Nov. 6, 2024

Chased by Bigfoot in Mollala, Oregon!

Ed shares his jaw-dropping encounters with Bigfoot in Oregon. From a close sighting on Highway 101 in California to spine-chilling experiences in the Mollala River Corridor of Oregon, Ed's story is nothing short of extraordinary. Witness Ed's...

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Season 1

Ed shares his jaw-dropping encounters with Bigfoot in Oregon. From a close sighting on Highway 101 in California to spine-chilling experiences in the Mollala River Corridor of Oregon, Ed's story is nothing short of extraordinary. Witness Ed's transformation from a curious observer to a daring researcher who used distinctive screams and red light techniques to interact with these elusive creatures. Listen to his unsettling tales of being chased, observing their behaviors, and even recording their screams, all while navigating unknown forest roads and camping spots. This episode is filled with firsthand accounts and detailed descriptions of the locations, making it a must-listen for wilderness enthusiasts and Bigfoot believers alike.

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with the show. All right, Big for Society. You've got

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the privilege of talking to Ed today. Ed is an

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individual who reached out through email about some things that

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he experienced out there in Oregon over the years. But Ed,

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it's a privilege to have you on the show today.

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How are you doing today, sir?

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I'm doing good.

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Perfect. We were talking a little bit in the pre show,

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but I'm excited to get right into this. So D

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I'm going to go ahead and pass the mic right

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over to you, and feel free to share with us

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what you experienced over the years when you're out there

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in Oregon.

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Okay, okay. Start out when I was about sixteen seventeen,

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I think. But this was in California, somewheres around Eureka, Humboldt,

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you know, Humboldt County. We were heading to Bakersfield and

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we were cutting off on one oh one, my brother

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in law, sister, and brother in law, and it was

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at night. And my nickname that they call me is Sonny,

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and so it was late at night when we were

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heading down the road and I I was asleep in

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the front seat. He was driving, and he stopped the

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car in the middle of the highway. There was nobody around,

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you know, and he's like, Sonny, Sonny. And I woke

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up and he's like, look at that. And the car

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was stopped and I looked over and then it was

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a clear moon night, you know, the full moon, and

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it was setting up standing up kind of like on

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an embankment, and it walked down in front of the car,

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turned and did like a classic you know, bigfoot look

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at us, turned back around and just walked over and

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we can see it walk down an embankment and off,

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you know, up into the woods. And I'm like, uh.

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He was saying, well, let's go chase that thing, and

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I'm like, no, I'm not. I've never I've been in

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the woods, you know, since i was a kid, and

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I'm like, I've never seen anything like that. I was

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not gonna out to go chase that thing. And I

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never said anything to my dad. I never said anything

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to him or any any anybody about that because I

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wasn't for sure what I had just seen and passed

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forward to when we were in Oregon, my acts and family, uh,

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my daughter. We started camping there in Malala River Corridor

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that's in Marion County, uh in Oregon, and we started

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we went up there with some friends and we started,

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you know, seeing like eyes and stuff glowing back at

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us and from the camp light, and I didn't know

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what it was. When we knew something was moving around

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us and that was more than just one and it

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kind of scared us. We were like, we didn't know

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what it was. And the brands of ours that we

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were with, they they started talking about later after we

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packed up. We packed up and laughed and they started

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telling us later about Bigfoot. And then we started seeing

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pictures and they started showing me pictures and stuff of Bigfoot.

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And I got into that and I was like, you

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know these pictures, that's the same thing I saw there

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in California, you know, on that highway one oh one.

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I said, that's the same thing I saw. And so

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we just kept going up to that spot. That spot

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where we camped at there used to be like a

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ranger station there, and the ranger station was was down.

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All was was this foundation, but it was a big

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area out there, and we can put two or three

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campers and stuff out there. Are more intents and stuff.

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So it was a pretty good sized area and we

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gone there so much that and we'd seen bigfoot around

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there that we did we called it the Bigfoot Camp

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and so we started kind of getting used to them,

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and then we we we found some other people that

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we started uh going out with and uh or he

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and ended up he ended up he was doing like

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a uh. We got into like a group to go

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out and research them and stuff, and so we would

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either go up to that camp or we've gone up

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to several different places. And there was one time we

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went camping just my family and the Bigfoot camp was uh,

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somebody else was in there. So we went down the

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road a little ways, which was about a mile down

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the road where the there's a bridge off to the

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side and there's a little spot over there, and all

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these spots were not in a designated campground and uh,

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so we pulled off. There were just like pull off

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spots where loggers, you know, had logged and there was

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a landing that's and they were old, so you know,

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trees had grown up around them. And so there was

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a pretty good nice place camp and we were up

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their camping and my daughter I think she was like

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a couple of years old. She started throwing a fit

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and started screaming and crying and carrying on, and we

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were wanting to go take a walk, and when we

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stepped out onto the road, all of a sudden, I

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heard this scream, a scream that I never even heard before.

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I didn't even hear them whenever we were watching them

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over there at the Bigfoot camp. I never even heard

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that scream, and so I figured that's what it was,

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and so I got my daughter settled down, and so

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then I thought, well, I'm going to try to imitate it.

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This was probably about nineteen ninety three, and I never

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even heard anybody else doing these screams like this before.

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And that's what I decided to do. I was going

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to imitate what that thing was doing because I kept screaming,

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and so I started imitating it. I'd screaming, I'd scream

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We went back and forth with screaming, and then pretty

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soon it stopped, and then we went ahead and went

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off and went on our walk and came back to

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the camp. And so then I started telling Ari and

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some of the friends that we were doing the group

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with that I was getting this thing to scream back

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with me, and so they started using me every time

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they go out into it. You know, we go out

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into a research we go out at night, and so

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they started using me to scream and I get them,

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I get them to scream and get them to call

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back and we get some recording or he is he

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had taken some of the streams that we had had

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and he'd taken him up to I don't know, some college,

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and the person on that college had said it was

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one of the best vocals that he had heard. And

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so every time I'd go out, I'd scream and get

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you know, callbacks. And I believe it was in nineteen

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ninety four. My ex and I we went there to

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the camp. We just went during the day just for

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we had We had a couple of friends that were

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there at the Bigfoot camp, so we just went there

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for the day just to just to visit with them.

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And so we go up there and we were talking

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and then the one guy chance he had been fashing

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and he caught a salmon and he had said he's

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had it in on ice in the ice chest, and

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he said something was trying to get in his truck

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because he had a big crew cab, a four door truck,

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and he was sleeping in the back seat, but he

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had that fishop there. He said something was trying to

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get in the truck, trying to open the door, and

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they were saying that they believed that could have been

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one there. So I went over to miss tree that

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I always screamed that because I did these streamings for

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a long time, and I realized, you got to find

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a spot that will echo and throw that scream out,

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and so that's what I did. I had a spot

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there at that camp that I could scream and throw

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that out. So that's what I did. I screamed. And

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this was probably about it was the end of summer,

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probably about September, and it was maybe five o'clock. It

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wasn't quite it didn't go dark yet, but it was

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still light out and so there was still pretty pretty

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much light. It wasn't completely you know, it didn't go

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dark yet. So but anyway, I went over by the

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tree and I screamed, and I got this wanted to

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scream back, which I thought, well, you know, which I

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thought was kind of odd. Is I thought they only

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did this at night, you know, So I get this

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thing to scream back at me, and we kind of

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screamed back and forth toward one another, and then it

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just stopped. So I went back over, sat down at

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the campfire, and you know, talk with some my friends there,

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and then I thought, well, I wonder if that thing

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will start screaming again. I think that's like fifteen minutes past.

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And I went back over the tree and started screaming,

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and this thing started screaming back. But I can tell

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it wasn't as high up. It sounded like it was

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like halfway down the mountain. This was on the opposite

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side of the road, up top of the hill a

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mountain up there, so it sounded like it was about

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halfway down. And I scream bit screamed. We did this

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for a little bit and then it just stopped, you know,

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maybe about three four screens and then it just stops.

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And so I went back over and I sat back down,

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started talking to my friends there at the campfire, and

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then I thought, okay, I'm going to go back over

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and I'm going to scream again. So I did. I

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went back over to the tree and I started screaming,

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and it started screaming, but this time it sounded like

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it was almost by the road. And then it quit screaming,

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and I went back over again, back by the campfire,

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and sat down for about another fifteen minutes, got up,

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went back over to the tree again, and I started screaming,

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but I didn't hear anything thing, so I just continue

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to stand there. And there was like where the camp's at,

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there's like a little road kind of like like you know,

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a dirt road, that kind of old road that went

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around by the by the where there there was a

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ranger station, and off on the other side of that

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was it went kind of dropped down a little hill

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and an embankment.

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Big for society will be right back after these messages, and.

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Uh so back off in that direction. And it never

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did this this time. It never did answer me back,

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but back off in that direction. I heard sound like

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a freight train come busting up through the woods. I mean,

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everything was just cracking and busting. And then it come

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up through that embankment and it got up on that

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little road up there, and I was standing by the tree.

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We were probably no more than, oh, I say, about

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fifty feet maybe twenty five feet. It wasn't very far,

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you know, between being it and they and I've had

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people say don't stare at them, you know, or don't

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stare in an animal, because when you do, a stare

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off in their eyes and then that you know, that's

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not good. But I mean, I was terrified and I

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stared at it. It stared at me, and and I thought, oh,

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how that man, I'm in trouble. And I took off running,

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and it took off running after me, and and I

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was running up. My truck was on the other side

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of the camp, way back on the other side. And

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so as I took off running, I was watching it

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while I was running, and this this thing it as

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I turned and I was still kept my head turned

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around watching it. And as I turned to run toward

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where my truck was at, and as I was watching it,

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it stopped dead in its tracks because it couldn't turn

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like what you know, like what we do, we can

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turn where we're running, and this thing couldn't turn why

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it was running. It had to stop to turn. I

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talked to somebody else on a podcast one time about that,

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and he said, that's he said, that's typical primate. Primate

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cannot turn why it's running, and which I never knew

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that and so I ran right past the campfire, right

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past where everybody was all setting at and I got

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past them, almost to my truck, and I heard. All

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I did was I heard a boom boom boom, boom boom.

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And a friend of mine had a he had a

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forty four and he shot like five times up over

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its head, and he said the thing was about ready

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to running over. And he said the sixth shot around

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ran back into the woods. And I think if he

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hadn't have been there, I think it would have grabbed

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me and probably tore me from limb to limb. And

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so I can remember vaguely the color of it was

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like a reddish brown, and it seemed like it had

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red eyes. And that's all I can remember. I can't really,

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I can't really remember anything other than I knew it.

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It was on two feet and it stood up tall.

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And I think that what it was is it traumatized me.

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Whenever I saw it, I knew I was in trouble

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and you know, and it chased me. I think that's

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the reason why I didn't. I can't. I can't remember,

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but you know the thing of it is is to me,

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I provoked it by yelling and screaming and had come

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in there. To me, it was my fault. The things

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before then had really had never bothered us. We'd seen

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them all the time. We knew they were in the camp,

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and we knew they were around, but in even screaming

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at them get them to scream, and I never knew

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what these screams meant. But after that time, it's like

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I was kind of I was kind of afraid to

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do any more streaming unless I was in front of

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my truck with the engine running and I can just

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jump in there and go if I had to. But

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that that was that was one of the incidents that

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i'd seen him. And then I had a cousin that

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came from Texas to Oregon, and so I thought I

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would take him up there to that Not we didn't

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go to the camp. There was another spot across the bridge,

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and I took him up there just, uh you know,

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for a couple of hours, just drove up there. And

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uh so I was up there across the bridge and

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the road. They chopped the road off so you couldn't

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drive through there, so we had to walk and uh

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so we walked up that hill and I could look

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off across the Malala River and then there was a road.

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You couldn't see the road, but then the it was

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a gravel road and because it's paved up to the bridge,

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and then it turns the gravel and across that and

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then up a hill and it was bear up there.

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And so I was just showing him. I wanted to

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show him what we were doing and how I could

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call for him and stuff. So I was up there

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and I started calling these things. There was like three

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of them. They come out of a big like rocky

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area and this was probably about four o'clock in the afternoon.

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They come walking out of the or like a gorilla

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or whatever. They come out of that rocky area and

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they come around. They were kind of like half bend

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over off walking, and some of them they were kind

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of you know, kind of like a like a primemate would.

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They came out and they grabbed a hold of a

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uh of a tree and they took that tree and

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they bended all the way over toward the ground. Then

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they let that tree go and it was just flopping

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back and forth one way to the other, and they

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were jumping up and down whatever whatever that stream bent.

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I don't know, but they were just having a good

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old time. And I told my cousin, I said, well,

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we still have about a mile to walk back out

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of here. And I said, I I got to get

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out of here because, you know, after being chased by

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that one, I thought, you know, and this is this

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is just you know, too uncomfortable for me. So we laugh.

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Uh at the time, I didn't have a camera. I

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wasn't expecting anything. I was just you know, out there

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wanting to show him, you know what what we were

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doing and stuff. And uh. That was that was one

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incident that we had had. We had one incident that

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my ex and I we went there to the Bigfoot

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camp and my daughter she had she had had a

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rabbit and we'd had it in a cage and uh,

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the first night, I mean, nothing bothered it. The second night,

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we kept hearing something trying to get that rabbit out

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of the cage. And so I got up out of

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the tent, walked over, grabbed the rabbit, put it in

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the tent, and we were telling our friend Ori about it,

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and and then Ori had asked, he goes, can I

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borrow your rabbit? He said, I'm going to try to

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do the same thing. See if I can get one

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come up on us. And so I let him borrow

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the rabbit. They took it out there. I wasn't there

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that night they did that, but I let him use

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the rabbit and they put glowes sticks around it. And

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Ori he he was interviewed by uh was it Matt

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Moneymaker and stuff? Because they were out at some place

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where they were having a town hall meeting and he

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and Ori told him about the rabbit incident. And so

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if you go on to Finding Bigfoot, you see that

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incident there with the with the rabbit and and everything

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that I geild. That's what that came from myself and

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my family. And uh, that that area where you'd seen

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where Matt Moneymaker and them where they did some screaming

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in that look that camp that was the same camp

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and that I had had that incident happen. I had

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another incident. And this was I can't remember when this was,

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but we were in Estacado, which is, uh, it's over

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from Malala. You've got to go up and over to Esticado.

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And then again we were just just my friend and

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I Mark. We were just driving around. We just went

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up to the mountains out to do anything searching for Bigfoot.

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We were just driving around up there. I didn't have

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my camera, I didn't have nothing, and we stopped and

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we were looking down this ridgeline and Mark's like, there's

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something moving down there, and we look and there was

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one that come out of the tree line. It came

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down by the you know where the two the saddle

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of the two mountains kind of come in and it's

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beare on the one side. So we watched it walk

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on two legs, and it walked about halfway up that hillside,

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and uh, we just sa know, let's just get in

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the car and go around, you know, we try to

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find that road that's up there, because we could see

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a road up there. So we came around, but that

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road it was gated off. They had a gate over that,

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so we couldn't go on that road. So we but

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we did see it, you know, we were hoping to

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see it feather up there. But uh, that was that

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was one time that we had seen and that I

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had experienced one and then another time and this was right.

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I think it hadn't have been the It was like November,

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the same year that I'd got chased by that one.

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But it passed forward to know November, I went up

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there hunting, and I always say, bigfut kind of saved

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me from getting a ticket because I was doing deer hunting.

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But that was the first they closed deer hunting down

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for elk season, and I wasn't even I wasn't even

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thinking about it. I thought it was still, you know,

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deer season. So I went up there to deer hunting,

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which this road that I took off on is just

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down the road from the Big Fuck Camp, probably about

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a half a mile or not even that, and there's

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a little road that kind of goes up and I

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was up on that road for about a couple of

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miles up there. And I drove up there, oh maybe

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about five thirty in the morning. It was still dark,

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and I by a tree and I stopped there, got

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out of the vehicle. When it started getting light enough

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to where I could see to go out to make

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a stand. I get out of the vehicle and I

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come around to the back end of the car and

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I could see the tree. There was one and it

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must have been standing right by that tree. And I

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don't know if it was that same one that chased

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me before or what because it was up in that

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same area. But that thing led out of scream and

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the whole ground vibrated. And I've never I've never had

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known of an animal here in the United States that

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could scream so loudly to make a ground shake.

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Big for society would be right back after these messages.

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And I kind of looked up at that big Douglas

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fur and I could see the top of it. It

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was just swaying back and forth. There was no wind,

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but that tree was just swaying. The ground was shaken,

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and I'm like, you know, I'm out of here. I'm

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going back home, you know. So I went ahead and

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went back home. I mean, it scared me, and so

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I went home. And then that's whenever I looked at

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the synopsis and realized that it was elk season and

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and I'm like, oh, I'm glad it turned around and

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told me to go home, because I could have gotten

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in trouble, you know. But uh, I know some of

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a lot of these incidentss we never did report them

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because or you know, he said, uh, he wanted to

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do his research and stuff, and he's like, you know,

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I don't want people to know our area. This is

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our this is our area. And if we start saying

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anything and Bigfoot society are not big the finding Bigfoot people.

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You know, they they were around at that time, and

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and and aris like, you know, I don't want any

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of them to know because if if we did, then

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they would kind of know our spot and we would

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you know, people would come in here and started waiting

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on us and might scare him a way or something.

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So uh, I kind of cap a lot of these things,

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you know, just within the group. And but I mean

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this has been this has been since the ninety three

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ninety four, in the middle middle nineties is when we

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used to go out. And so anyway that that is.

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That is all my experience that I've had of them.

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I know, there was one time I was up in

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the woods and we were just a lot of times

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we just go up there to camp. I love the mountains.

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I spent most of my time up there, and we

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were we were just on a hike, my family and

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I and uh. I was hiking down the trail and

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then I got off the trail and went down to

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the tree line because I went down there out of

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the out of the site, because I you know, I

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had to go down and use the restroom. So I

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wanted to get down out of the site. So I

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hiked way down to the bottom of there, and there

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was a coming back up. There was a there was

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a big stick that was laying beside a tree, and

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I was like, I wonder why somebody that hiked down

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here would leave their stick over there by the tree.

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So I picked it up and decided I was going

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to do a tree knock with it. And that tree knock,

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I mean it, it echoed and you can hear it

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all around, and you know that tree, it made an echo.

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And so I took that tree, or I took that stick,

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and I went over to another tree and I hit it,

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and it was just kind of like a thump. You know,

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there's no echo, just a thump. I went to another

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tree and I did the same thing. And all these

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trees around they weren't making any noise. It wasn't carrying out.

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But I went back to that same tree and I

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hit it, and you can just hear it just echo

457
00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:32.360
through the woods. And I don't know, but in my

458
00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:41.800
thinking and I thought about it, I'm like, I wonder

459
00:35:41.840 --> 00:35:44.239
if that might have that stick might have been left

460
00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:48.599
there by a bigfoot because that was that was a

461
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:51.119
stick they were using to bang on a train, and

462
00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:57.320
they like they they know what tree to hit to

463
00:35:57.440 --> 00:36:03.639
make nobodase carry out, just like I kind of figured

464
00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:06.320
out going long food there, I kind of figured out

465
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:13.920
you just don't go anywheres and make a scream. You can,

466
00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:16.559
but you got to kind of test areas. You've got

467
00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:21.199
to kind of know a good area to scream at

468
00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:25.559
to carry that scream throughout the woods, because it'll there,

469
00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:29.760
you'll you'll hit a spot that will eckle that throughout.

470
00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:37.440
And so that that's some of our experiences there.

471
00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:43.440
My goodness, that's some of the most. That's incredible. I

472
00:36:43.559 --> 00:36:47.760
had no idea any of this was coming from what

473
00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:53.519
you had provided. Those accounts are absolutely wild. Thank you

474
00:36:53.559 --> 00:36:56.079
for sharing those. It sounds like some of them for

475
00:36:56.159 --> 00:37:00.440
the first time. I definitely have a few questions for you.

476
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:02.639
You were in an actual research group. It sounds like,

477
00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:05.000
are any of the other members of that group still

478
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:05.440
with us.

479
00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:11.639
I haven't been in touch with them for a while there,

480
00:37:11.679 --> 00:37:17.679
and I've moved to Texas and so they're in Oregon

481
00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:25.559
and I haven't heard from any of them in a while.

482
00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:32.320
So I one one. One of them is ri in

483
00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:41.679
Us and then Mark Uh Santa Sklovsky. He was one

484
00:37:41.719 --> 00:37:47.239
of the guys. And there was just other ones that

485
00:37:47.360 --> 00:37:54.199
would come in that or would invite in, you know

486
00:37:54.280 --> 00:37:56.760
that he would get a hold of and and and

487
00:37:56.800 --> 00:38:02.800
invite in. We we had did stories through Western Bigfoot Society.

488
00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:06.840
We did go down there with them, but we never

489
00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:15.280
really did uh make it known, you know, to you know,

490
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:19.400
to anybody. We didn't try to put everything out there.

491
00:38:20.079 --> 00:38:25.360
And Uh Orihannes and trying to think of what his

492
00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:30.000
son's name is. Uh. They were the ones that did

493
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:36.760
the interview with UH with that finding Bigfoot, and they

494
00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:43.559
did an interview with them. I've done interviews before, you know,

495
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:50.599
kind of not this whole story that I'm telling, but

496
00:38:50.960 --> 00:38:54.719
I've done interviews. Like I said, the podcast that I

497
00:38:54.800 --> 00:39:00.000
did one time with Van Chase by the one and

498
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:05.440
and that was like in two thousand and seven, and

499
00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:08.599
that that guy was the one told me that it

500
00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:12.960
was that it was that it sounded like it was

501
00:39:13.079 --> 00:39:16.800
primates because of the way that it, you know, it acted.

502
00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:25.159
I living here for a while. I think it was

503
00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:30.199
like in two thousand and sixteen, I started talking with

504
00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:35.320
this one guy and he I think he's got camp

505
00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:45.360
fire tales or something like that. Curtis Curtis Jones. And

506
00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:48.599
we've been real good friends and I've known him for

507
00:39:48.639 --> 00:39:52.199
a while and I've told him about the story, and

508
00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:59.039
he'd asked me to relate that story. But other than that,

509
00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:02.360
I really had have not gone out and really made

510
00:40:02.440 --> 00:40:03.079
it public.

511
00:40:03.239 --> 00:40:08.000
Did you ever go out with any like Peter Burn

512
00:40:08.280 --> 00:40:12.199
or Henry Franzoni or any of those guys.

513
00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:21.760
I had Peter Burn when when we were first when

514
00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:25.800
we first started realizing that, you know, something was coming

515
00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:29.320
around the camp, and we went back in camp there

516
00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:37.559
and but we we called Peter Burn and we had

517
00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:40.880
him to come out there and check everything out. And

518
00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:44.760
he had told us he goes because we did get

519
00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:50.679
a picture of a footprint, and he told us he said, well,

520
00:40:50.760 --> 00:40:52.920
I don't think that's what it is. He says, I

521
00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:56.679
think it's just two feet somebody running around barefoot, and

522
00:40:56.719 --> 00:41:01.360
it's just two feet that birds together and makes it

523
00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:04.360
look wide and long. You know, they kind of slid

524
00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:07.400
down the hill. And it's like, no, it didn't look

525
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:11.519
like that. It was a it was an actual footprint.

526
00:41:11.639 --> 00:41:18.599
It didn't look like it slid anywhere, and so we felt,

527
00:41:19.559 --> 00:41:26.880
I don't know, I have bad I had bad things going,

528
00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:29.679
you know, with him and with what he was trying

529
00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:33.719
trying to make us look like like we didn't even

530
00:41:33.719 --> 00:41:36.519
know what we were saying or doing out there.

531
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:42.280
You know, that is unfortunate, but that stuff does happen. Yeah.

532
00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:49.000
Now I do know that those screams that you were

533
00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:56.320
there in California that happened in the seventies. What's that

534
00:41:56.360 --> 00:42:02.920
guy's name? Uh, you know he got the one that

535
00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:08.400
that they sound like they were talking about and forth. Yeah, Moorehead, yes,

536
00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:12.159
and he he he has been there with us in

537
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:17.880
our group. Ori invited him. I knew Ron moore ahead,

538
00:42:18.159 --> 00:42:22.800
and uh, I listened to some of his tapes. We've

539
00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:30.079
talked to Ron Moorehead the so that that was. That

540
00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:35.400
was one person I know that was. I didn't know

541
00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:39.119
how famous that guy was, and I didn't know anything,

542
00:42:39.280 --> 00:42:41.480
you know, I just knew that he was coming around,

543
00:42:41.639 --> 00:42:44.440
you know, and we'd go out with and somebody he

544
00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:49.199
come out with us, and so we would go out

545
00:42:49.239 --> 00:42:58.199
at night and that's when we would do our you know,

546
00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:02.800
our investigations. And it was funny there and this really

547
00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:10.360
you can try it and it happens is uh Ori

548
00:43:10.599 --> 00:43:16.800
was telling me that animals do not like red light there.

549
00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:22.119
It's not that they don't like it, they can't uh

550
00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:26.400
when they see it, they're not stunned by it like headlights,

551
00:43:26.480 --> 00:43:29.639
you know, a white light. You know, they get stunned

552
00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:34.960
by a deer in the headlights, you know. And uh,

553
00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:39.039
so I told Ari, I said, uh, what if I

554
00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:44.000
take some red silophane and put it over my headlights

555
00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:49.119
and make it red? And so I did that. I

556
00:43:49.239 --> 00:43:52.639
bought some I got up there into the mountains when

557
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:56.400
it was at dark, and I took that red silophane

558
00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:58.800
and I put it on my headlights and drove around

559
00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:03.440
and i'd have deer's come out, and a deer come

560
00:44:03.440 --> 00:44:05.320
out and just walk right in front of the road,

561
00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:08.920
right in front of me and kind of look over like,

562
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:12.519
you know. But it never did fase them. They just

563
00:44:12.599 --> 00:44:15.039
kind of look like, okay, there's something over there, you know,

564
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:19.519
and they'd look my direction. But it never did scare them.

565
00:44:19.559 --> 00:44:24.440
It never did. They just you know, but if you

566
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:29.079
put if you put red cellofin over your headlights, well

567
00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:31.559
you're driving around in the mountains in the in the dark,

568
00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:36.159
you'll see animals just they're not even fazed by those

569
00:44:36.239 --> 00:44:40.840
lights at all. So I don't know if you ever

570
00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:41.679
heard of that or.

571
00:44:41.639 --> 00:44:45.039
Not, but no, that's an incredible I've never heard that,

572
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:47.400
and I'd be curious if other people have tried that.

573
00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:50.920
But that is a really interesting idea and I like

574
00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:54.559
it for sure. Did you guys have a name for

575
00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:55.920
your group at all?

576
00:44:57.320 --> 00:45:00.000
No, we never had it. We never had a name.

577
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:03.639
Were just I never really had any money to do anything,

578
00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:09.840
uh Ori. You know, he had the money to go

579
00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:14.599
out and buy sound equipment, you know, to to pick

580
00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:21.079
up sound out in the woods. He bought cameras, infrared cameras,

581
00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:25.599
and uh that's how I kind of knew about what

582
00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:29.840
he was talking about with the with the red light,

583
00:45:29.880 --> 00:45:33.119
because with the infrared cameras, it gives off that red

584
00:45:33.239 --> 00:45:36.639
light and the animals weren't afraid of that infra red.

585
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:57.039
Big for Society will be right back after these messages, he.

586
00:45:57.159 --> 00:46:01.039
Said that I think it was the amp for red

587
00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:03.480
or something like that, because is he did say that

588
00:46:03.639 --> 00:46:06.639
if he could take a white light, you know, from

589
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:09.119
a camera, and you can put something red over it,

590
00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:14.639
that they that it never bothered them. They would come around.

591
00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:18.639
But with that white light. He said they would come around.

592
00:46:18.719 --> 00:46:20.480
So that that's why I thought, well, I'm going to

593
00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:26.159
put it on my headlights and uh so the anyway

594
00:46:26.199 --> 00:46:33.559
that that's what I started doing there, and uh so,

595
00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:43.239
but uh there's this all sorts of things that you know,

596
00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:46.760
we've we've done that. I've had other people talk about,

597
00:46:47.639 --> 00:46:51.639
you know, you can't do this, and you know it's

598
00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:54.400
at night. You know, you can only hunt them at night,

599
00:46:54.519 --> 00:46:56.920
and it's like, no, I've seen him. I've seen them

600
00:46:56.960 --> 00:47:01.599
during the daytime, you know, Like yeah, like I said,

601
00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:05.239
I had that one come running in on me and.

602
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:12.280
That that must have been incredible to experience that. Do

603
00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:16.239
you know if anyone still researches that Bigfoot camp area?

604
00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:22.880
I have no idea because I've since moved to Texas

605
00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:29.519
in two thousand and seven and so and I have

606
00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:33.000
no idea, but I know they probably are still around there,

607
00:47:33.079 --> 00:47:41.000
and we used to go down there and it's just

608
00:47:41.199 --> 00:47:46.079
like sometimes we would spend like a week at a

609
00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:53.639
time down there, and where they kind of get used

610
00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:57.320
to you. You see people come in and they set

611
00:47:57.400 --> 00:47:59.639
up a camp and they're only there for a couple

612
00:47:59.679 --> 00:48:04.320
of days, is when they start getting finally start getting

613
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:09.440
used to you. You know, you you pack up and

614
00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:14.000
you leave, and that's when the activity starts starts. You know,

615
00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:19.800
if you stay there longer, then once the activity starts

616
00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:27.360
ramping up, you know, then then then you're gonna you

617
00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:30.719
might you might not. You know, there's sometimes we did,

618
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:34.920
sometimes we didn't, but we kind of do that. You know,

619
00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:39.119
if we stayed there a little bit longer, we would

620
00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:43.360
have more of a chance. And I worked at a

621
00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:48.480
job at that time. I worked at driving school buses,

622
00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:52.280
so in the summer I would have off. So I

623
00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:56.000
spent a lot of my summer there around in that area.

624
00:48:57.840 --> 00:49:04.320
And we had one time we had our campers were

625
00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:06.880
on the back of our truck and we went there

626
00:49:06.920 --> 00:49:10.199
to that camp. There is that road and it kind

627
00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:15.280
of goes down a hill and another little spot. It's

628
00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:19.360
not very big, but Mark and I he had his

629
00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:21.840
camper and I had my camper. When we were kind

630
00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:28.199
of back to back down in there and lurs there

631
00:49:28.239 --> 00:49:36.000
at the campfire and sitting around talking and then all

632
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:39.960
of a sudden we had we had stuff being thrown

633
00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:44.360
at us from over the camper and it never did

634
00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:47.639
scare us. This was before I did all that screaming

635
00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:50.320
and stuff. But I mean even after that, it never

636
00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:54.679
really bothered me because we just, you know, figured they

637
00:49:54.679 --> 00:49:59.360
were playing with us. So we would have rocks and

638
00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:03.159
we would have things throwed at us and they wouldn't

639
00:50:03.199 --> 00:50:05.639
hit us. If they wanted to hit us, they would have.

640
00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:11.800
And so then all of a sudden, we were sitting

641
00:50:11.800 --> 00:50:14.679
there and I mean it was a big size chunk

642
00:50:14.719 --> 00:50:17.119
of log that we had sitting over there where we

643
00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:22.320
had our firewood at and that thing come flying over

644
00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:27.039
top of us, landed between this one Lady Mary and

645
00:50:27.119 --> 00:50:32.159
I landed right between us, and we just turned around

646
00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:34.159
and we just said, is that all you got? You're

647
00:50:34.159 --> 00:50:37.960
going to throw any more? And it never did bother us,

648
00:50:38.039 --> 00:50:41.239
you know, but if it wanted to take that log

649
00:50:41.320 --> 00:50:43.760
and throw it over top of the camper and hit us,

650
00:50:44.519 --> 00:50:48.760
it could have, you know, but we knew that it

651
00:50:48.840 --> 00:50:52.079
was just it had to be playing because it landed

652
00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:55.480
right in between us. You know, we had pine combs

653
00:50:55.519 --> 00:51:04.320
thrown at us and they wouldn't hurt us or anything.

654
00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:07.679
You know, it just you know, if we did have

655
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:10.320
a rock throat at us, it wouldn't hit as hard.

656
00:51:10.920 --> 00:51:15.480
And you know, if they wanted to hurt us. They

657
00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:18.159
would have, you know, you could tell it was just

658
00:51:18.239 --> 00:51:26.679
playing around. And so, but there was a spot before

659
00:51:26.760 --> 00:51:32.599
that Bigfoot camp, there was a spot before getting up there.

660
00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:38.519
We camped in there one time, Mark and I did

661
00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:44.079
in my family, and we went down. Mark and I

662
00:51:44.159 --> 00:51:46.800
went down to the creek during the day and when

663
00:51:46.840 --> 00:51:52.840
we came back out, something had walked through there. Because

664
00:51:53.679 --> 00:51:56.880
the trees, you can see water was dripping from the

665
00:51:56.920 --> 00:52:00.119
trees about seven eight foot up in the air. You

666
00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:04.960
can tell something wet had moved through there. And so

667
00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:09.880
Mark and night during the day or during the evening

668
00:52:10.159 --> 00:52:15.360
the night, probably about around ten o'clock or so, we

669
00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:19.199
walked down that little road and back off in that

670
00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:23.920
way and we got chased then by something. We didn't

671
00:52:23.960 --> 00:52:26.719
see it, we could hear it running up after us,

672
00:52:26.800 --> 00:52:29.320
and we took off running and went back to the

673
00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:35.360
camp where a camper was at. And so it was

674
00:52:35.440 --> 00:52:39.119
like there was one down there, but it was it

675
00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:43.159
was aggressive. But the ones up there by the Bigfoot camp,

676
00:52:43.239 --> 00:52:47.840
it's like they never did they never did bothers. And

677
00:52:47.960 --> 00:52:56.199
so we kind of got to figuring that out too.

678
00:52:56.360 --> 00:53:02.000
Is that, you know? Is that so we got kind

679
00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:05.880
of figuring out too, is that there was there was

680
00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:11.079
groups of them in places that were some of them

681
00:53:11.079 --> 00:53:14.079
were aggressive and some of them they weren't. And I

682
00:53:14.119 --> 00:53:18.079
don't know why, you know, I don't know why. Some

683
00:53:18.199 --> 00:53:21.639
of them were like they wanted to play around, play

684
00:53:21.679 --> 00:53:28.280
around and just you know, but I've heard people say, oh,

685
00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:30.800
I got pine cone throwed at me, and it's like

686
00:53:31.239 --> 00:53:33.760
sometimes all they want to do is they just want

687
00:53:33.760 --> 00:53:36.639
to scare you off from where you're at there, Well

688
00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:41.760
they got gun hurt chief unless you're provoking. And that's

689
00:53:41.840 --> 00:53:45.159
that's the thing is like I got provoked that one time,

690
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:48.960
and I mean I provoked thatt one, so I can't

691
00:53:49.920 --> 00:53:54.880
that's all I'm mean, you know. And so I like

692
00:53:55.000 --> 00:54:00.760
that one that screamed that it shook the ground. I

693
00:54:00.800 --> 00:54:03.320
don't know if that was the same one that chased

694
00:54:03.360 --> 00:54:05.840
me or what, or if it was a different one,

695
00:54:06.000 --> 00:54:11.320
but that was kind of like it was my indication

696
00:54:11.480 --> 00:54:23.440
to leave, and so you know, I kind of we

697
00:54:23.639 --> 00:54:26.239
kind of figured that out too. You know, I'm not

698
00:54:26.320 --> 00:54:29.480
really that's even after being chased, I'm not really that

699
00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:30.840
afraid of them.

700
00:54:31.000 --> 00:54:31.280
You know.

701
00:54:31.960 --> 00:54:38.639
Yeah, it did traumatize me, but it didn't traumatize me.

702
00:54:38.760 --> 00:54:43.559
But I you know, I'm not. I'm not like I

703
00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:46.639
want to go back at there's places around. I had

704
00:54:46.679 --> 00:54:49.400
a friend of mine, just or one of the guys

705
00:54:49.480 --> 00:54:53.239
I worked with, said they went to Broken Boat, Oklahoma,

706
00:54:53.480 --> 00:54:56.920
and they said there's a lot of them there, And

707
00:54:57.400 --> 00:54:59.960
I want to go up there here, either East Tech

708
00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:04.360
or over in that area. I want to go over

709
00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:07.119
there and try to see if I can find anything.

710
00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:10.199
Oh, you look for him, you'd be able to find

711
00:55:10.639 --> 00:55:13.400
a lot of stuff. I have a few more questions

712
00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:16.280
about Oregon. I know that we've been talking for quite

713
00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:18.159
a while, but I do want to make sure I

714
00:55:18.199 --> 00:55:23.039
asked these You mentioned there was a recording of the scream?

715
00:55:23.079 --> 00:55:26.000
Do you know anyone who would be in possession of

716
00:55:26.039 --> 00:55:28.119
that or do you think it's probably a thing that

717
00:55:28.199 --> 00:55:29.280
might be lost to time.

718
00:55:31.159 --> 00:55:34.599
I had one, but I lost it. But Ori might

719
00:55:34.679 --> 00:55:39.199
have one if not, if you were able to get

720
00:55:39.239 --> 00:55:41.599
a hold of Ori, if you were to find him,

721
00:55:44.280 --> 00:55:46.239
if you were able to get a hold of him,

722
00:55:46.440 --> 00:55:49.840
he would tell you because he had turned those screams

723
00:55:49.920 --> 00:55:53.679
and stuff what he had had. I think either it

724
00:55:53.880 --> 00:56:01.320
was a college in some kind of research place there

725
00:56:01.440 --> 00:56:03.119
in Oregon, and.

726
00:56:03.119 --> 00:56:06.199
Uh Okay, So I'm gonna try to track them down.

727
00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:11.000
Did you ever have any research that happened in the

728
00:56:11.039 --> 00:56:14.360
Oakridge area or willam At National Forest or hear any

729
00:56:14.440 --> 00:56:16.960
bigfoot activity from the Oakridge area.

730
00:56:19.639 --> 00:56:27.519
Oak Bridge whereas Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Uh

731
00:56:28.119 --> 00:56:38.800
the Wilamite, the Wilamotte, I did, uh, I had. I've

732
00:56:38.840 --> 00:56:43.840
had places there because of the Willamite National Forest is

733
00:56:44.000 --> 00:56:48.800
just right close, you know, the round well the Malala

734
00:56:49.079 --> 00:56:52.840
the Malala River area. That that's all I think in

735
00:56:52.840 --> 00:56:56.920
in Uh. I think that's part of the Wilamite. I'm

736
00:56:56.960 --> 00:57:01.159
not really for sure. I know it's closed. Uh. I've

737
00:57:01.159 --> 00:57:05.599
had experiences up toward s Takata, which is a little

738
00:57:05.599 --> 00:57:11.920
bit further over toward the Mountpood area. I've had over

739
00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:17.519
in there. I've had uh, I've had places over there,

740
00:57:23.039 --> 00:57:28.159
trying to think, uh the Abafall which is over towards

741
00:57:28.159 --> 00:57:32.840
Silver Creek Falls in that area, we've we've gone over

742
00:57:32.920 --> 00:57:38.119
there and we've had we've had activity over in there,

743
00:57:38.320 --> 00:57:42.039
tree breaks and trees that were snapped off real high

744
00:57:42.159 --> 00:57:50.719
up in there. And uh, Orion some of their friends

745
00:57:50.760 --> 00:57:55.320
they did they did a research or whatever. They went

746
00:57:55.400 --> 00:57:58.800
over there and they camped out there in the Albiflat

747
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:06.639
and they had one surrounding their camp and uh, I

748
00:58:06.719 --> 00:58:09.320
can't remember when he said. He said, it got kind

749
00:58:09.320 --> 00:58:12.440
of violin over there, so they had to end up

750
00:58:12.519 --> 00:58:24.159
leaving and uh and uh, Mark and I we went

751
00:58:24.400 --> 00:58:28.119
back during the day and that road was all cut off.

752
00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:33.000
It was uh uh trenched out. But we had to

753
00:58:33.039 --> 00:58:35.559
walk about a mile back in there where that camp

754
00:58:35.719 --> 00:58:43.400
was that they had that they had had and uh

755
00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:48.159
we walked back there and it started getting dark and

756
00:58:48.239 --> 00:58:52.880
we started noticing something was over there and we started

757
00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:56.119
walking back and it started following us. And then Mark

758
00:58:56.280 --> 00:58:59.880
was getting scared and he was sayings and like I

759
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:02.199
think it's fallering this and this and that, and I

760
00:59:02.320 --> 00:59:05.320
told Mark, I go just shut up. I said, we

761
00:59:05.480 --> 00:59:08.079
still got about a half mile to go to the vehicle.

762
00:59:08.119 --> 00:59:11.559
And I said, I don't want to think about it. So,

763
00:59:12.239 --> 00:59:15.119
I mean, the more I thought about it, the more

764
00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:17.639
my heart was beating, you know, because I didn't know

765
00:59:17.679 --> 00:59:20.719
what this thing was going to do, you know. So

766
00:59:26.599 --> 00:59:30.000
but that, yeah, that that and the applepha is in

767
00:59:30.519 --> 00:59:33.559
like the Willam National Forest area.

768
00:59:35.440 --> 00:59:41.159
So but there's one last question I want to ask,

769
00:59:43.480 --> 00:59:47.760
just because I need I need to because I kind

770
00:59:47.760 --> 00:59:53.960
of a journalist, but not really right. So the Bigfoot Camp.

771
00:59:54.559 --> 01:00:00.679
Is it a thing where you would ever share any

772
01:00:00.719 --> 01:00:05.519
more details about, like is it near a certain recreation

773
01:00:05.719 --> 01:00:12.440
area or because the Malala River is a pretty long river? Yeah,

774
01:00:12.559 --> 01:00:15.000
would that be anything where you'd be willing to share

775
01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:22.480
more information about where the Bigfoot Camp is located? Uh?

776
01:00:22.840 --> 01:00:24.800
Yeah, i'd share on it.

777
01:00:26.440 --> 01:00:28.440
Would that be an off air thing or.

778
01:00:29.960 --> 01:00:37.239
No, it's it's where that's at. It's it's it's uh

779
01:00:37.840 --> 01:00:43.960
oh out by like outside of Malala, the town of Malala,

780
01:00:45.039 --> 01:00:52.360
and uh kind of go toward Dicky Ferry and I

781
01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:56.199
think you take a right and then the road runs

782
01:00:56.239 --> 01:00:59.000
off out that way and there's a there's like another

783
01:00:59.079 --> 01:01:07.760
road that that splits off. Finally got probably about eight

784
01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:11.199
miles down that or up that road until you get

785
01:01:11.280 --> 01:01:16.199
to the Big Quick Camp. So, I mean it doesn't

786
01:01:16.679 --> 01:01:18.039
it doesn't really bother me.

787
01:01:18.079 --> 01:01:23.280
Any So this is anywhere sorry, this is an unmarked area.

788
01:01:23.440 --> 01:01:25.760
I mean, it's not like by a recreation area. This

789
01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:27.800
is just your going on forest roads.

790
01:01:28.199 --> 01:01:32.719
Yeah, it's just run forest roads. It's where the Bigwick

791
01:01:32.960 --> 01:01:35.840
area is at what we call the Big Pick Camp.

792
01:01:36.960 --> 01:01:44.119
It's it's uh, it's all it's all of a paved road.

793
01:01:44.239 --> 01:01:47.360
I mean, it doesn't have any stripes or anything like that,

794
01:01:47.480 --> 01:01:51.400
but it's paid. It's just not too far down from

795
01:01:51.440 --> 01:01:54.719
that road, about a mile two miles down it turns

796
01:01:54.760 --> 01:01:57.480
into gravel. It splits off by a bridge, and it

797
01:01:57.639 --> 01:01:58.599
turns into gravel.

798
01:02:03.320 --> 01:02:12.840
Okay, yeah, I see South Dicky Prairie Road. You were saying, Yeah, okay, interesting. Well,

799
01:02:12.840 --> 01:02:16.079
maybe there'll be someone who knows the area well enough

800
01:02:16.119 --> 01:02:18.639
to use that information to check it out. I don't know,

801
01:02:19.119 --> 01:02:23.679
we'll see, yeah, but yeah, I appreciate you you sharing that,

802
01:02:24.920 --> 01:02:27.159
and if there are people already checking out that area,

803
01:02:27.199 --> 01:02:30.519
I'd love to talk to you as well. But Okay,

804
01:02:32.360 --> 01:02:36.880
this has been an incredible chat. I mean, I guess

805
01:02:37.119 --> 01:02:39.400
since you're the only person I've ever talked to who

806
01:02:39.440 --> 01:02:43.599
has been chased by a bigfoot and survived, would you

807
01:02:43.719 --> 01:02:48.239
consider these creatures to be more like an ape creature

808
01:02:48.599 --> 01:02:50.960
or some kind of human creature. What was it that

809
01:02:51.000 --> 01:02:53.599
you you got from them while they were chasing.

810
01:02:53.239 --> 01:02:59.639
You in May? They are like a big gorilla or

811
01:02:59.719 --> 01:03:04.159
big big eight for like a big eight or something

812
01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:09.360
like that. Like I said, I know, really I never

813
01:03:09.400 --> 01:03:12.400
really got a full look in there in that one

814
01:03:12.679 --> 01:03:15.239
space when it chased me, because I think I was

815
01:03:15.400 --> 01:03:21.679
more traumatized that really get full detail of what it

816
01:03:21.760 --> 01:03:31.599
looked like. And so but I see him as being

817
01:03:31.639 --> 01:03:34.000
a big primate is what I see him as. Man.

818
01:03:38.440 --> 01:03:43.400
Gotcha, Well, you have some fascinating accounts and I'm so

819
01:03:43.519 --> 01:03:48.079
glad that I talked to you. Ed really are I mean,

820
01:03:48.119 --> 01:03:50.599
you reached out out of nowhere, and I'm glad you did.

821
01:03:52.199 --> 01:03:57.360
If you do remember any more information or any other

822
01:03:57.400 --> 01:04:01.239
things that you want to share it at a later time,

823
01:04:01.280 --> 01:04:04.280
I would love to talk to you again. But thank

824
01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:06.320
you so much for and if you ever have any

825
01:04:06.960 --> 01:04:10.119
you know, questions about Oklahoma or Texas. I do have

826
01:04:10.159 --> 01:04:13.079
some information about that. We can always talk later about that.

827
01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:16.000
But that would be fun if you were able to

828
01:04:16.159 --> 01:04:17.800
get involved down where you're at now.

829
01:04:19.360 --> 01:04:25.039
Yeah, okay, all right, Well thanks a lot for the

830
01:04:25.079 --> 01:04:31.679
interview and everything, and I appreciate you, know, being able

831
01:04:31.719 --> 01:04:32.239
to do this.

832
01:04:32.880 --> 01:04:36.000
Everything, Yes, sir, and I'll be I'll be in touch.

833
01:04:36.039 --> 01:04:37.519
I'll let you know if i'm able. I'm going to

834
01:04:37.599 --> 01:04:41.360
try to track down this this ory guy. We'll see

835
01:04:41.400 --> 01:04:45.039
if you're still around, I'll let you know. But all right,

836
01:04:45.199 --> 01:04:47.559
all right, thank you for chatting today, ed you have

837
01:04:47.599 --> 01:04:52.559
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