June 21, 2025

Caught in the Headlights! | New Hampshire

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Season 1

What happens when a man grieving the loss of his best friend takes a late-night drive through the woods of New Hampshire — and locks eyes with something that shouldn’t exist? In this gripping and emotional episode, we talk with Evan, the creator of New Hampshire Sasquatch, about the night that changed everything. From a roadside encounter on Stevens Hill Road to a face-to-face with a massive, intelligent creature with auburn red eyeshine and orangutan-like arms, this is no blurry photo or secondhand tale — it’s a direct, chilling experience. You’ll hear how Evan’s encounter led him to uncover other reports around Quincy Pond, Pawtuckaway State Park, and the Osipee Triangle, and how a cast of footprints discovered years later might confirm he wasn’t alone that night. Whether you believe in Sasquatch or not, this episode will make you question what’s out there in the fog-drenched woods of New England.

Resources:

Contact Evan - newhampshiresasquatch@gmail.com
https://www.instagram.com/new_hampshire_sasquatch/
https://www.youtube.com/@newhampshiresasquatch6869
Brian and Chewie Go Hiking Youtube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@brianandchewiegohiking
Bigfoot Beyond the Trail about the events discussed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytRlX0VRXEU

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You're listening to Big for Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron

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Tonight's account is from a man that mourned the loss

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of his best friend and trying to escape his thoughts

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with a midnight drive through the dark woods of New Hampshire.

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But what he found on Stevens Hill Road was enclosure.

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It was eight and a half feet tall, humanoid, intelligent

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and staring back at him through a cloud of frozen breath.

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This is the story of Evan and what he saw

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that night. So stay with us, all right, Big for Society.

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We got the privilege of talking to Evan today from

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New Hampshire. Sasquatch. You may have heard that term brought

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up in maybe a small town Monster production about New Hampshire.

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But Evan, welcome to the show. How's it going.

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Today, Hey Jeremiah, how are you doing.

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I'm doing great. You know, it's tough to get people

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from your state or New England onto the show. I

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talked to a lot of people from you know, Pacific Northwest,

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but it is always fun to talk to people from

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New England. I myself grew up about five hundred feet

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away from New Hampshire. That's over in route ten, just

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you know, kind of south of Keyene and Swansea and

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all that area. So I think in a different area

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of the state, but you know, in New Hampshire is

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such a beautiful area and I'm finding more and more

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that there are definitely there's big foot activity happening in

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this state. Listeners will remember that I actually just talked

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to an individual that I hope this will be out

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that had a few things happen in Bearbrook State Park

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to the just outside of Conquered in Manchester. I believe so.

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But yeah, Evan, you know, do you mind taking a

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few minutes talking about Sharon how you were able to

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first get involved with the sasquatch phenomenon to begin with.

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Yeah, so back in I believe it was twenty nineteen,

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right before the pandemic started. My ex girlfriend actually had

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the idea of me starting a page after I had

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an encounter the year prior, in twenty eighteen, and basically

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it was a perfect timeframe. You know, I just had

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my kid in January of twenty twenty, and that's where

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I really started kicking it off. I wanted to get

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a little bit more representation for New Hampshire as a

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whole and the Northeast for that matter, since I've grown

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into that footprint, so to say, so, I try to

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give a voice to the people that really don't have

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like these outlets like they do out in the Pacific

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Northwest with a far south. Up in the Northeast, it's

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really taboo to say the least. Yeah, we have like

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the Krippozoology Museum up in Portland, Maine, but we really

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don't have a lot otherwise, a lot of the BFRO

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researchers aren't exactly active anymore. So I decided to jump

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in and take that, take that little space in there,

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kind of fill the power gap in a way.

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That's fantastic. So it sounds like you kind of got

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involved with things around well really probably the same time

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that a lot of people listening to this. There was,

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you know, around the time of the pandemic and twenty nineteen,

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et cetera, twenty twenty. A lot of people I think

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got into the subject because they were bored or they

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need something to do. And you know mine was I

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got started around February twenty nineteen myself. But you know,

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you mentioned that you had had an actual sighting that

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kind of kick things off as well. Do you mind

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sharing about what you experienced with your sighting out there

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in New Hampshire.

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Yeah, so this happened the night after well, the night

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of Thanksgiving back in twenty eighteen. So I was driving

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around one night on Stephen Stephens Hill Road over in Nottingham,

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New Hampshire, and I was going pretty quickly. At the time.

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I was mourning the loss of one of my best

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friends that passed away just prior. And as I was

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taking a corner on Stevens Hill Road, my high beams

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in my twenty fifteen Nissan Altima that I had at

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the time picked up well I thought to be reflectors

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on a tree, and as I got closer, basically an

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arm raised up to block out what I came to

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find out was these creatures eyes. This creature I affectionately

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nicknamed Quincy based off the pond that's just to the south,

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literally a couple hundred feet away from where I had

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my encounter, was standing on the side of the road,

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almost like I caught it in mid stride, and I

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remember I came to a stop. I can't exactly remember

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how far was away. I think it was around like

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twenty thirty feet roughly, and I stopped, and as I

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was sitting there, it slowly wrote lowered its arm away

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from its eyes, and its eyes were like this brick

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auburn red reflection. It wasn't like an eye well, it

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was eyeshine. It was not any form of bioluminescence or

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like glowing. I only knew this because it turned its

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head at one point and it lost that eye shine.

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So it kind of looks at me, kind of like

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a disappointed parent would, kind of like what are you

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doing here? Kind of like scolding me. And as I'm

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sitting there just in utter awe, it puffs out its

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cheeks and a plume of steam from its mouth, just

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absolutely so that basically makes like a cloud around it

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because of the cold weather and all that. And then it turns,

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looks over to its left, looks back, and then goes

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down the hill to the side. A couple of descriptions

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about this creature, Well, this being that I noticed that

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has stuck with me. Some people make fun of me

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for it. Hence Brian Garvey, for example, one of your

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former guests. I did observe Genitalia. It was certainly a male,

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and its four arms had longer hair on it almost

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kind of like a ringadang's And I can see when

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it had its arms up, it had the kind of

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like a reddish orange tint. Otherwise the hair was black,

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but that was from the high beams were going through,

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like the hair follicles and that type of stuff, and

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all the strand strands of hair. And you can see

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little bits of frost that were like entangled in the

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hair as well.

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I just want to point out real quick if people

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know the YouTube channel it was Brian and chew Ego Hiking.

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That's that's the Brian Garvey that was just referred to.

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It's a good guy.

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Yeah, a little funny, Yeah, Yeah, I love I love Bryan.

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I love Bryan.

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It's a funny guy. So that is extremely interesting.

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Man.

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It makes you wonder, like the part where you said

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it puffed out its cheeks. I wonder if yeah, I

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wonder if it made any noise. But you wouldn't have

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been able to hear because you're inside the car. But

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you hear so many witnesses sometimes they'll say like it

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made a noise, like a huff or a huffing noise,

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you know what I mean.

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So when I was in my car. I remember I

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was specifically listening to a song called Campfire Cologne, and

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I remember I was not able to hear it, well

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hear the quincy as I call him, make the noise,

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and I had it pretty high up in the value

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to say the least, you know, trying to drown out

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the thoughts of loss in a way. But yeah, I mean,

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I'm kind of scared to know what it would sound

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like if I did hear it without anything disturbing us,

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like the music.

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Remind me again how recent it was that you had,

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so that the loss you were going through that was

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very very recent.

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With yes, like within you know, within twenty thirty days. Yeah, okay, Yeah,

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the guy that passed away was basically I grew up

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with him. He was basically my brother at that point.

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So have you this is this is a really is

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a tricky is a tricky tricky topic because there's, you know,

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this really emotional time that is involved for you. But

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it's it's a pattern that I've noticed where sometimes if

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there's like a really intense traumatic event that can have

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some kind of connection with these sightings. Have you ever

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thought of that yourself or or have any thoughts about that?

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You know, I really haven't thought about it too much,

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like as like I've began to like research and all

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that I'm not a fan of, like the whole supernatural

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aspect of it, or you know, some other questionable topics

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that some people claim to believe in. But you know,

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I have heard, as you mentioned, of people like having

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a traumatic experience before that before their encounter. You know,

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it's you know, very possible. Maybe just I think our

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paths just crossed, and uh, in life, that's all. I

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think it was just happened to be in the right

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place at the right time, or in the wrong place

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at the wrong time, as some people would say when

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they come across something that can be as life changing

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as sighting.

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Absolutely, I'm not sure if I will keep this in

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but for curiosity's sake, because you did bring it up.

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So when you you visually saw that it was a male,

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is that just that it was quite evident or where

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there things happening that made Brian pretty much made make

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fun of you for it because you brought it up.

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You know, he no, he's you know, I love Brian.

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Me and him joke around about it all the time.

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It's just funny because not a lot of people bring

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it up. Let's just say I just got a good

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view of it for the most part, since it was

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like right at my head level, straight ahead. Oh wow.

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So yeah, so, and we we joke around about it

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when we go to Whitehall and you know, we meet

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up for like other excursions and that type of stuff.

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You know, every once in a while, we'll always poke

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fun at it. But yeah, I'm not sure how much

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in detail you want me to go down on.

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Yeah, you know, it's it is really you bring up

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the point where and some witnesses do definitely bring this up.

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Is that just the viewpoint of in being a car

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like that, you know, you were kind of lower and

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on the ground.

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Right lower mid size you know, well yeah, lower midsize sedan,

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I mean around that, yeah, probably would be around it's

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like hip area would be the top of the car roughly,

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probably a little bit lower.

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Did you notice anything out of the ordinary the way

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that it was moving as it continued to walk into

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the woods.

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Just that it was I mean, it was covering a

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good bit of hair, but it was It wasn't like

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seeing a deer. It wasn't like you can tell that

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this thing, you know, had more than two brain cells.

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I just told it to, you know, walk across the road,

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eat and breed. This thing definitely had an intelligence to it. It.

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I don't want to call it predatory, but it definitely

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had like this conscious look to it. It was the

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more and more I think about it, it had like

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a purpose on like how it was moving. It was thinking,

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you know, And we actually have a theory that came

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up after this. I don't want to get too far,

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but it might have been looking out for another individual

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as well, gotcha. But it expressed like attitude and like

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questioning in a way kind of like the face was

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definitely like a why are you here? That person isn't

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supposed to be out here at this time of night.

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Absolutely, it's you know, there's a difference, at least I

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think personally, and other people might think differently. But you know,

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you look at an animal like a let's see, well

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let's say a dear, you look at a human and

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it's you're looking at a different type of thing. I mean, yeah,

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one can show emotions, the other one not really unless

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I just don't get out in the woods and I'm

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not a hunter, so maybe they do, and I just

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don't know, but yeah, that's that's that's extremely interesting. You

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were able to see, you know, take a look in

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its face for a bit. And I'm sure you've heard

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different people talk about how how the Bigfoot looked when

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they had their sighting. Were there any features about the

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face that stick out in your memory that were like, yeah,

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that the one thing was just very very strange.

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You know. I want to quote Animal Planet from back

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in the day, and I say surprisingly human their old

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motto that they have there. I described the face as

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looking almost like of like Pacific Island descent or like

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Native American descent. Just like the facial features, like some

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of the cheek, the no structure, the brow structure. It

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looked a lot more like a human or like proto

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human than it would have like an ape.

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That makes sense. Were you able to notice anything about

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the eyes at all?

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Nothing, nothing besides like the actual like eyeshine that was reflecting.

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I mean, they're pretty big eyes. But like I mentioned

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to you before, you know, eyes are like the doorway

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to the soul. You can tell that there was something

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intelligent behind its eyes. It's not just blankly looking at

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you like a moose or deer that are just programmed

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off of just instinct and you know, either the need

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of food or water, shelter or reproduction or self perseverance,

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absolutely preservation.

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My apologies, I may have missed taking a note on this.

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Did you happen to mention how tall you would approximate

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it to be?

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So, when before Brian and I went out to you know,

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investigate it, I believed it to be around the high

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sixes low sevens seven and maybe seven and a half

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or lower in that area. When we went back out

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we measured it, it was around about eight and a

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half foot. Yeah, around the eight and a half foot

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area in the way that I tell where I can

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go with well, the reason why I can have such

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a good reference with it is this road, stevens Ville Road,

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and you it's just a very very I mean, it's

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pretty a narrow dirt road. It's not too narrow. You

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can still get by with two vehicles. But when the

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snowplows go through there, the snowplows are hitting trees and

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all different types of stuff. So there's a nice nasty

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mark from a snowplow on one of the trees that

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I can identify where I have the encounter and that's

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a reference point that I have, and that's where we

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measured off of.

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Gotcha, you'd mentioned moose earlier, and you know I've taken

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a few trips up to northern New Hampshire, so I've

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seen more than a few moose, and I'm sure you

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have as well. How did this? How did this guy?

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Or you know what you saw? How did it? You know,

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if you were to put it next to a normal

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size let's say, male moose, would it be would it

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be uh, would it be around the same size or

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a little bit shorter or or what do you think?

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You know? I got to be really subjective with the

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whole moose thing, because there is a lot of different

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sizes when it comes to moose. I mean you have

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the ones that range up from like Alaska. I mean

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even in this area in New Hampshire, you have like

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some that are definitely off of I'm differently gene Pool.

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I meant to call them the Northern giants for like

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just how big they actually can be. I would say

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that it was probably a round the size of or

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a little bit bigger than a full grown bowl.

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Okay, so.

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Definitely definitely, definitely big. And that was one of the

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things that I like, if it was a little bit

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you know, shorter around like the six foot around that area,

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I would say like, yeah, it was around the same

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size or a little bit bigger. But this thing was

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definitely bigger after the amount of moves I've seen in

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comparing it, especially when I went out recently and just

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thought about that exact topic, this thing was bigger. It

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wasn't a whole lot bigger, but it was. It wasn't

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like this big like tank. It was muscular, It was proportionate.

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Some people describe this assquatch that they see as blocky.

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Mind was more like a kind of like an apathletic build.

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But yeah, I mean definitely was bigger than probably a bull,

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not including the antlers.

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Gotcha. Some people will say witnesses will describe the head

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shape in different ways. Do you remember anything to do

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with the shape of the head of what you saw?

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It was more or less regular shape. I know a

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lot of people, and this is where I go back

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and reflect on a lot of people describe it as

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like a gorilla or even like a chimpanzee or anything

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like that. There was no like conical headshet. It was

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a pretty normal headshape. Then again, it did have a

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good bit of hair, so that could be deceiving. And

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you also have to remember it was nighttime. It was

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pretty pretty uh dark out, especially in that area, so

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there was that aspect of it. But I do not

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recall seeing any conical shape. I don't remember like seeing

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like the kind of like the neck muscles making it

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was kind of like necklace as people UH describe. It

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was a very very close to like a extremely large

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human being, so as I would describe with the primal features.

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Right, did it show its teeth at any time when

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you were looking at it?

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Didn't it? So from what I recall, it did not

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like flare its teeth at all. I know a lot

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of primates as like a simic corression. People will like say, oh,

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the monkey's smiling at me at the zoo or anything

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like that, and it will be the territorial display or

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just like a threatening display kind of like chimps doe.

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Nothing like that at all.

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When you had this sighting and then it went away

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into the words how did this immediately affect you at

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that point.

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More or less? I mean I was younger back then.

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If I was older, i'd probably have a better hold

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on my emotions and that type of stuff and able

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to process it more. But it was more likely, well

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it was more so I just bleep and saw it's that.

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Squatch before this uh sighting you had, was it a

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thing where you were into the subject at all, or

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did it just this came out of you know, left

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field and you're like, oh my goodness, I'm having a

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citing what is this? Or did you already kind of

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know what you were? You were in the middle of.

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So that I mean, I was in my younger years.

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I was into cryptozoology as I got older, you know,

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in my late mid late teens, and that type of stuff.

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That's where I started to sort of lose interest in

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a way. And I because I was seeing a lot

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of like just fake stuff popping up and a lot

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of people promoting you know, fake blatantly fake in hoaxes,

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which is basically at the the point that I was.

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But yes, I did have a little bit of interest

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in uh, you know the unknown, you know, Bigfoot, Yes,

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was one of them. But it wasn't like a total

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like Bigfoot on the brain sort of thing. Right.

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It sounds like you were not going out that night

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to be like, Okay, I'm gonna go see if I can.

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See at right.

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Yeah, now you're probably just, I would guess, trying to

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clear your head. And that's what happened.

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Yeah, it was a pretty traumatic time, as you can imagine.

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And I mean, yeah, like have I played around with

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like the thought of Bigfoot before and you know, the

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ideas watching at that point? Yeah, I mean, because that

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was at like the golden age of you know that

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sort of TV. You know, Finding Bigfoot was in a

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pretty good swing back then. A lot of people are

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watching Finding Bigfoot, which I definitely don't believe a lot

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of you know, the mainstream media stuff at all, But

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you know, it's the friends I had back then. We

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were definitely into like the whole adventuring. We were hiking

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a lot, all that stuff. We love the sense of adventure,

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not known, but that's as far as I would put it.

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So then after you have this sighting, and then I

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would imagine you keep on driving, do you end up

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going directly to home? Do you talk to people about

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what happened? Or is this something where you keep it

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to yourself for a while.

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I kept it to myself for a while. I didn't

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really speak to anybody after my buddy's funeral, So I

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kept it to myself and I only brought it up

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to my ex because she brought it up. And you know,

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it took a little bit of time from me to

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like bring it up to her, but you know, she

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brought it up like the whole mystery and unknown stuff

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before that, So yeah, I mean it definitely took me

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a while. Then I started hearing podcasts and all that

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type of stuff, you know, people sharing their encounters experiences,

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and then I realized, as I mentioned, like, hey, I'm

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not hearing anything about Hampshire. I'm not hearing anything about

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the northeast or anything like that. So you know, the

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thought of it kind of, you know, welled up over time,

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and that's how I got here today.

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That's awesome. I would imagine that you've probably done a

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bit of research into this area where you had your sighting,

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Is that right?

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Yes?

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Okay, are there any other situations that you've uncovered or

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things about the area that kind of helps lend credence

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to the encounter that you had in that area?

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So, I mean, I'm sure you're aware from having Brian

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Garvey on and me and him were going to document

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the areas where we both had our encounters. And this

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was back in I believe twenty twenty two, around the

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end of March. We met up in Portsmouth, New Hampshire,

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Portsmouth Newington, New Hampshire that day. Brian lives down in

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Rhode Island, so he had to meet me up here

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and he had his encounter up in the northern New Hampshire,

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up in the White Mountains with his tent encounter. So

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we were going to go document those, you know, kind

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of get like a whole gist of what happened, kind

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of like story tell along in a way that like

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what happened with me here today. So we go to

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stephen Hill Road and we pull a little pull off

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area right down the road and Brian always has his

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skill pro on, even for Chewie. So as we're walking,

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you know, he is recording, and I point out the

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area where it happened along the side of the road

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and I'm always looking at the ground for tracks, always

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trying to observe and to the right side of the road.

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There was an impression that Chewey almost stepped in, so

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I told Chewie, hey, Chewie, no, kind of get him

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away from the area, and I'm kind of looking at it,

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and it's the shape of a bipedal you know, foot

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along the lines of what a person's or a sasquatches

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a humanoid foot front. I see tone impressions. So I

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stand up. I'm just like, I mean, I'm sure for

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the people that might have seen the video, we're both

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freaking out, you know, we could not believe at that

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point that we possibly came across an impression like that.

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So Brian and I decide to, you know, look around.

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I found one more impression on my on the right

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side of the road where we found the original print

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and a couple other you know, indentations in the leaves

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behind it, and on Brian's side the road. He's looking

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on his side and he finds, well, it's basically the

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what I can remember the best track that we got

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out of the trackway up on the side of the

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slope going towards the woods and a set of power

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lines which you know, I'll get to with you later,

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but yeah, we found to very prominent toe impressions and

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we're freaking out, and we call our friend Alex Batakov,

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which I'm sure, well, I know you're familiar with, So

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we get him out there and we get everything properly documented,

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because there's, to our knowledge, besides what someone had on

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the BFRO, there was not a properly catalogued trackway in

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the state of New Hampshire or for the most part,

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in the Northeast in general. So yeah, that was our

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goal at the time. Had some weird encounters with the

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local people passing through there in which I've never seen

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more cars pull through there, And you just have me

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standing with my vehicle right over one of the tracks

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to try to make sure no one hit it, and

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even to the point that someone with a little boat

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pulled up try down to get down to Quincy Pond,

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which is a small, small little boat boat ramp sort

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of thing. You can only bring like a little paddle

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boat or canoe or anything like that with a trolling

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motor or anything. That's all. That's the biggest nautical vehicle

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that you can bring. And I'm standing over there in

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the way of these guys, and I don't want to

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tell them what's going on because I don't want to

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look like a crazy person, even though I was basically

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making myself look like a crazy person standing over this

461
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:56.599
track and making sure that they don't step in it.

462
00:32:58.279 --> 00:33:00.279
So yeah, we got some pretty good cast from that.

463
00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:06.559
We got well documented. Alex caught up Cliff Barrettman, you know,

464
00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:08.880
try to get some tips on how to cast these things,

465
00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:12.880
because we just want to have these things properly cast

466
00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:21.240
and properly documented. Got his help, you know, so, and

467
00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:25.240
Alex sent out you know, photos and that type of stuff

468
00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:29.279
to different researchers and that type of stuff. So yeah,

469
00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:32.319
that was definitely one of the biggest things that happened

470
00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:35.200
at that location, to say the least. I mean, especially

471
00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:38.680
almost exactly in the same spot that I had my

472
00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:40.119
encounter years prior.

473
00:33:41.799 --> 00:33:46.440
That is that's fantastic. And as you're talking about that

474
00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:50.960
the events, I'm like, okay, yeah, I remember, I am

475
00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:54.200
remembering this now. Yeah, but it's so cool that it

476
00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:59.759
happened in pretty much the same area. Have you heard

477
00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:04.359
of of other actual sightings happening in the same area

478
00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:04.799
as well?

479
00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:12.639
Yeah, actually, so we so real quick. I apologize for

480
00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:15.440
getting sidetracked, but there was a theory that we came

481
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:19.280
up with because we believe that my the sasquatch that

482
00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:23.280
I saw was definitely bigger when produced. The bigger prince.

483
00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:26.639
We believe that there was possibly a juvenile that night

484
00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:29.199
when I was out there, and that those prints were

485
00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:37.159
possibly the same juvenile from that made the Prince definitely

486
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:40.159
older now. But I believe that's the reason why he

487
00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:44.440
kind of quincy looked over to his side, possibly to

488
00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:48.760
get maybe a member of his family or anything like that,

489
00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:52.800
a chance for them to get away by distracting me

490
00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:58.159
by standing there like he did and not just taken

491
00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:02.599
off immediately. So there is that. That's a little theory

492
00:35:02.599 --> 00:35:06.239
that we have about that one. But yes, back to

493
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:11.679
what you're saying with encounters in the area, we actually

494
00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:17.119
uncovered a fair number of encounters that happened within that facility.

495
00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:24.159
And when it comes to that there, I mean, Quincy

496
00:35:24.199 --> 00:35:28.360
Pond is a great water source for them, and it's

497
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:34.079
also right off a huge set of power lines that

498
00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:38.280
go across a good portion of the state, at least

499
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:41.960
the eastern part of the stake. And there was one

500
00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:45.480
guy that was directly through the woods that had two

501
00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:53.480
different town police officers come out to investigate something that

502
00:35:53.639 --> 00:35:58.760
clearly had two feet stomping around his property and the

503
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:03.119
ice in the marsh behind his property. I cannot bring

504
00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:05.239
up his name because he does not want to share

505
00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:08.760
his name. The last time I checked with him, but

506
00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:14.119
he was interviewed by Alex on the Small Town Monsters documentary.

507
00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:17.960
It was a smaller documentary that they did for that.

508
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:21.000
It was I believe it was a beyond a trail episode.

509
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:24.559
But yeah, we had a report come off of the

510
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:31.239
BFRO which I have yet to find out who exactly

511
00:36:31.639 --> 00:36:35.920
this person is, but I am familiar with the area

512
00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:42.719
itself where it happened. And they reported seeing a blue

513
00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:47.719
eyed sasquatch while they were riding a bike, which is

514
00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:51.760
pretty intriguing, which I've never heard of that, but it's

515
00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:58.119
definitely very very interesting in that case. And there's been

516
00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:01.760
reports from bear Brook, which aren't far which isn't far away.

517
00:37:03.719 --> 00:37:06.679
A couple of years ago, I was talking to a woman.

518
00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:09.400
I complimented her on her shirt. She had a big

519
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:14.119
foot on her shirt and uh, that was stealing some

520
00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:17.119
beer and I told her nice shirt, and she looked

521
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:19.400
at me. She was like, oh, thank you. You know

522
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:22.519
they're real right told me about that, saying that she

523
00:37:23.039 --> 00:37:26.679
saw her route I went cross the road on Route

524
00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:31.320
four which is just to the north. Didn't get a

525
00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:34.360
lot of info out of her since I was working

526
00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:37.079
at a different place at that time and it would

527
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:39.239
not be appropriate for me to go on and ask

528
00:37:39.239 --> 00:37:44.280
stuff like that. But yeah, so we uncovered quite a

529
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:48.519
bit report and even some that came from patuck Away

530
00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:53.559
to the south to patuck Away State Park, which is

531
00:37:54.079 --> 00:38:01.480
fairly busy and trafficked I believe affect state Park, but

532
00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:04.760
there is some pretty wild areas in there that not

533
00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:05.559
a lot of people go.

534
00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:12.400
That is that is really interesting. So there's people that

535
00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:16.239
have had visual sightings in patuck Away.

536
00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:26.880
You're saying, correct, Okay, there's been vocal encounters in patuck Away.

537
00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:31.639
I believe I have a couple on my page. Unfortunately,

538
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:33.920
I need to get a lot more organized with my

539
00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:36.320
research stuff since I was out of it for a

540
00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:39.000
little bit, and you know, being someone that was in

541
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:43.159
their early twenties when they first started out, Instagram was

542
00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:48.880
my main way of storing my documents, and unfortunately I

543
00:38:48.920 --> 00:38:52.440
did lose some based off of well from Google and

544
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:59.320
you know, trusting to save messages on Instagram where some

545
00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:01.599
people would actually they send it and they would have

546
00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:05.920
I believe it's called vanish mode on so it would

547
00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:10.800
delete their encounter and I wish I could reach out

548
00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:17.199
to those people, but people are pretty skeptical and pretty

549
00:39:18.639 --> 00:39:21.239
well they like to keep to themselves with stuff around here,

550
00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:24.039
and it's very taboo with the topic a sasquatch in Northeast,

551
00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:26.960
to say the least. Besides if he goes like Whitehall

552
00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:30.039
or one of those areas, because there's definitely a lot

553
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:33.280
of crazy people that you know, they play in that

554
00:39:33.480 --> 00:39:37.360
you know, Bigfoot took their beef jerky or something weird

555
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:39.039
like that, or Bigfoot goes in sort of house and

556
00:39:39.079 --> 00:39:42.280
has tea with them, which that's literally some things that

557
00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:44.119
I have reports on.

558
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:47.960
Oh gosh, and you've taken those yourself.

559
00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:52.440
You're saying, yeah, yeah, I mean, obviously you've got to

560
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:56.280
vet a lot of the people that, I mean, send

561
00:39:56.320 --> 00:39:59.159
you reports you got, I would have to.

562
00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:02.719
I've had a now one hundred and fifty reports a

563
00:40:02.760 --> 00:40:06.440
little bit over since I started. It's definitely slowed down

564
00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:10.119
a little bit because I haven't been too active over

565
00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:15.880
the last year to two years. But I plan to

566
00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:21.599
get more active, thankfully with that. But yeah, there's been

567
00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:24.519
way too many people that are out there that think

568
00:40:24.599 --> 00:40:29.320
that I mean, sasquatching aliens will go in their living

569
00:40:29.400 --> 00:40:32.480
room and that type of stuff will walk right up

570
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:38.679
to their house in the middle of a city. For

571
00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:43.760
some people that I know, they know the story of

572
00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:49.559
an individual that had aliens going into his house as

573
00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:52.840
well as sasquatch coming to dance on his property listening

574
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:58.719
to music in middle of downtown Nashua, which is pretty

575
00:40:59.360 --> 00:40:59.880
out there.

576
00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:02.280
That's pretty intense.

577
00:41:03.559 --> 00:41:05.119
Oh yeah, do you.

578
00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:07.280
Have any thoughts?

579
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:07.760
You know?

580
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:14.760
Well, I if a person who's not familiar with with sasquatch,

581
00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:18.039
if I said, hey, look at a map of New Hampshire,

582
00:41:18.199 --> 00:41:20.320
make sure that you can see where the mountains are.

583
00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:23.400
What's your guests as to where the sasquatch are, they'd

584
00:41:23.440 --> 00:41:26.719
probably say, oh, I'm seeing all these mountains up to

585
00:41:26.760 --> 00:41:31.960
the north where it says White Mountain National Forest. Do

586
00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:37.519
you think that these are sightings spread out pretty much

587
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:40.719
all throughout the entire state or do you think there's

588
00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:44.440
just parts where there's going to be more sightings like

589
00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:47.320
this area that you guys have kind of found in

590
00:41:47.360 --> 00:41:48.880
the southeast part of the state.

591
00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:52.599
Well, so I look into a lot of areas, not

592
00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:55.599
just New Hampshire and not just southern New Hampshire. I

593
00:41:55.719 --> 00:42:02.119
actually just having report come to me from a pretty

594
00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:07.440
I I don't want to say the exact area, but

595
00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:12.559
an area of some high strangeness, as I gotta say,

596
00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:19.599
a lot of history, Bigfoot, even UFOs, ghosts, you know

597
00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:26.679
that type of stuff. It's it's a lesser known area.

598
00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:31.480
It's actually referred to as a triangle. It's I'm just

599
00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:34.920
going to say the name of the not the exact

600
00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:37.440
name of the area, but it's called the Aspy Triangle,

601
00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:44.119
which is basically New Hampshire's you know, either Bennington Triangle

602
00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:51.000
or the Bridgewater Triangle down in mass So, I mean,

603
00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:54.880
there's definitely some hotspot areas that we have up here

604
00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:59.599
in a Hampshire, but they pretty are pretty widespread. We

605
00:42:59.719 --> 00:43:03.000
even have some reports that come closer to the sea coast,

606
00:43:03.039 --> 00:43:08.039
which is pretty surprising. You know. Some of them aren't

607
00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:13.800
the most what's the word I'm looking for, not probably

608
00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:20.239
reliable source, but a lot of them are that are

609
00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:24.599
the reliable sources come from like these very obscure and

610
00:43:25.360 --> 00:43:30.199
remote areas, and I always try to look for reports

611
00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:35.920
that have specific areas with them, but they definitely appear

612
00:43:36.039 --> 00:43:41.039
to take They definitely appear to like to travel along

613
00:43:41.079 --> 00:43:45.840
the power lines and the warmer areas of warmer pockets

614
00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:48.760
such as like sear swamps where like moose will also

615
00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:53.119
go into in the winter, or where like the food

616
00:43:53.239 --> 00:43:57.679
is you know, in seasons such as blueberries. We don't

617
00:43:57.760 --> 00:44:02.519
have like the elk, herds and different type of game

618
00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:07.360
area animals that they do over in the Pacific Northwest,

619
00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:13.039
so it's not like a whole thing of them, like

620
00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:17.719
migrating in the same spot, tracking herds and all that

621
00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:21.400
type of stuff. Blueberry season when that comes around, yes,

622
00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:24.960
I have no as a correlation with that. I noticed

623
00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:28.400
that quite a few of them are in mountain corridors

624
00:44:28.679 --> 00:44:33.960
and even the Appalachian Trail. But I can definitely tell

625
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:38.159
you this when it comes to reports, I think I

626
00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:45.840
may have besides my own, a couple of reports that

627
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:50.800
happened in the winter time or at least when all

628
00:44:50.840 --> 00:44:53.760
the leaves are off the trees, even though mine happened

629
00:44:54.840 --> 00:45:00.920
on Thanksgiving that I haven't seen much go on beyond that.

630
00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:05.840
They are definitely food driven, as it appears around here,

631
00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:09.800
and I think that if they were around up here

632
00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:16.519
in the wintertime we have an extremely active winter motorsports

633
00:45:16.559 --> 00:45:21.480
and even snowsports in general, I think there would definitely

634
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:25.519
be a lot more track signes for anything like that.

635
00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:29.519
If they were staying up here year round, or if

636
00:45:29.559 --> 00:45:33.559
they were traveling around in the winter time at least

637
00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:38.239
I definitely think they might go south or in southern

638
00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:44.159
areas via the at or different routes like that.

639
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:51.679
And two provide some examples. There's a lot of listeners

640
00:45:51.679 --> 00:45:58.039
that won't really get the whole winter sports motorsports thing.

641
00:45:59.320 --> 00:46:03.119
It's such a big deal. Like you've got snowmobiles or

642
00:46:03.239 --> 00:46:06.360
snow machines however you want to call them. In New Hampshire.

643
00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:10.719
From southern New Hampshire, you can drive a snowmobile all

644
00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:12.440
the way up to the Canadian border. At least you

645
00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:14.039
used to be able to. I don't know if you can't.

646
00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:16.440
Correct, but yeah, you can use still can. There's multiple

647
00:46:16.679 --> 00:46:18.559
there's multiple ways of doing it, and you can go

648
00:46:18.760 --> 00:46:24.360
completely unnoticed by a car for that matter, So I'm

649
00:46:24.440 --> 00:46:28.840
driving a car for from most people besides hearing your

650
00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:31.159
snowmobile or anything like that.

651
00:46:32.199 --> 00:46:37.679
Absolutely, have you ever heard any reports of interactions where

652
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:45.000
a bigfoot has been seen, like taking down a moose

653
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:46.719
or anything. I was I was just trying to think.

654
00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:50.320
I don't think I have myself personally, so.

655
00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:53.400
I haven't I don't believe I have anything about a

656
00:46:53.519 --> 00:47:02.920
moose specifically. I have heard reports of them like taking

657
00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:08.239
deer down. I have a couple of report. I have

658
00:47:08.280 --> 00:47:12.599
one report of one that was walking down a road,

659
00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:17.760
a back road in Strafford County with one hanging over

660
00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:22.039
his shoulder as I was walking using the path of

661
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:29.960
leash resistance down the road. And I've definitely had And

662
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:33.519
this is another thing that's gonna bother my buddy Brian

663
00:47:33.559 --> 00:47:38.079
mc garvey. He will know with the moult Cabot report

664
00:47:38.320 --> 00:47:42.760
that we have, they seem to be not so friendly

665
00:47:42.800 --> 00:47:47.760
towards dogs, at least a good portion of them when

666
00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:52.000
a dog will go after them, or they will try

667
00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:56.960
to ambush a dog at times, as it seemed with

668
00:47:57.039 --> 00:48:04.360
the Mount Cabot report. There's definitely it's definitely more aggression

669
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:09.320
towards them with dogs. But I haven't heard anything as

670
00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:12.960
in like moose for example. I mean, moose are few

671
00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:16.239
and far between up here anyways, Like you won't even

672
00:48:16.320 --> 00:48:18.960
notice them half the time. If they're standing in the

673
00:48:18.960 --> 00:48:23.119
woodline on the Sabath Road. They're very obscure. Not a

674
00:48:23.159 --> 00:48:27.840
lot of people go, you know, tracking them. It's not

675
00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:31.159
very smart to say the least, and I've definitely had

676
00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:35.360
some not so smart choices I've made myself with a moose,

677
00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:42.159
but they're very, very obscure. And if something like that

678
00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:48.400
is able to hide, such as a moose, sasquatch or

679
00:48:48.599 --> 00:48:52.239
you know what we call sasquatch, bigfoot, whatever you want

680
00:48:52.280 --> 00:48:55.159
to call it, I don't think they, especially with their

681
00:48:55.239 --> 00:48:58.639
level intelligence, they want to have an issue getting around

682
00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:01.639
detected themselves.

683
00:49:03.239 --> 00:49:06.639
Yeah, moose are such a weird thing there. You don't

684
00:49:06.679 --> 00:49:09.280
mess with them because they'll they'll walk right over your car,

685
00:49:09.320 --> 00:49:11.599
that's for sure. You better hit it and reverse and

686
00:49:12.039 --> 00:49:15.480
get out of there. At least that's what That's what

687
00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:18.039
I've stop in northern New Hampshire back in the day.

688
00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:22.400
Do you have any thoughts getting back to Bigfoot? Do

689
00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:26.559
you have any thoughts about what you think it is

690
00:49:26.599 --> 00:49:30.719
that we're dealing with When let's say a person asks, hey,

691
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:35.400
what do you feel bigfoot is out there? Maybe undiscovered

692
00:49:35.480 --> 00:49:41.000
primate or a lost the ancestor on the human tree.

693
00:49:41.960 --> 00:49:42.800
Any thoughts about that?

694
00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:51.719
So you know, I'm fairly big believer. I mean, if

695
00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:55.960
not entirely, I think it can go down two different ways.

696
00:49:56.960 --> 00:50:02.880
You have like Gigantopithecus black which is in our fossil records,

697
00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:09.920
which is basically a sasquatch all of its own, basically

698
00:50:09.920 --> 00:50:12.920
to the tea. I mean, it's a lot bulkier, but

699
00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:15.719
we have that in the fossil records, and the way

700
00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:20.920
that we actually discovered that creature was in an old

701
00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:24.440
Chinese medicine shops where they would actually grind up the

702
00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:29.760
teeth of a gigant Epithegus as medicine. So there is that.

703
00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:32.920
So who's to say that, you know, there's not other

704
00:50:33.039 --> 00:50:37.719
places that are I mean, such as like native tribes

705
00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:41.559
and that tip of stuff, which almost every single Native

706
00:50:41.559 --> 00:50:46.679
American tribe, at least natives to North America and around

707
00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:49.800
the world. We all have our own stories of sasquatch.

708
00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:59.119
Everywhere besides Antarctica has history of sasquatch from their native tribes,

709
00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:06.880
Aboriginal tribes, vibes absolutely every single one. So I definitely

710
00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:12.800
think that they do break off into like different subgroups,

711
00:51:12.840 --> 00:51:18.000
and I think that they are either descendants of well,

712
00:51:18.039 --> 00:51:24.239
I'm almost certain Jack anthrolopithic is Blackie, or at least

713
00:51:24.280 --> 00:51:28.000
a relative of that, which you know, they could have

714
00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:34.239
definitely crossed with humans at some point, but I'm not

715
00:51:34.360 --> 00:51:37.480
too sure where that would be. Well, I'm not going

716
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:42.239
to say Homo sapian exactly, but it could have been

717
00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:47.320
you know, Homo erectus or anything like that. I think

718
00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:50.239
we definitely there could have been a common ancestor in

719
00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:50.719
that matter.

720
00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:57.840
That's that's really interesting. It's it is. It's crazy how

721
00:51:58.159 --> 00:52:02.719
with this subject there's even you can get into, you know,

722
00:52:03.920 --> 00:52:05.800
just different parts of it. I think that's that's a

723
00:52:05.800 --> 00:52:09.519
big part, is what is it exactly? You can really

724
00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:14.360
go down that rabbit trail. Another thing that I've noticed

725
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:18.960
with encounters that I take, and I guess more on

726
00:52:19.039 --> 00:52:22.239
the West coast, But do you guys out there ever

727
00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:28.320
get any reports where the witness will say it looked

728
00:52:28.360 --> 00:52:32.199
like in orangutan or in the face or the way

729
00:52:32.199 --> 00:52:34.480
it was moving. Does that ever come up in witness

730
00:52:34.519 --> 00:52:36.000
reports that you receive out there?

731
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:40.159
So yeah, I mean we definitely have reports that are

732
00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:42.519
different as in like, you know, you have some that

733
00:52:42.559 --> 00:52:44.880
look like an orangutan, you got some that look like

734
00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:52.320
a chimpanzee. Even one more recent report describe the mouth,

735
00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:56.719
the shape, the jaw shape as more more or less

736
00:52:56.800 --> 00:53:00.440
like in a muzzled type of Look, I'm not saying

737
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:03.360
like a you know, a dog man type of thing,

738
00:53:03.400 --> 00:53:05.920
which I'm not exactly a fan of the whole dog man,

739
00:53:06.920 --> 00:53:12.079
not going to go into that, but I mean, how

740
00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:16.159
many different types of primates are out there. There's many,

741
00:53:16.239 --> 00:53:19.559
many types, a lot of which that we even share

742
00:53:19.760 --> 00:53:23.239
our DNA with. We're just another type of primate that's

743
00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:26.760
walking around. So I mean, we got the ones like

744
00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:29.800
mine that looks like a proto human or like a

745
00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:33.360
native person, kind of like the mixed features in that

746
00:53:34.599 --> 00:53:39.400
you have like a gugwie that almost reminds me of

747
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:44.679
from the reports of a babboon, which it has the

748
00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:53.440
same temperament basically as some babboons, very aggressive. And then

749
00:53:53.480 --> 00:53:56.079
you have like the skunk ape that kind of sounds

750
00:53:56.119 --> 00:53:59.719
more like a ringutan, or you have the ones that

751
00:53:59.760 --> 00:54:04.480
look like a chimpanzee. There's many, many I believe that

752
00:54:04.519 --> 00:54:12.679
there is different types, at least different genetic differences and

753
00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:17.480
possibly different regional variants. I mean, you can look at

754
00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:23.280
Darwin for example, it down in the Galopaclos Islands. You

755
00:54:23.440 --> 00:54:27.440
had different types of birds that had different types of

756
00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:30.880
beaks based on if they ate seeds or if they

757
00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:34.840
cracked nuts or anything like that. So there's a lot

758
00:54:34.880 --> 00:54:38.320
of things that you have to look at with evolution.

759
00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:41.119
There could be different evolution points, there could be different

760
00:54:43.280 --> 00:54:49.000
you know, traits being passed along different diets. There's a

761
00:54:49.039 --> 00:54:51.000
lot of different things that we have to consider. A

762
00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:53.320
lot of different bloodlines. I mean, not all big foot

763
00:54:53.320 --> 00:54:55.679
are going to be related to the cousin level in

764
00:54:55.719 --> 00:54:59.760
a way, especially the ones that are being reported over

765
00:54:59.840 --> 00:55:04.159
on Australia where I mean, yes, they're similar, they're not

766
00:55:04.199 --> 00:55:07.840
exactly the same, but you're not going to have like,

767
00:55:07.920 --> 00:55:10.760
they're not going to be related. They're not going to

768
00:55:10.800 --> 00:55:13.000
be It's going to be like me talking to you,

769
00:55:13.159 --> 00:55:18.719
Me and you are probably not related, right, probably not.

770
00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:22.119
So that's yeah, So that's where I gotta, you know,

771
00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:26.159
throw that point out there. It's not it's definitely not

772
00:55:26.199 --> 00:55:28.159
going to be all the same creatures. You're gonna have

773
00:55:28.159 --> 00:55:33.880
different genes passing through different traits in general, kind of

774
00:55:33.880 --> 00:55:38.480
like blue eyes and brown eyes or blue eyes, blonde hair,

775
00:55:38.599 --> 00:55:43.199
red hair and you know, black hair, any of that.

776
00:55:43.199 --> 00:55:47.400
That's going to be different. People that have larger noses,

777
00:55:47.400 --> 00:55:50.840
some people that have you know, more pronounced teeth. You're

778
00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:54.880
not going to have the same the same genetics. So yes,

779
00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:58.400
I think that there's going to be different mixes between

780
00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:05.920
the genealogy between different squatch related creatures.

781
00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:13.199
You mentioned brought up the most people hold too that

782
00:56:13.239 --> 00:56:19.400
there's different like almost like different variants, right like Guguay

783
00:56:19.440 --> 00:56:24.719
et cetera. Do you yes, do you think from or

784
00:56:24.800 --> 00:56:27.480
from the reports that you've seen and taken from New

785
00:56:27.480 --> 00:56:29.840
Hampshire do you think there are different variants in New

786
00:56:29.880 --> 00:56:35.079
Hampshire or is it more one type that's seen over others?

787
00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:43.239
So yes, short answer, Yes, we up in New Hampshire

788
00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:47.239
have our own. Oh geez, yeah, you got me going

789
00:56:47.239 --> 00:56:51.440
down a rabbit hole right now. This is actually something

790
00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:54.239
that you would that'd be a great question for Alex

791
00:56:54.280 --> 00:56:58.480
Bettekov with this. Have you ever heard of the Hampshire

792
00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:00.079
what devil? Oh?

793
00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:01.119
Yeah, up in Coos County.

794
00:57:02.199 --> 00:57:08.599
Oh yeah, the colossa yep. So they So those are

795
00:57:08.639 --> 00:57:15.800
described to be almost like a gangly humanoid. Some are

796
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:20.760
described to be like silver hair, gray hair, kind of

797
00:57:20.800 --> 00:57:24.280
like a sickly kind of sasquatch type of look very

798
00:57:24.440 --> 00:57:30.199
very very slender. So we've had reports from up in

799
00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:34.880
Kolos County for years and years and years. I mean

800
00:57:35.039 --> 00:57:39.719
dating back to like the logging days up north. The

801
00:57:39.800 --> 00:57:43.519
whole loggers would say that they wouldn't even notice these

802
00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:47.400
creatures standing there because they'll blend right in with the trees.

803
00:57:47.920 --> 00:57:51.039
And then when you notice them, it's reported some of

804
00:57:51.079 --> 00:57:55.760
them will let off a very terrible scream and run off.

805
00:57:57.719 --> 00:58:01.800
So there is those actually with that. I have a

806
00:58:02.079 --> 00:58:10.440
theory going on to Algonquin. I don't want to say mythology,

807
00:58:10.559 --> 00:58:15.599
but the Algonquin culture, the wind to Go. A lot

808
00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:18.800
of people visualize the image of a wind to Go

809
00:58:19.039 --> 00:58:22.360
having like a deer skull on its head, you know,

810
00:58:22.760 --> 00:58:26.800
with antlers and being like all gaunt and like basically

811
00:58:26.840 --> 00:58:30.480
a skeleton. They're not exactly right with that. When you

812
00:58:30.519 --> 00:58:33.199
actually look into the actual descriptions of a wind to Go,

813
00:58:34.039 --> 00:58:38.639
it's more or less a either like a tall kind

814
00:58:38.639 --> 00:58:49.199
of like malnourished, deranged looking person, very slender. They don't

815
00:58:49.400 --> 00:58:54.519
they're not muscular looking, very gaunt with an insatiable hunger.

816
00:58:55.679 --> 00:59:01.159
So you have that what oddly relates to me on

817
00:59:01.239 --> 00:59:06.719
that that matches the same description in a way as

818
00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:12.400
the coos woods devil what wood devil? Sorry, So there

819
00:59:12.480 --> 00:59:15.679
is that. So my theory is is that these native

820
00:59:16.079 --> 00:59:22.440
cultures were kind of seeing a variant of you know,

821
00:59:22.519 --> 00:59:25.760
what could be Sasquatch, a variant of them, kind of

822
00:59:25.800 --> 00:59:31.719
like the Gugway or the skunk Ape, but to their

823
00:59:31.760 --> 00:59:36.119
own area, such as you know, as they describe the

824
00:59:36.159 --> 00:59:41.079
wind to go. So that's like the own like a

825
00:59:41.119 --> 00:59:45.679
regional variant for the northeast parts of Canada and those

826
00:59:46.000 --> 00:59:51.440
areas northeast New Hampshire into Maine. But it got more

827
00:59:51.840 --> 00:59:56.480
popular with the whole New Hampshire wood Devil instead of

828
00:59:59.679 --> 01:00:02.199
you know, traditional Sasasquatch.

829
01:00:04.800 --> 01:00:08.480
That is that is really really interesting. It's you know,

830
01:00:08.519 --> 01:00:14.119
I've never looked a lot into the wood devil. I'm

831
01:00:14.239 --> 01:00:16.880
just you know, kind of more familiar with where it

832
01:00:16.960 --> 01:00:22.880
is and a little bit about it. But yeah, I'm

833
01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:26.159
sure people are still having sightings in that county to

834
01:00:26.320 --> 01:00:26.880
this day.

835
01:00:28.239 --> 01:00:30.599
Oh yeah they are, but it's not I think I

836
01:00:30.679 --> 01:00:34.239
have like maybe one or two reports. I know for

837
01:00:34.280 --> 01:00:41.679
sure I have one of a wood devil sighting. Wow.

838
01:00:41.760 --> 01:00:46.599
But this was from over twenty years ago, believe or not.

839
01:00:46.679 --> 01:00:51.079
The guy described it almost to have the buttocks were

840
01:00:52.159 --> 01:00:55.800
a reddish color, almost like they're inflamed, and it was

841
01:00:55.840 --> 01:00:58.840
trying to I believe from what he was saying that

842
01:00:58.960 --> 01:01:01.719
try to steal fish while he was fishing one of

843
01:01:01.719 --> 01:01:06.320
the Connecticut lakes. So there is that, But we don't

844
01:01:06.320 --> 01:01:09.360
really get a lot of the reports of the wood

845
01:01:09.360 --> 01:01:14.119
devil all too much, especially in a more recent times.

846
01:01:14.159 --> 01:01:20.840
It's mostly you're run of the mill sasquatch report.

847
01:01:21.599 --> 01:01:27.039
Absolutely, is there a part in New Hampshire that you know,

848
01:01:27.079 --> 01:01:29.599
it keeps coming up through encounters and you're like, man,

849
01:01:29.639 --> 01:01:31.519
I gotta I gotta make it over there. But I

850
01:01:31.639 --> 01:01:34.199
just haven't been able to make it over there yet.

851
01:01:34.599 --> 01:01:38.840
So I'm not going to share exactly right because I

852
01:01:38.840 --> 01:01:41.519
don't want. I don't there's a there's a lot of

853
01:01:42.679 --> 01:01:44.519
there's a lot of people that I wouldn't even call,

854
01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:47.960
you know, I would basically refer to them as a

855
01:01:47.960 --> 01:01:49.719
half of meepal. I won't even give them the liberty

856
01:01:51.400 --> 01:01:55.400
to say the least. And we have, you know, some

857
01:01:56.480 --> 01:02:01.760
researchers that have even well quote unquote researchs that have

858
01:02:02.719 --> 01:02:06.199
gone onto people's property without their permission and knocked on

859
01:02:06.239 --> 01:02:08.719
their door and that type of stuff, and like at

860
01:02:08.840 --> 01:02:12.159
night and all that. So I don't, I don't dare

861
01:02:12.239 --> 01:02:21.119
to share the exact location. So grafting County is on

862
01:02:21.199 --> 01:02:24.719
the BFRO database, and then you have I mean even

863
01:02:24.760 --> 01:02:28.840
the Bigfoot Mapping project. That's a great one right there.

864
01:02:29.599 --> 01:02:36.639
But Grafting County has always been the most active according

865
01:02:36.679 --> 01:02:43.159
to like the BFRORO and certain databases. Now I would

866
01:02:43.320 --> 01:02:47.039
argue that there's some areas in southern Hampshire that are

867
01:02:48.079 --> 01:02:51.320
just as active. But if I would have to say,

868
01:02:51.360 --> 01:02:57.199
you know areas that are basically wild and mostly pristine

869
01:02:57.239 --> 01:03:04.079
for the most part, Coos County, Feral County, in Grafton County,

870
01:03:04.920 --> 01:03:09.679
which those are the northern parts of the state, but

871
01:03:09.760 --> 01:03:14.000
those are the most I mean, you go out there

872
01:03:14.199 --> 01:03:16.159
and it's like walking back in time in some of

873
01:03:16.159 --> 01:03:18.840
the areas. That's where a lot of our hiking is.

874
01:03:18.920 --> 01:03:21.119
That's a lot, believe or not, that's where a lot

875
01:03:21.159 --> 01:03:26.599
of tourism is. But that's also where a very very

876
01:03:26.679 --> 01:03:30.679
hefty amount of the moose population is. Now. Of course,

877
01:03:30.679 --> 01:03:35.800
there's other areas. You have Rockingham County, which does have

878
01:03:35.840 --> 01:03:40.559
some reports, Strafford County, which is a county that I

879
01:03:40.599 --> 01:03:45.239
actually live in currently, which has actually been on the

880
01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:47.840
up and coming, kind of like the underdog in a way.

881
01:03:47.880 --> 01:03:52.320
I get some really cool reports from that area. Even

882
01:03:52.360 --> 01:03:56.280
though Rockingham County where it is where I had my encounter.

883
01:03:56.880 --> 01:04:01.360
It's a pretty close to Strafford County border, and I've

884
01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:07.320
even had some occurrences happen there. I don't so much

885
01:04:07.360 --> 01:04:09.760
here of a lot of stuff happening from like the

886
01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:15.159
bell Knapp County area, and I don't hear too much

887
01:04:15.199 --> 01:04:19.400
coming out of like the Peterborough area over you know

888
01:04:19.960 --> 01:04:25.039
where you said that you were from. So, but I

889
01:04:25.119 --> 01:04:28.760
definitely hear a lot of it happening up north in

890
01:04:28.840 --> 01:04:33.239
the Mountain Range, is for sure. Yeah.

891
01:04:34.360 --> 01:04:41.800
Yeah, that Peterborough area is is really interesting because you

892
01:04:41.880 --> 01:04:47.840
had the reports of the Marlborough monkey back in the day. Yeah,

893
01:04:47.840 --> 01:04:50.559
that's kind of around I think that's around Manad Knock.

894
01:04:50.559 --> 01:04:52.960
Although I've gotten I've gotten a man I had a

895
01:04:52.960 --> 01:04:55.360
person reach out to me once about some sightings they

896
01:04:55.400 --> 01:04:59.039
had a Manad Knock. They wouldn't they would not come

897
01:04:59.079 --> 01:05:03.039
on record. It was like, oh, man, okay, well yeah that.

898
01:05:03.119 --> 01:05:06.039
Is around here. Yeah, that's exactly how it is.

899
01:05:06.119 --> 01:05:10.159
Yeah, exactly exactly. But it's wild because that's one of

900
01:05:10.159 --> 01:05:14.639
the most I think it's one of the most most

901
01:05:14.719 --> 01:05:19.000
hiked mountains in the world. Maybe it's second back or

902
01:05:19.039 --> 01:05:21.360
at least. I think it used to be second, but

903
01:05:21.880 --> 01:05:23.119
it's been a while since I've checked.

904
01:05:23.199 --> 01:05:28.599
I believe it is. It's I mean, it's the most popular,

905
01:05:28.679 --> 01:05:34.360
at least in the northeast. There's tons and tons of people,

906
01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:38.920
and I've had reports come off of Manad Knock, specifically

907
01:05:39.840 --> 01:05:44.480
two that came off the Way Arrow Trail, which is

908
01:05:44.639 --> 01:05:50.480
very specific, and that's a pretty well traveled trail. But yeah,

909
01:05:50.559 --> 01:05:54.519
Manad Knock, I mean, there's definitely a lot of people,

910
01:05:54.599 --> 01:05:57.480
so naturally you're going to have possibly more reports come

911
01:05:57.480 --> 01:06:01.639
from that, where I have had other reports come from

912
01:06:01.719 --> 01:06:05.840
Menanok itself and the surrounding areas. But it's a lot

913
01:06:05.880 --> 01:06:08.800
of tourists that don't know, you know, if they could

914
01:06:08.800 --> 01:06:12.400
have been looking at a bear. I've been sent you know,

915
01:06:12.920 --> 01:06:16.599
supposed bigfoot vocalizations that have turned out to be an owl,

916
01:06:17.480 --> 01:06:23.039
specifically Bardel's when they're in their mating season. So there

917
01:06:23.119 --> 01:06:26.960
is that, So there's a lot of misidentification. That's why

918
01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:28.760
a lot of people have to be careful with that.

919
01:06:32.719 --> 01:06:38.800
Extremely extremely interesting stuff. Man, it's such a cool it's

920
01:06:38.840 --> 01:06:42.159
a cool state. It's beautiful. The one of the last

921
01:06:42.159 --> 01:06:43.960
things I want to point out though, is you know

922
01:06:44.920 --> 01:06:48.400
listeners are like, oh, yeah, I should, I should just

923
01:06:48.440 --> 01:06:49.840
go out and look myself.

924
01:06:49.960 --> 01:06:50.239
Guys.

925
01:06:50.920 --> 01:06:53.880
Is like, you've really got to be careful. Like places

926
01:06:53.880 --> 01:06:59.679
like the White Mountains, they're they're very unforgiving. It's even

927
01:06:59.679 --> 01:07:01.679
though it's New England, like, you still have to be

928
01:07:01.719 --> 01:07:03.760
really careful when you go out into places like that.

929
01:07:03.880 --> 01:07:06.760
Make sure you have the right the right stuff and

930
01:07:07.000 --> 01:07:08.960
you know people know where you are, you have someone

931
01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:12.400
with you, like, yeah, it's just yeah.

932
01:07:12.519 --> 01:07:16.480
A lot of people, a lot of people describe the

933
01:07:16.559 --> 01:07:21.239
Hampshire is the worst part of the Appalachian Trail, and

934
01:07:21.320 --> 01:07:23.440
we have a lot of people die, we have a

935
01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:26.000
lot of people go missing, we have a lot of

936
01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:32.280
people get hurt in our mountains. They're not They're not

937
01:07:32.360 --> 01:07:36.039
like the mountains in the southern Appalachians where you know

938
01:07:36.199 --> 01:07:39.119
they're gradual, or the ones out west where you're going

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01:07:39.199 --> 01:07:44.159
on switchbacks and that type of stuff and well maintained trails.

940
01:07:44.159 --> 01:07:47.320
You're talking about some areas where you're going to be

941
01:07:47.360 --> 01:07:49.800
walking on the side of basically like a cliff in

942
01:07:49.840 --> 01:07:54.960
a way with ice, wet rocks, all that type of stuff.

943
01:07:56.880 --> 01:08:00.440
There's a lot of danger. There's a lot of when

944
01:08:00.480 --> 01:08:03.079
it comes to that we might not have like all

945
01:08:03.119 --> 01:08:08.360
these dangerous animals like some over in the West, I

946
01:08:08.400 --> 01:08:12.000
mean moose, they're not smart, they're very dangerous, they will

947
01:08:12.079 --> 01:08:19.520
charge you. But like we don't have grizzlies, we have

948
01:08:19.680 --> 01:08:24.479
black bears, which are definitely more watered down version, just

949
01:08:24.520 --> 01:08:29.039
as they can be very dangerous though. But the most

950
01:08:29.119 --> 01:08:32.560
dangerous part of it is our temperatures. We have the

951
01:08:32.600 --> 01:08:37.720
worst weather in the world. Mount Washington, we are literally

952
01:08:37.760 --> 01:08:41.880
called where it's literally called the home of the world's

953
01:08:42.000 --> 01:08:47.119
worst weather. You can go from having some in eighty

954
01:08:47.159 --> 01:08:52.359
degree weather to having complete fog, rain thunderstorms in the

955
01:08:52.439 --> 01:09:00.399
matter of minutes. It's like people can and will at her.

956
01:09:00.520 --> 01:09:02.039
And it's not something that you want to go out

957
01:09:02.079 --> 01:09:04.960
and go like, oh, this will be easy. No, don't

958
01:09:04.960 --> 01:09:10.239
be stupid, be prepared, do your research. It's not saying

959
01:09:10.319 --> 01:09:12.279
that you want to take lightly. I mean, we just

960
01:09:12.359 --> 01:09:15.800
had a lady a couple of weeks ago, might have

961
01:09:15.840 --> 01:09:21.279
been last week, who fell off a gorge because she

962
01:09:21.319 --> 01:09:24.600
had her two children with her and she died from that.

963
01:09:25.000 --> 01:09:28.439
So it's not it can happen to anybody. It's not

964
01:09:28.479 --> 01:09:29.720
slaying to take lately.

965
01:09:30.680 --> 01:09:38.479
One, Devin, this has been a fascinating conversation about a

966
01:09:38.520 --> 01:09:42.199
state that isn't a lot on the show, but I'm

967
01:09:42.199 --> 01:09:46.319
glad when it is. Thank you for sharing your knowledge

968
01:09:46.359 --> 01:09:50.359
about New Hampshire. Do you mind talking a few minutes

969
01:09:50.399 --> 01:09:53.760
about how people can keep up to date with what

970
01:09:53.960 --> 01:09:57.000
you are doing with New Hampshire Sasquatch or contact you

971
01:09:57.159 --> 01:09:57.720
if needed.

972
01:09:59.319 --> 01:10:03.239
Yeah. Absolute. So the main way that people can get

973
01:10:03.239 --> 01:10:07.359
in contact with me is New Hampshire Sasquatch at gmail

974
01:10:07.399 --> 01:10:12.640
dot com. That's all one word, so there is that.

975
01:10:12.640 --> 01:10:14.239
That's the best way to get a hold of me.

976
01:10:15.279 --> 01:10:23.680
Otherwise there is uh, there is my sorry my phone

977
01:10:23.760 --> 01:10:28.720
is cut out. There is my Instagram page where that's

978
01:10:28.760 --> 01:10:32.600
the most I'm the most active. Unfortunately, I have not

979
01:10:32.800 --> 01:10:36.840
been too active over the last few years, but I

980
01:10:36.880 --> 01:10:40.079
am getting back into it. I got a research partner

981
01:10:40.079 --> 01:10:43.199
out there with me now, but that is New Hampshire

982
01:10:43.199 --> 01:10:48.159
Saasquatch at well New Hampshire Saasquatch on Instagram, and I

983
01:10:48.199 --> 01:10:55.239
do have a YouTube channel for New Hampshire Saasquatch that's

984
01:10:55.920 --> 01:10:58.359
not too active, but I promise people I'm going to

985
01:10:58.439 --> 01:11:00.840
be getting more active on it. The last two years

986
01:11:00.880 --> 01:11:03.720
I've been rough, especially in the bigfoot community. There's a

987
01:11:03.760 --> 01:11:07.159
lot of things that are hoaxes and a lot of

988
01:11:07.159 --> 01:11:12.000
things that kind of degrade and some research researchers when

989
01:11:13.000 --> 01:11:14.840
some things are being put out there that aren't the

990
01:11:14.840 --> 01:11:19.439
most kosher, to say the least. But rest assured. I mean,

991
01:11:19.720 --> 01:11:21.880
the truth is out there and you got people like me,

992
01:11:23.920 --> 01:11:28.520
Alex Petikov, Brian Garvey, Mike Lucci, plenty of other different

993
01:11:28.640 --> 01:11:31.920
great people that I can list down. We're all out

994
01:11:31.920 --> 01:11:35.960
there looking for the truth. And yeah, that's the best

995
01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:37.840
way to get a hold of me. Like I said

996
01:11:37.840 --> 01:11:40.920
in New Hampshire, saasquatch at gmail dot com, in New

997
01:11:40.960 --> 01:11:44.840
Hampshire Saasquatch on Instagram and YouTube.

998
01:11:46.720 --> 01:11:49.800
Fantastic. Well, Evan, thank you so much for coming on

999
01:11:49.840 --> 01:11:54.239
the show. I really do appreciate it absolutely.

1000
01:11:54.319 --> 01:11:55.640
Jeremiah, it's been a pleasure.

1001
01:11:55.960 --> 01:11:57.319
Just wanted to take a minute to say thank you

1002
01:11:57.399 --> 01:11:59.920
for listening to this episode of the big Foot Society podcast.

1003
01:12:00.039 --> 01:12:02.159
Evans encounter is the kind of story that lingers, not

1004
01:12:02.239 --> 01:12:03.680
just because of what he saw in the dark, but

1005
01:12:03.720 --> 01:12:06.720
because of how personal and raw the moment was. From

1006
01:12:06.800 --> 01:12:09.079
a loss that weighed heavy on his soul to a

1007
01:12:09.119 --> 01:12:12.319
creature that seemed almost aware of him. This story reminds

1008
01:12:12.399 --> 01:12:15.239
us that sometimes the unexplainable finds us in our most

1009
01:12:15.319 --> 01:12:18.159
vulnerable moments. The huge thanks to Evan from New Hampshire

1010
01:12:18.199 --> 01:12:21.079
Sasquatch for sharing his incredible experience and for giving a

1011
01:12:21.199 --> 01:12:24.239
voice to those in the Northeast who have stayed silent

1012
01:12:24.319 --> 01:12:27.000
for far too long. And if you enjoyed this conversation,

1013
01:12:27.119 --> 01:12:29.479
please subscribe to us on YouTube, hit the bell icon

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1015
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01:12:34.119 --> 01:12:37.600
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1019
01:12:42.359 --> 01:12:47.279
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1020
01:12:47.359 --> 01:12:49.159
you or someone you know has had a big Foot encounter,

1021
01:12:49.279 --> 01:12:51.159
especially in New England, I'd love to hear from you,

1022
01:12:51.239 --> 01:12:55.199
so please email me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

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And also don't forget Sasquatch Summerfest is happening soon July

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the big for society. Until next time, keep your eyes open,

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01:13:17.119 --> 01:13:19.640
trust your gut, and never stop asking what else might

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01:13:19.680 --> 01:13:21.279
be out there to see you in the woods.