Aug. 18, 2025

Eight Feet of Fury: Oregon’s Sasquatch Strikes

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Season 1

What happens when a group of friends sneaks past locked gates into one of Oregon’s most mysterious forests — and ends up face-to-face with something that isn’t supposed to exist? In this chilling episode, we sit down with Cam, a lifelong local of the Molalla region, to hear his firsthand account of a December 2023 camping trip gone horribly wrong. From eerie “hoo” calls in the treetops and snapping branches closing in, to a massive dog-like predator charging out of the darkness, this night spiraled into something no one could explain. Cam also reveals strange footprints, portal-like anomalies near ancient waterfalls, and centuries-old Native legends of giants, stick people, and buried bones sent to the Smithsonian. You’ll hear stories stretching from Point Adams to Tillamook, woven with history, mystery, and moments of pure terror.

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You're listening in Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron Tonight's

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account is from a lifelong Oregon local who spent years

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exploring the back roads in waterfalls of Malala. This area

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is known for Bigfoot experiences. It's incredibly known for it

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faint mumbling in the night and ends with something much

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much more visceral. What happened between these moments is something

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you won't forget. And this is the story of Cam

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and the night the forest decided they were not welcome there.

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So stay with us, all right, big for Society. I've

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got the privilege of talking to Cam today. Cam is

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an individual who's a listener of the show. I'm looking

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forward to hearing what Cam has to share today about

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this particular area of Oregon. But welcome to the show. Cam.

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How are you doing today? I'm doing all right, awesome, awesome. Yeah,

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it's a beautiful day talking to people about Bigfoot and

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other things. And you know, feel freak to take us

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back as far as you need to to when all

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this weird stuff started happening to you. And we'll be

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right there along with you.

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All right, Thank you, Jeremiah. So Ever since I was

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little I've grown up in the woods, driving around and exploring.

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My point being, I know a lot of the area there.

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Although there are miles of untraversed land, some of us

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will never see. The sense of mystery and wonder mixes

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with the realistic expectations of an everyday quote unquote normal life.

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That's how life used to be for me. Normal. The

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woods were green and cheerful, with an overly peaceful feeling.

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But in the years to follow, COVID hit fires, raged

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and burned the once joyful forest. Everything had changed. Gates

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were put in place. The people in charge said they

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put these gates in place for our safety. The question

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is was it for our safety or to keep something

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secret buried in the ashes. These gates remained closed for

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about three years. It was December twenty twenty three, the

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day after Christmas. My four buddies and I, being a

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group of teenagers, had planned for five months or so

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to do this camping trip, food, drinks, and everything we

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could need. The one buddy had moved down to the coast,

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so it was running a bit behind. My brother and

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I were at our other buddy's tree farm waiting to

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start this exciting adventure. As the car pulled up, My

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brother and I piled up into the Tree Farm Buddies

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truck and we were off. That day had been kind

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of cloudy and gloomy. As we're going up the mountain,

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we had to stop and open one of the forementioned gates.

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You see the gates, they tend to be fake locked.

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So we drove through this gate and closed it behind us.

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We were enthusiastic about getting to the camp spot and

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setting up our tents. Now, the thing about this camp

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spot is I had never, and I mean never seen

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anyone else camp there before or after. This close to

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a few waterfalls that run off from the creek to

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the right, This spot, said to be an old Indian site,

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also had a gate we closed behind us. We quickly

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set up our tents and started a fire. Then the

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rains came heavy and disastrous. The tarps we had to

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cover our food had as it were little lakes over

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the top of them. We sat by the fire that

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night sharing stories and teenage drama. The next morning, as

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we woke up, everything was going well except the one

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friend from the coast was trying to sleep in. That

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wasn't going to happen on our watch. So what did

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we do. We blasted the song TikTok by Kasha. This

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didn't work all the way, so we shook his tent

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and yoed earthquake. He wasn't too happy. As per tradition,

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we tend to drive around and explore the woods, and

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we're not the type to break tradition. My brother and

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I got in the car with our buddy who drives

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a Subaru. We always see animals up there. This time

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was different. We seen a singular crow in its talons

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was a soda can. As we're driving down to our campsite,

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a singular buck walks out in front of us across

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the road. So once we got back to camp, we

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were chopping some wood and just kind of hanging out

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at the camp spot, telling more stories and listening to

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of course, more white girl music, and we were getting

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ready to start a fire. Once again, per tradition, we

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always do a night hike. So we did our hike

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and got back to camp. As we sit by the fire,

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we're listening to more white girl music Kesha, Miley, etc.

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Blaring and echoing through the valley. I'm sitting there and

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hear a faint mumbling through the music. That's how my buddies.

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They laughed at me. I told them to turn down

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the music, so they did. The faint mumbling now clear

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and coming from the tree Farm buddies truck. We grabbed

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our knives and axes and slowly walked towards the truck.

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We opened the door quickly and stepped back. A voice said,

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low battery, Please charge, low battery, please charge. It was

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a walkie talkie, and we laughed it off and went

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back to the fire. As we sat there, the tree

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farm buddy yot out Marco, expecting a polo to come back,

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and nothing. The trees around us and closed us. The

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moon was now full. The shadows danced around the ground

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and branches started breaking. As if we weren't tripped out enough,

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My brother and buddy from the coast started saying, skinwalker, skinwalker, skinwalker.

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We told them to shut up. My buddy who had

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a garment tracker with him due to no internet. As

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we looked at it, we're standing completely stationary, and the

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arrow on the garment started moving all on its own.

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I don't know if that's normal or not normal or not,

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but the arrow said we were one hundred feet off

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to the right of where we were standing, which was

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in the middle of this creek right by our camp spot,

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and so moving by itself, it was taking a weird

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looking pattern and it was in the form of a

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Christmas tree. And this was the day right after Christmas,

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so it's just kind of tripping us out. So as

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we're over by the fire, we move away from where

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we had just looked at the garment and seen that

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weird pattern on the garment, and we moved back over

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towards the fire and the tree. Farm. Buddy he was

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disappointed because he wanted to spend Christmas listening to Christmas music,

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you know, getting presents, all that kind of stuff. And

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so he's like, oh, you guys won't mind if I

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play some Christmas music, will you? And so we told

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him to go ahead, if it makes you, you know, happy,

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go ahead and listen to Christmas music. So he turns

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on his radio, all right, the speaker like the radio

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on his phone. I guess that would be his playlist.

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And the first song that comes up, it sounds joyful

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and we start listening to it, but then all of

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a sudden, the lyrics take a drastic turn. It's weird

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aws song. Called the Day Santa Went Crazy, which is

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like about Santa Claus being a serial killer. And so

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we tell him to quickly turn off, you know, the

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rabio because we're freaked out, and he accidentally turns it up.

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So now that music is just blurring louder and louder

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than before, and we're freaking out yelling at him, turn

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it off, turn it off, and he's trying to and

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finally gets a hold of being able to turn it off.

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And so we heard branches snapping off in the distance,

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and they started out kind of faint and far away,

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and we thought, okay, it's just you know, an animal

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running through the woods or whatever, except they started to

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get closer and closer towards where the fire was. And

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I know that the Native Americans have legends to talk

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about how if you stay by the fire, you're safe

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as long as there's white ash or ash around you.

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It's like a protection from what I understand, And so

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I said to all my buddies, I said, if you

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guys want to pray, now would be the perfect time.

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And so everyone started praying, hoping that everything was going

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to be all right, and the one body who owns

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the subaru. He looks at me and he says, Cam,

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I was just praying, and I asked the most high

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if there was something out here with us, if he

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would point me in the direction of that thing. And

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when I opened my eyes, I was facing this giant

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cedar tree. And so we took our flashlights and shined

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it up at the cedar tree, and there was something

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up in the tree, and all of a sudden, it

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started hooing. So we figured, oh, it's probably just an

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But after watching some of your videos, I've noticed that

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like a whooping and a hooing noise is a like

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connected to bigfoot sasquatch. And so my brother he just

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wanted to sleep. He was tired, wiped out from that day.

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And he was in the tent like, guys, just go

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to bed, and we're all chirpping out because these sticks

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keep snapping off in the distance, and it's getting louder

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and louder than before. And so it got so so

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bad to the point where if you had to go

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out and go pee, you couldn't go out without someone

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watching your back and shining a flashlight for you. Like

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we were scared of we're being watched because ever since

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the fires. It felt like there were eyes out there

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watching you. And as we're getting ready to you know,

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turn in for the night, we decided we'd stay up

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and see what else happened. And of course the branches

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were getting closer and closer the sounds of the snap,

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and we figured we can't go to bed, so we

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tore everything down that night. And this is at like

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twelve forty five in the morning, and my brother was

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so upset that we just didn't stay the night there.

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We forgot that there was this other gate that we

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had blocked for our camp spot, because there's a smaller

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gate for our camp spot, and we went and opened

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it with our knives and axes in hand, and then

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ran back to the truck in the car and all

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piled up. The truck was in behind and the car

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was in front, and the one tree farm buddy, he's like,

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whatever you do, do not stare into the woods. Well,

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of course I stared into the world in the darkness,

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was staring back at me. And the subaru was in front. Well,

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we had that other gate that we were behind. We

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were the only people up there, and behind this other

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gate the super's parked and the two buddies, the ones

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from the coast, and the one who owns the Subaru

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jumped out and ran to go open the gate. My

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brother in the back steat just stumbling out, like, come on, guys,

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too early in the morning for this tired and uh

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So we're driving down past the gate as fast as

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we can, and there's kind of a pull off sort

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of area. It's like a y in the road, and

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we figured we'd make a plan of what we were

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going to do because we didn't want to wake our

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parents up. This is like one in the morning now,

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and so we pull off to the spot and we

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rolled down our windows and start talking. This spot where

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it's situated, there's a straight drop off off cliff right

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on the right side of the road, and then on

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the left side of the road there's like a straight

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cliff as well, but that one goes up rather than down.

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So on the left side of the road you've got

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this cliff. It goes straight up, and there's like all

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these trees that surround the area, and then the right

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side straight drop down cliff. And as I'm sitting there

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in the truck, I see something and it's slowly coming

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up to drop down side of the cliff, the right

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side of the road, and whatever it is, it's huge.

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It's kind of blurry at first, and all of a sudden,

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as it's crossing the road, I can see it clearer.

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It's a huge dog, and its fur looks like something

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like a coyote. It's like a brownish gray with reds

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mixed in and everything. And this dog is probably about

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three feet tall, standing on all fours like it's back

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and just from its pause to its back is probably

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about three feet And this dog looks at us and

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starts running directly towards us, and so we're freaked out

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and we're like, we're not staying for this. So we

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book it out of there, and the dog chases us

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down the road. No collars that we could see. I

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don't know that it belonged to anyone. It was down

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on the side of that cliff. And so we're driving

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into town and it's kind of a smaller town, like

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ten thousand, two hundred people live here or something like that.

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I mean, there's been a little bit more than the

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past few years because we've been getting new people and

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the town's getting built up. But as we get into town,

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we decide to go to the tree farm Buddy's grandpa's shop.

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It's situated right in the center of town, and he's

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got a gate that has like a padlock. So I

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get out and I put in the combination. The super

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up pulls in behind us. Mind you, this is probably

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about one thirty one five in the morning now, and

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so we get the gate open, we pull in the

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tree farm buddy. He's got a key to the shop

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because this is grandpa's shop. And as we pull in,

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a third car out of nowhere pulls in behind us,

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and we're tripped out and we're like, okay, that's that's

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kind of weird. Well, as we get out of the

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truck in the cars, we see that this third car

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is a cop car, And so the sheriff came over

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and talked to us and he's like, you guys, do

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realize there's a curfew. And we had no idea there

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was a curfew. And he asked us what we were

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doing now, and we said we had went camping and

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we got scared and came back down to town. And

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so as he's talking with us, he says, what were

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you guys scared of? And we laughed and he laughed,

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and we said, you're never going to believe us, and

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so he said, try me. So then we proceeded to

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tell him a little bit about our story, and we

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told him we believed we had heard or seen a

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skin walker, and he laughed at us, and then he said, yeah,

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growing up out here where we were, we all grown up,

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you either seen a skinwalker or you heard one out

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in those woods. And he said that when he was

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a kid, him and his buddies had gone up camping

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and they had encountered one out there and they had

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heard it what he described as being a skin walker

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to us. And so then what the screen farm buddy

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had forgot to mention is that he believed that the

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shop that he was taking us to was haunted because

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someone had had an accident in the shop and not

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made it out. And so the cop took everyone's information

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and you know, said, if anything ends up going missing,

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we'll know who to call, and we'll tell your grandparents

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that it was you and blame it on you. So

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then when we're in the shop, there's kind of an

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eerie vibe in there because we had just heard that story.

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But we didn't think too much of that. We were

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more concerned about what we had just encountered in those woods,

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and so yeah, that's that's one of the things that

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we encountered in the woods. And that was December twenty

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sixth into the twenty seventh of twenty twenty three. So

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that same camp spot, like I said, I've never seen

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anyone camp there, and to this day, I still have

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never seen anyone camp there. In July of twenty twenty four,

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July nineteenth, my aunt had come to town and she

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wanted to go and hike. So we went to the

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falls that's close to the camp spot with her. And

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as we're driving there, she was asking and she said, so,

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do you believe in Bigfoot? And I said, I do

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believe in the possibility that he could exist. I've experienced

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a lot of crazy things, and so we got to

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talking about it and asked her if she believed, and

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she said, yes, to an extent, she believes that he

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could be real. And as we were hiking through that area,

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I make sure to always take pictures of all this stuff.

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I got pictures of the garment, and July nineteenth, that day,

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when I was getting pictures, I took it home and

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looked through my pictures and I noticed something out of

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the ordinary, and it looked like a portal, like a

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portal that had opened. And I got that on camera

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right in front of this waterfall that was supposedly an

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old Indian site. And I know that some tribes here

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in North America believe that a waterfall can be seen

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as a portal to another realm. I've also heard some

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people think that Bigfoot is interdimensional. I'm not exactly sure

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about that, but it's quite interesting. And so then I

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said it to my aunt and she was kind of skeptical,

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but she thought that was quite strange too, that we

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caught that on camera. And then September one of twenty

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twenty four, we were up in the same area. It

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was a little bit past the falls and everything, and

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past the creek, but everything up there is gravel, and

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log trucks go through, they smash up the roads and

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there's like the normal gravel that we're used to down here,

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and then there's the thicker logger gravel that they have

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up there, but nothing up there is paved. So when

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we're going up there where most weekends in the summer

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and stuff, we go up and explore things and adventure

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around and everyone in town that you meet they have

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a story where they know someone who has a story

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about weird things they encounter up here. And so September one,

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twenty twenty four, we were going up into the woods

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right above, like I said, that creek in that camp

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spot area, and there's this road that we had never

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noticed before. We had been up in this area quite

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a few times, but this road. What was off about

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it was it almost looked like it was this cement

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road or like asphalt, and so we thought that was

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kind of weird because it's in the middle of nowhere,

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and we decided to get out and check it out. Well,

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the road was all overgrown with branches and trees and

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logs and everything. We could drive a certain extent down

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this road, so we decided to the car game scratched

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up and scraped and as we're getting out of the

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car and walking down, we noticed there's that a bear

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scot and so, you know, we were cautious about it,

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but we decided to keep going and we follow this

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road to its end and then there's this big, heaping

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pile of like asphalt that's all piled up, and we're

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like Okay, that's kind of weird, like, why is the

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road just end? What would be the point in building

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it up here? And so we went to the other

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side of the asphalt and looked down, and at some

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point in time there was this huge, giant like landslide

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and it had completely torn apart the valley. We suspected

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that the road had continued, but it had been destroyed

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because of this landslide, And so we looked down in

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the valley below and we see there's probably about fourteen

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deer in that. Like it was a crazy thing to

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see because all the deer or everywhere they're running around

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except for this one that's right in the center of

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the valley. And we're looking at it and there's something

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weird about its hind quarters, like it's just off. And

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the weird thing about it was that it was just stationary.

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It wasn't moving whatsoever. And as we're staring at it,

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we're there for about fifteen minutes and it still hasn't moved,

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it hasn't blinked, it hasn't done anything. And so we thought, oh,

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maybe it's like a deer, like one of those ones

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you shoot with archery or you take your rifle and

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shoot it or whatever like a target. But we're pretty

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sure it's not a target because of where it's situated.

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It's in the middle of a valley and the only

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way down is falling, like you can't cross through or anything.

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And so I went home and researched. The name of

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the road came up on our road map like in

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our car, our GPS, and so using that, I found

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out that that road used to connect all the way

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to Sandy and that you could drive through all the

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way to Sandy. And it was just wild seeing that

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deer there and it not moving for fifteen minutes, and

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it still wasn't moving by the time we left. We

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just left fifteen minutes later because we have two dogs

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and they were freaking out and barking at it the

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whole time, and it didn't budge, whereas all the rest

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of the year they fled. They ran through the valley

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through the canyon, so anyway back to the creek spot

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and the falls. So this year we decided to go

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out May fourth with another body. It was my brother,

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another body, my mom and I and we were just

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checking up on the camp spot like we tend to

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go through our old camp spots and see what's changed

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and see what's new and everything. And we got out.

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We were walking dogs around and my brother points something

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strange out, so I go over to where he's at,

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and there's this footprint that's kind of in a muddy area,

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except the mud had all hardened, it was dry, and

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this footprint was we measured. It was four inches dug

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down into the dirt, and I tried to push my

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boot into the ground next to it, and I couldn't

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because that's how hard the dirt had like solidified. The

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mud had solidified around this thing four inches down. And

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I measured the footprint and it was fourteen inch long.

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So we thought, whatever it was, it has to be

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heavy to push down that hard because it was a

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newer looking print, but the mud was probably a week

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and a half two weeks old, so we thought it

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was kind of strange. And I've got pictures of that

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as well. The footprint, it was just off because there

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was only one print out of the whole entire area,

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and it was four inches deep and fourteen inches long.

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The way the toes are is like a really thin footprint.

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I don't know what would make a print like that.

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But it was it's just off. There was something about it.

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So we got pictures standing next to it, and that

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area up there is just off, like it's wild up there.

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There's definitely the stuff that legends are made out of

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up in those woods. And so I've been doing a

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little bit of research into like names and stuff, because

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in my opinion, names have meaning. And so I looked

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up what is the origin of the word Oregon, And

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according to the Old Spaniard maps of like the sixteen hundreds,

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they compared it to the word Patagonia, which translates to

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bigfoot or big feet, which is just mind blowing to

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me because of all the stories I've heard of people

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encountering big feet in this area, especially here in Oregon,

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and the Native Americans around here, they have legends of

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tribes that had giants were anywhere from seven to nine

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feet tall, and not just giants the people of Oregon City,

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so that would be like the Clackamis people, the Wilamite Chinook,

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all those tribes. They had talked about that squatch, but

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they have a different name for him, it's Skukum or

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Scuocum's and they said that Scucum's was anywhere from nine

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to eleven feet tall. He was huge, he was hairy.

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It's just like how Sasquatches described and like had a

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bad odor, all that kind of stuff, But that the

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Indians were fighting these creatures, and that in these fights

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they ended up burying them and their burial sites, and

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then the bones were rediscovered in the nineteen thirties and

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then sent off to the Smithsonian. Not only are they

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called spookums, but some of the people I know, the

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Nezpirs tribe and some of the ones closer to us,

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the coast people too, they call them the stick people.

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And they say when you go out in the woods,

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you have to watch out for the stick people. And

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it's just all very wild. There are a lot of

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legends in this area that get either destroyed or covered up,

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forgotten the history. Some people have forgotten the language, and

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so through that the history is not preserved. When I

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was doing some research on like Tillamuck area, so the

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day after the camping trip, I was supposed to go

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hiking with another body and we ended up going to

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Three Rocks. It's like supposedly where there's pirate treasure. It's

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got gooony stuff related to it like the real basis

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for the Gooneys movie ship from sixteen to twenty three

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called the Santo Cristos de Burgos, and the ship was

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carrying beeswax and porcelain and it was blown off course

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in sixteen twenty three when it was coming through and

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it's said to have landed somewhere in Oregon. The Class

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Up Indians they talk about how they would trade porcelain

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and beeswax to the other tribes around. But they talked

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about how when the ship crash landed, there were all

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these people that they had never seen before, and they

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would have been like Spaniards and the Spanish, except for

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one person that was on the ship that was eight

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feet tall and described as a black man. The Class

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Up Indians had never seen Spaniards or black people before

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from these accounts from the sixteen hundreds, and so they

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worshiped them like gods. And then they came in with

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all their treasure and they supposedly buried it up in

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those woods and tell them about Class Up area. So

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the day after the all the weird stuff happened to me,

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I got up at like five in the morning and

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went with a buddy to go hiking over in that area,

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and as we're going up the ridge, the one body

459
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he points out, oh, look, there's elk out out there

460
00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:51.160
by the sea, and there was a whole herd of elk,

461
00:31:51.319 --> 00:31:53.960
and he was focused on the elk, and the other

462
00:31:54.039 --> 00:31:56.200
people that were with us they were focused on the

463
00:31:56.240 --> 00:31:59.880
elk too. But I looked out out on the horizon

464
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:03.599
and I noticed what looks like a black dot, and

465
00:32:03.799 --> 00:32:08.960
so I had taken pictures of it and pointed out

466
00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:11.920
to them, and they kind of just, oh, yeah, sure,

467
00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:16.000
you know that I was kind of crazy. So I

468
00:32:16.079 --> 00:32:19.799
took a picture of that spot and I zoomed in

469
00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:24.519
and it looked like a ship, but it was like

470
00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:28.720
all torn apart. And apparently right there in that area

471
00:32:28.839 --> 00:32:36.240
there are rumors of ghost ships and legends of pirate

472
00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:40.799
ghosts and ships that have crashed. There's at least two

473
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:45.160
thousand shipwrecks right there in the Columbia Spit from the

474
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:53.240
Salmon River, right by three Rocks. And so not only that,

475
00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:58.920
but out my backyard in the field right across from me,

476
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:02.640
it's said to be an old Indian trading ground of

477
00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:05.119
the people that used to live here, and so they

478
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:07.599
would come through and trade all their stuff to the

479
00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:16.640
pioneers and the settlers who had moved here, and it's

480
00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:19.839
just crazy to think about, like, these people were here

481
00:33:20.440 --> 00:33:23.119
not that long ago, and there's no trace of them

482
00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:27.720
because their history has been forgotten. They've been sent to

483
00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:33.319
reservations all that kind of stuff. But the property just

484
00:33:33.440 --> 00:33:38.559
across from my house, there was one my mom and

485
00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:41.559
I were watching The Twilight Zone and my little brother,

486
00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:46.640
of course, he was trying to sleep and he owed

487
00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:49.279
and said, did you guys hear that? And we said,

488
00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:52.319
hear what? We're watching the Twilight Zone? What do you mean?

489
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:58.359
And he said it sounded like a rooster, like a chicken,

490
00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:03.319
a rooster. And it was twelve thirty at night when

491
00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:05.160
we were watching the Twilight Zone and we're like, what

492
00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:08.119
are you talking about. No, we didn't hear it, and

493
00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:11.199
so he said turn off the TV. And we're like,

494
00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:14.360
open the window and listen. So we opened the window,

495
00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:17.360
we turned off the TV, and we were listening outside

496
00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:22.000
and once, sure enough, once again that rooster noise. This

497
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:24.119
time we heard it though, so we went outside with

498
00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:27.519
flashlights and I was standing on our porch, which is

499
00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:31.960
probably about three feet off the ground, and I'm six

500
00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:36.840
foot four. So as I'm standing on the porch, I

501
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:39.760
look out in the field and there's something standing there.

502
00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:43.079
Whatever it was, it was probably making this noise and

503
00:34:43.239 --> 00:34:46.800
it was up to my shoulder, so that would put

504
00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:49.440
it if that would put me at nine to four,

505
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:53.159
so that would put it at like eight feet. Whatever

506
00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:55.599
it was, it's eyes. I could see they were glowing.

507
00:34:55.800 --> 00:34:58.719
I wasn't able to get a picture of that, but

508
00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:01.880
I did see something else there in this old Indian

509
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:07.320
trading trading ground, and it was it was crazy to

510
00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:08.320
witness that.

511
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:12.880
Cam. Yeah, you have been through a lot, man, Wow,

512
00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:16.800
this is this is absolutely incredible. What color do you

513
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:18.679
remember what color the glowing eyes were?

514
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:26.199
If I remember correctly, they were like a yellowish kind

515
00:35:26.280 --> 00:35:33.440
of greenish color, like like a neon kind of yellow

516
00:35:33.840 --> 00:35:34.599
green color.

517
00:35:35.159 --> 00:35:36.960
Have you ever gone out to that field to see

518
00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:39.960
if there's any tracks or anything weird out there? Is

519
00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:43.880
it really a spot where you can't just walk into.

520
00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:48.719
I can walk into it. I haven't seen any prints

521
00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:55.599
as of yet, but now the neighbors are building on it,

522
00:35:55.960 --> 00:35:58.039
so they've got a new driveway and they've got a

523
00:35:58.119 --> 00:36:01.000
new house going up. So the like they had of

524
00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:03.840
been able to go back over there, and it's not

525
00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:05.719
going to happen. I won't be able to go over

526
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:08.440
there again because new neighbors.

527
00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:12.760
Do you think they know what they are building on

528
00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:13.159
top of?

529
00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:21.039
I do not know. See who told me about how

530
00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:24.679
it was an old trading ground was I heard it

531
00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:27.039
from a neighbor who heard it from a neighbor. So

532
00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:31.199
the neighbors across from me, they were talking with the

533
00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:34.480
neighbor who lives down the street, and he was ninety five,

534
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:37.599
so he was actually there trading with the Indians back

535
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:40.719
in the day as a kid with his dad and

536
00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:43.760
his brother, and so he was the one that told

537
00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:47.079
us that it was a trading ground, and his own

538
00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:52.880
grand grandkids didn't believe him. But I have found some

539
00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:55.840
stuff just in our yard, you know. We'll find pieces

540
00:36:55.920 --> 00:37:00.239
of obsidian that have been chipped in flint, like piece

541
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:07.440
of the Flint ship obsidian, and some other stuff that

542
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:11.480
we found that proves that, yes, this was a trading area,

543
00:37:11.719 --> 00:37:14.920
or at least there was Indian activity right here.

544
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:17.840
I'm not surprised at all that you're seeing something like

545
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:20.519
that out in that field that's eight foot tall with

546
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:23.199
glowing eyes. My goodness, dude. Wow.

547
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:31.400
Hm hmm, yeah, it's wild. And you know how I

548
00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:35.960
was telling you about like Tillamuck earlier. I forgot to

549
00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:39.920
mention when I was doing my research into Tillamuck in

550
00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:43.800
that kind of area, there's a story. Are you familiar

551
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:50.159
with Fort Stevens, like the old I think it's called

552
00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:54.440
a Bastian for it. It's a Civil War kind of

553
00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:59.480
star Fork kind of an idea. And so Fort Stevens

554
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:03.920
is down on the coast, it's in Astoria, right where

555
00:38:03.960 --> 00:38:07.039
the Guns was filmed all that kind of stuff. And

556
00:38:08.599 --> 00:38:11.880
there's this legend just up up the way, there's a

557
00:38:11.960 --> 00:38:16.679
spot called Point Adams, and the Native American legend goes

558
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:20.400
something like there was this Indian who had his dog

559
00:38:20.559 --> 00:38:24.199
with him and they would camp up at Point Adams,

560
00:38:24.599 --> 00:38:28.760
and one day this mysterious creature came out of the woods,

561
00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:33.760
described as nine feet tall. Harry called the skukum, so

562
00:38:34.360 --> 00:38:37.960
equivalent to what we think of as sasquage according to

563
00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:43.440
the natives, and this skukum was trying to get him

564
00:38:43.519 --> 00:38:46.679
to feed him, like, oh, can you share your food?

565
00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:52.280
You're hunting that, you know, like the game that you hunted,

566
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:55.679
Can you share your I can't remember what it was.

567
00:38:55.719 --> 00:38:58.039
It might have been a deer or a rabbit or something.

568
00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:01.440
Just can you share your game with me? And so

569
00:39:01.639 --> 00:39:05.679
the Indian said, sure, you know, like you're kind of

570
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:09.079
an unwelcome guest, but sure I'll share with you. Well,

571
00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:14.280
he knew that this scucum wasn't going to be satisfied

572
00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:18.320
with a rabbit or some deer. He knew that the

573
00:39:18.400 --> 00:39:23.400
scucum was going to try and eat him, at least

574
00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:25.880
that's how the natives tell it. They say that they

575
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:32.800
wanted human meat. And so he told his dog this.

576
00:39:33.039 --> 00:39:36.880
This Indian told his dog, he said, Okay, when the

577
00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:39.920
skukum comes to try and eat me, you point him

578
00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:44.000
in the opposite direction of where I went. This Indian

579
00:39:44.159 --> 00:39:48.360
had been digging a tunnel from Fort Stevens area like

580
00:39:48.480 --> 00:39:51.800
Point Adams, all the way to Telemunk, which, if you're

581
00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:54.440
not familiar with that area, that's a pretty long distance.

582
00:39:56.239 --> 00:39:58.719
That's like a couple hundred miles or something like that.

583
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:05.039
So this bigfoot creature goes up to the dog and says,

584
00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:10.440
where'd your owner go? And the dog pointed this bigfoot

585
00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:16.280
in the opposite direction, going upriver, rather than following where

586
00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:20.559
this Indian had just gone down. The other way, and

587
00:40:20.679 --> 00:40:25.360
there's supposedly, according to the legend, a tunnel system right

588
00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:28.440
there that this Indian had dug out and made and

589
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:31.159
his dog sat on top of the tunnel system so

590
00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:38.039
the Skukum or Bigfoot couldn't find him. It's just wild,

591
00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:41.800
like researching the area and seeing all the different stuff

592
00:40:41.960 --> 00:40:44.599
that is right out our back door that people call

593
00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:49.519
you crazy for because they may not have experienced, or

594
00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:52.840
they have experienced, they just didn't believe that it actually happened.

595
00:40:55.840 --> 00:41:01.079
It's incredible what you're doing. From what I know, not

596
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:09.079
many people in the younger generations are are researching the

597
00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:11.360
old legends like you are, and I say hats off

598
00:41:11.800 --> 00:41:16.079
to making sure that those do not die with the

599
00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:19.360
older generations. For example, how you're talking, how you were

600
00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:22.400
talking to that ninety five year old neighbor to get

601
00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:27.159
that information. It's very important that things are documented. I'm

602
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:32.199
sure a lot of listeners are wanting me to address

603
00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:36.000
this is forty two minutes in that we are not

604
00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:40.320
saying where this general location in Oregon is correct.

605
00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:44.800
We can if you want.

606
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:47.039
I mean, it's totally up to you. I'm fine with

607
00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:48.840
it either way, but it's totally up to you.

608
00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:54.239
All right, this is in Malala, Oregon Territory.

609
00:41:54.519 --> 00:41:59.840
Absolutely one hundred. When you told me that before the

610
00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:05.440
the show started recording, I was like, yeah, one hundred

611
00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:11.400
that area. And then after hearing you tell me everything

612
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:16.280
that area is wild. I'm not surprised that you're hearing

613
00:42:16.519 --> 00:42:21.039
so many, you know, stories from from your neighbors about

614
00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:22.880
other things that have happened, you know, and I I

615
00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:27.920
focus more on Bigfoot, but you know, to hear your

616
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:33.280
other stories of high strangeness in these areas are are

617
00:42:33.400 --> 00:42:38.159
just I mean mind blowing. I mean it's it's definitely

618
00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:43.159
more than just Bigfoot in these areas. But the things

619
00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:50.039
you've experienced, the the fourteen inch track and actually seeing

620
00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:56.519
an eight foot tall creature near your house in the

621
00:42:56.599 --> 00:43:00.360
field is just is just wild. Have you have you

622
00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:04.519
been writing down the stories that you've been hearing from

623
00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:07.840
from neighbors. Have you been hearing other Bigfoot related things?

624
00:43:10.199 --> 00:43:17.960
I have heard from another neighbor. They told me a

625
00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:26.639
story about they had an older house and this was

626
00:43:26.719 --> 00:43:30.920
before they like remodeled and everything, and she had said

627
00:43:31.039 --> 00:43:34.800
that one night she was hearing weird noises coming from

628
00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:38.760
the back of their field and they're just across from me,

629
00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:44.199
keep in mind. And so they were telling me some

630
00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:50.199
stories about how they had encountered, looking through their window

631
00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:54.079
something that was about eight feet tall and had glowing

632
00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:57.840
eyes as well. But this was like back a long

633
00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:03.320
time ago, she said, like this would have been probably

634
00:44:03.880 --> 00:44:11.159
twenty twelve, twenty eleven, somewhere in there. She said that

635
00:44:11.320 --> 00:44:13.880
she was hearing a weird noise coming from the kitchen,

636
00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:18.400
so then she went to the kitchen to go see

637
00:44:18.480 --> 00:44:20.840
if there was anything out there, and she didn't see anything.

638
00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:23.719
So then she went back to her room and her

639
00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:31.480
husband was sleeping, and that she noticed something kind of

640
00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:34.880
glowing on the outside of their house, and she thought

641
00:44:34.920 --> 00:44:37.639
that was weird, and her husband was completely stylent asleep,

642
00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:40.639
so she went and opened one of the blinds, and

643
00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:45.440
opening the blind she seeing this eight foot total figure

644
00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:49.880
looking through their windows staring at her. And she was

645
00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:52.440
freaked out and tried to wake up her husband. Well,

646
00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:55.239
by the time she got him awake, it was already gone.

647
00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:57.800
But she did say that she had encountered that.

648
00:45:01.320 --> 00:45:05.440
That's absolutely incredible. My my goodness. And you know, I

649
00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:09.480
had talked to you a little bit before. I haven't

650
00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:13.280
talked a lot about my organ trip yet from this

651
00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:17.880
last July twenty twenty five, I did end up driving

652
00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:24.840
from Sisters through Detroit all the way up through Silverton, Malala,

653
00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:29.599
Estacada to Sandy, went to the North American Bigfoot Center.

654
00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:36.440
The maps do not do it justice when you are

655
00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:41.199
driving into that area. My goodness, I was. I was

656
00:45:42.519 --> 00:45:46.920
completely unprepared for you know, you start to go up

657
00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:49.880
in elevation and if you're not used to it, you

658
00:45:50.079 --> 00:45:53.400
got to be prepared. And it gets wild, wild, wild

659
00:45:53.639 --> 00:46:01.199
up there. Words fail me. You know, all these stories

660
00:46:01.239 --> 00:46:08.440
that you hear about Malala and Colton and Estacada, Scott's Mills,

661
00:46:09.840 --> 00:46:13.960
It's just it's wild territory. It's absolutely wild territory. So

662
00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:17.880
I mean you're in the middle of it, dude. I mean,

663
00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:22.599
hats off to you for trying to keep the stories

664
00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:23.840
alive by talking to people.

665
00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:32.199
Thank you. Yeah, Malala is definitely a crazy place. And

666
00:46:33.039 --> 00:46:38.960
like I said earlier, like you know, everyone, well mostly

667
00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:42.840
everyone here either knows someone who's encountered something or have

668
00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:52.000
encountered something themselves. It's definitely a very wild place. I

669
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:56.119
feel like a lot of people might be kind of

670
00:46:56.440 --> 00:46:58.840
on the scared side to tell their stories because they

671
00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:01.519
feel like they might become laughing stock or no one

672
00:47:01.559 --> 00:47:07.920
would believe them. But you know, I feel like if

673
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:10.639
you've got a story to tell, it needs to be heard.

674
00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:19.960
And you you mentioned the h like Bigfoot Society and Boring.

675
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:24.360
The North American Big Center. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that one.

676
00:47:27.119 --> 00:47:30.119
I've been there and it's pretty wild there too, seeing

677
00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:34.440
all the the like prints that they have with the

678
00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:38.840
you know, like they poured the mix and everything and

679
00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:41.119
then they put those up on the wall so you

680
00:47:41.159 --> 00:47:43.320
can see the prince that some people have found from

681
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:49.679
around here, and like just all sorts of stories there too.

682
00:47:50.880 --> 00:47:53.559
One hundred percent. I mean, I would definitely recommend people

683
00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:58.280
check that out if they haven't already. But wow, what

684
00:47:59.360 --> 00:48:07.199
what a the cool collection of stories that you've collected already, Cam,

685
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:11.320
And I hope that you are definitely writing them down somewhere.

686
00:48:11.559 --> 00:48:13.239
You know, as you get older, you might not be

687
00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:16.079
able to. Maybe you got a really good memory though,

688
00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:18.639
but it's always a good idea to write stuff down

689
00:48:18.760 --> 00:48:22.440
just in case. But I just say thank you for

690
00:48:23.159 --> 00:48:25.199
coming on the show. I want to make sure that

691
00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:28.920
you were able to share everything that you had come

692
00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:30.760
to the show to share today.

693
00:48:33.119 --> 00:48:41.880
Yeah, there's definitely a lot more crazy stuff. Like Chief Joseph,

694
00:48:41.960 --> 00:48:45.840
for instance, he had found he hadn't found, but he

695
00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:51.679
was passed down through his family a stone. It wasn't

696
00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:54.440
a very big stone. And when he had been taken

697
00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:59.119
into captivity, he had his medicine bag around his neck,

698
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:03.960
and the soldiers, you know, they were talking with him,

699
00:49:04.239 --> 00:49:08.639
and he said, before I go into captivity, I've got

700
00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:11.920
this stone that was passed down through my ancestors. It

701
00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:15.280
started with my white ancestors and was passed down to me.

702
00:49:17.039 --> 00:49:20.280
It's from long ago, way before me. And so he

703
00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:23.280
reaches into his medicine bag and pulls out this stone

704
00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:31.199
and it was a Assyrian cuniiform stone and it was

705
00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:37.440
a receipt for like buying sheep and lamb from they

706
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:42.480
suspect Babylon. And he said that this passed down through

707
00:49:42.519 --> 00:49:47.079
his family, and so then it got of course taken

708
00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:51.000
and sent to I can't remember exactly where it is,

709
00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:56.599
but it's a military school something point. Maybe I'm not

710
00:49:56.719 --> 00:50:00.440
exactly sure where, but it's over in like New York,

711
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:05.760
New Jersey or something like that. But he had an

712
00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:11.400
Assyrian stone that he was keeping in his medicine bag.

713
00:50:11.559 --> 00:50:14.599
In this medicine bag. The interesting thing about that is

714
00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:20.840
they date this stone to about twenty forty BC, So

715
00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:26.039
then that was in like eighteen ninety eight. I believe

716
00:50:26.119 --> 00:50:29.039
I might be wrong, But in nineteen sixty three, this

717
00:50:29.239 --> 00:50:31.840
lady in Georgia, she was out digging in her yard

718
00:50:31.960 --> 00:50:36.880
and found a cuneiform tablet from Assyria from the same

719
00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:40.519
time twenty forty BC. And this tablet was also a

720
00:50:40.599 --> 00:50:47.320
receipt for a lamb or sheep. And so then at

721
00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:51.800
the same time in Britain they found a uniform tablet

722
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:55.639
just like the other two, except this one was an

723
00:50:55.679 --> 00:50:59.559
account of someone who lived sixty miles away from Babylon

724
00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:03.599
and said that he's seen the destruction of Babylon from

725
00:51:03.760 --> 00:51:10.480
a foretailed comment, and so describing a foretailed comment, it's

726
00:51:10.599 --> 00:51:16.599
interesting to note that Chief Joseph's medicine bag, there's pictures

727
00:51:16.599 --> 00:51:18.559
of him were in his medicine bag, and he's got

728
00:51:18.679 --> 00:51:21.719
what looks like a fore tailed comment on this medicine

729
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:26.760
bag that he kept this Assyrian tablet in. So yeah,

730
00:51:26.840 --> 00:51:30.719
that's that's another wow story.

731
00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:37.079
So you you working through finding all these legends and stories,

732
00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:41.000
do you have a goal that you're trying to accomplish

733
00:51:41.119 --> 00:51:43.760
with all this or is it more maybe just to

734
00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:45.920
make sure you keep everything alive.

735
00:51:50.079 --> 00:51:53.760
Well in doing this, I hope to keep all these

736
00:51:53.880 --> 00:51:59.719
legends alive. But also I'm a little bit of a

737
00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:02.800
his nerd. You can ask you who my friends or

738
00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:07.639
family are definitely a history nerd. And it's just interesting

739
00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:11.840
to see how close we are to the people of

740
00:52:11.920 --> 00:52:15.079
our past, but at the same time how far apart

741
00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:21.679
we are from them, and also to see what part

742
00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:24.960
of history has been left out and what's been taken

743
00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:32.559
away the people don't know about, and the people that

744
00:52:32.719 --> 00:52:37.280
do know about this part of history aren't really supposed

745
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:40.639
to talk about it because a lot of the stuff

746
00:52:40.719 --> 00:52:44.880
that we have here, that was found here has been

747
00:52:44.960 --> 00:52:49.679
taken and moved to the Smithsonian or Washington, d c.

748
00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:54.000
And New York. So the stuff that belongs here, i'd say,

749
00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:59.599
has been put in a basement or a vault somewhere.

750
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:04.920
And they just recently had found that stone and that

751
00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:08.239
story about Chief Joseph. It would have been in the

752
00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:12.320
early two thousands. They were going through all the stuff

753
00:53:12.360 --> 00:53:15.960
in the basement at that academy, that military academy, and

754
00:53:16.079 --> 00:53:19.840
they had found that in the basement and then retold

755
00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:25.400
the story. So I guess it's to preserve the history

756
00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:31.519
and to make sure that the legends that once lived

757
00:53:31.559 --> 00:53:32.159
are still.

758
00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:38.480
Living one hundred percent. Cam, are you an individual where

759
00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:44.440
you would want to be contacted by people or you're

760
00:53:44.679 --> 00:53:48.360
fine with doing your research and kind of being in

761
00:53:48.440 --> 00:53:49.039
the shadows.

762
00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:58.599
I'd prefer to be kind of like an independent just

763
00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:02.360
you know, doing my research and stuff. But if anyone

764
00:54:02.480 --> 00:54:06.159
has questions, I'd be happy to answer those questions.

765
00:54:06.880 --> 00:54:09.639
Gotcha, Well we'll keep that in mind. Well, thank you

766
00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:12.280
so much for coming on the show today, Cam, and

767
00:54:12.360 --> 00:54:18.159
for sharing all the events of high strangeness that you've

768
00:54:18.280 --> 00:54:22.440
shared or that you've experienced, but also some of the

769
00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:26.960
older legends that you've uncovered as well. And I appreciate

770
00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:28.559
you coming on and chatting today.

771
00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:31.599
Yeah, of course, thank you for having me.

772
00:54:32.159 --> 00:54:33.800
Just want to say thank you for listening to this

773
00:54:33.920 --> 00:54:37.039
episode of the big Foot Society podcast. Cam's story is

774
00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:40.480
the kind that sticks with you, not just because of

775
00:54:40.599 --> 00:54:43.800
the strange prints that we're seeing or the chilling noises

776
00:54:43.960 --> 00:54:47.119
in the theater tree, but for the way the woods

777
00:54:47.159 --> 00:54:49.960
themselves seem to close in that night. And huge thanks

778
00:54:50.039 --> 00:54:53.360
to Cam for sharing his memories from Malala and for

779
00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:56.800
reminding us that Organ's forest hold more than just trees.

780
00:54:57.639 --> 00:54:59.840
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784
00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:11.159
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788
00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:22.119
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789
00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:28.639
Foot encounter, especially in Oregon around Malala, CLACKHAMUS County, Tillamook,

790
00:55:29.960 --> 00:55:32.239
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791
00:55:32.280 --> 00:55:35.679
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792
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801
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802
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803
00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:14.880
next time, keep your eyes open, trust your gut, and

804
00:56:14.960 --> 00:56:17.239
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805
00:56:17.320 --> 00:56:18.079
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