Dec. 24, 2024

Encounter at Deadman's Lake! | Washington

In this episode of Bigfoot Society, host Jeremiah Byron interviews Freddy from Washington State, who shares his chilling Bigfoot encounter from 2004 while hunting with his son near Dead Man's Lake in the Mount St. Helens area. Freddy recounts their...

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Season 1

In this episode of Bigfoot Society, host Jeremiah Byron interviews Freddy from Washington State, who shares his chilling Bigfoot encounter from 2004 while hunting with his son near Dead Man's Lake in the Mount St. Helens area. Freddy recounts their harrowing 7.5-mile hike to the remote lake where they experienced eerie screams and saw unsettling sights that led to the abrupt departure of a fellow camper. Freddy's tale offers a detailed account of the dense forested area, the steep terrain of Goat Mountain, and the strange patterns he found in animal skeletons, all culminating in what he and others believe was a close encounter with Bigfoot. Tune in to hear Freddy’s gripping story and learn more about this mysterious region.

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I've got the privilege of talking to an individual. His

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name is Freddie. He's out there from the great state

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of Washington, and he had listened to one of my

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Packwood Washington episodes not too long ago, and then he

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heard how I was asking if anyone else had any

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encounters around that area, and so emailed me right after

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he listened to that episode. So, Freddie, it's a pleasure

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to have you on the show today.

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Thank you. I appreciate it.

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Is there anything else that the listeners would need to

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know about your background before I have you go into

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your story of what you experienced out there in the woods.

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Yeah. Sure.

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I'm originally from down Southeast and I was born and

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raised down there in military and came up here and

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in i'd say probably late nineties was when I first

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moved up here, And to be honest with you, I

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really didn't know anything or that much about.

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Bigfoot stuff at all.

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It's a lot more prevalent up here and a lot

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more interested in that when all this came about with

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what happened with us, that was the I just didn't

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really know what I was actually seeing or experiencing or

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hearing anyway. Yeah, I've honestly, I've tried to keep this

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story to myself because the area was a hunting area

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and how it is with guys that don't want to

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give up their hunting areas and that kind of stuff.

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But this happened around two thousand and four. One of

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the reasons I'm okay with going ahead and talk about

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it is it's been twenty years and so this happened

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a while ago. But also another site that corroborates my

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story on this was actually had already been posted in

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the location and everything, so I'm going to go ahead

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and divulge some stuff that normally I wouldn't have done,

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but it's already out there, so I'm just it's okay

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to talk about it. I just wanted to share my

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experience about what happened with my son and I on

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this little adventure.

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And yeah, and Freddie, something I would request of you,

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just because I'm looking at a map, is if you

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could include what it took to actually get into this location,

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because it looks like it may have taken a little

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bit of work to get in there, but I don't know.

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Yeah, no, you're exactly right. It's so this is an

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area that the area is called Go Mountain, and that

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area is mainly traveled by horse. It's a horse camp

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up above. And when you're coming into this area, you're

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entering it in through the Mount Saint Helens Area park area,

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but then you're going you're eventually making your way back

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over into the forested National forest Land, which is areas

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that you can hunt and that kind of stuff.

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So it's on the border.

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The first mountain you got to traverse up is really

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steep I'd say that's probably a good three and a

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half four miles straight up and then another three miles

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down to some lakes that you can get to as well.

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A lot of people go up there for hiking. People

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fish up there a little bit, so there is a

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little bit of trout fishing up there. And yeah, I

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would say in total, coming from the base of this

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mountainous area is to the actual end resort, which was

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where I was. We were camped out of a lake

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called dead Men's Lake. That's probably from the beginning of

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the trail head to that lake is probably around seven

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to seven and a half miles. I think it's about

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seven and a half miles. I think all I know

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is hiking it and going that steep in elevation. It

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definitely feels like a long way. It's a pretty good hike.

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So the first probably four miles is pretty hard just

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because it just going up switchbacks. And usually when I

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would go up there, because I used to go up

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there every year just about to hunt. We're carrying fifty

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sixty seventy pound packs just depending on how much stuff

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we needed to get up in that area. Because usually

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when I would hunt up there, we'd be up there

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for about five days five days to a week. It

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just depending on my work schedule and all that. But

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this particular year, my son and I he had just

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he was thirteen, getting ready to turn fourteen, and this

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was his first big, real big h with me. I'd

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been hunting up there. Oh yeah, let me explain that

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to you. I've been hunting that area since about two thousand.

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A friend of mine that he flew aircraft and stuff,

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he knew this area pretty well and basically introduced me

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to this area. And so I'd hunted that area for

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a few years prior to me taking my son up there.

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And I went up there during archery season. So this

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was around I'm guessing around September time frame two thousand

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and four. And like I said, my son was probably

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close to fourteen. I was around thirty two years of

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age at that time, and so a little more fit,

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a little more ragile to get up in these areas.

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And so anyway, we packed up down below at the

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trailhead where the horse camp one of the main start

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where people trader out their horses to go up the trailhead.

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We made like a base camp down there with a

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really little, tiny RV I just kept down there. We

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has a base camp, and then the plans was to

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set the satellite camp up above at dead Men's and

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just camp there, not really hunt there, but just camp

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there and then go out from there. Anyway, so we

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went up, we hiked up. It was like I said,

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like you said earlier, it is not an easy place

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to get to. We had to try to beat the

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horse of guys on horseback up there that morning. So

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we left out in the dark that morning to get

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up there and start doing some hunting and doing We

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needed to get to dead Man's to set up camp,

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and so we were getting up there and we hunted,

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set up camp, was there overnight, hunted that night that day,

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and then camped out that night at dead Men's Lake,

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and then got up went back up to Goat or

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Goat Goat Mountain, which is an area that you could

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really visually see your area okay a little better. So

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we were up there looking and the sky we saw

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this guy walking down the horse trail. It's probably well

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it was at the top of Goat Mountain, so it

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was probably about three miles in from the trail head.

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So we were right at the very peak right at

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the top peak, and we see this guy walking towards

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us and he's got a little rod and little fishing

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rod and just looking like he's just going to be

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a light camper. So we walk up to him and

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we're like hey, and he was like saw that we

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were archery hunting, and we were just chatting back and forth,

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and I said, hey, we're camping out down a dead

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nuns if you guys, just letting you know, and he goes.

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I said, there's nobody else down there. It's just my

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son and I And he was like, oh, okay, So

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i'll see maybe tonight or something and we'll see if

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we can meet up for dinner or whatever. Anyway, we

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just chatted for a little bit and he said he

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was going to stay there for a couple of days,

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like a few days. I'm not sure how many days,

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but he would just say he's going to be there.

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So we hunted all that day and that night we

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came in to camp and I looked out and probably

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about two hundred yards away was his camp. So there

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was only him and then my son and I. So

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my son and I were in our campsite and then

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he had his campsite probably close to two hundred yards

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away around this lake, and to figure out logistically, we

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were closer to the main trail and he was like

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further away from the trail and he would have actually

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had to walk past us if he was going to

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come back out or anything if we were there. So anyway,

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another day goes by, we're hunting and doing our thing,

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and come back in really late. One night, it was

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pretty late and we had it all day and come

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back to the tent and was fell asleep.

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I don't know.

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I'm guessing we probably fell asleep around eight or nine

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and woke up at about nine, and it's probably about one.

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We woke up about one in the morning, and because

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I think I looked at my watch and it was

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right at just about wanting and morning, and there was

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the most god awful scream I'd ever heard, and it

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was only probably about thirty thirty yards from us. It

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was really close. And when I thought at first, I

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was thinking, Okay, maybe this is just a cougar, Maybe

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this is just a bear or something like that. But

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the way that this thing made this sound, it didn't

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sound like a cat, because a mount cat sounds more

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like a woman screaming or whatever. This one sounded very guttural,

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and it was just it was a really long, long scream.

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It felt like it lasted like five seconds every time

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it would do it. And it did that a few times.

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And because we were up there archery hunting, and I

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was concerned. Just to be honest, I had packed a

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small pistol on me just in case for safety of

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my son and I in case we ran across anything.

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Wasn't expecting that and had pulled my pistol and was

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just waiting. And I could hear this thing walking up

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to our tent and it was walking around us, and

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it didn't sound like a four legged animal at all.

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And I even telling this story to give me chill

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bumps right now. It was but it was screaming and yelling,

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and it was terrifying. You always thinking you know what

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you're going to do at that moment. But I honestly

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was freaked out, and I was trying to figure out

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a way. My son and I were both looking at

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each other because now we're both awake, and he's scared

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out of his mind.

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I'm like, going, what is this?

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And so I'm trying to figure out an exit way

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to get out of a tent and shine some light

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on whatever it is. But when it started walking around us,

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I was like, okay, I'm not walking out there, and

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so it came around and then walked back, and then

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it more or less disappeared after that. But the screaming

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and thing that this thing did was probably a good

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fifteen seconds of it, maybe twenty seconds of yelling and screaming,

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and had a really high pitch and then it went

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to a really low pitch and that's what was just

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that was really what was so like. I could not

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figure out what kind of animal this would actually sound like. Anyway,

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we stayed in there and we couldn't sleep the rest

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of the night. We were pretty much wide awake the

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rest of the night, just waiting and listening for anything

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to transpire. It did walk away, and so anyway, got

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up that morning and walked outside the tent and I

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looked over and the guy's tent that was two hundred

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yards away from us was gone. His pack and everything

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was gone. And so anyway, I was kind of like, Okay,

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well that's weird. And I saw him the night before,

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I saw his camp down there, and now he's gone,

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I'm like winning the world?

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Did he leave?

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And so anyway, we went ahead. We stayed down there.

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We actually stayed for another day, and we were pretty

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nervous about staying, but we just did not know what

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it was and we were just trying to figure it out.

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Well.

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Anyway, the next day we went out, we hunted all

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day again, came back to camp and I'd asked my

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son to go to the lake to get some water,

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because we'd get water from the lake and boil it

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over the campfire and that would be some of our

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drinking water, first drinking water. So he went down and

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he comes running back and he goes, Dad, there's something

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by the lake and it was looking at me. And

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I go, maybe maybe it was just a barrack or something.

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He goes, no doubt. He goes, this thing was looking

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at me. It had a face. But he goes the

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closest thing I can make it out to be is

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it looked alien. But at the same time, I go,

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what did you see its body or what he was like?

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You know, I just saw his face and he was

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looking at me. He was like behind a log or

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a stomp, and I was like, yeah, okay, I think

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we're about done. So we ended up packing our stuff

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up and going ahead and heading back down. So anyway,

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we come back home. We told some some of our

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friends and family the story and they were just like, man,

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you know, that sounds like a bigfoot thing. And I

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was I didn't know really what they were talking about.

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I'd heard about bigfoot, but not really too much. It's

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like I said, it's more the West. So I go

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and I ended up running into my friend again, actually

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to f forward a little bit. Three years go by, okay,

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and I'm talking to the guy that he introduced me

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to place, the guy that flew, and he told me,

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he goes, you need to be careful going up there

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at certain times because you just don't know what you're

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going to get into. We're just talking about safety and stuff,

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and I go, yeah, I said, I know. I said,

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I've already had that one incident happening. He was like,

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what are you talking about? And I go, I thought

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I told you that. He goes no, And so I

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told him the story about what I just told right now,

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and he goes, dude, I totally believe in the bigfoot stuff.

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And I was like really, and he goes, yeah, and

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I said, I go, I don't know. I don't know

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what it was, but it was very terrifying and it

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walked around us. It sounded upright, didn't sound like a

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like a four legged creature or anything.

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And I go, I don't know.

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So he ends up jumping on the I gut bfro,

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I think, and he found the other guy's story in

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our area. He was going on his computer and he

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looked up the area that we hunt. He goes, hey, look, man,

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there's another story up at dead Man's Lake. And I go,

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what there is? I said, He goes, yeah, that's right.

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He goes, dude, that's right where we camp. And I go,

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what is he saying?

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What was the year?

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And he goes, it happened in two thousand and four,

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and I go, dude, that's when I was there. And

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so he clicks on it and he was reading the

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story and his side of the story. I haven't read

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this story in a long time, but his side of

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the story was that he was going up there to

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go fish and fish at dead Man's Lake and he

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ran into a father and son archery hunting. We discussed

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talking about meeting one another, and it was the date

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and everything like that was it. That was the story,

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and so that was the story from the guy that

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actually was there also.

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And so.

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Anyway that guy ended up according to what I if

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I remember correctly, because I haven't read this a long time,

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was that as soon as he heard that screaming and yelling,

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he started packing his stuff and got out of there

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right then. He must have left there in the dark.

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And I'm telling you, this Six of the Woods is

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pretty scary at night. If you're going to be up

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there alone, and to pack out alone, he would have

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had to have been really terrified to have done that.

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That's not something that you would just want to up

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and do. It's a hard hike out of there. And

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for him to get up at one or two in

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the morning and to pack his stuff and leave before

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daylight something spooked him as well, pretty bad. But the

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difference was he was still probably a couple hundred yards

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from it, and I was literally within feet of this thing.

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And I guess according to that thing, if I remember correctly,

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he said he knew that we were down there, I guess,

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but you know, he was getting out of there. So anyway, yeah,

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that's more or less what happened. I don't know if

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that's what my son actually saw at the lake, but

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whatever it was hanging around us.

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I did look up the report as we were talking

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about earlier today. The way that he talks in it,

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he in this report the same thing you did, which is, oh,

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the scream was predominantly a high pitch scream, but he

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also knows a low toned vibe that seemed to be

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part of the stream as well.

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It did. It was weird. It was so weird.

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It was extremely high, which at first made me think

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it was a cougar in the beginning, but then when

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it went into this real low guttural, I was like, no, that's.

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Not a cougar. That ain't no cougar.

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But yeah, that's to me, that's what I was expecting.

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But you're right, it was really high and then it

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went really low.

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So the other thing that he points out is that

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it reminded him of a sound that he's heard Gibbons make,

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which is interesting.

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Oh okay, all right, so that's good. Yeah.

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See, I'm kind of I'm kind of bignorant to a

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lot of this stuff. Honestly, I hate to say that,

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but what you're hearing is straight up honest from me

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on how this as far as what I know, that's

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really I don't know the differences in the Bigfoot and

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all that kind of stuff, but that's it. That is interesting.

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Like I said, I haven't read that story since two

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thousand and seven.

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It might to check it out.

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Yeah, okay.

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The other another interesting thing he says, this other witness,

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is that he tried to get back into the area

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later on, but it had been closed down by the

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Forest Service due to activity around Mount Saint Helens.

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Oh okay, so that's weird.

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That's that is weird because I didn't see that while

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we were there. I didn't see anything shut down. But see,

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we literally stayed there for an additional day, you know

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what I mean. We were there for four days more

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or less, and so by the time we were seeing

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these other things and something else seemed really weird, we

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just decided we needed to get out of there because

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we were the only ones up there and if we

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needed help, we would have been totally screwed.

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Absolutely, And you're so far out there, it's not going

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to be a good time. Did you hear any other

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animals or birds at the same time that you were

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hearing these screams or was it just.

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Pretty much nothing? Sorry? Hold on, I apologize.

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The bluetooth keeps Let me see if I can The

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bluetooth keeps having issues on this. It's very strange. Let

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me see if I can reconnect. Hello, check check, Hello,

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Hey Freddy. Sorry about that.

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I have no idea.

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There we go, but it's gonna be fun. I just

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have a few more questions for you.

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Sure, yeah, no, go ahead.

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So the last question I'd asked was do you remember

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hearing any sounds around the same time when you were

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hearing the screaming.

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No?

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Absolutely not No. This area that we hunted in, it's

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a very dense fur tree area. These things are massive,

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and it's not like a home to a lot of

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small animals. Like you don't see squirrels, You don't see

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any of that stuff in there, And don't ask me why,

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but there's just very low amount of wildlife in that

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near that lake. The only thing I've ever heard down

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there before, and that was probably maybe a year or

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two before that, was I have heard an owl in there.

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I was walking down the trail one night and I

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was coming back at dark, and I heard an owl

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that was literally ten feet from me that hooted at me,

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But there was a substantial difference between a scream and

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yell as opposed to a bird sound. Yeah, this was

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no bird sound at all. I know that for a fact.

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Absolutely.

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You had mentioned the sighting that your son had, and

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I know you guys aren't researchers, but did you happen

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to go down to that area to see if there

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are tracts or after it happened, you're like, you know what,

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let's get out.

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Yeah, so I did. When he come running out of

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the woods, I went more or less running towards him

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to see if everything was okay, and he was like that,

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there's something over there looking at me. He goes, I'm

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looking at its eyes. It's looking at me. And I

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went down there and I didn't see it, and he goes, Dad,

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it was just there, I'm telling you. And he wouldn't

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have made that up. He's not that kind of kid,

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not even from being scared from the other stuff. He

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just saw something and didn't know what it was. But no,

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when he told me that, I was spooked by then

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and was enough to go I don't want to camp

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out another night here and go through that again. We

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were going to We're going to go ahead and stay

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another following night, but I just was like, nah, I

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think we're just going to go ahead and head back.

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We're now up here alone by ourselves, and if in

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the event we didn't need help or anything, we would

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have been toast. I didn't want to endanger my son

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like that. It was bad enough being up there after

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that incident. But like I said, to be honest with you,

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I just was like, man, maybe there's another kind of

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an animal up here that I'm not aware of. But

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this thing does not sound like a cat, and it

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doesn't sound like a bear. I don't know what it is,

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but maybe there's just something I'm not aware of. And

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that's when, of course, later on people were like, shoot,

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that was probably a big foot, and I was just

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like what.

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So it was kind of like whoa.

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You know some of the things that people are talking

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about and saying, I wouldn't even tell some oh, that

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didn't happen to you, because now that I've had to

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happen to me, I would say, there's validity and everybody's

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experiences of what has happened to them on their own.

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But all I can tell you is what happened to

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me and my son and the third party that was there.

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Yeah, that it was quite a few years ago. Over

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the years, have you looked to see if there's been

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other things that have happened in the same area or

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region that could be related to Bigfoot?

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Not, not really so much. I really I haven't hunted

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up there in several years, probably at least ten ten

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years or so, and not because I didn't want to

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because of that incident or anything. It was just like

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I said, I'm getting older now and it's just getting

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harder to hike into these areas. Like I said, they're

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a hard place to hike in. It's not too bad

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on a horseback or anything, but it's pretty steep terrain.

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I will say that there's been some weird things up

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there that we've gone into some areas hunting that was

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very in the thick, like areas that I couldn't even

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imagine people going into, And doesn't mean that they haven't.

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Hunters can be pretty resilient to get in and around

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certain areas, but we've been in some areas that were

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pretty pretty thick and I've just seen like skeletons of animals,

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whether it be bear, or cougar or whatever, or elk

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actually elk and deer, and they're placed in like weird

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patterns and stuff.

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I thought that was weird.

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I've ran across that a few times, and I'm just like, man,

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I would be really surprised if somebody's been through some

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of these areas. Doesn't mean it's not possible, but I've

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just seen some things that that was just really weird,

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Like why are these things stacked a certain way and

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done this way out literally in the middle of nowhere, And.

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So can you share what you mean by strange patterns

463
00:24:56.440 --> 00:25:00.559
of these skeletons.

464
00:24:57.759 --> 00:25:01.960
Or Yeah, they were like just the way they were

465
00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:05.319
placed out like it was almost like they were purposefully

466
00:25:05.519 --> 00:25:07.839
laid out in a way, not laid out in a

467
00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:11.680
way as if something died and got just decayed and

468
00:25:11.720 --> 00:25:13.599
went to the ground. You can tell what that looks like.

469
00:25:14.440 --> 00:25:18.240
This looked like the bones had been specifically like moved

470
00:25:18.279 --> 00:25:21.599
around in places and formed until not really a design

471
00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:23.640
or anything, but just organized.

472
00:25:23.680 --> 00:25:26.160
It was weird. I've seen that before.

473
00:25:26.039 --> 00:25:29.759
And I just was like, Man, is deep in the

474
00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:31.720
woods and it's thick of the woods that were in

475
00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:38.680
We would sometimes get caught up into areas that me personally,

476
00:25:38.839 --> 00:25:41.200
I didn't even mean to get into. Sometimes you just

477
00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:44.200
start hiking into areas to look for these little side

478
00:25:44.240 --> 00:25:47.000
elk trails and stuff, and next thing of your in,

479
00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:49.839
you're in an area that you're like, I got to

480
00:25:49.839 --> 00:25:51.759
get out of here, because I'm gonna have trouble getting

481
00:25:51.759 --> 00:25:53.559
out of here myself because a lot of those ravines

482
00:25:53.599 --> 00:25:57.079
and stuff are so steep and they're hard to get into.

483
00:25:57.599 --> 00:26:02.079
And when at that time I was in.

484
00:26:01.319 --> 00:26:03.640
Really good shape and I could hike and go up

485
00:26:03.640 --> 00:26:06.319
into these areas no problem. But when you see something

486
00:26:06.440 --> 00:26:11.000
like spread out and laid out, and I don't want

487
00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:13.640
to I don't know how i'd say a pattern. They

488
00:26:13.799 --> 00:26:17.359
just did not look like they died and naturally decayed

489
00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:20.240
right there. They It looked like it had died and

490
00:26:20.279 --> 00:26:23.240
then something came in and shuffled their bones into a

491
00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:26.359
pile kind of and it was just weird, very strange stuff.

492
00:26:27.000 --> 00:26:30.759
But so that, other than that, I haven't had too

493
00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:34.440
many other encounters up there. I've hunted up there for

494
00:26:34.519 --> 00:26:36.880
probably I must have hunted up there for probably ten

495
00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:41.279
years though, from two thousand all the way to twenty ten.

496
00:26:42.359 --> 00:26:45.519
And but I did select after that incident, though I did.

497
00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:46.839
I went up there. I was going to go up

498
00:26:46.839 --> 00:26:50.000
there with more people and also pick and choose my

499
00:26:50.079 --> 00:26:53.480
battles on making sure I had somebody with me or whatever,

500
00:26:53.599 --> 00:26:55.599
because I used to like to go up there by myself.

501
00:26:55.680 --> 00:26:58.599
But it's it was like, after that incident, I was,

502
00:26:58.680 --> 00:27:00.200
I probably am going to come up in this one

503
00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:01.400
of these days if I keep this.

504
00:27:01.480 --> 00:27:04.720
Up, Which is not funny at all, but it's funny

505
00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:06.839
that you had that maybe I should not do this.

506
00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:09.720
I actually had a similar thought out in the south

507
00:27:09.759 --> 00:27:12.839
of Oakrange when I went to a reservoir down there

508
00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:15.880
and I was having supper by the side of this lake,

509
00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:17.480
and I was like, you know what, this is how

510
00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:18.359
people disappear.

511
00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:20.720
Maybe you should not everybody.

512
00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:27.359
Yeah, no, it definitely makes us question our sanity what

513
00:27:27.400 --> 00:27:30.480
we want to try to do. But and all honesty,

514
00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:34.640
if I had even known about this bigfoot step at

515
00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:37.880
that time, it might have really made me think a

516
00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:40.200
little harder about it going up there and hunting as

517
00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:43.000
often as I did by myself. But because I've tracked

518
00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:45.680
cougar and stuff up there, I've been around them, I

519
00:27:45.759 --> 00:27:48.799
know more or less what I'm hearing and seeing up there.

520
00:27:49.359 --> 00:27:52.480
That night was something I've never heard in my life,

521
00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:57.599
and really, to I can't expand on that enough.

522
00:27:58.039 --> 00:27:59.039
It just it was.

523
00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:04.160
It definitely wasn't human, And to me, it missed the

524
00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:07.680
mark on cougar and bear, and those are really about

525
00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:09.519
the only other things that could be up there that

526
00:28:09.599 --> 00:28:11.279
could even remotely become close.

527
00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:14.119
But because you know what cougar sounds like, you know

528
00:28:14.200 --> 00:28:16.920
what a bear sounds like, and this was no bear.

529
00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:20.119
Yeah, yeah, no, this absolutely.

530
00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:23.880
Lastly, the name of that area is weird in itself.

531
00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:26.119
Do you know anything about the history of it Why

532
00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:27.519
it's called dead Man's Lake?

533
00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:32.359
I would only be speculating, but I had heard that

534
00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:35.119
it had something to do with when the volcano erupted.

535
00:28:35.160 --> 00:28:38.039
That one of the stories I heard was it launched

536
00:28:38.039 --> 00:28:40.000
a guy into that lake. Now whether or not that's

537
00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:42.240
true or not, I have no idea. That's just what

538
00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:47.240
I just heard, that it did have a bad ending

539
00:28:47.319 --> 00:28:50.279
from when the mountain erupted or something. But for all

540
00:28:50.319 --> 00:28:52.039
I know, that lake could have been named that before

541
00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:54.319
that time frame. Like I said, I'm not originally from

542
00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:57.559
up here. I've lived here since like ninety nine. But

543
00:28:58.079 --> 00:28:59.920
as far as the far back history of it, I

544
00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:00.680
couldn't tell you.

545
00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:04.640
It's a fascinating account and it is so unique because

546
00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:09.680
it has that report from the other individual's viewpoint to

547
00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:11.559
go along with it, which I'll have linked in the

548
00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:14.759
show notes and listeners. If you know the history of

549
00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:16.960
dead Man's Leg, feel free to put in the comments,

550
00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:19.680
or if or have had an encounter in this same

551
00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:23.039
area of dead Man's Leg, please share that as well.

552
00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:26.480
Or share it and also send me an email because

553
00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:28.920
that's how I keep track of stuff, and I'd love

554
00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:31.799
to talk to you. But Freddie, it has been just

555
00:29:32.119 --> 00:29:35.039
a privilege to have you on the show and for

556
00:29:35.119 --> 00:29:36.880
you to be able to share your story, and I

557
00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:38.480
appreciate you so much coming on.

558
00:29:39.799 --> 00:29:41.160
Thank you, Thank you very much.

559
00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:45.279
If there is anything else that you run into in

560
00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:48.000
the future, or you hear anything else, feel free to

561
00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:51.880
reach back out. I'd love to hear anything you run

562
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:55.200
into up there, because I know the Bigfoot stuff is

563
00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:56.680
everywhere you turn.

564
00:29:56.880 --> 00:29:59.279
We'll do you're a big Fit society.

565
00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:02.519
Our goal is to provide a platform for those that

566
00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:06.440
have encountered Bigfoot to share their encounter and a safe

567
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:10.279
and respected environment. But we need to hear your story.

568
00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:14.319
If you've experienced something that you just can't explain. Please

569
00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:19.640
send me an email at bigfoot Soociety at gmail dot com,

570
00:30:20.200 --> 00:30:22.920
then we can start the conversation. I know a lot

571
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:27.160
of you have not shared your encounter at all. It's

572
00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:30.799
been twenty years and it's time that you get this

573
00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:33.720
off your chest and then you can get some well

574
00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:36.200
deserved for rest because I know you haven't been sleeping.

575
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Here's the list.

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00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:04.640
These are all in Oregon, by the way, Oakridge, Dexter

598
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Fall Creek, to Shoot National Forest Area, Cultis Lake, Spirit Lake,

599
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Stuttle Lake, Mackenzie River Area, Sweet Home Area, the area

600
00:32:14.359 --> 00:32:18.119
west of Crater Lake, east of two thirty West Diamond

601
00:32:18.200 --> 00:32:21.599
Lake Highway and north of sixty two Creater Lake Highway.

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You can use email Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

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