Central Tennessee Under Siege by Sasquatch (Archives)

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1:57 But we're ready to go now. Things down there in Tennessee's Roger. Everything's going good. We've got everything's blooming. So we all say we don't have allergies and we're all sneezing and coffin. But yeah, one of my favorite times of the year. Though. We spend all day today outside and the older I get it takes me a little while to recover from that. I can't run with the kids as much anymore, but going pretty good. I can't complain good to hear, good to hear. Let's get right into it. Let's start chatting about your encounters that you had over the last few years. And where does this all start for you. I'm learning things in reverse.

2:43 I'm fifty two. I had some things happen, had a sighting when I was fourteen, had some things happened before that, but we didn't have any way of researching. If you go to the library back then, it would maybe one or two books and it would have a lot that's monster and UFOs and whatever. But I found that just like other people that had sightings, it never leaves you. You may get away from it for a little while, depending on what's going on in your life, but it never it never goes away. My sighting and stuff that's happened is not as dramatic as actually some of my friends that I've just found out recently. But we live in southern Middle Tennessee, and it's actually there's actually a ridge system that runs in a circle from close to Alabama all the way above Nashville. And what I found is there's been a pretty active ridge system for years. But to get back to how this got started, I'll start when the Finding Bigfoot show was on. I didn't I had no idea that show was on. I was cooking for my son one day and he was about fifteen, and I guess he was watching YouTube and so how he played that and I froze in

4:20 my tracks. I got the got chills. I'm like, what are you listening to? And he's oh, he started explaining that's money Makers, and you show it's the whole house. Supposedly it's Bigfoot, and I was like, I've heard that half a dozen times. And the difference is hearing it on speaker versus actually live. And you hear this a lot, you feel it. It goes through you. And I believe at that time, when the most activity was going on, there was a company that were strip mining for phosphate behind our house and where I hunted, and I believe it had it made this thing mad. It was mad. That was just it's home with being torn up, and that's just my because before it was other things, but not the screaming. And so I remember the first time I saw one and I don't know if there were several I've talked to people lately.

5:29 Since started, I started sharing my story that are local. That seemed to be more than one in this area. I always hunted I was young. We lived out in the country there. We didn't stay inside playing video games. It's just something you didn't do. We didn't have all that stuff, and so I would go out and check the fields for deer. While live out. Just loved being outside. And one one particular day, I stepped out in this field beside our house and I hunted maybe four hundred yards around the bend up there. And I had seen my dad, which he was five eight, I'd seen him walk from that way a lot of times.

6:16 So I'm looking, there's no there's nothing in the field, and I'm just about to step away, and I noticed movement to my left. I had misremembered, thinking it was about three hundred yards. My son and I went back a few weeks ago and it's no more than two hundred. But something stepped out on two legs, and at first the first thing I noticed, of course, was the size. And I had seen the Patty film and I don't know if it was my young mind thought that's what all. That's what bigfoot looks like. That's what all of them looked like or whatever.

7:00 This one was more. It was more athletic, and I wasn't thinking bigfoot at first. But you have to understand the walkway up this hill I had done a lot of times, and the grass was intertwined. They didn't bushog it much, they didn't keep it clean. So it was actually the shortest distance to get back to an alfalfa field that I like to hunt, but I would go the long way because of that high grass and walking uphill at the same time. And so it turned its shoulders and looked my way, and I think it knew I was there because I had hunted those woods for years. I was fourteen. I've been hunting those woods since time was eight, a lot of times going just walking the creeks by myself and just doing kids stuff, and sometimes with my cousins or whatever. But I wasn't scared, I think because of the distance. But I didn't noticed that if you see someone one hundred yards away, two hundred yards away, you can see your hat, your skin, the neckline of your color of your clothes, the wrist here bootlin. You know, it's a person, you know.

8:15 They were in blue jeans. You may not know who they are. But this thing was one color from where I was at, and it was the color of milk chocolate. It wasn't the dark color you hear people, and it wasn't red. It was in between. And so I knew I was seeing something strange. But when it started up the hill, there was They left no doubt because I knew how I had to walk up the hill and how my body. I had to maneuver my body to get over this grass, throwing my legs out to the side, up and over, and it was a struggle leaning forward. This thing started up the hill, had just a little bit of body lean with the back was more or less straight, but just a little lean. And have you ever seen a walking horse so its legs up and over how they're doing the shows. This was the motion of this this thing, straight up and over over the grass, no struggling.

9:16 And the time that it took to get from point A to point B, where I would have taken three to five minutes, this was over in twenty to thirty seconds, which is a long time to get to see something move. And so I didn't panic, and by the time it got to the top of the hill, my mind is just racing like it wasn't the neighbor, it wasn't my dad. And I told my dad about it and he laughs. He said that it's probably Buford, and Beauford was almost ninety years old, and what I had seen had to be one of the best athletes in the world. Going back to that point, I've had people tell me when I described it that this was probably eighteen or eighteenager as far as bigfoot goes, because it had white shoulders, but it was slender at the waist, slender, and I was used to seeing the patty the barrel shape.

10:18 And I told my dad, I said, no, I think I just saw I saw Bigfoot today and he laughed it all and so that was the start of holding it back. And I think a lot of people have found out just recently, in the past three months, since I talked about this for the first time publicly, I've had people come to me. Some of them don't care. They if people know their name, and some of them have jobs that they're scared did it get out, And they have some amazing stories. One of my friends I went to school with in two thousand and eight, not far from here. I had the top off the jeep the doors off around midnight, him and his wife driving and he said, this bigfoot stepped almost into the jeep and in the path of the jeep and almost they almost hit. Well Eric, he said, he looks up and he can see the bigfoot flinch. Oh, no, almost got hit.

11:24 So he went to and he's been researching this ever since, and he went to the landowner and he said, hey, I need to ask you a question. He said, okay, he said, have you ever seen anything strange around here and his work? The next words out of his mouth is, I've seen the big boy twice and so I haven't got to go to that spot yet, but that's on my list. That is that's incredible, Roger. The first encounter you shared, that's age fourteen, that's your age fourteen. Do you mind if I ask a few questions about that. It's a really interesting encounter. So you saw it walk up the hill through the grass in front of you and then I just kept on walking, kept walking away. Then yeah, what it was deer animals, Let's just say animals.

12:26 They don't want to be seen. Most of them. There was what I call choke point up on top of the hill where there was a gate, and so when it stepped out, I don't think it was expecting me to be there, and so it had a decision to make, and it took the shortest distance to get behind some trees. But also that gate never stayed shut. It was an old farm gate that vines had grown over. So it walked all the way up and I barely could see it behind those trees and that those thicket, that thicket. But I believe it the direction that was going. That's what it did because the fence row to its left was honeysuckles growing up. Vines just took it could have course went through if it wanted to, but it took the path of least resistance and the path that was furthest away from me. And yeah, it just walked to the It was heading toward the the back alfalfa field that where I had heard the screams. Later and so I with some other things that have happened that had happened, I started putting things together. There was one day. We don't in the South, we don't get a chance to hunt in the snow much and that's just it. And there was a forecast of some snow on Saturday

13:58 morning. They was scol it was school year, and I was excited. The guy had all my stuff ready the night before I got up, and going by myself, I was probably this was before the sighting. So I'm gonna say twelve to thirteen. And I know that sounds strange, but back then in the South, if you were safe. My dad he trusted me and to go do go where I said I was going to go and do the right thing. Eat a little breakfast, go outside. It's about now two to three inches so now, and it's coming down big flakes, and I'm like, this is amazing. And I go my usual route, which is not too far from the sighting. I had later probably one hundred and fifty two hundred yards and when I come out of this it was a logging road and it opened up into the field and in the woods where my tree stand was. At the time, they were so dark. It was daylight, but it just had this ominous feel. When I stepped out at the edge there and I froze in my tracks and I'm looking around and I'm like, what is this? So I tried to take a step forward on my right foot two or three times, and I couldn't, And in my head, I'm like, this is crazy. Don't be a whimp. You've got a thirty thirty year you're making this up in your head. I couldn't take

15:28 another step forward, and my gut just was shaking, my stomach, my inside was just trembling. And I've always listened to my instincts, and I was becoming scared and something. I don't know why I did this. In my mind, I'm like, if you will let me go, I will turn to my right, I will walk back home and I won't come back out the day. And as soon as I had that thought, it's like I was let go and the feeling went away. Everything went away, and I turned to my right. I did exactly what I said I was going to do, walked in the house. My mom and dad. They knew I'd been excited to go. It's fifteen to twenty minutes later, what are you doing? And I'm like, I lied. I didn't want to say anything. Is it's cold out there? I think I'm going to stay in today, and didn't say anything. I didn't tell anybody that for a long time because I wasn't thinking just that, I was thinking. I pumped out, So you don't tell on yourself for that. But now looking back on it, I don't know, and I don't know about I've heard so many ideas on what sasquatch could be. You have the wo side of the natural side, And I've had a lady tell me that the sasquats told told her

17:00 that there was a bear and they were protecting me. Going back to my teenage years, I had things happen that I couldn't explain that didn't I didn't think much about it. But now there may be more interactions than I knew. Because we didn't know about tree knocks. We didn't know about the tree breaks, we didn't know about the whistles. You hear all this stuff and you're learning. You're a young hunter. You're hey, something's whistling, it's a bird, it's whatever. But now now when we hear something like that, you can tell the difference. Sometimes you can't. Everything and everything's not I'm not one of those people. Everything is not a bigfoot. If I get a new sound on video or whatever. I've got a friend that's former game boarding. He's I go right to him, Hey, what is this?

18:04 Do you know what this is? And if he knows, he'll let me know, and then I'll go research that on YouTube. You know, Oh yeah, that's what that is. I'm good to know. I've been lucky enough that I did. My one resource was my friend Don that he was a game warden for years around here. He'd had reports and so when I don't remember how it came up, but I started telling him about this stuff, he encouraged me, and he asked me questions and he didn't make me feel I guess bashful about it because I don't know how it was in all parts of the country. But you know, I heard somebody the other night say country people are like mountain people. You just don't talk about certain things. And that was the attitude I heard. They would say things like y'all need to be getting in before before dark and all that. But I did understand too some of that was trying to get the kids to this mind and come in. People use that a lot. But so going back, I'm never I don't think I'll ever be like some of the shows for entertainment.

19:22 Oh that's a squatch or whatever. People that don't haven't been out in the woods. They want things to be by sasquatch or whatever, and it's just not the case. But there have been other things that's happened my mom and dad. My dad had shut me down pretty quick when I told him that story, and it was about no more than two years later. They were out Southern folks back in the day, not much population. They'd get out and they drink a beer too, listen to music or whatever, and just relax or whatever in the dirt roads and never bothered anybody because the houses were so far in between. One night he got out to relieve himself, and I think my mom might have too, and there was a bank I think he was told about twelve foot eye. And then they had a four foot fence and had the car running the brake lights trip they were shining.

20:33 The headlights were shining the other way, and he heard a tree snap, a big, a pretty good side of the sapling. He'd been out in the woods his whole life, so immediately he knew it had to be something big. A horse could rub up us against something or cow or whatever. But he said it was different. It was just it was a just like a snap like it was just pull, just snapped over, just instant break. And the next thing that happened he heard it take off running and it sounded like it was on two legs, jumped the fence, landed in the road behind him. He didn't know how far back it was. It was too close, he said. And when it landed in the road, she said, it was boom, and he felt it. And my dad was a matter of fact that you got to show me. I never saw him scared of anything, he said. He screamed at my mom, get in the car now, and he said, Roger, as it was running, it was uphill to them. As it was running, the footfall when the foot hit the ground, it would kick rocks towards them, and he got in the car. They got in the car and left. So this place is called Simmons Ridge Road. And I just recently asked. We were driving through during the day and I saw some of the people that lived that have

22:03 been living here for years. And now I'm not as self conscious about it, so I throw it into a conversation, right, I'm like, hey, you've ever seen a bigfoot? And not all that. Some of them look at you like you're dumb h every now and then you get The answer was no, But my brother said he saw one in the field back there. Right. So we drive up the road and this is the road that my mom and dad had the experience on. So we see my wife's cousins. I never had met him before. She's supportive, and she's heard some things, and she's starting to believe I never had met her cousin before.

22:45 And I just did the same thing. Have you ever seen a bigfoot? And he his demeanor changed. He said no, but I think I've heard one a couple of times just over this ridge. And she it may like, that's amazing when we're talking about as a crow flies not three miles from my first sighting. Right, You got all these ridges that interconnect, and animals use those for quick getaways. They will run a ridge and if that if something spooks on a deer, it'll take a let They know where they're at, they know they get away there avoid people and whatever predators. So these I think these rich systems, they're using them or that I don't know if they still are. Because after the after they tore the terrain up when I was fourteen, the screams and the activity slowed way down. I guess nothing because after the last few screams I heard and failed, they were finishing up. And you've got to understand, you take it don't sound like much to somebody in Wyoming, but here, you take a couple thousand acres and clear it. You've taken away their travel or any animal, their travel where

24:18 they can stay hit. It was pretty thick back there, and they turned them into just fields. But for the stories that I've heard talking to people, I think they didn't move too too far. I think maybe north a little bit along the there's a duck river with rocks and outcroppings. My wife's family they have about about one hundred and thirty acres up there. It's about twenty miles from here, and we've recently had had active So from fourteen or fifteen we moved to an area not far from Simon Dridge. But I didn't have anything happen at that location. It was always in the back of my mind. There was only one instance that I heard a tree snap with my cousin. I had killed a deer. We had to track it. It got dark on us and there was no There were no cows there shouldn't have been anybody out there in a dark way out where we were, and I always thought it could have been a mountain lion, But now going back and thinking of how it actually sounded, it would have had to have been a very two hundred pound something stepping on a green fall tree fall, And now it makes more sense that it was a maybe a snap, but I don't

25:52 know that. I'm not going to say that's what it was. But went all these years, didn't forget about it, but didn't. I didn't go looking for this to start with, so I wasn't the only time I ever looked for tracks was when they did finish up the fields and they had moved all the dirt out, and I'm like, you know what this is where this thing walked up through here, and if it's something that's big in the wood, that's going to leave track. So I did go when that was fresh, and that's I think that's the only time I really looked for tracks, and I didn't find any. Okay, we fast forward and probably three years ago. My son he has some family in the south end of the even further south than here, and we're not we're We're are twenty five minutes from the Alabama border. So we're I and I've heard a lot of stuff come out of North Alabama, northeast, especially in the hills. He was a light hunting in years, and he was like, Dad, my uncle's gonna let us hunt. And he said you could come too. I'm okay, And it was more or less I went as just to have an experience with him, and I said, look, I won't I'll carry something rifle with me. I won't be hunting. I'll just be there and we'll we'll carry walks with us. And so we had to. It was two weeks

27:23 before the season, and I'm like, do you know anything about the place? He said not really. I said, we need to go scout a little bit, and Bigfoot's the farthest thing from my mind. We go up there, we find the water sources, we find the food, we find the fences, the holes and the fences where they travel, and we're just having a big time walking and we're not being that quiet because we're just scouted. And we get to a particular point and I see a tree about five and a half foot up and it's a hard would it because when whatever snapped it, it splintered and just like a high pressure snap being me and I've always taught him the question and look for the answers, don't assume. So I'm looking around and I don't see anything that fell on it. I don't see anything at that time. The top was still there, attached, and I'm looking around. I'm like, you know what I'm thinking. I'm thinking that to myself. I'm like, I've seen some of these shows that say this as a marker, could be a marker, and don't go past it.

28:41 Whatever. Maybe it was less Strout and those guys, but I really I wasn't thinking Bigfoot. But it was odd, very odd, and no reason for it. Okay. So I had my phone in my pocket, my shirt pocket. I help past this tree, and this all happened at the same time. So Siri, which I'm scared to say it, she might wake up here on my phone triggered and my voice is the only thing is supposed to trigger that. And Siri said, I don't quite understand, and I look down in my pocket and I grabbed the phone. Because I'm grabbing the phone. About beside of your double fizz, A rock comes over the cedar up the hill, over the cedar thicket. They're not very high in lands. I'm gonna say twelve to fifteen yards from us. Bounces down and I hear it. To my right, my son's looking at it.

29:45 I hear it. I look up. I see the rock slowing down. But it was so much to take in all of a sudden. Now I've got my son out here, and we just had a rock of us, and there's nobody out there, and you wroop. Something that throws rock has to have a thumb or two, has to have a hand. So I didn't rap right away. What I was doing. I was thinking, what is our best action here? Because any wild animal, you don't want to run, You don't want to trigger a response to get attacked or whatever.

30:27 So I'm thinking, what's the best thing we need to do with my son. He's so funny. The first thing out of his mouth, he said, are we just going to ignore that we had our rock tossed at us? Know? If Peyton just calmed down, just hold on. I'm I'm trying to figure out what we need to do. I said, So here's what we need to do. We need to walk down the hill backwards. So we're facing whatever this is, and don't look up in there. Let's get away and we'll talk about this. And so we went back to the truck and we're like, what just happened? And so we started talking about the marker. I said the tree. It was right there at the tree.

31:11 And he said, what was up with Siri? I said, I that's never happened before. So my question hearing people talk about infrasound and all this could infrasound trigger SIRI because I've had that feeling. I've seen people where they go with the with the line and then measure the infrasound and they're like, oh, do you feel anything, and their jittery and whatever, and so that's my first question was like, neither one of us said a word, so that's not supposed to happen. Second, all, we've got the marker and then we've got the rock toss. The Siri by itself wouldn't have been a big deal. The tree by itself wouldn't have been a big deal, but put together with the rock toss, it became very big deal.

32:01 And it scared me because but we didn't feel threatened though that's what we talked about. We didn't feel threatened. We talked about should we go back, and we did. We went in before daylight. We had put him up a stand in a few days after that. Where I hunt, it's not two hundred to two hundred fifty yards from that spot where he hunts is over over the ridge. It's not one hundred and fifty yards. And like I said, we've never felt threatened there, and there have been times. One morning I was there had and the breeze was blowing. It was from up the hill. I don't know what direction actually that is. You pay attention to it as a hunter. Okay, we've got the breeze coming this way.

32:57 I knew that Peyton was good and that I was good anything up the hill. And I'm sitting there, been sitting there for forty five minutes. It hasn't started breaking daylight yet, but it's getting close. So there so fresh air, nice morning. I'm close to the spring water source and I'm actually sitting blind on the ground, which I don't like doing that, but I was backed up into a bank with some trees and stuff, so I felt like I had that spot covered keep something from walking up on me. I get a whiff of the only thing it did smell like a wet dog, but it had a an element like death decay, no, listen, decay, wet dog with decay. Right, And I perked up and it's behind me and that's where the wind was blowing. There's just a light breeze, maybe three seconds. It was quick. But here's the thing. You know, I've smelled dead animals, and but when if you do and the wind blowing to you, you're gonna keep smelling it. Right. So I'm like, this thing is moving, whatever this is that's moving, And I

34:28 got on the walkie and I'm like, Peyton, I'm not trying to scare you. We've got something coming in between us that stinks like something I've never actually smelled before, and it's moving. I think it's coming to you. He never got a whiff of it, which is even more strange. And we have smelled this on more than one occasion, and he's got a whiff of it a couple of times, but we've never ever felt threatened. And he's had some strange things, some sounds. He was by hisself one day and I got a text. I'll check up on him quite a bit because it's in the nowhere and he's twenty five, so he can take Yeah, but you just don't. It's not smart to hunt by yourself. But as long as he checks up with me ever so often. And I said, let me know when you're leaving and all that. He said, Daddy, I just heard what sounded like a monkey. He said. It was the build up and then yet kind of a yell. He said, it wasn't a scream, and it was the direction that came from was over the same direction as the marker and the rock throw, but even further over on the other side of the hill. And he said, at first I thought it was a bull, he said, but on the beginning of it, but

35:58 as it followed through with it, he said it wasn't. And he's in a little bit of his background. He's always loved animals. If you have a question about an animal, I don't care if it's in Australia. He grew up watching Steve Irwin. He the teachers loved him because they could ask him about this rare bird in Mexico and he was like, oh, yeah, that's that was his thing. So he's not inexperienced as far as things like you know, and he's really level headed. He's the first thing we do is we question what could this be? First? Always, and you'll find the answer a lot of times. That's why I'm saying, not everything's that squat. I really like the way he approaches things and went. But when he tells me something, I believe because it's because it's between us.

36:53 There's no sensational it's just, hey, Daddy, we might need to keep an on this or whatever. We've had strange things happen and we've been there. We went back last year and it was dry. That's the first thing we knew. It was drying our county. But that's the first thing I noticed. The spring was almost nothing. The ponds were dry. It had a totally different feel the whole area did We didn't hear anything, We didn't see anything, and we've been several times where we didn't. But last hunting season. After that, he's walking his ridge up to his tree stand and I go to my spot and we don't text each other because it lights up.

37:40 Right, I got a text. So when I got a text, I'm like, oh, and it's really a miracle that I actually got the text because of the signal. It was like a signal back in there and the pictures coming through, and it took a while, and when it finally came through, I don't know. You may have seen the picture in the one of the groups on Facebook, but it's the thorn tree. It really hard, really tough, no scuffs on it, and it looks something and taken like this and broke it down. And there was probably one hundred and fifty two hundred of those on this ridge and it used to be a field and it has grown up now. And he saw it and he snapped the picture of it, got the flash and he like wh And so after our hunts over it, he takes me up there, and that's the first thing we do. We look around it. We look maybe see if a tractor maybe have done had made that damage. I didn't think so because of the way it was done. All of the thorns, some of the thorns are three inches long. All of those branches and thorns are intact. So if a truck runs over something like that, they're gonna knock some of those off.

38:53 If a bull rubs up against it, it's going to knock some of those off. Everything was in tight except that four and it was and so have you ever when we were kids, when we'd have sap, we'd be out. We didn't have a lot of toys. We'd be outside all the time. It's seven or eight years old. We would go and pick a sapling, climb up it a little bit, and it's not going to support your weight, so you would ride it down right exactly. Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. So when one of those breaks, i'll call it a soft break. It'll bend, it'll put pressure, you know, and give it'll give way and it'll split, but it may split in a bunch of different places or whatever. And you can tell that the pressure was from up in the tree. And then somebody wrote it down, well, these what's strange about these particular trees being a harder wood, And it looked like something just snapped it right there at that point, if you take let's say, I may have one here. I know this is crazy.

40:05 I don't know if anybody can see this or whatever, but got a number two pencil. If I take and break this thing like this, it's bending and it's gonna break somewhere in here. But if I push pressure right there, I know where it's gonna break. It's gonna break right there. And that's a high pressure break. So that's the difference in something that a softer would that. So anyway, and I know, expert, I've just been in the wood and you know it. And I'm always open to somebody educating me. I notice things like that, and if I can't explain it, I'll keep trying. But some of these I can't other And I don't know if you've heard Mike Blueler, I haven't know, Okay, he's I helped co host with him on Red Creek Mafia on YouTube, and I heard his on Cliff and Bobo podcast coming home from work, right and there were some things he said that made me realize, Okay, one thing he was talking about was the size of the forearm. He had a really close encounter last than a while, but the size of the forearms and the fingers looked like bananas, the size of bananas. And I'm driving home and I'm like, if that's the case, then what I thought was a tough tree break for something might not be as hard as what I thought. So I contacted him

41:38 through email and can I talk to you because this stuff started happening. I started I started, there's podcast now, of course, and he was nice enough to answer back, and we hit it off, and I just I asked him all kinds of questions, like what did this look like? What did that look like? And we've learned. We've learned a lot of stuff in the last three months because of the guests that's come on. Because I told my story or one of my stories. I had a friend to contact me on messenger on Facebook and said, hey, Roger, you remember when my brother and I lived Verona, Caney Creek whatever, And I'm like, yeah, he said, we walked up on one. They were like twelve, He said, we walked up on one. He's the farmer had said keep an eye out because something was stealing his calves. And he said when they fished the creek down there, they would walk through and they heard some of the calves bawling and making noise, and so they walked over there and he's got his brother with him, younger brother, a couple of years younger, and he said we he said, my mind couldn't make sense of it at first, but it was a big foot and he had a calf by the leg dragging it through a fence. And when it saw us, he

43:10 said, it looked irritated that we had seen him, and he let the calf go, turned walked off and turned and looked at him and did a huff, you know, And he said, I saw his teeth. He said, close enough, twenty yards he saw his teeth, and he stepped over the four four strand the barber just stepped right over it and walked across his field. And I'm just I'm floored. I talked to him for two hours. I'm like, Kevin, how come? He said, I didn't know. Everybody was laughed at me. I'm glad you finally you told your story. He said. I don't feel as crazy now, but I know what I saw, and nobody ever tell me. Wow. And this was something that he had a thirty second to a minute sighting and up close and personal. And that see, I'm not the bravest person in the world.

44:07 So that's two hundred yard cushion that I had. Even though I was probably wrong. I felt like I could get to the back door quit quicker than he could get me, which that's how kids think. But twenty yards fifteen twenty yards, I don't know if I would make it through that art while. But it just it just confirms there are people around this country that might listen to this. It's okay now that I don't know if he shows the negative if you say something about bigfoot. I mean, I've got deodor and in the it's everywhere. Yeah, right, it's everywhere. I've got stuff people give me. I told this story and I thought, yeah, they're gonna think I'm nuts. Somebody went to Branson, Missouri and brought me back to Posters. That's got a Sasquat's Thames Park there. I didn't know that, yeah, exactly. And so now but here's the problem. Yeh.

45:13 The problem now you run into which is a little bit before. I didn't go looking for this. We do go out now, and I've got a couple of situations where I slowed down a little bit. But there are people that want to have an experience so bad that every every leaf, every twig break, every the other night. Yep. I know exactly what you're talking about, Roger. Yeah, and you don't want to. I'm sitting there telling y'all saw a bigfoot, so I can't tell another person they didn't, right, I'm not gonna do that I'm gonna listen to you. Now, if you show me pictures and you've been faking some stuff, I'm not gonna hurt your feelings. But I'm just going, oh yeah, that's cool.

45:58 But if it's if it looks legit, I'm going to pick your brain. Hey, can you take me out there? Yeah? So, but I think I can my bes meters pretty pretty good now there yet. Now there's some will get past you. But that's okay. But I think some of them want an experience so bad they'll they'll see pictures, they'll find things, the Paradoia thing, and but I can't say anything about that. I've got I had a couple of things happened to me where my son said, he's what is this? And he circled it in it And I've got a picture that i'll send you later. I had a tree fall. We had a gifting spot. We tried this. We heard these other people, so we had some activity. We have some strange sounds, strange smells, the sounds for footfalls, like it come off one of the large rocks and boom like a six hundred pound cow but two feet. A lot of strange things was happening at this one location and we would go out there at night. I used to sit outside the truck. Now sit inside the truck, I don't.

47:13 But we went back one day and we gifted we put some some fruit and stuff out there. Meant, my son and I we were out there, and I've got it on audio on the video, but it's hard and I'm embarrassed because it scared me so bad that I said some very good words. It just came out, and I'm like, I didn't even realize it didn't until we replayed it. And what happened. We went in. We found the spot where we'd had all the strange stuff that the smells and stuff at night. So we went in during the day and it's on some family land and we had a bag of fruit, and we had a rake with me to What I was to do is put out some stuff and then break all the leaves up and clear in case something stepped in to get it.

48:06 Then I would maybe get a footprint or something like that. And as soon as we walked in, not only did we hear stuff, but we could hear stuff before we heard stuff Like we heard it sounded like a log was thrown, like a log that had been down for a few months. A log was thrown and it was thrown so hard, and there's these big rocks. It's close to that river I was talking about, so a lot of the top soles gone. And it sounded like it was thrown against one of those rocks and it broke, and it didn't sound like it was green. It was it had been there a while. But the thing was we were so close. We heard it pick it up and pick up like you pick up one in and drag it to you. Oh wow, And you can hear me in the video. I'm up. Wait. So before all these sounds of these it sounds, we could hear the other movement and then we get the high pressure tree snaps just cracked, and we're talking fifty to sixty yards through the woods and just out of sight. All the stuff that happened here has just been out of sight. Trees been I almost say, I hate to even say pushed over, but what are the odds of these trees falling? And I had one, I've got it on video where I went back by myself a couple days later to check the fruit and this tree that had been broken and suspended there it decided to fall while I was videoing for

49:38 all the rest of the way. And that's where I get the I hate to say this, the cloaking look figure in the picture. I didn't see it while I was there, so but something and my son and everybody's looked at this video is like it almost looked like it was pulled down, like bend up over here, and then this back end responded to it. So anyway, the day, a couple of days before we had all this activity, it sounded like maybe a thirty pound boulder toss. Like I said, it's about fifty yards away and all this noise. It sounded like something was irritated that we were there. But the final thing, so close to the final thing that scared me was a series of sounds where I heard it, heard something pick up something like a tree that had fallen or something. And then the best way I can explain it after listening to it fifty time is it sounded like it picked it up or heard that. And you know how some of the tennis players grunt when they hit the tenant or when they exert a lot of energy. I don't know if baseball players do it, but maybe somebody with an axe. They're putting everything they got into it, and you hear that when I hear the right as the tree or whatever it was

51:14 hit another piece of wood and it broke. There was a huff so loud and so big that I can just imagine the nostrils just being massive, and it was so deep, and that's when the cuss words come out, and I'm like, oh, we may be in trouble. And here I am thinking, you eat it. You've got your son out here, and you done walked up in the middle of something and you may not be able to get out of it. That's how big this thing sounded. What's interesting is, of course the video doesn't do it justice as far as the volume, but everybody we've shown this video to put the headphones in and they listen to it. So here's what we get. That sounds like a line, that sounds like a bear, that sounds like all these huge mammals right southern Middleton's we don't have lines. We don't have I don't know if a baric can make that sound. They're talking that. When they hear it, they know it's something big and it's not a horse. A horse. You hear a horse. You know what a horse sounds like. Right, This thing expelled so much airror while it was exerting this pressure or this energy that I could almost see the nostrils in my It had to be huge, and it had to be big to make the noises. And we had a final tree break.

52:36 But what we did, it did. It scared me. It scared me so bad that we didn't go back for a while. But I said, in my head, oh, I told my son, you didn't seeing the video. I said, Okay, clear your mind, and I said, we're not here to hurt you. We're not here. We're just curious and we don't want to be hurt either. We're just Yeah. I didn't know if that was the right thing, but I felt like it's something I need to do. And when I did it, I don't know if it's and orphans or what it was, but I got this you for it feeling. So I'm being cool and calm, trying to be and I said, Tayton, what are you feeling right now? He said, the whole field of the woods just changed. Now. I don't know if that's power suggestion.

53:24 I don't know if that made us feel better. It could be. But what we went through for fifteen minutes and that ending on that I knew we would wed ticked something off. I knew it. I knew this thing is not good. And we took a break. He hadn't been back. He has not been back. He's not a small guy, can daycare of himself. And he said, I'm not going back there. I did the next day. I keep saying that. A couple of days later, and that's when the tree was either pulled down or fell down. And I don't know. I can't explain a lot of this stuff talking. It is good to talk to people and get their opinion to what it might be. You know, if you when you get that gut feeling something wrong. I'm fifty two years old, I've done some stupid stuff. I've got scars, broke bones, and just before that happened, you get this feeling like, oh, I did it again. Some of this is we started having these interactions, and I think we got a little overzealous. We're not We're trying to figure out some things, and I just don't want to get hurt in the process. I don't want to get him hurting the process or anybody, And there's so much. There's so much that's happened. My wife was with me

54:54 one night at the same area and over to our right, she's on the way I parked. The left side is where this area is, and she can hear and see on this right side it's dark, good and quiet. And she said, what is that what? And she said, up in that tree and just across the drive back in there there's some trees and saplings, a few cedars, and there was a light. It wasn't like it wasn't fluorescent, it wasn't led or anything that bright. It was more of like a moon moon like when it's not that it's bright. It's not a full moon, just half or crescent or whatever. So I'm looking at it and that's the first thing I think, what's the moon? She said, no, it's not, because it's over there. Okay, So we're looking and it's not pulsating. It's not, but it does get gradually bigger.

56:05 That's about the size of a just not quite the side of the tennis ball when I first see it. And it's not perfectly around either. And we keep watching this one from fifteen or twenty minutes. This is the same area I have people say, well, that comes along with the big Foot, and we watch it. And I backed the truck up to get different views of it, and I said, how far you think that up in the tree there? She said, I don't know how to tell. I said, do you know how a basketball goal is? She said, oh yeah. I said, do you think that's in which it was? Do you think that's about the same height? She said, yeah, it is. I said, so it's not a person with a light. We're ruling that out. It got bigger and it was misshaping, and then it come back gradually or twenty minutes, and I would move forward and backward to get better looks at it, and it just faded out. We don't know what that was. It shouldn't be there. I went a few days later, going behind during the day and look to see if there's any trail cams, any light sources, any any place where something like that could be hung up there.

57:15 And it's not there. There was no place, there's no tracks, the leaves, there's no disturbances. So no, it wasn't something somebody put up there, is what I'm saying, And that's that in itself is just strange. But and then you pair it with this other activity that we've had and we just don't know. We were out and we've been married a little over three years, we've been together four, so she's she's so good. When we first met, let's say, Skinwalker Ranch, some of the some of the big Foot shows, some of the YouTube stuff, I'm like, she's gonna think I'm crazy, but she didn't. We're in the Boy Whom two years ago in April this, yeah, it was two years ago, and we go back I think it was Tory Lake. We went to Cowboy Cafe, we got something to eat, and we had enough time to go back in here. I had actually looked it up as a place you could drive back and just beautiful. Nobody back there, and I had a video going and I made the comment being stupid, just being extra country. I don't know if y'all know this or not, boys, but this is it's a jetty country right here. And I was gonna send it back to my buddies and show them just how it's hard to describe how beautiful this was and how far back and the river and I expected to see a grizzly or mountain

58:51 line any second, and whatever bears they have. We go to the back, we go nine miles back in, we turn around, we got the windows. Now her coming back out, and I'm barely going. We're looking at everything. We're in awe, and on her side of the truck there's an ahaow. Now, it's not like it didn't have the volume that that I had heard before. And when you get in those mountains, that mountain may look like it's a mile away, it could be ten. So I actually thought it was somebody messing with us. But then when you think about it, there were no vehicles. It might have been a hiker. Right.

59:39 But she looked at me and she said, she said, did you just hear that? Yeah? I actually did. What do you think it was? She said, all I know I've been watching too man of those shows with you. Where was this again, Roger? This was in the Boys Wyoming? Oh okay, wow, yeah, and it was. I had talked to Don, my game warning friend. He's now, Roger, don't write it off because it could have been a smaller one and it could have been two miles away. And I'm like, we're right, But like I said that, my first instinct is to explain things away and because it didn't have the volume that the one I had heard several times. I just thought, maybe hopefully it was somebody, because this stuff scares me a little bit. I'm not going to be out in a tent. I talked to a guy I got a new job. There was a guy. One was from Minnesota and the other guy we're in training, and the other one from California. I didn't bring anything up. I noticed the one guy had a Sasquatch hat on. He was from Wisconsin. And the guy from California said, oh, you you believe in sasquatch. He said, oh yeah, we find a track away in the snow one time. That was just unbelievable.

1:00:57 And of course here I go. My head's turning. And this guy said, I want to walk into my camp one night up close to the Sarah Nevada's. He started naming uh Clacamus River and Humboldt County and all this stuff, and I'm and I just keep leaving. I said, Hi, nice to meet you. My name is right. So I knew I could talk to these guys or just learned, and that's some amazing stories. He said he didn't see it because he scared him. He stayed in the tent, but I guess he had moonlight and maybe smells and sounds, and all of his friends, he said, had experiences back in the day. So it's been a it's been a whirlwind. Jeremiah is once I told my story the amount of stories that I have now, and I'm telling you there are some people that I don't know, but there are some that I've known them all my life. And some of them haven't watched the TV shows or listen to the podcast. There's one, the one I said, I can't say a name, so he sends me a message and a messenger after that first show, I did thank you for explaining things the way you did, because now what happened to me made sense. But I can't let it get out because of my job. I'm like, can you call me? So we

1:02:28 talked on the phone for a while. He said he was on his porch and this is not far from me. This is actually close to some activity that's been going on for since the seventies. This is the same area maybe ten mile circle right. He said that on his porch all night, rural area. His dog was there out there. He said it sounded He said he heard a scream and it sounded like a mixture between a woman and an elephant. It's the whey he in his mind. And he said his dog Peede on the porch ran to the door and he was trying to get in the door, and the dog was trying to get in the door. He said, he almost ped the porch too, and he wondering what it was.

1:03:16 He said, but here he's the thing. He said, when you said you felt that screen, I felt it too. And he said, and you and it made sense when you said it. I said, let me ask you some questions. I said, do you watch bigfoot shows? No? You listen to podcasts? No? I don't. He said, I don't know any of this stuff. I don't know. He said, but when you said this or that, it made sense. So I kept listening. Then he said. Two weeks later, it was opening a gun season, deer season. Here they've got a little money and so there where I might have being a tree stander in a fold out seat Ozark Trail from Walmart. They've got these nice houses with plexi glass and it's almost too nice.

1:04:04 And I know exactly what he's talking about. And he said, he said, get my four wheeler back there and hide it. And then I walk across the field forty five minutes before daylight, he said. And this was two weeks after I heard that sound. He said. I go in, I get inside. I locked the door, a little flimsy door, but it locked. And he said, there's a hickory tree and his dad, I don't forget too much away. His dad taught me how to smoke meat, and we did it the old way, back in back then, and so they always had a lot of hickory cut and had huge smokers. And he said, there's this one hickory tree. He said, I always look at it get daylight and I said, oh, my daddy, don't cut that down. This is such an awesome tree. And he said, I'm sitting there. He said, it's about thirty minutes or so before daylight, and I hear some grunting and growling, and and it sounded like he said, it sounded like something very large was upset. He said. It wasn't a bull, it wasn't a cow. It had this he said, I just knew it wasn't, but he said that it was massive, he said, And it was in the fence row and it was close to the hickory trees near as I could tell, he said. So he was so scared that he took his chair and put it up against the door. He said, what I figured was it was dark, and I didn't. He said, if it came in on me, whatever it was, I would fill the door moving and then I could maybe get a shot off or whatever.

1:05:34 He said, I was scared to death, he said, fifteen minutes before daylight, he still hearing some of the noises, not as much, but it was maybe letting him know that it was still there. And then he heard a loud crash snap, and didn't know what it was, and heard another noise and then after that went quiet. So it's getting close to daylight. It's getting close to something, right, So he said he didn't know what to do. He said he was going to get to his four whelers quick as possible, but he wanted to get all the way daylight, and he wanted to make sure whatever it wasn't in there. And he said, when it got where he could see, he said, there's a branch, a big branch about ten foot up. He said it was broken fresh snout. You know how bright fresh wood is and he's and so his first instinct was like, I wonder when that happened. And then he and he had just walked from his at an angle, from his four wheeler to this thing through the field and he looks over he'said twenty yards out in the field, that branch is thrown out into the field. And he said, Roger, that was five years ago, and I haven't been hunting since, and I'm not going back. So how do you how do you explain once again, for something to break something like that, it has to have thumbs and

1:07:04 it has to be big. I feel like I'm just I feel like I'm gushing here, but I've been inundated with stories over the past I was three three months maybe, and it got to the point where it felt like I was filling up, and I do want to listen. And I would see you share your podcast on Twitter or somewhere, and I'll be like, I got to listen to that. I'm going to share it, so I'll go back and listen to it. But there was a point where even I had to take a break with Mike helping co host that showed because there was so much information and I'm trying to filter through what could be real and what's not.

1:07:47 And I got full. I got I got just wayed down with it, and then I got sick and I got the rest. It's a bad way to get the rest, but I slept a lot, and after I got over that, I'm refreshed. And I think I'll give some people advice that's getting into this. Go the pace, go to your own pace, and don't try to get too much because there are a lot of theories. And then there are a lot of people that are or this side and they don't get upset if you disagree with them. And some of it is so unreal. But like I said, I'm on a podcast with Jeremiah and I'm telling them about this stuff. And I have even talked about the ghost and the orbs and all this stuff that I've seen in the past, and it makes me that's why it makes me think that some of it may be tied together and it maybe some of us are without trying more openness things happening.

1:09:00 I don't know. Here's the theory I have now. The scientist guys, I get them. But there's some people that think about this. I don't know if and people that are listening, think about this. There are people that mean no harm. If there is a big foot, they don't want it to be killed. They don't want it to be any harm. They just want to understand a lot of those people seem to have experiences where you have I know people that are mean and would shoot one at heartbeat, and they hardly ever have any of those experiences. So if they can communicate or know your feelings or know your thoughts or whatever, then they would stay away from that person, I would think. And those are the people are like, oh, you're full of it, and virus are one? I would they tell it? They think they would anyway, But I've even Mike's encountered he had the safety off, the cross hairs on his nose and were scared, and he said he was about to pull the trigger, and there was too much emotion and more human he said it it turned his head sideways.

1:10:12 You better don't do it. Don't do it, and he said in this Mike's former military, and he was scared, and he said, I felt like if I pulled that trigger, I would partially be killing the human. And then he said, and I partially was scared that if I decided to pull the trigger, I might not make it out of the woods. So what he struggles with it, But he's a good guy. He's trying to he's doing his show and he's trying to get people on so he can understand. And I think that's I think that's where a lot of us come from, as we have had experiences and we start digging. Like the guy in the jeep, his son told me, he said, ever since that happened, now he's been everything. He can watch, everything, he can read.

1:11:01 He talks about it all the time, and and it's not driving him crazy. It's just he wants to understand, you know how. We have questions, like one of the one of the main questions I have. It's not paranormals not, it's like, how do they take in enough protein? Be a lot of critters in one area to support those guys? Yeah, it's wild, Yeah, and so they almost have to be what omnivores exactly? Protein? And then you get some people talk about the woo part of it where their energy and they can come through portals and who knows, it's a lot. It's a lot to take in. It's a lot, and you're smart in what you said earlier, where it's like there's so much in this field right now that you have to pace yourself and you it is okay to step away for a bit if you find yourself being overwhelmed that it's this smart thing to do. It's not smart when you're not aware that needs to be done. But I do have a few questions for you that have come up while you've been talking the different the different situations you've had. Have you noticed that these have all taken place in one county except for the moment.

1:12:25 The Yes, there's one that's close to another county, depending on what here you're own. But yeah, the Marshall County, Tennessee. I'll go ahead and say it, because I've got five or six people right now that that I'm in contact with. Oh, there's probably a dozen that's actually told me, but there's about half a dozen that that we communicate about things that have happened in the past, and and we talk about people that we all we've all known that things have happened to and then you'll forget things. I have a very good friend. He used to hang around him. He's little older than me. Now he's one of those macho guys. He's not going to say anything to make himself look bad or crazy. His dad has passed away, but he I would believe anything to come out of his mouth just because of the type of person he was. And he wasn't kin to me, but he gave me advice. He was just no frills country guy that had great listening skills. He would listen to you if he thought he needed to say something, he would if he wouldn't butt into your business. And he was just a good man. And so when Matt told me the story, I was about ninety percent on. But then when Eddie his dad, he

1:14:00 heard all of it and he saw Mack running and he's never seen him that scared in his life. He was about thirteen or fourteen. But what happened in that situation Mack hunting the fence line up behind their house, and he had a single shot twenty gauge. He hunted everything with it back then, and he would crawl up, he climb up in this hatberry tree and get out on this limb and sit there. And he said he saw some movement coming along the woods line, which there's a little grass out there in the field. It wasn't a big field. And first thing anythink was dear come in turkey something, And he said, and that's another thing. People.

1:14:41 There's some people that can't get out, and I understand that, and they want to know things. So this is why I put little tidbits in like this. People that have been out in the woods, have been around farm animals, or been around been out even a zoo keeper or somebody that studies all that. They can see an animal from from a long distance and tell you what it is by the way it's moving, by the it's gate, by its bounce, in its smoothness. A cat ye back will bend certain ways. The coyoties of prance a little bit, and they're lighter on their feet than a wolf. And it just so you identify things pretty fast.

1:15:21 He said. The first thing he noticed was it was something about four and a half to five foot tall, and it was moving, but it was doing this. He said, The head was side to side and it was hunkered over and he what is that? Because now this guy, he's been around all these animals, and at first he sees it, he don't know what it is. So he's trying to identify. It's getting closer to him, but the wind is coming from behind mac to a certain point up in the woods. This thing is coming around and it hasn't got to that point where it could wind him yet. And it's Folkston on the edge of the woods. And he said, then he gets a good look at it as it gets closer. He said it was four and a half five foot tall.

1:16:06 He said, look like a monkey. He said the hair was clumped, greasy and clumped where in tuffs where you could see skin under And he said, that's when he got really scared. And so he got his gun up and read. But he wasn't gonna make annoise. He's just gonna let it pass by. And that was his instinct, just to stay still and let it go. He said. When it got he said, I knew the wind was behind me, and I'm thought, oh no. And he said it got to that point and it threw its nose up in the air, sniffed a few times, and he said when it turned and looked, it locked eyes with him, and it showed its teeth. And now back then I didn't know whether to ask if it had came out under whatever.

1:16:50 I'm just listening to the story, So he said, it. It snarled, and it like it made it mad, and it said it came to him and it was making some noises. I don't remember what noises he said it made. But he said, I'm thinking, can I get down on this tree and get home before this? We're talking forty yards and he made the decision that he could. Now what happens next, he said he felt bad about it, but he was forced into it, he thought, he said. He pulled the gun up and he put it on the chest and squeezed the trigger and he heard it thump. He said, it started rolling.

1:17:32 He grabbed his chest, started screaming and rolling. He said it sounded like a monkey. Now it could have been. I don't know what it was. But he got down. He's running. Now. He's built like me. I'm a bigger guy. One of us running. Don't ask any questions, try to beat us. But so he's running, and he said, he takes a single shot, puts one in it, and throws it over his back and fire as reckless sleep back that way, puts another one in it. Yeah, And so he gets to the fence. He's trying to get his fat tail over the fence and his Daddy's what is going on? He said, I just shot the monky and he said, you could hear it screaming. Eddie said, I could hear it screaming. It's just right behind the house. And he said, look, boy, let's get in the house. And they didn't. They never went up there to see.

1:18:24 Now, that's that's not as a crow flies three miles from where I saw mine, but it was a lot bigger. But going back to that sighting, there was a limb that came out. It came out over the field and drooped down and curved back up. This thing walked. When it stopped, it was under this right. So I told my dad, I said, Daddy was almost as tall as that limb. I said it was about six eight inches under that limb off of the head was that couldn't have been Beaufer. He said, there's no way. You know how far up that is. I said, yeah, I do. I saw. We went up there with the tape measure and whatever it was had to be around seven and a half foot talk. So we did get a measurement and he was questioning, he said, but he kept saying there's no way, there's no way, And like I said, I've seen him walk and he was five eight ish, and I knew what he looked like up there, and this thing would have broke him an a half if But anyway, I wish, God, I wish I had known. Maybe I don't, but I wished I had known what to look for. I wished I had a known.

1:19:43 Like the other night, we had a quiet night. What there wasn't a lot going on. We had some bard owls back and forth. And some people say sometimes they get mimicked by whatever I have. We can do calls like that with our mouths, and we'll sometimes when he gets quiet, we'll start and we'll get them active, just to get something going on. But then you hear some strange stuff, like a barred out that's on the ground. You know, it doesn't sound exactly like a bird, but I don't know. But there you go. You put all the things that happened together and it makes a little more sense that it could be something like that.

1:20:23 But so I did. I realized that I haven't done anything to get any responses, and I said, hey, so let's go back. So we had frogs making their noises, we had whipper wheel or whatever bird it was going nuts. We had some sounds going on and just listening and then it got quiet, just you know. It happened sometimes when a predator comes in. It could have been cowgies, whatever, mountain lions, whatever, just get quiet. But I wasn't really thinking that. And like I said, I don't know what this was, but I'm like, you know what, this be a good time to I told my wife. I said, I'm I'm gonna do three clouds out the window and let's listen in her hearing.

1:21:13 I have to be careful. I can't mumble under my breath because she can hear birds breaking seeds in her bird feeder, and she's going to have with you if you need a warning. But so I did. I did three loud clouds and quit. I didn't hear anything, and she she turned and she said, you just got to clap back over here. I said, wait a minute, hand cloud? She said, yeah, yeah. How many she did was just one? And I don't know, I know, I do know that there's nobody out there, and if she tells me it was a handcloup, I'm gonna go with her hearing. But after that happened, there was some strange sounds that she couldn't identify, but it wasn't a lot. But we say that's not a lot because we've had so much happened at times that you just get a response back. I don't know what that could be. I don't know what could clap other than a person.

1:22:23 But anyway, Yeah, and there's so much more. I don't I could go on. Roger Marshall County is having some things go on, that's for sure. Yeah, I do want to ask real quick. I keep coming back in my mind. We were talking about how your son was hunting and he heard what he thought was a monkey sound in the woods. Have you guys been ever been back to that area? Yes, I've got a video. I've got that. My YouTube page is not a whole Oh okay, cool, it's not. And we took we did a walk about and it takes a while because of the ridges, and you know, I'm not an athlete, so we have to take time, and we went behind. This was just I'm going to say this was two two and a half months ago because after I had done I had told my story and it just a couple of weeks in. I thought it'd be fun to get some video and show people work where we were at. So I said, here's what we want to do. I said, First of all, we're not going to be quiet because I don't want to slip up on anything. I want everything to know we're here. The second thing, I want to go behind that clump of cedar trees to where the rock came from, to see how something could have got gotten away or hid from us, or where it could have been

1:23:54 standing. And another thing, I said, where you heard He said it was like a monkey gorilla. He said it was a classic build up, and the said and whatever. And so I said, we're going to go back on top of that ridge and we're gonna look over and see what's there. And he's got a Yeah, I'm fifty two. I don't I'm not totally out of the tech stuff. He draws them this app up. It tells exactly where we're at, who owns what, and where the houses are. I bet it's on X And I'm like, I use that too. It's good. It is. It is as far as something is and who's and what's scary is I believe it has the owner's phone number here. It's pretty intense. Yeah, it's intense. So we Yeah, we did go back there and we looked off the ridge to where it could have been, and as far as we could see, you see a spec of white here there houses just sparsely through this valley, and then another ridge way over there and just nothing, just nothing, and behind the cedar trees. I don't see how whatever it was it had to stay put. I don't see how with the terrain and the leaves, and I think it would have exposed itself.

1:25:25 And then maybe that's why it threw a rock at us. It was last resort. We were getting close, and if we had walked fifteen more yard or twenty more yard, we might have seen something we might not want it to do. But so maybe we pressured it to do that, to have that response without knowing. So it would have had to It would have had a pretty long run up the hill or anybody that was back there, so it didn't have an escape route. So that's what I was telling Peyton. I'm like, we may have pressured it into doing that. And then and but once you get up on top of the ridge, you can be in some of these hollows really fast. You know, you could get some distance between you. If it was if it was a person, especially like deer. We know that we know how they do, so it makes it just makes sense that any animal would use the ridges in the same way.

1:26:25 He still goes by himself. Sometimes it's just it worries me, h, even though I'm confident that he'll do the right thing and he's learning that you don't just shoot first. We had that scary We had that scary thing happen. And when I started, I said, clear your mind. He actually set his rifle down. I didn't tell him to. He just some reason he set it down and did his hands like this, And I guess we're so in tuned. But anyway, while here he's heard some strange noises and stuff. But like I said, we talked about it and said, I said, have you ever felt threatened? He said no. And Kevin, my buddy that saw the one trying to get the calve, he made a comment, it's wrong true. Somebody asked him on the show. They're like, or did it keep you from going hunting? Did it keep you from going fishing? Did it scare you? Did it? He said, He's just he's more country than I am. If you can believe that, he said way I figured it. If he's there, what I saw is he's always been there, and he's never bothered me before. Of course he's saying he because we all think bigfoot. And he said, so, I don't

1:27:57 let it bother me because if he wanted to get me, he could have got me that day because I was right there. Sure, so you know, and that's comforting. Now you get to talking to some of these people with the dog men and stuff like, then you get on a totally different that settle up partners when you start and yeah, I mean you can go down, you can go far down the road. Roger, you're aware of that. It's not just bigfoot. But but man, this has been a enjoyable chat. And you guys got some stuff going on down in Marshall County County, Tennessee. And I'm definitely gonna be keeping up to date with you.

1:28:39 Roger, how can do you mind sharing a few taking a few minutes to share how people can keep up to date with what you got going on. Also, if they're like, man, I've got something that happened in Marshall County, Tennessee, how can they get in touch with you? It sounds like they need to let you know. Well, I set up an email like all of us do. Yeah, you want to keep it separate from your other your business. But it's squatching hollered. That's without a G and that's l E R. And that's at gmail dot com. I wanted something to be memorable and so that squatching Holler could be anywhere. So yeah, if you have anything, I'd be glad to listen. If you're in this area. Even we're not far from More County, which is where Jack Daniels is. There are ridges when you can get on these ridges and go forever, and people like Davy is it Davy Crockett? Yeah, Davy Crockett is just over not far from here where he lived on Bean Creek. And there's a lot of history in this area, and you know a lot of Native American mounds that people really don't know about. One of our favorite pastimes when somebody would work the ground up for tobacco everyone kids, it would rain and we would go just fill our pockets with our heads, you know.

1:30:03 And there's so much history in this area. And I just did not know that there was Bigfoot history. Yeah, like I said, I've probably I could probably come up with a half a dozen more pretty cool stories. But I know we've been on a while, so he's probably write a pretty good book too, Roger just saying, but hey, I'll just put that out there. But man, it's been fun chatting with you. I'm I'm going to be keeping tabs on you, like I said, and I think we'll be chatting some sometime in the future too. It may be catching up with you, all right. Yeah, I really appreciate you, know, because it helps anybody out there. If Jeremiah contacts you want you to tell your story, don't be bashful. We're all here. We're here for you.

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