Sept. 19, 2024

Creepy Mountain Sasquatch with Spencer Jamison!

Join the Bigfoot Society as we delve into the compelling wilderness experiences of Spencer Jamison from the Woodwalkerz YouTube channel. Spencer shares his unique journey from teaching wilderness survival to encountering possible Bigfoot signs and...

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Season 1

Join the Bigfoot Society as we delve into the compelling wilderness experiences of Spencer Jamison from the Woodwalkerz YouTube channel. Spencer shares his unique journey from teaching wilderness survival to encountering possible Bigfoot signs and structures. His captivating stories include eerie nights in graveyards and spine-chilling encounters in Daniel Boone National Forest. Learn about his intriguing use of an RF meter to detect unusual activity and hear about the mysterious occurrences at Creepy Mountain in Alabama.Don't miss Spencer's firsthand account of how his close encounters transformed him into a believer.

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All right, bigfost Society, You've got the privilege of talking

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to Spencer Jamison today. He is an individual from the

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Woodwalkers YouTube channel that's Woodwalkers with a Z At the end,

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I'll have the link in the show notes, but it's

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one of the shows I like to listen to most

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Sunday afternoons is when they are on, and they have

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some great conversations I really enjoy. But Spencer, thank you

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so much for being on the show today.

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Oh, thank you for having me on Jeremiah.

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Absolutely, you know, I would love to start. You know

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where a lot of these interviews will start is Spencer,

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what got you into the whole wild bigfoot game to

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begin with?

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Actually, it's kind of It's not like other people. Other people,

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you know, they they had an encounter, they had some

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kind of experience that was bigfoot related and it made

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them start looking into it. And mine was nothing like that.

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I I took and helped talk well a lot of things,

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but the big thing was a wilderness survival. So so

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I was often out in the woods with groups of

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people doing wilderness survival and that was years and years

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and years of my life, along with you know the

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average stuff, hunting, fishing, camping, everything. Well, let me see,

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my oldest day is eleven now, and we homeschooled our kids,

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so I guess it was ten years ago something like that.

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Whenever they were just teeny tiny, they had YouTube on

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and we paused YouTube or YouTube was still playing in

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the background, and I was trying to start like a

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preschool thing for the girls, and whenever they got done.

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I actually can't remember exactly how it happened. If it

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was right as we were starting or whenever they were

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done with the little preschool lesson thing, I looked up

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and there just happened to be a NK. Davis video playing,

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and it was doing the breakdown of like the Patterson

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Gimlin film, and it was showing some of the stuff

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like the hematoba in the leg and like the scapular

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movement and everything, and I just remember looking at it, like,

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you know that that looks real to me. And I'd

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never been closed minded the Bigfoot that I had never been.

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I don't know, I just didn't really consider bigfoot. And

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I mean, I was in the woods all the time,

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and like you hear a lot of people say, and

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I just I don't know. It kind of surprised me

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whenever I was really and I had seen that video

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when I was a little kid, but not like the

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in depth analysis of it that mister Davis was on.

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And then a couple of days go by and another

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video comes on and it was a big Foot Outlaws video,

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and I guess it was just that thing where YouTube

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plays videos that are similar to other stuff that you

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watched before. And I saw a few minutes of that,

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and then later you know, there was more suggested on

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there and I started watching them and then it kind

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of just got in my head that man, if these

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thing's real, there should be something out there that I

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should be able to find. I mean, I've you know,

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I'm not a good tracker, but I've got you know,

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tracker training and all kinds of stuff like that. And

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I went out in the woods and next thing I know,

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I'm finding possible uh stick manipulation and structures and stuff

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like that. And a little while later found what I

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thought was my first track, and you know, then I'm

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really like, I just don't know what is going on.

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So I started reaching out to people on YouTube and

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every Facebook and everything off of YouTube shows that I

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was watching, and eventually I got in contact with a

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couple of people and I got invited to an outing

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and it was a really private thing. It was a

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Bigfoot outlaws outing and I guess I was the only

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outside person there and they did calls, I heard replies,

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trees got pushed over, all kinds of crazy stuff, and uh,

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I mean that was my first time actually really experiencing

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the stuff firsthand. And I just whenever I left from

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that alley, I knew, I mean I didn't see one,

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but we had a lot of stuff happened, especially at

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that graveyard. Stuff got thrown at us branches, broke growls

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or distant distant screams and everything. And I left that

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and I just I knew. I was convinced that they

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existed and been doing it ever since.

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Wow, that is incredible. So you it sounds like you

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were big footing in a graveyard somewhere.

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Well, we were in Daniel Boone Nashville forest and I

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got you know, whenever I got invited to this, and uh,

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I was super excited because the big Foot Outlaws is

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kind of like I guess everybody has to kind of

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pick their their tour guide whenever you get into this stuff.

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And at that point, that was like the show that

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I watched quite heavily. Uh, and I'd seen every single

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one of the episodes that were available on YouTube, and uh,

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I was reaching out to members of that of of

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the big Foot Outlaws, and uh, when I got invited,

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you know, it's about a it's about a six hour

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ride from my place to where the meeting was, and

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I was so gung ho to go. And then as

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I'm getting closer and closer, especially within an hour or so,

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I'm like, you know, in my head, I'm like, are

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you insane? Because I had never met I never met

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anybody in the bigfoot world. I don't I don't come

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from the bigfoot world. I come from a very regular,

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just hunting, fishing, camping kind of world. And as I'm

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getting closer and closer, I'm like, here, I am going

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to you know, Kentucky to go look for Bigfoot with

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a bunch of people that I just met online and

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I've never met him in person. I don't know anything

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about him. And I tell you what though, that that

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right there was such a lucky chance of fate for me.

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I met some of the greatest people in the world

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that I'm still friends with, and in the bigfoot world

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in general, I've met people in the past whatever it's

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been seven eight years that I just consider family at

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this point. And I mean, so much stuff happened at

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that one particular, my very first unitual experience with all

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this stuff. So much stuff happened, and it was it

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was no doubt in my mind conclusive what it was

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and what was doing it. But yeah, that's how it

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kicked off in them right there at the end. There

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are a lot of graveyards, old old graveyards that are

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they're not really well manicured or taken care of, but

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they have signs. And I'm sure for a lot of

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people that have been to Daniel Boon, especially the lower

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end of Daniel Bone in the southern point of it,

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they know exactly what I'm talking about. But there are

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many graveyards up there. And to be honest, when they

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took me up in that graveyard, the way that it

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actually went was that night. That was the second night

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that I was there. I was with most of the

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people that were camping there, but not all of them

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as far as the meet and Greek kind of thing went.

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And they went out and did some calls. That was

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my first time experiencing that. I didn't know anything about

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the calls or how they did them, or how it

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would work. They went out and did some calls and

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they ended up getting a replied vocal on the second

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call I think it was, and it was it was

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pretty far off. And I'm not I'm not an expert

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on all types of wildlife, but you know, I'm a

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I'm from North Carolina and lived in Virginia for a

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long time now, But I mean I'm fairly familiar with

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animal sounds, and whenever I heard it, it was pretty

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plain to me that you know, that was a booker.

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I mean, it wasn't. It wasn't a coyote that I

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will say. And we can talk about this later, but

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there is no doubt whenever you hear it in person,

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and audio doesn't do it justice. Audio doesn't capture it,

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it doesn't translate it the right way. You can look

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at it on a spectrograph and you can kind of

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a feel for it. But when you hear vocalizations in person,

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they're impressive. And I mean, if you've got any woodsiness

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to you add on your huge to animals, you can

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very easily make a kind of a quick decision stay.

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I I don't think that was you know, a regular

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animal known uh you know species rightnant in that area,

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an indigenous species. But they went out and they did calls.

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We got a reply. It was far away. It was

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impressive to me because I never heard it before. I

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think we stopped at one more spot after that they

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did calls. I don't remember getting a reply there, and.

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Then they said, uh, all right, we're gonna stop at

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this one graveyard and I'm riding in the car with

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like four of them, and we've got several vehicles.

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There's you know, handful of a scolling And as soon

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as they said that, I just in my head, I

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was like, man, they are trying to haze me or

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initiate me, or they think I'm gonna be creeped out

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because We're going to a cemetery. And I'd heard other

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people say on some of these YouTube shows about like boogers.

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I refer to Bigfoot as boogers, y'all, just so everybody knows.

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But I've heard other people say bookers like cemeteries everything.

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But in my head, I was like that, you know,

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there's no way anything's gonna happen just because it's cemetery.

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And uh, we parked at the bottom of the hill.

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We walk up this road to the cemetery and not long,

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maybe a couple hundred yards, and we get up there

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and everybody gets quiet, and they've got cameras going and

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recorders going, night vision thermals, all that kind of stuff.

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And one of the one of the guys there who

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I'm friends with now I didn't know, and then but

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he did a call and a couple minutes later. I

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think it started with a distant yell, but I can't

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swear to that. I'd have to go back and listen

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to the audio to remember exact detail. But he did

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a call, and then I think there was a distant,

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possible vocal. And then this is the freaking part. This

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is the part here that I knew something was going on,

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and I knew it wasn't them. It was almost like

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a switch got hit, and it's like you could feel

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static electricity in there. You could feel a presence. Things

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got quiet, like even the bugs they didn't they didn't

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go dead completely quiet, but every thing it was like

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a cloud came over that whole spot. I mean, you

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could tangibly feel it. It was weird. Something that thrown.

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It hit the ground. I think it was probably a branch,

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but we were standing there in darkness. I don't think

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anybody really saw it. But it hit the gravel, the

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gravel road that we had walked up, and we all

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kind of, you know, it turned and looked. I jumped

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at that because just the feeling and everything so much

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was going on, you know it, It made me jump.

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And then something got thrown from the other side and

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I've got people like Debbie Jones going, did you hear that?

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Did you see it? Did you see where it landed?

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And I'm like, no, I don't know what's going on

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because I expected this whole thing to be a joke

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and it kind of caught me off guard. And then

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a rather large branch gat broke or a small tree

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gap push now, and then there was another growl or

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scream that was get team closer. It's possible that the

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third thing got thrown. I cannot quite remember, uh, but

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after about five minutes that you know, maybe maybe this

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whole thing took five minutes to happen. I'm standing there

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just like just like I don't know. I wasn't freaking out,

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but I was just kind of in awe and and

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waiting to see if anything else was going to happen.

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And when it ended, whatever was there, that presence, that

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stag electricity, that that cloud, that feeling. It's it's very

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hard to describe, but it's a very certain thing you

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and one thousand percent tell something is happening. When it left,

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it's like it hit a switch and everything went back

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to normal. You could feel it leave. And that was

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the second night and then and then we did have

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some stuff happened on the third day in the third ninth,

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but that was the second night, and after that I

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was I was one on it because whatever I had

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just felt, I'd never experienced that before, and I mean

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I knew there was something to it.

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So that was it sounds like that was the experience.

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Then that pretty much pushed you. Uh, there is no

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coming back to how Spencer was before that. I mean, yeah,

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that's that's the turning point. And I totally get that

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because that was that was Oregon in this summer.

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For me.

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It after coming back from that, I was not the

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same person. It's very hard to explain.

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But.

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You you get changed somehow, and uh, just it's all different.

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Just the way that you look at everything regarding this

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subject is totally different. Hm hmm, it's weird. It's weird. Spencer,

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I'm still working through it big for society. Who will

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be right back after these messages? After that, did you

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did you regularly go out and start researching for Bigfoot

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after that experience.

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Or yes, I had been before. Now the way that

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the way that I do it, in the way that

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a lot of my friends and I do it as

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we have areas where we're at. I'm in southwestern Virginia.

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I have managed to find a handful of spots around

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me that have activity, but it's it's it's not activity

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like what I find in LBL Laying between the Lakes,

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or North Georgia or Alabama. I've been concentrating a lot

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on Alabama for the past couple of years. But we

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all have areas around us that we go out and

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that we actively monitor. You know, a lot of us

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we'll go privately camping every couple of months, you know,

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and look for sign everything like that. I've got spots

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that I go to and I'm a big person that

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always checks for like tracks and possible stick structure and manipulation.

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And sometimes I'll do gifting and go check and see

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if anything is changed with that. At I'm also in

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those areas because I'm dropping off and picking up recorders

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fairly often. But a lot of us do stuff like that.

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But then we also get together several times a year

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to go to certain places. And I'm not talking about

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the meet and greets that we do. I'm talking about

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getting together privately as just a handful of us and

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actually going there and camping and going further in the

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woods and looking for stuff like that. You know. But yeah,

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after that happened, I was hooked and started going out

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with some of the friends I had made quite regularly

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after that.

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So you I mean Southwest Virginia over to Alabama. That's

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quite a trip. That's got to be more than a

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few hours.

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It's about it's about eight and a half for where

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I normally go, but LBL is almost ten for me,

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and I go to LBL pretty much once a year.

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I've been there more than once a year, but almost

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once a year I go to l be able to

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make a tulgrimage there. There's a lot of driving.

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Involved, absolutely, and that's just one way I mean that.

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That's pretty wild. So you are going to some pretty

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intense places. Are there any things that come to mind

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that you could share about, Like you're in this one

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place and just it got pretty pretty intense when you're

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out there.

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Well, let me go back and touch on what happened

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at the end of Daniel Big the first time I

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met everybody on Night three. On Night three, at this

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point you could do you could do a three or

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four hour show and you could have multiple people on

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here talking about their experiences that were that were there

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at the same time that I was there. Uh. But

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but during that trip down there, on night one, uh,

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there were at least one or two of fairly large

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trees pushed over right outside the campground that we were

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staying at. We were just primitive camping, but small ow

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campground and creek running through it, and there were trees

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pushing down. And day two, the night of the campground

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of the graveyard thing. But day two, we had found

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a rock in the middle of the pathway that we

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had walked down that I don't think it was there

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before and possibly got a rock thrown at us. And

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the other group that we were out there hiking with

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they had a giant clod of mud come flying through

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the air and it hit a tree right above them

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and busted up, and they thought it was us messing

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with them, and we thought the rock that was thrown

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at us could have possibly been them. So I mean,

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I mean, there was stuff going on. There were several

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several trees broken, there were vocalizations heard, all that kind

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of stuff. I don't remember anybody finding track. I think

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it's possible that one or two people caught glimpses of

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eye shine or maybe even saw one in a ditch

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off the side of the road, like as we were

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driving by. But on nineteen three, Uh, I had to

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leave the next morning, and I got to tell you

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so much. It happened in such a small timeframe. Uh,

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I was wired. I was I was nervous. I knew

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it was real, and I, you know, I had just

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experienced the graveyard thing. I knew it was real, and

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I knew there was something out there. And Larry Porch

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is a good friend of mine. He and Debbie Jones.

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They wanted to take me up on a ridge away

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from camp and let's just him at camp or just

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you know, spend the night on the ground on this

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ridge on the hillside in the woods. And uh, there's

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some there are some funny recordings of this. Uh. We

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did a pretty good job documenting all those. We had

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a lot of audio from it. But there's a recording

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of this. Whenever we get up there, I don't know,

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it's probably midnight, one in the morning something like, they're

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probably closer to midnight. And a tree gets pushed over

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again and Larry starts laughing, and I'm like, you're insane,

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and he's like, yeah, ain't it great? And Debbie port

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she doesn't care. She's fearless, Sisters of the Moon, Debbie

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Porch's Sisters of the Moon. But she goes to sleep,

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and Larry and I are sitting up talking, and I

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gotta be honest with you. I didn't want to go

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to sleep. I was a little concerned. I was a

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little concerned, a little nervous. I'm new to it, and

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I'm definitely not going to sleep if I think there's

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a damned monster right outside, you know. And we're just

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sitting there around the fire, and several times weird stuff

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they could have been, like rocks being pron But at

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the same time, I'm going, couldn't that be just like

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white walnuts or something. Larry's you know, he's talking to me,

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and he's going, yeah, I couldn't be. And like I said,

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the tree get I pushed out. And then right before

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I don't know if it was right before sunrise, but

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about five in the morning, a car goes by on

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the road and we can see its headlights because we're

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at an elevated position, we can see it in It

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goes by about three hundred yards way maybe and right

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as it's going by the curve right by us, as

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it gets close to us, a knock goes off from

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right behind us. I mean probably forty fifty yards a win.

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It's loud. I jumped. It did scare me, and I

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said a few choice words and I told that was

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not and he's like yeah. I was like, they are here,

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and he's like yeah, they've probably been here all night,

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just sitting here with us, watching us, and it just

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it left a distinct impression on me. So in the

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years to come in the next few years following that,

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for other people that I met there, I stayed in

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close contact with. We went to lbo a lot, but

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we also continued to go back to Daniel Boom. But

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when we went back, we would go further in the

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woods and not to a campground just in the middle

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of the woods. And they had a spot that they

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had found back there and I was lucky enough to

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get invited to that. And you asked about some of

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the stuff that was scary, Well in Daniel Boom, this

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was one of the scarier things that happened to me.

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And it's probably not going to sound that thrilling to

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everybody else. I mean, I wish I could tell everybody

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a great, great class a encounter, but that's not what

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this is. We're back there and I'm with very real

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people in the big Foot wark that know their stuff.

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They've been doing this a long time. They've got a

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lot of experience. I don't want to do a whole

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lot of name dropping, but they're very recognizable, known people

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in the big Foot world. And the very first time,

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now I take it back, it was the second time

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we were out there at this place. When we got there,

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there was a tree. And when I say a tree,

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I mean it was about six inch diameter, probably something

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like a poplar, but most of the auxiliary branches had

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been ripped off of it. It was about thirty foot long,

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maybe thirty five foot long, and it was placed horizontally

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above the little stone fire pit area that we had established,

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that they had established and then I'd been there before,

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but the fire pit, the firing there was a tree

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placed horizontally in two other trees, and it was above

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this fire And whenever we got in there, you know

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where we parked that went in there and we saw

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this thing. We're all looking at it like, yeah, that's

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you know, I don't know anybody that would just go

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out in the middle of the woods and strip a

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tree down and place it, you know, suspended in two

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other trees. There were somebody's fir ring just in the

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middle of the woods. So that was the first thing

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that we saw when we got in camps that time,

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and I'm looking at it, I'm like, wow, you know

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that's that's definitely something. I mean, they probably know we're here. Well,

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the last night that we were there on that trip,

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we had done a couple of calls and I don't

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think we got any huge responses. One of my friends

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had told me about using an EMP or an RF

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meter rather RF meter. Chris ryan Hart told me about it,

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and so I had an RF meter. It was my

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first time using it, and whenever we did a we

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did a call. Ose just one minute later, the RF

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meter spiked and I mean alarm went off because the

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the I think it was set on radio waves is

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what went off. But uh, it went off to such

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a high degree. It spiked and I'm sitting there holding it,

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I'm looking at it. I'm like, I don't know, maybe

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you know, maybe something's right here near us. It wasn't

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very much later, we went to bed and I had

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fashioned a part tent tent made out of a tarp,

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and I'm inside that tarp and I got the recorder

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sitting right at the fold where the door is. The

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audio recorder is is right there, about one foot away

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from my head. Because it started raining a little bit

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and I wanted to get super soaked. But something woke

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me up. At about two thirty three AM. Something woke

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me up. I wasn't sure what it was. And as

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I'm laying there trying to go back to sleep, I

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hear something hit the tarp. It's like a pebble, like

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a rock. And I'm laying there and I'm listening. I

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don't hear anything that I hear crunch, crunch, like something

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took a step. Now I'm awake and I'm paying attention.

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And another couple of minutes go by and something else

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hits the tark, kind of like a little pebble. And

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then a couple months later, cruch crunch. Now I've got

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five or six people that are sleeping, and they're not

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very far away from me, but but they're out there

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and I'm in this tart and I'm on the edge,

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you know, right, up against the woods and in my mind,

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I'm I'm listening now, I'm like, this thing is coming close.

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Something's out there, and I'm trying to be logical. I'm like,

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it's that somebody. You know, somebody woke up and they're

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out there and they're using the bathroom or you know,

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shifting around, walking through camp or whatever. But it's the

456
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:33.880
same routine. It keeps happening. It's it's a pebble hits

457
00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:40.519
my tart, and then a couple of steps, and eventually

458
00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:45.640
this thing is getting close. I'm wide awake and I'm

459
00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:50.200
I'm getting nervous. I'm getting scared because in my head,

460
00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:54.400
I'm like, that's a bogger and it's right here on me,

461
00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:59.720
and I'm just expecting something to reach under the dark

462
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:02.559
and grabbed me and snatched me and pulled me out

463
00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:05.880
of that. Now, that didn't happen. But on what did

464
00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:10.119
happen was it got close. There was several minutes where

465
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:13.799
I didn't hear any noise, and I'm waiting for it

466
00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:15.160
to get closer again.

467
00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:19.400
Big so a societyho will be right back after these messages.

468
00:30:35.039 --> 00:30:41.799
And then something it either either a branch hit my

469
00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:45.319
tarp or another rock or it slapped the side of

470
00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:49.680
my tarp right by my feet. And man, let me

471
00:30:49.720 --> 00:30:56.440
tell you, I couldn't think whether or not I should

472
00:30:56.480 --> 00:30:58.960
just like flee. I didn't think at all, but I

473
00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:02.400
kind of yelled and sat up and almost busted out

474
00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:04.519
of the tart. But I didn't because I didn't want

475
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:06.680
to go outside, because I thought there was something outside.

476
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:11.039
I never heard anything leave. Of course, I made a

477
00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:13.240
lot of ruckus and a lot of noise whenever I

478
00:31:13.279 --> 00:31:17.400
did that. I never heard anything leave or runaway. But

479
00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:22.599
after ten fifteen minutes later, you know, I'm still sitting

480
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:26.319
there and I'm scared now. And there was you know,

481
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:30.680
there was nothing there. Nothing happened. It's it's like these

482
00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:33.799
things really really know how to mess with you and

483
00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:38.039
intimidate you. And who's I mean. I never got to

484
00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:39.960
look at it, so I can't even one hundred percent

485
00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:44.240
say that that was a booger. I got the audio

486
00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:46.480
from it. In the audio, you can hear the pebbles

487
00:31:46.519 --> 00:31:48.920
hit in the tent. You can you can hear the

488
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:53.880
steps if you really enhance the volume. But it shook

489
00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:57.160
me up, you know, because I know what happened, and

490
00:31:57.279 --> 00:31:59.480
what happened was something that was coming closer and then

491
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:03.440
it smack the dart and it bothered me and scared me.

492
00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:07.400
I don't know if I would have slept the rest

493
00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:09.519
of that night. That's that's pretty intense.

494
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:14.400
Spent the rest of the nights. Yeah, I didn't. I

495
00:32:14.440 --> 00:32:15.839
didn't sleep the rest of the night.

496
00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:22.000
But I think what is even more crazy is the

497
00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:26.720
r F meter being affected. So can you explain that

498
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:31.359
maybe a little bit of what's the thinking of the

499
00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:35.400
the connection between r F meter and what is maybe

500
00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:37.880
happening in the background, and why would so why would

501
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:39.599
you even have one to begin with? There?

502
00:32:41.519 --> 00:32:46.319
It's this gets into areas and this is a lot

503
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:49.480
of stuff that we that we uh we talked about

504
00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:51.680
on my show, and a lot of the people that

505
00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:55.119
I'm friends with that have shows and everything, we kind

506
00:32:55.160 --> 00:32:58.799
of do deep doys going. I don't want to say

507
00:32:58.839 --> 00:33:01.400
wood and negative when I don't want to send anybody

508
00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:03.480
by the WU thing. And I also don't want people

509
00:33:03.519 --> 00:33:08.559
to think that we are strictly flesh and blood. I

510
00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:11.559
think I would phrase it more long lines of uh,

511
00:33:12.559 --> 00:33:17.400
we're open to anything. We're big proponents of there are

512
00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:21.880
no experts in this field, and you know everything. You

513
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:25.200
have to treat this subject open mind. On the trip,

514
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:29.160
I was just talking about when the RF meter spiked

515
00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:31.519
during the day. We had gone out and gone for

516
00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:36.279
a day hike, and just like always, everybody make sure

517
00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:38.799
you got you know, we're stopping and putting in fresh

518
00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:43.799
batteries in the action cameras, in the recorders, in the

519
00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:47.839
you know, video recorders, the thermals, all the stuff, right.

520
00:33:48.519 --> 00:33:53.519
And that was my first time that exact same event

521
00:33:53.759 --> 00:33:57.319
right there. That was my first time having battery drainage.

522
00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:01.000
And it wasn't just me, it was three or four

523
00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:06.680
of us had battery dreams and weird anomalies like that.

524
00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:11.679
But you get to a point when you do at

525
00:34:11.800 --> 00:34:14.639
least the areas that we've been going and the stuff

526
00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:17.760
that we've experienced. I guess I won't speak for everybody else.

527
00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:20.679
I'll just speak for myself, But it gets to a

528
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:27.679
point where you stop thinking that these things are behaving

529
00:34:27.880 --> 00:34:33.400
like a typical, just regular biological, flesh and blood creature.

530
00:34:33.559 --> 00:34:37.960
It's there's something else going on. So to your question

531
00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:45.239
with theF meter, Chris Ryan hard in bed told by

532
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:48.639
somebody else to look into the RF meter. At least

533
00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:50.880
I think that's how it goes. If not, Chris, don't

534
00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:56.039
kill me, but he suggested that I try. Now, bear

535
00:34:56.079 --> 00:34:58.760
in mind the piece of equipment was new to me.

536
00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:00.920
I had only gotten in a couple weeks. Four went

537
00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:04.320
on this trip. Didn't have much time to really play

538
00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:06.320
with it and everything. But round the middle of the woods.

539
00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:08.679
I mean, I know the basics of the thing, and

540
00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:12.159
I guess the line of thought on it is much

541
00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:17.280
like infrasound. Is it possible that these things are creating

542
00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:27.199
either electromagnetic fields? Are they giving off microwaves? Are they

543
00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:33.039
messing with r F fields? We're not sure, but several

544
00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:38.920
people have cleaned to have had some impressive results with

545
00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:41.960
the RF meters. So we had it out there. Now.

546
00:35:41.960 --> 00:35:43.960
It just so happened that it went off that it

547
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:47.199
spiked that night. A lot of people talk about, hey,

548
00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:49.559
it'll spike whenever they get really close to you and

549
00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:51.880
they're thrown rocks at you and growl, and then it'll

550
00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:54.119
go off. We didn't have any in that. It just

551
00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:57.519
went off on our alarm. And then later on that

552
00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:01.960
night something approached my part. Now, I mean, having said

553
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:04.880
that I've had the RF meter for years, I use

554
00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:10.320
it on occasion. I've not had a whole whole lot

555
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:13.199
of luck with it. But you know, maybe the times

556
00:36:13.239 --> 00:36:15.760
that I did use it, they just they weren't there,

557
00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:23.000
or maybe they're not emitting or giving off whatever is

558
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:27.320
required to set the r F meter off. I don't

559
00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:31.559
really know that we like trying different things. There's some

560
00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:34.360
stuff that I can't really talk about like that that

561
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:37.760
a that a handful of us do because we're still

562
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:41.039
trying it to kind of weigh and measure and it's

563
00:36:41.079 --> 00:36:45.440
not it's it's not mine to share with everybody. But

564
00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:47.800
some of the people that I hang out with are

565
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:54.320
doing really really impressive and unique experiments with different things

566
00:36:54.360 --> 00:36:58.079
that you wouldn't typically think of, and they're going out

567
00:36:58.079 --> 00:37:01.599
and employing it and seeing what results they I mean,

568
00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:04.159
some of the stuff, as you know, from what I've

569
00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:08.480
been told, sounds pretty interesting, but I'm more of a

570
00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:13.960
meat and potatoes kind of researcher. I like the modern

571
00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:18.199
technology aspect of it, but I don't geek out on

572
00:37:18.280 --> 00:37:23.639
all the technological stuff. I do think that they're doing

573
00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:26.960
something I think me personally. I think that they're flesh

574
00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:29.960
and blood. I just think that they have a skill

575
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:33.320
set and they're able to manipulate energy in a way

576
00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:37.880
that we don't understand. And I think I think that's

577
00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:41.960
directly into why you have a really hard time capturing

578
00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:46.079
them on game cameras. Uh, some people be able, or

579
00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:51.480
some people claim to be able to you know, see

580
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:55.079
them with their naked eye, but can't capture them with

581
00:37:55.159 --> 00:37:58.039
a camera. Or some people see them with a camera

582
00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:00.920
on their phone, but they didn't see them them while

583
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:04.960
they were there looking at them in person. You know,

584
00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:08.639
they didn't see them with their naked eye, but they

585
00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:11.400
managed to capture a video of it. And I'm not

586
00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:13.800
saying that all of that stuff out there that's put

587
00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:17.199
out there, especially on Facebook and YouTube, I'm not saying

588
00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:21.880
that all of that stuff is legitimate, but safe say

589
00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:25.079
that probably some of it is. And I just don't

590
00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:30.119
think these things operate. I know they don't operate in

591
00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:34.159
a normal physical way like like I expect them to. Uh,

592
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:37.719
they got weird stuff to them. They can do weird stuff.

593
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:40.280
And I mean some of the stuff I've seen, especially

594
00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:44.280
in Alabama on Creepy Mountain, some of the stuff I've

595
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:46.800
seen down there that'll make you change your line of

596
00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:48.360
thought on some of this stuff.

597
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:54.039
Oh, I agree. I'm starting to learn their stuff. It

598
00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:55.920
doesn't make sense, but I want to call out something

599
00:38:56.000 --> 00:39:01.119
real quick. Just so about five five minutes ago, Well,

600
00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:03.079
first I want to ask you don't have any type

601
00:39:03.079 --> 00:39:07.239
of voice modulator on your phone? Right, nothing weird like that. Okay,

602
00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:10.320
so it was really weird. You probably didn't hear it,

603
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:13.320
but about five minutes ago, when you were talking about

604
00:39:13.679 --> 00:39:18.519
weird stuff happening with Tech, ye, your voice did something

605
00:39:18.639 --> 00:39:21.159
weird I've never heard on the phone before where.

606
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:21.239
It's like.

607
00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:26.920
Kind of like robot voice. It is just it got

608
00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:30.039
really weird. So I mean, stuff like that kind of happens.

609
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:34.280
But yeah, you know Tech gets weird. The RF meter thing.

610
00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:38.840
I might actually try that myself. It's an interesting line

611
00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:43.880
of thought. And who knows what they might have associated

612
00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:45.800
with him, And I don't know if that would even

613
00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:49.159
You know, there's been bigfooters that have had weird health

614
00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:53.679
things happen, and maybe that's because of exposure, you know,

615
00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:57.519
and it really makes you think, Right, I don't.

616
00:39:57.320 --> 00:40:01.599
Know that that is one hundred percent something that we

617
00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:07.199
have talked about and that we pay attention to. Uh,

618
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:10.760
there's only one time that I can think of where

619
00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:16.320
I ever might have been zapped with infrasound. But it's

620
00:40:17.159 --> 00:40:19.400
there is no doubt with the people that I hang

621
00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:21.880
out with on a regular basis, and I mean I

622
00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:25.719
trust them implicitly there. These are good people and their

623
00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:30.039
experienced people and their they're big name people, and some

624
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:33.400
of the stuff that they've told me is you know completely,

625
00:40:33.440 --> 00:40:38.880
it's just it's really impressive, and I believe them, and

626
00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:42.920
I think that along with that infrasound, I mean you

627
00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:47.400
have to consider that if they are using infrasound. Infrasound

628
00:40:47.559 --> 00:40:53.079
is measurable. It just takes quite sophisticated equipment to measure it.

629
00:40:53.719 --> 00:40:56.000
And you know, it's not like we're running around the

630
00:40:56.000 --> 00:40:59.360
woods with million dollar government text stuff to be able

631
00:40:59.360 --> 00:41:02.920
to measure this kind of thing. So the whole infrasound thing,

632
00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:07.480
you know, we charted up as a possibility, but it's

633
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:11.679
a high probability that they are using something like infrasound

634
00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:16.880
and infrasound itself. If you look at the physical disruptions

635
00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:20.719
of what infrasound does, I mean, it'll you know, it'll

636
00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:26.159
joggle your organs and your brain and everything. It's easy

637
00:41:26.320 --> 00:41:30.519
to assume that it could cause health issues if you

638
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:35.159
get zapped enough times, if they're doing infrasound, and I

639
00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:37.599
think the RF meter plays into that because we're not

640
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:42.360
quite sure how to you know, we're looking for some

641
00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:45.239
piece of technology that will give us an edge to

642
00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:50.280
knowing that they're there. And it's hard because these things

643
00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:52.199
are really good at getting close to you without you

644
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:53.119
knowing that they're there.

645
00:41:53.320 --> 00:41:56.119
Spencer, that's so smart. I've never thought of that, And

646
00:41:56.159 --> 00:41:59.199
you're absolutely right. What we need is we need the

647
00:41:59.239 --> 00:42:05.360
one device, the silver bullet, that tells us one hundred percent,

648
00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:08.840
no doubt that yes, they are in that area. That's

649
00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:11.320
what That's what you need, right.

650
00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:17.440
You know, Jeremiah. Two years ago, three years ago, I

651
00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:19.840
would have been like yes, and that was the time

652
00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:23.039
whenever all this stuff was happening with mine, with my

653
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:26.559
stuff in the big foot world. But uh, I got

654
00:42:26.559 --> 00:42:32.000
to admit, man, it's just listening to so many people,

655
00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:36.400
especially people that I that I really do trust and believe,

656
00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:42.119
listening to so many of them nowadays make connections with

657
00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:48.440
stuff like Nefhlahem or Nefhleaham, however you want to say it,

658
00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:51.599
but stuff like that. It's just I've gotten to a

659
00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:56.519
point where I'm honestly thinking, like I don't know. I mean,

660
00:42:56.679 --> 00:43:00.440
maybe there is no maybe we don't have have any

661
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:03.199
leg up and there's no way that we would ever

662
00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:06.480
know anything unless they want us to know it. I

663
00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:09.079
don't know. I mean, I know that gets out there

664
00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:15.039
into the kind of hooky range where you're it sounds

665
00:43:15.079 --> 00:43:19.760
like you're trying to come up with excuses to rationalize

666
00:43:19.800 --> 00:43:23.320
why you're not getting the hardcore evidence. But I mean

667
00:43:24.079 --> 00:43:27.239
we've collected hardcore evidence. I mean, we've collected whole track

668
00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:30.039
with Whenever I say we, I guess I wasn't there

669
00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:33.039
on the I was not there on the big outing

670
00:43:33.079 --> 00:43:36.599
where they collected the major trackway at LBL. But I

671
00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:40.559
found trackways at LBL, and we've we've found stuff in Georgia.

672
00:43:40.679 --> 00:43:42.840
We found stuff all over the place. We just don't

673
00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:46.519
typically publish everything that we find. Just like I do

674
00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:49.800
all kinds of little experiments in my area, and I

675
00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:51.559
end up talking to a lot of people that give

676
00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:55.559
me ideas. It's not like I'm super smart and coming

677
00:43:55.599 --> 00:43:57.320
up with the stuff on myself. A lot of times

678
00:43:57.360 --> 00:44:00.440
I got help from everybody else, and I'm trying different

679
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:04.079
things out on my own and I find really impressive evidence.

680
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:08.480
But you know, that's physical evidence. And you can only

681
00:44:08.519 --> 00:44:10.920
find a track so many times and still be impressed

682
00:44:10.920 --> 00:44:13.480
with it, or you can only find stick structure so

683
00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:17.199
many times before you want to see something else. And

684
00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:23.239
this goes into my major major argument in the Bigfoot world.

685
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:26.960
On my show, and with a lot of the people

686
00:44:26.960 --> 00:44:29.920
that I know, we're all kind of the same. I

687
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:34.480
don't really care about the shows where it's a great

688
00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:41.159
physical description of bigfoot. One of my friends told me

689
00:44:41.199 --> 00:44:43.840
one time, he's like one could be hit by a

690
00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:46.239
semi and be laying in the middle of the road

691
00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:48.639
and one hundred people stop, and you're looking at it,

692
00:44:48.679 --> 00:44:51.159
you're poking it with stick, you're taking pictures of it.

693
00:44:51.719 --> 00:44:54.119
You can see it's hair, you can see exactly what

694
00:44:54.199 --> 00:44:57.760
it looks like. You know, it's eight foot four inches long,

695
00:44:57.800 --> 00:44:59.480
and it's four and a half foot wide, and it's

696
00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:02.679
two foot thick, and it's got longer hair on its

697
00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:06.519
lower arms and on the on the on the on

698
00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:10.320
its head, and it's sparse on its chest. You still

699
00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:17.760
would not know what they are exactly, how they operate. Uh,

700
00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:20.960
do they speak a language? What are they saying? You know?

701
00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:24.679
Are they alien? Are they Nephlahem? You wouldn't know how

702
00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:26.960
they hunt. You wouldn't know how they do the things

703
00:45:26.960 --> 00:45:29.960
that they do. You wouldn't know how they travel, or

704
00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:33.400
how they pick the locations for where they're going to

705
00:45:34.360 --> 00:45:37.320
make nests, if they do make nests, or what the

706
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:42.920
stick structure means. So the average shows out there are

707
00:45:43.159 --> 00:45:47.079
really into giving people entertainment and there's nothing wrong with

708
00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:50.400
that and describing exactly what these things look like.

709
00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:52.920
Big for a society who will be right back after

710
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:53.719
these messages.

711
00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:12.239
I mean, it's a curiosity thing. Everybody wants to hear

712
00:46:12.719 --> 00:46:15.960
the really detailed accounts. Whenever somebody has a has a

713
00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:19.679
Class AI witness account, everybody wants to hear that. I'm

714
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:23.440
not faulting that, but I'm saying that a lot of

715
00:46:23.519 --> 00:46:28.440
us are concentrating more on how are they doing what

716
00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:32.440
they're doing and what are they how do they do

717
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:35.920
what they do? And I'm not suggesting that we have

718
00:46:35.960 --> 00:46:40.000
any super duper answers that other people don't. We have

719
00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:42.159
some stuff, and some of the stuff, you know, we

720
00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:45.599
kind of keep it off the radar while we test

721
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:48.360
it and check it and see what results we get.

722
00:46:48.400 --> 00:46:52.519
But we treat the subject very seriously, but we don't

723
00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:56.719
take ourselves very seriously. If that makes sense sense absolutely.

724
00:46:56.760 --> 00:47:00.480
I love that is It's a very cool comedy. It's

725
00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:03.679
not one you find a lot, but I think it's

726
00:47:03.960 --> 00:47:06.639
it's important. One of the main reasons Spencer, that I

727
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:11.280
had you on the show tonight is I had heard

728
00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:15.159
about a place called Creepy Mountain down in Alabama, and

729
00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:16.840
I reached out to I want it might have been

730
00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:20.800
Roger from Squatch and Holler, and if it's not, apologies Roger,

731
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:23.039
but I think I reached out to him. I was like,

732
00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:26.519
who do who should I talk to about Creepy Mountain?

733
00:47:26.599 --> 00:47:31.440
I think you mentioned your name, So this place sounds

734
00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:35.760
wild and it sounds like you know some some interesting

735
00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:39.280
things about Anything you can share about it would be

736
00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:39.840
really cool.

737
00:47:39.920 --> 00:47:46.320
I think I will say that mister Mark Green, who

738
00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:53.760
the great friend of mine, is Creepy Mountain. So mister

739
00:47:53.840 --> 00:47:56.559
Mark Green, who is a good friend of mine, he

740
00:47:57.039 --> 00:48:02.800
is the guy. What happened was Mark had a personal

741
00:48:03.639 --> 00:48:08.159
class da bigfoot sighting in Alabama. While he was hunting.

742
00:48:10.639 --> 00:48:13.440
He had a friend that he hunted with a lot.

743
00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:21.000
They somehow got in contact with a really famous he's

744
00:48:21.079 --> 00:48:27.280
past now, but Bill White, tal Branco and they started

745
00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:33.480
talking to mister White, and mister White came there and

746
00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:36.880
did a couple of things and said, yeah, you know,

747
00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:40.920
you guys got boogers here, which they had already. They

748
00:48:40.920 --> 00:48:43.039
had already kind of figured that out because after Mark

749
00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:46.880
had his sighting, they started paying attention. Mark was big

750
00:48:46.920 --> 00:48:51.719
into coop hunting and running deer dogs and they would

751
00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:56.280
go up on Creepy Mountain to hunt. So anyway, they

752
00:48:56.320 --> 00:49:00.400
figured out that there were boogers there. They for yous

753
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:07.880
years hardcore research. Creepy Mountain and other areas around Creepy

754
00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:11.239
Mountain became a place that was known to have big

755
00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:20.400
for the activity in there. Whenever I reached out to Mark, Uh,

756
00:49:21.079 --> 00:49:24.079
I just wanted to pick his brain and compare notes

757
00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:29.480
because here I had been going to North Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky,

758
00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:34.880
and North Georgia, and I knew that Alabama was supposedly

759
00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:38.119
a hot zone. A lot of people think that, you know,

760
00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:41.320
the really hot zones are like Florida and Oregon and

761
00:49:41.960 --> 00:49:50.199
Washington State. I promise you Kentucky, Tennessee, Georgia, and Alabama

762
00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:55.320
is absolutely loaded with bookers and not just boogers. But

763
00:49:55.599 --> 00:50:02.760
I believe with other strange possible supernatural things, but it's

764
00:50:03.199 --> 00:50:08.320
Alabama is by far the bootiest state, if that's even work,

765
00:50:09.280 --> 00:50:12.639
that I've ever been to. So we had the chance

766
00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:17.840
to go to Creepy Mountain for the very first time.

767
00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:20.800
It was supposed to be just a handful of us.

768
00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:23.079
Was supposed to be about four or five of us,

769
00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:27.760
ended up being twelve or thirteen because the word got

770
00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:31.519
around and we ended up having like a little wilding there.

771
00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:36.159
And the very first time I was there a Creepy Mountain,

772
00:50:38.800 --> 00:50:43.000
we saw white lights kind of like somebody click in

773
00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:46.880
a very bright flashlight off and on. But there were

774
00:50:48.159 --> 00:50:53.360
I don't know ten twelve of them across this lake

775
00:50:53.480 --> 00:50:55.960
from us, and the lake was not very wide. We

776
00:50:55.960 --> 00:50:58.679
were camping, We were cooking out and camping right there

777
00:50:58.719 --> 00:51:00.639
on the edge of the lake, and there was a

778
00:51:00.719 --> 00:51:04.840
hillside on the other of the lake away from us,

779
00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:08.480
and it was probably I don't know, two hundred yards

780
00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:12.679
something like that, but we could see these white lights

781
00:51:13.039 --> 00:51:18.559
randomly flashing, I mean just for a millisecond, and they

782
00:51:18.559 --> 00:51:23.159
would move one will be down here and regards to

783
00:51:23.280 --> 00:51:28.079
be to the right or whatever. We saw that we

784
00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:34.480
saw shadow I don't want to say shadow figures It

785
00:51:34.519 --> 00:51:39.079
could have very well been boogers. It probably was, but

786
00:51:39.199 --> 00:51:46.760
it was shadows of something that were about eight foot tall,

787
00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:50.199
and they moved in between two trees that were about

788
00:51:50.239 --> 00:51:54.280
ten foot twelve foot apart, and they moved quick as

789
00:51:54.440 --> 00:51:57.519
a blink, I mean, just like fluid, just from one

790
00:51:57.519 --> 00:52:00.000
tree to the next. And they went back and forth

791
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:04.519
a couple times. We heard the typical owls that sound

792
00:52:04.599 --> 00:52:09.800
like they weigh about five hundred pounds. Uh, you know,

793
00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:12.559
we just had We went out and did dolls. Later,

794
00:52:12.760 --> 00:52:16.280
we got a we captured a couple on recording, a

795
00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:21.320
couple of decent apply vocals. They were a good distance

796
00:52:21.360 --> 00:52:24.159
away from us when they applied their faint but they're there.

797
00:52:24.239 --> 00:52:28.000
You can clearly see them on the spectrograph. But Creepy

798
00:52:28.039 --> 00:52:30.480
Mountain is up to his name. It's creepy. I've been

799
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:31.719
there a few times now.

800
00:52:33.480 --> 00:52:37.280
And I'm guessing if like someone tries to search Creepy

801
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:40.519
Mountain on Google Maps, you're not going to find it.

802
00:52:42.679 --> 00:52:46.159
That is it's that's not the name of it. It

803
00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:49.360
is private property. It's gated and you have to have

804
00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:54.199
access to go up in there. Wow. But luckily we're

805
00:52:54.400 --> 00:52:57.199
having a we're having a meet and greet here in October.

806
00:52:57.960 --> 00:53:00.519
That is not too far away from there. The place

807
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:02.880
that we're having the meet and greet at also has

808
00:53:03.000 --> 00:53:08.519
a sordid history of bigfoot activity. And you know it's

809
00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:13.360
it's it's not that one specific place though, it's all

810
00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:18.880
of Alabama. I'm telling you. Mister Cumbo Baker, who I've

811
00:53:19.039 --> 00:53:22.199
been to his property and we had activity there. That's

812
00:53:22.239 --> 00:53:26.000
in the northern part of Alabama. My good buddy Greg

813
00:53:26.079 --> 00:53:28.519
House that's on the show with me all the time.

814
00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:32.360
He's a little bit further south than Cumbo. Then you

815
00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:34.559
hit Mark Green's kind of out in the middle of

816
00:53:34.599 --> 00:53:39.840
the state. And then mister flat Rock Flat Rock Wood Booger,

817
00:53:41.639 --> 00:53:44.760
he's a little bit further south than Mark Green. The

818
00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:47.679
whole state. I just had a guy on the show

819
00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:51.960
not that long ago, Jac Bryant. Heck of a good show, really,

820
00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:55.760
and he's in Alabama. There's a bunch of people in

821
00:53:55.800 --> 00:53:59.519
Alabama that will attest to the amount of activity that

822
00:53:59.559 --> 00:54:02.960
they have out there. And it's just that state for

823
00:54:03.079 --> 00:54:09.320
whatever reason. Uh just I've they're everywhere they seem to be.

824
00:54:09.480 --> 00:54:11.199
They seem to be everywhere in that state.

825
00:54:11.639 --> 00:54:16.039
Oh, I agree. I mean, I've got some really wild reports.

826
00:54:16.079 --> 00:54:19.559
I mean from places you know as well Bankhead and

827
00:54:20.199 --> 00:54:29.079
Talladey Game. Have you ever been down to Holland's hunting camp? Yes, okay,

828
00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:31.800
is that a thing you can talk about?

829
00:54:33.800 --> 00:54:37.480
Well, well, you put me on the spot here, jeremah.

830
00:54:37.519 --> 00:54:39.760
Well, I mean if you don't, if you can't, don't

831
00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:40.880
worry about it. We can move on.

832
00:54:41.079 --> 00:54:46.559
But yes, yes, I've been there once. Uh, And I

833
00:54:46.639 --> 00:54:53.639
wanted to see it specifically for certain reasons that a

834
00:54:53.679 --> 00:54:55.119
lot of my friends have told me about. And I

835
00:54:55.239 --> 00:54:57.840
never seen it. And the last time I was at

836
00:54:57.920 --> 00:55:02.639
Creepy Mountain was Mark Green was kind enough to take

837
00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:06.519
me over there. And there's a road that runs through

838
00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:12.400
the hunting camp and I said, I'm gonna walk down

839
00:55:12.440 --> 00:55:16.159
this road real quick. And there was four of us there,

840
00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:20.440
four of us standing there at the trucks talking at

841
00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:23.400
the Hollands hunter camp and I said, I'm gonna walk

842
00:55:23.400 --> 00:55:26.719
down this road and they said okay. And I go

843
00:55:26.760 --> 00:55:28.760
about one hundred yards. There's a little hill you go

844
00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:30.199
up and then you go on the other side of

845
00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:32.239
the hill, and whenever you do, you drop down here

846
00:55:32.760 --> 00:55:35.400
you're out of line of sight from anybody that could

847
00:55:35.440 --> 00:55:37.760
see you. If they were looking down the road, and

848
00:55:38.239 --> 00:55:41.840
I go down there, and I probably went not very far,

849
00:55:41.960 --> 00:55:44.639
three hundred yards or so, maybe a little bit further,

850
00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:48.840
and I distinctly got the feeling that you hear everybody

851
00:55:48.880 --> 00:55:52.159
talk about that you feel like you're being watched, or

852
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:58.440
that there's something there. And I did a very low

853
00:55:58.840 --> 00:56:06.280
whoop whoop, and nothing happened. I stood there for a minute.

854
00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:08.440
I turned around, started walking back. Guy on my phone

855
00:56:08.440 --> 00:56:14.719
on I recorded with my video with my phone and

856
00:56:14.760 --> 00:56:20.199
as I'm walking back, I heard huh off to the

857
00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:23.400
side of me, probably I don't know, a good far

858
00:56:23.519 --> 00:56:26.559
enough into the woods where I couldn't see it, and

859
00:56:26.800 --> 00:56:30.360
it was just a light kind of grunt hoof, whoof

860
00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:36.079
like that. And I paused, and on the video, I say,

861
00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:38.480
did you hear that? I'm who I was talking to.

862
00:56:38.559 --> 00:56:40.679
I was talking to myself or if anybody saw the

863
00:56:40.760 --> 00:56:46.000
video ever again and I walked another fifteen twenty feet

864
00:56:46.079 --> 00:56:50.079
and got it again and I said, there it is

865
00:56:50.079 --> 00:56:53.280
again in the video, and then I could you know,

866
00:56:53.400 --> 00:56:55.440
I come back. I come back to the trucks. I

867
00:56:55.480 --> 00:56:57.480
did it three times. I come back to the trucks.

868
00:56:57.519 --> 00:57:00.559
I'm like, guys, you are not gonna believe this. All

869
00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:02.840
I did was walk down this road, I mean this

870
00:57:03.039 --> 00:57:05.960
broad daylight in the middle of the day, but I

871
00:57:06.119 --> 00:57:09.719
was back far enough where no one could see, and

872
00:57:10.119 --> 00:57:13.960
uh yeah, and I told them about it. Whenever I

873
00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:17.480
got home, I pulled the video up, which my computer

874
00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:21.880
does not like to talk to my iPhone, but eventually

875
00:57:21.920 --> 00:57:25.199
I got it pulled up, and I edited the video

876
00:57:25.360 --> 00:57:28.559
and was really trying to hone in on the the

877
00:57:28.639 --> 00:57:30.519
audio part of it. And I stripped the audio and

878
00:57:30.559 --> 00:57:33.840
looked that on the spectrograph and you can see it,

879
00:57:34.000 --> 00:57:39.280
but I have to enhance the audio so much it's

880
00:57:39.360 --> 00:57:44.920
kind of distorted. It's not really worth showing. And even

881
00:57:44.920 --> 00:57:48.760
in person, it was not very loud, but it was distinct,

882
00:57:48.960 --> 00:57:53.960
and it was distinguishable, and it's there. It's just you

883
00:57:54.199 --> 00:57:57.440
really have to string to hear it. So for that reason,

884
00:57:57.519 --> 00:58:01.000
I didn't, you know, show show it on my show,

885
00:58:01.079 --> 00:58:04.280
or show it to anybody other than a couple of friends.

886
00:58:04.559 --> 00:58:08.119
But yeah, whenever we left there, I was like, Okay,

887
00:58:07.719 --> 00:58:10.920
this place is hot. They're here. And then of course

888
00:58:10.960 --> 00:58:13.599
I know the other stories about that place, the story

889
00:58:13.639 --> 00:58:19.880
about the campers or the hunter supposedly being found you know,

890
00:58:20.199 --> 00:58:23.039
dead at the bottom of his hunting stamp and there's

891
00:58:23.079 --> 00:58:27.360
been camp sites a band in there, but that's common,

892
00:58:28.039 --> 00:58:36.679
that's common for Alabama. At Greg House's location, they found

893
00:58:36.679 --> 00:58:39.920
a band in camp sites. I mean, that's a common

894
00:58:39.960 --> 00:58:42.320
thing in Alabama. Alabama has loved.

895
00:58:42.119 --> 00:58:44.800
It that area as well. I know Roger had a

896
00:58:44.880 --> 00:58:48.199
really interesting thing happened there where he had he captured

897
00:58:48.239 --> 00:58:50.960
some audio and then a gentleman I had on the

898
00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:53.840
show a few years ago he was referring to the

899
00:58:53.880 --> 00:58:57.519
same story you were referring to. But I guess the

900
00:58:57.599 --> 00:59:00.840
hunter was found and he was I mean, he was

901
00:59:01.320 --> 00:59:03.679
kind of pulled apart a bit, I mean, not like

902
00:59:04.199 --> 00:59:10.519
totally like, yeah, it was pretty uh, pretty interesting.

903
00:59:11.719 --> 00:59:14.440
I believe that I'm not getting the details wrong in

904
00:59:14.440 --> 00:59:18.800
that story. Now, I don't know one thousand percent if

905
00:59:18.800 --> 00:59:23.079
that is completely accurate, but I know that there were

906
00:59:23.239 --> 00:59:26.159
I know that there were people that plane to have

907
00:59:27.239 --> 00:59:32.719
seen someone produce the police file for that, and I believe,

908
00:59:32.800 --> 00:59:37.840
I believe that the guy had his neck broken to

909
00:59:37.880 --> 00:59:40.840
the point where his head was twisted backwards and at

910
00:59:40.920 --> 00:59:44.320
least one of his arms was tore off. I believe

911
00:59:45.239 --> 00:59:48.320
that's the that's the account of that. I can't swear

912
00:59:48.400 --> 00:59:50.559
to the validity of it. But I'm pretty sure that's

913
00:59:50.599 --> 00:59:54.360
the story about it.

914
00:59:54.679 --> 00:59:58.159
Have you run into I mean, I know you've been

915
00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:01.960
in all these different states and done a ton of

916
01:00:01.960 --> 01:00:06.079
research over the years. A weird thing that I find

917
01:00:06.440 --> 01:00:12.519
is that there's these reports of different animals with like

918
01:00:12.559 --> 01:00:16.880
their necks broken that are sometimes do you get that too?

919
01:00:17.239 --> 01:00:21.199
Not nearly, not nearly as much, at least not reports

920
01:00:21.280 --> 01:00:26.400
in my area. Now. I do hear through the rumor

921
01:00:26.440 --> 01:00:29.679
mill and through people that don't want to come out

922
01:00:29.719 --> 01:00:33.239
and talk publicly about it. I do hear a lot

923
01:00:33.239 --> 01:00:40.719
of reports of animals with leggs being snapped and broken cleanly,

924
01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:46.119
especially deering coyote rear legs being broken or torn off.

925
01:00:46.480 --> 01:00:48.079
That's a fairly common.

926
01:00:47.679 --> 01:00:50.960
Thing, big for society. Who will be right back after

927
01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:51.800
these messages.

928
01:01:09.079 --> 01:01:12.199
There was a young couple that I spoke to on

929
01:01:12.239 --> 01:01:15.840
the phone that's not very far from me, and they

930
01:01:15.920 --> 01:01:24.639
had both a mini donkey and a pony go missing.

931
01:01:25.400 --> 01:01:27.519
And I want to say, I'm probably going to get

932
01:01:27.639 --> 01:01:29.880
this backwards, but I want to say that was the

933
01:01:29.920 --> 01:01:36.480
pony that the guts were missing from its neck was

934
01:01:36.519 --> 01:01:40.599
broken where it was turned backwards. And I want to say,

935
01:01:40.639 --> 01:01:43.440
like maybe its back was broken or its rear legs

936
01:01:43.480 --> 01:01:50.920
were torn off, but the donkey. The donkey had a

937
01:01:50.960 --> 01:01:58.280
hole the size of a cannonball punched through its chest

938
01:01:58.920 --> 01:02:05.880
and through it's you know, uh tale hole underneath the tail,

939
01:02:06.039 --> 01:02:09.599
almost like something stuck an arm all the way through

940
01:02:09.679 --> 01:02:13.360
the mini donkey. And I got the Oh, I got

941
01:02:13.400 --> 01:02:17.960
the pictures of it, and it's horrendous. Yeah, it's horrendous.

942
01:02:18.000 --> 01:02:20.599
And I mean, if if they're faking that, there's some

943
01:02:20.679 --> 01:02:24.360
really sick people, but uh, I mean the pictures are real.

944
01:02:26.280 --> 01:02:27.960
I don't know what to think of that. That's not

945
01:02:28.320 --> 01:02:32.840
commonplace in like, uh my day to day experiences in

946
01:02:32.920 --> 01:02:35.519
the bigfoot world, but I do think it does happen.

947
01:02:38.119 --> 01:02:38.480
Hm hmm.

948
01:02:38.599 --> 01:02:41.760
That uh yeah, that's that's a lot to take in

949
01:02:41.880 --> 01:02:45.159
right there. That's that's probably one of the worst worst

950
01:02:45.239 --> 01:02:52.639
things I've heard. Yeah, it's you know, it'll be interesting.

951
01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:55.320
I hope we get to the point, hopefully within the

952
01:02:55.360 --> 01:02:58.159
next thirty years, where we get some really solid answers.

953
01:02:59.719 --> 01:03:04.239
It's something that explains like what these things are, why

954
01:03:04.400 --> 01:03:06.559
they do the things that they do, And it sounds

955
01:03:06.639 --> 01:03:10.599
like that's really what your group is trying to focus on,

956
01:03:10.639 --> 01:03:12.119
which is very cool.

957
01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:18.480
Well, thank you. You know, we're trying to focus more

958
01:03:18.639 --> 01:03:22.440
on the on the answer thing. I mean, we try

959
01:03:22.440 --> 01:03:24.559
to go out there and just experience it, but we're

960
01:03:24.559 --> 01:03:27.519
also trying to take everybody along for the ride. So

961
01:03:27.559 --> 01:03:31.360
we are trying to document, you know, as much as

962
01:03:31.400 --> 01:03:34.599
we can. We are not, you know, we're just a

963
01:03:34.639 --> 01:03:39.480
bunch of Southerners. We're not We're not doing super high tech,

964
01:03:39.639 --> 01:03:45.320
scientific y data research and collecting everything with tweezers and

965
01:03:45.480 --> 01:03:48.960
nitrate gloves and all that kind of stuff. But we're

966
01:03:49.079 --> 01:03:53.000
very open about we do a We do a lot.

967
01:03:53.199 --> 01:03:57.559
Everybody that I'm associated with does a lot of live video.

968
01:03:58.519 --> 01:03:59.960
We do a lot of meat and greets and try

969
01:04:00.199 --> 01:04:02.880
to take people to these places so that they can

970
01:04:03.039 --> 01:04:06.840
experience it. And we've had a pretty lucky record so far.

971
01:04:07.119 --> 01:04:10.320
Our meet and greet at LBL, there was quite a

972
01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:14.119
few people that had stuff happened. They either heard vocals

973
01:04:14.239 --> 01:04:19.519
or had glimpses of stuff like eyeshine. One person I'm

974
01:04:19.559 --> 01:04:21.199
not going to say who, he can talk about it

975
01:04:21.239 --> 01:04:25.679
if he wants to, but I mean I think he

976
01:04:25.719 --> 01:04:30.559
had a full long class A and I'm not sure

977
01:04:30.599 --> 01:04:32.760
if it was a dog man or if it was

978
01:04:32.760 --> 01:04:36.880
a booker. But you know, we've had a good track

979
01:04:36.960 --> 01:04:39.039
record so far with that. We just try to be

980
01:04:39.119 --> 01:04:42.039
open and honest about what we're seeing. And I promise

981
01:04:42.079 --> 01:04:44.639
you this. I mean, I'm as shocked as anybody whenever

982
01:04:44.679 --> 01:04:47.960
stuff does happen and goes off. But then again, we've

983
01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:53.320
got the benefit of we're talking to people that we're lucky,

984
01:04:53.480 --> 01:04:56.480
we're fortunate that they're willing to share with us, and

985
01:04:56.519 --> 01:04:59.000
they're like, hey, if you go to this area, and

986
01:04:59.039 --> 01:05:01.559
then we kind of way and measure what they say

987
01:05:02.119 --> 01:05:04.880
and you know, kind of vett it and then you know,

988
01:05:04.920 --> 01:05:07.440
if we go to the area, a lot of times

989
01:05:07.480 --> 01:05:09.480
there's more than just one or two of us that

990
01:05:09.559 --> 01:05:13.320
are there to witness or experience whatever, and we just

991
01:05:13.360 --> 01:05:16.079
shared it. We share the information. We have people on

992
01:05:16.159 --> 01:05:20.400
our show that I think are credible and the real

993
01:05:20.440 --> 01:05:23.000
deal and everything. And I mean, so far, our show's

994
01:05:23.079 --> 01:05:24.880
doing pretty good. I don't know how you get all

995
01:05:24.920 --> 01:05:29.880
the guests that you do, Jeremiah, but yeah, we've we've

996
01:05:29.920 --> 01:05:34.039
hit a lucky streak with just having experiences and sharing

997
01:05:34.320 --> 01:05:38.239
all the stuff with everybody, and we're just trying to

998
01:05:38.280 --> 01:05:40.119
be real about the subject.

999
01:05:41.360 --> 01:05:45.280
Absolutely. I mean, so I just so I don't get

1000
01:05:45.280 --> 01:05:47.480
a ton of email us about this. Can you explain

1001
01:05:47.599 --> 01:05:51.400
how people, if they want to be involved with the

1002
01:05:51.599 --> 01:05:53.760
meet and greets, how they get the info about that,

1003
01:05:53.960 --> 01:05:56.480
how they get hooked up with being able to go

1004
01:05:56.599 --> 01:05:58.719
and different things like that.

1005
01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:04.360
You know, Well, the way it started, I'll be brief.

1006
01:06:04.440 --> 01:06:06.800
The way it started is, you know, there are all

1007
01:06:06.880 --> 01:06:12.840
these people going to conventions, bigfoot, Bigfoot conventions, seminars. I

1008
01:06:12.920 --> 01:06:16.559
got nothing against anybody going out there doing their thing

1009
01:06:16.639 --> 01:06:20.679
and having speakers and you know, charging emission or anything

1010
01:06:20.760 --> 01:06:23.880
like that. But we're sitting here on a gold mine

1011
01:06:24.280 --> 01:06:30.280
of areas to go to that that have real potential

1012
01:06:30.840 --> 01:06:33.880
for people to have experiences, and some of them are public,

1013
01:06:33.960 --> 01:06:38.599
so it's not like it's not like super secret private things.

1014
01:06:39.199 --> 01:06:42.519
And I'm like, we should, uh, you know, we should

1015
01:06:42.559 --> 01:06:47.199
do stuff where we're inviting more people because everybody are

1016
01:06:47.239 --> 01:06:50.440
going to these everybody is going to these seminars. You know,

1017
01:06:50.559 --> 01:06:54.079
let's just have a free meet and greet in an

1018
01:06:54.119 --> 01:06:57.559
area we happen to know a lot of people that

1019
01:06:57.639 --> 01:06:59.960
are well known in the bigfoot world. I was like,

1020
01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:02.159
if they, you know, will invite them, they can come,

1021
01:07:02.239 --> 01:07:05.559
they can talk kind of like one of the conventions

1022
01:07:05.599 --> 01:07:09.079
or seminars, and we do raffles and stuff, you know,

1023
01:07:09.119 --> 01:07:12.039
and give away things and we cook and have a

1024
01:07:12.039 --> 01:07:16.320
good time, and we're in areas that have a lot

1025
01:07:16.320 --> 01:07:21.559
of activity. So you know, we've had we've had successful

1026
01:07:21.599 --> 01:07:24.000
with that. But the way that they find out about

1027
01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:27.679
it is number one, first and foremost, you would have

1028
01:07:27.719 --> 01:07:31.760
to watch our show wood Walkers on YouTube on Sundays.

1029
01:07:32.599 --> 01:07:34.360
You would have to watch that to keep up with

1030
01:07:34.440 --> 01:07:37.719
all the changing details. But if you want to jump

1031
01:07:37.760 --> 01:07:40.880
on the Facebook page or if you want to email

1032
01:07:40.960 --> 01:07:44.840
us and the email is just wood Walkers with a

1033
01:07:44.960 --> 01:07:48.880
Z on the end at five or five one one

1034
01:07:49.119 --> 01:07:53.119
at gmail dot com, you can email us, or you

1035
01:07:53.119 --> 01:07:54.920
can jump on the Facebook page and we have a

1036
01:07:55.000 --> 01:07:58.320
link on the Facebook page to the upcoming meet and

1037
01:07:58.360 --> 01:08:02.440
greet which is the first weekend in October, fourth, fifth,

1038
01:08:02.440 --> 01:08:08.920
and sixth, and it will be in Alabama in the

1039
01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:10.400
Talladega National Forest.

1040
01:08:11.320 --> 01:08:15.559
Oh that's that's awesome. The LBL one. I believe that

1041
01:08:15.559 --> 01:08:17.000
that was you guys, the LBL one.

1042
01:08:17.079 --> 01:08:17.279
Right.

1043
01:08:18.119 --> 01:08:20.479
Yeah, that one sounded like it was a really cool time.

1044
01:08:20.600 --> 01:08:25.640
You had some some people there that I mean, you

1045
01:08:25.840 --> 01:08:28.960
probably wouldn't have been able to meet those people anywhere else,

1046
01:08:29.000 --> 01:08:31.159
and I know there's at least one guy. I think

1047
01:08:31.239 --> 01:08:33.960
David came all the way out from Oregon for that.

1048
01:08:34.119 --> 01:08:37.279
I want to say, So there's people coming from all over.

1049
01:08:37.279 --> 01:08:41.520
And oh yeah, we have people from California and Texas.

1050
01:08:41.600 --> 01:08:43.960
We had about we had about one hundred and twenty

1051
01:08:43.960 --> 01:08:47.680
five people there. We had again I don't want to

1052
01:08:47.760 --> 01:08:50.399
name drop, but we had we had quite a few

1053
01:08:51.079 --> 01:08:55.920
well known people and they took turns speaking. And then

1054
01:08:55.960 --> 01:08:58.840
of course we all camped and hung out and ate.

1055
01:08:58.960 --> 01:09:03.279
And it wasn't really so much about the Bigfoot thing

1056
01:09:03.560 --> 01:09:08.319
as it was literally everybody just meeting each other and

1057
01:09:08.479 --> 01:09:12.520
getting to know everyone on a personal basis. And also

1058
01:09:12.560 --> 01:09:15.479
I should stress it wasn't about people meeting us. It

1059
01:09:15.560 --> 01:09:19.680
was about us getting to meet everybody that we see

1060
01:09:19.720 --> 01:09:22.520
in the chats and everybody that we've been talking to

1061
01:09:22.720 --> 01:09:27.920
on Facebook. And because the Bigfoot community, I mean, you

1062
01:09:27.960 --> 01:09:30.000
can love it or hate it. Sometimes it is a

1063
01:09:30.039 --> 01:09:34.399
double edged sword. But if you're lucky enough like I am,

1064
01:09:34.479 --> 01:09:37.680
I'm telling you it's one of the best things I've

1065
01:09:37.760 --> 01:09:41.119
done is become a part of the Bigfoot community because

1066
01:09:41.319 --> 01:09:46.439
I've met some of the absolutely the best people that

1067
01:09:47.079 --> 01:09:49.760
would just you know, take the shirt off their back

1068
01:09:49.840 --> 01:09:53.840
to help me and would do it for anybody. I mean,

1069
01:09:54.000 --> 01:09:58.159
just great, great people. And I'm telling you they're good folks.

1070
01:09:58.239 --> 01:10:02.720
We have a good time. It's a really friendly, easy

1071
01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:05.720
going kind of atmosphere. And we're in an area where

1072
01:10:06.399 --> 01:10:09.640
you know, the chances of something happening. You know, nobody

1073
01:10:09.640 --> 01:10:13.119
can guarantee that something's gonna happen. But we're We're not

1074
01:10:13.199 --> 01:10:17.880
going in a conference in a in a hotel room,

1075
01:10:18.359 --> 01:10:21.880
you know. So to me, it's it's a better plan.

1076
01:10:21.960 --> 01:10:23.680
And we like going that. We like going out and

1077
01:10:24.000 --> 01:10:27.079
camping and looking for boogers anyway, So this is already

1078
01:10:27.079 --> 01:10:29.479
what we do. We just make it so that other

1079
01:10:29.479 --> 01:10:30.239
people can come.

1080
01:10:31.279 --> 01:10:33.680
I love it. It's so cool. It's such a cool idea,

1081
01:10:33.760 --> 01:10:37.239
and it's it's way different when you're able to just

1082
01:10:37.520 --> 01:10:40.279
hang out in real life with people that you know,

1083
01:10:40.359 --> 01:10:42.760
you talk to online, but you actually get to meet them.

1084
01:10:42.800 --> 01:10:45.640
It's super cool and it sounds like, you know, it's

1085
01:10:46.079 --> 01:10:50.319
it's a group of people that are good people. Yeah,

1086
01:10:50.560 --> 01:10:52.760
I mean, I've heard I've heard great things about it,

1087
01:10:52.800 --> 01:10:55.359
So hopefully maybe one day I'll be able to make

1088
01:10:55.399 --> 01:10:56.920
it down to one of them. That would be cool.

1089
01:10:57.359 --> 01:11:01.439
We'll see, But yeah, man, Spencer has been such a

1090
01:11:01.439 --> 01:11:06.600
pleasure chatting with you, and definitely, you know, people need

1091
01:11:06.600 --> 01:11:09.439
to make sure that they go over to the Woodwalker's

1092
01:11:09.600 --> 01:11:13.399
channel and those guys are so much fun to watch

1093
01:11:13.479 --> 01:11:16.479
on Sunday. I love it. But did you have any

1094
01:11:16.479 --> 01:11:21.239
other closing thoughts before we head out of the show, Spencer?

1095
01:11:24.800 --> 01:11:28.199
The only other thing I would say is I do

1096
01:11:28.279 --> 01:11:35.399
a lot of documenting experiences and sightings that people have,

1097
01:11:35.600 --> 01:11:40.800
and I don't just pull stuff off of like other

1098
01:11:40.880 --> 01:11:45.119
websites that had it broaken down into state by state

1099
01:11:45.119 --> 01:11:47.960
and all that kind of stuff. And these are encounters

1100
01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:52.640
that I personally believe are real and in my experience

1101
01:11:53.760 --> 01:11:57.319
for this part of the country, for anybody that's listening

1102
01:11:57.359 --> 01:11:59.640
and you're trying to get a feel of why I'm

1103
01:11:59.680 --> 01:12:03.760
talking about Daniel Boone in Alabama and North Georgia and

1104
01:12:04.279 --> 01:12:08.239
LBL and everything. LBL doesn't really fit into the profile.

1105
01:12:08.520 --> 01:12:11.199
It's got its own separate thing that I could talk

1106
01:12:11.239 --> 01:12:17.439
about later. But the Appalachian Mountain Train coming down. I

1107
01:12:17.640 --> 01:12:22.960
live myself. I'm about three miles away from the Blue

1108
01:12:23.039 --> 01:12:25.840
Ridge Mountains they run through here my house. The pictures

1109
01:12:26.279 --> 01:12:29.600
on my profile page are the Blue Ridge Mountains, but

1110
01:12:29.680 --> 01:12:34.199
the Appalachian Mountain Train. Dear Bugger's on it, and I

1111
01:12:34.239 --> 01:12:37.359
do I would stress to everybody as much as we

1112
01:12:37.520 --> 01:12:43.680
kind of keep the subject like hearted, do you understand

1113
01:12:43.720 --> 01:12:47.479
these things are out there, They are real, they do exist,

1114
01:12:47.520 --> 01:12:51.000
and they're moving up and down that mountain train. And

1115
01:12:51.439 --> 01:12:56.880
if you're in Alabama, if you're in North Georgia, you're

1116
01:12:56.920 --> 01:12:59.399
in a good area. If you're in parts of western

1117
01:12:59.439 --> 01:13:03.399
North Carolin eastern Tennessee, you're in a really good area.

1118
01:13:03.960 --> 01:13:08.960
Southwestern Virginia, they're here not as prominent as in other places,

1119
01:13:09.279 --> 01:13:12.960
but they're out there, and I do think people need

1120
01:13:13.000 --> 01:13:18.479
to be aware that they're real, that they're moving up

1121
01:13:18.520 --> 01:13:21.000
and down that mountain train, and if you go out there,

1122
01:13:21.079 --> 01:13:23.000
there's a chance you could have an encounter and just

1123
01:13:23.039 --> 01:13:23.880
be prepared for it.

1124
01:13:25.840 --> 01:13:29.720
Absolutely. Oh yeah, great, great thoughts. Spencer. Thank you so

1125
01:13:29.840 --> 01:13:33.800
much for coming on the show again, and we'll definitely

1126
01:13:34.159 --> 01:13:36.600
be in touch and have to get an update from

1127
01:13:36.640 --> 01:13:37.560
you in the future.

1128
01:13:38.800 --> 01:13:41.720
Yeah, Bert, I appreciate you having me. Jeremiah, thank you

1129
01:13:41.840 --> 01:13:42.279
very much.

1130
01:13:43.199 --> 01:13:46.000
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1131
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1136
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1137
01:14:06.960 --> 01:14:09.840
had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following, or know

1138
01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:14.119
someone who has, please reach out to me at Bigfoot

1139
01:14:14.159 --> 01:14:17.600
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1140
01:14:18.359 --> 01:14:21.319
Here's the list. If you've had any encounters in Oregon,

1141
01:14:21.520 --> 01:14:23.840
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1142
01:14:24.039 --> 01:14:26.920
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1143
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1144
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1145
01:14:35.039 --> 01:14:37.840
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1146
01:14:37.920 --> 01:14:41.439
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1147
01:14:41.479 --> 01:14:44.640
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1148
01:14:44.680 --> 01:14:49.520
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1149
01:14:49.960 --> 01:14:50.760
thanks for listening.

1150
01:15:38.079 --> 01:15:39.520
Her and I can get on here. We can tell

1151
01:15:39.560 --> 01:15:42.840
our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out there listening that's

1152
01:15:42.880 --> 01:15:45.800
too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give

1153
01:15:45.880 --> 01:15:48.600
them the courage to come out and now feels so

1154
01:15:48.760 --> 01:15:51.840
bad about it. Who cares what anybody thinks. I know

1155
01:15:51.920 --> 01:15:53.880
what I saw, I know what's out there.

1156
01:15:54.760 --> 01:15:55.720
That's all I care about.

1157
01:16:11.640 --> 01:16:15.760
Please let people know, Please let them know. If you've

1158
01:16:15.880 --> 01:16:18.720
ever seen one of these things, you need to tell

1159
01:16:19.439 --> 01:16:22.279
because if you don't, then shame on you. You have.

1160
01:16:22.880 --> 01:16:34.439
Shame on you.