Dreams of the Sasquatch!

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0:43 Welcome to big for Society. If you have Bigfoot activity to report from the same areas discussed in this episode, please reach out to me directly after this episode, and if you'd like to be on the podcast to discuss a personal Bigfoot encounter, please reach out to me directly at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. Do you wish there was more big for Society to listen to every week? Well there is now. If you become a supporting member over at Patreon, you get a special members only episode every single week on Wednesdays, and sometimes even more episodes head on over to Patreon dot com. Ford Slash the Big for Society and now let's get on with the show. All right, Big forst Society. You've got the privilege of talking to Joe. Joe's an individual who reached out to me from central Oregon. He's got some really interesting things that have happened along the years that he'll be sharing.

1:35 But Joe, it's a pleasure to have you on the show. How's it going, man, it's going pretty good. Thanks, thanks for having me on. Absolutely, you're you were just telling me before the show started that you know, this is probably one of the really first times that you've shared what you've experienced over the years. And this takes place among different states. But you know, I'm going to go ahead and pass things right over to you and just feel free to take us back to where we need to be for that that first encounter that you had in your life. Yeah. So I grew up in the western Pennsylvania. It's it's Beaver County. It's just a small you know, a lot of farms. I grew up hunting, trapping stuff like that.

2:26 But yeah, my mom was driving us home. It was just my mother and me and I was in the passenger rear seat of the car, and just I always always look out the window and I enjoy nature. And we were just driving down an old old road, country road, and I there's kind of like a power line, so the power line and there's two there's two woodlines and the power line in between the power line. It was kept kept up with you know, the farmer cut the grass and stuff, so it was like short. But anyway, I was just looking out the window and all of a sudden I caught it, caught a glimpse of something running on all fours and the only thing that I could think of, like right off, right off the top of my head, was like a rhino because the thing was giant. It was gray, and it had long hair, but it was it was on all fours when it was running, and it only took maybe four or five I don't know if you want to call them galops or whatever, but to make it to the other woodline.

3:46 But I remember seeing the face and it wasn't quite like you know, you'd see like a typical sasquatch or you know, like a dog man or you know you hear you know, they have the pointed snouts. It did have like a pronounced snout, and no, it didn't have any hair, you know, on its face. But I was, you know, all around it. But that was that was my first time ever seeing something. I had no clue what it was because I mean, you know, I've been to the Pittsburgh Zoo and I grew up around cattle farms.

4:30 I hunted, I trapped, I knew all the animals that were around us, and I just I couldn't. I couldn't explain it. I couldn't explain it, and like it wasn't making any sense. And like I was telling you earlier, I don't know why, I didn't even say anything to my mom. I was, I don't know, Like I didn't say anything until like twelve years probably twelve years ago to a lady that I worked with. I just felt comfortable because she was, you know, kind of I lost my mom a long time ago, but she was kind of like, you know, my mom's age, and I kind of opened up to her and told her what I had saw that day, and it's it's very weird.

5:25 Do you mind if I ask a few questions about that first sighting you had? Sure? Yes, yes, did you see the years at all, you said. I didn't see any No, the only thing that stood out to me was, well, there are a few things. It was huge. The hair was like, you know, like a light gray, and it was long. And then the face it was it was kind of reminded me like like you know, like an Alvino gorilla, that's what you know.

6:07 But the the snout or whatever, the nose or the mouth was kind of you know, protruding. Was It wasn't real long like you you hear people with dog Man and stuff like that, but it was definitely not like you know, Patty or anything like that. Oh yeah, and I've never I never grew up watching anything like that until maybe the Harry Harry and the Henderson's came out. You know, that's the only time like I ever saw you know, quote unquote bigfoot. You know what it's supposed to look like. You know, we didn't have we had a black and white TV grown up. You know, there's no internet, nothing like that. So it was it just baffled me for years. I mean, it wasn't like a you know, a bad dream, you know, like I was thinking about it all the time. It was you know when when it came up. You know, I just I still I'm still trying to wrap my head around it.

7:06 M It's it's a really really unique I mean, I haven't gotten any reports even even close to the way it was acting, or the or the way it looked. Were all the legs the same length from what you saw. From what I saw the back, the back, you know, the back to or slightly longer, but not much. You know, we we have bears in Pennsylvania too, but this, this wasn't. This was not a bear. It took a second or two, you know, and this clearing is you know, I know, archery, hunt and all that stuff, so you know, I was ten at the time, but I still knew distance and all that stuff. I grew you know, I grew up pretty fast at a young age. And I would say it would be no more than eighty yards in between tree line, but like I said, it maybe four or five.

8:10 And and it was into the next tree line and gone. This country roads, you're not doing fifty five sixty, you're doing twenty five thirty. So you know, it's not like we're flying past it like I had time to. Like I saw it, and I don't know why to this day, I wish my mom was alive because, like, I don't know why I didn't say anything to her. I didn't say anything to my dad, nobody. It just kind of kept it to myself. Have you ever seen anything in drawing form or anything that maybe like of a big foot or even of prehistoric animals that even looked similar to what you said all that day?

9:05 Uh? I don't do a whole lot of research, you know. I listened to this show, and I listened to a couple other podcasts and stuff like that, but I really don't. I really haven't dug in and really tried to figure out, you know, what it's, what it is or what it was, and you know, high school and all that stuff throughout my my my years. I never really dug in and did any type of research to figure out what it was. You know, Like I said, I didn't open up until you know, twelve years ago too, you know, just to kind of let it out. Not that it not that it like bothers me. It's just weird.

9:55 It's it's it's very unique. It'd be interesting to see if anyone listening has similar sightings of something around the Beaver County Pennsylvania area. Right, Yeah, there's a lot of well there was you know, I haven't been back home in a while, but there's I mean there was woods for miles. You know, it's it's pretty thick. You know, you got some dark wooded areas, and you know some of the places that I hunted back home, I always had like a I was never not never afraid of the dark or anything like that, but getting to those dark, dark, thick woods, I've had a couple you know, feelings like maybe I should just leave, you know, and which I did. You know, I didn't.

10:47 I didn't like think that you know, a big foot or anything was out to get me. I just didn't feel right, you know, I just felt. Uneasy this sighting. This was it around the early nineties, right. Yeah, it would have been, yeah, because I'm forty four now, so yeah, it was. It was definitely it was our early early nineties. In growing up in the western Pennsylvania area. Did you have any other things happen out there that are out of the ordinary or was it when you moved to Oregon other things start happening.

11:28 So the one thing that I so back home, you can shift, you can spotlight deer. You can spot for deer and stuff like that. A day before rifle season and me and my buddy Bill, we would we would go out and just spotlight a few of the fields and you know, just check things out. And the one that it could have been a bear. But I don't know how their eyes shine. I know, dear they to you know, deer they shine. You know a certain color cat that's et cetera, et cetera. But like this thing, we called it bow winkle because whatever it was, it was huge and it was like red eyes, but it was you know, it was only red with the light on it. You know, it wasn't like glowing when we took the light off. But it was something big in the back backfield. But other than that, nothing until I moved to Oregon, Oregon, that was that was that was pretty crazy. I wasnt actually I contacted him before before you know, I came on onto the show. One of my buddies, a old coworker, you know, showing me a his hunt hunting spot over by the Fort Rock area, and that was archery, archery hunting, and you know, as a hunter, you know, I like to be in the woods an hour, two hours before daybreak and we drove out there. You know, it was dark, we're walking and we're walking to a guzzler, and it was it was

13:05 it was a deep, guttural howl like a wolf. And there there are some wolves around here. There's a packing sisters and La Pine and stuff like that. But but following that, it sounded like a bunch of just you know, kind of higher pitch coyote sounds. And it lasted. Gosh, it felt like it lasted forever, but it probably lasted five eight minutes, and we kind of just stopped. I had a can of bear spray, which would have been useless, it would have just been seasoning for us. But you know, I had my bone. You know, my buddy Brandon, he didn't have anything. He was just along for the ride.

13:52 And it just stopped all of a sudden, So I was not going to go over there and investigate anything. We just relined it to the to the guzzler and just set up and they they daylight came and it was just a weird. It's just a weird feeling. It was. It was on flat, flat ground like all around us, you know, and a lot of the ranchers their cows it would be out there, but you know, didn't see any of them. But it was just the eerie silence, and I don't know, it almost sounded like a big boulder hitting a like a ponderosa tree, but we were on like level ground, so it didn't make any sense.

14:44 It wasn't a tree snapping. It wasn't you know, it wasn't like a if it was a tree rolling down the hill and hitting another one. I don't know what pushed it, but it just it was loud. Big for society would be right back after these messages. H It was a loud sud and but there was no sounds like there was no birds, There was no it was like no life.

15:26 But when that happened, we kind of looked at each other and I was just like in just mouth, like what was that? And he just shrugged his shoulders like you know, he didn't know. And we stayed there for another hour or so and nothing else happened. But I wanted to see because like the road that we came in came in on at the fourth road, I wanted to check to see if there was any other hunters or or anybody back there because it was a dead end and it's mostly manzanita. Once get further back in, and you know, there's no trails going off to the left or right, you know, not even for a quad you know, maybe game trail. That's the whitest, whitest trail you know, you'd see going down to that dead end and there was absolutely no one back there. And it just that was another another one that just didn't make any sense. Made me feel uneasy. Uh. It was just weird.

16:33 And I had mentioned it to one of my buddies. He's he's one of those guys like, you know, if it's not in front of him, he doesn't he doesn't really he doesn't believe it, you know, it has to be black and white. And I had mentioned that experience with him, and it was weird because he's like minus minus all the sounds and stuff like that. But he was hunting the company butte a week later and as a crow flies from where I was and where he was, I would say it would be like seven eight miles maybe a little bit more, but in the same area he experienced that big like sud on a tree and silence, and he thought that was quite weird as well. And this dude he was a Marsok marine raider back in the early two thousands, you know, and he couldn't explain it.

17:41 It was weird to him. I don't know what he'd think, you know, I don't know what his thoughts are on it. I never really got into, you know, a huge discussion about it. You know, he just kind of said, you know, I experienced this, it was weird. He packed up and actually got out of there. Well, that's extremely interesting. That area is weird too. I've heard some some things about the area. It's in the same area as something called hole in the Ground Hole on the ground. Yeah, if you're familiar with that.

18:25 I'm not, like I've heard about it. I really haven't really dug into it. It's it's pretty cool. I haven't been there, but it's a large like a volcanic explosion crater you can drive into. It's massive. In that area. There's you know, there's some big trees, but there's a lot of a lot of lodge pole and it's super thick and in that certain area where he was hunting, because I've hunted it as well. But again, it's just weird back there. It's just a weird feeling. Even driving in my truck going down there, it's like, yeah, it's it's almost uneasy.

19:10 It's in people, I think need to understand where when you hear Oregon, you think of like rush woods being way out. This is more in the desert area. Correct, mm hm, this high desert. Ye, It's it's almost on almost on the boundary. It's close to like the part where the I don't know, it doesn't feel like it's too far into the desert, but maybe maybe the map is deceiving, but it doesn't look like it's that far away from uh forested. Area, right, Yeah, I mean to the east of us, we have the bad lands, but like you know here in town. You know, I'm in Bend. You know, there's we have all the high lakes in skuff like that, and they're they're all mostly wooded, and there's woods around there.

20:04 I do a lot of mushroom picking and stuff like that, and there's there's still a good amount of woods. But you know, you you kind of go out a little bit and you've got more man's anita than trees. You go out further than it's it's like it's desert. It's sagebrush and moon dust. We call it. It would be interesting to talk to people in that area to see if that's the thing that's that's normally experienced. That that sound that you described. Yeah, it was. It was weird, and I actually did look look into it because like the sound, because that that first one was so deep that I've heard wolves howling and it'll raise it raises your hairs on your arms.

20:59 But the other high pitched ones, they sounded like coyotes. So I started getting into it, like, or are there wolves coyote hybrids? You know? Why is you know, why why is one wolf hanging out with a bunch of coyotes. I was just getting in getting into a little bit of research on that and because it just it didn't make sense to me. But that was that was that experience over that way. But the same same person that I told the story to, and he was on company. But my buddy we went to Davis It's called Davis Lake and it's it's fly fishing only, but we went there just to camp out and it was just an you know, day trip or night trip overnight, and we were sitting, you know, sitting around the fire and actually I just brought this up to him last week to remind him. But we're sitting there and we have a piecent view of the lake. If anybody knows where Davis Lake is, if you're coming in from La Pine and you're headed towards like Crescent Lake or whatever, you know, you're stealing the scenic Highway. Gave us like a big cheer. Right, and if you make the first right, there's a couple of camp spots right there and it's next to like a lava field. Well, you can see the lake and it's it's it's dark out, I don't know, maybe ten ten o'clock at night, just around the campfire, and we

22:34 saw a when we first thought it was a boat and then rolled that out and then you know, maybe a headlamp. Well it was a light blue orb the light, but it was coming from like the middle of the lake. But it wasn't going up and down like somebody walking or somebody in a boat. It was eddie the whole way. And then it hit shoreline, just guessing because it's you know, we got trees there, and then it kind of disappeared maybe you know, ten feet from the lake into the tree line, and you know, we were just like what what was that, you know, it's just interesting. But that night I had a three quarter ton suburban and you know, I was just camping and in the back of it was with my dog. And that night I had such a vivid dream. But the dream literally had everything that was around me, like all the trees, that the little road coming in the fire pit. It was everything, but there was it was like it was like five sasquatch. No, you know, kind of like the normal looking sasquatch, but

24:05 they were like it looked like they were they were staggered, so it looked like they were kind of like hunting or whatever. This is in my dream, and they one of them walked up to my truck like this is my dream. Was like I was a fly in the air watching us down and it looked into my my suburban and at me, and that's when I woke up. But it was so it was so real to me in my dream or whatever it was, because it had like the rocks that you know, there was a couple of big boulders. Everything was in that dream. So I don't know if that blue orb correlated with what I had dreamt, but it was it kind of well, it didn't kind of It messed me up for you know, a few days or a week just trying to figure out what you know, it was, was that real or you know, it was just it was different.

25:24 Did did the sask question that you saw in the dream? Did they have ask? Is a weird question? Did they have any certain type of hairstyle? So they were all a they were all like not a dark brown, but kind of like a light brown. They were all the same color. The sizes varied. There was a couple, there was two smaller ones, and then the other ones were if I had to guess, maybe I don't know, eight nine feet in height. There were walking on to you know, their their legs, but it was like it was like they were hunting because they were moving slow. In this thought it was, and they were kind of just like dispersed from each other. They're like, you know, maybe ten twelve, fifteen feet away from each other, and they're kind of walking in the same direction, kind of like you know, if you had you know, a military force out you know, coming into a target.

26:38 Wow, that's that's verally interesting. It was weird. And and again like I wasn't thinking, ah blue orb, you know, Bigfoot, you know that was not in my head when I went to bed that night. I've heard multiple stories with you know that orb going into you know, maybe seeing a sasquatch or something like that. But yeah, that was that was pretty wild. Do you remember anything particularly about like what the top tops of the head looked like.

27:21 The tops of the head, it was your your basic description, you know, it was kind of coned out, not super pointy. But and then the face, the face was a little lighter brown than the hair, but your your typical sasquatch. Look, I didn't look like anything. Didn't look like what I saw when I was a kid. This this one looked like you know, they all look like you know, Patty, but they were like a light brown, not a dark but just a light brown. But the nose, the wide nose, the wide the big mouth, hair all around it, you know, no hair on the face. Wow.

28:16 That the hair on the top of the head. Was it arranged in any certain way. It just seemed like they were all kind of not like real napped up. But you know, it wasn't like freshly brushed or anything like that. You know it was and it wasn't like super long. The fat I guess maybe like I don't know, eight inches long, but you know they didn't get just they didn't see a hairstylist beforehand. So you're saying the hair on top of the head was around eight inches long. Yeah, yeah, and like it wasn't like, you know, like they brushed it or anything like that, not like dreadlocked or not, you know, nothing like that. But it wasn't like, you know, perfectly flowing.

29:08 I guess Okay, that's really interesting. Sorry, there's a question. I was trying to ask you, but if I asked this it it would lead you. I kind of led you, but that I'll just come out with it. So I've talked to individuals more west of that area, kind of by Waldo Lake Wilderness, and you're at lake. I've actually talked to individuals where they've been chased out of the Spirit Lake area by sasquatch that looked like they had dreadlocks. Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages?

29:58 Okay? Interesting? Right, Well, so if you go to if you're from Davis Lake, if you're at Davis Lake, like Waldo Lake isn't very far. It's not far at all, actually, because if you keep going down that road, and you make it right, you go past, you'll go past Crescent Lake Odell and then off to the right you'll have Waldo So that I mean, and that's I believe that's all woods in between. Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, it definitely looks like it's all all woods. Is that an area where you've ever gone out to and explored before? I've been. I've been to Waldo Lake. Actually I found my first bar toothed mushroom. So if you passed Waldo Lake and then you make a make a right and you kind of go up up the mountain and there's a there used to be a cabin there. A few years ago a fire went through there, so I'm sure it's gone. That fire went all the way to the back of cultures like but I have been back in there there. Like I said, there was like a little cabin.

31:08 I think it was like for snow mybillas or skiers or cross country people to kind of maybe get sheltered. But I have been back in there. I never experienced I never experienced anything, you know, I was I was, you know, exploring and you know, mushroom mushroom hunting. And I have a lot of miles in these woods without you know, I haven't. I haven't experienced anything since Davis Lake.

31:49 Gotch. I always I'll get uneasy feelings when I'm I'm like in some of the my my because I go Morell hunting and some of those areas, it's it's it's in there. I I go where people don't want to go. But there's sometimes and I visit this place year after year after year, and sometimes I'll just I'll get a feeling like I shouldn't be there, but I no, this is this is actually give away my spot. It's it's it's like on black Beaute. So that's like in the Sisters area. I mean, I'll cut it out. I don't want your mushroom spot.

32:29 Oh no, no, no, everybody every I'm not the only one out there. I go a little bit further than everybody else in Iowa. Yeah, we get into the morels out here in Iowa too. And you're very protective of your Morel spot. Yeah, exactly, like you. You don't even want to share it to your best friend, you know. Yeah. Now I'm out there by myself of the time. You know, I actually leave my dog at home when I when I hit those spots because I just, you know, something happens to me, I would feel horrible. You know, she was kind of, you know, out there out there by herself.

33:13 I don't know, I'm a I'm a dog person. Have you ever experienced like being out there looking for mushrooms and everything just gets extremely quiet? Quiet? Yeah, yep. And that's and that's those are the experiences that I'll get every once in a while, and it's like it's something in me is like, Okay, you need to pack up and go and and I do, but then I can return a day or two later, you know, four days, I know, I typically hit those spots every four days, four to five days, because you know, if you morrel hunt, you know, you know, if you got a spot you pick, you normally hit it again and you know, three, four or five days after and you'll get more, you know, you get and I'll I'll come back and then everything seems fine. All the birds are chirping, and you you know, the deer deer there, you know, every once in a while run across I've had.

34:11 I mean, he has to be a big bore in the area that I pick at, because his piles of crap are huge. And his prints are or like one and a half times my hand, and I've scared him out he went crashing through the man's anita. But yeah, I definitely get those feelings, but I have not seen or heard, you know, tree knocks or any type of noises. I just get this just a feeling like I need to leave, and I do. I experienced that for the first time because I've I've hiked plenty in New England. I grew up out there.

34:55 But then the first time I experienced the woods getting extremely col to the point where it was almost oppressively quiet, and you couldn't hear yourself think, and You're like, it feels wrong for it to be so quiet right now. It's very weird to describe unless you experience it. It is I have like tendinitis or whatever it's called. I can hear my ears ringing. It's so quiet. It's it's weird. I was gonna say, the first time I experienced that was out in the woods outside of Oakridge, which is just further west.

35:35 Yeah, I heard there was a few I think there was a lady on there talking about Oakredge And I haven't really explored in that area as far as like mushroom picking or anything like that. But I've driven through Oakridge I don't know how many times, but I don't I don't know her name. I can't remember the episode or anything like that. But it's interesting, you know, the Oakrage setting, or I think there was a couple of them. There's I'll tell you there's multiple in there, multiple that are not public. That is just me talking to people on like Facebook messenger, right, And those are the wild ones.

36:23 I can imagine. So if you uns out there, i'd be careful. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I don't ever there's people out there that want to see them. After seeing that one when I was a kid, whatever it was, I know it wasn't any animal that's alive on us earth. You know, like like what I've seen, I don't want to ever see one in the woods. It's just something that I I I don't want to see. You hear stories you know about you know, good ones and not so good ones, and it's like, I don't know. With my luck, I'm gonna run and run. I'm gonna run across the one that has you know, the bad day or something like that. That's why, like I said, That's why I when I go to those areas on Black Beaute, I leave my dog at home because I I've had those super quiet you know, it gets super quiet where I can hear my ears ringing and get that feeling like I should not be there, and I pack up and go, you know, but I don't know. I I know i'd probably be frozen, just and terror, and I

37:54 don't know if that's because of you know, the first one I saw when I was ten years old, just seeing how big it was, like it was huge. Granted I was you know, I was ten, but I grew up around cattle forms they're a big animals as well. But this thing was this song was huge. I'm not anywhere close to their size, at least the one that I had saw. People will usually say something to the effect of like it makes you reevaluate your place and everything.

38:38 I think, yeah, that because I've ran I've ran it through my head. What if I did see one and that, you know, I think I'd be paralyzed just in fear, and I'm sure everything would be running through my head. H It's it just it makes you wonder, especially you get out in that area. There's so much weirdness out there in Oregon, and I think you could you could live a whole lifetime out there and not really go into many areas and still experience a lifetime of weirdness.

39:20 It's just it's a really special place. It's it's wild. Yeah. And my old my old boss, he was telling me when he was he was around my age, whenever I saw my first one, he was over by Tumlo Falls. So this is probably in the sixties, mid sixties, and he saw one up by Tumblo Falls, and you know, he he pretty much had this. You know, it was just like it was. It was. It was huge, and it was kind of crowded down looking at him and his family. But I think there was a couple of sightings over in that area. I don't know about now.

40:10 I mean, I know Chevlyn Park that's pretty close. I heard there, you know, there was a couple of sightings there as well. But yeah, Oregon is definitely it's a cool it's a cool place. I love it here. But there's there's some weirdness going on, not only in Portland, right. Yeah, that's kind of like that's the normal weirdness. If you want the real weirdness. Yeah, you got to get out outside of there and you just go out in the national forest. Be careful though. Oh yeah, yeah, exactly. Wow, Joe, I just wanted to say thank you for coming on the show, for sharing what you've experienced so far in your life. Please keep us in mind if if you ever run into any other weird things out there in the Pacific Northwest.

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