Dogman Unleashed and Being Silenced by the MIB with the Squatch Father, Al Santariga, Pt. 2

0:00 Either you're listening to the Big Society podcast and I'm Jeremiah Byron. Every week I talk to individuals who have experienced sasquats in some way or another, so you won't want to miss an episode. Make sure you're subscribed on the platform that you're listening to, and share this episode where the friend does not cost a thing, and it helps the show continue to grow. If you'd like to hear Bigfoot Society episodes early an ad free, you can do so by becoming a Patreon supporter or a YouTube channel member. Links to those are in the show notes in Bigfoot Society. I've taken far too much of your time so far, so let's get on with the show. Al Santa Riga, the Squatch Father, I would love to talk to you a little bit about dog Man. So you're not only just into Bigfoot, but you're also looking into dog man in the state of New York. Can you tell tell my listeners, like, what is going on with dog men in your state?

1:04 Well, I mean it's not just my state, it's every state. If you have sasquatch, you have dog men. Okay, there's no doubt in my mind about that. At one of my locations. I go to, the Sasquatch is on the east side of the Rent in the Mountain Range, and the dog men. No, the Sasquatch are on the west side of the Mountain Range. I'm sorry. And the dogmen are on the east side of the Mountain Range. And they're everywhere. They're not just here in New York. There there, Wherever you have sasquatch, wherever you have these large national forests, you'll find these creatures. I mean we've we've had we've actually taken reports of them being at Central Park in New York City being spotted, you know what I mean. So they're not just in the woods, They're they're in the cities too. Yeah know. Like I said this, what happened was originally when we were getting invited to symposiums, we were going as the Bronxville Paranormal Society because you know, we did everything. We were getting a lot of grief from like the euthologists, though, what does the ghost hunters know about UFOs or what the cryptid people would say? What does the you know, you ghost hunters know about cryptids? So we just took the BPS team and we split it up into different groups. When we go to these symposiums. Now we could hang our batter that says, if we're at

2:35 a UFO conference, like every year up here in May, they have the Pine Bush UFO fare. It's Pine Bush is supposed to be the UFO capital of New York State. We go there, We get invited every year we go there. We were actually on the board at one point. We go there every year, and we put up all of our UFO binners, you know what I mean. And now nobody gets us any grief because you don't have to deal with the move On people and stuff like that, you know, because if you're not part of mouf On, they they don't. They look at you cock eyed, you know what I mean. So I am part of mouf On, so I get invited anyway, you know. But even if I go as the New York State UFO projects, I don't, I don't catch any grief. And that's how all the all the groups actually got started, you know what I mean. We said, you know, we don't. We didn't come here to fight with anybody. Let's let's make everybody happy and we'll have the same team to give different labels different parts of the you know, one of one unit, and so we when we did the Dogman stuff, we came up with the Dogman, the New York City Dogman Project. We were actually before we started the New York State Dogman Project, we were like Miami Partner, Brian. We were National North American dog Man Project, New York State Chapter Director. That's what our title was, okay, And then there was an issue with somebody on the NADP and and

4:14 us I'm not actually my partner, and so we decided to just walk away from that start our own group. We ended up with the New York State dog Man Project. But eventually that guy left, and you know, Jody Cook, who's the founder of it, asked us to come back and be directed. As a matter of fact, I know they want me to be the regional director, the Eastern regional director, but I really don't have time to be the region I barely have enough time to be the state director, never mind the whole region, you know. But so we started our own thing. And we knew we we we had experienced dog manas a couple of different locations, and we knew where they were, and you know, went if we knew if we went to certain locations, like long story shot, we found a den and in the den right we I was being pulled into the woods. To know why being pulled into the woods? Long story shot, We find the den and we zoom into the den with one of my camera guy has like this camera that you can see the alien bases on the moon, and he zooms into the den and there's a giant canine head like a wolfhead, facing south, and right next to that is another one that

5:46 looks like a hyena snarling at us. Okay, and we were actually at that location months before where we were bluff charged, and at a point we were bluff charged, we thought we were being bluff charged by a big foot because the big foot came out and did three whoops, and then it did tree knocks, and I did tree knocks, and they did rock knocks, and then eventually it threw a rock at us, the size of a ball of ball that came down over the trees and landed in between all three of us, and I hindsight being twenty twenty, it was trying to get us out of that location because we were in a danger zone. You know, we didn't know that the dog Man's Den was behind us. In the swamp.

6:33 We were up on a high ridge and it was trying to get us out of there, but I was very stubborn at night. I wouldn't leave, and eventually the big Foot backed away and the dog man bluff charged us. Came charging up the ridge after us, and we pulled out our machetes and we stood our grounds and we heard it come charging up like a quadruped, charging up the ridge. But it never came over. It was like a little stone three foot stone wall. It never came over the stone wall. We thought it the whole time. We thought it was the big Foot. Months later, we put all our evidence out on our pages, on our YouTube page and on our Facebook page, and actually somebody from I think it was from California called me up and said, you're knowing that one photograph you took of that stone wall. And I was like yeah, he says, there's a dogman in that photograph. I was like, send me the picture. He sends me the picture. I thought it was photoshops. Right, I look at it. I take my SD card out of my camera, I put it in my computer and right there. I mean, I don't know how we didn't see it, but there it is, and I believe it's the one that looked like the hyena that was standing behind the wall sniffing us. And you could see its nose. It's got a square mug and it snout and it's got pointed ears, and you could see its eyes shine from the flesh of the camera. And then that same guy sent me an up. He called me up again and he said, hey, al,

8:05 you know you got a big foot in that picture of you guys at the meadow which we had moved out of that location at one point and moved to another location. We were doing three different one two, three different locations that night, and he said, you know, you got a big foot underneath a tree at the meadow. And I was like, what are you talking about? And he said it to me again. I dought it with photoshops and again I put the SD card in there, and there, you know, in the shadows of the of the photo, underneath this one little red oak maple tree, the only tree that has leaves on it right, is this giant sasquatch head. And you can see it's like leaning on its belly and it's on its forearms and it's watching us. Now, I don't know if it was watching us because what we were doing, there was a lot of stuff going on in the meadow and it was way too much to get into. Now, if it was watching us because of all the activity we had going on, or if it was just hanging around to make sure those two dogmen and come at it at then and shred us, you know.

9:11 But I think that I think the reason why that one dog man chose not to come over over that wall was because all three of us did have eighteen inch machetes, you know what I mean. And I believe the dog man and the big Foot as well, respect of the long blade more than the gun, you know, because they've been on this planet for millennium, they've probably dealt with men for thousands of years and seeing what swords and spears and long knives can do to each other to them as well, you know. So yeah, I think I think it was those long blades that stopped.

9:54 And I think it was because we were set up in like a triangle formation with me at the front. And I got to be ly honest with you, when I heard this thing coming up the ridge, and that you could hear the bipedal because it was again. It was in the fall and there was a lot of leaflet and you could hear all four legs hitting the ground jump running coming up. I thought not that, I thought it was the big foot charge on us. I thought it was either a black bear or a mountain lion. And I said, oh my god, this mountain lion is going to come over this wall, and I'm going to be the first person that sees. I'm gonna have to sacrifice my left arm and stab it with my machette, you know what I mean. And but nothing came over the wall. But the crazy thing is we never heard it leave either.

10:39 You know, as loud as it was coming up the ridge, it never made a sound leaving. So I don't know where it went. But that's a long it's another experience that goes on. That's a long experience. Had so much stuff involved in that one. If I tell you everything, get what happened on that night, it would blow your mind. Oh absolutely. And it's crazy because you kind of there's a there's a place I was wanting to go, and you kind of already went there a little bit, so I'm excited you already did. But let me preface this question a little bit. So there's a podcast I love called Cryptids of the Corn and they have an episode about dog Man, but it's specifically down in Kentucky and it's not all about Dogman, but it talks about how the potentiality that dog Man could be a misidentified North American hyena. And you kind of brought up that what you saw looked like a hyaena in that sighting. Do you have any thoughts like, do you think there could be a correlation there or if you think dog Man is another thing entirely, what do you think this creature is?

11:50 I personally, I believe there are a couple of different misidentifications. I believe there is a creature that is wolf like that can go buy people, that is flesh and blood. I believe it's I don't know where it's from or how it got here, but I believe there is a flesh and blood creature all of the world around psychics that I have met over the years at all the symposiums. Whenever I get to sit down at a table one of these psychics, I have to pick their brains and one of the first questions I always ask them is what's your opinion on a dog man, and they always tell me interdimensional being. That's what they tell me, interdimensional being.

12:39 Now I believe there aren't dog men that are interdimensional beings. But then there are people who say that dog man come in their house and this and that the other thing. And I think the creatures that they've seen that are that are actually coming into these people's homes and scaring them and threatening them, and are demonic creatures that are using their fear of the dog man to get that adrenaline, you know what I mean. That's that rush from them, the feed off of that sphere, you know what I mean. I don't believe that even if the dog man is interdimensional and it can go from our dimension to another realm, I don't think it necessarily it's using that ability to pop in and out of people's homes. You know. I've heard too many stories with hey, we'd just ripped the door off of hinges and shred everybody in the house. They're not popping in and out, you know. Now, I've I've known, I've interview I've talked to people who have killed these creatures, you know what I mean, so they can be killed. And I've talked to people who have shot them multiple times, followed them, follow them, follow the blood trail to certain point, and it just disappears. Those little ones I think that are interdimensional, they go back to their dimension healed, and the ones that they actually that are killed here I believe our flesh

14:11 and blood creatures. So I think there's three variants of them as far as like flesh and blood, interdimensional and demonic creatures that may resemble dog men, but you know, demonic creature can resemble whatever your biggest fear is, you know what I mean. So fascinating, that's my Yeah, that's my that's my thoughts on it. Yeah, we'll be back with more Bigfoot Society after these words from our sponsors. Not the first I have heard the interdimensional way of looking at that creature from. It was Jody Cook. We talked years ago and he had some some very interesting thoughts about these could be alien creature, you're just coming from different worlds and trained by the government, et cetera.

15:03 And it was just really eye opening for sure. But you know, has there been a time when let's say you've been out involved with looking for Dogman around Dogman Expedition and things have just got very intense, and you're like, you know, I would much rather not be in the situation right now. Well, there there was a time when we were we were actually we went out one night to do there's a there's an abandoned asylum here in New York State called Letchworth Village. Okay, it's it's a whole village that's basically abandoned, but it was. It was it was an asylum and it was a hospital, and we were investigating hospital. One time we ran into a security guard and a security guard said, you have to go to the cemetery.

15:58 The stem terry is really weird and that they've seen like these light orbs, light like tubs of light come out of the ground, you know. And they said, you guys would love you gotta go there and investigate it. So we said, okay, we'll go investigate it. So one fall, my partner and I, Brian, we went. Really guys on the team. I never had everybody on a team go out to any investigation completely, or someone's always working or going to a wedding or something like that. So Brian and I go out and now this particular cemetery not like any cemetery you've ever seen in your life, and there's no signs for it. I thought we were going to a city cemetery where you could drive right up to the plot, you know what I mean. I've investigated a ton of cemeteries in New York and you usually can drive through them. But we pull into this location. It's in it's just a like a dirt parking lot. We pull in there and we go in the cemetery. There's a giant, giant stone, you know, monument to all the people who were buried there with their names on it. Because there are no headstones there. There are just crosses with numbers on it, okay, And and it's built on a hill, so all the crosses go up the hill. And it's in the middle of the woods. I mean, we had to walk like a quarter mile into the woods to find this place, you know. And we were actually

17:33 had something attached to me there, because Brian was like, what's wrong with you? And I'm like, you know, min denial. I'm saying like, there's nothing wrong with me, but I felt that there was something attached to me, you know, And he's telling me, oh, you don't sound like you, you don't look like you you're not acting, and I'm like, oh, what the hell am I acting? Like? What am I talking like? You know? But I had known, yeah, and I wasn't denial, and he knew I wasn't denial. But so we were doing a day night and we went there and we did all our stuff, all our testing during the day, and there was a must have been like a dog kennel in the neighborhood because there were dogs were just going off and off and off, and I did a tree knock. I don't know why I did a tree knock, but I did a tree knock. And when I did a tree knock, the dogs all went silent, so so so we may notice. That's it's very interesting, you know, we started noticing again. It's a location where we've been there for hours, walking around, and it felt like we had blinders on, like we should be seeing more of but we're not seeing anything. But after that tree knock, it's like the blinders were removed and now we're seeing exes and our arches and bends and brakes and twist and we're thinking, wow, this is really crazy, you know, this this could be a hot location for bigfoot being but we're in the middle of a city, you know. But these woods. The city's built around these woods. So as we're walking out of the woods, I'm being pulled to my left. I don't know why I'm being pulled to my

19:06 left, and so I'm so I'll go. I said, Brian, comes this way. We're walking, we're walking, We're walking, and we're walking across this rocky terrain. I mean, you couldn't You couldn't run across this terrain if you tried, if you went down, you were breaking your knee, your head, whatever. You had to be very careful. And we came across this tree and the only way I could describe it is it looked like this giant oak tree. What other trees, long trees, sixty foot trees jammed up into it, okay, And it went around in a circle like a carousel. And to me, it kind of looked like an umbrella without any skin on it, you know, that was opened. And we're looking at this thing. And the trees that are jammed into the main tree are so big. I mean, there have to be a and a half in diameter. There's sixty if people on't. But the crazy thing about it is they're not touching the ground. They're like nine feet in the air, and we're thinking, what had the strength to do this and still have these up nine feet in the air. They're not even hitting the ground, you know. And then Brian started getting pulled deeper into the woods and I stopped them and I said, Brian, stopped. I feel like we're being pulled into a trap. We're in a really really bad place. We can't barely walk on all these rocks, you know. Never mind trying to run out

20:36 of here. Let's back out of here and come back later. So we backed out and come back later. A lot of crazy stuff happened that night while we were there. But as we were leaving, we had to park the jeep across the street. There was one street light on this whole block, and it was by the entrance of a hiking trail. And I had a jeep it's like one I didn't know if I could park on the road. There was no cars parked on the street. There was no cars parked in the dirt parking lot, so I didn't want to park there and let everybody know that there were people in the cemetery. So I parked underneath this street light. I got my jeep up off the road onto the dirt, and I parked underneath the street light, right next to this hiking trail, and we went in. Okay, and we're having all these experience and again the dogs and I'm walking with my camera recording and the dogs are all going off and then you hear this one dog or you know, at the time, we thought it was a dog. Okay, it did something I don't know if you want to call it a bark or a growl or whatever it was, but it was so much louder and powerful than any of the other dogs. We just turned around and we looked at each other, like we know what that is. And all the dogs stopped barking at that point, and it got really quiet, and it came right from the direction where my jeep was parked. Okay, so now we're leaving us. We're leaving the

22:10 cemetery, got all the evidence. We're leaving. We've got our head lamps one because we're walking out it's in the dark. And we get to the edge of the road. It's a tune lane road, and my jeep ist parked underneath the head of the lamp, the street lamp the street light. And as we're starting to walk in from the street, I see eyes shine behind my jeep. But it's not like something small. It's like it looks like it's six feet tull. What's ever behind my jeep? So I stopped Brian, I go, wait, stop, I said, what's that? And he looks and he sees the eyes shine and it's AMBERI shine, and it's looking at us, and we're looking at it, and you know, and we're debating, trying to be you know, logical, is it a deer. If it is, it's a big buck, you know. I was like, man, that thing is like this s eyes a marm or duke, you know, look at the side of that thing, you know.

23:03 And I'm like, now, we don't have any weapons on us, because we were what we were going to a regular cemetery in the city. It's all all I got on on me our two cans of pepper spray, you know, And so I gave one to Brian, one to and I had one on my big And as we're walking closer to it, I said, well, if if it's a deer, the closer we get to it, it'll jump off and run away. But the closer we're getting to. Now we're like in the middle of the road, and I'm getting really really bad vibes, like this is not good. And I turned to Brian. I said, Brian, this is not no dear. You know, I didn't use that language. A little profanity. Is said. This isn't any deer, because whatever this thing is, it's not run. I said, whatever this thing is, it's hunting that trail. Now, if it's hunting that trail and it's six feet tall, because the eyes shine is about as high as I am. Six feet tall, either it's standing straight up or it's something sitting on its haunches. And if it's something sitting on its haunches, how tall is it when it stands up? And I told Brian, I said, either this thing and neither one of us wanted to use the D word, right, I said, either this thing is hunting that trail because dear use it to go back and forth across the road, and it's a good hunting, a good ambush spot, or it's hunting that trail because

24:34 it thinks some idiot it's parked here jogging this trail at night and we're easy prey. You know what? I mean, and Brian's like, I don't know. Alice will just keep going and maybe it'll it'll run off. And as we get closer and closer, my spidy sense is tinging, tingling, and I'm like, dude, I don't like this. I feel vulnerable. This is no good, this, that and the other thing. And then Brian says, I have to piss, and I was like, well, you're not pissing here, Get in the jeep and I'll pull on the other side of the road and you can piss in the empty lot across the street.

25:14 Because I don't know what this thing is and it's not leaving, you know what I mean. It hasn't moved. He's like, no, I have to go right now. If I don't go right now, I'm going to pee in your car. Said, oh, you're not. I'm gonna pee in my car, so you better go. So he steps out behind the car a couple of feet. I'm throwing my all our equipment into the back of my jeep, never taking my eyes off of this thing, because I am getting such bad vibes that we are in harm's way and we both know, we just both know we're dealing with a dog man here and where, and he's peeing and he's doing this piss that goes on for like three hours, and I'm screaming and cursing at him, getting the f and car Brian or I'll leave you. And he's like, you're not gonna leave me?

26:07 What would you tell my wife and kids? Ha? I'm like, dude, getting the car because I swear to God, I feel like it's this thing explodes out of his woods. Not only is he a dead man because he's got his back to it, but I'm a dead man. Only thing I got between me and him is my cheap door. So eventually this creature goes dark. Now I don't know if it closed its eyes or if it's shut off the light and its eyes. I don't know what it did, but every fiber of my being was telling me that it had dropped down to its belly, and it was belly crawling towards Brian. I jumped into jeep and I backed the jeep up as close as I can to him without hitting him or the tree, and I swing my passenger inside door op but to put it in between him in this creature, because that's the only thing that is going to stop this creature from grabbing him and ripping him to shreds at that door. And at some point during his twenty minute piss, he got the goose bumps from head to tell that he was in arm's way, and he said, Okay, now it's time to go, and he jumped into that truck and I did a dukes of hazard three six the added air, and I got couldn't get out of the air fast enough, kicking up dirt. And I don't know how close we came to being killed that night, but I'm going to say we came pretty damn close, considering we didn't

27:41 have any weapons and defend ourselves. That's intense, man. That could have ended a whole different way. Wow. Yeah, Yeah. The scariest thing is that you said, it's it's in the middle of a like a city town where it's unexpected. It's like a little bit like a little little neighborhood built right across the street. But like I said, you can't see the neighborhood from the cemetery because here's still a quarter mile away in the woods, you know, and there's nothing but woods around you, you know. And yeah, and I think it was that dog man that made that structure, because I had never seen anything like quite like that in my life. It was just the most craziest looking structure you've ever seen. It really wasn't.

28:30 I believe, and this is just one man's opinion. I believe that dog Man had seen that jeep and said, oh, easy price. Someone is hiking this trail and it's at night, and he said, I'm just going to sit here for whoever this idiot is come to come running down the trail, that I'm going to grab and drag him away and no one will ever find them. But we didn't come down the trail. We didn't go up the trail. We came from across the street, and its eyeshine gave it away. You know, you couldn't see it in the book, even though it was the fall. It blended into the shrubs and everything. You couldn't see it. And I'm telling you, when when anything went dark and I could no longer see its eyes, every alarm in my brain was going off.

29:15 Time to leave, time to leave. I couldn't get Brian to get in the car. I just wanted to put that road in my car between him and that creature while he went urinated, you know what I mean. But he wouldn't. He said, he couldn't make it across the street. How long was it going to take us to get across the street? Five seconds? Ten seconds? He couldn't make any said, and I was like, dude, you're gonna get us ball, you know right? Oh man, that'd have been terrible. It's something you had mentioned in passing earlier. Is you mentioned that someone has actually taken down a dog man before? Is that anything you have any more info about or or do you know where what happened to the bodies or anything of that. From what I understand that it's a couple of different people that I know that I've spoken through that did it.

30:12 We'll be back with more Bigfoot Society after these words from our sponsors. One group or a bunch of you know people you know, like outdoor n people, you know what I mean, people who hunt for a living and stuff like that. And you know, they took it down and then they buried They put the bodies in ditches and burnt them so there was no evidence of them because the government is watching these creatures. I had a how do I put this? I had men in black experience over my dog man investigations.

31:03 I wasn't necessarily guys in black, but they looked like special ops guys, you know what I mean. And they knew everything about me and Brian and our groups and every and we held two meetings, one downstate, one upstate, and everything about everything and threatened me with stuff that was so vile that I was like, listen, keep me out of woods. For two years. You know, I didn't go back in the woods. But they do monitor these creatures, you know, And so yeah, I mean, it's just the second group were Native Americans that I know. There's an Iroquois museum not far from my house, and whenever I get the opportunity to go there, I'd like to go there and do a tour. And you know, they know me. Now. I've picked enough brains, and I go to there and I talked to the elders and I picked their brains about stuff.

32:00 And whenever there's whenever the tribes in this area have pow wows, they have two or three of them in this area, I go to all three again. I try to sit down with the elders and the shamans and pick their brains. I've been to enough of them now that they know who I am, you know what I mean, So they tell me stuff. And one of the ones that were that told me about them killing the goverment were the Native Americans. They said they killed them and they buried them in the sacred cemeteries. You know, they're sacred sites, you know, so they just buried them. What, Yeah, that's incredible. Yeah yeah, So I mean, you know, like I said, the ones that are flesh and blood can be killed, and I and honestly personally, I believe the ones that are even interdimensional when they're here in our dimension, they're flesh and blood and they can be killed as well, you know what I mean.

33:02 So the only thing you really can't kill are the ones that are demons that are looked at disguising themselves as a dougument. But the other two I believe could both be killed. And like I said, now both both groups. The guys I know, the hunters that I know that killed them at their hunting lodge up in the Adirondis, you know what I mean, they've buried them on their property, and the Native Americans on the on the on their reservation. You know, both groups, the ones that they've burned and buried the bones because no one wants to deal with any read concussions from the government, you know. So I don't know what the government has to do with these creatures or what they're you know, what's going on, why they're monitoring them, or what they're monitoring. But you know, no one, no one wants to deal with the God Brent when it comes to this stuff, because believe me, they don't play games. They they don't play games.

34:10 When I when I was had my experience, I felt like I was going to get whacked that day. I said, oh, these guys are gonna whack me. Just leave me here lunched over my car, you know, never mind all the vile stuff they were telling me that they were going to do to me if I didn't they had our woods. Did they show up at their house at your house? Now? But they followed They followed me for about two weeks. Every day they would just they would like they would fall out of the sky in the middle of the park where it would be behind me. Every day and it didn't matter what time I left to go to work or what time I left work to come home. I don't know if they were tracking me. There was a certain location that every time I passed it, two minutes later they were behind me. I don't know where they came from. It just boomed. They were behind me, you know.

35:02 And so I don't know if they were tracking my car or what, because I was trying to bury my time from going to work. From one day, I would go four o'clock, five o'clock, since o'clock, and it didn't matter no matter what time I went past that one exit, boom, two minutes later they were and they would follow me for a couple of exits, and then they would get off, just to remind me that they were still watching me, you know. So wow, And the same thing coming home. It didn't matter if I worked eight hours, ten hours, and twelve hours whenever I came home. So as I passed that exit there, they were just fall out of the sky. Never even seen him come on and get on the park. We all all of a sudden they were right behind me, just like they fall out of the sky. But you're saying it eventually came to a head where there was a confrontation and they were actually the woods. The very first time they pulled me over, they pulled me over. There's an abandoned ski lodge up here off the parkway that I drive through, and I drives on and it has this giant parking lot, you know, you would imagine a big parking lot for ski lodge, right, And they had a lot of like construction material and dirt and rocks and stuff. And one day I was driving home. It's just cruising up the parkway, chilling, you know, listening to Leonard Skinner, just minding my own business. When this car pulls up behind me, falls out of the sky and it's up here. The state police have blue and gold cars and

36:35 the park police have white and green cars. While I see this park police car pull up behind me, put its lights on and tell me over the loudspeaker to pull into the abandoned you know, get the ski resort. So I pull in. I know, I'm not speeding, I'm just cruising, you know what I mean. And I pull in and he tell me go behind that big pile of rocks, you know, like gravel, and it's like go behind it, which didn't ring. Didn't feel right to me to go behind her like, and so no one can see me back there, you know, And then I get back there, and again on the loudspeaker, they say, shut the karo, take the keys out and throw it on the floor of the passenger side, the seat built on, and put your hands on the steering wheel, roll down the witness. So I do what they're saying because I don't want to get shot, you know what I mean. I don't know what these guys are these cars. I'm assuming they're regular cops, you know. And then they get out of the car, and both of these guys look like Arnold Schwarzenegger, you know what I mean.

37:36 And and the long guy pulls out a little black book and he says, reading off of all this stuff about me, and he's screaming at me. You know, you think you know what, you think, you know what you're dealing with. You have no clue what you're dealing with. Stay out of Longwoods. And I was actually researching a certain location at that time because I had just seen a dog man at that location, you know, Yes, I was researching that area. And then the other guy started screaming, and they're bolt screaming at me from both sides of the car, but neither one of them came close enough to put their hands on the car. Said if they put their hands on the roof, maybe I get their fingerprints, you know. And then I said, well, let me see some ID because you guys are in playing clothes. I goes, you want to see ID. I go, yeah, I want to see the ID.

38:23 He showed me his gun. He is my ID. I said, okay, that's good. That's good enough for me, you know. And then the other guy actually pulled out a badge, but it was like the badge didn't match the car. It was like they pulled the badge off of a wall or something, you know what I mean, like maybe a retire re cop with something. I don't know. It's just nothing felt right, you know, didn't It didn't didn't feel right the whole thing. And they're screaming at me, and it tell me this, and they tell me that they out of the woods. And if you don't, you know, not only are you gonna lose your pension, but you're gonna the other really really bad things are going to happen to you. We have the ability to do whatever we need to do to you via technology and everything else, you know, And I'm like, you know, time out, Calm down, what do you guys want. It's tell me what you want. You got it, you know. And the exprement standard woods. We don't want you going into the woods. We don't want you going into state parks, county parks, national parks. We don't even want you to go into the soccer field, you know. And they didn't want me in any kind of park, you know. And I was like okay. And we were doing a UFO meeting upstate that Thursday. We did a paranormal one down in Westchester and a UFO one up in Dutchess County where I live. And we were doing a UFO meeting, and you know, we've had a couple of experiences where people came in that we thought were FEDS, you know, just the energy they put off. We both we both look at each other as I said, that's

39:55 a FED. You know, it's just monitoring the group. And then one of the guy says to me, oh, by the way, what are you guys discussing Thursday night? You know, a red hook because that's where it was. And I go, uh, UFOs an. The other guy goes he had stick to usoes, nobody give a shit about them, stay out of my woods. I was like, until somebody does give a shit, But until somebody does give a shit about it right then comes and knocks on my door. But I was like, okay, no problem. Then just before they left, they turned to Maya. Oh, by the way, tell your fat f and friend my partner Brian, that we know where he lives. They gave me his building number, he lived in lived in a big building down in the Bronx. Gave me his building number, his apartment number, everything you know. And he said, tell him it would be terrible because you know, Matt, New York City, you can't own a gun. It's impossible to own a gun, right. They said, it would be terrible if you got arrested as a domestic terrorists because you never know what kind of guns we could pull out of his apartment. And I was like, whoa, look, I'll tell my partner what you told me.

41:04 But he's his own man. He's gonna do what he wants. He's a big boy. But I'll pass the message along to him. And I called him up immediately and I was like, dude, you you this is just what happened. You have to stay out of the woods. You have to you have to go into woods anymore. I said, if they arrest you as a domestic terrorist, you can't even call a warrior. You have no rights as a domestic terrorist. God only knows what they'll say they pulled out of your apartment. You know, they may come out of there with a bazuka, who knows, you know. And so he went out and he bought a two way camera for his car because he wants to film them. You know, they pulled him over, you know, but he didn't he you know, we didn't do any more investigations in the woods. We started doing more CE fives and stuff like that. We stayed away from the woods for a couple of years because no one wanted to deal with that nonsense.

41:59 You know. Wow, but but you tell you, I'll tell you what they told me. Well but the but yeah, no, I'm glad you made it too there. And it sounds like you are going back into the woods again. So that is that is good and hopefully nothing else. I started going back in. I started going back in two years ago, I think again when COVID twenty twenty. I think in twenty twenty one. I started going back in again. A couple of years had passed, you know what I mean, And I was like, Okay, I think we're good. I think you know what I honestly, I think what happened was I happened to see one of these creatures at the location. So I went, which was one of my locations that I used for squashing. Okay, So I happened to see one of these creatures there, so I started investigating it. I think they were there investigating at the same time, and they see, you know, and I was messing up their investigation, and it just wanted me added there because they were in the middle of something. And then it needs some greenhorn like me, you know, coming in and messing up their gig, you know. So I think that's what that was all about or heard. Yeah, I haven't seen I've been back to that location a couple of times now and again. Sound all kinds of big foot footprints

43:29 there, and a knee print, a fifth print, all kinds of stuff. No more. I haven't seen any more dog man evidence there, but I haven't seen anybody else there either, you know what I mean. So it's just been made. Oh sure. Al Santa Riga Squash five. This has been an incredible chat I mean, you've got you've been through some amazing things. Thank you so much for hanging out tonight, for chatting and sharing some things with my audience. But what are ways that people can keep up to date with all this incredible things you've got going on? Yeah, you could. You could just check out the Bronze Full Power Normal Society on Facebook.

44:10 We have a group page and we have a members page the group. I do most of my posting in the group page, Brian does it on the other one, but we also update the US the New York c UFO project, the Dogman Project, and the Bigfoot Project. I'm actually going out October Friday, a thirteenth. I'm going back out to do an investigation. There's going to be one percent of the moon out that night, so it should be an interesting night. And then I'm going back out on the twenty eighth. There's going to be a full moon that night, so that should be interesting and I want to compare how one a full moon and a no moon, you know, kind of energy brings and what kind of evidence you know we can collect, So it should be interesting. Absolutely. Yeah, I'm sure we'll be hearing from you in the future. Al Thank you so much for coming on tonight, No problem, you're a Bigfoot Society article is to provide a platform for those that have encountered Bigfoot to share their encounter in a safe and respected environment. But we need to hear your story. If you've experienced something that you just can't explain, please send me an email at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. Then we can start the conversation. And I know a lot of you have not shared your encounter at all. It's

45:43 been twenty years and it's time that you get this off your chest and then you can get some well deserved for rest, because I know you haven't been sleeping. I understand what you're going through, and I appreciate every one of you listening