Dec. 29, 2024

East Texas Sasquatch around the Cabin | Texas | Colorado | Archives

East Texas Sasquatch around the Cabin | Texas | Colorado | Archives

In this captivating episode of Bigfoot Society, host Jeremiah Byron talks with two individuals who share their remarkable experiences with potential Bigfoot encounters. Chris from East Texas recounts the mysterious sounds, tree knocks, and howls he...

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Season 1

In this captivating episode of Bigfoot Society, host Jeremiah Byron talks with two individuals who share their remarkable experiences with potential Bigfoot encounters. Chris from East Texas recounts the mysterious sounds, tree knocks, and howls he has heard on his property near Avenger while building a cabin. He also describes strange odors, unusual footprints, and the disappearance of wildlife. In another segment, Dom, a lobster fisherman from Maine, reveals his chilling encounters in Colorado. Dom describes a terrifying roar near Grand Junction and an eerie breathing presence at his home in Mesa. Together, these stories provide a compelling glimpse into the possible existence of Bigfoot in diverse locations across the U.S.

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before this episode as it does have adult themes in it,

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and as a parent, I want to make sure that

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if you are listening to this with your child and

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you don't want them to have the knowledge that they

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call yourselves, but I just want to make sure that

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parents were aware of what is coming up in this episode.

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Thank you, all right, Big Faciety, We've got the privilege

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of talking to a gentleman who contacted me from East Texas.

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His name is Chris. How's it going tonight, Chris?

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Pretty good? How are you doing?

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Oh?

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I'm doing great, Chris. I can't even talk about stuff

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that's coming up for twenty twenty four. Man, it's going

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to be awesome. I got stuff going on, but I

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am beyond excited to talk to you tonight. We've been

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trying to think get this set up for a little

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bit of time, and it does sound very interesting. Without

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any further ado, I'm just going to pass it right

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over to you, Chris, and feel free to share what

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you are experiencing in your area awesome.

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I bought this piece of property outside of Avenger about

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it's gone a four years ago. That's got a little

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spring bed creek through the middle of it with some

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pretty good sized spring pools. Obviously all the wildlife, deers,

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the big cats, everything else we've got out there. These

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are old creeks, so they've been coming here for years

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and years. A whole bunch of wildlife out there. And

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of course I'm from East Texas, so I've lived here

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in East Texas. I've hunted these woods my entire life.

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I'm fifty three now, so I know all but everything

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we have out here. But since I've gotten this piece

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of property, I've never seen it. But I have heard

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so many different things. I can't tell you what they are.

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For example, one thing about this property that I wanted

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to do. I wanted to when I got out there

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to build the cabin. Wanted to do everything by hand,

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old school, so that it's what I tell people. I

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want to look like a Norman rock Wall picture when

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they come down there. So that being said, I set

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me in ten up out there and everything else. So

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while I'm working, I've got a place to be. So

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a few nights of the week I would stay out

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there while I'm clearing brush and things like this. And

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that's when I started noticing something not normal. And what

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would happen would be the first thing I would hear

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was being out there in East Texas like that. It's

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so quiet. You can drop a Q tip on the

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floor and hear it. It's so quiet at night out there.

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And I would hear a tree knock and I've never

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heard these anywhere in my life, and it was three knocks.

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You can tell it's wood on the side of a tree.

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It's unmistakable, that's what it is. And for the first

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night I heard it, and I heard it, I thought

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the world did I just hear And then a few

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hours later I heard it again. I didn't think too

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much of it, to be honest, And a few nights

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went by, and then I stayed out there again, and

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sure enough, every night that I would stay out there,

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I would hear that, and I never could pinpoint what

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it would be. I would try to shine the light out.

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I'd try to go out there the next day and

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look at it things like this. I cannot figure out

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what it was. This rock's along for I don't know

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a month or two, and one night I'm out there

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and I hear a house. Now, when I first bought

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this property, there was only another house at the end

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of this county road. And we're in the thick woods

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out there now, and they're off the grid. I'm not

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really off the grid, but they're way up by themselves

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and stuff, so there's nothing else around. But it's really

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good hunting land still. I have tons of deer and

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everything else coming through there. Big cats, bobcats, you name it,

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all coming up in there. For that spring pool, and

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so this one particular night I heard how. And I

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know we have all the coyodes obviously. I know we

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have the small red wolves, and we even have some

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gray loafers that a lot of people don't think we

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have down here, which is a wolf. But I know

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for a fact we do because I've seen it, and

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I know what they sound like. I know what the

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big cats sound like when they screaming. I know what

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the bobcat sounds like. I know what the screench owls,

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all that everything sounds like. This was a very deep, long,

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very vocal, and loud howl with almost a growl sound

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in it, and I've never heard that in my life.

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I listened to it, and I just when it started,

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I sat straight up and then I listened. I'll listen

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until it quit. Then I listened for anything else. I

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don't hear anything else. Well, that was new. So this

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rocked on about five months while I'm building the cabin.

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Different times i'd be out there at night, I'd hear

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these things. And I've heard that how probably four times

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now now over the period of almost four years that

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I live out here. We used to have a very

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large hog population out there, but the county of the

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state one or two had spent some money to try

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to get the population down, so they hired some hunters

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to come in and take the hogs out, and they're down.

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They took about eighty percent of the night, I would

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say of that general area. So since the hog population dropped,

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I've noticed two things. I've not heard the howl anymore.

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I've not heard the tree knock anymore. And I've not

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been seeing the big cats anymore either. Obviously they were

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coming up using that as foods or whatever. This is now,

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during all this time, you could hear At times, we

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could be four or five of us sitting out on

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the porch of the cabin. I forgot it deal. We

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can be sitting out there just having a good time talking,

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listening to music or whatever, and you can hear something

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walking close by, and we'll turn everything off and listen.

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You can definitely hear and it's a large bipedal and

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like a human walking. And then when we all try

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to get real quieted, it get quiet, and we'd talk

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a little bit and still listen, and you can hear

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it walk around with it. You can shine the light

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all you want all that long I don't care what

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kind of light you you just never can see anything.

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And this happens on a pre record basis. I'm out

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about working in different areas of the country all the time.

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My son and friends or stuff will go up to

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the cabin and things like that, and everybody that's ever

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been there has heard this. Matter of fact, I've got

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people that refuse to go back to the cabin now

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because they hear that walking around out there and they

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can't figure out what it is. My son is in

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there one night and he's got the little fire going,

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and he's sitting in the little living room there talking

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on the phone to his girlfriend and actually has her

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on speakerphone, and then all of a sudden, you hear

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something really loud. He said, something really loud slapped the

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back corner of the cabin, real loud, and it's loud

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that when his girlfriend heard it, she said, what was that.

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He said, I don't know. Something hit the cabin. So

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then he thanks, wait a minute, Dad's here trying to

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pull a trick on me or something. So he calls me, hey,

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where are you at. I was in I think Wisconsin

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at the time or Minnesota at the time, and he says, definitely,

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wasn't you. Something hits the back corner of the house.

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He goes out over the gun, the light and everything.

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He never can see anything. He can hear a bipedal

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walk after a little while, but not right away. He

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didn't hear it, so he never could pinpoint what it was.

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So then we got to thinking, Okay, we've got somebody

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sneaking down here, because it's a new place. Somebody's coming

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down here, probably didn't know you were here. Maybe they're

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gonna try to break in still gun or whatever. So

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we started really watering for that kind of thing. And

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a human I don't know how to say this politely,

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but they're not real smart if they're a crook to

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begin with. So they're gonna walk through sand, dirt, mud, something,

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They're gonna leave tracks, they're gonna leave the trace of

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some kind. Well, we never got a trace of any kind.

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And to get into that property the way it is,

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because I left it very wooded except for just to

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write the near area around it, just enough of a

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firebreak around and things like that, you would have to go.

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If you're gonna try to come in there at night,

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there's no way you're gonna walk through these woods without

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just getting tangled up in bines and bryers and everything else,

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and you're gonna have a light and you're gonna get

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tore up and hurt. There is no evidence of anybody

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coming through brush or anything around the surroundings of it.

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And then every other way you have to come in,

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there's area you will cross sand or mud or something.

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We have no footprints or anything out there, so it's

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not a person coming down there messing with us. We

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rolled that out pretty quick. And besides that, nothing was

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ever locked up and nothing ever stolen. We've got steel

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chainsaws and things like that setting out unlocked, and if

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somebody would have been coming down there, then they would

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have picked that up and run off with it. Nothing

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come up missing, so it's not a person coming down there.

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And then at times you can be sitting out there

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and this happened once. The last time, about I'd say

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about three months ago, my son and I were sitting

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on the porch talking. We both came up here about

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the same time. We were sitting out there just talking.

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It just got good and dark and almost a rotten

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egg wet dogs smells you've ever smelled all of a

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sudden drifts through there and I'm looking at my son,

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what in the world is this? And then within a

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minute that smell just drifts on off. There's no wind blowing.

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So it wasn't like there's people near me now that

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have bought property near me now, and that it's not

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like that there was their septic system or something to

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use got the smell of that or something, because there's

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no wind at all.

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Now.

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This has happened several times. And one other thing, I

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will say that since the people bought the sixty acres

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across the road from me, they cleared out a lot

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of the timber and made a lot of pasture out there.

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He's got a few cows and a horse and stuff

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like that, and he keeps out there. And since that

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has happened and the hog population down, I've not been

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hearing how But I tell you one thing that was

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very interesting that happened. My grandson comes out there and stuff.

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I'm really keep an eye on that creek, make sure

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there's no snakes and things like that. If I know

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he's coming out there, I'll check it all out and

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things like that real good. And this particular day, I

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find a pretty good size, probably about a threur and

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a half with watermoksking. And so I shot it and

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killed it, and I was working, so I just took

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a raak and tossed it up on the far bank

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for right now while I was finishing the work I

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was doing. And I got done with it and then

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went back over there. And of course it's dead shot.

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It with twelve games, has no head on. It can't

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crawl around this five or six hours later. And the

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reason I'm telling you that is because so later when

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I tell you what fixing to happen, you'll know that

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snake didn't move on the song, just from its muscles.

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I went back over there, and I took the rake

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and I pick it up, and I carrid to the

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back of the prop. And there's a place back there

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where the hogs would get down and wallow in the

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mud in the summertime and things like that to get

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them weft to cool them off and things like that,

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and then they would scrape on the tree to get

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that stuff cleaned off of them. So I tossed that

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snake down in there close to where that mud pit

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was that since they hadn't been in there in a

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little bit it was dry, so I tossed it over

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in there. Now that thing landed upside down in a

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muddy area, just like a little one foot on one

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foot little money patch. Thanged in and then pretty much

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the leaves it all falling around here there and everywhere.

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The next day, my son and I said, let's go

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back there and see if the hogs came back and

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ate that snake. So we come back there and the

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snake is not there. So I all the hogs got it,

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and we get to look around, but there's no evidences anywhere,

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and then we see the snake. It's three feet from

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where we dropped it, and you can still see the

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indention in the mud where it laid upside down in

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the mud. Now it's about three feet away. It's setting

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right side up on the little ledge, almost like it

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crawled there. But I shot it with a twelve gage

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with buckshot, and it laid in one spot for about

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six hours before I took it back there and threw

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it down, So that wasn't muscle contraction or anything caused

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the snake met. The interesting thing was in that mud

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close to where that snake lay, you can still see

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the scales on the top side of the snake go

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upside down, you can see it looked like a barefoot print.

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In other words, like if you didn't have your shoes on,

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you step in the mud, your heel and part of

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the left side or the right side of your foot,

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either with its left foot or right foot, you can

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see that invention in the mud. Of course, the toe

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area was overleafs, so you couldn't see any of the

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toe marks or anything. And I asked my son, we're

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the only to there, so you come back here earlier

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or something of that shoes on. No, I ain't been

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out here about my shoes on. For no reason. We

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got a heelprint in there, and it's not really large,

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but it's definitely a heelprint in half of a foot

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because we thought what any world, I don't even know

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what to think, but I guess over the entire period

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of time, we've probably had a total of twenty run

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ins with whatever's making these sounds. As far as hearing

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the footsteps, the walking, the smells, say the how I've

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heard four times, and each time I hear it, I

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stopped that still and I listened long and hard at

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that howl and because I first time I heard it,

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I thought, let me try to figure out where it

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came from. And then after I realized, this is something

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I don't know what is, and I started really trying

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to listen to it so I know it if I

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hear it again. And so anyway, it just this, I've

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never seen at all whatever's making this sound. But we

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definitely have something in those woods that different. That's not

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I was fishing to say, not native these Texas, but

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it could very well be native these Texes. I don't know.

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But and this is one thing here that's most people,

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have you ever seen a wolf in the wild? And

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most of everybody you ask will tell you, yeah, I

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know wolves exist, but no, I've never seen one. Never

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got a wolf on a trail camp either. You get

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caddies on a trail camp all the time, but you

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never get a wolf on a trail camp hardly ever,

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because they're very keen and very smart. So my thing

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is that there's a wolves out there that I know

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for a factor there, and you can talk to Texas

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Park from Wildlife Vision and they'll tell you for a

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fact they're there as well. And you've never seen them.

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Doesn't mean they're not there, They're still there. So we

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have something that's here that's very familiar with the woods.

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And I know, I don't know what to say. I

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don't know what to call it as a thing. My

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little properties called bigfoot springs because we got all them

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springs out there there. And then my grandson when he

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comes up there, he tells me, Paul, I'm on, I'm

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gonna set big foot traps. So I don't know if

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he's ever set a big foot trapping on, but if

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I've ever disappeared, y'all, come look out there. I might

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be in a big foot trap somewhere that he's made.

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But there's something out there. And here's the thing about it.

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I've been up in Colorado before, and I've encountered Grizzly

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Bear up there for Brown Bear brother at a pretty

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close distance. And before I ever saw it, my senses

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knew it was there. The hair on the back of

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my neck stood up, and my adrenaline starts pumping. And

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I've never seen it, never heard it that I knew

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it was there, and I knew it was in trouble.

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Big for society, who would be right back after these messages?

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I knew it needed to get out of it.

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There.

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My dad spent the last twenty three years of his

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life in Lincoln, Maine, up on the mountaintop. So I

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got up there one time and I encountered the bull

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moose and the same thing before I ever saw that

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bull moose and knew he was there, same thing, My

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senses knew he was there. I knew I was in trouble.

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But whatever this is, I don't feel threatened in any

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kind of way. There's no worry of my hair on

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the back of my neck. Doum stand up. There's no

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worry am I going to be attacked or anything like that.

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I've got a bigger fear of the hogs than whatever

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whatever this is. I don't know. It's pretty interesting. I'd

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like to know what it is. I've put out game cans,

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and I've caught everything under the sun on my game cans,

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everything else except whatever this is. I walked out the

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back door of that cabin going to the smoker, which

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is fifteen feet away from the back door, twenty feet

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away from the back door, and just on the other

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side of the smoker stands one of them on my panthers,

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and she's standing there looking straight at me broadside, twitching

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her tail, and I knew not to get near her.

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I knew there would be danger with her if I

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got near her, but I wasn't too worried about her.

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But whatever this is, it's definitely different. I don't see

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it to be a harm harmful to me in any

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kind of way, Unlike everybody else, I'd like to know

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what it is.

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You're really having some interesting things going on that property.

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You'd sent me a write up of what you're experiencing earlier,

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and I just want to make sure. Are there any

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other things that you've been hearing that are out of

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the ordinary besides howls.

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I've heard the howls. I've heard the tree knocks. And

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you know how when a deer bleats that little sound

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it makes. I've heard something like that. And I do

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have several those that bring their farms down every year,

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and so I know what they sound like when they're

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communicator back and forth doing what they do in the buck,

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even when he makes the sound he makes. But there

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is another sound that I heard one day that I

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put off as probably squirrels because I couldn't I didn't

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hear it long enough to be able to get a

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good enough, you know, lock on it to really tell

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what it is. But it's almost like a I don't

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even know how to describe it. Have you ever heard

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chipmunks chattering or squirrel chattering and stuff and the sounds

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that they make. It's almost like that it was a

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night time and that was pretty.

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Odd as well, like chipmunk chatter. I'm sure it sounds

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like you're familiar a little bit with things in the

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bigfoot community, or maybe you're not. I guess I could

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be assuming that, But have you ever heard the Sierras

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sounds at all?

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So what sounds? I don't guess. So now we do

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have Jefferson not far away from us, It's probably a

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twenty mile drive from where I live that they have

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the it's some kind of a big foot well I

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don't mean, I'm trying to think of what they call it,

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some kind of big foot to gathering where they talk

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about it, trade research things.

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I would be really interested if you were to look

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up the recording of the Sierra Sounds and just so

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that I'm curious if it's similar to what you heard.

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So the Sierra Sounds were recording made by Ron Moorehead

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in the nineteen seventies out in California, and allegedly is

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recording of Bigfoot talking back and forth with each other

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and it almost sounds. Another name for it is samurai chatter.

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Once you hear it, you'll be like, this is probably

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the weirdest thing I've ever heard in my life. If

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you could after this, I would be really curious what

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your thoughts are when you hear that one.

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Yeah, I'll definitely look it up and listen to it.

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How loud is that? When you would hear that weird

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the noises? Was it really loud or the sound of

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a normal chipping?

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The chatter?

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How that chatter?

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The only one time I heard it, it was I

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would say it was within fifty feet of me, so

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it was. It wasn't like it was a screech loud.

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It was more of just a low, normal kind of

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a tone that whatever's making into normal tone it would make,

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not like it was distressed or anything like that. But

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since I've heard that, I've not heard it all since.

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But now the howl. The first time I heard the howl, now,

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that was before both the people had one neighbor that

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bought property across the road and one neighbor that bought

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properly on the same side of my road that backs

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up to my fence line. Now before they got there,

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i'd say the first two hols were i would say

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within one hundred yards or less, extremely loud, close enough

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that I went out the next day both times and

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looked around to see if I find any kind of

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evidence of any kind see what it was. I found nothing.

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Now the second two times i've heard it, it's been

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further down in the river bottom the creek bottoms down there, because,

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like I say, they cleared a lot of property, both

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of them did, and put homes there and stuff like that.

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Whatever it is has moved further back down in the

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creek bottoms, and since the hog population has go under down,

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like since they've hunted them down, I haven't heard it since.

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I bet once you clear out that that food source.

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When you heard the howls, sometimes people can describe when

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they hear something like a howl, They'll see I could

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almost tell what the size of the creature was that

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was making the sound. Did you get a feel as

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to how big this creature may have been that was

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making a howl sound? Or it was hard to gauge that.

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Oh no, you could gauge that pretty good, because have

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you ever been in the woods and heard a bear

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growl or or not how but growl or basically roar

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in the woods. Have you ever heard that?

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No?

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Okay, if you've ever heard that, anybody that's ever heard that,

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you can tell. Or if you've ever heard a panther

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or a big cat of any kind a scream at you,

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you can tell the difference in the size of the

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pantom size of the bear just by it. And I

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would say, whatever's making this howl would probably be bigger

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than a good sized brown or grizzly bear. That would

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just be a guest. I don't know, but just listening

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to it, it's got a lot of it's got a

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lot of force behind it. It's pretty serious whatever it is.

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Sure, it's probably similar to like when you're at the

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zoo and you hear the lion roar and you're like, Okay,

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that's that creature's a lot bigger than the otter.

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It's a pretty bad guy over there.

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Yeah, yeah, I can I know what that's like. Oh,

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that's wild. So you've mentioned that your neighbors were clearing

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some property clearing some wood out. Have you ever talked

455
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to your neighbors to ask them if they've ever experienced

456
00:22:39.359 --> 00:22:41.920
anything weird or noticed anything out of the ordinary.

457
00:22:42.480 --> 00:22:44.960
They've both, at different times come to me and asked

458
00:22:45.039 --> 00:22:48.839
me what it was the last two hous that I've heard,

459
00:22:49.279 --> 00:22:51.480
and I'm I'm in and out all the time, that

460
00:22:51.519 --> 00:22:53.279
it could be going on some more that I don't

461
00:22:53.279 --> 00:22:55.480
know right now. I'm down south of Houston right now,

462
00:22:55.519 --> 00:22:57.400
so I'm not up at the cabin. They could be

463
00:22:57.440 --> 00:23:01.200
happening more often than I know. But at both times,

464
00:23:01.240 --> 00:23:03.720
they've both, at different times come to me and ask me,

465
00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:06.240
have you ever heard something sound strange? And I know

466
00:23:06.279 --> 00:23:07.920
what they're getting at, and I'd be like, what are

467
00:23:07.960 --> 00:23:10.440
you talking about? And said, now we heard this, how

468
00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:13.279
what is that? Is that like a big wolf or something.

469
00:23:13.680 --> 00:23:15.720
They've heard it and they can't figure out what it

470
00:23:15.799 --> 00:23:18.559
is either. Matter of fact, Anthony, he has a lot

471
00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:20.759
of guns and stuff. He likes hunting things like that,

472
00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:24.839
and it disturred him pretty good one night. Everybody around

473
00:23:24.880 --> 00:23:27.599
there has heard it, but like me, nobody knows what

474
00:23:27.640 --> 00:23:28.759
it is and what's making it.

475
00:23:29.400 --> 00:23:32.640
Going back to the footprint that you saw in the

476
00:23:33.559 --> 00:23:37.480
hog area with the snake fear to remember, do you

477
00:23:37.480 --> 00:23:41.480
remember any dimensions of how long the footprint probably was

478
00:23:41.680 --> 00:23:43.119
or yeah.

479
00:23:43.039 --> 00:23:45.960
We had laid a dollar bill on the ground by it,

480
00:23:46.160 --> 00:23:48.839
and the dollar bill was about the length of the hill.

481
00:23:49.440 --> 00:23:52.640
Was the dollar bill, So it was least the length

482
00:23:52.720 --> 00:23:55.480
of two maybe two and a half dollars bills placed

483
00:23:55.559 --> 00:23:58.599
Indian Just based off of how the hill looks, based

484
00:23:58.599 --> 00:24:00.960
off how my heel looks, that would be a pretty

485
00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:03.319
good guath of how big it was. But if you

486
00:24:03.359 --> 00:24:05.559
look at where the hill was and the way it was,

487
00:24:05.680 --> 00:24:07.680
if you walked up and you squatted down to pick

488
00:24:07.720 --> 00:24:11.000
something up and put it somewhere, it really looks like

489
00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:14.240
something squatted down right there and picked it up and

490
00:24:14.559 --> 00:24:17.759
set it up on the ledge where it was like

491
00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:20.079
it looked at it and set it up there. But

492
00:24:20.160 --> 00:24:22.279
I don't know, that's just yess. I couldn't tell you

493
00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:24.319
because I didn't have my cameras up to the game

494
00:24:24.359 --> 00:24:27.039
gins up that night, so I don't know. And I

495
00:24:27.079 --> 00:24:29.359
do know we have honey bearers in that area because

496
00:24:29.720 --> 00:24:32.839
just north of me, oh what is about fifty miles

497
00:24:32.920 --> 00:24:35.519
up around the Clarksville area. Things like that up in

498
00:24:35.599 --> 00:24:38.960
northeast Texas, there you have a very large population of

499
00:24:39.039 --> 00:24:42.200
little small black bears and honey bears there, and we

500
00:24:42.319 --> 00:24:46.359
do have them migrating down. Matter of fact, over on

501
00:24:46.359 --> 00:24:49.039
the Lake of the Pines. One of the stores out

502
00:24:49.079 --> 00:24:51.359
there had an issue with trash being torn out of

503
00:24:51.359 --> 00:24:53.880
their dumpster, so they put a camera to figure out

504
00:24:53.920 --> 00:24:56.440
what's getting trash out of the dumpster, and they've got

505
00:24:56.480 --> 00:24:58.440
some really good video one of the little black bears

506
00:24:58.440 --> 00:25:00.440
going in there pulling a bag out the open, trying

507
00:25:00.480 --> 00:25:02.279
to find something to eat in it. So I know

508
00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:04.920
we have him through my ear because where he's at

509
00:25:05.079 --> 00:25:08.359
where that was taken south of where my property is,

510
00:25:09.119 --> 00:25:11.200
and then they're from a little bit further north of me,

511
00:25:11.359 --> 00:25:14.279
so I know they're coming through there. And then my

512
00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:16.160
son and I talked about that, and I told you

513
00:25:16.200 --> 00:25:17.960
to think it was the backfoot of a black bear,

514
00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:20.799
but you look at one of the largest black bears

515
00:25:20.799 --> 00:25:24.359
that we have in Texas, engaged that the largest back

516
00:25:24.440 --> 00:25:27.720
foot based on that dollar bill laying by the hill

517
00:25:27.759 --> 00:25:31.119
that we took the picture of his whole back foot

518
00:25:31.319 --> 00:25:34.000
is the size of the hill of whatever this was

519
00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:37.240
of the black bear. So we ruled out pretty quickly

520
00:25:37.279 --> 00:25:38.799
was the black bear and that's some kind of way

521
00:25:38.799 --> 00:25:41.720
a Kodiak bearer down down here or something, which I

522
00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:43.680
don't think that case. We'd have a lot of cattle

523
00:25:43.720 --> 00:25:45.519
coming up missing or right.

524
00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:49.000
And combine that with the knox you've been hearing and

525
00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:52.480
the howls, I would say it's probably not a bear

526
00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:55.880
that you're experiencing on your property for sure. Have you

527
00:25:55.960 --> 00:25:59.720
ever put out any audio recorders around your property?

528
00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:04.160
No, I haven't, but I've thought about several times, you know,

529
00:26:04.319 --> 00:26:06.480
talking to people in the area and seeing if I could,

530
00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:08.720
you know, go back on the properties and follow the

531
00:26:09.200 --> 00:26:11.440
creek bottoms down to the river and stuff like that,

532
00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:13.839
and just you know, see what I can come up

533
00:26:13.880 --> 00:26:16.240
with and things like that. I just you know, work

534
00:26:16.240 --> 00:26:18.480
and everything else. I haven't done it yet, but I

535
00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:20.240
will tell you something that's pretty interesting.

536
00:26:20.720 --> 00:26:20.880
Now.

537
00:26:20.920 --> 00:26:23.319
This is just me assuming, So I don't know for

538
00:26:23.359 --> 00:26:26.599
a fact that you know, I bought men in Duro

539
00:26:26.759 --> 00:26:28.880
motorcycle just to ride the back rooms up there one

540
00:26:28.880 --> 00:26:31.200
of my cabin So it's just real nice. You take

541
00:26:31.240 --> 00:26:33.400
off out me eat and everything. She's so beautiful up there.

542
00:26:33.440 --> 00:26:37.319
And every single time I go out, I see a

543
00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:39.599
guy he's on his four wheeler riding along and he's

544
00:26:39.599 --> 00:26:43.160
got cameras mounted all over his handlebars, and it goes

545
00:26:43.200 --> 00:26:44.880
out and sometimes I go down there there in my

546
00:26:44.880 --> 00:26:47.440
truck or something going somewhere. Every evening you see that

547
00:26:47.519 --> 00:26:51.400
man riding with the camera's on there, And I've wondered

548
00:26:51.519 --> 00:26:55.599
several times if he's seen or heard something and he's

549
00:26:55.720 --> 00:26:57.599
riding around looking to see if he can see or

550
00:26:57.640 --> 00:27:00.880
hear something again, because I've never see anybody people that

551
00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:03.960
are like the millionaires. They're doing their flips and racing

552
00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:05.720
and they're doing all this kind of crazy stuff, and

553
00:27:05.720 --> 00:27:08.640
they got GoPros on, but this guy's got six of

554
00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:12.920
them mounted across his handlebarsh aimed in every direction. And

555
00:27:13.079 --> 00:27:14.839
I wanted to stop him and talk to him and

556
00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:17.200
see what's going on, but I just left it alone.

557
00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:19.119
And I just always thought, I bet he's trying to

558
00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:20.480
figure out what's making that noise.

559
00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:23.559
That's a lot to have hooked up to your bike.

560
00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:26.960
You're seeing six cameras all exactly, unless he's like a

561
00:27:27.079 --> 00:27:29.240
YouTube guy. But either way, I'm not going to tell

562
00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:31.119
you what to do. Might be a fun conversation if

563
00:27:31.119 --> 00:27:35.519
you run into him again, exactly. Oh man, it's wild.

564
00:27:35.880 --> 00:27:39.640
Do you have you heard anything going on recently from

565
00:27:39.640 --> 00:27:41.240
the Jefferson area.

566
00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:44.319
Or no, I've not heard anything there. We go out

567
00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:46.400
to Cattle Lake all the time because we like Cattos

568
00:27:46.440 --> 00:27:49.920
so much. And then Jefferson's such a neat, little older

569
00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:52.519
town with all the antique shops and stuff. Tonny likes

570
00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:54.519
going to antique shop somewhere up there and stuff. But

571
00:27:54.640 --> 00:27:57.200
we walked on the little walkway that goes out to

572
00:27:57.279 --> 00:27:59.359
the river back there, and there's a woman that's lived

573
00:27:59.359 --> 00:28:01.480
down there with her children, raise her children, done there

574
00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:04.359
for years and years. And we're talking to her one

575
00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:06.400
day back there about her little cabin and stuff, and

576
00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:09.680
she's never said nothing. I think a lot of people

577
00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:12.359
up there like the fact that they're known as a

578
00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:14.640
bigfoot area or whatever. Matter of fact, they got some

579
00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:17.680
big foot statues they'll foot out and stuff, and that's

580
00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:20.119
just the theme of the little little town or what

581
00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:23.400
is it the Fall Festival or whatever it is they

582
00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:26.119
have up there. I've not been to it yet, but

583
00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:28.440
today talk about it. And you'll hear some of them

584
00:28:28.480 --> 00:28:31.960
old timers talking and they're like, hey, now listen, this

585
00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:34.200
is I don't know what they've seen. I'm not saying

586
00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:36.119
they have or have not seen anything, but you can

587
00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:39.400
tell some of them have definitely seen something if they

588
00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:42.599
know something's there, if they just but I'd be interested

589
00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:44.680
to know. I would really like to take about a

590
00:28:44.680 --> 00:28:47.079
month or so to where I could, because I like

591
00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:49.559
to hunt and camp and fish and everything else, and

592
00:28:49.599 --> 00:28:51.400
it would be really nice to take about a month

593
00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:52.960
or so and just get out in the woods and

594
00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:57.519
just get out there and stay out there and figure

595
00:28:57.519 --> 00:28:58.240
out what's going on.

596
00:28:58.559 --> 00:29:01.920
Oh, I agree, And can you rind me how long

597
00:29:01.960 --> 00:29:06.079
ago did anything happen that you think may be related

598
00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:07.359
to big foot on your property?

599
00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:11.000
About three months ago would have been the god off

600
00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:14.400
a rotten eggs smell and things like that was about

601
00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:16.920
the last thing. And to see that happens a lot

602
00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:21.559
of time out there. But like everything else, you can't

603
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:25.319
see nothing you And of course it's very thick woods.

604
00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:27.880
And if you've ever been out in the woods hunting anywhere,

605
00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:31.240
you can have a mule deer twenty yards from you

606
00:29:31.359 --> 00:29:33.519
and he knows you're looking at and he's standing a

607
00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:35.400
certain way, you'll be looking at him and not seeing.

608
00:29:35.920 --> 00:29:38.799
If there's thick woods, any animal that's in the woods,

609
00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:42.000
all on the record basis knows that high and I

610
00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:45.559
just can't see it. As a matter of fact, let's see,

611
00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:49.079
it was probably let's see, what is this. This is January,

612
00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:53.960
so it was probably back in maybe August, I think

613
00:29:54.599 --> 00:29:58.799
late August, first of September. My son and his girlfriend

614
00:29:58.839 --> 00:30:03.920
were out there and they heard the walking up close

615
00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:04.640
to the house.

616
00:30:05.359 --> 00:30:08.119
Big so society will be right back after these messages.

617
00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:29.160
And I was out in the tool shed and she

618
00:30:29.319 --> 00:30:31.519
hollered out at me out there and said, hey, where

619
00:30:31.599 --> 00:30:33.160
are you at? And I said, I'm in the tool

620
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:35.319
shed standing there looking at the one of waving at her,

621
00:30:36.039 --> 00:30:39.319
and she said, somebody's behind the cabin. So I go

622
00:30:39.440 --> 00:30:41.440
up there. My son is in the back back there,

623
00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:43.559
and he's got the light out. Of course you've got

624
00:30:43.559 --> 00:30:45.880
the gun, and you can hear it walking through the woods.

625
00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:49.200
Had a pretty good clip, but you could not see it.

626
00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:51.039
And then he did, hey, let's head out there, and

627
00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:54.119
let's say no, let's go head out there. Whatever it

628
00:30:54.160 --> 00:30:55.880
is it's heading away from us. Let's just let a

629
00:30:55.920 --> 00:30:57.960
head away from us, leave it alone.

630
00:30:58.599 --> 00:30:59.920
Yeah, probably a wife choice.

631
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:02.759
Yeah, it's scared her a bad enough. And every single

632
00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:07.119
person that's ever been out there has heard something. And

633
00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:09.799
I've had two people swear they'll never come back out

634
00:31:09.799 --> 00:31:13.000
there ever again, just from here to something walking around

635
00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:13.960
and scared them some bad.

636
00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:18.240
Have you ever heard any weird I'm just gonna throw

637
00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:22.440
some weird stuff out. Whistling or the noises that sound

638
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:23.839
like a baby crying.

639
00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:27.319
Now down and not a whistle, but like the baby

640
00:31:27.319 --> 00:31:30.240
crying down in the bottom. Before my neighbor cleared all

641
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:32.319
that property and put his cows out there and stuff.

642
00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:36.039
I've heard that sound a couple of times. Almost sounds

643
00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:40.079
like a woman screaming, like she's definitely afraid or something.

644
00:31:40.359 --> 00:31:43.400
But what that is our big cats, right, soose cats

645
00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:46.519
will sound that way. And I heard that one night,

646
00:31:46.599 --> 00:31:49.160
that scream out there one night, and then just about

647
00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:53.440
a minute later, you heard a pig squalling as hard

648
00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:55.440
as it could, so you know those cats, And then

649
00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:57.680
you heard one of the cats yell pretty loud. So

650
00:31:57.759 --> 00:31:59.359
the cats were down there, honey. Matter of fact, my

651
00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:02.880
neighbor would. That's right on my fence road. They had

652
00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:05.480
a chicken pin and put in, and they had chickens

653
00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:07.319
coming up missing and everything. So and put your roof

654
00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:09.720
over the top of it because at least wire, because

655
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:12.240
we have eagles in there. We have hawks in the

656
00:32:12.279 --> 00:32:14.880
area and Kyo's wils everything else to get in there,

657
00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:17.319
and we do have big cats, so they put the

658
00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:19.599
wire over. They spend a lot of time and money

659
00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:22.720
and done it really nicely. She put out a game

660
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:26.559
cam aimed straight at her chicken pin and put a

661
00:32:26.680 --> 00:32:29.039
light with a censure on it, motion censer on it,

662
00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:33.160
and when it went off, she's got very good pictures

663
00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:35.640
of that big cougar, and I'm thinking it's the male

664
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:37.799
because you can't see well enough to see if it's

665
00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:39.400
male with a female, but you can see how big

666
00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:41.480
they are on this big cougar. He's standing up on

667
00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:44.759
top of the pen looking down through there, like how

668
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:46.880
am I going to get through here? And just behind

669
00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:49.880
it you can see the mama with the two cubs

670
00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:52.519
standing there. All four of them are just as clear

671
00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:55.279
as can be on that picture. So we have very

672
00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:59.759
large cats down there. But the howl is definitely not

673
00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:01.880
the cats, because I've been in these statesas my whole

674
00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:03.839
life and fished on a lot of these different groups

675
00:33:03.839 --> 00:33:05.640
around here, like Big Sandy Creek for one, And if

676
00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:08.160
anybody knows these Texas knows that one very well. And

677
00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:11.480
you hear them cats down there all the time, and

678
00:33:11.519 --> 00:33:12.920
it is definitely not a cat.

679
00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:16.599
Just to just maybe ask you a different way. Nothing

680
00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:21.319
that sounds like a like an actual like a human

681
00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:24.160
baby cry. Nothing weird like that.

682
00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:28.799
Right, No, now you will hear something that sounds kind

683
00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:33.119
of like that. But then again, those big cats will

684
00:33:33.119 --> 00:33:35.839
make sounds like that, and I think the one they

685
00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:38.759
make those sounds, it's when they're honey trying to draw

686
00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:42.039
something closer to them. It's like coyotes will yelp and

687
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:44.160
stuff want will yelp like it's heart or something trying

688
00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:46.480
to draw a pet, a dog or something out to it,

689
00:33:46.960 --> 00:33:50.039
and the others attack it when they have dinner. And

690
00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:53.480
so those cats will do that. And here's another interesting

691
00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:56.279
thing you said out there. Of course, I don't stay

692
00:33:56.279 --> 00:33:57.960
there all the time. I'm just there here and there

693
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:00.640
some time. And one time I stayed out there for

694
00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:05.640
three months straight. And you always know when the large

695
00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:08.159
predators are in the area because I have tons of

696
00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:11.960
squirrels out there, birds at the waw Zoo, we have

697
00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:15.000
rabbits and everything else all over the small game animals,

698
00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:18.159
and when the large predators are in the area, those

699
00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:20.719
things are gone. You won't see a bird. You won't

700
00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:22.840
see a squirrel, you won't see a rabbit, you won't

701
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:25.920
see nothing. And it's just as quiet in the mornings

702
00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:29.039
when you wake up. There's no birds chirping, there's nothing

703
00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:33.360
making a sound when the large predators are not in

704
00:34:33.400 --> 00:34:35.519
the area. And I'm just assuming the big cats are

705
00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:38.440
all the wolves or whatever this is making a sound

706
00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:42.599
when they're in the area. You hear nothing when they're

707
00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:44.719
not in the area. I had a tin roof on

708
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:46.960
the top of that cabin, and it sounds like they're

709
00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:49.840
running a relay race up there, the squirrels, and I

710
00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:51.639
have a potham. Once in a while he'll get on

711
00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:53.440
top of that roof in the daylight and he'll bask

712
00:34:53.519 --> 00:34:57.199
himself in the sun. And raccoons galore. Matter of fact,

713
00:34:57.239 --> 00:35:00.719
we had five eleven baby raccoons this year that out there,

714
00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:03.199
and they're all over the porch, all over the top

715
00:35:03.199 --> 00:35:05.840
of the house, everything else. They're just everywhere out there.

716
00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:08.480
But when the large predators in the area, then things

717
00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:08.880
are come.

718
00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:13.840
Oh, that absolutely makes sense. Speaking of weird noises, have

719
00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:17.039
you ever heard anything that sounds like a whoop, any

720
00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:19.360
whooping type noise in your area?

721
00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:23.280
No, Now, we have several large owls out there, and

722
00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:26.519
I hear the owls, but they are unmistakenly owls, and

723
00:35:26.559 --> 00:35:28.960
it's nothing like that. And of course you hear the

724
00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:33.719
hogs that they make, which was unmistakable that. No, nothing

725
00:35:33.800 --> 00:35:34.199
like that.

726
00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:39.000
Any situations where it's like a really large rock is

727
00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:43.480
thrown towards the cabin or anywhere in your property, like

728
00:35:43.519 --> 00:35:45.519
all of a sudden, a huge rock just gets thrown.

729
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:48.360
Not a rock I've had. I thought a stick hit

730
00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:51.159
the side of the house one night, but then again,

731
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:54.079
I have large trees all around the cabin, and so

732
00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:55.960
I thought that that had fallen out of the tree

733
00:35:56.000 --> 00:35:57.920
and hit it. Didn't know for sure, But no rocks.

734
00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:02.360
And I've got large iron a rock all around up there.

735
00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:04.760
Obviously small too, but never anything like that.

736
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:09.239
What type of trees do you have on your property?

737
00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:12.679
Every one of them? Pine tree, sweet gum, oak, pin oak,

738
00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:14.719
red oak, quad oaks, you game it. We've got them

739
00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:17.840
on dogwood. I've got every tree out there.

740
00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:21.480
Okay, gotcha. So you do have oak and like acorns

741
00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:22.519
and stuff like that.

742
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:26.519
Oh gosh, yeah, tons of it. And see that's another thing.

743
00:36:26.599 --> 00:36:28.400
You hear them fall and hit the roof. For the

744
00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:30.559
side of the house, all up the cabin all the time,

745
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:31.480
or the side of the pool.

746
00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:31.760
Shit.

747
00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:34.960
Yeah, any a lot of different berries on your property.

748
00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:38.679
Too, No, not berries like blackberries, nothing like that. I

749
00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:41.920
don't now. I do have muskadine. We have a lot

750
00:36:41.960 --> 00:36:44.960
of mustard dine out there and they are very sweet

751
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:47.480
when they are out. And that's something I haven't thought about.

752
00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:50.599
Used to as a kid, I remember all the mustadine

753
00:36:50.679 --> 00:36:52.719
vines we had around the old home place, which was

754
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:54.599
right there in Wood County and East Touches, not far

755
00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:58.000
where I am now. They would be laying all over

756
00:36:58.079 --> 00:37:00.639
the ground as they started wrapping and they fall off

757
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:03.880
the tree and stuff I don't ever find, and until

758
00:37:03.880 --> 00:37:05.880
we're just talking about this, I don't ever find anything

759
00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:09.719
on the ground now that could be the raccoons, the possums, squalls.

760
00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:11.400
I mean, there's a million things to be eating that,

761
00:37:11.519 --> 00:37:13.719
but I just don't. I mean I've never found anything

762
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:14.519
on the ground.

763
00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:17.360
And something maybe to keep an eye out for, and

764
00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:21.760
there could on your property. Keep an eye out for

765
00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:24.679
anything that maybe looks like a shelter that's been made,

766
00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:29.239
or any weird trees that are broken a certain way,

767
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:32.159
or anything that looks like it's broken. Well, it's like,

768
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:35.000
how did that get broken by itself? That's crazy.

769
00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:36.400
It's huge all right.

770
00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:39.559
Here you go along the spring. Of course, the creek

771
00:37:39.599 --> 00:37:42.480
goes up high a crakle meander and ass around and

772
00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:44.719
stuff like that. And it's got one part where it

773
00:37:44.760 --> 00:37:47.280
will split off and it makes a little island back

774
00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:49.119
there and goes to the back corner of the property.

775
00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:51.960
Now in the back corner of the property, just across

776
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:54.599
on the farmer side where there's a lot of trees

777
00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:57.559
and a whole lot of thick brush is where we

778
00:37:57.639 --> 00:38:00.000
have a pack of cooes that live in that general area.

779
00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:03.440
They stay out there all the time. Have you ever

780
00:38:03.519 --> 00:38:06.920
seen the way are the Indians in this country us

781
00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:10.880
to go? Obviously they would break a tree over and

782
00:38:11.320 --> 00:38:13.280
break it back up straight, actually not break it, just

783
00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:15.559
more bend it and everything kind of hold it there

784
00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:18.360
where it makes like an s almost absolutely, and then

785
00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:20.440
it will grow that way and that will mark their

786
00:38:20.559 --> 00:38:25.760
way through the territory. I have four of them trees

787
00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:29.639
along that creek that can't be more than about six

788
00:38:29.719 --> 00:38:33.079
inches around, so they're not old enough to be from

789
00:38:33.119 --> 00:38:34.760
back in that area. If it would have been looked

790
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:36.719
like one hundred and two hundred year old tree or something.

791
00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:39.159
I could think, Okay, maybe somebody did that years ago,

792
00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:42.360
but these aren't that old. I would say maximum. Some

793
00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:45.119
of these trees there couldn't be more than twenty years

794
00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:48.280
old that are broke like that. And some of them

795
00:38:48.280 --> 00:38:51.000
of the break is still down low where it was

796
00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:53.960
broke not too terribly long ago. Some of it's fifteen

797
00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:56.000
foot in the air where the tree's already grown and

798
00:38:56.039 --> 00:38:58.679
it's still broke, but it's that high up now, and

799
00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:01.840
it's definitely come straight up up. It'll come straight over

800
00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:03.960
one way or the other and then both go straight

801
00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:08.199
back up. I mean we got probably five four six, Yeah,

802
00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:09.920
it probably got four or six of them out there.

803
00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:12.559
That's really interesting, very interesting.

804
00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:16.280
Everybody comes out there, they're just this is a very

805
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:17.639
interesting place out there.

806
00:39:18.079 --> 00:39:21.440
A while back, you had mentioned where you had the

807
00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:24.800
slap on the outside of the cabin. Did anyone ever

808
00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:27.760
go after that happened. Did they go to the back

809
00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:30.559
of the cabin and look at the wall where they

810
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:32.760
thought it may have been hit to see if you

811
00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:36.079
could see like the handprint or how high or anything

812
00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:36.440
like that.

813
00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:38.440
My son went out there and he had a light

814
00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:41.039
and the gun, obviously, and he looked over. He never

815
00:39:41.079 --> 00:39:43.920
found nothing. And I can track a nat across the

816
00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:48.599
desert in a sandstorm, and I've not found any thing

817
00:39:48.639 --> 00:39:51.480
out there that I can see. For example, when I

818
00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:54.639
was first building the thing, I had the cabin to

819
00:39:54.679 --> 00:39:57.079
where the walls were up, the windows weren't put in yet,

820
00:39:57.119 --> 00:39:58.679
the roof and on it was just ractored. But I

821
00:39:58.679 --> 00:40:01.840
had some plywood on the steir of the walls, and

822
00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:04.000
so I was staying down in the tent that night

823
00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:06.920
that we had about seventeen or nineteen ah a time,

824
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:10.519
pretty large hogs that roamed around there and there herd,

825
00:40:11.079 --> 00:40:14.360
and they were coming through the property. And I went

826
00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:16.920
and got inside the cabin because it's up on steps,

827
00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:19.360
they can't get penny, and I had put my cot

828
00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:20.519
and I laid it in there. I thought, I'm just

829
00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:22.320
gonna stay the night in here. I'll be just fine.

830
00:40:23.239 --> 00:40:28.079
And earlier that next morning I heard the most awful

831
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:30.480
racket on the back porch. I thought, what in the world.

832
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:32.880
I didn't even have the doors on the cabin yet,

833
00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:35.400
so I just had some plywood leaning across the bottom

834
00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:36.760
of it where you could step over to go in

835
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:39.000
and out. Because I didn't want something to just walk

836
00:40:39.079 --> 00:40:41.760
in there. And on the back porch was a little pig.

837
00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:45.199
It couldn't have been two months old, maybe very small,

838
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:48.079
and the coyotes had chased it down there and trying

839
00:40:48.079 --> 00:40:50.840
to get it, and you know how they'll hunt in

840
00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:53.679
different different packs. The ones that were chasing it into

841
00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:56.159
an area where the other ones were coming back at it,

842
00:40:56.559 --> 00:40:58.679
and they were trying to get up on the tall

843
00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:00.800
part of the porch on the front, but there were

844
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:03.119
no stairs built hips, so they couldn't get up there.

845
00:41:03.400 --> 00:41:05.800
So to this date I still got the claw marks

846
00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:07.440
on there where they were trying to claw their way

847
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:10.840
up to get up there, and that's been there for

848
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:14.679
almost four years now. But whatever hit the back of

849
00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:17.760
the cabin left no claw mark, It left no indention

850
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:20.639
of any kind. It didn't leave the muddy of its

851
00:41:20.679 --> 00:41:23.280
hand or foot or anything on the side of cand

852
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:26.039
You just didn't see nothing. But then the interesting thing

853
00:41:26.239 --> 00:41:28.920
was there was no because I keep everything cleared away,

854
00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:30.480
so you know, if we'd get a fire or something,

855
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:33.239
it doesn't get right up against the edge, so there

856
00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:37.119
was no sticks or limbs or anything laying there. Likely

857
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:39.480
limb fell out of tree, hit side of the house

858
00:41:40.280 --> 00:41:42.239
or the side of the cabin there, so there was nothing

859
00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:44.960
back there. But there's so many leaves on the ground too,

860
00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:47.719
there was no chance for a footprint to be left.

861
00:41:48.039 --> 00:41:53.400
Man, that is say some weird stuff, sure, Chris Man,

862
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:57.880
I would say, continue to keep an ear out, keep

863
00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:02.000
an eye out. Man could probably get some cool recordings,

864
00:42:03.039 --> 00:42:06.079
maybe from an audio record. I know you haven't heard

865
00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:09.440
a lot lately, but I just I appreciate you coming

866
00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:12.519
on Chris and chatting about what's going on over at

867
00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:16.719
absolutely Bigfoot Springs. It sounds like a cool place. Please

868
00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:20.320
keep me up to date with if anything else weird

869
00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:24.599
happens here, which I'm pretty sure you will continue to

870
00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:26.400
experience stuff for sure.

871
00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:30.920
Oh yeah, whatever's there is, it's there permanently and I

872
00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:33.599
don't see it going anywhere whatever it is. But BLOCKS say,

873
00:42:33.679 --> 00:42:35.599
I don't think it's got to hurt anything other than

874
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:38.199
to buy whatever species or whatever it is.

875
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:41.920
Yeah, absolutely, Chris, thank you for chatting tonight.

876
00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:44.320
Hew, you no problem. I'm appreciate you hatting me on here.

877
00:42:44.360 --> 00:42:46.039
All right, big for society. You got the privilege of

878
00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:49.840
talking to Dom. He's a lobster fisherman from Maine and

879
00:42:49.880 --> 00:42:53.119
he contacted me about some really interesting things that he

880
00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:57.400
has experienced over the years. But how's it going today, Dom, It's.

881
00:42:57.239 --> 00:42:58.000
Going good, man.

882
00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:00.800
I'm really happy to be able to the story and

883
00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:03.559
glad that everybody else does too. So thanks for giving

884
00:43:03.599 --> 00:43:06.159
it a platform and a voice. We all appreciate it.

885
00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:06.800
Thank you man.

886
00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:09.800
Oh absolutely, It's one of my highlights of the day

887
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:12.920
is able to after the kid goes to bed, I

888
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:16.280
be able to go into the recording studio and call

889
00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:19.599
up another person and get their story out there. So

890
00:43:20.039 --> 00:43:22.719
I appreciate you coming on from Maine.

891
00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:25.639
Very familiar. It's the same way for me. As soon

892
00:43:25.679 --> 00:43:29.440
as the kids asleep, then it's like time to listen

893
00:43:29.480 --> 00:43:31.519
to figure out what stories are out there, see if

894
00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:34.920
there's a new podcast on. And I understand so.

895
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:39.920
Absolutely, Dom, you know what, I'm going to give the

896
00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:43.440
reins over to you, and I'm gonna let you, let

897
00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:44.119
you lead the way.

898
00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:48.400
Dom all right, man, thank you very much. My name

899
00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:51.480
is Dom. I am from Colorado.

900
00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:52.800
But I live in Maine.

901
00:43:53.320 --> 00:43:56.559
I do a little bit of commercial logging. I also

902
00:43:56.880 --> 00:43:59.400
work on lobster boats. I'm always trying to be in

903
00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:04.199
the wilderhead. But I had two experiences when I was

904
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:08.800
living in Colorado that both of them wasn't just me there.

905
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:12.639
I had somebody with me both times that saw the

906
00:44:12.639 --> 00:44:15.159
same thing. And the way people react to it is

907
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:19.320
definitely different. But it was terrifying and it changed the

908
00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:22.400
way I looked at everything, and I see a lot

909
00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:25.719
of similarities hearing other people's stories. But I guess I'll

910
00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:29.480
just start with my introduction to bigfoot into general.

911
00:44:29.719 --> 00:44:32.559
Living in Colorado, working in the woods, and playing around

912
00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:33.079
in the woods.

913
00:44:33.159 --> 00:44:36.039
People always talk about it, or somebody has a story

914
00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:38.840
here or there. And I had people who had passed

915
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:41.519
by theories about what they thought these things were. And

916
00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:46.079
people'd say, maybe they're some interdimensional thing or something that

917
00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:50.719
was an experiment or didn't evolve, or I don't know myself.

918
00:44:50.840 --> 00:44:53.199
And I think most people go through a phase where

919
00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:55.320
they might be interested in those things if they live

920
00:44:55.400 --> 00:45:00.280
in a mountainous rural area. And I just I knew

921
00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:02.239
that there was always big things in the woods, and

922
00:45:02.280 --> 00:45:04.159
I was always out there. I grew up on a

923
00:45:04.280 --> 00:45:07.360
ranch and we were always working with cows, working as horses,

924
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:10.199
and always in the woods and always aware there's a

925
00:45:10.199 --> 00:45:13.000
lot of mountain lions, a lot of bear maybe not

926
00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:13.960
a lot of bear, but.

927
00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:17.280
There's bear and the brown bear can be nasty.

928
00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:19.800
But in the place like Colorado, there's definitely the area

929
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:21.679
for something big like that to live.

930
00:45:21.760 --> 00:45:25.840
And I was surprised was when I really you know,

931
00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:27.760
when I lived in different parts.

932
00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:29.960
Of the state, I think that if I was a bigfoot,

933
00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:32.159
maybe i'd live way up in the mountains. But where

934
00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:36.000
this hat, I guess, way there's some real wild places.

935
00:45:36.119 --> 00:45:38.920
Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages.

936
00:45:54.920 --> 00:45:59.039
But my first experience was when I was living in

937
00:45:59.079 --> 00:45:59.960
Grand Junction.

938
00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:03.559
Color I used to go for drives with friends that

939
00:46:03.639 --> 00:46:06.320
had corvettes or whatever. We used to take one for

940
00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:09.440
one up towards Gateway, and it was a pretty fun

941
00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:13.199
canyon to drive up, and you can check out the

942
00:46:13.239 --> 00:46:18.400
stars because there's big canyon walls, no light pollution from anywhere,

943
00:46:18.480 --> 00:46:21.239
and there's always a spot that we would go check out.

944
00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:23.599
A friend of mine showed me that was next to

945
00:46:23.639 --> 00:46:27.239
the road and it was in a field. We just

946
00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:30.000
hopped the fence across the little creek and we'd walked

947
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:34.480
those field in. It looked like a school desk, only

948
00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:37.840
it was made of concrete. It was a really strange thing.

949
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:40.840
And we always contemplated on what this thing was, but

950
00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:43.840
it became a spot I always liked to check out,

951
00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:47.280
wanted to come back fun. It was just a way

952
00:46:47.360 --> 00:46:50.360
out there place that we could get alone. Nobody was there,

953
00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:52.559
and it was just a cool place to take a

954
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:54.480
breath and take a walk away from society.

955
00:46:55.400 --> 00:46:56.000
And at this.

956
00:46:56.000 --> 00:46:58.039
Time, like I said, I was living in Grand Junction,

957
00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:00.519
and I had a neighbor named Joe, was a friend

958
00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:03.800
of mine, construction worker, and him and his wife got

959
00:47:03.880 --> 00:47:05.800
to fight. So we decid to go for a drive

960
00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:07.519
and I said, I know a cool place to blow

961
00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:08.039
steam off.

962
00:47:08.119 --> 00:47:10.760
Let's go check out this place up the canyon. So

963
00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:13.599
you're ripping up the canyon. And finally got.

964
00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:17.679
To this place and we hopped the fence and made

965
00:47:17.719 --> 00:47:21.719
it through the field and I literally said, here it is.

966
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:24.719
I was about to say, here is this weird, strange desk.

967
00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:26.920
I was saying, it's in the middle of this field.

968
00:47:26.920 --> 00:47:28.039
I don't know what it's for, but.

969
00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:29.440
Sure is a cool spot.

970
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:32.280
Was about to get those words out and I turned

971
00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:38.719
around and this roar came out of nowhere, and I

972
00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:41.320
was walking towards this desk and it was so dark.

973
00:47:41.360 --> 00:47:46.320
He couldn't really see much. And my friend was wearing flipflops.

974
00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:49.079
That is just the thing he did when he got

975
00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:51.320
home from work. He put flip flops on all the time,

976
00:47:51.880 --> 00:47:53.960
so I could hear his flip flops walking behind me.

977
00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:57.719
And this war came out. It just was. It throned

978
00:47:57.800 --> 00:47:59.480
me and I could.

979
00:47:59.239 --> 00:48:02.760
Hear Joe's flip flops running out of the field back

980
00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:06.599
towards the car, and the sound in the war came

981
00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:10.519
at the same time. And I was turning around to

982
00:48:10.519 --> 00:48:13.920
look at this spot and it was right there, just

983
00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:16.920
right in front of me, and I remember enough light

984
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:19.880
to where I could see its head and the shape

985
00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:22.400
of his shoulders and its traps around his neck. I

986
00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:26.800
could see its muscles, and that was standing right next

987
00:48:26.840 --> 00:48:29.639
to me. Like there was all the senses at that point.

988
00:48:29.719 --> 00:48:32.400
You could sense something was there, you could smell it,

989
00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:35.920
you could hear it. And the sound that it made

990
00:48:35.960 --> 00:48:40.280
it sounded to me like like it like we.

991
00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:43.960
Surprised it, or it was angry that we were there.

992
00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:48.519
Because it was such like a shout beyond any range

993
00:48:48.559 --> 00:48:52.039
of any vocal capabilities that I'm a metal head and

994
00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:54.960
I've never heard of anything like that, And I just

995
00:48:56.159 --> 00:48:59.119
as soon as I was making sense of everything and

996
00:48:59.159 --> 00:49:02.960
seeing its shit and how because I'm about six ' one,

997
00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:07.039
you know, in boots and this thing. I was looking

998
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:10.119
above towards it, and I was looking up at it.

999
00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:11.719
It was a foot taller than me.

1000
00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:15.079
I maybe that's a little maybe that's a little much,

1001
00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:18.440
but I it was there. I was gone, and I

1002
00:49:18.480 --> 00:49:20.320
just ran and we got to the car. We didn't

1003
00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:23.159
say anything, and we drug down the canyon and we

1004
00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:25.719
didn't talk about it. You didn't want to talk about

1005
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:28.119
it or anything. And I wanted to know more, so

1006
00:49:28.280 --> 00:49:30.840
I obviously poked out and asked questions. But it was

1007
00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:36.360
so frightening to just turn around and something just be there.

1008
00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:39.679
I grew up around animals, being surprised by an animal,

1009
00:49:39.719 --> 00:49:41.920
and you always can hear them or smell them, or

1010
00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:44.519
see them or something, and even most things in the

1011
00:49:44.599 --> 00:49:47.519
field wouldn't be that surprising, a cow or anything.

1012
00:49:48.239 --> 00:49:50.840
But this sound was just it.

1013
00:49:50.679 --> 00:49:54.639
Was the only thing that I ever heard anything that

1014
00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:58.000
sounded like it was those Sierra sounds, and it wasn't

1015
00:49:58.119 --> 00:49:59.000
language or anything.

1016
00:49:59.039 --> 00:50:02.840
It's like the got a roll sounds like a.

1017
00:50:02.519 --> 00:50:05.440
Just an octave that we just can't get to, like

1018
00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:10.280
it changes from some octave that humans don't have to,

1019
00:50:10.719 --> 00:50:13.239
like a shriek that we don't have, and just hearing

1020
00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:15.800
those sounds, it just it gives me goosebumps every time

1021
00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:17.519
I hear it, because it puts me right back in

1022
00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:21.239
that spot. And it just terrified me and him, and

1023
00:50:21.800 --> 00:50:24.360
I just was thankful to somebody else seen it with me.

1024
00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:28.800
But I never really you know, i'd say something here

1025
00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:29.719
or there, but it didn't.

1026
00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:30.960
It scared us to death.

1027
00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:32.800
But he had been around all kinds of animals and

1028
00:50:32.840 --> 00:50:36.360
he had too, But that was really an intense situation.

1029
00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:39.280
And just to think that something like that was out there,

1030
00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:42.599
you always hope, but now I knew. I didn't know

1031
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:45.280
what else that could be. There's a hope around there,

1032
00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:49.239
big horn sheep, and people have horses and cows.

1033
00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:51.159
There's just nothing that could have been.

1034
00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:54.400
We're able to get a good look at what the

1035
00:50:54.440 --> 00:50:55.880
creature's face looked like.

1036
00:50:56.639 --> 00:51:01.679
I couldn't see like a profile, like a brow ridge

1037
00:51:01.760 --> 00:51:05.679
or anything like that beyond what have been around the

1038
00:51:05.719 --> 00:51:08.920
forehead because of the way that I was looking at it,

1039
00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:11.880
so I couldn't see, you know, whether it had like

1040
00:51:11.920 --> 00:51:15.159
a big nose or small nose, or human face or

1041
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:19.559
it was just there wasn't a lot of hair on it,

1042
00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:24.159
but there was some around the face. But it really

1043
00:51:24.199 --> 00:51:27.480
didn't have the kind of care that I thought that

1044
00:51:27.559 --> 00:51:31.199
It would have surprised me it was bald on top.

1045
00:51:31.400 --> 00:51:31.679
It was.

1046
00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:33.840
I know it sounds probably strange to say, but the

1047
00:51:33.840 --> 00:51:35.880
more I picture it in my mind and think about it,

1048
00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:38.599
and I've thought about it a million times, but it

1049
00:51:38.800 --> 00:51:41.039
just I really wish I could have because I would

1050
00:51:41.079 --> 00:51:43.400
expect it to be to look human. I would think

1051
00:51:43.559 --> 00:51:46.559
it just there's nothing that looks like that standing in

1052
00:51:46.599 --> 00:51:48.280
the field like that, and it can make a sound

1053
00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:51.119
like that, I don't know, but that was something standing

1054
00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:54.559
up right and had a very large build. I'd been

1055
00:51:54.599 --> 00:51:58.719
around big bodybuilders, and nothing was every bit as big

1056
00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:00.840
as some of the biggest guys I've ever known.

1057
00:52:01.480 --> 00:52:06.000
Anything that you remember about dimensions of the creature that

1058
00:52:06.519 --> 00:52:08.519
seemed a little weird to you, or the way it

1059
00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:10.519
moved or anything like that.

1060
00:52:11.760 --> 00:52:12.360
I seen it.

1061
00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:14.760
When I turn around and seen it, I just seen

1062
00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:16.320
it barely move a shoulder.

1063
00:52:17.079 --> 00:52:19.199
And I would say, like, when I.

1064
00:52:19.320 --> 00:52:22.360
Compare him to like a bodybuilder, I had a friend

1065
00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:24.679
that he's like the world's largest bodybuilder.

1066
00:52:24.679 --> 00:52:26.920
He's six nine and almost three hundred pounds.

1067
00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:32.400
He was whiter in the shoulders than he is, and

1068
00:52:33.559 --> 00:52:36.440
it it was he was huge. I would think that

1069
00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:39.000
he would around seven feet. My friend Aaron that I'm

1070
00:52:39.039 --> 00:52:41.239
talking about, he is a very large guy. I would

1071
00:52:41.280 --> 00:52:44.360
think this thing is be over three hundred pounds. Just

1072
00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:48.320
the mask that it had, just seeing shoulders that that

1073
00:52:48.559 --> 00:52:49.719
in the traps, with.

1074
00:52:49.760 --> 00:52:51.440
The muscles that our go to the neck.

1075
00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:54.480
It was just it was big and you could see

1076
00:52:54.480 --> 00:52:56.639
the muscle just when you see a horse or a

1077
00:52:56.639 --> 00:52:58.360
cow and then they do have hair, but you can

1078
00:52:58.400 --> 00:53:01.760
see that there's muscles, vain undes and stuff. It was

1079
00:53:02.400 --> 00:53:06.280
very It just it didn't it was huge.

1080
00:53:07.039 --> 00:53:10.920
So try to put yourself back in that situation. Can

1081
00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:16.559
you remember what emotions you were feeling inside when you

1082
00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:20.159
had this actually in your sights and you were you

1083
00:53:20.280 --> 00:53:21.760
realized what you were looking at.

1084
00:53:22.320 --> 00:53:26.039
I when I seen and heard it, like the sound

1085
00:53:26.119 --> 00:53:28.840
had made I felt it in me. And I always say,

1086
00:53:29.239 --> 00:53:32.039
I just don't I'm not a flinch shirt, but I

1087
00:53:32.159 --> 00:53:36.519
was frozen, like I could feel like vibrating in my body,

1088
00:53:36.599 --> 00:53:39.519
like it was such a it was almost like it

1089
00:53:39.639 --> 00:53:42.840
had it was like moving air and it was like

1090
00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:45.599
I could feel the vibration and I could feel it

1091
00:53:45.639 --> 00:53:49.480
in my chest, and it was just it was terror.

1092
00:53:49.639 --> 00:53:50.079
I was.

1093
00:53:50.760 --> 00:53:52.880
I didn't really think those things gonna kill me as

1094
00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:56.760
much as I was just shocked that I that something

1095
00:53:56.840 --> 00:53:58.880
was making this noise and it was standing in the

1096
00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:01.039
middle of a field that nobody was supposed to be in,

1097
00:54:01.599 --> 00:54:04.159
and then it was we were there and it I

1098
00:54:04.199 --> 00:54:07.440
don't know. I just kept thinking that I surprised it,

1099
00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:09.760
and I just don't know how that would have been possible.

1100
00:54:09.920 --> 00:54:12.800
I just don't from what I hear other people say

1101
00:54:12.800 --> 00:54:16.639
about them. I just it's just I was in shock.

1102
00:54:16.719 --> 00:54:20.039
I was just frozen, and it's I can just as

1103
00:54:20.079 --> 00:54:21.920
soon as I turned around and ran, I just I

1104
00:54:21.960 --> 00:54:24.480
remember getting to the barber fence, crossing it, getting in

1105
00:54:24.599 --> 00:54:28.519
my friends the clips and peeling out and we were gone.

1106
00:54:29.079 --> 00:54:32.679
I went from being frozen to just being running it

1107
00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:35.239
for my life, like as fast as I could even

1108
00:54:35.280 --> 00:54:35.920
think about it.

1109
00:54:35.960 --> 00:54:38.079
I just I don't know. I guess it was just

1110
00:54:38.119 --> 00:54:41.800
a really fear and shock. Wow.

1111
00:54:41.880 --> 00:54:44.800
It reminded me again, sorry of the year that happened.

1112
00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:48.239
Oh my gosh, let's see you. I think that would

1113
00:54:48.280 --> 00:54:52.159
have had been two thousand and five. Or two thousand

1114
00:54:52.159 --> 00:54:56.199
and six. Okay, I think I'm just I haven't thought.

1115
00:54:56.239 --> 00:54:58.360
I'm trying to think about when I lived right in

1116
00:54:58.400 --> 00:55:00.519
that area, that's a guest.

1117
00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:02.480
Around two thousand and five, two thousand and six.

1118
00:55:03.079 --> 00:55:07.039
Yeah, I was living on the Western Slope and Grand Junction,

1119
00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:10.199
and yeah, it was a real not real mountainous in

1120
00:55:10.280 --> 00:55:12.920
that area. There is some mountains, but it's on the

1121
00:55:12.920 --> 00:55:15.719
western slope of the Continental Divide. It's like it turns

1122
00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:19.000
the desert right in the middle of the continent right there,

1123
00:55:19.079 --> 00:55:22.320
right in the Rockies. And I mean, you can do wilderness,

1124
00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:26.239
but there's a lot of mesas, and yeah, it definitely

1125
00:55:26.280 --> 00:55:27.599
can be wild out there.

1126
00:55:27.880 --> 00:55:30.800
Have you ever heard of a place called Twin Peaks,

1127
00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:32.400
Bible Camp and Grand Junction.

1128
00:55:33.119 --> 00:55:37.159
That's so funny because Grand Junction is where I was living,

1129
00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:40.000
That's where my family was ended up being based from.

1130
00:55:40.119 --> 00:55:43.360
Yep. I actually would probably.

1131
00:55:42.960 --> 00:55:45.000
Be familiar with where I was from, but I'm not

1132
00:55:45.119 --> 00:55:47.000
familiar with that particular one.

1133
00:55:47.079 --> 00:55:50.639
That's crazy, Okay, So I'm just curious because there is

1134
00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:56.119
a sighting near a Bible camp in Grand Junction as well.

1135
00:55:56.840 --> 00:55:58.079
Really, it's so funny.

1136
00:55:58.079 --> 00:56:01.679
It's called just having the Twin Peaks name is cool too,

1137
00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:03.880
so that's mysterious.

1138
00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:07.800
Also. I love that show. But that's interesting.

1139
00:56:08.280 --> 00:56:11.039
I'm gonna have to look and look into that one

1140
00:56:11.079 --> 00:56:13.840
and see because I always tried to see wherever I've

1141
00:56:13.880 --> 00:56:16.960
lived all over in the US, in any wild places

1142
00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:17.920
I ask people.

1143
00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:19.440
I always ask the old.

1144
00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:22.159
People who work in the mines or people who work

1145
00:56:22.199 --> 00:56:24.440
on the ocean or work in the woods, Like you

1146
00:56:24.480 --> 00:56:27.559
ever see anything strange, It's important to ask.

1147
00:56:27.400 --> 00:56:30.519
People like people. Those stories need to be remembered for sure.

1148
00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:32.679
But oh, that's crazy.

1149
00:56:32.760 --> 00:56:35.519
Yeah, because this area, like I've never really looked on

1150
00:56:35.519 --> 00:56:38.119
the map exactly where it was, but it was going

1151
00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:41.679
up towards the town of Gateway and there's a highway

1152
00:56:41.800 --> 00:56:45.880
on Route one, and I had two experiences, one on

1153
00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:48.239
the other side of that Grand Valley and.

1154
00:56:48.280 --> 00:56:51.199
The town of Mesa, and it was a couple. It

1155
00:56:51.239 --> 00:56:53.000
was years later, but it.

1156
00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:54.760
Was I'm gonna have to see if there was any

1157
00:56:54.800 --> 00:56:57.360
more on that Grand Mesa because it's supposedly it's the

1158
00:56:57.360 --> 00:56:59.440
biggest flat top mountain in the world and there's some

1159
00:56:59.599 --> 00:57:03.760
wild places on it too. There's always rumors about stuff

1160
00:57:03.760 --> 00:57:07.039
on that mountain. It's huge and it's flat. That's for sure.

1161
00:57:07.679 --> 00:57:11.880
Before we get to the second one, another question about

1162
00:57:12.159 --> 00:57:17.440
your encounter near the interesting Stone desk when you ran

1163
00:57:17.519 --> 00:57:20.880
back to the car with your buddy and you sped off.

1164
00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:25.880
Was there any conversation in that car or was it

1165
00:57:25.920 --> 00:57:26.719
nothing was said?

1166
00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:29.639
We were We did a whole lot of cursing. We

1167
00:57:29.679 --> 00:57:33.519
mostly got to the car. Just that was pretty much

1168
00:57:33.559 --> 00:57:36.800
the extent, And there might have been, Like I certainly

1169
00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:39.360
had a lot to say it, but my friend that

1170
00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:41.559
I was with, he was just you didn't want to

1171
00:57:41.559 --> 00:57:43.559
talk about stuff. He just wasn't one of those guys

1172
00:57:43.599 --> 00:57:47.199
to talk and he was really shaken up by it,

1173
00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:50.000
like it really terrified him and scared him, and he

1174
00:57:50.159 --> 00:57:53.079
just like he was scared and he wanted to be home.

1175
00:57:53.119 --> 00:57:55.000
And he was the older guy.

1176
00:57:55.239 --> 00:57:59.159
When I think around that time, I was Jude No,

1177
00:57:59.400 --> 00:58:00.360
nineteen years twenty.

1178
00:58:00.480 --> 00:58:02.079
My buddy he's in mid thirties.

1179
00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:04.400
You get a situation like that, you look at the

1180
00:58:04.440 --> 00:58:07.159
older person and take a little strength from them what

1181
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:09.559
to do or like what was that you tell me?

1182
00:58:09.960 --> 00:58:12.719
When he just was terrified And so I just didn't

1183
00:58:12.880 --> 00:58:15.639
push it, and I told people here and there and

1184
00:58:15.760 --> 00:58:18.440
talked with like I said, I'd ask people and the

1185
00:58:18.480 --> 00:58:22.280
people that I talked with about aliens or conspiracies and

1186
00:58:22.559 --> 00:58:25.400
stuff that ended up being true. And there's always mysterious

1187
00:58:25.400 --> 00:58:29.760
things in those Four Corners area Colorado. Talk about underground

1188
00:58:29.760 --> 00:58:32.559
bases and all kinds of stuff, And there is some

1189
00:58:32.719 --> 00:58:36.760
very mysterious areas down there in that area, real remote places.

1190
00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:40.800
There's tribes that disappear and stuff. But I would like

1191
00:58:40.880 --> 00:58:44.000
to know more sightings from in that area. I'd hear

1192
00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:46.639
a lot of people talking about skinwalkers and stuff like

1193
00:58:46.679 --> 00:58:49.639
that in that area, and I've never heard anybody to

1194
00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:52.000
my face tell me a story about a skinwalker.

1195
00:58:52.119 --> 00:58:52.840
So I don't know.

1196
00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:56.960
I do know that these things are real, as much

1197
00:58:57.000 --> 00:58:59.840
as my son is real, and my daughter and my wife,

1198
00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:03.119
and as soon as much as me talking to you,

1199
00:59:03.280 --> 00:59:07.480
these things exist, I don't know and what power in

1200
00:59:07.639 --> 00:59:10.960
what form there exists in this plane. And I've talked

1201
00:59:10.960 --> 00:59:14.639
with people about what they actually thought these were and

1202
00:59:14.719 --> 00:59:17.280
how we don't have a body or there's no evidence,

1203
00:59:17.360 --> 00:59:20.159
and whether they do bury their dead or not.

1204
00:59:20.960 --> 00:59:24.480
But I know some people really laugh this off. But

1205
00:59:25.119 --> 00:59:27.559
one of the best conclusions that I.

1206
00:59:27.199 --> 00:59:29.599
Heard somebody say it came from the same person who

1207
00:59:29.800 --> 00:59:33.000
told me that he believes that they were brought here

1208
00:59:33.119 --> 00:59:36.559
to mine gold, but then by who I don't know,

1209
00:59:36.679 --> 00:59:39.920
but then they were taken back or whatever because they

1210
00:59:39.920 --> 00:59:42.920
couldn't problem solve as well as the people, you know,

1211
00:59:43.000 --> 00:59:46.199
the next version or whatever. And supposedly a few of

1212
00:59:46.239 --> 00:59:48.800
them stayed and you know, as things evolved or whatever,

1213
00:59:48.840 --> 00:59:52.639
they stayed around. I don't know how much I believe that.

1214
00:59:53.360 --> 00:59:55.920
He also had told me that, you know, they might

1215
00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:59.400
be some type of being that you know, might exist,

1216
00:59:59.800 --> 01:00:03.400
you know, in another dimension that we don't have access to.

1217
01:00:04.599 --> 01:00:07.880
Some type of you know, that some people might be

1218
01:00:08.159 --> 01:00:11.480
that vibrates and the frequency that some people just don't see.

1219
01:00:11.800 --> 01:00:15.639
Some people just don't see deer before they jump across

1220
01:00:15.679 --> 01:00:18.320
the road, or they don't see a snake before they

1221
01:00:18.320 --> 01:00:20.760
step on it. And you know, even people that are

1222
01:00:20.800 --> 01:00:23.920
trained to see stuff don't see stuff sometimes. I'm not

1223
01:00:23.960 --> 01:00:26.440
saying that it counts for things, but I just really

1224
01:00:27.239 --> 01:00:30.519
thought about that a lot when I heard people talk

1225
01:00:30.519 --> 01:00:34.599
about what dimensions actually are and how many exist, and

1226
01:00:34.719 --> 01:00:37.280
it makes me think that there might be other things

1227
01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:41.719
that exist in other dimensions that we might consider monsters

1228
01:00:41.760 --> 01:00:45.599
are not or demons or angels or who knows, But

1229
01:00:46.320 --> 01:00:50.199
I don't know why there's not more people coming out

1230
01:00:50.239 --> 01:00:53.800
and saying how they actually feel or what that they've

1231
01:00:53.800 --> 01:00:55.960
had these experiences, because I don't know.

1232
01:00:56.000 --> 01:00:58.599
I've never really heard a lot of people say that.

1233
01:00:58.760 --> 01:01:01.599
I thought to myself, Yes, when I was thinking about

1234
01:01:01.639 --> 01:01:03.280
if I was going to say something or not, I'm

1235
01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:06.000
gonna say something because maybe that is I know that

1236
01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:09.840
people always draw that the some UFO Bigfoot connection that

1237
01:01:10.039 --> 01:01:12.840
sometimes that they see them in lights in the same

1238
01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:16.840
spot that they see bigfoots. And there's definitely places that

1239
01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:20.360
are like big energy vortexas and stuff like that, so

1240
01:01:20.440 --> 01:01:22.119
I could see something like that.

1241
01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:24.760
I don't know. I'm sure that you've.

1242
01:01:24.599 --> 01:01:28.519
Heard all kinds of different theories about it, but I

1243
01:01:28.639 --> 01:01:31.119
always thought that was strange. But it never kept me

1244
01:01:31.199 --> 01:01:33.599
from wanting to say something about it, because I always

1245
01:01:33.679 --> 01:01:36.719
knew that somebody was gonna say, oh, man, Tom's crazy.

1246
01:01:36.760 --> 01:01:38.760
He's just one of those guys. He just of course

1247
01:01:38.760 --> 01:01:39.639
he saw big Foot.

1248
01:01:39.679 --> 01:01:42.719
I never said anything about seeing Bigfoot till I did.

1249
01:01:43.039 --> 01:01:45.800
Big for Society will be right back after these messages.

1250
01:02:01.840 --> 01:02:05.559
Cool thing about Bigfoot is that and a lot of

1251
01:02:05.599 --> 01:02:11.559
people don't like this, but there is no proven truth

1252
01:02:12.039 --> 01:02:15.239
about the creature yet because we have in the fact

1253
01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:17.679
that we don't know if it's interdimensional, We don't know

1254
01:02:17.679 --> 01:02:21.280
if it's an ape or anything, because it hasn't been

1255
01:02:21.559 --> 01:02:26.480
captured and it hasn't been studied. So if someone says

1256
01:02:26.559 --> 01:02:30.599
to you, I know one hundred percent this is the thing, No,

1257
01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:33.519
you don't because it hasn't been captured and studied. Now

1258
01:02:33.599 --> 01:02:38.079
you may, like myself personally, I agree with Nawac where

1259
01:02:38.280 --> 01:02:40.639
I think we're looking at undiscovered grade ape. But like

1260
01:02:40.719 --> 01:02:45.639
then you hear the Chestnut Ridge Stan Gordon side of things,

1261
01:02:45.719 --> 01:02:48.599
and you have these UFO sightings and then bigfoot sightings

1262
01:02:48.639 --> 01:02:51.360
along right along with them. There's all sorts of stuff

1263
01:02:51.400 --> 01:02:54.159
when it comes to a bigfoot out there in the world,

1264
01:02:54.239 --> 01:02:54.719
for sure.

1265
01:02:55.280 --> 01:03:00.480
But definitely think that the people who see things in

1266
01:03:00.519 --> 01:03:02.880
the sky and people see things in the woods, so

1267
01:03:03.039 --> 01:03:05.880
the same type of person and they usually hopefully they'll

1268
01:03:05.920 --> 01:03:08.840
say something about it. But there are stories like those

1269
01:03:08.960 --> 01:03:13.639
are really I think that it's not like something like

1270
01:03:13.679 --> 01:03:17.039
that would be so far fetched. I really in that

1271
01:03:17.079 --> 01:03:20.239
part of Colorado, there's always been like I said, this

1272
01:03:20.440 --> 01:03:22.800
talks about there being some kind of bass and people

1273
01:03:22.840 --> 01:03:26.239
are always seeing the same types of crafts in the

1274
01:03:26.280 --> 01:03:29.559
sky and we literally would talk about if we thought

1275
01:03:29.639 --> 01:03:32.119
that they were government or not. I never saw any,

1276
01:03:32.519 --> 01:03:33.079
but I don't know.

1277
01:03:33.480 --> 01:03:33.880
This kid.

1278
01:03:34.320 --> 01:03:36.199
He looked us in the face and the only time

1279
01:03:36.239 --> 01:03:39.519
I ever seen us beyond this dude, be honest. He

1280
01:03:39.639 --> 01:03:42.119
said that they're going down the highway near the four

1281
01:03:42.199 --> 01:03:46.599
Corners and there's a big black v flying right down

1282
01:03:46.840 --> 01:03:49.920
with power lines, just going right down it real slow,

1283
01:03:49.960 --> 01:03:52.639
and everybody was stopping looking at it, trying to take

1284
01:03:52.679 --> 01:03:56.400
pictures and stuff. And they made him say something. And

1285
01:03:56.519 --> 01:03:59.400
I think that's good. But in that area, there's a

1286
01:03:59.400 --> 01:04:02.239
lot of strange stuff. And I always hope living out

1287
01:04:02.280 --> 01:04:05.679
here in Maine now that I'm gonna here's some really

1288
01:04:05.719 --> 01:04:08.440
cool ocean stories or something. But you know, as much

1289
01:04:08.440 --> 01:04:10.760
as I worked out there, I've seen some great white churchs,

1290
01:04:10.760 --> 01:04:11.400
but nothing cool.

1291
01:04:11.440 --> 01:04:12.920
There's no bigfoot out there. Nice.

1292
01:04:13.039 --> 01:04:16.000
Nice, Hey, you never know. So you had your awesome

1293
01:04:16.079 --> 01:04:21.000
sighting in Grand Junction Areas. So how long after did

1294
01:04:21.039 --> 01:04:25.280
you have your you had a sighting and you said Mesa?

1295
01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:28.960
Yeah, in Mesa, there's a in the Grand Valley that

1296
01:04:29.239 --> 01:04:32.719
Mesa is, like, you know, it's the biggest mountain now

1297
01:04:32.719 --> 01:04:35.159
if that you can't miss. It's big and flat and

1298
01:04:35.159 --> 01:04:38.000
it's got a Powder Horn ski resort up there. It's

1299
01:04:38.159 --> 01:04:40.719
not all kinds of lakes and all kinds of wilderness.

1300
01:04:40.760 --> 01:04:44.079
It's beautiful place. And I'd have to say this is

1301
01:04:44.079 --> 01:04:50.280
probably around see I think around two thousand nine, maybe

1302
01:04:50.280 --> 01:04:54.360
twenty eleven. I really wish I would have tried to

1303
01:04:54.440 --> 01:04:58.000
narrow down the years better. I'm sorry, I just geez.

1304
01:04:58.800 --> 01:05:00.360
Time flies. Yeah.

1305
01:05:00.440 --> 01:05:02.800
Up there on that Mesa there was a house that

1306
01:05:02.880 --> 01:05:04.800
I rented, and it was in the town of Mesa,

1307
01:05:04.840 --> 01:05:07.039
and there were a lot of wild spots up there.

1308
01:05:07.119 --> 01:05:07.280
Right.

1309
01:05:07.559 --> 01:05:11.199
Had some good friends that were awesome skiers and snowboarders,

1310
01:05:11.199 --> 01:05:14.119
and they were always going up in these awesome, real

1311
01:05:14.199 --> 01:05:16.840
wild places and it was a really interesting place to

1312
01:05:16.840 --> 01:05:19.320
be and I really like to find a place to

1313
01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:19.960
rent up there.

1314
01:05:19.960 --> 01:05:24.159
It's just really far from town. So I was at

1315
01:05:24.159 --> 01:05:24.440
the end.

1316
01:05:24.400 --> 01:05:26.320
Of this real long driveway and they're the corral with

1317
01:05:26.400 --> 01:05:29.760
nothing that was ever in it, and just a real

1318
01:05:29.840 --> 01:05:32.840
quiet place up there, big mountain in the desert and

1319
01:05:32.960 --> 01:05:35.360
nothing in the sky. You always see the stars. A

1320
01:05:35.440 --> 01:05:38.079
real beautiful place and I really enjoyed living up there.

1321
01:05:38.079 --> 01:05:40.920
It's just really far. I was up there and this

1322
01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:43.559
girl obvious see him he just started renting this place.

1323
01:05:43.280 --> 01:05:46.159
And I mean, now you get home, you'd be exhausted.

1324
01:05:46.199 --> 01:05:48.960
So he finally got home at a decent time that night,

1325
01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:52.280
decided we were gonna have a drink and go sit

1326
01:05:52.400 --> 01:05:54.920
on the top of the truck and look at the

1327
01:05:54.960 --> 01:05:58.119
stars and having some drinks and looking at the stars

1328
01:05:58.119 --> 01:06:02.159
and all that. Yeah, I've been trying to think about

1329
01:06:02.159 --> 01:06:04.079
how I was going to tell the story, but we're

1330
01:06:04.119 --> 01:06:07.199
about to talk about some sex for a second. So

1331
01:06:08.119 --> 01:06:11.960
me and this girl we were, we had some sex

1332
01:06:12.079 --> 01:06:13.880
up on top of the suburban that I had and

1333
01:06:14.280 --> 01:06:17.639
out there just looking at the stars. And this girl

1334
01:06:17.679 --> 01:06:21.800
I was with, she she was on her period, and

1335
01:06:22.039 --> 01:06:23.639
I don't know if there had anything to do with it,

1336
01:06:23.679 --> 01:06:28.320
but we started hearing and breathing right next to us,

1337
01:06:28.800 --> 01:06:31.519
and there's no animals in the crowd, which is George

1338
01:06:32.000 --> 01:06:36.320
where we were, and we liked it, and there's standing

1339
01:06:36.400 --> 01:06:38.880
right over there by us. It was It'd like to

1340
01:06:38.880 --> 01:06:41.239
say it was probably it felt like it was right

1341
01:06:41.239 --> 01:06:43.119
close to us, but we saw the whole profile of

1342
01:06:43.159 --> 01:06:46.119
it and it wasn't just me that thought, so I

1343
01:06:46.159 --> 01:06:50.960
was thankful for that. But we were terrified, and it

1344
01:06:51.039 --> 01:06:54.400
didn't make any noise or anything. We jumped down real quick,

1345
01:06:54.559 --> 01:06:57.559
got right in the truck and drove right down our

1346
01:06:57.639 --> 01:07:01.840
driveway and we were really out that we just went

1347
01:07:01.880 --> 01:07:05.719
from not really paying attention to anything to having something

1348
01:07:06.079 --> 01:07:07.320
potentially stocked us.

1349
01:07:07.360 --> 01:07:09.760
It really terrified us.

1350
01:07:09.960 --> 01:07:13.440
And our house was right there, not real far from it,

1351
01:07:13.480 --> 01:07:18.119
five hundred feet away. We got inside and it turned

1352
01:07:18.119 --> 01:07:21.119
off all the lights and we closed the blinds, and

1353
01:07:21.159 --> 01:07:24.440
we hadn't got any good blinds for the place, and

1354
01:07:24.599 --> 01:07:26.840
they were these little white you could pretty much see

1355
01:07:26.880 --> 01:07:29.199
through them, and we were terrified it was just going

1356
01:07:29.280 --> 01:07:32.159
to walk up the driveway. We didn't look at what

1357
01:07:32.239 --> 01:07:35.960
it did or if it stayed there, but it was

1358
01:07:37.000 --> 01:07:40.199
just standing there with one arm cocked and it ted

1359
01:07:40.320 --> 01:07:41.480
cocked and that was that.

1360
01:07:42.079 --> 01:07:44.199
And we seeing it at the same.

1361
01:07:44.039 --> 01:07:48.440
Time, and she screened and we got right down and

1362
01:07:49.039 --> 01:07:51.159
drove the five hundred feet down the driveway. What good

1363
01:07:51.199 --> 01:07:53.960
that would do, I don't know, but we were terrified.

1364
01:07:54.400 --> 01:07:56.440
Locking the door, we thought they it wanted to come

1365
01:07:56.440 --> 01:07:59.320
in or would want to because it saw where we went.

1366
01:08:00.119 --> 01:08:03.320
And it really was very strange.

1367
01:08:03.519 --> 01:08:05.800
It's a very strange story to try to tell people

1368
01:08:06.159 --> 01:08:10.000
about your personal life, where about someone you were with too,

1369
01:08:10.599 --> 01:08:14.639
but it at that time because I just I didn't

1370
01:08:14.880 --> 01:08:17.279
really didn't think about what it was or wasn't.

1371
01:08:17.560 --> 01:08:19.359
We were shocked that something was right there.

1372
01:08:19.880 --> 01:08:22.520
I didn't really ever since I had that experience, I

1373
01:08:22.600 --> 01:08:25.520
knew that things existed, but it really scared us.

1374
01:08:25.439 --> 01:08:29.039
And we kind of me and her.

1375
01:08:29.520 --> 01:08:31.760
The thing that we thought was that because maybe she

1376
01:08:31.960 --> 01:08:36.119
was menstruating, then maybe it smelled it. I don't, Like

1377
01:08:36.199 --> 01:08:38.039
I said, I was trying to figure out how I

1378
01:08:38.119 --> 01:08:39.720
was going to put all this, but I just figured

1379
01:08:39.760 --> 01:08:42.439
I'd just say how it was, and the only thing

1380
01:08:42.520 --> 01:08:46.439
like maybe smell this and walked up or something. I

1381
01:08:46.479 --> 01:08:50.399
don't know, but it terrified her and it terrified me.

1382
01:08:51.279 --> 01:08:53.960
But we talked about that a lot, and we talked

1383
01:08:54.000 --> 01:08:58.319
about that even with her family, and I mean we

1384
01:08:58.359 --> 01:09:01.039
didn't really you know, the fact that it wasn't a

1385
01:09:01.079 --> 01:09:05.239
man was you know, if it was just some perverse

1386
01:09:05.279 --> 01:09:08.159
a standing there watching people, that would be obviously you'd

1387
01:09:08.199 --> 01:09:11.119
be enraged and want to protect whoever you're with and

1388
01:09:11.560 --> 01:09:15.640
get out of any dangerous situations. But she clearly I

1389
01:09:15.640 --> 01:09:18.079
could see, she looks like she's looking at a monster,

1390
01:09:18.720 --> 01:09:21.159
you know, And I mean she kind of you know,

1391
01:09:21.920 --> 01:09:22.680
me and her dad had.

1392
01:09:22.680 --> 01:09:25.079
Kind of talked about Bigfoot before.

1393
01:09:25.680 --> 01:09:27.800
It says, just like I kind of saw, you know,

1394
01:09:27.880 --> 01:09:34.319
someone's face being like terrified and shocked and terrified real fast.

1395
01:09:34.439 --> 01:09:37.000
It just sheer terror, because what do you do?

1396
01:09:37.039 --> 01:09:40.199
Because it's at that point I'd already talked about with

1397
01:09:40.279 --> 01:09:43.279
people if they were interdimensionals, even wanted to come in

1398
01:09:43.359 --> 01:09:47.159
the house. Closing the blinds and locking the door and

1399
01:09:47.279 --> 01:09:49.199
laying on the floor so they can't look in the

1400
01:09:49.199 --> 01:09:52.079
blinds isn't gonna do any good. And I just know

1401
01:09:52.159 --> 01:09:54.319
that's just a ludicrous stra I know some people are

1402
01:09:54.319 --> 01:09:56.399
gonna make fun of me for that, but I really

1403
01:09:56.600 --> 01:09:59.000
I don't know what part I had to play in it,

1404
01:09:59.039 --> 01:10:02.439
but it made sense to me almost that That's like

1405
01:10:02.479 --> 01:10:05.239
I said, when I had that experience towards up in

1406
01:10:05.279 --> 01:10:08.199
that canyon, I wish I could have seen a face

1407
01:10:08.319 --> 01:10:11.560
or something, because something like that, it just doesn't look

1408
01:10:11.600 --> 01:10:15.159
at things in sea, faces in them in just in.

1409
01:10:15.159 --> 01:10:17.039
Trees or in leaves or in rock.

1410
01:10:17.600 --> 01:10:20.760
Something that was standing up right, it's not dragging its

1411
01:10:20.880 --> 01:10:23.039
arms on the ground and not slouched over.

1412
01:10:23.479 --> 01:10:25.520
You expect to look like a human.

1413
01:10:25.800 --> 01:10:27.800
And I really would have liked to have seen it,

1414
01:10:27.840 --> 01:10:32.159
But it's just panicking about what way anything and anybody's

1415
01:10:32.199 --> 01:10:33.000
gonna run is.

1416
01:10:33.079 --> 01:10:33.479
I don't know.

1417
01:10:33.640 --> 01:10:36.920
I wish I would have paid attention more about where

1418
01:10:37.079 --> 01:10:40.439
it went, because we have someone freaking out so bad

1419
01:10:40.520 --> 01:10:43.279
that trying to just trying to get the doors unlocked

1420
01:10:43.279 --> 01:10:45.159
in them in and then back out and then in

1421
01:10:45.159 --> 01:10:47.359
the house. It is difficult enough trying to figure out

1422
01:10:47.359 --> 01:10:50.920
where something like that wants to be. It's just gonna be.

1423
01:10:50.960 --> 01:10:53.319
But it was really how you shocked about that too.

1424
01:10:53.439 --> 01:10:56.399
And I feel like they just they just appeared in

1425
01:10:56.439 --> 01:10:58.479
spots in my life, and I think that's weird. And

1426
01:10:59.239 --> 01:11:01.279
I don't know if they that's just what they feel

1427
01:11:01.319 --> 01:11:04.079
like they do for other people. But like I said,

1428
01:11:04.119 --> 01:11:06.720
I felt like I walked up and stepped on one's

1429
01:11:06.760 --> 01:11:09.039
heel pretty much, and it was like pissed off or

1430
01:11:09.079 --> 01:11:11.720
surprised that I did it, and that other one has

1431
01:11:11.800 --> 01:11:15.560
just popped up. And hearing the breath being around big

1432
01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:17.880
animals like cows and horses, you hear some of them

1433
01:11:17.920 --> 01:11:20.279
that it has big lungs, taking big breasts like the

1434
01:11:20.359 --> 01:11:23.560
mucus and their lungs or just whatever. You hear them

1435
01:11:23.600 --> 01:11:26.159
breathing through their nose or their mouth and just some

1436
01:11:26.239 --> 01:11:29.640
of real big lungs. And there was never any cows

1437
01:11:29.720 --> 01:11:32.399
or horses in that corral or even any fields near

1438
01:11:32.439 --> 01:11:35.239
it since I'd started renting that place. And it was

1439
01:11:35.319 --> 01:11:37.760
just something you hear like that right away. It just

1440
01:11:37.920 --> 01:11:39.800
snaps you right out of whatever you're doing and you

1441
01:11:39.880 --> 01:11:43.279
look right towards what the sound is. And I didn't

1442
01:11:43.279 --> 01:11:47.960
see a color anything, but that didn't have but anything

1443
01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:48.920
that Like.

1444
01:11:48.760 --> 01:11:51.159
I said, the canyon.

1445
01:11:51.159 --> 01:11:53.600
Like I look like that one was bald on top,

1446
01:11:53.640 --> 01:11:55.520
but this one you could see ed hair on it.

1447
01:11:55.520 --> 01:11:59.000
It was definitely at the shape of a large hairy.

1448
01:11:58.680 --> 01:11:59.560
Man standing there.

1449
01:12:00.079 --> 01:12:03.520
I would have to say, like dimension wise, that one

1450
01:12:03.560 --> 01:12:07.439
that's probably I mean, I looking at my son's place

1451
01:12:07.520 --> 01:12:09.640
at out there in the backstand about eight fos tall.

1452
01:12:09.680 --> 01:12:11.600
I don't think that it would have been that tall.

1453
01:12:13.119 --> 01:12:15.920
I think it was probably a little shorter than that.

1454
01:12:16.319 --> 01:12:19.479
It was big, I mean something that tall. I mean,

1455
01:12:19.520 --> 01:12:22.880
it's definitely a big animal or whatever it is. But

1456
01:12:23.560 --> 01:12:24.760
something like that, I mean.

1457
01:12:25.239 --> 01:12:26.399
When you're hearing them breathe.

1458
01:12:26.560 --> 01:12:29.359
I hear people, you know, telling stories about looking them

1459
01:12:29.399 --> 01:12:31.920
in the eye or seeing steam coming off of them

1460
01:12:31.960 --> 01:12:34.479
and looking at the hairs on their skin and seeing

1461
01:12:34.560 --> 01:12:36.600
like the skin and the hair. Like I'm like, I

1462
01:12:36.760 --> 01:12:39.119
like hearing people say that because when you're looking at

1463
01:12:39.119 --> 01:12:43.199
something like people have big foot cutouts in their yards

1464
01:12:43.279 --> 01:12:45.880
all over in main they do in Colorado.

1465
01:12:46.239 --> 01:12:48.760
But when you're looking at something that's an animal.

1466
01:12:48.600 --> 01:12:52.279
Or that's alive, that's consciously looking back at you. You

1467
01:12:52.640 --> 01:12:55.439
notice when a bird is looking at you, You're like, hey,

1468
01:12:55.479 --> 01:12:58.720
what's a bird? Squirrels looking at you, bigger animals, same thing,

1469
01:12:58.760 --> 01:13:02.800
But something like that consciously looking at you is terrifying

1470
01:13:02.800 --> 01:13:06.000
because usually man, woman in the woods you use for

1471
01:13:06.039 --> 01:13:08.159
the most part, you're not gonna have too much trouble

1472
01:13:08.159 --> 01:13:11.840
with something. But I just felt like both times, just

1473
01:13:11.960 --> 01:13:14.279
like my space, all of a sudden, there was something

1474
01:13:14.399 --> 01:13:17.359
right in the space that exists around you.

1475
01:13:17.279 --> 01:13:20.720
You fee can feel something is there. And I could

1476
01:13:20.720 --> 01:13:23.359
definitely say it wasn't the only person that felt that

1477
01:13:23.479 --> 01:13:24.039
either time.

1478
01:13:24.359 --> 01:13:27.159
And like I said, I pester people about this all

1479
01:13:27.199 --> 01:13:29.119
the time, and I think a lot of my friends

1480
01:13:29.239 --> 01:13:31.479
in their trips to the woods, they're drinking and shit

1481
01:13:31.560 --> 01:13:34.439
like that, and I just I wonder how much stuff

1482
01:13:34.479 --> 01:13:36.600
actually goes on in the woods that people don't even

1483
01:13:36.600 --> 01:13:37.119
get to see.

1484
01:13:37.319 --> 01:13:39.079
Because there I take.

1485
01:13:38.880 --> 01:13:41.560
Advantage of any time I'm out there now, just in case.

1486
01:13:41.720 --> 01:13:43.560
But I don't know if it works like that. But

1487
01:13:44.239 --> 01:13:47.399
these times I definitely wasn't looking for anything like that.

1488
01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:51.760
I'll be honest, it's not the first time that it

1489
01:13:51.840 --> 01:13:54.479
has come up on the show. I'll think of one

1490
01:13:54.800 --> 01:13:58.520
and I had to take it out, yeah, just because

1491
01:13:58.560 --> 01:14:01.960
of the person who's telling the story requested I take

1492
01:14:01.960 --> 01:14:05.680
it out. But you're not the first person that that

1493
01:14:05.720 --> 01:14:07.359
has brought up something similar.

1494
01:14:08.039 --> 01:14:10.800
I always wondered that if it's something that, because what

1495
01:14:11.079 --> 01:14:13.840
this looked like to me was if they were gonna

1496
01:14:13.880 --> 01:14:16.399
pro create or something, they would probably do it like us,

1497
01:14:16.399 --> 01:14:20.319
like just another animal seeing another animal doing that, I

1498
01:14:20.399 --> 01:14:23.359
just don't I think that they would be interested in

1499
01:14:23.399 --> 01:14:26.439
it or wondering why they look like them, or I

1500
01:14:26.479 --> 01:14:30.319
don't know. I just I was always interested that if

1501
01:14:30.359 --> 01:14:33.479
there was more people that had that experience, because it

1502
01:14:34.079 --> 01:14:36.880
just it makes sense to me too, and there's been

1503
01:14:36.920 --> 01:14:39.479
stories of people getting drug off and all kinds of stuff.

1504
01:14:40.159 --> 01:14:41.399
I don't think anything like that.

1505
01:14:41.560 --> 01:14:45.119
I just think that when different species of animals and

1506
01:14:45.159 --> 01:14:49.159
maybe they see or hear and think, oh, they're like

1507
01:14:49.319 --> 01:14:53.079
us too, or I don't know, who knows what I'm

1508
01:14:53.079 --> 01:14:55.199
glad you hear the other people are at least saying it,

1509
01:14:55.239 --> 01:14:58.159
because that's just how you have to do it. It's

1510
01:14:58.199 --> 01:15:00.760
some of it's gonna sound stupid, and you as you're

1511
01:15:01.159 --> 01:15:02.399
saying it to someone.

1512
01:15:02.159 --> 01:15:05.159
You're gonna be like, I'm sound so stupid right now.

1513
01:15:05.640 --> 01:15:06.159
Definitely not.

1514
01:15:06.600 --> 01:15:11.520
Because there's an online blog. It's a cryptozoology blog called

1515
01:15:11.520 --> 01:15:16.359
cryptomundo dot com like Craig Willheater, and he's got an

1516
01:15:16.520 --> 01:15:19.880
article where he even talks about this, and I'll link

1517
01:15:19.920 --> 01:15:24.119
the article. But there's been at least one BFRO citing

1518
01:15:24.399 --> 01:15:30.520
report where a menstruation was involved. It then goes on

1519
01:15:30.760 --> 01:15:35.159
to talking about how that can attract grizzly bears. People

1520
01:15:35.279 --> 01:15:40.199
have been unfortunately killed by grizzly bears that were in

1521
01:15:40.279 --> 01:15:44.199
the middle of a menstruation. Big for society will be

1522
01:15:44.279 --> 01:16:02.640
right back after these messages, and then it kind of

1523
01:16:02.760 --> 01:16:06.680
ties back into you were wondering, like if that kind

1524
01:16:06.720 --> 01:16:08.079
of thing can attract well.

1525
01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:11.039
I always wonder when you hear David Plautus has such

1526
01:16:11.359 --> 01:16:14.000
he has so much good information on people, like telling

1527
01:16:14.079 --> 01:16:17.000
real stories. I think he's such a good example of

1528
01:16:17.319 --> 01:16:20.359
someone that's going out and getting the stories and leaving

1529
01:16:20.439 --> 01:16:23.359
them to do their own work by just telling the story.

1530
01:16:23.640 --> 01:16:26.039
And a lot of these people are having experiences, Like

1531
01:16:26.079 --> 01:16:28.600
some of them, they're not saying what they're seeing. They're

1532
01:16:28.600 --> 01:16:31.600
not looking at it. He and I always thought. I

1533
01:16:31.640 --> 01:16:34.880
always wondered, are we going the wrong way when we

1534
01:16:34.960 --> 01:16:36.960
think that, you know what I mean? I know that

1535
01:16:37.199 --> 01:16:41.800
sounds so vague, But maybe they're not as much ape

1536
01:16:42.520 --> 01:16:43.560
or human at all.

1537
01:16:43.760 --> 01:16:44.880
Maybe I don't know.

1538
01:16:45.399 --> 01:16:47.399
I always wonder because people are like, oh, they're just

1539
01:16:47.560 --> 01:16:49.000
eight men out in the woods and stuff.

1540
01:16:49.000 --> 01:16:51.199
And I mean, you know, I've been.

1541
01:16:51.039 --> 01:16:54.560
To zoos and seen monkeys and chimpanzees and stuff like that.

1542
01:16:55.119 --> 01:17:01.079
I have a question about your partner during the can encounter.

1543
01:17:01.840 --> 01:17:03.439
Did she believe in Bigfoot before?

1544
01:17:04.119 --> 01:17:04.680
Oh? Yeah.

1545
01:17:04.840 --> 01:17:08.640
The funny thing about me and her dad, we had

1546
01:17:08.680 --> 01:17:12.600
so many talks about He was really big into Bigfoot

1547
01:17:12.640 --> 01:17:16.560
and stuff. He was always talking about books that he

1548
01:17:16.640 --> 01:17:20.199
was reading and new angles on the Patterson Gimlin film

1549
01:17:20.279 --> 01:17:23.840
and stories from here, the Skunk ape stories and stuff.

1550
01:17:23.920 --> 01:17:26.600
And he was always giving me his opinion and what

1551
01:17:26.720 --> 01:17:29.399
he thought things were. And she was always part of that,

1552
01:17:29.920 --> 01:17:33.560
by default, by osmosis, by him just wanting to learn

1553
01:17:33.560 --> 01:17:37.920
about it. And she spent in all due respect, more

1554
01:17:37.960 --> 01:17:40.319
time in the woods than I ever have, and I've

1555
01:17:41.000 --> 01:17:44.079
she just was one of those people. Her family, they

1556
01:17:44.199 --> 01:17:47.039
grew up just being in the woods and around animals

1557
01:17:47.039 --> 01:17:51.680
all the time. And I knew that everyone thought that,

1558
01:17:52.520 --> 01:17:55.159
like we were all crazy for having us talk. But

1559
01:17:55.319 --> 01:17:58.640
the funny thing about you asking about this is that

1560
01:17:58.720 --> 01:18:02.239
we never felt straight range for going up to her

1561
01:18:02.279 --> 01:18:05.920
dad and saying, guess what and guess what happened to us.

1562
01:18:06.039 --> 01:18:08.520
It wasn't like that we were I was like, we

1563
01:18:08.680 --> 01:18:11.119
just saw one. He always was always looking in the

1564
01:18:11.119 --> 01:18:14.960
woods for stuff and he's never had any experiences early

1565
01:18:15.039 --> 01:18:17.319
that I knew of, but he always felt like he

1566
01:18:17.399 --> 01:18:19.920
was on the trail of it somewhere and always collecting

1567
01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:22.600
stories as he could find them and stuff. But we

1568
01:18:22.600 --> 01:18:25.520
were excited to tell him because he just always believed

1569
01:18:25.520 --> 01:18:27.800
in it and stuff like that too. He had guys

1570
01:18:27.840 --> 01:18:31.600
that worked with breaking horses and doing many other things

1571
01:18:31.640 --> 01:18:34.760
that had dad experiences in the woods that were that

1572
01:18:34.840 --> 01:18:37.720
He said that at percent, like he knew that it

1573
01:18:38.239 --> 01:18:40.960
existed and it was just something that I think that

1574
01:18:41.039 --> 01:18:44.319
there is a lot more people that considered it something

1575
01:18:44.399 --> 01:18:47.520
that lives and breathes and exists that we know of,

1576
01:18:47.640 --> 01:18:48.279
and that's.

1577
01:18:48.119 --> 01:18:50.359
I think that's works out to our favor.

1578
01:18:51.079 --> 01:18:54.359
And I think that more people are becoming open to

1579
01:18:54.800 --> 01:18:58.600
saying like stories that have became like a family story,

1580
01:18:58.840 --> 01:19:02.279
something that happened to Graham. They don't want people things

1581
01:19:02.359 --> 01:19:05.039
like that or Dad didn't want to say anything about

1582
01:19:05.079 --> 01:19:08.159
this during the war or something. Lest you get these

1583
01:19:08.159 --> 01:19:11.479
guys coming back from places like Vietnam having like with

1584
01:19:11.560 --> 01:19:16.000
the rock ape story, having fights with these giant rock

1585
01:19:16.079 --> 01:19:18.840
apes and stuff like, we're always trying to, you know,

1586
01:19:19.119 --> 01:19:22.560
hear cool stories about stuff like that, but no, we

1587
01:19:22.560 --> 01:19:26.159
were very hipped to, you know, learning about Bigfoot or

1588
01:19:26.279 --> 01:19:28.960
UFOs or trying to get the information at least because

1589
01:19:29.079 --> 01:19:31.119
all you can do is get the information and kind

1590
01:19:31.119 --> 01:19:32.079
of sort through.

1591
01:19:32.279 --> 01:19:37.079
So you like the conversation with her father that debt

1592
01:19:37.640 --> 01:19:42.319
turned out okay, that oh go sideways or anything.

1593
01:19:42.520 --> 01:19:46.479
Wow, are you the least bit surprised? As tough as

1594
01:19:46.520 --> 01:19:49.960
they were or I shouldn't say were are like, and

1595
01:19:50.279 --> 01:19:53.520
the kind of terrain that they'd been through on horseback

1596
01:19:53.560 --> 01:19:55.880
and the stuff that they'd put me through in the

1597
01:19:55.920 --> 01:19:59.439
woods for fun with them on horseback, I know how

1598
01:19:59.520 --> 01:20:03.319
tough they are, Like, he didn't surprise him or freak

1599
01:20:03.399 --> 01:20:04.800
him out or anything like that.

1600
01:20:05.359 --> 01:20:10.039
He knew what everybody could handle a or are very

1601
01:20:10.079 --> 01:20:12.960
tough people and really good with the animals. And I

1602
01:20:12.960 --> 01:20:13.279
don't know.

1603
01:20:13.359 --> 01:20:16.560
I guess I can understand, like with some people being like, oh,

1604
01:20:16.600 --> 01:20:18.880
would you be freaking out to say something? I was

1605
01:20:18.920 --> 01:20:21.560
psyched because it's something that you could actually say. Look,

1606
01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:24.239
I've got something to say. This is awesome. This has

1607
01:20:24.279 --> 01:20:27.159
some weights. I know you've got stories, but guess what,

1608
01:20:27.359 --> 01:20:30.600
and guess who was with me? Just to have somebody corroborate.

1609
01:20:30.720 --> 01:20:33.880
And a lot of times things happen obviously nobody ever

1610
01:20:33.920 --> 01:20:38.119
has a camera conveniently or whatever. However that always works.

1611
01:20:38.119 --> 01:20:40.279
It's just the roll of the dice and likes all

1612
01:20:40.399 --> 01:20:42.439
kinds of times on the boat, I can't get my

1613
01:20:42.520 --> 01:20:44.760
phone out to take a picture of a big lobster

1614
01:20:44.920 --> 01:20:46.800
or a shark or something because my hands are wet.

1615
01:20:47.119 --> 01:20:48.920
It just works like that sometimes.

1616
01:20:49.119 --> 01:20:54.000
But that's that is one of the most interesting stories.

1617
01:20:54.039 --> 01:20:58.039
And after let's say there's that night you left you

1618
01:20:58.840 --> 01:21:01.680
did you go back the next day to look around

1619
01:21:01.680 --> 01:21:04.159
the area to see if you could find any evidence

1620
01:21:04.239 --> 01:21:04.640
or anything.

1621
01:21:04.640 --> 01:21:06.560
I thought, No, I didn't.

1622
01:21:06.960 --> 01:21:09.520
After that, I kind of joked about going up to

1623
01:21:09.560 --> 01:21:11.520
that spot with myself. I just, you know, maybe I

1624
01:21:11.520 --> 01:21:13.239
should just go for a drive up there and just

1625
01:21:13.279 --> 01:21:16.159
take a look. And I gone up that way a

1626
01:21:16.159 --> 01:21:18.920
little bit for a couple of jobs I was doing,

1627
01:21:19.479 --> 01:21:25.239
and I could never really, I could never really find

1628
01:21:25.279 --> 01:21:27.239
it in myself for a reason to want to go

1629
01:21:27.319 --> 01:21:30.520
back out there, not because I felt like there was

1630
01:21:30.600 --> 01:21:32.640
gonna be something waiting for me or that I'd even

1631
01:21:32.680 --> 01:21:35.960
get any result from it, Because I mean, it was

1632
01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:39.000
in the middle of a field, at this weird you know,

1633
01:21:39.279 --> 01:21:39.640
at this.

1634
01:21:39.640 --> 01:21:40.840
Weird concrete desk.

1635
01:21:40.920 --> 01:21:45.239
That's if they literally made a child's desk for like

1636
01:21:45.439 --> 01:21:48.560
middle school out of concrete. It was the most absurdly

1637
01:21:48.600 --> 01:21:51.039
weird thing. It was like a modern art piece, like

1638
01:21:51.079 --> 01:21:53.840
from like someplace in Seattle or something. It was just

1639
01:21:54.199 --> 01:21:59.760
obnoxiously weird, and it just I just never I knew

1640
01:21:59.800 --> 01:22:01.560
that if I went back and tried to find some answers,

1641
01:22:01.600 --> 01:22:04.840
they wouldn't be there, because that's just how it would

1642
01:22:04.840 --> 01:22:08.479
have worked. I knew that it was just going to

1643
01:22:08.520 --> 01:22:11.760
be gone, like anywhere else, and that place that I

1644
01:22:11.800 --> 01:22:13.720
lived up in the town of Mays, I just had

1645
01:22:13.800 --> 01:22:15.960
to live there. It was just part of living there.

1646
01:22:16.079 --> 01:22:18.840
I just always was sketched out about being there. And

1647
01:22:19.159 --> 01:22:22.039
we didn't live there for long, and I didn't It

1648
01:22:22.119 --> 01:22:24.159
was a long commute, so I was able to get

1649
01:22:24.199 --> 01:22:27.520
out of that pretty quickly, but it always left just

1650
01:22:27.560 --> 01:22:33.159
a weird feeling about just being around there. There was

1651
01:22:33.239 --> 01:22:36.560
just a something like that if you just don't feel

1652
01:22:36.600 --> 01:22:41.079
like you have like you something like that, it can

1653
01:22:41.119 --> 01:22:44.359
overpower you. And just it's just it takes you down

1654
01:22:44.399 --> 01:22:47.439
a notch knowing that something like that is around and close.

1655
01:22:48.279 --> 01:22:51.439
It's not like being in bear country or anything like that.

1656
01:22:51.560 --> 01:22:56.039
It's something that's conscious on a different level than something

1657
01:22:56.279 --> 01:23:01.439
that you know, like a bear. This can solve, apparently,

1658
01:23:01.600 --> 01:23:06.159
and just really it just left a weird just I say,

1659
01:23:06.199 --> 01:23:07.920
like a weird dark energy because it wasn't bad. It

1660
01:23:07.960 --> 01:23:11.520
was more just being freaked out about feeling like all

1661
01:23:11.520 --> 01:23:13.359
of a sudden, this placed way up in the mountains.

1662
01:23:13.439 --> 01:23:14.640
I thought was a nice.

1663
01:23:14.399 --> 01:23:18.600
Little secluded little cabin, nice little place to rent with

1664
01:23:18.720 --> 01:23:21.399
a nice little cottage, you know, have a little corral

1665
01:23:21.600 --> 01:23:23.640
just in case, you know, you get a horse or something,

1666
01:23:24.039 --> 01:23:25.760
and it just put it like a stain on it

1667
01:23:25.800 --> 01:23:29.239
where it just like I really felt like it wasn't

1668
01:23:29.279 --> 01:23:30.840
safe in the place that you wanted to have a

1669
01:23:30.840 --> 01:23:31.279
home at.

1670
01:23:31.319 --> 01:23:32.399
So I just was ready to go.

1671
01:23:33.119 --> 01:23:35.560
I spend enough time in the woods and stuff where

1672
01:23:35.800 --> 01:23:37.520
it's like, even if you wanted to go back to

1673
01:23:37.560 --> 01:23:40.600
some of these spots, I feel like you just gotta

1674
01:23:40.680 --> 01:23:43.439
do it by chance to be lucky. I felt like

1675
01:23:43.520 --> 01:23:45.800
if I ever looked at it like I wanted to

1676
01:23:45.840 --> 01:23:48.960
see something or find something, I just it wouldn't work

1677
01:23:49.000 --> 01:23:49.359
that way.

1678
01:23:49.800 --> 01:23:53.199
That's if I buy the lottery ticket guaranteed gonna lose.

1679
01:23:53.439 --> 01:23:54.680
Doesn't work that way for me.

1680
01:23:55.159 --> 01:23:58.720
So it has to on the fly and just has

1681
01:23:58.760 --> 01:24:01.920
to come to me in somewhere way. And there was

1682
01:24:02.000 --> 01:24:04.920
really hoping that now that I'm out here in Maine,

1683
01:24:05.079 --> 01:24:08.359
like I could start talking with some people about any

1684
01:24:08.439 --> 01:24:11.680
experiences that they'd have. And hearing that story from some

1685
01:24:11.800 --> 01:24:14.760
guy cuts wood up north of here like that was

1686
01:24:14.880 --> 01:24:18.239
really encouraging to here. That's what made me decide I've

1687
01:24:18.279 --> 01:24:20.479
got to at least send an email in and at

1688
01:24:20.560 --> 01:24:24.600
least say something, because that's somebody I could literally probably

1689
01:24:24.760 --> 01:24:27.880
I bet you I cut trees and with people that

1690
01:24:28.000 --> 01:24:30.119
know who that is, you know, I bet you I

1691
01:24:30.159 --> 01:24:32.800
can figure out who it is and probably sit down

1692
01:24:32.840 --> 01:24:35.039
and talk with them if they wanted to, you know

1693
01:24:35.039 --> 01:24:37.399
what I mean. And that makes me feel good to

1694
01:24:37.520 --> 01:24:40.039
know that people that are having real.

1695
01:24:39.760 --> 01:24:40.520
Experiences like that.

1696
01:24:40.600 --> 01:24:43.000
And like I said, I'm only you know, I'm just

1697
01:24:43.039 --> 01:24:47.039
a guy on a pod who's talking to you on

1698
01:24:47.079 --> 01:24:49.680
a podcast about a story that I've had. Like it's

1699
01:24:49.720 --> 01:24:52.199
only as real as it is to us, you know,

1700
01:24:52.680 --> 01:24:54.359
to our mind and how we accept it.

1701
01:24:54.439 --> 01:24:56.960
And you know, I feel.

1702
01:24:56.880 --> 01:24:59.880
Like you know that story right there, and knowing that

1703
01:25:00.039 --> 01:25:02.600
I could literally, probably if I wanted to, you know,

1704
01:25:02.840 --> 01:25:05.239
if they were accepting of it, sit down and talk

1705
01:25:05.279 --> 01:25:07.960
about it like I want to, you know, that made

1706
01:25:08.039 --> 01:25:11.199
me want to make sure that more people could feel

1707
01:25:11.199 --> 01:25:14.159
that way, Like more people were gonna start saying these

1708
01:25:14.279 --> 01:25:17.520
experiences that I mean, you know that story in particular.

1709
01:25:17.640 --> 01:25:21.560
I mean, I know all about that wild that country is,

1710
01:25:22.079 --> 01:25:24.600
and I've always joked about wanting to go up there

1711
01:25:24.640 --> 01:25:27.279
and cut wood, but I don't know if I'm man enough.

1712
01:25:27.359 --> 01:25:29.439
There's some tough country up there too. Maine is a

1713
01:25:29.479 --> 01:25:31.800
lot more wild than people think it is. That's for sure.

1714
01:25:32.000 --> 01:25:35.279
Maine is crazy, but it's awesome. I would feel that

1715
01:25:35.439 --> 01:25:38.279
if you keep asking up there, you're gonna you're gonna

1716
01:25:39.279 --> 01:25:42.000
run into some stories, no doubt.

1717
01:25:42.079 --> 01:25:44.000
Oh I've heard.

1718
01:25:44.159 --> 01:25:47.399
I've heard people talk about seeing big cats in the state.

1719
01:25:47.600 --> 01:25:50.800
Like I used to fish off a boat in Addison.

1720
01:25:50.880 --> 01:25:53.439
That's we call this down East Maine where I'm at now,

1721
01:25:53.520 --> 01:25:56.840
And like I live in down East Maine and I

1722
01:25:56.960 --> 01:26:00.279
work on Mount Desert Island, and I used to fish

1723
01:26:01.000 --> 01:26:06.279
farther from here what A called Counties towards Addison, long Drive,

1724
01:26:06.399 --> 01:26:08.640
and I was going to the boat one morning. We've

1725
01:26:08.640 --> 01:26:12.560
seen it, just a big giant cat out here, and

1726
01:26:11.680 --> 01:26:15.039
they they've never seen big mountain lions out here, and

1727
01:26:15.159 --> 01:26:18.159
m I geez, I was mountain lion Maine all the granted,

1728
01:26:18.479 --> 01:26:19.880
Oh man, it'd be a great place.

1729
01:26:20.159 --> 01:26:23.920
I'd be here. It's pretty cold though. Did you ever

1730
01:26:23.960 --> 01:26:24.560
come up to Maine.

1731
01:26:25.039 --> 01:26:25.720
Yeah, definitely.

1732
01:26:25.760 --> 01:26:25.880
So.

1733
01:26:26.159 --> 01:26:30.079
I grew up in western mass Massachusetts, in a town

1734
01:26:30.119 --> 01:26:32.680
called Northfield, so we would vacation.

1735
01:26:33.119 --> 01:26:33.479
We would.

1736
01:26:33.600 --> 01:26:37.600
We've done the whole kind of bunk port saying Camden Kitterie.

1737
01:26:37.800 --> 01:26:42.520
We've also gone hiking up near not actual Katten but

1738
01:26:42.760 --> 01:26:47.960
like the base often run in with a moose and

1739
01:26:48.000 --> 01:26:52.119
his family there when I was about eleven or twelve

1740
01:26:52.159 --> 01:26:55.359
in my family, that's another story. But yeah, that whole.

1741
01:26:55.840 --> 01:26:58.760
The main area is wild, and especially when you get

1742
01:26:58.840 --> 01:27:01.960
up you go north up by the Canadian border, gets

1743
01:27:02.000 --> 01:27:06.039
crazy up there. But there are some really interesting bigfoot

1744
01:27:06.079 --> 01:27:08.319
things that come up in Maine. There's this one story

1745
01:27:08.319 --> 01:27:11.239
you should look up. I believe it's called the Meddy

1746
01:27:11.319 --> 01:27:14.279
Bemps Howler. That's a fun one to look up. There's

1747
01:27:14.319 --> 01:27:15.840
not a lot about it.

1748
01:27:15.960 --> 01:27:21.840
But yeah, actually think that I'm on someone's channel, you know,

1749
01:27:21.880 --> 01:27:25.279
because I find I on YouTube, like Bob Gimblin. There's

1750
01:27:25.439 --> 01:27:29.119
you know, he's a great one, you know, a less

1751
01:27:29.239 --> 01:27:32.680
less croud like I love less is like his work,

1752
01:27:32.720 --> 01:27:35.479
and I think he's very credible, respectful man. I think

1753
01:27:35.520 --> 01:27:38.439
he goes about it very professionally, very respectfully.

1754
01:27:38.560 --> 01:27:40.159
He is definitely.

1755
01:27:40.680 --> 01:27:43.840
I think that his experience in Alaska, like I thought

1756
01:27:43.880 --> 01:27:47.239
that was really you'd figure that people spend their lives

1757
01:27:47.239 --> 01:27:49.479
in all kinds of jungles and countries would come back

1758
01:27:49.479 --> 01:27:52.000
with all kinds of stories. Sometimes it just doesn't happen,

1759
01:27:52.079 --> 01:27:54.720
like that's when you're literally not paying attention or something.

1760
01:27:54.800 --> 01:27:58.359
Yeah, he's got but there is some good information out there.

1761
01:27:58.399 --> 01:28:00.760
And one of those guys in one of those channels

1762
01:28:00.760 --> 01:28:04.199
that so you called it it was the Meddi Bepps howler.

1763
01:28:04.119 --> 01:28:07.359
Meddi Meddi Bemp's howler. I want to say it might

1764
01:28:07.399 --> 01:28:10.319
have been on There's an old site called Bigfoot Encounters

1765
01:28:10.359 --> 01:28:13.520
dot com. You would love it. You should check it out. Yeah,

1766
01:28:13.600 --> 01:28:17.920
it's got some really great old stories and accounts old

1767
01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:21.399
researcher Bobby Short who's unfortunately not with us anymore, but

1768
01:28:21.560 --> 01:28:23.920
Bigfoot encounters dot com is great to check out.

1769
01:28:24.600 --> 01:28:26.079
Oh, I'm gonna go out.

1770
01:28:26.279 --> 01:28:27.399
Thank you for letting me now.

1771
01:28:27.640 --> 01:28:32.640
Yeah, there's been there's always like the Rocky Mountain Bigfoot

1772
01:28:32.760 --> 01:28:35.720
Organization is one of the first places when I was younger,

1773
01:28:35.720 --> 01:28:37.920
and this happened that I started trying to put my

1774
01:28:38.039 --> 01:28:41.039
story in and and all fairness, like only in the

1775
01:28:41.079 --> 01:28:44.039
past couple of years have I even decided to actually,

1776
01:28:44.439 --> 01:28:46.840
probably in the past eight years, I decided to actually

1777
01:28:46.840 --> 01:28:50.479
get a smartphone. Like never wanted a computer, never wanted

1778
01:28:50.520 --> 01:28:53.279
email presses or any of that stuff. And so like

1779
01:28:53.359 --> 01:28:55.760
now I'm actually like trying to find a lot of

1780
01:28:55.760 --> 01:28:59.279
disinformation actually finding some good stuff. And you wouldn't have

1781
01:28:59.279 --> 01:29:02.279
found you or any stuff any other way. And I'm

1782
01:29:02.279 --> 01:29:05.000
glad that there is such a good easy route to

1783
01:29:05.039 --> 01:29:08.359
do that. Like you said once, again the platform. That's

1784
01:29:08.439 --> 01:29:09.279
great to have it you.

1785
01:29:09.600 --> 01:29:13.039
Thank you so much, absolutely, Tom, I'm so glad that

1786
01:29:13.079 --> 01:29:14.680
you reached out to me and we were able to

1787
01:29:14.800 --> 01:29:18.560
chat for a little bit about your encounters, and I

1788
01:29:18.560 --> 01:29:21.079
hope that you keep in touch and if you ever

1789
01:29:21.159 --> 01:29:24.520
run any into anything up in Maine, definitely let me know.

1790
01:29:24.640 --> 01:29:27.760
Or if you ever get back to Colorado and anything

1791
01:29:27.800 --> 01:29:32.479
out from there, definitely that as well. You're at Bigfoot Society.

1792
01:29:32.600 --> 01:29:35.720
Art goal is to provide a platform for those that

1793
01:29:35.800 --> 01:29:40.239
have encountered Bigfoot to share their encounter environment. But we

1794
01:29:40.319 --> 01:29:43.720
need to hear your story. If you've experienced something that

1795
01:29:43.760 --> 01:29:48.680
you just can't explain, please send me an email at

1796
01:29:48.680 --> 01:29:52.520
Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. Then we can start

1797
01:29:52.560 --> 01:29:55.680
the conversation. And I know a lot of you have

1798
01:29:55.760 --> 01:29:59.680
not shared your encounter at all. It's been twenty years

1799
01:30:00.920 --> 01:30:03.159
and it's time that you get this off your chest

1800
01:30:03.960 --> 01:30:06.000
and then you can get some well deserved for rest,

1801
01:30:06.119 --> 01:30:09.680
because I know you haven't been sleeping. I understand what

1802
01:30:09.720 --> 01:30:12.279
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1803
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1825
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1826
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Spirit Lake Stuttle Lake, Mackenzie River Area, Sweet Home area,

1827
01:31:45.399 --> 01:31:48.960
the area west of Crater Lake, east of two thirty

1828
01:31:49.000 --> 01:31:52.159
West Diamond Lake Highway, and north of sixty two Crater

1829
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Lake Highway. You can use email Bigfoot Society at gmail

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