Central Tennessee Under Siege by Sasquatch (Archives)

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faciet, You've got the privilege of
talking with new friend mister Roger Williams today

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from Tennessee. How's it going today, sir? Going a whole lot better

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than the last couple of weeks.
It's great to finally get to talk to

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you. Oh for sure. I've
been waiting for this for a while,

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ever since we first connected. But
I know you were under the weather.

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But we're ready to go now.
Things down there in Tennessee's Roger. Everything's

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going good. We've got everything's blooming. So we all say we don't have

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allergies and we're all sneezing and coffin. But yeah, one of my favorite

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times of the year. Though.
We spend all day today outside and the

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older I get it takes me a
little while to recover from that. I

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can't run with the kids as much
anymore, but going pretty good. I

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can't complain good to hear, good
to hear. Let's get right into it.

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Let's start chatting about your encounters that
you had over the last few years.

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And where does this all start for
you. I'm learning things in reverse.

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I'm fifty two. I had some
things happen, had a sighting when

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I was fourteen, had some things
happened before that, but we didn't have

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any way of researching. If you
go to the library back then, it

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would maybe one or two books and
it would have a lot that's monster and

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UFOs and whatever. But I found
that just like other people that had sightings,

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it never leaves you. You may
get away from it for a little

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while, depending on what's going on
in your life, but it never it

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never goes away. My sighting and
stuff that's happened is not as dramatic as

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actually some of my friends that I've
just found out recently. But we live

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in southern Middle Tennessee, and it's
actually there's actually a ridge system that runs

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in a circle from close to Alabama
all the way above Nashville. And what

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I found is there's been a pretty
active ridge system for years. But to

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get back to how this got started, I'll start when the Finding Bigfoot show

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was on. I didn't I had
no idea that show was on. I

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was cooking for my son one day
and he was about fifteen, and I

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guess he was watching YouTube and so
how he played that and I froze in

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my tracks. I got the got
chills. I'm like, what are you

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listening to? And he's oh,
he started explaining that's money Makers, and

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you show it's the whole house.
Supposedly it's Bigfoot, and I was like,

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I've heard that half a dozen times. And the difference is hearing it

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on speaker versus actually live. And
you hear this a lot, you feel

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it. It goes through you.
And I believe at that time, when

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the most activity was going on,
there was a company that were strip mining

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for phosphate behind our house and where
I hunted, and I believe it had

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it made this thing mad. It
was mad. That was just it's home

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with being torn up, and that's
just my because before it was other things,

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but not the screaming. And so
I remember the first time I saw

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one and I don't know if there
were several I've talked to people lately.

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Since started, I started sharing my
story that are local. That seemed to

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be more than one in this area. I always hunted I was young.

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We lived out in the country there. We didn't stay inside playing video games.

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It's just something you didn't do.
We didn't have all that stuff,

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and so I would go out and
check the fields for deer. While live

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out. Just loved being outside.
And one one particular day, I stepped

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out in this field beside our house
and I hunted maybe four hundred yards around

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the bend up there. And I
had seen my dad, which he was

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five eight, I'd seen him walk
from that way a lot of times.

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So I'm looking, there's no there's
nothing in the field, and I'm just

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about to step away, and I
noticed movement to my left. I had

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misremembered, thinking it was about three
hundred yards. My son and I went

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back a few weeks ago and it's
no more than two hundred. But something

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stepped out on two legs, and
at first the first thing I noticed,

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of course, was the size.
And I had seen the Patty film and

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I don't know if it was my
young mind thought that's what all. That's

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what bigfoot looks like. That's what
all of them looked like or whatever.

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This one was more. It was
more athletic, and I wasn't thinking bigfoot

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at first. But you have to
understand the walkway up this hill I had

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done a lot of times, and
the grass was intertwined. They didn't bushog

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it much, they didn't keep it
clean. So it was actually the shortest

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distance to get back to an alfalfa
field that I like to hunt, but

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I would go the long way because
of that high grass and walking uphill at

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the same time. And so it
turned its shoulders and looked my way,

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and I think it knew I was
there because I had hunted those woods for

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years. I was fourteen. I've
been hunting those woods since time was eight,

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a lot of times going just walking
the creeks by myself and just doing

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kids stuff, and sometimes with my
cousins or whatever. But I wasn't scared,

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I think because of the distance.
But I didn't noticed that if you

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see someone one hundred yards away,
two hundred yards away, you can see

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your hat, your skin, the
neckline of your color of your clothes,

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the wrist here bootlin. You know, it's a person, you know.

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They were in blue jeans. You
may not know who they are. But

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this thing was one color from where
I was at, and it was the

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color of milk chocolate. It wasn't
the dark color you hear people, and

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it wasn't red. It was in
between. And so I knew I was

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seeing something strange. But when it
started up the hill, there was They

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left no doubt because I knew how
I had to walk up the hill and

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how my body. I had to
maneuver my body to get over this grass,

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throwing my legs out to the side, up and over, and it

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was a struggle leaning forward. This
thing started up the hill, had just

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a little bit of body lean with
the back was more or less straight,

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but just a little lean. And
have you ever seen a walking horse so

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its legs up and over how they're
doing the shows. This was the motion

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of this this thing, straight up
and over over the grass, no struggling.

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And the time that it took to
get from point A to point B,

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where I would have taken three to
five minutes, this was over in

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twenty to thirty seconds, which is
a long time to get to see something

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move. And so I didn't panic, and by the time it got to

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the top of the hill, my
mind is just racing like it wasn't the

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neighbor, it wasn't my dad.
And I told my dad about it and

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he laughs. He said that it's
probably Buford, and Beauford was almost ninety

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years old, and what I had
seen had to be one of the best

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athletes in the world. Going back
to that point, I've had people tell

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me when I described it that this
was probably eighteen or eighteenager as far as

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bigfoot goes, because it had white
shoulders, but it was slender at the

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waist, slender, and I was
used to seeing the patty the barrel shape.

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And I told my dad, I
said, no, I think I

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just saw I saw Bigfoot today and
he laughed it all and so that was

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the start of holding it back.
And I think a lot of people have

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found out just recently, in the
past three months, since I talked about

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this for the first time publicly,
I've had people come to me. Some

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of them don't care. They if
people know their name, and some of

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them have jobs that they're scared did
it get out, And they have some

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amazing stories. One of my friends
I went to school with in two thousand

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and eight, not far from here. I had the top off the jeep

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the doors off around midnight, him
and his wife driving and he said,

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this bigfoot stepped almost into the jeep
and in the path of the jeep and

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almost they almost hit. Well Eric, he said, he looks up and

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he can see the bigfoot flinch.
Oh, no, almost got hit.

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So he went to and he's been
researching this ever since, and he went

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to the landowner and he said,
hey, I need to ask you a

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question. He said, okay,
he said, have you ever seen anything

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strange around here and his work?
The next words out of his mouth is,

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I've seen the big boy twice and
so I haven't got to go to

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that spot yet, but that's on
my list. That is that's incredible,

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Roger. The first encounter you shared, that's age fourteen, that's your age

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fourteen. Do you mind if I
ask a few questions about that. It's

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a really interesting encounter. So you
saw it walk up the hill through the

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grass in front of you and then
I just kept on walking, kept walking

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away. Then yeah, what it
was deer animals, Let's just say animals.

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They don't want to be seen.
Most of them. There was what

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I call choke point up on top
of the hill where there was a gate,

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and so when it stepped out,
I don't think it was expecting me

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to be there, and so it
had a decision to make, and it

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took the shortest distance to get behind
some trees. But also that gate never

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stayed shut. It was an old
farm gate that vines had grown over.

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So it walked all the way up
and I barely could see it behind those

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trees and that those thicket, that
thicket. But I believe it the direction

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that was going. That's what it
did because the fence row to its left

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was honeysuckles growing up. Vines just
took it could have course went through if

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it wanted to, but it took
the path of least resistance and the path

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that was furthest away from me.
And yeah, it just walked to the

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It was heading toward the the back
alfalfa field that where I had heard the

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screams. Later and so I with
some other things that have happened that had

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happened, I started putting things together. There was one day. We don't

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in the South, we don't get
a chance to hunt in the snow much

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and that's just it. And there
was a forecast of some snow on Saturday

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morning. They was scol it was
school year, and I was excited.

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The guy had all my stuff ready
the night before I got up, and

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going by myself, I was probably
this was before the sighting. So I'm

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gonna say twelve to thirteen. And
I know that sounds strange, but back

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then in the South, if you
were safe. My dad he trusted me

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and to go do go where I
said I was going to go and do

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the right thing. Eat a little
breakfast, go outside. It's about now

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two to three inches so now,
and it's coming down big flakes, and

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I'm like, this is amazing.
And I go my usual route, which

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is not too far from the sighting. I had later probably one hundred and

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fifty two hundred yards and when I
come out of this it was a logging

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road and it opened up into the
field and in the woods where my tree

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stand was. At the time,
they were so dark. It was daylight,

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but it just had this ominous feel. When I stepped out at the

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edge there and I froze in my
tracks and I'm looking around and I'm like,

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what is this? So I tried
to take a step forward on my

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right foot two or three times,
and I couldn't, And in my head,

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I'm like, this is crazy.
Don't be a whimp. You've got

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a thirty thirty year you're making this
up in your head. I couldn't take

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another step forward, and my gut
just was shaking, my stomach, my

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inside was just trembling. And I've
always listened to my instincts, and I

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was becoming scared and something. I
don't know why I did this. In

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my mind, I'm like, if
you will let me go, I will

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turn to my right, I will
walk back home and I won't come back

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out the day. And as soon
as I had that thought, it's like

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I was let go and the feeling
went away. Everything went away, and

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I turned to my right. I
did exactly what I said I was going

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to do, walked in the house. My mom and dad. They knew

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I'd been excited to go. It's
fifteen to twenty minutes later, what are

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you doing? And I'm like,
I lied. I didn't want to say

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anything. Is it's cold out there? I think I'm going to stay in

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today, and didn't say anything.
I didn't tell anybody that for a long

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time because I wasn't thinking just that, I was thinking. I pumped out,

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So you don't tell on yourself for
that. But now looking back on

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it, I don't know, and
I don't know about I've heard so many

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ideas on what sasquatch could be.
You have the wo side of the natural

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side, And I've had a lady
tell me that the sasquats told told her

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that there was a bear and they
were protecting me. Going back to my

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teenage years, I had things happen
that I couldn't explain that didn't I didn't

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think much about it. But now
there may be more interactions than I knew.

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Because we didn't know about tree knocks. We didn't know about the tree

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breaks, we didn't know about the
whistles. You hear all this stuff and

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you're learning. You're a young hunter. You're hey, something's whistling, it's

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a bird, it's whatever. But
now now when we hear something like that,

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you can tell the difference. Sometimes
you can't. Everything and everything's not

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I'm not one of those people.
Everything is not a bigfoot. If I

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get a new sound on video or
whatever. I've got a friend that's former

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game boarding. He's I go right
to him, Hey, what is this?

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Do you know what this is?
And if he knows, he'll let

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me know, and then I'll go
research that on YouTube. You know,

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Oh yeah, that's what that is. I'm good to know. I've been

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lucky enough that I did. My
one resource was my friend Don that he

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was a game warden for years around
here. He'd had reports and so when

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I don't remember how it came up, but I started telling him about this

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stuff, he encouraged me, and
he asked me questions and he didn't make

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me feel I guess bashful about it
because I don't know how it was in

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all parts of the country. But
you know, I heard somebody the other

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night say country people are like mountain
people. You just don't talk about certain

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things. And that was the attitude
I heard. They would say things like

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y'all need to be getting in before
before dark and all that. But I

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did understand too some of that was
trying to get the kids to this mind

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and come in. People use that
a lot. But so going back,

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I'm never I don't think I'll ever
be like some of the shows for entertainment.

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Oh that's a squatch or whatever.
People that don't haven't been out in

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the woods. They want things to
be by sasquatch or whatever, and it's

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just not the case. But there
have been other things that's happened my mom

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and dad. My dad had shut
me down pretty quick when I told him

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that story, and it was about
no more than two years later. They

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were out Southern folks back in the
day, not much population. They'd get

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out and they drink a beer too, listen to music or whatever, and

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just relax or whatever in the dirt
roads and never bothered anybody because the houses

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were so far in between. One
night he got out to relieve himself,

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and I think my mom might have
too, and there was a bank I

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think he was told about twelve foot
eye. And then they had a four

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foot fence and had the car running
the brake lights trip they were shining.

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The headlights were shining the other way, and he heard a tree snap,

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a big, a pretty good side
of the sapling. He'd been out in

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the woods his whole life, so
immediately he knew it had to be something

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big. A horse could rub up
us against something or cow or whatever.

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But he said it was different.
It was just it was a just like

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a snap like it was just pull, just snapped over, just instant break.

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And the next thing that happened he
heard it take off running and it

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sounded like it was on two legs, jumped the fence, landed in the

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road behind him. He didn't know
how far back it was. It was

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too close, he said. And
when it landed in the road, she

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said, it was boom, and
he felt it. And my dad was

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a matter of fact that you got
to show me. I never saw him

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scared of anything, he said.
He screamed at my mom, get in

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the car now, and he said, Roger, as it was running,

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it was uphill to them. As
it was running, the footfall when the

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foot hit the ground, it would
kick rocks towards them, and he got

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in the car. They got in
the car and left. So this place

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is called Simmons Ridge Road. And
I just recently asked. We were driving

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through during the day and I saw
some of the people that lived that have

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been living here for years. And
now I'm not as self conscious about it,

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so I throw it into a conversation, right, I'm like, hey,

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you've ever seen a bigfoot? And
not all that. Some of them

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look at you like you're dumb h
every now and then you get The answer

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was no, But my brother said
he saw one in the field back there.

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Right. So we drive up the
road and this is the road that

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my mom and dad had the experience
on. So we see my wife's cousins.

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I never had met him before.
She's supportive, and she's heard some

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things, and she's starting to believe
I never had met her cousin before.

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And I just did the same thing. Have you ever seen a bigfoot?

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And he his demeanor changed. He
said no, but I think I've heard

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one a couple of times just over
this ridge. And she it may like,

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that's amazing when we're talking about as
a crow flies not three miles from

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my first sighting. Right, You
got all these ridges that interconnect, and

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animals use those for quick getaways.
They will run a ridge and if that

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if something spooks on a deer,
it'll take a let They know where they're

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at, they know they get away
there avoid people and whatever predators. So

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these I think these rich systems,
they're using them or that I don't know

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if they still are. Because after
the after they tore the terrain up when

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I was fourteen, the screams and
the activity slowed way down. I guess

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nothing because after the last few screams
I heard and failed, they were finishing

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up. And you've got to understand, you take it don't sound like much

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to somebody in Wyoming, but here, you take a couple thousand acres and

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clear it. You've taken away their
travel or any animal, their travel where

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they can stay hit. It was
pretty thick back there, and they turned

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them into just fields. But for
the stories that I've heard talking to people,

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I think they didn't move too too
far. I think maybe north a

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little bit along the there's a duck
river with rocks and outcroppings. My wife's

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family they have about about one hundred
and thirty acres up there. It's about

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twenty miles from here, and we've
recently had had active So from fourteen or

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fifteen we moved to an area not
far from Simon Dridge. But I didn't

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have anything happen at that location.
It was always in the back of my

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mind. There was only one instance
that I heard a tree snap with my

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cousin. I had killed a deer. We had to track it. It

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got dark on us and there was
no There were no cows there shouldn't have

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been anybody out there in a dark
way out where we were, and I

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always thought it could have been a
mountain lion, But now going back and

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thinking of how it actually sounded,
it would have had to have been a

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very two hundred pound something stepping on
a green fall tree fall, And now

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it makes more sense that it was
a maybe a snap, but I don't

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know that. I'm not going to
say that's what it was. But went

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all these years, didn't forget about
it, but didn't. I didn't go

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looking for this to start with,
so I wasn't the only time I ever

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looked for tracks was when they did
finish up the fields and they had moved

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all the dirt out, and I'm
like, you know what this is where

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this thing walked up through here,
and if it's something that's big in the

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wood, that's going to leave track. So I did go when that was

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fresh, and that's I think that's
the only time I really looked for tracks,

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and I didn't find any. Okay, we fast forward and probably three

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years ago. My son he has
some family in the south end of the

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even further south than here, and
we're not we're We're are twenty five minutes

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from the Alabama border. So we're
I and I've heard a lot of stuff

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come out of North Alabama, northeast, especially in the hills. He was

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a light hunting in years, and
he was like, Dad, my uncle's

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gonna let us hunt. And he
said you could come too. I'm okay,

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And it was more or less I
went as just to have an experience

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with him, and I said,
look, I won't I'll carry something rifle

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with me. I won't be hunting. I'll just be there and we'll we'll

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carry walks with us. And so
we had to. It was two weeks

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before the season, and I'm like, do you know anything about the place?

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He said not really. I said, we need to go scout a

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little bit, and Bigfoot's the farthest
thing from my mind. We go up

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there, we find the water sources, we find the food, we find

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the fences, the holes and the
fences where they travel, and we're just

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having a big time walking and we're
not being that quiet because we're just scouted.

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And we get to a particular point
and I see a tree about five

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and a half foot up and it's
a hard would it because when whatever snapped

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it, it splintered and just like
a high pressure snap being me and I've

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always taught him the question and look
for the answers, don't assume. So

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I'm looking around and I don't see
anything that fell on it. I don't

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see anything at that time. The
top was still there, attached, and

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I'm looking around. I'm like,
you know what I'm thinking. I'm thinking

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that to myself. I'm like,
I've seen some of these shows that say

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this as a marker, could be
a marker, and don't go past it.

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Whatever. Maybe it was less Strout
and those guys, but I really

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I wasn't thinking Bigfoot. But it
was odd, very odd, and no

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reason for it. Okay. So
I had my phone in my pocket,

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my shirt pocket. I help past
this tree, and this all happened at

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the same time. So Siri,
which I'm scared to say it, she

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might wake up here on my phone
triggered and my voice is the only thing

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is supposed to trigger that. And
Siri said, I don't quite understand,

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and I look down in my pocket
and I grabbed the phone. Because I'm

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grabbing the phone. About beside of
your double fizz, A rock comes over

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the cedar up the hill, over
the cedar thicket. They're not very high

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in lands. I'm gonna say twelve
to fifteen yards from us. Bounces down

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and I hear it. To my
right, my son's looking at it.

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I hear it. I look up. I see the rock slowing down.

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But it was so much to take
in all of a sudden. Now I've

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got my son out here, and
we just had a rock of us,

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and there's nobody out there, and
you wroop. Something that throws rock has

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to have a thumb or two,
has to have a hand. So I

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didn't rap right away. What I
was doing. I was thinking, what

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is our best action here? Because
any wild animal, you don't want to

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run, You don't want to trigger
a response to get attacked or whatever.

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So I'm thinking, what's the best
thing we need to do with my son.

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He's so funny. The first thing
out of his mouth, he said,

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are we just going to ignore that
we had our rock tossed at us?

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Know? If Peyton just calmed down, just hold on. I'm I'm

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trying to figure out what we need
to do. I said, So here's

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what we need to do. We
need to walk down the hill backwards.

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So we're facing whatever this is,
and don't look up in there. Let's

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get away and we'll talk about this. And so we went back to the

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truck and we're like, what just
happened? And so we started talking about

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the marker. I said the tree. It was right there at the tree.

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And he said, what was up
with Siri? I said, I

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that's never happened before. So my
question hearing people talk about infrasound and all

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this could infrasound trigger SIRI because I've
had that feeling. I've seen people where

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they go with the with the line
and then measure the infrasound and they're like,

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oh, do you feel anything,
and their jittery and whatever, and

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so that's my first question was like, neither one of us said a word,

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so that's not supposed to happen.
Second, all, we've got the

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marker and then we've got the rock
toss. The Siri by itself wouldn't have

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been a big deal. The tree
by itself wouldn't have been a big deal,

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but put together with the rock toss, it became very big deal.

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And it scared me because but we
didn't feel threatened though that's what we talked

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about. We didn't feel threatened.
We talked about should we go back,

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and we did. We went in
before daylight. We had put him up

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a stand in a few days after
that. Where I hunt, it's not

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two hundred to two hundred fifty yards
from that spot where he hunts is over

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over the ridge. It's not one
hundred and fifty yards. And like I

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said, we've never felt threatened there, and there have been times. One

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morning I was there had and the
breeze was blowing. It was from up

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the hill. I don't know what
direction actually that is. You pay attention

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to it as a hunter. Okay, we've got the breeze coming this way.

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I knew that Peyton was good and
that I was good anything up the

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hill. And I'm sitting there,
been sitting there for forty five minutes.

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It hasn't started breaking daylight yet,
but it's getting close. So there so

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fresh air, nice morning. I'm
close to the spring water source and I'm

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actually sitting blind on the ground,
which I don't like doing that, but

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I was backed up into a bank
with some trees and stuff, so I

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felt like I had that spot covered
keep something from walking up on me.

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I get a whiff of the only
thing it did smell like a wet dog,

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but it had a an element like
death decay, no, listen,

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decay, wet dog with decay.
Right, And I perked up and it's

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behind me and that's where the wind
was blowing. There's just a light breeze,

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maybe three seconds. It was quick. But here's the thing. You

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know, I've smelled dead animals,
and but when if you do and the

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wind blowing to you, you're gonna
keep smelling it. Right. So I'm

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like, this thing is moving,
whatever this is that's moving, And I

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got on the walkie and I'm like, Peyton, I'm not trying to scare

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you. We've got something coming in
between us that stinks like something I've never

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actually smelled before, and it's moving. I think it's coming to you.

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He never got a whiff of it, which is even more strange. And

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we have smelled this on more than
one occasion, and he's got a whiff

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of it a couple of times,
but we've never ever felt threatened. And

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he's had some strange things, some
sounds. He was by hisself one day

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and I got a text. I'll
check up on him quite a bit because

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it's in the nowhere and he's twenty
five, so he can take Yeah,

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but you just don't. It's not
smart to hunt by yourself. But as

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long as he checks up with me
ever so often. And I said,

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let me know when you're leaving and
all that. He said, Daddy,

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I just heard what sounded like a
monkey. He said. It was the

408
00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:39.559
build up and then yet kind of
a yell. He said, it wasn't

409
00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:45.960
a scream, and it was the
direction that came from was over the same

410
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:50.440
direction as the marker and the rock
throw, but even further over on the

411
00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:52.519
other side of the hill. And
he said, at first I thought it

412
00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:58.639
was a bull, he said,
but on the beginning of it, but

413
00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:02.880
as it followed through with it,
he said it wasn't. And he's in

414
00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:07.320
a little bit of his background.
He's always loved animals. If you have

415
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:12.280
a question about an animal, I
don't care if it's in Australia. He

416
00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:15.280
grew up watching Steve Irwin. He
the teachers loved him because they could ask

417
00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:20.440
him about this rare bird in Mexico
and he was like, oh, yeah,

418
00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:28.119
that's that was his thing. So
he's not inexperienced as far as things

419
00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:31.480
like you know, and he's really
level headed. He's the first thing we

420
00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:37.280
do is we question what could this
be? First? Always, and you'll

421
00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:40.800
find the answer a lot of times. That's why I'm saying, not everything's

422
00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:49.239
that squat. I really like the
way he approaches things and went. But

423
00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:53.719
when he tells me something, I
believe because it's because it's between us.

424
00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:59.800
There's no sensational it's just, hey, Daddy, we might need to keep

425
00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:07.320
an on this or whatever. We've
had strange things happen and we've been there.

426
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:13.559
We went back last year and it
was dry. That's the first thing

427
00:37:13.800 --> 00:37:15.079
we knew. It was drying our
county. But that's the first thing I

428
00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:20.599
noticed. The spring was almost nothing. The ponds were dry. It had

429
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:23.760
a totally different feel the whole area
did We didn't hear anything, We didn't

430
00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:30.000
see anything, and we've been several
times where we didn't. But last hunting

431
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:36.760
season. After that, he's walking
his ridge up to his tree stand and

432
00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:40.800
I go to my spot and we
don't text each other because it lights up.

433
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:44.960
Right, I got a text.
So when I got a text,

434
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:49.440
I'm like, oh, and it's
really a miracle that I actually got the

435
00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:52.159
text because of the signal. It
was like a signal back in there and

436
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:55.280
the pictures coming through, and it
took a while, and when it finally

437
00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:59.239
came through, I don't know.
You may have seen the picture in the

438
00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:05.960
one of the groups on Facebook,
but it's the thorn tree. It really

439
00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:08.000
hard, really tough, no scuffs
on it, and it looks something and

440
00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:12.800
taken like this and broke it down. And there was probably one hundred and

441
00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:16.239
fifty two hundred of those on this
ridge and it used to be a field

442
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:22.000
and it has grown up now.
And he saw it and he snapped the

443
00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:29.199
picture of it, got the flash
and he like wh And so after our

444
00:38:29.280 --> 00:38:31.880
hunts over it, he takes me
up there, and that's the first thing

445
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:36.039
we do. We look around it. We look maybe see if a tractor

446
00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:42.199
maybe have done had made that damage. I didn't think so because of the

447
00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:45.920
way it was done. All of
the thorns, some of the thorns are

448
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:51.760
three inches long. All of those
branches and thorns are intact. So if

449
00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:53.559
a truck runs over something like that, they're gonna knock some of those off.

450
00:38:53.719 --> 00:38:58.480
If a bull rubs up against it, it's going to knock some of

451
00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:06.480
those off. Everything was in tight
except that four and it was and so

452
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:13.519
have you ever when we were kids, when we'd have sap, we'd be

453
00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:15.000
out. We didn't have a lot
of toys. We'd be outside all the

454
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:19.440
time. It's seven or eight years
old. We would go and pick a

455
00:39:19.559 --> 00:39:22.719
sapling, climb up it a little
bit, and it's not going to support

456
00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:25.800
your weight, so you would ride
it down right exactly. Yeah, I

457
00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:31.039
know exactly what you're talking about.
So when one of those breaks, i'll

458
00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:36.119
call it a soft break. It'll
bend, it'll put pressure, you know,

459
00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:40.719
and give it'll give way and it'll
split, but it may split in

460
00:39:40.920 --> 00:39:45.480
a bunch of different places or whatever. And you can tell that the pressure

461
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:50.159
was from up in the tree.
And then somebody wrote it down, well,

462
00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:57.199
these what's strange about these particular trees
being a harder wood, And it

463
00:39:57.280 --> 00:40:00.480
looked like something just snapped it right
there at that point, if you take

464
00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:05.039
let's say, I may have one
here. I know this is crazy.

465
00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:07.519
I don't know if anybody can see
this or whatever, but got a number

466
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:13.840
two pencil. If I take and
break this thing like this, it's bending

467
00:40:14.039 --> 00:40:16.400
and it's gonna break somewhere in here. But if I push pressure right there,

468
00:40:16.599 --> 00:40:21.639
I know where it's gonna break.
It's gonna break right there. And

469
00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:25.039
that's a high pressure break. So
that's the difference in something that a softer

470
00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:29.639
would that. So anyway, and
I know, expert, I've just been

471
00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:35.559
in the wood and you know it. And I'm always open to somebody educating

472
00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:44.000
me. I notice things like that, and if I can't explain it,

473
00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:49.679
I'll keep trying. But some of
these I can't other And I don't know

474
00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:54.079
if you've heard Mike Blueler, I
haven't know, Okay, he's I helped

475
00:40:54.119 --> 00:40:59.559
co host with him on Red Creek
Mafia on YouTube, and I heard his

476
00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:07.320
on Cliff and Bobo podcast coming home
from work, right and there were some

477
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:15.400
things he said that made me realize, Okay, one thing he was talking

478
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:17.679
about was the size of the forearm. He had a really close encounter last

479
00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:22.480
than a while, but the size
of the forearms and the fingers looked like

480
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:27.239
bananas, the size of bananas.
And I'm driving home and I'm like,

481
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:32.679
if that's the case, then what
I thought was a tough tree break for

482
00:41:32.800 --> 00:41:37.920
something might not be as hard as
what I thought. So I contacted him

483
00:41:38.039 --> 00:41:44.800
through email and can I talk to
you because this stuff started happening. I

484
00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:52.280
started I started, there's podcast now, of course, and he was nice

485
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:57.840
enough to answer back, and we
hit it off, and I just I

486
00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:04.480
asked him all kinds of questions,
like what did this look like? What

487
00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:09.239
did that look like? And we've
learned. We've learned a lot of stuff

488
00:42:09.239 --> 00:42:20.239
in the last three months because of
the guests that's come on. Because I

489
00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:24.159
told my story or one of my
stories. I had a friend to contact

490
00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:29.719
me on messenger on Facebook and said, hey, Roger, you remember when

491
00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:34.960
my brother and I lived Verona,
Caney Creek whatever, And I'm like,

492
00:42:35.039 --> 00:42:37.239
yeah, he said, we walked
up on one. They were like twelve,

493
00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:42.920
He said, we walked up on
one. He's the farmer had said

494
00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:46.480
keep an eye out because something was
stealing his calves. And he said when

495
00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:51.320
they fished the creek down there,
they would walk through and they heard some

496
00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:55.639
of the calves bawling and making noise, and so they walked over there and

497
00:42:55.760 --> 00:42:59.639
he's got his brother with him,
younger brother, a couple of years younger,

498
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:04.000
and he said we he said,
my mind couldn't make sense of it

499
00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:07.840
at first, but it was a
big foot and he had a calf by

500
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:10.760
the leg dragging it through a fence. And when it saw us, he

501
00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:16.960
said, it looked irritated that we
had seen him, and he let the

502
00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:21.559
calf go, turned walked off and
turned and looked at him and did a

503
00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:25.920
huff, you know, And he
said, I saw his teeth. He

504
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:30.239
said, close enough, twenty yards
he saw his teeth, and he stepped

505
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:35.679
over the four four strand the barber
just stepped right over it and walked across

506
00:43:35.719 --> 00:43:39.519
his field. And I'm just I'm
floored. I talked to him for two

507
00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:43.840
hours. I'm like, Kevin,
how come? He said, I didn't

508
00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:47.199
know. Everybody was laughed at me. I'm glad you finally you told your

509
00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:50.199
story. He said. I don't
feel as crazy now, but I know

510
00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:53.440
what I saw, and nobody ever
tell me. Wow. And this was

511
00:43:53.559 --> 00:44:00.639
something that he had a thirty second
to a minute sighting and up close and

512
00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:07.480
personal. And that see, I'm
not the bravest person in the world.

513
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:10.679
So that's two hundred yard cushion that
I had. Even though I was probably

514
00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:15.159
wrong. I felt like I could
get to the back door quit quicker than

515
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:20.360
he could get me, which that's
how kids think. But twenty yards fifteen

516
00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:22.400
twenty yards, I don't know if
I would make it through that art while.

517
00:44:23.360 --> 00:44:30.199
But it just it just confirms there
are people around this country that might

518
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:37.280
listen to this. It's okay now
that I don't know if he shows the

519
00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:45.679
negative if you say something about bigfoot. I mean, I've got deodor and

520
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:52.679
in the it's everywhere. Yeah,
right, it's everywhere. I've got stuff

521
00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:57.119
people give me. I told this
story and I thought, yeah, they're

522
00:44:57.119 --> 00:44:59.840
gonna think I'm nuts. Somebody went
to Branson, Missouri and brought me back

523
00:44:59.840 --> 00:45:05.079
to Posters. That's got a Sasquat's
Thames Park there. I didn't know that,

524
00:45:05.320 --> 00:45:09.719
yeah, exactly. And so now
but here's the problem. Yeh.

525
00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:17.800
The problem now you run into which
is a little bit before. I didn't

526
00:45:17.800 --> 00:45:23.079
go looking for this. We do
go out now, and I've got a

527
00:45:23.079 --> 00:45:29.400
couple of situations where I slowed down
a little bit. But there are people

528
00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:35.000
that want to have an experience so
bad that every every leaf, every twig

529
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:38.360
break, every the other night.
Yep. I know exactly what you're talking

530
00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:44.079
about, Roger. Yeah, and
you don't want to. I'm sitting there

531
00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:47.679
telling y'all saw a bigfoot, so
I can't tell another person they didn't,

532
00:45:49.440 --> 00:45:52.440
right, I'm not gonna do that
I'm gonna listen to you. Now,

533
00:45:52.480 --> 00:45:55.159
if you show me pictures and you've
been faking some stuff, I'm not gonna

534
00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:58.119
hurt your feelings. But I'm just
going, oh yeah, that's cool.

535
00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:01.000
But if it's if it looks legit, I'm going to pick your brain.

536
00:46:01.639 --> 00:46:07.440
Hey, can you take me out
there? Yeah? So, but I

537
00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:15.920
think I can my bes meters pretty
pretty good now there yet. Now there's

538
00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:22.679
some will get past you. But
that's okay. But I think some of

539
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:29.639
them want an experience so bad they'll
they'll see pictures, they'll find things,

540
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:32.719
the Paradoia thing, and but I
can't say anything about that. I've got

541
00:46:34.079 --> 00:46:37.800
I had a couple of things happened
to me where my son said, he's

542
00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:39.880
what is this? And he circled
it in it And I've got a picture

543
00:46:40.599 --> 00:46:45.039
that i'll send you later. I
had a tree fall. We had a

544
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:49.920
gifting spot. We tried this.
We heard these other people, so we

545
00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:52.960
had some activity. We have some
strange sounds, strange smells, the sounds

546
00:46:53.000 --> 00:47:00.880
for footfalls, like it come off
one of the large rocks and boom like

547
00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:05.480
a six hundred pound cow but two
feet. A lot of strange things was

548
00:47:05.519 --> 00:47:07.840
happening at this one location and we
would go out there at night. I

549
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:12.480
used to sit outside the truck.
Now sit inside the truck, I don't.

550
00:47:13.159 --> 00:47:19.400
But we went back one day and
we gifted we put some some fruit

551
00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:23.400
and stuff out there. Meant,
my son and I we were out there,

552
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:28.719
and I've got it on audio on
the video, but it's hard and

553
00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:32.480
I'm embarrassed because it scared me so
bad that I said some very good words.

554
00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:37.079
It just came out, and I'm
like, I didn't even realize it

555
00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:43.880
didn't until we replayed it. And
what happened. We went in. We

556
00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:47.440
found the spot where we'd had all
the strange stuff that the smells and stuff

557
00:47:47.480 --> 00:47:52.840
at night. So we went in
during the day and it's on some family

558
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:58.679
land and we had a bag of
fruit, and we had a rake with

559
00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:01.440
me to What I was to do
is put out some stuff and then break

560
00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:06.119
all the leaves up and clear in
case something stepped in to get it.

561
00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:12.039
Then I would maybe get a footprint
or something like that. And as soon

562
00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:17.440
as we walked in, not only
did we hear stuff, but we could

563
00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:22.760
hear stuff before we heard stuff Like
we heard it sounded like a log was

564
00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:28.840
thrown, like a log that had
been down for a few months. A

565
00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:31.920
log was thrown and it was thrown
so hard, and there's these big rocks.

566
00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:35.480
It's close to that river I was
talking about, so a lot of

567
00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:38.440
the top soles gone. And it
sounded like it was thrown against one of

568
00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:43.079
those rocks and it broke, and
it didn't sound like it was green.

569
00:48:44.280 --> 00:48:47.119
It was it had been there a
while. But the thing was we were

570
00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:52.960
so close. We heard it pick
it up and pick up like you pick

571
00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:55.760
up one in and drag it to
you. Oh wow, And you can

572
00:48:55.800 --> 00:48:59.400
hear me in the video. I'm
up. Wait. So before all these

573
00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:04.920
sounds of these it sounds, we
could hear the other movement and then we

574
00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:09.599
get the high pressure tree snaps just
cracked, and we're talking fifty to sixty

575
00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:15.199
yards through the woods and just out
of sight. All the stuff that happened

576
00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:20.840
here has just been out of sight. Trees been I almost say, I

577
00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:23.000
hate to even say pushed over,
but what are the odds of these trees

578
00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:28.920
falling? And I had one,
I've got it on video where I went

579
00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:32.280
back by myself a couple days later
to check the fruit and this tree that

580
00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:38.599
had been broken and suspended there it
decided to fall while I was videoing for

581
00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:43.719
all the rest of the way.
And that's where I get the I hate

582
00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:47.880
to say this, the cloaking look
figure in the picture. I didn't see

583
00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:52.400
it while I was there, so
but something and my son and everybody's looked

584
00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:58.239
at this video is like it almost
looked like it was pulled down, like

585
00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:01.920
bend up over here, and then
this back end responded to it. So

586
00:50:02.039 --> 00:50:07.800
anyway, the day, a couple
of days before we had all this activity,

587
00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:15.480
it sounded like maybe a thirty pound
boulder toss. Like I said,

588
00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:21.840
it's about fifty yards away and all
this noise. It sounded like something was

589
00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:25.960
irritated that we were there. But
the final thing, so close to the

590
00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:32.159
final thing that scared me was a
series of sounds where I heard it,

591
00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:39.559
heard something pick up something like a
tree that had fallen or something. And

592
00:50:39.599 --> 00:50:45.760
then the best way I can explain
it after listening to it fifty time is

593
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:52.199
it sounded like it picked it up
or heard that. And you know how

594
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:55.719
some of the tennis players grunt when
they hit the tenant or when they exert

595
00:50:55.719 --> 00:51:00.760
a lot of energy. I don't
know if baseball players do it, but

596
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:06.719
maybe somebody with an axe. They're
putting everything they got into it, and

597
00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:14.000
you hear that when I hear the
right as the tree or whatever it was

598
00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:20.480
hit another piece of wood and it
broke. There was a huff so loud

599
00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:25.599
and so big that I can just
imagine the nostrils just being massive, and

600
00:51:25.639 --> 00:51:30.480
it was so deep, and that's
when the cuss words come out, and

601
00:51:30.519 --> 00:51:34.360
I'm like, oh, we may
be in trouble. And here I am

602
00:51:34.559 --> 00:51:37.079
thinking, you eat it. You've
got your son out here, and you

603
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:38.960
done walked up in the middle of
something and you may not be able to

604
00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:43.519
get out of it. That's how
big this thing sounded. What's interesting is,

605
00:51:43.639 --> 00:51:46.960
of course the video doesn't do it
justice as far as the volume,

606
00:51:47.960 --> 00:51:52.840
but everybody we've shown this video to
put the headphones in and they listen to

607
00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:55.239
it. So here's what we get. That sounds like a line, that

608
00:51:55.280 --> 00:52:00.360
sounds like a bear, that sounds
like all these huge mammals right southern Middleton's

609
00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:04.760
we don't have lines. We don't
have I don't know if a baric can

610
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:08.039
make that sound. They're talking that. When they hear it, they know

611
00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:13.119
it's something big and it's not a
horse. A horse. You hear a

612
00:52:13.159 --> 00:52:17.280
horse. You know what a horse
sounds like. Right, This thing expelled

613
00:52:17.320 --> 00:52:25.000
so much airror while it was exerting
this pressure or this energy that I could

614
00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:31.119
almost see the nostrils in my It
had to be huge, and it had

615
00:52:31.159 --> 00:52:36.320
to be big to make the noises. And we had a final tree break.

616
00:52:36.360 --> 00:52:39.280
But what we did, it did. It scared me. It scared

617
00:52:39.320 --> 00:52:43.840
me so bad that we didn't go
back for a while. But I said,

618
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:46.239
in my head, oh, I
told my son, you didn't seeing

619
00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:52.960
the video. I said, Okay, clear your mind, and I said,

620
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:55.760
we're not here to hurt you.
We're not here. We're just curious

621
00:52:55.760 --> 00:53:00.559
and we don't want to be hurt
either. We're just Yeah. I didn't

622
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:02.480
know if that was the right thing, but I felt like it's something I

623
00:53:02.519 --> 00:53:07.239
need to do. And when I
did it, I don't know if it's

624
00:53:07.239 --> 00:53:10.079
and orphans or what it was,
but I got this you for it feeling.

625
00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:14.639
So I'm being cool and calm,
trying to be and I said,

626
00:53:14.639 --> 00:53:20.320
Tayton, what are you feeling right
now? He said, the whole field

627
00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:24.440
of the woods just changed. Now. I don't know if that's power suggestion.

628
00:53:24.599 --> 00:53:27.719
I don't know if that made us
feel better. It could be.

629
00:53:28.719 --> 00:53:34.159
But what we went through for fifteen
minutes and that ending on that I knew

630
00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:38.519
we would wed ticked something off.
I knew it. I knew this thing

631
00:53:38.639 --> 00:53:43.000
is not good. And we took
a break. He hadn't been back.

632
00:53:43.559 --> 00:53:45.719
He has not been back. He's
not a small guy, can daycare of

633
00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:50.639
himself. And he said, I'm
not going back there. I did the

634
00:53:50.679 --> 00:53:53.280
next day. I keep saying that. A couple of days later, and

635
00:53:53.280 --> 00:54:00.440
that's when the tree was either pulled
down or fell down. And I don't

636
00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:07.159
know. I can't explain a lot
of this stuff talking. It is good

637
00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:13.760
to talk to people and get their
opinion to what it might be. You

638
00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:22.960
know, if you when you get
that gut feeling something wrong. I'm fifty

639
00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:25.960
two years old, I've done some
stupid stuff. I've got scars, broke

640
00:54:27.039 --> 00:54:30.960
bones, and just before that happened, you get this feeling like, oh,

641
00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:37.199
I did it again. Some of
this is we started having these interactions,

642
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:43.119
and I think we got a little
overzealous. We're not We're trying to

643
00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:45.840
figure out some things, and I
just don't want to get hurt in the

644
00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:49.679
process. I don't want to get
him hurting the process or anybody, And

645
00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:54.840
there's so much. There's so much
that's happened. My wife was with me

646
00:54:54.880 --> 00:55:01.280
one night at the same area and
over to our right, she's on the

647
00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:06.280
way I parked. The left side
is where this area is, and she

648
00:55:06.440 --> 00:55:09.400
can hear and see on this right
side it's dark, good and quiet.

649
00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:15.400
And she said, what is that
what? And she said, up in

650
00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:22.559
that tree and just across the drive
back in there there's some trees and saplings,

651
00:55:22.599 --> 00:55:31.039
a few cedars, and there was
a light. It wasn't like it

652
00:55:31.079 --> 00:55:36.840
wasn't fluorescent, it wasn't led or
anything that bright. It was more of

653
00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:45.800
like a moon moon like when it's
not that it's bright. It's not a

654
00:55:45.800 --> 00:55:50.920
full moon, just half or crescent
or whatever. So I'm looking at it

655
00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:52.719
and that's the first thing I think, what's the moon? She said,

656
00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:59.639
no, it's not, because it's
over there. Okay, So we're looking

657
00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:04.880
and it's not pulsating. It's not, but it does get gradually bigger.

658
00:56:05.239 --> 00:56:09.760
That's about the size of a just
not quite the side of the tennis ball

659
00:56:09.800 --> 00:56:14.039
when I first see it. And
it's not perfectly around either. And we

660
00:56:14.159 --> 00:56:16.400
keep watching this one from fifteen or
twenty minutes. This is the same area

661
00:56:16.880 --> 00:56:20.400
I have people say, well,
that comes along with the big Foot,

662
00:56:21.360 --> 00:56:24.559
and we watch it. And I
backed the truck up to get different views

663
00:56:24.559 --> 00:56:29.440
of it, and I said,
how far you think that up in the

664
00:56:29.480 --> 00:56:31.039
tree there? She said, I
don't know how to tell. I said,

665
00:56:31.119 --> 00:56:34.960
do you know how a basketball goal
is? She said, oh yeah.

666
00:56:35.519 --> 00:56:37.039
I said, do you think that's
in which it was? Do you

667
00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:40.639
think that's about the same height?
She said, yeah, it is.

668
00:56:40.760 --> 00:56:46.440
I said, so it's not a
person with a light. We're ruling that

669
00:56:46.559 --> 00:56:52.440
out. It got bigger and it
was misshaping, and then it come back

670
00:56:53.000 --> 00:56:58.320
gradually or twenty minutes, and I
would move forward and backward to get better

671
00:56:58.320 --> 00:57:00.239
looks at it, and it just
faded out. We don't know what that

672
00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:05.039
was. It shouldn't be there.
I went a few days later, going

673
00:57:05.079 --> 00:57:07.599
behind during the day and look to
see if there's any trail cams, any

674
00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:15.599
light sources, any any place where
something like that could be hung up there.

675
00:57:15.760 --> 00:57:19.960
And it's not there. There was
no place, there's no tracks,

676
00:57:20.119 --> 00:57:24.239
the leaves, there's no disturbances.
So no, it wasn't something somebody put

677
00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:29.880
up there, is what I'm saying, And that's that in itself is just

678
00:57:29.920 --> 00:57:34.519
strange. But and then you pair
it with this other activity that we've had

679
00:57:34.920 --> 00:57:39.559
and we just don't know. We
were out and we've been married a little

680
00:57:39.559 --> 00:57:45.840
over three years, we've been together
four, so she's she's so good.

681
00:57:47.639 --> 00:57:54.760
When we first met, let's say, Skinwalker Ranch, some of the some

682
00:57:54.760 --> 00:58:00.239
of the big Foot shows, some
of the YouTube stuff, I'm like,

683
00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:05.480
she's gonna think I'm crazy, but
she didn't. We're in the Boy Whom

684
00:58:06.880 --> 00:58:09.360
two years ago in April this,
yeah, it was two years ago,

685
00:58:12.800 --> 00:58:15.199
and we go back I think it
was Tory Lake. We went to Cowboy

686
00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:20.599
Cafe, we got something to eat, and we had enough time to go

687
00:58:20.639 --> 00:58:22.559
back in here. I had actually
looked it up as a place you could

688
00:58:22.639 --> 00:58:30.119
drive back and just beautiful. Nobody
back there, and I had a video

689
00:58:30.199 --> 00:58:35.480
going and I made the comment being
stupid, just being extra country. I

690
00:58:35.519 --> 00:58:37.880
don't know if y'all know this or
not, boys, but this is it's

691
00:58:37.880 --> 00:58:39.280
a jetty country right here. And
I was gonna send it back to my

692
00:58:39.320 --> 00:58:45.599
buddies and show them just how it's
hard to describe how beautiful this was and

693
00:58:45.639 --> 00:58:51.719
how far back and the river and
I expected to see a grizzly or mountain

694
00:58:51.719 --> 00:58:55.800
line any second, and whatever bears
they have. We go to the back,

695
00:58:55.840 --> 00:58:59.480
we go nine miles back in,
we turn around, we got the

696
00:58:59.480 --> 00:59:05.800
windows. Now her coming back out, and I'm barely going. We're looking

697
00:59:05.840 --> 00:59:10.880
at everything. We're in awe,
and on her side of the truck there's

698
00:59:10.880 --> 00:59:22.559
an ahaow. Now, it's not
like it didn't have the volume that that

699
00:59:22.280 --> 00:59:29.119
I had heard before. And when
you get in those mountains, that mountain

700
00:59:29.119 --> 00:59:34.119
may look like it's a mile away, it could be ten. So I

701
00:59:34.159 --> 00:59:36.760
actually thought it was somebody messing with
us. But then when you think about

702
00:59:36.760 --> 00:59:39.480
it, there were no vehicles.
It might have been a hiker. Right.

703
00:59:39.840 --> 00:59:44.360
But she looked at me and she
said, she said, did you

704
00:59:44.440 --> 00:59:45.800
just hear that? Yeah? I
actually did. What do you think it

705
00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:49.360
was? She said, all I
know I've been watching too man of those

706
00:59:49.400 --> 00:59:52.039
shows with you. Where was this
again, Roger? This was in the

707
00:59:52.159 --> 01:00:01.400
Boys Wyoming? Oh okay, wow, yeah, and it was. I

708
01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:04.840
had talked to Don, my game
warning friend. He's now, Roger,

709
01:00:04.920 --> 01:00:08.639
don't write it off because it could
have been a smaller one and it could

710
01:00:08.679 --> 01:00:14.519
have been two miles away. And
I'm like, we're right, But like

711
01:00:14.559 --> 01:00:20.400
I said that, my first instinct
is to explain things away and because it

712
01:00:20.400 --> 01:00:24.039
didn't have the volume that the one
I had heard several times. I just

713
01:00:24.280 --> 01:00:28.519
thought, maybe hopefully it was somebody, because this stuff scares me a little

714
01:00:28.519 --> 01:00:34.079
bit. I'm not going to be
out in a tent. I talked to

715
01:00:34.119 --> 01:00:37.239
a guy I got a new job. There was a guy. One was

716
01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:40.719
from Minnesota and the other guy we're
in training, and the other one from

717
01:00:40.960 --> 01:00:45.960
California. I didn't bring anything up. I noticed the one guy had a

718
01:00:45.960 --> 01:00:50.159
Sasquatch hat on. He was from
Wisconsin. And the guy from California said,

719
01:00:50.159 --> 01:00:52.800
oh, you you believe in sasquatch. He said, oh yeah,

720
01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:55.840
we find a track away in the
snow one time. That was just unbelievable.

721
01:00:57.159 --> 01:01:01.400
And of course here I go.
My head's turning. And this guy

722
01:01:01.440 --> 01:01:06.000
said, I want to walk into
my camp one night up close to the

723
01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:14.239
Sarah Nevada's. He started naming uh
Clacamus River and Humboldt County and all this

724
01:01:14.280 --> 01:01:16.400
stuff, and I'm and I just
keep leaving. I said, Hi,

725
01:01:16.559 --> 01:01:20.639
nice to meet you. My name
is right. So I knew I could

726
01:01:20.639 --> 01:01:24.360
talk to these guys or just learned, and that's some amazing stories. He

727
01:01:24.400 --> 01:01:28.840
said he didn't see it because he
scared him. He stayed in the tent,

728
01:01:29.400 --> 01:01:36.239
but I guess he had moonlight and
maybe smells and sounds, and all

729
01:01:36.280 --> 01:01:38.599
of his friends, he said,
had experiences back in the day. So

730
01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:46.280
it's been a it's been a whirlwind. Jeremiah is once I told my story

731
01:01:47.599 --> 01:01:53.079
the amount of stories that I have
now, and I'm telling you there are

732
01:01:53.119 --> 01:02:00.559
some people that I don't know,
but there are some that I've known them

733
01:02:00.559 --> 01:02:05.599
all my life. And some of
them haven't watched the TV shows or listen

734
01:02:05.679 --> 01:02:08.280
to the podcast. There's one,
the one I said, I can't say

735
01:02:08.320 --> 01:02:13.679
a name, so he sends me
a message and a messenger after that first

736
01:02:13.719 --> 01:02:20.880
show, I did thank you for
explaining things the way you did, because

737
01:02:20.920 --> 01:02:23.400
now what happened to me made sense. But I can't let it get out

738
01:02:23.440 --> 01:02:28.519
because of my job. I'm like, can you call me? So we

739
01:02:28.559 --> 01:02:30.519
talked on the phone for a while. He said he was on his porch

740
01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:37.039
and this is not far from me. This is actually close to some activity

741
01:02:37.079 --> 01:02:40.719
that's been going on for since the
seventies. This is the same area maybe

742
01:02:43.079 --> 01:02:49.599
ten mile circle right. He said
that on his porch all night, rural

743
01:02:49.639 --> 01:02:53.320
area. His dog was there out
there. He said it sounded He said

744
01:02:53.360 --> 01:02:57.480
he heard a scream and it sounded
like a mixture between a woman and an

745
01:02:57.480 --> 01:03:02.880
elephant. It's the whey he in
his mind. And he said his dog

746
01:03:05.480 --> 01:03:08.360
Peede on the porch ran to the
door and he was trying to get in

747
01:03:08.440 --> 01:03:10.880
the door, and the dog was
trying to get in the door. He

748
01:03:10.920 --> 01:03:16.440
said, he almost ped the porch
too, and he wondering what it was.

749
01:03:16.519 --> 01:03:19.960
He said, but here he's the
thing. He said, when you

750
01:03:19.960 --> 01:03:23.400
said you felt that screen, I
felt it too. And he said,

751
01:03:23.519 --> 01:03:29.079
and you and it made sense when
you said it. I said, let

752
01:03:29.079 --> 01:03:32.519
me ask you some questions. I
said, do you watch bigfoot shows?

753
01:03:32.599 --> 01:03:37.360
No? You listen to podcasts?
No? I don't. He said,

754
01:03:37.360 --> 01:03:39.679
I don't know any of this stuff. I don't know. He said,

755
01:03:39.679 --> 01:03:45.360
but when you said this or that, it made sense. So I kept

756
01:03:45.400 --> 01:03:49.400
listening. Then he said. Two
weeks later, it was opening a gun

757
01:03:49.440 --> 01:03:54.079
season, deer season. Here they've
got a little money and so there where

758
01:03:54.079 --> 01:03:58.519
I might have being a tree stander
in a fold out seat Ozark Trail from

759
01:03:58.559 --> 01:04:03.679
Walmart. They've got these nice houses
with plexi glass and it's almost too nice.

760
01:04:04.320 --> 01:04:10.000
And I know exactly what he's talking
about. And he said, he

761
01:04:10.039 --> 01:04:13.760
said, get my four wheeler back
there and hide it. And then I

762
01:04:13.920 --> 01:04:17.360
walk across the field forty five minutes
before daylight, he said. And this

763
01:04:17.519 --> 01:04:20.239
was two weeks after I heard that
sound. He said. I go in,

764
01:04:20.360 --> 01:04:24.199
I get inside. I locked the
door, a little flimsy door,

765
01:04:24.239 --> 01:04:30.639
but it locked. And he said, there's a hickory tree and his dad,

766
01:04:30.760 --> 01:04:33.440
I don't forget too much away.
His dad taught me how to smoke

767
01:04:34.079 --> 01:04:38.440
meat, and we did it the
old way, back in back then,

768
01:04:38.519 --> 01:04:43.199
and so they always had a lot
of hickory cut and had huge smokers.

769
01:04:43.679 --> 01:04:45.360
And he said, there's this one
hickory tree. He said, I always

770
01:04:45.559 --> 01:04:48.159
look at it get daylight and I
said, oh, my daddy, don't

771
01:04:48.159 --> 01:04:50.440
cut that down. This is such
an awesome tree. And he said,

772
01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:55.400
I'm sitting there. He said,
it's about thirty minutes or so before daylight,

773
01:04:56.559 --> 01:05:01.880
and I hear some grunting and growling, and and it sounded like he

774
01:05:01.880 --> 01:05:04.760
said, it sounded like something very
large was upset. He said. It

775
01:05:04.840 --> 01:05:09.679
wasn't a bull, it wasn't a
cow. It had this he said,

776
01:05:09.679 --> 01:05:13.400
I just knew it wasn't, but
he said that it was massive, he

777
01:05:13.440 --> 01:05:15.079
said, And it was in the
fence row and it was close to the

778
01:05:15.159 --> 01:05:18.960
hickory trees near as I could tell, he said. So he was so

779
01:05:19.079 --> 01:05:24.280
scared that he took his chair and
put it up against the door. He

780
01:05:24.280 --> 01:05:28.639
said, what I figured was it
was dark, and I didn't. He

781
01:05:28.679 --> 01:05:30.199
said, if it came in on
me, whatever it was, I would

782
01:05:30.199 --> 01:05:33.960
fill the door moving and then I
could maybe get a shot off or whatever.

783
01:05:34.039 --> 01:05:38.719
He said, I was scared to
death, he said, fifteen minutes

784
01:05:38.760 --> 01:05:43.679
before daylight, he still hearing some
of the noises, not as much,

785
01:05:44.239 --> 01:05:47.639
but it was maybe letting him know
that it was still there. And then

786
01:05:47.679 --> 01:05:56.800
he heard a loud crash snap,
and didn't know what it was, and

787
01:05:56.960 --> 01:06:01.440
heard another noise and then after that
went quiet. So it's getting close to

788
01:06:02.079 --> 01:06:08.360
daylight. It's getting close to something, right, So he said he didn't

789
01:06:08.360 --> 01:06:09.880
know what to do. He said
he was going to get to his four

790
01:06:09.920 --> 01:06:12.480
whelers quick as possible, but he
wanted to get all the way daylight,

791
01:06:12.920 --> 01:06:16.679
and he wanted to make sure whatever
it wasn't in there. And he said,

792
01:06:16.679 --> 01:06:20.360
when it got where he could see, he said, there's a branch,

793
01:06:20.519 --> 01:06:27.480
a big branch about ten foot up. He said it was broken fresh

794
01:06:27.480 --> 01:06:33.199
snout. You know how bright fresh
wood is and he's and so his first

795
01:06:33.199 --> 01:06:38.559
instinct was like, I wonder when
that happened. And then he and he

796
01:06:38.639 --> 01:06:42.920
had just walked from his at an
angle, from his four wheeler to this

797
01:06:43.000 --> 01:06:46.159
thing through the field and he looks
over he'said twenty yards out in the field,

798
01:06:46.159 --> 01:06:50.559
that branch is thrown out into the
field. And he said, Roger,

799
01:06:50.920 --> 01:06:54.360
that was five years ago, and
I haven't been hunting since, and

800
01:06:54.400 --> 01:07:01.239
I'm not going back. So how
do you how do you explain once again,

801
01:07:01.360 --> 01:07:04.079
for something to break something like that, it has to have thumbs and

802
01:07:04.119 --> 01:07:11.119
it has to be big. I
feel like I'm just I feel like I'm

803
01:07:11.159 --> 01:07:17.360
gushing here, but I've been inundated
with stories over the past I was three

804
01:07:17.440 --> 01:07:21.320
three months maybe, and it got
to the point where it felt like I

805
01:07:21.440 --> 01:07:26.480
was filling up, and I do
want to listen. And I would see

806
01:07:26.480 --> 01:07:30.880
you share your podcast on Twitter or
somewhere, and I'll be like, I

807
01:07:30.880 --> 01:07:31.639
got to listen to that. I'm
going to share it, so I'll go

808
01:07:31.679 --> 01:07:35.800
back and listen to it. But
there was a point where even I had

809
01:07:35.800 --> 01:07:41.320
to take a break with Mike helping
co host that showed because there was so

810
01:07:41.519 --> 01:07:46.360
much information and I'm trying to filter
through what could be real and what's not.

811
01:07:47.360 --> 01:07:54.320
And I got full. I got
I got just wayed down with it,

812
01:07:55.199 --> 01:07:59.159
and then I got sick and I
got the rest. It's a bad

813
01:07:59.239 --> 01:08:02.400
way to get the rest, but
I slept a lot, and after I

814
01:08:02.480 --> 01:08:10.000
got over that, I'm refreshed.
And I think I'll give some people advice

815
01:08:10.039 --> 01:08:13.519
that's getting into this. Go the
pace, go to your own pace,

816
01:08:13.599 --> 01:08:19.359
and don't try to get too much
because there are a lot of theories.

817
01:08:20.239 --> 01:08:26.560
And then there are a lot of
people that are or this side and they

818
01:08:26.600 --> 01:08:31.199
don't get upset if you disagree with
them. And some of it is so

819
01:08:33.319 --> 01:08:38.920
unreal. But like I said,
I'm on a podcast with Jeremiah and I'm

820
01:08:38.920 --> 01:08:42.319
telling them about this stuff. And
I have even talked about the ghost and

821
01:08:42.359 --> 01:08:45.039
the orbs and all this stuff that
I've seen in the past, and it

822
01:08:45.079 --> 01:08:48.319
makes me that's why it makes me
think that some of it may be tied

823
01:08:48.359 --> 01:08:58.159
together and it maybe some of us
are without trying more openness things happening.

824
01:09:00.079 --> 01:09:03.359
I don't know. Here's the theory
I have now. The scientist guys,

825
01:09:03.600 --> 01:09:10.079
I get them. But there's some
people that think about this. I don't

826
01:09:10.079 --> 01:09:13.520
know if and people that are listening, think about this. There are people

827
01:09:13.560 --> 01:09:15.800
that mean no harm. If there
is a big foot, they don't want

828
01:09:15.800 --> 01:09:17.800
it to be killed. They don't
want it to be any harm. They

829
01:09:17.880 --> 01:09:24.840
just want to understand a lot of
those people seem to have experiences where you

830
01:09:24.880 --> 01:09:30.479
have I know people that are mean
and would shoot one at heartbeat, and

831
01:09:30.520 --> 01:09:36.800
they hardly ever have any of those
experiences. So if they can communicate or

832
01:09:36.920 --> 01:09:40.920
know your feelings or know your thoughts
or whatever, then they would stay away

833
01:09:40.920 --> 01:09:44.199
from that person, I would think. And those are the people are like,

834
01:09:44.279 --> 01:09:46.439
oh, you're full of it,
and virus are one? I would

835
01:09:47.399 --> 01:09:53.800
they tell it? They think they
would anyway, But I've even Mike's encountered

836
01:09:54.840 --> 01:09:58.960
he had the safety off, the
cross hairs on his nose and were scared,

837
01:09:59.039 --> 01:10:02.279
and he said he was about to
pull the trigger, and there was

838
01:10:02.279 --> 01:10:12.119
too much emotion and more human he
said it it turned his head sideways.

839
01:10:12.279 --> 01:10:15.239
You better don't do it. Don't
do it, and he said in this

840
01:10:15.760 --> 01:10:23.039
Mike's former military, and he was
scared, and he said, I felt

841
01:10:23.039 --> 01:10:27.640
like if I pulled that trigger,
I would partially be killing the human.

842
01:10:28.079 --> 01:10:30.479
And then he said, and I
partially was scared that if I decided to

843
01:10:30.520 --> 01:10:34.680
pull the trigger, I might not
make it out of the woods. So

844
01:10:35.880 --> 01:10:41.399
what he struggles with it, But
he's a good guy. He's trying to

845
01:10:41.880 --> 01:10:45.600
he's doing his show and he's trying
to get people on so he can understand.

846
01:10:45.039 --> 01:10:49.159
And I think that's I think that's
where a lot of us come from,

847
01:10:49.920 --> 01:10:55.560
as we have had experiences and we
start digging. Like the guy in

848
01:10:55.600 --> 01:10:58.319
the jeep, his son told me, he said, ever since that happened,

849
01:10:58.319 --> 01:11:01.319
now he's been everything. He can
watch, everything, he can read.

850
01:11:01.880 --> 01:11:05.159
He talks about it all the time, and and it's not driving him

851
01:11:05.159 --> 01:11:11.159
crazy. It's just he wants to
understand, you know how. We have

852
01:11:11.279 --> 01:11:17.560
questions, like one of the one
of the main questions I have. It's

853
01:11:17.560 --> 01:11:23.079
not paranormals not, it's like,
how do they take in enough protein?

854
01:11:25.720 --> 01:11:30.319
Be a lot of critters in one
area to support those guys? Yeah,

855
01:11:30.359 --> 01:11:36.760
it's wild, Yeah, and so
they almost have to be what omnivores exactly?

856
01:11:36.920 --> 01:11:41.079
Protein? And then you get some
people talk about the woo part of

857
01:11:41.119 --> 01:11:47.600
it where their energy and they can
come through portals and who knows, it's

858
01:11:47.640 --> 01:11:50.800
a lot. It's a lot to
take in. It's a lot, and

859
01:11:50.840 --> 01:11:55.920
you're smart in what you said earlier, where it's like there's so much in

860
01:11:56.000 --> 01:12:00.399
this field right now that you have
to pace yourself and you it is okay

861
01:12:00.479 --> 01:12:04.680
to step away for a bit if
you find yourself being overwhelmed that it's this

862
01:12:04.840 --> 01:12:11.359
smart thing to do. It's not
smart when you're not aware that needs to

863
01:12:11.399 --> 01:12:15.199
be done. But I do have
a few questions for you that have come

864
01:12:15.319 --> 01:12:19.560
up while you've been talking the different
the different situations you've had. Have you

865
01:12:19.720 --> 01:12:24.880
noticed that these have all taken place
in one county except for the moment.

866
01:12:25.159 --> 01:12:30.640
The Yes, there's one that's close
to another county, depending on what here

867
01:12:30.720 --> 01:12:33.479
you're own. But yeah, the
Marshall County, Tennessee. I'll go ahead

868
01:12:34.039 --> 01:12:41.760
and say it, because I've got
five or six people right now that that

869
01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:45.840
I'm in contact with. Oh,
there's probably a dozen that's actually told me,

870
01:12:46.439 --> 01:12:51.199
but there's about half a dozen that
that we communicate about things that have

871
01:12:51.319 --> 01:12:58.399
happened in the past, and and
we talk about people that we all we've

872
01:12:58.399 --> 01:13:03.159
all known that things have happened to
and then you'll forget things. I have

873
01:13:03.439 --> 01:13:06.079
a very good friend. He used
to hang around him. He's little older

874
01:13:06.079 --> 01:13:10.800
than me. Now he's one of
those macho guys. He's not going to

875
01:13:10.840 --> 01:13:15.239
say anything to make himself look bad
or crazy. His dad has passed away,

876
01:13:15.600 --> 01:13:21.720
but he I would believe anything to
come out of his mouth just because

877
01:13:21.760 --> 01:13:28.600
of the type of person he was. And he wasn't kin to me,

878
01:13:28.800 --> 01:13:34.239
but he gave me advice. He
was just no frills country guy that had

879
01:13:34.640 --> 01:13:40.239
great listening skills. He would listen
to you if he thought he needed to

880
01:13:40.279 --> 01:13:45.000
say something, he would if he
wouldn't butt into your business. And he

881
01:13:45.119 --> 01:13:53.079
was just a good man. And
so when Matt told me the story,

882
01:13:53.720 --> 01:14:00.399
I was about ninety percent on.
But then when Eddie his dad, he

883
01:14:00.479 --> 01:14:02.920
heard all of it and he saw
Mack running and he's never seen him that

884
01:14:02.960 --> 01:14:06.720
scared in his life. He was
about thirteen or fourteen. But what happened

885
01:14:06.720 --> 01:14:12.760
in that situation Mack hunting the fence
line up behind their house, and he

886
01:14:12.800 --> 01:14:15.760
had a single shot twenty gauge.
He hunted everything with it back then,

887
01:14:15.279 --> 01:14:19.159
and he would crawl up, he
climb up in this hatberry tree and get

888
01:14:19.159 --> 01:14:25.800
out on this limb and sit there. And he said he saw some movement

889
01:14:25.840 --> 01:14:29.640
coming along the woods line, which
there's a little grass out there in the

890
01:14:29.640 --> 01:14:32.640
field. It wasn't a big field. And first thing anythink was dear come

891
01:14:32.680 --> 01:14:39.800
in turkey something, And he said, and that's another thing. People.

892
01:14:41.199 --> 01:14:45.039
There's some people that can't get out, and I understand that, and they

893
01:14:45.079 --> 01:14:47.880
want to know things. So this
is why I put little tidbits in like

894
01:14:47.920 --> 01:14:51.199
this. People that have been out
in the woods, have been around farm

895
01:14:51.239 --> 01:14:57.399
animals, or been around been out
even a zoo keeper or somebody that studies

896
01:14:57.399 --> 01:15:00.319
all that. They can see an
animal from from a long distance and tell

897
01:15:00.319 --> 01:15:03.840
you what it is by the way
it's moving, by the it's gate,

898
01:15:04.239 --> 01:15:11.560
by its bounce, in its smoothness. A cat ye back will bend certain

899
01:15:11.600 --> 01:15:15.079
ways. The coyoties of prance a
little bit, and they're lighter on their

900
01:15:15.079 --> 01:15:21.279
feet than a wolf. And it
just so you identify things pretty fast.

901
01:15:21.560 --> 01:15:27.439
He said. The first thing he
noticed was it was something about four and

902
01:15:27.479 --> 01:15:30.239
a half to five foot tall,
and it was moving, but it was

903
01:15:30.279 --> 01:15:35.359
doing this. He said, The
head was side to side and it was

904
01:15:35.640 --> 01:15:41.199
hunkered over and he what is that? Because now this guy, he's been

905
01:15:41.199 --> 01:15:43.680
around all these animals, and at
first he sees it, he don't know

906
01:15:43.680 --> 01:15:46.640
what it is. So he's trying
to identify. It's getting closer to him,

907
01:15:46.960 --> 01:15:51.359
but the wind is coming from behind
mac to a certain point up in

908
01:15:51.399 --> 01:15:56.880
the woods. This thing is coming
around and it hasn't got to that point

909
01:15:56.880 --> 01:16:00.760
where it could wind him yet.
And it's Folkston on the edge of the

910
01:16:00.800 --> 01:16:03.000
woods. And he said, then
he gets a good look at it as

911
01:16:03.039 --> 01:16:06.640
it gets closer. He said it
was four and a half five foot tall.

912
01:16:06.720 --> 01:16:11.079
He said, look like a monkey. He said the hair was clumped,

913
01:16:11.159 --> 01:16:16.199
greasy and clumped where in tuffs where
you could see skin under And he

914
01:16:16.279 --> 01:16:21.800
said, that's when he got really
scared. And so he got his gun

915
01:16:21.880 --> 01:16:25.279
up and read. But he wasn't
gonna make annoise. He's just gonna let

916
01:16:25.279 --> 01:16:30.119
it pass by. And that was
his instinct, just to stay still and

917
01:16:30.199 --> 01:16:32.880
let it go. He said.
When it got he said, I knew

918
01:16:32.920 --> 01:16:38.079
the wind was behind me, and
I'm thought, oh no. And he

919
01:16:38.119 --> 01:16:40.800
said it got to that point and
it threw its nose up in the air,

920
01:16:41.520 --> 01:16:44.159
sniffed a few times, and he
said when it turned and looked,

921
01:16:44.199 --> 01:16:46.760
it locked eyes with him, and
it showed its teeth. And now back

922
01:16:46.760 --> 01:16:49.640
then I didn't know whether to ask
if it had came out under whatever.

923
01:16:50.159 --> 01:16:55.680
I'm just listening to the story,
So he said, it. It snarled,

924
01:16:56.199 --> 01:16:59.560
and it like it made it mad, and it said it came to

925
01:16:59.640 --> 01:17:03.239
him and it was making some noises. I don't remember what noises he said

926
01:17:03.239 --> 01:17:08.720
it made. But he said,
I'm thinking, can I get down on

927
01:17:08.800 --> 01:17:15.079
this tree and get home before this? We're talking forty yards and he made

928
01:17:15.079 --> 01:17:20.479
the decision that he could. Now
what happens next, he said he felt

929
01:17:20.479 --> 01:17:25.399
bad about it, but he was
forced into it, he thought, he

930
01:17:25.399 --> 01:17:28.199
said. He pulled the gun up
and he put it on the chest and

931
01:17:28.279 --> 01:17:32.600
squeezed the trigger and he heard it
thump. He said, it started rolling.

932
01:17:32.680 --> 01:17:35.680
He grabbed his chest, started screaming
and rolling. He said it sounded

933
01:17:35.720 --> 01:17:40.640
like a monkey. Now it could
have been. I don't know what it

934
01:17:40.760 --> 01:17:43.479
was. But he got down.
He's running. Now. He's built like

935
01:17:43.520 --> 01:17:46.520
me. I'm a bigger guy.
One of us running. Don't ask any

936
01:17:46.600 --> 01:17:54.560
questions, try to beat us.
But so he's running, and he said,

937
01:17:54.560 --> 01:17:57.720
he takes a single shot, puts
one in it, and throws it

938
01:17:57.720 --> 01:18:01.600
over his back and fire as reckless
sleep back that way, puts another one

939
01:18:01.600 --> 01:18:06.359
in it. Yeah, And so
he gets to the fence. He's trying

940
01:18:06.359 --> 01:18:10.840
to get his fat tail over the
fence and his Daddy's what is going on?

941
01:18:11.000 --> 01:18:14.760
He said, I just shot the
monky and he said, you could

942
01:18:14.760 --> 01:18:16.640
hear it screaming. Eddie said,
I could hear it screaming. It's just

943
01:18:16.720 --> 01:18:19.520
right behind the house. And he
said, look, boy, let's get

944
01:18:19.520 --> 01:18:24.239
in the house. And they didn't. They never went up there to see.

945
01:18:24.840 --> 01:18:32.479
Now, that's that's not as a
crow flies three miles from where I

946
01:18:32.520 --> 01:18:36.159
saw mine, but it was a
lot bigger. But going back to that

947
01:18:36.239 --> 01:18:45.520
sighting, there was a limb that
came out. It came out over the

948
01:18:45.560 --> 01:18:48.920
field and drooped down and curved back
up. This thing walked. When it

949
01:18:49.000 --> 01:18:53.239
stopped, it was under this right. So I told my dad, I

950
01:18:53.239 --> 01:18:56.680
said, Daddy was almost as tall
as that limb. I said it was

951
01:18:56.720 --> 01:19:00.920
about six eight inches under that limb
off of the head was that couldn't have

952
01:19:00.920 --> 01:19:04.600
been Beaufer. He said, there's
no way. You know how far up

953
01:19:04.640 --> 01:19:08.199
that is. I said, yeah, I do. I saw. We

954
01:19:08.239 --> 01:19:12.079
went up there with the tape measure
and whatever it was had to be around

955
01:19:12.119 --> 01:19:16.359
seven and a half foot talk.
So we did get a measurement and he

956
01:19:16.479 --> 01:19:19.920
was questioning, he said, but
he kept saying there's no way, there's

957
01:19:19.920 --> 01:19:25.399
no way, And like I said, I've seen him walk and he was

958
01:19:25.439 --> 01:19:29.399
five eight ish, and I knew
what he looked like up there, and

959
01:19:29.439 --> 01:19:33.520
this thing would have broke him an
a half if But anyway, I wish,

960
01:19:33.840 --> 01:19:40.119
God, I wish I had known. Maybe I don't, but I

961
01:19:40.159 --> 01:19:43.159
wished I had known what to look
for. I wished I had a known.

962
01:19:43.600 --> 01:19:46.159
Like the other night, we had
a quiet night. What there wasn't

963
01:19:46.159 --> 01:19:49.600
a lot going on. We had
some bard owls back and forth. And

964
01:19:49.640 --> 01:19:57.000
some people say sometimes they get mimicked
by whatever I have. We can do

965
01:19:57.079 --> 01:20:00.439
calls like that with our mouths,
and we'll sometimes when he gets quiet,

966
01:20:00.920 --> 01:20:03.760
we'll start and we'll get them active, just to get something going on.

967
01:20:04.560 --> 01:20:09.640
But then you hear some strange stuff, like a barred out that's on the

968
01:20:09.640 --> 01:20:14.279
ground. You know, it doesn't
sound exactly like a bird, but I

969
01:20:14.319 --> 01:20:18.119
don't know. But there you go. You put all the things that happened

970
01:20:18.439 --> 01:20:23.800
together and it makes a little more
sense that it could be something like that.

971
01:20:23.920 --> 01:20:30.239
But so I did. I realized
that I haven't done anything to get

972
01:20:30.279 --> 01:20:34.640
any responses, and I said,
hey, so let's go back. So

973
01:20:34.840 --> 01:20:43.560
we had frogs making their noises,
we had whipper wheel or whatever bird it

974
01:20:43.680 --> 01:20:48.039
was going nuts. We had some
sounds going on and just listening and then

975
01:20:48.319 --> 01:20:54.680
it got quiet, just you know. It happened sometimes when a predator comes

976
01:20:54.720 --> 01:20:59.279
in. It could have been cowgies, whatever, mountain lions, whatever,

977
01:21:00.159 --> 01:21:02.840
just get quiet. But I wasn't
really thinking that. And like I said,

978
01:21:02.880 --> 01:21:05.319
I don't know what this was,
but I'm like, you know what,

979
01:21:05.319 --> 01:21:08.640
this be a good time to I
told my wife. I said,

980
01:21:08.640 --> 01:21:13.239
I'm I'm gonna do three clouds out
the window and let's listen in her hearing.

981
01:21:13.680 --> 01:21:16.039
I have to be careful. I
can't mumble under my breath because she

982
01:21:16.640 --> 01:21:24.840
can hear birds breaking seeds in her
bird feeder, and she's going to have

983
01:21:25.039 --> 01:21:29.239
with you if you need a warning. But so I did. I did

984
01:21:29.279 --> 01:21:38.880
three loud clouds and quit. I
didn't hear anything, and she she turned

985
01:21:39.319 --> 01:21:43.600
and she said, you just got
to clap back over here. I said,

986
01:21:43.600 --> 01:21:46.960
wait a minute, hand cloud?
She said, yeah, yeah.

987
01:21:47.159 --> 01:21:54.920
How many she did was just one? And I don't know, I know,

988
01:21:55.239 --> 01:22:00.359
I do know that there's nobody out
there, and if she tells me

989
01:22:00.399 --> 01:22:04.720
it was a handcloup, I'm gonna
go with her hearing. But after that

990
01:22:04.880 --> 01:22:11.720
happened, there was some strange sounds
that she couldn't identify, but it wasn't

991
01:22:11.760 --> 01:22:15.600
a lot. But we say that's
not a lot because we've had so much

992
01:22:15.640 --> 01:22:19.920
happened at times that you just get
a response back. I don't know what

993
01:22:19.960 --> 01:22:23.359
that could be. I don't know
what could clap other than a person.

994
01:22:23.760 --> 01:22:29.760
But anyway, Yeah, and there's
so much more. I don't I could

995
01:22:29.760 --> 01:22:34.760
go on. Roger Marshall County is
having some things go on, that's for

996
01:22:34.880 --> 01:22:42.119
sure. Yeah, I do want
to ask real quick. I keep coming

997
01:22:42.199 --> 01:22:46.000
back in my mind. We were
talking about how your son was hunting and

998
01:22:46.079 --> 01:22:50.000
he heard what he thought was a
monkey sound in the woods. Have you

999
01:22:50.039 --> 01:22:57.520
guys been ever been back to that
area? Yes, I've got a video.

1000
01:22:57.600 --> 01:23:00.119
I've got that. My YouTube page
is not a whole Oh okay,

1001
01:23:00.159 --> 01:23:05.359
cool, it's not. And we
took we did a walk about and it

1002
01:23:05.439 --> 01:23:10.079
takes a while because of the ridges, and you know, I'm not an

1003
01:23:10.119 --> 01:23:15.800
athlete, so we have to take
time, and we went behind. This

1004
01:23:15.960 --> 01:23:23.439
was just I'm going to say this
was two two and a half months ago

1005
01:23:23.600 --> 01:23:27.680
because after I had done I had
told my story and it just a couple

1006
01:23:27.720 --> 01:23:30.199
of weeks in. I thought it'd
be fun to get some video and show

1007
01:23:30.239 --> 01:23:33.680
people work where we were at.
So I said, here's what we want

1008
01:23:33.680 --> 01:23:35.880
to do. I said, First
of all, we're not going to be

1009
01:23:35.920 --> 01:23:40.520
quiet because I don't want to slip
up on anything. I want everything to

1010
01:23:40.560 --> 01:23:45.439
know we're here. The second thing, I want to go behind that clump

1011
01:23:45.560 --> 01:23:50.680
of cedar trees to where the rock
came from, to see how something could

1012
01:23:50.680 --> 01:23:54.840
have got gotten away or hid from
us, or where it could have been

1013
01:23:54.920 --> 01:24:01.319
standing. And another thing, I
said, where you heard He said it

1014
01:24:01.359 --> 01:24:06.800
was like a monkey gorilla. He
said it was a classic build up,

1015
01:24:06.840 --> 01:24:13.680
and the said and whatever. And
so I said, we're going to go

1016
01:24:13.720 --> 01:24:16.960
back on top of that ridge and
we're gonna look over and see what's there.

1017
01:24:17.680 --> 01:24:20.920
And he's got a Yeah, I'm
fifty two. I don't I'm not

1018
01:24:23.079 --> 01:24:27.800
totally out of the tech stuff.
He draws them this app up. It

1019
01:24:27.840 --> 01:24:30.439
tells exactly where we're at, who
owns what, and where the houses are.

1020
01:24:30.640 --> 01:24:32.279
I bet it's on X And I'm
like, I use that too.

1021
01:24:32.319 --> 01:24:38.680
It's good. It is. It
is as far as something is and who's

1022
01:24:38.800 --> 01:24:44.520
and what's scary is I believe it
has the owner's phone number here. It's

1023
01:24:44.800 --> 01:24:48.039
pretty intense. Yeah, it's intense. So we Yeah, we did go

1024
01:24:48.600 --> 01:24:54.159
back there and we looked off the
ridge to where it could have been,

1025
01:24:55.279 --> 01:24:59.239
and as far as we could see, you see a spec of white here

1026
01:24:59.439 --> 01:25:04.600
there houses just sparsely through this valley, and then another ridge way over there

1027
01:25:04.680 --> 01:25:14.159
and just nothing, just nothing,
and behind the cedar trees. I don't

1028
01:25:14.199 --> 01:25:18.920
see how whatever it was it had
to stay put. I don't see how

1029
01:25:19.039 --> 01:25:25.279
with the terrain and the leaves,
and I think it would have exposed itself.

1030
01:25:25.680 --> 01:25:28.479
And then maybe that's why it threw
a rock at us. It was

1031
01:25:28.680 --> 01:25:32.039
last resort. We were getting close, and if we had walked fifteen more

1032
01:25:32.119 --> 01:25:36.680
yard or twenty more yard, we
might have seen something we might not want

1033
01:25:36.680 --> 01:25:42.720
it to do. But so maybe
we pressured it to do that, to

1034
01:25:42.760 --> 01:25:47.560
have that response without knowing. So
it would have had to It would have

1035
01:25:47.560 --> 01:25:53.199
had a pretty long run up the
hill or anybody that was back there,

1036
01:25:53.239 --> 01:25:56.760
so it didn't have an escape route. So that's what I was telling Peyton.

1037
01:25:56.800 --> 01:25:59.920
I'm like, we may have pressured
it into doing that. And then

1038
01:26:00.039 --> 01:26:02.359
and but once you get up on
top of the ridge, you can be

1039
01:26:03.800 --> 01:26:08.960
in some of these hollows really fast. You know, you could get some

1040
01:26:09.000 --> 01:26:13.800
distance between you. If it was
if it was a person, especially like

1041
01:26:13.880 --> 01:26:15.960
deer. We know that we know
how they do, so it makes it

1042
01:26:16.079 --> 01:26:24.319
just makes sense that any animal would
use the ridges in the same way.

1043
01:26:25.039 --> 01:26:33.079
He still goes by himself. Sometimes
it's just it worries me, h,

1044
01:26:36.399 --> 01:26:46.880
even though I'm confident that he'll do
the right thing and he's learning that you

1045
01:26:46.920 --> 01:26:53.239
don't just shoot first. We had
that scary We had that scary thing happen.

1046
01:26:53.840 --> 01:26:56.600
And when I started, I said, clear your mind. He actually

1047
01:26:56.640 --> 01:27:01.119
set his rifle down. I didn't
tell him to. He just some reason

1048
01:27:01.520 --> 01:27:08.880
he set it down and did his
hands like this, And I guess we're

1049
01:27:08.920 --> 01:27:15.399
so in tuned. But anyway,
while here he's heard some strange noises and

1050
01:27:15.439 --> 01:27:17.199
stuff. But like I said,
we talked about it and said, I

1051
01:27:17.239 --> 01:27:20.119
said, have you ever felt threatened? He said no. And Kevin,

1052
01:27:20.199 --> 01:27:25.199
my buddy that saw the one trying
to get the calve, he made a

1053
01:27:25.199 --> 01:27:30.159
comment, it's wrong true. Somebody
asked him on the show. They're like,

1054
01:27:31.279 --> 01:27:34.279
or did it keep you from going
hunting? Did it keep you from

1055
01:27:34.319 --> 01:27:38.880
going fishing? Did it scare you? Did it? He said, He's

1056
01:27:38.920 --> 01:27:42.560
just he's more country than I am. If you can believe that, he

1057
01:27:42.600 --> 01:27:47.439
said way I figured it. If
he's there, what I saw is he's

1058
01:27:47.479 --> 01:27:51.640
always been there, and he's never
bothered me before. Of course he's saying

1059
01:27:51.680 --> 01:27:57.079
he because we all think bigfoot.
And he said, so, I don't

1060
01:27:57.159 --> 01:28:00.960
let it bother me because if he
wanted to get me, he could have

1061
01:28:00.000 --> 01:28:03.000
got me that day because I was
right there. Sure, so you know,

1062
01:28:03.399 --> 01:28:06.800
and that's comforting. Now you get
to talking to some of these people

1063
01:28:06.880 --> 01:28:10.760
with the dog men and stuff like, then you get on a totally different

1064
01:28:11.600 --> 01:28:15.840
that settle up partners when you start
and yeah, I mean you can go

1065
01:28:15.880 --> 01:28:18.880
down, you can go far down
the road. Roger, you're aware of

1066
01:28:18.880 --> 01:28:25.640
that. It's not just bigfoot.
But but man, this has been a

1067
01:28:26.319 --> 01:28:30.720
enjoyable chat. And you guys got
some stuff going on down in Marshall County

1068
01:28:30.760 --> 01:28:38.760
County, Tennessee. And I'm definitely
gonna be keeping up to date with you.

1069
01:28:39.640 --> 01:28:44.039
Roger, how can do you mind
sharing a few taking a few minutes

1070
01:28:44.039 --> 01:28:46.920
to share how people can keep up
to date with what you got going on.

1071
01:28:47.079 --> 01:28:50.560
Also, if they're like, man, I've got something that happened in

1072
01:28:50.600 --> 01:28:54.760
Marshall County, Tennessee, how can
they get in touch with you? It

1073
01:28:54.800 --> 01:28:57.560
sounds like they need to let you
know. Well, I set up an

1074
01:28:57.560 --> 01:29:00.600
email like all of us do.
Yeah, you want to keep it separate

1075
01:29:00.640 --> 01:29:09.119
from your other your business. But
it's squatching hollered. That's without a G

1076
01:29:09.880 --> 01:29:14.880
and that's l E R. And
that's at gmail dot com. I wanted

1077
01:29:15.079 --> 01:29:20.399
something to be memorable and so that
squatching Holler could be anywhere. So yeah,

1078
01:29:20.399 --> 01:29:26.239
if you have anything, I'd be
glad to listen. If you're in

1079
01:29:26.279 --> 01:29:30.279
this area. Even we're not far
from More County, which is where Jack

1080
01:29:30.359 --> 01:29:36.479
Daniels is. There are ridges when
you can get on these ridges and go

1081
01:29:36.680 --> 01:29:44.399
forever, and people like Davy is
it Davy Crockett? Yeah, Davy Crockett

1082
01:29:44.479 --> 01:29:47.399
is just over not far from here
where he lived on Bean Creek. And

1083
01:29:47.560 --> 01:29:51.279
there's a lot of history in this
area, and you know a lot of

1084
01:29:51.600 --> 01:29:57.680
Native American mounds that people really don't
know about. One of our favorite pastimes

1085
01:29:57.720 --> 01:30:00.279
when somebody would work the ground up
for tobacco everyone kids, it would rain

1086
01:30:00.720 --> 01:30:03.159
and we would go just fill our
pockets with our heads, you know.

1087
01:30:03.840 --> 01:30:10.119
And there's so much history in this
area. And I just did not know

1088
01:30:10.840 --> 01:30:17.159
that there was Bigfoot history. Yeah, like I said, I've probably I

1089
01:30:17.199 --> 01:30:20.479
could probably come up with a half
a dozen more pretty cool stories. But

1090
01:30:20.520 --> 01:30:24.560
I know we've been on a while, so he's probably write a pretty good

1091
01:30:24.560 --> 01:30:29.159
book too, Roger just saying,
but hey, I'll just put that out

1092
01:30:29.199 --> 01:30:32.279
there. But man, it's been
fun chatting with you. I'm I'm going

1093
01:30:32.359 --> 01:30:35.000
to be keeping tabs on you,
like I said, and I think we'll

1094
01:30:35.000 --> 01:30:39.560
be chatting some sometime in the future
too. It may be catching up with

1095
01:30:39.600 --> 01:30:43.520
you, all right. Yeah,
I really appreciate you, know, because

1096
01:30:43.560 --> 01:30:47.479
it helps anybody out there. If
Jeremiah contacts you want you to tell your

1097
01:30:47.520 --> 01:30:51.359
story, don't be bashful. We're
all here. We're here for you.

1098
01:30:53.199 --> 01:30:57.479
It helped, It helps you feel
better. And if you're in Marshall County,

1099
01:30:57.520 --> 01:31:01.840
Tennessee, or somewhere else, your
friends might not even hear this,

1100
01:31:02.039 --> 01:31:09.680
but help him out share it.
You share the podcast with everybody because you

1101
01:31:09.720 --> 01:31:12.640
never know what kind of stories you're
going to hear from your friends that they

1102
01:31:12.640 --> 01:31:15.279
were scared to tell you that.
Man, that's great. Thank you,

1103
01:31:15.359 --> 01:31:19.399
Roger. I appreciate that. And
man, keep doing good work, and

1104
01:31:19.920 --> 01:31:23.880
thank you so much for hanging out
tonight. Roger. Oh, it's been

1105
01:31:23.920 --> 01:31:29.119
fun. I'm just glad we finally
got to do it, but you I

1106
01:31:29.199 --> 01:31:33.159
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1112
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1113
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1114
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1115
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1117
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1118
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1126
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1137
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for listening. Her and I can
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1138
01:34:45.079 --> 01:34:48.479
stories. Maybe there's somebody else out
there listening it's too afraid to tell their

1139
01:34:48.520 --> 01:34:53.439
story. Maybe this will give them
the courage to come out. And now

1140
01:34:53.439 --> 01:34:57.199
I feel so bad about it.
Who cares what anybody's thinks. I know

1141
01:34:57.239 --> 01:35:16.279
what I saw, I know what's
out there that's all like it. Please

1142
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let people know, Please let them
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1143
01:35:21.079 --> 01:35:26.680
these things, you need to tell
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1144
01:35:26.800 --> 01:36:18.159
you, you know, shame on
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1149
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to be food trucks outside this year
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1158
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you won't I mean, the coolest
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1159
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1160
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1161
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