Eastern Shore Bigfoot: A Lifetime of Sightings

0:00 You're listening to Big for Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron Tonight's story is from a man who spent decades living on the edge of eastern Maryland's Forgotten Forest, long before the Internet ever whispered the word Bigfoot. But in the pine thickets of Pokemoke, the dump sites of chicken farms, and the foggy curves of meadow Bridge Road, something was already watching and it growled and screened and reached for him. So lifetime of first hand encounters from a man who never went looking for Bigfoot, but found him anyways. And this is the story of Alan in the Road. He'll never forget. So stay with us, all right, Big for Society. You've got the privilege of talking to Alan today. Alan is an individual who's an outdoorsman and a hunter, and he's experienced some really interesting things over the years in Maryland, in Kansas. So we've got a lot of interesting ground to cover today. But welcome to the show.

0:50 Alan. How's it going. It's going well, Jeremiah, thank you for having. Me absolutely, you know, I'm excited to talk to you today. This is an area, it's eastern Maryland, which has come up a few times on the show already, but this is a part of Eastern Maryland that has not come up. So this is a brand new territory for us on the show. But Alan, I want to make sure that you have the time to share what you've experienced. So feel free to take us back as far back as needs to go to when you started experiencing some of these situations. Okay, thank you. It started back mid sixties, like sixty six sixty seven, when I was ten years old, And before I really get into it, I want to kind of give your listeners a background from the lower Eastern Shore.

1:44 On the Eastern Shore, Maryland, they call it the del Marve Peninsula, a lot, especially back then, a lot of forested areas, last stomping grounds. I was lived in a place called West Post Office and we had a huge track September that butted up to what they call the Pocomo Pokemoke State Forest, which is about eighteen thousand acres of trees, hardwoods and pine trees. Es Adkins had some stuff j I Wells. They were all timber companies that also had huge tracks of timber that abutted the Pokemoke State Forest and the fire Rose through there. That's where my cousins and I that was our stomping grounds. We had ponies. We'd ride through there, did a lot of that stuff, and then once we got rid of that, I had a dirt bike and another neighbor friend of mine, we would go riding back through there with dirt bike.

2:40 So not too much of that whole area that we did not explore as kids. And in that area it was not unusual for us to pack lunch, leave in the morning and not come back home until nightfall, because that's just how it was back then. So getting into the first encounter, if you like I say it was in sixty six or sixty seven, I was ten or eleven years old something where in there, and my cousin and I, my younger cousin, Tim, and I were riding ponies back in a forest of ji Wells. We were about a quarter a mile back in the forest and riding on one of the forest roads, the fire roads, and it was a sandy type road, and it was the type of sand that it was white on top, but if you scratched it you would see the darker layer underneath. And we'd gone back there and we came upon scratches in that root, and they were scratches about maybe four feet long, about four and a half to five inches apart, like three of them, and you could see scratch marks and say an overlap, like something had come down there and done it, and no other foot prints around nothing. And at first we were thinking maybe it was a hawk that came down, but the way the scratches were far apart, that didn't make any sense

4:10 to us. So we were actually just sitting on the ponies just kind of discussing what these things were looking at. I'm trying to figure it out, as you know kids, and the ponies were nervous. I mean normally they would be fine, they just sit there, you know, because like erode these things all the time, but this day they were just kind of antsy. And after about five minutes or so looking at these things, there was this growl. It came from about like thirty thirty five feet in the brush away from us, and you know, we're like perked up, and then the bushes just started, you know, shaking violently. And we didn't have I mean, we don't have bear on the Eastern Shore at the time, didn't have coyotes. There was nothing really there and we could attribute that. But that's the ponies were like, we've had enough.

5:11 They took off. We didn't try and stop them because it scared the crap out of us too, so it went on home. So that was kind of the first oddity that we encountered. And then if we flashed forward to like nineteen sixty nine, I would have been about thirteen years old by that time we sold the ponies. I had a dirt bait. And back then there was it's a big chicken integrator on the eastern shore of Maryland for new farms, and they had in the Pokemont Forest there was like a I do only egg production. It was an experimental poultry farm that they wanted to get back out away from many other chicken houses, I mean to maintain cleanliness and all that kind of thing in what they were doing for the research. And there was a local hatchery in the town of Princess Anne, which was the nearest town where I lived, called witt and Googe Hatchery. Well back in this forest and back in the time there, if people had dead chickens that they picked up out of the poultry house, they would just have open pits and they would just throw the birds out in these open pits at the time, and turkey buzzards would come in and eat them, and you know anything that raccoons would sometimes go in there, So that was not unusual. And there was a dump like that back in the forest were Wit and Goods used to dump the old eggs there. And then Purdue Farms they had this open dump back there and there were

6:45 creatures seen. As a matter of fact, it made quite a stir in town at the time, and they called them to aid people. And like I said, going on at sixty nine, well I was thirteen and heard all this. Well, me and Buddy Mine we got our dirt bakes and rode through there because we knew exactly what the place was back in that forest. We rode back. We didn't see any of the eight people, but around the perimeter, like coming out of the swampy woods, you know, the woods itself, we did find footprints and the footprint it was like sixteen seventeen inches long, I mean it looked like a human footprint, just larger. And then we found a couple of smaller ones at maybe thirteen inches something like that in the area. And at the time being that old. We didn't know what bigfoot was, I mean, nothing like that. It was just weird and we kind of thought, well, okay, maybe it's just weird people out here.

7:49 Who knows. But I do know that there was a flap going on in town at that time and a number of people went out and supposedly saw these things. We'll go out there at night and see them in the light of their cars they pull up and all that. I was there during the day. Uh, and so I didn't get to see anything there. Alan real quick, do you s do you remember anything about how people were describing the egg people. It was there is two different Some of the ad people they described them as, you know, beings coming up with like wladies fucking egg shaped heads, which I'm assuming is with account for the sagigal crest you know, on these things. But then a lot of them also described Bigfoot looking like creatures, you know, tall, hairy, humanoid like individuals.

8:45 But the local term just when they said aid people because of the egg dump, that's what kind of stuck. That's the moniker that everybody used in the area was the aig people. Okay, that makes that makes sense. And then when you had these pits of dead chickens. Approximately how many dead chickens were being thrown out there? Are we talking like hundreds or just a few? Oh yeah, it could be one hundreds some of these poultry houses. And I don't know if you or your listeners were familiar with how they grow chickens poultry houses, but some of these poultry houses would contain anywhere from twenty to twenty five thousand, you know, twenty thousand to twenty five thousand chickens. So it was not unusual to come up with anywhere from maybe ten to fifteen dead chickens a day during an eight week period that they would dumping these pits. And some of these pet you know, farms, had multiple poultry houses like this. So yeah, I mean it was it could be dead chickens in the hundreds. Okay, we got down into one of these things on to July and August day, you definitely knew that, you know, something was there going on. But yeah, that's anymore. I think they use incinerators and they just burn them down.

10:04 They don't have the open pits anymore as far as they understand. Now, Okay, thank you, feel free to continue. Okay, next back up into like the next year in the nineteen seventies, And this is just anecdotal, but I was like fourteen years old, and there is a place down in Somerset County, the lower part of Somerset County called Crisfield. It's a little town on you know the river, I want to say, it's they had of Essex River down there, and there is a place that a bigfoot was supposedly seen. And the area which I find interesting was the area was Apes Whole Creek right off of Apes Whole Road down in Crisfield. And it's just that's just like you know eight Mountain that you see and all that. I just wonder where the eights whole name came from. But there have been bigfoot sightings down on aps Whole Creek in Somerset County down there. Just you know, that's another thing that just kind of went forward that I heard about. Growing up, I lived in an area called West post Office and the reason it was four miles outside of Prince's Inn and there was a man named West that had a post office out there, hence

11:37 the name. So it was West post Office Road, which was the road that I lived on when I grew up, and when I first got married in nineteen seventy four, which was also the year I graduated from high school, there was supposedly a big foot sighting on West Post Office Road that was like a road crossing back in that area, which I found interesting because again that was my stomping ground, that's where we went all the time. And then again in nineteen seventy six there was another sighting out there in West Post Office similar type thing. Now, in nineteen seventy six, my parents had a convenience store on Route thirteen right outside the town of Princess Anne on the Highway, and I had gone in there one Saturday morning. I worked for my parents at the time in that store, and I had gone in and opened the store. I'd gone in early opened the store. My mom and dad came to relieve me, just you know, like nine forty five something like that. I went home and got home shortly just a little bit after ten am at my parents' place where I was living, got out of the car, and at the time this would have been like late August last week, I was first

13:10 week of September. I remember, because the Maryland State Fair was going on up Intomonium, and all our neighbors had kids with dairy cattle and pigs and that kind of stuff. They were all showing them. There was no one home in that in our neighborhood at the time. When I got out there, in that little community we had, I was alone. There were nobody else was around because most all of them were up at the state fair up in Timonium. Well, I got out of my car in the driveway and I heard this moaning coming from the woods about a half mile would have been to the west of us. And I had never heard anything like that before. And like I say, we didn't have kyutes there.

14:00 We had owls. I mean, I've heard a screech, owl, whodels, you know. It was nothing like that. And it was, I mean dogs howling sometimes, but it didn't even sound like a dog's howl. And it was undulating. It would go up and down, and I'm like it just not I'm not doing it justice. One of the closest things I've heard is if you've ever heard the Ohio how that's online, it was very similar to that. There was another and I cannot remember for where it was, but I heard on another Bigfoot program like almost a year ago some recordings, and one of those recordings sounded identical, and I cannot, for the life of me find that.

14:57 But it was like I told my wife that my first wife has passed away and I got remarried a year ago. I told her that that's exactly that's what I heard, that moaning, you know, roar light thing. So that I sat out on our front steps, on our front porch, and I listened. And what got me was you would think something, would you know, Oh, you would hear the breath intake, and then it would start again. This was continuous. I never it never stopped. It was just to the point, Okay, maybe it's a recording or something, you know, but it was coming from the woods a half mile to the west of me. So after about an hour listening to it, I've got to see what this is. So I started walking down the road. I walked down to my our next door neighbor's house, which was a half mile away. They had two huge rick pillars on either side of their driveway, so I walked down.

16:04 There was kind of standing on the road in between where there's two pillars were for their driveway, looking to the south to the woodsline, and the woods was about maybe eighty yards from the road is where that little piece of woods jutted out, and it was coming from that direction. So I'm looking trying to see what's there. And almost as soon as I stopped and looked at the woods and trying to figure out what was what, the moaning stopped. So I'm like, okay, that's just I keep looking and about I don't know, maybe forty five fifty yards back in the woods there was a couple of maple trees that were I'm going to say, I mean forty feet tall, something like that, you know, slim maples that come up. All of a sudden just started violently shaky, I mean back and forth shaking. There was no wind that day, but shaking so hard back there, I could hear the leaves going roush roush rush as they were going through the air. You're just crazy, shake you.

17:20 I mean, something had to be incredibly strong to just you know, shaking it. And I there was enough underbrush I could not see what was doing it. And as then the shaking it went and it stopped, and all of a sudden, I hear this roaring scream. I mean the intensity was crazy. And I know it's a cliche like, oh I felt it in my chest, but I felt it him. I mean, it's like that thing just went through you and just vibrated this I have never heard anything the volume and just like oh it up and then ended up, you know, roar, and ended up in this high pitched scream when it stopped, and then the trees started going crazy again. Well, I'm a half mile from home, stand there nobody around. You know. It freaked me out, so I took off. I started running home.

18:20 I ran about twenty yards and there realized, okay, I want to turn my back, so I kind of went there and then I kind of crab walked his vesse as I could keep in my eye to make sure nothing was following me. Got back home, and I mean I was shaking. Sat on the front porch again, and it and then as soon as I got maybe fifty yards away, the tree stopped shaking, and then that moaning started again. And it continued until just you know, about two o'clock or so. When my mom came home from the store that afternoon, she got out of the car. I'm sitting on the front steps. She gets out of the car standing there before she shut the car door.

19:02 She stopped and she turned and looked down towards wood was down there, looked back at me, she said, what in the world is that noise? I don't know, but it's been going on ever since I got home at ten. I don't know if when it started before that, so I outlined everything for She stayed out there and listened to it for another five minutes and then shrugged and went inside, and then about fifteen minutes later it stopped. Never heard it again in my life. I had never heard it before that, never heard it after that. Just bizarre. But whatever it was, I mean, if that was spooky for not seeing anything again, what can shape trees like that?

19:50 And I'm figuring, okay, it can't be a recording because it quit, did other things and then started again, So I don't know, you know, it's that was just bizarre to me. Allan, That's that's really intense. Would any of your neighbors share, you know, things like that that they experienced as well, or do you think it was a one off situation for the area. I know because I lived there until ninety six when I moved out here to Kansas and again, there was nobody there and my wife, my mom, and dad unfortunately have passed away, so my mom can't attribute it to it.

20:35 But I mean, it's never happened since I know of I don't know. I know that some of the neighbors that were there, well, I mean that's been some time ago, uh are gone. Now I know that I'm going to talk about my neighbors lived across the road. I think he has since passed away. So I don't know of anybody that you know, could corroborate that right now, because like I say, when I got home, I was the only one there until my mom showed up, and then once it stopped, I never did hear that again, that kind of thing. So I don't know. I mean, it's something you could check. If I get back to Maryland, I may just kind of go back there and talk to them. I don't know. I don't know what to tell you on that one, Jeremiah, But back again in that same neighborhood, because that was in like I say, seventy six, and nothing really happened, you know, until again, like nineteen eighty one. It's like five years later, I had gotten married, built a house right next door to my i'm a dad's place just to the west of them, and they dated me some land on there and my

22:09 wife and I was a summer evening, I want to say it was in July, was hot, and my wife and I were just a beautiful night though went out. We're sitting on the front steps of our house. There was about eleven PM, I want to say, like a Friday night, and we hear across from us in the woods directly to the south, and John had a poultry house. There was a big field poultry house, and then kind of woods beyond that, and we heard from the woods, which the woods from us would have been not a half mile away, I guess, something like that, back to the south come and it sounded like a woman being murdered.

23:06 I mean, just chilling screams. And you would hear it in one area, and then you would hear you know, off to the woods, off to like the east, and another way. We ended up kind of piecing together whatever was doing it. It was coming from three different areas. Back in there, something with you know, was screaming, something else's scream and so forth, and I mean, the only way I can describe it, it sounded like a woman scream that was being murdered. I'm just very loud. Again, it was a half mile away, but it sounded like it was like ten feet in front of it. It was just again the volume was incredible on what that was.

23:50 And it went on. That screaming went off for like a couple hours, meaning we sat outside and listened to it. It went off for a couple of hours and then it finally stopped. And my wife at the time, she was from princes Anne. She asked me, she goes, what in the world was that. I don't know. I've lived here my entire life. I've never heard anything like that before, you know, screaming like that. So about a couple of weeks later it started again about the same time. At night, we got out there and started hearing that thing again going off. It didn't last as long this time. And I want to say, this is like a Saturday night or something when we heard it again, but the same thing sounded like, well, I'm being murdered, you know. Back in there. Well, I went over that the people that used to live there had retired the farm, sold it and sold it to this other guy that was from city and I went over and was talking to us, do you have any idea with that? What? The next morning and asked him do you have any idea what in the world that was? And he's like, oh, I think it's birds meeting. Like, okay, I've never heard men meeting birds at night before. Number one and number two, I've lived here all my life, I've never heard that before.

25:21 If it was birds or something, I'm sure I would have heard that, but I didn't. That's just it sounds bizarre. And then he was telling me that, he goes, yeah, well it's weird. And I said, well, have you noticed anything else weird going on? And he goes, well, yeah, there's some stuff. So I walked back. He had in the back part of his farm, back by a backfield by woods, there was like a livestock pond that was in the south west corner the property that was only about twenty feet or so from the woodland. And we walked back and he goes, yeah, I found this the other day and it was like a button buck deer corpse, you know, laying out there, and you know, like the front left forequarter was ripped off of the things, so it only had three legs something off and the neck was broken, and he's like, yeah, I think this must have been hit by a car. Okay, you're a half mile from the road back here. I can't imagine a buck getting this far on three legs with a broken neck.

26:40 That doesn't make sense. And it was laying right down there by this pond. The other thing that was unusual about it was no buzzards had hit it. And where we are again this they would put the dead chicken. I mean buzz We had buzzards everywhere feeding on the carrying of these chickens and so forth. He had a pit, you know, he had that stuff too, and that thing. He said, yeah, I found this like a week ago, and no, but nothing else had gone there to scavenge on it, which I found odd. And then he was telling me that we had this Minokan watershed. It was tax ditches in the area which it would drain the farmland run out and run to the Minochan River because it is so low and kind of swampy areas on the eastern shore of Maryland there that they put this thing in when I was just a kid, put all these tax ditches in to help drain the farmland. To make it, you know, more productive. Well doing that. I mean we have seen river odders would swim up, come down these ditches and all and muskrat would be there well at the time, muskrat pelts and the meat, I mean the meat was a delicacy back there, and people would trap muskrats going ditch. You do that well. He was advertired. He was a disabled vet and he trapped

28:11 muskrats in the ditches there, and he used to go out about ten o'clock at night was the last time he would go check his muskrat traps. And he used to carry just a little twenty two pistol with him that if he had to dispatch a muskrat, that knew he could do that well. He said he was out one night and this was during that same kind of time frame, and said he was the furthest ditch down from his house to the east, right before a woods line that j I Willson big timber company in that woods there. He was down in the ditch or it was going over there, got down in the ditch and the ditches are deep. I mean they are some pretty good sized ditches that drained the thing out to the point where you kind of the bank is so high on this ditch you kind of had to get on your butt and scoot down because I mean the bottom where the ditch bottom was could maybe be like six feet down for the bank. So we're talking some serious ditches. Well, he had got down there. The water was down in this ditch, so there was a slight bank before you hit the water. So he got down, was going to attend to his last trap, so he got slid down the ditch, was bending over the trap to fix it.

29:37 I don't remember. I think he said there was sprung, that there was nothing in it. Said about that time he noticed something, heard a noise to his right, and by the time I looked over there, he saw something about thirty feet away down like a dark blob come up and turn because he was standing between whatever this was in the woodline, and said, came charging down that ditch bank you know, right past you know, came by and knocked him over and kept on going up and into the woods. And he said he had no idea what it was. And he I said, well was that happened?

30:25 You know? He said, But what I did do is I stopped checking these traps after dark and now when I go check them, I carry a forty four with me along with my twenty two. So he said that apparently it just you know, freaked him out back there. So that happened, and that was right across the street from where I lived. And after that nothing, I mean again, we didn't hear that screaming sound anymore. And I don't know if he didn't say anything or if it was stuff that have to night, But nothing else in our area that I hear was attributed to that part of it right there. But I said earlier, I would go to the Pokemoke State Forest. I used to turkey hunt and squirrel hunt back in the state forest from oh my gosh, as a kid right on up until I moved out here to Kansas in nineteen ninety six. And going out in that Pokemoke State Forest, it's on a thing called Old Furnace Road back in through there, and sometimes i'd go back your squirrel hunting, and you see that you weren't supposed to drive a vehicle on those fire roads, So hunters would park right on Old furnitre uit and walk back in if they weren't hunting. And many many times, as I would go back there to hunt.

31:57 I was the only car that I mean, I was basically, by myself, the only person there within miles of anything going back in this state forest ground. And I would walk back in and there was I mean, I had certain places that I really liked to go, and sometimes i'd be back in their score hunting and I would hear knocks and not unusual the farmers if you ever had if they had a disc, sometimes a disc because of the ground, the very moist ground that we have, would clog up and the spaces between the disc gangs would fill up with dirt and farmers would get there and they'd have to beat them. And you hear this, don't you know, knocking sound as they're clearing these disc gangs out. I would be back humming in the woods and I heard that, and I just a trail. Oh okay, that's a farmer clearing out the disc game. And it was only after about a half dozen different times hearing that that it finally occurred to me, Well, wait a minute.

33:04 They do this generally in the spring, when they're is tilling season going on, is when they do this. Right now we're talking, you know, October November they're not doing that. They're not banging, they're not using these things. And I'm in the middle of the state forest. There's not a feel for miles away from me. So and at the time I was not aware of you know, bigfoot, tree, this, that or the other. But you would just hear these knocks and I didn't think too much of it. You would hear like one knock here and then another knock, and you know, just naive that. I was, Okay, it's not bothering. I didn't pay much attention to it. And you would sometimes be going back there and I would hear whistles. And a bird can whistle, they do that kind of thing, but where a bird is like or you know, making some kind of a melodic whistle, this was more. It was like a monotone whistle, like a type thing, which just seemed odd. But again, out well, maybe it's who knows, you know, maybe it's a bird not an ornithologist. I don't know, So I didn't put too much stock in that either. But I would hear whistles, and then if I finally pieced together, ok, okay, when

34:36 I went down a certain fire road in this state forest, I might hear whistles. If I went another one, I didn't. I don't know, you know, if that was a territory thing or what. There was another area that if I walked back in I would get There was a little ditch that I would cross going back, and I mean we're talking. I'd sometimes be half mile three quarters a mile back, you know, in the woods, and I would steal hunt. I would walk down these fire roots, squirrel hunting. And there was one particular area that I would get to and I would say probably forty percent of the time when I would cross this ditch, the sound in the fort would stop. You would hear squirrels, you would hear birds chirping. I mean even you didn't even hear the sound of insects buzzing. But I would get back in there and this feeling of creepiness would just come over me. And I've always felt like, Okay, something's watching me.

35:46 And invariably I don't have some senses left over from back in the day as humans, but I would always be drawn to a certain area and I'm like, whatever it is is over there, there's something over there watching me. Well, a lot of I just okay, I'll just sit here, be quiet for a half hour. Maybe I smooked something, so I'll just stand there and try to let the woods come back to normal. And nothing, I mean, it just stayed silent, and it got to the point where I finally felt so uncomfortable that I'm like, well, I'd start walking back, and as soon as I crossed that little ditch again and got back, the birds was starting.

36:34 You know, everything would be normal, and I'm like, and that didn't happen every time. Like I said, sixty percent of the time, I could still hunt back there and be fine, I've killed squirrels out, You're not an issue. But again, forty percent this would happen. And since it didn't happen every time, I would keep going back there and just you know, kind of test waters and if it felt off, I'm like, okay, fine, I'm not going back there. If everything seemed normal, I would go on and do my thing. So, you know, found that and then you know, I went down a different way one I normally didn't go down. One day and in the v of a tree there was it had started to rock, but there was half of a deer carcass in the v of this tree. Now it was probably six feet up in the airs where the cross of this tree went up and this thing was drooped. There was a dough drooped out here to the front. And I went around the bay and the back half from the like the shoulders was gone. It was just the front half kind of set in this tree, front legs, and then the head and neck kind of folded over the front lege in this tree. Like, what in the world does that?

38:07 You know? I didn't know if well, maybe the tree, you know, the deer jumped up in the tree and got hung up and rotted, you know something. So I looked at the base of the tree to see, okay, did the back half fall in her bones? Dug around? Nothing. It was just the front half of that deer in a cross of that tree. What does that? You know? What could have caused that? I don't know. So that's kind of some of the things that happened there. And then in nineteen eighty nine, I had by that time, I had three little boys, get married and had three kids, and sometimes we would take the kids up to the movies up in Salisbury, Maryland, and come home and my wife would shot them movie theater. Who went to was at a strip mall or not strip mall, but a a large mall, and we I would take the kids to the movies while she would shot, and then we grabbed a bike to eat light and then head home. Well, this one particular night, I want to say it was in the fall. We'd been to the movies, saw eight shows.

39:22 She had been shopping and it was like ten thirty quarter to eleven something like that at night where I'm coming home and through that forest coming back out of Fruitland, Maryland bikers. A thing is called meadow Bridge Road. At the time from well, there was a large stretch of woods that was uninhaby. I mean it was there was nothing there. We used to own a farm right on the would have been the south edge, I guess of that were meadow Bridge Roots started from Friendship Church back up there. We had one hundred acre farm right there, and then from that point all through for I want to say five or six miles or more, there's nohow it was just woods. Road went through the woods. Well, this particular evening, as we were coming home, it was like a full moon, but there's clouds over it getting starting to get a little bit chillier. So we had some fog coming in. So I was coming home. I had three little boys in the back, my wife with me.

40:38 We're coming home. I come around down Meadowridge Road and I hit this stretch of woods and there was a curve on it. And as I'm coming up, you know, because I've got low beings on because of the fog, I need to make sure and I'm not going real quick again because of the fog, and I got my kids with me. Well, I see like reflectors in my headlights. Well that's odd. I mean, I've driven this route hundreds not thousands of times. I don't remember them. And as I get up closer, I realized, okay, wait a minute, I'm there. As the moon would peek out of clouds periodically and it would kind of illuminated a little bit more help out. And as I thought I'm creeping up, then I realized, wait a minute, what is that. There's something on the side of the road. And at first I didn't know if it was deer or what. But the closer I got, I realized, well, that looks like, you know, humanoid something right there. And I thought I see something down like on the ground, and I thought maybe it was a car accident, so started slowing down.

41:52 And as I get up and I'm realizing that the shine I thought was reflectors. I'm thinking, oh, that must be somebody there, and it's reflecting off their glasses. They must be wearing glasses. So I rolled the window down and I'm kind of coming up to see him, and I stopped and I probably was not six feet away from them, and there is a ditch a swale that goes down between the woods right there and the side of the road, and I kind of hangled over towards that side of the road, which in rest respect was not the smartest thing because there was a curve right there.

42:32 But I thought something, you know, so I pulled over all the window down and I'm asking, hey, is everything okay? You guys need help? And as I'm looking, the moon peeked out again up and I'm like, what am I You know, I realized, okay, this is not people I'm talking to. So the one was laid down on the bank would have been the far bank of the swale away from me, and was on like right hip, kind of laying on the ground supporting their body with their like their right arm up, you know, kind of reclining like you would see in something like clear Patch would doing some of the movies. You see that reclining position she would do. So that was like that. The other one had been stooped over and was at the time I thought it was only like six foot tall. I thought it was a person. Well, when I stopped the reclining, was looking at me, looked over at the other one and made this like mewing sound like it almost like a cat, just this little like rimpering mewing sound. As I'm assuming it was a female, I don't know, looked for me, looked up at one standing. The one stink

44:03 came up, stood all the way and was eight eight and a half feet tall, and I realized I was standing in the swale and it was up. I had to look up from the car at him. I'm assuming to him. I couldn't tell because it was dark, I mean their faces it was, but I could see like one solid color just huge. I mean, it realized, oh my god, these things are immense, and it looked it never took it and when I saw it was looking at me, it never stopped looking at me. From the whole time it stood up full of heart. You know, and when that one knew at it, this one just kind of just grunted and reached out left arm towards the car.

44:56 And I mean it was all because I my window down if it had leaned, and it could have snatched me right out when it was that close. But it came in and I'm just seeing this huge hand and I mean the hand looked like it was the size of a baseball man. I mean it was huge coming over, but five finger, I mean a hand coming over. And then I could see hang down off the arm hair that was like four or five inches long, just kind of hang as it reached over, and I was shocked and I'm realized, Okay, I didn't really feel fear at the time, but I was just all struck. And then it hit me, wait a minute, you got your wife and three kids in the back of you know, you need to get out of here. So I just without taking me I just kind of pulled off and went on drove on home and got there. And we did say that by way when we this week until we got home and then we're like, what was that? And she's like, I don't know. And then we were trying to you know, was it somebody too. We were trying to just figure out what in the world we had just seen. But I know, I don't know. I mean, was it somebody in the suit? I doubt it. I mean,

46:29 who would be there and think somebody's going to come along that, especially you know, time and night in the fog. I don't know. But my wife was talking to some friend of hers about it, maybe a month or two months after that, and the friends like, where does this happen? So she told her and her friend was like, well, my son, they went out in that area because there's a little clearing in the woods. They went out there and they were partying, would go out and like have a beer, bust and that kind of thing, take pickoffs back there. Talking, she said, they were out there, I wanted to say, like a month or just prior to that, in the summertime, because weird came out there in the fall, and they'd been back there and something had stayed in the woods and was circain. They could hear's something big walking through crunching around them the clearing they were in, and then finally they got headlights up and looked and saw this huge humanoid looking thing. They said was like eight feet tall, go around a dark scared the crap out of these kids. They take off and she's like, yeah, they saw. They don't know what it was they saw, but it freaked them out when that happened. So you know, they're that kind of a thing there, because that was pretty much the same. That was within like a mile

48:00 of where I had seen these things on the side of the road. Have you ever seen anything else that that looks like what you saw that day? I mean, that's really weird. Yeah. Uh well, like I said, I had another sighting out here in Kansas, but and I wish that it. It was so dark. All I could see was like a dark face. I couldn't see a lot of features because it was that night the moon was going in our cloudset. The one time I did get to see it with the fog, I can't get spacific. It was just dark colored, you know. And maybe it was two huge people in dark coverall I don't think so, because I saw hair coming up, I mean, and the way they moved it just and I guess I was six feet away from them, That's what I could. Yeah, I mean, it was it was bizarre, and why the one I didn't know if when I have the same I keep saying she because the mewing sound, if maybe something had happened, if she maybe got hit by a car. It was laying there. I don't know why one would be reclining right there and the other one had been bent down, like maybe it was lying there too. Maybe they were resting, and then it was getting up when it heard me coming.

49:26 Maybe I don't know, but it just when I pulled up, they were both kind of looking at me, and, like I say, the one that was reclined turned and looked at the other one and made that little mewing sound, and it didn't look at it. It kept focused on me and just did that grunt and reached out towards the car. And I looked at that. That's what I'm like, Okay, I gotta get so. Yeah, I've never seen anything like that back there before. That was new, but I guess it was. I didn't really fear feel or feel fear at the time. Just I'm amazement. I mean, I'm trying to piece together what I see. You know, what I'm seeing here, and it doesn't make any sense. I mean, you see these things. I don't think anybody's ever really prepared when you come and when you see one of these things, because there's nothing really that you can do to prepare yourself for that, because it is just the size is so amazing. And I mean, you know, you hear grow, Oh, these things aren't supposed to exist, but yet there's standing right in front of you, you know kind of a thing. So I thought, well, maybe you

50:57 know that that was a one off kind of a deal. Well as he moved out to Kansas in ninety six, so I'm out here, and I mean, you only hear about, okay, you know, the deal out in Northwest America, out that way, the Pacific Northwest. Nobody really expects Bigfoot to be on East coast anywhere. I certainly did not expect him to be in Kansas, you know, moved out here because we don't have the woods here that we had back in Maryland. But I was I'm retired. I was a service manager HVC. I've been the HVAC refrigeration trade and controls HVC controls, and I worked for a contractor up in Wichita. And as I was coming home, I would come home through you know, the countryside, and there was one spot I would come down and it's right. It's near a little area called Beaver Creek that comes down through a county road and big fields there. And I would come that way every day from work and always look there because I would always see like turkey in the field or deer something like that. The whole time. I never ever saw a human in there. I never saw the farmer because they would have crops there sometimes. I never saw them Harvard. I never saw a human being in that area.

52:29 But and this road comes down Cali three to California, mean it dead ends into this thing. But there's a gravel road that goes from that Tea intersection and goes on back to well, they call it the ark Kansas River here. Anywhere else in the free world it would be the Arkansas River, so you know, but that goes back to the river, so there's nothing back there. It just goes back into overgrown and then the river right back there. I came home that was near I want to say it like January second, twenty fourteen, something like that. Came home, was coming home early to boss let us go early because after the first of the year, and it was I want to say two thirty three o'clock in the Arikan something like that. Still daylate, pretty day, kind of chilly, but pretty day, a little bit of breeze blowing. And as I got down there, I always looked towards it to see if there was deer or turkey anything there. This time, I come up to the stop sign and I look and I see something. There's a woods on either side, little stand of trees on each side of this gravel road that comes up to this field by where Beaver Creek countsruit. And I saw a final aft saw something in that road, and I'm like, what in the world. I mean, it was taking up half the width of the road and was huge, and

54:03 at first I thought, oh my god, this is the first person. You know, it's somebody on a horse. Then I'm looking at and I'm sitting there, and because it was kind of in the shadows with the trees of all the leaves, well the leaves were got there, some old one dead was hanging there, but a little bit of shadows from the trees and some cedar trees, that kind of stuff. So I'm looking at it, and the more I looked at it, I thought, this is odd because it's all one color that I'm seeing right there, all kind of dark, and I mean now is because it's coming towards me, Like, okay, it doesn't really look like somebody on a horse. And the width of it and the height of it, it was huge and layer I mean it was from where it was from me was probably four hundred yards away, so that'll give you an idea of the distance. And this thing was huge from that far away. So I'm sitting there watching it and it's coming towards me, and I am trying to puzzle out what in the world I am looking at.

55:16 And then somebody came up behind me and tapped the horn, and I really, hell crap them, you know. So I went to the left and turned and went maybe a half mile and unscrew this, I turn around. I got to see what that is. So I go back again, and this time I should have just pulled a cross from there into that gravel road. I wasn't even thinking about that at the time, but I go back this time and I do. I turned into that gravel road and I stopped, and whatever it was had come out of the road by this time. Around the corner of that little woods was in the field and was walking back in the field, back towards the river where it kind of it had come from, but in the field this time, and now I'm seeing it and I'm like, okay, whatever, it's on two legs. It is freaking immense. And what was really odd was I'm seeing this thing it was back in now. When it was there in the sunshine that I'm seeing it, it was kind of like a cinnamon color, right, it was dark in the shade back there, but it was like a cinema color. But as I'm looking at it, the color it's underlaying. It's like variegated, and I'm like, what in the world, Almost like you know neon size where they fly. This thing was flying up and down the body of this thing, and it finally hit me. It reminds you if you see wind

56:49 as it's blown through a wheat field, you see the lighter color and then the darker stalk you know, out You get that color variation as the wind blows through. And it hit me, Okay, it's the hair. The wind is blowing that hair, and I'm seeing the color and then the undercolor is the hair's being blown, and that's why it's up and down as the wind things are blowing, you know, t wind tendrils, this thing up and down. That's why it's changing color. And I don't you know what is this because it's again just one big blob with that, you know. And I mean you can see the thing. It looked like it was like five feet wide.

57:31 It had to be ten to twelve feet tall. I mean was huge. And I'd sat there and watched it, and it was making ground quick, I mean huge stride. Wasn't running just walk, you know, but the strides it was taking. It was covering ground fast. And within probably ten minutes while I don't even know this, maybe eight minutes, hit it golf. From there, I lost it in the trees again. It went angled back into trees and went off to wherever it was going. But I looked at that and still I what the heck. I go home and I'm telling him, I said, I think I just saw a bigfoot, And he's telling my wife and she's like, why didn't you take a picture of it? You got a camera right on your phone. It's one of those things.

58:26 I was so all struck. It never even occurred to me to pull that out to try and take a picture of it, and I'm like, crap, you know, should have but didn't because I just once you finally realize that, the shock is like, holy Michael, you know saw one of these things again? You know, to me, it was all again, because I'm pretty sure I saw one or two of them, you know, in Maryland. And so I talked to one of the local guys here they've got a cryptis thing, and was let him out there, told him about the encounter and he was telling me, he says, yeah, twenty fourteen, in November of that year, so it would have been after you know, my saying because I didn't tell him till like a year or so ago. And he said he had seen one cross the road only a half mile from where I saw that there in November of twenty fourteen. So apparently whatever is hanging in that area running the river up and down in there, and that's you know, that's that's been it so far.

59:44 You know, I haven't seen anything since. But that's kind of my story, Jeremiah, from as a as a kid to a senior. Now, that's kind of some of the weird stuff that's happened to me. Wow, Alan, those are some some wild wild accounts, and I mean, man, that area in eastern Maryland, that Pokemoke area, that needs to be looked more into, or maybe I just haven't heard of it, because it sounds like there were other weird things happening in that area too, right. Yes, yeah, I mean there's all I mean, there are all kinds of folklore, ghost stories that you can get on there. There's a cemetery back in there that I mean, it's a cemetery, so there are people still in the do there and they get weird things happened in the cemetery, so there's paranormal stuff. There are bigfoot sightings there. There are supposedly dog man sightings, and between you and me, I'm just as glad I did not run into one of them. But in that area there's supposed to be somewhat problem from what I understand, in some dam man stuff back there. But yes, definitely the Pokemokee State Forest, I gotta say it's it's an area of high strangeness all back and through there. So yeah, it definitely needs

1:01:14 to be looked into some more. I hope some uh maybe some people listening to this will come forward with other things that they've experienced in the area. But Alan, thank you so much for coming on the show. I mean, you're sharing an entire lifetime of just really weird stuff from eastern Maryland and also more recently Kansas. And thank you for coming on the show. You're always welcome to reach out if anything else weird comes across your plate. But I appreciate you chatting today, sir. Well, thank you for having me. And definitely, yeah, I keep looking around now because of what I have seen.

1:01:57 I'm always on the lookout. If I do see anything else, I will definitely let you know. Just want to take a minute to say thank you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast. Alan's story is one of the rare ones that spans generations, from ponies and fire roads in the Pokemoke Forest to the chilling moment when a hand reached toward him through the fog. A huge thanks to Alan for sharing decades of encounters from the Eastern Shore to Kansas, and for reminding us that sometimes what out there finds us. If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe to us on YouTube, hit the bell so you don't miss the next mystery, and share this one with a friend who's in a Bigfoot Maryland or just a good mystery in the woods. If you're listening on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, follow the show and consider it leaving a quick review. It helps new listeners discover what we've got going on here. And if you've had your own bigfoot encounter, especially in Maryland, Kansas or anywhere in between, I'd love to hear about it, so please shoot me an email at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com, and also make sure to mark your calendars.

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