City Girl Becomes a Country Girl! | Oklahoma

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0:51 So welcome to the show, Jillian. How's it going today. It's going good, expecting some rain, which is always welcome. It's gonna be a great day here in Oklahoma. Oh. I love to hear that. I mean, we're trying to get back into the warm temperatures up here in Iowa and get back out in the woods. But you know, Jillian, I know you've got some some cool things to share, So I'm gonna go ahead and make sure you have the time that you need. Feel free to, you know, take take the mic and uh and take us back to whatever we need to know. Background wise regarding what happened to you back then. Okay, wonderful. Well, let me start by saying that I am a city girl that always wanted to be a country girl. However, I am like born and raised in the city, and so I've never been a hunter fisher never.

1:56 That is not something that's always that's ever been in my passed. So a few years ago, about three years ago, my father and mother were looking at bringing my brother out of California. Uh. It was during that time when the pandemic was happening. Things were just crazy out in California and it was time to try to bring my brother back home. So it's just my brother and I and I was married at the time. I have two grown sons and was just living my life peacefully in my little community, raising my family. I got a call from my dad out of nowhere saying that he had gone out looking for property to bring my brother back closer to the family. He had actually just experienced the divorce, and so we were trying to bring him closer to family, and my dad said, Hey, I just wanted to let you know that we now own a property out in Oklahoma.

3:12 Like I said, I'm a West Texas girl. I have driven through Oklahoma, I think once. But this is not an area I know. This is not an area that I have ever you know, explored or been raised in. And so several weeks later I made my way out into Oklahoma to visit the property. And when I say the middle of nowhere, I can, I mean, it's like something I've never experienced. Uh. In fact, my first trip, I you know, my GPS failed. I was, you know, no cell phone service, found myself in so many different carriages parts of Texas Oklahoma. It was a terrifying experience.

4:03 But when I finally made my way to the property, I found that my dad had purchased a family was going to be our family meeting place or gathering place in southern part of Oklahoma. It's actually just forty five miles or forty five minutes from which Tall Falls Texas. So that's the part of Oklahoma just right across the Texas border. We're actually very close to the Red River. And so a few months go by, and unfortunately my life changes dramatically and I wind up going through a pretty messy divorce, and my sons were both almost grown.

4:50 I will say I've got a younger son because he comes in to the story a little bit later. My younger son has autism, and so he I knew, would he staying with me, you know, predominantly for the rest of his life. I'm a full time caregiver for him. So I go through this horrific divorce, which actually is why I wind up leaving my home in West Texas and coming to live with my brother in Oklahoma. Get out here to Oklahoma, and at this time it's just my brother and I we live at this time on it's a wildlife preserve. And because I've always been such an avid animal lover, Like I said, I don't hunt, I don't fish. But I ran around this spectacular area just chomping through the forest and looking at all the fantastic birds and all the different wildlife. And that's when I started kind of learning about trapp because I live on a lake. I'll just say that it is a gorgeous lake out here. And so I would hike to the lake through the forest that was right in our backyard and was just looking at all the different tracks that the animals were making and just started becoming familiar with my surroundings. About six months after, you know, purchasing

6:20 the property, my father wound up passing away unexpectedly, and you know, that was super traumatizing. We're a very small family, like I said, just my brother and I. My mother unfortunately had been diagnosed with dementia. I mean, it's like it's just a kind of a just a whole spectacle of sad things that happened all at once. And that is actually after my father passed away, my brother wound up moving back to West Texas to care for my mother with dementia, which now left me completely by myself, a city girl, you know, in the middle of nowhere.

7:05 And so I've always been a little bit of a chicken, not like in my daily life, but like very but this type of person, like I don't like to be alone. I've always been scared of the dark. I mean, so for me to now live in as I said, the true middle of nowhere, on a wildlife preservation area with a huge forest and a massive lake right behind my house. And I was completely alone for the first time. And so I think because of everything that had gone on, that's kind of when I guess I became a little adventurous.

7:52 Why I know I became adventurous. I honestly don't even think I had much will to live at that point, and so I would find myself, you know, wandering off into the forest behind my house, just exploring and finding different areas. And you know, I'm not I was never somebody that carried the gun or anything like that, and so I just always had a like a pocket knife on me, feathers in my hair, running out in the middle of the woods. And so I was also one of these adventures. It actually was a little bit of that story my Not only did my father pass away, but simultaneously my ex father in law had passed away some almost I mean, it was a weird thing. They passed very close to each other, and so it was actually a day of his funeral, and so I think because I was in like an emotional state at that time, I ran off in the woods Uh, stayed out there just hiking around, and I found this like gorgeous peak.

9:09 It's like you went through the forest and then you kind of went up this this little ridge and then you you stood on this little peak that you could see the lake just I mean, the most beautiful, beautiful sight you've ever seen. It also was a great place to actually get cell phone service because out here there's no cell phone service. And in all honesty, as I said, I'm a city girl. I'm not this you know, country hunter or fishermen. And so I was out there actually doing a TikTok of all things, and had found this beautiful cove. But the time, the lake was up really high.

9:57 I know that now. At the time I thought that was just kind of a normal levels. But because of that, it had pushed me back in this cove with all these massive trees and the water, you know, just coming up into that cove. And anyway, I thought it would make a spectacular TikTok, and that's what I was doing. And it was around dust, you know, starting to get a little bit later. Let me think, I know, it had to have been around late spring if I remember correctly, And so I'm out there probably a little bit later than I should have done. And as I'm out there making this TikTok, I start seeing like flocks of different types of birds coming into this cove. And so you know that immediately, because I'm an animal lover, that immediately draws my attention. So there are some seeing like these smaller birds, and I'm watching them, and then I'm these like seagal looking things coming in and I'm just focused on all that, and then I start noticing these massive black bursts. And I'm not talking about like your average black pro I don't know what they are. I'm not from this area, you know, But all I can say is these massive blackbirds and they come out of different

11:30 areas around the lake through different times of the seasons, different times of the days. Well this is my first experience and seeing them come to that cove and they are just like circling over this cove and making a bunch of noise. And so I'm looking up and then you know, whether I just was hallucinating your or having a moment with these birds. I mean, I literally can tell that these birds are like people at me, and I start to think from like, hmm, you know, those are really big birds. So there's a whole lot of them and maybe, you know, maybe it's you know, kind of time for me to scoot up out of this area.

12:15 And I mean, at that moment, I can remember it. I tell you know, the few people I've told the story to, I tell them, I don't think I will ever forget this moment in my life. I was standing out, uh it kind of in the water, but backed up into the trees on a on a little sandy area. My back was to the forest, and I've been looking up at all the birds swarming and just like, look up, see that bird. And I know it sounds weird, but I swear I think that bird looked at me like almost given me an indicator, like, girl, you need to get about of here. And so at that time, I mean, I immediately get this overwhelming sense that something is watching from from behind. And I mean so much that I mean I froze solid and turned around to the forest and just was scanning, was standing down low because at that time I was thinking like, I don't know what's out here, like is there a bobcad whatever that is. It was like you could tell that something was watching. But immediately my eyes. Whatever it was was watching, I could tell it was high up in these trees. It wasn't the birds, but whatever it was, it was staring at me from

13:47 those trees. And I just got this like, I don't want to say I was scared, but I just had the overwhelming feeling of something telling me go home, like did it time for you to leave this area? And so I listened to that intuition. I picked up and started back down the trail. At this point, I'm at least probably close to a mile from my house somewhere in there, and I'll make it back home again. I'm living by myself, and you know, I don't really think, well, I can't say I don't really think much about it, because I actually did. I thought about it non stop, but it wasn't It wasn't a feeling of being scared or that something was, you know, gonna come in my house or anything like that.

14:47 Big for society will be right back after these messages. So I would say several I don't. I don't really know if it was days or weeks later. I mean, time is kind of hard to judge at that moment. But I did start hearing things rub against the house, things like hitting, the sighting of the house, and it was all towards my bedroom because my bedroom actually faces the forest. It's the I don't have many windows in this house, and so the one window faces directly to the forest. And whatever it was that was hitting or banging or rubbing, it was always like at my bedroom at the back of the bedroom. And I would remember, you know, I'd wake up in the morning and I'd go outside and start looking and trying to find like, you know, a couple of times I found I had a large I don't know what kind of bush it was that was right there at the corner of the house, and I found all the limbs were broken off of it.

16:15 I asked several people about it, like in my family. I was like, I keep hearing something like either hitting oring the house or oh, it's probably the deer. It's probably this, it's probably that. I thought, Okay, well, you know, probably a deer. I don't know, I don't you know, And so life just kind of moves on. I continually have experiences like that, though, but as far as hitting, hearing like things bang, and it was typically uh, late at night, but it was just a singular like it wasn't.

16:58 It wasn't like some knocking, you know, or anything like that. But it was like something slammed against my hands. Because by myself, I know this sounds very bizarre, but at that time, I didn't have any window coverings on that one window in my bedroom, and I have this gorgeous tree right outside that window. Old I don't know what kind of tree is, but I mean it's massive, and there's also a huge windmill that it's an old windmill that sits south there beside us. And so I, you know, always like to keep that window open because I loved, you know, being able to see all that and watch the birds and things like that. Well I started noticing kind of as I lived here a little bit longer.

17:49 Again by myself, I started getting all this weird, this very weird feeling that something was watching me from that tree. And you know, but again not something that scared me. And I am a huge chicken normally, I don't, you know, I'm scared of the guard and stuff like that. But for some reason, whatever it was, it wasn't making me feel uncomfortable and safe. It's almost like something was watching out for me or looking over me. And so life progressive.

18:30 Let me think that. Uh. That first experience, though, did absolutely change my feelings about going out in the forest, especially in that area late at night, something I did for diet. Though. After I had that first experience, my curiosity, you know, took the best of me, and so I continued. The way the path goes in the forest. You can go on up around where that little code area is and go deeper in the forest, and it eventually takes you, you know, about a mile and a half down the road through the forest. You wind up getting to I say, a main road. It's not a not a main road.

19:21 It's not very well traveled, but it's one of the main roads that if you wanted to get out, some people get out and let there are horses on this trail. Some people occasionally will go hiking through here. I mean it is a wild Loiss preservation area, so there are a few hiking trails, and so I went off kind of looking to see what but what would have been back here, you know? And so this kind of brings me to how I found you. Uh, And this whole fast watched community is that as I go back there, Uh, I photographed my life. I mean I photographed everything, uh, not me personally, but the uh, you know, the scenery around me. And so I'm out there taking pictures of tracks and I'm taking and I start noticing, like in this area of the forest there is a these a huge, massive, massive trees out here to me from West Texas obviously, but uh with these trees are uh there's like a whole pathway that is carved out through these trees and it and it it goes directly to uh that cove.

20:53 And so I start kind of thinking, well, okay, this just walk damage, like did the lake rise at some point, you know, I start kind of going through this, and these trees are they're not you know, broken down low like were a bunch of rushing water. I mean, these trees are snapped in half at six seven eight, I mean shoot the way above my head, and they're not uh, you know, you would expect like with wind damage. I mean, I was going through all this wind damage. Wouldn't be a pathway like this if it was water. Well I don't you know, I don't know the last time in this area that there has ever water that would ever be up that high that it would cause trees to snap like that. So I start doing research online, like you know, tree snapping in this area and the other, and you know, I kind of stumble on these beast watch communities some things, and I'm going, what, like, you know, uh, we all grew up with stories of Bigfoot, and so I thought, you know, that's so at first I started really listening simply for entertainment. It's like two different podcasts and stuff, and just kind of listening. And as I was listening, I started thinking, oh, my lord, like number one,

22:23 never knew anything about Bigfoot or sasquatch sightings or stuff in Oklahoma. Like I said, I'm not from this area, so I didn't know anything about that. But I started just kind of listening and thinking, hmm, well that sounds very familiar with the uh with what I'm seeing. Like I said, I had been documenting this trying trying to kind of come come up with what in the world might have been out there that day. But uh so I've lived here about three years now, and so time has passed. Like I said, I've had a lot of different experiences, like I said, things being hitting the house of the trees and stuff like that. But you know, about a year into living Yere, I wind up getting back in contact with a friend of mine from high school.

23:27 He has recently gone through a divorce. He's an avid hunter, fisherman, things like that. I have a little area on the side of my property that I rent out to fishermen and bird watchers and stuff like that, and so I had been promoting that. So he messaged me, Okay, so he comes out here to do that, and because he's known me, you know, we're sitting in we're talking, and I mean, I'm specifically telling him my wife, I'm going to be very honest. I think there's a big foot. It lives behind my house. And he's like, oh, okay, but all right, that's different. I was like, no, I'm serious, like, I think there's a bigfoot and I think he watches over me. And he's like, okay, Well, I said, so when you go out fishing, there's a certain area and when it starts getting like dust like you know, you probably and you start seeing the birds, you need to get on out of that area. And he was like okay, and just entertaining me, thinking, you know, she's lost her ever loving mine, and you know, fast forward a little bit longer you wind you know, we've known each other since we were ten years old. He winds up. Uh, you know, we start a relationship. So now he's involved in the story out here as well. Again, not someone that knows about fast launch, Bigfoot, nothing, none of that.

24:53 Just I constantly am telling him on the repeat my bizarre stories and things like that. And you know, living out here, I've constantly heard the very bizarre noises at night. And I'd learned through again listening to different podcasts. I guess people, if you believe in that squatch or Bigfoot, then you called them gifts or howls or things like that. And you know, as I would go back and watch videos or listen to videos that I had recorded and stuff, I started telling my fiance, now, you know, listen to that.

25:34 Do you think that is you know, associated with what we're thinking. And again he started kind of taking it more serious, and he was like, you know, he's grown up in the country, so he knows what kyotes sound like, and he knows what tracks or look like. And you know, he hunts, he fishes, he does all there. He knows bird speeds and stuff. When he started kind of becoming like curious, going that doesn't really make any sense, shill like the way that sounds, that doesn't make any sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So let me think. So we were out. One of the weirdest experiences we did have though, is that we were out on the hype. We were back at that same piece and we had both our dogs with us, and I think we've been fishing. He was teaching me how to fish and stuff like that. So as we start back the dogs. Okay on this, let me first tell you on this peak, it is probably less than twenty yards from that cove that I had my first whoa something you know is watching in that area right along that peak. The grass is well over my waistline,

27:09 you know, and so at different times of the seasons and stuff, and again the hunters. So so he started saying, well, something's betting down over here. And as we continue to look at it, he was like, honey, my gosh. You know, we've got game cameras and so we do know there's deer and a few you know, there's there's wild animals out here, but to have that many deers that bed down it, uh, you know, he was saying, like that has to be a ton of deers that are meant, you know, pushing all this down and bedding down, and it's it was right up that peak that overlooks the entire lake that right before you drop off into the forest.

27:56 So we're out to stay and and our dogs are just they won't stay out of this one area. They keep kind of running behind that bedded down area. There's a pile of trees that are very tall, and right behind that is a little clearing and my dog so we go back there to figure out what is going on, and no, that's not what happened. Actually, I'm sorry. What made us go back there was that my dog brought back a deer leg, but it was from the like the knee down. Again, I'm not a hunter, so this is all from my fiance. You know, a deer knee, I guess, but it's like no usable meat. So out of curiosity we go back there and it is the most bizarre thing I've ever seen. There is a huge area that is bed down, and right in the middle of that are at that time three legs, because my dog had taken one of them, but it is from the knee down. Now, we scoured that entire area. There was not a drops of blood. Uh, there were no other bones, like like, it's not like an animal, you know, and you know, we even looked at thinking like poachers,

29:27 and we were we were thinking all kinds of things because it made I mean, my fiance says like he's didn't see anything like that, and so uh, I mean, honestly, the only thing that was left behind besides the four legs, uh was a little, uh, little cluster of white deer tail like fur or whatever, and it in that area. We kept trying to get the dogs away from the legs because my fiancee was like, Joe, like, do you not smell that? And I was like, well, you know, I was so confute, and I was like like, yeah, but maybe it's rotted. And he's like, now this is like completely fresh. It's not the meat that's rotting.

30:18 Big, so society will be right back after these messages. And I was like, well, I mean, I don't know what any of this is or what it means, you know, And so we try to get the dogs off. We decided at this time it's getting dark, so we we head back to the house. But it's something we just continually thought about. And my other dog ran back. Once we got home, he ran back them about the miles from my house back to that point. He came back with one of those deer legs, and over the next three days both my dogs got so so sick, and uh, you know, my fiance and I kept going back and forth with that on you know that he even said, he was like, you know that is not that meat is not rotted like it wasn't. You know, we just couldn't figure out what had made the dog so sick.

31:31 So I think that experience right there again drove me to the internet and started looking. I was like, you know what, what just like picks up a deer out of nowhere? Yeah, yes, I mean so wild Yeah, this is a wildlife preserve. You can't just be out here, you know, hunting and fishing and they you know, you don't just you don't just do that now. Also in that COVID area, a few other things that we have found over the last several years is that some sort of like muscles or plans wash up. It's a it's a you know, I don't I don't know exactly what they are, but there's a bunch of them. I mean, they come in thousands of them, and in the last three years, uh, I've only found one. I've only found one that has had like a live creature still in it.

32:36 And uh, the rest of them, we're all like rip like ripped open, and we've got back and forth on like the raccoons, because there are some raccoons, rails are little tracks and stuff out there, but I mean very few in considering how many plants there are or muscles or whatever they are that are snapped open, and majority of them are in this little cod area where again I had that experience, and so kind of fast forward a little bit. Let me look, uh, I think something that kind of to be very honest, what actually caused me to wind up reaching out to you is because at this point my fiance and I are kind of like, yeah, we're we're kind of paying attention, uh now of our surroundings and we're kind of looking for different things that are that are out of whack and trying to make sense of them. Again, I have not never been somebody that just like believed. I mean, I'm not somebody that's opposed to believing the past watches exist or you know, but I was never a diehard believer I'd never moved out here to to have an experience with something like that, and so I've always been looking for other answers, like what else could this be? I mean, there's got to

34:07 be a reason these these types of things are happening. So one of our most recent this is what caused me to reach out to you. So we were, uh, we'd we'd gone through a snow this is this is just a few weeks ago. Okay, we went through a big cold spell. We had snow, so we were in the house for days on end. We think on the first pretty day where we could get out and go hiking, we just wanted to get out of the house finally and go hiking. So we're going through our trails that we normally take over the peaks and stuff like that, and again we are noticing there are so many snap trees, but there they are making they're all on trails that come from the four directly to the lakeside. And like if like if you've lived in the forest and you just made a trail that you hiped every day to get to the lake, that's what it's like. But it's massive trees again that are snapped off over over seven feet, you know, tall, but in a pass lake. So we kind of start, you know, just paying attention because we're seeing some disturbances in the ground close to these kind of areas, and there's trails and there they've looked like.

35:37 We come across a couple of different things that actually look like princes, not on the trail that we had walked, but like something that had come out of the forest come across the trail, like you know, taking a short cut and passing the trail going towards the lake. So we start looking and I like, you know, hey, come look at this, and I mean it is like tracked, tracked. Uh. I put my foot next to it. I mean it looks like a human foot almost. But whatever it is is massive because it's so deep, so large. So we start kind of I start photographing those and I and we're talking about it. I've got my dog, you know, with me. We never go out in the forest without our dogs, and they're off leash. And the most bizarre thing, Okay, we're a mile into the fort and probably a mile a mile and a half from that road. Okay, uh, where anybody could come in or out unless you lived on the reserve and so out of nowhere my dog while we're taking pictures that we're talking and out of netwhere this man appears, like on the trail. And when

37:10 I say a man, I mean unfortunately it wasn't a sasquatch. I mean this man looked like he had come off the country club golf course. He has ah the best way my fel say. I mean he looked quote unquote official is all I'm going to say, like like he just stepped off the country club golf course. Uh, he is a mile into the forest and it's a warm, pretty warm day. And whether it was or wasn't. Uh, he didn't seem scared of my dogs, which I thought was bizarre because they stopped him, you know, before he got Harris and stuff, and he was kind of like, oh, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine. But we know this, Like he doesn't have a bottle of water wiping, he's got no supplies wiping. It's like it's like this random man just appeared. Mon fiance. I said, hey, if we I said, was that not weird to you? And he was like, oh, that was very weird. I was like, okay, it's not just me and he was like, oh, it's not just you. I was like, okay, why would somebody be out here hiking like this and not have not even a bottle of water whittle? And he's like, I don't know, but he didn't look like he belonged out here.

38:20 And you know, you normally as much as I hike around out here, you know, this is not somebody I've ever seen before. Nor So I said, well, I want to get up around, go ahead and go all the way through the trail, and I want to see because you know, there's only one way in and one way out. It makes this huge circle around with the you know, uh areas that I live in, and right off that main road there is a parking area that, like I said, for people that either like to hike, or a lot of times people will park and bring their horse is down through or whatever. And so I thought, well, if he you know, we can make it back to the parking area before he can, I want to see, like what vehicle he's in. So we start hot putting it through there again, watching for you know, different tracks and stuff, which they were all through that area that just were very confusing. I photographed so many of them and we got back to that parking area and there was not a single car there. So now I say that, and again, I know my story sounds far fetched and weird, but this area, that of Oklahoma that I live in, you know, there's a lot of the people that live out here.

39:48 They are from this area. They are born and raised in this area. I am a transplant, so you know, they all look at me side for the first several years anyway, because I'm not, you know, part of their little crew out here. And but there's a bait shop that is up the road from my house. It's one of the only places you can go for gas or supplies or anything like that. And I remember when we first moved here, in the bait shop, there was a newspaper article that they had framed on the wall there that talked about you know, and I know this sounds weird, but like a secret underground military date that was here and talked about you know, uh yeah, different uh you know, like different encounters and things that had been in this area.

40:47 You know, I thought it was kind of cool, you know, the fact that it was actually in a newspaper article. You know, it wasn't just somebody on a on a blog site, you know, complaining about something, but it kind of gave a lot more of the history here. So, you know, have I at night, while I'm sitting there, trying to recount my days, thoughts that maybe they you know, this is a secret military base and maybe they saw us finding the You know, my mind has gone so many different places because I've had so many bizarre experiences. You know, talking about that tree that is right outside of my window, there are these thorns. I don't know what kind of bush or branch or whatever grows on, but it grows like a curtain almost off these trees.

41:44 I mean, it grows up from the ground, but it like envelops these trees almost like a curtain. And you know, I've been doing work on cleaning property and trimming trees and cutting trees and stuff for over two years. Something I don't know if I mentioned, but when my father purchased this property, this property had set vacant for two years. It was a foreclosed property that had just been sitting out here and the banks had finally taken it over. And it, I mean, my father pulled up on the property just like almost as the sign was going up, and so you know. So I was cleaning off years of overgrown trees and stuff like that, but this one area, you know, I hadn't been able to really clean it up because the thorn tickets or whatever are just everywhere.

42:46 And so I have to head back to West Texas to take care of my mom and just handle some business back there. So I'm gone from my property at that time for probably a week. No dogs, My dogs aren't here, my fiance isn't here, I'm not here, nobody's here. The property is just here vacant. And so when I get back after like I said, about a week, and that's probably about the longest I've ever been gone, I am checking the property kind of just making sure things are in order and stuff. And I don't know what you ask my eye, but as I'm looking at that area where that tree is outside my window and I start noticing, I'm thinking, what has happened to all those like thorn tickets? You know? They were almost like pulled apart in the most bizarre way, almost like you would open curtains in a dramatic way. It was almost what it was like. And it went all the way up like almost to that to one of the main branches.

44:00 It's a huge tree and so I mean it's probably ten foot in the air. And I mean it was so bizarre and cleaned out, like something had come through the forest standing by that tree, opened those branches and just stepped through. And so get on the phone, take tons of pictures, you know, so I can go back and look at you know, to proved to my fiance I'm not crazy. I'm no. He's like, no, I get what you're saying, Like that doesn't make any sense. So there was that experience, I will say after weird thing though, after we had that experience just a few weeks ago with that man appearing on the trail as we're taking photographs of what we consider some sort of weird footprints or track or trail. A couple of days after that, and I actually went back just to be sure that my memory was correct. H Okay at that time, Okay, that one I think. I mean, it was well after midnight, and it seemed like right outside a window over in that area by that tree is I guess what people might consider tree knocking or something. But it was so lu we were asleep. We both shot up out of bed because I mean it sounded like like we were

45:33 being invaded. Whatever it was was hitting so hard. Again, I guess a tree. I mean, that's the only thing that makes sense that would make that noise big. So society would be right back after these messages. And then a few days after that. It's right before like right before morning, but it's still dark down and I mean it sounds I live in like a metal building.

46:19 I'll just say that much of it like a barn dominium type thing. And it I don't think I've ever heard anything that loud that did not actually cause any major damage. But again, shot, We both shot out of bed. I thought a piece of furniture had like fallen over on my son or something. We jump offward, looking all around the house. I mean, it was so loud it shook the house and we both go outside. We're looking for anything. We can't find anything that's there. Yes, but that's when it. Was right gifts and how but right, that's yeah, that's uh when uh but anyway, that yeah, that's I'm sorry, I'll.

47:10 Track on that. But you know, whatever hit the house at that moment, like I said, it was, it was startling because I've recorded so much and Like I said, over the last probably a couple of months, is things have just seen more off. I've started listening. You know, I'm not from this area, so a lot of things I just thought were certain animals and just thought, uh but over the last several especially the last several weeks, uh at inch and I know that sounds weird. The granted I've checked my game cameras. I do know there's skunks in this area. It's so I'm not saying it is, but I am saying it is potent by my house.

47:58 Uh And and the game cameras that I have seen have been out further towards you know, out because I have dogs that I keep out all night, so they're typically not you know, anything running around that's small. My dogs are gonna chase off or good. In fact, my son was Autism's twenty twenty one. He smelled it even as he's kind of stepped. I had the front door open, and he was like, Mom, you know you've got to shoot the front door. I think there's a skunk out there. And I was like, I know. Well that same night, and nights fleeding up to that is when manfiance and I have been hearing all these weird gifts and howls.

48:42 And again, we're no experts, you know, I'm just giving my account. I'm not saying this is what it is. But you know, he's a hunter, you know, he he knows what kyotes sound like, he knows what animals sound like. And I think what has always thrown me is how loud it gets when we're hearing that. And you know, I have seen many, many types of dead animals around the property, but I cannot say that I have ever out here seen a kyote or seen evidence of a kyote being killed or you know, even hit hit by something on the road or anything. And so this one night, this was just a few nights ago. We had heard again the night before, lost of yips and hows, and I needed loud, loud already close, and you couldn't tell what direction it was coming from, Like, you know, he kept thinking he was hearing it over here, and I was like, I think I'm hearing it over here. Like we couldn't really tell exactly where it was coming from. Well, that next day, when he gets home from work, I said, I want to go out there. I want to go out there and like see like let's see if there's kaioks, like any tracks, any traces or traps or anything out

50:13 there that's gonna make sense. I mean, if there's that many kyoks that are around our property, I feel like we should be able to know nothing, absolutely nothing. As we get off further out in this kind of open field behind my property that is you know, it's actually owned by the core of Army of engineers, and you know, we start noticing these huge vetted down areas again, just like I was talking about. There's this one massive tree that's in the middle of the property. Again, it's covered and surrounded by these thorns and these branches, but something big is able to pop down enough there was like this like a pathway. I mean to me, it's as if like when you were a kid, if you made a fort. You know, That's that's what the tree with the thorn tickets hanging off of it looked like. And in the middle it's all betted down, and then all the way around it is all betted down. There's several huge areas in this open field. Uh. And again I've seen deer, but this is so much larger than like just if a family of deer were sitting out there and in the middle of that, I start we start finding like little dead animal, like little animals, dead animal,

51:48 typically just the head, just the skull. The rest of the animal was gone. In one of the betted down areas, we found exactly the same thing, just one little patch of what looked like a little deer tail. And then what was that. Just a few nights ago we had our dogs out again and that I think was kind of our last experience. I want to tell you about that. Just it's just thezar out of nowhere in that back area over there by the over there by the tree.

52:29 My dog alert. This is when we're hearing tons of hows yep, different things. I got my dog, My both my dogs actually are dead steal to start, and they're looking in the direction over in the forest, neither one of them moving, and uh, my oldest dog, who's my biggest protector, he wound up taking off whatever was running behind my house in that force. Whatever it was, I mean, it sounded bit Uh. Rocco was chasing it and wound up having the phone, you know, uh, trying to capture like what is he chasing? Is it? Is it? Is it that skunk? I might be smelling. But whatever it was, I mean he was grollying and snart. Something was grolly and snarling. I will just say that. I'd say it was rocco. Uh. He was tussling with something. He wound up chasing it out into the forest behind the house.

53:33 We wound up following. Again. We never fully I can't say we saw anything. I will say we went out there the next day again trying to find what was out there. It felt like if it was a skunk, the way he was like chasing number one, it had to be a massive skunt. But number two, it was a spraying. Uh. Whatever it was he was tracking and chasing down or whatever. Uh, it was fast, it was large, and there's no evidence of it like having like an animal, having anything ripped off of it, like if my dog had grabbed it or anything like that. So again, you know, I just wanted to tell my story because, to be very honest, I have found this whole past watch of bigfoot theory. You know, it's kind of made me a full believer, not not from listening to podcasts and not from anything like that, but because I feel like I've had these experiences out here in an area. You know, I know nothing about and in my research in trying to find you know, what animals live out here, what could be in this area and what noises is this, I stumbled on this community and so you know, I know, I don't have any fantastic stories of necessarily make an eye contact or you know, uh, you know, but whatever

55:05 it is, there is something out here in this area, and I you know, I don't have a fearful feeling of what it is. Of course, again, I'm not a hunter, you know, I don't kill animals. I try to be very respectful of the land. I try to you know, care for the property and try to be as respectful as as I can be to anything out here. And so you know, in my theory, I hope that it it knows if I am living in its presence, that it knows that I'm not here to hurt it. I'm not here to to do anything except just live my life.

55:46 But I just wanted to share my story and just kind of let you know the crazy things going on out here. And ohhaw, Chillian, that is quite the account that you've had so far being a journal of what's going on. Yes, okay, yeah, good, good, good. That is my number one advice to anyone listening that is having weird stuff happen. Start keeping a journal and write it all down, because if this goes on for years, you'll eventually you'll you'll probably forget details. So I'm glad you're doing that. I have a few questions for you, definitely, Jillian. And do you mind if I refer to your son in some of those questions as well?

56:31 No? Absolutely cool? Thank you. So you said you have a twenty one year old autistic son, Yes, sir, okay. And when you were living at home, was he also there with you? Yes? Now are are you talking about here on the property? Yeah? Yes. Now I don't know if this is where you might be going. I'm glad you said this, and I apologize for interrupting. But every almost every encounter I have had, including the first one. I don't know if this makes any sense, but uh, like I was trying to tell my fiance, I've had more experiences like when he was gone or going through certain things, and maybe that's what makes me kind of feel like whatever this is, I almost have a protective like that it's protecting me in some weird way, like I feel like it's looking over me.

57:37 And also I don't know, but I apologize for interrupting. Go ahead. That's interesting. So you did you say you would have more things go on when he was not there? Yes, yes, that's really really interesting. That's I was going to guess that would be the opposite, but that's that is and he's he's not non vibal. Oh I'm sorry when my I'm sorry, more experiences when my fiance was not here, not my son. Oh okay, okay, Oh interesting, So what about when your son is there opposed to when he's not there.

58:19 He's always here? Oh okay, m No, my fiance again is from West Texas, so he's just recently moved to Oklahoma. So when he would go back and work in West Texas, you know, my son and I were still here for well over a year by ourselves, and that's when I would have, you know, a lot of experiences. Okay. And is he is your son nonverbal at all? No? He uh, now, he's twenty one, but he was nonverbal? Okay, oh he was? Oh yeah, Oh yeah. We went through a lot. You know, his communications style is still challenging, but you know, we were able to get a lot of therapy and do a lot of work. But he was nonverbal for a very long time.

59:13 Okay, and all of that was done well before you start having these experiences, right, yeah, okay, cool, cool, that's that's really interesting. I don't know if have you ever listened to that this is a rabbit trail for like half a minute? Hopefully have you listened to the telepathy tapes at all as a podcast? Oh, it's really interesting. It's a study being done into nonverbal autistic individuals and things that to see if they're able to do certain things. I if you're interested in that subject, I would recommend checking it out. But back to what's at hand. So you had mentioned before that there was the window of your bedroom that did not have a covering on it. Correct, yes, but does that now have a covering on it?

1:00:11 It does, but I keep it open at night. Big for Society will be right back after these messages. Okay, interesting, Okay. Yeah, I don't know, Yeah, I don't. I don't know what it is, but I do keep it. I still keep it open at night. I know this sounds weird, but I feel like whatever is out there where because I had this weird all I did to say, is of a weird feeling of relationship with whatever it was out there. When I lived completely you know, by myself and stuff, that, uh, I almost felt like if I kept like where whatever it was could see me, and there's there, this is a this is not a heavily populated area out here, so I mean it's you know, but I just felt like saying went smoothly. I don't know, like I almost feel like when I shut things down and put curtains and stuff like that, that's when I hear a lot more knocks and stuff.

1:01:38 Okay, I I was, Yeah, that's kind of what I was trying to get at. Is if you close the curtain, if you noticed more activity, it sounded like that that kind of is the case. Yeah, it's very interesting. Hmmm. Like I said, prior to this, I joked with people my brother are very few people because you know, I was afraid what people would think. But I kind of have a dark sense of humor. And when I would tell my brother or you know, my fiance about something that I had experienced prior to him being here and stuff, I would even say, like, you know, I mean, I honestly think this like bigfoot thing out here might possibly have a crush on me, So don't be mean to me, because right right, I was like, you know, I mean.

1:02:37 New listeners might be like, oh, this is kind of a weird group of questions, but if you have listened to a lot of episodes, you will notice that this kind of comes up sometimes where they'll be like the window in the room will not have a covering over and I think it's a thing where there's you know, you hear that there's a curiosity with what is bigfoot? Is that? And if you know, a lot of times we're kind of their their TV or their entertainment in a way. So yeah, it feels like there could be something there.

1:03:19 Yeah, yeah, that does make sense. I mean, like I said, the first experience, like I mean, I'm out there with a phone, you know, dancing too a TikTok in the middle of the forest. I mean I could see how something could be like what in the heck is this thing doing here like that this this area. I mean, it was probably well over a year before I even tell my first person on the trail out there, So this is not like this area that uh that I live in. It's it's uh like right, Now, a lot of my neighbors are elderly. Uh they've all lived out here forever. Uh, they're not out hiking. So it's just a very quiet part of this I call it the peninsula because in order to get to this property, you have to cross multile you know, a couple of bridges, and you are we are kind of drag out in the middle of the lake in the forest.

1:04:31 Have you ever talked to some of your older neighbors or any of your neighbors to see if they have experienced anything weird in the area. Well, I haven't. Now, Uh, there's a little local uh community. There's two things out here. There's a big shop and a little local dive bar and where all the locals go. And they joke with me because, uh, you know, I I again new nothing about this phenomenon of fast watches in the area. And I went on a vacation to a casine. I was here and found some bigfoot details and like one holding a fishing pole and you know, like funny little things, and I put them on the back of my truck. So they all joke with me.

1:05:21 They're like, still, you know, that's the old bigfoot girlfriend out there, And you know, so I kind of have a reputation for being the weird eyes. I don't know. These people are very uh. They don't talk a lot about anything, especially, like I said, I'm a transplant. They all know each other's secrets, but nobody's telling them to me, so I just keep to myself. But yeah, there's kind of a running joke that you know, I'm bigfoot, girlfriends run around out here. Well, there you go. That might turn into something eventually where people might start talking to you. It might take a few more years, but I've heard of stuff that doesn't happen before.

1:06:02 Right, very closed off, very closed community. Absolutely, the dead animals around the property. Is there ever anything with its neck broken? Hmmm? Well, all my chickens have their neck broken. Okay, I forgot, but yeah, I raised chickens for a while. All my chickens had their neck broken. Okay, Oh well, yes, I don't know, because typically all I find is the head.

1:06:43 I rarely and then occasionally you'll find some of like the little hip bones and things. But typically I just find skulls, which I have found weird that I've found several in my yards that are like clean to the bone, like a skull or something clean to the bone that wasn't there literally the day before, like I would have noticed. I mean, my property is decent size, but I walk it almost every day, and so you know, I wouldn't typically have an animal out there just you know, decaying and not know it. So I have found that that I've almost I mean I've started collecting all the different like skulls and bones and stuff. I mean, people either pass away and they come and just check my house, they're probably going to be very disturbed by all.

1:07:35 Be okay, there's lots of unpack with what just was said. So you're you're actually just finding the chicken skulls, not not well, not a chicken when it's a neck broken. Now my personal chickens had their neck broke. But no, yeah, I had a coup for a bit. Now I found like on my property, like I found two dead owls. I have found count like I said, just countless little varmins.

1:08:20 I don't you know. I think my most recent was like an armadillo and I was trying to figure out what killed it because whatever it was, he I mean, he was still intact, but whatever it was like snatched. It could have been one of those big birds. But whatever it was snatched in behind the neck. Okay, he's in my freeze as well. Okay, gotcha? Is anything you find anything any animals out there? Are they their bodies look like they've been run out, wrung out, or twisted, or are just in a weird configurations besides of broken.

1:09:03 Eyes, gars uh, the alligator guars or the guars that are out here in the lake. H found a few of them twisted up. I think. I think that's about like I said, most of the time, it's literally just h like a skull. I mean, it's the weirdest thing. It's like, I don't know, I've just I've been collecting for some reason, lots of little skulls of things. I don't even know what. I can't even fully identify what the animal is, but the skulls, you know, when you kill it up, you just pop a ten.

1:09:51 It's like that's what's happened into these small animals getting there, getting picked up and their heads get popped off. That makes sense. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, I'm on I'm on board with that. Alligator gar is the long fish with the long uh it looks weird, right, yes, yes. Yes, And all the alligator guards that I have found have been in that same cove. It's that same cove that has that butts right up to the forest. In that one area, I cannot tell you to countless uh gars uh. That's where all those clams or muscles or whatever.

1:10:36 And I mean these same that that I'm finding. I mean they're bigger than my hands. And it's like if you were sitting in a restaurant you cracked open a clam and you know, pulled it what is it a client clam or muscle or what you know, and popped it open. That they're all open mm hmm. Very right, Just very bizarre. And I just want to check something else about the guard. So are you finding them and they're in the water. Are they up on the land and they're messed. Up up on the land?

1:11:16 Okay? And can you describe specifically what they look like when you find them on the land. Well, I've got most of their carcasses yere, So like I'm looking at one right, like one of them is all. One of them is twisted. A lot of them are torn. Yeah, they look like they've been torn in half. So most of them are just the head and like they're they're good size. It almost looks like something or yeah, they are. They I've never found one that has been fully intact.

1:11:57 They've always been mouth separated. All. Yeah, And you've never lost a pet right on this property? Well no, I have not. No, And you know, I was trying to before this interview started. I was trying to listen and I will listen to it when we get off of this again. Whatever my dog chased the other night, whatever that growling and starling, Like I said, it was a very bizarre. And the weird thing is, you know my dogs running past. I have two male dogs that are trained to be guard dogs, and it was only the one dog that went after. The other dogs literally fat right beside my fiance and I and did not move, and you know they go everywhere together.

1:12:58 But whatever it was, it was like my my younger dogs was like absolutely not, like I'm not going after whatever that is. So that's interesting. Now I have had neighbors that have had dogs go missing, all right, but I have I have actually I only actually have one true neighbor, I guess she could say. And she had like a little pit mix that she had forever and then wound up getting a new puppy, and she wound up coming into my house just a couple of weeks after that, you know, looking for dogs, and she's never found them.

1:13:43 So so that to me, if if I want to theorize, it sounds like we're not going to mess with the pets of Bigfoot girlfriend, but the other pets area are kind of fair game. Unfortunately. To be very honest, I kind of think, yeah. Oh man, So once you had said that that property had been vacant for two years and then it was purchased and then stuff was like cleared that alone, I was like, oh yeah, this is totally I mean, this is fitting profile, like crazy. Are there any other weird items or objects that are left around your property close to the house besides the dead animals or skulls?

1:14:41 No? Okay not really. When you are out filming tiktoks, have you ever caught anything weird daring those like any interactions or weird sounds or anything. Well, I mean I have. I'm always recording, so anytime at night, if I'm out by the fire, I've got lots of different recordings of just the noises that are going on around me, especially the different hopes or yelts or like sometimes it gets so loud you would honestly think that, Like I think what kind of started making me suspicious about this might not be? Is it sounded like a bunch of eight bad boons, like something you would hear in the I mean, it was like, oh, it was just this, but it was so loud, and it was just coming from what felt like multiple directions.

1:15:53 Big so society will be right back after these messages. And it just it struck me as being extremely odd. That's really interesting. I'm glad that it's not just you on the property anymore, although you are definitely okay to take care of yourself for sure, But there's, uh, there's some weird stuff, man, the stuff that I'll say this everything taking everything into consideration, that's a weird property.

1:16:50 Jillian agreed. I agree. I man, I wouldn't put it past it that it gets weirder as well. Well. I know this sounds bizarre, but that's it. I almost feel like since I reached out and contacted your organization, like I almost feel far. Maybe it's my own anxiety about it, but I almost feel like, uh, things have gotten especially the yells. Uh. And it was after I contacted you that, like I said, woke up in the middle of the night with those huge bangs that sounded like I mean, it almost sounded like somebody was shooting a shotgun outside of our house. But I mean it it was on repeat. It's like I have that I mean so loud. And then uh then right before you know, dawn having that massive thing more like a sledge. Yeah it was, but it it was so loud, echoing right through again that one window. And but and also over the last two days that is when we have had that horrific odor. That right, m hm. So you know again,

1:18:21 I'm somebody that tries to look at both sides of the coin, and I'm like, I could just be acust Julie. You do live in the middle of nowhere. It would be this with the experiences kind of put all together is what makes me. That's what kind of started putting the puzzle pieces. And that's why I wanted to reach out because, like I said, this is not this is not something that I do. This has never been an interest of mine. This is not something I'm trying to make something fit. I just wanted to share my experiences and see if people that knew better and what just think to stomach. So now I'm documented at all. Like I said, I've got so many photos and video and audio and just things that you know, if it's explained a way perfect and if it's something more.

1:19:16 Perfect, yeah, absolutely. And it sounds like everything that's out of the ordinary is happening outside the house. Correct, Yes, that's great, that's really good. And all outside that window. Right right, but nothing inside here. And then do you feel like there's ever been any type of communication back and forth between you and them besides things that have already been mentioned, like wood knocks or anything. I don't the only thing I can say. And then again it sounds very bizarre, but there, you know, I've lived here three years and through that experience the death of my father, death of my father ex father in law, you know, a lot of trauma, a lot of this, and so you know, thankfully I am in the middle of nowhere where I can go to the end of my property and cry and you know, have a have a pity party or whatever I need to do grief.

1:20:28 And I know it sounds bizarre, but I feel like every time that I'm in like a state of like grieving like, really that tends to be when I feel like whatever is out there, it moves forward, it moves closer. And that's the only way, like I said, it just I've never seen anything. I cannot tell you I've ever made eye contact. If I did, i've maybe you know, passed over it just didn't know. But it is just that feeling when you know something is watching you. And that's all I can say. And and it's not something low.

1:21:11 It's not a cat, it's not hallged, it's not you know, it's something that is up in the tree looking down. That's the only way I can explain. And it's it's to other people that maybe have never experienced it, I can understand how and be like, well, maybe you know you need counseling, but probably do. But that is the true feeling that I get that there is something out there, and it doesn't feel like whatever it is, it doesn't feel like multiple. It feels like something like one that likes to hang out around my property. But yeah, the betting areas are very, very large. But I will say so.

1:22:07 That's man, this is such an interesting story, Jillian. I'm so glad you reached out. And I would say if you can keep in touch with me because I think it's it's going to continue potentially. I mean there'll be other stuff that happens, for sure, but you know, I would love to keep up to date with you. As we start to to kind of wind down a little bit, are there any other things that you wanted to make sure that you you got shared that you haven't been able to share yet? I really think for the most part, Uh well, uh, now we'll say our game cameras have all been missed with.

1:22:51 Now this is something you know, Uh I don't. I don't know it's just going to make any sense, but I'm just gonna tell you my because I think it's weird. Okay. So as I started having these experiences, I started getting game cameras set up around the property. So one of the game cameras I did set up right beside because that big tree that's right outside that window, there's many smaller trees around it. So I set it up facing my windows. Not necessarily to catch a sasquatch or anything, but I just wanted to know like what was knocking or what was rubbing like. So early on in getting the game cameras set up, I would go check them and there would be you know, a deer, there would be a squirrel, there would be you know, just some birds.

1:23:47 I mean, just different things that were setting it off. Nothing, nothing, you know, crazy within the last probably six months, you know, I would go in and notice first I noticed the game camera was turned upside down, like it was completely like shifted upside down. Okay, so that could have been an animal. No, no big deal. I would go pull the footage and start reviewing it. Okay, it doesn't sound weird, but I and I can send you the photos because I don't really know what it is. Again, a lot of people joke that out here or you know, there have been series that there's an underground base and you know they're housing a bunch of aliens. I mean, you know, the stories get crazy. But on the game cameras, you know, nothing nothing, nothing, no animal, no nothing on this side of the house but different. H all I can say is different beams of light. Different. I mean it looks uh, very very It's extremely bizarre. And the crazy thing is they are outside my window, so I don't know what that is. I have yet to you know, investigate any further. Uh.

1:25:19 But on the opposite side of my property where I have game cameras right right, so on the opposite side of the property though, is where you'll catch the animals. But the one right outside of my window, all of a sudden, there's there's no evidence the squirrel's gone. There's no deer running around over there anymore, I mean nothing. Just that's right. That's that area where that path was created in the tree line. That's the exact same area.

1:26:09 It's all, it all seems to be centered around this specific area behind my house. That's even another I mean, it's got so many twists and turns, I know, yeah, to know that the light there's lights involved as well, which totally makes sense, you know, based off of everything else I've heard. Yeah, makes sense. Jillian, I don't know. I mean, I you know, I I've gone back and forth going I mean, this is it. I mean that was like do these things like shape shift? Like what like what why is nothing being caught? But yet it I mean it looks like it's obvious and it's it's in with the cant the way the camera takes the photos, it's just second to part and it's like one second nothing second huge being the light nothing the next second.

1:27:09 It's just very very bizarre. And it's all in these hours, you know, you know, three am before you know, Vaughn. So you know, I can't explain everything going on out here. I just know whatever it is, I just I just wanted to share my story and those that know far far more than men can figure it out from here. But whatever it is, there is something. I just know that there is something. There definitely is and it'll be interesting to see what you might experience next. But I want to say thank you to both of you for or spending some time with me today and for sharing what you both are experiencing in that area.

1:27:56 Well, thank you. I've enjoyed getting to tell our story, and like I said, I was super nervous, but you helped me feel far more comfortable and I appreciate just hearing this out. And like I said, I don't know that I ever look forward to coming face to face with anything like that. But until then, I'll just be known as Bestquatch's girlfriend out in the Southern no Blob. There you go. That's awesome. All right, I'm gonna go ahead and stop recording real quick. Just wanted to take a few minutes to say thank you to you all my listeners for listening to the podcast.

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