09.159 --> 00:42:12.239
just it's a totally different story. But Jim, I just

663
00:42:12.280 --> 00:42:15.400
want to say thank you for coming on the show.

664
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:20.239
To share what you and your your buddies experienced that

665
00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:22.639
night out in the Elk State Forest. It's a new

666
00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:27.599
area for us to look into for Pennsylvania, and I

667
00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:29.960
appreciate you coming on. I do want to make sure

668
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:33.400
that you were able to share everything that you had

669
00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:35.119
come on the show to share it tonight.

670
00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:39.760
Uh. Yeah, pretty much without actually seeing anything. There's not

671
00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:41.880
really much more to put into it. It was just

672
00:42:42.159 --> 00:42:46.440
you know, explaining experience, you know, because that's essentially all

673
00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:49.480
it was. You know, we didn't none of us had

674
00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:54.280
seen anything, and none of my friends that had had

675
00:42:55.239 --> 00:42:59.440
it told me since then that they had heard anything

676
00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:03.119
or it'd seen anything. And I would just assume that,

677
00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:06.800
like myself, we didn't see it. You know, we had

678
00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:11.239
not seen anything, but there was undoubtedly something out there

679
00:43:11.280 --> 00:43:12.599
with us, you know.

680
00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:15.840
Oh, no doubt about it. And you know, I would

681
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:18.800
say if anything ever happens when you guys are out

682
00:43:18.840 --> 00:43:23.199
in the Allegheny National Forest, definitely feel free to reach out.

683
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:26.599
There's been you know, sightings in that area, there have

684
00:43:26.639 --> 00:43:31.159
been people that have been affected by infrasound in that area.

685
00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:34.480
So there's a lot of interesting reports that happened over

686
00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:36.199
the years.

687
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:39.320
We'll have to look into it. Uh, but yeah, I

688
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:41.840
know absolutely. If I ever have another experience or even

689
00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:44.199
with one of my friends, do I'll have them reach

690
00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:47.719
out to you. But yeah, no, if anything happens to me,

691
00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:49.800
Bricks and I will make sure I'll let you know.

692
00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:53.920
Fantastic. Well, thanks for chatting tonight, Jim. I do appreciate it.

693
00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:55.360
Yeah, thank you for having me.

694
00:43:55.599 --> 00:43:57.159
I just wanted to take a minute to say thank

695
00:43:57.159 --> 00:43:59.119
you for listening to this episode of The big Foot

696
00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:02.000
Society podcast. Gym's encounter is the kind that linkers, not

697
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:04.400
because of what he saw, but because of what he

698
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:07.960
couldn't see. The silence, the rocks, the circling, the moment

699
00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:11.400
that he realized that something was watching and it didn't

700
00:44:11.400 --> 00:44:14.679
care if he was armed or not. So huge thanks

701
00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:16.760
to Jim for coming on and sharing such a raw

702
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:20.519
personal story. These moments remind us why we listen and

703
00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:24.440
why some trails are better left on trodden. If you

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Pennsylvania around Elk State Forest, Wharton or the Alleghany Forest,

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the Big for Society. Until next time, trust your gut,

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stay curious, and keep your eyes on the tree line

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and see you in the woods.