Sept. 30, 2023
Dogman Unleashed and Being Silenced by the MIB with the Squatch Father, Al Santariga, Pt. 2
Al Santariga “The Squatchfather” is a New York State based Bigfoot and Dogman researcher among many other things.
Enjoy Part 2 of my interview with THE SQUATCH FATHER which focuses on Dogman and MIB.
This episode gets more wild than you could ever...
Al Santariga “The Squatchfather” is a New York State based Bigfoot and Dogman researcher among many other things.
Enjoy Part 2 of my interview with THE SQUATCH FATHER which focuses on Dogman and MIB.
This episode gets more wild than you could ever expect so...GET READY!!!
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Enjoy Part 2 of my interview with THE SQUATCH FATHER which focuses on Dogman and MIB.
This episode gets more wild than you could ever expect so...GET READY!!!
Resources:
Facebook Bronxville Paranormal Society BPS - https://www.facebook.com/groups/355803847924300
New York State Dogman Project - https://www.facebook.com/groups/nysdp
WATCH THE IOWA EPISODE IN THE “SASQUATCH: A SEARCH FOR SABE” DOCUMENTARY SERIES BY TATE HIERONYMUS // FIND OUT ALL ABOUT MY FIRST BIGFOOT ENCOUNTERS! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo8O4rvywzE
Call the Bigfoot Society BIGFOOT ENCOUNTER hotline! Have you seen a Sasquatch and would like to get what happened “off your chest” but don’t have time for an interview? NOW YOU CAN DO IT ON YOUR TIME AND SHARE IT WITH THE WORLD! Share it here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety
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I've taken far too much of your time
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so far, so let's get on
with the show. Al Santa Riga,
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the Squatch Father, I would love
to talk to you a little bit about
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dog Man. So you're not only
just into Bigfoot, but you're also looking
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into dog man in the state of
New York. Can you tell tell my
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listeners, like, what is going
on with dog men in your state?
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Well, I mean it's not just
my state, it's every state. If
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you have sasquatch, you have dog
men. Okay, there's no doubt in
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my mind about that. At one
of my locations. I go to,
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the Sasquatch is on the east side
of the Rent in the Mountain Range,
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and the dog men. No,
the Sasquatch are on the west side of
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the Mountain Range. I'm sorry.
And the dogmen are on the east side
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of the Mountain Range. And they're
everywhere. They're not just here in New
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York. There there, Wherever you
have sasquatch, wherever you have these large
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national forests, you'll find these creatures. I mean we've we've had we've actually
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taken reports of them being at Central
Park in New York City being spotted,
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you know what I mean. So
they're not just in the woods, They're
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they're in the cities too. Yeah
know. Like I said this, what
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happened was originally when we were getting
invited to symposiums, we were going as
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the Bronxville Paranormal Society because you know, we did everything. We were getting
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a lot of grief from like the
euthologists, though, what does the ghost
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hunters know about UFOs or what the
cryptid people would say? What does the
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you know, you ghost hunters know
about cryptids? So we just took the
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BPS team and we split it up
into different groups. When we go to
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these symposiums. Now we could hang
our batter that says, if we're at
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a UFO conference, like every year
up here in May, they have the
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Pine Bush UFO fare. It's Pine
Bush is supposed to be the UFO capital
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of New York State. We go
there, We get invited every year we
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go there. We were actually on
the board at one point. We go
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there every year, and we put
up all of our UFO binners, you
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know what I mean. And now
nobody gets us any grief because you don't
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have to deal with the move On
people and stuff like that, you know,
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because if you're not part of mouf
On, they they don't. They
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look at you cock eyed, you
know what I mean. So I am
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part of mouf On, so I
get invited anyway, you know. But
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even if I go as the New
York State UFO projects, I don't,
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I don't catch any grief. And
that's how all the all the groups actually
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got started, you know what I
mean. We said, you know,
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we don't. We didn't come here
to fight with anybody. Let's let's make
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everybody happy and we'll have the same
team to give different labels different parts of
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the you know, one of one
unit, and so we when we did
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the Dogman stuff, we came up
with the Dogman, the New York City
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Dogman Project. We were actually before
we started the New York State Dogman Project,
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we were like Miami Partner, Brian. We were National North American dog
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Man Project, New York State Chapter
Director. That's what our title was,
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okay, And then there was an
issue with somebody on the NADP and and
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us I'm not actually my partner,
and so we decided to just walk away
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from that start our own group.
We ended up with the New York State
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dog Man Project. But eventually that
guy left, and you know, Jody
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Cook, who's the founder of it, asked us to come back and be
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directed. As a matter of fact, I know they want me to be
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the regional director, the Eastern regional
director, but I really don't have time
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to be the region I barely have
enough time to be the state director,
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never mind the whole region, you
know. But so we started our own
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thing. And we knew we we
we had experienced dog manas a couple of
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different locations, and we knew where
they were, and you know, went
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if we knew if we went to
certain locations, like long story shot,
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we found a den and in the
den right we I was being pulled into
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the woods. To know why being
pulled into the woods? Long story shot,
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We find the den and we zoom
into the den with one of my
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camera guy has like this camera that
you can see the alien bases on the
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moon, and he zooms into the
den and there's a giant canine head like
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a wolfhead, facing south, and
right next to that is another one that
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looks like a hyena snarling at us. Okay, and we were actually at
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that location months before where we were
bluff charged, and at a point we
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were bluff charged, we thought we
were being bluff charged by a big foot
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because the big foot came out and
did three whoops, and then it did
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tree knocks, and I did tree
knocks, and they did rock knocks,
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and then eventually it threw a rock
at us, the size of a ball
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of ball that came down over the
trees and landed in between all three of
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us, and I hindsight being twenty
twenty, it was trying to get us
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out of that location because we were
in a danger zone. You know,
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we didn't know that the dog Man's
Den was behind us. In the swamp.
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We were up on a high ridge
and it was trying to get us
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out of there, but I was
very stubborn at night. I wouldn't leave,
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and eventually the big Foot backed away
and the dog man bluff charged us.
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Came charging up the ridge after us, and we pulled out our machetes
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and we stood our grounds and we
heard it come charging up like a quadruped,
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charging up the ridge. But it
never came over. It was like
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a little stone three foot stone wall. It never came over the stone wall.
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We thought it the whole time.
We thought it was the big Foot.
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Months later, we put all our
evidence out on our pages, on
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our YouTube page and on our Facebook
page, and actually somebody from I think
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it was from California called me up
and said, you're knowing that one photograph
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you took of that stone wall.
And I was like yeah, he says,
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there's a dogman in that photograph.
I was like, send me the
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picture. He sends me the picture. I thought it was photoshops. Right,
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I look at it. I take
my SD card out of my camera,
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I put it in my computer and
right there. I mean, I
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don't know how we didn't see it, but there it is, and I
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believe it's the one that looked like
the hyena that was standing behind the wall
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sniffing us. And you could see
its nose. It's got a square mug
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and it snout and it's got pointed
ears, and you could see its eyes
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shine from the flesh of the camera. And then that same guy sent me
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an up. He called me up
again and he said, hey, al,
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you know you got a big foot
in that picture of you guys at
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the meadow which we had moved out
of that location at one point and moved
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to another location. We were doing
three different one two, three different locations
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that night, and he said,
you know, you got a big foot
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underneath a tree at the meadow.
And I was like, what are you
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talking about? And he said it
to me again. I dought it with
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photoshops and again I put the SD
card in there, and there, you
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know, in the shadows of the
of the photo, underneath this one little
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red oak maple tree, the only
tree that has leaves on it right,
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is this giant sasquatch head. And
you can see it's like leaning on its
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belly and it's on its forearms and
it's watching us. Now, I don't
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know if it was watching us because
what we were doing, there was a
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lot of stuff going on in the
meadow and it was way too much to
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get into. Now, if it
was watching us because of all the activity
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we had going on, or if
it was just hanging around to make sure
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those two dogmen and come at it
at then and shred us, you know.
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But I think that I think the
reason why that one dog man chose
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not to come over over that wall
was because all three of us did have
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eighteen inch machetes, you know what
I mean. And I believe the dog
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man and the big Foot as well, respect of the long blade more than
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the gun, you know, because
they've been on this planet for millennium,
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they've probably dealt with men for thousands
of years and seeing what swords and spears
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and long knives can do to each
other to them as well, you know.
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So yeah, I think I think
it was those long blades that stopped.
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And I think it was because we
were set up in like a triangle
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formation with me at the front.
And I got to be ly honest with
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you, when I heard this thing
coming up the ridge, and that you
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could hear the bipedal because it was
again. It was in the fall and
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there was a lot of leaflet and
you could hear all four legs hitting the
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ground jump running coming up. I
thought not that, I thought it was
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the big foot charge on us.
I thought it was either a black bear
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or a mountain lion. And I
said, oh my god, this mountain
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lion is going to come over this
wall, and I'm going to be the
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first person that sees. I'm gonna
have to sacrifice my left arm and stab
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it with my machette, you know
what I mean. And but nothing came
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over the wall. But the crazy
thing is we never heard it leave either.
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You know, as loud as it
was coming up the ridge, it
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never made a sound leaving. So
I don't know where it went. But
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that's a long it's another experience that
goes on. That's a long experience.
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Had so much stuff involved in that
one. If I tell you everything,
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get what happened on that night,
it would blow your mind. Oh absolutely.
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And it's crazy because you kind of
there's a there's a place I was
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wanting to go, and you kind
of already went there a little bit,
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so I'm excited you already did.
But let me preface this question a little
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bit. So there's a podcast I
love called Cryptids of the Corn and they
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have an episode about dog Man,
but it's specifically down in Kentucky and it's
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not all about Dogman, but it
talks about how the potentiality that dog Man
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could be a misidentified North American hyena. And you kind of brought up that
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what you saw looked like a hyaena
in that sighting. Do you have any
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thoughts like, do you think there
could be a correlation there or if you
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think dog Man is another thing entirely, what do you think this creature is?
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I personally, I believe there are
a couple of different misidentifications. I
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believe there is a creature that is
wolf like that can go buy people,
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that is flesh and blood. I
believe it's I don't know where it's from
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or how it got here, but
I believe there is a flesh and blood
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creature all of the world around psychics
that I have met over the years at
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all the symposiums. Whenever I get
to sit down at a table one of
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these psychics, I have to pick
their brains and one of the first questions
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I always ask them is what's your
opinion on a dog man, and they
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always tell me interdimensional being. That's
what they tell me, interdimensional being.
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Now I believe there aren't dog men
that are interdimensional beings. But then there
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are people who say that dog man
come in their house and this and that
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the other thing. And I think
the creatures that they've seen that are that
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are actually coming into these people's homes
and scaring them and threatening them, and
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are demonic creatures that are using their
fear of the dog man to get that
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adrenaline, you know what I mean. That's that rush from them, the
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feed off of that sphere, you
know what I mean. I don't believe
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that even if the dog man is
interdimensional and it can go from our dimension
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to another realm, I don't think
it necessarily it's using that ability to pop
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in and out of people's homes.
You know. I've heard too many stories
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with hey, we'd just ripped the
door off of hinges and shred everybody in
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the house. They're not popping in
and out, you know. Now,
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I've I've known, I've interview I've
talked to people who have killed these creatures,
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you know what I mean, so
they can be killed. And I've
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talked to people who have shot them
multiple times, followed them, follow them,
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follow the blood trail to certain point, and it just disappears. Those
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little ones I think that are interdimensional, they go back to their dimension healed,
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and the ones that they actually that
are killed here I believe our flesh
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and blood creatures. So I think
there's three variants of them as far as
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like flesh and blood, interdimensional and
demonic creatures that may resemble dog men,
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but you know, demonic creature can
resemble whatever your biggest fear is, you
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know what I mean. So fascinating, that's my Yeah, that's my that's
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my thoughts on it. Yeah,
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these words from our sponsors. Not
the first I have heard the interdimensional way
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of looking at that creature from.
It was Jody Cook. We talked years
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ago and he had some some very
interesting thoughts about these could be alien creature,
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you're just coming from different worlds and
trained by the government, et cetera.
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And it was just really eye opening
for sure. But you know,
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has there been a time when let's
say you've been out involved with looking for
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Dogman around Dogman Expedition and things have
just got very intense, and you're like,
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you know, I would much rather
not be in the situation right now.
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Well, there there was a time
when we were we were actually we
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went out one night to do there's
a there's an abandoned asylum here in New
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York State called Letchworth Village. Okay, it's it's a whole village that's basically
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abandoned, but it was. It
was it was an asylum and it was
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a hospital, and we were investigating
hospital. One time we ran into a
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security guard and a security guard said, you have to go to the cemetery.
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The stem terry is really weird and
that they've seen like these light orbs,
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light like tubs of light come out
of the ground, you know.
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And they said, you guys would
love you gotta go there and investigate it.
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So we said, okay, we'll
go investigate it. So one fall,
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my partner and I, Brian,
we went. Really guys on the
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team. I never had everybody on
a team go out to any investigation completely,
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or someone's always working or going to
a wedding or something like that.
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So Brian and I go out and
now this particular cemetery not like any cemetery
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you've ever seen in your life,
and there's no signs for it. I
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thought we were going to a city
cemetery where you could drive right up to
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the plot, you know what I
mean. I've investigated a ton of cemeteries
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in New York and you usually can
drive through them. But we pull into
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this location. It's in it's just
a like a dirt parking lot. We
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pull in there and we go in
the cemetery. There's a giant, giant
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stone, you know, monument to
all the people who were buried there with
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their names on it. Because there
are no headstones there. There are just
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crosses with numbers on it, okay, And and it's built on a hill,
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so all the crosses go up the
hill. And it's in the middle
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of the woods. I mean,
we had to walk like a quarter mile
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into the woods to find this place, you know. And we were actually
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had something attached to me there,
because Brian was like, what's wrong with
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you? And I'm like, you
know, min denial. I'm saying like,
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there's nothing wrong with me, but
I felt that there was something attached
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to me, you know, And
he's telling me, oh, you don't
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sound like you, you don't look
like you you're not acting, and I'm
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like, oh, what the hell
am I acting? Like? What am
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I talking like? You know?
But I had known, yeah, and
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I wasn't denial, and he knew
I wasn't denial. But so we were
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doing a day night and we went
there and we did all our stuff,
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all our testing during the day,
and there was a must have been like
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a dog kennel in the neighborhood because
there were dogs were just going off and
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off and off, and I did
a tree knock. I don't know why
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I did a tree knock, but
I did a tree knock. And when
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I did a tree knock, the
dogs all went silent, so so so
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we may notice. That's it's very
interesting, you know, we started noticing
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again. It's a location where we've
been there for hours, walking around,
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and it felt like we had blinders
on, like we should be seeing more
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of but we're not seeing anything.
But after that tree knock, it's like
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the blinders were removed and now we're
seeing exes and our arches and bends and
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brakes and twist and we're thinking,
wow, this is really crazy, you
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know, this this could be a
hot location for bigfoot being but we're in
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the middle of a city, you
know. But these woods. The city's
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built around these woods. So as
we're walking out of the woods, I'm
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being pulled to my left. I
don't know why I'm being pulled to my
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left, and so I'm so I'll
go. I said, Brian, comes
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this way. We're walking, we're
walking, We're walking, and we're walking
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across this rocky terrain. I mean, you couldn't You couldn't run across this
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terrain if you tried, if you
went down, you were breaking your knee,
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your head, whatever. You had
to be very careful. And we
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came across this tree and the only
way I could describe it is it looked
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like this giant oak tree. What
other trees, long trees, sixty foot
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trees jammed up into it, okay, And it went around in a circle
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like a carousel. And to me, it kind of looked like an umbrella
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without any skin on it, you
know, that was opened. And we're
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looking at this thing. And the
trees that are jammed into the main tree
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are so big. I mean,
there have to be a and a half
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in diameter. There's sixty if people
on't. But the crazy thing about it
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is they're not touching the ground.
They're like nine feet in the air,
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and we're thinking, what had the
strength to do this and still have these
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up nine feet in the air.
They're not even hitting the ground, you
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know. And then Brian started getting
pulled deeper into the woods and I stopped
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them and I said, Brian,
stopped. I feel like we're being pulled
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into a trap. We're in a
really really bad place. We can't barely
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walk on all these rocks, you
know. Never mind trying to run out
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of here. Let's back out of
here and come back later. So we
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backed out and come back later.
A lot of crazy stuff happened that night
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while we were there. But as
we were leaving, we had to park
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the jeep across the street. There
was one street light on this whole block,
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and it was by the entrance of
a hiking trail. And I had
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a jeep it's like one I didn't
know if I could park on the road.
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There was no cars parked on the
street. There was no cars parked
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in the dirt parking lot, so
I didn't want to park there and let
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everybody know that there were people in
the cemetery. So I parked underneath this
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street light. I got my jeep
up off the road onto the dirt,
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and I parked underneath the street light, right next to this hiking trail,
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and we went in. Okay,
and we're having all these experience and again
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the dogs and I'm walking with my
camera recording and the dogs are all going
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off and then you hear this one
dog or you know, at the time,
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we thought it was a dog.
Okay, it did something I don't
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know if you want to call it
a bark or a growl or whatever it
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was, but it was so much
louder and powerful than any of the other
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dogs. We just turned around and
we looked at each other, like we
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know what that is. And all
the dogs stopped barking at that point,
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and it got really quiet, and
it came right from the direction where my
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jeep was parked. Okay, so
now we're leaving us. We're leaving the
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cemetery, got all the evidence.
We're leaving. We've got our head lamps
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one because we're walking out it's in
the dark. And we get to the
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edge of the road. It's a
tune lane road, and my jeep ist
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parked underneath the head of the lamp, the street lamp the street light.
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And as we're starting to walk in
from the street, I see eyes shine
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behind my jeep. But it's not
like something small. It's like it looks
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like it's six feet tull. What's
ever behind my jeep? So I stopped
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Brian, I go, wait,
stop, I said, what's that?
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And he looks and he sees the
eyes shine and it's AMBERI shine, and
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it's looking at us, and we're
looking at it, and you know,
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and we're debating, trying to be
you know, logical, is it a
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deer. If it is, it's
a big buck, you know. I
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was like, man, that thing
is like this s eyes a marm or
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duke, you know, look at
the side of that thing, you know.
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And I'm like, now, we
don't have any weapons on us,
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because we were what we were going
to a regular cemetery in the city.
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It's all all I got on on
me our two cans of pepper spray,
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you know, And so I gave
one to Brian, one to and I
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had one on my big And as
we're walking closer to it, I said,
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well, if if it's a deer, the closer we get to it,
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it'll jump off and run away.
But the closer we're getting to.
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Now we're like in the middle of
the road, and I'm getting really really
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bad vibes, like this is not
good. And I turned to Brian.
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I said, Brian, this is
not no dear. You know, I
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didn't use that language. A little
profanity. Is said. This isn't any
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deer, because whatever this thing is, it's not run. I said,
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whatever this thing is, it's hunting
that trail. Now, if it's hunting
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that trail and it's six feet tall, because the eyes shine is about as
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high as I am. Six feet
tall, either it's standing straight up or
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it's something sitting on its haunches.
And if it's something sitting on its haunches,
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how tall is it when it stands
up? And I told Brian,
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I said, either this thing and
neither one of us wanted to use the
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D word, right, I said, either this thing is hunting that trail
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because dear use it to go back
and forth across the road, and it's
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a good hunting, a good ambush
spot, or it's hunting that trail because
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it thinks some idiot it's parked here
jogging this trail at night and we're easy
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prey. You know what? I
mean, and Brian's like, I don't
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know. Alice will just keep going
and maybe it'll it'll run off. And
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as we get closer and closer,
my spidy sense is tinging, tingling,
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and I'm like, dude, I
don't like this. I feel vulnerable.
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This is no good, this,
that and the other thing. And then
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Brian says, I have to piss, and I was like, well,
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you're not pissing here, Get in
the jeep and I'll pull on the other
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side of the road and you can
piss in the empty lot across the street.
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Because I don't know what this thing
is and it's not leaving, you
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know what I mean. It hasn't
moved. He's like, no, I
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have to go right now. If
I don't go right now, I'm going
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to pee in your car. Said, oh, you're not. I'm gonna
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pee in my car, so you
better go. So he steps out behind
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the car a couple of feet.
I'm throwing my all our equipment into the
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back of my jeep, never taking
my eyes off of this thing, because
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I am getting such bad vibes that
we are in harm's way and we both
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know, we just both know we're
dealing with a dog man here and where,
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and he's peeing and he's doing this
piss that goes on for like three
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hours, and I'm screaming and cursing
at him, getting the f and car
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Brian or I'll leave you. And
he's like, you're not gonna leave me?
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What would you tell my wife and
kids? Ha? I'm like,
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dude, getting the car because I
swear to God, I feel like it's
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this thing explodes out of his woods. Not only is he a dead man
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because he's got his back to it, but I'm a dead man. Only
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thing I got between me and him
is my cheap door. So eventually this
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creature goes dark. Now I don't
know if it closed its eyes or if
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it's shut off the light and its
eyes. I don't know what it did,
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but every fiber of my being was
telling me that it had dropped down
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to its belly, and it was
belly crawling towards Brian. I jumped into
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jeep and I backed the jeep up
as close as I can to him without
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hitting him or the tree, and
I swing my passenger inside door op but
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to put it in between him in
this creature, because that's the only thing
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that is going to stop this creature
from grabbing him and ripping him to shreds
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at that door. And at some
point during his twenty minute piss, he
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got the goose bumps from head to
tell that he was in arm's way,
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and he said, Okay, now
it's time to go, and he jumped
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into that truck and I did a
dukes of hazard three six the added air,
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and I got couldn't get out of
the air fast enough, kicking up
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dirt. And I don't know how
close we came to being killed that night,
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but I'm going to say we came
pretty damn close, considering we didn't
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have any weapons and defend ourselves.
That's intense, man. That could have
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ended a whole different way. Wow. Yeah, Yeah. The scariest thing
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is that you said, it's it's
in the middle of a like a city
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town where it's unexpected. It's like
a little bit like a little little neighborhood
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built right across the street. But
like I said, you can't see the
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neighborhood from the cemetery because here's still
a quarter mile away in the woods,
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you know, and there's nothing but
woods around you, you know. And
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yeah, and I think it was
that dog man that made that structure,
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because I had never seen anything like
quite like that in my life. It
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was just the most craziest looking structure
you've ever seen. It really wasn't.
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I believe, and this is just
one man's opinion. I believe that dog
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Man had seen that jeep and said, oh, easy price. Someone is
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hiking this trail and it's at night, and he said, I'm just going
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to sit here for whoever this idiot
is come to come running down the trail,
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that I'm going to grab and drag
him away and no one will ever
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find them. But we didn't come
down the trail. We didn't go up
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the trail. We came from across
the street, and its eyeshine gave it
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away. You know, you couldn't
see it in the book, even though
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it was the fall. It blended
into the shrubs and everything. You couldn't
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see it. And I'm telling you, when when anything went dark and I
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could no longer see its eyes,
every alarm in my brain was going off.
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Time to leave, time to leave. I couldn't get Brian to get
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in the car. I just wanted
to put that road in my car between
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him and that creature while he went
urinated, you know what I mean.
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But he wouldn't. He said,
he couldn't make it across the street.
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How long was it going to take
us to get across the street? Five
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seconds? Ten seconds? He couldn't
make any said, and I was like,
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dude, you're gonna get us ball, you know right? Oh man,
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that'd have been terrible. It's something
you had mentioned in passing earlier.
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Is you mentioned that someone has actually
taken down a dog man before? Is
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that anything you have any more info
about or or do you know where what
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happened to the bodies or anything of
that. From what I understand that it's
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a couple of different people that I
know that I've spoken through that did it.
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One group or a bunch of you
know people you know, like outdoor n
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people, you know what I mean, people who hunt for a living and
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stuff like that. And you know, they took it down and then they
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buried They put the bodies in ditches
and burnt them so there was no evidence
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of them because the government is watching
these creatures. I had a how do
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I put this? I had men
in black experience over my dog man investigations.
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I wasn't necessarily guys in black,
but they looked like special ops guys,
402
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you know what I mean. And
they knew everything about me and Brian
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and our groups and every and we
held two meetings, one downstate, one
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upstate, and everything about everything and
threatened me with stuff that was so vile
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that I was like, listen,
keep me out of woods. For two
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years. You know, I didn't
go back in the woods. But they
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do monitor these creatures, you know, And so yeah, I mean,
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it's just the second group were Native
Americans that I know. There's an Iroquois
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museum not far from my house,
and whenever I get the opportunity to go
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there, I'd like to go there
and do a tour. And you know,
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they know me. Now. I've
picked enough brains, and I go
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to there and I talked to the
elders and I picked their brains about stuff.
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And whenever there's whenever the tribes in
this area have pow wows, they
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have two or three of them in
this area, I go to all three
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again. I try to sit down
with the elders and the shamans and pick
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their brains. I've been to enough
of them now that they know who I
417
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am, you know what I mean, So they tell me stuff. And
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one of the ones that were that
told me about them killing the goverment were
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the Native Americans. They said they
killed them and they buried them in the
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sacred cemeteries. You know, they're
sacred sites, you know, so they
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just buried them. What, Yeah, that's incredible. Yeah yeah, So
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I mean, you know, like
I said, the ones that are flesh
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and blood can be killed, and
I and honestly personally, I believe the
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ones that are even interdimensional when they're
here in our dimension, they're flesh and
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00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:00.400
blood and they can be killed as
well, you know what I mean.
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00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:07.440
So the only thing you really can't
kill are the ones that are demons that
427
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are looked at disguising themselves as a
dougument. But the other two I believe
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could both be killed. And like
I said, now both both groups.
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The guys I know, the hunters
that I know that killed them at their
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hunting lodge up in the Adirondis,
you know what I mean, they've buried
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them on their property, and the
Native Americans on the on the on their
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reservation. You know, both groups, the ones that they've burned and buried
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the bones because no one wants to
deal with any read concussions from the government,
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you know. So I don't know
what the government has to do with
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these creatures or what they're you know, what's going on, why they're monitoring
436
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them, or what they're monitoring.
But you know, no one, no
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00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:04.839
one wants to deal with the God
Brent when it comes to this stuff,
438
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:10.360
because believe me, they don't play
games. They they don't play games.
439
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:16.480
When I when I was had my
experience, I felt like I was going
440
00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:21.559
to get whacked that day. I
said, oh, these guys are gonna
441
00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:23.400
whack me. Just leave me here
lunched over my car, you know,
442
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:27.679
never mind all the vile stuff they
were telling me that they were going to
443
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:30.320
do to me if I didn't they
had our woods. Did they show up
444
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at their house at your house?
Now? But they followed They followed me
445
00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:39.679
for about two weeks. Every day
they would just they would like they would
446
00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:43.880
fall out of the sky in the
middle of the park where it would be
447
00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:46.920
behind me. Every day and it
didn't matter what time I left to go
448
00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:51.119
to work or what time I left
work to come home. I don't know
449
00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:53.880
if they were tracking me. There
was a certain location that every time I
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00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:58.800
passed it, two minutes later they
were behind me. I don't know where
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they came from. It just boomed. They were behind me, you know.
452
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And so I don't know if they
were tracking my car or what,
453
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:10.000
because I was trying to bury my
time from going to work. From one
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day, I would go four o'clock, five o'clock, since o'clock, and
455
00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:19.000
it didn't matter no matter what time
I went past that one exit, boom,
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00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:21.920
two minutes later they were and they
would follow me for a couple of
457
00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:24.000
exits, and then they would get
off, just to remind me that they
458
00:35:24.039 --> 00:35:29.239
were still watching me, you know. So wow, And the same thing
459
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:30.679
coming home. It didn't matter if
I worked eight hours, ten hours,
460
00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:35.320
and twelve hours whenever I came home. So as I passed that exit there,
461
00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:37.960
they were just fall out of the
sky. Never even seen him come
462
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on and get on the park.
We all all of a sudden they were
463
00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:45.800
right behind me, just like they
fall out of the sky. But you're
464
00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:50.960
saying it eventually came to a head
where there was a confrontation and they were
465
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actually the woods. The very first
time they pulled me over, they pulled
466
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me over. There's an abandoned ski
lodge up here off the parkway that I
467
00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:07.960
drive through, and I drives on
and it has this giant parking lot,
468
00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:10.440
you know, you would imagine a
big parking lot for ski lodge, right,
469
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:16.840
And they had a lot of like
construction material and dirt and rocks and
470
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stuff. And one day I was
driving home. It's just cruising up the
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parkway, chilling, you know,
listening to Leonard Skinner, just minding my
472
00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:29.880
own business. When this car pulls
up behind me, falls out of the
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sky and it's up here. The
state police have blue and gold cars and
474
00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:38.480
the park police have white and green
cars. While I see this park police
475
00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:45.320
car pull up behind me, put
its lights on and tell me over the
476
00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:51.119
loudspeaker to pull into the abandoned you
know, get the ski resort. So
477
00:36:51.639 --> 00:36:53.800
I pull in. I know,
I'm not speeding, I'm just cruising,
478
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:58.280
you know what I mean. And
I pull in and he tell me go
479
00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:01.840
behind that big pile of rocks,
you know, like gravel, and it's
480
00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:05.960
like go behind it, which didn't
ring. Didn't feel right to me to
481
00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:07.639
go behind her like, and so
no one can see me back there,
482
00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:12.840
you know, And then I get
back there, and again on the loudspeaker,
483
00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:15.159
they say, shut the karo,
take the keys out and throw it
484
00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:19.639
on the floor of the passenger side, the seat built on, and put
485
00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:22.880
your hands on the steering wheel,
roll down the witness. So I do
486
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:24.079
what they're saying because I don't want
to get shot, you know what I
487
00:37:24.119 --> 00:37:28.639
mean. I don't know what these
guys are these cars. I'm assuming they're
488
00:37:28.679 --> 00:37:30.800
regular cops, you know. And
then they get out of the car,
489
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:35.360
and both of these guys look like
Arnold Schwarzenegger, you know what I mean.
490
00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:40.280
And and the long guy pulls out
a little black book and he says,
491
00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:45.760
reading off of all this stuff about
me, and he's screaming at me.
492
00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:46.840
You know, you think you know
what, you think, you know
493
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:50.719
what you're dealing with. You have
no clue what you're dealing with. Stay
494
00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:55.840
out of Longwoods. And I was
actually researching a certain location at that time
495
00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:59.760
because I had just seen a dog
man at that location, you know,
496
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:04.280
Yes, I was researching that area. And then the other guy started screaming,
497
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:07.199
and they're bolt screaming at me from
both sides of the car, but
498
00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:12.480
neither one of them came close enough
to put their hands on the car.
499
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:15.280
Said if they put their hands on
the roof, maybe I get their fingerprints,
500
00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:17.679
you know. And then I said, well, let me see some
501
00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:21.960
ID because you guys are in playing
clothes. I goes, you want to
502
00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:22.679
see ID. I go, yeah, I want to see the ID.
503
00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:27.920
He showed me his gun. He
is my ID. I said, okay,
504
00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:30.639
that's good. That's good enough for
me, you know. And then
505
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:35.840
the other guy actually pulled out a
badge, but it was like the badge
506
00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:39.760
didn't match the car. It was
like they pulled the badge off of a
507
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:43.440
wall or something, you know what
I mean, like maybe a retire re
508
00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:46.559
cop with something. I don't know. It's just nothing felt right, you
509
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:51.880
know, didn't It didn't didn't feel
right the whole thing. And they're screaming
510
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:53.159
at me, and it tell me
this, and they tell me that they
511
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out of the woods. And if
you don't, you know, not only
512
00:38:55.320 --> 00:39:00.639
are you gonna lose your pension,
but you're gonna the other really really bad
513
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:04.039
things are going to happen to you. We have the ability to do whatever
514
00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:09.159
we need to do to you via
technology and everything else, you know,
515
00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:13.559
And I'm like, you know,
time out, Calm down, what do
516
00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:15.199
you guys want. It's tell me
what you want. You got it,
517
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:19.880
you know. And the exprement standard
woods. We don't want you going into
518
00:39:19.880 --> 00:39:22.920
the woods. We don't want you
going into state parks, county parks,
519
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:25.599
national parks. We don't even want
you to go into the soccer field,
520
00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:29.119
you know. And they didn't want
me in any kind of park, you
521
00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:34.559
know. And I was like okay. And we were doing a UFO meeting
522
00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:40.840
upstate that Thursday. We did a
paranormal one down in Westchester and a UFO
523
00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:45.639
one up in Dutchess County where I
live. And we were doing a UFO
524
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:47.960
meeting, and you know, we've
had a couple of experiences where people came
525
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in that we thought were FEDS,
you know, just the energy they put
526
00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:55.719
off. We both we both look
at each other as I said, that's
527
00:39:55.719 --> 00:40:00.679
a FED. You know, it's
just monitoring the group. And then one
528
00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:02.519
of the guy says to me,
oh, by the way, what are
529
00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:07.320
you guys discussing Thursday night? You
know, a red hook because that's where
530
00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:10.039
it was. And I go,
uh, UFOs an. The other guy
531
00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:14.159
goes he had stick to usoes,
nobody give a shit about them, stay
532
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out of my woods. I was
like, until somebody does give a shit,
533
00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:21.639
But until somebody does give a shit
about it right then comes and knocks
534
00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:23.679
on my door. But I was
like, okay, no problem. Then
535
00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:27.360
just before they left, they turned
to Maya. Oh, by the way,
536
00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:31.000
tell your fat f and friend my
partner Brian, that we know where
537
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:35.199
he lives. They gave me his
building number, he lived in lived in
538
00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:38.559
a big building down in the Bronx. Gave me his building number, his
539
00:40:38.639 --> 00:40:43.719
apartment number, everything you know.
And he said, tell him it would
540
00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:46.360
be terrible because you know, Matt, New York City, you can't own
541
00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:50.400
a gun. It's impossible to own
a gun, right. They said,
542
00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:54.320
it would be terrible if you got
arrested as a domestic terrorists because you never
543
00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:58.599
know what kind of guns we could
pull out of his apartment. And I
544
00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:04.039
was like, whoa, look,
I'll tell my partner what you told me.
545
00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:06.760
But he's his own man. He's
gonna do what he wants. He's
546
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:10.000
a big boy. But I'll pass
the message along to him. And I
547
00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:15.880
called him up immediately and I was
like, dude, you you this is
548
00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:17.639
just what happened. You have to
stay out of the woods. You have
549
00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:22.239
to you have to go into woods
anymore. I said, if they arrest
550
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:24.840
you as a domestic terrorist, you
can't even call a warrior. You have
551
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:30.480
no rights as a domestic terrorist.
God only knows what they'll say they pulled
552
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:31.719
out of your apartment. You know, they may come out of there with
553
00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:36.639
a bazuka, who knows, you
know. And so he went out and
554
00:41:36.679 --> 00:41:39.159
he bought a two way camera for
his car because he wants to film them.
555
00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:43.800
You know, they pulled him over, you know, but he didn't
556
00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:47.880
he you know, we didn't do
any more investigations in the woods. We
557
00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:53.079
started doing more CE fives and stuff
like that. We stayed away from the
558
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woods for a couple of years because
no one wanted to deal with that nonsense.
559
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:02.280
You know. Wow, but but
you tell you, I'll tell you
560
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:08.719
what they told me. Well but
the but yeah, no, I'm glad
561
00:42:08.760 --> 00:42:12.800
you made it too there. And
it sounds like you are going back into
562
00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:16.440
the woods again. So that is
that is good and hopefully nothing else.
563
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I started going back in. I
started going back in two years ago,
564
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I think again when COVID twenty twenty. I think in twenty twenty one.
565
00:42:28.760 --> 00:42:30.920
I started going back in again.
A couple of years had passed, you
566
00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:34.559
know what I mean, And I
was like, Okay, I think we're
567
00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:37.000
good. I think you know what
I honestly, I think what happened was
568
00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:44.880
I happened to see one of these
creatures at the location. So I went,
569
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which was one of my locations that
I used for squashing. Okay,
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So I happened to see one of
these creatures there, so I started investigating
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it. I think they were there
investigating at the same time, and they
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see, you know, and I
was messing up their investigation, and it
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just wanted me added there because they
were in the middle of something. And
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then it needs some greenhorn like me, you know, coming in and messing
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up their gig, you know.
So I think that's what that was all
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about or heard. Yeah, I
haven't seen I've been back to that location
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a couple of times now and again. Sound all kinds of big foot footprints
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there, and a knee print,
a fifth print, all kinds of stuff.
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No more. I haven't seen any
more dog man evidence there, but
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I haven't seen anybody else there either, you know what I mean. So
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it's just been made. Oh sure. Al Santa Riga Squash five. This
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has been an incredible chat I mean, you've got you've been through some amazing
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things. Thank you so much for
hanging out tonight, for chatting and sharing
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some things with my audience. But
what are ways that people can keep up
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to date with all this incredible things
you've got going on? Yeah, you
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could. You could just check out
the Bronze Full Power Normal Society on Facebook.
587
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We have a group page and we
have a members page the group.
588
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I do most of my posting in
the group page, Brian does it on
589
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the other one, but we also
update the US the New York c UFO
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project, the Dogman Project, and
the Bigfoot Project. I'm actually going out
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October Friday, a thirteenth. I'm
going back out to do an investigation.
592
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There's going to be one percent of
the moon out that night, so it
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should be an interesting night. And
then I'm going back out on the twenty
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eighth. There's going to be a
full moon that night, so that should
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be interesting and I want to compare
how one a full moon and a no
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moon, you know, kind of
energy brings and what kind of evidence you
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know we can collect, So it
should be interesting. Absolutely. Yeah,
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I'm sure we'll be hearing from you
in the future. Al Thank you so
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much for coming on tonight, No
problem, you're a Bigfoot Society article is
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to provide a platform for those that
have encountered Bigfoot to share their encounter in
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a safe and respected environment. But
we need to hear your story. If
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you've experienced something that you just can't
explain, please send me an email at
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Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.
Then we can start the conversation. And
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I know a lot of you have
not shared your encounter at all. It's
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been twenty years and it's time that
you get this off your chest and then
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you can get some well deserved for
rest, because I know you haven't been
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sleeping. I understand what you're going
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I've taken far too much of your time
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so far, so let's get on
with the show. Al Santa Riga,
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the Squatch Father, I would love
to talk to you a little bit about
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dog Man. So you're not only
just into Bigfoot, but you're also looking
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into dog man in the state of
New York. Can you tell tell my
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listeners, like, what is going
on with dog men in your state?
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Well, I mean it's not just
my state, it's every state. If
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you have sasquatch, you have dog
men. Okay, there's no doubt in
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my mind about that. At one
of my locations. I go to,
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the Sasquatch is on the east side
of the Rent in the Mountain Range,
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and the dog men. No,
the Sasquatch are on the west side of
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the Mountain Range. I'm sorry.
And the dogmen are on the east side
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of the Mountain Range. And they're
everywhere. They're not just here in New
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York. There there, Wherever you
have sasquatch, wherever you have these large
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national forests, you'll find these creatures. I mean we've we've had we've actually
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taken reports of them being at Central
Park in New York City being spotted,
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you know what I mean. So
they're not just in the woods, They're
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they're in the cities too. Yeah
know. Like I said this, what
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happened was originally when we were getting
invited to symposiums, we were going as
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the Bronxville Paranormal Society because you know, we did everything. We were getting
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a lot of grief from like the
euthologists, though, what does the ghost
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hunters know about UFOs or what the
cryptid people would say? What does the
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you know, you ghost hunters know
about cryptids? So we just took the
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BPS team and we split it up
into different groups. When we go to
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these symposiums. Now we could hang
our batter that says, if we're at
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a UFO conference, like every year
up here in May, they have the
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Pine Bush UFO fare. It's Pine
Bush is supposed to be the UFO capital
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of New York State. We go
there, We get invited every year we
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go there. We were actually on
the board at one point. We go
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there every year, and we put
up all of our UFO binners, you
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know what I mean. And now
nobody gets us any grief because you don't
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have to deal with the move On
people and stuff like that, you know,
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because if you're not part of mouf
On, they they don't. They
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look at you cock eyed, you
know what I mean. So I am
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part of mouf On, so I
get invited anyway, you know. But
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even if I go as the New
York State UFO projects, I don't,
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I don't catch any grief. And
that's how all the all the groups actually
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got started, you know what I
mean. We said, you know,
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we don't. We didn't come here
to fight with anybody. Let's let's make
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everybody happy and we'll have the same
team to give different labels different parts of
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the you know, one of one
unit, and so we when we did
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the Dogman stuff, we came up
with the Dogman, the New York City
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Dogman Project. We were actually before
we started the New York State Dogman Project,
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we were like Miami Partner, Brian. We were National North American dog
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Man Project, New York State Chapter
Director. That's what our title was,
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okay, And then there was an
issue with somebody on the NADP and and
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us I'm not actually my partner,
and so we decided to just walk away
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from that start our own group.
We ended up with the New York State
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dog Man Project. But eventually that
guy left, and you know, Jody
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Cook, who's the founder of it, asked us to come back and be
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directed. As a matter of fact, I know they want me to be
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the regional director, the Eastern regional
director, but I really don't have time
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to be the region I barely have
enough time to be the state director,
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never mind the whole region, you
know. But so we started our own
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thing. And we knew we we
we had experienced dog manas a couple of
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different locations, and we knew where
they were, and you know, went
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if we knew if we went to
certain locations, like long story shot,
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we found a den and in the
den right we I was being pulled into
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the woods. To know why being
pulled into the woods? Long story shot,
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We find the den and we zoom
into the den with one of my
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camera guy has like this camera that
you can see the alien bases on the
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moon, and he zooms into the
den and there's a giant canine head like
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a wolfhead, facing south, and
right next to that is another one that
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looks like a hyena snarling at us. Okay, and we were actually at
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that location months before where we were
bluff charged, and at a point we
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were bluff charged, we thought we
were being bluff charged by a big foot
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because the big foot came out and
did three whoops, and then it did
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tree knocks, and I did tree
knocks, and they did rock knocks,
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and then eventually it threw a rock
at us, the size of a ball
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of ball that came down over the
trees and landed in between all three of
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us, and I hindsight being twenty
twenty, it was trying to get us
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out of that location because we were
in a danger zone. You know,
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we didn't know that the dog Man's
Den was behind us. In the swamp.
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We were up on a high ridge
and it was trying to get us
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out of there, but I was
very stubborn at night. I wouldn't leave,
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and eventually the big Foot backed away
and the dog man bluff charged us.
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Came charging up the ridge after us, and we pulled out our machetes
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and we stood our grounds and we
heard it come charging up like a quadruped,
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charging up the ridge. But it
never came over. It was like
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a little stone three foot stone wall. It never came over the stone wall.
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We thought it the whole time.
We thought it was the big Foot.
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Months later, we put all our
evidence out on our pages, on
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our YouTube page and on our Facebook
page, and actually somebody from I think
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it was from California called me up
and said, you're knowing that one photograph
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you took of that stone wall.
And I was like yeah, he says,
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there's a dogman in that photograph.
I was like, send me the
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picture. He sends me the picture. I thought it was photoshops. Right,
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I look at it. I take
my SD card out of my camera,
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I put it in my computer and
right there. I mean, I
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don't know how we didn't see it, but there it is, and I
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believe it's the one that looked like
the hyena that was standing behind the wall
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sniffing us. And you could see
its nose. It's got a square mug
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and it snout and it's got pointed
ears, and you could see its eyes
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shine from the flesh of the camera. And then that same guy sent me
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an up. He called me up
again and he said, hey, al,
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you know you got a big foot
in that picture of you guys at
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the meadow which we had moved out
of that location at one point and moved
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to another location. We were doing
three different one two, three different locations
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that night, and he said,
you know, you got a big foot
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underneath a tree at the meadow.
And I was like, what are you
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talking about? And he said it
to me again. I dought it with
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photoshops and again I put the SD
card in there, and there, you
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know, in the shadows of the
of the photo, underneath this one little
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red oak maple tree, the only
tree that has leaves on it right,
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is this giant sasquatch head. And
you can see it's like leaning on its
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belly and it's on its forearms and
it's watching us. Now, I don't
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know if it was watching us because
what we were doing, there was a
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lot of stuff going on in the
meadow and it was way too much to
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get into. Now, if it
was watching us because of all the activity
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we had going on, or if
it was just hanging around to make sure
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those two dogmen and come at it
at then and shred us, you know.
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But I think that I think the
reason why that one dog man chose
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not to come over over that wall
was because all three of us did have
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eighteen inch machetes, you know what
I mean. And I believe the dog
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man and the big Foot as well, respect of the long blade more than
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the gun, you know, because
they've been on this planet for millennium,
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they've probably dealt with men for thousands
of years and seeing what swords and spears
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and long knives can do to each
other to them as well, you know.
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So yeah, I think I think
it was those long blades that stopped.
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And I think it was because we
were set up in like a triangle
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formation with me at the front.
And I got to be ly honest with
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you, when I heard this thing
coming up the ridge, and that you
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could hear the bipedal because it was
again. It was in the fall and
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there was a lot of leaflet and
you could hear all four legs hitting the
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ground jump running coming up. I
thought not that, I thought it was
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the big foot charge on us.
I thought it was either a black bear
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or a mountain lion. And I
said, oh my god, this mountain
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lion is going to come over this
wall, and I'm going to be the
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first person that sees. I'm gonna
have to sacrifice my left arm and stab
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it with my machette, you know
what I mean. And but nothing came
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over the wall. But the crazy
thing is we never heard it leave either.
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You know, as loud as it
was coming up the ridge, it
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never made a sound leaving. So
I don't know where it went. But
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that's a long it's another experience that
goes on. That's a long experience.
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Had so much stuff involved in that
one. If I tell you everything,
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get what happened on that night,
it would blow your mind. Oh absolutely.
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And it's crazy because you kind of
there's a there's a place I was
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wanting to go, and you kind
of already went there a little bit,
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so I'm excited you already did.
But let me preface this question a little
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bit. So there's a podcast I
love called Cryptids of the Corn and they
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have an episode about dog Man,
but it's specifically down in Kentucky and it's
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not all about Dogman, but it
talks about how the potentiality that dog Man
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could be a misidentified North American hyena. And you kind of brought up that
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what you saw looked like a hyaena
in that sighting. Do you have any
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thoughts like, do you think there
could be a correlation there or if you
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think dog Man is another thing entirely, what do you think this creature is?
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I personally, I believe there are
a couple of different misidentifications. I
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believe there is a creature that is
wolf like that can go buy people,
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that is flesh and blood. I
believe it's I don't know where it's from
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or how it got here, but
I believe there is a flesh and blood
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creature all of the world around psychics
that I have met over the years at
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all the symposiums. Whenever I get
to sit down at a table one of
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these psychics, I have to pick
their brains and one of the first questions
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I always ask them is what's your
opinion on a dog man, and they
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always tell me interdimensional being. That's
what they tell me, interdimensional being.
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Now I believe there aren't dog men
that are interdimensional beings. But then there
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are people who say that dog man
come in their house and this and that
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the other thing. And I think
the creatures that they've seen that are that
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are actually coming into these people's homes
and scaring them and threatening them, and
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are demonic creatures that are using their
fear of the dog man to get that
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adrenaline, you know what I mean. That's that rush from them, the
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feed off of that sphere, you
know what I mean. I don't believe
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that even if the dog man is
interdimensional and it can go from our dimension
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to another realm, I don't think
it necessarily it's using that ability to pop
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in and out of people's homes.
You know. I've heard too many stories
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with hey, we'd just ripped the
door off of hinges and shred everybody in
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the house. They're not popping in
and out, you know. Now,
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I've I've known, I've interview I've
talked to people who have killed these creatures,
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you know what I mean, so
they can be killed. And I've
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talked to people who have shot them
multiple times, followed them, follow them,
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follow the blood trail to certain point, and it just disappears. Those
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little ones I think that are interdimensional, they go back to their dimension healed,
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and the ones that they actually that
are killed here I believe our flesh
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and blood creatures. So I think
there's three variants of them as far as
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like flesh and blood, interdimensional and
demonic creatures that may resemble dog men,
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but you know, demonic creature can
resemble whatever your biggest fear is, you
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know what I mean. So fascinating, that's my Yeah, that's my that's
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my thoughts on it. Yeah,
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these words from our sponsors. Not
the first I have heard the interdimensional way
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of looking at that creature from.
It was Jody Cook. We talked years
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ago and he had some some very
interesting thoughts about these could be alien creature,
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you're just coming from different worlds and
trained by the government, et cetera.
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And it was just really eye opening
for sure. But you know,
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has there been a time when let's
say you've been out involved with looking for
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Dogman around Dogman Expedition and things have
just got very intense, and you're like,
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you know, I would much rather
not be in the situation right now.
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Well, there there was a time
when we were we were actually we
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went out one night to do there's
a there's an abandoned asylum here in New
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York State called Letchworth Village. Okay, it's it's a whole village that's basically
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abandoned, but it was. It
was it was an asylum and it was
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a hospital, and we were investigating
hospital. One time we ran into a
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security guard and a security guard said, you have to go to the cemetery.
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The stem terry is really weird and
that they've seen like these light orbs,
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light like tubs of light come out
of the ground, you know.
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And they said, you guys would
love you gotta go there and investigate it.
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So we said, okay, we'll
go investigate it. So one fall,
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my partner and I, Brian,
we went. Really guys on the
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team. I never had everybody on
a team go out to any investigation completely,
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or someone's always working or going to
a wedding or something like that.
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So Brian and I go out and
now this particular cemetery not like any cemetery
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you've ever seen in your life,
and there's no signs for it. I
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thought we were going to a city
cemetery where you could drive right up to
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the plot, you know what I
mean. I've investigated a ton of cemeteries
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in New York and you usually can
drive through them. But we pull into
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this location. It's in it's just
a like a dirt parking lot. We
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pull in there and we go in
the cemetery. There's a giant, giant
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stone, you know, monument to
all the people who were buried there with
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their names on it. Because there
are no headstones there. There are just
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crosses with numbers on it, okay, And and it's built on a hill,
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so all the crosses go up the
hill. And it's in the middle
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of the woods. I mean,
we had to walk like a quarter mile
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into the woods to find this place, you know. And we were actually
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had something attached to me there,
because Brian was like, what's wrong with
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you? And I'm like, you
know, min denial. I'm saying like,
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there's nothing wrong with me, but
I felt that there was something attached
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to me, you know, And
he's telling me, oh, you don't
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sound like you, you don't look
like you you're not acting, and I'm
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like, oh, what the hell
am I acting? Like? What am
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I talking like? You know?
But I had known, yeah, and
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I wasn't denial, and he knew
I wasn't denial. But so we were
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doing a day night and we went
there and we did all our stuff,
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all our testing during the day,
and there was a must have been like
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a dog kennel in the neighborhood because
there were dogs were just going off and
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off and off, and I did
a tree knock. I don't know why
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I did a tree knock, but
I did a tree knock. And when
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I did a tree knock, the
dogs all went silent, so so so
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we may notice. That's it's very
interesting, you know, we started noticing
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again. It's a location where we've
been there for hours, walking around,
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and it felt like we had blinders
on, like we should be seeing more
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of but we're not seeing anything.
But after that tree knock, it's like
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the blinders were removed and now we're
seeing exes and our arches and bends and
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brakes and twist and we're thinking,
wow, this is really crazy, you
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know, this this could be a
hot location for bigfoot being but we're in
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the middle of a city, you
know. But these woods. The city's
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built around these woods. So as
we're walking out of the woods, I'm
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being pulled to my left. I
don't know why I'm being pulled to my
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left, and so I'm so I'll
go. I said, Brian, comes
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this way. We're walking, we're
walking, We're walking, and we're walking
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across this rocky terrain. I mean, you couldn't You couldn't run across this
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terrain if you tried, if you
went down, you were breaking your knee,
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your head, whatever. You had
to be very careful. And we
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came across this tree and the only
way I could describe it is it looked
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like this giant oak tree. What
other trees, long trees, sixty foot
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trees jammed up into it, okay, And it went around in a circle
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like a carousel. And to me, it kind of looked like an umbrella
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without any skin on it, you
know, that was opened. And we're
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looking at this thing. And the
trees that are jammed into the main tree
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are so big. I mean,
there have to be a and a half
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in diameter. There's sixty if people
on't. But the crazy thing about it
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is they're not touching the ground.
They're like nine feet in the air,
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and we're thinking, what had the
strength to do this and still have these
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up nine feet in the air.
They're not even hitting the ground, you
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know. And then Brian started getting
pulled deeper into the woods and I stopped
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them and I said, Brian,
stopped. I feel like we're being pulled
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into a trap. We're in a
really really bad place. We can't barely
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walk on all these rocks, you
know. Never mind trying to run out
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of here. Let's back out of
here and come back later. So we
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backed out and come back later.
A lot of crazy stuff happened that night
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while we were there. But as
we were leaving, we had to park
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the jeep across the street. There
was one street light on this whole block,
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and it was by the entrance of
a hiking trail. And I had
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a jeep it's like one I didn't
know if I could park on the road.
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There was no cars parked on the
street. There was no cars parked
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in the dirt parking lot, so
I didn't want to park there and let
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everybody know that there were people in
the cemetery. So I parked underneath this
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street light. I got my jeep
up off the road onto the dirt,
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and I parked underneath the street light, right next to this hiking trail,
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and we went in. Okay,
and we're having all these experience and again
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the dogs and I'm walking with my
camera recording and the dogs are all going
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off and then you hear this one
dog or you know, at the time,
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we thought it was a dog.
Okay, it did something I don't
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know if you want to call it
a bark or a growl or whatever it
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was, but it was so much
louder and powerful than any of the other
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dogs. We just turned around and
we looked at each other, like we
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know what that is. And all
the dogs stopped barking at that point,
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and it got really quiet, and
it came right from the direction where my
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jeep was parked. Okay, so
now we're leaving us. We're leaving the
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cemetery, got all the evidence.
We're leaving. We've got our head lamps
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one because we're walking out it's in
the dark. And we get to the
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edge of the road. It's a
tune lane road, and my jeep ist
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parked underneath the head of the lamp, the street lamp the street light.
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And as we're starting to walk in
from the street, I see eyes shine
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behind my jeep. But it's not
like something small. It's like it looks
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like it's six feet tull. What's
ever behind my jeep? So I stopped
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Brian, I go, wait,
stop, I said, what's that?
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And he looks and he sees the
eyes shine and it's AMBERI shine, and
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it's looking at us, and we're
looking at it, and you know,
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and we're debating, trying to be
you know, logical, is it a
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deer. If it is, it's
a big buck, you know. I
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was like, man, that thing
is like this s eyes a marm or
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duke, you know, look at
the side of that thing, you know.
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And I'm like, now, we
don't have any weapons on us,
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because we were what we were going
to a regular cemetery in the city.
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It's all all I got on on
me our two cans of pepper spray,
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you know, And so I gave
one to Brian, one to and I
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had one on my big And as
we're walking closer to it, I said,
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well, if if it's a deer, the closer we get to it,
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it'll jump off and run away.
But the closer we're getting to.
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Now we're like in the middle of
the road, and I'm getting really really
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bad vibes, like this is not
good. And I turned to Brian.
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I said, Brian, this is
not no dear. You know, I
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didn't use that language. A little
profanity. Is said. This isn't any
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deer, because whatever this thing is, it's not run. I said,
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whatever this thing is, it's hunting
that trail. Now, if it's hunting
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that trail and it's six feet tall, because the eyes shine is about as
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high as I am. Six feet
tall, either it's standing straight up or
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it's something sitting on its haunches.
And if it's something sitting on its haunches,
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how tall is it when it stands
up? And I told Brian,
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I said, either this thing and
neither one of us wanted to use the
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D word, right, I said, either this thing is hunting that trail
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because dear use it to go back
and forth across the road, and it's
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a good hunting, a good ambush
spot, or it's hunting that trail because
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it thinks some idiot it's parked here
jogging this trail at night and we're easy
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prey. You know what? I
mean, and Brian's like, I don't
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know. Alice will just keep going
and maybe it'll it'll run off. And
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as we get closer and closer,
my spidy sense is tinging, tingling,
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and I'm like, dude, I
don't like this. I feel vulnerable.
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This is no good, this,
that and the other thing. And then
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Brian says, I have to piss, and I was like, well,
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you're not pissing here, Get in
the jeep and I'll pull on the other
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side of the road and you can
piss in the empty lot across the street.
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Because I don't know what this thing
is and it's not leaving, you
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know what I mean. It hasn't
moved. He's like, no, I
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have to go right now. If
I don't go right now, I'm going
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to pee in your car. Said, oh, you're not. I'm gonna
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pee in my car, so you
better go. So he steps out behind
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the car a couple of feet.
I'm throwing my all our equipment into the
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back of my jeep, never taking
my eyes off of this thing, because
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I am getting such bad vibes that
we are in harm's way and we both
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know, we just both know we're
dealing with a dog man here and where,
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and he's peeing and he's doing this
piss that goes on for like three
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hours, and I'm screaming and cursing
at him, getting the f and car
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Brian or I'll leave you. And
he's like, you're not gonna leave me?
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What would you tell my wife and
kids? Ha? I'm like,
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dude, getting the car because I
swear to God, I feel like it's
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this thing explodes out of his woods. Not only is he a dead man
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because he's got his back to it, but I'm a dead man. Only
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thing I got between me and him
is my cheap door. So eventually this
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creature goes dark. Now I don't
know if it closed its eyes or if
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it's shut off the light and its
eyes. I don't know what it did,
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but every fiber of my being was
telling me that it had dropped down
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to its belly, and it was
belly crawling towards Brian. I jumped into
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jeep and I backed the jeep up
as close as I can to him without
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hitting him or the tree, and
I swing my passenger inside door op but
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to put it in between him in
this creature, because that's the only thing
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that is going to stop this creature
from grabbing him and ripping him to shreds
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at that door. And at some
point during his twenty minute piss, he
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got the goose bumps from head to
tell that he was in arm's way,
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and he said, Okay, now
it's time to go, and he jumped
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into that truck and I did a
dukes of hazard three six the added air,
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and I got couldn't get out of
the air fast enough, kicking up
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dirt. And I don't know how
close we came to being killed that night,
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but I'm going to say we came
pretty damn close, considering we didn't
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have any weapons and defend ourselves.
That's intense, man. That could have
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ended a whole different way. Wow. Yeah, Yeah. The scariest thing
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is that you said, it's it's
in the middle of a like a city
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town where it's unexpected. It's like
a little bit like a little little neighborhood
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built right across the street. But
like I said, you can't see the
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neighborhood from the cemetery because here's still
a quarter mile away in the woods,
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you know, and there's nothing but
woods around you, you know. And
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yeah, and I think it was
that dog man that made that structure,
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because I had never seen anything like
quite like that in my life. It
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was just the most craziest looking structure
you've ever seen. It really wasn't.
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I believe, and this is just
one man's opinion. I believe that dog
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Man had seen that jeep and said, oh, easy price. Someone is
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hiking this trail and it's at night, and he said, I'm just going
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to sit here for whoever this idiot
is come to come running down the trail,
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that I'm going to grab and drag
him away and no one will ever
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find them. But we didn't come
down the trail. We didn't go up
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the trail. We came from across
the street, and its eyeshine gave it
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away. You know, you couldn't
see it in the book, even though
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it was the fall. It blended
into the shrubs and everything. You couldn't
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see it. And I'm telling you, when when anything went dark and I
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could no longer see its eyes,
every alarm in my brain was going off.
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Time to leave, time to leave. I couldn't get Brian to get
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in the car. I just wanted
to put that road in my car between
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him and that creature while he went
urinated, you know what I mean.
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But he wouldn't. He said,
he couldn't make it across the street.
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How long was it going to take
us to get across the street? Five
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seconds? Ten seconds? He couldn't
make any said, and I was like,
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dude, you're gonna get us ball, you know right? Oh man,
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that'd have been terrible. It's something
you had mentioned in passing earlier.
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Is you mentioned that someone has actually
taken down a dog man before? Is
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that anything you have any more info
about or or do you know where what
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happened to the bodies or anything of
that. From what I understand that it's
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a couple of different people that I
know that I've spoken through that did it.
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One group or a bunch of you
know people you know, like outdoor n
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people, you know what I mean, people who hunt for a living and
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stuff like that. And you know, they took it down and then they
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buried They put the bodies in ditches
and burnt them so there was no evidence
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of them because the government is watching
these creatures. I had a how do
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I put this? I had men
in black experience over my dog man investigations.
401
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I wasn't necessarily guys in black,
but they looked like special ops guys,
402
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you know what I mean. And
they knew everything about me and Brian
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and our groups and every and we
held two meetings, one downstate, one
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upstate, and everything about everything and
threatened me with stuff that was so vile
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that I was like, listen,
keep me out of woods. For two
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years. You know, I didn't
go back in the woods. But they
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do monitor these creatures, you know, And so yeah, I mean,
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it's just the second group were Native
Americans that I know. There's an Iroquois
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museum not far from my house,
and whenever I get the opportunity to go
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there, I'd like to go there
and do a tour. And you know,
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they know me. Now. I've
picked enough brains, and I go
412
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to there and I talked to the
elders and I picked their brains about stuff.
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And whenever there's whenever the tribes in
this area have pow wows, they
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have two or three of them in
this area, I go to all three
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again. I try to sit down
with the elders and the shamans and pick
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their brains. I've been to enough
of them now that they know who I
417
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am, you know what I mean, So they tell me stuff. And
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one of the ones that were that
told me about them killing the goverment were
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the Native Americans. They said they
killed them and they buried them in the
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sacred cemeteries. You know, they're
sacred sites, you know, so they
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just buried them. What, Yeah, that's incredible. Yeah yeah, So
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I mean, you know, like
I said, the ones that are flesh
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and blood can be killed, and
I and honestly personally, I believe the
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ones that are even interdimensional when they're
here in our dimension, they're flesh and
425
00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:00.400
blood and they can be killed as
well, you know what I mean.
426
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:07.440
So the only thing you really can't
kill are the ones that are demons that
427
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:12.319
are looked at disguising themselves as a
dougument. But the other two I believe
428
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could both be killed. And like
I said, now both both groups.
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The guys I know, the hunters
that I know that killed them at their
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hunting lodge up in the Adirondis,
you know what I mean, they've buried
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them on their property, and the
Native Americans on the on the on their
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reservation. You know, both groups, the ones that they've burned and buried
433
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the bones because no one wants to
deal with any read concussions from the government,
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you know. So I don't know
what the government has to do with
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these creatures or what they're you know, what's going on, why they're monitoring
436
00:33:55.200 --> 00:34:00.119
them, or what they're monitoring.
But you know, no one, no
437
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:04.839
one wants to deal with the God
Brent when it comes to this stuff,
438
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:10.360
because believe me, they don't play
games. They they don't play games.
439
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:16.480
When I when I was had my
experience, I felt like I was going
440
00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:21.559
to get whacked that day. I
said, oh, these guys are gonna
441
00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:23.400
whack me. Just leave me here
lunched over my car, you know,
442
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:27.679
never mind all the vile stuff they
were telling me that they were going to
443
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:30.320
do to me if I didn't they
had our woods. Did they show up
444
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:36.119
at their house at your house?
Now? But they followed They followed me
445
00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:39.679
for about two weeks. Every day
they would just they would like they would
446
00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:43.880
fall out of the sky in the
middle of the park where it would be
447
00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:46.920
behind me. Every day and it
didn't matter what time I left to go
448
00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:51.119
to work or what time I left
work to come home. I don't know
449
00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:53.880
if they were tracking me. There
was a certain location that every time I
450
00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:58.800
passed it, two minutes later they
were behind me. I don't know where
451
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they came from. It just boomed. They were behind me, you know.
452
00:35:02.599 --> 00:35:07.199
And so I don't know if they
were tracking my car or what,
453
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:10.000
because I was trying to bury my
time from going to work. From one
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day, I would go four o'clock, five o'clock, since o'clock, and
455
00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:19.000
it didn't matter no matter what time
I went past that one exit, boom,
456
00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:21.920
two minutes later they were and they
would follow me for a couple of
457
00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:24.000
exits, and then they would get
off, just to remind me that they
458
00:35:24.039 --> 00:35:29.239
were still watching me, you know. So wow, And the same thing
459
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:30.679
coming home. It didn't matter if
I worked eight hours, ten hours,
460
00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:35.320
and twelve hours whenever I came home. So as I passed that exit there,
461
00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:37.960
they were just fall out of the
sky. Never even seen him come
462
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on and get on the park.
We all all of a sudden they were
463
00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:45.800
right behind me, just like they
fall out of the sky. But you're
464
00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:50.960
saying it eventually came to a head
where there was a confrontation and they were
465
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actually the woods. The very first
time they pulled me over, they pulled
466
00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:02.159
me over. There's an abandoned ski
lodge up here off the parkway that I
467
00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:07.960
drive through, and I drives on
and it has this giant parking lot,
468
00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:10.440
you know, you would imagine a
big parking lot for ski lodge, right,
469
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:16.840
And they had a lot of like
construction material and dirt and rocks and
470
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:21.679
stuff. And one day I was
driving home. It's just cruising up the
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parkway, chilling, you know,
listening to Leonard Skinner, just minding my
472
00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:29.880
own business. When this car pulls
up behind me, falls out of the
473
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sky and it's up here. The
state police have blue and gold cars and
474
00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:38.480
the park police have white and green
cars. While I see this park police
475
00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:45.320
car pull up behind me, put
its lights on and tell me over the
476
00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:51.119
loudspeaker to pull into the abandoned you
know, get the ski resort. So
477
00:36:51.639 --> 00:36:53.800
I pull in. I know,
I'm not speeding, I'm just cruising,
478
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:58.280
you know what I mean. And
I pull in and he tell me go
479
00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:01.840
behind that big pile of rocks,
you know, like gravel, and it's
480
00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:05.960
like go behind it, which didn't
ring. Didn't feel right to me to
481
00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:07.639
go behind her like, and so
no one can see me back there,
482
00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:12.840
you know, And then I get
back there, and again on the loudspeaker,
483
00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:15.159
they say, shut the karo,
take the keys out and throw it
484
00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:19.639
on the floor of the passenger side, the seat built on, and put
485
00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:22.880
your hands on the steering wheel,
roll down the witness. So I do
486
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:24.079
what they're saying because I don't want
to get shot, you know what I
487
00:37:24.119 --> 00:37:28.639
mean. I don't know what these
guys are these cars. I'm assuming they're
488
00:37:28.679 --> 00:37:30.800
regular cops, you know. And
then they get out of the car,
489
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:35.360
and both of these guys look like
Arnold Schwarzenegger, you know what I mean.
490
00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:40.280
And and the long guy pulls out
a little black book and he says,
491
00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:45.760
reading off of all this stuff about
me, and he's screaming at me.
492
00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:46.840
You know, you think you know
what, you think, you know
493
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:50.719
what you're dealing with. You have
no clue what you're dealing with. Stay
494
00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:55.840
out of Longwoods. And I was
actually researching a certain location at that time
495
00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:59.760
because I had just seen a dog
man at that location, you know,
496
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:04.280
Yes, I was researching that area. And then the other guy started screaming,
497
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:07.199
and they're bolt screaming at me from
both sides of the car, but
498
00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:12.480
neither one of them came close enough
to put their hands on the car.
499
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:15.280
Said if they put their hands on
the roof, maybe I get their fingerprints,
500
00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:17.679
you know. And then I said, well, let me see some
501
00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:21.960
ID because you guys are in playing
clothes. I goes, you want to
502
00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:22.679
see ID. I go, yeah, I want to see the ID.
503
00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:27.920
He showed me his gun. He
is my ID. I said, okay,
504
00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:30.639
that's good. That's good enough for
me, you know. And then
505
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:35.840
the other guy actually pulled out a
badge, but it was like the badge
506
00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:39.760
didn't match the car. It was
like they pulled the badge off of a
507
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:43.440
wall or something, you know what
I mean, like maybe a retire re
508
00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:46.559
cop with something. I don't know. It's just nothing felt right, you
509
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:51.880
know, didn't It didn't didn't feel
right the whole thing. And they're screaming
510
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:53.159
at me, and it tell me
this, and they tell me that they
511
00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:55.320
out of the woods. And if
you don't, you know, not only
512
00:38:55.320 --> 00:39:00.639
are you gonna lose your pension,
but you're gonna the other really really bad
513
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:04.039
things are going to happen to you. We have the ability to do whatever
514
00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:09.159
we need to do to you via
technology and everything else, you know,
515
00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:13.559
And I'm like, you know,
time out, Calm down, what do
516
00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:15.199
you guys want. It's tell me
what you want. You got it,
517
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:19.880
you know. And the exprement standard
woods. We don't want you going into
518
00:39:19.880 --> 00:39:22.920
the woods. We don't want you
going into state parks, county parks,
519
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:25.599
national parks. We don't even want
you to go into the soccer field,
520
00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:29.119
you know. And they didn't want
me in any kind of park, you
521
00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:34.559
know. And I was like okay. And we were doing a UFO meeting
522
00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:40.840
upstate that Thursday. We did a
paranormal one down in Westchester and a UFO
523
00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:45.639
one up in Dutchess County where I
live. And we were doing a UFO
524
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:47.960
meeting, and you know, we've
had a couple of experiences where people came
525
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:52.840
in that we thought were FEDS,
you know, just the energy they put
526
00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:55.719
off. We both we both look
at each other as I said, that's
527
00:39:55.719 --> 00:40:00.679
a FED. You know, it's
just monitoring the group. And then one
528
00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:02.519
of the guy says to me,
oh, by the way, what are
529
00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:07.320
you guys discussing Thursday night? You
know, a red hook because that's where
530
00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:10.039
it was. And I go,
uh, UFOs an. The other guy
531
00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:14.159
goes he had stick to usoes,
nobody give a shit about them, stay
532
00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:16.920
out of my woods. I was
like, until somebody does give a shit,
533
00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:21.639
But until somebody does give a shit
about it right then comes and knocks
534
00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:23.679
on my door. But I was
like, okay, no problem. Then
535
00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:27.360
just before they left, they turned
to Maya. Oh, by the way,
536
00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:31.000
tell your fat f and friend my
partner Brian, that we know where
537
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:35.199
he lives. They gave me his
building number, he lived in lived in
538
00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:38.559
a big building down in the Bronx. Gave me his building number, his
539
00:40:38.639 --> 00:40:43.719
apartment number, everything you know.
And he said, tell him it would
540
00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:46.360
be terrible because you know, Matt, New York City, you can't own
541
00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:50.400
a gun. It's impossible to own
a gun, right. They said,
542
00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:54.320
it would be terrible if you got
arrested as a domestic terrorists because you never
543
00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:58.599
know what kind of guns we could
pull out of his apartment. And I
544
00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:04.039
was like, whoa, look,
I'll tell my partner what you told me.
545
00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:06.760
But he's his own man. He's
gonna do what he wants. He's
546
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:10.000
a big boy. But I'll pass
the message along to him. And I
547
00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:15.880
called him up immediately and I was
like, dude, you you this is
548
00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:17.639
just what happened. You have to
stay out of the woods. You have
549
00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:22.239
to you have to go into woods
anymore. I said, if they arrest
550
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:24.840
you as a domestic terrorist, you
can't even call a warrior. You have
551
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:30.480
no rights as a domestic terrorist.
God only knows what they'll say they pulled
552
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:31.719
out of your apartment. You know, they may come out of there with
553
00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:36.639
a bazuka, who knows, you
know. And so he went out and
554
00:41:36.679 --> 00:41:39.159
he bought a two way camera for
his car because he wants to film them.
555
00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:43.800
You know, they pulled him over, you know, but he didn't
556
00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:47.880
he you know, we didn't do
any more investigations in the woods. We
557
00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:53.079
started doing more CE fives and stuff
like that. We stayed away from the
558
00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:58.920
woods for a couple of years because
no one wanted to deal with that nonsense.
559
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:02.280
You know. Wow, but but
you tell you, I'll tell you
560
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:08.719
what they told me. Well but
the but yeah, no, I'm glad
561
00:42:08.760 --> 00:42:12.800
you made it too there. And
it sounds like you are going back into
562
00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:16.440
the woods again. So that is
that is good and hopefully nothing else.
563
00:42:16.960 --> 00:42:23.320
I started going back in. I
started going back in two years ago,
564
00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:28.760
I think again when COVID twenty twenty. I think in twenty twenty one.
565
00:42:28.760 --> 00:42:30.920
I started going back in again.
A couple of years had passed, you
566
00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:34.559
know what I mean, And I
was like, Okay, I think we're
567
00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:37.000
good. I think you know what
I honestly, I think what happened was
568
00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:44.880
I happened to see one of these
creatures at the location. So I went,
569
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:47.800
which was one of my locations that
I used for squashing. Okay,
570
00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:52.239
So I happened to see one of
these creatures there, so I started investigating
571
00:42:52.400 --> 00:43:00.880
it. I think they were there
investigating at the same time, and they
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see, you know, and I
was messing up their investigation, and it
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just wanted me added there because they
were in the middle of something. And
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then it needs some greenhorn like me, you know, coming in and messing
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up their gig, you know.
So I think that's what that was all
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about or heard. Yeah, I
haven't seen I've been back to that location
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a couple of times now and again. Sound all kinds of big foot footprints
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there, and a knee print,
a fifth print, all kinds of stuff.
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No more. I haven't seen any
more dog man evidence there, but
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I haven't seen anybody else there either, you know what I mean. So
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it's just been made. Oh sure. Al Santa Riga Squash five. This
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has been an incredible chat I mean, you've got you've been through some amazing
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things. Thank you so much for
hanging out tonight, for chatting and sharing
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some things with my audience. But
what are ways that people can keep up
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to date with all this incredible things
you've got going on? Yeah, you
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could. You could just check out
the Bronze Full Power Normal Society on Facebook.
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We have a group page and we
have a members page the group.
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I do most of my posting in
the group page, Brian does it on
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the other one, but we also
update the US the New York c UFO
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project, the Dogman Project, and
the Bigfoot Project. I'm actually going out
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October Friday, a thirteenth. I'm
going back out to do an investigation.
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There's going to be one percent of
the moon out that night, so it
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should be an interesting night. And
then I'm going back out on the twenty
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eighth. There's going to be a
full moon that night, so that should
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be interesting and I want to compare
how one a full moon and a no
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moon, you know, kind of
energy brings and what kind of evidence you
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know we can collect, So it
should be interesting. Absolutely. Yeah,
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I'm sure we'll be hearing from you
in the future. Al Thank you so
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much for coming on tonight, No
problem, you're a Bigfoot Society article is
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to provide a platform for those that
have encountered Bigfoot to share their encounter in
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a safe and respected environment. But
we need to hear your story. If
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you've experienced something that you just can't
explain, please send me an email at
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Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.
Then we can start the conversation. And
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I know a lot of you have
not shared your encounter at all. It's
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been twenty years and it's time that
you get this off your chest and then
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you can get some well deserved for
rest, because I know you haven't been
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sleeping. I understand what you're going
through, and I appreciate every one of you listening