Oct. 22, 2024

Dreams of the Sasquatch!

Join us on the Bigfoot Society podcast as host Jeremiah Byron talks to Joe, who shares his mysterious experiences in the woods of Western Pennsylvania and Central Oregon. During his childhood in Beaver County, Pennsylvania, Joe encountered a strange...

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Season 1

Join us on the Bigfoot Society podcast as host Jeremiah Byron talks to Joe, who shares his mysterious experiences in the woods of Western Pennsylvania and Central Oregon. During his childhood in Beaver County, Pennsylvania, Joe encountered a strange creature resembling a large, hair-covered animal with a pronounced snout. Later, after moving to Oregon, he experienced odd sounds in the forests around Fort Rock and witnessed a strange orb of light near Davis Lake. These eerie encounters left Joe questioning the world around him and are discussed in detail, providing a compelling glimpse into the enigmatic phenomena lurking within Oregon's wilderness.

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All right, Big forst Society. You've got the privilege of

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talking to Joe. Joe's an individual who reached out to

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me from central Oregon. He's got some really interesting things

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that have happened along the years that he'll be sharing.

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But Joe, it's a pleasure to have you on the show.

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How's it going, man, it's going pretty good.

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Thanks, thanks for having me on.

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Absolutely, you're you were just telling me before the show

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started that you know, this is probably one of the

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really first times that you've shared what you've experienced over

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the years. And this takes place among different states. But

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you know, I'm going to go ahead and pass things

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right over to you and just feel free to take

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us back to where we need to be for that

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that first encounter that you had in your life.

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Yeah. So I grew up in the western Pennsylvania. It's

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it's Beaver County. It's just a small you know, a

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lot of farms. I grew up hunting, trapping stuff like that.

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But yeah, my mom was driving us home. It was

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just my mother and me and I was in the

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passenger rear seat of the car, and just I always

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always look out the window and I enjoy nature. And

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we were just driving down an old old road, country road,

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and I there's kind of like a power line, so

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the power line and there's two there's two woodlines and

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the power line in between the power line. It was

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kept kept up with you know, the farmer cut the

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grass and stuff, so it was like short. But anyway,

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I was just looking out the window and all of

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a sudden I caught it, caught a glimpse of something

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running on all fours and the only thing that I

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could think of, like right off, right off the top

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of my head, was like a rhino because the thing

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was giant. It was gray, and it had long hair,

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but it was it was on all fours when it

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was running, and it only took maybe four or five

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I don't know if you want to call them galops

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or whatever, but to make it to the other woodline.

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But I remember seeing the face and it wasn't quite

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like you know, you'd see like a typical sasquatch or

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you know, like a dog man or you know you

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hear you know, they have the pointed snouts. It did

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have like a pronounced snout, and no, it didn't have

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any hair, you know, on its face. But I was,

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you know, all around it. But that was that was

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my first time ever seeing something. I had no clue

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what it was because I mean, you know, I've been

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to the Pittsburgh Zoo and I grew up around cattle farms.

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I hunted, I trapped, I knew all the animals that

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were around us, and I just I couldn't. I couldn't

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explain it. I couldn't explain it, and like it wasn't

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making any sense. And like I was telling you earlier,

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I don't know why, I didn't even say anything to

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my mom. I was, I don't know, Like I didn't

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say anything until like twelve years probably twelve years ago

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to a lady that I worked with. I just felt

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comfortable because she was, you know, kind of I lost

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my mom a long time ago, but she was kind

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of like, you know, my mom's age, and I kind

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of opened up to her and told her what I

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had saw that day, and it's it's very weird.

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Do you mind if I ask a few questions about

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that first sighting you had?

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Sure?

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Yes, yes, did you see the years at all, you said.

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I didn't see any No, the only thing that stood

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out to me was, well, there are a few things. It

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was huge. The hair was like, you know, like a

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light gray, and it was long. And then the face

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it was it was kind of reminded me like like

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you know, like an Alvino gorilla, that's what you know.

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But the the snout or whatever, the nose or the

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mouth was kind of you know, protruding. Was It wasn't

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real long like you you hear people with dog Man

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and stuff like that, but it was definitely not like

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you know, Patty or anything like that. Oh yeah, and

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I've never I never grew up watching anything like that

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until maybe the Harry Harry and the Henderson's came out.

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You know, that's the only time like I ever saw

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you know, quote unquote bigfoot. You know what it's supposed

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to look like. You know, we didn't have we had

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a black and white TV grown up. You know, there's

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no internet, nothing like that. So it was it just

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baffled me for years. I mean, it wasn't like a

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you know, a bad dream, you know, like I was

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thinking about it all the time. It was you know

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when when it came up. You know, I just I

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still I'm still trying to wrap my head around it.

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M It's it's a really really unique I mean, I

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haven't gotten any reports even even close to the way

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it was acting, or the or the way it looked.

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Were all the legs the same length from what you saw.

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From what I saw the back, the back, you know,

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the back to or slightly longer, but not much. You know,

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we we have bears in Pennsylvania too, but this, this wasn't.

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This was not a bear. It took a second or two,

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you know, and this clearing is you know, I know, archery,

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hunt and all that stuff, so you know, I was

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ten at the time, but I still knew distance and

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all that stuff. I grew you know, I grew up

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pretty fast at a young age. And I would say

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it would be no more than eighty yards in between

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tree line, but like I said, it maybe four or five.

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And and it was into the next tree line and gone.

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This country roads, you're not doing fifty five sixty, you're

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doing twenty five thirty. So you know, it's not like

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we're flying past it like I had time to. Like

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I saw it, and I don't know why to this day,

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I wish my mom was alive because, like, I don't

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know why I didn't say anything to her. I didn't

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say anything to my dad, nobody. It just kind of

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kept it to myself.

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Have you ever seen anything in drawing form or anything

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that maybe like of a big foot or even of

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prehistoric animals that even looked similar to what you said

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all that day?

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Uh? I don't do a whole lot of research, you know.

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I listened to this show, and I listened to a

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couple other podcasts and stuff like that, but I really don't.

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I really haven't dug in and really tried to figure out,

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you know, what it's, what it is or what it was,

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and you know, high school and all that stuff throughout

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my my my years. I never really dug in and

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did any type of research to figure out what it was.

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You know, Like I said, I didn't open up until

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you know, twelve years ago too, you know, just to

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kind of let it out. Not that it not that

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it like bothers me. It's just weird.

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It's it's it's very unique. It'd be interesting to see

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if anyone listening has similar sightings of something around the

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Beaver County Pennsylvania area.

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Right, Yeah, there's a lot of well there was you know,

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I haven't been back home in a while, but there's

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I mean there was woods for miles. You know, it's

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it's pretty thick. You know, you got some dark wooded areas,

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and you know some of the places that I hunted

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back home, I always had like a I was never

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not never afraid of the dark or anything like that,

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but getting to those dark, dark, thick woods, I've had

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a couple you know, feelings like maybe I should just leave,

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you know, and which I did. You know, I didn't.

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I didn't like think that you know, a big foot

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or anything was out to get me. I just didn't

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feel right, you know, I just felt.

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Uneasy this sighting. This was it around the early nineties, right.

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Yeah, it would have been, yeah, because I'm forty four now,

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so yeah, it was. It was definitely it was our

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early early nineties.

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In growing up in the western Pennsylvania area. Did you

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have any other things happen out there that are out

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of the ordinary or was it when you moved to

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Oregon other things start happening.

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So the one thing that I so back home, you

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can shift, you can spotlight deer. You can spot for

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deer and stuff like that. A day before rifle season

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and me and my buddy Bill, we would we would

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go out and just spotlight a few of the fields

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and you know, just check things out. And the one

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that it could have been a bear. But I don't

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know how their eyes shine. I know, dear they to

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you know, deer they shine. You know a certain color

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cat that's et cetera, et cetera. But like this thing,

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we called it bow winkle because whatever it was, it

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was huge and it was like red eyes, but it

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was you know, it was only red with the light

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on it. You know, it wasn't like glowing when we

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took the light off. But it was something big in

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the back backfield. But other than that, nothing until I

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moved to Oregon, Oregon, that was that was that was

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pretty crazy. I wasnt actually I contacted him before before

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you know, I came on onto the show. One of

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my buddies, a old coworker, you know, showing me a

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his hunt hunting spot over by the Fort Rock area,

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and that was archery, archery hunting, and you know, as

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a hunter, you know, I like to be in the

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woods an hour, two hours before daybreak and we drove

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out there. You know, it was dark, we're walking and

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we're walking to a guzzler, and it was it was

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it was a deep, guttural howl like a wolf. And

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there there are some wolves around here. There's a packing

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sisters and La Pine and stuff like that. But but

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following that, it sounded like a bunch of just you know,

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kind of higher pitch coyote sounds. And it lasted. Gosh,

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it felt like it lasted forever, but it probably lasted

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five eight minutes, and we kind of just stopped. I

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had a can of bear spray, which would have been useless,

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it would have just been seasoning for us. But you know,

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I had my bone. You know, my buddy Brandon, he

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didn't have anything. He was just along for the ride.

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And it just stopped all of a sudden, So I

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was not going to go over there and investigate anything.

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We just relined it to the to the guzzler and

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just set up and they they daylight came and it

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was just a weird. It's just a weird feeling. It was.

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It was on flat, flat ground like all around us,

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you know, and a lot of the ranchers their cows

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it would be out there, but you know, didn't see

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any of them. But it was just the eerie silence,

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and I don't know, it almost sounded like a big

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boulder hitting a like a ponderosa tree, but we were

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on like level ground, so it didn't make any sense.

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It wasn't a tree snapping. It wasn't you know, it

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wasn't like a if it was a tree rolling down

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the hill and hitting another one. I don't know what

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pushed it, but it just it was loud.

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Big for society would be right back after these messages.

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H It was a loud sud and but there was

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no sounds like there was no birds, There was no

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it was like no life.

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But when that happened, we kind of looked at each

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other and I was just like in just mouth, like

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what was that? And he just shrugged his shoulders like

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you know, he didn't know. And we stayed there for

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another hour or so and nothing else happened. But I

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wanted to see because like the road that we came

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in came in on at the fourth road, I wanted

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to check to see if there was any other hunters

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or or anybody back there because it was a dead

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end and it's mostly manzanita. Once get further back in,

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and you know, there's no trails going off to the

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left or right, you know, not even for a quad

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you know, maybe game trail. That's the whitest, whitest trail

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you know, you'd see going down to that dead end

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and there was absolutely no one back there. And it

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just that was another another one that just didn't make

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any sense. Made me feel uneasy. Uh. It was just weird.

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And I had mentioned it to one of my buddies.

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He's he's one of those guys like, you know, if

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it's not in front of him, he doesn't he doesn't

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really he doesn't believe it, you know, it has to

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be black and white. And I had mentioned that experience

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with him, and it was weird because he's like minus

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minus all the sounds and stuff like that. But he

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was hunting the company butte a week later and as

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a crow flies from where I was and where he was,

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I would say it would be like seven eight miles

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maybe a little bit more, but in the same area

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he experienced that big like sud on a tree and silence,

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and he thought that was quite weird as well. And

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this dude he was a Marsok marine raider back in

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the early two thousands, you know, and he couldn't explain it.

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It was weird to him. I don't know what he'd think,

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you know, I don't know what his thoughts are on it.

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I never really got into, you know, a huge discussion

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about it. You know, he just kind of said, you know,

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I experienced this, it was weird. He packed up and

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actually got out of there.

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Well, that's extremely interesting. That area is weird too. I've

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heard some some things about the area. It's in the

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same area as something called hole in the Ground Hole

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on the ground. Yeah, if you're familiar with that.

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I'm not, like I've heard about it. I really haven't

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really dug into it.

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It's it's pretty cool. I haven't been there, but it's

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a large like a volcanic explosion crater you can drive into.

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It's massive.

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In that area. There's you know, there's some big trees,

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but there's a lot of a lot of lodge pole

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and it's super thick and in that certain area where

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he was hunting, because I've hunted it as well. But again,

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it's just weird back there. It's just a weird feeling.

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Even driving in my truck going down there, it's like, yeah,

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it's it's almost uneasy.

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It's in people, I think need to understand where when

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you hear Oregon, you think of like rush woods being

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way out. This is more in the desert area.

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Correct, mm hm, this high desert.

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Ye, It's it's almost on almost on the boundary. It's

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close to like the part where the I don't know,

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it doesn't feel like it's too far into the desert,

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but maybe maybe the map is deceiving, but it doesn't

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look like it's that far away from uh forested.

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Area, right, Yeah, I mean to the east of us,

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we have the bad lands, but like you know here

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in town. You know, I'm in Bend. You know, there's

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we have all the high lakes in skuff like that,

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and they're they're all mostly wooded, and there's woods around there.

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I do a lot of mushroom picking and stuff like that,

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and there's there's still a good amount of woods. But

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you know, you you kind of go out a little

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bit and you've got more man's anita than trees. You

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go out further than it's it's like it's desert. It's

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sagebrush and moon dust. We call it.

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It would be interesting to talk to people in that

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area to see if that's the thing that's that's normally experienced.

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That that sound that you described.

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Yeah, it was. It was weird, and I actually did

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look look into it because like the sound, because that

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that first one was so deep that I've heard wolves

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howling and it'll raise it raises your hairs on your arms.

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But the other high pitched ones, they sounded like coyotes.

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So I started getting into it, like, or are there

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wolves coyote hybrids? You know? Why is you know, why

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why is one wolf hanging out with a bunch of coyotes.

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I was just getting in getting into a little bit

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of research on that and because it just it didn't

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make sense to me. But that was that was that

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experience over that way. But the same same person that

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I told the story to, and he was on company.

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But my buddy we went to Davis It's called Davis

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Lake and it's it's fly fishing only, but we went

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there just to camp out and it was just an

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you know, day trip or night trip overnight, and we

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were sitting, you know, sitting around the fire and actually

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I just brought this up to him last week to

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remind him. But we're sitting there and we have a

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piecent view of the lake. If anybody knows where Davis

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Lake is, if you're coming in from La Pine and

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you're headed towards like Crescent Lake or whatever, you know,

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you're stealing the scenic Highway. Gave us like a big cheer. Right,

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and if you make the first right, there's a couple

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of camp spots right there and it's next to like

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a lava field. Well, you can see the lake and

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it's it's it's dark out, I don't know, maybe ten

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ten o'clock at night, just around the campfire, and we

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saw a when we first thought it was a boat

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and then rolled that out and then you know, maybe

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a headlamp. Well it was a light blue orb the light,

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but it was coming from like the middle of the lake.

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But it wasn't going up and down like somebody walking

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or somebody in a boat. It was eddie the whole way.

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And then it hit shoreline, just guessing because it's you know,

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we got trees there, and then it kind of disappeared

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maybe you know, ten feet from the lake into the

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tree line, and you know, we were just like what

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what was that, you know, it's just interesting. But that

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night I had a three quarter ton suburban and you know,

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I was just camping and in the back of it

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was with my dog. And that night I had such

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a vivid dream. But the dream literally had everything that

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was around me, like all the trees, that the little

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road coming in the fire pit. It was everything, but

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there was it was like it was like five sasquatch. No,

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you know, kind of like the normal looking sasquatch, but

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they were like it looked like they were they were staggered,

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so it looked like they were kind of like hunting

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or whatever. This is in my dream, and they one

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of them walked up to my truck like this is

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my dream. Was like I was a fly in the

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air watching us down and it looked into my my

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suburban and at me, and that's when I woke up.

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But it was so it was so real to me

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in my dream or whatever it was, because it had

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like the rocks that you know, there was a couple

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of big boulders. Everything was in that dream. So I

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don't know if that blue orb correlated with what I

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had dreamt, but it was it kind of well, it

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didn't kind of It messed me up for you know,

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a few days or a week just trying to figure

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out what you know, it was, was that real or

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you know, it was just it was different.

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Did did the sask question that you saw in the dream?

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Did they have ask? Is a weird question? Did they

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have any certain type of hairstyle?

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So they were all a they were all like not

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a dark brown, but kind of like a light brown.

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They were all the same color. The sizes varied. There

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was a couple, there was two smaller ones, and then

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the other ones were if I had to guess, maybe

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I don't know, eight nine feet in height. There were

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walking on to you know, their their legs, but it

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was like it was like they were hunting because they

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were moving slow. In this thought it was, and they

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were kind of just like dispersed from each other. They're like,

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you know, maybe ten twelve, fifteen feet away from each other,

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and they're kind of walking in the same direction, kind

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of like you know, if you had you know, a

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military force out you know, coming into a target.

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Wow, that's that's verally interesting.

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It was weird. And and again like I wasn't thinking,

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ah blue orb, you know, Bigfoot, you know that was

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not in my head when I went to bed that night.

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I've heard multiple stories with you know that orb going

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into you know, maybe seeing a sasquatch or something like that.

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But yeah, that was that was pretty wild.

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Do you remember anything particularly about like what the top

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tops of the head looked like.

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The tops of the head, it was your your basic description,

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you know, it was kind of coned out, not super pointy.

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But and then the face, the face was a little

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lighter brown than the hair, but your your typical sasquatch. Look,

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I didn't look like anything. Didn't look like what I

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saw when I was a kid. This this one looked

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like you know, they all look like you know, Patty,

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but they were like a light brown, not a dark

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but just a light brown. But the nose, the wide nose,

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the wide the big mouth, hair all around it, you know,

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no hair on the face. Wow.

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That the hair on the top of the head. Was

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it arranged in any certain way.

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It just seemed like they were all kind of not

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like real napped up. But you know, it wasn't like

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freshly brushed or anything like that. You know it was

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and it wasn't like super long. The fat I guess

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maybe like I don't know, eight inches long, but you

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know they didn't get just they didn't see a hairstylist beforehand.

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So you're saying the hair on top of the head

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was around eight inches long.

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Yeah, yeah, and like it wasn't like, you know, like

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they brushed it or anything like that, not like dreadlocked

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or not, you know, nothing like that. But it wasn't like,

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you know, perfectly flowing.

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I guess Okay, that's really interesting. Sorry, there's a question.

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I was trying to ask you, but if I asked

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this it it would lead you. I kind of led you,

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but that I'll just come out with it. So I've

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talked to individuals more west of that area, kind of

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by Waldo Lake Wilderness, and you're at lake. I've actually

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talked to individuals where they've been chased out of the

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Spirit Lake area by sasquatch that looked like they had dreadlocks.

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Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages?

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Okay?

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Interesting?

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Right, Well, so if you go to if you're from

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Davis Lake, if you're at Davis Lake, like Waldo Lake

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isn't very far. It's not far at all, actually, because

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if you keep going down that road, and you make

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it right, you go past, you'll go past Crescent Lake

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Odell and then off to the right you'll have Waldo

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So that I mean, and that's I believe that's all

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woods in between.

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Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, it definitely looks like it's

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all all woods. Is that an area where you've ever

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gone out to and explored before?

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I've been. I've been to Waldo Lake. Actually I found

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my first bar toothed mushroom. So if you passed Waldo

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Lake and then you make a make a right and

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you kind of go up up the mountain and there's

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a there used to be a cabin there. A few

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years ago a fire went through there, so I'm sure

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it's gone. That fire went all the way to the

455
00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:05.160
back of cultures like but I have been back in

456
00:31:05.279 --> 00:31:08.200
there there. Like I said, there was like a little cabin.

457
00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:12.920
I think it was like for snow mybillas or skiers

458
00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:16.359
or cross country people to kind of maybe get sheltered.

459
00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:24.400
But I have been back in there. I never experienced

460
00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:27.559
I never experienced anything, you know, I was I was,

461
00:31:28.440 --> 00:31:34.839
you know, exploring and you know, mushroom mushroom hunting. And

462
00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:39.759
I have a lot of miles in these woods without

463
00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:47.839
you know, I haven't. I haven't experienced anything since Davis Lake.

464
00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:49.599
Gotch.

465
00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:54.440
I always I'll get uneasy feelings when I'm I'm like

466
00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:58.680
in some of the my my because I go Morell

467
00:31:58.839 --> 00:32:01.960
hunting and some of those areas, it's it's it's in there.

468
00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:05.200
I I go where people don't want to go. But

469
00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:09.160
there's sometimes and I visit this place year after year

470
00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:12.440
after year, and sometimes I'll just I'll get a feeling

471
00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:17.559
like I shouldn't be there, but I no, this is

472
00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:20.759
this is actually give away my spot. It's it's it's

473
00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:26.000
like on black Beaute. So that's like in the Sisters area.

474
00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:28.160
I mean, I'll cut it out. I don't want your

475
00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:29.000
mushroom spot.

476
00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:33.880
Oh no, no, no, everybody every I'm not the only

477
00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:37.039
one out there. I go a little bit further than

478
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:39.039
everybody else in Iowa.

479
00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:42.680
Yeah, we get into the morels out here in Iowa too.

480
00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:46.480
And you're very protective of your Morel spot.

481
00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:51.200
Yeah, exactly, like you. You don't even want to share

482
00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:54.960
it to your best friend, you know. Yeah. Now I'm

483
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:59.680
out there by myself of the time. You know, I

484
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:04.119
actually leave my dog at home when I when I

485
00:33:04.200 --> 00:33:07.720
hit those spots because I just, you know, something happens

486
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:10.680
to me, I would feel horrible. You know, she was

487
00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:13.680
kind of, you know, out there out there by herself.

488
00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:15.880
I don't know, I'm a I'm a dog person.

489
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:18.240
Have you ever experienced like being out there looking for

490
00:33:18.359 --> 00:33:21.440
mushrooms and everything just gets extremely quiet?

491
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:26.440
Quiet? Yeah, yep. And that's and that's those are the

492
00:33:26.480 --> 00:33:28.839
experiences that I'll get every once in a while, and

493
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:33.680
it's like it's something in me is like, Okay, you

494
00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:35.759
need to pack up and go and and I do,

495
00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:39.759
but then I can return a day or two later,

496
00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:43.000
you know, four days, I know, I typically hit those

497
00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:47.160
spots every four days, four to five days, because you know,

498
00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:50.039
if you morrel hunt, you know, you know, if you

499
00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:53.640
got a spot you pick, you normally hit it again

500
00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:56.680
and you know, three, four or five days after and

501
00:33:56.759 --> 00:34:00.160
you'll get more, you know, you get and I'll I'll

502
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:03.680
come back and then everything seems fine. All the birds

503
00:34:03.680 --> 00:34:06.960
are chirping, and you you know, the deer deer there,

504
00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:10.239
you know, every once in a while run across I've had.

505
00:34:11.320 --> 00:34:14.320
I mean, he has to be a big bore in

506
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:17.559
the area that I pick at, because his piles of

507
00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:23.039
crap are huge. And his prints are or like one

508
00:34:23.079 --> 00:34:26.000
and a half times my hand, and I've scared him

509
00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:29.639
out he went crashing through the man's anita. But yeah,

510
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:34.360
I definitely get those feelings, but I have not seen

511
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:40.239
or heard, you know, tree knocks or any type of noises.

512
00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:43.639
I just get this just a feeling like I need

513
00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:45.440
to leave, and I do.

514
00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:51.440
I experienced that for the first time because I've I've

515
00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:55.000
hiked plenty in New England. I grew up out there.

516
00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:59.239
But then the first time I experienced the woods getting

517
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:04.280
extremely col to the point where it was almost oppressively quiet,

518
00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:06.880
and you couldn't hear yourself think, and You're like, it

519
00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:09.440
feels wrong for it to be so quiet right now.

520
00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:12.920
It's very weird to describe unless you experience it.

521
00:35:12.920 --> 00:35:17.159
It is I have like tendinitis or whatever it's called.

522
00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:23.159
I can hear my ears ringing. It's so quiet. It's

523
00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:24.360
it's weird.

524
00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:27.199
I was gonna say, the first time I experienced that

525
00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:29.960
was out in the woods outside of Oakridge, which is

526
00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:31.239
just further west.

527
00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:39.079
Yeah, I heard there was a few I think there

528
00:35:39.159 --> 00:35:42.360
was a lady on there talking about Oakredge And I

529
00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:45.880
haven't really explored in that area as far as like

530
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:50.079
mushroom picking or anything like that. But I've driven through

531
00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:55.920
Oakridge I don't know how many times, but I don't

532
00:35:56.000 --> 00:35:59.000
I don't know her name. I can't remember the episode

533
00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:01.639
or anything like that. But it's interesting, you know, the

534
00:36:01.679 --> 00:36:06.079
Oakrage setting, or I think there was a couple of them.

535
00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:10.800
There's I'll tell you there's multiple in there, multiple that

536
00:36:11.079 --> 00:36:15.440
are not public. That is just me talking to people

537
00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:22.800
on like Facebook messenger, right, And those are the wild ones.

538
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:24.079
I can imagine.

539
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:28.480
So if you uns out there, i'd be careful.

540
00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:37.039
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I don't ever there's people

541
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:39.880
out there that want to see them. After seeing that

542
00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:42.360
one when I was a kid, whatever it was, I

543
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:48.159
know it wasn't any animal that's alive on us earth.

544
00:36:48.360 --> 00:36:51.840
You know, like like what I've seen, I don't want

545
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:54.800
to ever see one in the woods. It's just something

546
00:36:54.840 --> 00:37:01.079
that I I I don't want to see. You hear

547
00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:04.159
stories you know about you know, good ones and not

548
00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:07.599
so good ones, and it's like, I don't know. With

549
00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:10.199
my luck, I'm gonna run and run. I'm gonna run

550
00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:12.960
across the one that has you know, the bad day

551
00:37:13.079 --> 00:37:16.000
or something like that. That's why, like I said, That's

552
00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:22.280
why I when I go to those areas on Black Beaute,

553
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:27.280
I leave my dog at home because I I've had

554
00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:31.519
those super quiet you know, it gets super quiet where

555
00:37:31.559 --> 00:37:34.519
I can hear my ears ringing and get that feeling

556
00:37:34.599 --> 00:37:37.800
like I should not be there, and I pack up

557
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:45.119
and go, you know, but I don't know. I I

558
00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:54.679
know i'd probably be frozen, just and terror, and I

559
00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:57.400
don't know if that's because of you know, the first

560
00:37:57.440 --> 00:38:01.559
one I saw when I was ten years old, just

561
00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:09.159
seeing how big it was, like it was huge. Granted

562
00:38:09.159 --> 00:38:12.320
I was you know, I was ten, but I grew

563
00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:16.480
up around cattle forms they're a big animals as well.

564
00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:20.159
But this thing was this song was huge. I'm not

565
00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:24.360
anywhere close to their size, at least the one that

566
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:25.519
I had saw.

567
00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:30.960
People will usually say something to the effect of like

568
00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:36.519
it makes you reevaluate your place and everything.

569
00:38:38.679 --> 00:38:43.639
I think, yeah, that because I've ran I've ran it

570
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:48.840
through my head. What if I did see one and that,

571
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:52.559
you know, I think I'd be paralyzed just in fear,

572
00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:56.039
and I'm sure everything would be running through my head.

573
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:03.840
H It's it just it makes you wonder, especially you

574
00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:08.000
get out in that area. There's so much weirdness out

575
00:39:08.039 --> 00:39:10.760
there in Oregon, and I think you could you could

576
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:15.880
live a whole lifetime out there and not really go

577
00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:19.760
into many areas and still experience a lifetime of weirdness.

578
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:21.840
It's just it's a really special place.

579
00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:26.440
It's it's wild. Yeah. And my old my old boss,

580
00:39:26.840 --> 00:39:31.519
he was telling me when he was he was around

581
00:39:31.519 --> 00:39:33.880
my age, whenever I saw my first one, he was

582
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:39.480
over by Tumlo Falls. So this is probably in the sixties,

583
00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:47.400
mid sixties, and he saw one up by Tumblo Falls,

584
00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:54.039
and you know, he he pretty much had this. You know,

585
00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:58.519
it was just like it was. It was. It was huge,

586
00:39:57.840 --> 00:40:02.360
and it was kind of crowded down looking at him

587
00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:05.840
and his family. But I think there was a couple

588
00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:09.159
of sightings over in that area. I don't know about now.

589
00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:14.599
I mean, I know Chevlyn Park that's pretty close. I

590
00:40:14.920 --> 00:40:17.320
heard there, you know, there was a couple of sightings

591
00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:22.039
there as well. But yeah, Oregon is definitely it's a

592
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:24.159
cool it's a cool place. I love it here. But

593
00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:29.119
there's there's some weirdness going on, not only in Portland, right.

594
00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:32.760
Yeah, that's kind of like that's the normal weirdness. If

595
00:40:32.760 --> 00:40:34.840
you want the real weirdness. Yeah, you got to get

596
00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:37.360
out outside of there and you just go out in

597
00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:39.960
the national forest. Be careful though.

598
00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:42.239
Oh yeah, yeah, exactly.

599
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:51.159
Wow, Joe, I just wanted to say thank you for

600
00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:54.199
coming on the show, for sharing what you've experienced so

601
00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:56.880
far in your life. Please keep us in mind if

602
00:40:57.039 --> 00:40:59.840
if you ever run into any other weird things out

603
00:40:59.840 --> 00:41:01.320
there in the Pacific Northwest.

604
00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:05.880
Hello, and thanks thanks for having me on. Pretty pretty

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nervous sharing sharing everything, you know, That's that's what i'd experience.

606
00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:16.440
It's just something I still don't understand, I guess.

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