Cherokee Bigfoot of Northeast Oklahoma

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on with the show, all right,

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Bigfoot Society. I've got the privilege
of talking to Yohola Tiger. He's the

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host of the war Cry podcast and
he's a member of the Cherokee Nation and

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also of Muskegee Creek descent. How's
it going tonight, Jehola, I'm pretty

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good man. I'm just you know, hanging out doing you know, just

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doing you know, doing stuff,
spooky stuff, you know, kind of

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I love talking about spooky stuff,
so you know, that's why we're here,

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but I appreciate you having me.
Oh absolutely, I've been wanting to

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talk to you for a while.
So I'm glad that this, uh finally

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worked out. And you're you're also
from the great state of Oklahoma. Correct,

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beautiful, Yes, beautiful state of
Oklahoma. Born and raised Turkey res.

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You know, lived a lot of
my life on the Cherokee res and

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then you know, moved my way
over to my other side, to my

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Muskogee Creek side, and yeah,
Oklahoma, man, you know all you

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know, all different types of things
going on. But but yeah, man,

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it's a beautiful place. Fantastic And
a lot of my listeners will know

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that about Oklahoma because they know more
of probably the southeast section. There's some

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some wild bigfoot stuff that that goes
on over there. But if you could

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let us know contact wise when or
context wise what part of the Oklahoma you

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know on a map? Are we
talking more western side, eastern? Whereabouts

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we're in? Uh? So,
I'm from northeast Oklahoma, that's uh kind

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of So Tallaqua is the is the
capital of the Cherokee Nation, and it's

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located i'd said, probably about thirty
minutes from the Arkansas border up in kind

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of up in the northeast Oklahoma,
and it's people people, you know.

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It's one thing too that I guess
people don't really you know, it really

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don't. I don't want to say
give the northeast credit. But there's a

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lot of there's a lot of woods, a lot of hills up in the

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northeast, and so there's all types
of stuff going on in in in northeast

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Oklahoma. Absolutely, How far away
from the Wachitas are you, man,

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that's a great question. I'm gonna
have to pull out my my ninth grade

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geography book. I would say,
Well, so that's what I'm thinking.

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Probably maybe an hour and a half
maybe all right, all right, maybe

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more man. Like I said,
I my geography is not is not what

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it used to be. It's cool, it's cool the northeast. I've talked

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to a lot of people from southeast. Of course, I've talked to a

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gentleman from the west. The western
Oklahoma has some crazy stuff too, But

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now it sounds like we may have
some action going on in the northeast as

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well. But we were talking earlier
and we're talking about that. You have

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had some you've heard of some Bigfoot
related things over the years. And you

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know, we've mentioned already that you're
a member of the Cherokee Nation. Has

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have you grown up then hearing about
Bigfoot over the years or when did that

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start to kind of come into your
your life that you remember, Man,

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it's it's been in my entire life, you know. My first my first

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thought, in my first really core
memory of Bigfoot was I might have been

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six or seven years old, my
dad. So if you, if you

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guys, if you people are listening, when you're driving into tallc wall on

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the right hand side, there's a
big old casino now well back, you

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know twenty you know, twenty five
years ago, it used to just be

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a pastor and there used to be
a golf course on the other side of

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that of that pastor. And I
remember one of my first stories I ever

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heard as a young buck was my
dad's best friend was driving home one night

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and he kind of saw something up
at the on the right hand side of

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the road, and he looked,
he said, what is that? When

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he just kept drying his eyes,
probably dear, I'll slow down, and

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so he you know, kept coasting
and he eventually passed this what you know,

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what he could see, it was
just so dark. There's no lights

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out there. And when he hit
his brakes when he was passing this this

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thing, all he saw was a
was a hairy arm and basically a harry

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I'd say, maybe a quad and
he hit it, you know, he

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hit his brakes and that light hit
it, and that thing scurried off into

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that pasture and you know he didn't
see anything, but he took off.

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You know. One thing that about
that story that you know, has come

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full circle now twenty twenty twenty twenty
three, I talked to my my dad's

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best friend. I said, hey, you remember telling me that story when

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I was a little guy. And
he goes, no, I don't really

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remember that. He's like, what, he's a when did I tell you

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that? I said, well,
you told me, you know one time

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when we were, you know,
all hanging out and he was, you

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know, playing guitar with my dad. And he goes, I don't remember

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that. And about about a week
later he goes, yeah, man,

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he's like I sat and thought about
said I do remember that. Because now

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that road is, you know,
as a heavily traveled road and it's not

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really secluded like it used to be. But you know, and you know

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Cherokee Nation, you know, and
I don't want to speak for all Cherokees.

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I won't speak for all Creeks either, all you know, really tribes

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in general. It you know,
there's different types of these things, and

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there's some that make you forget.
And I'm not gonna say the name,

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because if you say the name,
you're gonna call it. But they make

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you forget and sometimes almost like you
know, like Men in Black where they

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hit you with that thing and you're
like your your mind's raced, and then

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you have you know, you don't
remember, and he goes, I think

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that's what happened to me, because
he's I was so scared, you know,

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I just don't remember, you know, And then I then I guess

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he traveled down that road or I
don't know how I remembered. But then

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he was like, man, I
remember that. He said that thing had

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to be like nine foot tall,
because you know, he was sitting in

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this car and you know, all
he saw was basically a thigh. You

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know, you know, if you
see a thigh in the winch, in

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the in the back glass, you
know that has to be pretty tall.

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And but you know there's all types
of those stories that come around in that

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area and to kind of know,
be long winded, that's kind of how

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we are, you know it kind
of Indians would be like that, but

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you know it's I've been I've been
hearing stories and I've experienced things in my

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life where you know, it's it's
been my entire life, your whole lie.

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I want to go back to something
you said really quick, and I

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don't want to go too deep into
it because it's obvious that we don't want

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to. But if you want to
address it, it says you said something

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to the effect of we don't want
to call it, and can you explain

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what that means without I guess we
don't want to do what it is that

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you would refer to, but kind
of what that would mean where we don't

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want to call it. So what
I mean by is so there's multiple things

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that that Sasquatch and Bigfoot can do
that we, as you know, human

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beings, sometimes don't understand. Trying
to put this in a context that makes

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this digestible, I guess you could
say, but essentially what they what they

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can do is, you know,
there's always been this Native American medicine or

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magic or shamanism is what some people
out west call it. They do those

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things too, and it's a superstitious
thing. But when you talk about these

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things, there's a certain energy that
comes with that. It's like an intention

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thing. But when you when you
talk about and that's why when you when

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we talk about a lot of things
in native culture, we use like we'll

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use and I'll say the name because
I'll smoke off after this smoke And by

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the way, smoke off means with
cedar and things like that for people that

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aren't that don't know those things.
You know, you know, doctor ceedar.

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But wait, wait, wait,
wait, is this can affect the

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listeners though? No, no,
no, no, it's okay, yeah,

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no, no, I mean it
shouldn't. Now. I'd always if

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any time you anytime that someone's talking
about different things, I you know,

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especially when it comes to Bigfoot,
even talking about Bigfoot, you know that

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you're still talking about him. You
know, you could just you know,

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still, you know, do what
you gotta do. You know, I

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do my certain things. People do
their own things. You could pray.

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But but that's kind of what I
mean by that was, is when you

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use their name there's a certain you
know, old way name that you use,

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I know, the creek name,
and and you know, they they

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can they can come to your dreams. You know, they can come you

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know in physical you know, there's
just different ways that that you know,

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these things can come to you and
that, like I said it and it

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could be anything too. It could
just be it could just be energy.

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You could just have bad love,
you know, just and it's you know,

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and I'm really talking generally. I
know there's probably some people out there

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like, oh, he's talking crazy
right now. But but yeah, that's

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kind of what I mean by by
you don't want we don't want to call

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it by its name. I absolutely
understand. Yeah, I definitely want to

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respect that. In your area of
Oklahoma in the northeast, have you found

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that most sasquax sightings will occur around
the reservation or is it kind of it's

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all over the place, It doesn't
have to be specifically just in the actual

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reservation area. Well, I mean, if we're so all the reservations,

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so there's like I said, there's
a five civil lives that take up the

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eastern part of the state. I
don't want to get political or anything but

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I just you know, that's just
kind of how that's divided up, you

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know, and now with you know, kind of federal type things going on.

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But but it happens all over the
place, you know. I have

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heard stories from different people up in
kind of northern I'd say, probably north

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central kind of I'd say probably north
of Oklahoma City. You know, there's

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been stories up there of of them
kind of hanging out around, you know,

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at a pow wow. You know, they'll be at the tree line

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and or at the stomp grounds.
They'll be out there. Because a lot

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of those grounds, so especially stomp
Grounds, are near water. You have

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to you know, you got to
make sure you have water around when you're

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when you're doing those things. And
you know, you know a lot of

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people say that they travel by water, and there's different, various opinions on

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that. But but like I said, they're all over the place, you

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know, in Oklahoma, I think
I tried to ask somebody, you know,

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kind of ilder. I said,
hey, many, how many think

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there is? And they gave me
a you know, a number, like

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a thousand or something like that.
I was just like, man, that's

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kind of a lot, Like that's
kind of a lot. But you know,

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I've I have people that reach out
to me, you know, about

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every week, you know, telling
me, hey, I saw something over

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here and Concho, Oklahoma, or
I saw something over here and Anadarko,

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or I saw something over here and
Hugo. You know, it's all over

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the place here in Oklahoma. Oklahoma
has incredible big Foot stories. And I'm

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not going to mention the name of
the group, but man, there's this

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one Facebook group about like Oklahoma big
Foot Stories. Oh my goodness. It's

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a smaller one, and if you're
in it, you know what I'm you

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know what I'm referring to, because
it's kind of like it's a fight club

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type thing if you're in it.
But oh man, you guys have some

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wild stuff down there. Do you
think there's a reason what, you know,

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Oklahoma just it feels like there's so
much I don't know how to say.

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I would say, you know,
like maybe aggressive sasquatch stories or sightings.

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Do you think there's a reason why
there's so many in that state or

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is that something you've ever thought about? I mean, I have, you

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know, I've I've heard some pretty
aggressive encounters just here in the last I'd

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say probably month. I was told
a story about out kind of in a

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darko Oklahoma and a guy was,
you know, he had his animals out

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there, and he had shot at
it, and this thing had killed every

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seat and eight killed. After he
shot it. The next morning he went

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out there and every single one of
his animals was gone, perished. And

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I also wonder if it correlates with
kind of how Oklahoma is and just in

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general, how we kind of are, you know, we kind of kind

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of aggressive people a little bit.
You know, if you you know,

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if you if you you know,
if you if you treat us, you

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know, treat people with respect,
you're gonna be all right. But once

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it comes to you know, you
disrespecting people, you know, it can

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get physical or it can. And
I'm wondering if if those things kind of

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mimic that energy, you know,
when people come in, you know,

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like all the time, this land
that hasn't been touched in a lot of

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years or ever maybe is being inhabitated
by people with a lot of money,

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and they're they're moving up to these
hills and these mountains and you know some

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of these valleys and you know,
just speaking from experience, there was a

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guy out and you follow who who
who bought some land at the bottom of

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this this infamous place that is known
for bigfoot, Like it's known. There's

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there's c there's like it's not catacombs, but it's more like caves. But

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the there's caves out there in this
kind of this little cliffic. You know.

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land out there, and you know,

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I'm always wondering if he's all right. You know, he's like, man,

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you you bought land, and you
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no one is ever inhabited. And
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So that's very intriguing to me.
That's a that's an area that I don't

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think has come up. Yeah,
and it's you know, I'm looking it

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up on a map and it's so
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you fallow, Oklahoma. It's almost
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this huge lake or it's just it's
really interesting area. I need to look

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more into that well you fallow,
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and made. And one thing that
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there there's been talks of an octopus
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lake. In that lake, I
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people talking about giant snakes in that
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mythical. I guess you'd say mythical, but you know native, you know,

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in our native culture, and there's
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of it too, I think was
when they made that lake, there was

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a lot a lot of stomp grounds
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of habitat that these beings, these
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you when you when you kind of
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know, kind of do something.
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and you follow. There was one
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things out there. We were having
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talked. That's how we kind of
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know, different stories, and it
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sometimes and trying to you know,
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were all out there and we were
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something big ran through, I mean, mowing down all this rush and his

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trees and it's thick out there,
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to the tree line and it and
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a single sound in that whole clearing. It was like no birds, nothing,

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no crickets. It was like the
alpha. It was like the alpha

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predator came. It was you know, heard its name being called and it

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you know, had to see what
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that's one thing that's you know,
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it's it's very very intriguing to me. That's why I can I continue to

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gather stories and information. And you
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big foot. Oh absolutely. And
this is something you've mentioned a few times,

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and I'd like you to kind of
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it means, because I'm just not
familiar with the term, and there might

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be some listeners as well. Can
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So it's a ceremonial grounds, so
so stomp grounds kind of slang,

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but but sits ceremonial grounds, and
so ceremonial grounds are in specific areas and

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in kind of an origin story,
especially for the Creeks back in the old

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days when when we were being removed, we had fire, and the fire

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guided us to our home here in
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people in the tribe that would basically
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we didn't lose you know who we are,

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and you know that goes into a
whole different other thing. But wherever

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that fire landed, you had to
you had to harness it, and you

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had to make sure it was taken
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it is where your grounds were,
Where your ceremonial grounds where, which is

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for your your praising the creator and
and and thanking the creator for what you

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you know, what you've done,
and you're you know, we're asking for

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healing or whatever it needs to be
done in those in those times. That's

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that's so interesting. It has parallels
to the Old Testament almost. Yeah,

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it's yeah, it's that's what I'm
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so taking about history. Man,
it's like almost like it kind of repeats

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itself almost a little bit. Yeah, or it almost has a similar story

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but in different fonts. You know, like it's so so weird the more

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you look into things and more that
you look into different cultures, and yeah,

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that's a that's a that could be
a whole other discussion. So talking

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about the stomp grounds, so you're
saying that the uh, when they created

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that lake, they they took over
some stomp grounds. So I could definitely

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understand how that could be. That
is a terrible thing to do. But

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you mentioned the giant snakes, So
how how large were these snakes that were

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being seen in this lake? Anywhere
from the size of a worm to the

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size of a I don't know,
maybe fifty feet. I'll tell you,

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I'll tell you a very interesting story. So I have a cousin who he's

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uh, he's kind of funny,
but he's real, he's real, big

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into He probably listened to the show, Hey cousin, what's going on?

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maps and you know how sometimes you
can kind of you know, get real

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close and see things and you can
kind of see outlines. Well the drone

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or whatever, whoever takes those pictures
of that. Google Maps caught one of

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those snakes going into the lake and
you know he was trying to do the

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pencil markers and it was just just
the back end of the snake was like

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twenty two feet, you know,
as he was kind of trying to figure

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it out. But these snakes have
power. They have How I say this

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is one of my favorite angle,
lot of my favorite mythic, my favorite

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being my native being that I love
to talk about. Are these snakes born

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and raised in Taq, Oklahoma.
We have the Illinois River and these and

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you know, these things are known
to cause floods, and the Illinois has

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flooded multiple times because of people not
taking care of that water. The same

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thing with you, you fall of
that that lake has flooded multiple times over

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the years because people just aren't taking
care of it. But what but what

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these snakes are is is they you
know, they they are the keying of

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the water. They take care of
the water. They make sure people take

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care of it. When it's not
being taken care of, they take manage

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into their own hands. One thing
about Oklahoma, I'm sorry, we're deviating

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off man. Now let's go for
it. We're good man, let's go.

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And one thing that is very well
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lot of drownings, you know.
And that's one thing that you know,

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I see the newspapers all time like, oh, how how does people keep

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drowning? Oh? They must be
just drinking too much. But it's strange

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that it's a lot of kids,
younger people. You hardly ever see anybody

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old, you know, drowning.
Maybe someone in their thirties. Maybe that's

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not really that old. But but
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credit these snakes and I do personally
to taking these people because maybe you know,

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not saying it's sacrifice, but you
know, it's you know, that's

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the game you play when you you
disrespect nature. And in the water,

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absolutely, it's it's not a thing
that you get multiple chances with you I've

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got to respect it for sure.
Speaking of the water, you also mentioned

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the octopus. Is that you know
you hear people talk about the Oklahoma octopus.

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Is that the same thing or is
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And crazy story that I heard from
somebody out of out of you follow

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and I've also heard kind of murmurs
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think is the other one that I've
heard things from. But I had I

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had somebody telling me that basically they
saw one run across the road this major

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highway broad daylight. It was a
small one, which I thought, I

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mean, I was like, that's
kind of crazy, you know, I

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don't you know, do you believe
it? You know, sometimes you kind

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of like people will just, you
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story to get on the podcast.
I don't know, but but I thought

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it was pretty interesting. But the
Oklahoma octopus has been around for, you

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know, quite a long time.
There was a guy and I cannot remember

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his name at the top of my
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these lakes to being that that creature, that being. And when I say

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being, you know, it's a
it's a it's it's more than just a

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creature, is what I'm is what
I'm getting to. It's more it's more

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of like a you know, people
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mythical beings or these mythical entities,
and that's kind of what I'm I'm referring

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to. If you ever hear me
when I say being these things are or

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not they're not of this world or
they're not of the normal world that we

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know, totally understand when you so
when you refer to Sasquatch. And the

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thing about the show is that there's
many different viewpoints about what the creature is,

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and I'd like to think that we
I talked to many different viewpoints through

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people. When you're referring to to
Bigfoot yourself, what is in your mind

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or what's your definition of the creature
when you're referring to Bigfoot man? That's

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a So that's a great question.
I've I've asked people that same question,

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and I always find it very intriguing. My opinion of it, though,

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is kind of it's kind of a
weird one. So I think that they

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are. I think that they are, and I don't want to say a

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set of people and I don't not
human is what It's not what I'm It's

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not what I'm trying to say.
A lot of Cherokees believe that they're a

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secret tribe and that they exist when
they want to, when they want to

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be seen and they want to be
known that they're there. A story that

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I had come across as a young
guy out of so I used to go

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to a cultural camp during the summer
times at Sequoia High School in Talentquall and

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I heard a story from an elder
that he said that they look like humans,

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but they are just hairy and they
got beards, but they're like super

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tall. He described this, this
this Sasquatch of this bigfoot to being about

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nine foot tall with a beard.
They had a like it looked like a

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human face, but they had a
here and he called it a person.

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And when I, you know,
growing up in my mind, I envisioned

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that and I think of I think
of, you know, if if they

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are people or if they're in I
know there's a theory out there they're interdimendal,

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interdimensional beings. I know that people
think that they're possibly you know,

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a shape shifter or I've heard that, you know, I've heard different things,

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and in my opinion, I think
that they're I think that there are

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another set of you know, like
a tribe, and it's not a people

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it's a tribe of beings like they
do that they they they have ways and

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methods to remain undetected. And I
go back to talking about like native medicine

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or native magic or shamanism. You
know, I'm Native American, but I

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don't. I don't practice that stuff. I don't. I don't practice those

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things much like and I have that
same thought when it comes to sasquatch is.

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Not all of them practice the ability
to disappear. Not all of them

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practice the ability to look like a
stump, you know, like some stories

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you hear all people's you know,
I heard a story one time somebody basically

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sat on it, didn't even thought
it was a stump. They were just

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kind of hiking. Next they know
the stump was moving, you know.

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I you know, I believe that
they if they want to be seen,

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they will be seen. And they
use these different methods in these different old

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ways, is what I call it. But it's like you know, these

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herbs and these use different you know, methods, you know, to be

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seen or not to be seen.
So I think that they're I think that

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they are of this world. But
it's it's hard to describe, you know,

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what's of this world, you know
absolutely? Do you know the stories

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that you've heard from your area and
you've talked to many different people over the

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years, are our orbs ever parts
of those stories? Is that a thing

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that ever comes up down in Oklahoma? Yes, I've heard. I've heard

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a lot of stories, a lot
of stories about orbs. Everyone wants everyone.

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The famous one here in Oklahoma is
out in Miama. It's called the

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spook Light, but it looks like
a like a light kind of travels around

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in northeast Oklahoma. My dad has
actually seen it looks like a fireball,

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but it dances. It looks like
a person walking or you know, if

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someone was running and it looks you
know, it's kind of makes that movement.

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the souls of people that are watching

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over things, and that's they left
their soul there to to maybe guard something.

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I you know, who know who
really knows what it's really you know

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But I've also heard, I've also
heard that you know those things, this

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is this is gonna I don't think
I've shared this, but I'm gonna share

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it to you. I've heard stories
that these orbs kind of dance around maybe

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buried treasure or some type of fortune
and there, and I have heard stories

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of Bigfoot or dog man protecting this
treasure. I have heard those stories.

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Maybe you know, maybe it's you
know, treasure or something from like sixteen

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hundred you know, who knows,
you know, who knows what it is.

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But you know, I have heard, you know, I've also heard

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you know, Bigfoot being associated with
these orbs as well. So I mean,

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but at the end of the day, you know, people see the

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orbs and they're like, Okay,
I see an orb in the middle of

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this pasture. You know, what's
going on? You know? Or what's

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what's happening? You know, we
don't really there's no there's no explanation.

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But the old the old elders believe
that it's it's possibly the soul of people

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past gone that's protecting their their wealth
or you know, or it could be

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that they're just trying to find another
way, maybe to go to the other

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side. I mean, who I
mean, it's very interesting, though,

406
00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:48.720
can you tell me any anything more
about bigfoot guarding a buried treasure? That's

407
00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:55.000
that's that's an extremely new one for
me. That's really interesting. Yeah,

408
00:31:55.039 --> 00:31:57.640
I mean it's I'm just trying to
figure out how to how to describe that

409
00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:02.400
because when I was told that story, basically somebody was supposed to somebody was

410
00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:08.279
digging up basically they had they had
figured out that there were some type of

411
00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:14.079
basically followed the ORB essentially is what
the story was told, and they dug

412
00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:17.880
it up, and when they looked
over there was a sasquash there growling up.

413
00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:22.240
Now, now he said it would
maybe have been protecting, you know,

414
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:27.720
I don't really. I just used
protecting as like hey, you know,

415
00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:29.519
like hey, like when you hear
that, it's like, hey,

416
00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:31.119
it's probably time to get out of
here. You know, I probably shouldn't

417
00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:35.839
be be doing, you know,
be trying to you know collect this,

418
00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:38.599
uh, this treasure or whatever this
you know, this fortune is or whatever

419
00:32:38.680 --> 00:32:42.680
he was trying to look for.
That's just very interesting. That's why I

420
00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:45.519
haven't heard a lot of those stories. But I but I'm very you know,

421
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:47.599
if anyone out there, hey,
if you got one of those,

422
00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:52.559
let me know. Yeah. Absolutely. I just wanted to clarify that because

423
00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:53.759
I was like, man, I
don't. I don't want to to start.

424
00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:55.960
Let go, Hey, I saw
an orber. There's going to be

425
00:32:57.039 --> 00:33:00.160
it's like the new Lepricron and the
rainbow. You know. Yeah, no,

426
00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:04.440
but no, I just I just
I just had a like that that

427
00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:07.200
that story is. You know,
I heard that story you know, years

428
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:10.759
ago. But they basically followed it, you know, that that flame and

429
00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:14.759
it brought them to basically it kind
of did like a circle or whatever,

430
00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:16.960
you know, kind of a weird
like it was in a pattern essentially,

431
00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:22.400
and you know, they noticed that
it kind of stopped at a certain location

432
00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:25.480
and it moved to the next and
so they really you know, like I

433
00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:30.279
said, it's an older story,
so you know, it could have just

434
00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:34.240
been coincidence. Like you know,
I know a lot of people you know,

435
00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:37.839
see aliens with with bigfoot. You
know, that's another thing I've heard,

436
00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:42.240
but I haven't heard much on on
on on the alien part, but

437
00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:45.319
I have heard a few times of
like, you know, people seeing that

438
00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:49.920
flame and then they hear footsteps behind
them, you know, or something running

439
00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:52.720
through the woods. You know,
I have heard that too as well.

440
00:33:53.319 --> 00:33:55.960
My dad actually was out and kind
of you know, I'm kind of name

441
00:33:57.039 --> 00:34:00.039
dropping somebody's town. But my dad, I think he was out at Holbert

442
00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:04.160
and heard heard something like that.
It was all an orb and then you

443
00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:07.559
know, heard something thought was kind
of weird, but nothing nothing ever approached

444
00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:10.239
me. He just he heard something, you know, out with that orb.

445
00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:13.800
So and all, I mean it
also could be too that you know,

446
00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:16.119
maybe big Foot is trying to find
that treasure too or whatever that is

447
00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:27.599
out there. It's it's it's such
an awesome start to at like a story.

448
00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:30.840
It's just it's it is so cool, like the buried treasure of Bigfoot

449
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:36.239
in Oklahoma, and like, dude, I'm loving it. So let's let's

450
00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:39.400
pretend like, yeah, let's say
we're in your your area of Oklahoma and

451
00:34:39.519 --> 00:34:47.519
northeast, we're out of camp fire, and you know, there's maybe maybe

452
00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:52.960
some some people are there. They're
starting to get to get older. They're

453
00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:58.360
they're they're older than kids now they're
getting into junior high maybe high school,

454
00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:01.719
and so the old or individuals are
like, okay, it's time to tell

455
00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:07.599
them the story about Bigfoot. That
is, you know, we kind of

456
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:09.880
we all knew about it, and
now these kids are old enough to know

457
00:35:10.599 --> 00:35:15.159
are there any stories like that that
are are passed around the camp fires up

458
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:22.519
in your area. Yes, yeah, I mean yes and no. You

459
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:27.039
know a story I remember being I
remember being kind of like you mentioned,

460
00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:34.679
you know, we experienced that the
one that was running through this brush coming

461
00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:37.360
towards us, you know, while
we were sitting around telling stories. Another

462
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:40.960
you know a story that you know
kind of spooks me out to this day.

463
00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:45.119
It's out in park Hill, Oklahoma. It's uh, it's a little

464
00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:50.639
bit outside of Talent Wall, Oklahoma. And my my dad at the time

465
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:53.320
was a young guy. He just
uh, you know, he was living

466
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:57.199
with my grandpa at the time,
and he lived next to this park and

467
00:35:57.239 --> 00:36:00.840
it's called Marl Home Park. You
know, it's about you know, i'd

468
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:05.639
say probably a mile a mile and
a half from his house. And it

469
00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:07.119
was real, you know, kind
of a hot night, and you know

470
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:09.960
with old you know, old Indian
houses, you know, especially the old

471
00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:13.199
Indian heads, they are like,
no, we ain't not turning that ac

472
00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:15.800
on. We're gonna keep it keep
steaming in this house. So he had

473
00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:22.440
to open the window and my dad
is laying there and I'm and being mine.

474
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:24.840
I've never told the story publicly,
but I'm but you know, this

475
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:29.239
is this is a this is a
good time to tell it. And he's

476
00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:32.639
laying there in bed and he hears
something jump over the fence and it makes

477
00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:40.480
this sound like the creaking's hound.
And he hears these large footsteps coming up

478
00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:45.800
to the window and he and he's
laying there and he's like, what is

479
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:51.079
that and it lets out this like
a horse, you know, like a

480
00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:53.760
horse would you know, make this
kind of huffing sound. It was real

481
00:36:53.880 --> 00:36:59.440
deep. My dad sat there and
he was he was sitting there and he's

482
00:36:59.480 --> 00:37:00.800
getting real kind of like, what
is this, you know, what is

483
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:06.519
going on? And it kind of
made that huffing noise again, and it

484
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:10.519
heard he heard the creaking of the
the fence. So either it opened the

485
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:13.840
fence or opened the gate, because
it was kind of one of those you

486
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:15.760
know, little latch gates that you
can just flip up and open, or

487
00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:23.360
it jumped the fence and it took
back off where he was going. You

488
00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:30.199
know that area, it's a very
spooky area and it's got a lot of

489
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:36.760
things going on. And you know, in that area when I was a

490
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:40.679
young guy, I'll tell you my
my I think you know my encounter with

491
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:45.440
I think I believe it was one
of these you know creatures, one of

492
00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:49.079
these beans. You know, we
used to I used to take my friends

493
00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:52.599
out to this park and spook them
out because I know how to get the

494
00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:58.079
spooky's going. And you know,
in this park, there's these trails that

495
00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:00.960
go up into this kind of hill
area, and it's in it's pitch black.

496
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:05.239
You can't see, you know,
anything tree cover. No, you

497
00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:08.199
can't see any of the stars.
And I'm messing with them, you know,

498
00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:12.039
I'm you know, you're never supposed
to hoot. I was always told

499
00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:14.480
never to hoot, but I I
mess with them. You know, they're

500
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:17.119
you know, they're they're they're white
folks, you know. I mean like

501
00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:20.159
messing with you know, like to
show them that, you know, I

502
00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:22.280
know a few things. You know, I'm Indian, you know I can,

503
00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:24.639
I can, you know, summon
these things and just kind of,

504
00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:28.960
you know, have a little ego
about it. And and I made that

505
00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:34.039
mistake. So we come back off
the bridge and I go, hey,

506
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:39.000
let's stop re quick. I'm gonna
hoot three times and watch see what happens.

507
00:38:40.599 --> 00:38:45.480
I hoot the first time. Everybody
goes, hey, all right,

508
00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:47.119
man, hey, okay, hey, we we got to we get the

509
00:38:47.159 --> 00:38:52.239
point you're trying to scare us.
We get it. I hoot the second

510
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:55.320
time and they're like, no,
hey, okay, okay, hey,

511
00:38:55.480 --> 00:38:59.440
you know you hold up. Okay, chill out, chill out. It's

512
00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:05.840
cool. When I hoot that third
time. Under this you know, when

513
00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:08.480
you go over that bridge, there's
a little underpass that you can walk down

514
00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:15.000
to underneath that bridge. And there
was a roar came from under that bridge,

515
00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:22.119
and it was I always equate it
to King Kong's roar, but it

516
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:30.000
was it was. It hits you, it hit me, and when it

517
00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:34.400
roared, I blacked out. Be
in mind. I'm going to describe the

518
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:38.960
people that I'm with. I'm with
two six six, three hundred and fifty

519
00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:45.360
pound guys. I'm the last person
in the back closest to the car after

520
00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:49.199
that third hoop, and we hear
that roar and I'm I black out.

521
00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:54.280
They those those big boys were in
the car in two seconds, took off

522
00:39:55.039 --> 00:40:01.119
and I come back into my mind, you know, all the way and

523
00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:07.119
we're halfway, we're already almost home, and my mind comes back and I

524
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:09.719
think what we ran into that night
was one of those ones that make you

525
00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:15.000
forget because I don't remember from the
time that I who did that third time

526
00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:22.320
to hearing that roar two when we
were almost halfway home. And you know,

527
00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:23.639
to this day, I still have
those people that say, man,

528
00:40:23.639 --> 00:40:25.960
I don't know why, you know, that was the craziest thing I've ever

529
00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:31.199
heard. I've never heard anything that
made me feel that way. You know.

530
00:40:31.239 --> 00:40:34.400
It's almost like if you were face
to face with a lion and it

531
00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:39.559
roared in your face and you're just
like checked out. And I spoke with

532
00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:43.159
it with one of them, with
one of my uncles or with my uncle,

533
00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:45.760
and and he goes, yeah,
he said, you ran into the

534
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:50.119
ones that the one that makes you
forget. He said, you played.

535
00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:51.880
He said, what did you do
before? I said, I told him

536
00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:57.000
when I did. He goes,
Yep, that's what happens. So yeah,

537
00:40:57.000 --> 00:41:00.599
that's that's a that's that's my personal
story that I've I've run into.

538
00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:07.119
That's out in park Hill, Oklahoma, at Marralhome Park. It's a it's

539
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:10.400
a museum out there. It's a
it's the park is shut down. Now.

540
00:41:13.519 --> 00:41:15.599
There was a lot of things that
happened with some people passing away out

541
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:19.800
there. I don't want to say
the word, and there were some other

542
00:41:19.800 --> 00:41:24.840
things that that happened out there.
But another story, this is how this

543
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:30.119
happened back in the nineties at the
same at that same park. I had

544
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:34.079
an uncle of mine. He had
shared his story with me because he had

545
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:37.639
heard my story, and he was
he was a young guy. He was

546
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:39.320
out there. He was out there
with my other uncle and some friends,

547
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:43.880
and and they're doing some teenage saying, you know, while and kind of

548
00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:47.400
just you know, doing their thing, and the cops come. So they're

549
00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:51.239
hiding up in those trees. And
those trees you can kind of climb up

550
00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:53.199
them because they're all kind of low, but you can get up there real

551
00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:57.320
high in that tree. And those
cops are trying to find them. And

552
00:41:57.480 --> 00:42:01.599
eventually those comps decided to kind of
of you know, you know, not

553
00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:06.360
mess with them, and they went
went on, well, these there's these

554
00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:08.400
trash cans out there that are really
heavy, and some of them are bolted

555
00:42:08.440 --> 00:42:10.880
to the ground, some of them
are not. But they're like hard metal

556
00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:20.199
heavy trash cans. And my uncle
said, when they got down, something

557
00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:22.400
through and it, and the trash
can might have been three hundred pounds through

558
00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:30.039
it like a pebble at at them
from from over there by that bridge,

559
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:32.519
threw it at them and it almost
hit them. They were like, man,

560
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:35.480
we gotta get out of here.
What was that? You know,

561
00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:39.400
like, what's what just threw that
at us? And they took off and

562
00:42:39.400 --> 00:42:43.119
that was, you know, something
that you know will share to me here

563
00:42:43.159 --> 00:42:45.840
recently, I had never heard that
story. And my uncle heard my story

564
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:47.280
and said, hey, I you
know, I had the same thing something

565
00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:52.679
similar to me happened to me at
that part. And but you know,

566
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:57.440
but growing up, you know,
I'd always hear these stories of you know,

567
00:42:59.199 --> 00:43:04.159
you know pe people, you know, seeing these things. And as

568
00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:07.800
I've gotten older, you know,
I think with age people kind of say,

569
00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:12.079
hey, I'm gonna tell you the
story. And you know, with

570
00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:15.199
with the podcast, people you know
will tell me they're old school stories.

571
00:43:17.119 --> 00:43:21.599
And that's the thing I love about
about doing is hearing these stories. But

572
00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:23.159
yeah, that's a few stories that
you know, that's that's you know,

573
00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:25.719
I've I've shared around a camp fire, but I've also had shared to me

574
00:43:27.119 --> 00:43:32.880
in that way too. Hold of
that is incredible that you had that experience.

575
00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:38.440
You said, so are you making
a noise like a like an owl

576
00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:43.719
like that type of thing, or
it's like, yeah, it's one of

577
00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:47.199
those. Because so the backstory on
that is is my my grandpa did the

578
00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:51.440
same thing to some people when he
was in college, or he had a

579
00:43:51.480 --> 00:43:54.360
cousin that did the same thing,
or but essentially, and this is when

580
00:43:54.400 --> 00:44:00.159
I'm getting goose when I'm telling the
story. But I'm gonna tell you what

581
00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:04.880
he who did When he did that
who sound, there was laughter in those

582
00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:12.719
trees at that park, and it
was like maniacal laughter. And you know

583
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:15.840
that's where that that's where that that's
where I got that idea to do that.

584
00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:16.719
I was like, well, I
want to see if something happens,

585
00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:20.840
I'm gonna really mess with these people. But one thing about, like I

586
00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:22.719
said, when you call these things, when you call these beings and these

587
00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:28.360
entities, you're usually the one that
has to pay the piper. And that's

588
00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:31.519
why, you know, you know, that's why I kind of stepped away

589
00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:36.000
from the investigation side of that,
because you know, I used to go

590
00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:37.800
out and you know, I,
you know, I at one point,

591
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:42.239
you know, I was trying to
find a cult in a small town here

592
00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:46.960
in Oklahoma. I was finding animal
bones, you know, like animal carcasses

593
00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:51.639
and all this stuff, but that's
story for another time. Maybe we'll talk

594
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:53.800
about that another time. But but
yeah, man, it's uh, you

595
00:44:53.840 --> 00:45:00.679
know, that's the kind of backstory
behind behind those that we'll be back with

596
00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:10.000
more Bigfoot Society after these words from
our sponsors. That's incredible, and yeah,

597
00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:15.400
the cult ones for another time.
What was the name of that park

598
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:19.360
again that you had the two incidents
were happening at, just for my notes,

599
00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:24.440
Merle Home Park. It's so it's
uh, so's it was. I

600
00:45:24.440 --> 00:45:29.559
think it's owned by a tricky nation
actually, but it's uh basically, the

601
00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:31.760
park is named after the house that's
that's at the edge of the road,

602
00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:36.480
and that house I think you can
go and visit it, and it's haunted.

603
00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:39.760
I mean it's truly haunted. Like
I've remember being a young guy seeing

604
00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:44.559
video camera footage of it of things
moving in the house, like a full

605
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:49.480
like chair moving across the floor of
the house. I was like, man,

606
00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:58.639
that's kind of crazy. Got it? Merle Home Park in park Hill?

607
00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:02.840
Correct, Yep, yep, sir, yet totally got it. That's

608
00:46:04.119 --> 00:46:07.519
very very interesting. I feel like
there's might be some listeners that also have

609
00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:13.440
some stories from that area. Feel
free to contact me big Foot Society at

610
00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:17.239
gmail dot com. Also, we'll
have I'm pretty sure we'll have you Hoola's

611
00:46:17.679 --> 00:46:22.440
contact info in the show notes for
this as well. Well, we'll ask

612
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:29.760
him later on that. Yohola,
I know that you've probably chatted to people

613
00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:34.920
from all over the state of Oklahoma. Just curious. Have you ever talked

614
00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:42.239
to anyone that's had any interesting stories
from like Lafloor County or like ho Nabby

615
00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:46.840
or anything like that. I know, so I had somebody tell me,

616
00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:51.719
and I don't know exactly where Garfield
County is. I had to look.

617
00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:54.719
I mean, if you I can't
exactly know where that's at. But I

618
00:46:54.760 --> 00:46:58.920
had a lady reach out to me
about time when she was a little girl

619
00:46:58.920 --> 00:47:01.480
in Garfield County back in the early
seventies. I believe she was a little

620
00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:06.320
girl. This is old. She's
an older lady now, but she was

621
00:47:06.360 --> 00:47:08.079
telling me a story about a time
she was walking on the train tracks kind

622
00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:14.159
of closer to dark, and she
looked behind her and there was a it

623
00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:19.559
was basically a sasquatch following her on
the train tracks, and when she looked

624
00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:22.519
back, it was walking behind like
it was you know, it wasn't close,

625
00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:23.320
but it was you could see it, you know, she could see

626
00:47:23.360 --> 00:47:27.239
it. The outline of it was
big, and then when she looked,

627
00:47:27.239 --> 00:47:30.000
it darted back into the tree line, and then it followed her all the

628
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:31.840
way down to where she was going. Then she got home and they took

629
00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:37.039
off and went home. You know
a story that I had I had heard,

630
00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:45.639
you know, kind of in the
whole Nubby area is my grandpa used

631
00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:50.280
to do a lot of hunting up
in the Kimchi Mountains and it wasn't really

632
00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:54.199
like an encounter, but it was
more of like the the the whole entire

633
00:47:54.400 --> 00:48:00.000
area where he was at with his
buddy went dead quiet, like could hear

634
00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:04.599
a pin drop, like, you
know, any movement, you could hear

635
00:48:04.719 --> 00:48:07.960
something. And he thought it was
odd. And he had coon dogs.

636
00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:13.559
But I haven't really heard much of
Lafour County. I know that there's some

637
00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:21.199
history with the Choctaws out there.
I know that there's a there's a famous

638
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:25.559
I think there's a famous story about
I think it's the Choctaws. Basically,

639
00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:30.199
you know, they went in and
and and had basically a war with these

640
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:36.239
Sasquatch or these big foot and I
think only one person survived to tell the

641
00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:40.000
story at all these guys that went
down there to take on this clan,

642
00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:45.079
and I know that's that story has
been around for a lot of years.

643
00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:53.159
M fascinating I can tell. So, you know, you are a awesome

644
00:48:53.239 --> 00:49:00.000
guest because it's you're you have a
wealth of knowledge about this this stage.

645
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:05.519
It's incredible. So I might just
start throwing some random things at you and

646
00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:10.880
see if anything hits, because I
can't have this type of conversation with everyone.

647
00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:19.440
Have you ever heard any stories about
hyden as being seen in Oklahoma?

648
00:49:20.079 --> 00:49:25.639
So it depends on what the what
the description is. I'll tell you.

649
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:31.159
So this is kind of a weird
story. And so I used to uber

650
00:49:31.239 --> 00:49:36.599
when I when when I was need
some extra money back when I was a

651
00:49:36.599 --> 00:49:42.119
younger guy. This might have been
about five six years ago and I was

652
00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:46.079
out and this is in Biggsby,
Oklahoma where this took place, and I

653
00:49:46.119 --> 00:49:49.320
was, you know, I got
a you know, being, and I

654
00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:53.039
went down into once across the river
going into Biggsby, Sat. When you're

655
00:49:53.079 --> 00:49:58.440
going south into Biggsby, if people
are in that area or listen, there's

656
00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:01.079
a road that takes you next to
the river that goes on down there's a

657
00:50:01.079 --> 00:50:07.639
bunch of nice homes out there,
and I had basically I picked these two

658
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:09.960
girls up at the end of the
road, and I could tell that something

659
00:50:10.079 --> 00:50:14.119
was off with them. I was
like, they looked kind of, you

660
00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:19.360
know, frazzled, I guess you
could say. And you know, me

661
00:50:19.480 --> 00:50:22.159
being you know, conspiracy guy,
and you know I love cryptids, and

662
00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:27.400
you know I'm into the spooky stuff, and you know, I'd like to

663
00:50:27.440 --> 00:50:30.400
hear these things. And so I'm
just driving and I'm not saying anything.

664
00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:34.639
I got the music on and I'm
just kind of but I'm overhearing these two

665
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:42.719
girls talk about them seeing this weird
looking dog about the same not I wouldn't

666
00:50:42.719 --> 00:50:45.440
say about the same size of the
car, but it was a little smaller,

667
00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:49.679
and she goes. They were like
sitting there talking about it, and

668
00:50:49.679 --> 00:50:52.360
they were like, man, that
dog looked weird, kind of looked like

669
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:55.320
a hyena, kind of looked weird, didn't look like a dog. What

670
00:50:55.400 --> 00:50:59.159
do you think that was? And
they're sitting there back there talking and describing

671
00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:02.039
this thing sounding and and and to
me, I in my first thought,

672
00:51:02.039 --> 00:51:05.559
I thought it was, you know, maybe a dog man, And I

673
00:51:05.559 --> 00:51:08.880
still kind of think it might be, but they way to described it was

674
00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:15.239
like a hyena kind of looking thing, and because it wasn't bigger than the

675
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:17.880
car, but it was it was
like a little it was it was bigger

676
00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:23.039
than a dog, basically, and
they were like, man, I don't

677
00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:25.880
know what that was, and you
know, they they went on to basically

678
00:51:25.960 --> 00:51:28.840
you know, kind of you know, and I didn't ask them about I

679
00:51:28.920 --> 00:51:31.119
just stayed quiet because I wanted to
hear it naturally from them, because they

680
00:51:31.159 --> 00:51:36.719
were very I could tell that they
were upset, like this thing scared them,

681
00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:38.880
and you know, they were sitting
there like man like that, I

682
00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:42.239
don't know what that was. It
couldn't have been a dog. It couldn't

683
00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:45.360
have been you know, couldn't have
been this like do we you know,

684
00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:49.480
I don't really know what that was. But it didn't look like anything I've

685
00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:53.400
ever seen before. And you know, it's kind of waiting. But the

686
00:51:53.400 --> 00:51:57.280
boys, the guys, it was
about six or seven guys that were out

687
00:51:57.280 --> 00:52:00.719
there at this I guess they're having
a bonfire out there out and kind of

688
00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:02.639
this next to the this house,
I guess. I don't I don't really

689
00:52:02.679 --> 00:52:06.400
know, but the details on that, but like, you know, they

690
00:52:06.519 --> 00:52:09.119
ended up having to kind of show
this thing off. Whatever this thing was,

691
00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:14.559
Now, is it a hyena or
was it you know, or was

692
00:52:14.599 --> 00:52:17.159
it, you know, a dog
man? I really don't know, but

693
00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:21.599
you know, I just recently,
you know, went and saw at live

694
00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:27.000
hyena at this place here, and
I currently resided in in Oklahma City,

695
00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:30.079
but I went to this place and
I saw a hyaena, full grown hyena,

696
00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:34.519
and the way that this girl described
it, and I'm glad, you

697
00:52:34.519 --> 00:52:37.679
know, it's crazy you asked me
this question as I went and looked at

698
00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:39.800
this thing and this thing the way
she described it, this thing was a

699
00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:44.760
little little like it was way bigger
than, you know, than a dog.

700
00:52:44.800 --> 00:52:46.480
But it wasn't like, you know, four foot tall, it was,

701
00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:50.800
you know, but it was big. You could tell this animal is

702
00:52:50.840 --> 00:52:53.280
a really muscular animal. And I
just thought that was you know, that's

703
00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:58.159
kind of an interesting story, you
know that I heard from these these two

704
00:52:58.440 --> 00:53:00.480
basically high school girls had a bonfire. You know, it's kind of crazy

705
00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:06.719
just kind of overhearing them talk about
it. That's it's very interesting. And

706
00:53:07.679 --> 00:53:10.960
listeners, I'm going to shout out
cryptids of the Corn real quick. You

707
00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:15.599
don't listen to that. You need
to Their podcast is great, and the

708
00:53:15.599 --> 00:53:22.480
greatest episode I think is when they
talk about Hyaenas and how a lot of

709
00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:29.400
dog band sightings are probably misidentified Hyaenas. It's very interesting. Please take a

710
00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:31.599
listen. I'm going to put it
in the show notes too. But yohola.

711
00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:36.639
That kind of leads into another question, is are there a lot of

712
00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:42.760
dog band sightings in your state as
well? Besides bigfoot Man. From what

713
00:53:42.840 --> 00:53:47.360
I've heard, I think they're they're
running everywhere too. I'll tell you a

714
00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:52.800
crazy story. And this is a
crazy story. All right. This is

715
00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:55.920
this is an Oklahoma city, This
is an Oklahoma city. This is the

716
00:53:55.920 --> 00:54:02.840
biggest city in Oklahoma. I was
conversing, you know, we got a

717
00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:07.639
story. I got a story from
this this this woman basically telling me about

718
00:54:07.719 --> 00:54:15.480
her childhood and out here in Oklahma
City. And you know, she went

719
00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:17.800
on. You know, the way
she described is the layout of their house

720
00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:25.079
and where their house was is was
in basically a central part of Oklama City.

721
00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:30.880
There was there's basically hardly any trees, but she did mention that there's

722
00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:36.039
a row of trees that connect on
down that just I guess it's undeveloped land

723
00:54:36.039 --> 00:54:39.280
that goes all the way out till
you know, wherever outside Oklahma City.

724
00:54:39.719 --> 00:54:43.840
And I never really got a what
you know, part of Oklahoma City that

725
00:54:43.880 --> 00:54:49.440
she was in. But but she
as a little girl one night, uh

726
00:54:49.480 --> 00:54:52.639
and this is and she always felt
like she was being watched. And when

727
00:54:52.639 --> 00:54:54.960
she was playing outside, and she
might have been I think she says she

728
00:54:55.039 --> 00:54:59.079
was eight years old and she was
outside, you know, just you know,

729
00:54:59.280 --> 00:55:02.920
playing around and just you know,
being a little kid, and she

730
00:55:02.920 --> 00:55:07.320
also felt like she was being watched. And she told her mom, I

731
00:55:07.320 --> 00:55:08.599
don't I don't know, I'm I'm
kind of scared to go outside. She's

732
00:55:08.599 --> 00:55:10.920
like, what's wrong. There's nothing
out here. But they're you know,

733
00:55:10.960 --> 00:55:15.280
their fences backing up against this you
know, thick you know tree line.

734
00:55:15.320 --> 00:55:20.599
There's trees that you know that surrounded
it. And one night she's sitting there

735
00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:25.840
in the in her bed and and
she just in the in the way that

736
00:55:25.880 --> 00:55:29.960
she wrote it, it made it
sound like she kind of just rolled over,

737
00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:32.079
like she was kind of you know, just tossing and turning that night,

738
00:55:32.920 --> 00:55:38.599
and she looked over and there was
this basically this wolf's head staring at

739
00:55:38.599 --> 00:55:45.719
her from into the window, and
it was just looking at her, and

740
00:55:45.960 --> 00:55:50.760
she looked at it and she I
guess with the way she described it,

741
00:55:50.760 --> 00:55:52.760
it was kind of like a she
was shure, like she didn't know what

742
00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:57.559
she was looking at. And the
window was not like a you know,

743
00:55:57.679 --> 00:56:00.559
like a window that was on the
ground. This was like a pretty high

744
00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:06.400
up window. And she's looking and
this thing is this creature is looking at

745
00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:10.719
her through this window with red eyes, and it's almost like she felt like

746
00:56:10.760 --> 00:56:19.000
it wanted it to her to come
outside. And she looked at it and

747
00:56:19.119 --> 00:56:22.760
basically screamed when she when it,
you know, when eventually when it kind

748
00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:25.159
of dawned on her like, hey, this is not normal. And when

749
00:56:25.199 --> 00:56:28.519
she screamed, her parents come in
and it was like kind of the end

750
00:56:28.519 --> 00:56:32.440
of it. But you know,
she had kind of heard tappings on the

751
00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:36.599
window sometimes when she was like because
she would close the curtains a lot a

752
00:56:36.599 --> 00:56:38.960
lot of times and just happened so
that night that that she had it open.

753
00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:44.840
But that's at Oklahoma City, you
know, And for me that's kind

754
00:56:44.840 --> 00:56:51.559
of crazy because it's like in a
you know, heavily populated area. Another

755
00:56:51.599 --> 00:56:59.000
story comes out of I believe it's
out of the Salina area. Salina Oklahoma.

756
00:56:59.599 --> 00:57:00.639
No, I'm sorry, not Salina, Oklahoma. This is out of

757
00:57:01.880 --> 00:57:08.559
I believe it's north north northern part
of being. Anyways, I'm getting into

758
00:57:08.599 --> 00:57:15.519
Manusia. But there was a story
the elders used to talk about about a

759
00:57:15.599 --> 00:57:21.719
dog like creature that would run down
this road and it was known to do

760
00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:27.159
this, and basically what it would
do is it was it was passing through

761
00:57:27.239 --> 00:57:29.480
every you know, it wouldn't be
every night, but it'd be that would

762
00:57:29.480 --> 00:57:31.639
be its route. It would come
through and it was like a dog on

763
00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:37.320
the hine legs, you know,
running fast. An elder one time,

764
00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:43.400
I get, you know, was
talking about the time that her and her

765
00:57:43.400 --> 00:57:46.199
brothers, you know, had heard
something like some type of you know,

766
00:57:46.320 --> 00:57:52.360
yipping and it sounds like baby coyotes, and she was like, what is

767
00:57:52.360 --> 00:57:55.400
it? You know, what's that
sound? And so they her brothers decided

768
00:57:55.440 --> 00:57:58.559
to go check it out. So
they, you know, they kind of

769
00:57:58.880 --> 00:58:01.960
go through the woods, you know, they get up to where they hear

770
00:58:02.039 --> 00:58:09.079
this kind of chirping sounds like coyotes, and what they see is an upright

771
00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:15.199
werewolf and it's yipping like a like
a coyote, and they're like, what

772
00:58:15.400 --> 00:58:19.920
in the world. So they take
off running and they run back the house

773
00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:22.639
and there they couldn't talk. They
couldn't speak for you know, the whole

774
00:58:22.679 --> 00:58:29.719
thirty minutes after and that's all the
Cherokee Nation res. You know, one

775
00:58:29.719 --> 00:58:35.280
thing about dog man I think it
is a little bit confused sometimes when in

776
00:58:35.360 --> 00:58:38.760
non native circles. I'd say,
is the difference between you know, shape

777
00:58:38.760 --> 00:58:45.400
shifters and skin walker and a dog
man. You know, those things are

778
00:58:45.400 --> 00:58:51.239
not interchangeable. They're different. And
you know, I you know, there's

779
00:58:51.280 --> 00:58:54.920
stories up and you know, like
I said in Northeast Oklahoma of shape shifters,

780
00:58:55.400 --> 00:59:00.679
Uh, kind of a funny story. This is old, you know,

781
00:59:00.760 --> 00:59:07.639
old old you know medicine. But
but there's two these two women could

782
00:59:07.639 --> 00:59:10.760
do these things. They could shape
shift in the in the kind of wolve

783
00:59:12.119 --> 00:59:19.119
wolve kind of wolve like were wolf
type thing. And they would always be

784
00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:22.000
beefing with each other. They had
beef for their entire life. They were

785
00:59:22.039 --> 00:59:23.800
never could never get along, but
they would always beef with each other,

786
00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:29.320
you know, through you know,
through this kind of you know, shamanism,

787
00:59:29.400 --> 00:59:31.679
shape shifting thing. And you know, there was a nurse one night

788
00:59:31.760 --> 00:59:35.159
and said that she saw a wolf, you know, I guess on the

789
00:59:35.239 --> 00:59:37.960
hind legs walking in the in the
nursing home, walking around in the nursing

790
00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:40.639
home, it was that one of
those ladies going in to mess with the

791
00:59:40.639 --> 00:59:45.000
other lady. So you know,
there's you know, kind of getting back

792
00:59:45.039 --> 00:59:50.960
to to dog Man something that happened
to me when I was on the Illinois

793
00:59:51.079 --> 00:59:53.360
or when I was it was on
Halloween night, which is kind of a

794
00:59:53.400 --> 00:59:58.800
crazy I'm being very long winn and
I apologize and I'm kind of hitting all

795
00:59:58.840 --> 01:00:04.239
these different stories and and whatnot.
But we'll be back with more Bigfoot Society

796
01:00:04.320 --> 01:00:13.400
after these words from our sponsors.
I was on the Illinois River driving to

797
01:00:13.519 --> 01:00:19.960
a cabin that we rented out on
how are we nine? And I saw

798
01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:22.920
something on the right hand side of
the road and it looked like a wolf.

799
01:00:24.639 --> 01:00:29.719
It was on all fours, but
it was sitting next like on a

800
01:00:29.840 --> 01:00:34.400
time haunches, like you know,
like when if someone was bending down to

801
01:00:34.480 --> 01:00:36.679
like kind of get out of the
way, you know, if you know,

802
01:00:36.719 --> 01:00:38.519
like if you're standing up and then
you swat down real quick. It

803
01:00:38.559 --> 01:00:43.280
looked like it was already squatting down. And I looked and I said,

804
01:00:43.280 --> 01:00:45.840
what was that? And this is
before I even knew about dog. Man,

805
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:50.480
I had no idea about this,
And I was like, who was

806
01:00:50.559 --> 01:00:52.360
that. I was like, that's
a big you know, that's a big

807
01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:59.800
dog. I ain't never seen no
dog like that. Well, you know,

808
01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:02.159
fast forward, you know, into
the night, and you know,

809
01:01:02.159 --> 01:01:05.159
people are like, man, I
don't want to go outside, and I'm

810
01:01:05.159 --> 01:01:06.800
like, what are you telling about? She's They're like, man, when

811
01:01:06.800 --> 01:01:09.320
we pulled up, there was a
big old dog outside. It was like

812
01:01:09.360 --> 01:01:13.840
it wasn't near the house, but
it was I guess up up the road

813
01:01:13.840 --> 01:01:15.960
a little bit kind of where I
saw it, but it was on down

814
01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:17.840
like it was coming closer to the
to the cabin where we were at.

815
01:01:19.880 --> 01:01:22.880
And they were like, man,
we almost hit this big old dog and

816
01:01:22.039 --> 01:01:25.880
it was huge. We don't even
know what it was like. I like,

817
01:01:25.960 --> 01:01:29.119
we didn't. We had to swerve
out of the way, you know.

818
01:01:29.199 --> 01:01:31.960
And that's that's how they're describing it. And there were some people outside

819
01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:35.320
sitting on the porch and where you
know, this is a big old you

820
01:01:35.320 --> 01:01:38.679
know, kind of doing young people
things and and I guess I'm still young,

821
01:01:38.760 --> 01:01:40.960
but I'm saying, you know,
kind of young and dumb stuff like

822
01:01:42.079 --> 01:01:45.920
you know, and people. You
know, I had some people tell me

823
01:01:45.960 --> 01:01:50.400
they swear on everything. There was
a howl that came from the river and

824
01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:53.199
it was a big howl. You
know. We had music going and they

825
01:01:53.239 --> 01:01:57.559
heard it over the music, you
know, which is kind of a you

826
01:01:57.559 --> 01:02:00.639
know, crazy thing. But that's
that's all that's in Talent Wall. That's

827
01:02:00.679 --> 01:02:05.599
kind of up the river in Talent
Wall. You know when it comes,

828
01:02:05.800 --> 01:02:07.559
you know, but I can keep
going. I mean, you know,

829
01:02:07.599 --> 01:02:10.440
there's all just different types of you
know stories. You know, there's one

830
01:02:10.480 --> 01:02:15.599
out of kind of southern Oklahoma.
You know, when it comes to kind

831
01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:20.840
of I guess it's like a it's
like a trail, I guess of this

832
01:02:20.880 --> 01:02:23.039
thing. This thing has been running
a trail, I guess, and people

833
01:02:23.039 --> 01:02:27.559
have seen it. But yeah,
man, there's there's I think they're I

834
01:02:27.559 --> 01:02:31.519
think they're pretty rampant here in Oklahoma. I would say, without a doubt,

835
01:02:31.719 --> 01:02:37.480
you guys have some things going on
down there with dog Man as well.

836
01:02:37.960 --> 01:02:42.480
Now do you not not even to
mention your your hyena story that I

837
01:02:42.599 --> 01:02:46.559
just randomly decided to ask you about, which is weird that that came up.

838
01:02:46.679 --> 01:02:51.719
But I have a question. It's, you know, part of my

839
01:02:51.800 --> 01:02:58.519
ignorance. But so I know that
on the Navajo Nation they have the Navajo

840
01:02:58.719 --> 01:03:06.199
Rangers. Is there equivalent of that
on the reservations in your area? So

841
01:03:07.159 --> 01:03:15.679
no, I would say no.
Now, Now granted, you know,

842
01:03:15.719 --> 01:03:22.159
when you're dealing each each nation here
kind of in the northeast and kind of

843
01:03:22.199 --> 01:03:28.199
the five civilized tribes and it's you
know, Seminole, Choctaw, Chickasaw,

844
01:03:28.320 --> 01:03:34.840
Cherokee and Creek and the Skogan Creek, and you know, everything has to

845
01:03:34.880 --> 01:03:40.519
be more corporate nowadays. I would
say when it comes to that, but

846
01:03:40.840 --> 01:03:45.480
I would not be surprised. And
this is just kind of you know,

847
01:03:45.679 --> 01:03:50.880
my thought is, I would not
be surprised if they had a unit or

848
01:03:51.000 --> 01:04:00.119
some type of paranormal investigative, you
know, section of each Marshall or you

849
01:04:00.119 --> 01:04:03.079
know Marshall, Turkee, Marshalls and
then the Creek Nation, light Horse.

850
01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:08.599
I wouldn't be surprised if they went
out and investigated because you know these you

851
01:04:08.639 --> 01:04:15.000
know, one thing that's happening in
especially in Creek Country is a lot of

852
01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:18.199
people are moving out of the city
and they're buying land. And I wouldn't

853
01:04:18.239 --> 01:04:24.280
be surprised that you know, those
those you know Christmas and Creed Naser or

854
01:04:24.280 --> 01:04:26.880
Turkey Nation. They have people to
go out and say, hey, we

855
01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:30.519
got a weird call of this seven
foot tall hairyman. You know, you

856
01:04:30.559 --> 01:04:32.559
know, they may be off the
record. I don't know, but I

857
01:04:32.599 --> 01:04:35.760
would not be surprised at all if
that's kind of if they if they had

858
01:04:35.840 --> 01:04:42.159
something like that. I mean,
I wouldn't be surprised either. And you

859
01:04:42.199 --> 01:04:45.199
know, if there's someone that's listening
and that's you, and hey, if

860
01:04:45.199 --> 01:04:49.800
you want to reach out, that's
cool. But yo, hold of man,

861
01:04:49.840 --> 01:04:57.280
this has been such a fun and
refreshing interview. My goodness, this

862
01:04:57.320 --> 01:05:01.239
has been a good, good time. Uh can you do you mind spending

863
01:05:01.320 --> 01:05:04.920
a few minutes talking about, uh, you know, what the War Crime

864
01:05:05.159 --> 01:05:10.800
podcast is. What listeners can you
expect to hear? Uh, you know

865
01:05:10.920 --> 01:05:15.519
when they subscribe and listen to that. Yeah, so a lot of the

866
01:05:15.519 --> 01:05:19.840
things that you guys hear I do. I do discuss, you know,

867
01:05:19.960 --> 01:05:26.360
some of these things on my podcast. I go a little bit harder when

868
01:05:26.360 --> 01:05:30.920
it comes to certain things. You
know, my my podcast consists consists of

869
01:05:30.960 --> 01:05:36.960
basically true crime to conspiracy to native
stories to you know, basically anything and

870
01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:42.760
everything you know that that's that goes
bump in the night, and and you

871
01:05:42.760 --> 01:05:45.480
know, I try to I try
to do research on things, and I

872
01:05:45.519 --> 01:05:48.800
try to reach out to people and
get information and and uh, but my

873
01:05:48.960 --> 01:05:54.360
the podcast is available on basically you
know, Spotify, Apple, Google,

874
01:05:56.079 --> 01:05:58.679
you know, it's on YouTube.
I got some interviews on there. I

875
01:05:58.880 --> 01:06:01.920
every episode I think up until the
latest one is up, is up on

876
01:06:01.960 --> 01:06:05.400
YouTube. But you can find me, like I said, war Cry podcasts,

877
01:06:05.440 --> 01:06:08.840
and you can even add me on
Facebook two as well. You hold

878
01:06:08.880 --> 01:06:12.239
a Tiger, but send me a
message. You know, sometimes people just

879
01:06:12.280 --> 01:06:14.599
add me and I'm like, I'm
gonna accept it because you know, I

880
01:06:14.599 --> 01:06:16.039
don't know who you are. But
if you send me a message and say,

881
01:06:16.039 --> 01:06:19.039
hey, man, I listen to
I heard you on Bigfoot Society or

882
01:06:19.079 --> 01:06:21.280
I heard you here or you know, or you know, I love the

883
01:06:21.320 --> 01:06:25.800
podcast, and I'll accept you because
you know I said, like I said,

884
01:06:25.800 --> 01:06:30.039
I like I like talking to people, and I like getting information and

885
01:06:30.079 --> 01:06:35.440
stories from people. Absolutely, And
you know, listeners, if you holda

886
01:06:35.519 --> 01:06:41.400
said something and it jogged your memory
about you know something you know about Oklahoma,

887
01:06:41.920 --> 01:06:45.679
reach out to him, send him
a message, get him more information,

888
01:06:45.840 --> 01:06:49.199
for sure, But you hold it
has been a pleasure chatting with you

889
01:06:49.639 --> 01:06:55.719
tonight. Any Yeah, yeah,
real quick. You didn't ask me about

890
01:06:55.719 --> 01:07:00.639
that? So have you heard about
this again? You totally yeah, go

891
01:07:00.679 --> 01:07:03.960
for it, man, So you
didn't ask me about the casino that reportedly

892
01:07:03.960 --> 01:07:10.800
had that that the video of that
big foot coming out of the grass grease

893
01:07:10.840 --> 01:07:13.960
trap. Have you heard about that? I've heard of it. Yeah,

894
01:07:14.039 --> 01:07:23.639
yeah. So I've had an individual
come forward and he worked security there and

895
01:07:25.480 --> 01:07:32.079
he himself before that video happened.
Now, there's multiple theories, there's multiple

896
01:07:32.159 --> 01:07:39.360
different things that people say that happened, but he swears by this is what

897
01:07:39.480 --> 01:07:46.039
happened is essentially that, and this
is kind of this is kind of I'm

898
01:07:46.039 --> 01:07:48.320
gonna say, you know what,
you know whatever, we're here, We're

899
01:07:48.400 --> 01:07:53.360
I've already mentioned it, so we're
here. Essentially what happened was is the

900
01:07:53.400 --> 01:08:00.639
tribe confiscated it. The tribe confiscated
that that video. Okay, but they

901
01:08:00.639 --> 01:08:09.039
were late, and allegedly there are
copies possibly out there somewhere. And I

902
01:08:09.079 --> 01:08:14.800
would not be surprised if we hear
twenty years from now that it that it

903
01:08:14.880 --> 01:08:20.119
came up that the videos resurface somehow. I've also heard a theory from someone

904
01:08:20.319 --> 01:08:25.399
different that said that Matt Moneymaker from
the BFRO bought it. Jeez, you're

905
01:08:25.399 --> 01:08:32.279
gonna get me so much trouble.
Now, Well, there's a big allegedly

906
01:08:32.399 --> 01:08:38.159
that that's wild. Okay, that's
that's from somebody that works there that told

907
01:08:38.319 --> 01:08:43.640
that said that as well. Now, I like I said one thing about

908
01:08:43.640 --> 01:08:46.319
this tape, and this is why
everything I'm talking about is allegedly and I

909
01:08:46.359 --> 01:08:50.760
don't nothing is for certain. But
what I do know for sure is that

910
01:08:53.920 --> 01:08:59.159
from what I was told from this
this person, that there was a group

911
01:08:59.199 --> 01:09:04.279
of older lay and this is how
this whole thing kind of culminated into what

912
01:09:04.319 --> 01:09:10.479
it became. Is either this happened
before or after, and I cannot exactly

913
01:09:10.520 --> 01:09:15.439
remember how they described it, but
there was a group of senior citizens that

914
01:09:15.520 --> 01:09:17.880
had come to gamble, which is
a wild thing to do, is to

915
01:09:18.319 --> 01:09:24.880
send nursing home people into in the
casino to spend their nursing home money.

916
01:09:24.680 --> 01:09:29.439
Yet that it's kind of wild,
But it was a bunch of senior citizens

917
01:09:29.479 --> 01:09:30.159
that I gets. I don't know
if I say, I don't if it

918
01:09:30.159 --> 01:09:34.920
was a nursing home or whatever.
The bus driver saw this thing standing at

919
01:09:34.920 --> 01:09:40.800
the tree line waiting for those ladies
to come out. Are those ladies and

920
01:09:40.840 --> 01:09:45.039
those men to come out, those
senior citizens to come out? He took

921
01:09:45.079 --> 01:09:49.119
off and quit. Then that's then
the guy that I you know, the

922
01:09:49.199 --> 01:09:55.760
like said, the person I've talked
to, basically saw one of these things

923
01:09:55.760 --> 01:10:00.600
that heard tree knocks and hollers I
think the next night, and then that's

924
01:10:00.600 --> 01:10:08.000
when they got the film. And
I've this is something that I've really I've

925
01:10:08.039 --> 01:10:12.199
been very interested in, and I've
been trying to get people to come forward,

926
01:10:12.239 --> 01:10:14.560
and I've and I've even put it
out there on some episodes. It's

927
01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:16.319
like, hey, have you heard
anything? Let me know. And like

928
01:10:16.359 --> 01:10:18.119
I said, I had this gentleman
who worked, like I said, he

929
01:10:18.199 --> 01:10:21.159
worked there, and he was,
you know, relaying to me that you

930
01:10:21.159 --> 01:10:26.520
know, it's it. Don't never
say never on that thing, because it

931
01:10:26.560 --> 01:10:30.000
may eventually come out, and when
it does, it'll blow the roof off

932
01:10:30.039 --> 01:10:33.359
because it because this is this tape
was and if you remember, this is

933
01:10:33.479 --> 01:10:38.399
like what early a few thousands I
believe maybe even before that. Maybe I

934
01:10:38.399 --> 01:10:42.880
remember seeing it on the news very
briefly, and I remember they mentioned it

935
01:10:42.880 --> 01:10:47.119
here in Oklahoma. And that has
been a thing that I have been trying

936
01:10:47.199 --> 01:10:51.479
to get to the bottom of it. I've been asking people basically since I

937
01:10:51.560 --> 01:10:56.279
heard about it, and you know, like I said, well they said

938
01:10:56.319 --> 01:10:57.720
one of it, like you I
said, I heard that one of the

939
01:10:57.720 --> 01:11:00.399
managers went to the news station and
that's how it got out, and then

940
01:11:00.399 --> 01:11:05.560
they had to quickly reel it in
and and you know things like that.

941
01:11:06.319 --> 01:11:12.680
So if anybody has heard anything about
this videotape and about this casino, I'm

942
01:11:12.680 --> 01:11:15.239
not going to mention the casino because
I don't want, you know, anyone

943
01:11:15.239 --> 01:11:17.439
to get in trouble for deformation anything
like that. But everything out, like

944
01:11:17.439 --> 01:11:20.600
I said, everything from the point
that I mentioned the casinos and right now

945
01:11:20.760 --> 01:11:26.399
it's all alleged. But if you
know anything, or you heard anything,

946
01:11:26.520 --> 01:11:29.479
or you know somebody that knows somebody, let me know, because I said,

947
01:11:29.520 --> 01:11:30.239
I've been trying to get to the
bottom of this, and this is

948
01:11:30.279 --> 01:11:35.159
a mystery that I would like to
crack. Dude, I'm loving it.

949
01:11:35.199 --> 01:11:43.039
I love when people dig deep into
their their state mysteries about Bigfoot. I

950
01:11:43.079 --> 01:11:45.119
think that was back in like two
thousand and two or something around around there.

951
01:11:45.119 --> 01:11:51.479
Alleged incident with the casino and the
missing footage and it's just a fascinating

952
01:11:51.520 --> 01:11:55.760
story. And yeah, listeners,
if you know, reach out to Yahola

953
01:11:55.920 --> 01:12:00.399
please. I didn't even mention what
was on the tape either. I'm sorry.

954
01:12:00.680 --> 01:12:03.199
So they So there was two different
things that I was told from,

955
01:12:03.439 --> 01:12:09.039
like I said, multiple people,
is that they got a full shot of

956
01:12:09.079 --> 01:12:15.319
this thing, a full shot,
like a clear cut this is Bigfoot.

957
01:12:16.560 --> 01:12:19.840
Then I also heard that, you
know, all they could see, you

958
01:12:19.880 --> 01:12:24.000
know, from someone else said that
they all they could see was an arm

959
01:12:24.159 --> 01:12:27.880
or they could you know, basically, this thing was eating the grease out

960
01:12:27.880 --> 01:12:30.880
of this trap and it was eating
whatever was in that. That's what I've

961
01:12:30.880 --> 01:12:35.279
heard. Yeah, and you know, the one that I think I believe

962
01:12:35.359 --> 01:12:40.479
is I think they've seen the whole
thing. That's the story that I think

963
01:12:40.800 --> 01:12:45.640
that I believe is that they found
that full the full video. I mean,

964
01:12:45.760 --> 01:12:48.159
the person that I talked to said
he's seen it and he said it

965
01:12:48.199 --> 01:12:53.560
was He said that he's like they
will never be able to read like there's

966
01:12:53.600 --> 01:12:57.479
no footage out there that's going to
be able to prove the existence of this

967
01:12:57.560 --> 01:13:01.399
thing, but that video will is
what he he's so he's holy Mackel,

968
01:13:01.439 --> 01:13:08.039
have you recorded an interview with this
guy? So it's all not he may

969
01:13:08.119 --> 01:13:12.199
eventually do it. Okay, he's
an older guy. He's an older gentleman.

970
01:13:13.159 --> 01:13:16.119
He's he's you know, he's he's
aged a lot. I'll say.

971
01:13:16.319 --> 01:13:24.560
Yeah, he currently lives in a
different country. And so so he eventually

972
01:13:24.640 --> 01:13:28.520
he told me, he said,
I'm going to kind of build up the

973
01:13:28.600 --> 01:13:30.279
nerve and he said he may talk
about it, but he has a lot

974
01:13:30.319 --> 01:13:35.119
of other you know, stories about
Canada dog man, and he's got all

975
01:13:35.119 --> 01:13:42.640
types of other stories that that he
shared with me. And but yeah,

976
01:13:42.680 --> 01:13:45.279
you never know, guys, you
never know. Those are the guys you

977
01:13:45.279 --> 01:13:48.680
need. Man. Man, that's
that's an interview right there. Man,

978
01:13:48.920 --> 01:13:54.479
hopefully you can get that, you
know, uh, get a great relationship

979
01:13:54.520 --> 01:13:58.439
with that gentleman and be able to
interview him. But man, I love

980
01:13:58.479 --> 01:14:02.479
talking to individual like that. Well, man, uh, I'll be exciting

981
01:14:02.560 --> 01:14:09.479
to see if something happens from from
this in the future and maybe that video

982
01:14:09.640 --> 01:14:14.960
will will one day you know,
show up again. Be incredible. Yeah,

983
01:14:14.960 --> 01:14:17.800
it would be. Oh. I
love a good mystery, and that's

984
01:14:17.800 --> 01:14:20.920
a that's a good mystery. To
thank you for bringing that up. At

985
01:14:20.920 --> 01:14:25.800
the end, you hold this has
been a good time, man, did

986
01:14:25.840 --> 01:14:31.840
you have any any other closing thoughts
before before we and start to end out

987
01:14:31.880 --> 01:14:36.920
this episode. Yeah, I just
appreciate you you're having me on and and

988
01:14:36.960 --> 01:14:40.840
like I said, this a lot
of the other thing that I've you know,

989
01:14:40.960 --> 01:14:45.479
I've talked about or to me is
like it's all very interesting to me

990
01:14:45.520 --> 01:14:49.439
and it's very intriguing. And like
I said, I appreciate you having me

991
01:14:49.479 --> 01:14:54.760
on, and hopefully we can do
this again sometime. Absolutely, thanks for

992
01:14:54.760 --> 01:14:57.680
coming on, Yohola, no prom
at all, man, you're a big

993
01:14:57.720 --> 01:15:02.159
for Society. Article is to provide
a platform for those that have encountered Bigfoot

994
01:15:02.319 --> 01:15:08.279
to share their encounter in a safe
and respected environment. But we need to

995
01:15:08.319 --> 01:15:13.399
hear your story. If you've experienced
something that you just can't explain, please

996
01:15:14.000 --> 01:15:18.800
send me an email at Bigfoot Society
at gmail dot com. Then we can

997
01:15:18.880 --> 01:15:24.720
start the conversation. And I know
a lot of you have not shared your

998
01:15:24.840 --> 01:15:29.920
encounter at all. It's been twenty
years and it's time that you get this

999
01:15:30.039 --> 01:15:33.119
off your chest and then you can
get some well deserved for rest because I

1000
01:15:33.159 --> 01:15:39.239
know you haven't been sleeping. I
understand what you're going through and I appreciate

1001
01:15:39.319 --> 01:15:40.399
every one of you listening