Cryptids, Lore and Pukwudgies with Nash Hoover from Chasing Legends (Bigfoot Society Classic)

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next week. Thanks for coming back to

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the Bigfoot Society pod cast. We
have the privilege of Nash Hoover with us

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today. Good to see again.
I met Nash at the Van Meter Visitor

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Festival and Van Meter Iowa, which
is a great cryptid if you don't know

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what I'm talking about. You need
to look it. Look it up.

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I'm gonna go ahead and switch over
to gallery of View. There we go.

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That's much better. But yeah,
Nash has a very cool story.

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He does a lot of cool stuff. So I'm gonna go ahead and have

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you introduce yourself, Nash, if
you don't mind, sure. My name

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is Nash Hoover. I am the
host, executive producer, co creator of

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the Chasing Legends web series. The
series follows myself and my team as we

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travel the globe and research investigate different
cryptic legends. And we've been doing that

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for almost seven years now. Oh
well, finally kind of starting to work

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on our proper first season and kind
of going to be filming that over this

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over this year with the goal of
releasing it early next year. Okay,

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so yeah, that's kind of me. What's going on in a nutshell?

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So it's uh, I would assume
it's definitely you and who else is involved

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with the Chasing Legends crew? Who
is your your crew that usually wouldn't meet

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in the episodes. So the crew
consists of my cousin michaela who has been

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with it since the beginning, okay, my director photography Sammy Vernet or another.

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We have a new camera operator,
Brian Burninghouse. We have Jacksitsa who

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is our audio person. And then
we recently teamed up with Alexander Petakov,

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who will be joining the show full
time with us. So we're really excited

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to have him on board. He's
a really great guy. Worked with us

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on our Buckwoogie episode at Massachusetts we
filmed last month beginning March, okay,

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and yeah, we just all really
connected well with them, and he wanted

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to keep doing it with us,
and that's awesome. That's awesome. He's

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a gentleman from New Hampshire areas are
correct or from New Hampshire. Okay,

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very cool. That's awesome. So
he'll be actually, because you're head,

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you're located in the Midwest, right, uh, south central Minnesota. Okay,

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very cool. So that means he'll
be hanging out in the Midwest for

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a bit, I would imagine,
or yeah, he yeah, we've plans

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to bring him out here eventually.
Okay, very cool, Very cool.

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Yeah, that's kind of skipping a
So I was looking at your Instagram the

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other day and you had mentioned that
you had just been out in Massachusetts.

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I'm actually originally from western mass myself, and there's there's some weird stuff out

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there, definitely. Yeah, so
I am a little curious to hear more

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about, like a, so,
what part of mass were you in out

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there and stuff like that? Uh, specifically eastern UK. We were doing

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an episode on Puckwags, like I
said, So we were in Freetown,

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Fall River State Forest, so that
area obviously Boston, So pretty much just

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in that area specifically is where we
were pucka muck swamp and all of that.

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Okay, very cool And for the
listeners at home that might not be

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familiar with it, can you kind
of give a synopsis of what that cryptid

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is all about? So the the
Puckwoogie is a Wampanog legend in their folklore.

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Uh, it's kind of it's kind
of kind of connects the It kind

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of bridges the gap between both like
ghost and physical cryptids. It h Puckwogi

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pretty much means like the like a
small person that vanishes essentially, Okay,

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So it's kind of a trickster in
the Wampanog folklore. It's been seen as

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being both good and evil more on
like the bad side more in the modern

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day reports. In the Fall River
Freetown State Forest, there is a lot

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of kind of strange deaths and suicides
that they kind of associate really with the

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puckwogi, you know, the pukwage
you know, pretty much kind of lurest

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people to their deaths and into the
forest where they gonna meet their demise.

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There's a an abandoned quarry and a
cliff face it's called the Assanic Ledge in

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the middle of the in the of
this forest, and that specifically has a

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lot of kind of strange uh,
suicides and deaths associated with it, and

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just all around strange things. It's
just that whole area is very very very

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strange and eerie. Okay, man, not to dwell. Well, it's

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it's in it's in your your episode, right, so let's go ahead.

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It reminds me of that Destination Truth. There was Destination Truth when they went

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to the forest in Japan. Oh
yeah, yeah, probably not to that

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extent, I'm guessing, but no, because there's uh. There was like

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one story that he came across where
like the because there's uh on the bottom

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of this cliff, there's there's like
a pool of water and it's deep enough

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when you could swim in it,
and I guess people like jump off of

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it and you know, into the
water to swim. And I guess there

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was some There was a story of
a guy that was up there with a

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group of his friends, and I
guess the guy. I guess the guy

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showed no prior signs of being suicidal. I guess it was an all around

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happy guy and they were up there
and he just jumped off and wow,

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you know, jumped off in a
way where he hit the rocks instead of

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the water. And so yeah,
there's a lot of stuff like that where

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it's not necessarily you know, it's
it's it's just almost for no reason.

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It's yeah, no, that's crazy, but that's not to you know,

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that's that's something else. So you
mentioned that, So this scryptid is almost

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half physical have spiritual. How do
you prepare what's in the Nash Hoover Chasing

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Legends bag when you go after something
like this. I wouldn't know if I'm

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gonna go Ghost Adventures or I'm gonna
go Indiana Jones on this or I'm gonna

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do a little both. You know, like, what are your thoughts?

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You kind of have to go both. I mean, I mean we we

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obviously don't do the typical you know, we don't. We didn't take it

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from like a typical ghost setting standpoint. We didn't take it from a typical

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ghost or a crypto hunting standpoint.
You kind of have to. It's kind

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of one of those things you kind
of have to make it up, do

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you go. You just kind of
take the information that you're given and then

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you just kind of use your senses
and you know, like what we do

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is we kind of look for like
alternate explanations for things. So you know,

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we're out there looking for known animals
that could that meet the descriptions that

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people are giving, or you know, other other instance, you know,

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other other things going on in the
area that could be just attributed as a

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puck wouldgie sighting. So that's kind
of what we go in or go at

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these things with. But yeah,
with the case of the puck widgie,

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it was really difficult for us to
kind of I mean, we did our

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best. We didn't find anything,
but we uh, yeah, it's one

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of those things where you kind of
just have to take take it as you

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take, you know, take it
as you get it. Pretty much and

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go with it. And if anything, you got to see a beautiful part

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of the US. I don't know
if you've ever been out there before,

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but man, like New England is
beautiful. Yeah, it was nice,

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and it was like the weather the
first day we were out there was great

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and then that night there was like
a crazy snowstorm. Oh wow. Okay,

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so like the so the second you
know, so the second day we

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you know, we pretty much you
know, we had snow to deal with.

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But then by that afternoon, like
six seven hours later, the snow

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was gone. Yeah. Yeah,
so like we you know, we did

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two interviews. We did one right
away in the morning and then one later

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on in the afternoon, and they
were almost looked like they were filmed like

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days apart from each other. That's
awesome. So you're actually interviewing people out

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there maybe that I have seen it
or had able to get some interviews.

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It sounds like it's kind of cool. Yeah. We we interviewed two guys,

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John Horrigan and Paul Eno from out
there. Both both folklore and historians

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from that area. So both of
them are very very knowledgeable and pretty much

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everything that's going on out there,
you know, both fuck wouldgie and you

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know just other things, you know, from the Bridgewater Triangle to all the

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all the cult and mobs stuff you
know that goes on out there that these

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guys knew it all. And yeah, I bet, yeah, that's yeah,

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there's so much stuff. Yeah,
there's some stuff out there. Ye

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know, I've looked into yours,
so I've watched your stuff in the past.

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It's on YouTube. Yeah, but
you mentioned it's kind of a new

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format you're going into for releasing it, or you're still sticking with YouTube or

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what's your plans for for releasing this, Uh, this new adventure that we

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we have kicked around Amazon Prime for
a long time, but as of right

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now, we are going to be
primarily YouTube just because it's we love the

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platform. It's always it's the community
is always great. You always get really

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good, really good positive feedback and
honest feedback, and we just want to

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make it as available as we possibly
can for everybody, and that you know,

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everyone has access to YouTube and it's
free, so we're just gonna keep

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doing it that way. Very cool, very cool. Can you give us

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a actually before I want, can
you explain the picture with you and Josh

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Gates. I saw it floating around
somewhere. What's this behind There's gotta be

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a story around that, right.
So he occasionally does like speaking events exactly,

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you know, just kind of he
just you know, he does him.

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And he was in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Okay, five hours from me,

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and you know, I was like, screw it, I says,

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I've gotta you know, I says, even if I can't get them the

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VIP to meet him, I still
want to go in the least, you

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know what, hear him speak,
because he's you know, I've I've I've

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been a huge, huge fan of
Gates for a long time. He's a

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huge inspiration of mine. One of
the main inspirations you know, behind Chasing

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Legends is destination. And so yeah, so my my girlfriend and I drove

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out there and went and saw him
and it was great. I recommend anybody

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that if you've ever given the chance
to hear Josh Gates speak, please go

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because it's yeah, it's it's amazing
because he doesn't hold back. He tells

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you, you know, he he's
such a great storyteller and he allows the

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audience to to have input into and
to weigh in on things, and it's

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it's it's amazing. Anyways, so
we were walking out and we noticed a

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line of people kind of off in
this weird corner of the event or the

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event area. So we just kind
of walked over there, like didn't know

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what was going on. Well,
that's the all these people were lining up

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outside of the door that he was
supposed to come out of to leave,

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and so we're like, okay,
whatever, like they're just gonna tell us

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all the you know, to leave, Like he's you know, obviously Gates

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is a busy guy. He's gonna
want to get out. Well, the

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security guard came out and said that, you know, he will come out

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and and shake your hand and take
a picture and talk with each one of

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you individually, but it has to
be quick. He has to get going.

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So that's what he did. He
came out. He you know, this

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was probably a line of at least
twenty people, and he came out,

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He gave everybody probably two three minutes, shook their hand, took a picture,

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talk with them, and moved on
to the next person. He did,

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and he did it, and he
didn't he didn't rush himself. He

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didn't, you know. He genuinely
enjoyed meeting each person individually. So that's

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how I got to meet him,
And you know I didn't it wasn't you

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know. I have always wanted to
meet Gates and I'm glad I did.

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Uh. Hopefully next time I meet
him, I can have more of a

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conversation with them. Okay, Yeah, that's that's the story of how I

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met them. Cool to have that
behind the scenes about that picture. Yeah,

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I met him at the Des Moines
Area Community College has a lecture series

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and he was there. I think, yeah, I've found out about that

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after the fact, like I had
no, it's really good. That was

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awesome. He uh. He said, everyone that believes in the aliens,

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raise your hand, and the whole
a few hundred people raise your hand.

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He's like, now everyone who believes
in Bigfoot, raise your hand. And

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it was literally me and one other
person so kind of singled out there.

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But he was like, all right, whatever do you can you maybe give

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us any sneak peeks about like what
is the what's the what maybe some plans

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you have in the future, like
you're bringing on and looks like bringing on

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a new guy. Do you have
any cryptids you want to take down in

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the future. Maybe keep that a
little close to your chest, you know,

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But I have all, and I'm
gonna get the exact number here,

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all right, what's I have a
list of thirty five on It's always growing

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every time I kind of find something
that I think is interesting. So far,

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I've checked off one, so I've
got thirty four. I will be

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checking off three more this year.
We will be going to Arizona in July.

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We were going to Vermont in September
and Louisiana in October, and then

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that will wrap. That will wrap
our first season four episodes. I know

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it's not a lot, but it's
a good little little taste of kind of

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what we can do and what we
want to do and how we want to

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make the show look overall. And
then from there we will obviously I've already

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started kind of mapping out of season
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we'll kind of deal with that as
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be more more than four. That's
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twenty minutes away from Vermont. Yeah, some weird stuff in Vermont too,

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man. Yeah, I remember like
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they'd be like, yeah, there's
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coyotes and half dogs, and you
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like ten feet even though you've already
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in the hills of New Hampshire and
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know. It's just like so whatever
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be a good time. So yeah, we're really excited for Yeah, we're

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excited for all of them, just
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trip. That's one that we've been
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for us where we're actually able to
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some of these bigger topics that we've
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episodes that we can drive to.
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and now we won't do anything that
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the international wow and the occasional US
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definitely are trying to make this turn
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can really start exploring some of these
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few on the list that I've kind
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like, I've never heard of that, and I'm like, well, cool,

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let's figures, let's learn about it
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yeah, yeah, you could find
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no one's heard of it, and
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it back. And that's that's pretty
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so, and this shut this down
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you so are you funding these trips
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everything is one hundred percent self funded
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and this Arizona trip that we've booked. You know, we've got the whole

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team kind of chipping in on their
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know, the whole team. The
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they really want to go to these
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more than happy to to you know
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portions of you know, the plane
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stuff. So that's really been great. That's really been helping make this possible.

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Arizona trip. You know, we
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other stuff that we have to kind
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we will be launching a kickstarter to
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we can put a lot more productive, a lot more money towards the

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production value. We personally are not
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know, we're doing this completely independently
for free because we love it. Yes,

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we will be launching a kickstarter to
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or the what's left to pay for
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all travel expenses, everything, and
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going to come up on these trips
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not too big, but big enough. We're really is a proper production.

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tell a great story and have it
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know, we're you know, we're
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we're crypted researchers. But at the
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to put out the best thing that
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smart and a good idea to allow
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have some skin in the game.
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for you totally. Maybe was that
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going to launch it on the thirty
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let's push it back. So we
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also we are seventh anniversary of the
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too you know, you were kind
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the the launch of the Future and
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will be on YouTube for free for
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that will be you know, very
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you you know people that want to
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to watch it, and it's about
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mean, you obviously you can get
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people might like that physical. I'm
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old school person. Myself. I
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ideas for a nice DVD package that
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in it and that you're not going
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cool. Yeah, chasing legends next
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oh you'll get one, I'll get
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So yeah, so May twenty six
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said, we we've always tried to
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and it's involved as possible. We
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We want them to have as much
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don't like something, let us know. We'll, you know, we'll we

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want to try to make a tailward
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kind of one of the reasons why
we stepped away from trying to get this

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show on TV is because we knew
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part that we enjoy so much,
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I just I like, it's like
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these places and beating the people that
like your stuff and have the input,

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and we want to see it,
want to see it grow and expand and

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so yeah, so that's uh,
that's what's going on with us and super

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Cool super Cool believe it or not, Nash, it is actually we are

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close to the end. Would you
mind if someone, let's say, has

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never heard of you before and they
are watching this on YouTube or listening to

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the podcast, let them know what's
the best way to follow your adventures or

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you know, in essence, plug
your stuff. So, so, our

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website is www dot Chasing legendscrew dot
com. Okay, that's gonna have links

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to all of our social accounts Facebook, Instagram as well as our YouTube.

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All of our episodes that we currently
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so that our website is kind of
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perfect. You know. That's going
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of you know, what started the
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little bio of me and uh Kaitlyn
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the show. There's photos, there's
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you know, virtually, see who
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have a few behind the scenes photos. I'm working on getting some more

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up there. We just completely read
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everything up there that we had on
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a few behind the scenes photos cool. Most of them are from our Double

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Spongeable episode and a few are from
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as we kind of shoot more stuff
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sorry, you can find me on
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then that My Instagram has a linked
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everything show wise is our website.
Cool. Well, thank you for taking

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the time to chat with me tonight. It's been awesome. Remember May twenty

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six, Kickstarter. You're not gonna
want to forget about that, guys.

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That's a really good opportunity to get
involved with chasing Levens. So thank you

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again, and hopefully I'll maybe see
at the Vanmeter Visitor Festival again. We'll

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be there. You got it all
right? Well, thanks for listening.

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Yeah, thanks for listening to the
Bigfoot Society podcast all and we will see

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you next week here. A Bigfoot
Society art goal is to provide a platform

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for those that have encountered Bigfoot to
share their encounter in a safe and respected

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environment, but we need to hear
your story. If you've experienced something that

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you just can't explain, please send
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dot com. Then we can start
the conversation. I know a lot of

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you have not shared your encounter at
all. It's been twenty years and it's

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time that you get this off your
chest and then you can get some well

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deserved for rest, because I know
you haven't been sleeping. I understand what

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you're going through, and I appreciate
every one of you listening