Chased by Bigfoot in Mollala, Oregon!

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1:35 How are you doing today, sir? I'm doing good. Perfect. We were talking a little bit in the pre show, but I'm excited to get right into this. So D I'm going to go ahead and pass the mic right over to you, and feel free to share with us what you experienced over the years when you're out there in Oregon. Okay, okay. Start out when I was about sixteen seventeen, I think. But this was in California, somewheres around Eureka, Humboldt, you know, Humboldt County. We were heading to Bakersfield and we were cutting off on one oh one, my brother in law, sister, and brother in law, and it was at night. And my nickname that they call me is Sonny, and so it was late at night when we were heading down the road and I I was asleep in the front seat. He was driving, and he stopped the car in the middle of the highway. There was nobody around, you know, and he's like, Sonny, Sonny. And I woke up and he's like, look at that. And the car was stopped and I looked over and then it was a clear moon night, you know, the full moon, and

3:06 it was setting up standing up kind of like on an embankment, and it walked down in front of the car, turned and did like a classic you know, bigfoot look at us, turned back around and just walked over and we can see it walk down an embankment and off, you know, up into the woods. And I'm like, uh. He was saying, well, let's go chase that thing, and I'm like, no, I'm not. I've never I've been in the woods, you know, since i was a kid, and I'm like, I've never seen anything like that. I was not gonna out to go chase that thing. And I never said anything to my dad. I never said anything to him or any any anybody about that because I wasn't for sure what I had just seen and passed forward to when we were in Oregon, my acts and family, uh, my daughter. We started camping there in Malala River Corridor that's in Marion County, uh in Oregon, and we started we went up there with some friends and we started,

4:37 you know, seeing like eyes and stuff glowing back at us and from the camp light, and I didn't know what it was. When we knew something was moving around us and that was more than just one and it kind of scared us. We were like, we didn't know what it was. And the brands of ours that we were with, they they started talking about later after we packed up. We packed up and laughed and they started telling us later about Bigfoot. And then we started seeing pictures and they started showing me pictures and stuff of Bigfoot.

5:21 And I got into that and I was like, you know these pictures, that's the same thing I saw there in California, you know, on that highway one oh one. I said, that's the same thing I saw. And so we just kept going up to that spot. That spot where we camped at there used to be like a ranger station there, and the ranger station was was down. All was was this foundation, but it was a big area out there, and we can put two or three campers and stuff out there. Are more intents and stuff.

6:08 So it was a pretty good sized area and we gone there so much that and we'd seen bigfoot around there that we did we called it the Bigfoot Camp and so we started kind of getting used to them, and then we we we found some other people that we started uh going out with and uh or he and ended up he ended up he was doing like a uh. We got into like a group to go out and research them and stuff, and so we would either go up to that camp or we've gone up to several different places. And there was one time we went camping just my family and the Bigfoot camp was uh, somebody else was in there. So we went down the road a little ways, which was about a mile down the road where the there's a bridge off to the side and there's a little spot over there, and all these spots were not in a designated campground and uh,

7:41 so we pulled off. There were just like pull off spots where loggers, you know, had logged and there was a landing that's and they were old, so you know, trees had grown up around them. And so there was a pretty good nice place camp and we were up their camping and my daughter I think she was like a couple of years old. She started throwing a fit and started screaming and crying and carrying on, and we were wanting to go take a walk, and when we stepped out onto the road, all of a sudden, I heard this scream, a scream that I never even heard before.

8:26 I didn't even hear them whenever we were watching them over there at the Bigfoot camp. I never even heard that scream, and so I figured that's what it was, and so I got my daughter settled down, and so then I thought, well, I'm going to try to imitate it. This was probably about nineteen ninety three, and I never even heard anybody else doing these screams like this before. And that's what I decided to do. I was going to imitate what that thing was doing because I kept screaming, and so I started imitating it. I'd screaming, I'd scream We went back and forth with screaming, and then pretty soon it stopped, and then we went ahead and went off and went on our walk and came back to the camp. And so then I started telling Ari and some of the friends that we were doing the group with that I was getting this thing to scream back with me, and so they started using me every time they go out into it. You know, we go out into a research we go out at night, and so they started using me to scream and I get them,

9:58 I get them to scream and get them to call back and we get some recording or he is he had taken some of the streams that we had had and he'd taken him up to I don't know, some college, and the person on that college had said it was one of the best vocals that he had heard. And so every time I'd go out, I'd scream and get you know, callbacks. And I believe it was in nineteen ninety four. My ex and I we went there to the camp. We just went during the day just for we had We had a couple of friends that were there at the Bigfoot camp, so we just went there for the day just to just to visit with them.

11:02 And so we go up there and we were talking and then the one guy chance he had been fashing and he caught a salmon and he had said he's had it in on ice in the ice chest, and he said something was trying to get in his truck because he had a big crew cab, a four door truck, and he was sleeping in the back seat, but he had that fishop there. He said something was trying to get in the truck, trying to open the door, and they were saying that they believed that could have been one there. So I went over to miss tree that I always screamed that because I did these streamings for a long time, and I realized, you got to find a spot that will echo and throw that scream out, and so that's what I did. I had a spot there at that camp that I could scream and throw that out. So that's what I did. I screamed. And this was probably about it was the end of summer, probably about September, and it was maybe five o'clock. It

12:33 wasn't quite it didn't go dark yet, but it was still light out and so there was still pretty pretty much light. It wasn't completely you know, it didn't go dark yet. So but anyway, I went over by the tree and I screamed, and I got this wanted to scream back, which I thought, well, you know, which I thought was kind of odd. Is I thought they only did this at night, you know, So I get this thing to scream back at me, and we kind of screamed back and forth toward one another, and then it just stopped. So I went back over, sat down at the campfire, and you know, talk with some my friends there, and then I thought, well, I wonder if that thing will start screaming again. I think that's like fifteen minutes past.

13:34 And I went back over the tree and started screaming, and this thing started screaming back. But I can tell it wasn't as high up. It sounded like it was like halfway down the mountain. This was on the opposite side of the road, up top of the hill a mountain up there, so it sounded like it was about halfway down. And I scream bit screamed. We did this for a little bit and then it just stopped, you know, maybe about three four screens and then it just stops. And so I went back over and I sat back down, started talking to my friends there at the campfire, and then I thought, okay, I'm going to go back over and I'm going to scream again. So I did. I went back over to the tree and I started screaming, and it started screaming, but this time it sounded like it was almost by the road. And then it quit screaming, and I went back over again, back by the campfire, and sat down for about another fifteen minutes, got up, went back over to the tree again, and I started screaming, but I didn't hear anything thing, so I just continue to stand there. And there was like where the camp's at,

15:07 there's like a little road kind of like like you know, a dirt road, that kind of old road that went around by the by the where there there was a ranger station, and off on the other side of that was it went kind of dropped down a little hill and an embankment. Big for society will be right back after these messages, and.

15:56 Uh so back off in that direction. And it never did this this time. It never did answer me back, but back off in that direction. I heard sound like a freight train come busting up through the woods. I mean, everything was just cracking and busting. And then it come up through that embankment and it got up on that little road up there, and I was standing by the tree. We were probably no more than, oh, I say, about fifty feet maybe twenty five feet. It wasn't very far, you know, between being it and they and I've had people say don't stare at them, you know, or don't stare in an animal, because when you do, a stare off in their eyes and then that you know, that's not good. But I mean, I was terrified and I stared at it. It stared at me, and and I thought, oh, how that man, I'm in trouble. And I took off running, and it took off running after me, and and I was running up. My truck was on the other side of the camp, way back on the other side. And so as I took off running, I was watching it

17:33 while I was running, and this this thing it as I turned and I was still kept my head turned around watching it. And as I turned to run toward where my truck was at, and as I was watching it, it stopped dead in its tracks because it couldn't turn like what you know, like what we do, we can turn where we're running, and this thing couldn't turn why it was running. It had to stop to turn. I talked to somebody else on a podcast one time about that, and he said, that's he said, that's typical primate. Primate cannot turn why it's running, and which I never knew that and so I ran right past the campfire, right past where everybody was all setting at and I got past them, almost to my truck, and I heard. All I did was I heard a boom boom boom, boom boom.

18:43 And a friend of mine had a he had a forty four and he shot like five times up over its head, and he said the thing was about ready to running over. And he said the sixth shot around ran back into the woods. And I think if he hadn't have been there, I think it would have grabbed me and probably tore me from limb to limb. And so I can remember vaguely the color of it was like a reddish brown, and it seemed like it had red eyes. And that's all I can remember. I can't really, I can't really remember anything other than I knew it.

19:39 It was on two feet and it stood up tall. And I think that what it was is it traumatized me. Whenever I saw it, I knew I was in trouble and you know, and it chased me. I think that's the reason why I didn't. I can't. I can't remember, but you know the thing of it is is to me, I provoked it by yelling and screaming and had come in there. To me, it was my fault. The things before then had really had never bothered us. We'd seen them all the time. We knew they were in the camp, and we knew they were around, but in even screaming at them get them to scream, and I never knew what these screams meant. But after that time, it's like I was kind of I was kind of afraid to do any more streaming unless I was in front of my truck with the engine running and I can just jump in there and go if I had to. But that that was that was one of the incidents that i'd seen him. And then I had a cousin that

21:15 came from Texas to Oregon, and so I thought I would take him up there to that Not we didn't go to the camp. There was another spot across the bridge, and I took him up there just, uh you know, for a couple of hours, just drove up there. And uh so I was up there across the bridge and the road. They chopped the road off so you couldn't drive through there, so we had to walk and uh so we walked up that hill and I could look off across the Malala River and then there was a road.

21:58 You couldn't see the road, but then the it was a gravel road and because it's paved up to the bridge, and then it turns the gravel and across that and then up a hill and it was bear up there. And so I was just showing him. I wanted to show him what we were doing and how I could call for him and stuff. So I was up there and I started calling these things. There was like three of them. They come out of a big like rocky area and this was probably about four o'clock in the afternoon.

22:46 They come walking out of the or like a gorilla or whatever. They come out of that rocky area and they come around. They were kind of like half bend over off walking, and some of them they were kind of you know, kind of like a like a primemate would. They came out and they grabbed a hold of a uh of a tree and they took that tree and they bended all the way over toward the ground. Then they let that tree go and it was just flopping back and forth one way to the other, and they were jumping up and down whatever whatever that stream bent.

23:34 I don't know, but they were just having a good old time. And I told my cousin, I said, well, we still have about a mile to walk back out of here. And I said, I I got to get out of here because, you know, after being chased by that one, I thought, you know, and this is this is just you know, too uncomfortable for me. So we laugh. Uh at the time, I didn't have a camera. I wasn't expecting anything. I was just you know, out there wanting to show him, you know what what we were doing and stuff. And uh. That was that was one incident that we had had. We had one incident that my ex and I we went there to the Bigfoot camp and my daughter she had she had had a rabbit and we'd had it in a cage and uh, the first night, I mean, nothing bothered it. The second night, we kept hearing something trying to get that rabbit out of the cage. And so I got up out of the tent, walked over, grabbed the rabbit, put it in the tent, and we were telling our friend Ori about it,

25:04 and and then Ori had asked, he goes, can I borrow your rabbit? He said, I'm going to try to do the same thing. See if I can get one come up on us. And so I let him borrow the rabbit. They took it out there. I wasn't there that night they did that, but I let him use the rabbit and they put glowes sticks around it. And Ori he he was interviewed by uh was it Matt Moneymaker and stuff? Because they were out at some place where they were having a town hall meeting and he and Ori told him about the rabbit incident. And so if you go on to Finding Bigfoot, you see that incident there with the with the rabbit and and everything that I geild. That's what that came from myself and my family. And uh, that that area where you'd seen where Matt Moneymaker and them where they did some screaming in that look that camp that was the same camp and that I had had that incident happen. I had

26:38 another incident. And this was I can't remember when this was, but we were in Estacado, which is, uh, it's over from Malala. You've got to go up and over to Esticado. And then again we were just just my friend and I Mark. We were just driving around. We just went up to the mountains out to do anything searching for Bigfoot. We were just driving around up there. I didn't have my camera, I didn't have nothing, and we stopped and we were looking down this ridgeline and Mark's like, there's something moving down there, and we look and there was one that come out of the tree line. It came down by the you know where the two the saddle of the two mountains kind of come in and it's beare on the one side. So we watched it walk on two legs, and it walked about halfway up that hillside, and uh, we just sa know, let's just get in the car and go around, you know, we try to find that road that's up there, because we could see a road up there. So we came around, but that

28:12 road it was gated off. They had a gate over that, so we couldn't go on that road. So we but we did see it, you know, we were hoping to see it feather up there. But uh, that was that was one time that we had seen and that I had experienced one and then another time and this was right. I think it hadn't have been the It was like November, the same year that I'd got chased by that one.

28:58 But it passed forward to know November, I went up there hunting, and I always say, bigfut kind of saved me from getting a ticket because I was doing deer hunting. But that was the first they closed deer hunting down for elk season, and I wasn't even I wasn't even thinking about it. I thought it was still, you know, deer season. So I went up there to deer hunting, which this road that I took off on is just down the road from the Big Fuck Camp, probably about a half a mile or not even that, and there's a little road that kind of goes up and I was up on that road for about a couple of miles up there. And I drove up there, oh maybe about five thirty in the morning. It was still dark, and I by a tree and I stopped there, got out of the vehicle. When it started getting light enough to where I could see to go out to make a stand. I get out of the vehicle and I come around to the back end of the car and I could see the tree. There was one and it must have been standing right by that tree. And I

30:30 don't know if it was that same one that chased me before or what because it was up in that same area. But that thing led out of scream and the whole ground vibrated. And I've never I've never had known of an animal here in the United States that could scream so loudly to make a ground shake. Big for society would be right back after these messages.

31:15 And I kind of looked up at that big Douglas fur and I could see the top of it. It was just swaying back and forth. There was no wind, but that tree was just swaying. The ground was shaken, and I'm like, you know, I'm out of here. I'm going back home, you know. So I went ahead and went back home. I mean, it scared me, and so I went home. And then that's whenever I looked at the synopsis and realized that it was elk season and and I'm like, oh, I'm glad it turned around and told me to go home, because I could have gotten in trouble, you know. But uh, I know some of a lot of these incidentss we never did report them because or you know, he said, uh, he wanted to do his research and stuff, and he's like, you know, I don't want people to know our area. This is our this is our area. And if we start saying anything and Bigfoot society are not big the finding Bigfoot people.

32:34 You know, they they were around at that time, and and and aris like, you know, I don't want any of them to know because if if we did, then they would kind of know our spot and we would you know, people would come in here and started waiting on us and might scare him a way or something. So uh, I kind of cap a lot of these things, you know, just within the group. And but I mean this has been this has been since the ninety three ninety four, in the middle middle nineties is when we used to go out. And so anyway that that is.

33:24 That is all my experience that I've had of them. I know, there was one time I was up in the woods and we were just a lot of times we just go up there to camp. I love the mountains. I spent most of my time up there, and we were we were just on a hike, my family and I and uh. I was hiking down the trail and then I got off the trail and went down to the tree line because I went down there out of the out of the site, because I you know, I had to go down and use the restroom. So I wanted to get down out of the site. So I hiked way down to the bottom of there, and there was a coming back up. There was a there was a big stick that was laying beside a tree, and I was like, I wonder why somebody that hiked down here would leave their stick over there by the tree.

34:37 So I picked it up and decided I was going to do a tree knock with it. And that tree knock, I mean it, it echoed and you can hear it all around, and you know that tree, it made an echo. And so I took that tree, or I took that stick, and I went over to another tree and I hit it, and it was just kind of like a thump. You know, there's no echo, just a thump. I went to another tree and I did the same thing. And all these trees around they weren't making any noise. It wasn't carrying out.

35:23 But I went back to that same tree and I hit it, and you can just hear it just echo through the woods. And I don't know, but in my thinking and I thought about it, I'm like, I wonder if that might have that stick might have been left there by a bigfoot because that was that was a stick they were using to bang on a train, and they like they they know what tree to hit to make nobodase carry out, just like I kind of figured out going long food there, I kind of figured out you just don't go anywheres and make a scream. You can, but you got to kind of test areas. You've got to kind of know a good area to scream at to carry that scream throughout the woods, because it'll there, you'll you'll hit a spot that will eckle that throughout.

36:31 And so that that's some of our experiences there. My goodness, that's some of the most. That's incredible. I had no idea any of this was coming from what you had provided. Those accounts are absolutely wild. Thank you for sharing those. It sounds like some of them for the first time. I definitely have a few questions for you. You were in an actual research group. It sounds like, are any of the other members of that group still with us. I haven't been in touch with them for a while there, and I've moved to Texas and so they're in Oregon and I haven't heard from any of them in a while.

37:25 So I one one. One of them is ri in Us and then Mark Uh Santa Sklovsky. He was one of the guys. And there was just other ones that would come in that or would invite in, you know that he would get a hold of and and and invite in. We we had did stories through Western Bigfoot Society. We did go down there with them, but we never really did uh make it known, you know, to you know, to anybody. We didn't try to put everything out there.

38:20 And Uh Orihannes and trying to think of what his son's name is. Uh. They were the ones that did the interview with UH with that finding Bigfoot, and they did an interview with them. I've done interviews before, you know, kind of not this whole story that I'm telling, but I've done interviews. Like I said, the podcast that I did one time with Van Chase by the one and and that was like in two thousand and seven, and that that guy was the one told me that it was that it was that it sounded like it was primates because of the way that it, you know, it acted.

39:20 I living here for a while. I think it was like in two thousand and sixteen, I started talking with this one guy and he I think he's got camp fire tales or something like that. Curtis Curtis Jones. And we've been real good friends and I've known him for a while and I've told him about the story, and he'd asked me to relate that story. But other than that, I really had have not gone out and really made it public.

40:03 Did you ever go out with any like Peter Burn or Henry Franzoni or any of those guys. I had Peter Burn when when we were first when we first started realizing that, you know, something was coming around the camp, and we went back in camp there and but we we called Peter Burn and we had him to come out there and check everything out. And he had told us he goes because we did get a picture of a footprint, and he told us he said, well, I don't think that's what it is. He says, I think it's just two feet somebody running around barefoot, and it's just two feet that birds together and makes it look wide and long. You know, they kind of slid down the hill. And it's like, no, it didn't look like that. It was a it was an actual footprint.

41:11 It didn't look like it slid anywhere, and so we felt, I don't know, I have bad I had bad things going, you know, with him and with what he was trying trying to make us look like like we didn't even know what we were saying or doing out there. You know, that is unfortunate, but that stuff does happen. Yeah. Now I do know that those screams that you were there in California that happened in the seventies. What's that guy's name? Uh, you know he got the one that that they sound like they were talking about and forth. Yeah, Moorehead, yes, and he he he has been there with us in our group. Ori invited him. I knew Ron moore ahead, and uh, I listened to some of his tapes. We've talked to Ron Moorehead the so that that was. That was one person I know that was. I didn't know how famous that guy was, and I didn't know anything, you know, I just knew that he was coming around,

42:41 you know, and we'd go out with and somebody he come out with us, and so we would go out at night and that's when we would do our you know, our investigations. And it was funny there and this really you can try it and it happens is uh Ori was telling me that animals do not like red light there. It's not that they don't like it, they can't uh when they see it, they're not stunned by it like headlights, you know, a white light. You know, they get stunned by a deer in the headlights, you know. And uh, so I told Ari, I said, uh, what if I take some red silophane and put it over my headlights and make it red? And so I did that. I bought some I got up there into the mountains when it was at dark, and I took that red silophane and I put it on my headlights and drove around and i'd have deer's come out, and a deer come out and just walk right in front of the road, right in front of me and kind of look over like, you know. But it never did fase them. They just

44:12 kind of look like, okay, there's something over there, you know, and they'd look my direction. But it never did scare them. It never did. They just you know, but if you put if you put red cellofin over your headlights, well you're driving around in the mountains in the in the dark, you'll see animals just they're not even fazed by those lights at all. So I don't know if you ever heard of that or. Not, but no, that's an incredible I've never heard that, and I'd be curious if other people have tried that. But that is a really interesting idea and I like it for sure. Did you guys have a name for your group at all?

44:57 No, we never had it. We never had a name. Were just I never really had any money to do anything, uh Ori. You know, he had the money to go out and buy sound equipment, you know, to to pick up sound out in the woods. He bought cameras, infrared cameras, and uh that's how I kind of knew about what he was talking about with the with the red light, because with the infrared cameras, it gives off that red light and the animals weren't afraid of that infra red.

45:37 Big for Society will be right back after these messages, he. Said that I think it was the amp for red or something like that, because is he did say that if he could take a white light, you know, from a camera, and you can put something red over it, that they that it never bothered them. They would come around. But with that white light. He said they would come around.

46:18 So that that's why I thought, well, I'm going to put it on my headlights and uh so the anyway that that's what I started doing there, and uh so, but uh there's this all sorts of things that you know, we've we've done that. I've had other people talk about, you know, you can't do this, and you know it's at night. You know, you can only hunt them at night, and it's like, no, I've seen him. I've seen them during the daytime, you know, Like yeah, like I said, I had that one come running in on me and.

47:07 That that must have been incredible to experience that. Do you know if anyone still researches that Bigfoot camp area? I have no idea because I've since moved to Texas in two thousand and seven and so and I have no idea, but I know they probably are still around there, and we used to go down there and it's just like sometimes we would spend like a week at a time down there, and where they kind of get used to you. You see people come in and they set up a camp and they're only there for a couple of days, is when they start getting finally start getting used to you. You know, you you pack up and you leave, and that's when the activity starts starts. You know, if you stay there longer, then once the activity starts ramping up, you know, then then then you're gonna you might you might not. You know, there's sometimes we did, sometimes we didn't, but we kind of do that. You know, if we stayed there a little bit longer, we would

48:39 have more of a chance. And I worked at a job at that time. I worked at driving school buses, so in the summer I would have off. So I spent a lot of my summer there around in that area. And we had one time we had our campers were on the back of our truck and we went there to that camp. There is that road and it kind of goes down a hill and another little spot. It's not very big, but Mark and I he had his camper and I had my camper. When we were kind of back to back down in there and lurs there at the campfire and sitting around talking and then all of a sudden we had we had stuff being thrown at us from over the camper and it never did scare us. This was before I did all that screaming and stuff. But I mean even after that, it never really bothered me because we just, you know, figured they were playing with us. So we would have rocks and we would have things throwed at us and they wouldn't hit us. If they wanted to hit us, they would have.

50:07 And so then all of a sudden, we were sitting there and I mean it was a big size chunk of log that we had sitting over there where we had our firewood at and that thing come flying over top of us, landed between this one Lady Mary and I landed right between us, and we just turned around and we just said, is that all you got? You're going to throw any more? And it never did bother us, you know, but if it wanted to take that log and throw it over top of the camper and hit us, it could have, you know, but we knew that it was just it had to be playing because it landed right in between us. You know, we had pine combs thrown at us and they wouldn't hurt us or anything.

51:04 You know, it just you know, if we did have a rock throat at us, it wouldn't hit as hard. And you know, if they wanted to hurt us. They would have, you know, you could tell it was just playing around. And so, but there was a spot before that Bigfoot camp, there was a spot before getting up there. We camped in there one time, Mark and I did in my family, and we went down. Mark and I went down to the creek during the day and when we came back out, something had walked through there. Because the trees, you can see water was dripping from the trees about seven eight foot up in the air. You can tell something wet had moved through there. And so Mark and night during the day or during the evening the night, probably about around ten o'clock or so, we walked down that little road and back off in that way and we got chased then by something. We didn't see it, we could hear it running up after us, and we took off running and went back to the camp where a camper was at. And so it was

52:35 like there was one down there, but it was it was aggressive. But the ones up there by the Bigfoot camp, it's like they never did they never did bothers. And so we kind of got to figuring that out too. Is that, you know? Is that so we got kind of figuring out too, is that there was there was groups of them in places that were some of them were aggressive and some of them they weren't. And I don't know why, you know, I don't know why. Some of them were like they wanted to play around, play around and just you know, but I've heard people say, oh, I got pine cone throwed at me, and it's like sometimes all they want to do is they just want to scare you off from where you're at there, Well they got gun hurt chief unless you're provoking. And that's that's the thing is like I got provoked that one time, and I mean I provoked thatt one, so I can't that's all I'm mean, you know. And so I like that one that screamed that it shook the ground. I don't know if that was the same one that chased me or what, or if it was a different one,

54:06 but that was kind of like it was my indication to leave, and so you know, I kind of we kind of figured that out too. You know, I'm not really that's even after being chased, I'm not really that afraid of them. You know. Yeah, it did traumatize me, but it didn't traumatize me. But I you know, I'm not. I'm not like I want to go back at there's places around. I had a friend of mine, just or one of the guys I worked with, said they went to Broken Boat, Oklahoma, and they said there's a lot of them there, And I want to go up there here, either East Tech or over in that area. I want to go over there and try to see if I can find anything.

55:08 Oh, you look for him, you'd be able to find a lot of stuff. I have a few more questions about Oregon. I know that we've been talking for quite a while, but I do want to make sure I asked these You mentioned there was a recording of the scream? Do you know anyone who would be in possession of that or do you think it's probably a thing that might be lost to time. I had one, but I lost it. But Ori might have one if not, if you were able to get a hold of Ori, if you were to find him, if you were able to get a hold of him, he would tell you because he had turned those screams and stuff what he had had. I think either it was a college in some kind of research place there in Oregon, and.

56:03 Uh Okay, So I'm gonna try to track them down. Did you ever have any research that happened in the Oakridge area or willam At National Forest or hear any bigfoot activity from the Oakridge area. Oak Bridge whereas Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Uh the Wilamite, the Wilamotte, I did, uh, I had. I've had places there because of the Willamite National Forest is just right close, you know, the round well the Malala the Malala River area. That that's all I think in in Uh. I think that's part of the Wilamite. I'm not really for sure. I know it's closed. Uh. I've had experiences up toward s Takata, which is a little bit further over toward the Mountpood area. I've had over in there. I've had uh, I've had places over there, trying to think, uh the Abafall which is over towards Silver Creek Falls in that area, we've we've gone over there and we've had we've had activity over in there,

57:38 tree breaks and trees that were snapped off real high up in there. And uh, Orion some of their friends they did they did a research or whatever. They went over there and they camped out there in the Albiflat and they had one surrounding their camp and uh, I can't remember when he said. He said, it got kind of violin over there, so they had to end up leaving and uh and uh, Mark and I we went back during the day and that road was all cut off.

58:28 It was uh uh trenched out. But we had to walk about a mile back in there where that camp was that they had that they had had and uh we walked back there and it started getting dark and we started noticing something was over there and we started walking back and it started following us. And then Mark was getting scared and he was sayings and like I think it's fallering this and this and that, and I told Mark, I go just shut up. I said, we still got about a half mile to go to the vehicle. And I said, I don't want to think about it. So, I mean, the more I thought about it, the more my heart was beating, you know, because I didn't know what this thing was going to do, you know. So but that, yeah, that that and the applepha is in like the Willam National Forest area.

59:35 So but there's one last question I want to ask, just because I need I need to because I kind of a journalist, but not really right. So the Bigfoot Camp. Is it a thing where you would ever share any more details about, like is it near a certain recreation area or because the Malala River is a pretty long river? Yeah, would that be anything where you'd be willing to share more information about where the Bigfoot Camp is located? Uh?

1:00:22 Yeah, i'd share on it. Would that be an off air thing or. No, it's it's where that's at. It's it's it's uh oh out by like outside of Malala, the town of Malala, and uh kind of go toward Dicky Ferry and I think you take a right and then the road runs off out that way and there's a there's like another road that that splits off. Finally got probably about eight miles down that or up that road until you get to the Big Quick Camp. So, I mean it doesn't it doesn't really bother me.

1:01:18 Any So this is anywhere sorry, this is an unmarked area. I mean, it's not like by a recreation area. This is just your going on forest roads. Yeah, it's just run forest roads. It's where the Bigwick area is at what we call the Big Pick Camp. It's it's uh, it's all it's all of a paved road. I mean, it doesn't have any stripes or anything like that, but it's paid. It's just not too far down from that road, about a mile two miles down it turns into gravel. It splits off by a bridge, and it turns into gravel.

1:02:03 Okay, yeah, I see South Dicky Prairie Road. You were saying, Yeah, okay, interesting. Well, maybe there'll be someone who knows the area well enough to use that information to check it out. I don't know, we'll see, yeah, but yeah, I appreciate you you sharing that, and if there are people already checking out that area, I'd love to talk to you as well. But Okay, this has been an incredible chat. I mean, I guess since you're the only person I've ever talked to who has been chased by a bigfoot and survived, would you consider these creatures to be more like an ape creature or some kind of human creature. What was it that you you got from them while they were chasing.

1:02:53 You in May? They are like a big gorilla or big big eight for like a big eight or something like that. Like I said, I know, really I never really got a full look in there in that one space when it chased me, because I think I was more traumatized that really get full detail of what it looked like. And so but I see him as being a big primate is what I see him as. Man.

1:03:38 Gotcha, Well, you have some fascinating accounts and I'm so glad that I talked to you. Ed really are I mean, you reached out out of nowhere, and I'm glad you did. If you do remember any more information or any other things that you want to share it at a later time, I would love to talk to you again. But thank you so much for and if you ever have any you know, questions about Oklahoma or Texas. I do have some information about that. We can always talk later about that. But that would be fun if you were able to get involved down where you're at now.

1:04:19 Yeah, okay, all right, Well thanks a lot for the interview and everything, and I appreciate you, know, being able to do this. Everything, Yes, sir, and I'll be I'll be in touch. I'll let you know if i'm able. I'm going to try to track down this this ory guy. We'll see if you're still around, I'll let you know. But all right, all right, thank you for chatting today, ed you have a good one, All right, Youtobe, Please take a minute to help out the show by subscribing on YouTube, making sure you hit the bell so you don't miss any notifications, and share the episode on YouTube with a friend. Also, if you're listening to us on a podcast, thank you so much. Make sure that you're subscribed, share the show with a friend. Really, it's all about sharing the show wherever you can. If you've had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following, or know someone who has, please reach out to me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email. Here's the list. If you've had any encounters in Oregon, which I'm sure there's probably a few of you out there, please feel free to reach out immediately. You can use email Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. A special thank you to all the Bigfoot Society, Patreon and YouTube channel members. It's your support that helps keep the show going and I extremely appreciate it.

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